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A
C
A
Long
and
I'm
Richard
Baylor,
as
I've
already
indicated,
and
also
like
to
recognize
from
the
land
use
staff,
miss
Christy
Anderson
to
my
right
and
the
audience
left
and
Miss
Paula
Wade
to
my
left
in
the
audience
right
and
we
just
like
to
as
we
do
at
each
and
every
one
of
our
meetings.
Thank
them
for
taking
the
time
out
to
help
us
with
our
deliberations
here
this
afternoon
to
our
other
commissioners,
you
have
a
copy
of
the
action
of
the
July
9
2009
teen
meeting.
The
chair
will
now
entertain
a
motion
for
it's
adoption.
A
Moving
properly,
second,
is
there
any
unread
eNOS
there
being
none
all
those
in
favor.
Let
it
be
known
by
a
show
of
hands
motion
carries
thank
you
very
much
just
like
to
bring
the
audience
attention
and
our
other
commissioners
attention
to
an
annexation
map
that
we
have
with
us
this
afternoon.
This
map
shows
how
each
area
of
our
current
city
was
annexed,
and
the
map
begins
in
1819
and
I
would
just
like
to
ask
each
person
within
the
sound
of
my
voice.
A
If
you
know
when
your
area
was
annexed
and
became
a
part
of
a
city
of
Montgomery,
and
if
you
don't,
this
map
is
available
for
every
person,
there's
no
charge
as
no
fee,
and
you
don't
need
an
appointment
to
see
it.
But
this
map
will
tell
you
when
your
area
was
annex
and
if
you
are
interested
and
knowing
when
areas
surrounding
your
areas
were
NX,
then
all
you
have
to
do
is
to
find
your
area
and
you'll
have
a
clue
as
to
when
your
area
was
annex.
A
It
is
color
coded
so
that
you
can
match
the
colors
with
the
year
and
determine
generally
when
your
area
was
annex.
Very
beautiful
map,
I
say
that
to
say
also
I
gave
her
two
of
the
city
about
two
weeks
ago
to
a
group,
and
these
people
were
just
absolutely
amazed
that
at
one
time
people
live
in
what
we
today
call
downtown
Montgomery
on
Dexter
Avenue
on
Monroe
Street.
A
These
were
residential
areas
at
one
time,
and
this
is
the
kind
of
understanding
that
an
annexation
map
of
the
city
of
Montgomery
can
help
all
of
us
to
understand
a
little
bit
better.
The
rich
heritage
of
our
cities.
Before
we
move
forward
to
say
any
question
that
even
one
would
like
to
ask
by
the
annexation
ban
where
any
comment
not
necessarily
a
question.
Any
comment.
B
A
If
any
individual
wants
to
take
a
close
look
at
this
annexation
map,
beginning
in
1819,
as
I've
already
stated,
just
called
City
Planning
for
the
city
of
Montgomery
and
get
on
somebody's
appointment
book
and
come
downtown
and
take
a
peep
at
it.
I
think
every
person
will
really
learn
something
by
seeing
just
how
Montgomery
has
expanded
since
1819,
not
1919
but
1819.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
committee
report
revamping
the
historic
sign
program
working
committee,
Cindy,
keeping
and
Carol
King.
B
It's
slow
very
slow,
but
this
is
an
important
process
and
I
feel
pretty
strongly
that
we
get
it
right.
We
have
talked
to
several
vendors
about
you,
know
the
materials
and
how
much
that
would
cost.
What
we
currently
use
is
a
15
inch
wide
18
inch
high
0.63
grade
aluminum,
and
so
there
are
lots
of
things
to
decide
which
goes
down
to
when
you're
asking
for
the
proposals
for
somebody
you
know,
are
we
going
to
use
a
screening?
Are
we
going
to
go
with
the
vinyl?
B
C
B
A
Other
question
I
come
in
to
either
Cindy
keeping
or
Carol
King.
Let
me
just
throw
this
question
out,
for
those
persons
who
might
be
new
to
the
city
are
new
to
our
broadcasts.
First
of
all,
let
me
ask
some
perhaps
elementary
question:
what's
the
difference
between
a
historic
sign
and
a
historic
marker,
and
how
does
a
person
go
about
getting
a
historic
sign?
A
D
D
D
And
generally,
we
recommend
people
go
through
one
of
the
issuing
entities
in
the
state
either
the
other
in
the
Historical
Commission,
which
requires
that
a
property
be
listed
or
there'd,
be
something
there.
If
it's
the
site
of
something
that
is
no
longer
there,
then
the
album
Historical
Association
is
happy
to
help.
D
In
those
cases
we
are
in
the
process
of
having
a
marker
produced
for
Bill
trailer
to
place
downtown
to
coincide
with
the
screening
of
the
documentary
in
October
so
and
that's
through
the
album
and
Historical
Association,
because
the
RSA
parking
deck
is
on
the
property
where
he
set
up
shop.
So,
okay.
A
C
D
And
also
kind
of
maintain
contact
with
the
individuals
who
offered
to
help
who
all
have
experience,
both
with
curriculum
development
and
marketing,
who
took
the
class
and
expressed
interest
in
helping
us
in
the
future
with
future
classes,
whether
it's
another
preservation,
leadership,
class
or
other
offerings.
So
I
have
put
I've
put
a
budget
request
in
to
fund
a
hands-on
workshop.
This
fall
so
that
may
come
up
to
do
window
repair.
D
D
D
C
Terms
of
like
the
actual
full
length,
six-week
program
or
whatever,
eight
weeks,
whatever
we
had
six
weeks,
you
were
obviously
like
super
involved
with
that
and
your
opinion.
When
do
we
really
really
need
to
buckle
down
on
planning
next
year's
planning
next
year's
program,
so
we're
in
mid-august,
and
we
didn't
do
it?
What
like
April
s.
D
C
D
D
Now
granted
powerpoints
are
done
for
three
of
them,
but
so
we
we
need
to
look
at
that
and
start
thinking
about
who
might
be
a
site
set
up
where
the
public
could
I
don't
think
we
need
to
go
into
the
weeds
on
that
this
year.
But
you
know,
if
there's
a
good
response
from
what
some
of
you
know
notable
community
figures
produce,
then
maybe
in
subsequent
years
we
do
we
open
it
up
and
ask
for
those
community
submissions.
So.
C
D
B
A
Remember
when
that's
right
and
this
amazing
some
of
the
installments
that
he
had
of
days
gone
by
in
local
history,
that
he
brought
to
our
attention
in
a
cartoon
almost
like
form
some
of
the
eateries
establishments
downtown.
Some
of
the
things
that
went
on
around
town
with
Tom
Connor
had
at
all
and
I.
Remember
those
columns.
A
But
Tom
Connor
is
the
person
we're
talking
about
right
now,
who
really
did
his
very
best
to
capture
days
gone
by
from
local
history
and
put
it
in
the
Montgomery
advertiser
for
everybody
to
see
and
as
far
as
I
know,
those
installments
were
well-received
I.
Remember
them!
Well,
I,
don't
know
how
many
other
people
do
yes,
I,
remember
them
well,
when
I
was
real
small
and
they
appeared
in
the
newspaper.
Okay,
anything.
A
C
Yeah,
a
couple
of
things:
Montgomery
County
has
a
new
County
website
which
is
much
improved.
It
looks
great
check
it
out
and,
along
with
that,
the
Montgomery
County
Archives
has
a
new
collections
management
website
which
has
I
think
at
last
count.
Eighteen
hundred
digitized
pictures
on
it
and
some
oral
histories
are
just
a
lot
of
content
that
we
worked
really
really
hard
on,
and
you
can
see
it
all
at
home.
You
don't
have
to
come
downtown
if
you
don't
want
to
so,
and
all
our
font
collection
finding
aids
around
there
as
well,
should.
C
A
B
I
just
want
to
tell
you
a
vent
that
we're
having
at
old
Alabama
the
end
of
September
we're
partnering
with
the
slave
dwelling
project,
which
is
a
project
of
joseph
mcgill
out
of
South
Carolina,
and
what
he
started
doing
about
seven
or
eight
years
ago
was
going
around
the
country
documenting
slave
dwellings.
That's
one
just
one
dwelling
at
a
time,
and
so
he
just
bentonite
it
it's
pretty
plain
and
simple
what
he
does.
He
works
on
his
with
historic
sites
and
he
works
with
and
and
then
he
works
with
individuals
as
well.
B
He
slept
in
our
slave
quarters
at
old,
Alabama
town.
When
he
first
started.
We
were
the
first
place
outside
the
state
of
South
Carolina
that
he
actually
oh
there
we
go
that
he
actually
slept
and
he
writes
he
blogs.
He
videos
puts
things
online
while
it's
happening,
he
now
actually
has
a
fairly
large
social
media
following
as
well
as
a
membership
within
a
slave
dwelling
project.
This
is
he's
in
a
doing
an
educational
event
in
Mississippi,
okay,.
B
Mississippi's
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
Mississippi
and
when
I
said
he
went
around
the
country,
he
actually
does
because
you'd
be
surprised
how
many
places
North
that
he's
actually
spent
as
well,
because
there
were
enslaved
people
up
there
as
well.
This
is
North
Carolina
Virginia
and
all
of
these
are
housing.
Outbuildings
wood,
brick
that
Houston
slate
people
Charleston.
This
is
actually
where
he
works
now
at
Magnolia,
Plantation,
Massachusetts.
B
Okay,
another
South
Carolina.
He
also
does
a
lot
of
photo
ops
if
you've
noticed
he
has
a
very
active
Facebook
page,
and
this
is
basically
what
we
all
say.
You
know
shouldn't
somebody
do
something
about
this,
and
this
was
just
a
way
that
he
saw
that
he
could
do
it
st.
Mary's
Maryland,
you
see
all
the
different
types
and
architectural
styles
slept
here
in
the
ornament
house.
This
is
a
picture
of
a
house
that
was
documented
in
1934
in
the
Church
of
the
corner
of
Church
in
Potomac
Street.
B
B
This
is
our
work
area.
Work
yard
is
what
we
don't
call
it.
Kitchens
are
on
the
bottom
and
then
our
safe
quarters
are
on
the
top,
and
this
is
a
photo
of
Joseph
when
he
was
his
last
time.
He
was
here
and
he
slept
over
with
a
college
class
from
Florida,
and
this
is
this
is
just
his
goal.
Changing
the
narrative
one
slave
dwelling
at
a
time
so
he'll
be
visiting
with
us,
Friday
Saturday,
September,
20
and
21st
on
Friday
night.
B
You've
got
a
flyer,
there
he'll
be
doing
a
presentation
at
six
o'clock
at
the
old
Alabama
town
reception
and
then
on
Saturday
all
day
long
in
our
slave
dwelling
site
there
he
and
Jerome
Bias,
who
is
a
foodways
demonstrator
will
be,
will
be
cooking
in
our
kitchens
as
well.
So
those
are
the
particular
activities
that
are
free
and
open
to
the
public,
so
mark
your
calendars.
We
actually
have
on
our
site
eight
slave
dwellings
and
a
lot
more
of
our
structures
have
some
relationship
to
enslaved.
B
You
know
we
have
the
big
house,
but
we
don't
have
the
outbuildings,
but
so
we
actually
have
eight
structures,
and
so
he
likes
to
visit
with
us
because
we
are
such
a
large
educational
teaching
tool.
So
it's
a
very
interesting
person
and
you
might
want
to
follow
him
on
Facebook
as
well.
It's
a
slave
dwelling
project
come.