Montgomery Capital City Connection (CCC) Board of Adjustment, 16 Dec 2021

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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
December 16, 2021

1. BD-2021-048 PRESENTED BY: Roderick Rudolph
REPRESENTING: Same
SUBJECT: Request a special exception for a private school (truck driving school) to be located at 4204 Selma Highway in an M-1 (Light Industrial) Zoning District.

2. BD-1992-134 PRESENTED BY: Jennifer Hand
REPRESENTING: Fishers Farm Corp.
SUBJECT: Request a special exception to keep poultry and livestock on the properties located on the west side of Woodley Road, across from Waverly Drive, in an R-100 (Single-Family Residential) Zoning District.

3. BD-2007-057 PRESENTED BY: Tyree Martin
REPRESENTING: Same
SUBJECT: Request a variance to Ordinance 17-2014 to operate a lounge at 6134 Atlanta Highway in a B-3 (Commercial) Zoning District.

4. BD-2018-033 PRESENTED BY: Yumeka Potts
REPRESENTING: Same
SUBJECT: Request a special exception for a private school to be located at 2823 East South Boulevard in a B-3 (Commercial) Zoning District.

5. BD-2021-067 PRESENTED BY: Barrett-Simpson, Inc.
REPRESENTING: Same
SUBJECT: Request a story variance for a new building to located on the northwest corner of Edgar D. Nixon Avenue and Elm Street, in an R-60-m (Multi-Family Residential) Zoning District (proposed).

6. BD-2021-065 PRESENTED BY: Legacy Heritage
REPRESENTING: Consuelo Bradley
SUBJECT: Request a special exception for an accessory structure without a main dwelling to be located on the east side of Hale Street, approximately 120 ft. north of Opp Street, in an
R-65-d (Duplex Residential) Zoning District.

7. BD-2021-066 PRESENTED BY: David Woodruff
REPRESENTING: Same
SUBJECT: Request a special exception for a mobile home for living purposes to be located at 30 Franson Road in an AGR-1 (Residential Agriculture) Zoning District.

8. BD-2021-069 PRESENTED BY: Christy Williams
REPRESENTING: 671 S Perry Street LLC
SUBJECT: Request an exception to SmartCode for new signage to be located at 671 South Perry Street in a T4-O (General Urban Zone-Open) SmartCode Zoning District.

9. BD-2021-068 PRESENTED BY: Tippett Sease Baker Architecture, LLC
REPRESENTING: Ashley & Barrett Gilbreath
SUBJECT: Request side yard variances and a rear yard variance for a new dwelling to be located at 2098 Myrtlewood Drive in an R-125 (Single-Family Residential) Zoning District.

10. BD-2021-067 PRESENTED BY: Aigner Kolom & India Wilson
REPRESENTING: Same
SUBJECT: Request a variance to Ordinance 17-2014 to operate a lounge at 2525 Highland Avenue in a B-2 (Commercial) Zoning District.

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And we serve on a voluntary basis without compensation.

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Our procedure for conducting business is that I will call out the name of the business or the petitioner if you would come forward to the mic and the podium and speak clearly so that we can hear your presentation at that time.

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Any member of the board might ask you a question or or explain a situation and then, following that, anyone that cares to come forward and ask questions or voice their opinion will be given an opportunity to do that. Once we receive public testimony on an item, the members of the board will deliberate. We will render our decision tonight I'll remind the members if you have a personal or a financial interest in a particular item, you're required to recuse yourself from voting.

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Any item that is presented by the petitioner or, on behalf of the petitioner during the presentation of the item will be binding as to any decision. The board makes relative to the motion remind the members of the board. If you have, if you wish to make a motion to deny an item, you must give a reason.

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This time I introduce the members of the board that are here tonight: ms kt brown, mr george howell jr, mr corey johnson, mr blake markham, mr bart prince mr pickett reese, and I'm john stanley, your chairman, we have seven members here tonight.

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It requires five votes to approve a motion, any questions, all our land, you staff that are here tonight. I don't want to leave them out. Mr tommy tyson, ms jovan hans and miss tanya ingram. Any questions.

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uh Just to let you know in case you're here for item number two, it has been withdrawn.

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That's item the petitioner miss jennifer hand regarding property on whitley road item number. One is presented tonight by roderick rudolph, requesting a special exception for a private school.

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That's a truck driving school to be located at 4204 selma highway in an m1 zoning district is mr rudolph here.

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Okay, we'll hold that maybe he'll show up a little later.

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Item two, as I just mentioned, has been withdrawn.

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Item three is presented by tyree martin, mr martin, here requesting a variance to ordinance 17-2014 to operate a lounge at 6134 atlanta highway in a b3 zoning district. Mr martin, yes, sir, all right who's, mr martin.

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Are you, mr martin? Okay, you may want to remove that mask because you're not gonna, it's gonna be difficult for us to understand you with that on, okay, okay, uh present your request uh for your location at 6134, atlanta, highway, okay! Well, my.

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Mom will be opening a uh a lounge and uh we're gonna basically be uh selling turkey legs and uh we're gonna be aiming at a 30 and older you're. Gonna have to speak.

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A little louder and a little clearer, because I'm not hearing you very well.

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Okay, I'm opening a lounge trying to open a lounge uh where, where we're just gonna, basically be.

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Serving turkey legs and that's.

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Basically, it okay, um I believe the hours of operation are intended to be monday through friday, from 5 p.m, to 2 a.m.

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Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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Saturday and sunday 11 a.m through 2 a.m. Yes, sir! Okay, do you understand why you're here, mr martin, uh yes uh you're, proposing to be.

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Within a hundred feet of a residential line, mr stanley, that distance is about uh 58 feet. Okay, your your location is proposed to be 58 feet from residential uh property. You wear that! That's why? You're here? Okay, okay, okay, any question board members.

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Anyone that'll just care to address this item.

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I'll entertain a motion then, mr.

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Chairman, mr howell, I move that we deny this variance because it is just too close to a residential area and despite people's good intentions and hopes, I mean entrepreneurs wanting to start a business.

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My experience with this proximity has proven to be detrimental to the residential area, so my motion is to deny this variance.

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Have a motion to deny to have a second.

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Mr ray suckers any further discussion, all in favor of the motion to deny this request. Please raise your hand.

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All in favor of it abstain, how'd, you vote mr prince well, you abstained. Okay, all right! We had six deny one abstain. Your motion or your petition, is denied.

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So what would be our.

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Next step, sir, what would.

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Be our next step.

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You can appeal the circuit court and you can see our staff about that.

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Item number four is presented by yukima potts, miss potts here.

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Regarding a special exception for a private school to be located at 2823 east south boulevard in the b3 zoning district, ms potts, here, okay.

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Hey how you doing no, you might want to pull that mic down seriously. There you go. Thank you um tell us what you want to do. Miss potts.

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I'm requesting to open a nursing assistant, school.

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Okay, you're in a b3 district, and if this is for a private school, yes, sir correct and you have indicated a maximum of 14 students and one instructor- yes, sir and you're going to locate in a shopping center. Is that correct? Yes, sir? So you got a lot of parking? Yes, sir, okay and one of the requirements that we have is you make sure you got adequate parking lot lighting?

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Yes, sir? Okay, because you probably have students leaving six or so when it gets started. Yes, sir right you in agreement with all that, yes, sir, okay, any questions board members, anyone they all just care to address this item.

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Have a motion to approve, as presented second by mr markham, any further discussion all in favor. Please raise your hand: okay, you're, good.

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Thank you. Good luck,.

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Thank you absolutely.

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Item five is presented by barrett simpson.

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Requesting a story variance for a new building to be located on the northwest corner of edgar diack, nixon avenue and elm street in an r-60m zoning district. Hello. How you guys.

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Good evening, good evening, fred good to see you, I've seen you in a while. It's been a little while how you been.

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Blake simpson, I mean blake rice, who was uh intending to be here with barrett simpson. Had a conflict, uh my name is fred baird, I'm with the bennett group. We are co-developing a senior living property to be known as freedom village, with the community action program of north alabama.

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The acronym for that is kapna, and this is part of a 10-year partnership between the city of montgomery and captain to redevelop this area. Many of you are probably familiar with lanier court, which was developed five six years ago.

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The property contiguous to lanier court belongs to the city. The city's plan is to donate this property to the to the project to the project, and the city is also committing city home funds for the financing of the project.

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The proposal is for a three-story building that will have 50 two-bedroom two-bathroom apartment units. It will also have it will have a office, a gathering area, a fitness center and a business center and a laundry included.

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So our our request is for a variance to allow three stories uh in an area that is normally two stories. Okay- and I have the project architect- joel peak is here with me: if you have questions about the building.

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Okay, uh I assume there's elevators, yes throughout the building.

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Yes, yes, we, this is for seniors, so uh we want a ride.

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Right and all access is internal. Yes,.

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Ins, interior actions right, yes, okay, all right, any questions, all access is interior. In other words, it's not exterior access.

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There'll be limited access, I think. Is it two or three exits.

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Yes, there are three there's a main entrance and two other exits will be card controlled. uh Well, I'll. Ask that question I'll, get an explanation. uh Timing, sure on the agenda. Tonya uh miss brown asked the question outside on the agenda. Here. It says zoning district proposed. What does that mean.

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It's gotta get final approval from city council on january. Fourth, so they're in the middle of the process of rezoning it okay planning commission has already recommended to resign it. Okay final.

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I love that zoning.

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From the city council, okay,.

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Thank you michael thank you, you're, okay,.

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Any any questions board members who.

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uh Mr towel, who.

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Owns this property now the city.

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The city owns the property now.

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Okay, who will own the property after after the building, is finished.

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It will be a limited partnership uh with uh capnu as the general partner, and then the balance of the partnership will be owned by investors, who contribute funds to the project.

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Okay, tell me again who that first, one is the general partner.

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Community action program of north alabama.

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Incorporated, okay and they'll be they're. The general partner.

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Okay, they got control, then all right, that's all! Okay! Well, I'm so glad you.

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Know: board members, anyone in the audience care to address this item. Yeah.

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I'll make a motion.

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One second welcome: oh absolutely, anyone care to dress up, I'm.

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So glad brian, you want to make a motion. Yes, that move that we approved.

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Have a motion to approve to have a second second seconds, any further discussion, all in favor of the motion as presented. Please raise your hand mr approved.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you see y'all later, thank you. That was easy. Buddy.

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Item six is uh presented by legacy heritage.

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Requesting a special exception for an accessory structure without a main dwelling to be located on the east side of hale street, approximately 120 feet north of off street and r-60d zoning district, hello, hello,.

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uh You may remove your mask there if you'd like as long as we can hear you well, are.

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Do this all right, whatever you want to do,.

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Okay, uh my name is consuelo bradley. I'm the president of legacy heritage nonprofit. We are sponsoring a community garden in newtown it'll be a membership. I.

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Can I cannot understand.

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Is that better, that's much better! You have to start over.

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Can I start again? Yes, my name is consuelo bradley. I am president of legacy heritage, non-profit.

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We are sponsoring a community garden in newtown to address the food desert issue, it'll be membership based and we will offer other services like a community mall. A access of our vegetables will also be donated to the community as well. We are here trying to get a uh variant so that we can have water.

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Okay, so you want to have this storage shed. Is that the term for it? Yes, sir, it has no plumbing in it right, no, sir! No any electricity in it. No sir! It's just a shed. Yes, sir! Is it going to be on a slab.

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And it's going to be used only for community garden and house equipment to house equipment and tools. Correct, yes,.

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No other purpose.

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Any question board members: yes,.

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Where's the garden going to be is it is that a ditch running through the middle of it? Yes, sir, that ditch is maintained by the city, we're building on either side, and we also have uh 10 to 12 feet on the left and also the more room on the right. Okay, our that outline is correct, you're, going to build a bridge across the ditch or what yes, sir, we have currently one bridge. We are going to get another one, all right who owns the property? I do, sir. Oh, that makes sense.

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I'm glad you're here, um okay,.

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So this is for the this storage shed is for the benefit of legacy heritage. Is that correct.

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Yes, sir, we want the members to that participate in the community garden to have access to the tools, uh small tools like hand, tools and different rates, and things that we want everyone to have access to.

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Would you agree that if the use of the property ever ceases to be used as community gardening, then the shed would be removed.

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If you agree, if you're saying you're going to use it for that purpose, if it ceases to be used for community gardening, will you agree to remove the shed.

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I will agree to remove the shed yes.

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Okay, okay, any questions board members. Any other questions is anyone in the audience care to address this item.

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Entertain a motion, ms brown, and be sure.

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Anyone in the arts care to address this item. I'm sorry.

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We're on item number six regarding legacy heritage are y'all here to speak in favor or against it.

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Yeah come on up here.

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Ma'am, if you will step aside, give these uh people an opportunity to speak, sir, you may have to remove your math, so we can understand you. My name is william thorne.

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Speak a little clearer and louder into that much. My name is william thornton.

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I'm a resident of the newtown community and I'm here with some of my fellow residents that have some concerns about this garden and.

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The benefit that it'll be to our community.

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Well, I just let.

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Them say what they want to say about.

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Well, let me say this: we're not uh considering this on the basis of the use, we're considering this, because she's requested a shed to be located there. Okay, this 12x10, all right, that's associated with the use, which is a community garden, all right, okay, the community garden, is not something we're considering. Okay. Thank you. So much is that that okay, you understand.

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Would y'all care to say anything any different.

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Yeah, okay, it's strictly to do with the shed and she's agreed, and it's a matter of record that if the community garden ever ceases to exist, the shed will have to be removed.

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Unless somebody likes to build a house on it, the reason she's here is because she's asking for permission to put a shed on this lot, because there is no existing struck existing home on it. Okay,.

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Okay, all right anyone else care to address this item. Ms brown I'll entertain a motion. If you wanted to make that.

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That we approve, based on the following conditions, no living miss brown.

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I can't hear you she can't hear you and you're gonna have to speak and maybe lower your mask.

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There be no electricity or any other utilities uh enclosed within the the uh structure. No ma'am.

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Within the structure.

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No plumbing or no electricity.

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No, no one living in there at any time and if this ceased to be for the community garden, um I'm sorry I didn't hear the last one she's.

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Given the motion ma'am, you just need to listen. Oh.

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Okay, I'm sorry she's not asking.

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You a question she's, making a motion.

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For she had to be removed.

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Okay, you got that y'all got that okay.

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I have a motion to have a second second, mr johnson, any further discussion. All in favor of the motion as presented. Please raise your hand.

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Bradley you understood the conditions.

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Okay, thank you.

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Item seven is presented by david woodruff, requesting a special exception for mobile home for living purposes to be located at 30 fransom road in an ag one zoning district: hey how you doing good.

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um So you want to put a mobile home on this 15 acres. Yes, sir, and uh our agenda shows something else there is that a home existing on that property or is that? Is it uh yeah? We got a couple.

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Things going on there's an arena right there, that's a a barn over there for the horses, it's in the pecan orchard, but it's the mobile home will be going below that barn right there. That's.

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A barn in the middle- yes, sir, that's.

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Yes, sir, okay just had to ask that question. We weren't sure about that yeah, um so you're going to use this for for y'all to live in correct. Yes,.

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And you uh will not be reining it correct. Oh, no! Okay, all right.

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uh I'm sure there are other mobile homes in that area. Correct.

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Yes, sir one right across the street and tons of them at the end of francine road right.

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Okay, any other questions.

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Is anyone here that cares to address this item I'll, entertain him I'd.

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Like to make a motion, mr stanley, that we approve mr woodruff's request as presented.

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Have a motion to approve have a second.

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Mr mike's second to approve any further discussion. All in favor raise your hand unanimous good luck. Thanks, sir sir.

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Item 8 is presented by christy williams.

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Representing 671 south perry street llc, requesting an exception to smart code for new signage to be located at 671, south perry and a t4o zoning smart code, zoning district, hello, how you doing hello.

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Thank you for having us sure, so we purchased this commercial space on 671 perry street and our hopes for it are to mix it with christie.

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You're going to have to speak louder and.

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Clearer, I'm sorry.

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Mike okay, our.

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Hopes are to mix this with residential and commercial space, and currently the signs that are on it are four small bb t signs. It used to be a vb t bank, and our request, of course, is to put of course, new signage on the the property where it's more uh easily read from the oncoming traffic coming off the highway and that sort of thing, and so we're needing a little bit of a bigger sign. A eight foot by 11 foot sign to go actually right on the front of the brick exterior.

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So it's eight feet tall and 11 feet in length right.

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Correct because our family shows.

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Something like that which covers the whole front of the building. That's not intended to be the case right.

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Right we're not going to have it top to bottom, just in that little space, yeah.

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No, I think the white space is what they're going to. I think they're going to either paint or do something different correct. So right now it's almost like a red orange.

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It's appropriate.

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On there I got.

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We're going to paint these.

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Signs that we're really dealing with here is called just where it says the bank correct. That's right. Okay,.

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All right, okay, and I believe.

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It appears that that's going to be just one big old sign out there.

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If you'll, let us know I'm just kidding.

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Just the eight foot by 11 would be great.

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That's right. Okay, in the discussion, anyone else can address this item question.

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Question is this sign lit in any way or yes, it is actually so there's.

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It's backlit, isn't it.

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It's internally lit, so it will be lit up internally.

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The letters will be lit like it shows in this diagram. That's correct! Okay! It.

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Won't be blinking, will it.

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No, it shouldn't.

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Be pulsating, will it no.

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It sign, I mean noise right, our.

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Intent is no added.

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And it is only it's only on one side of the building, not the other three.

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That's correct and.

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It's not on the parapet either. It's just on the face of the building just.

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On the face of the brick after this, this is.

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Perry street side is that correct, very straight side: yes, the barry street side, okay,.

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Yeah one side only curious. Okay, you want to make a motion. Miss tyler yeah. I move. We approve.

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The approve, the variance as discussed or as presented.

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Before I guess for the second did I ask: is anyone in the honors care to address this item? Okay, mr howell, you made a motion to approve to have a second. I want.

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To second it, but I want to make sure it includes not breaking not parsley on one side of the building.

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She said it would not.

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Confirmed no no pulsating or blinking! Mr.

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Howard, she wants you to include in your motion that it's not blinking, it's not pulsating, it's not a knitting noise and it's only on one side of the building. You agree to that soul moved.

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Thank you. You.

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Got it I was just.

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Now, if it was going to be a club, we might have an issue.

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All right, I have a motion and a second all in favor raise your hand unanimous good luck. Thank.

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Item nine is presented by tippett architecture representing ashland, barrett, gilbreth, requesting a side yard variance and a real yard variant for a new building to be located at 2098 myrtle wood drive in an r 100 125 zoning district, hey how you doing.

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I'm good, my name is chris tippett. I'm here representing tiffany sees baker and uh the gilberts and chris. If you would please oh yeah, sorry yeah.

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My name is chris.

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Tippett typically speaker architecture here representing ashley and barrett gilberth for this piece of property on elmer wood and the reason we're asking for the variance is the width more so than the depth, and I've been able to do more studies, since we've presented this for approval and actually been able to make our footprint smaller, but because it's a 125 lot, it's actually only 90 ft in the buildable lot area and so we're requesting that we have 10 foot setbacks as opposed to 15 foot setbacks.

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But we do not need the rear yard if the pool can be within the rear yard. Setback. Okay,.

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um We want to make sure that any water, yes coming off the side onto the side and rear property lines, are contained on the property, yes and don't intrude onto the adjacent property owners. Of course. Okay, yes, any questions board members!

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Cheers there's a structure on this lot already. Yes, there is there's an existing structure there. Yes, guess what there's an existing structure house there? Yes, okay, it'll, be uh demolished and it'll be yes demolished and removed. Yes, okay.

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Structure, yes,.

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All right thanks all right, I like to see that activity very good. Anyone in the audience care to address this item I'll, entertain a motion.

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I'd like to make a motion, mr chairman,.

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All right go ahead. I'd like to uh move that we approve mr tippett's request as presented. Have a motion to approve to have a second second.

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With the condition that the water coming off is contained,.

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Have them okay, did you get that you and you, okay, with that mr picket, mr reese.

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Okay, any further discussion all in favor, please raise your hand, okay, good thank.

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You thank you very much.

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Item 10 is presented by agner column and india, wilson, requesting a variance to ordinance 172014 to operate a lounge at 2525 highland avenue in a b-2 district.

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Members, I'll, uh if you will note that the this is a 93-foot variance where the hookah lounge will come within 157 feet of a residential district line, miss cullen or miss wilson who's going to do the speaking.

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We're we're going to speak together, so we're going to kind of uh tag team off so good afternoon. Everyone how you guys doing tonight. My name is india, wilson, and I am here with anya column. We actually we went to high school together, so we're from the area born and raised. We went to btw magnet. I was in the arts magnet, it was in the law magnet and we reconnected just a few years back.

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We actually met in our first day of leadership, montgomery class, so this has been a full cycle reunion for us both so since graduating from btw, I got my undergrad in finance and I also have an mba marketing and strategy. I went to school at fisk university in nashville. Tennessee got my mba from university of pittsburgh anya. She majored in law at auburn university out in auburn and then got went to law school at faulkner university locally.

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So we're a formidable pair and we're seeking a variance of about 93 feet within a residential district that requires 157 feet, we're seeking to actually create a space, because there is a white space in montgomery for a place where artists can not only create things but also have a downtime of actual vibe space.

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At night I moonlight as an artist. I have a few murals around the city and I'm in the art community all together, so that white space of creating a having creative place making in an area like highland avenue. That's currently underdeveloped in that space and it's been boarded up for quite some time. We just have an incredible vision for that area to be the place where murals are to be the place where we have spaces that are instagram worthy within our space all together.

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So I'm looking ultimately and we're looking ultimately to create a vibe where locals, artists and tourists can come together and it not only would be something that will benefit the community and the city locally, but it will be something that would drive tourists here to montgomery from miles and towns and states away, and we seek to have multiple revenue streams.

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One of those revenue streams will be hookah and alcohol and wine, and that's why we're coming here primarily before you, because we know that, within our multiple revenue streams, one of our percentage of that about 40 percent of that would come from alcohol and hookah sales. So we want to make sure we come for you before you correctly at the forefront, because that would be something that would you have the most questions about. Another revenue stream also would include brunch we plan to serve brunch on weekends.

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We also plan to have evening small plates and tapas, like any other, if you think of the taste how they have their tapas in the evenings.

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We seek to have those as well in the evening hours if you think about some of the brunch spaces like front first watch or another broken egg, if you've eaten in atlanta, that would be the brunch vibe that you would see on the weekends and then we also would have hookahs in the evenings that would pair with any charcuterie board or any wine flights and any other types of alcohol sales that go along with that and then, in the day time, to capitalize on our daytime revenue streams we seek to have make and take classes.

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We can come to learn how to make something. For example, if you wanted to learn how to roll a cigar, we're going to have rolling cigar flies, you're going to learn how to roll sushi we're going to have those classes. If you want to be able to make something and take it home, maybe you want to make an auburn sign for your front yard or alabama sign for your front yard. We're gonna have those classes now uh an example of that would be the um there's a place out on barn road.

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They have a making take place, you can make and paint different wood products and take them home. That's an example of that and I'll. Let you talk about some of the some of the concerns we want to hit on the risk and mitigation point, so we want to touch on and see if we can answer some of the questions that you might ask us before, we can um get into a little bit deeper good evening. I know um talking about this space. The big.

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Issue is the 93 feet and you know we're coming within 93 feet of someone's home, but this area on highland avenue is a very busy street. uh There is adequate lighting. I have pictures here, I'm not sure if you all would like to see them or not, but we've taken pictures. um The city has multiple lights on the street.

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All of these pictures were taken no flash or anything like that. The other issue, I know, is parking right there in the area, but we did. um There is a lot. That's two spaces down: that's empty open, a very large parking lot and it's owned by the highland grocery and meets so we spoke with.

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The owner- and he has agreed to allow us to use that space for our parking. So we intend to offer.

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Valet parking for.

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Guests that will come to the lounge into the areas. So at this point you know parking is not.

C

Really a major issue, since we are able to access that lot. There.

A

Well, you uh obviously you're in the proper zoning to do the majority of what you're proposing to do anyway. Yes,.

C

Okay, that's correct the.

A

Reason you're here is the hookah lounge, that's within 157 feet of a residential lot right, yeah, okay and uh we we are happy to see that you've got your parking taken care of. I understand you have an understanding about inflatable parking, but that doesn't mean it's guaranteed unless you own it or you have at least but we've we're dealing with the variance for the use of a lounge.

A

um Any questions board members, no.

D

I just want to thank them for coming. Thank you for having us.

A

C

C

What is in the building, the building directly behind you is zone b2 also. What is that.

D

That building right there, um that building has at least three roll-up doors and right now at least one of them is empty another one. They run a tax business out of it and um the third one I cannot recall, but it's kind of like a a commercial business.

C

D

C

All right, all right: okay,.

A

Any other questions.

A

uh Anyone they'll just care to address this item I'll, entertain a motion.

A

I have a motion to have a second.

C

A

Any further discussion, all in favor, please raise your hand. Thank you.

A

All in favor raise your hand.

A

All opposed motion carries.

D

Thank you so much. Thank you.

A

We got another item uh are y'all here for an item that.

C

A

Number one for the truck driving school: yes,.

B

A

Okay got you item one is presented by mr roderick rudolph, you, mr rudolph. Yes, you were questioning a special reception for private school, a truck driving school to be located at 4204, selma, highway and m1 zoning district. Okay. Yes, so, mr rudolph, you uh you want to operate a driving school for six to 12. Students for for a six-week course is that it just six weeks yeah, it's just six weeks, just six weeks. That's what we're talking about! Yes, so would come begin when and when would it end um what day?

A

And I mean what what is the six week period, you're talking about six.

B

Well, I was planning on uh starting one uh january 24th and uh exactly six weeks from that date is. This will be the uh final data.

A

I I'm not hearing you well, you have to speak loud and clearly, I'm sorry.

B

um I wanted to start on january, the 24th okay and, with the end, the day being exactly six weeks from that date. I'm sorry! I don't have that exact date in front of me.

C

I have a question.

B

Yes, ma'am for.

C

You is, are you gonna do six week? Are you gonna, do multiple courses each one being six weeks, each or just one time six weeks.

B

It's just one time: well, no, I mean it's gonna be an ongoing thing. Every six weeks.

C

It's not just gonna, be a one-time thing. It's gonna be.

A

C

Going for six weeks.

A

That's that's what I was trying to figure out too. Yes, so what it's a one, six week course. That's all we're talking about. No he's saying he's, gonna.

C

Do it ongoing uh-huh after he finishes the first.

B

A

Weeks he's gonna it'll be.

C

Okay, continuous.

A

C

A

But a different.

B

But a different class uh every six weeks, they don't take very long to you- know, train them.

A

Okay, let me let me let me do the talking here: okay, you're gonna have six week courses, yes, sir, not one. Six week course.

B

Not now not just one they'll.

A

Have you'll have a six week course and then you'll move to another secret week course. Yes, sir gotcha, okay and it's going to be from 9 00 a.m to 11 p.m. At night, that's mighty late at night.

B

Well, no because we were doing night and day classes, but at the moment we're just gonna just do day, classes from nine to two p.m: nine, to.

A

Two p.m: not eleven! No, sir. Okay. Nine! Nine a.m until 9 a.m, to 2 p.m. Yes, okay, all right!

A

um Okay! Here's the question! I have.

A

Your access on and off of this property, I'm looking at a drawing here, and it appears the access for this lot- is off of uh the side street not sell my highway correct.

B

A

Yes, yes, the access.

B

Is actually off uh brewer road that size access is off broad.

A

Road, yes, sir, not selma highway.

C

A

On my highway, that's important here: okay, you're saying access is not off or sell my highway, no, which you're gonna turn now.

B

The interest yeah the interest into a little.

A

Curb cut there, that's where you're gonna come and go correct.

B

Right there was at brewer road right, okay, the first.

D

B

Is where the classroom is we're back there in the back that property in the back? There's that's where uh we'll be doing training.

A

My question is: are you going to be accessing directly off the selma highway or brewery road.

B

From brewer road, um you said: what can you repeat that again, I'm sorry.

A

You're going to be coming and going off of brewer road right. Yes, sir. Okay, it's important, because if you take an 18-wheeler or whatever on an awful selma highway and you got to create another curb cut, that's a problem!

A

Your access is off of brewing road. Okay,.

B

Okay, so, but what we normally do is uh you know they have the chevron right across the street or right there next to it uh left of it and on the behind chevron. You know, I mean they have an area where trucks can, you know, come in and out and get on the road. So what we do is go across to the chevron and come up and we we get on highway 80 at the light right there. No, we don't.

B

We don't get on highway, 80 right there at a road, because it's just kind of difficult right there, especially when you're training, people.

C

He's got the the light. Is that way.

B

Yes, sir, okay, that's the chevron uh gas station right there to the left right there will someone just move the cursor at that's where the light is so.

A

You're gonna be coming off coming in and off of brewer road.

B

Now uh we'll be going to the light, we normally go to the light, yeah that when we coming back in, if we're coming from that way, we do turn in at rural road, but we always exit out at.

C

B

A

Yeah see all those trailers parked in the back there's a lot of trucking activity back yeah now, yeah.

B

Yeah the trucks be in the back yeah. What like you said, what, where the trailer is, but.

A

But over here, you're not gonna, be coming and going where that striped area is located right. No.

B

No, sir, that that's software, but we can't even I want.

A

To make sure that so.

B

A

Going to turn in at brewery road to get in and out of the properties. My question we.

B

Just turned in at brewery, but we come out at the like at the essex boulevard: okay, okay,.

A

In other words, there's no curb cut on selma highway, except that brewer wrote.

C

He would have to get held approval to get that anyway. I.

A

Just yeah I figured that yeah all right everybody clear on that.

A

Well, let me show you he's coming.

C

And going at that point right: there he's not coming and going down here. Okay, oh just did you see right there? Okay,.

B

But we're proving.

A

We're proving we're proving the use anyway, okay and tanya we need and jovan. We need to make sure that if there's any other curb cut there, it's going to have to be approved by our daughter traffic engineering. It.

B

A

Okay, we'll let them deal with that: okay, okay, you all right with that. Yes, sir all right and then your hours of operation, 9 a.m to 2 p.m. Correct, yes, okay,.

C

Any other questions.

A

Board members, I.

C

Have a question, mr howell: what is this property right now? What is that building.

B

The one that's in the red yeah, that's what that's just where we have the classroom in that small building right there. Well, what did it used to be? It used to be diverse, um uh uh a trucking company that used to do business with hunt local business with hyundai and suppliers. Thank you all right. Yes, it's the old divers building, all right.

C

Is this the lot around this building? Is that paved or what is that is that slag or what.

B

um It right there in the front yeah. No, it's not paved it's. uh They have like gravel like stone like rocks yeah, some rock. They have rocks out there all.

C

Right and on the side of it between the building and brewer road that gray area. What is that.

B

Yeah, that's the rocks right, though yeah.

C

B

But that's gravel like like right there in the center and on the side over there. That's like gravel yeah. I wonder why they did it like that too, but they got like this stone rocks on the side of it. Okay, okay,.

A

C

A

C

A

Towel will you any other questions, miss tyler? You want to make a motion.

C

Yeah motion to approve, as presented and discussed.

A

All right, we gotta need a second and then I'll. Let you make a statement. Second, all right have a second all right. Any further discussion, yeah.

C

A

C

I can't wait. He has a six-week course. He needs to put six-week courses with an s on it. Yes, ma'am, okay, operation, 9 a.m, 2 p.m, um access! According to what mr stanley said,.

A

Well, it's going to be subject to approval by al dock or the city of montgomery.

C

Okay, I don't need to state it. No, no! That's now, no.

A

Any further discussion, all in favor of the motion, please raise your hand. Okay. Thank you, sir all right, I appreciate it. We.

B

Didn't mean to give.

A

You a hard time just have to make sure we're clear on these. I understand.

B

This is no problem. Okay, all right. I appreciate it. Good luck. Thank.

A

You I appreciate it. I have a motion to flew the ministry in a second.

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