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From YouTube: Expecting the Unexpected
Description
This session was held Aug. 6, 2017 at NCSL's 2017 Legislative Summit in Boston.
A sudden special session, protesters at the capitol, a natural disaster or security threats—legislative staff are on the front line when the unexpected happens. Hear from colleagues in various roles about how they prepared for, dealt with or found solutions for unexpected situations.
A
A
A
Today,
we'll
hear
about
some
real
events
and
learn
how
staff
prepared
for
dealt
with
or
found
solutions
for
unexpected
situations
and
I'm
going
to
start
off
with
a
little
bit
about
myself.
I've
done
public
relations,
crisis
management
in
my
private
life
for
about
20
years,
and
when
I
got
elected
to
the
legislature,
I
found
that
those
skills
were
actually
quite
transferable.
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Do
we
have
the
slide,
am
I
supposed
to
do
something
here,
anyway,
I
have
been
doing
a
crisis
management
and
there
are
just
a
couple
of
fundamental
principles
that
that
I
want
to
just
kind
of
set.
This
set
the
stage
for
here
we've
all
seen
this
cartoon
I'm
sure
the
famous
Gary
Larson
cartoon
I
have
it
on
a
copy
cup.
That's
a
crisis
clinic
on
fire
headed
down
a
waterfall
and
one
of
the
first
fundamentals
of
crisis
management
or
anything
unexpected
is
to
properly
identify
the
crisis.
A
For
example,
if
there's
somebody
in
the
crisis
clinic,
that's
obviously
your
your
main
crisis
that
you
need
to
get
a
team
together
and
deal
with
as
soon
as
as
soon
as
possible.
That's
your
first
priority,
however,
if
there's
nobody
in
the
clinic
and
there's
an
investor
who's
who's
just
on
the
verge
of
signing
papers
for
another
crisis
clinic
you'll
probably
want
to
reach
out
to
that
person
very
quickly,
because
one
of
the
fundamentals
of
crisis
management
or
any
unexpected
event
is
to
tell
your
own
story
to
get
out
there.
A
So
the
other
elements
that
quickly-
and
this
is
part
of
a
two-hour
workshop
I
give
so
I'll
be
very
brief,
but
you
really
need
to
focus
on
getting
a
good
story
and
then
telling
it
and
getting
out
there
with
communication
communication
is
is
key
and
you
know
when
it
comes
to
identifying
a
crisis.
You
may
have
a
situation
where
you
know
maybe
there's
a
scandal
or
something
happens
in
your
building.
If
you
properly
identify
it,
you
may
decide
that
you
know
it
could
be
any
number
of
crises.
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A
So
our
first
speaker
is
Anthony
Steve
Pike
colonel
Pike
was
appointed
as
chief
of
the
Commonwealth
of
Virginia
division
of
capital
police
in
Richmond
on
October
10th
2011.
As
chief,
he
is
responsible
for
the
division,
sworn
and
support
personnel
serving
the
capital
community
of
the
legislative
executive
and
judicial
branches
of
Virginia's
government,
its
employees
and
visitors.
Prior
to
his
appointment.
He
served
as
the
assistant
chief
for
the
division
of
capital
police,
Colonel
Pike,
a
native
of
White's
County
y-wis
County
I
pronounced
his
name,
but
not
his
County
began.
A
His
law
enforcement
career
in
1988,
Colonel
Pike
served
in
the
United
States
Army
and
was
elected
as
the
honor
graduate
after
attending
the
basic
noncommissioned
officer
course.
Colonel
Pike
is
a
graduate
of
the
227th
session
of
the
FBI
National
Academy,
the
64th
session
of
the
FBI
law
enforcement
executive
development
seminar,
Northwestern
University
for
Public
Safety
executive
management
program
and
the
Common
Wealth
Management
Institute
welcome
Colonel
pike.
B
Emotions
can
pull
over
and
these
can
occur
in
tight
places
and
spaces
within
your
complex
and
trying
to
be
open
and
communicate
with
your
visitors
and
staff
have
a
lot
of
pre-planning
communication
up
front
with
the
leadership
and
legislative
members
to
make
sure
that
if
something
occurs,
that
everybody's
on
the
same
sheet
of
music
and
kind
of
deal
with
those
scenarios
as
they
unfold.
But
we,
when
we
have
groups
of
folks,
come
to
our
Capitol,
we
usually
reach
out
to
them,
especially
if
they
get
a
permit
to
have
a
protest.
B
We
try
to
reach
out
to
them
several
days,
if
not
a
week
before
their
event,
we
sit
down
with
the
grief
leaders
which
we
go
through.
The
rules
and
the
do's
and
don'ts
of
the
complex
try
to
be
open,
transparent.
A
lot
of
people
have
never
been
there
before
and
ever
had
a
permit
for
a
demonstration
try
to
work
through
those
to
alleviate
any
matters
that
may
arise,
but
and
sometimes
again,
when
you
have
large
crowds,
500,000
people,
emotions
can
get
carried
away
back
in
2012.
B
We
had
a
lot
of
demonstrations
at
our
Capitol,
not
unlike
what
happens
in
your
states
at
your
Capitol
complexes,
and
we
have
a
section
that
you're
allowed
to
protest
in
you're
not
allowed
to
be
on
our
portico
of
our
Capitol,
which
happened
this
day
and
as
a
result
of
permit
violations
and
so
forth.
We
ended
up
arresting
a
number
of
people
and
so
an
issue
that
came
out
of
this.
B
His
link
to
the
article
and
the
message
that
I
purportedly
sent
to
the
prosecutor
was
we're
getting
clobbered
in
the
court
of
public
perception.
Let's
end
all
this
and
drop
the
charges.
Of
course,
I
did
not
send
this
email,
so
the
prosecutor
responded
back
to
this
email
and,
of
course,
I've
got
that
response
back
and
when
I
saw
it.
I
thought
what
in
the
world
is
going
on.
B
I
didn't
didn't
send
this
email,
so
I
immediately
picked
up
the
phone
and
called
him,
and-
and
it
was
unfortunate
that
the
cyber
is
something
that
you
should
expect
is
a
potential
issue
that
comes
up
when,
when
you
may
have
a
massive
rest
or
other
events
that
happen
at
your
complex.
So
we
pursue
this
as
a
result
of
this
email
that
went,
and
so
it's
just
something
that
I
learned
and
I
try
to
prepare
my
staff
and
the
legislative
staff
that
when
you
have
high-profile
events
or
legislation,
that's
very
contentious
or
draws
large
crowds.
B
This
is
one
one
of
the
expect,
the
unexpected
that
happened
to
me
that
I'll
share
with
people
that
there's
not
a
leadership
book
that
you
can
pull
off
the
shelf
to
deal
with
this
and
I
talked
real
quickly.
The
canine
there
in
the
in
the
images
is
when
I
have
three
explosive
bomb
dogs
that
dog
there's
named
Spike
he'd,
been
with
our
organization
low.
B
Over
two
years
he
had
been
with
the
Marine
Corps
and
served
in
the
Marine
Corps
ever
in
Afghanistan
is
a
explosive
detection
dog
one
morning,
I
came
into
the
office
and
and
I
got
a
phone
call
about
a
mother
in
Louisiana
who
was
desperately
trying
to
locate
this
dog
for
her
son
who's.
Jared
honey
he's
kneeling
down.
B
Jared
had
been
the
Marine
who
had
been
assigned
to
spike
his
whole
time
when
he
was
in
the
Marine,
Corps
and
honor
their
last
missions.
They
did
encounter
an
AED,
an
explosion
that
occurred.
They
got
separated
and
Jared
had
been
hospitalized.
The
dog
had
taken
away
and
as
a
result
that
he
was
told
that,
upon
his
release
from
the
hospital
and
discharged
from
the
Marine
Corps,
he
would
be
able
to
get
his
beloved
dog
back.
That
he'd
had
sense
of
puppy
through
the
training.
B
But
that
didn't
happen,
and
when
he
tried
to
locate
the
dog,
they
were
not
telling
what
law-enforcement
agency
was
in
possession
of
spike
and
his
mother
reached
out
through
Facebook
and
so
for
me.
I
had
a
k-9
handler
Laura
Taylor,
who
had
been
partners
with
this
dog
for
over
two
years,
and
so
we
had
a
reunion
on
the
steps
of
our
Capitol
I
made
a
very
tough
decision,
but
the
right
decision
to
retire
spike
and
in
sending
back
with
the
marine.
So
it
was
a.
It
was
a
tough
day.
B
If
you
remember,
the
Secretary
of
Health
and
Human
Services
was
from
DC
was
down
at
their
Capitol
and
I
was
having
a
press
conference,
and
there
was
a
reporter
that
was
asking
a
lot
of
questions
and
and
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
happened,
but
the
reporter
was
arrested,
and
during
the
night
this
went
viral
over
the
Internet
and
the
next
morning
my
secretary
came
in.
My
inbox
was
filled
up
with
emails,
I'm,
the
chief
of
Virginia,
and
these
were
angry
at
West
Virginia.
B
So
I
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
emails
from
upset
citizens
from
across
the
United
States
about
me,
arresting
the
reporter,
which
we
didn't
do,
and
so
it
was
something
that
took
my
staff.
Off-Guard
I
did
have
one
very,
very
horrible
voicemail
that
was
left
for
all
my
Secretary's
phone.
That
would
be
horrible
if
I
played
it.
So
just
preparing
your
staffers
things
like
this.
That
can
happen,
and
people
were
so
emotional
over
that
issue.
B
So
the
real
problem
we
had
was
a
lot
of
medical
issues
that
arose
out
of
this.
So
you
know
we
think
about
the
physical
planning
that
we
go
through
thinking
about
protests
and
everything's,
but
you
have
medical
calls
that
need
to
be
thought
about
through
your
planning.
So
you
know
my
takeaway
to
all
this
is
plan
a
lot
upfront
I
always
tell
my
staff
when
I
have
them
involved.
We
take
time
after
these
events
to
debrief
from
the
lowest
level
all
the
way
up.
We
bring
everybody
in
the
room.
B
We
talk
through
the
event,
because
I
tell
my
staff
I,
take
defeats
or
deficiencies
as
victories,
because
it
allows
us
when
we
plan
for
the
next
event
to
succeed
and
do
them
much
better
than
the
previous
one.
So
that's
just
a
small
best
practice
that
we
do
in
our
capital.
So
thank
you
for
having
the
opportunity
to
speak.
Thank.
A
Our
next
speaker
is
Peter
Capri
Leone
peter
has
been
with
the
North
Carolina
General
Assembly,
since
October
of
86
before
his
employment
with
NC
GA.
He
worked
with
public
systems
associates
from
1983
until
1986
Peter
became
the
information
systems
division
director
in
May
of
2017.
Before
that
he
was
the
infrastructure
manager
and
business
applications
manager
and
served
as
the
IT
staff
member
for
legislative
committees.
He
received
his
BA
in
political
science
from
the
University
of
Minnesota
and
his
MA
from
North
Carolina,
State
University,
so
welcome
Peter
Thank.
C
C
Of
course,
are
we
ready
well
session?
We
better
be
ready
for
regular
session
for
special
sessions
and
special
sessions
and
special
sessions,
and
we
have
a
special
session
in
a
December
of
2016.
So
that
was
how
much
fun
we
had
last
year
and
of
course,
redistricting
I
think
there
was
a
redistricting
session
right
down
the
hall.
C
We
started
redistricting
in
2011
and
G.
Lo
and
behold
we're
going
to
be
doing
it
again
in
2017
and
we
did
it
in
2016.
We
thought
legislature
thought
we
were
going
to
have
a
chance
to
get
it
done
by
November
15th.
The
courts
had
a
different
idea
and
we
now
going
to
be
ready
to
have
our
plans
drawn
by
September
1.
Well,
it
was
Ben
Franklin
who
said
our
new
constitution
is
now
established
and
has
an
appearance
that
promises
permanency,
but
in
this
world
nothing
can
be
said
to
be
certain
except
death
and
taxes.
C
C
Don't
think
that
his
wife
was
actually
expecting
that
to
happen
when
they
went
to
that
hotel
for
the
winter.
Are
you
really
ready?
Well
cyberattacks
virus
attacks?
As
we
all
know,
denial
of
services
can
hit
your
your
computer
center.
You
can't
get
information
in
and
out.
You
need
to
be
ready.
You
need
to
have
your
perimeter
protections
in
place.
C
Ransomware,
as
we
all
know,
is
the
wanna
cry
that
came
out
a
few
months
ago
that
hit-the
hit-the
Europe
hospitals
and
data
centers
over
there.
We
were
lucky
in
the
United
States.
It
didn't
really
happen
is
bad
there,
but
with
ransomware,
of
course,
as
you
all
know,
they
lock
your
files
and
then
they
say
for
like
mow.
A
few
hundred
bucks
or
a
couple
thousand
dollars
will
give
you
that
key
to
get
your
files
back.
C
We
are
ready.
Well,
we
have
great
plans
we're
going
to
do
Windows
10
in
office
20
2016
and
deploy
those
this
year,
a
new
phone
upgrade
new
emergency
notification
system.
All
these
great
great
ideas-
and
we
have
our
plan-
set
we're
going
to
start
them.
October
1st,
wait
by
going
into
session
can't
do
it
then
well
we're
going
to
do
it
will
hold
off
will
do
it
will
start
in
September
yeah
I
can't
do
that
either.
C
C
You've
got
you've
got
to
be
prepared.
You've
got
to
be
ready
to
expect
that
things
are
going
to
happen,
that
you're
going
to
get
called
by
the
governor
to
come
back
into
session
or
they'll
call
themselves
back
into
session,
and
you
might
have
a
special
session
run
after
one
right
after
another,
or
you
can
be
drawing
districts
for
the
House
and
Senate
in
September.
Oh
and
of
course,
if
you're
on
across
days,
that
would
be
a
little
expected.
Unexpected
can't
be
ready
things.
You
can't
be
ready
for
things.
C
You
just
don't
think
are
going
to
happen.
Like
someone
at
11:45
at
night,
during
a
budget
session,
get
a
phone
call
see
the
voting
system
isn't
working
right.
The
PC
at
the
speaker's
podium
is
off
well.
How
in
the
heck,
can
that
be
it's
put
away?
You
really
only
can
shut
it
off
if
the
power
goes
off
or
if
you
press
the
off
button,
you
don't
know
what
happened
but
11:45
at
night.
C
We
get
a
call
over
there
and
we've
got
to
get
this
thing
back
up
and
running
so
you're
standing
in
front
of
120
legislators.
That's
really
fun
their
staff
media.
You
know
because
it's
a
two-day
reading
for
the
budget
bill,
so
they're
going
to
get
it
done
right
before
midnight
dinner
to
come
back
at
12:05
and
pass
it
great.
So
you
get
the
sense
to
back
up
everybody's
asking
you
what's
going
to
happen
and
you're
just
saying.
C
Well,
you
know
I
just
can't
tell
you
what
happened
but
we'll
get
her
back
and
then
you
find
out.
Thank
God.
I
didn't
have
the
votes
and
they
adjourned.
We
were
saved
or
they're
going
to
tell
you
that
they're
going
to
shut
down
the
power
in
your
building,
because
the
breaker
went
bad
and
your
emergency
power
actually
goes
through
the
same
break
core,
so
you're
not
going
to
have
any
power
for
your
data
center
secondary
data
center,
that's
across
the
street,
so
you
do
all
this
planning.
C
You
say:
okay,
it's
going
to
go
off
at
8
o'clock!
Well,
how
long
are
you
going
to
be
you're
going
to
be
down?
How
long
is
the
building
gonna
be
without
power?
Well,
yeah.
We
really
can't
tell
you
that.
Okay,
that's
really
good,
so
we
figured
okay,
we're
going
to
shut
our
systems
down
you
just
can't
like
shut
off.
You
shut
up
a
laptop
or
a
PC.
You
got
to
bring
the
system
down
gentle,
so
you
can
actually
bring
it
back.
So
these
folks
can
work
again.
We
had
it
all
planned
I
tell
them.
C
Okay,
we're
going
to
shut
it
down
about
7:00
7:15
takes
about
an
hour.
We
negotiated
some
time
off
some
time
to
get
the
building
shutdown
lengthened
or
shortened
a
bit.
Well,
I
get
a
call
about
6:30
at
night
yeah.
We
can't
send
email-
oh
really!
Well.
My
guys
had
decided
to
shut
the
system
down
a
little
bit
earlier
than
anticipated,
I'm
thinking.
Okay,
that's
really
great!
We'll
just
bring
that
thing
back
up,
not
a
big
deal.
Then!
Oh
crap,
we
can't
print
oops.
Well,
our
lone
print
server
was
located
in
that
Dana
Center
data
center.
C
Well
long
story
short.
We
did
get
it
up
and,
as
it
turned
out
on
our
backup
battery
system
for
that
data
center,
we
had
three
minutes
left
when
the
building
power
came
back
on,
it
only
lasted
15
minutes
we
wouldn't
of
had
to
do
anything,
but
we
expected
to
be
down
longer.
Unexpectedly,
we
shut
the
system
down
sooner
than
we
should
have
thank
God
everything
worked
out
subpoenas
yeah.
Well,
you
know
they're
going
to
come
in
in
public
records,
requests
or
subpoenas
for
for
various
things.
C
You
expect
them,
but
what
you
don't
expect
is
a
vast
amount
of
data
that
they
asked
for
and
the
event,
and
we
have
a
ton
of
it
as
you
can
imagine
and
or
who
they're
going
to
want
that
data
from
so
you
have
to
be
ready
for
it.
Your
team
has
to
have
the
proper
tools
in
place
for
it.
Your
test
at
has
to
be
skilled,
and
you
have
to
go
through,
of
course,
all
the
redactions
and
all
the
confidentiality
that
can't
be
released.
C
Well,
we
have
precautions
in
place
where,
if
you
don't
press
this
button,
nothing
can
be
heard
and
we
made
sure
that,
because
we
cut
some
wires
that
were
in
a
room
and
we
made
sure
stuff
didn't
happen,
but
our
press
room
they
wanted
to
hear
it
live
because
their
internet
people
is
delayed
by
maybe
10
seconds
or
so,
and
we
said
well,
you
know
now
you
thats
not
going
to
happen
so
we're
going
to
cut
all
those
wires.
You
can
listen
on
it
on
the
internet,
like
everybody
else
can
you're
not
that
special.
C
Well,
we
wanted
the
chair
of
that.
Well,
the
caucus
chair
said
so
Peter.
You
swear
on
your
mother's
life
that
nothing
can
be
heard
on
here,
because
I
had
to
use
the
mics
to
speak
to
a
large
room
and
a
lot
of
people
in
the
room.
I
said
I
know
you
one
better.
My
mom's
dead
I
can
swear
on
a
grave
nothing's
going
to
happen.
C
I
get
back
to
my
office,
not
more
than
10
minutes
later,
a
reporter
from
the
press,
room
tweeted,
something
or
Facebook
that
whatever
she
did
came
right
out
of
that
caucus
room.
Oh
my
god!
Well
you
couldn't
see
anybody
pack
up
their
office
faster
than
me.
I
was
nervous
as
heck.
Well
as
it
turned
out
long
story
again
short
is
that
there
was
a
wire
that
was
run
a
hot
wire
from
that
room
across
the
street
to
the
press.
Room
in
1983
I
had
no
clue.
You
know
we
did
right
after
that.
C
C
A
Thank
you.
Our
final
speaker
today
is
Raoul.
Burciaga
Raoul
worked
for
15
years
in
the
administration
of
federal
health
care
programs
opting
for
a
new
career.
He
attended
the
University
of
New
Mexico
School
of
Law
and
upon
graduation
joined
the
New
Mexico
Legislative
Council
service
as
a
staff
attorney
in
July
2000.
He
served
as
the
assistant
director
for
drafting
services
from
2004
until
2010
when
he
became
director
as
legislative
counsel
service.
Director
Burciaga
has
primary
responsibility
for
administration
of
the
office,
the
nonpartisan
drafting
legal
and
research
agency
of
the
New
Mexico
legislature.
A
Additionally,
he
is
responsible
for
the
control
care,
custody
and
maintenance
of
the
State
Capitol
Capitol
North
Capitol,
sparking
structure
and
grounds
Burciaga
has
been
active
with
NCSL
since
2001
and
is
currently
the
staff
chair
of
NC
s,
l's
executive
committee
and
legislative
staff.
Coordinating
Committee
welcome
ro.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
You
senator
so
in
New
Mexico
we
have
well
I,
guess
you
can
call
it
open,
carry
which
means
that
there
are
no
licensing
or
training
requirements.
If
somebody
wants
to
carry
a
weapon
and
then
in
2003
New
Mexico
passed
concealed
carry
law
which
allowed
people
over
the
age
of
21
to
carry
loaded
concealed
handguns
if
they
take
a
training
course
and
pass
criminal
background
check
and
concealed
carry
does
not
apply
to
the
schools
or
the
courts,
but
people
can
concealed
carry
into
the
State
Capitol.
D
So
about
ten
years
later,
2012
13
and
14
a
number
of
legislators
really
felt
like
they
wanted
to
ban
or
limit
weapons
from
the
Capitol.
But
none
of
those
efforts
were
successful.
There
were
a
lot
of
protests
during
that
time.
They
were
both
in
favor
and
in
opposition
to
the
proposed
legislation
to
ban
or
limit
weapons,
and
as
I
mentioned
well
I
haven't
mentioned.
The
New
Mexico
Capitol
is
open
in
the
broadest
sense
of
the
word.
We
don't
have
any
metal
detectors.
We
do
not
have
armed
guards
or
law
enforcement.
D
The
only
exception
is
that
during
session,
the
State
Police
are
there
and
they
have
jurisdiction
over
the
Capitol
in
the
event
of
emergency.
We
have
them
there
almost
24
hours
a
day,
but
our
sessions
are
short
60
days
or
30
days,
so
the
rest
of
the
year.
We
do
not
have
law
enforcement
or
armed
guards,
and
there
is
no
rule,
no
policy
and
no
law
against
carrying
weapons
in
the
State
Capitol.
D
So
with
few
exceptions,
there's
easy
access
to
the
legislators
to
their
offices
committee
rooms,
the
galleries
above
and
the
area
immediately
adjacent
to
the
House
and
Senate
chambers.
So,
with
the
efforts
to
try
to
limit
or
ban
weapons,
we
had
a
lot
of
protesters
show
up
at
the
Capitol
and
they
were
well
armed.
Open,
carry
concealed
carry
long
weapons,
it
was
quite
a
spectacle
and
it
really
scared
the
heck
out
of
a
lot
of
people.
Legislators,
staff,
constituents,
children
other
protesters.
It
was
my
worst
nightmare
that
we
would
have
a
problem.
D
Something
would
happen:
tempers
got
out
of
hand,
people
would
carry
guns
inside
the
Capitol,
they
would
sit
in
the
House
or
Senate
in
the
galleries
above
the
House
or
Senate
chambers.
They
were
in
committee
rooms
and
they
often
were
lined
up
waiting
to
get
inside
either
the
gallery
or
one
of
the
committee
rooms.
Additionally,
there
was
a
large
number
of
protesters
roaming
around
the
perimeter
of
the
Capitol.
It's
an
open
concourse
that
completely
circles
what
we
call
the
round
house,
because
our
Capitol
is
shaped
like
like
a
round
building.
D
It
is
a
realm
building
within
hours.
People
were
streaming
into
my
office
because,
as
as
the
senator
mentioned,
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
delegated
to
me
is
the
care,
custody
and
maintenance
of
the
State
Capitol,
and
they
told
me
I
had
to
do
something
about
this.
Unfortunately,
I
can't
take
you
in
a
little
at
unilateral
action.
I
couldn't
just
ban
them.
I
keep
them
out.
That
really
is
up
to
the
legislature
itself
or
the
Legislative
Council.
D
D
It
made
a
difference
it
made.
Some
people
feel
a
little
bit
better
that
people
were
not
toting
these
long
long
guns
and
everyone
agreed
nobody
objected
or
refused
to
comply
with
it.
So
it
worked
fairly
well
now
we,
the
other
thing
we
did,
is
that
we
already
had
a
fairly
sophisticated
surveillance
system
and
our
security
staff
and
State
Police
watched
very
closely.
From
numerous
vantage
points.
D
So
really
it
was
more
of
an
effort
to
find
a
compromise
and
an
absolute
yes,
you
can
or
no
you
can't
approach.
We
had.
We
have
a
similar
situation
with
when
we
have
protests
we
allow
them
to
protest
anywhere
outside
on
the
concourse
as
long
as
they
let
us
know,
and
as
long
as
they
keep
the
the
entrance
entrance
or
exit
to
the
Capitol
open
and
people
agree.
D
Now
a
lot
of
what
like
to
carry
signs
and
we
tell
them,
you
can
carry
signs
outside,
but
you
can't
bring
them
inside
and
again
surprisingly,
the
people
oblige,
and
once
in
a
while
they'll
ask
why
and
we
just
say:
well,
we
want
you
to
make
sure
you
don't
that
nobody
tries
to
pull
that
out
of
your
hands,
use
it
as
a
weapon
plus
they
can
block
the
cameras
that
we
have
the
security
cameras,
and
surprisingly
people
said
okay
and
they
left
them
outside
and
I.
Guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is
that
it
was.
D
It
was
an
effort
to
find
some
little
compromise.
It's
a
minor
thing.
We
have
a
beautiful
Capitol
in
New
Mexico.
We
have
a
lot
of
art
inside
of
it
and
it's
open.
As
I
said
no
metal
detectors.
People
can
come
in
and
out
as
they
like,
but
it
was
just
talking
to
the
protesters
and
making
sure
that
our
guards
and
State
Police
were
aware
of
what
was
happening
and
it
actually
worked
quite
well.
D
We
also
had
one
incident
where
a
gentleman
came
and
was
carrying
some
weapons,
but
also
a
camera
and
he'd
proceeded
to
record
whatever
happened
to
him
as
he
walked
in.
Of
course,
we
were
a
little
concerned
because
usually-
and
there
was
no
session
during
this
time-
it
was
during
the
summer
he
walked
in
with
a
gun
and
a
camera,
and
so
he's
taking
a
picture
of
everybody
who's
coming
up
and
asking
what
he's
doing
we
did
not
have
the
State
Police
there
at
the
time
it
was
just
our
security
staff.
D
D
He
took
a
he
recorded
on
his
phone,
what
happened
to
him
and
then
he
posted
it
on
YouTube
and
actually
got
a
little
bit
of
national
attention
of
him
walking
around
the
Capitol
with
his
guns,
but
we
were
very
respectful.
We
had
our
cameras,
we
were
watching
him,
everybody
was
alerted
and
things
things
were
fine.
So
the
other
thing
we've
done
and
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
there
is
a
lot
of
passion
when
it
comes
to
some
issues.
D
Obviously,
a
gun
legislation
is
a
big
one.
Excuse
me,
but
we've
had
other
types
of
bills
that
have
open,
have
brought
out
a
lot
of
people.
Obviously
something
like
the
death
penalty.
The
death
penalty
was
repealed
in
New
Mexico
in
the
early
2000s,
and
we
had
a
large
number
of
protesters
throughout
the
Capitol.
Nobody
was
carrying
guns,
but
but
that
we
knew
of.
But
if
that
wasn't
the
issue
and
things
things
work
well,
we
were
able
to
respond
to
it.
We
had
problems
with
when
the
there
was
a
bill
to
outlaw
cockfighting.
D
Had
the
the
the
people
on
the
pro
side
on
one
entrance
to
the
chambers,
those
in
in
opposition,
those
in
support
in
one
place,
those
in
opposition
another
place
and
each
one
they
just
took,
turns
talking
and
it
worked
out.
So
we've
continued.
It
and
I
want
to
be
emphasized
what
was
said
earlier.
A
lot
of
this
is
about
communication
and
understanding
that
allowed
us
to
to
tame
things
down
a
little
bit.
If
you
will
we've
continued
to
improve
our
surveillance
system,
we
have
now
done
a
lot
of
active
shooter
training
for
legislative
staff.
D
We
do
tabletop
exercises
with
first
responders
from
numerous
entities,
our
security
guards,
State
Police,
local
police,
the
Sheriff's
Fire
Department
health
department's
paramedics,
hospitals,
emergency
rooms
to
walk
through
the
process
of
what
needs
to
be
done
in
an
emergency
in
a
life
or
safety
situation,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
this
is
really
about
establishing
relationships
with
all
of
these
people.
I've
taken
a
couple
of
FEMA
courses,
so
I
and
I
passed
them.
So
I
know
what
I'm
supposed
to
do
if
something
happens,
but
the
first
thing
is
I
know
I'm
not
in
charge.
D
D
It's
not
what
you
know
that
should
scare
you
it's
what
you
don't
know.
So
it's
important
for
you
to
know
what
your
plan
is
in
the
case
of
an
emergency
know
with
whom
to
train
and
coordinate,
know
what
your
buildings,
safety
procedures
are
review;
videos
that
are
developed
by
safety
agencies,
public
safety
agencies,
that
provide
advice
and
recommendations
for
emergency
situations
basically
be
ready.
We
have
panic
buttons.
We
also
have
a
notification
system
for
text,
email
or
phones
in
case
of
any
kind
of
emergency,
and
that
has
worked
really
well,
except
when
we
tested
it.
A
D
So
when
the
text
went
out,
fortunately
was
not
during
session,
but
when
the
text
went
out,
that
said,
please
evacuate
the
building
immediately,
everybody
did.
It
was
kind
of
fun.
It
was
kind
of
funny
people
got
a
break
for
about
15-20
minutes
as
everybody
scattered
and
was
wondering
what
the
heck
is
going
on.
But
again
it
was
just.
It
was
just
a
test.
D
The
last
thing
I'll
mention
is
that
we've
had
a
couple
of
other
situations
that
did
involve
any
kind
of
violence,
but
in
one
case
we
had
a
pipe
that
was
exposed
on
the
roof,
and
this
was
in
the
middle
of
December.
It
got
incredibly
cold
and
the
pipe
burst
and
let
water
throughout
the
building
from
it's
only
a
four
story
building,
but
it
just
went
everywhere,
and
so
we
we
were
able
to
evacuate
and
get
that
taken
care
of
another
time.
We
had
a
special
session
coming
up
for
capital
outlay.
D
It
was
simply
for
capital
outlay.
There
was
only
one
bill
that
was
going
to
be
considered
and
everybody
was
expecting
that
we
would
be
done
in
one
day
and
we
were
there.
We
were
ready.
All
of
the
bills
had
been
drafted,
they
had
been
printed,
it
was
about
nine
o'clock.
In
the
morning
the
session
was
going
to
start.
The
special
session
was
going
to
start
at
12
noon
and
at
9:05
the
lights
went
out
and
you
well.
D
We
have
some
your
urgency
lighting
in
the
hallways
and
the
public
areas
and
certain
areas
because
of
the
the
Rotunda
is
fairly
well
lit.
People
could
get
around,
but
I
immediately
had
the
Senate,
Majority
Leader
call
me
and
say
what's
going
on
and
he
was
on
his
way
in,
but
he
had
just
heard
about
the
power
failure
and
I
said
we
have
already
contacted
state
printing.
We
have
some
some
of
our
IT
equipment
on
the
backup
generator.
We
can
keep
going
possibly
for
18
hours.
D
If
we
need
to
we
contacted
State,
printing
by
printing
the
bills,
amendments
or
the
like.
We
have
computers
on
battery
power,
we're
ready
to
go
I
said,
and
there
is
enough
lighting
in
the
Chamber's
to
keep
going,
and
maybe
a
couple
of
committee
rules,
but
what
I
will
tell
you
is
that
most
of
the
offices
or
pitchblack,
because
we
don't
have
light
and
a
lot
of
the
offices
are
without
windows
and
I
said
so
a
lot
of
the
offices
cannot
be
used.
He
said,
that's
a
good
thing,
that's
ok!
D
Fortunately,
the
power
came
back
on.
It
was
a
transformer
that
had
gone
down.
Power
came
back
on
and
we
were
ready,
but
it
really
has
been
in
our
office
about
just
simply
being
ready
and
taking
the
time
to
do
this.
In
fact,
when
I
return,
I
go
back
to
the
office
on
Monday
and
Tuesday
we're
having
an
off-site
training
session
that
will
involve
a
number
of
first
responders
from
around
Santa
Fe,
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
ready
if
we
have
an
emergency.
D
A
And
and
thank
you
to
our
panel
I
went
as
I
was
listening
to
New
Mexico
I
thought
this
is
Oregon,
except
in
Oregon.
We
in
our
capital
people
can
open,
carry
loaded,
long
guns,
ar-15s
and
the
like
if
they
have
a
concealed
handgun
license.
Ironically
enough,
so
we've
had
to
deal
with
that
and
probably
more
distressing
in
many
ways
where
some
of
the
demonstrations
that
we
had
that
didn't
involve
firearms
that
were
very
disruptive
in
the
gallery.
People
acting
very
threatening,
even
though
they
weren't
armed
and
in
Oregon.
A
We
used
every
time,
something
like
that
happens,
a
major
event
we
get
together
with
the
state
police
and
with
the
building
management
and
with
our
lawyers
and
our
HR
people,
and
really
try
to
figure
out
how
we
can
learn.
As
as
we
go
down
the
road
in
the
Senate.
Now
we
have
a
protocol.
If
things
reach
a
point
in
the
in
the
gallery,
where
we
feel
that
there
are
threats,
we
have
a
protocol
where
to
go
at
what
point
to
leave
who
communicates
with
with
both
the
caucuses
etc.
A
B
They
have
a
assessment
team
that
you
can
bring
in
and
they'll
do
this
assessment
of
your
facilities
and
what's
great
about
that,
as
we
did
the
assessment
of
our
capital
security
assessment,
they
compared
our
capital
at
the
time
against
nine
other
capitals.
In
the
for
security
reasons,
they
don't
reveal
who
the
other
capitals
are.
But
it
gives
you
a
good
starting
point
to
see
where
your
your
security
measures
are
doing.
An
assessment
of
your
facilities
is
very
important,
but
one
of
the
other
opportunities
we
had
working
with
them.
B
They
brought
in
a
very
nice
camera
system,
32
megapixel
system,
and
we
were
able
to
get
through
our
facilities
and
map
out
via
video,
the
floor
plans
of
the
facilities
and
match
that
to
the
floor
plans
for
the
Capitol
and
what
that
allows
us
to
do
is
first
responders
whether
it
be
an
active
shooter,
it
could
be
a
fire.
It
could
be
a
structure
collapse
any
of
those
type
events.
It
allows
the
first
responder,
who
may
have
never
been
in
your
building
to
pull
up
the
floor
plans
on
a
tablet
that
we
provide.
B
You
see
the
floor
plan
and
their
small
red
dots
that
locate
and
that's
where
the
video
links
are.
So
when
you
click
on
the
video
link,
it
brings
up
the
image
of
the
space
that
you're
getting
ready
to
go
into,
and
so
it's
it's
a
very
useful
tool.
That's
again,
it's
free!
So
if
anybody's
interested
in
that
and
can
get
with
me
after
the
presentation
and
kind
of
kind
of
help,
you
point
you
in
the
direction
to
do
that.
But
that's
that's
something
I
think
is
very
important.
We
did
our
capital
Supreme
Court,
governor's
mansion.
D
Again,
a
lot
has
to
do
with
coordination
and
communication
and
I
have
one
individual
in
our
office,
who
is
pretty
much
responsible
for
coordinating
a
lot
of
this
activity?
It's
not
one
of
the
security
guards,
it's
actually
one
of
the
assistant
directors
in
my
office,
but
he
has
training
as
a
first
responder
as
a
paramedic,
and
he
thinks
very
well
in
this
respect.
D
He
has
a
nice
checklist
that
he
has
about
what
has
to
be
done,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
put
together
is
to
make
sure
that
not
all
of
us
are
in
the
same
place,
because
there
has
to
be
somebody
from
building
service
to
know
where
the
powerpoint
on,
where
the
switches
are
for
light
gas,
water.
Whatever
it
be,
we
have
there's
a
radio
in
my
office
where
I
would
communicate
with
emergency
responders.
D
We
have,
he
would
be
at
one
location.
That
would
be
another
location,
and
one
thing
that
we
make
sure
is
that
especially
well.
This
really
only
happens
during
session,
the
State
Police
who
have
jurisdiction
during
that
time,
or
in
case
of
an
emergency
they're
off-site
and
so
they're,
not
inside
the
building.
There
are
police
at
our
State
Police,
making
their
rounds
throughout
the
building,
but
the
command
center
is
away
from
there
it's
in
close
vicinity.
D
We
don't
tell
anybody
where
it
is,
there's
just
very
few
of
us
who
know
where
it
is
and
that's
the
communication
center
so
having
that
kind
of
preparation
walking
through
it
at
the
beginning
of
every
single
session
and
then
maybe
having
a
test
run
a
month
or
two
before
sessions
like
I,
said
a
tabletop
exercise
that
has
really
gone
a
long
way
to
making
me
and
a
lot
of
other
people
feel
a
little
bit
better.
So
it's
that
kind
of
preparation,
great.