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LSCC Professional Staff Association Officers Workgroup 98134656194
A
B
Room
which
is
next
door
to
my
office,
so
thanks
look
forward
to
listening
to
you.
B
I'm
kristin
rottinghaus.
I
know
shame
on
me:
I'm
a
performance
audit
manager
with
the
kansas
legislative
division
of
post
audit
and
actually
the
vice
chair
for
nlps
this
coming
year.
B
Hopefully
this
works,
I'm
jamie
shanks,
I'm
a
legislative
attorney
for
tennessee.
I'm
chair
for
relax.
H
Hi
everybody
thanks
fred
good
to
see
you
all
angela
andrews,
I
am
nc
sales
liaison
to
the
lscc
and
also
proudly
serve
as
the
co-liaison
to
nlssa
and
support
mary
and
atturo
with
this
work
group.
So
I'm
happy
to
see
all
you
today.
I
forgot
to
say
this
at
the
beginning
or
to
let
fred
and
brock
know.
H
I
just
wanted
to
disclose
we're
recording
this
meeting
to
enable
those
that
are
where
I'm
unable
to
attend
to
have
access
to
the
recording,
so
just
know
it's
being
recorded,
but
it's
not
shared
publicly
just
to
those
few
who
may
want
to
view
it
if
they
were
unable
to
attend
thanks
fred
back
to
you.
C
All
right
well
that
takes
care
of
a
item,
one
on
the
agenda
and
the
next
one
is
just
kind
of
going
over
some
goals
we've
had
and
for
this
next
one
about
a
common
framework
on
how
staff
associations
have
handled
covid,
we're
kind
of
looking
for
folks
to
with
all
their
different
groups
memorialize
what
they've
done,
maybe
for
future
pandemics
just
to
learn
something
about
kind
of
a
remote
environment,
but
it's
all
of
information
sharing
for
the
future.
I
Could
share
for
lrl
what
we
had
to
do
first
of
all
was
to
update
our
bylaws
because
a
lot
of
what
we
did
as
far
as
the
executive
committee
were
tied
into
having
the
summit,
and
so
we
had
to
we
had
to
adjust
that
in
the
event
we
don't
have
a
summit,
and
so
we
did
that.
I
Then
we
had
our
first
ever
virtual
business
meeting,
which
our
business
meeting
is
usually
held
at
the
legislative
summit,
and
so
what
we
saw
with
the
virtual
business
meeting
was
significant
increase
in
in
attendance
and
for
a
small
group
like
ours,
where
we
may
have.
I
You
know
less
than
a
dozen
people
at
summit,
we
we
doubled
or
even
tripled
our
numbers.
I
Everybody
hear
me:
okay
by
the
way.
I'm
sorry
we
also
had,
like
probably
other
groups,
national
zoom
calls
and
then
webinars
we've
had
one
webinar.
So
far
we
had
over
113
participants
in
that
and
partly
based
on
that
and
partly
based
on
trying
to
come
up
with
programming,
we'll
be
having
future
webinars
for
our
members
as
well.
A
Right
I'll
go
from
the
clerk
society,
so
we
ended
up
having
so
so
one
of
the
things
that's
the
characteristic
for
when
we
do
our
pds
is
the
various
groups
that
comprise
our
society
get
together,
so
our
assistant
clerics
get
together
our
primary
principal
clerks,
get
together
the
journal,
clerks,
etc.
So
we
actually
went
forward
with
those
we
did
have
zoom
calls
for
every
one
of
those
groups
and
they
were
all
very
well
attended.
A
We
also
did
have
a
webinar
that
we
hosted
and
had
sort
of
a
four
people
participating
that
shared
their
various
experiences
with
how
they
handled
things
in
in
their
remote
or
in
one
case,
just
completely
baffling
manner
in
which
they
held
proxy
voting,
which
I
I
don't
know
it
just
doesn't
sit
well
with
me
anyway,
so
it
was,
it
was
a
great.
It
was
a
great
experience
to
do
that.
A
We
did
adopt
a
resolution
as
a
as
the
executive
committee,
so
we
we
sort
of
approached
it
in
a
couple.
Phased
steps.
We
we
appointed
a
subcommittee
of
the
executive
committee
to
sort
of
look
at
the
options
and
report
back
with
some
suggestions
to
the
executive.
They
recommended
that
we
we
basically
continue.
A
We
sent
out
a
survey
to
our
principals
and
one
associate
from
each
state
because
that's
how
we
vote
in
our
society
with
their
feedback
and
they
gave
us
their
feedback
and
then
we
sort
of
hashed
it
out
a
little
further
and
and
basically
we,
we
decided
to
follow
the
ncsl
option,
which
was
to
adopt
a
resolution
continuing
our
folks
in
office
and
and
allowing
for
those
who
are
serving
as
committee
chairs
to
to
stay
on
as
well.
A
If
they
wanted
to-
and
I
think
and
holly
can
correct
me,
but
I
think
we
only
had
two.
Let
us
know
that
they
wanted
to
to
step
out
of
their
committee
positions
and
bring
folks,
and
so
so
we
retained
a
pretty
good
amount
there.
We
we
will.
I
will
say
that
we
do
have
to
so.
We
did
so.
We
have
buzz
and
standing
orders.
Our
standing
orders
can
be
amended
by
our
executive
committee,
so
we
did
adopt
some
standing.
Orders
changes
to
allow
for
this.
A
We
do
have
to
ultimately
change
our
bylaws,
which
we're
planning
to
do
at
our
pds
next
october
in
maine,
and
if
that
happens,
I'm
hoping
we'll
be
able
to
meet
next
may
next
year
in
maine.
So
but
but
we've
we've
we're
we're
hoping
to
have
some
additional
get-togethers
there's
a
discussion,
at
least
from
the
the
principles
that
we
should
try
to
have
a
a
post-election
post-mortem.
If
you
will,
I
guess
and
talk
about
preparations
for
the
2021
sessions,
so.
C
That's
great
well,
since
these
plans
come
from
our
own
very
own,
martha
it's
like.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
say
anything
or
add
anything
to
the
discussion
so
far,.
J
J
You
know
certain
avenues
like
paul
said
they
they
struggled
and
had
quite
a
bit
of
back
and
forth
and
ended
up
choosing
one
one
direction
and
and
including
some
of
that
information
in
the
documentation
of
what
you
did
and
why
you
did
it,
I
think
is,
is
helpful.
You
know
to
save
time
later
down
the
road,
but
I
think
this
is
really
critical
on
how
we
do
and
even
how
we
move
forward.
I
mean
a
blend
of
being
able
to
do
maybe
virtual
and
in
person
is,
is
obviously
going
to
be
a
way
to
go.
J
If
we
have
113
of
our
lrl
folks
attending
google
law
and
move
on
that's
just
such
a
good
showing
and
like
paul
said
they
saw
some
folks
who,
for
one
reason
or
another,
didn't
travel
or
couldn't
travel.
So
in
all
of
these
things,
I
think
we
need
to
turn
an
eye
to
maybe
an
overarching
new
approach
to
how
we
do
business,
and
these
are
all
the
pieces
to
that
pie.
So,
thanks
fred.
C
And
we
have
a
special
request
from
ncsl
staff
that
you
know
some
groups
are
meeting
in
2021
some
aren't,
and
so,
if
we
could
go
around
to
each
of
the
associations
and
just
talk
about
are
we
are
you
going
to
meet
in
2021?
And
if
you
are
meeting,
are
you
meeting
with
another
association,
jamie
I'll,
take
the
pressure
off
you'll,
just
let
everyone
know
for
relax.
We
are
not
meeting
in
person
in
2021
and
we're
going
to
meet
up
in
the
staff
hub
in
2022.
K
Okay,
I'll
jump
in
with
the
legislative
services
and
security
and
to
really
expand
on
what
martha
said.
Our
group,
we
had
two
roundtable
discussions
that
directly
related
to
covet
in
situations
that
we
were
facing.
One
one
was
on
safety
and
coveted
protocols,
and
we
talked
a
lot
about
where's
the
building
open.
Were
you
taking
temperatures?
What
were
you
doing
to
keep
everybody
safe,
and
then
we
had
one
on
protest
which,
between
george
floyd
and
election
protests,
our
capitals
have
seen
them
pretty
much.
K
All
year
long
and
I
will
say
we
had
new
members
that
joined
the
calls
that
haven't
attended
meetings,
so
I
do
think
a
combination,
even
if
we
can
start
meeting
in
the
future
doing
these
type
of
calls
allow
some
people
with
limited
budget
to
to
participate.
K
L
F
So
we
did
a
couple
round
tables
that
had
pretty
good
attendance
over
70
people.
They
were
ncsl,
also
hosted
the
alpha
director's
call
with
treasury
that
we
were
allowed
to
ask
the
us
treasury
some
questions
directly
about
chronovirus
relief
fund
guidelines
that
had
pretty
good
attendance
and
they
did
a
special,
deep
dive
for
us
on
unemployment,
insurance
trust
fund
executive
orders
through
the
partnership
with
the
putridable
trusts.
F
We
did
a
fiscal
director's
pre-conference
at
the
mcsl
2020
base
camp,
and
then
we
still
have
four
programs
planned
for
november
and
december
on
medicaid
higher
education
advice
for
newer
analysts
and
how
legislatures
are
returning
to
work
and
that
have
had
pretty
good
interests
already
as
far
as
2021.
F
B
Think
I
was
the
one
who
asked
if
we
could
go
around
and
see
what
other
groups
are
doing.
You
know
we
had
done
a
survey
to
gauge
interest
in
an
in-person
meeting.
This
fall
before
we
kind
of
knew
where
things
would
take
us
and
there
was
a
mix
of
concern
over
the
various
but
also
travel
budgets.
C
And
sharon
other
than
picking
me
a
new
boss,
it's
like
what's
your
group
up
to.
D
Oh
well,
we
we've
actually
done
more.
I
think
this
year
than
we
have
before
we,
we
did
a
leadership
staff
seminar.
We've
done
three
of
them.
One
was
on
habits,
one
was
on
values.
I
think
you
went
to
the
values
one
and
this
thursday
we
have
one
on.
How
do
you
find
your
happy
place?
D
Humans
tend
to
have
a
negativity
virus,
and,
and
so
we're
going
to
talk
about
how
we
can
move
into
the
area
area
of
positivity,
and
then
we
we're
gonna
have
another
couple
of
seminars
in
2021
on
zoom
coaching
conversations
and
maybe
something
on
choice,
and
then
we,
I
guess,
that's
that's,
basically
what
we're?
What
we're
up
to.
D
Don't
know,
I
think
we
have
to
wait
and
see
what
happens
with
covid,
and
so,
if
we
do
do
an
in-person
meeting,
I
think
the
discussion
and
megan
can
chime
in
here,
we'll
probably
piggyback
on
the
the
meeting
in
chicago
like
we
usually
do,
because
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
attendance
usually,
but
we
just
have
to
wait
and
see
what
happens
with
the
vaccine
and
and
travel
budgets,
and
all
of
that.
C
All
right
and
then
I'll
just
call
on
a
kiernan
for
nlpes.
M
We're
very
well
versed
in
doing
webinars,
so
we
have
kept
those
up,
but
we've
added
something
new
to
our
repertoire
that
I'm
probably
going
to
call
it
the
wrong
name
but
they're
like
zoom
talks
where
they're
meant
to
be
more
interactive,
where
you
just
kind
of
put
out
three
questions
to
the
group
and
then
just
have
folks
have
conversations
and
those
have
gone
well
and
been
well
attended.
M
A
few
of
them
have
definitely
been
on
topics
related
to
covet
in
the
sense
of
like
how
are
you
doing
field
work
during
this
time
period?
Another
thing
we've
been
doing
that
kristen
on
the
call
is
actually
headed
up.
Is
people
are
so
inundated
with,
so
many
online
trainings
she's
been
pulling
together
a
monthly
email
to
say,
here's
all
the
trainings
that
might
be
appropriate
for
your
offices
or
evaluator
auditor
folks.
So
that's
been
extremely
helpful.
M
C
And
we've
had
two
folks
join
us
shortly,
so
we'll
stay
on
the
theme
of
what
everyone's
groups
are
doing,
the
clerks
and
secretaries
will
call
on
brad
say:
are
you
gonna
meet
in
2021
and
if
you
are,
are
you
gonna
meet
with
any
other
groups.
G
C
A
There
he
is
he's
here
right,
yeah.
I
already
talked
and
and
mentioned
that
we're
gonna
be
in
maine
next
october,
for
for
our
pds
and
in
positive
vibes.
Damn
it
we
are
going
to
meet
in
october
of
2021
in
beautiful,
downtown
portland
maine,
and
we
will
have
lobster-
and
I
know
you're
all
jealous
as
hell.
C
Fantastic
and
so
that's
all
kind
of
have
on
the
first
two
points
of
our
agenda
now
the
chief
he's
gonna
take
over
for
item
number
three.
K
All
right,
so
item
number
three:
we
want
to
continue
to
discuss
the
plan
to
market
our
webinars
produced
by
the
various
staff
sections,
and
I
think
we
just
mentioned
it.
Several
staff
stations
have
done
some
online
training
or
webinars.
K
H
Well,
brock,
I'm
going
to
chime
in
thank
you
and
just
share
part
of
what
this
group
worked
on
last
year
was
considering
an
awards
program
for
webinars,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
really
good
discussion
around
it
and
consideration.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
kind
of
was
a
obstacle
to
putting
together
an
awards
program
which
is
trying
to
figure
out
selection
criteria.
H
How
do
you
measure
you
know?
What's
what's
the
criteria
or
measurement
or
metric
for
a
really
good
webinar?
Is
it
number
of
people
that
attended?
Is
it
the
content?
You
know?
H
Is
it
just
how
it
was
organized
or
moderated,
there's
a
lot
of
considerations,
and
I
think
one
of
the
obstacles
was
trying
to
figure
out
what
was
were
those
pieces
that
could
measure
a
webinar
for
receiving
an
award,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
evolved
from
from
that
conversation
was
instead
of
putting
together
an
awards
program,
putting
together
a
marketing
plan
to
reckon
in
order
to
recognize
those
webinars
that
staff
associations
have
put
together
that
could
have
expanded
reach
outside
of
the
staff
association
and
to
the
broader
legislative
audience.
H
So
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
for
feedback
on
that.
What
do
you
guys
think?
I
also
recognize
we're
in
a
current
coveted
era
where,
as
everybody
mentioned,
we
are
all
in
this
zoom
meeting
space
everybody's
had
their
groups
meet
via
zoom
or
via
nc
sales,
webinar
platform,
some
are
recorded
and
some
aren't
because
of
the
sensitive
nature
of
the
conversations
and
the
topics,
it's
more
for
association
members
versus
abroad,
broad
group
of
legislative
staff.
So
I'm
curious
to
hear
just
what
your
thoughts
are
on.
H
Instead
of
trying
to
put
together
an
awards
program
where
there
seemed,
I
think,
seemed
to
be
interest
but
a
lot
of
obstacles
in
terms
of
the
metrics
to
review
and
select
an
award
recipient.
H
I
think
this
is
the
pivot,
if
you
will
to
recognizing
staff
association,
webinars,
so
thoughts
on
a
marketing
plan
or
doing
a
best
in
show
what
webinars
would
work
or
be
of
interest
martha.
I
see
your
head
nodding,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you
make
sure
I've
classified
this
correctly.
Yeah.
J
Absolutely
beautifully
said,
rather
than
compete
amongst
each
other.
We
were
thinking.
You
know
why
not
showcase
the
best
of
what
we
have
and
to
try
and
create
that
kind
of
platform
in
some
way
to
share
the
really
well
done
pieces
that
we've
produced,
which
are
most
everything
that
we've
produced
so
looking
to
this
group
to
to
kind
of
come
up
with
what
they
might
put
forward
from
their
each
of
their
associations
and
how
we
might
send
that
out
to
everyone,
so
yeah
absolutely
captured
that
a
lot
of
work
goes
into
these.
We
need
to.
K
M
K
B
J
I
almost
feel
like
you
need
a
library
of
sorts.
You
know
somewhere
where
people
can
go.
We
get
deluged
by
daily
emails,
so
in
lieu
of
that
daily
email.
Why
not
create
some
kind
of
showcase
or
a
point,
a
place
to
go
where
you
can
see
the
very
best
of
and
collectively
advertise
them
instead
of
trying
to
piecemeal,
send
them
after
the
fact,
if
that
makes
sense,
that's
one
idea.
G
So
we
we
did
that
a
few
years
ago,
when
I,
when
I
was
the
the
chair
of
the
itc
subcommittee-
and
I
don't
know
to
what
extent
I
mean
it-
I
I
think
it
was
appreciated,
but
you
have
to
be
really
diligent
about
keeping
up
with
it
and
in
in
putting
new
new
content
in
there
and
then
subsequently
marketing
that
content.
G
So
so
I
I
don't
know
angela
do
you
know
if
that
page
still
exists?
I
guess
I
haven't
followed
up
with
that.
H
It
does
still
exist,
it's
part
of
our
multimedia
library,
for
legislative
staff
and
others.
I
think
the
challenge
is
there's
so
much
material
in
there
right
hard
to
suss
through
there's
a
huge
search
function
to
it,
and
it's
really
hard
to
kind
of
narrow
in
on
what
the
staff
association
webinars
are
doing.
We
do
have
a
kind
of
separate
staff
listing
of
webinars.
That's
updated
semi-regularly,
however,
even
that
I
think
we
could
change
up
and
promote,
and
maybe
I'd
welcome
other
thoughts
so
that
library
does
exist.
H
G
And
also
like,
what's
good,
you
know
right
what
what
do
people
want
to
see,
and
I
I
don't
know
I
I
I
don't
know
how
we,
how
we
create
a
structure
to
to
review
and
and
kind
of
fertilize
the
additional
attention
that
people
should
have
for
for
these
things,
or
you
know
saying
hey.
This
issue
is
relevant
now
and
it
was
relevant
five
years
ago
and
here's
an
excellent
webinar
on
this
particular
issue,
or
something
like
that
that
to
me
is
I
mean
I
I
that's
great.
G
First
of
all,
I
I
should
have
started
with.
Thank
you
very
much
for
keeping
up
with
it.
That's
awesome
and
I
really
appreciate
it
and-
and
I
guess
the
question
there
is
like:
how
can
we,
how
can
we
do
it
better
so
that
people
know
about
it
and
can
use
it
and
access.
M
It
kiernan
here
I'm
just
thinking
what
might
be
easy.
Our
web,
like
nlps's
website,
has
its
own
professional
development
website
within
it.
I'm
guessing
other
sections
have
that
as
well.
M
You
know
top
three
most,
you
know
recommended
content
for
you,
and
then
you
have
the
rest
of
the
page
with
all
the
detail
that
you
could
walk
through
if
you're
actually
an
evaluator
and
want
to
look
at
any
of
it,
but
you
could
bring
up
to
the
top
just
the
three
most
popular
or
that
kind
of
thing,
and
then
ncsl
would
only
have
to
pivot
to
the
page,
but
the
individual
staff
section
would
be
responsible
for
updating
what
they
put
at
the
top
of
their
page.
J
And
I
think
the
idea
is
to
take
those
from
each
professional
staff
association
from
the
top
of
their
page
and
create
yet
another
platform
that
has
a
bigger,
broader
reach.
So
I
might
not
go
to
the
nlp
es
page.
I
might
go
to
the
nalfo
page.
So
what
did
nlp
es?
Do
that
might
be
pertinent
relevant
in
a
bigger
picture,
and
can
we
showcase
those
maybe
once
a
year
so
that
it's
not
a
deluge?
J
But
you
know
this
week
is
you
know
the
best
in
webinars
week
for
ncsl
something
along
those
lines?
So
exactly
what
karen
said
about
elevating
those
that
were
the
most
popular
the
most
relevant
and
then
even
taking
it
one
step
further,
I
think
to
to
spread
it
further.
J
H
F
I
see
your
hand
yeah,
I
would
say
it
might
be
helpful
too,
if
we
start
trying
to
use
more
consistent,
like
branding
when
it
turns
to,
if
it's
a
discussion
or
a
round
table
or
a
kind
of
point
time,
conversation
or
training,
I
think
sometimes,
when
we
name
them,
it
might
be
descriptive
for
especially
like
your
group,
but
it's
not
necessarily
so
clear,
like
if
you're
looking
for
something
that's
more
applied
discussion
or
a
point
in
time
discussion.
F
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things,
especially
in
the
budget
world,
that
we
have
great
webinars
about,
but
I
don't
know
that
it's
going
to
be
so
relevant
in
a
different
kind
of
economic
environment
and
so
being
able
to
have
a
consistent
kind
of
naming
cadence
or
something
that
other
staff
sections
would
use
so
that
if
it's
a
roundtable
discussion
I
know
a
roundtable
for
nlps
and
now
fo
is
going
to
have
about
the
same
type
of
category.
If
that
makes.
J
Sense
goes
back
to
what
kiernan
said
about.
I
guess
we
call
it
zoom
talks,
you
know
what
what
do
you
label
that?
So
that's
a
great
point.
L
Well,
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
mean
I
think,
brock
kind
of
kicked
this
off
as
marketing
and
I
think
we're
talking
a
lot
about
delivery
and
I
don't
I
don't
know
that
that
should
get
lost
in
the
in
the
conversation.
You
know
I
I
to
me.
I
think
you
know
if
we
have
this
landing
page,
that's
great,
but
how
does
that
get
in
front
of
people
regularly
that
aren't
just
randomly
going
to
the
website?
So
maybe
you
know
in
the
regular
communications
that
we
get
from
ncsl.
C
Well,
if
we
want
to
oh,
we
want
to
have
a
worst
co-host
award.
We
can't
give
dole
it
out
to
me,
because
just
circulating
back
around
betsy
was
kind
enough
to
remind
me
that
I
totally
forgot
about
lynx
in
our
2021
update.
E
Thanks
fred,
sorry
yeah,
I
didn't
want
to
jump
in
and
interrupt
anyone,
but
we've
had
a
webinar
and
a
training
so
far
and
we've
got
another
facebook
town
hall
training
scheduled
for
early
december.
We
have
pretty
good
attendance
at
the
two
that
we
hosted
already,
so
that
was
encouraging
a
lot
of
really
good
information
in
those
and
a
lot
of
good
feedback
for
our
pds.
For
2021.
E
We
have
had
those
conversations
we
actually
sent
out
a
poll
to
our
members
just
to
kind
of
get
feedback
on
what
location
might
be
preferable
if
we
are
able
to
meet
and
what
people
were
thinking
at
this
point.
If
you
know
they
would
be
able
to
travel
or
whatnot
a
lot
of
the
feedback
we
got
was
you
know
people
saying
it's
still
up
in
the
air,
not
sure
if
they
can
travel,
not
sure
you
know
with
budgets
and
travel
restrictions.
E
Things
like
that,
so
we
were
going
to
have
a
executive
committee
call
I
think,
week
before
last
to
to
go
over
that
stuff
in
more
detail,
but
we
perform
so
we
push
that
off
for
a
couple
weeks,
so
more
info
to
come
from
links.
J
On
their
plans
for
their
pds
that
it,
we
also
are
kind
of
up
in
the
air
just
want
to
see
how
things
shake
out
before
we
make
any
sort
of
decision.
C
Overall,
I
think
the
you
know,
with
our
2021
update
there
going
back
to
kind
of
our
last
conversation
about
soren's
point
about
not
losing
the
marketing.
I
know
for
relax.
K
has
been
really
good
about
sending
out
email
updates
for
everyone
for
our
new
webinars
and
everything
else,
but
yeah,
I
think,
having
a
like
a
main
page,
maybe
for
all
the
groups
where
we
want
to
limit
to
the
associations
of
just
where
people
can
go
when
they
have
time,
because
sometimes
it's
just
not
convenient.
C
So
I
think
kind
of
like
taking
john's
idea
of
having
the
list
of
websites
and
everything
that's
there,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
have
it
association
specific
or
just
have
like
an
ncsl
page,
where
all
the
associations
can
post
their
stuff.
That's
kind
of
more
of
a
ncsl
staff
question,
whether
that's
something
and
then
feedback
from
all
your
groups,
whether
we
should
be
having
general
access
or
just
each
association
has
their
own
thing.
I
Yeah,
sorry,
I
have
a
question
so
I
regularly
go
to
the
ncsl
calendar
and
are
we
talking
about
something
different
than
what
I'm
seeing
here
where
we
have
webinars
and
virtual
meetings
and
oftentimes
I'll
see
something
there
that
the
title
alone
will
interest
me
and
I'll
want
to
sit
in
on
that?
But.
H
H
Yeah
we're
talking,
I,
the
conversation,
is
more
about
staff
association,
specifics
so
putting
something
that
recognizes
the
work
of
the
staff
associations
and
those
webinars
or
zoom
calls
national
zoo
meetings
that
are
for
public
consumption
and
having
it
as
a
place
where
folks
can
go
and
then
marketing
it.
So
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
also
showcase
the
work
of
the
staff
associations
to
to
broader
audience
and
putting
that
in
front
of
folks,
so
we
do
have
kind
of-
and
it's
probably
very
confusing
now
that
this
is
all
being
raised.
H
Is
we
have
a
calendar
of
one
area
with
archived
webinars?
Then
we
have
the
search
tool
function.
That
john
mentioned,
that
has
all
of
our
multimedia
content,
and
then
we
have,
as
you
know,
a
separate
page
that
we've
been
maintaining
in
the
staff
services
program
just
about
webinars
in
general,
so
probably
need
to
do
some
work
to
rethink
how
we're
putting
together
the
web
pages
and
marketing
them,
but
also
expanding
it
and
doing
a
marketing
plan
to
soren's
point
I
think,
and
where
brock
started
of
pushing
it
out
to
everybody.
H
So
brock,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you.
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
we
haven't
talked
about,
but
maybe,
if
there's
one
or
two
folks
here
that
have
an
interest
in
this-
that
we
could
work
with
you
on
maybe
using
a
sound
sounding
board
for
ideas
and
kind
of
helping
us
lead
this
effort.
H
K
Yes,
I
think
your
chat
must
have
been
from
from
the
previous
discussion,
so
we're
ready
to
go
forward
again.
J
Oh
yeah,
no,
I
am,
I
would
love
to
see
a
work
group
just
try
and
take
some
of
the
work.
That's
done
because
I
feel
like
an
awful
lot
of
work
goes
into
a
lot
of
these
webinars
zoom,
chats,
define
them
and
maybe
put
them
forward
to
a
bigger
audience.
I
think
that
a
lot
of
people
can
benefit
from
some
of
the
things
that
I
hear
in
my
professional
staff
association
and
I
just
thinking
that
there
has
to
be
a
way
that
we
can
share
some
of
this
really
important
work
and
pertinent
work.
K
I'm
going
to
tell
you
at
the
beginning,
I'm
going
to
ask
for
volunteers
when
I
finish
this
bullet
point
and
when
I'm
done
with
this
brief
description,
I
know
we're
going
to
be
successful
if
you
do
not
have
a
if
you're
not
on
a
work
group
or
if
you
don't
have
a
project
or
responsibility
with
this
staff
association
officers
group,
please
volunteer
so
we're
here
as
officers
of
our
staff
associations,
whether
it
be
chair
vice
chair
president
or
vice
president,
and
what
we
need
to
put
together
is
some
common
language
to
add
to
our
association's
policies,
our
manual,
the
role
of
being
on
this
on
this
group.
K
What
are
your
responsibilities
if
you
are
a
chair
or
co-chair
of
your
staff
section,
and
what
does
that
mean?
It
is
in
response
to
these
meetings
and
travel
with
the
professional
staff
association
officers
group.
So
we
have
different
associations,
but
we
need
some
common
language
and
ncsl
course
is
going
help
us
and
and
but
we
need
to
come
up
with
some
type
of
uniformed
some
type
of
description
of
roles
and
responsibilities.
K
So
I'll
let
angela
expand
and
martha
stoss
if
she
wants
to
chime
in,
but
then
we
need
one
or
two
people
to
volunteer
to
help
put
this
together,
and
what
I
would
say
is
this
should
be
an
easy
task.
K
H
Thanks
brock
I'll
share
once
again
and
martha
can
add.
I
think
this
is
how
it's
going
today,
but
there's
been
a
some
of
you
know:
there's
been
an
effort
on
the
lsdc
to
create
job
descriptions
for
roles
of
folks
on
the
lscc,
so
we
actually
have
a
job
description
for
what
the
staff
chair
role
entails.
Just
giving
a
kind
of
a
full
overview
of
the
roles
and
responsibilities
of
the
staff
chair.
We
have
the
same.
H
A
job
description
for
staff
at
large
members
of
the
executive
committee
also
trying
to
give
a
broad
overview
of
what
that
responsibility
entails.
We
have
a
job
description
for
the
staff
co-chairs
of
the
overall
standing
committees,
and
so
this
is
an
effort
to
just
be
very
clear
and
provide
if
you
will
a
lot
of
clarity
about
if
you're
signing
up
for
a
specific
role
or
you're
nominating
yourself
or
you're
being
nominated
for
a
specific
role
to
really
understand
what
that
role
entails.
H
We
know
that
through
you
know,
you,
you
learn
by
word
of
mouth
you're,
either
recruited
to
run
by
a
member
of
the
association
or
a
past,
I'm
chair
of
the
association
or
maybe
liaison
approaches
you
and
just
gauges
your
interest.
I
know
and
talking
to
eric
nomin,
who
wasn't
who
unfortunately
can't
be
with
us
today.
You
know
that's
how
the
conversation
was
going
and
there's
real.
H
The
information
across
the
nine
groups
varies
in
terms
of
what
the
role
is
to
be
as
a
member
of
the
lscc,
when
you
are
an
officer
of
the
staff
association
by
virtue
of
that
position,
you're
also
a
member
of
the
lscc.
But
what
does
that
really
entail
attending?
You
know
for
back
into
meeting
in
person.
That's
four
meetings
per
year.
That's
work,
you
know
serving
on
an
lscc
work
group
and
an
lscc
subcommittee.
It's
maybe
doing
work
in
between
the
meetings.
H
But
this
is
just
you
know,
standardized
language
that
can
be
used
across
the
nine
groups.
To
just
add
an
additional
level
of
clarity
about
what
what
maybe
those
that
are
interested
are
getting
getting
into
martha
anything
else
to
add.
Or
anybody
else
want
to
chime
in.
J
Yeah
this
just
seemed
like
a
no-brainer,
because
we
hear
so
often
about
oh,
what
do
you
do
if
you
do
that?
What
am
I
getting
into?
How
much
time
does
it
take?
And
you
know
I've
had
several
people
too,
from
professional
staff
association
say
I
didn't
know
I
was
on
lscc
too.
I
didn't
know.
I
had
this
additional
responsibility,
so
you
know
just
just
so
that
people
it's
out
there
it's
published.
J
This
is
what
the
job
is
and
then,
when
it
comes
time
for
nominating
and
recruiting
when
we
get
closer
to
summit
in
august,
you
know
here's
what
this
is:
here's
what
it
entails
and
just
give
a
general
idea
of
what
it
is
to
to
do
this
serve
this.
I
think
all
of
us
probably
fielded
a
phone
call.
That
said
so,
you
know
what
do
you
do?
They've
asked
me
to
be
a
part
of
standing
committees
or
they've
asked
me
to
do
this,
and
or
that
and
just
to
have
that
description.
H
Some
groups
do
have
information
in
their
bylaws
and
some
groups
don't
have
any
information
in
the
bylaws,
and
I
don't
think
this
is
asking
to
modify
their
bylaws,
but
again
just
putting
together
a
generic
language
that
can
be
utilized
across
all
the
groups
that
we
could
add
to
the
lscc
web
page
and
just
all
of
our
recruitment
efforts
for
lscc.
H
So
I
think
to
support
brock
and
if
there's,
I
think,
a
desire
to
create
a
work
group
to
look
at
all
the
language
that's
currently
available
and
then
cross
some
things.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
take
take
the
lead
and
end
this
effort,
that
would
be
welcome.
K
Come
on,
we
can
get
one
or
two
volunteers
from
I
know.
Well,
there's
one
we
can.
We
can
persuade
a
little
bit
more
than
others
come
off.
Look
I
need
some
volunteers.
Two
or
three
people
to
help
put
this
together
would
be
great.
H
Thanks
and
might
somebody
thanks,
soren
thanks
fred,
I'm
gonna,
maybe
lrl
or
lynx.
I
can
see
kristin
yeah.
H
H
Thanks,
I
think
this
offers
a
good
cross
representation
of
the
group,
so
thank
you.
K
All
right,
I
appreciate,
I
really
appreciate
the
volunteers,
I
know
sometimes
with
all
of
our
responsibilities.
That's
that's
a
that's
something
that's
difficult
to
do,
but
I
appreciate
you
four
and
a
will
make
this
a
success
all
right
now
to
the
last
one,
and
probably
the
at
least
the
most
substance.
We
want
to
work
on
our
deliverables.
K
I
know
we
were
looking
at
the
lscc's
destiny
policies
that
we
discussed
that
about.
Okay,
if
we
can't
meet,
are
we
going
to
send
somebody
in
our
state
or
they're
going
to
vote
or
they're
going
to
vote
the
way
we
want
to
vote,
we
would
have
voted
if
we
were
there.
We
need
to
kind
of
pick
that
ball
back
up
and
start
working
on
it
again.
Does
anybody
have
any
ideas
from
our
or
any
development
from
our
previous
meetings
or
how
we
can
move
forward
with
our
destiny
policy?.
H
So
I
think
each
group
was
working
on
their
own
policy,
so
I
would
just
say
if
you,
if
each
group
has
confirmed
their
policy
to
share
it
with
me
or
your
liaison,
to
share
with
me
and
then
we'll
have
a
general
listing.
That's
my
understanding
that
some
groups,
for
example,
lynx,
is
working
to
develop
a
policy.
I
think
others
are
have
made
a
decision
that
what
they
have
is
currently
what
works
for
them.
H
So
if
you
haven't
worked
on
it
as
a
group,
please
connect
with
your
liaison
and
I'll
connect
with
them
too,
and
then,
if
you've
made
a
decision,
please
let
me
know
that
as
well.
What
we're
hoping
to
do
the
end
result
is
again
compile
it
all
in
one
place
for
future
reference
as
well.
K
Okay,
our
next
deliverable
was
conference
safety
guidelines.
I
know
that
our
work
group,
we
worked
on
several
drafts
that
went
back
and
forth
between
our
work
group
and
then
we
have
sent
the
third
safety
draft
for
meetings
if
we
are
able
to
pick
back
up
meetings
and
csl
is
editing,
editing
that
and
discussing
how
how
to
best
distribute
that
to
members
if
we
do
start,
if
we
do
and
in
fact
hopefully
have
meetings
next
year.
So
that's
that's
pretty
much.
K
K
K
H
Over
the
past
year,
this
group
has
worked
to
focus
on
the
staff
association
overhead
allocation
formula,
as
I
hope
most
of
you
know,
or
just
a
reminder
for
most
of
you:
ncsl
charges
each
of
the
professional
staff
associations
a
fee
for
holding
their
pbs
meeting.
This
is
a
fee
that
covers
a
lot
of
ncsl's
cost
regarding
with
regards
to
planning
a
meeting
so
contracting
for
that
meeting.
H
Marketing
that
meeting
just
providing
some
of
those
really
necessary
pieces
setting
up
registration
for
the
meeting
when
we're
on
site
and
most
groups
tend
to
have
a
an
csl
meeting
planner
on
site.
I
recognize
the
smaller
groups,
don't
so
it
helps
support
those
costs
of
the
meeting
planner
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
happens
after
the
meeting.
We
reconcile
all
the
registration
numbers.
We
reconcile
the
budget
as
well.
H
So
this
this
we
have
a
a
fee
that
covers
all
of
those
expenses,
and
what
we
talked
about
last
year
was
revising
that
formula
to
make
it
a
little
easier
for
the
smaller
staff
associations,
while
holding
the
larger
staff
associations
holding
them
harmless,
meaning
we
would,
they
wouldn't
have
any
increase
to
their
overhead
allocations.
So
I
want
to
stop
right
here,
I'm
happy
to
present
and
discuss
each
the
changes
that
we
proposed
to
the
overhead
allocation.
H
H
All
right,
so
what
we're
asking
everybody
here
today
is.
We
would
like
to
move
this
overhead
allocation.
The
proposed
revision
forward
for
consideration
by
the
full
lscc
and
wanting
to,
if
brock,
wanted,
to
make
a
motion
to
formally
adopt
the
the
revision,
then
it
can
be
considered
by
the
full
lsdc
and
again
I'm
happy
to
review
it
with
this
group
today
about
what
it
entails.
If
that
would
be
helpful
before
brock
asked
you
to
enter
to
consider
the
motion.
G
So
I
I
have
a
question
about
that.
So
after
it
gets
adopted
by
the
lscc
or
are
we
done
with
it
or
is
that
going
to
be
sent
to
the
executive
committee
or
what's
the
plan
for.
H
But
we
want
to
make
sure
it
gets
adopted,
so
we
can
formally
change
it
and
then
the
groups
that
are
meeting
in
2021
should
they
be
able
to
meet.
This
would
be
helpful
guidance
to
them
as
they
budget
for
their
meetings.
And
then,
if
that
meeting
were
to
happen,
have
clarity
about
which
overhead
allocation
to
use.
K
And
I
would
like
to
add,
I
think
it's
really
important
to
emphasize
that
all
the
staff
associations
agreed
to
adopt
it.
So
there
was
really
no
no
controversy,
and
this
was
a
fair
way
to
to
deal
with
the
burden
on
the
small
individual
meetings
and
not
not
affect
the
larger
association.
So
unless
someone
else
has
a
question
or
something
that
they'd
like
to
add
I'd
like
to
make
the
formal
motion
that
we
adopt
the
new
allocation
formula
for
stand-alone
meetings,.
A
K
All
right:
well,
then,
all
in
favor.
If
you
would
like
to
say
yes
by
a
thumbs
up
or
how
do
you,
how
do
you
want
to
document
it
andrew?
Do
we
need
the
document
account?
I.
H
H
H
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
and
this
will
be
presented
at
the
full
llcc
meeting
on
friday
for
consideration
by
them.
So
I
want
to
just
thank
everybody
for
considering
this
and
presenting
it
and
bringing
it
forward
to
your
executive
committees
for
conversation,
discussion,
review,
support
and
even
though
eric
is
not
on
the
call
today,
I
just
I
want
to
formally
recognize
him
for
the
work
he
did
on
this
as
a
fiscal
analyst.
H
This
was
probably
a
maybe
a
fun
task,
although
an
added
task,
but
he
did
some
forecasting
forecasting
for
us
and
really
helped
put
us
put
forward
the
formula
that
this
group
has
adopted.
So
it
was
with
his
kind
of
work
and
his
forecasting
and
his
analysis
of
it
that
helped
to
lead
us
down
the
path
of
the
overhead
allocation
formula
that
has
been
adopted
by
this
group
and
will
be
considered
by
the
full
llcc.
H
K
H
K
The
phone,
okay,
fred
anything
you'd
like
dad
as
co-chair.
Thank
you
for
going
this
meeting
with
me.
H
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
one
more
thing
about
the
overhead.
What
you
guys
adopted
today
is
the
overhead
allocation
for
stand-alone
meetings.
At
some
point,
there
will
be
discussion
about
I'm
considering
an
overhead
allocation
for
joint
meetings
as
well
as
staff
hub
or
super
pbs,
but
we'll
call
staff
hub
for
now
meetings
those
larger
meetings
that
go
beyond
to
groups.
So
this
is
one
part
of
the
overhead
allocation
but
does
not
apply
to
the
staff
hub
or
joint
meetings.
H
I
will
say-
and
I
those
that
are
participating
in
the
2022
staff
hub
now
that
overhead
allocation
is
set.
That
was
something
that
was
agreed
to
by
the
group
in
2019
and
so
nothing
changes.
So
I
want
to
give
that
clarity
and
just
just
to
let
you
guys
know
nothing's
changed
regarding
that,
so
I
don't
have
anything
else
to
add.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
fred
and
brock
for
stepping
in
at
the
last.
Second,
you
guys
did
a
good
job.
I
know
it's
very
hard.
H
We
have
lots
of
materials
to
cover,
so
thanks
for
stepping
in
at
the
last
moment
moment
to
support
eric
and
sharing
this.
So
I
don't
have
anything
else.
J
Thanks
everybody,
I
guess
we'll
see
you
at
future
meetings
this
week
lscc
week
thanks
for
being
here,
I
know
that
it's
it's
a
lot
of
time,
but
your
input's
invaluable.
So
thank
you.