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Policy experts from the NCSL Education Program answer questions regarding the COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on education across the country. April 21, 2020.
A
A
I'm.
Just
as
a
reminder.
Please
join
us
by
video
rather
than
by
phone,
if
at
all
possible
and
be
sure
to
add
your
full
name
to
your
tile,
and
you
can
do
that
by
clicking
in
the
upper
right
hand
corner
of
your
tile
clicking
on
the
dots.
This
will
help
everyone
see
who
you
are
and
so
that
we
can
have
a
more
personable
meeting
and
we
can
also
ensure
some
privacy
and
protection
in
the
same
meeting.
A
You
can
also
virtually
raise
your
hand
to
to
be
recognized
or,
as
I
said,
you
can
type
your
questions
in
the
chat
box
on
the
right
side
of
your
screen
and
also
please
don't
share
your
screen
just
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
all
focused
in
the
right
place
and
under
the
right
circumstances
and
again.
This
is
also
for
privacy
concerns
as
well,
and
just
a
reminder
that
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
that
all
of
the
meetings
are
are
archived
and
the
slides
and
other
materials
are
also
posted
on
our
NZSL.
A
We
have
joining
us
today,
Ashley
Wallace
who's,
a
program
director
who
oversees
our
work
on
after-school
summer,
learning,
social-emotional
learning
and
school
mental
health,
and
then
we
have
our
post-secondary
education
team
who
is
Sonny
DEA
in
the
who
is
a
program
director.
We
have
Andrew
Smalley
and
Marilyn
Villalobos,
who
also
work
with
Sonny
and
the
post-secondary
team,
and
then
we
have
our
federal
affairs
team
who
focused
on
education,
I'm,
Austin,
Reed
and
Jocelyn
Socorro.
So
please
help
me
welcome
those
folks
and
they
will
be
answering
your
questions
as
we
proceed
today.
A
So
with
that
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
and
I'm
gonna
stop
sharing
my
screen,
so
we
can
all
see
each
other,
and
we
certainly
encourage
you
to
ask
your
questions.
As
I
said,
you
can
either
post
them
in
the
chat
box
or
you
can
open
up
your
line.
So
I
would
just
invite
anyone
who
has
an
immediate
question.
Please
open
up
your
line
and
let's
get
started,
and
please
identify
yourself
as
you're
opening
up
your
line.
Let
us
know
I'm
who
you
are
and
what
state
you're
from.
A
You
do
have
a
question:
that's
been
typed
into
the
chat
box.
Is
there
any
clarity
yet
on
maintenance
of
efforts?
This
is
one
of
the
questions
I
had
written
down
at
the
top
of
my
list
to
ask
to
mention
that
we're
getting
a
lot
of
questions
about
so
Austin
and
I
think
this
first
question
is
to
you
yeah.
B
No
clarity
yet
from
the
department
timeline
for
guidance
on
all
the
different
funds.
Actually,
as
of
an
hour
ago,
they
released
the
remaining
higher
ed
funds
that
are
allocated
for
institutional
uses,
so
that
came
out
today
we're
expecting
the
k-12
funds
will
be
available
on
Thursday
that
and
that
there
might
be
some
additional
there's
a
one
percent
set
aside
from
the
Secretary's
use
that
might
come
out
on
Monday
there.
All
this,
we
haven't
had
any
clarification
on
a
maintance
of
effort.
B
Yet
what
I
can
say
at
least
here
is
that
we
are
NCSL-
is
collaborating
with
the
national
government
Governors
Association
over
to
discussions
with
the
department
as
to
what
this
would
look
like
and
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
provide
you
all
with
some
more
information
on
those
efforts
in
an
offline
conversation.
So
I
can
put
my
email
address
in
the
chat
box
and
for
those
of
you
that
are
interested.
I
could
put
you
on
an
email
about
those
discussions.
A
As
a
follow-up
question
to
that,
Austin
I've
had
some
folks
ask
me
about
NCS,
l's
partnership
and
the
extent
to
which
we
partner
with
either
CCSSO
or
nga
or
now,
as
being
what
that
looks
like.
So
maybe
you
could
share
a
little
bit
of
information
around
the
way
you
guys
collaborate
and
how
specifically
you've
been
collaborating
around
this
yeah.
B
That's
a
good
question,
and
it
you
know
collaborations
on
a
sort
of
case
by
case
basis,
but
I
mean
generally.
The
the
advantage
of
collaboration
is
that
when
we
work
in
concert
with
other
groups,
particularly
around
you
know,
interests
that
are
relevant
to
both
of
the
one
or
more
of
those
groups
that
when
we
advocate
for
our
needs
on
either
in
either
Congress
or
the
administration,
that
those
messages
are
received
more
strongly
when
they
are
coming
from
multiple
organizations.
B
So
just
to
give
you
a
quick
example,
should
we
collaborate
with
the
National
Governors
as
well
as
our
maintenance
of
effort?
Massive
effort
is
obviously
something
that
affects
state
budgets
and
the
two
primary
stakeholders,
for
that
would
be,
of
course,
the
national
of
the
state
legislatures
and
and
the
governor's
who
have
some
say
over
the
budgets.
And
so
should
we
explore
public
action
on
the
maintenance
of
effort
provision
with
the
Department
of
Education,
having
both
the
National
Governors,
Association
and
NCSL,
that
letter
being
that
they
are.
The
two
primary
stakeholders
would
project
the
most
strength.
B
You
know
I
think
in
in
usual
times,
I
think
we
can
all
these
groups
all
these
stakeholder
groups,
CCSSO
the
National,
School
Boards
you
and
then
CSL.
We
all
have
I
think
the
general
generally
similar
interests
and
aims
in
in
advocating
for
education.
I
think
in
this
context,
be
a
day
that
we're
asking
for
funding
I
think
sometimes
we
all
may
be
generally
aligned,
but
maybe
not
specifically
aligned
on
specific
items.
A
A
B
Yet
that
we
that
we
can
be
clear
on
the
cares,
Act
specifically
says
that
the
money
for
k-12
education
will
flow
through
the
State
Education
Agency,
which
is
the
float
the
pass
through
for
federal,
k12
funds
of
an
in
normal
circumstances,
and
so
that
is
the
pass-through
entity.
Of
course,
ninety
percent
of
those
funds
go
directly
to
districts,
and
so
it's
more
in
a
certain
sense,
they're
just
a
stopping
point.
B
They
do
have
the
potential
to
set
aside
some
of
those
funds
for
statewide
activities,
but
in
essence,
these
these
dollars
are
flowing
from
the
federal
government
directly
to
school
districts,
provided
once
we
know
what
the
department's
guidance
is
on,
how
those
funds
can
be
used.
But
for
the
most
part
this
is
going
to
states
and
specifically
to
school
districts.
A
Okay,
well,
I'm
gonna
pose
some
questions
that
we
have
been
receiving
and
answer
them
for
all
of
you.
So
you
have
this
information
I
received
in
question
about
whether
or
not
distance
learning
and
the
way
they
were
going
about
it
in
New,
Hampshire
was
unique
to
New,
Hampshire
and
because
I
think
there
was
some
sort
of
indication
that
might
be
true,
and
the
way
it
was
described
to
me
was
very
similar
to
what
I'm
hearing
is
happening
in
school
districts
across
the
country.
A
So
the
answer
is
that
most
school
districts
and
most
schools
are
moving
to
over
to
a
platform
in
order
to
continue
instruction
for
the
remainder
of
the
year.
And
then
the
question
was:
are
they
taking
attendance
and
is
there
still
a
required
number
of
hours
for
students
and
how
did
those
hours
translate
in
the
distance
learning
space?
And
the
answer
is
that
most
states,
if
not
all,
have
waived
the
requirements
for
attendance
and
also
for
book
days
and
hours
depending
on
how
your
state
does
it?
A
A
Does
anybody
have
anything
to
add
to
this?
Does
anyone
want
to
discuss
what
it
looks
like
in
your
particular
state?
Interestingly
enough,
I
will
say
that
I
have
heard
that
in
this
surprised
me
one
of
the
top
performing
school
districts
and
schools
in
the
country
is
not
yet
rolled
out
a
digital
learning
plan,
and
so
their
students
have
been
sitting
idle
for
for
a
good
three
to
four
weeks.
I
was
really
surprised
to
hear
that
and
so
I
don't
think.
A
We
should
assume
that
all
schools
have
put
together
they're
just
on
signing
plan,
and
that
might
mean
that
those
students
are
just
expected
to
continue
a
little
bit
longer
than
they
normally
would
into
the
summer
or,
frankly,
I've
not
been
in
touch
with
the
school
district.
So
I
don't
really
know
what
they're
thinking
or
planning
and
then
you're
wondering,
but
it's
a
high
profile,
school
district,
so
I
think
it's
getting
some
attention,
but
I
would
be
curious
to
know
if
there
are
any
exemplar
examples
that
you
all
can
provide.
A
The
other
thing
that
we
are
trying
to
do
is
gather
information
about
best
practices.
So
if
any
of
you
have
information
about
stories
about
where
it
is
working
out
pretty
well
and
you
feel
like
the
school
districts
coming
doing
a
pretty
good
job,
you
would
love
to
hear
that
right
now.
Well,
you
can
definitely
email
or
message
me
privately.
C
A
C
A
Not
really,
there
are
school
districts
who
and
Denver's
one
who
went
down
that
road
and
have
abruptly
changed
course,
because
I
think
they're
getting
pushed
back
as
well
from
parents
or
students.
Saying
look
I
had
a
if
if
they
were
already
into
a
semester
or
a
trimester,
they
already
had
a
grade.
And
so
you
know,
especially
if
your
your
grade
was
good.
You
don't
want
just
a
pass/fail
system,
and
we
also
know
that
it
does
strange
things
to
your
transcripts
and
it
is
gonna
have
an
effect
on
your
GPA
one
way
or
the
other.
A
What
I
have
seen
in
what
I've
heard
seems
to
be
the
most
common
approach.
Is
that
this
you,
that
your
greatest
frozen
in
time
and
that
everything
you
do
going
forward
can
only
improve
your
grade
because
they
understand
that
some
students
don't
do
as
well
in
a
distance
learning
situation,
especially
with
some
of
the
more
technical
courses.
I,
think
that
is
the
more
common
approach.
I.
A
A
Just
happened
within
my
own
school
district,
where
they're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
weight
the
grades
and
do
and
technically
figure
this
out,
because
our
school
district
has
a
similar
situation
where
they
frozen
the
grade
and
you
can
only
improve
and
then
they
got
to
a
situation
where
kids
may
not
have
been
turning
in
things
because
gosh,
it's
not
gonna
hurt
your
grade.
So
what
they
started
to
do
was
to
count
everything
that
you
do
is
extra
credit.
A
D
But
it
certainly
is
a
new
way
of
working
for
so
many,
but
in
New
Hampshire
it
seemed
we
have
a
virtual
high
school
that
a
lot
of
students
take
high
school
courses.
That
way
so
people
seem
to
have
adapted
pretty
well
and
we
got
up
and
running
in
about
a
week,
so
that
was
that
was
a
good
work
on
the
part
of
this
of
the
state
in
the
school
districts.
But
all
in
all
the
grading.
We
have
the
pass/fail
issue
too,
and
people
can
opt
for
that,
but
they
can
also
opt
for
the
grading
process.
D
A
B
That's
a
good
question.
The
answer
is
yes,
and
no
yes,
in
the
sense
that
every
title
for
eligible
institution
is
going
to
receive
allocations
from
the
Higher
Ed
Relief
Fund,
that's
the
90%!
That's
set
aside
for
institutions,
however,
there's
an
additional
seven
and
a
half
percent,
that's
dedicated
specifically
to
HBCUs
in
minority
serving
institutions.
The
guidance
on
the
release
of
funds
for
HBCUs
and
minority
serving
institutions
has
that
been
released,
however,
that
a
full
availability
or
the
full
Fort?
Now
it's
not
fourteen
million,
but
the
full
funds
are
available
to
institutions.
B
That's
that's
now
out
as
of
this
afternoon,
both
for
the
emergency
aid
and
the
additional
uses,
so
HBCUs
Emma
sighs
all
those
institutions
qualify
under
that,
so
they
get
one
set
of
funding
and
they
get
an
additional
set
of
funding.
That's
on
top
of
that
and
that's
the
specific
set-aside.
That's
in
the
bill.
B
And
I'm
happy
to
provide
more
detail
this.
The
release
in
the
last
hour
was
very
substantial.
There's
both
an
FAQ
document
for
how
institutions
should
apply
the
50%
of
emergency
aid
to
students
and
an
FAQ
on
how
the
50%
of
funds
set
aside
for
institutional
uses
can
be
dispersed.
There's
a
lot
of
questions
that
I
know.
A
lot
of
people
have
had
that
I
think
have
been
answered
through
that
guidance.
So
I
will
I
can
answer
that
ad
hoc,
maybe
rather
than
give
you
just
a
rundown
of
everything
and.
A
We
will
also
be
sure
to
include
some
information
and
links
to
things
in
our
weekly
newsletter
that
goes
out
every
Thursday
and
please
let
us
know
if
you're
not
receiving
that
newsletter.
You
all
should
definitely
be
on
the
list.
For
that
we
have
a
question
about
whether
or
not
there
any
states
trying
just
still
trying
to
complete
standardized
assessments.
This
year,
Austin
I
believe
every
state
has
received
a
waiver.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
A
I
think
I
knew
all
states
were
seeking
a
waiver,
so
no
I
do
not
believe
that
any
states
are
trying
to
complete
their
annual
statewide
assessments
that
were
required
under
essa
and
I.
Don't
believe
there
are
any
other
significant
assessments
going
on
right
now.
I
do
know
some
teachers
are
so
you
know
giving
their
formative
assessments
just
to
make
sure
that
students
understand
the
content,
and
so
they
can
see
where
students
are
are
doing
well
or
where
they
may
be
struggling.
A
You
need
to
double
back
and
and
continue,
but
I
think
all
annual
statewide
assessments
have
been
waived
in
all
states.
We
have
received
some
questions
about
whether
or
not
there
will
be
discussions
state
legislators
about
the
inhale
statewide
assessments
and
whether
missing
this
data,
how
this
data?
We
also
know
that
in
most
states,
that's
being.
A
The
accountability
system
is
sort
of
passe
for
right
now,
which
is
what
what
the
information
that
would
feed
in
from
these
assessments
would
be
fed
into
your
accountability
system.
So
we
are
receiving
questions
about
where
state
legislators
are
at
on
that,
if
they're,
ok
with
that,
will
they
be
using
other
data
and
how
they
think
this
will
work
itself
out
going
forward.
A
We
know
that
the
psychometricians
tell
us
that
you
can
continue
to
to
measure
growth
and
value
add,
even
though
we
don't
have
the
assessments
this
year,
but
I'm
still
curious
if
state
legislators
are
having
conversations
around
this.
Is
anyone
aware
of
conversations
going
on
in
your
states
about
the
long-term
impact
of
missing
this
assessment
or
whether
it
will
change
your
state's
attitude
toward
these
assessments
going
forward.
E
Hi
Michelle,
it's
Rachel
New
Mexico.
They
were
like
internally
at
the
staff
level.
Having
the
conversation,
we
have
a
state
law
that
requires
the
assessments
be
administered.
Oh,
we
have
this
federal
waiver
and
with
a
outstanding
sufficiency,
lawsuit
that
was
that
student
outcomes
as
a
measure
of
or
I
guess,
an
indicator
of
whether
we're
sufficiently
funding
schools,
I
think,
there's
some
concern
that
I
think
the
bigger
thing
we're
grappling
with
is
how
to
go
about
waivers
and
how
to
think
about
the
next
school
year.
A
That's
interesting
because
I
know,
certainly
the
policy
organizations
CCSSO
and
GaSb
are
working
with
their
constituents
around
thinking
through
what
next
fall
will
look
like
and
I
could
see
that
the
questions
about
testing
would
definitely
be
a
part
of
that
what
happened?
The
conversation
is
in
your
states
about
about
what
the
fall
is
going
to
look
like
we're
very
curious
to
know
if
this
is
coming
up.
If
so,
our
legislators,
part
of
the
conversation.
E
So
I'll
Rachel,
again
I'll
kind
of
take
a
stab
we've
been
having
maybe
by
Oh
bimonthly
conversations
with
our
education
department.
So
doing
these
types
of
meetings
with
with
my
committee
members
and
the
department
to
ask
questions
and
talk
about
concerns
and
I
think
they've,
you
know
were
generally
having
conversations
with
the
department
but
I.
Don't
know
that
it
you
know
right
now
is
leading
to
decision-making
per
se
or
changing
how
decision-making
is
happening.
A
D
There's
there
are
efforts,
work
with
the
area,
education
agencies,
to
try
to
help
bring
services
to
those
students,
but
I,
don't
think
it's
I
think
success
is
body
yeah
and
as
far
as
distance
learning,
larger
school
districts
are
having
are
making
good
efforts.
Kids
are
getting
computers.
You
know
a
lot
of
efforts
with
these
school
districts
and
the
local
libraries
sure
that
kids
can
access
Wi-Fi,
but
obviously
it's
not
optimal.
D
A
F
They
are
very
focused
on
right
now.
Schools
are
closed
until
May
15th,
so
they're
still
trying
to
sort
out
whether
schools
will
reopen
this
school
year.
So
that's
pretty
much
the
focus
and
there's
very
little
discussion
with
the
legislature,
the
different
which
is
pretty
typical
in
Maryland,
the
State
Department
of
Education.
Pretty
much
does
its
own
thing
so
uh-huh.
We
just
wait
to
hear
what
they're,
what
would
the
governor
in
the
states
who
bring
them
outside
their
press
releases
or
at
their
press
conferences
and.
A
D
A
F
A
Jeffrey
who's
from
Arizona
said
that
there
are
ideas
and
conversations
about
redirecting
assessment
funds
to
a
new
assessment
administered
when
students
return
to
school
to
assess
what
they
have
retained
and
where
they're
at
now-
and
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
on
the
virtual
meeting
last
week
about
the
fact
that
some
states
that
had
that
we're
trying
some
new
approaches
to
assessments
and
have
been
given
some
flexibility
are
trying
to
create
statewide
assessment.
That
happens
three
times
a
year.
A
That
would
end
up
becoming
your
summative
assessment
score
and
that
flexibility
was
allowed
under
essa,
and
so
some
of
those
states
have
a
little
bit
of
an
upper
hand
right
now,
because
they
may
have
already
gotten
to
the
point
where
they
have
those
assessments
in
place
and
can
do
them
and
can
assess
the
kiddos
right
away.
And
then
they
sessom
mid
here
and
then
they
assess
them
at
the
end
of
the
year.
A
And
so
they
will
know
where
there's
where
those
students
are
at
and
they're,
also
the
kind
of
assessments
that
the
teachers
get
the
information
back
pretty
quickly.
So
that's
really
interesting
and
I
know
there
are
discussions,
certainly
with
other
assessment
companies,
to
try
to
come
up
with
an
assessment.
Most
assessments
aren't
designed
for
evaluating
where
students
at
when
they
come
into
the
school
year,
so
they
would
have
to
reconfigure.
A
Their
assessments
should
be
geared
toward
that
be
asking
the
types
of
questions
that
would
be
asked,
but
some
would
also
argue
that
it
could
be
the
same
questions
that
they
were
supposed
to
be
asked
in
March
and
are
able
whenever
the
assessment
window
was
but
just
asked
in
the
fall.
So
that's
interesting
and
I'm
sure
there
are
other
conversations
going
on
in
other
states
around
that
as
well.
Is
there
any
state
who's
considering
shifting
those
funds
to
the
ball
for
that
purpose?
Anyone
on
here.
C
Sure
and
I
haven't
heard
a
state
society
on
that,
but
you
know
when
some
of
the
states
go
into
special
session.
That
might
be
something
that
they're
considering
I
have
not
heard
it
yet
I
will
say
we
have
a
birth
show,
meeting
on
May
22nd
and
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
summer
learning
loss
coupled
with
the
Cova
19
learning
loss
and
what
the
research
says
what
the
outlook
is
for
summer
and
we
might
have
a
better
idea
about
what
school
calendars
my
school
calendars
are
shifting
at
all.
A
Will
say
that
we
have
not
heard
of
a
stage
who
is
seriously
considering
extending
school
longer
this
year
into
the
summer,
I
think
in
part,
because
of
the
expense
it
was
our
understanding.
Hawaii
was
having
a
conversation
about
it,
but
we
have
not
heard
of
a
state
making
a
decision
to
extend
the
academic
year
into
the
summer
as
a
result
of
this
and
the
rest
of
his
question
is
about
the
idea
of
moving
to
a
year-round
calendar
as
a
result
of
all
of
this,
and
are
there
benefits
to
that?
A
C
Okay,
I'll
just
add
around
you
know
you
ask
the
benefits
of
the
year-round
school
calendar.
There
has
been
some
research
that
shows
that
there
is
still
some
learning
loss
because
you
have
the
small
breaks
throughout
the
year
around
this.
The
school
breaks,
but
it's
lessened
because
they
don't
have
the
longer
longer
summer
break.
So
there
is
so
many
MAS
and
it
spread
out
in
tiny
or
chunks
throughout
the
year.
A
F
By
the
legislature,
that
school
systems
and
the
State
Department
of
Education
consider
moving
to
at
least
summer
school,
that's
here,
but
we
do
have
some
school
systems
that
have
a
number
of
buildings
that
are
not
air-conditioned,
and
so
that
is
a
challenge
for
for
summer
school,
particularly
in
Baltimore
City.
But
that's
also,
probably
the
jurisdiction,
we're
they're.
D
F
E
So
Michelle
this
is
Rachel
New
Mexico
we've
been
having
an
interesting
conversation
just
about
extended
learning
in
general.
The
state
last
year
authorized
a
program
that
adds
25
additional
days
to
the
elementary
school
calendar
and
it's
optional
for
districts
and
we've
been
hard-pressed
to
get
folks
to
participate
it.
A
D
In
Iowa
the
governor
has
waived
the
school
start
date:
prohibition
I
should
say
in
Iowa.
You
cannot
start
your
school
calendar
before
August
23rd
I
weighed
that
for
the
coming
school
year
the
legislature
hasn't
come
back
to
talk
about
instructional
hours
or
days,
but
so
as
far
as
I
know,
there's
there
will
be
no
additional
funding
for
adding
to
the
school
calendar,
but
parents
have
expressed
real
concern
about
making
sure
that
the
kids
are
are
keeping
up,
and
so
yeah
she's
offered
that
as
an
opportunity
for
districts
to
start
before
August
23rd.
A
A
Okay,
we're
gonna
go
back
to
the
chat
box.
Again
representative
Ortiz
from
Alaska
governor
Dunleavy
of
Alaska
vetoed
30
million
in
funding
for
public
schools,
but
said
the
money
will
be
replaced
by
the
cares
Act.
How,
however,
will
that
Kerr's
Act
funding
come
with
bed
restrictions
on
it?
That
will
restrict
how
the
dollars
can
be
spent
by
the
local
public
school
districts,
Austin
Daye
when
I
take
that
one
yep.
B
That's
a
that's
a
very
good
question
and
I
think
generally
an
outstanding
question
that
the
education
community
has
some
specifics.
That
I
can't
provide
is
that
at
least
the
portion
of
the
governor's
funds,
the
governor's
emergency
relief
fund
for
education.
Those
could
be
used.
There's
a
pretty
broad
flexibility
on
those
I
think
the
department
characterize
it
as
extraordinary
flexibility,
and
the
thinking
is
that
those
could
be
used
to
fill
a
bunch
of
gaps.
B
I
think
the
general
rushon
the
most
education
stakeholders
have
is
that
those
k-12
funds
are
let
mean
they're
they're
flexible
at
the
district
level,
but
in
terms
of
being
able
to
be
used
to
fill
budget
gaps.
I
think
that
that's
a
bit
beyond
the
intent
of
the
the
funding
and
so
far
on
the
guidance,
the
department's
released,
at
least
in
three
areas-
they've
been
they've,
not
provided
a
lot
of
additional
detail
beyond.
B
What's
in
the
law
and
so
they've
viewed
pretty
closely
to
the
statutory
requirements
and
they've
got
a
very
strict
reading
of
the
law,
which
suggests
that
in
some
ways,
I
think
that
there's
not
a
lot
of
flexibility.
Well,
that
will
remain
to
be
seen
again.
I
think
we're
expecting
to
see
this
on
Thursday,
but
I
think
the
general
I
impression
is
that
governor's
funds
can
be
used
to
fill
gaps,
whereas
the
higher
ed
and
the
k-12
funds
a
little
less
flexible,
at
least
in
terms
of
filling
budget
gaps.
B
We
do
now
know
that
the
50%
of
funds
that
Institute
higher
ed
institution
can
reserve
for
itself
can
be
used
to
reimburse
refunds
to
students,
and
so
through.
That
means
a
university
might
be
able
to
fill
some
of
its
budget
gaps,
but
that
would
be
at
a
university
level
rather
than
at
a
state
level,
so
I
think
again.
B
This
is
an
outstanding
question,
but
my
read
and
my
feeling
is
that
the
k-12
funds
will
be
more
reserved
to
emergency
response
rather
than
filling
budget
gaps,
but
we
could
be
pleasantly
surprised
on
Thursday
in
terms
of
seeing
flexibility
and
I
know
that
NCSL
as
a
whole
is
promoting
the
increased
funding
flexibility
on
a
number
of
different
funding
streams
beyond
the
education
funds.
So
that's
what
we
know
right
now:
governor's
funds-
yes
k12
likely
not,
but
we
will
see.
A
Thank
you.
We
have
another
question
from
Senator.
Sekolah
from
Delaware
I
sorry
be
establishing
an
education
recovery
task
force.
This
NZSL
considering
something
similar
that
will
involve
a
broad
stakeholder
group.
You
know
we
have
been
having
all
kinds
of
conversations
about
how
we
need
to
repurpose
our
work
and
all
of
the
things
that
we
have
planned
for
all
of.
C
A
Know
from
the
upcoming
year,
and
so
that
very
much
could
be
something
because
I
feel,
like
the
conversation
just
now
is
getting
around
to
learning
loss
and
the
significance
of
it
and
so
I
do
think.
There's
going
to
be
some
need
for
state
legislators
to
start
to
really
dig
into
the
research
and
what
we
know
in
different
ways
that
states
could
potentially
structure
things
in
order
to
help
students
with
all
of
this
remediation
that
they're
gonna
need
over
the
next
year
or
so.
So.
A
So
we
are
definitely
in
constant
conversation
with
them,
and
this
is
something
I
can
and
should
touch
base
with
them
about
to
find
out
how
they're
going
about
this
and
to
see
if
it
might
be
something
where
you
know,
we
can
bring
other
legislators
into
the
conversation
or
do
something
jointly
at
some
point
with
their
task
force
and
any
effort
that
we
have
within
our
program.
These
are
the
kinds
of
suggestions
that
we
would
love
to
hear
from
you.
We
would
love
to
hear
about
the
topics
that
you
really
feel
like.
A
You
want
to
dig
more
deeply
into.
We
had
an
education
chairs
meeting
planned,
we
had
an
early
ed
summit,
planned.
We
had
a
series
of
one-day
boot
camps
on
particular
topics
planned
for
the
summer
and
fall,
and
we
also,
of
course
had
a
legislative
summit
and
we
were
in
the
middle
of
planning
and
we
were
thinking
ahead
for
the
fall
and
for
forum.
A
So
we've
got
lots
of
opportunity
to
really
dig
in
whether
it
be
it
will
most
likely
be
virtual
opportunities
to
dig
into
particular
topics
and
work
deeply
with
big
or
small
groups
of
legislators
and
staff.
So
if
you
see
a
need
for
a
topic
that
you
really
feel
like
you
want
to
spend,
you
know
like
two
half
days
digging
into
please
let
us
know.
A
We
know
that
our
thinking
about
what
was
important
before
all
this
hit
is
not
irrelevant,
but
we
also
know
that
your
you
know
what
you
have
right
in
front
of
you
is
is
very
different
than
it
was
before.
So
please
give
us
suggestions
on
things
that
you
feel
like.
You
would
want
to
take
more
deeply
into
you
that
you
need
to
know
this
information
like
between
now
and
this
fall,
and
we
would
love
to
to
get
that
feedback
so
that
we
can
be
sure
that
we
are
we're
putting
together
really
relevant
and
timely
information.
A
What
else
what
other
questions
do
you
all
have
that
we
can
try
to
answer
for
you?
I
know,
I've
had
some
questions
about
the
legislation
we've
been
fielding,
some
questions
about
the
legislative
work
that
some
states
have
been
doing.
Ohio,
New,
York
and
New
Jersey
have
been
the
most
active,
probably
because
they're
still
in
session
right
now
in
Massachusetts,
has
also
been
doing
some
things
too,
but
I
think
most
of
their
work
has
been
more
broadly
addressing
the
kovat
issues
and
they've
been
meeting
virtually
and
in
Ohio
the
bill
that
they
passed.
A
That
we
referenced
last
week
is
probably
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
bills
that
we're
seeing
so
far
that
addressed
a
lot
of
in
codified
a
lot
of
the
things
that
may
have
been
either
waived
or
given
reprieve
from
and
by
either
your
chief
state
school
officer
or
your
governor,
and
they
also
addressed
things
like
distance
learning
and
some
other
things
and
so
have
New
York
and
New
Jersey.
So
I
would
encourage
you
to
get
into
our
bill
tracking
database
and
I'll.
A
Put
that
slide
up
here
in
a
moment
to
remind
you
of
where
that's
at
you
can
get
in
and
see
which
states
are
doing
wet
on
which
topics
sunny
or
Andrew.
Do
you
guys
want
to
comment
on
anything
that
you
guys
are
seeing
in
the
higher
ed
legislation
that
might
be
of
interest
also
or
anything
that
you're
getting
questions
about
specifically
around
higher
ed
or
the
legislation.
D
D
D
We've
seen
a
couple
of
states
at
least
consider
additional
reporting
and
I.
Think
that's.
You
know
something
we
could
all
think
about
the
higher
ed
funds
that
go
directly
to
institutions.
My
understanding
is
that
there
is
a
reporting
requirement
back
to
the
secretary
event
and
and
so
what
you're
asking
kind
of
information
you're
asking
from
them.
It's
potentially
interesting
and
we've
seen
a
couple
of
states
kind
of
try
to
figure
that
out
and
try
to
better
understand
how
it's
impacting
their
institutions
in
the
state
so
reporting
in
general.
D
Back
to
the
legislature,
there
is
interest
in
some
of
the
student
loan,
either
forgiveness
or
changing
their
rates
right
or
putting
them
on
hold
in
some
states
if
their
state
held
student
loans
and
also
around
this
tax
credit
for
employers.
So
those
are
the
things
I
would
mention
in
the
higher
ed
space
and
we
are
keeping
no
daily
track
of
the
legislation
and
you
can
find
that
in
our
tracker.
D
E
You
know
we're:
we've
got
large
swathes
of
the
state
that
we
don't
have
the
infrastructure
for
internet.
You
know
reservation
areas
in
particular
in
rural
New
Mexico
and
are
really
struggling
with
I,
think
rolling
out
distance
learning
right
now
under
that
scenario,
and
then
thinking
about
how
do
you
for
next
year
again,
if
you
have
recurrence
and
individual
schools
are
closed
or
districts
are
closed,
making
sure
that
infrastructure
exists
so
that
school
isn't
interrupted
next
year.
The
same
way
it
has
been
this
year.
A
A
So
all
I
can
say
is
that
what
I'm
hearing
is
just
a
huge
challenge?
I'm
hearing
that
you
know,
states
like
California
have
partnered,
with
Google
to
to
either
buy
or
purchase
or
ask
for
a
donation
for
laughter
for
Chromebooks
and
Google
has
been
working
as
much
as
it
can
to
get
school
districts
who
weren't
familiar
with
the
Google
classrooms
platform.
I've
been
going
on
it
so
that
students
could
easily
transition
to
that
virtual
learning.
A
Space
I
think
some
schools
that
already
were
using
platforms
like
that
we're
better
suited
to
make
the
transition
pretty
quickly,
and
then
you
know,
just
the
access
to
the
Wi-Fi
is
an
infrastructure
challenge.
You
know,
if
there's
not
the,
if
there's
not
that
the
groundwork
already
laid.
It's
not
like
technicians
are
gonna,
come
out
and
start
lee
myung
fiber
lines.
So
it's
a
it's
a
big
issue.
I
know
they've
also
been
sending
hot
spots
and
donating
hot
spots.
A
You
know
some
of
the
big
tech
companies
have
been
donating,
Wi-Fi
hotspots
to
rural
areas,
so
I
think
the
states
that
have
been
really
proactive
and
going
after
that
trying
to
partner
with
some
of
those
technology
companies
probably
have
a
little
bit
of
an
they're,
probably
a
little
bit
ahead
of
the
game.
Then
other
states
that
didn't
make
a
coordinated
effort
to
do
that
or
school
districts.
A
And
also
these
might
be
conversations
that
you're
not
aware
of
I
know.
I
was
in
comm
in
contact
with
the
governor's
office
from
a
state
who
was
curious
about
this.
So
you
know
this
might
be
happening
with
governor's
trying
to
negotiate
these
sorts
of
things.
Unfortunately,
time
is
of
the
essence.
As
we
know,
even
if
you
you
know,
they
eventually
get
something
in
place.
That's
not
gonna
help
kids
right
now
who
are
in
need,
so
we
have
a
virtual
meeting
coming
up
on
Tuesdays.
You
may
even
notice
me.
A
We
configured
the
schedule
a
little
bit
because
we
wanted
to
give
you
all
an
opportunity
to
answer
some
questions
and
we
needed
to
schedule
the
meetings
at
a
time
when
we
could
get
the
experts
who
would
like
to
connect
to
you
on
the
virtual
meeting,
but
we
will
have
a
meeting
next
trying
to
think
of
the
schedule
it's
coming
out.
I'll
flash
is
scheduled
here
in
a
moment,
but
this
is.
This
is
a
topic
of
one
of
the
meetings,
because
we
know
this
is
an.
This
is
an
equity
issue.
A
Oops,
so
this
is
the
bill
tracking
database
that
I
mentioned,
and
there
are
links
to
all
of
our
education
resources.
We've
got
a
lot
of
on
our
webpage
that
addresses
a
lot
of
these
issues
and
when
you
just
continue
to
add
things
every
day
and
this
bill
tracking
database
is
interactive,
so
you
can
get
in
and
look
at
those
by
topic
come
look
at
bills.
A
Now
with
everybody
on
these
virtual
platforms,
and
then
we
will
be
doing
a
roundup
of
legislative
action
and
talk
about
legislative
sessions
and
what
are
the
struggles
that
states
are
facing
as
they're
thinking
about
for
meeting
virtually
as
a
legislature
and
also
how
are
they
thinking
about?
We
go
continuing
the
work
that
they
need
to
do
this
year
and
then
we'll
get
into
a
week
where
we're
really
focusing
and
digging
into
higher
ed,
both
about
the
budget
crisis
and
also
what
distance
learning
looks
like
and
best
practices
for
distance
learning
in
the
higher
ed
space.
A
Then
we
will
be
talking
about
student,
mental
health.
This
is
a
big
issue
that
we
know
is
coming
up
in
a
number
of
states,
so
we
will
have
some
of
our
experts
join
us
from
our
health
program
or
yeah
yeah
from
our
health
program,
where
we
partner
with
them
on
student,
mental
health
and
then,
as
Ashley
mentioned
on
May
22nd,
we
will
be
addressing
this
issue
of
learning
loss
and
different
approaches.
That
states
might
be
thinking
around
summer
learning
and
then
we're
gonna
talk
about
the
impact
on
the
teacher
workforce.
A
You
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
about
there's
a
lot
of
concern
about
getting
teachers
into
the
pipeline
or
getting
them
what
they
need.
I'm
at
a
time
where
we
already
had
a
teacher
shortage
and
so
depending
on
what
school
looks
like
in
the
fall,
this
may
be
exacerbated
as
well,
so
we
thank
you
for
joining
today.
As
always,
this
will
be
recorded
and
posted
within
just
a
few
hours,
or
so
certainly
by
tomorrow,
up
on
our
website,
and
we
hope
you
will
join
us
for
Friday's
meeting.