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In this installment of the weekly discussion revolving around the latest news and topics on Microsoft 365, hosts – Vesa Juvonen (Microsoft) | @vesajuvonen and Waldek Mastykarz (Microsoft) | @waldekm, are joined by Netherlands-based Global XR Technology and Metaverse Lead - Alexander Meijers (Avanade) | @ameijers. The discussion covers XR technologies today, challenges and business/consumer adoption. What is the role of a XR/metaverse technical lead? What are Microsoft’s XR technologies, partner opportunities and what is the one XR killer app for enterprise office workers? Microsoft and PnP Community delivered 14 articles/videos in the last week! This session was recorded on Thursday, September 15, 2022.
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A
A
A
A
A
Platform,
there's
no
for
a
reason
for
us
to
promote
it,
because
it's
now
ongoing
and
it's
actually
sold
out,
which
is
pretty
cool.
So
there
are
thousands
and
thousands
of
people
already
and
there
the
marketing
has
been
pretty
hectic
so
to
say,
I
think
that's
a
good
way
of
putting
that.
So
it's
been
successful
and
Jeff
deeper,
who
works
closely
with
John
lamanna
who's,
the
the
CVP
for
Power
Platform?
They
they
do
integrate
really
well
and
then
Jeff
deeper
who's.
A
My
skip
skip
manager
will
have
a
keynote
which
is
more
about
the
Power
Platform
in
the
context
of
the
bigger
Microsoft
365,
so
in
the
context
of
teams
and
SharePoint
and
all
of
that
stuff,
and
that's
that's
syntax
and
a
lot
of
stuff,
because
everything
is
getting
now
connected,
which
is
great,
and
you
might
even
say
that
the
power
automate
is
the
clue
between
the
different
Services,
because
that
kind
of
has
the
connectors
and
it
has
the
events
and
everything
else.
What
you
can
automate
so
well.
B
Yeah
and
I
mean
like
there
is,
there
is
so
there
is
the
connection
or
the
way
to
integrate
things
for
users,
which
is
power,
automate,
there's
also
the
API
Microsoft
graph,
which
is
for
pro
pro
Dev
right.
So
absolutely
so,
there's
there's
like
there's
a
really
complete
story,
end
to
end
for
different
audiences,
different
cases
and.
A
A
Okay,
we
have
you
covered
on
the
under
different
set
of
options,
but
today
we're
not
going
to
actually
talk
about
our
visitor.
It's
not
about
development.
As
such,
we
have
a
bit
of
a
different
perspective,
which
is
good
which
well
we
don't
really
deep
dive
on
development
or
the
features
that
much
we
always
Deep
dive
on
the
person,
because
the
people
are
the
most
interesting
part
of
it
for
sure.
So,
who
do
we
have
today
on
the
essay
on
the
visitor
list?
You
can
pronounce.
B
The
name
Sandler
Myers
Alexander
Myers
right,
so
he
is
with
avanade
and
he
works
in
the
XR
space.
So
an
x-r
being
combination
of
mixed
reality,
virtual
reality,
augmented
reality
so
X
being
for
the
it
comes
together
and
Alex,
and
us
will
talk
about
XR
what
it
is.
What
is
for
what
is
where
it's
going
to?
How
does
he
see
that
because
believe
it
or
not
at
one
point
in
life,
he
used
to
be
a
SharePoint
person.
So
there's
some
some
paths
that
we
share
and
it's
really
interesting
to
hear
from
him.
B
A
A
But
let's
jump
on
the
on
the
interview
right
there,
like
sorry,
sorry
about
this
they're
jumping
in
but
I'm
good
excellent,
welcome,
Alexander
joining
on
the
pimpy
weekly
episode
179.
It
is
actually
15th
of
September.
It's
a
bit
of
a
different
schedule
for
us,
as
we
explained
on
the
intro
before
we
joined
on
the
in
the
interview
with
you.
But
let's
start
Alexander,
who
are
you
and
and
what
do
you
do
for
living
and
let's
move
from
there?
Okay.
A
Let's
focus
on
the
work
site
and
more,
but
that
we
can
always,
of
course,
that's
our
family
is
super
important
as
well,
so
so,
no
doubt
but
but
before
we
go
other
areas
and
how
you
get
to
be
what
you,
what
you
do
now
and
what
is
the
career
path,
what
does
being
a
metaverse
technology
lead
actually
means.
So
how
does
the
work?
What
do
you
do
actually.
B
C
Partly
it
is
so
so
yeah,
so
the
the
funny,
so
my
role
is
more
within
the
company.
I
do
also
Hands-On.
So
that's
I
still
do
that,
because
I
love
that
I
love
to
touch
the
technology
I
still
work
with
products
like
Unity
I
have
a
lot
of
headsets
different
types,
I'm
using
Unreal
other
types
of
stuff,
but
my
main
role
is
to
advise
within
the
company
in
the
directions
we
need
to
go
to
specifically
within
my
biceps
part.
C
If
you
talk
about
Native
first,
that's
a
very
interesting
one,
because
for
a
lot
of
people
may
the
first
equals
virtual
reality
and
for
me
it
actually
doesn't
funny
enough.
Yeah
I'm
always
get
a
bit
like
not
saying
upset,
but
smile
on
my
face
when
I
look
at
LinkedIn
and
the
next
post
again
is
is
tag
that
made
the
first
and
I'm
like
that,
has
nothing
to
do
with
Native
clothes.
C
C
Oh,
that,
that's
that's
a
very
good
question
yeah.
What
does
it
mean
for
me?
So
for
me,
I
I
mean
look
at
what
what
Facebook
is
gonna
get
with
the
name,
the
new
one,
the
Cambria,
which
is
the
not
I,
don't
think
that
will
be
the
actual
name,
but
that
one
it
looks
cool.
We
have
seen
some
of
the
pictures
and
video
coming
out
last
week,
which
was
leaked
and
but
I
still
don't
expect.
People
are
gonna
use
ski
goggles
the
whole
day
on
their
hand,
it's
just
not
gonna
happen.
C
The
same
goes.
If
you
look
at
an
hololens
device,
it
is
clunky,
it's
big
and
while
you
can
actually
see
through
it,
it's
still
missing
the
part
where
yeah,
where
you're
gonna
wear
it
for
a
longer
period
and
and
separately,
the
device
can
only
take
about
three
hours.
You
need
a
lot
of
battery
power
to
actually
run
it
longer.
So
when
I
talk
about
Native
first,
for
me,
it's
about
spending
the
physical
places
with
digital
spaces,
and
what
we
try
to
do
is
to
enable
it
to
have
collaboration
and
exchange
value.
C
So
by
doing
sharing,
interactions
and
experiences.
It
still
needs
to
be
kind
of
an
immersive
experience,
but
immersive
does
not
always
mean
to
be
virtual.
So
for
me
the
future
would
be
that
I'm
actually
wearing
glasses,
like
I'm
now,
which
weigh
less
than
100
grand
and
they're
connected
to,
for
example,
my
mobile
phone,
which
has
a
lot
of
compute
power
and
that
will
provide
me
means
in
ways
where
I
can
have
an
immersive
experience
and
and
think
about,
for
example,
I'm
sitting
and
now
sitting
in
my
office.
C
But
let's
say
I'm
sitting
downstairs
on
the
table
and
the
same
meeting
we
are
having
you
guys
are
at
the
same
table
projecting
in
3D
like
an
avatar,
but
maybe
using
holographic
project
projection
or
I'm.
Looking
at
the
right
side
of
my
wall
in
the
living,
room
and
I
can
actually
change
that
view
and
make
a
difference
looking
at
something
which
I
normally
can't
go
to,
because
I
don't
have
time
or
not
the
money
or
maybe
pull
in
some
people
of
my
work
from
an
office
in
there
and
make
that
part
of
my
living
room.
C
C
That's
always
a
lot
of
fun,
because
when
we
try
to
explain
pra
or
an
MR,
I
actually
call
it
XR,
because
it's
just
a
combination
of
everything
and
it
goes
way
further
than
those
three
things.
But
the
difference
between
AR
and
V
and
Mr
is
that
AR
is
just
creating
an
overlay
on
top
of
virtual
of
digital
data
on
a
actual
physical
space.
C
Now
today's
world
mobile
phones,
having
AR
capabilities
like
arcades
and
AR
core,
are
actually
just
mixed
reality,
because
they're
already
doing
that
they're
able
to
take
the
Ikea,
they
can
place
the
table
inside
the
room
and
they
can
have
that
table
standing
there
placed
there
and
then
walk
around
it.
So
for
me,
at
some
point,
everything
will
go.
First,
will
congest
to
one
and
you
see
the
same
happening
with
VR,
because
that's
really
an
interesting
one.
C
Wellman
homelands
is
a
very
expensive
device
and
sometimes
very
difficult
to
sell
to
smaller
clients
even
to
the
bigger
clients,
Enterprise
clients.
They
don't
want
to
spend
too
much
on
those
things
think
about
the
new
versions
of
VR
devices.
They
will
have
passthrough,
which
is
cooler
and
now
I'm
able
to
have
for
a
few
on
the
box.
A
A
Exactly
and
that's
really
as
it
was
explaining
that
the
idea
is
not
and
the
opportunity
is
not
really
the
fact
that
you
will
be
lying
in
a
a
thing
and
you're
fully
in
a
virtual
world,
it's
more
the
fact
that
we
overlay
and
we
bring
the
information
closer
to
people
and
we
help
accessibility
is
a
big
part
of
help,
helping
people
to
succeed,
with
whatever
the
the
overlays
and
and
and
information
to
be
closer
on
people,
and
so
that
is
that
kind
of
a
simplifying
thing.
So
that's
really
the
business
bit
where.
C
D
C
I
think
it's.
It
depends
a
bit
on
what
the
what
the
request
of
the
client
is
because
for
me
it
does
not
mean
it's
like
the
same
with
whole
lens
devices,
I
see
a
lot
of
companies
who
Building
Solutions
throughout
HL,
Auto
lens.
They
try
to
solve
everything
with
hololens,
which
is
just
ridiculous.
You
shouldn't
do
that.
You
should
look
at
every
suggestion
or
every
request
a
client
has
and
based
on
their
current
systems
and
how
you
want
to
get
them
involved.
C
B
C
If
you
can
enable
something
within
the
consumer
area
and
people
like
it,
it
can
actually
push
it
further
in
the
Enterprise
you
saw
with
kofit
people
started
to
understand
how
to
work
in
distance,
using
teams
which
most
people
didn't
do,
and
this
is
just
the
first
step
and
I
think
that's
the
same
with
ar
and
VR
where.
But
it
is
still
very
difficult
thing,
because,
if
I
put
a
consumer
AR
device
like
whole
lens
on
my
head,
they
are
like.
Okay,
it
looks
nice,
but
I
only
see
a
certain
area.
C
That's
the
way
of
how
consumers
think,
because
the
consumer
want
to
have
the
perfect
thing
and
they
want
to
if
they
have
a
virtual
keyboard,
they
want
to
touch
the
keys,
and
as
long
as
you
don't
do,
that
your
device
will
not
be
ready
for
the
consumer.
So
I'm
really
curious,
for
example,
where
apple
is
going
into
because
they
have
a
very
big
backlog
of
consumer
people,
how
they're
gonna
introduce
the
device
and
having
that
being
accepted
by
the
consumer.
B
There
is
an
interesting
point:
I
want
to
ask
you
about
right,
because,
like
one
area,
you
mentioned
that
that
space
is
very
geared
towards
collaboration
right,
but
then
there's
there's
this
other
aspect
that
I
heard-
and
maybe
it
isn't
true
but
I-
think
it
is
that
there
was
the
other
day.
There
was
an
article
saying
that
avanade
gives
all
at
least
new
employees
a
virtual
reality
device
to
assist
them
with
onboarding
so
kind
of
this.
A
part
of
this
employee
experience
how.
D
B
C
That
that's
a
really
interesting
one
and
I
can
take
myself
as
an
example.
So
this
actually
did
not
happen
when
I
bought
onboarded
in
half
and
a
half,
and
the
thing
you're
talking
about
is
actually
from
Accenture
our
big
brother,
but
it's
also
partly
half
an
hour,
but
I
actually
have
never
met
till
till
the
Scottish
Summit
this
year.
Any
of
my
colleagues,
so
my
supervisor
who
lives
in
Toronto,
my
my
colleagues
in
in
Seattle
I
only
know
them
from
teams.
C
In
that
case,
how
we
can
actually
make
use
of
that
in
some
ways,
and
one
of
the
first
things
you're
going
to
start
thinking
about,
is
from
an
HR
perspective
and
they
come
up
with
the
idea
to
do
an
onboarding
in
HR.
So
they
created
a
few
very,
very
beautiful
worlds
in
all
space
here
which
looks
incredible,
which
gives
them
an
introduction.
They
can
meet
up
with
other
colleagues
as
an
avatar.
C
They
can
walk
around.
They
can
learn
about
the
organization
learn
about
because
being
part
of
an
organization
as
big
as
of
not
an
Accenture,
requires
a
lot
of
effort
to
understand
how
processes
work,
there's
a
lot
of
things
which
goes
smooth,
but
there
are
also
a
lot
of
things
which
are
a
bit
more
difficult
than.
C
B
C
A
How
does
the
the
radar
that's
actually
a
really
good
example
of
of
the
old
space
VR
is
a
is
a
great
example
of
having
that
kind
of
a
nice
feeling
on
meeting
people
which,
by
the
way,
works
on
a
browser
as
well.
So
you
don't
actually
need
to
have
the
headset
but
sure
the
headset
experience
is
a
bit
more.
A
Better
I
was
actually
super
impressed
when
we
used
it
in
some
of
the
conferences
and
I
think
it
was
SharePoint
20
year,
whatever
celebration
whatever
and
you
have
that
spatial
audio
and
everything
it
and
that's
really
lost
like
oh
wow
I
can
hear
Mark
Cashman
right
over
there
and
you
can
kind
of
relate
on
that.
That
was
really
like,
oh
okay,
so
there
is
something
into
this.
This
is
really
cool,
but
what
what
would
be
the?
What
are
the
business
opportunities?
D
C
That
said,
Building
Solutions
can
be,
if
you
think
yeah.
So,
if
you
think
about
within
the
whole
sphere,
the
whole
Institute
has
all
those
capabilities,
I'm
able
to
to
use
components
in
error
to
drag
them
around,
to
pick
them
up
to
place
them
somewhere
else
and,
for
example,
I've
been
working
on
with
the
client
which
is
in
the
financial
industry,
and
they
come
up
with
to
have
a
kind
of
a
client
proposal
between
a
client
and
an
advisor.
C
And
initially
they
wanted
to
have
a
multi-user
experience
with
hololens,
and
we
actually
built
one
where
there
is
different
screens
popping
up.
They
can
be
placed
on
the
table.
They
can
also
floating
in
the
air
and
P,
and
the
client
is
actually
selecting
what
kind
of
information
he
wants
to
share
to
the
advisor.
So
the
advisor
can
do
a
number
of
suggestions
to
make
changes
in
their
financial
situation
and
eventually
what
we
did
was
at
some
point.
A
C
C
C
That
said,
you
can
still
build
really
fun
stuff,
so
I'm
actually
working
on
a
medical
example
where
we
create
a
storyline
which
takes
place
in
different
worlds,
built
in
Old
space
VR,
where
you
can
jump
from
one
world
to
another
world
and
we
use
animations
in
there
now.
The
cool
thing
is
that
it
made
all
space
VR
is
that
you
can
actually
extend
it
and
build
your
own
stuff
in
it
by
using
what
we
call
mixed
reality.
Extensions,
but
there's
a
caveat.
C
C
And
the
second
thing
is,
if
you
think
about
mesh
for
teams,
I,
don't
think
they're
going
to
start
with
the
virtual
spaces,
directly.
I
think
they're
going
to
start
with
the
avatars
and
then
at
some
point.
A
few
months
later
introduced
a
way
of
going
into
a
virtual
space,
which
is
actually
all
space
for
art
plus
plus.
C
So
there
are
some
things
which
makes
it
at
the
moment:
challenging
Building
Solutions
for
clients.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
when
we
build
things
in
Old
space
VR.
We
do
World
creation,
which
is
a
very
interesting
thing
to
do,
and
also
to
understand
to
keep
it
available
on
every
type
of
device,
but
because
you
have
to
think
the
more
shaders
you
use
the
more
polygons
you
use
the
more
complex
the
world
will
be
the
more
difficult
it
can
load
or
even
though
don't
bloat
on
the
device.
C
So
that's
one
thing
where
we
specialize
in
the
other
thing
is
trying
to
get
when
we
do
interactions,
keep
it
to
interactable
components,
animations
and
other
ways.
There
are
some
other
things
which
are
currently
in
private
preview,
going
on
which
I
can't
explain,
but
they
can
support
that
a
bit
at
the
moment,
but
it
is
still
challenging
and
inclined
starting
in
Old
space
VR
will
at
some
point
being
moved
to
mesh
for
teams
and
that's
going
to
be
yeah.
Let's
say
that
gonna
involve
some
steps.
A
Related
on
all
of
these
challenges
and
related
on
it's
paying,
let's
say
cool
and
it's
paying
kind
of
an
experimental
things.
Is
this
really?
Is
it
still
a
kind
of
a
hey,
we'll
try
to
figure
out
where
this
mesh
thing
is
and
is
there
a
demand
for
it
or
is
it
actually
something
where
people
are
seriously
investing
on
it
already
or
knowing
that
this
will
be
a
big
thing
potentially
because
of
course,
from
a
Microsoft
side,
we
already
said
that
we're
betting
on
it.
Facebook
is
betting
on
it.
A
C
Two
ways:
I
I,
think
it
is
still
evolving.
It
is
definitely
not
there
where
it
should
be
and
I
think
a
lot
of
companies.
What
I
see
in
the
Enterprise
industry
is
that
a
lot
of
companies
have
heard
about
Beta,
And,
The,
Meta,
Versa
term,
and
they
all
say
I
want
to
do
beta
first,
but
they
really
don't
know
what
it
means
to
do
it
exactly
exactly.
A
C
D
C
Is
almost
ridiculous?
It
should
be
one
in
some
way
if
I
buy
a
nice
cool
shirt
in
one
world,
I
want
to
have
it
on
in
another
world,
and
that
means
that,
and
you
also
already
see
it
a
bit
happening,
you
need
to
have
a
Consortium
who
is
going
to
start
thinking
about
how
those
things
can
integrate.
So
there
is
one
big
challenge
which
we
still
have
to
overcome
and
which
was
definitely
going
to
take
a
few
years
from
now.
C
But
when
you
talk
about
metaphors,
it
could
also
be
like
a
internal
meters
for
a
company
which
is
just
our
own
world,
augmented
virtual
or
in
combination
or
maybe
even
an
app
running
on
powerapps
or
in
an
augmented
app
on
the
mobile
phone
and
as
long
if
you
can
make
it
clear
that
it
gives
you
value
by
having
those
people
in
a
different
way.
Together,
it
is
definitely
going
to
work
for
a
company,
but
yes
to
Define
an
eternal
investment
is
something
which
is
currently
still
very
difficult
to
explain.
Yeah.
A
C
And
and
to
be
honest,
I
also
see
a
difference
when
I
look
at
European
clients
and
look
at
other
clients
from
other
countries,
specifically
America.
You
will
see
that
European
clients
are
a
bit
more
like.
Oh,
we,
let's
wait.
I,
don't
want
to
spend
too
much
money
on
it.
First,
one
to
understand
if
it's
gonna
really
work
before
I'm
gonna
spend
any
money
on
it
and
that's
the
difference.
The
project
the
bigger
projects
are
overseas.
A
And
it's
in
in
bigger
world
I
would
say
it's
evitable
evitable
that
we're
heading
here
and,
like
I,
said
that
the
mobile
like
hololens
and
overlays
and
mobile-
that's
such
a
brilliant
Ikea.
That's
I'm
going
to
flick
this
sofa
to
something
else.
Oh
that
looks
good,
so
I'm
going.
Okay,
that's
such
a
great
scenario,
so
we
are
certainly
heading
there.
But
then
what?
When,
will
the
this
kind
of
an
explode?
And
and
do
you
want
to
be
the
early
adapter?
Do
you
want
to
be
the
when
it's
actually
exploded.
A
D
C
D
B
C
A
Technology
I
would
have
the
technology
evolves
and
then
hololens
is
a
really
good
example.
I
think
it
was
two
weeks
ago
when
the
the
United
States
Army
basically
said
yeah
we're
gonna
actually
bet
on
this
heavily
and,
and
that
was
like
billions
and
billions
and
billions.
And
yes,
it's
an
army,
and
yes,
the
the
Army
is
debatable
that
it's
an
army
which
is
going
to
use
that,
but
that
investment
will
eventually
be
visible
in
the
consumer
side.
C
Yeah
I
really
don't
know,
as
you
know,
they
don't
share
with
us
anything
about
the
devices
they
even
don't
do
it
internally,
so
yeah.
So
that's
always
funny.
If
someone
says
there's
going
to
be
a
hole
in
stream,
like
you
really
don't
know,
there's
so
small
community
in
Microsoft
they're,
only
nuts
yeah,
it
doesn't
know,
what's
happening.
C
But
those
deals
are
really
important.
I
was
really
happy
that,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
in
certain
uncertainty
going
on
and
a
lot
of
news
broadcast
stations
where,
like
oh,
it's
not
going
to
happen,
and
now
suddenly
the
Army
has
said
yeah,
it's
going
to
happen
perfect,
because
that
gives
the
Boost
to
move
further.
If
it's
going
to
be
in
Homeland,
it's
going
to
be
a
combination
with
Samsung
with
a
virtual
reality.
C
Headset,
it
doesn't
matter
it's
going
to
move
forward
and
it
means
that
Microsoft
will
still
stay
within
the
space,
which
is
good
because
for
me
and
I
I
don't
want
to
offend
Microsoft
on
that
part.
They
have
done
a
lot
of
the
things
in
the
past
with
devices
yep,
oh
and
experiments,
and
a
lot
of
these
devices
did
not
were
were
moved
out.
I
think
that
it
hits
finally
the
first
one.
They
actually
are
front
runner
in
in
the
world
and
that's
good
yeah.
That's
really
good.
D
B
C
C
What
I
do
think
is-
and
this
is
this
is
definitely
the
power
with
Microsoft
hands.
Microsoft
has
the
ability
to
build
a
lot
of
stuff
like
powerapps,
like
obviously
65
like
Dynamics,
and
all
those
things
integrate
so
well
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
be
the
game
changer,
so
I
expect
there
will
be
at
some
point
an
app.
It
allows
me
to
move
from
teams,
I'm,
not
saying
that's
mesh
for
teams,
but
there
will
be
in
some
way.
C
I
can
actually
move
to
not
even
my
phone
or
my
laptop,
which
is
currently
possible,
but
to
a
VR
headset
or
to
a
whole
lens
or
to
a
magic
leap
or
anything
and
I.
Think
the
moment
when
that
is
possible
and
you
can
pull
in
all
that
data
from
all
those
systems
and
start
them
working
doing
able
to
extend
your
work
in
those
spaces,
and
you
can
decide
yourself
if
you
do
it
one
hour
or
do
it
a
few
hours
or
you're
going
to
stay
the
whole
day
in
there
I
think
that's
going
to
be.
C
A
C
Confidence,
you
can
actually
see
that
Microsoft
did
a
Incredible
Cool
move
I
mean
mesh
for
mesh
actually
exists
already
sometime
yeah,
and
there
is
that's,
that's
no
new,
that's
not
not
new.
There
is
an
SDK
and
the
idea
of
mesh
is
that
you
have
a
number
of
capabilities
where
you
can
take
part
of
it,
and
the
funny
thing
is
in
that.
You
already
see
it's
it's
on
top
of
azure,
it's
on
top
of
unified
graph
API,
which
is
perfect,
because
that's
exactly
what
you
want
what
they
did
incredibly
well
this
year.
C
I
was
so
happy
with
that
they
they
did
not
push
the
mass
SDK,
but
they
said
we're
going
to
do
mesh
for
teams,
because
your
team's
audience
worldwide
is
so
large.
That
is
the
perfect
place
to
start
with
focus
on
those
office
workers
and
then
start
building
it
out.
If
it's
going
to
be
virtual,
it's
going
to
be
integration
with
power
ads.
Whatever
it's
going
to
be
that's
going
to
work,
trying
to
sell
an
SDK
and
then
hopefully
having
some
companies
third
party
you're
going
to
build
something
around
it.
C
A
Yeah,
it's
super
interesting
to
see
what's
happening
there
now
from
a
timing
perspective
I
wanted
to
ask
one
more
thing
from
your
past
and
we've
talked
about
now:
the
future
and
visions
and
all
of
that.
But
but
how
does
one
person
gets
to
be
the
the
metaverse
technology
leading
in
Avenue?
So
what
have
you
done?
How
what
is
your
career.
B
C
C
C
and
funny
enough.
They
then
Holland's
one
came
on
the
markets
and
they
had
one
shipped
from
Canada
to
Canada
through
the
Netherlands,
because
it
was
not
able
to
get
one
in
the
Netherlands
and
they
played
a
bit
around
with
it
and
then,
as
usual,
the
the
damn
thing
I
can
say
that
I
presume
yeah
went
into
one
of
the
shelves
and
nobody
looked
at
it
anymore,
because
people
were
a
bit
afraid
what
to
do
with
it.
C
So
I,
actually
Steve
I
was
able
to
take
it
with
me
at
home
during
the
during
the
week
and
then
I
had
a.
We
had
a
dinner
I
think
with
one
of
the
owners
of
etsy,
and
he
said:
do
you
have
the
device
I
said?
Yes,
also
have
it
in
the
weekends
oh
yeah
and
I
was
like?
Is
that
who
gave
you
permission
for
that?
So
I
said
marketing
no
problem
and
he
was
laughing
about
that,
but
funny
enough.
C
For
me,
that
was
the
first
step,
so
I
tried
to
start
how
can
I
develop
for
it
and
from
one
game
the
other
I
actually
took
the
device
at
some
point
every
day
home
at
some
point
it
was
continuously
in
my
back
I
know
so
many
fans
where
you
were
too
where
people
were
looking
at
me
like
you're
ridiculous.
Why
are
you
focusing
on
the
device?
That's
not
gonna
work.
It's
a
gadget,
I
I
know
those
discussions
we
had
in
in
Belgium
on
an
event.
D
C
I
think
the
advantage
for
me
was
that
I
had
development
skills
on
C
plus,
plus
and
c-sharp,
and
for
me
the
the
only
thing
I
had
to
learn
was
Unity
at
that
time
and
that
actually
learns
really
quickly
and
at
that
time
I
was
able
to
start
building
stuff.
And
if
you
look
at
my
first
project,
it
looked
ridiculous.
C
That
was
the
fun
thing
now.
Eventually,
it
came
up
with
the
max
reality,
User
Group,
which
is
nowadays
the
global
sub
community.
So
we
have
to
Global
circumference.
So
that's
good
and
I
think
the
step
for
me
with
Alpha
Niles
was
really
cool
because
from
small
companies
I
went
to
Enterprise
companies
and
then
suddenly
you
need
to
think
about
it's
not
only
about
the
devices
anymore.
Well,
for
example,
if
I
wanted
to
install
a
device
for
a
client
within
my
previous
companies,
it
was
just
installing
the
device
put
an
account
on
it.
C
Hey
we're
ready,
Enterprise
clients
expect
that
it
will
fit
within
their
organization's
security.
Better
roll
out
goes
completely
as
it
should
be
that
you're
using
a
lot
of
stuff
around
that
and
those
projects
are
way
more
bigger
and
more
complex,
and
that's
actually
the
next
step
for
me,
which
has
given
me
so
much
learning
in
the
last
two
years
and
I
I
still
say
this
to
everyone
every
day,
I
learn
something
new
and
that
is
the
most
cool
of
the
job.
I
have
yeah.
C
A
A
It's
cool
to
see
the
the
you
mentioned
the
community,
and
that
was
also
a
way
of
you
getting
to
present
and
getting
more
visibility,
because
the
one
of
the
key
Powers,
what
we've
been
having
related
on
SharePoint,
is
for
sure
the
historical
community
and
how
we
built
the
the
ship
on
Saturdays,
which
then
transformed
to
be
something
else.
And
now
a
lot
of
the
SharePoint
people,
like
you,
SharePoint
person,
is
then
building
another
community
and
building
other
things.
A
C
That
yeah
it's
an
organic
way
of
growing
new
communities.
It's
and
I
actually
like
that,
and
it's
funny
to
see
I
actually,
because
we're
running
gallblazer
conference
we're
gonna
change.
We
did
Global
extra
talks,
a
lot
which
is
monthly
talks,
we're
gonna
change
it
to
a
three
monthly
one,
we're
still
discussing
how
we
want
to
fill
that
in
because
we
want
to
give
more
content,
and
you
also
see
other
things
popping
up
like
the
native
verse.
One
event
I
saw,
which
is
purely
focused
on
the
Microsoft
perspective
in
global
XR.
C
We
go
a
bit
further
than
that.
We
also
look
at
non-microsoft
stuff
because
that's
that's
definitely
important,
but
it
is
so
cool
to
see
that
happening
and
and
yeah
I
like
that.
I
see
that
yeah
I,
like
that
within
the
community
and
yeah.
For
me,
that's
good,
because
this
is
something
I
work.
The
whole
day
with
I
mean
for
I
think
that
people
who
know
me
from
Anthony
Martel,
who
knew
that
it
was
not
able
to
work
with
this
every
day
and
actually
working
full-time.
C
A
A
But
it
but
really
cool
and
an
understanding,
really
the
business
value
and
understanding
where
we
are
with
that.
So
it's
actually
really
cool
to
see
and
as
I
said
well,
I
think
the
main
learning
from
your
past
as
well
is
learning
and
being
open
for
learning
new
things
every
single
day,
because
again
that's
how
we
get
better
and
learn
and
get
those
opportunities.
So
it's
really
really
cool
discussion.
It
any
last
comments
and
things
for,
for
you
too,.
C
Yeah
I
think
that
that's
a
good
one,
because
I
think
to
focus
freely
on
the
Microsoft
Parts
definitely
go
to
the
learning
websites
of
Microsoft.
There
is
definitely
already
some
learning
stuff
around
mixed
reality.
Look
at
the
mrtk,
which
is
the
next
reality
toolkit,
which
you
can
actually
start
building
stuff
for
devices
like
homelands,
but
also
for
virtual
reality
devices
as
for
mobile,
so
that
is
it
from
a
developer
perspective,
the
best
place
to
start
with
and
from
there
you
will
find
everyone
in
the
community.
C
It
goes
easily
go
to
GitHub
and
from
their
point
you
will
see
all
the
names
and
please
do
not
hesitate
to
reach
out
to
people.
You
can
do
that.
Everyone
within
we
have
a
very
small
mixed
reality:
MVP
company,
not
company,
sorry
Community,
start
a
company,
but
they
are
all
eager
to
help
each
other,
but
also
eager
to
help
others,
so
don't
don't
be
afraid,
reach
out
to
them.
They
will
always
help
you.
A
A
D
A
My
future
product
product
Market
fit
yes
exactly.
Thank
you,
but
it's
thank
you.
Thank
you
a
lot
and
but
really
really
good
discussion
on
on
those
aspects,
and
and
really
it's
interesting
to
say
that
about
the
future
print.
A
lot
of
AIT
big
Enterprises
are
now
betting
on
that
this
will
be
the
next
make
thing
and,
and
most
likely
it
will
be.
But
when
is
the
key
question,
so
I
still
remember
so
not
saying
that
this
would
not
fly,
but
remember
all
of
the
televisions
with
3D
effects
for
home
at
some
point.
B
B
A
Exactly
so
we'll
see
how
how
well
the
VR
and
XR
will
find
the
business
audience.
I
think
that's
the,
but
no
doubt,
for
example,
in
the
in
the
Oculus
World,
that's
been
insanely
successful,
so
our
kid
loves
Oculus
I
do
my
exercises.
I
haven't
done
for
a
while
with
tokolos,
but
now
the
winter
is
coming
and
it
can't
go
out
anymore
because
it
will
be
frozen.
So
so
you
need
to
do
your
exercise
indoors,
so
you
you
need
skis,
if
only
there
would
be
enough
snow.
Yes,
absolutely
so,
we'll.
A
B
D
D
A
Yeah,
theoretically
at
least
yes,
there
we
go
anyway.
So
let's
jump
on
the
on
the
weekly
articles,
we're
not
going
to
cover
well.
Actually
we
do
have
quite
a
few
articles
still,
even
though
we
recorded
the
the
previous
one
only
a
few
days
before,
but
let's
jump
on
the
Articles
and
go
through
them.
So,
first
of
all,
there
was
a
new
blog
post
written
by
Me
by
Well,
published
by
me.
A
There's
there's
other
people,
always
Reading
Writing,
some
of
this
stuff
as
well
around
the
most
used
SharePoint
framework
solutions
from
the
store
August
2020
Edition.
So
this
is
just
a
summary
around
the
top
10
solution
providers,
which
are
coming
from
the
store.
Now
we
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
big
isvs
which
are
coming
outside
of
the
store,
but
the
store
is
a
really
interesting
opportunity
for
many
of
the
partners
as
well.
A
B
Yeah,
so
he
wrote
an
article
which
is
really
in
a
way
a
customer
case
about
priority
Matrix
and
how
they
use
Universal
actions
for
for
adaptive
cards
right.
So
this
is
a
really
interesting
feature
that
it's
one
of
those
things
that
spans
multiple
products
on
Microsoft
365
and
it's
a
really
cool
way.
The
way
to
use
it
like.
How
does
that
that
drive
to
increase
adoption,
increase
engagement?
All
that
so
really
interesting
case?
A
And
really
really
cute
pointer
on
also
a
bit
data
driven,
so
they
basically
have
a
explicit
details
related
on
the
impact
of
the
feature
as
it
should
be.
So
nowadays
we
are
much
and
we
should
pay
much
more
data
driven,
not
such
cheap
stuff,
because
we
guess
that
it
will
be
impactful.
We
should
know.
Is
it
impactful
or
not?
So.
A
So
reference
templates
with
example,
content
where
people
which
people
can
actually
provision
from
the
lookbook
SharePoint,
lookbook,
so
cool
stuff
as
well
and
cool
to
have
another
another
template
in
the
local
service.
So
really
really
cool
cute.
And
then
we
had
a
blog
post
from
Adam
Wojcik,
see
I'm
I'm,
the
pronunciation.
B
A
B
That
you
don't
have
to
I'm
sorry
right,
so
he
wrote
an
article
about
what
are
the
different
options
that
you
can
set
in
CLI
for
Microsoft
365
to
make
it
work
the
work.
The
way
you
wanted
to
so
see
you
live
from
Microsoft
365
is
a
command
line
tool
that
you
can
use
to
automate
the
manager,
the
management
of
Microsoft
365
and
also
work
with
your
SharePoint
framework
projects
like
upgrade
them
from
different
versions,
optimize
them
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
B
Okay,
and
over
the
last
few
years,
it
grew
a
lot
like
we
went
from
one
command
to
a
few
hundred.
Now
over
the
course
of
years.
We
added
features,
and
with
that
we
thought
you
know
what
like
we
shouldn't
like.
We
want
to
offer
multiple
ways
for
the
tool
to
work,
depending
how
you
want
to
use
it.
So
as
such
over
the
time,
we've
added
different
options.
B
A
Absolutely
thank
you
Adam
on
that,
and
then
we
had
a
blog
post
in
the
master
trade,
headset
developer,
I'm,
sorry,
platform,
Community
plug
on
how
to
generate
an
HTML
table
with
the
output
of
SQL
Server
query
and
send
it
from
Outlook
by
using
Power
Platform,
so
really
yeah.
Quite
a
lot
of
products,
quite
a
lot
of
technical
terms,
but
do
one
is
explaining
a
scenario
here
as
step
by
step
with
screenshots.
What
are
we
actually
doing?
How
do
we
do
the
SQL
query?
How
do
we
select
the
Day
post?
A
How
do
we
then
transform
that
and
send
it
in
email
with
the
power
automator,
so
it
actually
really
really
cool
scenario
when
I
think
about
it
so
collecting
relevant
business
data
and
sending
that
for
a
daily
reports
in
email,
so
for
the
leadership,
so
actually
quite
common
scenario,
which
somebody
might
be
asking,
and
you
can
do
all
of
that
using
power
automate
super
easily
and
the
blog
post
covers.
Then
how
do
you
actually
do
that?
What
are
the
options
and
and
step-by-step
guidance
on
getting
things
moving
that
looks
actually
quite
nice.
So
great.
A
B
So
recently,
USA
and
your
team
released
SharePoint
framework
version
1.15.2.
Yes,
you
have
right
so
AC,
as
he
typically
goes.
He
goes
through
the
latest
release.
Dissect
set
jumps
into
the
different
features,
additions
and
changes,
and
also
improvements
right.
So,
if
you're
interested
what's
under
the
hood
in
SharePoint
framework
version,
1.15.2
check
out
the.
A
Video
yeah,
absolutely
and
from
a
Microsoft
side,
always
remember,
remember,
remember
to
provide
us
feedback.
What
do
you
need?
Whatever
you
need
to
improve?
There's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
here
is
coming
as
an
adjustments
based
on
the
input
from
the
community
like,
for
example,
updated,
TS,
lens
roll
configurations
is
something
which
is
directly
coming
from
the
feedback
which
I
got
from
the
community.
So
please,
please,
please
give
the
feedback
coming.
We
are
here
for
you.
Now,
on
the
powerapps
blog
post,
we
had
a
new
blog
from
yuris.
A
They
agree
Twitter
through
sustain
your
program
manager,
it's
Dodge,
yes,
you're
right,
yes,
I,
guess:
Power
FX,
introducing
Parts
Jason,
so,
basically
there's
now
a
new
function
available
called
parse
Json,
which
helps
on
adjusting
and
parsing
the
information
directly
from
Json
blobs.
So
a
lot
of
the
apis
and
automation,
of
course,
nowadays,
especially
with
the
connectors
it's
about
Json,
so
having
an
efficient
way
of
parsing
and
the
information
in
a
Transformations
responses
is
important
so,
and
this
is
going
to
help
on
that
a
lot
so
cool
to
see
things
like
this.
A
B
It's
the
Expressions
right,
so
these
are
the
Expressions
you
build
and
I
guess
like
I
would
say
that
this
is
invaluable
in
cases
where
you
want
to
call
call
an
API,
but
you
don't
have
a
connector
to
it
right
because
again,
if
you
have
a
connector,
you
have
a
model
of
response,
but
it's
exactly
what
you
call
an
API
that
you
don't
know
where
you
just
call
it
one.
Often
there
isn't
a
whole
connector.
B
B
A
So
how
could
we
do
something
like
this
and
then
having
a
notifications
related
on
the
guest
access,
so
really
actually
super
valuable
business
scenario
and
useful,
useful
stuff,
which
we
can
automate
so
and
it's
quite
simple,
actually
using
the
stli
for
Microsoft
365,
and
you
just
need
to
have
the
right
level
of
an
API
registration,
so
you're
able
to
call
and
access
the
animated
apis
and
then
collecting
the
information
and
then
sending
that
in
email
really
really
cool
stuff.
Thank
you,
Martin
for
sharing
this
one
great
stuff.
A
B
B
But
apparently
there
is
a
need
for
that
for
folks
to
record
a
video
and
post
it
on
teams,
as
opposed
to
typing
and
I've,
seen
it
like
to
be
honest
internally
I've
seen
it
done
once
and
person
did
it
explicitly
because
they
were
talking
about
something
sensitive
or
something
that
wanted
that
they
wanted
to
be
really
clear
about
the
tone
and
emotion
and
they
used
exactly
that.
It's
like.
B
A
good
fun
ways
like
like
right,
like
because
oftentimes
things
like
sarcasm
emotions
they
just
just
don't
carry
when
you
write
stuff
down
right.
It's
really
hard
to
carry
the
emotion
over
the
decks
you
write,
so
this
is
a
really
great
way
like
if
you
have
something
that
you
really
want
to
be
super
clear
about
the
way
you
want
to
explain
things
things
like
like
emotion
or
that's
just
the
way
you
prefer
to
communicate.
Well,
that's
a
feature.
You
should
definitely
try
and.
A
And
of
course,
there's
how
do
you
transfer
the
emotions
with
with
the
written
text
in
my
chairs,
but
they
can
be
understood
in
a
different
way
as
well,
so
having
that
that
actual
video
clip
helps
a
lot
because
then
you
can
really
feel
that
and
see
the
the
face.
Reactions
and
everything
else
is
this
sarcasm.
Is
this
true?
Are
they
angry?
Are
they
not
or
whatever
it
is
so
I?
Guess
it's
wrong.
Now,
in
the
business
world
we
we
are
so
used.
A
We
are
a
bit
older,
I'm,
a
bit
older
than
you
are
even
but
I'm
super
I'm,
so
old,
but
it's
it's
basically
we're
so
used
to
write
stuff
and,
as
the
format
was
email
and
the
communication
channel
was
email
and
the
the
it
feels
more
natural
for
us
to
do
it
in
a
freedom
format
and
now
for
the
younger
generation.
That
might
not
be
the
case,
but.
D
B
There
are
paragraphs
and
headings,
I
can
just
skip
to
the
thing
that
I
need.
If
it's
a
video
and
I
don't
know
it,
and
there
are
no
chapters
and
nothing
if
you
are
forced
to
sit
I
mean
you
can
try
to
listen.
You
know
1.5
speed
and
see.
If
you
can
patch
the
right
things
you
want
you
you
want
to
hear,
but
basically
your
at
Mercy
of
the
person
who
recorded
the
video.
B
A
Absolutely
100
correct
in
general,
this
is
a
great
podcast
and
a
show
from
Darwin
and
Clint,
because
they've
always
structured
the
latest
announcements
in
the
message
center
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
interesting
stuff
like
the
949
video
show,
is
coming
by
default
on
teams
meeting
and
so
on.
So
then
they
focus
on
the
one
thing
to
talk
about
it.
D
B
Yeah
that
so
that
is
a
part
of
the
new
webcast
that
they
do
around
around
depth:
development
right,
so
different
platforms,
different
Frameworks,
different
Technologies
techniques
and
so
forth,
and
in
this
episode
they
talk
about
browser
native
now.
What
is
that?
Well,
you
know
when
I
was
10
or
12
there
was
this
Library
named
jQuery
and
I
guess
that
was
the
time
when
it
was
the
most
popular
thing.
B
That
probably
everybody
knows
because
at
that
point
in
time
you
know
browsers
were
incompatible
and
it
was
really
hard
to
build
something
that
would
work
everywhere.
So
with
that
we
got
the
library
that
would
patch
that,
and
it
would
basically
offer
developers
a
consistent
experience
to
build
for
every
audience.
They
would
have
right
over
time.
B
You
know
from
there
we
went
through
other
Frameworks
and
libraries
and
forth
and
so
on,
but
now
we're
on
in
a
point
that
many
of
the
things
that
back
in
the
days
were
for
which
we
need
to
have
a
tool
are
available
in
browser
and
people
turns
out
many
people
don't
know
about
it.
So
if
you
want
to
learn
a
thing
or
two
check
out
this
episode,
because
you
might
not
need
the
libraries
and
the
extra
load
you
add
to
your
apps,
yes,.
A
A
B
A
Just
a
brilliant
example,
not
precisely
on
this
particular
topic,
but
it's
brilliant
example
of
the
things
that
well
I
need
to
do
some
dead
date.
Calculation
I,
don't
want
to
write
it
down
myself,
I'll,
just
pull
it
down
the
moment.
Yes
and
that's
like
five
megabytes
or
whatever
so,
but
there's
everything
implicitly
saying
in
their
documentation
do
not
use
us.
There
are
better
options,
but
how
would
you
know
so?
It's
just
staying
up
today.
So
it's
yeah
moment.
The
moment
is
a
really
good
example
of
it.
They
ex.
A
If
you
go
to
their
documentation,
they're
explicitly
saying
do
not
use
us
anymore.
Please
don't
use
dragons
yeah
exactly
good,
and
then
we
have
two
videos,
so
Laura
Rogers
had
a
new
Power
Hour
live
streaming
in
YouTube,
which
is
around
flow.
Excel
actions
generate
chart
report
and
and
a
really
nice
a
bit
more
than
one
hour
clarification
on
how
to
make
things
happen,
with
the
power
automate
and
Integrations
with
Excel,
and
then
outputting
data
based
on
that
full
automation,
so
really
really
cool
stuff.
B
This
is
a
great
video
like
so
Shane
has
been
working
with
pop-ups
for
a
long
time.
You
can
imagine
that
that
over
these
years
he
got
a
lot
of
experience
the
thing.
Yet
you
can
do
any
things.
You
should
never
do
so
in
this
video.
He
shares
five
best
practices
for
building
and
working
with
power.
Reps.
A
Yep,
greater
radical,
so
good
good
job
on
there
and
good
to
call
out,
there's,
probably
even
more
ideas.
What
are
the
best
practices
but
I'm
sure
that
Shane
will
come
up
with
a
more
videos
on
those
things
cool,
that's
it.
For
this
week
we
had
a
short
moment
of
a
a
new
articles
because
of
the
the
scheduled
recording
being
not
full
week,
but
we'll
be
back
with
a
one
and
a
half
weeks,
recording
time
for
the
next
one.
So
any
interesting
things
for
you
next
week.
A
B
Listening
we're
in
the
middle
of
it
and
we're
in
the
middle
of
the
thing
that
is
Microsoft
hack,
so
at
Microsoft.
Oh,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
spend
a
week
or
a
part
of
it
or
how
much
you
can
or
you
want
to
on
doing
a
hack,
basically
building
something
learning,
something
fixing
something
something
that
you
wouldn't
get
to
do.
Otherwise,
right
so
and
last
time
around
last
year,
I
didn't
do
it
and
I
was
like
well
I,
mean
sure.
B
I
have
enough
time
in
my
work
that
I
could
make
time
for
it,
but
it's
so
cool
also
to
get
to
work
with
other
folks
outside
your
team.
So
as
we
speak,
if
all
is
well
we're
working
on
something
very,
very
cool
related
to
Microsoft
graph,
that
we
hope
that
we
will
be
able
to
share
publicly
in
foreseeable
future,
like
our
goal
is
to
be
able
to
be
done
by
the
end
of
the
week,
but
whether
we'll
be
already
able
to
show
it
by
the
end
of
the
week.
B
A
Critical,
it's
exciting,
exciting
times,
I'll
be
next
week
in
Orlando,
flying
in
on
Saturday
arriving
late,
late,
late,
I
have
to
say
this
or
even
on
a
recorder.
This
is
actually
a
booking
the
flights.
They
were
offering
me
a
transfer
in
Dallas
with
with
the
one
and
a
half
hours
transfer
time,
and
that
includes
package
luggage
and
then
Customs
I'm
like
yeah.
That's
not
gonna!.
A
D
A
A
A
But
yeah
the
same
is
actually
it's:
it's
actually
the
mental
mindset,
it's
interesting
when
you're
traveling,
when
you're
watching
the
or
visualize
the
map
I'm
flying
back
from
Orlando
to
Chicago
and
you're
like
yeah,
but
that's
in
a
wrong
direction.
Well,
actually
it
isn't
because
it
goes
all
the
way
through
North
so
to
Helsinki.
We
don't
you
don't
fly
Wester
East.
It
will
fly
through
the
North.
B
A
In
your
mind,
if
you
have
a
look
on
it
in
a
map
or
in
a
Google
map,
you're
like
oh,
it's
not
that
much
on
the
on
the
vest.
That's
I
thought
it
was
because
actually
from
Chicago
to
Seattle,
that's
a
huge
area.
It's
like
massive
yeah
yeah
so
and
that's
like
for
me,
Chicago,
as
always
in
the
middle
of
you,
know,
New
York,
Chicago
Seattle,
and
it's
like
it's
then
start
watching
the
map
and
you're
like
oh,
no,
no,
not
demon.
B
A
Yep,
exactly
that's
what
it
is:
that's
what
it
isn't
it
and
I'll
be
there.
So
as
well
as
this
one
was
released,
the
Power
Platform
conference
is
ongoing
or
flying
back
later
on
the
week
with
this
mode,
nice
good
good
opportunity
of
catching
up
with
Flight
of
the
community
members
as
well,
and
then
that's
the
fixuck
learning
week,
which
of
course,
I
cannot
participate
because
of
these
reasons.
But
you
know
it's
I'm
learning
in
the
power
conference
right
there.
B
A
Yes,
I;
yes,
yes,
anyway,
thanks
everybody
for
watching
that's
episode,
179!
Thank
you,
Alex,
one
more
time
for
joining
on
the
on
the
discussion
about
the
metaverse.
That
was
really
really
cool
and
it's
good
to
have
kind
of
that
future
Innovative
discussion.
What
does
it
actually
mean
in
practice
right
now
on
potentially
in
the
future?
Nobody
can
really
predict
the
future
as
such,
but
it's
good
to
have
inspiration
on
where
we
are
heading
right.