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In this installment of the weekly discussion revolving around the latest news and topics on Microsoft 365, hosts – Vesa Juvonen (Microsoft) | @vesajuvonen and Waldek Mastykarz (Microsoft) | @waldekm, are joined by Belgium-based Senior Software Engineer on the ODSP team at Microsoft - Bert Jansen (Microsoft) | @O365Bert
The discussion explored origins of PnP Community, ChatGPT and AI’s impact on developers, PnP tool usage numbers, likelihood of using AI in PnP products and a Prompt Engineering role.
Microsoft and PnP Community delivered 15 articles and videos in the last week! This session was recorded on Monday, February 9, 2023.
Agenda items
00:00 – Intro
03:13 – Interview
43:53 – Weekly Articles
1:05:07 – Closing
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A
B
B
B
Fair
points:
let's
talk
about
the
latest
on
Microsoft
trees,
they
survive
areas
all
up
and
including
the
Microsoft
cloud,
so
we're
paying
pretty
inclusive
related
on
all
of
the
things
what's
happening
within
the
world.
You
know
Microsoft
Microsoft
world,
yes
to
make
the
Microsoft
world,
including
the
Microsoft
articles,
and
then
the
community
articles
today
is
9th
of
February
and
we're
recording
this
few
days
after
the
previous
session,
because
there's
going
to
be
holiday,
breaks
and
family
things,
and
all
of
that
with
this
important
as
well
so
really
really
good
for
the
upcoming
weeks.
B
So,
anyway,
that
let's
not
mind
that
there
was
a
lot
of
news
this
week,
I
think
the
the
hottest
topic
for
sure
has
been
artificial
intelligence
and
the
chat
GPD
and
the
Google
competitors
and
all
of
that
stuff.
It's
been
an
interesting
week.
So
before
we
go
to
the
interview
with
Berta
I
have
to
say
it
was
interesting
to
actually
no
I've
I
knew
from
last
week
already
that
something's
going
to
happen
on
Monday
Tuesday,
because
there
was
social
media.
B
You
know,
guidance
and
everything
else
going
on
internally
in
Microsoft
and
since
I
do
some
of
the
tweeting
and
all
of
that,
and
there
was
a
guidance
blah
blah
blah
and
you're
like
what
could
it
be?
What
could
it
could
it
be
or
or
is
it
then
the
chat
GPT
being
thinking
and
it
was
to
achieve
the
painting
so
which
the
leaks
also
on
Friday,
which
is
a
bit
of
a
bummer,
but
you
know
so
still.
B
And
and
just
well
the
clearly
people
have
been
loving
that
because
the
reaction
has
been
really
positive,
especially
on
the
Microsoft
one
and
in
the
interview
with
Bert
Johnson.
This
time
Burt
is
joining
us
on
talking
about
the
community
and
all
of
that
stuff,
and
also
we
talk
about
the
AI
impact
for
developers,
which
is
an
interesting
thinking
point:
will
it
change
everything?
Will
it
make
developers
completely
irrelevant
spoiler?
B
B
B
A
B
So
anyway,
so
let's
jump
on
the
interview
and
discussion
with
Bert
Johnson
participating
in
the
show
in
the
past
as
well,
but
he's
always
good
to
chat
with,
and
we
and
let's,
let's
talk
about
the
impact
of
chat
tpd
and
the
AI
for
developers
as
well.
So
welcome
verton.
Turning
on
the
BMP
weekly
episode,
919
English
is
so
hard.
197
197.
B
you've
been
actually
on
the
show
pretty
recently
as
well,
but
we
wanted
to
actually
recap
some
of
the
the
insane
numbers
but
but
I
know
that
you
have
calculated,
for
example,
on
the
open
source
side
of
the
house
and
and
kind
of
talk
about
a
bit
more,
even
more
about
Open
Source.
And
what
does
it
mean
for
you
and
community
and
and
of
course,
talk
about
the
latest
news
of
this
week,
which
is
what
is
it
well:
artificial
intelligence,
artificial
intelligence,
artificial
intelligence
right?
So
what.
C
B
A
C
Absolutely
yeah
yeah
last
time
we
just
not
that
long
ago
in
the
school
I
was
a
senior
service
engineer
working
in
the
vulnerable
SharePoint
customer
engineering
team
by
then
two
things
have
happened.
One
is
more
like
a
internal
title
alignment,
so
I'm
now
a
senior
software
engineer
which
I
think
better
fits
what
I
do
for
the
most
part.
That
is
not
my
only
thing
that
I
do,
but
the
bigger
thing
is
that
I'm
now
in
the
developer,
OSP
developer
platform
team,
how
do
you
call
it.
C
C
To
do
now
like
when
I
joined,
Microsoft
like
I
guess,
like
six
weeks
later,
I
went
to
trading
around
SharePoint
in
Munich,
there
was
stressa
they're,
giving
the
training,
which
was
actually
Pro
training,
but
it
ended
up
as
a
developer
trading.
There's
something
another
story
to
tell
go
figure
I.
Did
it
I?
Did
it
no
back
then,
but
now
I
understand
why
yeah
so
our
SharePoint
path
across
like
a
16
years
ago,
more
or
less
and
now
we're
finally
for
the
first
time
ever
in
the
same
organization.
C
B
Absolutely
absolutely
yeah:
it's
been
an
interesting.
What
we've
been
for
those
who
know
me
and
Bert
we've
been
working
closely
within
open
source
since
2013
right,
so
our
community
and
open
source,
tooling
and
and
reusable
stuff.
So
but
again,
this
is
the
first
time
we
are
actually
in
the
same
team,
which
is
interesting
so,
but
that
that
really
shows
also
the
cross
the
possibilities
of
cross-organization
on
crosstain
work.
You
don't
have
to
be
in
the
same
team
right
exactly.
A
B
There's
kind
of
a
two
two,
let's
say
historical
moments,
there's
the
historical
moment
when
we
started
the
original
first
internal
project
which
wasn't
public,
so
that's
actually
I
would
say:
August
September,
23
2013
and
that's
when
Bert
actually
got
involved,
and
then
we
started
doing
things
with
schumann's
chakra
party,
Steve
walker.
Well,
there
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
other
people
involved
in
this
friend
involved.
C
B
True
true,
so
a
lot
of
people
started
doing
gradually
involved
internally
and
then
and
the
moment
when
we
went
public
was
wasn't
it
a
SharePoint,
2014
conference
I
think
April
2014..
So
that
could
be
like
the
public
moment
whenever
the
open
source
community
and
thing
actually
publicly
started.
So
so.
B
B
Yeah
yeah
but
yeah.
So
it's
it's.
It's
been
an
interesting
ride
and
it's
actually
interesting.
It's
it's.
It's
been
a
really
long
journey
even
to
get
corporate
people
necessarily
to
understand
the
value
of
community.
Of
course,
there's
always
been
the
community
of
you
know
the
ship
on
Saturdays
for
those
who've
been
around
since
2007,
but
doing
open
source
with
Microsoft
corporate
tooling.
It
wasn't
really
like
what
are
you
doing
exactly?
Why
are
you?
Why
are
you
sharing
your
IP
and
your
expertise
openly
externally?
And
that
was
like
no?
B
No,
why
you
shouldn't
be
doing
that,
and
that
was
a
really
interesting
game,
also
I
I
remember
when
I
this
is
actually
a
lot
of
the
original
stuff
started
from
A1
project
which
I
did
for
a
let's
say
that
was
a
one
big
paper,
Manufacturing
Company,
one
of
the
biggest
Maple
manufacturing
companies
in
the
world.
We
did
some
mock-ups
and
Triads,
and
all
of
that
and
when
I
started
sharing
those
even
internally
Microsoft
in
the
autumn,
2013
the
management
chain.
My
management
chain
at
the
time
was
super
worried
about.
B
Why
are
you
sharing
this
open
layout?
We
should
get.
You
know.
We'd
have
to
claim
some
success
out
of
it,
so
why
are
we
sharing
this
out
and
that's
that's
interesting
how
that
mentality
has
evolved,
especially
with
Microsoft,
and
we
didn't
own
GitHub
at
the
time,
but
we
didn't
have
GitHub
connections
at
the
time.
There
was
just
that.
B
B
B
Can
I
talk
about
some
of
the
the
metrics,
so
some
of
the
one
of
the
things
what
we
started
back
in
2013
Autumn,
which
is
pretty
horrifying,
was
the
reusable
code
code
packages
and
all
of
that
and
some
of
that
that's
kind
of
historical,
reusable
nuget
packages
and
they've
evolved
to
be
whatever
it
is
right
now.
What
what's
the
scale
of
usage.
C
Yes,
there's
still
new
good
packages,
but
that's
I
think
where
we
started
being
P
was
indeed,
let's
call
the
utility
library
to
provide
extra
features
on
top
of
season,
because
we
are
working
with
season.
We
discovered
several
kind
of
gaps,
shortcomings,
things
which
were
really
hard
to
do
and
then
yeah,
let's
make
like
any
Consulting
organization.
You
would
make
things
easier
for
your
colleagues.
You
try
to
do
that.
C
There
was
a
library
first
in
the
library
onuget,
eventually,
yes,
but
that
one
still
there,
although
not
in
exactly
the
same
form,
obviously
10
years.
We
do
something
in
10
years
now
we
have
a
queen
because
gay
and
PMP
framework,
which
are
the
two
libraries
which
work
together,
hand
in
hand
of
course
gaze.
The
newer
one
containing
all
new
features
end
up
in
that
one.
It's
way
better
documented,
better
test
Etc,
but
still
plenty
of
features
in
the
PNP
framework.
One.
C
Wow
we
tried
to
eliminate
that,
but
we're
getting
there,
but
the
thing
is
that,
like
the
usage
for
those,
things
is
just
crazy,
crazy,
like
for
the
whole
and
now
I'm
talking
I'm,
just
looking
after
the
right
numbers
here,
so
it
gives
me
a
sec,
but
for
the
whole
PNP
ecosystem,
we
had
like
1.3
million
tenants
that
used
a
PNP
component
and
that's
not
just.net
world
is
also
a
CLI.
That's
also
a
Powershell
there's
also
pnpgs.
B
C
B
B
Didn't
exactly
so,
and
then
it
started
growing
from
there
to
what
it
is.
The
the
massive
sucks
is
what
it
is
right
now.
It's
it's
just
interesting,
there's
always
kind
of
a
the
successful
approaches
in
open
source
or
in
the
community.
Of
course
they
are
not
just
hey
I'll
do
something:
no,
they
actually
aren't
there
to
provide
real
value
for
the
for
others
as
well.
So
and.
B
And
and
one
thing
to
also
notice
in
the
scale
of
this,
if
you
think
about
the
scale
of
10
years,
which
is
not
yet
10
years,
but
still
it's
it's,
you
have
ups
and
you
have
Downs.
You
have
ups
and
downs
and
it's
actually
interesting
to
see
how
the
industry
moves
forward
and
the
offerings
move
forward
and
the
products
move
forward
and
then
how
the
open
source
like
way
demand,
goes
up
and
down.
And
what
are
the
things
which
what
people
are
using?
B
Moving
from
a
more
from
only
100
in
C,
sharp
to
a
more
web
stack
development
World
across
all
of
the
different
cross-platform,
and
all
of
that.
It's
been
interesting
journey
to
see,
monitor
transformation
so
and
and
from
a
Microsoft
perspective,
especially
being
well
you've
been
in
a
company
for
a
long
time,
but
as
well.
The
transformation
of
the
company
which
was
heavily
against
Apple,
heavily
against
any
other
ecosystem
than
the
windows
and
Microsoft
ecosystem,
and
we
were.
C
B
A
A
So
it's
not
like
an
app
you
install
on
your
phone
to
I,
don't
know
view
maps
or
something,
and
if
you
don't
like
it,
you
uninstall
you
install
another
one
like
if
you
buy
it
into
something
like
service
library
and
SDK,
or
a
tool
that
is
there
like
it's
bought
like
you
buy
into
it
yep
and
removing
it
comes
with
a
huge
cost
right
because
like
to
really
to
benefit
from
it.
Well,
you
need
to
learn.
You
make
a
choice.
A
I'm
I'm,
going
to
use
this
so
I'm
not
going
to
do
these
other
three
things
right.
So
so
you,
you
know
and
like
people
are
worried
about
it
like
because,
like
you
like
many
folks,
are
risk
of
averse,
especially
in
projects.
You
know
that
they
do
for
customers,
the
large
ores
they
don't
want
to
have
unnecessary
risk,
that
they
will
use
something
and
that
thing
will
disappear
from
the
face
of
the
Earth
Tomorrow.
Of
course,
right.
A
B
B
But
they're
kind
of
the
cues
between
the
components
are
interesting
as
well,
but
if
they've
got
something
like
maybe
Powershell,
some
of
the
new
commandlets
don't
go
to
official
Powershell
commandlets
anymore.
They
go
to
PMP
Powershell,
because
it's
more
widely
used
so
and
and
where
that
started
well.
B
Urban
van
hoon
and
back
in
2014
was
kind
of
looked
into
the
the
nougat
component,
where
the
reusable
Library
I
suppose,
like
oh
kind
of,
makes
sense
to
be
able
to
do
the
stuff
using
scripting
which,
by
the
way,
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
the
scripting
is
a
great
way
of
doing
low
low
level.
Automation
and
easy
automate.
Well
easy.
The
complex,
Powershell
scripts
are
not
super
easy,
but
anyway,
so
it's
super
easy
to
do.
Powershell,
yes,
but
anyway,
but.
B
C
Yeah
I
had
like
a
surprising
result
like
a
for
some
internal
q,
a
we
need
to
kind
of
list,
all
methods
from
particular
libraries,
so,
okay,
ask
chat.
Cpt
use
tablet,
use
c-sharp,
use
reflection
to
create
a
console
application
that
reads
these
properties
and
then
outputs.
The
CSV
with
these
columns
takes
like
two
minutes
to
describe
to
ask
okay
presenter:
okay.
Well,
something
comes
out,
but
not
all
goat,
Spirit
but
you'll
be
any
AI,
always
compiles
of
works
whatever.
C
C
Saves
me
like
an
hour
because
you,
you
all
know
these
things
work
you,
but
then
you
have
to
start
hunting
the
correct
example
and
copy
paste
and
stuff
on
something,
and
it's
not
that
it's
not
super
hard
yeah.
But
it's
just
annoying
to
kind
of
okay.
I
have
to
figure.
I
did
this
in
the
past,
but
now
I
have
to
figure
out
again
how
I
did
it
so
I
start
searching
and
all
of
that
work.
C
Developers
but
also
students
like
just
because
anecdote
to
I
told
my
daughter
about
I,
showed
my
kids
that
GPT
and
then
there
was
some
discussion
around
it
and
then
they're,
both
daughters
and
20
and
7
is
18,
so
they're
at
school
and
studying
and
and
then
today,
my
daughter,
she
is
a
new
message.
Like
hey
a
friend
of
me,
she
told
me
that
she
used
it
for
an
exam.
C
B
A
A
C
C
C
Correct
and
depending
on
on
situation,
if
you're
just
writing
and
doing
things,
maybe
it's
all
fine,
but
if
you're
more
need
something
exact,
then
there
is
some
something
to
take
in
account.
Yeah
I
do
notice
AI
models.
You
can
also
you
give
different
parameters
to
them
and
make
them
return
more
kind
of
a
free
form
versus
more
accurate.
C
So
there
is
ways
to
optimize
that
and
I
think
if
you
see
AI
appearing
in
products
to
believe
more
at
tenants
to
go
to
the
exact
responses,
depending
on
the
use
case,
I
guess
people
will
tweak
it
as
it
is
a
long
way
to
go
to
embed
this
type
of
technology
in
meaningful
products,
and
but
it's
super
super
promising,
like
yeah.
If
you
start
looking
around,
this
is
really
really
promising
and
interesting,
just
like
even
a
new,
a
new
kind
of
job
description.
Calling
this
prompt
engineering,
I'm.
C
Yeah
I
understand
how
to
talk
to
an
AI,
that's
kind
of
what
it
is
like.
I
asked
this
question:
I
get
output
that
open
is
not
what
I
want.
How
can
I
rephrase
the
question
so
I
get
the
output.
That
is
what
I
need
or
how
can
I
build
like
a
concept
where
I
ask
battle,
questions
pick
the
right.
One
start
another
question.
So
there
was
like
a.
B
B
Exactly
it's:
it's
always
a
cycle,
and
it's
it's
always
basically
one
side
to
another
and
we
we
adapt
on
the
things
now
the
AI
does
to
be
with
all
the
honestly.
With
this
week
and
I
know
it's
showing
more
attention
with
Bing
AI
announcement,
the
the
Google
The
Google
failure
actually
on
their
event
as
well.
In
back
then
100
billion
on
their
stock
value.
That's
a
really
good
example
of
the
of
the
the
massive
disruption
and
disruption.
What
which
is
around
right
now
happening
and
every
single
company
is
now
thinking.
C
That's
a
good
one.
I've
been
thinking
a
bit
about
it,
but,
like
the
obvious
thing
is
you
could
you
could
train
it
on
your
documentation
and
your
samples,
but
the
the
things
you
have
to
first
I
have
enough
documentation
enough
samples
to
get
meaningful
content.
But
if
you
look
at
that
opening
either
is
today
options
to
you
as
anyone
in
the
world
can
take
their
own
data
set
and
train
it
and
kind
of
build
a
like
a
bot
that
you
just
open
the
AI
Tech
on
your
data
to
get
responses.
C
So
we
could
kind
of
make
it
easier
for
folks,
because
now
we
have
all
those
kind
of
samples,
a
lot
of
samples
there.
That's
what
we
have
that
if
there
would
be
like
a
place
to
kind
of
say,
like
I,
need
this
and
then
go
go.
You
know
all
these
samples,
there's
10
000
samples
that
are
I
just
put
a
number
there,
but
that's
the
most
accurate
one,
but
the
the
10
000
samples
and
documentation
pages
yeah
I.
Need
this.
Give
me
the
answer.
Yep.
B
Yeah
yeah,
yeah
or
or
even
if
you
go
to
step
four
or
so,
of
course,
the
chat,
chat,
UI
and
everything
else,
and
that's
coming
now
and
Bing
and
that's
the
whole
thing.
But
but
we
will
certainly
get
to
the
moment
where
you
can
basically
say
hey.
Can
you
give
me
a
SharePoint
framework
solution
which
does
these
things
has
a
web
part
and
an
Ace?
B
C
C
Quite
often
the
first
code
Lane,
it
read
the
comment
and
it
kind
of
comes
up
like
a
block
like
yeah.
You
wrote
this
as
a
comment.
I'm
pretty
sure
you
want
to
do
something
like
this
and
that's
that's
the
same
type
behind
the
scenes,
but
that's
also
surprisingly
accurate,
and
sometimes
you
have
a
scary
scary.
Like
wait,
are
you
reading
my
mind?
No,
no.
You
can't,
but
sometimes.
B
That
does
not
certainly
mean
then
that
we
would
actually
it
would.
It
would
danger
the
job
description
of
a
developer,
because
again,
if
we
have
a
look
on
the
let's
say,
the
the
demand
for
developers
historically,
of
course,
now
we're
in
a
bit
of
a
recession
that
has
been
layouts
and
everything
else,
which
is
horrible,
but
looking
under
the
growth
curve
on
the
demand
for
developers,
why
we
all
of
the
countries
are
betting
on
development,
Technologies
and
and
training
more
developers.
The
demand
is
massive.
A
You
know,
loops
loops
and
Etc
like
the
programming,
Concepts
I,
just
don't
know
on
the
flexion
like
language
and
maybe
some
specific
things
that
are
specific
to
rust
or
go
or
some
other
thing
right.
So
how?
How
much
easier
would
it
be
for
me
to
learn
that
way
as
opposed
to
buying
a
book
or
doing
online
course
or
watching
a
video
I.
C
Think
there
would
be
a
productivity
of
floating
because
it's
always
easier
to
kind
of.
If
you
understand
what
you
want
by
your
current
knowledge
and
then
get
the
new
thing,
and
why
wouldn't
that
be
possible
because,
like
translating
today
is
one
of
the
key
things
that
that
or
any
answer
natural
language
model
large
language
model,
sorry
I
can
do
they.
They
are
really
good
at
doing
that,
but
you
need
to.
They
need
to
be
fed
with
this
is
in
and
this
comes
out
and
you
need
to
be
trained.
B
B
That's
one
of
the
area
where,
in
the
in
the
medical
studies
and
research,
is
not
actually
anymore
to
do
the
actual
research,
it's
more
on
overlapping,
existing
research
data
with
other
research
data
and
then
coming
up
with.
Oh,
my
God,
we
wow,
so
they
don't
necessarily
I
know
that
this
is
already
happening
in
a
medical
industry.
A
B
B
C
A
There
was
another
there
was
the
other
day.
There
was
something
you
know
when
we
talked
talk
about
experts.
One
of
the
folks
who
are
leading
experts
in
in
their
field
ask
the
chat
dpd
about
something
in
their
area
of
work
and
the
the
chatbot
obviously
gave
an
answer
and
the
answer
supposedly
aligned
with
their
line
of
thought,
and
it
was
like.
Oh
man
like
like
like
he's
right.
He
he
agrees
with
me
where
somebody
else
was
like
What.
If
it
was
trained
on
you
yeah
exactly
exactly.
B
Which
is
interesting
as
well,
but
now,
by
the
way
on
the
translation,
I
have
to
say
we
did
got
the
church
APD
in
a
wrong
translation
in
Fitness
language,
which
was
interesting,
and
so
because
again,
you
might
think
that
even
the
language
translations
would
be
easily
doable.
But
it's
not
necessarily
always
the
case
and
that's
that's
a
great
reminder
on
the.
A
B
A
But
I
think
it
could
indicate
like
the
same.
You
know
if
I
don't
understand
right
like
the
way,
for
example,
it
it
deals
with
or
programming
languages
like
it
doesn't
read
word
for
word.
It
tries
to
understand
the
meaning
of
it
and
then
copy
the
meaning
to
that.
So
it's
not
like
you
know
like
when
you
have
a
lexor
and
parser
in
programming.
A
You
know
you
have
something
that
scans
thing
and
understands
tokens
and
words
and
built
out
of
that
abstract,
syntax
tree
and
all
that
and
then
from
that
you
could
go
to
another
language.
Ai
doesn't
do
any
of
that
yeah.
It
looks
at
the
color,
it
tries
to
understand
the
meaning
and
then
based
on
the
meaning.
Okay,
so
you're
trying
to
do
X,
here's
the
code
and
you
and
the
association
in
your
language
will
not
be
word
for
word.
Like
you
had
a
loop
here,
you
will
have
up
here.
C
A
C
Which
are
GPT,
if
you
tell
it,
you
have
to
imagine
that
you're,
like
a
physicist
or
a
engineer,
or
whatever
type
technical
role
and
you're
really
good
at
mathematics.
You
ask
the
question:
like
do
some
calculation
with
with
the
with
brackets,
or
you
have
to
pick
the
right
operator.
First,
that
right,
you
know
the
basic
calculation
stuff
it'll,
give
you
the
right
answer.
It
can
explain
you,
okay,
I!
Did
it
like
this
this
and
this
yeah?
That's?
Why?
If
you
just
say
here,
is
the
the
calculation
give
me
the
answer?
C
B
A
Gonna
be
interesting
and
I.
Think
you
see
this
even
more
with
the
AI
for
images,
you
know
when,
where
you
have
an
image
in
your
mind,
can
kind
of
which
direction
you
want
to
go
and
then
you
write
a
prompt
and
the
AI
doesn't
have
the
context
you
have
so
it
collapse
with.
It
only
looks
at
your
prompt
as
as
the
context
that
it
has
right,
and
then
you
will
get
image
that
is
different
than
what
you
you
had
in
mind
and
you'll
get
kind
of
the
point
like
how.
C
B
C
B
At
the
high
cycle
today,
so
things
will
naturally
go
a
bit
down,
but
yeah
yeah.
That's
always
to
remember
that
I
think
my
favorite
favorite
classic
example,
is
to
remember
the
3D
televisions,
so
that
was
that
was
the
feature
3D.
Where
is
it?
I?
Don't
have
a
3D
television.
So,
but
you
know
it's
it's
interesting.
B
B
B
C
All
these
things
are
kind
of
coming
together,
like
you
get
like
a
really
nice
power,
bi
report,
giving
you
all
that.
Why
would
Insight
in
in?
What's
what's
old
in
classic
and
and
why
do
you
need?
Why
do
you
need
that
yeah
well,
you're
missing
out
on
our
modern
investments
in
SharePoint,
SharePoint
evolves
and
we
are.
We
keep
rolling
and
adding
new
features,
but
if
you
just
stay
where
you
are,
then
you
miss
out
on
those
things
and
and
that's
that's
a
Pity
and
and
sometimes
with
quick
changes.
B
C
Weekly
release,
everything
has
to
be
modernized,
so
it's
not
like
it
like
a
white
thing,
it's
like
a
really
great
big
race
based
between
black
and
white
here,
and
you
have
to
decide
where
it
makes
sense
for
your
organization,
we're
not
all
the
all
team
sites
which
I've
not
been
touched
for
like
five
years
yeah.
Why
would
you
care
about
always
so
meaning
let
let
them
be,
but
relevant
content
sure
make
sure
that
that's
modern
and
that
you
can
benefit.
C
C
B
A
This
week
is
not
going
to
happen
that
much
like
I
basically
have
a
have
they
left.
So
so
it's
doing
some
internal
things,
but
this
week
is
not
going
to
happen
that
much
next
week
back
to
normal
back
to
the
regular
work
where
we're
working
on
the
Microsoft
Grant
developer
proxy
CLI
for
Microsoft
365,
and
we
I
think.
If
I'm
If,
All
Stars
online,
we
will
announce
something
on
February
15.,
so
stay
tuned
for
announcement
for
a
cool
thing
that
we
planned
for
March.
So
stay
tuned
for
more
updates
about
that.
B
B
B
Now
there
will
be
new
features,
I
think
we're
looking
into
webpack
upgrades,
potentially
new
technical
upgrades
and
there's
going
to
be
top
bar
buttons
for
wet
Parts,
there's
going
to
be
ace
improvements,
Viva
improvements
so
across
the
board,
new
stuff
and
I
think
we're
getting
closer
and
closer
to
ship.
Also,
the
preview
of
the
Viva
cards
powered
by
bot
framework,
which
is
not
really
SharePoint
framework,
but
it's
related
on
the
on
the
diva
thing.
B
So
all
of
that
is
well
not
keeping
us
up
and-
and
we
well
at
least
personally
I
sleep
really
well,
regardless
of
the
situation
ever
so,
but
you
know
we
there's
a
lot
to
be
done
on
making
things
happen,
also
we're
looking
into
having
finally
the
Viva
product
type
in
the
app
source,
which
is
rolling
out
pretty
soon
as
well.
So
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
cool
stuff
there
so
but
I
think
that's
it.
Thank
you
Bert.
Thank
you,
waldek
good,
to
have
good
discussion.
B
B
B
Now,
of
course,
the
big
thing
big
news
this
week
has
been
for
sure
the
the
rise
of
an
AI.
What
does
it
mean
and
and
the
big
announcement
and
the
search
engine
competition
related
on
AI
included
in
them,
so
the
big
announcement
on
Tuesday
was
that
the
Bing
will
be
get
modified
or
modernized
quite
significantly.
So
it's
not
necessarily
that
you
use
the
search
engine
anymore
to
search
articles
and
then
go
to
the
Articles
and
find
trying
to
find
what's
relevant
for
you.
B
You
can
actually
ask
from
the
engine
hey
give
me
the
answer,
so
you
don't
have
to
search
to
answer
from
the
multiple
articles
and
that
changes
the
Dynamics
completely.
It's
really
really
cool
and
of
course
it's
not
just
that.
So
from
from
the
announcement,
there
was
a
lot
of
Integrations
related
on
the
the
browsers
and
all
of
that,
so
it's
not
just
the
Bing
but
the
the
chat,
GPD
and
Integrations,
and
that
artificial
intelligence
is
coming
in
many
many
other
areas
as
well.
B
So
it's
been
for
sure
the
number
one
topic
of
today
of
not
today
well
probably
today
as
well,
but
you
know
so
number
one
topic
of
the
week.
Foreign
I'll
talk
about
this
one
as
well,
because
I
was
involved
in
writing
the
article.
So
we
are
also
rolling
out
from
the
Viva
plug
we're
rolling
out
a
new
Viva
connection
experience,
and
this
really
focuses
on
the
Viva
home.
B
We
talked
about
the
Viva
home
a
few
times
in
the
show,
and
this
has
been
articles
and
blog
posts
available,
but
it's
basically
a
free
starting
point
and
free,
easily
configurable
and
available
in
all
tenants
and
as
a
company,
a
starting
point
for
both
mobile
and
desktop,
and
it
really
makes
it
aligned
that
the
experience
based
on
those
dashboard
cards
and
resources
and
feed,
which
is
exactly
the
same
experience
which
is
available.
Then
in
mobile.
B
Now
that
I'm
saying
this
out
loud,
it's
a
bit
of
a
bummer
that
we
don't
actually
have
a
good
picture
that
on
that
mobile
experience
in
the
blog
post.
But
we
do
show
it
in
our
videos
related
on
the
on
the
new
Viva
Home
experience.
So
especially
on
schumann's
video
related
on
customers
and
edit,
your
connection
home
experience
that
actually
demonstrates
also,
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
mobile
experience
and,
and
that's
part
of
this
as
well.
So
it's
not
just
the
desktop.
B
It's
the
mobile
experience
and
rolling
out
new
experiences
as
well
cool
stuff,
all
extensible
with
spfx,
so
you
can
actually
build
Integrations
to
your
lobs
and
all
of
that
stuff
within
this
ux.
So
a
lot
of
lot
of
interesting
opportunities
for
partners
and
customers
on
that
side,
as
well
now
Kathy
do
who
owns
our
SharePoint
templates
and
experiences
and
ux
had
a
new
article
in
a
SharePoint
log.
A
B
A
A
Let
me
like
it
only
proves
the
need
right
that
yeah
ux
is
important,
and
and
for
some
companies
like
expressing
their
brand
through
their
internet
and
size
that
they
built
is
a
key
thing
right
that
for
a
lot
of
companies,
yeah
blinds
the
employees
with
with
them
and
it's
and
it's
a
very
key
thing
for
their
identity
and
as
such,
they
have
the
need
to
customize
and
theme
sites.
So
it's
great
to
see
what
is
available
and
I
think
that
this.
A
This
is
basically
a
recap
of
what
what
you
can
do
today
in
SharePoint
size,
what
you
can
tweak,
what
are
the
options
for
you
to
control
the
UI,
the
ux
and
all
that?
So
this
is
a
great
recap,
article
that
shows
you
what
is
already
there
and
there's
another
article
coming
on
Valentine's
Day,
February,
fantastic.
B
B
A
B
A
A
From
Zero
to
Hero
build
a
meetings
app
with
Azure
communication,
Services
short
ACS
and
Microsoft
teams-
part
two,
so
in
previous
article
you
learned
about
you
know
how
to
get
started
with
ACS,
to
bring
some
of
the
audio
video
meeting
about
this
to
your
app
in
this
article.
You
cannot
take
the
next
step
and,
and
they
talk
about,
you
know
like
how
you
can
combine
it
into
teams
app.
A
How
do
you
bring
together
the
power
of
graph
to
also
Infuse
the
app
with
data
and
insights
and
the
ability
to
interact
with
teams
in
your
app?
So
this
is
a
really
cool
article
that
shows
the
power
of
bringing
together
multiple
ingredients,
Azure
ACS
teams
and
graphs
into
building
a
powerful
end-to-end,
app,
really
cool
thing.
B
Say
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
I
think
this
is
a
really
interesting.
Let's
say
technology
because
again,
let's
say
virtual
meetups
with
your
doctor
and
you
don't
want
to
necessarily
lick
a
click,
a
teams,
meeting
link
you
you
go
to
a
website,
you
sign
in
as
yourself
you
identify
yourself
in
that
website.
You
then
say
connect
and
that
connects
to.
B
Zoom
bombing,
what
is
it?
Is
it
Zoom
bombing?
Yes
and
you
would
have
to
have
the
at
the
zoom
I
don't
know,
but
you
would
have
to
have
teams
installed
and
all
of
that
with
this
you
don't
that's
the
beauty
of
it
so
again,
really
really
interesting
technology
and-
and
we
should
probably
focus
a
bit
on
those
scenarios-
they're
great
great
crates-
let's
say
scenario
talking
what
can
be
done
in
here,
so
not
just
the
technology.
It's
also
about
the
scenarios
to
really
get
your
mind
bubbling
on.
Oh
my
God.
B
This
is
brilliant
now,
something
which
we
need
to
also
call
out
related
on
Microsoft
365,
and
there
was
announced
relatively
recently.
We
actually
missed
it
last
week
that
Microsoft
365
certifications
are
evolving
and
there
are
some
name
changes.
There
are
some
renaming
of
things
and
unfortunately
there
are
some
retirements
as
well.
Now
there
was
an
explicit
ask
to
talk
about
retirement
or
some
of
this.
B
This
search,
but
to
be
honest,
neither
one
of
us
actually
has
all
of
the
details
and
there
are
certain
areas
which
we
don't
want
to
even
speculate,
so
I
would
actually
love
to
have
a
Microsoft
street
is
Thrive
developer
certificate
in
place,
but
it
seems
to
be
that
the
one
which
was
the
closest
which
is
Microsoft
racist
to
our
certified
teams,
application
developer,
associate.
That's
the
ms600
is
now
retiring,
as
I
said
either.
One
of
us
don't
have
exact
details.
Why
and
how
and
will
there
be
a
replacement?
B
Hopefully
there
will
be
and
we're
more
than
happy
to
help
whoever
is
creating
that
replacement,
hopefully
future,
but
knowing
the
demand
on
and
and
how
much
sustensibility
is
being
used,
we
absolutely
need
to
have
a
certificate
here.
It's
highly
beneficial,
so
a
lot
of
changes
in
the
certification
world
when
I
was
young.
Back
in
1935
we
had
the
MCM
training,
some
Microsoft
certification,
Master.
B
B
So,
but
that
was
yeah,
so
I
think
the
certification,
the
value
of
certification
has
been,
let's
say,
moving
around
and
I
think
we.
We
need
to
be
a
bit
more
clear
as
a
Microsoft
on
the
value
and
the
direction
of
their
search
as
well.
So
what's
the
benefit
of
them
and
and
and
why
people
should
be
using
them,
I
think
when
I
started
in
Microsoft
world
the
certificates
was,
they
will
say,
clear
path
of
getting
a
certain
high-end
Advanced,
let's
say
acknowledgments,
which
had
a
tremendous
value.
B
B
Can't
take
that
away
from
me.
Watch
me:
yes,
yeah.
That
program
was
already
disconnected
back
in
2013,
so
you
know
now:
Robbie
Williams
had
a
good
summary
articles
in
the
Microsoft
racist
High
platform,
Community
book
related
on
how
to
create
apps
for
Microsoft
teams,
and
this
kind
of
reference
in
the
Microsoft
teams,
learning
path
and
also
the
team's
toolkit,
so
how
to
get
started
on
that
one
and
making
sure
that
people
find
all
of
the
cool
relevant
information
there.
B
A
Yeah,
it's
basically
again
and
he
keeps
doing
the
awesome
things
like
really
to
push
the
limits
of
what
you
can
do
with
less
and
formatting,
and
they
basically
go
beyond
what
is
available
out
of
the
the
Box
and
basically
achieve
more
like
you
like
he
time
and
again,
he
shows
us
that
you
don't
always
need
to
code
app.
You
can
you
can
go
really
you
you
can
achieve
a
lot.
B
A
B
B
In
our
yes,
two
of
those
thank
you
in
our
open
source
world,
one
of
the
most
popular
sample
Gallery,
is
the
the
list
founding
GitHub
and,
let's
form
the
examples.
There
is
so
many
cool
looking
samples
available
for
people
to
get
adjusted
and
just
just
have
a
look
on
what's
available
and
then
just
plug
it
in,
and
you
can
well
don't
open
up
the
same
one
to
show
another
one:
okay,
yes,
I
will
so
good.
B
A
B
Exactly
like,
where
do
you
start
exactly,
but
all
of
these
are
provided
us
a
open
source,
Json
definitions
and
the
documentation
is
in
place
for
you
to
take
advantage
and
really
that's
that's
how
you
learn
start
by
doing
now,
Marcus
Miller
had
a
a
new
article
as
well
related
on
SharePoint,
documentation,
review
and
outlook
on
teams
and
a
custom
application
built
in
here.
So
basically,
how
do
we
build
that
kind
of
an
experience?
A
B
And
on
the
365
message
center,
so
Danielle
and
Daryl
go
through
all
of
the
updated
messages
or
updates
and
message.
Center
updates
are
basically
those
messages
with
Microsoft
chance,
the
talent
administrators
on
the
changes
which
are
coming.
So
these
are
actually
really
really
great
ways
of
understanding,
oh,
what's
rolling
out,
because
we
want
to
communicate
those
in
the
tenant
level
as
well
and
they
go
through
on
the
latest
episode
on
the
different
upcoming
changes.
There
are
changes
on
the
projects
and
the
video
calls
and
all
of
that
stuff.
B
A
Steel
rose
is
a
p
m
m
in
my
Microsoft
teams.
If
I
am
not
mistaken,
correct
yes,
correct
yes,
like
like
know
you're,
who
is
who
in
Microsoft
right,
yes,
as
you
can
imagine,
being
pmm
on
teams,
a
product
marketing
product
marketing
manager
in
in
teams
like
you
can
already
expect
like
which
direction
conversation
will
go.
It's
gonna
be
about
teams
right.
Yes,
you!
A
A
C
A
B
That's
fair,
that's
fair,
I,
I
and
and
we'd
all
do
honestly.
I
don't
really
care
how
my
name
is
being
pronounced.
So
it's
okay.
As
long
as
I
get
my
attention,
so
I
never
feel
bad
about
calling
people's
names.
Yo
yo
dude
Michelle
had
an
article
related
on
how
to
create
a
video
playlist
for
stream
videos
and
and
a
really
cool
storyline
related
on
Microsoft
list
as
well.
B
Microsoft
list
is
a
free
two
languages
available
within
the
Microsoft
365
and
which
can
be
then
easily
used
to
surface
information
in
a
list
format
and
they
are
actually
pretty
powerful
as
well.
So
you
can
do
a
flexible
presentation
and
you
can
use
actually
those
Json
definitions,
even
in
here
which
is
really
really
cool.
B
Then,
on
the
video
side,
Paula
has
been
moving
on
his
journey
with
the
episode
230
I
think
35
was
the
first
of
the
scripts
episode
if
I
remember
correctly
and
he's
been
kind
of
recovery
in
the
office
groups
and
the
possibilities
there
and
the
latest
one
being
on
the
consuming
external
apis
with
the
prescription
with
Excel
online.
It
gets
interesting
it
doesn't
it
excellent.
A
Online,
so
you
can
now
run
a
piece
of
JavaScript
in
Excel
to
automate
interaction
between
your
script
and
Excel
sheet
right
and
that
is
really
cool
like
for.
For
me,
I
made
a
switch
a
few
years
back
where
I
use
JavaScript
everywhere,
when
I
can
front
and
back-end
terminal
and
now
I
can
also
do
it
in
Excel
sheet.
So
I
just
learned
one
thing
and
I
can
be
a
jack
of
all
trades,
a
master
of
none
yep
well.
A
B
B
A
B
And
it's
actually
good
to
know
those
limitations
Advance,
rather
than
just
focus
on
how
awesome
things
are:
I
I,
I'm,
I'm,
a
pretty
rational
person.
From
that
perspective,
I
appreciate
the
openness
on
limitations
as
well
cute,
and
then
we
had
a
new
video
from
Shenyang
related
on
patch,
complete
SharePoint
columns
with
powerapps
Choice
person,
lookup
manage
metadata.
So
how
do
we
actually
handle
that
data
in
powerapps
because,
of
course,
power?
Apps
can
be
easily
used
to
create
those
forms
and
experiences
which
then
has
a
data
SharePoint
data
source?
B
A
B
Yeah,
absolutely
absolutely
I
still
remember:
I
have
a
whatever
you
were
just
explaining
the
the
massively
complex
value
types,
I
think
it
was
like,
like
person
failed,
or
maybe
it
was
a
hyperlink
or
whenever
I
started.
My
SharePoint
Journey,
like
a
few
years
ago,
I
tried
to.
Of
course,
you
start
with
a
crude
operations,
create,
read,
update
and
delete,
and
then
you
start.
Okay
now,
I
have
I
can
access
the
field.
How
do
I
over
how
do
I
set
the
value
for
the
field?
Yeah?
It
wasn't
easy.
A
B
A
B
B
Across
the
wire
like
that,
would
work
pretty
well
yeah,
that's
true
anyway.
We
already
went
through
what's
going
to
happen
this
week
or
next
week
and
and
all
of
that
with
Bert,
so
Bert.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
one
more
time.
We
didn't
have
a
massive
amount
of
Articles
this
week,
because
again
we
just
recorded
the
previous
episode,
but
we
want
to
keep
the
the
weekly
cycle
releasing
a
Tuesday
every
single
time.
A
B
Anyway,
thanks
everybody
for
watching,
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you
are
in
Twitter,
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But
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That's
it
thanks
to
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Thank
you,
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