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From YouTube: The State of State Budgets and Impact of Federal Aid
Description
NCSL policy experts and Michael Griffith, Senior Researcher and Policy Analyst at the Learning Policy Institute, provide an update on state budgets and their impact on schools. May 1, 2020.
A
All
right,
as
I
mentioned
today,
we're
gonna
focus
on
the
state
of
state
budgets
and
the
impact
of
federal
a
he'd.
My
name
is
Michele
extra
I
am
the
director
of
the
education
program
at
the
National
Conference
of
State
Legislators,
and
this
is
one
of
the
twice
weekly
virtual
meetings
that
we've
been
holding
for
you
on
issues
that
we
know
her
right
front
and
center.
A
We
also
would
ask
that
you
add
your
full
name
in
your
tile
by
clicking
on
the
three
dots
up
in
the
upper
right
hand
corner
so
that
we
can
identify.
Who
is
on
the
call.
Please
mute
your
audio
unless
you're
speaking
there
will
be
times
we'll
ask
you
to
open
up
your
your
your
audio
so
that
you
can
participate
more
fully,
but
in
the
meantime,
please
be
sure
to
keep
it
muted.
So
we
all
can
hear.
Well,
you
also
have
the
opportunity
to
virtually
raise
your
hand
or
react.
A
We
don't
often
during
these
meetings,
use
that
fun
reaction
button
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
So
if
you
hear
something
you
like
feel
free
to
give
a
round
of
applause,
for
it,
I'm
not
sure
that
the
news
today,
sorry,
this
meeting
is
going
to
be
all
that
great.
But
if
it's
useful
and
if
it's
helpful
information-
and
please
show
that
with
us
type
your
questions
into
the
chat
box
on
the
right
hand
side
of
your
screen,
so
that
we
can
be
sure
to
answer
those
when
we're
finished
with
the
presentations.
A
We're
also
gonna
ask
you
to
type
some
responses
to
questions
after
the
presentations,
because
we
want
to
hear
your
reaction
and
your
thoughts
to
things
as
well
and
get
those
recorded
in
the
chat
box.
Please
do
not
share
your
screen
and
under
any
circumstances,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
stay
focused
on
the
content
that
we're
supposed
to
stay
focused
on.
A
So
to
get
us
started
as
I
mentioned.
We're
gonna
do
some
chatter,
her
conversation
in
the
chat
box
today.
So
what
I'd
love
for
you
to
do
is
type
in
the
chat
box.
What
state
you're
from
and
whether
you've
received
your
revenue
or
shortfall
forecast
and
if
so,
tell
us
about
that
forecast?
What
are
you
hearing.
A
All
right
we're
just
gonna.
Let
you
continue
to
do
that.
So
today
joining
us,
we
have
to
finance
experts,
one
is
Erica
McKellar.
She
won't
be
speaking
first.
She
is
our
in-house
expert
at
ncsl
on
state
budgets
and
they
have
been
gathering
a
lot
of
information
about
how
state
budgets
are
trending
and
what
it
used.
The
revenue
forecasts
and
so
Erica's
gonna
share
with
us
today
her
sense
of
what
she's
hearing
and
in
our
work
that
we're
doing
it
in
CSL
to
collect
that
information.
A
For
you,
our
second
expert
is
Mike
Griffith
from
learning
Policy
Institute
Mike
has
been
a
longtime
partner
with
us
in
our
work
on
school.
Finance
he's
also
been
doing
some
analysis
and
some
forecasting
based
on
what
he's
hearing
about
state
budget
projections
and
what
you
know
about
some
of
the
aid
that
has
come
down
from
the
federal
government.
I
will
also
add
that
we
have
Dan
Thatcher,
who
is
our
resident
at
finance
expert
on
the
call,
as
well
as
Austin
Reed
who's,
our
federal
affairs
counsel
in
our
DC
office.
A
They
both
also
can
answer
questions
for
us
as
well
today,
so
with
the
head.
Let's
get
started
with
Erika
Erika,
take
it
away
and
I'm
gonna
just
show
for
everyone.
Why?
You're
speaking
the
resources
that
we
have
at
NCSL
and
you'll
notice,
there's
that
fiscal
tile
and
if
you
click
on
it,
there's
some
resources
from
Erika
steam.
B
Great
thanks
Michelle,
so
you
know
we
and
the
Denver
office
of
M
CSL
are
really
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
what
the
fiscal
conditions
the
states
are.
Where
we're
posting
information,
do
we
on
the
website
that
Michelle
mentioned?
But
obviously,
as
you
all
know,
there
is
a
lot
of
uncertainty
out
there
right
now
or
around
state
budgets
and
state
fiscal
conditions.
B
Some
of
the
most
immediate
actions
we
saw
states
take
in
response
at
coba,
19,
supplemental
appropriation
bills.
Today
there
have
been
at
least
26
enacted
and
those
have
largely
gone
to
departments
and
agencies
that
have
really
been
on
the
front
line
of
combative.
The
corona
bears
we've
also
seen
states
start
to
tap
into
their
rainy
day
funds.
B
Ten
states
so
far
have
authorized
transfers
from
their
rainy
day
funds
and
some
of
those
have
been
to
provide
funding
for
frontline
workers,
but
they
are
also
in
anticipation
of
some
of
these
staggering
budget
shortfalls
that
we're
hearing
about
and
estimating
those
shortfalls
is
I.
Think
one
of
the
greatest
challenges
facing
States
right
now,
I,
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
through
that
chat
box,
but
I
know
so
many
people
said
they
haven't
officially
released
any
forecasts
yet
and
I.
Think
that's
you
know.
B
Revenue
estimators
are
really
waiting
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
the
full
impact
of
the
economic
shutdown
that
we're
seeing
and
the
virus
will
be.
We've
seen
some
states
start
to
reopen
their
economies,
but
we
still
don't
really
know
what
that
will
look
like
and
what
that
will
mean
for
state
revenues,
also
complicating
revenue
estimating
right
now,
every
state
extended
their
tax
filing
deadline
for
most
states.
B
The
fiscal
year
begins
on
July
first
and
many
states
have
extended
that
deadline
past
that
July
first
date,
so
that's
pushing
tax
revenue
that
states
had
budgeted
for
in
fiscal
year,
2020
into
fiscal
year
2021
and
further
complicating
these
revenue.
Estimates
for
states
we're
starting
to
hear
that
a
lot
of
official
estimates
will
start
coming
out
in
May,
but
a
few
states
have
released
some
preliminary
data
and
we've
been
talking
with
fiscal
directors
around
the
country
and
essentially,
what
we've
heard
from
fiscal
directors
is.
B
You
know,
states
are
preparing
for
15
to
20
percent
drop
in
expected
revenues,
which
is,
as
a
catastrophic
number
I
think,
just
to
kind
of
give
a
few
examples
from
what
we're
hearing
California
is
preparing
for
shortfalls
on
par
with
the
Great
Recession.
Thirty-Five
billion
dollar
short-term,
the
short
term
in
85
billion
dollars.
In
the
long
term,
Georgia
could
see
a
revenue
shortfall
of
10%
of
current.
What
they're
currently
budgeted
for
for
fiscal
year,
2021
Maryland
could
see
a
15%
drop
in
revenues
just
between
April
and
June.
B
Pennsylvania
is
preparing
for
a
billion
dollars
in
lost
revenue
and,
at
the
same
time,
they're
expecting
that
unemployment
claims
could
cost
the
state
six
billion
dollars
by
the
end
of
next
fiscal
year
and
South
Carolina
revenues
could
drop
15%
for
the
current
fiscal
year
as
well,
so
obviously
enormous
fiscal
challenges
they're
facing
the
states.
At
the
same
time
as
we
saw
during
the
Great
Recession
and
we
typically
see
during
times
of
economic
downturn,
you
know
social
service
programs
like
Medicaid,
also
become
more
in
demand.
B
We've
all
seen
those
skyrocketing
numbers
of
unemployment
claims,
and
we
don't
know
when
those
jobs
will
come
back.
So
you
know
at
the
same
time
the
states
are
losing
this
revenue
they're,
also
going
to
face
increased
demands
for
some
of
these
important
programs.
So
you
know,
states
will
get
squeezed
in
both
ends
and
in
excess
will
be
busy
in
some
difficult
choices
in
the
months
ahead.
B
Obviously,
every
state
will
be
impacted
by
the
economic
shutdown
and
the
virus
that
we've
seen
but
I
think
a
few
states
that
are
particularly
vulnerable
right
now.
Oil
producing
states
face
some
significant
challenges
with
the
low
demand
for
oil
that
we've
seen
Alaska
in
December
was
projecting
oil
prices
per
barrel
in
their
budget
at
$60
and
Louisiana's.
Current
budget
is
based
on
an
oil
price
at
$59
barrel.
Today
the
price
is
around
$25
and
last
week,
the
price
on
negative.
B
So
we
could
see
some
some
prolonged
challenges
for
those
oil
producing
states
that
those
trends
continue.
States
rely
heavily
on.
Tourism
are
also
especially
vulnerable
in
Hawaii,
unemployment
is
37
percent
or
1
in
3
workers
and
in
Nevada
they
rely
heavily
on
taxes
from
gambling
and
the
casinos
are
essentially
shut
down.
B
So
you
know
those
those
types
of
state
could
see
some
some
really
long-term
challenges,
because
I
think
we
don't
know
not
only
when
when
people
will
really
be
allowed
to
travel,
but
we
also
don't
know
how
quickly
people
will
when
they're
allowed
to
so
they
could
face
some
some
long-term
challenges
around
that,
in
addition
to
these
fiscal
challenges
and
the
revenue
shortfalls
that
we're
seeing
the
this
has
also
really
impacted
just
the
overall
budget
process,
my
name
States.
It
passed
a
biennial
budget
last
year
and
several
had
already
passed
their
fiscal
year.
B
2021
budgets
before
the
other
buyers
really
hit
the
United
States
and
I
did
so
on
revenue.
Estimates
from
you
know
back
in
December
when,
when
everything
was
looking
pretty
rosy,
so
I
think
we
all
see
a
lot
of
special
sessions
from
those
states
as
they
come
back
and
try
to
reconcile
their
budgets
with
the
new
reality
that
we're
in
20
states
are
still
working
on
their
fiscal
here,
20
or
21
budgets,
and
obviously
they
are
really
trying
to
get
a
handle.
I
think
on
what
these
new
revenue
numbers
will.
B
Look
like
you
know,
passing
the
budget
is
never
an
easy
task
in
any
year
and
clearly
the
process
has
really
been
complicated
by
you
know,
say
it's
trying
to
adjourn
earlier
so
that
books
can
stay
safely
at
home
sessions
being
suspended
and
postponed.
So
it's
kind
of
get
creative.
With
that
process,
a
little
bit
we've
seen
states
implement
remote
voting.
We've
seen
states
pass
kind
of
based
budgets
that
they
can
then
come
back
and
work
on
later,
Kentucky,
typically
as
a
biennial
budgeting
state,
but
they've
just
passed
a
single
year
budget.
B
Knowing
that
you
know
the
situation
is
changing
quickly,
so
we've
seen
states
you
know,
get
able
to
get
a
little
creative
with
their
budget
process.
This
year,
but
I
think
you
know
overall
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
special
sessions
as
states
get
a
better
handle
on
the
magnitude
of
the
problems.
They're
facing
a
little
good
news
is
that
most
states
have
replenished
their
rainy
day
funds
since
the
end
of
the
Great
Recession.
B
So
states
are
really
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
what
allowable
expenses
will
be
under
those
guidelines.
Unfortunately,
the
guidelines,
don't
include
as
much
flexibility
as
we
would
have
liked
to
see.
States
are
not
allowed
to
use
it
to
backfill
this
revenue
shortfall,
which
is
problematic
because
for
most
states
that
revenue
loss
is
going
to
be
the
greatest
cost
of
the
situation
that
we're
facing,
and
so
those
are
are
sort
of
some
of
the
overall
trends
and
things
that
we're
hearing
from
the
states
and
I'm
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions.
B
A
What
I
was
gonna?
Ask
you
Erika
I'm,
getting
a
lot
of
questions
about
that
too,
especially
from
other
organizations,
National
Governors
Association.
You
know
the
organization
of
State
Boards
of
Education
or
the
secretaries
of
Education,
who
are
wondering
when
we
can
start
to
expect
those
revenue
forecasts.
Can
you
is
it
for
sure?
Probably
in
me,
like
maybe
here
we're
gonna
start
seeing
more
activity
in
the
space
it.
B
Depends
on
the
state
sort
of
waiting
to
see
you
may
not
update
it
as
early
as
some
states
that
are
still
trying
to
work
on
their
fiscal
year.
2021
budgets,
but
we've
heard
from
a
number
of
states
that
they
will
be
releasing
some
estimates
in
May.
We're
currently
surveying
fiscal
officers
to
try
to
get
a
handle
on
some
of
the
preliminary
information,
but
I
think
those
official
forecasts
will
come.
Man.
B
I
think
that
is
a
discussion
of
the
states
are
having
you
know.
It's
always
a
question
of
how
much
and
one
team
right
now
I
think
they
are
using
them
a
lot
for
cash
flow
issues.
I
mentioned
those
tax
filing
have
been
moved
since
your
business
and
challenges
with
that
I
think
it'll
be
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
as
tips
spend
down
all
of
those
funds,
but
I
think
what
states
are
really
waiting
for
before
spending
a
lot
of
those
clubs
is
what
else
might
come
down
from
the
federal
government.
B
A
A
B
So
some
states
are
talking
about
that.
Some
states
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
I
think
I,
think
one
thing
states
are
hoping
to
clarify
is
whether
the
coronavirus
relief
funds
included
in
the
cares
Act
can
be
used
for
states
to
to
instead
of
having
to
borrow
or
for
their
short-term
means,
taking
use
them
for
these
kind
of
cash
flow
issues
or
if
that
would
be
considered
backfilling
revenue
loss.
So
waiting
for
clarification
on
that,
but
I
think
most
states
would
prefer
to
do
that
rather
than
the
world.
A
Sure
does,
as
I
mentioned,
I'm
gonna
flashback
up
on
the
screen,
the
resources
that
we
have
on
all
of
our
our
areas,
that,
in
particular,
you
can
click
on
the
fiscal
tile
on
this
page
on
our
website,
and
it
will
take
you
to
some
additional
information
that
they
have
in
the
fiscal
program
and
a
whole
list
of
where
they're
tracking,
which
which
states
are
reporting
information
on
their
revenues.
So,
thank
you,
Erika.
We
appreciate
your
time
really.
B
B
A
So
we're
gonna
do
another
chatter
in
the
chat
box.
So
if
you
all
could
please
type
into
the
chat
box
after
hearing
the
information
of
Erika
write
a
word
or
a
phrase
that
describes
your
reaction
to
the
news
about
state
budgets,
which
is
trying
to
capture
the
general
sense
of
how
people
are
feeling
about
things
right
now,.
A
Okay,
so
at
this
time
we're
gonna
welcome
our
second
speaker,
Mike
Griffith.
He
is
a
longtime
education,
finance
expert
that
we've
worked
with.
I've
worked
with
him
for
gosh
20
years
now,
and
he
is
a
phenomenal
partner
and
assists
us
in
thinking
about
the
things
that
state
legislators
need
to
be
thinking
about
and
works
in
tandem
with
our
education,
finance
experts,
Dan
Thatcher
I
have
posted
here,
Mike's
blogs
that
he
just
released
over
the
past
couple
of
days
and
the
information
that
will
be
helpful.
So
Mike
please
go
ahead
and
join
us.
C
C
What
we're
trying
to
do
to
help
you
all
out
in
States
to
start
with
I
am
in
my
fifth
day
at
the
Learning
Policy
Institute
I
started
on
Monday
and
I
have
two
blogs
out
already
we're
trying
to
catch
up
on
this
we're,
like
all
of
you,
were
trying
to
figure
this
out.
I
had
a
phone
call
this
morning
with
a
reporter
and
he
was
getting
angry
at
all
of
my
answers.
C
Being
I
don't
know,
and
he
said,
how
can
we
not
know
what
budget
cuts
are
and
I
was
saying
them
were
nine
weeks
into
this?
It
really
began
a
little
bit
for
some
states
at
the
end
of
February
and
really
it's
March
and
April
that
have
hit
it.
You
know
the
states
just
don't
have
systems
that
can
project
that
quickly
and
take
these
things
into
account
with
the
numbers.
Just
don't
come
in
like
that.
So
I've
produced
a
couple
of
documents.
C
You
can
see
them
on
the
learning
policy
institute
website
or
if
you
want,
you
can
go
and
see
them
on
the
Education
Week
website.
Education
Week
also
has
them
listed.
One
is
to
give
you
an
idea.
What
will
you
be
receiving
from
the
cares?
Act
The,
Cure's
Act
money
is
about
two
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
per
kid
or
about
two
percent
of
your
education
funding.
So
it
is
helpful.
C
It
will
help
meet
some
of
the
additional
costs
that
are
going
on
right
now
and
help
some
districts
and
states
get
through,
maybe
in
the
short
term,
but
it
is
not
going
to
be
enough
in
a
lot
of
states
to
cover
their
losses.
We're
looking
at
as
Erika
put
it
it's
in
the
fifteen
to
twenty
percent
range
that
we're
looking
at
it
in
states.
I
set
up
these
tools,
so
you
can
look
at
it.
However,
you
think
it's
going
to
impact
your
state.
C
We
just
don't
know
right
now:
I've
heard
numbers
as
low
as
five
percent
I
have
seen
numbers
in
some
states
as
high
as
thirty
percent
and
again,
what
Eric
is
talking
about
with
some
of
these
states
like
Alaska
North,
Dakota,
Wyoming
Texas,
getting
double
hit
with
both
the
recession
numbers
in
the
drop
in
oil
prices
and
the
increased
cost
that
we're
looking
at
the
next
vlog
I'm
working
on,
and
hopefully
it
will
be
out
next
week-
looks
at
what
are
these
cost
to
states?
What
are
the
drops
in
revenue?
C
Look
like
combined
where
the
increased
cost
we
know
schools
are
facing,
so
there
are
three
big
things.
We're
looking
at.
One
of
them
is
increased
connectivity
cost.
The
second
is
increased
food
service,
cost
and
and
a
lot
of
school
districts
right
now
are
providing
food
service
to
the
families
in
their
community
that
go
beyond
what
they
traditionally
provide.
This
has
to
do
both
with
their
students
being
out
of
school
and
still
trying
to
provide
food
to
them,
but
also
that
we're
seeing
massive
unemployment.
C
These
communities,
one
of
the
numbers
I
looked
at
when
we're
talking
30
million
people
losing
their
jobs.
That
means,
in
the
last
six
weeks,
one
in
five
people
who
had
a
job
six
weeks
ago
now
do
not
have
a
job.
This
is
combined
with
the
fact
that
we
just
have
no
idea
how
many
people
is
a
percentage
or
in
total,
have
had
to
take
pay
cuts.
I
know
what
people
who
are
friends
of
mine
who
had
to
take
pay
cuts
to
keep
their
job,
there's
no
way
to
track
that.
C
The
other
is
what's
being
referred
to
now
is
the
koban
19
loss,
which
is
this
idea
that
students,
especially
low-income
students,
who
do
not
have
consistent
connection
to
the
Internet,
are
falling
behind
it's
similar
to
the
summer
loss,
and
what
can
states
and
districts
do
to
help
these
kids
and
it
probably
is
going
to
have
to
be
some
form
of
extended
learning
time?
Maybe
that
summer
school
New
York
had
talked
about
at
one
point:
I,
don't
know:
they're
gonna
follow
through
starting
the
school
year
in
July,
I.
C
Think
I
just
read
something
that
they
might
not
be
doing
that,
but
other
states
have
looked
at
that.
Or
can
you
provide
these
students
with
something
like
weekend,
programs,
after-school
programs
to
help
make
up
for
the
loss
in
the
last
several
months
of
this
school
year?
So
those
are
the
kind
of
the
three
costs
were
looking
I
will
say:
some
good
news
is
local
property.
Tax
revenue
will
still
be
there.
C
It
will
be
consistent,
so
those
districts
that
are
reliant
on
local
property
tax
revenue
well
weather
the
storm
a
lot
better
and
the
reason
for
that
is,
property
values
tend
to
it,
takes
a
year
to
three
years
to
get
declining
property
values
into
the
system
to
reduce
your
property
tax
bill.
So
your
property
value
starts
going
down
this
summer.
You
don't
suddenly
get
a
lower
bill,
you
get
it
after.
It
was
assessed
and
assessments
take
one
to
three
years.
C
You
also
saw
during
the
downturn
of
the
early
80s
and
90s
that
there
starts
to
be
a
separation
of
haves
and
have-nots.
Those
districts
that
are
more
reliant
on
state
revenue
lose
it
and
can't
make
up
the
difference
compared
to
those
districts
that
are
more
reliant
on
local
property
tax
revenue.
The
wealthier
places
within
your
states
they've
got
something
to
tax,
so
the
wealthy
districts
tend
to
be
insulated.
More
in
the
poor
districts
are
not
so
you
know,
I
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
run
through
all
of
that
I
know.
C
There
are
a
lot
of
questions
out
there.
I
hope
you
had
them.
I
also
feel
if
you've
got
a
statement
or
you
think,
there's
something
we
should
know
I'd
love
to
hear
we're
all
trying
to
learn
right
now,
and
this
is
the
only
way
we're
gonna
learn
this
by
hearing
from
what
all
you
are.
You
all
are
doing.
A
And
me
myself,
I'm
gonna,
stop
sharing
my
screen
so
that
I
can
be
sure
to
get
to
all
of
the
questions
that
have
been
coming
in.
So
there
were
a
few
that
were
in
the
queue
before
when
erica
was
speaking.
That
I
think
would
probably
be
better
posed
to
our
education
finance
experts.
The
first
is
how
many
states
rely
on
gambling
revenues
for
education
with
concei
no
shut
down?
That
is
another
pressure
on
budgets
to
fully
fund
education
in
fiscal
year:
twenty,
let
alone
fiscal
year,
21
Mike.
Can
you
speak
to
that
or
Dan.
C
Is
Erica's
bill
online
I
mean
that's
sort
of
in
her
more,
but
if
not,
I
can
take
a
shot
at
it
and
a
lot
of
states.
Gambling
revenue
is
a
small
percentage,
but
in
places
where
it
has
been
earmarked
for
education,
you
know
it
will
definitely
take
a
hit
again.
It's
the
type
of
revenue
that
you
can't
make
up.
So
people
don't
gamble
over
two
months.
They
won't
necessarily
double
gamble
in
the
months
coming
up,
so
revenue
there
that's
lost
is
lost.
The
question
is:
how
quickly
will
that
come
back
and
I?
C
Think
that's
true
with
a
lot
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
both
in
retail
and
in
food
services
and
any
sort
of
leisure
activity
or
vacation
activity?
How
quickly
were
those
being
able
to
bounce
back
and
that's
a
really
big
question.
You
know
when,
when
casinos
do
open
up,
will
they
fully
open
up
or
will
they
be
on?
You
know,
limited
amount,
so
yeah
it's
going
to
be
tough,
especially
in
those
places
where
it
is
earmarked
for
education.
D
D
A
C
C
You
can
talk
even
more
about
this,
because
you
were
tracking
it
more
than
I.
Was
we
learned
some
lessons
from
the
last
recession,
but
we
didn't
learn
as
many
as
we
should
have.
We
didn't
do
a
great
job
of
tracking
where
that
money
was
spent,
how
it
was
spent
on
what
it
went
to.
There
are
some
general
things
that
we
learned,
but
not
nearly
as
much
and
unfortunately
now
we
don't
have
as
much
information
to
guide
us
through
all
this.
C
So
I
think
one
of
the
lessons
learned
for
all
of
us
is:
let's
all
try
to
do
a
good
job
of
tracking.
How
do
we
do
this,
and
this
is
gonna
happen?
Not
hopefully
the
virus,
but
economic
downturns
happen
about
once
a
decade
so
the
next
time
this
happens,
we'll
have
some
information.
We
could
talk
about.
What
did
we
learn,
but
damn
do
you
want
to
touch
a
little
more
on
that
or
yeah.
D
Sure-
and
this
is
just
from
Mike
and
I-
have
talked
about
this
weird.
We
were
around
during
the
Great
Recession
and
insular
positions
in
trying
to
track
the
amount
of
federal
aid
going
out
to
States
during
the
Great
Recession
through
through
era
and
governors
at
that
point
were
for
for
this
education,
Stabilization
Fund
that
was
provided
in
there
and
were
required
to
submit
application
or
I.
D
Don't
know
if
it's
an
application
or
a
kind
of
report
to
the
Department
of
Education
detailing
their
assurances
that
they'll
maintain
in
maintenance
of
effort
on
certain
things
and
also
a
detail
on
how
they
were
gonna,
divvy
up
the
money
between
K
to
12
education
in
their
Institutes
of
higher
education.
But
there
was
not
good
follow
up
on
that,
but
we
don't
really
know
what
percentage
of
it
went
to
higher
ed
versus
K
through
12.
D
Some
states
track
those
is
education
or
just
federal
funds
in
federal
grants,
others
because
they
went
through
the
funding
formula
for
the
K
through
12
side
at
least
consider
them
state
dollars,
so
our
tracking
of
it
as
whether
it
was
federal
or
state
dollars.
It's
kind
of
really
murky.
We
don't
have
a
good
idea
and
it
was
just
kind
of
a
balance
between
getting
the
money
out
quickly
and
and
trying
to
make
it
good
accounting
of
it.
And
so
in
that
balance
we
lost
a
lot
of
kind
of
good
granularity
of
how
it
was
spent.
E
I
can
add
a
little
bit
more
I'm,
actually
sitting
a
question
about
school
bus
contracts
and
I.
Think
that
gets
that
sort
of
the
question
we
still
have
about
how
flexible
these
funds
are
so
I
think
what's
been
covered
so
far
in
terms
of
federal
funds
is
right,
there
they're
fairly
flexible.
We
think
that
they
can
be
used
for
teacher
salaries
to
a
certain
extent.
E
I
doubtful
of
that
and
I
think
we'll
have
to
wait
for
the
department
to
say
yes
or
no
on
that
one
I.
Imagine
that's
one
that
there
I
know
that
that's
been
a
question.
That's
been
brought
up
for
at
least
the
past
month,
so
I
imagine
that
they
would
have
some
sort
of
yes
or
no
on
that.
But
we're
not
sure
so
that's
the
real
question
right
there
is
is
that
these
aren't
intended
to
backfill
revenue
or
to
deal
with
costs
that
are
outside
of
technology
and
providing
services
to
students.
E
But
there
is
some
speculation
about
that.
So
that's
the
real
big
outstanding
question
we
have
in
the
department
hasn't
you
know
in
their
initial
application
package
for
the
k-12
funds
it
didn't
provide
any
additional
guidance
outside
of
saying
this
is
what
the
law
says
and
hopefully
they're
supposed
to
come
out
with
some
in
the
coming
day.
So
we'll
learn
a
little
more,
but
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
right
now
still
more
questions
and
answers.
So
hopefully
they'll
provide
some
clarity
on
this.
A
We
have
a
question
from
representative
Dabney
from
Minnesota
Mike
referred
to
three
areas
of
increased
cost
connectivity
and
food
and
I
miss
the
third.
What
is
it
and
I've
been
having
questions
about
this
too?
Just
for
my
neighbors
were
saying:
how
could
schools
possibly
be
incurring
additional
cost
right
now,
when
they're,
when
schools
cancel?
So
can
you
enlighten
us
what
the
the
main
areas
of
expenses
are
right
now
that
have
gone
up
that
were
unanticipated
and.
C
Again,
the
third
one
just
a
it's
at
the
head
and
that
go
back,
but
the
third
one
was
extended
learning
time
to
make
up
for
learning,
loss
and
again
not
for
all
students,
but
usually
those
students
who
are
struggling
yeah.
You
know
so
again
a
lot
of
this
we're
trying
to
catch
up
on
the
fly.
There
are
definitely
costs
that
are
incurred
by
districts
for
cleaning
or
prepping
schools.
There
are
costs
for
online
learning
and
devices
for
students,
and
then
there
are
costs
for
food
services.
C
So
that's
sort
of
the
wave
idea
you're
there
in
person
until
you
can't
be,
and
then
you
go
back
online,
others
places
have
looked
at
doing
half
the
kids
coming
in
for
two
days
week,
the
other
half
coming
in
for
the
other
two
days
and
then
all
of
them
are.
You
know
the
online
and
the
fifth
day.
So
that's
one
of
the
other
options
that
places
are
looking
at
all
of
these
come
with
some
cost,
maybe
not
that
much
for
a
couple
of
them,
but
they're
there,
the
other
thing
there,
people
talk
about
and
I.
C
Just
honestly,
don't
think
we're
going
to
be
able
to
put
the
money
aside
work,
but
we
need
to
is
professional
development.
How
do
you
teach?
This
is
a
very
different
way
to
teach
and
many
teachers
weren't
prepared
for
that's
quite
frankly,
and
it's
going
to
be
even
more
different
if
you're
doing
split
time
and
I
think
what
a
lot
of
classes
and
schools
have
done
is
push
things
off
and
said
we'll
do
that
next
year.
C
So
things
like
lab
time,
there
are
ways
to
do
lab
time
online,
but
you
have
to
be
trained
for
that
right.
All
of
this
are
things
that
will
probably
be
additional
cost
but
they're
very
hard
to
quantify
and
to
say
what
are
the
numbers
there?
Another
thing
I
heard
in
Taiwan
is:
don't
move
the
kids
around
move
the
teachers
around,
so
that's
less
contact
and
then
don't
have
them
go
to
a
cafeteria,
I
guess
they're.
C
C
That
seems
very
difficult
to
me,
but
you
know
so
again
we're
trying
to
learn
all
of
this
stuff,
but
it
mainly
comes
to
Hon
the
ones
we
really
know
and
we're
already
seeing
the
expenses
are
the
food
services
the
extended
time
to
make
up
for
learning
loss
and
the
connectivity
cost
and
the
connectivity
cost
is
the
one
that
is
happening
right
now
for
some
places
they
just
can't
afford
it.
So
I
do
not
know
what
those
students
do
and
I
think
they're
the
ones
even
more
in
danger
of
falling
behind.
D
C
Good
point
and
I
think
that's
that
falls
into
another
thing
in
states
and
hopefully
with
the
it's.
This
is
a
time
to
provide
as
much
flexibility
as
you
can
on
a
lot
of
these
things.
So
Erie,
for
instance,
does
not
allow
school
districts
to
provide
Internet
services
to
their
students
after
the
school
day.
That
might
be
something
for
the
next
year.
We
ask
the
beds
to
give
a
waiver
on,
or
someone
asked,
because
there
are
places
where
they
are,
the
provider
of
the
Internet.
C
There
could
be
and
I
know,
of
school
districts
I
what
I
worked
specifically
with
in
Texas,
that
has
to
turn
off
their
Wi-Fi
after
five
o'clock,
because
the
school
is
closed
and
they
cannot
provide
Internet
services.
There
are
reasons
for
that,
but
this
is
a
time
that
maybe
we
we
look
at
things
like
that,
those
those
types
of
rules
being
exempted,
at
least
for
a
year,
I.
A
E
E
Effort
means
that
at
least
for
Kerris
funds
that
spending
for
fiscal
year,
twenty
and
twenty
one
needs
to
be
as
much
or
greater
than
the
average
of
the
preceding
three
years,
and
if
states
are
experiencing
any
sort
of
drop
in
revenue,
there's
there's
almost
no
way
that
any
state's
going
to
be
able
to
meet
that.
We
still
don't
know
what
the
waiver
process
is.
Like
we've
been
asking
the
Department
for
a
month
about
this
and
still
haven't,
got
any
clear
answers.
E
I
was
corresponding
with
them
again
yesterday
about
this,
and
and
we
we
as
an
organization,
are
also
considering
some
some
larger
actions.
So
no
no
guidance
on
this.
This
waiver
process
yet
but
I,
think
everyone
is
rightly
concerned
that
states
are
receiving
this
money
through
governors
and
state
education
agencies
and
making
it
up
to
the
federal
government
that
they'll
be
able
to
meet
humane.
It's
an
effort,
but
we
have
pretty
good
information
to
suggest
they
will
not
be
able
to
meet
that.
A
Representative
Santos
posed
a
question
about
secretary
Purdue,
issuing
waivers
that
affects
school,
related
nutrition
and
food
services.
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
Jorge
on
our
staff
Jorge
responded
and
put
a
link
in
there
to
those
waivers
so
that
everyone
can
see
them.
Also,
we
had
a
response
and
more
information
about
the
e-rate
piece
from
Christine
Fox
she's
actually
going
to
be
our
speaker
on
Tuesday,
and
she
will
be
speaking
about
all
these
technology
and
distance
learning
and.
A
Access
challenges
that
we're
facing
and
so
I
encourage
you
to
be
on
a
virtual
meeting
on
Tuesday,
but
she
comments
that
the
House
bill
includes
funding
via
e
r84
home
access
with
special
considerations,
because
school
is
at
home
now,
so
she
has
information
and
a
link
that
she
has
posted
there
for
you
all
as
well.
Let's
see
here
another
question
about
school:
okay,
I
wanted
to
point
out
and
I
may
share
my
screen
again
here,
for
everybody.
I
really
want
to
encourage
you
to
check
out
Mike's
blogs,
this
first
blog
that
he
wrote.
A
It's
cover
19
and
school
fun
during
what
to
expect
and
what
you
can
do.
There
is
a
ton
of
information
in
this
blog,
it's
very,
very
deep
in
information
and
there's
some
analysis
too
and
I've
just
taken
a
quick
screenshot
there
just
to
demonstrate
the
kind
of
the
kind
of
information
that
mike
has
included
in
there
and
then
the
second
block
that
I
wanted
to
point
you
to
is
his
most
recent
blog
on
the
impact
of
covered
19
on
the
teaching
positions.
A
Those
of
us
who
work
on
the
issue
of
educator
effectiveness
and
supporting
effective
teaching
profession
I
think
are
shocked
to
hear
some
of
these
predictions
about
the
impact
that
this
could
potentially
have
on.
The
number
of
teaching
positions
that
could
be
lost.
Mike
has
again
provided
analysis
where
you
can
look
at
your
state.
I've
just
included
a
snapshot
based
on
a
15
percent
reduction
in
state
contributions,
which
are
the
states
that
will
have
the
highest
percentage
of
loss
of
teaching
positions.
A
But
there
is
a
ton
of
information
you
can
play
with
the
information
and
use
a
scrolling
bar
to
see
like
if
our
state
just
has
a
10%
reduction.
What
kind
of
impact
does
that
have
so
I
would
highly
encourage
you
to
check
out
these
two
blogs.
They're,
just
really
really
cheap
and
information
and
Dan
has
put
the
link
to
the
two
blogs
in
the
chat
box
as
well.
A
So
are
there
any
additional
questions
that
you
all
have,
or
do
any
of
you
want
to
share
the
conversations
that
are
going
on
in
your
own
States
I
will
say
that
I
was
on
a
conversation
this
morning
with
CCSSM.
He
has
the
NGA
in
EEZs
and
we
were
really
focusing
on
how
our
organizations
can
be
framing
the
work
that
lies
ahead
for
all
of
you
and
how
we
could
be
partnering
together
to
think
through.
A
You
know
who
has
expertise
in
each
piece,
and
how
can
we
come
together
to
do
that,
but
our
topic
of
conversation
really
landed
on
schools,
reopening
and
the
fact
that
school
districts
are
pushing
very
hard
for
the
state
to
start
to
come
together
with
a
plan,
and
so
just
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
Even
within
the
past
week,
there
are
19
states
and
J's
tracking.
A
This
that
has
put
together
some
sort
of
school
reopening
task
force
or
working
group
and
I
would
encourage
all
of
you
to
find
out
if
that
is
happening
in
your
state,
and
if
so,
it
would
be
great
for
you
all
to
be
plugged
into
the
conversation
as
well.
We
were
talking
about
things
like
the
fact
that
the
school
districts,
who
are
the
school
districts
going
to
be
looking
to
you
for
guidance
on
if
Susy
comes
to
school
and
she
has
a
temperature.
A
What
immediate
action
does
the
school
need
to
take,
or
if
this
teacher,
because
of
contact
tracing,
came
in
she
contact
with
somebody
who
was
diagnosed
with
Kovac?
What
does
that
mean
for
that
school
and
those
school
districts
are
looking
to
the
state
or
to
their
local
health
boards
or
their
state
health
boards
for
guidance
around
some
of
this?
They
need
very,
very
concrete
answers
like.
Are
they
going
to
take
everyone's
temperature
when
they
come
in
the
door?
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
details
that
need
to
be
discussed
and
need
to
be
thought
through,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
get
plugged
into
those
conversations
in
your
state
if
you
aren't
already
just
to
have
a
sense
of
what
are
the
decisions
that
need
to
be
made,
and
then
you
as
legislators
think
through
what
does
that
mean?
For
me,
how
could
I?
A
How
could
the
legislature
be
helpful
or
what
are
the
kinds
of
decisions
that
the
Legislature's
need
to
be
making
I
know
one,
and
that
also
is
a
big
conversation,
is
assessing
where
students
are
at
as
soon
as
they
get
back
to
school.
What
kinds
of
assessments
are
gonna
be
put
in
place
or
what
tools
are
gonna
be
used
to
ensure
that
we
know
where
kiddos
are
at
when
they
get
back
to
school
in
the
fall
or
if
the
school
is
open
a
little
bit
earlier?
A
Yes,
that
the
chat
is
archived
along
with
the
video
on
our
website,
so
you'll
be
able
to
see
how
the
information
that's
posted
in
the
chat
and
Liz
provides
information
about
New
Jersey
that
there's
conversation
on
local
districts
need
to
approve
budgets
and
when
they
will
no
actual
state
aid
numbers
and
I'm
sure
that
again
is
pressure
coming
up
from
the
school
districts,
because
they've
got
to
be
making
decisions
about
next
school
year,
pretty
quickly
and
so
I'm
sure.
There's
a
lot
of
pressure
on
the
the
state
legislature
to
figure
all
this
out.
A
So
they
know
what
their
own
budgets
are
and
her
question
is:
are
other
states
seeing
this
and
has
there
been
any
discussion
about
how
to
make
changes
to
the
school
budgets
that
are
due
and
other
changes
that
may
need
to
be
made
after
the
budget
is
passed?
If
state
aid
comes
in
a
lot
lower
and
the
schools
need
to
cut
or
increase
local
taxes.
A
C
New
Jersey's
are
a
little
unique
as
a
state.
There
are
five
states
where
you
go
to
the
voters
with
your
budget
and
they
need
to
be
approved.
In
most
cases,
budgets
are
approved
by
the
by
the
school
board
or
by
the
community
that
they're
in
so,
if
you're,
a
dependent
school
district
like
New,
York,
City
school,
it's
removed
by
the
city
itself,
so
there
has
been
a
push
for
a
decade
since
I've
started
working
to
to
somehow
require
States
to
report.
C
How
much
is
coming
from
the
state
to
districts,
but
you
know
it
gets
into
one
of
these
classic
things.
You
can't
tie
the
hands
of
a
future
legislature,
so
you
can
exempt
yourself
from
that.
If
you're
not
able
to
make
the
deadline,
we
know
it's
tight
and
we
know
that
it's
difficult
right
now
for
districts
to
even
think
about
what
to
do,
and
the
fact
that
may
is
the
traditional
hiring
season
for
new
teachers
adds
to
the
difficulty.
So
you
know
I
know,
states
are
struggling
with
us,
and
districts
are
I.
C
Think
one
of
the
things
you
can
do
from
your
end
and
States
is
start
to
explain
to
districts
that
there
are
probably
cuts
coming
their
way.
What
I'm
hearing
from
districts
is
very
different
than
what
I'm
hearing
from
state
people
districts,
don't
necessarily
think
they're
going
to
face
a
cut
state
funding
next
year.
It
is
amazing,
as
that
sounds
I
I.
C
Think
it's
true
and
I
think
that's
one
of
those
I
know
you
can't
tell
them
a
solid
number,
but
I
think
maybe
somehow
having
a
communication
with
your
departments
of
ed
and
getting
the
information
out
there
that
they
need
to
start
looking
at
their
budgets
and
thinking
about.
Maybe
what
at
least
say
a
10%
cut
would
look
like
and
then
making
a
decision
to.
Maybe
what
a
20%
cut
would
look
like,
but
you
know
they
need
to.
C
They
need
to
know
now,
once
you
start
the
school
year,
you're
already
making
upfront
purchases
for
the
entire
year,
sometimes
in
services,
sometimes
in
goods
in
if
they're
not
going
to
have
the
money
available
for
them
from
the
state
and
they're.
Looking
at
a
cut,
they
need
to
know
that
as
soon
as
possible,.
D
There's
no
white
white
folks
are
doing
that.
I
have
a
question
just
to
pose
a
rhetorical
question:
what
not
to
wait
for
people
to
answer,
but
as
we
looked
at
the
budget
cuts
in
the
great
recession
to
to
education
budgets,
there
were.
There
was
a
lot
of
first
winnowing
down
of
some
of
programs
that
wouldn't
be
considered
part
of
the
core
delivery
model
of
Education.
D
We
will
it
be
to
the
base
amount.
Well,
what
is
it
the
foundation
and
it's
gonna
be
cut
across
the
board,
or
will
the
cuts
try
to
be
made
desperately
disparately
because
going
to
the
different
revenue
capacity
at
the
local
level,
or
something
like
that?
So
again,
it's
just
a
rhetorical
question
and
and
based
on
what
we
kind
of
saw
from
last
time
around
and
something
to
I'm
curious
to
see.
What's
going
to
happen,
and
hopefully
we
could
provide
some
help
if
anyone's
looking
for
maybe
what
some
options
might
be
and.
A
I
know
you
know
the
school
finance
experts
always
talk
about
the
fact
that
so
often
we
make
just
blunt
cuts,
but
we
don't
make
surgical
cuts
and
we
don't
think
about
the
fact
that
certain
things
have
way
more
impact
on
student
achievement
than
others
and
I
know.
Today,
when
I
looked
at
the
list
or
some
of
the
items
that
the
legislators
in
Colorado
said
the
they
may
be
cutting,
it
was
painful,
it
was
cut
suitable
to
the
full-day
kindergarten.
That
was
just
put
in
place.
A
A
Even
if
it's
just
temporary,
I
guess
I
should
also
say,
they're
me
they're
planning
to
make
really
huge
cuts
to
school
counselors,
which
was
something
they
just
put
a
lot
of
effort
into
here
in
Colorado.
So
on
that
note,
I
wanted
to
mention
that
we,
along
with
all
those
resources
we
want
to
provide
to
you.
We
also
are
continuing
our
virtual
meeting
series
and
we
will
continue
to
do
that
for
as
long
as
it
takes
for
us
to
keep
meeting
your
needs.
As
you
can
see,
we
have
two
really
great
meetings
next
week.
A
One
is
on
this
issue
of
the
technology
divide
and
then
on
Friday
we'll
be
focusing
on
issues
around
assessments.
How
do
we
measure
learning
when
schools
are
closed
and
the
assessments
have
been
waived?
What
is
the
student
data
system
and
what
about
this
college
and
career
ready
assessments
that
are
so
important
to
make
sure
that
students
are
ready
for
college
or
career
what's
happening
to
those?
A
A
So
please
plan
to
join
us
for
those
virtual
meetings.
We
will
continue
to
send
out
updates
about
those
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
today
and
if
you
have
any
additional
questions,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
us
we're
happy
to
help
you
to
assist
and
we'll
look
forward
to
seeing
you
on
Tuesdays
virtual
meeting
have
a
great
weekend.
Everyone
goodbye.