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A
A
It's
already
doing
it.
Thank
you
gene,
so
gene
is
going
to
start
recording
it,
and
I
think
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
call
the
role.
C
All
right,
mr
chairman,
I'll
just
go
through
the
list
here
and
since
this
is
our
first
meeting,
if
you
want
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself,
that'd
be
great.
Senator
bassler
from
indiana.
Are
you
here?
B
D
Morning,
everybody,
my
name,
is
aurora
hawk.
I
am
chief
of
staff
for
the
house
majority
leader
in
alaska
and
I'm
on
it's
7
00
am
here.
So
I'm
a
little
drunk.
D
C
Thank
you,
representative,
boland.
B
Good
to
be
here,
I'm
anne
boland
from
michigan
I
serve
as
the
assistant
majority
floor
leader
primarily
sit
on
appropriations
in
vice
chair
of
the
general
government
subcommittee,
and
I
also
chair
the
elections
and
ethics
policy
committee
this
year
good
to
be
here.
B
Thank
you.
I'm
senator
wayne
harper
recently
reappointed
as
co-chair
of
the
ncsl
standing
committees,
glad
to
be
back
again
with
you.
I
serve
on
several
committees
in
utah,
I'm
the
senate
president
pro
tem,
and
I
guess
I'm
just
a
youngster
here,
because
I'm
only
in
my
26th
session.
C
Thank
you.
Senator
senator
hanov.
B
Good
morning,
senator
hunna
from
south
dakota
I'm
a
kid,
but
we
have
term
limits
in
south
dakota
and
I'm
completing
my
22nd
year
in
the
legislature,
so
with
term
limits,
that's
pretty
good.
I
chair
joint
appropriations.
C
Thank
you,
representative,
kavanagh.
D
Hi,
it's
great
great,
to
see
everyone
again.
I'm
a
woman
carol!
Murphy
I
serve
as
the
majority
whip
in
the
new
jersey
general
assembly.
We
just
finished
the
election
last
year,
so
we
just
got
sworn
in
on
tuesday
and
everyone's
returning
to
the
220th
legislative
session,
I'm
actually
beginning
as
of
wednesday.
So
it's
great
to
see
everyone
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all.
C
A
A
G
Hi,
I'm
barry
esther,
I'm
from
montana
I'm
a
majority
whip
judiciary,
chair
chair
of
the
criminal
justice
oversight
council
and
with
ncsl,
I'm
co-chair
with
assembly,
woman,
murphy
for
the
state
and
federal
relations,
and
I'm
also
the
vice
chair
of
the.
A
Morning
tim
bonnell
from
the
missouri
house
of
representatives
and.
G
I
am
the
communications
specialist
and
photojournalist
with
the
house
communications
office
and
I'm
in
my
27th
year
with
the
legislature.
B
I'm
martin
brock,
north
carolina
chief
of
the
north
carolina
general
assembly
police
and
I'm
on
the
lscc
strategic
planning,
the
I.t
sub
and
the
subcommittee
for
institutions
meeting
and
agenda
former
president
of
the
services
and
security
association,
and
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
H
Director
at
the
legislative
peer
committee
here
in
mississippi
with
ncsl,
I'm
also
one
of
the
staff
co-chairs
for
the
overall
standing
committees,
as
well
as
the
vice
chair
on
the
state
federal
group,
and
excited
to
be
here
and
look
forward.
C
Thank
you
another
early
riser,
sarah
elmore
hernandez.
B
Hello
good
morning,
my
name
is
sarah
moore,
hernandez.
E
C
Thank
you.
Well,
thanks
for
being
here,
sabrina
lowell.
B
Thank
you
casey
john
snyder
yeah
gene
thanks
john
snyder,
I'm
the
committee
staff
administrator
with
the
kentucky
general
assembly
and
the
website
research
commission
been
with
the
legislature
for
over
30
years
and
j.j
gendry
gave
me
a
a
year
off.
I
don't
want
to
chair
a
vice
chair
anything
this
time.
B
Betsy
thoreau,
hey,
I'm
betsy
theroux,
director
of
house
media
services
for
the
georgia
house
and
I
just
have
to
say
it
again:
go
dogs.
C
Of
course,
okay,
we
do
have
a
quorum,
mr
chair,
if
I
could
take
an
opportunity
to
have
ncsl
staff
introduce
themselves
quickly
as
well
I'll
go
left
the
order
on
my
screen,
laura.
E
Good
morning,
everyone
laura
toddler.
I'm
the
director
of
the
state
policy,
research
division
at
ncsl
and
my
function
on
this
committee
is
to
keep
you
apprised
of
our
grant
and
contract
work
and
to
get
your
permission
to
move
forward
with
proposals.
B
B
B
Hi,
I'm
karen
henderson,
I'm
associate
director
of
marketing
responsible
for
promoting
the
meetings
most
of
the
meetings,
including
summit
and
base
camp
and
other
meetings
for
ncsl.
H
Hello,
it's
nice
to
see
you
all
amy
skinner,
director
of
outreach
and
engagement,
which
also
includes
marketing,
and
I
have
a
lovely
team
of
people
working
hard
to
make
sure
that
we
are
getting
great
information
out
to
all
of
our
members,
including
you
all
so
nice
to
see
you
all.
Thank
you.
Nick.
F
Good
morning,
y'all
mick
bullock,
public
affairs
director
for
ncsl
all
the
great
stuff
of
media,
social
media
and
broadcasting
files
under
my
purview
and
then
also
everything
else
that
chairman
kennedy
needs
me
to
do
we
just
we
just
do
it.
So
thank
y'all
good
to
see
y'all
this
morning.
C
Thank
you,
mick
kristen,.
B
C
Thank
you,
kristen
caroline.
B
Morning,
everyone
I'm
kevin
pewlow
with
the
also
at
the
foundation
team.
B
There
she
is
hello,
I
am
lynette
vasquez.
I
am
the
senior
program
specialist.
I
work
under
our
ceo
tim
storey
and
our
ceo
victor
and
you
received
plenty
of
emails
from
me.
I
was
looking
forward
to
connecting
with
you
in
person
but
we'll
see
each
other
in
seattle.
C
Thank
you
lynette,
and
I
did
not
introduce
myself,
I'm
gene
ervin's
director
of
communications
for
ncso.
So,
mr
chairman,
back
over
to
you,
thank
you.
A
A
A
You
previously
saw
her
in
introduced
as
one
of
our
staff
persons
ncsl
director
of
state
policy.
Research
is
laura
tobler
she's,
going
to
present
the
grant
and
contract
report
and
also
she's
gonna,
tell
us
which
page
of
the
the
agenda
book
we
can
look
at
as
she's
going
along
with
these
specific
proposals.
So
laura
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
you.
E
When
we
were
talking
about
the
weather,
so
you
can
find
the
grant
and
contract
report
starting
on
page
88,
there's
a
link
in
the
chat,
if
you
don't
have
that
open
on
your
computer
and
the
purpose
of
this
committee
is
to
review
the
proposals
that
ncsl
submits
for
various
help,
financial
help
with
doing
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
policy,
and
today
we
have
two
proposals
for
your
review
and
decision,
and
we
usually
have
more
just
for
those
that
are
new
to
the
committee.
E
But
since
we
just
met
in
november-
and
there
was
a
big
holiday
in
between
we-
we
only
have
two
this
morning.
So
if
you
all
are
on
page
88,
you
can
follow
along
with
me.
The
very
first
one
is
is
called
strengthening
legislative
capacity
around
health
care
costs,
and
it's
really
to
fund
some
of
the
work
that
we're
already
doing,
but
not
doing
proactively.
E
Around
helping
legislators
understand
their
role
with
health
care
costs
and
really
getting
the
data.
They
need
to
be
able
to
do
their
work.
So
this
proposal
is
going
to
arnold
ventures
and
it's
for
a
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand
dollars
we're
not
a
hundred
percent
certain
about
those
deliverables.
But
we
think
we'll
do
a
smallish
meeting
a
webinar
and
a
few
publications.
E
I'll
take
questions
after
since
we're
since
we're
remote.
So
let
me
go
through
the
second
one
and
then
we
can.
We
can
open
it
for
questions
about
those
proposals,
so
the
second
one
is
developing
a
work
group
on
portability
of
benefits
for
independent
contract
workers.
E
So,
as
the
workforce
changes
in
america,
we're
seeing
that
we're
getting
more
questions
on
this,
so
we
submitted
a
proposal
to
amazon
for
140
000
dollars
and
it
would
create
a
work
group
of
legislators
and
possibly
legislative
staff
who
would
work
together
to
create
a
document
that
would
help
others
understand
number
one
sort
of
what's
going
on
in
the
country
and
number
two
some
recommendations
for
things
to
look
at
and
and
perhaps
a
checklist
of
of
items.
E
If
a
legislator
is
working
on
this
issue,
a
checklist
for
them
to
to
reference
on
what
are
the
important
things
you
need
to
know
before
you
move
forward
with
your
bill
and
that's
typically
what
our
work
groups
will
will
produce.
So
that
will
start
both
of
those
would
start
relatively
soon
in
february,
but
they're
not
signed,
sealed
and
delivered
at
this
point.
So
does
anyone
have
any
questions.
A
Any
questions
for
laura.
E
Hearing
none,
mr
chairman,
if
I
could
also
just
refer
the
group
to
the
fact
that
I've
updated
the
status
of
the
previously
approved
projects,
so
those
that
were
approved
at
the
legislative
summit
in
november
and
those
directly
followed
the
two
that
I
just
referenced.
We
did
get
funding
for.
Most
of
those.
Some
are
still
in
negotiation,
but
I
feel
pretty
strongly
that
they'll
come
through.
A
So
with
these
two
particular
grants,
I'm
assuming
that
we
need
to
have
a
motion
to
to
move
passage,
so
we
could
pass
this
on
to
the
full
executive
committee.
So
I
will
seek
a
motion
at
this
time.
A
We
have
a
motion
and
I.
A
The
educating
legislators
about
today's
students,
affordability
and
non-tuition
costs
in
higher
education,
ranked
choice,
voting
study,
which
is
funded,
supporting
the
center
for
excellence
in
project
finance
on
transportation.
A
That
decision
is
being
delayed
until
spring
of
2022
preparing
state
legislative
legislatures
to
lead
the
new
higher
education
landscape
that
one
is
funded
at
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
as
a
subcontract
with
the
state
higher
education
executive
officers,
association
and
then
there
were
a
couple
status
of
renewals.
One
was
informing
justice
policy.
A
The
safety
and
justice
challenge
initiative
that
one
was
approved
by
the
board
in
his
waiting
contract
completion.
There's
also
the
annie
e
casey
foundation,
20
21-22
project
that
one
was
funded
at
354
thousand
633.
A
There
was
building
legislative
knowledge
and
awareness
of
research
to
support
effective
school
leadership.
Right
now
we
have
a
verbal
approval
on
that
one.
At
two
hundred
thousand,
there
was
one
on
strengthening
the
legislative
role
in
shaping
prescription
drug
policy
and
that
one
was
approved
for
a
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
awaiting
the
contract
completion.
A
And
then
we
have
a
few
more
here.
There
was
one
on
contextualizing
campaign
finance
new
mexico
compared
to
other
states
that
one
was
funded
at
35
000
addressing
health
disparities
was
funded
at
18
000
and
there
was
one
on
cancer
care
being
funded
at
25
000
by
amgen.
So
laura
did
you
have
any
other
things
that
you
wanted
to
add.
E
I
I
do
not,
mr
chairman,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
so
the
renewals
are
projects
that
we've
had
some
of
them.
We've
had
for
decades,
others
we've
just
had
for
a
few
years,
and
since
this
body
has
already
approved
those
in
the
past,
I
only
put
it
forward
as
needing
review
if
it
fundamentally
changes
in
scope.
So
that's
what
a
re
a
renewal
is
so.
A
You,
colleagues,
anyone
have
any
other
questions
for
laura
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
item.
A
C
C
B
Yeah
here
I
am
yeah
sorry,
I
had
a
little
trouble
signing
out
and
I
don't
know
what
I
was
doing,
but
the
link
wasn't
working
yeah.
No,
I
I'm
I'm
not
actually
on
the
bylaws
committee,
but
I'm
glad
to
listen
into
every
subcommittee.
So
since
I'm
new,
I
can
sort
of
figure
out.
What's
going
on.
I
appreciate
y'all.
C
Thank
you
representative.
So
the
the
2021
summit
was
the
first
one
we've
held
since
august
of
2019..
You
know
the
the
covet
canceled
the
2020
meeting,
so
we
had
to
scramble.
We
originally
were
scheduled
for
chicago
in
august
of
last
year,
and
we
realized
that
around
march
or
april
that
it
just
wasn't
going
to
work.
C
So
we
scrambled
big
props
out
to
our
meetings,
director,
christian
schaz
and
her
staff,
who
got
us
out
of
all
of
our
chicago
hotel
contracts,
we're
going
to
be
meeting
there
in
2026,
there's
a
herculean
effort
on
her
part
to
get
us
out
of
out
of
those
contracts
without
any
penalty
at
all.
So
we
settled
on
tampa
and
it
generally
has
worked
out
for
us.
We
drew
about
half
of
what
we
typically
draw,
but
that's
kind
of
what
we
expected.
C
Those
were
good
numbers
given
the
pandemic
and
first
time
we've
ever
held
a
summit.
In
the
month
of
november,
we
had
more
than
540
legislators
who
attended
and
more
than
360
staff
and
based
on
the
survey
results
which
you
can
see,
starting
on
page
92
in
the
agenda
book.
The
meeting
was
successful
and
karen
henderson,
who
produced
this
survey,
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
as
well.
C
I
would
note
that,
as
tim
reported
in
his
ceo
report,
we
used
a
net
promoter
score
and
we
received
a
41
score
compared
to
39
in
nashville
and
in
that
category
those
meetings
were
considered
great.
So
we
feel
very
good
about
how
we
scrambled
and
how
the
tampa
turned
out.
C
The
biggest
complaint
we
got
by
far
was
the
quality
of
the
food
cold,
wet
soggy
sandwiches,
I
think,
was
kind
of
the
general
feedback
that
we
got,
but
the
convention
center.
We
had
very
limited
choices
on
what
you
know
what
vendors
we
could
use.
So
we
will,
as
tim,
put
in
his
report.
Well
that
will
not
be
asking
the
tampa
convention
center
to
cater
the
denver
meeting,
so
the
other
results
that
we
had
were
very
heartening.
C
If
you
look
at
the
numbers
of
note
section,
95
percent
said
they
would
attend
the
future
summits.
Legislators
largely
agreed
that
the
sessions
were
balanced,
and
the
highlight
for
me
is
that
more
than
70
percent
of
legislators
and
staff
said
they
plan
to
use
the
skills.
The
training
and
the
information
that
they
got
to
take
back
home
for
new
ideas
for
for
their
state.
So
I
think,
I'm
very
heartened
by
that.
So
I'm
open
to
hearing
any
reactions
of
members
regarding
their
personal
experience
at
the
summit.
A
All
right,
anyone
have
any
questions
for
gene
or
anyone
have
any
questions
regarding
the
survey
that
was
given
and
I
think
pretty
much
everyone
received.
A
A
So
we
we
had
a
a
a
fair
way
to
judge
this
when
you
consider
that
everything
had
to
be
pulled
together
so
quickly.
I
think
the
entire
staff
did
a
phenomenal
job,
trying
to
create
a
legislative
summit
when
we
started
out
not
even
knowing
whether
we
were
going
to
have
any
type
of
in-person
meeting
at
all,
and
I
can
tell
you
personally,
we
had
the
largest
attendance
ever
from
the
state
of
rhode
island.
A
We
had
16
legislators
and
one
staff
person
and
overwhelmingly
the
the
members
who
attended
were
so
positive
about
things
and
have
expressed
a
greater
interest
in
getting
involved.
So
I
was
very
very
happy
to
to
see
that
and-
and
I
think
it
may
actually
be
because
of
the
fact
that
it
was
held
in
november
as
opposed
to
the
summer
months
when
people
are
getting
together
with
family
or
enjoying
the
beach
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
A
D
Mr
chairman,
this
is
senator
baldwin
from
wisconsin.
I
do
have
a
a
question
from
mr
rose.
You
you
state
in
your
overview.
There
was
a
12
respondents
rate
for
attendees
wondering
if
some
of
the
supplementary
questionnaires
you
sent
out,
you
got
anything
anything
in
addition
or
where
do
you
think
you
need
to
be
to
have
a
have
a
significant
response
level
for
a
survey
such
as
this.
C
It's
an
excellent
question
and
I'll
ask
karen
to
jump
in
as
well,
but
typically
in
marketing
when
you
get
a
10
return
rate
that
is
kind
of
a
standard
in
the
industry
and
karen
you
can
support
me
or
tell
me
I'm
wrong
with
that.
No.
B
She
no
you're
exactly
right,
that's
about
what
we
get.
Typically,
when
we
look
back
at
past
summits,
that's
about
the
typical
response,
and
you
know
it's
gauging.
How
many
times
do
we
send
the
email
out
to
folks?
We
certainly
don't
want
to
pester
folks,
but
you
know
we
definitely
want
to
get
a
good
response
as
well.
So
that's
about
typical.
C
And
I
will
say
senator
too
that
natalie
was
doing
some
surveying
of
legislators,
while
we
were
actually
on
site
in
in
tampa
to
get
some
demographic
surveys,
so
we're
we're
kind
of
looking
at
that
as
another
option.
Perhaps
to
get
more
more
responses
for
for
the
meeting.
G
Just
a
comment,
mr
chair,
yes,
representative,
usher,
I've
seen
that
to
get
more
surveys,
a
couple
of
organizations
I'm
involved
with
will
throw
a
carrot
out
there,
like
next
summit,
is
free
or
something,
and
they
draw
one
name
of
everybody
that
responds
not
sure
if
that'll
work
because
of
some
of
our
state
laws,
but
some
kind
of
carry
it
like
that,
and
something
that's
not
really
going
to
cost
much.
A
Thank
you
representation,
but
I
I
think
representative,
russia,
you're
you're
right
in
the
past.
When
you
went
through
the
trade
exhibition
hall,
you
got
the
folks
at
the
booths
to
initial
the
fact
that
you
came
by
their
booth
and
you
had
a
chance
to
potentially
win
the
opportunity
to
have
your
summit
costs.
Registration
cost
covered,
and
this
may
be
some
type
of
way
to.
Since
I
don't
know
that
we
did
it.
A
I
don't
recall
us
having
one
of
those
things
for
the
exhibition
hall
this
time,
but
this
may
be
something
to
think
about
in
future
years
in
order
to
get
or
drive
additional
people
to
hopefully
fill
out
the
survey,
although
sometimes
these
surveys
are
are
done
blindly.
A
So
unless
you
submit
your
actual
name
and
your
email
address,
there
might
not
be
a
way
to
figure
out
who
that
person
is.
That
is
the
winner.
A
Any
other
questions
regarding
the
tampa
summit.
A
Well,
then,
gene,
I
think
we're
going
to
roll
right
into
the
denver
summit,
and
I
know
we
have
dates
that
have
been
chosen
for
august
first
to
the
third,
although
I
did
read
that
that
may
still
be
in
negotiation.
C
Absolutely
representative
kennedy:
let
me
go
through
kind
of
just
a
couple
of
changes
in
the
schedule
for
for
this
year,
which
again
you
can
see
on
page
96
of
your
agenda
book.
The
tampa
meeting
was
two
and
a
half
days
and
that
had
a
lot
to
do
with
you
know
we
struggled
to
get
faculty
and
different
things
and
obviously
covet
had
an
impact
on
the
meeting.
So
we
only
went
two
and
a
half
days
which,
which
seemed
to
work
so
we're
going
to
a
full
three-day
schedule
here.
C
You'll
recall
that
in
nashville
we
actually
had
four
days
plus
the
additional
day
for
the
executive
committee,
so
it
ended
up
being
five
days
if
you
served
on
the
lscc
or
executive
committee,
so
we
reduced
it
to
three
days
and
we
just
feel
like
that
will
allow
for
more
policy
sessions,
professional
development,
institutional
sessions,
we're
also
gonna,
encourage
some
on-site
workshops
here
and
work
on
getting
a
closing
event
that
will
really
keep
people.
C
So,
as
you
mentioned,
representative
kennedy
we
are
kristin
is
negotiating
with
the
convention
center
and
hotels.
We
are
looking
at
possibly
moving
this
to
a
tuesday
thursday
meeting.
We've
heard
some
comments
from
people
that
they'd
rather
not
travel
over
the
weekend
plus
this
might
allow
people
to
add
vacation
days
on
before
or
after
the
meeting.
So
so
we
are
looking
at
that
and
within
the
next
two
weeks,
we'll
have
a
firm
decision
on
whether
or
not
that's
going
to
going
to
happen
again.
C
This
is
a
draft
schedule
we're
open
to
any
suggestions
on
on
change.
We
definitely
want
to
get
get
your
reaction
on
these.
One
of
the
things
that
has
typically
happened
with
this
committee
in
the
past
is
that
the
members
suggest
topics
for
sessions
or
professional
development
that
they
would
like
to
see
at
the
upcoming
summit.
So
I'm
open
to
taking
those
suggestions,
recommendations
or
any
other
suggestions
on
the
schedule.
A
C
Under
this
current
schedule,
so
again,
everything
that
we
have
here
would
just
shift
over
one
more
one
more
day.
So
if
it
did
shift
to
a
tuesday
thursday
schedule,
then
the
closing
event
would
be
on
on
thursday,
and
state
night
would
be
on
on
wednesday.
Yeah.
A
How
how
do
you
expect
to
keep
the
legislators
there
on
that
last
because
unless
they
have
some
type
of
meetings
scheduled
on
that
wednesday
afternoon
or
thursday
afternoon,
whatever
day
it
happens
to
be,
I
have
a
feeling
we're
going
to
see
a
mass
exodus
to
the
denver
airport
and
people
are
not
going
to
stay
unless
there's
something
the
next
day.
A
I
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
very
problematic
at
this
point
in
time,
if
you're
looking
to
hold
a
closing
event
or
a
social
event
on
that
last
night,
but
you
have
nothing
to
keep
them
after
the
afternoon
general
session
to
keep
them
there
other
than
to
to
go
sightseeing
around
denver
and
things
such
as
that-
and
you
know,
some
people
are
probably
at
that
point
just
going
to
say
I'm
going
to
go
home
because
I
can
get
an
extra
day
of
work
in
tomorrow.
C
It's
it's
a
question
that
we
we
ponder
deeply
and
when
you
brought
that
up
a
big
smile
came
across
kristen's
face
because
she
says
exactly
the
the
same
thing.
One
of
the
models
represented
kennedy
that
that
I
clearly
remember
was
a
boston
meeting
in
2007,
where
we
ended
the
night
with
the
boston,
pops
orchestra
and
they
had
fireworks
and
stuff
like
that,
and
that
held
a
lot
of
people.
I
don't
know
that
we
can
exactly
recreate
that
type
of
thing
that
will
keep
people,
but
that's
what
we're
going
to
work
on.
C
We
know
that
any
meeting,
whether
we
had
it
for
three
days
or
two
days
or
four
days
people
are
going
to
leave
on
that
afternoon
of
the
last
day.
There's
just
you
know
there.
All
the
industry,
information
and
statistics
show
that
that's
just
going
to
happen.
So
one
of
the
things
that
you'll
see
on
the
schedule
there
is
that
we're
planning
on
doing
some
on-site
workshops
there's
a
lot
of
interesting
things
going
on
in
denver.
C
We
think
that
if
we
get
people
to
two
different
places
like
a
juvenile
justice
corrections
center
or
or
maybe
something
at
red
rocks-
or
you
know-
we've
got
this
marijuana
industry
in
denver
that
people
are
very
interested
in
so
maybe
tours
to
those
type
of
things.
So
I
think
we're
gonna
try
to
do
that
type
of
stuff
so
that
we
so
that
people
say
yeah
it'd
be
worth
me
to
stay.
For
that
tour.
Go
to
that
social
event
and
then
I
can
leave
first
thing
thursday
morning.
C
A
Now
and
then
the
other
question
is
originally
or
based
on
this
schedule.
Right
now,
the
only
people
who
actually
would
be
coming
in
on
sunday
would
be
executive
committee
members,
and
unless
you
have
I'm
assuming
a
pre-conference,
you
wouldn't
be
actually
arriving
on
sunday
unless.
C
You
like
coming
in
on
saturday
all
right
and
that's
why
we're
thinking
about
moving
that
that,
over
one
more
day
to
to
you,
know
not
take
up
a
person's
entire
weekend
in
order
to
get
there
yeah
okay
and
we
do
have
several
free
conferences,
and
I
forget
how
many
we
had
in
tampa
kristen,
but
typically
a
dozen
or
more
right.
B
You
representative
kennedy,
so
as
we
look
at
this
event
here,
I
think
I
like
the
layout
of
it
again.
I
share
the
concerns
with
the
having
a
big
event
on
the
final
day
of
the
of
the
meeting
on
wednesday.
B
However,
if
it's
something
big
like
you
know,
like
you,
like
representative
kennedy,
a
big
symphony
or
concert
at
red
rocks
or
a
ball
game,
or
maybe
we
go
up
to
georgetown
and
right
the
train
or
something
like
that,
yeah
we'll
lose
a
lot
of
people,
so
it
needs
to
be
really
good
and
a
great
wrap-up
of
the
entire
conference
yeah.
C
And
representative
harper,
I'm
senator
harper,
I'm
sorry!
The
rockies
are
out
of
town
that
that
week,
so
we
won't
have
a
game
in
town
to
go
to.
A
Well,
this
will
be
interesting
to
see
so
I
guess
we
can
only
say
stay
tuned,
we'll
we'll
know
sometime
in
the
next
several
weeks
and
then
will
that
be
disseminated
to
all
the
members
that
the
that
the
dates
have
been
adjusted.
Yes,.
B
C
Yeah
and
amy,
and
our
marketing
team
of
course,
is
very
anxious
to
know
what
the
dates
are,
so
they
can
start
promoting
them
as
well.
So
yeah
we
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
hinging
on
this,
but
kristin
is
already
in
negotiation,
so
we
should
know
pretty
soon.
I
don't
know
if
kristin
there's
anything
else,
you
want
to
add.
B
We're
just
waiting
to
hear
we
have
about
13
hotels,
so
we
just
have
to
go
through
all
the
hotels
waiting
to
hear
from
them
to
make
sure
we
can
shift
so
and
no
box
lunches.
We
only
did
that
for
it,
so
we
won't
have
to
do
that
again.
Ever
hopefully,.
G
I
just
want
to
make
the
comment
that
if
you
don't
have
the
closing
session
as
that
lunch
have
the
closing
session
at
like
four
in
the
afternoon,
one
it'll
give
more
people
time
to
go
through
the
exhibit
floor
and
then
you'll
get
more
people
to
stay
if
it's
actually
later
in
the
day,
because
psychologically,
if
people
say
that's
closing
thing,
I'm
gone
so
if
you're
closing
things
at
four
to
five,
they
probably
can't
get
a
flight
out
late
at
night
anyway.
So
that's
how
you're
gonna
get
people
to
stay
but
as.
E
C
That's
a
great
point
chris,
and
I
actually
had
that
conversation
yesterday,
so
I
think
we
will.
You
will
be
seeing
us
adjusting
that
accordingly,.
A
But
the
reality
is
once
that
lunch
is
done,
they're
already
packing
up
their
exhibits
as
well.
So
the
question
is:
would
they
be
sticking
around
until
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
to
keep
the
exhibit
hall
open?
If,
in
fact,
there
are
no
legislators
that
are
going
to
be
there
so
somehow?
For
that
last
day,
things
are
going
to
have
to
be
very,
very
robust
to
to
keep
not
only
the
exhibitors
there
but
to
keep
the
legislators
there
as
well,
and
that
that
I
think,
is
going
to
be
a
very,
very
big
challenge.
A
So,
as
representative
usher
said,
if
you
have
a
lunch,
that's
gonna
wrap
up
by
1
30
in
the
afternoon.
The
last
thing
you
want
is
people
leaving
that
lunch
at
one
o'clock
to
head
off
to
the
airport
because
they
know
they
can
still
catch
a
flight
out
that
evening.
A
Whereas
if,
if
you
wait
and
do
some
type
of
wrap-up
thing
later
in
the
afternoon,
that
keeps
them
at
the
exhibit
hall
or
keeps
them
at
the
convention
center
and
then
still
have
that
social
event.
Then
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
there
is
a
certain
number
of
room
nights
that
ncsl
was
trying
to
to
lock
in
in
order
to
keep
the
rates
down
for
people.
But
I
imagine
that
may
be
why
you're
looking
to
hold
a
a
social
event
that
last
night.
C
A
Do
we
have
any
other
questions
comments
regarding
the
proposed
summit
for
august
of
2022.
A
Oh
natalie
is
leaving
us
okay.
Thank
you,
natalie
all
right,
so
I
think
then
what
we
will
do.
I
also
want
to
call
on
colorado
senator
robert
rodriguez
for
some
comment.
He's
a
member
of
the
host
committee
is
robert
here.
A
All
right
and
then
one
other
thing
did
any
of
our
members
here-
have
any
ideas
that
they
would
like
to
see
as
potential
session
topics
for
the
denver
meeting.
A
Well,
that's
something
to
think
about,
because
obviously
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
have
general
sessions
within
that
particular
meeting.
And
if
there's
something
specific
that
you'd
like
to
see
feel
free
to
email
us
either
to
jean
or
to
mick
or
to
to
any
of
our
ncsl
staff,
so
that
we
can
potentially
include
those
in
senator
hunoff.
B
C
Yes,
absolutely
we're
asking
we're
going
to
be
asking
our
staff
to
come
up
with
ideas
this
week
and
are
giving
them
till
mid-february
to
give
us
ideas,
so
around
mid-february
is
when
we're
going
to
be
doing
our
first
round
of
looking
at
sessions,
so
that's
kind
of
the
first
time
frame
and
then
later
about
a
month
later,
six
weeks
later,
we'll
be
asking
for
a
second
round
of
comments.
So
that's
that's
our
schedule
internally.
Right
now,.
A
Excellent
and
representative
cobb
hunter.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
just
curious,
and
I
like
the
idea
of
us
having
a
chance
to
think
about
it.
Is
there
anything
that
the
staff
could
share
with
us
as
far
as
guidelines
or
parameters,
so
that,
as
we
give
thought
to
workshops,
we
are
in
compliance
with
whatever
guidelines
that
you
all
have
established.
C
So
that's
a
great
question
we'll
be
sending
that
out
to
our
staff
next
week,
so
I
can
make
that
available
to
this
committee
as
well,
and
just
let
the
I'll,
let
you
all
know
what
what
we're,
what
we're
looking
for.
But
essentially
you
know
it's
any
any
topic,
we're
pretty
much
open
to
any
ideas
we
like
to
make
sure
we
especially
want
our
sessions
to
be
balanced
politically,
so
those
are
really
the
major
guidelines
but
I'll
be
glad
to
send
out
the
more
refined
items
that
we
send
out
staff.
D
Thank
you,
and,
of
course,
that
would
include
like
the
time
are
they
for
30
45
minutes
two
hour,
those
kinds
of
things,
and
I
would
just
like
to
detail
the
comments
that
have
already
been
expressed
about
the
timing
of
the
last
day
and
doing
things
to
make
sure
that
people
will
stay
because
again
as
a
legislator.
I
know
I
would
be
getting
out
of
dodge
as
soon
as
I
could
thanks
so
much
right.
B
I
just
had
a
question:
should
we
send
those
suggestions
to
gene
directly
or
is
there
someone
else.
A
Gene
just
popped
his
in
the
little
chat
box
gene
has
put
his
email
address,
so
feel
free
to
send
that
to
gene,
and
then
he
can
ensure
that
all
the
staff
that
are
working
on
this
will
be
ready
for
the
february
when
they
start
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
this.
C
We
have
a
system
of
there
are
about
12
track.
What
we
call
track
track
leads
so
that
you
know
things
are
under
different
programs,
so
I'll
make
sure
that
that
gets
to
the
to
the
right
people.
A
A
A
All
right,
I
think,
then
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
our
next
agenda
item.
This
one
deals
with
the
ncsl
strategic
plan.
At
the
executive
committee
meeting
in
tampa,
the
executive
committee
approved
a
new
strategic
plan
for
21
to
2025
at
the
legislative
summit.
A
I
hope
she's
on
by
now,
stacy
householder,
who's,
ncsl's,
director
of
leadership,
training
and
international
programs
is
going
to
provide
us.
A
review
of
the
document
which
is
also
in
the
agenda
book,
is
stacy
on.
I
Yes,
thank
you
speaker
pro
tem
good
good,
to
see
you
and
good
to
see.
All
of
you,
sorry,
I'm
bouncing
back
and
forth
between
the
the
budget
committee
and
this
one,
but
was
pleased
to
hear
that
discussion
you
just
had
on
the
summit.
I
will
give
you
all
a
brief
overview
of
the
strategic
plan
that
ncsl
has
passed
for
fiscal
year
2021-25.
I
It
is
also
located
in
your
pdf
executive
committee
book.
I
just
put
that
link
in
the
chat
and
it
is
on
page
97..
It's
a
it's
a
four-page
document
that
gives
a
really
nice
overview
of
the
areas
we're
going
to
focus
on
so
the
officers
of
ncsl
embarked
upon
creating
this
strategic
plan
before
the
pandemic
began.
I
So
our
process
became
elongated
when
when
the
pandemic
hit,
so
we
now
have
a
really
robust
strategic
plan
that
was
that
was
passed
in
tampa
and
at
the
executive
committee
prior
to
that,
and
we
are
well
underway
with
funding
the
initiatives
that
you
see
in
this
particular
strategic
plan.
So
first
I
want
to
just
highlight
the
four
areas
of
initiatives:
the
first
one
being
improving
member
engagement
and
participation
in
ncsl.
I
The
second
one
is
identifying
alternative
revenue
streams,
in
addition
to
the
state
appropriations
that
ncsl
assesses
every
year.
The
third
one
is
promote
the
legislative
institution
and
ncsl's
brand.
That
one
is
probably
very
familiar.
It's
obviously
the
key
tenant
of
ncsl's
mission
and
the
fourth
one
is
elevate
national
bipartisan
conversations.
I
So
there
are
several
initiatives
within
each
of
these
buckets
that
the
officers
and
the
executive
committee
have
identified,
and
we
in
fiscal
year
21
so
the
the
year
that
we
already
started.
We
already
started
some
of
these
initiatives
and
we
funded
just
under
700
000
in
fiscal
year
22,
which
is
the
current
fiscal
year
that
we
are
in.
So
we
put
a
lot
of
money
into
these
initiatives
and
are
on
board
much
of
that
funding
came
from
grants
from
the
ncsl
foundation.
So
a
big
thank
you
to
our
foundation.
I
Just
under
700
000
is
about
a
third
of
the
initiatives.
We
are
also
preparing
for
fiscal
year,
23
to
fund
another
third
of
the
initiatives
that
you
see
in
this
document.
In
that
book,
I
want
to
highlight
just
a
few
that
we
have
undertaken
this
year,
one
in
in
this
first
year
of
funding
the
strategic
plan.
We,
we
really
took
a
hard
look
at
our
member
engagement
and
communications
realm
and
put
a
significant
chunk
of
money
to
to
member
engagement.
I
So,
as
gene
mentioned,
we
have
deployed
a
legislator,
demographic
survey,
we've
deployed
a
committee
chair
survey
and
we
also
have
a
staff
survey.
That's
out
there
in
the
works
right
now
too,
to
really
get
the
best
data
we
can
on
the
members
of
ncsl
we're
also
taking
a
hard
look
into
our
website
and
starting
a
kind
of
a
multi-year
project
to
revamp
our
website,
as
well
as
our
graphics
and
branding
for
ncsl.
I
We've
put
some
resources
into
civility
working
on
creating
resources
that
states
can
use
on
a
regular
basis
and
civility
because
we
know
that
that
partisanship
the
temperature
has
gone
up
on
partisanship.
So
how
can
ncsl
as
an
organization,
really
increase,
civility
and
then
we're
also
reviewing
our
state
liaison
programs
and
our
state
coordinator
programs,
and
then
last
but
not
least,
I
want
to
highlight.
We
have
put
some
money
towards
identifying
and
providing
professional
development
for
affinity
groups
and
those
two
affinity
groups
that
we've
completed
thus
far
are
actually
legislative
staff
groups.
I
One
is
lsmi
the
legislative
staff
management
institute
and
the
other
was
the
first
of
its
kind
meeting
for
chiefs
of
staff
to
legislative
leaders
across
the
country
and
both
of
those
events
happened
in
2021
and
were
quite
successful.
So
we're
looking
to
continue
those
again
I'd,
encourage
you
to
make
yourself
familiar
with
this
document,
we'll
be
continuing
to
talk
about
it
at
each
executive
committee
until
we
have
fulfilled
our
goals
laid
out
in
the
strategic
plan
thanks
everyone-
and
I
appreciate
any
comments
you
might
have
or
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
This
committee
is
also
responsible
for
monitoring
the
outreach
efforts
at
ncsl,
so
we're
going
to
call
on
amy
skinner
who's,
the
ncsl
outreach
and
engagement
director
who's
going
to
brief
the
members
of
recent
outreach
activities
and
will
also
reference
that
information
from
a
report
in
the
book.
So
amy.
H
So
the
reported
starts
on
page
101.
It's
a
quick
two-page
overview
of
the
last
about
eight
weeks
or
so
since
the
november
meeting
in
lieu
of
a
short
time
frame
here
I
want
to
make
sure
I
leave
some
time
for
my
colleague,
mick
I'll
refer
mostly
to
the
report.
I'm
going
to
highlight
just
a
couple,
quick
things.
We
did
do
a
small
campaign,
the
same
type
of
campaign.
We
did
in
2020
to
welcome
the
new
newly
elected
legislators
from
new
jersey
and
virginia,
and
that
was
very
well
received.
H
The
2022
ncsl
calendar
has
been
mailed
out
along
with
our
winter
state,
legislatures
magazine,
if
you
haven't
seen
that
in
your
office
yet
be
watching
for
it
there's
also
a
link
to
the
digital
version
and
on
page
101
in
your
book
here
and
the
state
legislatures
magazine
winter
edition
is
focused
on
it's
the
money
issue.
It's
a
phenomenal
issue.
So
make
sure
you
check
that
out.
We
worked
with
angela
andrews
and
her
great
team
to
do
a
small
staff
appreciation
week
in
december
themed
get
ready
for
session
week
and
did
some
great
activities
there.
H
There's
more
about
that
in
the
report.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
also
mention
we
reached
a
lot
of
members
through
technical
assistance
and
training.
H
There
were
over
two
about
200
213
legislators
and
legislative
staff
reached
through
technical
assistance
policy
related
training
and
more
than
500,
through
14
different
professional
development
sessions
in
six
different
states.
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
and
we'll
open
it
up.
A
Think
next
on
our
agenda,
we're
going
to
hear
from
ncsl
public
affairs
and
broadcast
director
mick
bullock
for
a
brief
report.
Nick
good.
F
Morning,
good
morning
and
good
morning,
everyone
thank
you,
chairman
kennedy
for
allowing
me
just
a
few
moments:
real,
quick,
I'm
gonna
talk
real
real,
quick
on
three
different
things:
media,
podcast
and
social,
real,
quick
on
the
media
relations
point.
I
would
like
to
say
during
this
very
short
and
brief
time
period
here,
over
8
100
media
mentions
for
ncsl
to
give
you
put
that
in
perspective.
F
I
just
I
mean
for
for
last
year,
ncsl
was
mentioned
more
than
55
000
times,
so
we're
very,
very
proud
of
the
stone,
the
very
strong
brand
that
we
have
at
ncsl,
the
associated
press,
the
washington
post,
cnn,
fox
news,
etc.
I
want
to
move
on
now
to
one
of
my
other
favorite
subjects
podcast.
F
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
if
you've
got
your
phone
out
right
now-
and
I
know
you
do
it
is
time
to
take
a
look
and
download
the
latest
edition
of
the
ncsl
podcast.
In
fact,
your
very
own
chairman,
where
is
it?
Where
is
that
chairman
kennedy?
Look
at
him
chairman
kennedy
is
also
an
avid
listener
of
the
ncsl
podcast
series,
so
there
you
go
if
chairman
kennedy
can
listen
to
it.
You
can
too
we're
very
proud
of
what
we're
doing.
With
our
podcast
series.
F
We've
got
our
american
states,
which
kind
of
covers
more
of
a
policy
we
have
legislatures.
The
inside
story
with
your
very
own
tim
story,
goes
towards
more
of
a
leadership
perspective
and
our
third
one
building
democracy,
which
kind
of
covers
more
of
a
history
part
of
the
legislature.
So
again
we
have
three
great
opportunities,
as
you're
heading
on
to
the
capitol
one
day,
take
a
listen
to
one
of
those
awesome.
F
Podcasts
we'd
really
really
appreciate
it,
they're
again
available
on
all
the
platforms:
podcast,
stitcher,
apple,
podcast,
google,
et
cetera
and
then
last
but
not
least,
social
media.
Again,
if
you're
not
following
us,
you
need
to
we're,
of
course,
on
the
four
main
platform
platforms,
twitter,
facebook,
linkedin
and
instagram.
You
know
our
day-to-day
effort
is
really
trying
to
connect
with
you,
our
constituents
and
to
kind
of
give
you
an
example
there
we
can
tell
that
legislative
staff
really
engaged
with
us.
F
E
F
Going
to
kind
of
leave
it
at
that
we're
very
proud
of
of
all
three
items
there
that
follow
under
public
affairs,
media,
podcast
and
social,
be
sure
and
check
out
all
the
awesome
information
that
we're
putting
out
there
that
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
are
working
on
day
by
day.
Mr
chairman,
I'm
going
to
leave
it
to
that
for
time's
sake.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
help
you,
and,
as
also
I
will
mention,
though,
also
in
public
affairs.
F
A
A
We
are
now
I
guess,
on
to
other
business,
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
other
issues
or
ideas
that
people
want
to
bring
forth
before
we
wrap
up
today,
if
not,
keep
in
mind,
we
are
looking
for
ideas
for
general
sessions
and
things
so,
as
was
previously
noted,
we'd
love
to
get
your
feedback
on
that
ideas
for
some
of
those
sessions
that
we
can
use
in
the
denver
annual
summit,
and
if
there
are
no
other
questions,
then
I
think
we
will
adjourn.
A
We
hope
to
see
everyone
in
person
next
time
this
coming
spring
out
in
washington
dc.
Excuse
me
in
washington
state.
So
let's
hope
that
is
going
to
be
the
case.
We've
we've
already
tried
the
washington
dc
thing
and
that
didn't
work
out
well
so,
hopefully
the
other
washington
is
going
to
be
much
more
open
for
our
spring
meeting.
So
if
there
are
no
other
questions
or
comments,
I'll
take
a
motion
and
to
adjourn.