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A
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
yesterday
we
had
an
interesting
discussion
about
nft
standards,
its
relevance
to
the
ecosystem
and
some
progress.
That's
already
happening
in
this
area
today.
Luckily,
we've
got
prajwal
with
us
to
talk
about
his
proposal
in
zukek
Knight
and
how
that's
how
that's
relevant
to
him
so
project?
Can
you
give
us
an
introduction
to
yourself
and
and
your
your
proposal.
C
There
can
be
composable
nfts
like
and
each
and
if
you
can
have
multiple
different
assets,
so
different
form
of
nfts,
so
I've
been
a
bit
familiar
with
energy
space
and
how
it's
kind
of
evolution,
it's
evolution
so
further
further
proposal
for
mina
we
initially
wanted
to
do
nft
marketplates.
We
wanted
to
do
that.
But
given
there
is
there
isn't
any
nft
standard
on
Mina.
So
what
we
focused
was
instead
of
going
for
the
marketplace,
maybe
first
try
to
bring
bring
nfp's
sufficiently
in
the
ecosystem.
C
So
allow
anyone
to
be
able
to
create
nfts,
and
once
we
have
sufficient
nfts
and
also
a
standard
that
people
are
familiar
with,
then
we
can
maybe
create
a
nft
Marketplace
next.
So
that's
what
our
proposal
is
about
that
creating
a
application
that
allows
anyone
with
no
coding
experience
to
just
come
in
and
launch
their
own
nft
collection.
B
Awesome
I
think
you,
you
raised
a
lot
of
really
interesting
points
specifically
about
this
was
mentioned
yesterday
to
about
the
relevance
of
having
a
launch
pad
of
sorts
in
the
ecosystem,
to
help
give
that
accessibility
to
creators,
artists,
our
collectors,
Gamers
and
so
forth,
so
I
think
you're
touching
on
a
lot
of
really
interesting
topics.
Maybe
you
could
delve
a
little
more
into
your
perspective
and
your
opinions
on
nfts
on
Mina
and
the
challenges
that
you
face
and
have
started
to
outline
in
your
proposal.
C
Yeah
so
initially,
when
we,
let
me
just
walk
through
like
how
I
came
about
the
energy
different
ways
that
I
learned
about
Mila.
So
when
I
first
started
out
the
first
issue
that
I
faced
was
the
data
availability
like
there
can
be
only
eight
states
on
Mina,
so
so
what
I
did
was
at
first,
we
started
a
community
discussion
about
how
that
is
being
addressed
like
how
that
can
be
trust
upon.
We
talk
about
like
various
ways
how
that
might
be
done.
C
So
that
was
our
first
discussion
as
we
dived
a
little
further.
We
as
I
did
a
little
further.
We
understood
about
the
custom
tokens
and
found
that
really
interesting.
So
we
started
another
discussion
around
how
custom
tokens
might
be
able
to
bring
nfus
and
during
that
discussion
is
Where
We
Came
Upon,
using
like
the
something
similar
to
map
7
to
anyone
that
live
wonderfully
explained.
Yesterday
and
now
at
this
point
like
we
have
identified
three
major
ways
on
how
nfts
might
be
implemented.
C
So
the
nft
standard
I
strongly
believe
that
it
should
be
similar
to
the
one
people
are
used
to
like
the
evm
one
where
there
is
transfer
from
transfer
and
all
those
events
that
Lee
have
mentioned
yesterday.
So
with
that
in
mind,
we
have
like
thought
about
like
three
different
ways:
it
might
be
implemented.
So
the
first
way
is
using
opt-in
data
availability
layer
so,
and
there
has
also
been
some
more
progress.
That's
been
made
from
the
community,
so
I
recently
heard
about
like
a
project.
C
That's
used
Celestia
as
the
data
availability
layer
for
main
applications,
so
that
is
interesting.
That
is
something
we
would
like
to
explore.
Also
like
your
gkfs
out
there.
That's
also
us
doing
some
work
in
data
availability
of
space,
so
there
is
one
way
to
implement
nfts.
The
other
way
we
found
and
leaf
like
explained
again
yesterday,
was
using
custom
tokens
so
for
its
diff
it's
struck.
Each
nft
will
be
its
own
contract
and
since
it's
our
own
contract
it
can
have
different
states.
C
So
let's
say
we
are
creating
a
collection
of
thousand
nfts,
so
it
will
have
1000
different
nfts
different
contracts
for
each
nft,
and
then
one
collection,
one
any
one
contract
to
manage
the
all
the
nfts
like
the
collection
contract.
So
that
is
something
and
that
is
like
been
very
well
written
by
Liam
in
his
standard
proposal,
and
the
third
thing
that
we
are
also
exploring
is
how
how
the
events
and
accents
can
be
used
to
create
entities.
This
is
something
that
Gregor
suggested
and
we're
looking
into
it.
C
Like
for
talking
about
like
custom
token
route,
and
one
also
like
it
was
discussed
yesterday
like,
we
need
to
pay
one
Meena
for
each
its
smart
contracts
as
deployed,
so
that
is
that
bears
use
cost
on
like
user
and
how
everything
is
held.
So
we
want
to
analyze
all
different
aspects
that
can
be
most
efficient
for
nft
that
belongs
to
our
platform.
B
Awesome
I
think
yesterday's
discussion
was
really
fantastic
about
highlighting
the
need
for
a
standard
and
how
it
can
be
used
across
the
ecosystem
for
many
different
use.
Cases
and
I
think
the
The
Proposal
that
you're
putting
forward
is
really
interesting
because
it
encompasses
an
end-to-end
case
of
utilizing.
D
C
So
we
allow
every
different
aspect
on
which
that
can
be
possible
and
just
allow
leave
that
we
will
implement
it
in
a
level
so
that
users,
without
code,
would
able
to
tools
between
different
of
those
options.
So
once
the
nfts
are
out
there,
it
can
be
transferred.
It
can
be
sold
so
anything
that
the
user
wants.
Foreign.
D
Has
been
saying
that
I
think
our
thought
process
is,
is
you
know,
since,
since
this
is
so
new
and
we
do
need
support
from
the
community,
we
would
be
sort
of
working
very
closely
with
the
community,
with
our
rapid
pocs
to
kind
of
figure
out,
which
one
probably
would
would
be
the
best
way
to
go
in
terms
of
supporting
through
the
nft
Creator.
As
part
of
this
Grant
and
yeah,
we.
D
And
the
free
actions,
so
so
the
rapid
POC
would
kind
of
give
us
some.
You
know
on
the
ground
truth
in
terms
of
deployments
and
then
we
would
work
with
very
closely
with
the
community
and
if
the
community
is
able
to
come
to
a
sort
of
content
how
to
go
for
now,
we
would
we
will
go
that
route
and
if
not,
if
we
don't
get
a
consensus
from
Community,
then
we
would
sort
of
make
our
own
decision
in
terms
of
what
makes
sense
and
then
go
with
that
implementation.
B
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
fantastic
Point
I'm
wondering
sort
of
what
do
you
guys
acquire
from
Community
engagement?
What
sort
of
discussion
do
you
guys
require
in
order
to
bring
bring
about
standard
to
Market?
What
sort
of
things
are
you
looking
for
from
the
community
that
perhaps
the
foundation
can
help
facilitate.
C
C
One
thing
that
we
do
not
have
Clarity
is
on
how
accents
route
can
be
implemented,
so
we're
looking
and
we're
also
trying
to
engage
with
Gregor,
who
I
think
is
incredible
to
help
us
through
that
process,
because,
like
Excellence,
is
something
that's
really
new
and
it's
not
like
I
haven't
seen
it
on
any
other
platform.
So
it's
something
like
that's
very
new
to
us
and
it's
something
that
we
have
been
really
having
a
hard
time
like
grasping
the
whole
concept.
C
So
that
is
one
thing
and
also
another
thing
where
a
bigger
Community
to
be
engaged
is
like
just
point
out
the
use
cases
and
the
issues
that
they
may
have.
So
one
thing
like
I,
really
loved.
What
Mario
did
yesterday
about
custom
token
routes?
Is
he
had
done
that
previously,
and
he
says
like
there
was
issues
about
like
taking
around
10
minutes
for
one
transaction
like
and
I.
C
B
B
B
So
cardano
has
interesting
application
designs
that
are
related
to
addressing
those
race
conditions,
because
you
can
imagine
that
if
I
was
to
deposit
an
nft
in
a
Marketplace
contract
and
people
would
look
to
swap
it
or
purchase
it
and
raise
conditions
are
really
prevalent
there.
Because
you
know
every
time
somebody
tries
to
spend
that
utxo.
B
Everyone
else
is
set
back
to
square
one
and
so
sort
of
an
interesting
model
to
get
around
this
is
it's
a
utxo
Ledges
in
this
case
it
are
much
more
accustomed
to
ideas
of
bids
and
at
some
point
in
the
future,
an
actor
can
come
around
and
scoop
up
all
of
those
bids
and
appropriately
swap
the
the
nft
for
the
highest
bidder,
for
example.
So,
there's
interesting
ideas
that
exist
on
Mina
I
think
that
what
we
really
require
in
these
these
scenarios
is
the
maturity
of
documentation
and
accessibility
to
that
documentation.
D
B
So
I
I
would
love
to
hear
a
little
more
about
your
thoughts
on.
You
briefly
mentioned
that
about
other
nft
designs.
For
example,
you
mentioned
nfts
owning
other
nfps
upgradable,
nfts,
I'm
Keen,
to
sort
of
hear
your
thoughts
on
on
how
Mina
allows
for
interesting
use
cases
of
nfts
that
haven't
yet
been
able
to
be
searched
for
discovered
in
other
ecosystems.
C
So
what
I
mean
by
that
is,
let's
say
on
something
like
ethereum:
when
we
do
a
transaction,
it's
only
a
single
transaction,
that's
broadcasted
on
me
now
we
can
like
create
a
transaction
like
compile
different,
multiple
account
updates,
so
that,
like
various
multiple
use,
cases
can
be
like
brought
brought
forward.
That
does
not
is
not
possible
on
any
other
platform,
but
but
our
fundamental
Focus
right
now
is
still
on,
instead
of
going
for
those
features
that
can
be
allowed
by
the
Mina
ecosystem
to
get
the
existing
features.
C
C
There
there
are
okay,
so
one
thing,
I
think
like
I.
Looked
at
a
few
other
nfpe
based
proposals
out
there
and
I.
Think
the
thing
that
we
are
that
separates
us
out
is
like
our
focus
on
getting
the
standard
right.
So
other
projects
like
have
features
that's
built
on,
assuming
that
there
is
a
standard
out
there
and
it's
gonna
work,
but
what
we
want
to
focus
is
on
getting
the
standard
and
getting
it
out
to
the
public
in
a
more
accessible,
Manner
and
I.
C
Think,
like
that's
what
is
needed
first
before
we
come
about
like
other
proposals.
Other
proposals
are
really
interesting,
brings
new
features
to
the
table,
but
I
think.
First,
the
fundamentals
needs
to
be
done
right.
Once
we
have
the
fundamentals
right
then
whole
Community
can
come
and
build
on
top
of
it.
D
D
So
we
are
actively
pushing
that
on
base
in
hopefully
by
the
end
of
this
month
and
then
so
so
what
that
gives
us
is
sort
of
like
a
platform
to
play
around
with,
and
for
example,
we
are
looking
to
see
you
know.
One
of
the
great
use
case
of
using
GK
is
that,
although
on
chain
things
may
not
scale,
but
with
GK,
we
could
probably
do
provable
games.
So
that's
probably
something
while
then
that
Brazil
is
leading
is
doing.
Some
of
our
other
team
members
will
be
scoping
to
see.
Okay.
D
Is
there
a
way
to
use
Mina
platform
where
you
know
a
lot
of
the
game
logic,
even
though
it's
centralized
can
we
can
we
use
the
Mina
platform
to
make
it
and
we've
already
started,
exploring
that
on
the
Elio
Network
a
little
bit
to
see
how
Elio
you
know
as
long
as
our
dares
don't
have
to
learn
like
how
to
use
the
high
level
language
server
provides
that
feature
like
Emilio
and
Mina.
That's
definitely
something
we
will
be
scoping
around
as
well.
C
Yeah,
just
to
add
more
on
that,
like
the
way
the
games
that
he
talked
about
is
users
will
hold
nfts
and
those
the
players
will
play
with
their
nfus,
and
that
is
something
that
we
want
to
explore
on
Mina
as
well,
but
again
to
explore
with
that.
We
need
the
nft
person
place.
So
that
is
why
we
decided
to
do
with
Google
with
nft
Studio
in
the
first
place,.
B
E
A
I
I
guess
my
I
just
the
question.
I
completely
agree
with
the
sentiment.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
coming
on
and
and
opening
the
discussion
I
think
it's
setting
a
really
good
precedent
for
the
rest
of
the
community,
especially
in
tandem
with
yesterday's
call
I.
Guess
a
question
isn't
so
much
about
design
decisions,
but
it's
as
like
lectures
we'll
be
reviewing
your
proposal.
C
A
Yes,
like
like
what
are
some
of
the
like
I
I,
haven't
taken
a
close
look,
but
in
terms
of
your
roadmap
like
what
are
some
of
the
actions
that
you
would
take
to
ensure
that
the
community
standard
conversation
is
incorporated
with
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
I
just
for
the
context
of
like
for,
if
electors
are
viewing
it,
it
might
be
one
thing
to
say
it
and
then
another
thing
to
actually
take
action
and
figure
out
how
to
get
that.
Community
input.
C
Just
to
put
that
like
we
that's
the
reason
that
we
started
the
community
discussions
in
the
first
place
like
we
want
to
be
intended
with
what's
happening
in
the
ecosystem
and
just
be
built
top
of
built
up
on
that
like
if
there
was
an
entity
standard
that
was
already
out
there
like
implemented
tested,
we
would
have
like
it
would
have
made
our
work
so
easier
and
we
would
have
like
a
try
to
bring
more
features
into
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
build.
But
now
we,
but
since
the
NFC
standard
is
also
not
implemented.
C
It
is
also
something
that
we
are
interested
to
do
so
in
collaboration
with
liaf
or
or
with
Gregor
like
if
he
has
plans
about
accents
creating
through
the
standard.
So
our
Focus
will
be
on
getting
the
standard
right
with
the
community,
because
without
the
community
input
like
it
does
not
make
sense.
If
you
just
put
a
standard
out
there
and
say
just
use
it
it,
it
should
come
from
the
community
like
it
should
resonate
with
the
community.
C
So
we
will
make
sure
like
as
much
as
possible,
try
to
get
back
Community
feedback
and
do
that
and
that's
what
like
Kumar
mentioned
earlier
as
well
like
for
to
be
on
that
track.
We
will
try
to
come
up
with
pocs
put
it
out
there,
but
for
the
community
to
try
on
comment
on
and
once
like.
They
have
few
comments
like
incorporate
that
and
maybe
come
up
with
the
next
version
feedback
comment
and
again
do
that.
So
that's
that's
how
we
envision
building
this.
D
Yeah
and
just
to
add
to
that
a
little
bit
we'll
you
know,
I,
don't
think
we'll
be
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
actual
creation
of
the
nft
studio,
because
you
know
we've
done
that
before
and
we
can
lift
quite
a
bit
of
work
from
our
previous
work.
So
no
us
most
of
the
time,
probably
would
be
spending
on
the
Meena
protocol
with
the
community
to
sort
of
like
hash
out
the
the
next
steps
in
terms
of
standardizations.
A
Yeah,
that's
not.
That
sounds
great.
The
reason
I
ask
as
well
is
because
right
away
coming
out
of
cohort
2,
there's
a
there's,
a
team
called
protocit,
which
is
led
by
mate
who's
mentors
on
the
Discord
who
I
see
that
you've
quoted
in
your
proposal
around
the
custom
tokens
example,
he
has
developed
like
a
an
application
chain
for
framework
with
his
partner.
Our.
D
A
That
doesn't
have
data
availability
built
in,
but
it
does
have
off-chain
storage
and
there's
I
think
like
potential
opportunity
there
and
then
there's
also
sense.
Zk
ignite
has
to
cohort
2
has
been
in
progress,
there's
been
a
layer,
two
roll-up
solution
called
zeko
that
does
have
a
data
will
have
a
data
availability
layer
like
built
in
as
well,
and
so
I
just
I
can't
over
emphasize
the
importance
of
because
everything
is
moving
so
fast
and
there's
so
many
different
projects
who
are
building
all
at
once.
Having
the.
D
D
Here,
like
we
go
to
sell
the
foundations
Works
a
couple
of
times
a
week,
hustle
web3,
we
know
Nick
white
from
celestra
very
well
from
his
Harmony
days,
so
we
kind
of
have
this
reach
in
the
ecosystem,
also
to
like
Bounce
Around
ideas
with
and
reach
out
to
people
for
ideas
and
we're
definitely
going
to
support
prajal
from
that
aspect
as
well.
So
it's
not
just
like
one
or
two
people
like
trying
to
work
out
of
their
garage
to
get
it
going.
B
I
think
I
think.
Will
you
raise
a
really
an
interesting
Point
too,
with
the
space
moving
so
quickly
with
things
like
protocol
and
Zucker
I?
Think
there's
some
really
interesting
sort
of
reusability
points
of
those
topics,
specifically
when
I
think
of
zekko
everybody
who's
already.
Building
applications
on
Deca
ignite
are
also
inherently
building
applications
for
zeka,
given
given's
package
asses
interoperability
there
so
I
wonder
Kumar
pradual.
C
So
if
nfts
are
representing
something
like
critical,
such
as
maybe
a
verifiable
credential
or
anything,
that's
really
critical
people
I
think
would
love
to
have
it
on
L1
rather
than
on
an
L2
and,
if
like,
if
something
like
in
case
of
games
like
people
may
be
fine
with
L2
and
so
like.
It
really
depends
on
use
case
like
what's
that
out
there.
C
D
Yeah
and
again
you
know
so,
if
you're,
you
know
just
to
give
a
background
behind
the
scene,
we're
a
pretty
big
team
working
on
various
applications.
One
of
the
things
we're
working
on
right
now
is
something
called
X,
basically
messes,
passing
between
different
chain
and
right
now
for
our
gangster
war
games.
D
At
least
you
get
things
going
fast
for
a
low
value.
Like
you
know,
nft
is
on
the
games
so
that
that
way
it
allows
us
to
do
like
rapid.
You
know
deployment
and
experimentation,
as
opposed
to
say,
larger
breezes
like
layer,
zero,
XLR,
artists,
support
your
what
you
want
and
wait
for
them
so
not
not
having
to
have
that
dependency.
D
If
we
take
that
up,
as
our
you
know,
once
once
the
nfts
and
the
NFC
Studio
creators-
and
it
gets
going
the
thing
to
utilize
that
ourselves
like
eat
the
dog
food
ourselves,
so
that
would
I
think
add
more
I.
Guess
I
mean
what
I'm
trying
to
sort
of
say
is
that
won't
be
just
like
doing
this
nft
Creator
from
this
brand
and
done?
D
B
B
B
So
my
question
was
about
discovering
nfts
and
obviously
for
certain
user
types
like
collectors
they
they
want
to
know.
You
know
what
nfts
they
own
and
one
way
of
doing
that
is.
It
is
in
a
wallet
I
I
asked
this
yesterday
and
Nicole
about.
How
does
how
do
you
guys
see
a
wallet
discover
and
their
nfts
Pat
the
nft
studio
could
have
an
API
that
said,
hey
you
own.
B
All
these
nfts
or
perhaps
nft
Studio
wants
nothing
to
do
with
the
indexing
of
entities,
but
I'd
be
interested
to
gauge
your
guys,
thoughts
on
how
a
wallet
might
go
about
discovering
the
nfts
owned
by
it,
or
perhaps
in
another
use
case.
It's
only
up
to
a
certain
ZK
app
to
tell
a
user
what
nfts
they
earn,
and
so,
therefore,
the
the
ownership
and
responsibility
of
discovering
entities
is
not
on
nft
Studio
or
the
wallet
itself
is
up
to
the
zika
apps
to
tell
the
user.
C
Indexer
like
it's
going
to
be
a
general
focused
on
or
nfts
that's
been
created
through
the
platform
that
can
be
researchable
to
the
platform
itself,
but
the
nfts,
that's
created
by
some
other
method
like
that
is
unknown
to
us,
like,
let's
suppose,
like
NFP
election,
has
been
created
in
some
other
way.
We
will
have
no
way
of
knowing
that
nft
collection
has
been
created.
So
that
is
something
that
I,
don't
think
we'll
be
able
to
like
so
to
the
users,
but
the
Creator.
The
collections
that's
been
created
through
us.
D
So
maybe
this
is
something
as
we
get
more
Hands-On
in
Meena
and
that's
the
part
of
this,
like
you
know,
trying
to
build
a
rapid
POC
that
a
lot
of
this,
like
you
know,
outliers
thing
you'll
only
know
once
you
deploy
and
try
to
consume
it
like
what
the
issues
are
so
but
at
least
for
us
we
have
this
besides
the
Meena
community
board.
You
know
we
have
this
other
community
we
can
tap
into
tap
into.
We've
had
dealt
with
the
YouTube
and
GK.
D
B
Yeah
I
I,
really
like
your
ideas
around
building
it
right
and
specifically
with
the
community
yeah.
It
is
sort
of
the
canonical
requirement
of
building
good
products
of
making
sure
that
you
identify
users
you
build
with
them
and
and
iterate
going
forward
so
I'm
a
big
fan
of
that
yeah
yeah,
so
I'm
all
out
of
questions.
C
No,
nothing
really,
thanks
for
the
invitation.
I
hope,
like
the
people
who
understand
what
we're
trying
to
build
I,
think
that's
the
best
thing
here
and
come
up
to
the
discussions
like
pour
their
thoughts.
What
may
be
something
like
features
like
something
like
features
that
they
want
to
see
in
the
standard
like
more
standard
like
Kumar,
briefly
tossed
upon
like
being
able
to
privately
transfer
nft
I.
C
So
it's
something
that
can
be
made
possible
with
GK,
that's
already
out
there
with
snarky
Js,
and
that
is
something
that
we
would
like
to
experiment
going
forward,
but
like
we're
still
like
want
to
focus
first
on
the
getting
the
peace,
nft
standard
right
and
maybe
like
build
those
talk,
those
freezers
on
top
of
it
so
yeah,
that's
all
out
there
and
we'd
love
to
get
the
community
feedbacks.
Just
pour
it
out
there
in
the
community.
In
the
in
the
discussions
that
we
have.
E
D
Agree
yeah
I
just
wanted
to,
like
you
know,
put
it
out
there.
So
one
of
the
reason
we
sort
of
focused
on
Mina
protocol
is,
like
you
know,
we've
kind
of
when
we
were
down
in
Austin
for
that
I
think
there
was
a
consensus
and
Mina
had
a
you
know
the
whole
day
event
there.
So
we
were
there
and
the
time
was
like
doing
and
then
back
here
in
the
Bay
Area
Berkeley
GK.
D
There
was
an
event
after
the
mooc,
where
you
know
there
was
a
small
Mina
presence
there
as
well,
and
we
chatted
with
you
know
the
folks
there
as
well,
and
then
we
we
kind
of
got
the
sense
that
you
know
Mina.
You
know
there
are
like
so
many
chains
right.
How
do
you
pick
we
change
to
build
on
so
so
from
our
side?