►
From YouTube: Montgomery City Planning Commission (11/18/21)
Description
The Montgomery City Planning Commission's November meeting
A
A
Plats
rezonings,
revised
master
plans,
street
renamings
and
text
amendments
require
a
public
hearing
and
once
the
public
hearing
is
completed,
planning
commission
members
will
deliberate
and
render
their
decision
planning.
Commission
members
with
a
personal
or
financial
interest
in
any
petitioner's
request
are
required
to
recuse
themselves.
A
You
staff
are
mr
tommy
tyson
to
my
right,
mr
james
center
also
and
miss
miss
jovan,
hines
members
and
petitioners
are
to
please
speak
directly
into
the
microphone
at
the
podium.
The
minutes
are
recorded
for
legal
purposes,
and
this
is
the
only
way
to
accurately
pick
up
audio
tonight.
We
have
nine
members
present
and
it
takes
five
votes
to
pass
a
motion
because
of
the
number
of
board
members
present,
and
I
don't
think
he
will.
If
you
would
like
to
delay
your
request,
please
let
us
know
when
your
request
is
announced.
A
B
A
B
F
Good
evening
I'm
kenneth
white
jr
with
flowers
and
white,
representing
t
investments
llc
from
those
that
were
here
last
last
month.
This
was
presented
last
month
as,
as
he
said,
this
is
in
a
r
75
at
zoning.
We're
we're
requesting
plenty
of
flat
approval
of
with
this.
With
this
plat
first
half
it
adheres
to
the
sub,
so
division
regulations
and
the
zoning
regulations
for
r75s.
F
B
F
So
mr
harwick's
question
was
that
there's
some
existing
sewer
that's
running
throughout
the
property
throughout
the
raw
land.
That
sewer
was
installed
from
the
south,
going
northward
on
some
earlier
phases
of
county
downs.
There's
also
a
sewer
line
running
from
the
east
to
west
that
was
already
installed.
F
B
F
F
G
C
D
F
Well,
so
we
had
a
meeting
several
weeks
after
our
our
last
meeting
with
y'all
a
couple
hour
meeting.
There
was
several
hundred
people
there,
so
we
had
a
good
congregation
of
people.
You
know
we
explained
you
know
the
stub
out
streets
and
while
we're
connecting
there
are
some
drainage
questions
in
there.
I
try
to
explain,
understand
we're
just
in
the
preliminary
flat
stage
right
now,
as
I
told
in
the
meeting
we
haven't,
haven't
engineered
this
yet
so
before
we
can
even
start
construction.
F
I
have
to
satis
satisfy
the
engineering
department,
as
well
as
the
sewer
department
and
the
fire
department,
and
all
the
comments
have
to
be
addressed.
The
city
has
a
third
party
that
actually
reviews
our
hydrology
for
this.
For,
for
the
drainage
system,
they're
very,
very
thorough
I
can
attest
to
that.
So
so
we
explained
the
drainage
questions
there.
We
explained
the
stub
out
streets,
holly
brook
and
christian,
and
the
connectivity
requirements
from
the
city
and
while
we're
connecting
those
right
there,
but
you
know
we,
we
we
spent
two
hours
answering
the
questions.
F
The
drainage
system-
that's
that's
like
mr
reeves.
That's
the
storm
system.
So
again,
one
of
the
the
area
of
to
the
northeast
is
kind
of
flat.
A
gentleman
said
it's
kind
of
prone
to
to
low
areas
right
there,
and
I
agree
with
him.
You
can
look
at
the
contours.
It's
a
flat
system
nothing's
in
the
flood
plain
in
this
area
right
here
this
immediate
area
right
here,
so
you
see
our
detention
pond
in
the
middle
of
the
site,
we're
again
we're
you
know.
F
H
F
Understanding
that
the
traffic
study
is
not
required
for
the
subreddits,
it
states
that
for
puds
you
know
plain
unit
developments,
they
are
required,
but
we're
just
we're
not
we're
not
a
plane,
we're
not
a
put.
So
you
know
back
in
2002
the
this
body
approved
the
plumbing
plat
that
had
a
street
network
so
that
had
several
you
know
several
over
a
hundred
or
so
lots
that
was
approved
in
that
in
that
blooming,
fluid
platz
approved
the
street
network,
but
obviously
the
flats
with
the
lots
were
shown
on
that
plymouth
light
as
well.
H
F
Again,
we
we
met,
that's
not
that's
by
understanding,
that's
correct
and
we
met
with
the
traffic
engineer
on
the
front
end
before
we
brought
this
to
the
body
a
couple
months
ago,
and
because
you
know
if
this
is
important,
facet
of
any
design
is
traffic
and
because
we
would
want
to
make
sure
the
city
is
in
support
of
attaching
to
those
still
about
streets,
and
they
concurred
that
they
were
so.
He
did
not
mention
any
any
requirement
of
a
traffic
study.
The
traffic
engineer
here
in
town
did
not
at
that
time.
Okay,.
C
It's
once
it's
put
on,
it
stays
until
it's
proposed
to
change,
but
it's
it's
once
it's
once
it's
placed
on
there.
It
stays
on
there
forever
until
unless
some
somebody
comes
along
for
some
reason
and
wishes
to
change
it.
If
it's
already
developed,
it's
pretty
much
locked
in,
but
you
know
if
it's
rezoned,
that
would
take
it
away
from
what.
B
B
C
B
B
Overall
but
again
just
you
got
to
get
it
simple
for
me,
if
that,
if
that
was
100
foot,
if
it
was
approved,
which
is
what
somewhere,
I
didn't
just
make
that
up.
Okay,
if
that's
the
case,
and
if
plants
don't
die,
wouldn't
that
still
be
in
place
and
that
this
would
be
a
a
a
version.
Change
from
that
approved
plot
is
that
am
I
missing
something?
I
B
F
Okay,
can
I
put
points
on
that
yeah?
The
way
I
understand
it
is
so
there's
a
preliminary
plot
that
was
approved
in
o2,
so
the
primary
plat
sets
the
streets
throughout
the
raw
land.
The
zoning
sets
the
width
of
the
lot.
So
though,
a
hundred
foot
lots
were
shown
on
the
preliminary
plat
back
in
o2.
You
know
that
plat
is
still
active,
but
it's
just
plenty
of
plats
approve
the
street
network
through
the
raw
land.
F
So
you
know,
theoretically,
that
you
can
put
a
smaller
lot
on
that
same
street
network
as
long
as
it
adheres
to
the
zoning
ordinance
in
a
70-foot
wide
lot.
You
know
what
sets
obviously
the
street
will
I
mean
we
have
to
come
back
for
a
final
plot.
So
that's
when
that's
when
we
that's
when
you
have
to
say
that
these
lots
meet
zoning
and
as
long
as
it
is
75
foot
in
width,
I
guess
it
would
in
this
r
75,
that's
sony
but
yeah.
The
plumbing
flat.
F
F
B
B
K
F
Several
several
years,
probably
before
the
platinum
two
there
are
75
zombies,
probably
when
you
were
born,
might
have
been
and
then
back
in
o2
when
they
did
the
preliminary
plat
it
set
the
street
network
from
what
county
downs
was
developed
at
that
time
and
since
so
too
they've
kind
of
did.
You
know
20
30
lots
at
a
time
to
mimic
that
preliminary
flat.
That
was
of
record
since
they've
stopped
now
and
now
the
raw
lands
here
that
plat
is
still
active
again.
F
H
H
C
C
F
Mr
cook,
they
were
in
the
preliminary
plat.
You
always
showed
lots
just
of
representative
lots
on
the
plumbing
flat.
They
were
probably
shown
as
dashed
lines
like
like.
I
have
they're
represented
lots
on
this
preliminary
flat
and
what
we're
requesting
now
is
polarity
flat.
I
want
you,
you
know
we're
requesting
to
set
the
street
network
throughout
this
development
and
we're
going
to
come
back
with
a
final
flat
and
that's
going
to
that's
going
to
iron
clad
those
are
75,
foot
wide
or
wider
watts.
That's
what
we're
going
to
ask.
E
H
E
E
H
C
E
F
F
Sorry,
I'm
not
sure
what's
going
on,
I
don't
know
why
why
they
didn't
continue
to
finish
the
development,
but
it
was
in.
You
know.
If
you
look
at
the
preliminary
plot
that
was
approved
in
o2,
they
connect
holly
brook
and
actually
connect
foxdale
so
in
and
we
connect
christian
road.
So
when
we
see
road
names
on
two
different
developments,
it's
it's
understood
to
me
and
I
wanted
to
confirm
it
when
we
met
with
the
traffic
engineer
that
they
wanted
interconnectivity.
F
So
you
know,
as
you
see,
our
first
phase
is
going
to
be
the
the
west.
You
know
50
lots
or
so
we're
still
not
going
to
get
to
holly
brook
until
phase
two.
So
that's
the
same.
We're
just
going
to
develop
west
to
east
and
connect,
as
you
know,
should
y'all
approve
this
connect
as
we
as
we
go
that
in
that
direction,.
F
L
L
Thank
you,
ma'am.
Let
me
say
first
I
want
to
follow
up
on
something
that
was
just
discussed,
because
I
hear
several
of
y'all
saying
the
exact
same
things
we
all
have
on
our
mind.
We
did
meet
with
the
developer
and
the
engineer.
Last
week
they
were
very
kind
to
give
us
a
couple
hours.
We
went
over
a
lot
of
things,
some
of
the
things
they
didn't
want
to
tell
us,
but
here's
the
things
that
came
out
of
that
meeting
that
I
think
are
very
important.
L
They
have
not
bought
the
property,
they
have
not
closed
a
loan,
they
have
a
contract
to
buy
it.
But
if
this
plan
is
not
approved,
they
do
not
have
to
buy
it.
It's
totally
their
option.
They
have
not
hired
a
builder,
they
said
they're
talking
to
some
builders
and
we
asked
who
you're
talking
to.
They
said
we're
not
going
to
tell
you
that
it's
a
lot
of
things
going
on
that.
L
We
really
want
to
know
that
we
can't
know-
and
I
understand
that-
that's
proprietary-
that's
what
builders
and
developers
do,
but
I
want
you
to
understand,
nobody's
done
anything
yet
they
hadn't
started
any
construction.
Hadn't
engraved
any
roads,
nothing
has
been
done
if
the
plat's
not
approved,
I'm
of
the
opinion
they're,
probably
going
to
walk
away
from
it
or
they
could
come
back
with
another
platt
with
some
of
these
things
we're
talking
about.
So
let
me
talk
about
some
of
the
things
y'all
just
mentioned.
L
We
asked
them
about
drainage
traffic
study
every
bit
of
that
this
future
pond,
that's
up
there.
That
was
on
the
original
2002
plat.
We
asked
about
all
of
that.
We
had
residents
concerned
about
drainage.
I
think
you're
going
to
hear
in
just
a
minute
from
somebody.
The
answer
we
kept
getting
was
we're
going
to
do
that
later,
we're
going
to
do
that
down
the
road.
Well,
I
read
your
regs.
I
read
your
bylaws.
I
submitted
a
four-page
handout.
I
hope
all
of
y'all
have
got
it.
L
I
was
told
if
I
got
it
there
by
noon
today,
you
would
all
have
it
the
way.
I
read
your
regulations.
You've
got
to
have
a
traffic
study
ahead
of
time
before
you
approve
a
plat
that
has
a
subdivision
of
50
houses
or
more
we're
talking,
244
houses
here,
we're
talking
about
the
main
road,
one
of
the
main
roads
in
fox
hollis.
Chris
stand.
It
has
a
park,
a
very
nice
park,
it
floods
about
twice
a
year.
L
One
of
the
residents
will
tell
you
that
we
have
a
lot
of
traffic
going
in
and
out
of
that
residential
neighborhood.
Now
you've
got
old
folks,
you've
got
a
lot
of
things.
Miss
bartels
is
going
to
tell
you
about
in
just
a
minute,
but
we
think
the
traffic
study
is
needed.
Now
we
think
the
drainage
is
needed
now.
We
think
this
retention
pond
is
needed
now.
L
Secondly,
if
I've
read
this
correctly
and
I
stand
corrected,
if
I'm
not
reading
it
correctly,
but
the
sewer
sanitarian,
the
board
of
the
city
of
montgomery
has
not
approved
or
signed
off
on
this.
When
you
look
at
your
agenda
and
you've
got
the
five
items
from
the
city
departments
that
say
no
complaints,
no
complaints,
no
complaints.
L
Well,
you
let
us
get
started
and
you
approve
the
final
plan.
How
can
you
deny
that
I
mean
you
did
the
preliminary
plan?
How
can
you
deny
the
final
plan?
So
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
lot
of
procedural
things
that
hasn't
been
done.
It's
been
overlooked,
you've
had
corners
cut.
Secondly,
getting
back
to
this.
L
For
life,
that's
one
of
the
things
I
mentioned
in
my
four
pager.
I
went
down
and
looked
at
this,
you
got
a
1972
plat
and
a
2002
plat
january
10th
of
2002
was
a
preliminary
plot
file
of
the
city
and
I'm
assuming
approved.
I
thank
you,
mr
tyson,
for
mentioning
the
procedural
stuff
there,
but
it's
a
plat
on
record
right
now
with
the
city.
Those
lots
are
hundred
feet.
You
know
how
I
found
that
out.
Mr
kenneth
white
told
our
neighborhood
association
last
tuesday
there's
already
a
preliminary
plat
down
there.
L
L
L
It's
got
a
lot
of
houses
and
lots
on
keeneland
way
right
where
flagstaff,
intersects
kingman-
and
you
can
see
these
big
old
lots
and
you
can
see
the
street
layout
is
nothing
like
what
they've
got
up
there,
which
I'm
assuming
I
don't
know
this.
That's
probably
why
the
sewer
folks
said
this
street
these
streets
don't
line
up
with
this
sewage,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
very
good
legal
reasons.
I'm
gonna
get
to
this
in
a
minute
why
this
should
be
turned
down.
Secondly,
I
asked
a
very
prominent
engineer
in
this
town.
L
I've
probably
talked
to
50
or
100
people
in
the
last
three
weeks
like
y'all.
I
can't
wait
to
this
meeting
to
be
over
and
I
thank
you
for
listening
to
us.
But
back
to
my
story,
I
asked
a
prominent
engineer.
I
said
all
I'm
hearing
is
our
75
r75
r75,
it's
a
no-brainer,
it's
automatic
planning
commission
don't
have
any
choice
if
they
vote
it
down.
It's
still
going
to
be
approved,
and
I
said
well.
Why
are
we
having
this
hearing?
L
Had
the
streets
and
had
all
the
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
now
and
what
they're
doing
is
seeking
to
change
that,
and
I
didn't
realize
that
at
the
time
so,
whether
you
call
this
a
replating
a
rezoning,
I
know
it's,
not
zoning,
we're
not
talking
about
zoning
but
they're,
basically
seeking
to
change
what's
already
out
there
and
in
just
a
minute
when
I
start
talking
the
law
in
these
cases,
this
ain't
a
matter
of
all
the
homeowners
mad
because
you're
going
to
devalue
the
neighborhood,
we
don't
like
it.
We
don't
want
this
change,
it's
something!
L
That's
already
been
filed
of
record
that
people
have
relied
on
and
some
of
these
houses
in
in
plat
17
back
up
to
the
lots
right
here
and
the
plat
that
was
filed
in
the
probate
court
and
that
was
approved.
Show
these
bigger
lots.
So
how
can
you
say
somebody
didn't
realize?
I'm
gonna
have
a
nice
light
behind
me.
L
Secondly,
I've
got
a
real,
real,
interesting
argument
that
I've
never
heard
anybody
say
the
marshall
family
owns
this
property.
They
always
have.
I
called
it
marshall
field.
When
I
was
growing
up,
they
planted
the
19
flats
that
are
counting
downs.
They
developed
county
downs
and
I
thought
to
myself:
why
is
the
marshall
family
fhm
now
or
fmh
whatever?
It
is?
Why
are
they
not
trying
to
do
this
instead
of
a
developer?
Who
hadn't
even
bought
the
property?
Yet
now
don't
get
me
wrong?
The
developer's
entitled
to
do
that.
I
read
the
regs.
L
They
can
do
that,
but
I
got
to
thinking
the
marshals
aren't
standing
up
here
because
they
would
have
a
tough
time
convincing
y'all
to
change
this
whole
dynamic
of
the
subdivision
when
they've
planted
19
different
sections,
100
foot,
lots,
2,
400
foot
houses
and
all
of
that
stuff,
that's
out
there.
I
think
we're
entitled
to
rely
on.
We've
got
a
real
good
neighborhood
for
those
of
you
who
take
the
montgomery
advertiser
on
october
31st.
They
had
a
very
nice
article
in
the
paper
about
county
downs,
and
I
can
promise
you.
L
I
didn't
put
anybody
up
to
that.
Some
realtor
had
done
a
nice
article.
I've
got
a
copy
of
it.
If
you
want
to
see
it,
but
it's
a
well-preserved
neighborhood.
It's
a
very
good
neighborhood.
The
crux
of
our
argument
is
not
that
they're
going
to
ruin
our
neighborhood
but
they're
changing
everything.
That's
already
been
platted
and
filed
with
the
city
and
is
still
on
file,
so
I
don't
think
they
ought
to
be
able
to
do
it.
L
K
K
K
There
were
three
lots
that
the
marshals
I
assume
the
marshals
owned
and
did
not
could
not
sell
because
they
flooded
every
time
it
rained
eventually-
and
I
don't
know
the
process
eventually,
the
city
gave
us
that
section
as
a
park
and
for
them
we
we
are
very
grateful
for
that.
It
has
been
a
treasure
for
our
neighborhood
for
county
downs
for
del
reyda,
for
the
many
people
who
come
and
use
that
park,
it
is
well
used.
K
So
thank
you.
Whoever
now
I'm
also
a
teacher,
I
want
you
to
quit
with
the
numbers.
I
want
you
to
open
your
mind
and
take
a
walk
with
me.
We
only
have
10
minutes
man,
we're
gonna
start
at
holly
brook
and
we're
going
down
to
the
park,
be
careful
because
of
the
35
homes
that
are
on
that
path.
22
of
them
have
to
back
their
cars
out
into
this
road.
K
All
kinds
of
people
are
using.
It
see
that
young
man
who's
limping
along,
he
came
in
a
car
he's
rehabbing
from
having
had
an
accident
in
his
sports
team,
see
those
two
people
over
there
and
they've
got
two
strollers
just
had
brand
new
twin
boys
they're
walking
their
boys
in
the
park
in
order
to
get
there.
They
have
to
cross
this
street
that
doesn't
have
much
more
traffic
a
little
more
traffic.
K
Do
you
see
the
car
sit
standing
in
the
middle
kind
of
of
the
drive
of
the
road
he's
waiting
in
the
middle
of
traffic?
What
is
he
waiting
for?
Well
he's
on
his
way
to
atlanta
highway,
but
his
neighbor
is
coming
home
and
when
there
are
cars
parked
there,
we
can't
both
get
through.
So
we
take
turns
sometimes
they
come
through
and
I
wait
sometimes
I
go
through
and
they
wait
a
common
occurrence,
probably
50
percent
of
the
time.
K
K
K
A
B
B
N
My
name
is
yolanda
watkins
bailey
and
I
live
at
336
citation
drive.
I've
lived
in
montgomery
all
of
my
life
and
since
I
can
remember,
I've
always
adored
county
downs
and
out.
In
the
back
of
my
mind,
I've
always
said
one
day:
I'm
gonna
live
in
county
dallas
well
a
few
years
ago
ago
that
that
that
time
came
back
in
2017..
N
I
chose
county
downs
because
I
wanted
a
neighborhood
that,
like
I
grew
up
in
where
my
son
can
ride
bikes,
he
can
walk
to
friend's
house.
He
can
skate
down
hills.
He
can
also
visit
other
people
when
people
come
to
visit
me
at
my
home
they're
like
oh,
I
didn't
know,
county
downs
had
these
houses
back
here.
I
said
well
because
county
downs
is
the
hidden
gem
of
montgomery
in
county
downs,
fox
hollow
and
watson
circle.
People
are
already
experiencing
flooding
problems.
N
N
On
average,
a
person
leave
their
house
at
least
two
times
per
day,
so
that
is
976
trips
in
one
day.
Just
for
this
proposed
new
neighborhood,
when
we
met
with
the
developers
only
last
on
last
week,
I
asked
him.
No.
I
think
I
implored
upon
him
when
speaking
to
two
developers,
would
he
make
a
requirement
that
the
homes
at
least
be
2
400
square
feet.
His
response
was,
he
will
not
make
that
requirement.
N
He
also
admitted
that
the
marshals
had
given
them
a
plot,
a
plaque
for
our
100
lots,
which
would
be
about
200
homes.
I
asked
why,
wouldn't
they
use
that
his
response
was,
I
can
get
more
houses
out
of
this
200,
well
extra
44
houses
so
and
at
that
meeting
that
told
the
people
at
county
downs
fox,
hollow
watson,
circle
that
whomever
the
development
may
be
they're
going
to
develop
smaller
homes.
N
When
I
purchased
my
house
from
the
mitchells
who
built
the
house,
they
told
me
they
stayed
in
their
house,
they
stayed
in
their
car.
They
spent
the
night
in
their
car
to
get
this
particular
lot.
So
to
me
that
speaks
volume
about
county
downs
itself
because
they
weren't
just
impressed.
They
were
just
that
impressed
with
the
neighborhood,
as
we
see
time
and
time
again,
developers
come
into
in
to
build
homes
and
then
move
on
to
the
next
project,
not
giving
thought
to
the
community.
N
N
If
this
is
going
to
be
an
extension
of
county
downs,
let
it
be
truly
an
extension
of
county
downs.
Those
homes
should
also
carry
the
same
charm
and
exquisite
characteristics
of
the
homes
already
in
county
downs.
If
this
is
not
going
to
be
the
case
as
the
citizens
of
montgomery
and
as
homeowners
in
county
downs,
fox
hollow
watson,
circle
and
belhurst,
we
need
this
commission
to
say
no,
and
we
will
not
let
this
happen
to
our
neighborhoods.
O
O
The
purpose
here
today
is
to
look
at
the
legal
requirements
for
developing
property
and
montgomery
protects
its
citizens
by
doing
several
things,
this
commission,
being
one
of
them
by
doing
zoning,
they
zone
this
property
75s
they
require
plats
to
be
produced.
This
is
a
preliminary
stage.
Mr
dean
would
like
to
turn
the
card
over
and
have
the
end
production
be
done
before
we
bring
to
this
committee.
I
saw
mr
dean's
letter.
O
He
cites
several
regulations,
none
of
which
are
applicable
to
the
situation
he's
asking
for
a
traffic
analysis
which
the
city
has
opined
only
applies
to
puds.
He
has
stated
that
we
need
engineering
which
only
comes
when
we
get
to
the
construction
phase.
Once
we
get
platted,
we
have
to
go
through
zoning.
We
have
to
go
through
construction,
permitting.
Those
issues
will
be
in
the
future.
O
O
O
A
L
L
Secondly,
the
case
law
says
valid
reason:
there's
no
definition
of
valid
reason,
but
what
the
cases
all
come
down
on
is
health
morals,
public
safety,
welfare
of
the
community
stuff,
like
that,
I
have
given
you
a
memo
with
eight
good,
valid
reasons,
including
the
fact
the
plat's
already
out
there.
That
says
something
different.
But
if
you
do
vote
it
down,
here's
where
most
county
commission
planning
commissions
get
messed
up.
L
You
either
vote
it's
a
tie
and
you
do
nothing
well,
it's
automatically
approved
in
30
days
if
you
vote
it
down,
but
you
don't
give
your
reasons
on
the
record
tonight.
It's
going
to
be
approved
in
30
days,
but
you're.
Just
like
a
jury,
you
decide
you
vote.
If
five
of
you
vote
this
plat
down
and
you
state
your
reasons
tonight,
that's
the
final
decision.
I
don't
want
you
to
assume
it's
going
to
be
an
appeal.
L
I
looked,
I
didn't
see,
but
about
three
cases
that
have
ever
been
appealed
and
when
the
dust
get
appealed,
it's
not
somebody
suing
the
city
they're.
Just
asking
the
circuit
judge
to
review
what
you
did.
They
can
ask
the
appellate
courts
to
review
what
you
did.
You
can
vote
it
down
and
give
a
reason
and
by
the
way
the
law
says
you
can
give
as
many
reasons
as
you
want.
Only
one
of
them's
got
to
be
valid,
so
I've
typed
up
eight
of
them
for
you.
I
went
over
there
tonight.
L
L
D
Madame,
madam
chairman,
may
I
say
something:
certainly
you
know
the
gentleman
the
attorney
was
up
there.
He
just
said
this
is
an
emotional
issue.
I
mean
just
kind
of
blew
it
off.
Well,
this
is
just
an
emotional
issue.
We've
got
people
here
who
have
bought
houses
who's
this
going
to
be
their
last
house
because
they're
retirees,
you
know
it's
not
just
an
emotional
issue.
Please
don't
please
don't
minimize
it
like
that.
I
mean
that's,
that's
totally
disrespected
you
know,
there's
and
there's
something
else.
There
is.
D
There
there's
something
else:
there's
the
letter
of
the
law
and
then
there's
the
spirit
of
the
law,
and
I
think
the
spirit
of
the
law
is
being
ignored
tonight,
because
these
are
concerns.
These
are
serious
concerns
and
and
and
all
we're
talking
about
that
all
you're
talking
about
is
75
feet
houses.
You
know
whatever
75
feet
out
there,
no
matter
everything
else.
You
know
just
come,
come
to
these
people
and
try
to
get
a
get
a
meeting
of
the
minds
of
these
issues.
D
These
are
serious
issues
with
them,
whether
it's
drainage,
whether
it's
traffic,
whether
it's
the
park,
you
know
people
going
down
the
street.
You
know
these
are
serious
things.
I
know
you
want
to
take
care
of
this
and
go
on
to
the
next
project
and-
and
you
know
let
these
people
take
care
of
that
mess
you
know
later
on.
But,
madam
chairman,
that's
all
I
want
to
say
thank.
C
I
H
H
D
L
L
If
you
vote
to
approve
it,
it's
approved,
no
reason
has
to
be
given.
If
you
vote
it
down,
you
have
to
state
your
reason
on
the
record
here
at
the
meeting
tonight.
One
person's
of
the
opinion
has
got
to
be
in
writing.
I'm
of
the
opinion
you
can
orally
state
it
because
we're
being
filmed
there's
a
nice
little
video
of
this,
but
you
have
to
give
a
reason
why
you're
denying
it
I
had.
One
attorney
tell
me
you
to
be
safe.
L
You
need
to
make
a
motion
to
deny
it
or
disapprove
or
vote
down
the
plat
whatever
you
call
it
a
second,
a
discussion.
If
you
want,
then
you
vote
and
if
you
vote
to
deny
it
somebody
has
to
say:
okay,
the
reason
is
this
and
I
suggest
you
give
a
lot
of
reasons
because,
if
there's
an
appeal,
if
just
one
of
those
reasons
is
valid,
it's
going
to
be
upheld,
that's
what
I'm
asking
you
to
do.
A
C
A
A
A
A
M
D
D
A
D
M
D
Well,
I
I
I
met
with
some
with
some
people
in
thornton,
trace
and
breckenridge,
and
and
they
had
no
idea,
they
had
no
idea
what
was
coming
and
the
and
the
main
concern
was
the
the
houses.
That's
right
off
your
area,
they're,
second
story
houses
and
the
second
story.
Houses,
look
right
down
on
top
of
where
your,
where
your
rvs
and
and
trailers
and
boats
are
going
to
be,
and
they
were
not
aware
of
that.
D
M
M
Right,
nothing
what
we
agreed
with
them
and
what
they
their
concern
was
they
wanted
our
units
in
back
to
face
no
doors
facing
their
property.
So
we
turn
so
we're
going
to
build
the
line
where
it'll
be
a
blank
wall
facing
their
property
and
also
what
we're
going
to
do.
They
want
us
to
take
down
the
trees
because
they
didn't
like
the
trees,
because
they're
popcorn
trees,
so
we
agreed
to
take
all
the
trees
down
and
then
put
new
landscaping
in.
M
D
D
M
D
G
G
You
know
there
you
can
see
there
actually
is
the
corner
with
deer,
creek
and,
of
course,
their
their
shrubbery
is
kind
of
in
that
that
gray,
grayson
grove
street.
You
can't
see
either
direction.
It's
so
overgrown
with
the
berm
and
the
shrubs
that
they've
put
in
when
that
property
was
done,
and
so
you
know
with
the
melrose
folks.
G
We
met
with
them
last
month
out
here
in
the
lobby
and
actually
continue
the
conversation
after
the
building
closed
on
the
on
the
curb,
and
then
that
was
a
thursday
and
then
the
monday
we
invited
them
all
out
to
the
property,
and
it
was
dinner
time,
so
we
invited
them
out
and
fed
them
and
their
children
and
asked
their
hoa
they've
actually
had
two
hoas
during
this
process.
The
developer
had
one
they've
exited
since
our
last
gathering
and
the
new
companies
hoa
of
alabama.
G
All
of
that
on
the
east
half
of
the
property,
which
is
the
issue
they
intended
to
put
in
four
office
buildings,
which
would
be
eight
offices
with
parking,
and
that's
why
I
got
the
office,
one
designation,
which
is
different,
and
so
what
we've
asked
to
do
is
to
have
the
b2
qualified,
be
unified
across
the
property,
with
the
same
restrictions
that
are
that
are
already
in
place
on
the
west
side,
and
that
includes
a
vegetative
barrier
and
to
your
question
of
sight
lines.
You
know
the
things
you
do
to
minimize
that.
G
Are
you
obviously
going
to
build
in
a
fortress
style
right?
So
you
know
basically
walls
facing
out
it's
kind
of
like
a
muffler
deals
with
sight
lines,
noise
light.
All
of
that
obviously-
and
it's
in
the
current
restrictions
on
the
front
half
and
we're
asking
to
extend
it
across
the
whole
thing.
You
have
to
have
a
10
foot
vegetative
barrier.
That
goes
the
whole
way
and
in
fact,
we're
not
just
going
to
do
it
for
the
neighbors
on
the
north
and
the
east
side,
we're
going
to
bring
it
down
the
wisdom.
G
G
We
have
since
learned
that
we
thought
we
were
talking
to
the
neighbors
before
that
meeting,
and
you
know,
there's
all
the
emails
and
phone
calls
to
show
that,
but
it
wasn't
being
communicated
to
the
residents
the
new
association
came
in
and
that's
how
we
frankly
met
them
here
at
the
last
planning
commission
meeting,
and
that
was
the
hoa
alabama
folks
that
they
are
now
the
hoa
for
melrose,
and
so
we
have
met
with
them.
Had
a
phone
call
call
with
them
again.
G
D
G
Right
now
we're
asking
to
unify
the
whole
thing,
and
so
it
would
all
be
b2
so
yeah.
So
so
then
there
used
to
be
a
pond
in
that
northwest
corner
that
was
filled
in
so
we'll
be
digging
that
back
out
and
it'll
actually
become
a
pond
again
yeah.
We
can't
build
on
top
of
a
filled
in
pond.
Obviously
it
won't
work
so
we're
behind
that
and
that
will
be
kind
of
the
closest
to
ray
thorington
facade
that
you
would
see
you'll
be
to
the.
G
Well,
yeah,
I
mean
it's
yeah,
it's
kind
of
to
the
east
of
where
that
pond
was
in
the
corner.
You
kind
of
see
where
it's
a
different
color
in
that
northwest
corner.
It
would
be
where
the
house
used
to
be.
That's
now
gone
that
driveway
went
to
it
basically
right
on
top
of
where
you
see
that
driveway
ending
would
be
where
the
the
front
building
would
be
in
terms
of
frontage.
D
G
D
D
D
G
G
G
B
G
D
M
M
D
M
Of
that
right,
the
reason
that
rv's
got
to
be
inside
now
is
get
the
insurance
industry
now
has
said.
If
you
have
rvs
like
the
big
45
footers
million
dollar
ones,
you
can't
leave
them
outside
when
they're
stored
because
they
won't
be
covered
for
hail
damage.
That's
why
the
whole
train
is
going
to
recover
and
that's
what
we've
done
in
the
past
gotcha,
okay,.
A
P
C
E
R
H
C
C
Jim
henry,
I
guess
I'm
representing
the
people
that
live
across
the
road
and
also
properties
that
are
owned
by
my
family
and
a
bunch
of
other
people.
A
mile
to
the
east
and
south
of
hyundai
boulevard,
an
800
acre
or
less
mega
industrial
certified
make
industrial
site
which
goodwin
mills
by
the
way
did
the
work
for
us.
So
I
just
want
to
welcome
them
to
the
neighborhood,
we're
very
happy
that
this
is
coming
in.
It's
a
to
my
knowledge,
an
asset
to
the
possibility
of
having
greater
things
happening
across
there.
C
R
R
I
do
want
to
thank
you
all
as
a
board
or
commission
or
whatever
you
all
are
for
having
the
foresight
to
get
this
business
to
come
to
our
area.
This
is
what
I
guess:
we'd
call
a
clean
business
they're
not
going
to
have
anything
going
to
be
messing
up
any
sewers,
it
won't
smell
bad
or
we
just
want
to
welcome
to
the
community.
R
One
thing
that
I
don't
know
how
to.
I
guess
this
is
a
place
to
say
this,
but
whenever
all
the
negotiations
were
going
on
a
guy
named
david
garrett,
good
friend
of
ours,
he's
back
here,
he
said
they
were
always
kind
to
him
and
kept
him
all
informed
on
everything
that
was
going
on.
He
dealt
with
alpha
he's
a
person
that
owned
this,
especially
jimmy
parnell,
he's
a
cattleman
just
like
I
am,
and
one
of
the
things
that
jimmy
told
me
was.
He
said
you
get.
R
So
amazon
cut
the
deal
off
here
in
montgomery
which
what
I
thought
was
a
very
strategic
move
for
them
to
do.
So,
if
y'all
gonna
do
that,
we
just
gonna
pull
out
alabama,
but
when
the
vote
came,
then
the
thing
came
back
in,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
especially
jimmy
parnell
for
being
kind
to
another
cattlemen
like
me,
and
appreciate
what
y'all
are
doing
for
our
community.
R
A
C
A
C
E
There
are
going
to
be
major
improvements
to
wasde
road
and
there's
going
to
be
improvements
made
at
highway
31
that
will
involve
aldot,
so
the
the
traffic
situation
is
being
addressed.
If
the
gentleman
would
like
to
come
back
come
by
and
see
me
I'll,
be
glad
to
show
them
the
plans,
but
they
will
be
accessing
from
both
directions
with
major
improvements
to
wasden
road.
E
The
and
I'm
going
by
memory,
sir,
the
the
improvements
are
going
to
get
to
the
point
where
they
can
get
in
and
out,
such
as
d-cell
lanes
and
acceleration
lanes
and
stuff
like
that
to
keep
the
flow
on
washington
road
without
impeding
it
and
it
it.
It
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
a
major
improvement
from
from
wiser
road,
at
least
to
the
entrance
to
the.
E
C
E
C
M
M
A
A
C
Of
jeffcoat
engineers
and
surveyors,
this
is
the
simplest
of
a
replay
whereby
one
owner
what
it
is
whereby
one
owner
owns
two
adjacent
lots
and
wants
to
build
straddling
one
of
the
property
lines
and
according
to
all
reasonable
regulations
and
so
forth,
you
need
to
plant
it
into
one
lot
and
that's.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
it
buildable.
As
one
lot
appreciate
your
vote,
I
hope
it's
affirmative.
C
B
J
Good
evening,
blake
rice
with
barrett
simpson
engineering
for
any
of
you
that
are
familiar
with
lanier
lane,
it's
a
project
that
was
done
a
few
years
ago,
a
number
of
income
restricted
rental
units
right
there
off
of
liberty
street.
This
is
essentially
a
second
phase
of
that
project
with
the
same
type
of
developers.
P
I
did
a
letter
for
each
of
you
all
I
passed
it.
I
see
an
arrow
there,
but
I'm
writing
to
express
our
strong
opposition
to
this
project
due
to
the
fact
number
one
anybody
I
didn't
know
about
it.
If
y'all
hadn't
even
put
the
signage
up,
we
wouldn't
even
know
this
was
happening.
The
houses
that
are
have
been
built
initially
were
leased
to
own.
P
P
We
are
also
opposed
because
it
will
cause
traffic
and
safety
problems
and
create
more
problems
for
the
school
down
the
street,
as
well
as
a
lanier
high
school,
which
is
already
overcapacitated
right
now,
potentially
we'll
lower
our
property
value
already
on
assessors
right
anyway.
So
that's
another
issue:
the
safety
of
the
children
walking
back
and
forth
to
school.
We
have
liquor
stores
that
we
didn't
want
there
anyway.
P
P
However,
some
of
my
older
elderly
residents,
who
have
been
there
longer
than
I've,
been
alive,
hadn't
even
heard
that
this
project
was
coming,
and
I
think
that
is
a
direct
insult
to
those
individuals
who
have
been
in
that
community
on
those
streets.
Since
they
used
to
have
whales.
They
told
me
whales
were
on
the
street,
so
that's
how
old
our
community
residents
are
and
for
these
developers
to
come
in
and
not
talk
to
the
community
or
put
flyers
or
postcards
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
to
meet
us
to
see
what
our
opinions
are.
P
I
think
that's
a
direct
slap
in
the
face
because
we
have
a
voice
too,
and
we
just
don't
want
any
more
congestion
right
there,
because
between
rush
hour
in
the
afternoons,
we
already
don't
have
a
turn
signal
as
you're
going
to
edie
nixon
to
west
fairview
avenue,
it's
no
turn
signal.
So
it's
really
bad
with
that
liquor
store
right
there,
the
liquor
store
by
o'reilly's,
which
is
a
package
or
whatever,
but
on
the
weekends.
It's
horrible
trying
to
you
know
just
to
get
into
your
community.
P
P
C
Okay,
now
isn't
there
a
development
right
across
the
street
from
this
one
that
is
already
a
development
right
across
the
street
from
where
this
one
is
requesting
that
it's
all
for
seniors?
Also,
you
asked
me
yeah
yeah,
they
already
put
it
up,
so
you
can't
uphold
something:
yeah,
there's
one
right
across
streets
under
the
development
now.
C
P
Yeah
they're
flat
and
they're,
almost
complete.
We
haven't
seen
any
renderings
or
anything
about
what
is
to
come
and
what
their
plans
are.
You
just
don't
invade.
In
a
historic
community
and
alone,
our
residents
are
lone
living
lasting
residents
there
so
to
invade
our
community
and
not
have
any
discussions.
P
The
boundaries
it
goes
from
start
on,
rosa
parks,
ed
nixon,
go
all
the
way
down
two
ways:
now:
new
fred
d
gray,
but
on
fred
d,
gray,
boulevard,
which
was
west
jeff
davis,
but
on
the
left
on
the
left
hand,
side
going
down
rosa
parks,
you
go
all
the
way
down
past
the
fire
station
to
cleveland
court.
Then
you
get
into
the
nixon
times.
P
C
C
P
Yes,
and
so
we
they're
stable,
though
now,
but
we
saw
a
lot
the
first
two
years.
We
saw
a
lot
of
in
and
out
trying
to
get
back
with
the
owners,
but
it's
hard
when
the
owners
aren't
in
montgomery
then,
like
the
management
people
are
in
birmingham
and
they
used
to
keep
line
up
but
they're
doing
better.
Now,
because
we
had
to
make
complaints
to
the
management
company.
So
we
don't
need
another,
any
other
issues
that
we
have
and
to
try
to
find
people
who
are
not
in
montgomery.
D
D
You
mentioned
earlier
that
it's
a
historic
area
and
then
you
also
mentioned
that
there's
liquor
stores
on
one
end
one,
and
then
it's
horrible
on
the
weekend.
How
do
you,
how
do
you
bring
those
two
things
together?
How
do
I
bring
them
together?
Yeah
you're,
saying
it's
horrible
at
one
minute
because
of
the
two
liquor
stores
in
I.
P
P
P
P
D
P
P
Well,
we
don't
want
it
because
they're
putting
us
seniors
is
if
this
is
the
empty
lot
that
I'm
talking
about.
They
put
the
senior
homes
across
the
street
on
edie
nixon
next
to
the
near
lanier
football
field.
Y'all
can
imagine
what
that
is.
They
have
already
started
some
senior
facilities
there.
We
have
a
rosa
park
senior
facility.
P
If
you
go
up
down
rosa
parks
right
across
the
street
from
rep
former
representative.
They
have
mclammy's
home
because
we
do
the
annual
senior
events
over
there.
We
already
have
a
number
of
senior
facilities
there
and
what
happens
is
the
seniors?
Just
don't
live
there?
Their
grandchildren
come
in
and
live
with
them
and
you're
getting
into.
P
A
P
K
P
A
community
you
would
know
when
it's
senior
facilities,
it's
not
upper
echelon,
senior
facilities,
where
it's
only
seniors
it's
because
of
the
impoverished,
seniors,
grandchildren
and
relatives
who
live
in
their
facilities,
that
their
traffic
is
in
and
out,
and
that
it's
not
only
seniors.
So
if
you
haven't
been
to
rosa
park
or
park
out
there
to
see
that
senior
facility,
you
don't
know
what
goes
on
about
the
in
and
out
traffic
and
unwanted
visitors
who
come
out
there.
We
don't
want
our
community
with
a
multi.
P
P
Me
off,
I
got
you
we'll
be
back
and
we'll
have
the
news
too,
because
you
don't
brush
all
no
ma'am.
I
was
asking
historical
questions.
No,
I
have
a
question
for
y'all.
Why
y'all
brushing
off
a
historical
commission,
a
historical
community?
We
don't
want
that
to
change.
We
don't
want
the
way
that
our
community
is
set
up.
The
look
of
it
to
set
up
with
all
this
extra.
No,
we
don't
want
that.
We
already
have
a
time
when
we
say
we
don't
want
unwanted
convenience
stores
and
package
stores
there
and
title
pawn
shop.
P
It
takes
away
from
our
community
and
that's
what
I'm
saying
if
you're
not
out
there,
mr
reed,
if
you're
not
out
there
miss
clementine
anybody
else,
you
don't
understand
how
we
value
our
community
and
just
like
y'all,
giving
the
east
side
attention
and
letting
them
talk
all
night
I'll,
be
back
with
the
whole
community
and
we
gonna
talk
all
night.
Thank
you.
M
It's
it's
high
crime
area
for
one
major
drugs,
major
and
my
most,
I
guess
my
main
concern
is
for
those
seniors
that
you're
trying
to
put
there.
I'm
thinking,
you're
gonna,
put
seniors
right
there.
Every
time
they
come
out
to
go
somewhere,
I
mean,
and
I'm
looking
at
troye
street
auburn
street
and
I'm
going
down
the
list.
M
S
My
mother
has
been
a
resident
of
lincoln
street
for
over
50
years,
she's
now
86.
My
concern,
as
just
stated,
would
be
for
the
senior
safety.
I
know
there
are
homes
that
were
recently
built
for
seniors.
I
don't
know
if
seniors
have
taken
ownership
of
those
homes
yet,
but
I
think
to
put
apartments
or
a
unit
of
apartments
or
buildings
for
seniors
might
not
be
the
right
thing
for,
for
that
area.
Like
the
gentleman
stated,
the
area
there
is
lincoln
street
liberty
street
elm
craig.
S
S
The
area
that
I
think
the
developers
are
talking
about
is
the
old
and
near
court.
They
have
already
brought
some
of
the
homes
and
I
don't
think
those
homes
are
seniors
homes.
I
think
they're
family
homes
they
have
brought
that
through
that
area
from
the
outside.
Looking
in
because
I
don't
live
in
alabama
now,
but
with
the
families
being
there,
I
personally
haven't
seen
any
disturbances.
S
S
Lincoln
street
is
a
dead
end,
a
lot
of
times.
I
see
cars
come
up.
They
speed
up
speed
up
the
street,
they
turn
around
when
they
see
that
it's
a
dead
end.
I
don't
know
if
the
developers
are
intending
to
open
up
lincoln
street,
but
I
think
that
would
be
a
major
disaster
because
we
already
have
problems.
S
There's
only
a
few
residents
still
there
on
lincoln
street
and
all
of
them
are
elderly,
they're,
elderly,
but
they
really
care
about
their
communities
and
all
of
them
at
one
time,
including
my
mother,
used
to
attend
all
of
the
meetings,
but
due
to
health
reasons,
she
can't
anymore
there's
a
constant
problem
with
keeping
that
street
clean
every
every
single
time
I
come
home.
I
have
to
call
3-1-1.
S
I
send
emails
and
texts
to
council
member
mcinnis,
the
grass
right
now.
I
could
show
you
pictures
on
my
phone
that
is
about
as
tall
as
me.
They
shouldn't
have
to
live
like
this.
They
still
love
the
their
community,
so
I
think
more
emphasis
need
to
be
put
on
where
they
are
and
trying
to
keep
them
safe
and
at
least
let
them
live
with
some
dignity
in
the
areas
that
they
live
in
and
put
some
emphasis
on
cleaning
up
the
environment.
S
A
Q
Q
Q
Q
Disturbing
you
know,
alabama's
is
a
very
lucrative
state,
very
beautiful
state
and
I'm
very
proud
of
it,
and
it's
heartbreaking
to
see
the
things
that
are
happening
also.
I
agree
with
ms
dockling
and
the
young
lady
that
was
here
about
the
traffic
that
street
does
not
need
to
be
open.
I
think
it
will
just
invite
more
drug
trafficking,
maybe
human
trafficking,
more
violence.
Q
Q
A
better
living
standard,
my
grandmother
was
92
years
old.
I
I
had
to
come
back
home
and
take
care
of
her
after
my
mom
passed
and
it's
just
heartbreaking
that
right
next
to
her
house,
it's
it
hasn't
been
cleaned
up.
It's
just
full
of
debris.
A
tree
fell
down,
they
came
out
cut.
The
limbs
left
the
trunk
of
the
tree
right
in
the
little
walkway.
You
know,
and
it's
it's
just
it's
very
heartbreaking
to
see
all
this
happening
and
for
having
a
senior
citizen
home
there.
Q
Q
If
it
was
a
place
where
hopefully
respectable
people
are
living
there,
it
may
be
a
good
idea,
but
if
it's
that
type
of
environment
where
the
seniors
are
impoverished
and
the
children
are
still
relying
on
their
parents-
and
you
know
living
there
and
then
have
the
audacity
to
sell
drugs
out
of
their,
you
know
grandparents,
home
it's,
it's
gonna,
be
a
problem
and
it's
already
a
problem
on
khan
street.
Behind
our
street
multiple
gun
shopping.
Q
You
know
gunshot
rounds
that
I'm
hearing
it
was
so
bad
one
night
until
I
had
to
go
and
tell
my
grandmother
to
lay
down
on
the
bed
straight.
I
couldn't
get
her
down
off
her
bed.
I
was
literally
crawling
and-
and
I
called
9-1-1
and
told
them-
there's
multiple
gunshots.
It's
like
I'm
in
a
war
zone.
Please
send
police,
but
please
tell
them
to
be
heavily
armed
and
wearing
protection.
Q
C
M
J
J
This
is
the
first
step
into
redevelopment
of
an
area
when
we
start
worrying
about
the
safety
of
people,
because
someone's
trying
to
develop
into
an
area
that
that
concerns
me
for
a
lot
of
reasons
when
you're
trying
to
redevelop
an
area
like
this.
This
is
the
first
step
of
it.
So
this
is
a
private
non-profit
entity
that
I've
been
involved
with
for
many
years,
we've
done.
Elderly
we've
done
family.
J
You
heard
the
young
lady
mention
a
few
minutes
ago
that
lanier
is
well
maintained
and
well
cared
for
and
that
that's
because
there's
private
management
companies
there
and
it's
being
taken
care
of
as
far
as
an
elderly
project
goes
like
this.
We've
also
done
standalone
elderly
we've
done
duplex,
elderly
flats
and
elderly,
but
this
this
area
is
really
more
leaning
towards
and
a
single
building,
partly
because
of
the
safety
issue.
So
a
project
like
this
is,
you
know,
heavily
secure.
J
J
The
private
management
company
takes
great
pains
and
effort
to
vet
each
and
every
resident
there,
and
then
once
they
become
a
resident,
they
are
managed
and
watched
for
the
exact
reason
that
a
couple
of
people
mentioned
earlier,
which
is
the
tendency
for
additional
generations
to
to
come.
They
can
visit,
they
can
stay
overnight,
but
that's
really
the
limit
of
it
and
any
any
overnight
stays
essentially
have
to
be
like
registered
with
the
management
company.
J
These
are
all
things
that
I've
heard
on
a
fairly
regular
basis
in
a
lot
of
municipalities
that
we've
done
this
in
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
four
or
five
years
into
a
project
like
this,
it's
100
occupancy,
it's
beautiful,
it's
well
maintained.
The
property
itself
doesn't
do
anything
to
cause
any
problems
to
the
community.
J
It's
very
welcomed
and
we
get
most
cities
saying.
Can
we
do
another?
One
of
those
this
gives
a
place
for
elderly
people
to
live
in
a
very
safe
and
nice
facility.
As
far
as
traffic
goes,
we
alabama
housing
finance
authority
has
some
minimum
traffic
regulations
as
well
as
most
each
municipality
does
as
well.
J
Hfa's
requirement
is
one
and
a
half
spaces
per
unit.
What
we
typically
see
in
municipalities
that
don't
have
any
additional
requirement
over
that
is.
We
provide
the
one
and
a
half
spaces
per
unit
and
less
than
50
percent
of
the
of
the
residents
there
drive
a
lot
of
these
residents
are
when
they
come
into
this
facility.
They're
no
longer
in
one
of
our
you
know,
flat
facilities
where
they're
caring
for
their
own
yard
or
anything
like
that.
J
They're
there
it's
a
it's
a
place:
it's
not
a
nursing
home,
but
it's
a
place
where
they
can
have
their
own
sense
of
community
and
have
their
own
integrity
without
having
to
worry
about
maintaining
the
exterior
of
their
home
or
cutting
grass,
or
anything
like
that.
A
lot
of
these
a
lot
of
these
residents
just
do
not
drive.
We.
We
don't
see
any
traffic
problems
out
of
this.
M
Well,
we
had
some
young
people
sunday
night
they
jumped
out
of
car
with
some
ar-15s
from
ak-47s
and
three
people
got
shot.
Think
one
died,
that's
two
blocks
away
from
that
facility
and
you
come
on
a
three-story
facility.
Yeah
I
mean
that's.
My
biggest
concern
is
that
we
kind
of
stick
some
elderly
people
pretty
much
in
the
heart
of
the
battleground.
H
M
M
M
C
I
I
These
residents
had
been
changed
at
one
point
you
couldn't
build
you
could.
The
loss
was
too
small
to
build
back
the
same
type
house
that
was
up
there
before
you
had
to
build
the
same
little
shotgun,
and
I
concur,
I
believe,
in
the
sister
thomas
and,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
now
a
state
comment
was
made
that
older
folks
don't
drive,
you're
right
old
folks,
do
not
drive,
but
older
folks
have
family.
I
They
have
to
drive
them
to
the
doctor
or
folks
have
to
come
into
these
places
where
you
want
multiple
units
and
these
muslims
you're
going
to
create
traffic.
Just
like
young.
Ladies
just
stated
the
liquor
stores
and
all
this
other
stuff.
It's
it
was
there
already,
but
you're
going
to
have
more
traffic.
You're
gonna.
Have
you
you're
gonna
have
you're
gonna
have
problems
if
your
physique
could
put
back
up
there.
I
could
picture
that
that
the
we're
speaking
of
will
back
up
that
you
don't
move
to
now.
I
I
What
are
you
going
to
do
for
the
south
side?
Well
lincoln
street?
What's
up
stops
right
there,
where
you
want
to
put
these
apartments
there,
what
you
going
to
do
back
to
the
side
on
the
south
side?
Are
you
any
money
coming
from
this
project
going
to
benefit
the
area?
What
is
mrs
thomas
said?
Y'all
her
mother,
I've
been
there
40
years,
she's
been
there
longer
than
I
have
I've
been
here
40
years
ago.
I
Now
she
can't
even
get
around
she's
having
problems.
You
know
on
one
side
of
the
street
old
nickel
street
house
was
burnt
down.
They
got
big
unlocked
you
can't
even
get
in
there.
I
can't
even
get
into
my
life
because
there's
no
driveway
there,
they
built
it
up,
65
feet,
high
off
the
ground
and
then
put
well.
It
was
three
houses
supposed
to
be
there.
Four.
They
only
got
one
driveway.
I
I
If
you
open
up
ministry,
they
gonna
fly
out
to
down
industry,
and
I
heard
one
council
say
that
they
weren't
gonna
open
up
lincoln
street
and
that's
good,
but
still
our
monthly
family
apartments
we
ought
to.
If
we're
gonna
do
that
we
ought
to
have
that
money,
and
I
can
understand
that
they'll.
They
want
to
make
a
book,
but
I
heard
someone
say
it's
going
to
be
non-profit.
I
Nothing
probably
don't
mean
that
they're
going
to
not
somebody's
not
going
to
get
paid.
What
you're
going
to
put
on
the
outside
whether
it
be
need
this
revenue.
Are
you
gonna
help
us
over
there,
because
it's
gonna
disrupt
our
neighborhood
with
all
these
other
people
coming
in?
That's
all
I
wanna
know
anything.
Gonna
come
from
that's
development
to
help
us
to
come.
Keep
up
in
the
neighborhood,
because
it's
all
about
neighborhoods,
staying
keeping
up
their
own
neighborhood
and
stay
in
our
position.
R
People
are
in
the
line
of
fire
every
day,
so
wouldn't
they
be
more
safer
behind
a
guarded
fence
with
cameras
and
in
a
newer
facility,
then
like
her
mom,
she
was
able
to
to
help
her
mom
and
and
hold
her
and
duck
her,
but
it's
elderly
people
just
by
themselves.
So
what
about
I
mean?
What
about
those
people
and
they'll
have
neighbors
they'll
be
able
to
you
know,
because
their
neighborhoods
down
where
they
can't
communicate
with
anybody?
They
can't
pretty
much
go
outside
they're
prisoners
in
their
homes.
R
R
E
The
next
item
is
presented
by
mahesha
patel
and
raktuvi
mattel,
representing
the
same
request
to
rezone
one
parcel
of
land
containing
19.21
acres
located
on
the
east
side
of
taylor.
Road
approximately
2
600
feet
north
of
troy
highway
from
ag
one
residential
agricultural
to
zoning
district
to
r50,
which
is
single-family
residential
zoning
district.
F
I'm
kenneth
white
representing
mr
mr
patel,
here
it's
james
red.
This
is
approximately
19-acre
track
on
the
east
side
of
taylor,
road
kind
of
due
north
of
the
construction
site-
that's
underway
right
now
that
property
is
actually
zone
rf50
as
well,
and
you
know
we're
requesting
this
to
be
from
ag
to
r50.
F
B
F
C
F
C
F
C
F
A
challenge:
it's
a
challenge,
mr
reeve,
I
mean
they
have
controlled
access
on
taylor,
road,
so
the
property
to
the
left.
We
position
the
entrance
across
from
the
median
and
there's
no
other
meetings
you
get
to
hampstead.
If
you
look
at
hampstead,
they
use
one,
but
they
have
such
a
wide
piece
of
property.
So
they're.