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From YouTube: Road to Mina's Next Upgrade | A Community Event
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Watch the playback from a Mina community event to learn from ecosystem contributors about product updates and progress toward Mina’s mainnet upgrade.
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Slide deck: https://bit.ly/3PjF2Mq
Mina Protocol – the world's lightest blockchain
A
A
This
is
so
exciting
to
see
all
these
familiar
names
thanks.
Everyone
for
joining,
maybe
I,
can
gradually
start
to
kick
it
off,
while
people
keep
joining,
because
we
have
quite
a
full
agenda
for
today,
so
just
to
introduce
myself
to
those
who
don't
know
me
yet.
My
name
is
Christine
Yip
I'm
on
the
community
team,
at
the
Mina
Foundation
and
today
on
the
call
we
have
many
people
from
the
Mina
Foundation
team
go
on
Labs,
Mina's,
ecosystem
partner
and
I'm,
also
so
glad
to
see
so
many
members
from
the
community.
A
A
We've
also
heard
about
a
lot
of
feedback
and
desire
for
more
information
and
closer
involvement
in
a
journey
towards
Mina's
upcoming
major
upgrade,
while
this
call
won't
be
unveiling
specific
launch
days.
Our
aim
is
to
provide
you
with
deeper
insights
into
the
ongoing
progress
we
want
to
keep
our
community
members
informed
as
we
navigate
this
some
exciting
path
together,
and
this
call
is
meant
to
be
the
first
step
in
that
conversation.
A
Let's
get
started
for
everyone's
information.
This
call
is
going
to
be
recorded,
I'm
sure
there
are
members
who
want
to
keep
up
to
date,
but
they
might
not
be
able
to
join
so
we're
recording
this
call
for
them.
A
Here's
agenda
for
today
for
some
housekeeping
there
will
be
a
small
introduction,
then
we'll
go
to
product
updates,
ecosystem
related
product
updates.
Then
there
will
be
a
community
highlight
on
Mina
indexer
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
product
updates
related
to
test
World
Mission,
2.0
and
Nina's
upcoming
upgrade
we'll
end
with
in
Q
a,
and
that
brings
me
to
housekeeping
as
well
I'd
love
to
ask
everyone.
If
you
have
a
question
during
the
meeting,
please
take
a
note
of
it.
Don't
forget
it
and
please
save
them
for
the
end.
A
When
we
have
the
Q
a
section
or
you
can
simply
add
them
into
the
chat
at
the
right
there
should
be.
You
should
see
like
a
chat
bubble
at
the
on
your
screen.
If
you
click
on
that,
the
chat
screen
will
appear
when
you
ask
a
question:
please
be
respectful
and
also
to
get
as
many
questions
answered
as
possible.
We
also
kindly
ask
everyone
to
be
concise
and
ask
one
question
per
turn:
all
right.
A
Let's,
let's
dive
in
and
let's
start
with
the
introduction,
I'd
love
to
give
the
stage
or
I'd
love
to
invite
Salah
the
head
of
product
with
an
engineering
of
mina
Foundation
to
come
on
stage.
Oh
you're,
there
Salah
all
right.
B
B
Yeah
and
also
thank
you
to
all
the
community
members
attending
this
Discord
event
today.
So,
let's
start
with
this
question,
what
are
we
going
to
speak
about
here?
So
part
of
the
answer
is.
B
B
So
the
major
upgrade
of
Mina's
mainnet
means
that
a
new
major
version
of
the
protocol
will
be
released
and
deployed
to
the
mainnet
of
mina.
It
means
also
a
significant
and
substantial
Improvement
will
be
introduced
to
the
mainnet
and
that
will
bring
new
features
and
functionalities
to
Mina's
mainnet.
This
is
the
upgrade
we
are
speaking
about.
Let's
slide,
please.
B
Now
we
were
speaking
about
the
new
functionalities.
We
would
like
to
bring
to
the
mainnet.
More
specifically,
the
upgrade
will
bring
to
Mina's
mainnet
ZK
apps.
They
are
Mina
protocol,
smart
contracts
or
by
their
knowledge
proofs.
So
that's
the
first
major
functionality,
then
the
second
one
is
the
snarky
JS,
which
is
a
type
script
library
for
writing
ZK
programs
and
also
for
writing
Decay
smart
contracts
on
top
of
mina
protocol.
B
B
So
we
are
planning
to
bring
ZK
apps
and
snackages
to
minus
mainnet,
but
in
the
meantime
there
are
also
already
teams
built
in
on
the
testnet
version
of
ZK
apps
right
now
and
that's
through
through
ZK,
ignite
and
other
funded
projects.
So
this
upgrade
will
allow
them
to
deploy
their
already
developed
DK
apps
to
minus
mainnet
and
will
offer
them
all
the
power
of
real
production
environment.
But
it
will
also
be
a
concrete
example
for
other
organizations,
Founders
and
Builders
looking
to
build
products
with
zero
knowledge
proof
feature.
B
Consequently,
this
will
increase
the
activity
of
the
community
and
the
quantity
of
products
built
on
top
of
mina
protocol.
So
in
the
next
slides
you
will
see
the
the
power
of
the
Mina
ecosystem
and
what
has
been
built
so
far.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
attention
and
now
I
will
give
the
words
back
to
Christine.
A
Thank
you
so
much
Salah
for
setting
the
stage
for
us
yeah
very
excited
to
go
deeper
into
the
next
topics.
Next
up
we
have
Teddy.
Teddy
is
the
zkr
product
manager
at
Mina
foundation,
and
he
has
some
ecosystem
updates
to
share
with
us
hi
teddy.
C
Everyone
again,
hey
everyone,
I'm
Teddy
I,
want
to
share
four
key
topics
on
the
ecosystem,
two
of
which
are
standards
two
about
ecosystem
partners.
C
First,
one
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
attestation
standards,
as
I'm
sure
many
are
aware,
let's
form
the
foundation
of
many
interactions
with
blockchains,
at
least
between
DK
apps
and
wallets
as
well.
The
attestation
standards
working
groups
are
addressing
the
need
standardization
of
attestation
throughout
the
ecosystem,
to
better
enable
the
harnessing
really
the
harnessing
of
muno's
client-side
proving
strength.
Well,
some
of
you
are
wondering.
Well
what
is
attestation?
C
It's
not
a
complicated
topic
attestation,
in
particular,
is
about
enabling
wallets
that
store
verifiable
credentials
to
use
those
verifiable
credentials
to
perform
specific
operations
require
a
testing,
while
it's
verified
credentials
really
do
contain
claims
of
bias,
specific
issue,
it's
a
bit
of
a
mouthful
and,
of
course,
with
with
the
inclusion
of
zero
knowledge
proofs.
This
becomes
a
quite
interesting
area
of
note.
C
This
area
does
include
topics
like
accessing
specific
Zip,
app
features,
author
Lumina,
which
I'll
touch
on
in
a
minute,
transacting
on
a
kyc
compliance
decks
or
generally
put
satisfying
smart
contract
and
DK
program
constraints
by
testing
to
properties,
credentials
issued
to
the
wallet
and
so
into
the
future.
We
will
encourage
everyone
in
the
community
in
the
ecosystem
to
engage
with
the
working
group
in
the
discussion
that
they'll
be
bringing
to
the
Mina
Research
Forum
to
collaborate
to
collaboratively
refine
standard.
C
So
that's
one
one
interesting
area
slide,
please
Christine,
first
ecosystem
partner
that
I
wanted
to
touch
on
is
zika
and
I'm
sure
many
have
heard
about
zeko.
It
gives
some
background.
Deco
is
a
protocol
for
zoon
knowledge.
Compute
put
simply
it's
a
modular
stack
for
building
Roll-Ups
as
well
as
customized
app
trends,
recursively,
verify
and
compose
with
each
other.
Because
of
this
DK
zecco
presents
the
cat
Builders
opportunity
to
engineer
both
high
performance
and
low-cost
DK
apps
that
align
seamlessly
with
minus
layer
1.,
given
this
this
this
property
that
zeko
has
this.
C
This
isomorphic
property
two
minutes
layer,
one
that
every
application
being
built
on
Amina.
Now
everybody
building
with
Snappy
JS
can
also
use
zekko
right
away.
It
also
means
that
Decap
developers
can
use
zekko's
modular
stack
to
address
divisions
that
they're
building
in
the
ecosystem
in
the
near
future.
I
do
look
out
for
Community
calls
on
Deco
with
the
zeko
team,
don't
forget
to
read
their
white
paper
to
really
immerse
yourself,
zeko
itself.
C
Second,
ecosystem
partner
that
I
want
to
touch
on
is
Lumina
and
I
briefly
touched
on
on
this
topic
in.
In
that
attestation
slide
of
note,
luminous
light
paper
version,
0.7
is
now
available
and
what
Lumina
wool
you're
doing
is
they
are
harnessing
the
cryptographic
prowess
of
Muna
and
in
doing
so,
Lumina
is
building
this
kyc
compliant
Decks.
That
also
guarantees
comprehensive
trade.
C
Coming
phases
can
include
addressing
the
actual
implementations,
Concepts
and,
of
course,
collaboratively
refining
these
standards
as
a
community
where
we
can
have
vibrant
discussion
in
the
meaning
of
Research
Forum
provided
three
three
links
for
everyone's
reference,
one
of
which
is
the
fungible
looking
standard
repository
led
by
stove
Labs,
as
well
as
two
others
on
non-fungible
tokens.
The
first.
The
second
one
is
on
the
nft
interface.
C
There's
a
discussion
on
being
a
Research
Forum
about
that,
as
well
as
the
CK
ignite
nft
Studio
proposal,
looking
to
not
only
only
build
nft
standards
but
also
nft,
launch
pads
are
accessible
to
many
but
before
I
hand
over
to
Christine
I
wanted
to
invite
mate.
If
you
wanted
to
share
a
few
words
on
the
token
standard
that
he's
been
working
on,
that
is
linked
in
the
slide.
A
Thank
you
for
sharing
about
all
these
works
and
things
being
built,
I'm
sure
these
standards
will
unlock
many
new
possibilities.
Indeed,
I
think
mate
from
stove
Labs,
who
built
a
token
standard,
is
hearing
this
call
as
well.
But
hey.
Let
me
know
if
you
want
to
come
to
the
stage.
Otherwise,
you're
also
very
welcome
to
maybe
answer
questions.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
for
mate,
yeah
I
know
thanks
mate,
but
yeah
everyone,
the
Builder
behind
token
standard,
is
here.
A
D
Indeed,
hello,
everyone
I
would
like
to
make
a
quick
introduction
to
a
new
product
at
the
granola
has
been
working
on.
It's
called
Mina
indexer
and
it's
in
the
MVP
phase,
so
we
have
a
working
manual
minimum
viable
product
Christine
next
slide,
please
so
granola
is
also
behind
the
on-chain
voting
system
and
while
they
were
using
their
current
indexing
solutions,
they
found
the
needs
to
make
an
alternative,
a
system
where
they
can
adjust
to
their
needs.
So
the
MVP
of
mini
indexer
is
really
focusing
on
the
old
chain
voting.
D
Of
course
it
can
be
extended.
Also,
we
see
the
opportunity,
as
the
mini
protocol
delivers.
Ek
apps
and
smart
contract
capabilities
will
be
the
need
to
have
easy
onboarding
to
install
use
and
maintain
a
blockchain
indexer.
It
will
increase
significantly.
Of
course,
mainly.
It
should
be
very
straightforward
to
any
user
to
just
download
a
package
install
it
and
start
using
right
away.
D
So
the
main
users
that
this
product
is
built
for
is
really
anyone
that
requires
access
to
the
media
protocol.
Historical
data,
as
you
as
you
know,
Mina,
is
a
16
blockchain
and
in
order
to
have
the
historical
data
from
all
the
transactions
that
happened
in
the
past
needs
to
be
stored
elsewhere,
not
in
the
blockchain
itself,
but
elsewhere
in
a
backup
system,
all
the
transactions
that
happen
all
the
blocks.
D
So
it's
really
addressing
the
need
of
these
users.
Web
developers
lab
and
ZK
app
developers
reset
the
users
which
are
mainly
exchanges,
researchers
that
want
to
analyze
and
investigate
activity
and
the
usage
of
the
blockchain
and
also
service
providers.
D
Their
solution
is
really
focusing
on
the
next
feature,
so
they're
really
focusing
on
listen
to
install
and
maintain.
They
will
be
ingesting
pre-computed
blocks
from
any
Source.
At
the
moment
they
have
configured
all
ones,
Google,
Google,
buckets
so
or
one
maintains
a
Google
packet
with
all
the
packages
they
pre-computed
blocks
and
you
can
retrieve
from
there
continuously
following
the
chain
and
also
having
a
local
folder
where
you
can
download
or
having
your
own
Daemon
dumping.
D
All
the
blocks,
all
the
critical
blocks
towards
the
certain
designated
folder,
but
there
is
no
need
to
have
a
mini
demon
if
you
point
it
to
the
Google
bucket.
It
is
also
the
an
internal
database,
meaning
you
don't
need
to
install
any
further
additional
software.
It's
a
concealed
everything
inside
it
has
a
powerful
and
flexible
API.
D
We
also
think
Gareth
from
mean
Explorer
for
open
source
is
mini,
mini
Explorer
API,
so
mini
indexer
is
using
the
same
API
in
order
to
also
standardize
all
the
apis
in
the
ecosystem.
It
provides
a
real-time
access
to
the
best
tip
of
the
chain
can
recover
automatically
from
missing
blocks.
It
also
ensures
the
validity
and
completeness
of
the
data
it
produces.
D
It's
a
rest
in
a
developed
tool,
open
source.
You
can
visit
the
GitHub
repository
in
the
link
below
and
also
there
is
a
QR
code
directly
to
there.
D
We
believe
that
this
initiative
from
granola
will
really
allow
the
community
to
contribute
and
create
new
extensions
and
modules,
so
I
invite
everyone
to
have
a
look
at
the
repo,
read
the
documentation
and
contribute
if
you
are
a
rust
developer.
Thank
you.
So
much
back
to
you,
Christine.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Peter
for
sharing
this
update
about
Mina
indexer.
That's
that's
very
exciting
and
moving
on
to
the
next
section,
which
is
about
the
test.
World
Mission,
2.0
and
Mina's
mainnet
upgrade.
We
have
Salah
here
again
again,
the
head
of
product
and
Engineering
at
Mina
foundation
and
he's
going
to
first
walk
us
through
a
high
level
overview
of
the
road
to
this
next
upgrade.
B
Thank
you
again
Christine.
So
let's
talk
about
what
has
been
done
so
far
and
what
are
what
are
we
doing
to
make
sure
that
we
already
released
the
upgrade
to
minutes
mainnet
and
Christian?
Could
you
scroll
back
to
the
previous
slide
yeah,
so
the
first
step
is
mainly
having
a
test
program
in
the
test
environment
where
the
upgrade
can
be
tested
before
to
be
released.
That's
like
a
mandatory
phase.
In
our
case,
it's
that
program
and
that
test
environment
is
called
test.
Word
Mission
2.0.
B
We
will
probably
hear
a
few
colleagues
here
speaking
about
ITN,
which
is
incentivized
testnet
yeah,
so
don't
be
surprised,
while
speaking
about
the
same
thing
next
slide,
please
Christine
yeah,.
C
B
That's
what
mission
2.0
is
an
extensive
test
program
and
environment
divided
into
four
tracks,
so
the
track
number
one
is
mainly
testing
ZK
app
and
to
end,
and
the
purpose
here
is
mainly
to
work
with
the
community
members
to
validate
that
ZK
apps
is
working
well
and
to
end.
Then
there
you
have
the
second
track,
which
is
external
security
auditing.
B
This
is
already
in
progress,
and
the
results
are
very
good
so
far,
especially
with
the
internal
test
clusters
we
created
so
far,
then
the
last
track
is
mainly
doing
the
latest
preparation
steps
ahead
of
the
mainnet
upgrade
so
the
as
per
now.
The
overall
results
are
excellent,
so
the
number
of
open
bugs
have
been
reduced
to
a
minimum,
and
then
the
test
coverage
has
been
significantly
improved.
B
So
in
this
slide
in
the
bottom,
you
will
see
Berkeley
code
so
for
the
ones
who
are
not
familiar
with
this
naming
so
Berkeley
in
GitHub
is
mainly
the
branch
who
are
using
yeah.
So
it's
a
GitHub
Branch,
where
latest
developments
ahead
of
minute
upgrade
are
done.
So
this
is
about
this
slide.
So
thank
you
again
for
your
attention
back
to
you,
Christine.
A
Thanks
so
much
Salah
for
sharing
on
a
high
level,
what
kind
of
elements
go
into
our
road
to
the
next
larger
milestones?
I
think
this
is
a
really
helpful
high-level
overview
of
the
work.
A
Next
up,
we
have
random
case
from
01
the
founding
engineer
and
CTO
of
Owen
Labs
he's
going
to
give
us
a
deeper
dive
into
the
work.
That's
been
going
on
into
this
road
to
Venus
major
upgrade
hi
Brandon,
hello,.
E
Let's
jump
in
yeah,
so
I
yeah
I
want
to
cover
just
like.
What's
what
all
the
stuff
has
been
going
on
since
mainnet,
or
at
least
the
fraction
of
it
that
I
recalled
When
I
Was
preparing
these
slides
from
the
perspective
of
all
one
laps,
so
yeah
go
ahead,
Christine,
so
yeah!
E
So
so
as
I
was
thinking
about
it,
I
kind
of
broke
down
the
work
into
four
key
components
and
I
want
to
talk
about
each
of
them
separately,
and
you
know,
ask
a
bunch
of
questions
at
the
end
and
then
we
can
go
into
details
so
the
first
chunk
the
the
proof
system,
so
next
slide.
E
Okay,
so
so,
basically,
on
the
cryptography
side,
we
adapted
the
pickles
recursion
layer
or
a
new
to
a
new
back
end.
This,
like
new
kimchi
backend,
which
is
plonk
based
and
there's
all
these
buzzwords
you
can
use
in
ZK
and-
and
it
has
this
cool
feature
like
the
thing
that
I
like
to
focus
on
is
the
universality.
E
So
this
isn't
the
notion
that
you
can
recursively
verify
proofs
from
a
ZK
circuit.
That's
four
into
the
one
that
you're
that
you're
within
I
guess.
So
you
can
imagine
I
mean
this
is
important
for
ZK
smart
contracts,
because
you
can
imagine
firmina.
The
way
it
works
is
we're
recursively
proving
blocks
and
we're
recursively
proving
transactions,
but
in
order
to
recursively
prove
other
people's
logic.
E
We
need
this
universality
so
and
then,
and
then
beyond
that,
there's
just
a
bunch
of
interesting
things
like
custom
gates
for
accelerating
certain
operations
which,
like
in
a
mix
of
really
low
level
operations
like
bit
wise,
ands
and
ores,
all
the
way
up
to
high
level
operations
like
ethereum,
manipulating,
ethereum,
hashes
and
and
then
there's
in
progress
support
for
a
ZK
VM
with
with
the
mips
architecture
which-
and
you
know
that
that
work
can
be
adapted
to
other,
like
traditional
CPU
architectures
as
well.
E
So
I'm
really
excited
to
see
that
eventually,
okay
next
slide
yeah,
so
the
the
actual
z
cap
transaction
logic,
which
is
a
full
implementation
of
the
MIP
that
was
shared
a
few
months
ago.
I
think
so.
E
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
people
are
familiar
with
it,
but
just
a
few
interesting
parts
that
jump
out
for
me.
There's
an
interesting
Action
System
for
resolving
off-chain
concurrent
updates.
E
You
can
compose
contract
calls
which
is
really
complicated
in
in
the
ZK
context
and
off-chain
compute
context,
and
the
really
interesting
thing
is
the
the
logic
for
dealing
with
custom
tokens
reuses
the
same
parts
of
the
ZK
Logic
for
calling
contracts,
so
this
just
makes
the
whole
system
faster
and
but
but
by
being
able
to
reuse
that
and
then
there's
a
really
fine-grained
permissioning
system,
which
allows
updates
to
individual
properties
of
accounts
on
chain
in
you
know
particular
ways,
including
kind
of
typical
antsy.
E
These
days,
like
account
abstraction
idea
where
smart
contracts
can
control
other
accounts,
they
can
even
control
their
accounts,
abilities
to
upgrade
themselves
and
all
these
interesting
things
that
we're
excited
to
see
what
people
do
with
them.
Next
slide
so
yeah.
So
so,
in
addition
to
actually
like
implementing
the
logic
as
described,
there
was
actually
a
lot
of
work,
a
lot
of
work
to
support
those
changes
in
other
parts
of
the
protocol.
E
So-
and
this
is
just
a
selection
of
things-
one
there's
an
implementation
of
a
more
sophisticated
gossip
protocol
that
or
a
feature
of
Lupita
P,
which
is
part
of
the
the
peer-to-peer
Network,
and
this
is
all
the
bits
that
are
needed
to
enable
this
in
a
soft
Fork
are
in
place
so,
but
it
won't
be
enabled
right
at
the
initial
upgrade
and
yeah.
E
The
accounts
of
the
zcaps
are
larger
because
they
have
all
these
interesting
features
and
transactions
are
larger
because
they
can
do
all
these
things,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
a
lot
of
Downstream
effects
to
that.
So
just
a
few
of
them,
Ledger
thinking
mechanisms
had
to
be
upgraded
and
and
then
and
catch
up
and
boost
rapid,
a
lot
of
other
systems
which
there's
a
few
protocol
engineers
in
here
who
can
dig
into
more
details
as
well.
E
If
people
have
questions,
there's
an
interesting
like
two
pass
application
system,
that's
needed
to
bypass
a
kind
of
an
attack
that
you
would
have
been
able
to
perform,
which-
and
this
is
described
in
the
myth
and
then
just
like
from
a
code
organization
perspective.
You
know,
and
you
can
go
look
at
the
code
on
GitHub,
the
the
transaction
logic
subsystem
is
abstracted
over
like
the
notion
of
being
in
and
out
of
the
the
ZK
proving
circuit.
E
So
what's
cool
about
this
is
like
the
logic
is
described
once
and
and
that
way
you
know,
it's
less
likely
that
there's
a
difference
between
what
happens
in
and
out
of
a
circuit
and
those
kinds
of
Errors
can
cause
chain
halts
so
and
that
logic
is
extremely
nuancine
complex,
because
Z
caps
are
really
powerful.
Okay
next
slide
might
be
going
too
slow,
so
I'm
gonna
speed
it
up
yeah.
E
So
then
there's
snarky
JS,
which
is
the
front
end
for
actually
creating
these
CK
apps
and
there's
tons
of
documentation
and
tutorial
series
about
this.
So
I
won't
talk
about
it
too
much.
One
interesting
part
that
I,
don't
think
has
been
talked
about.
Much
is
there's
a
really
interesting
sort
of
layer
of
Bindings
that
has
to
be
in
place,
so
so
snarky
JS
is
in
typescript
and
Mina
is
mostly
an
O
camel
and
then
the
cryptography
layer
is
mostly
in
Rust,
so
the
rust
is
compiled
to
webassembly.
E
The
ocml
is
compiled
to
JavaScript
and
then
typescript
kind
of
interacts
with
all
of
them,
and
this
is
this
is
actively
being
be
factored
to
to
increase
performance,
and
some
of
these
changes
have
been
starting
to
land.
E
So
I,
don't
know
if
you've,
if
you've
seen
them
notice
them
or
saw
on
GitHub
the
activity,
but
a
lot
of
performance
things
in
the
pipeline
loading
time
improvements,
the
speed
of
which
things
can
execute
out
of
circuits,
as
well
as
proving
proving
things
and
then
yeah
and
there's
and
there's
some
experiments
that
we're
starting
with
with
web
GPU
as
well,
okay
and
then
yeah,
so
so,
obviously
the
whole
time.
E
You
know
one
labs
and
Mina
foundation
and
and
other
ecosystem
Partners,
you
know,
have
been
working
towards
this
upgrade.
But
in
order
to
sort
of
better
cohesion
across
the
groups,
a
focused
working
group
was
formed.
A
few
months
ago
and
I
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
E
Oh
basically,
there's
a
series
of
asks
to
do.
You
can
see
it's
like
I,
don't
know
what
percentage
that
is.
I
can't
do
the
math
in
my
head.
E
What's
the
80
and
just
to
give
a
few
examples
of
things
and
there's
links
in
these
slides,
but
so
one
there's
there's
a
formal
run
book
of
sort
of
what
needs
to
work
before
we
can
unlock
the
incentivized
portion
of
the
test
net
because,
obviously,
if
there's,
if
there's
bugs
that
we
know
about
I,
think
we
should
fix
them
first
right.
E
So,
for
example,
you
know
we
want
a
network
that
runs
with
a
lot
of
accounts
and
largely
cap
transactions,
and
even
if
nodes
are
kicked
offline,
the
network
stays
live
and
runs
in
a
healthy
way.
So
what
one
of
the
blockers
to
this
has
been
a
series
of
long
async
Cycles,
which
which
are
errors
that
occur
when
the
the
Run
Loop
of
O
camel
gets
stuck
on
doing
something
slow,
so
it
could
be
doing
IO
or
cryptography
so
and
anyway,
I'm
going
too
slow
yeah.
E
So,
there's
audits
of
all
the
logic
and
and
Bug
fixes
for
the
things
that
came
out
of
it
next
and
yeah
anyway,
a
lot
more
stuff
for
things
that
are
in
progress,
there's
like
finishing
the
Run
book
and
that
also
is
80
plus
maybe
90
through
for
the
next
SL,
the
next
chunk
there
and
then
the
we
want
to
finalize
like
proposal,
at
least
for
a
sort
of
the
exact
mechanism
by
which
the
network
could
be
upgraded
in
the
event
that
it
is,
you
know,
voted
in
by
the
community
and
and
those
those
pieces.
E
Both
the
technical
portions
and
non-technical
portions,
you
know
should
be
tested
during
the
incentive
assessment
like
with
the
with
the
community,
so
that's
sort
of
in
progress
next
one
and
then
yeah
and
then
also
like
all
the
monitoring
that
needs
to
get
in
place
for
to
make
sure
that
we
know
when
bugs
are
happening
and
that's
like
very
straightforward
and
mostly
done
as
well.
E
Next
slide
so
yeah.
So
there's
also
like
things
that
we
need
for
the
actual
upgrade
when
it
when
the
the
test
net
is.
You
know
when
the
incentivized
testnet
part
has
started
so
just
to
give
some
examples,
yeah
doing
the
upgrade
monitoring
bugs
I
I,
don't
remember.
Maybe
these
are
too
boring,
I,
don't
remember
what
I
said:
yeah
and
then
emergency
Archway
plans,
okay,
yeah.
E
We
can
keep
going
and
then
things
for
later
yeah
enabling
good
stuff
like
I
mentioned
and
and
then
a
really
big
important
one,
and
hopefully
this
is
the
first
start
of
it.
But
education
on
how
the
protocol
Works
and
that
the
form
of
which
you
know
is
needs
to
be
multifaceted.
E
Like
videos,
documentation,
explanations,
literal
teaching,
people
sitting
in
a
room
with
each
other
and
talking
and
explaining
and
onboarding
and
pair
coding,
and
all
these
things
and
that's
not
just
for
for
the
community
and
like
the
broader
community
and
also
different
parts
of
our
teams
within
the
ecosystem.
A
A
That
was
very
helpful
to
show
more
about
what
exactly
what
the
progress
exactly
is
that
we're
making
what
exactly
we're
working
on
or
the
working
group
is
working
on
so
yeah
thanks
so
much
Brandon.
Hopefully
that
was
also
insightful
for
folks
in
the
community,
and
now
we've
arrived
at
the
Q
a
part
of
this
event.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
enough
time
to
address
any
questions
from
the
community.
A
Let's
see
I'm
sure
we
will.
We
probably
have
some
questions
in
a
chat.
I.
Also
wonder
whether
there
are
people
who
want
to
come
on
stage
to
ask
their
questions.
A
Yeah
I
see
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
date.
I
am
I
totally
understand
that
everyone
is
really
excited
about
it.
It's
it's
very
hard
to
give
any
estimation
at
this
point
as
Salah
and
Brandon
have
touched
on
as
well.
This
is
a
huge
or
major
upgrade
for
mina
that
we're
working
towards
we're
working
with
very
novel
Technologies
and
we're
treading
into
new
territories.
A
A
Yeah,
sorry,
that
I
cannot
that
I
don't
have
a
an
estimation,
but
hopefully
sharing
this
entire
process
more
details
around
the
work
that
goes
into.
It
still
helps
providing
some
insights
into
where
we
are
in
the
process.
A
A
A
E
For
it,
Brandon
EV
asks.
E
Is
is
the
is
the
hard
is
the
hard
Fork
upgrade
gonna
bring
a
higher
block
production
rate
because
they
say
because,
like
ccaps,
might
need
a
higher
TPS.
That's
like
that
Okay.
E
So
we
have
been
very
focused
on
building
the
system
with
with
all
the
features
and
sort
of
getting
it
sort
of
stable
on
all
these
things
and
performance
at
the
L1
layer
at
the
the
Mina
L1
layer,
it's
quite
hard
to
iterate
on
having
said
that,
like
there's
a
lot
of
little
things
in
the
pipeline
that
it
will,
you
know
it
will
always
be
improving.
E
I
can
say,
like
performance
has
improved
a
lot
since
like
compared
to
the
main
version,
but
also
ZK
apps
has
caused
things
to
be
slower,
so
they
kind
of
you
know
they
fight
against
each
other,
those
those
two
pieces.
What
I?
What
I?
What
is
my
opinion
and
I?
Think
I
should
be
careful
who
I
speak
on
behalf
of
because
I
don't
I,
don't
know,
but
I'll
tell
you
my
opinion,
which
is
zico
or
other
other
l2s
like
zico,
that
provide
like
Amina
isomorphic.
E
Experience
is
a
great
way
to
like
tap
into
like
sort
of
higher
performance
environment
while
we're
waiting
for
the
L1
to
catch
up
because
because
l2s
they
don't
need
to.
F
E
A
A
E
I
can
I
can
try
and
answer
it
yeah
if
I
understand
right
so
zico.
F
E
Provide
a
like
a
one-to-one
like
Mina,
compatible
layer
in
in
its
initial
release,
or
at
least
that
is
the
plan
that
I
I'm,
aware
of
and
I.
I
am
not
a
member
of
that
organization,
but
I
am
sort
of
helping
part
of
the
work
and
and-
and
there
are
there's
you
know-
there's
a
smart
contract
on
the
L1
and
a
smart
contract
on
the
L2.
That
kind
of
talk
to
each
other
to
transfer
funds
between
the
between
them,
but
the
yeah.
E
So
the
the
and
just
so
people
know
like
the
way
it
works
is
literally
like
the
ZK
app
logic
as
written
in
the
in
the
Mina
L1
code
base
is
cross-compiled
or
kind
of
like
surgery
was
done
to
kind
of
like
lift
that
out
and
stick
it
inside
the
L2.
So
it's
the
exact
same
logic
and
that's
why
the
decaps
kind
of
work
in
both
places
and
because
of
the
kind
of
interesting
recursive
nature
of
Mina
you
can.
A
Thanks
Brandon
I
hope
that
answers
your
question
and
Ray.
Next
one
is
mate:
mate
I
know
that
I
skipped
your
first
question
but
I'm
pretty
sure
you're
trying
to
troll
me
with
your
first
question.
So
go
to
your
second
question:
what
is
the
unproven
and
proven
TBS
for
the
hard
Fork
protocol.
E
I
can
take
that
too.
Yes,
it
is.
A
E
Okay,
okay,
then
I'll
just
keep
talking
yes
yeah,
so
the
I
think
like
throughput,
will
be
similar
to
mainnet
I
mean
I.
Guess,
like
I
suspect
that,
from
from
what
I've
seen
like
the
the
block,
fill
rate
is
better
like
there's,
there's
sort
of
sometimes
there's
issues
on
mainnet
where
like
blocks
there
is
pending
transactions,
but
blocks
aren't
fully
filled.
That's
that'll
be
gone,
so
it'll
be
faster
than
mainnet,
but
not
like
not
significantly
in
in
this
initial
release
that
helps
I.
A
Oh
sorry,
if
I
caught
some
Jitter
I'll
make
sure
to
mute
myself
when
the
next
person
talks
going
to
the
next
question,
that's
from
West
Side
Story.
What
are
some
ways
to
participate
in
a
test?
World
2.0
as
a
community
member
I'd
like
I,
think
John
could
be
a
great
person
to
help
me
answer
this
question.
John
can
I
invite
you
to
the
stage
oh
cool
you're
there,
foreign.
G
Thanks
Christine
thanks
West
Side
Story
for
the
question:
yeah,
that's
a
great
one.
So,
as
you
know,
we've
been
preparing
for
the
testing
that
for
quite
a
while
now
and
we've
selected
people
to
participate,
it
does
look
like
there
will
be
some
other
slots
opening
up
and
we
will
be
putting
out
some
announcements
to
fill
those
up
and
just
for
everyone's
context.
G
Here,
too,
we
will
be
reaching
out
to
everyone
well
in
advance
of
the
test
net,
just
to
reconfirm
everyone's
details
and
whether
they're
able
to
participate
and
those
are
for
the
people
that
we're
selecting
or
that
are
being
selected.
But
actually
anyone
could
participate
by
running
notes
on
the
test
net.
It
will
be
open,
so
there
will
be
further
information
coming
out
about
that
and
I
can
take
a
shot
at
the
next
part
of
the
question.
West
Side
Story
world
approved
mips
be
rolled
out
alongside
the
upcoming
artwork.
G
Can
this
might
answer
a
few
of
your
earlier
questions
about
supercharge
rewards
and
the
three
myths
that
have
been
voted
on,
which
are
nip
one
thanks?
A
lot
for
that
Gareth?
That
was
the
nip
to
remove
supercharger
rewards
that
will
be
included
in
the
upgrade,
and
so
yes,
that
wouldn't
be
included,
and
also
the
three
and
four
mips
will
also
be
included
in
the
upgrade,
and
those
relate
to
actually
some
of
the
details
that
Brandon
talked
about
so
yeah.
That's
that's
about
it!
For
me,.
A
Thanks
so
much
John,
it
was
so
helpful
hope
that
answers
your
question.
West
Side
Story,
let's
move
on
since
it
seems
like
the
questions
keep
coming
in,
which
is
great.
That's
why
we're
here
Beacon
chain
he's
asking,
will
zcaps
be
run
on
the
L2,
build
on
top
of
Mino.
E
E
An
any
sort
of
official
altitude
there's
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
interesting,
ltus
and
I.
Think
there's
people
in
this
room
are
working
on
L2
like
things
if,
if
they
want
to
share
in
the
chat
but
yeah
for
zeko
ZK
apps,
like
will
work
out
of
the
box,
the
same
ZK
apps
that
you
target
Mina
with
you
can
Target
as
Echo.
A
All
right,
thank
you
thanks
again,
Brendan
I
want
to
know
what
to
do.
Without
giving
this
call,
then
we
have
the
next
question
from
f-stick
Neve.
It's
a
question
directed
at
Brendan.
He
said.
E
They
said
it's
the
same.
One.
A
Okay
gotcha,
then
we
got
that
one
as
well
awesome,
West,
Side
Story
is
asking:
are
you
guys
going
to
have
a
presence
in
token
2049
Singapore.
A
Do
we
have?
Maybe
we
have
fluency
here
who
might
know?
F
Hi
we
will
not
have
a
physical
presence
there,
but
there
will
be
community
members
on
the
ground
and
might
self-organize
a
community
event
on
site.
So
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
our
team
on
Discord.
If
you
want
to
contribute
or
be
a
part
of
that,
but
as
of
now
we
won't
be
won't,
be
attending.
A
And
thanks
for
unplanned
all
right,
the
next
one
that
I
see
in
a
chat
is
Beacon
chain.
Will
the
L2
of
mina
support
solidity.
E
I
do
not
know
of
an
L2
that
anyone
is
developing
or
Mina
that
supports
solidity.
At
this
moment,
that
doesn't
mean
they
don't
exist.
A
Gotcha
thanks,
Brendan
and
sebs
is
asking:
does
zeko
equal
to
L2,
build
on
Mina,
Alvine,
okay,
I
think
we
we
already
talked
about
this
and
let's
move
on
more
questions.
So
many
questions
are
there
any
other
L2
Frameworks
being
developed?
Currently.
E
The
author
of
that
comment
is
working
on
one
yeah,
either
mate
or
or
Raphael.
If
you
want
to.
If
you
want
to
come
up
and
like
talk
about
it
for
like
two
minutes,
I
think.
A
I
think
that
would
be.
It
would
be
really
interesting
to
hear
more
from
from
you
about
what
you're
building
yeah.
H
You
hear
me
well,
yeah
sure
hi,
so
yeah
I
mean
we've
been
asking
like
if
there's
any
other
Frameworks
being
built,
and
the
answer
to
that
is
yes,
I
mean
we
are
building
one
ourselves.
H
So
the
name
is
protocol.
It's
basically
like
a
framework
for
for
building
L
Tools
in
a
similar
fashionist
substrate.
It's
a
little
different
experience
to
developing
Z
caps.
You
basically
have
server
side
or
note
side
execution.
So
not
all
of
the
code
runs
on
the
client
side,
but
it
can.
If
you
wanted
to
the
motivation
behind
building
a
custom.
Zkvm
different
from
zcaps
stand,
basically
from
our
experience
of
building
ccaps
and
some
of
the
engineering
challenges
that
we
were
not
being
able
to
overcome
ourselves
using
the
Caps.
H
So
we
have
built
a
custom
zkbm
that
uses
stock.js
and
kimchi
to
basically
power
any
l2s
that
you
build
with
our
framework.
It's
already
live
at
open
source,
so
for
anyone
who
wants
to
like
give
it
a
try
play
around
with
it
and
write
some
business
logic
and
runtime
modules.
Etc
I've
posted
a
link
into
into
the
chat
and
feel
free
to
give
it
a
go,
and
let
me
know
how
it
goes.
If
you
run
into
any
issues,
we'll
fix
them
right
away.
E
H
Sure
sure,
so
the
way
that
I
would
put
it
is
that
anything
that
you've
been
able
to
build
on
ethereum
or
on
substrate
bull
code
kusama.
You
should
be
able
to
build
a
product
bit
and
the
logic
should
pretty
much
translate
one
to
one.
H
So
the
learning
curve
should
be
should
be
minimal
for
you
to
Port
these
apps
from
evm
to
protocit,
with
Z
caps
I.
Believe
it's
a
little
bit
different,
because
the
execution
model
is
entirely
different.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
learning
curve
with
protocol.
This
learning
curve
hopefully
gets
smaller
and
smaller,
so
anything
from
D5
through
basically
anything
that
you've
seen
on
ethereum.
You
can
build
either
with
decaps
or
with
product
kits.
A
Super
exciting
thanks
so
much
for
sharing
a
bit
about
what
you're
working
on
I
see
that
you
shared
the
link
to
Proto
kit
in
the
chat
as
well
yeah.
Maybe
we
can
edit
to
the
deck
before
we
share
it
publicly.
So
people
who
are
watching
this
recording
later
or
looking
at
the
deck
can
also
find
it
easily
yeah
thanks
so
much
mate
and.
E
Then
you
just
add
in
I
think
there
are
there
I
think
there
are
other
teams
also
building
L2
Frameworks
and
you
can
check
on
ZK
ignite
I,
don't
actually
know
any
other
ones
by
no
protocol.
A
Awesome
yeah,
thanks
for
sharing
that
I
see
that
see
that
will
is
typing
will
is
leading
the
zika
ignite
program
just
curious
if
he
watching
the
chat
and
curious.
If
he's
going
to
share
more
projects.
A
Oh
interesting,
that's
very
interesting,
we'll
just
share
the
link
in
a
chat
and
member
co-star
and
comdex
have
built
economics
Network
just
going
to
like
quickly
check
if
they
might
be
here,
it's
a
bit
unexpected,
but
if
they
wind
I'd
love
to
invite
them,
I
don't
see
them
in
the
chat.
But
perhaps
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
ask
them
next
time
to
share
something
cool
all
right.
Thanks
for
sharing
that
will,
let's
move
on
with
the
questions.
I
think
we
still
have
a
lot
to
go
through.
D
Is
one
you
skipped
in
the
in
the
top
I
would
like
to
address?
Oh
it's
from
Emory
NOP
he's
asking.
Can
we
use
granola
graph
API
when
mean
exporter
shutdown
API?
Will
it
be
the
same
data
structure?
So
what
granola
did
was
build
their
endpoints
using
the
exact
same
API
that
is
used
in
Min
Explorer
with
that
said,
only
the
endpoints
that
are
required
to
support
the
chain
voting
use
case
and
a
little
bit
more
was
implemented
so
far,
so
we
have
a
subset
of
the
endpoints
that
are
available
at
the
moment,
but.
D
Yeah
have
the
entire
set
of
apis
and
even
support
Berkeley,
so
I
welcome
everyone
to
support
the
project.
If
you
want
is
an
open
source
project
and
really
we
need
you
guys
to
yeah,
enhance
this
product.
I
think.
A
All
right
and
I'll
keep
moving
down.
If
I
missed
your
question,
please
feel
free
to
ask
it
again.
That
will
help
me
a
little
bit
of
Fielding
new
questions.
The
next
one
is
Nick.
Nick
is
asking
Mina
version.
1.4.0
was
released
yesterday
to
stable.
A
A
Are
they
I
saw
like
other
folks
in
the
audience,
as
well
from
our
ecosystem
partner
side?
Any.
E
I
can
give
me
two
minutes
and
I'll.
Have
a
I'll
have
an
answer
all.
A
Right
in
that
case,
let
me
let
me
go
to
the
next
question
and
then
we
can
go
come
back
to
this
afterwards.
A
Embry
is
asking
for
mina
indexer.
Can
we
use?
Oh
sorry,
I
think
this
is
the
one
that
Vitor
just
answered
right,
I
think
so,
but
let
me
know
if
that's
not
true
all
right,
but
thank
you
for
asking
again
I'm
just
going
through
this
list.
A
D
A
Oh
okay,
all
right!
Sorry
for
breaking
up.
G
It
sounds
like
Christine's
cutting
out
there,
but
I
might
be
able
to
this
answer
this.
One
too
I've
responded
a
bit
in
the
chatting
team,
and
this
is
actually
the
call
for
tokenomics,
but
in
there's
been
quite
a
few
discussions
about
this
and
I'll
just
post
a
link
in
the
chat
now
to
the
there's
quite
a
bit
of
information
on
Mina
research
there
and
it's
also
a
really
good
place
to
discuss
it.
G
A
Foreign,
can
you
still
hear
me:
okay,
awesome
thanks
so
much
John
for
jumping
in.
Hopefully
you
can
hear
me
now
but
yeah
that
that
is
that's
a
great
suggestion.
A
Yeah
very,
very
valid,
worry,
mtn33
and
I
agree
with
John.
Mina
research
could
be
a
great
place
for
these
kind
of
discussions.
A
I
want
to
also
go
back
to
Nick's
question.
If
Brendan
do
you
feel,
do
you
feel
you've
had
the
time
to
collect
some.
E
Yeah
well
yeah
yeah,
I'm,
getting
I'm
getting
real-time
feedback
and
slack,
and
the
person
who's
messaging
me
feel
free
to
invite
yourself
to
the
stage
but
I'm
happy
to
say
it
for
you
as
well,
because
that
person
was
in
the
room.
But.
E
But
I
did
not
get
a
message
so
I
think.
Oh
you
don't
know
how
to
join
the
stage.
It's
Nathan
there's
a
button
on
the
bottom.
For
you
to
raise
your
hand
there
you
go
now.
You
should
be
able
to
press
another
button
below
there
and
join.
A
All
right
so,
while
Nathan
is
chatting
the
answer,
I'm
also
scrolling
through
the
chat,
because
I
think
we're
on
time.
A
A
A
I
saw
so
many
members
who
are
from
all
over
the
world
I'm
sure
this
time
works
well
for
some,
and
not
so
well
for
others,
but
yeah.
Thank
you
still
for
joining.
Hopefully,
if
it
was
helpful,
I
would
love
for
people
who
attended,
and
even
people
who
are
watching
the
recording
soon
after
this
call,
please
help
us
improve
the
next
Community
event.
Like
this
on
a
screen,
you
see
a
link
to
a
survey
and
there's
a
QR
code.
A
It's
it
just
takes
one
to
two
minutes
to
fill
it
out
and
if
you'd
like
to
keep
up
to
date
about
the
progress
that's
being
made
in
Mina's
ecosystem
things
that
are
being
built.
A
Please
keep
an
eye
on
the
announcement
channel
on
Discord
and
there's
also
actually
another
interesting
event
coming
up.
There
are
there's
been
many
projects
that
have
been
built
as
part
of
the
Z
cake
night
program
and
there's
a
demo
day
coming
up,
maybe
we'll.
If
you're
there
could
you
maybe
share
a
little
bit
or
maybe
you
can
share
a
little
bit
what
those
demos
days
are
when
they
are
going
to
take
place
and
what
people
will
be
able
to
learn.
A
A
All
right!
Well,
thanks
everyone
so
much
for
joining.
Hopefully
this
was
helpful
to
share
like
all
the
work,
the
process,
the
process,
that's
involved
in
the
road
to
the
next
upcoming
major
upgrade
and
also
where
we
roughly
are
in
the
process
thanks
so
much
for
joining,
we'll
share
this
call
and
also
to
deck
afterwards
thanks
everyone
and
see
you
next
time.