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A
A
Eight
members
present
tonight
the
procedure
for
conducting
business
is
the
petitioner
for
each
item
will
come
forward
to
the
microphone
present
his
or
her
request
and
answer
any
questions.
The
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
they
had
next.
Anyone
for
against
the
request
will
be
asked
to
come
forward
to
the
microphone
and
express
their
opinion.
Each
side
will
have
a
total
of
ten
minutes.
Developed
plans
require
public
hearing.
A
However,
no
action
will
be
taken
on
a
by
the
Planning
Commission
members
plants,
rezoning,
revised
master
plans,
street
renaming
and
text
amendments
will
require
public
hearing
and
once
the
hearing
is
and
complete,
Planning
Commission
members
will
deliberate
and
render
their
decision
Planning.
Commission
members
with
a
personal
or
financial
interest
in
any
petitioners
request,
are
required
to
recuse
themselves.
Members
of
the
Planning
Commission
are
cute.
A
battery
malls
claim
McKenna's
cruise
read,
Jerome
more
Frank
cook,
James,
read
buddy
Hardin
members
of
the
and
petitioners
are
requested
to.
Please
speak
directly
into
the
microphone.
A
The
minutes
are
recorded
for
legal
purposes,
and
this
is
the
only
way
to
accurately
pick
up
the
to
accurately
pick
pick
up
audio
tonight.
Hey.
We
have
eight
members
present
and
it
will
take
eight
to
pass
a
motion.
I
mean
five
to
pass
a
motion.
Excuse
me
because
of
the
number
of
members
present
if
you'd
like
to
delay
your
request,
please
let
us
know
when
your
request
is
is
announced.
A
C
Chase
Fisher
representing
five
points:
cultural
condition,
we're
looking
to
rezone
two
Lots
one
which
has
a
building
on
it,
which
has
always
been
commercial
and
was
commercial
at
the
time.
This
smart
code
was
implemented
as
well
as
the
lot
directly
next
to
it,
and
then
we
work
in
partnership
with
a
Jubilee
Community
Center,
which
is
right
next
door
and
which
we
really
shouldn't
be
doing
t4o
as
well,
but
was
not
initially,
and
so
they
won't
have
to
come
and
deal
with
that
at
some
point
as
well.
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These
are,
but
just
for
us,
I
was
just
making
the
point.
If
you
and
look
what's
circled
in
red
right
there
below
that
to
the
south
there,
that's
the
Jubilee
Community
Center,
okay,
so
it
is
currently
zoned
in
terms
of
smart
code
t4r,
but
that
would
mean
that
it's
out
of
its
proper
zoning
currently,
but
it's
been
operating
that
way.
The.
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A
C
C
C
The
the
Lots
down
the
street
are
already
zoned
appropriately
and
those
have
already
the
plan
for
those
that
have
already
been
approved
by
Planning
Commission
and
then
by
the
all
the
necessary
city
departments
as
well
and
then
same
with
a
lot
behind
this
building.
It's
already
zoned
appropriately
for
what
it'll
be
used
for
and
we
won't
join
those
together.
It'll
stay
at
the
parcel.
C
A
D
C
C
D
C
The
lot
behind
will
be
15
additional
vehicles.
There
will
be
some
angled
parking
in
front
of
the
building.
That
would
probably
be
another
five
and
then
I
think
we
have
a
surplus
of
around
20
additional
spots
down
the
street
on
the
other
parking
lot.
So
our
goal
is
to
go
over
and
above
the
requirements
on
any
so
we'll
be
exceeding
minimums.
C
C
A
At
this
point
in
time,
in
front
of
that,
building,
there
is
approximately
four
parking
spaces
is
that
is
that
a
fair
comment,
four
or
five
show
yeah
five?
If
you
don't
have
handicapped
okay,
so
that
is
definitely
a
huge
huge
issue
in
this
and
I'm
concerned
the
what
you're
going
to
have
is
you?
Don't
still
have
it
to
end
to
this
you're
gonna
have
those
Lots,
zoned
and
I,
know
I,
know
we're
working
off
into
the
planning
side,
not
sure,
but
you're
still
gonna
have
all
those
Lots
that
if
you're
going
to
do
anything.
E
A
C
C
C
C
Are
vacant
right,
so
there's
plenty
of
space
there
and
really,
even
if
we,
you
know,
got
into
a
scenario
where
you
know
hey,
there
absolutely
has
to
be
more
parking
like
right
now.
Our
plan
is
to
turn
the
lot
to
the
north,
that's
included
in
this
and
into
a
community
oriented
park
space,
but
if
we
had
to
make
that
purchase.
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C
D
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D
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F
A
question
that
might
that
y'all
might
be
able
to
answer
we're
trying
to
approve
a
request
for
rezoning
from
general
urban
restricted
to
general
urban,
open
I.
Think
everybody
in
Montgomery
wants
downtown
to
develop
and
develop
smartly
and
I.
Think
that's
why
the
smart
code
was
developed.
I
think
we're
here
to
try
to
protect
anybody
that
putting
this
type
of
establishment
across
the
street
from
a
might
damage.
F
C
Sure
we,
you
know
this
whole
process
has
really
been
about
a
three
year
process
and
a
big
part
of
that
we
got
a
grant
from
a
national
organization,
a
nonprofit
development
group
doing
this
art
place
in
America
that
contributed
to
it
and
then
a
local
foundation
matched
those
funds.
So
we've
been,
it's
been
a
really
big
deal
to
us
to
engage
the
community
in
this
whole
process.
So
we
had
a
community
fish
fry
to
engage
people.
Look
at
the
plans
from
the
very
beginning.
C
Let
people
give
feedback
on
what
the
architecture
looks
like
what
we're
going
to
put
in
those
spaces
down
to
specific
tenants
our
entire
board.
That's
on
this
nonprofit
development
group
is
a
neighborhood
board,
so
all
of
these
things
are
done
in
concert
with
the
community.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
want
to
do
differently
from
the
way
that
developments
done
in
downtown
a
lot
of
times
is
for
it
to
be
community
lead
and
directive
and
to
make
sure
that
it's
going
to
benefit
the
community.
A
B
B
A
F
A
E
C
Is
our
problem
in
downtown
and
across
the
board
we
figure
out
mazed
ways
to
make
it
work.
You
know
so
I
mean
we.
You
know.
If
you
look
around
this
neighborhood
we've
got
just
open
land.
You
know
even
the
houses
that
are
across
the
street
are
vacant,
so
there
is
a
plethora
of
parking
that
is
already
permitted
and
that
we're
able
to
count
towards
our
requirements.
So
all
that's
met.
So
that's
where
I
guess
I'm
having
a
hard
time
understanding
how?
How
are
we
held
to
a
higher
standard
which
we're
already.
D
D
H
And
so
that
my
name
is
clay
McKenna's,
Planning
Commission,
but
I'm
recusing
myself,
because
I'm
helping
lease
this
property
I
know,
Kippy
and
and
others
on
the
Commission
are
concerned
about
parking.
This
building
is
2,300
square
feet
so,
based
off
what
Tonya
said
in
the
requirements,
this
isn't
gonna,
be
you
know
Walmart
of
people
and
then,
as
far
as
fire
code
goes
we're
talking
about
a
small
establishment
here,
we're
not
talking
about
a
strip
mall.
D
D
Thinking
that
that's
the
issue,
I
want
you
to
understand
that,
first
of
all,
when
it
comes
to
parking
I,
don't
care
how
many
square
feet,
for
whatever
these
are
houses
across
the
street
that
could
be
vacant
that
could
be
bought
and
used.
As
what
residences
is
that
correct?
So
that's
what
I'm
concerned
about
parking
when
you
say
you
want
to
park
on
the
street
to
use
that
as
a
count
for
your
parking
and
these
to
be
single-family
residences
across
the
street.
Sure.
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D
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B
C
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D
A
B
A
D
E
A
A
Because
virtually
there's
there's
about
four
spots
up
there,
five
maybe
up
front
there
is
no
designated
yet
handicap.
So
you
know
you're
going
to
lose
some
some
that
some
of
that
space
and
I
did
go
back
to
the
to
the
back
end.
You
know
down
down
the
thing
and
and
there's
a
parking
place
or
two
maybe
down
there.
If
you
and
I
got
down
there
together,
I
don't
know
if
both
office
would
be
able
to
get
out
and
not
especially
not
at
the
same
time.
So
that
is
a
real
concern.
A
B
A
E
A
The
problem
that
we
have
in
situations
like
that
is
you,
sell
the
building
and
that
person
that
buys
it
doesn't
have
those
connections
and
then
have
those
permissions,
and
now
you've
got
a
retail
building
and
sitting
right
there
that
you
know
and
I
know
doesn't
have
enough
parking.
The
building
itself.
A
E
A
E
A
D
J
D
K
D
E
E
D
D
So
when
we
start
to
talk
about
parking
spaces
and
doing
the
regulated
parking
space,
you
have
to
consider
if
you're
going
to
do
the
parking
space.
The
right
way
it's
going
to
be
is
going
to
consume
more
space
than
what
you
think.
So,
when
you
calculate
all
this
into
the
available
square
footage,
that's
left
after
you
take
the
building
out
of
the
site.
That's
what
I
want
to
know
how
you're
gonna
get
these
spaces
in
there
guessing
about
15
is
one
thing
but
mathematically.
How
does
it
work
help
me
another.
K
G
D
D
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A
A
F
M
M
A
M
A
accountant
by
trade
I'm,
not
gonna,
discourage
anyone
from
wanting
business
and
making
money,
but
I've
spent
a
substantial
amount
of
money,
improving
and
enhancing
my
properties,
so
for
anything,
that's
going
to
improve
the
area
and
enhance
what
we're
trying
to
do
up
in
that
area
and
I'm
against
anything.
That's
gonna!
Distract
from
that.
M
M
And
crowd,
and
course
downtown:
it's
not
a
place
market.
So,
to
the
extent
that
is
you
know,
retail
space
is
gonna,
bring
the
right.
You
know
crowd
right,
people
to
that
area,
yeah
I'm
for
definite
commercial.
You
know
there
was
a
need
for
commercial
spaces
downtown
again.
Parking
is
an
issue
now
I
don't
have
a
problem.
Mr.
Barnett,
using
my
facility
across
the
street
to
the
extent
that
I
don't
have
something
going
now.
If
I've
got
no
sure
30
cars
over
there
and
therefore
and
I
come
in
and
he's
got
it
didn't.
M
You
know,
that'll
be
a
problem,
but
you
know
it
can
be
coordinated.
But
again
we
just
need
to
be
clear
as
to
what
the
intended
use
is.
That's
that's
my
biggest
thing.
You
know
what
do
you
imply
what
he
plans
to
do
with
it?
You
know
if
he
says
he's
gonna.
Do
one
thing
with
it:
that's
what
should
happen,
but
shouldn't
be
here
a
couple
of
months
and
something
else
is
somewhere.
M
A
E
E
D
B
G
A
G
Yes,
sir,
it
is,
it
is
the
I
think,
was
old,
VP
station
at
one
time
to
be
to
be
exact,
and
if
you
have
to
talk
to
mr.
Swamy,
he
loves
to
run
numbers
in
life,
and
he
told
me
that
this
is
the
only
one
particular
stop
through
Montgomery.
As
soon
as
you
pass
through
coming
south
that
there's
gas,
and
so
are
you
serious
and
I
started
thinking.
G
I
said,
yes,
only
other
stops
like
down
downtown
we're
coming
to
the
Exxon
station,
so
he
strategically
saw
this
location
and
saw
the
opportunity
and
right
now
he's
in
the
process
of
trying
to
repair
and
open
the
building,
as
is
but
want
to
do
the
expansion
for
because
he
feel,
like
it's
gonna,
be
success
in
this
particular
area.
It's
needed.
Yes,
sir.
Okay,.
A
G
E
A
M
A
A
A
G
Todd
Smith
Gonzalez
strengthen
associates,
2176,
Parkway,
Lake,
Drive,
Hoover,
Alabama,
three,
five,
two
four,
four
back
again
real
soon.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
for
approval
as
the
final
play,
they're
gonna
split.
What
you
see
right
there
in
red
is
like
one
of
the
Woodmere
crossings,
subdivision,
going
to
split
it
into
a
lot
1b,
which
is
five
point:
seven
acres
and
lot
one
C,
which
is
one
point
six
one
acres
lot.
One
C
is
for
the
use
of
the
Aldi
grocery
store.
E
B
You,
the
next
item,
is
presented
by
Jeffcoat
engineers
and
surveyors
LLC
on
behalf
of
80
MW
investments,
inc,
requesting
a
waiver
to
the
subdivision,
regulations
and
final
approval
of
h.
Mw
investments
of
plat
number
1
located
approximately
260
feet,
south
of
own
road
between
Payne,
road
and
Rea,
thorns
and
Road.
It's
an
Ag
one
district.
J
I've
got
three
Jeffcoat
with
Jeffcoat
engineers
and
surveyors
I'm
here,
representing
H
M
Dudley
investments,
Inc
and
I'm,
trying
to
subdivide
with
approximately
five
acres.
That's
the
last
bit
of
undeveloped
property
in
that
immediate
area
of
longer
than
right,
thorns
and
then
pain
and
wonder,
cut
it
into
three
Lots
leave
the
zone
in
the
lawn
at
present
time.
A
J
That's
correct,
that's
correct!
Your
regulations
require
you
not
on
a
double
flange
alot.
You
can't
have
access
both
ways,
so
it
does
say
that
you
stay
away
from
the
most.
I
forgot
what
he
wears
one
most
use,
but
obviously
to
develop
this
property.
You
would
not
want
to
have
your
main
entrance
off
the
pain
you'd
want
to
have
it
off
of
road.
J
J
J
D
Guthrie,
the
location
is
for
the
proposed
driveways
for
Lots,
two
and
three.
How
do
they
relate
to
the
interest
is
on
to
lavell
weight
level
way
or
whatever
you
call
it.
The
counter
pinch
down
against
the
property
line
between
two
and
three
and
I'm,
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
does
that
look
coming
out
of
those
Lots
on
to
rate
thorns
and
then
how
does
that
react
to
leave
a
away.
J
D
J
D
I
hear
you
but
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
if
there's
a
way
that
you
can
align
the
drives
so
that
they
appear
to
be
in
alignment
so
that
that
whole
little
connection
there
works
better
than
what's
proposed.
That's
all
I'm
asking!
Well
that's
what
I'm
asking.
Would
you
consider
real
real
revising
this,
so
that
those
interests
would
relate
to
one
another?
A
lot
better.
J
J
D
A
A
A
E
A
A
G
D
D
D
E
D
B
A
A
B
B
D
A
A
You
you
got
a
hand
on.
E
B
D
A
J
J
E
D
B
G
J
D
J
J
J
D
J
A
A
E
A
E
M
E
E
E
A
G
You
actually
in
lot
number
one
we
are
planning
to
later
on,
not
currently
at
this
moment
develop
a
home
or
shed
or
storage,
because
this
is
a
family
owned
property.
The
only
thing
that
we
wanted
to
divide
it
to
give
my
brother
and
I,
and
my
parents
separate
register
lon
I
guess
so
the
house
number
two
that
is
mine
in
the
house
and
number
three.
That
is
my
brother.
A
I
You
understand
that,
but
I
didn't
know
what
he
wanted
to
do
with
it,
because
I
don't
think
they
can
bring
another
trailer
in
there.
They
don't
even
have
a
it's
a
little
over
four
acres.
It's
all
I
got
how
they
can
get
three
three
things
that
every
four
acres
we
used
to
when
we
moved
out
there.
We
had
to
have
at
least
five
acres
to,
for
you
know
each
family
before
we
could
put
a
septic
tank
down
now.
He's
gonna
have
three
on
four
acres.
I
A
E
A
F
F
Everybody
laughs
like
this
song
on
Ryan
Road,
like
of
course
it's
not
gonna
be
houses,
but
this
is
the
same
scenario
and
here's
this
lady
asking
if
they're
gonna
do
houses,
he
says:
oh,
my
brother's,
taking
one
my
father's
taking
one
I'm
taking
one
we
just
approved
one
Tommy's
gonna
prove
it
no
matter
what
we
do
but
I'm
confused
as
why
we
have
two
two
triangular
shaped
Lots.
Mr.
Cano.
Can
you
answer
that?
But
I
we
can't
go
backwards,
so
it's
just.
That
was
the
previous
one,
but
it's
just
interesting.
A
A
A
A
G
E
G
G
A
J
D
D
Not
talking
about
you
this,
this
whole
conversation
should
not
be
allowed
because
has
not
been
properly
advertised
for
what
we're
considering
tonight
and
that's
my
position.
It
has
not
been
properly
advertised
that
lady
behind
you
does
not
know
until
she
got
here
that
she
was
looking
at
three
lines.
Instead
of
four
am
I
wrong.
Now,
hi.
I
On
there
you
don't
know
this,
you
don't
go
across
the
railroad
track,
because
there's
the
one
trailers
right
up
to
the
road,
the
others
back
by
the
railroad
track
and
where
they
clean
up
baggies
in
between.
So
it
looks
like
they're
gonna
put
a
home
in
between
the
two
trailers.
That's
what
it
looks
like
domain.
I
A
D
I
B
J
A
N
A
B
K
A
H
A
K
C
D
F
A
K
K
A
Okay,
any
comments,
any
questions:
okay,
this
was
a
public
hearing
and
it
was
a
public
hearing
for
Lots
one
block
two
and
a
lot
three
ventures
at
East
Chase.
We
will
so
we
will
say
that
that
we
have
had
the
public
hearing,
so
we
will
now
be
on
item
number
11,
which
is
the
plat
for
these
three.
These
profit,
this
property
did
I,
say
that
right.
Do
you.
K
K
They
may
be
false
hopes,
I
see,
there's
also
there's
a
water
and
sewer
easement
down
here
it
may
be
possible.
They
may
be
working
on
possibly
having
to
vacate
the
easement
where
the
building
is,
but
I
did
not
know
that
for
sure,
but
it
is
the
three
laws
for
the
city.
The
separate
development
plans
that
have
been
submitted
that
we're
just
discussed.
A
A
K
Because
what
is
existing
that
is
planted,
but
if
the
remarks
had
here
that
that
six
slots
going
into
nine
Lots,
however,
this
was
flat.
Three
that's
already
been
flatted.
This
was
flat
for
that
the
Planning
Commission's
already
approved,
but
not
recorded.
This
was
flat
five
that
the
Planning
Commission
approved,
but
not
recorded,
so
actually
we're
reducing
it,
reducing
five
lights,
so
that
actually
is
going
from
14
locks
to
nine
loss.
The
lights
are
actually
gonna
be
larger.
That
makes
me
sense.
L
D
A
K
K
K
These
two
plates
were
the
only
two
flats
that
we
had
not
reported
proved
by
the
Planning
Commission,
but
not
recorded.
Therefore,
that's
why
I
know
it
sounds
crazy.
I
mean
I
even
called
and
said,
wait
a
minute
we're
not
increasing
or
decreasing,
and
that's
the
way
it
was
explained
to
me
as
well.
That
makes
sense.
K
D
F
F
G
H
K
F
K
K
D
B
A
L
K
L
J
K
K
And
I
wasn't
here
till
nice
meeting
it
and
I
apologize.
Cedric
is
living
her
son
to
college,
but
this
came
before
the
Commission
and
it
then
it
came
back
correct
because
there
were
issues
I,
don't
recall.
K
N
David,
Brewer
and
I'm,
you
know
for
this,
and
you
know
this
is
a
you
know.
Basically
what
the
plan
was
for
the
area
has
its
same
size.
Lots
one
of
the
questions
was
I.
Think
access
to
it
was
that
correct
someone
asked
you
know:
I
know
that
the
owner
has
a
warehouse
back
that
comes
off
the
Troy
Highway.
He
also
has
some
other
land,
so
you
know
we
haven't
gotten
in
a
discussion
about
it,
but
I
think
the
contractors
talked
about
setting
up
over
next
to
the
warehouse
all
for
the
Troy
highway.
N
L
K
That
I
know
that
we
sent
the
we
said
the
Department
a
list
of
all
the
joint
property
owners.
They
posted
signs
and
I.
Don't
know
what
type
of,
if
I,
think
well.
If
they
would
have
had
any
people
called
with
any
problems.
We
would
have
heard
about
it
and
we
would
have
addressed
them,
but
we
did
not
get
any
any
of
those
calls.
L
What
I'm
talking
about
is
the
people
that
live
on
new
harvests.
Have
you
discussed
with
them?
What
is
coming,
whether
it's
gonna
be
trucks
coming
down
in
the
morning
coming
down
in
the
afternoon
and
stuff?
That's
that's
my
concern
because
I
talked
with
them
and
they
weren't
aware
of
it,
and-
and
there
was
a
quite
frankly
that
was
some
other
issues
they
weren't.
Aware
of
so
my
my
question,
I
mean
my
comment
is:
is
there
any
way
you
could
have
a
public
meeting
with
them.
L
Us
what
I'm
trying
to
prevent
it
being
a
problem
and
it
being
miscommunication
and
with
that
kind
of
thing,
so
all
I'm
asking
you
is:
is
there
any
way
you
can
bring
it
up?
You
can
get
with
them.
Talk
with
the
the
people
live
in
that
area,
especially
those
on
new
harvests
and
explain
to
them
and
come
back
next
month
with
it.
That's
all
I'm
asking
James.
L
D
D
L
K
K
A
F
N
You
know
Jerome
I'm,
not
sure
how
it
all
ties
together.
I
know
that
the
guy
that's
doing
some
contracting
work
out.
There
is
asked
for
permission
to
park
on
that
property.
Next
to
the
warehouse
off
the
Troy
Highway,
he
does
have
land
over
there's
a
whole
Stead's
office.
He's
got
a
tract
of
land
over
there.
That
also
access
is
the
neighborhood,
but
I
mean
I,
haven't
seen
a
plan
drawn
where
they're
gonna
access
in
there.
But
you
know
really
all
we're
doing
is
continuing.
N
What's
been
going
on
out
there,
it's
the
same
size
lot,
it's
a
development
plan
that
my
understanding
was
approved
earlier,
the
master
plan,
so
we're
not
changing
right,
we're
just
asking
to
move
forward
and
that
the
problem
they
had
in
the
past
had
to
do
with
an
apartment
development.
It
was
not
residential
that
was
had
to
do
with
an
apartment
site
out
there.
So
you
know
we're
not
trying
to
change
it.
Okay,.
A
G
Name
is
Martin,
705
live
in
circle
and
I
guess
I'm
not
for
or
against
I
just
wanted
to
see.
Basically,
what's
going
on
when
I
got
the
letter
based
on
what
you
were
saying,
mr.
Reid
I'm
not
sure
there
were
anything
any
things
that
were
addressed
that
I'm
mad
at
breasts,
I
would
just
got
back
from
training
not
too
long
ago.
So
I
did
I.
Do
remember
the
one
of
the
guys
from
the
homeowners
association
bringing
something
up
to
me,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was
anything
happening
deal
with
this.
K
G
L
N
Know
the
man
that's
going
to
do
the
developing.
You
know
the
equipment
stuff's
gonna,
be
over
there
by
the
warehouse.
I
mean
I.
Couldn't
tell
you
something's
not
going
to
drive
down
the
street.
This
is
a
developing
area.
You
know
over
on
the
other
end
as
well
as
this
scene,
I
mean
it's
just
an
area.
This
is
continuing
to
develop,
but
I
do
know
that
they've
requested
the
park
equipment
over
there
to
the
left
of
his
warehouse,
and
he
does
have
some
land
over
there.
Next
to
mr.