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From YouTube: The ADA’s Impact on Accessible Legislatures
Description
As we mark the 30th anniversary of the American with Disabilities Act, discover how some legislatures have made their buildings more accessible. Capitol renovations are an opportunity to incorporate ADA accommodations and make the buildings welcoming to all citizens. You will hear how accommodations were an integral part of renovation projects in multiple states. Learn what was needed, what was included and lessons learned about managing ADA needs - even after a renovation.
Speaker:
Wendy Madsen, Wyoming Legislative Service Office
David Hart, MOCA
Paul Brown, MOCA
Kevin Koch, Texas Capitol Architect
A
Good
morning
or
afternoon,
depending
on
where
you're
at
and
welcome
to
the
ncsl
webinar,
the
ada's
impact
on
accessible
legislatures.
A
My
name
is
wendy
madsen
and
I
am
the
special
project
manager
for
the
wyoming
legislative
service
office
and
I'm
going
to
be
moderating
our
seminar
today,
I'd
first
like
to
thank
the
national
conference
of
state
legislatures
for
sponsoring
this
webinar
one
of
the
purposes
of
ncsl
is
promoting
professional
development
opportunities
such
as
this,
and
especially
in
the
days
of
covid.
These
opportunities
are
very
welcome
and
ncsl
is
a
fantastic
leader
in
providing
remote
training.
So
I
encourage
you
to
take
advantage
of
that.
A
So
over
the
next
60
minutes,
we
encourage
you
to
participate
through
our
chat
box.
It's
located
in
the
lower
left
hand
side
of
your
screen
and
to
build
some
comfort
up
for
this
service.
We'd
like
to
have
you
enter
the
state
you're
participating
in
from
today
and
just
play
around
a
little
bit
with
the
chat
box
for
minutes
so
feel
free
to
enter
your
state
in
now.
So
we
can
see
where
you
are
participating
from.
A
A
Act,
it's
a
great
time
to
take
a
look
at
our
state
capitals
around
the
country
and
so
we're
going
to
look
today
at
a
few
different
capitals
and
what
they've
done
to
make
their
buildings
more
accessible.
In
wyoming.
We
just
celebrated
the
reopening
of
our
capital
about
a
year
ago
on
july
10
and
the
building
reopened
after
a
four
year:
300
million
dollar
restoration
and
that
restoration
was
overseen
by
a
group
called
the
capital
oversight
group,
which
was
comprised
of
our
governor
treasurer
and
members
of
legislative
leadership.
A
A
C
A
A
A
And
I
learned
a
tremendous
amount
about
buildings
and
restoration
in
the
ada,
but
I
am
not
an
ada
expert.
I
have
a
lot
of
focus
on
public
participation
in
the
process,
and
so
I
wanted
to
focus
a
little
bit
today
on
on
what
does
it
mean
truly
to
be
the
people's
house
and
so
around
the
country,
and
you
can
all
think
of
your
capital.
This
is
our
newly
restored
capital.
A
A
The
embodiment
of
public
policy
in
our
state-
and
they
really
exist
for
that
purpose,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
think
about
who
they
exist
for
do.
They
exist
for
some
of
the
people
or
all
of
the
people,
and
how
do
we
make
everybody
feel
included,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
share
with
you
a
few
stories
about
people,
and
the
first
story
is
a
story
about
my
niece
diana
and
diana
was
born
profoundly
deaf
in
both
ears
and
she
received
cochlear
implants
at
14
months
of
age.
A
Now,
cochlear
implants
are
have
been
a
wonderful,
life-changing
thing
for
nayana
she
can.
She
can
hear
and,
and
does
not
only
have
to
sign
she
can
she
can
hear
around
her.
However,
if
there's
ambient
noise
or
people
whispering
or
talking
hearing
is
still
very
often
a
challenge
for
her
as
it
is
for
many
people
with
hearing
aids
or
folks
who
are
just
hard.
A
So
for
nyana
to
participate
in
public
policy
as
she
grows
older
when
we
were
doing
this
restoration.
I
thought
about
her
a
lot
and
one
of
the
incredible
things
about
our
project
is
we
have
10
large
public
meeting
rooms
and
those
meeting
rooms
in
addition
to
our
chamber
galleries,
all
include
a
hearing
loop
system
that
exists
under
the
carpet
and
what
that
system
does
is
allow
people
like
diana
or
anyone
with
a
hearing
aid
to
come
into
the
room
and
that
hearing
loop
automatically
can
connect
to
her
cochlear
implants.
A
She
doesn't
have
to
feel
any
different
than
anybody
else.
She
can
come
into
the
room
and
participate
in
addition
to
the
hearing
loop.
We
also
have
the
ability,
if
you're
hard
of
hearing-
and
you
don't
have
hearing
aids,
to
check
out
an
amplification
device,
and
so
that's
just
one
story
about
how
we
can
help
people
fully
participate
in
the
process.
A
Many
many
years
and
mike
was
just
an
incredible
resource
along
the
way,
both
prior
to
the
restoration
and
even
during
the
restoration,
constantly
asking
me
in
our
temporary
building
about
different
issues.
He
had
encountered
along
the
way,
and
I
really
think
it's
important
to
kind
of
put
yourself
in
other
folks
shoes
and
we
all
over
our
lives
and
the
seasons
of
our
lives
have
different
different
issues
that
come
up,
and
I.
C
C
A
They
are
only
40
days,
long
in
a
general
session
and
20
days,
long
in
a
budget
session,
and
so
we
have
committee
meetings
that
start
at
7
00
a.m.
Each
day
they
go
over
lunch
and
then
they
occur
upon
adjournment
every
every
weekday
during
session.
Those
meetings
on
the
journeymen
can
run
as
late
as
as
10
pm,
and
so
mike
told
a
story
about
his
longest
day.
C
A
C
C
A
Of
our
building,
the
first
thing
mike
would
have
encountered
is
a
set
of
ramps
very
unattractive
ramps.
I
might
add
that
would
take
him
into
the
main
floor
of
the
building.
He
also
as
he
entered
as
he
came
into
the
building
and
at
different
points
throughout
the
day
had
to
navigate
different
handicapped
lifts
in
the
building.
A
A
A
A
The
building
so
mike
would
have
to
crisscross
from
east
to
west
and
back
again
to
get
on
different
elevators,
because
we
only
had
one
lift
once
mike
got
through
all
those
places.
He
would
encounter
a
small
room
like
this
members
would
sit
around
the
table
for
their
hearing,
and
the
public
would
sit
behind
oftentimes.
What
mike
would
encounter
is
people
already
in
the
room,
so
he
had
to.
He
had
to
leave
even
earlier
to
get
a
spot
in
the
room.
C
A
Just
to
see
what
it
was
like
to
lobby
in
the
restored
building-
and
it
was
great
to
talk
to
him-
he
he
said
just
how
much
easier
it
is
in
for
him
to
get
around.
He
said
it's
not
complicated,
he
can
get
anywhere,
he
needs
to
quickly
and
easily,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
a
couple
of
after
photos
that
same
picture.
I
showed
you
with
the
ugly
ramp
now
has
what's
called
a
universal
design
ramp.
A
That
david
and
paul
are
going
to
talk
about
more
in
a
minute,
and
that
is
just
a
nice
gentle
sloping
walkway.
It
does
not
need
rails
on
it.
What
I
find
this
is
the
view
directly
out
my
office
window.
What
I
find
is
no
one's
taking
the
stairs
anymore
they're
coming
from
a
parking
lot
and
everyone
is
walking
this
path,
which
is
just
a
really
great
way
to
to
not
make
anybody
feel
different
in
the
process.
A
A
The
other
thing
mike
would
encounter
when
he
gets
at
the
top
of
that
is
now
that
path
leads
up
to
the
first
floor
of
our
buildings.
We
also
have
pathways
in
at
the
garden
level
of
our
building,
but
this
leads
right
to
the
first
floor.
Rotunda.
We.
C
A
D
A
A
There
was
so
much
demand
for
space
that,
in
these
beautiful
public
corridors
that
have
been
restored,
other
needs
would
encroach
on
them,
whether
it
be
elevators
or
conference
rooms
and
pretty
soon
what
you
found
was
just
a
maze
of
little
hallways
steps
were
added
over
time.
There'd
be
steps
and
ramps,
and
just
a
lot
of
unnecessary.
A
Impediments
in
the
way
of
folks
trying
to
get
to
the
chamber
this
is
our
house
lobby.
It
now
has
you
can
see
the
accessible
path
to
our
elevator
corridor.
There
are
no
obstructions
in
the
way,
and
one
of
the
things
that
kevin's
going
to
talk
about
is
how
you
keep
a
building
accessible
years
and
years
after
a
restoration
and
he'll.
B
A
About
how
texas
has
done
that,
but
one
of
the
things
I
noticed
when
our
session
started
is
this
is
the
path
to
our
elevators.
It
is
the
accessible
path
and
pretty
soon
folks
would
start
putting
a
chair
here
and
there,
and
I
think
for
any
of
you,
whose
staff
or
our
building
managers
and
capitals
it's
imperative
to
kind
of
sweep
with
your
eyes
the
building
to
see
where
possible
impediments
may
exist
and
remove
those.
A
C
A
An
elevator
on
both
the
east
and
west
side
that
has
a
rear
door
and
that
elevator
allows
you
to
get
in
at
this
top
level.
Go
all
the
way
to
every
floor
down
to
the
garden
level
or
just
down
to
the
lower
third,
and
that
is
really
elegant
way
to
treat
everybody
equally
in
this
building
and
then
finally,
mike
when
he
goes
into
a
meeting.
C
A
A
A
Our
next
speakers
are
from
an
organization
called
mocha,
and
I
had
the
privilege
of
working
with
both
david
hart
and
paul
brown
on
the
wyoming
restoration.
They
served
as
the
program
managers
of
the
project
and
many
of
the
incredible
solutions
that
you
see
in
my
presentation
were
brain
tiles
of
both
david
and
paul,
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
them
now
to
speak
to
you
about
not
only
the
wyoming
capital
restoration
but
several
other
restorations.
A
B
Thank
you
wendy.
We
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
and,
as
wendy
mentioned,
we're
program,
managers
and
owners
representatives,
and
so
we
typically
have
been
involved
in
setting
up
organizing
and
then
managing
the
selection
process
for
architects
and
contractors
and
then
kind
of
working
through
the
the
process
you
can
see
here.
This
is
paul
brown's
experience
and
you
saw
mine
just
a
minute
ago.
B
We
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
ada
has
changed
state
capital,
restorations
and
the
we
wanted
to
do
that.
We'd
like
to
do
that
over
a
discussion
about
timing
and
we're
going
to
use
state
capitals
that
we've
been
involved
in
to
try
and
express
that.
B
But
first
we
thought
it
would
be
really
important
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
symbols
and
the
importance
of
those
symbols
and
how
those
impact
us
a
little
bit,
and
I
think
the
the
the
thing
that's
important
about
these
buildings
is
that
they're,
a
modern
building
with
modern
functions
but
they're
patterned
after
ancient
temples
and
the
elements
come
typically
from
classical
architecture.
B
B
There
is
a
hierarchy,
that's
very,
very
important
to
keep
in
mind
and
important
to
maintain
as
you
go
through,
and
the
planning
is
based
upon
these
hierarchial
principles
that
were
originally
involved
in
the
the
projects.
Democracy.
There
is
expression
of
our
democrat
democratic
values,
checks
balances,
the
open
debate.
B
You
heard
wendy
mentioned
that
it's
the
people's
house
and
it's
a
symbolic
representation
of
our
constitution
and
the
values
as
americans
that
we
hold
dear
and
then
open
spaces,
symbolize
the
openness
to
the
public,
commonly
referred
to
as
wendy
mentioned,
the
people's
house,
I'd
like
them
to
turn
some
time
over
to
paul
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
these
design
principles
that
I
think
are
very
important
as
we
begin
the
discussion
about
how
you
modify
or
impact
state
capital
to
make
them
accessible
to
everyone.
Paul.
D
Thanks
dave,
these
general
components
of
the
building
type
may
not
apply
to
all
of
state
capitals
throughout
the
country,
but
but
many
of
them
do
have
some
of
these
or
all
of
these
components.
The
first
is
a
podium
which
is
a
a
platform
upon
which
the
building
rests.
It
sort
of
levels
the
ground
and
sets
the
building
up,
which
is
a
challenge,
sets
the
building
up
as
an
important
part
of
the
environment
in
which
it
sits.
In
other
words,
it's
up
for
prominence.
D
The
second
is
there's
a
procession
along
usually
a
long
imposing
stair
front
to
the
main
entrance
of
the
building
where
the
grand
space
is
first
encountered
and
there's
a
hierarchy
to
those
spaces.
Spaces
were
elevated
to
express
their
importance
one
space
over
another
and
many
of
these
buildings
contain
or
are
organized
around
what
architects
call
a
piano,
noble.
It's
italian
meaning,
the
noble
level,
usually
the
first
level
above
the
ground,
and
that
is
the
level
where
the
rotunda
usually
occurs,
or
the
most
dramatic
rotunda
space
occurs.
D
These
are
ceremonial
driven
spaces,
they're,
always
up
on
a
prominent
site.
Capitol
buildings
are,
and
there's
usually
an
axial
organization
of
the
building
spaces,
usually
on
cardinal
accesses
north,
south,
east
and
west.
The
reason
that
we
mention
this
is
because,
most
of
these
commonalities
or
most
of
these
elements
of
these
important
public
buildings,
the
people's
house
present
challenges
for
access.
D
Obviously,
during
the
time
that
these
buildings
were
originally
designed,
access
was
not
exactly
considered
the
way
we
consider
it
today,
and
so
what
we
want
to
spend
some
time
talking
about
is
how
these
ideas
have
evolved
over
time
from
complying
with
the
americans
with
disabilities
act
30
years
ago
to
actually
moving
onward
to
what
what
has
commonly
been
called
universal
design.
So
we'll
talk
about
that
as
we
move
forward.
B
If
we
were
to
go
in
and
just
scrape
out
the
buildings
and
put
in
new
everything
and
and
disregard
these
principles
that
the
buildings
would
be
less
than
what
they
were
originally
and
some
of
the
original
designers,
such
as
cass,
gilbert
and
and
many
other
famous
architects,
a
lot
of
those
principles
would
would
be
lost
as
well
as
would
a
lot
of
the
the
benefit
or
the
importance
ceremonial
aspects
of
the
capital.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
try
to
do
is
study
the
original,
architect's,
drawings
and
designs
very
carefully.
B
B
Many
times.
We
find
also
that
these
buildings
are
smaller
than
are
needed
or
the
the
space
is
smaller
than
is
really
required,
and
so
an
addition
or
an
extension
of
the
capital
is
important
and
we
find
that
utilizing.
Those
extensions
to
try
to
solve
the
problems
of
associated
with
circulation
and
accessibility
is
beneficial
and
then
the
whole
idea
of
moving
beyond
the
law.
30
years
ago
the
law
was
30
40
years
ago.
B
The
law
was
enacted
and
since
that
time,
at
the
beginning,
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
just
trying
to
accommodate
the
law
and
over
time
we
have
come
to
understand
that
we
really
should
be
looking
more
at
universal
access,
so
that
everybody
has
the
same
access
for
the
the
people's
house
and
we'll
try
to
demonstrate
that
over
the
the
next
little
bit.
So
the
first
building
is
the
utah
state
capital,
and
this
was
restored.
B
The
restoration
actually
started.
The
planning
and
study
actually
started
1999
and
it
actually
went
into
construction
in
2004
and
completed
in
in
2008,
and
this
was
a
this
is
an
example
of
where
we
were
just
basically
trying
to
comply
and
bring
back
a
lot
of
the
principles
that
richard
cletting
had
originally
put
into
the
the
building.
B
B
We
actually
had
the
disability
law
center,
come
out
and
review
with
us
and
give
us
some
advice
on
how
those
paths
could
become
accessible
to
people
so
that
they
were
not
just
for
able-bodied,
but
they
were
for
for
everyone,
and
the
last
thing
that
I
think
is
important
to
talk
about
with
regards
to
the
utah
state
capital,
because
we
were
kind
of
venturing
into
some
unknown
territory.
B
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
to
the
the
different
resource
centers
for
ada
and
getting
advice
and
asking
them
questions,
and
they
were
tremendously
helpful.
One
of
the
things
that
they
helped
us
with
was
understanding
how
to
try
to
provide
for
these
raised
dioceses
or
in
this
case
the
supreme
court
room,
which
had
a
higher
level
for
the
justices.
Now
we
had
a
justice
at
that
time
who
was
in
a
wheelchair,
and
we
needed
to
provide
a
way
for
that
justice
to
utilize.
B
The
supreme
court
dies,
the
the
solution
that
we
came
up
with
again
remember
we
were
looking
for
a
way
to
meet
the
requirements
was
that
the
stairs
could
be
dis,
disconnected
or
are
taken
away.
They
were
flexible
and
a
lift
could
be
brought
in
and
then
he
could
go
up
and
down
and
because
they
only
used
this
as
a
ceremonial
chamber
periodically.
B
That
was
an
acceptable
solution
for
ada
use,
and
so
that
was
kind
of
the
beginning
point
for
paul,
and
I
in
in
studying
and
trying
to
understand
how
to
implement
some
of
these
principles
of
ada
into
buildings.
With
that
I'll
turn
some
time
over
to
paul
to
talk
about.
D
The
main
floor
is
up
a
steep
flight
of
stairs
that
face
south
and
then
beneath
those
stairs
is
a
port
cochair
which
was
initially
a
drive-through,
and
then
this
sketch
shows
a
door
into
the
lower
level
or
what
they
called
the
garden
level,
which
became
a
an
accessible
path
to
the
visitor
center.
So
all
the
visitors
functions
happened
in
this
garden
level,
and
so
we
started
to
move
toward
using
walkways
instead
of
ramps.
And
let
me
explain
the
difference
between
those
two.
D
So
a
ramp
in
in
the
code
means
that
the
slope
cannot
exceed
one
foot
in
12
and
has
to
be
accompanied
by
handrails
and
have
a
landing.
That's
the
same
length
as
the
width
of
the
walk
or
they're
about
every
or
every
30
inches
of
grade
change,
and
so
that
becomes
sort
of
a
very
important
element
on
the
landscape,
because
you
have
these
rails
and
the
the
ramp
goes
flat.
Then
it
goes
up
and
it's
a
little
bit
difficult,
architecturally.
D
It
also
sort
of
designates
that
area
as
a
wheelchair
ramp
to
use
the
old
language
that
we
used
to
use
when
the
law
first
came
out
and
then,
as
we
started
to
think
about
this
a
little
bit
more
it
we
started
to
think
about
what
david's
mentioned,
and
that
is
that
it
would
be
really
great
if
these
things
didn't
feel
like
a
ramp.
They
just
felt
like
a
walk
and
so
a
walk.
D
On
the
other
hand,
can
slope
one
foot
in
20
feet
and
does
not
need
to
have
a
railing
or
a
landing,
so
it
can
just
provide
a
universal
smooth
slope
slopes
when
we
get
to
wyoming.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
and
then
those
hearing,
aids
below
grade
were
obviously
a
great
public
access
experience
and,
and
they
were
obviously
accessible
too
and
then
elevator
use
in
the
building
was
expanded,
also
and
then
on
to
minnesota
dave.
Do
you
want
me
to
chat
a
little
bit
about
this?
One.
D
D
So
access
to
the
chambers
was
a
little
bit
difficult
because
they
are
so
architecturally
significant
in
their
prominence
and
in
the
way
they
step
up.
They
step
up
for
architectural
importance,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
to
figure
out
is
how
to
get
people
in
to
these
spaces
where
they
were
elevated,
and
this
example
is
one
that
is
simply
compliance
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
this.
D
If
you
can
see
the
little
arrow
that
runs
around
the
left-hand
side
of
those
colored
areas
and
then
goes
up
a
ramp
with
an
arrow
to
it.
This
is
the
public
seating
area
in
the
supreme
court
chamber
and
we
were
able
to
utilize
some
spaces
that
were
not
prominent
in
the
room
but
allowed
access
up
to
that
level
sort
of
through
a
back
corridor.
The
back
corridor
was
actually
very
beautiful.
D
D
B
Anyhow,
we
we
did
work
to
provide,
as
wendy
was
saying,
t-coils
and
and
hearing
assistance,
and
obviously
braille
was
included
in
that.
The
other
thing
that
was
very
important
in
in
minnesota
was
that
they
were.
B
They
struggled
to
meet
several
different
levels
that
when
you
came
into
the
building
it
immediately
stepped
down,
then
it
stepped
back
up,
and
then
you
went
up
a
flight
of
stairs
and
then
it
had
again
a
couple
of
different
level
changes,
especially
to
the
different
chambers,
but
one
of
the
big
problems
was
trying
to
address
how
to
move
people
in
and
out
of
the
building
at
the
at
the
very
bottom
level,
the
the
basement
level
or
the
garden.
B
I
guess
in
this
case,
you'd
call
it
the
garden
level,
and
so
what
we
have
to
do
is
identify
a
place
where
we
could
put
an
elevator
that
would
allow
people
to
both
move
in
use
the
elevator
to
go
up
and
down,
and
so
it
became
more
of
a
an
ability
to
get
people
to
different
locations
or
allow
people
to
move
to
different
locations
in
a
more
natural
flow,
rather
than
to
force
them
in
a
circuitous
ramp
and
up
and
down
other
areas
which
was
there.
B
When
we
started
when
we
started
the
restoration
they
had
several
temporary
or
wooden
ramps,
which
had
become
permanent
over
time
to
move
people
in
and
around
these
different
level
changes,
and
we
found
a
location,
and
you
can
see
these
elevators
in
the
that
have
been
in
the
upper
two
sly
photos
where
we
were
able
to
find
a
location
that
that
went
all
the
way
through
the
building
that
allowed
people
to
come
in
use
that
elevator
to
hit
just
about
every
level
possible.
B
B
Every
space
was
accessible,
some
of
the
spaces
had
very
high
thresholds,
and
the
doors
were
historic
that
sat
above
those
thresholds,
but
you
had
to
step
up
and
over
the
threshold
which
was
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
12
to
18
inches
high,
and
that
was
done
obviously
to
address
water
issues.
So
we
had
to
find
a
way
to
lower
the
threshold.
B
As
you
can
see,
the
picture
with
the
door
open
lower
the
threshold
allow
people
to
walk
out
onto
this
balcony
but
at
the
same
time
address
the
water
issues
so
that
didn't
come
back
into
the
building
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
technical
work
that
has
to
go
into
sometimes
making
these
spaces
acceptable.
B
B
We
then
try
to
find
locations
or
places
where
we
can
install
the
appropriate
toilet
facility
or
elements
that
need
to
go
into
the
space
to
allow
for
the
person
in
a
wheelchair
or
person.
In
some
other
situation
able
to
address
the
area,
we
try
to
very
carefully
use
the
same
material
and
the
same
finishes
so
that
there
is
no
real
change
in
the
overall
appearance
within
the
area
we
talked
earlier
about
trying
to
use
extension
buildings
to
help
solve
some
of
the
the
the
circulation
issues
between
locations.
D
Yeah
so
I'll
be
brief
here,
the
grading
on
the
exterior
was
a
bit
difficult
for
the
minnesota
capitol
and
we
were
able
to
remake
the
the
avenue
that
was
in
front
of
the
capital
for
accessibility
and
also
gain
accessibility
through
the
port
cochair
under
the
south
steps.
This
only
got
you
to
the
lower
level
next
slide,
maybe
dave
in
wyoming.
D
D
So
we
were
able
to,
on
this
north
side,
be
able
to
gather
enough
elevation
to
be
able
to
use
a
walkway,
not
a
ramp,
but
a
walkway
to
get
to
that
main
level.
The
level
one
the
big
rotunda
space,
and
so
that
was
very
a
very
important
step,
and
I
won't
touch
on
these
other
things
because
wendy's
already
talked
about
those,
but
I
think
maybe
we
just
advanced
to
what
we're
now
working
toward
for
universal
design.
This
is
a
couple
of
sketches
from
work
that
we
started
to
do
on.
D
B
Okay,
so
in
california,
one
of
the
things
that
they
have
really
embraced
is
this
idea
about
universal
design
where
all
visitors
follow
the
same
path,
and
so
you
can
see
here
in
this
in
this
little
elevation
study
is
we
are
using
a
universal
ramp
or
a
universal
walk
to
go
subterranean
and
to
allow
for
a
west
entry
below
the
main
entry
of
the
the
capital.
B
This
is
also
allows
us
to
gently
slope
the
sides
and
to
bring
people
in,
but
everybody
gets
the
same
experience
and
then
once
in
the
building,
the
ability
for
them
to
move
up
and
into
the
capital,
while
we're
still
using
ramps
because
of
the
limited
amount
of
space
they
are
in
the
same
area
with
those
in
that
are
walking
and
using
the
stairs
in
the
with
regards
to
the
east
side
of
the
building.
B
D
The
the
big
idea
is
that
all
the
public
meeting
spaces
are
on
a
level
that
is
actually
adjusted
on
the
site
to
be
a
walk-in,
so
there's
no
great
change
to
access
all
of
the
public
meeting
rooms,
which
is
the
biggest
part
of
this
work,
is,
is
gaining
access
to
those,
and
so
the
idea
is
to
first
locate
public
meeting
rooms
where
they
are
accessible
and
then
provide
a
universal
access
system
to
have
all
the
public
who
come
to
those
meetings
and
to
engage
their.
B
Right
welcome
right
and
then
the
last
thing
we
wanted
to
talk
about
and
then
we'll
turn
the
time
over
to
kevin
is
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
make
sure
the
floors
line
up
presently
in
the
building
the
floors
do
not
line
up,
and
so
there
is
little
accessibility
for
those
who
are
mobility,
challenged
to
move
from
the
historic
building
into
the
annex
building,
and
so
with
that
we'll
turn
the
time
over
to
our
next
speaker,
kevin.
A
Well,
go
ahead,
go
right
ahead!
Kevin!
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
you
as
the
architect
of
the
texas,
capitol
and
and
kevin's
got
great
experience
from
a
building.
That's
been
restored
several
years
ago
and
and
modifications
along
the
way.
Take
it
away
kevin.
C
Great
good
day,
everybody
it's
great
to
be
here
with
you
to
share
some
of
our
experiences
here
in
texas,
I'm
architect
at
the
capitol
responsible
for
overseeing
preservation,
capital
improvements
and
ada
compliance
at
our
capital
and
a
few
key
associated
buildings
like
to
talk
about
our
restoration
25
years
ago,
addressing
ada
issues,
post
restoration
as
part
of
facilities,
management
and
share.
With
your
recent
accessibility
improvement.
We've
completed.
C
D
C
There
was
a
fire
in
1983
that
often
happens
to
historic
buildings,
to
kind
of
trigger,
trigger
some
special
attention
and
that
started
the
path
toward
a
major
restoration
which
was
completed
in
1995
and
with
that
was
the
creation
of
the
state
preservation
board,
to
focus
specifically
on
the
very
unique
needs
of
a
historic
restoration
of
a
capital.
And
then
it's
ongoing
maintenance
and
preservation.
C
It
was
contiguous
with
the
capital
you
can
see
this
cross
section.
That
shows
how
there
were
tunnels
dug
under
the
historic
capital
which
allowed
the
historic,
elevators
and
the
capital
to
drop
down
into
the
extension
level.
Just
some
ada
notes
about
the
restoration
and
extension
both
of
these
were
registered
under
a
1979
law
in
texas
called
the
elimination
of
architectural
barriers
act,
because
the
early
design
had
started
right
as
the
ada
right
before
the
ada
came
into
effect.
But
the
the
decision
was
made
to
design
to
the
ada.
C
C
We
were
fortunate
that
our
recess
historic
doors
swung
in
into
the
rooms,
and
so
we
didn't
have
an
issue
with
those
lifts
were
provided
at
every
primary
entrance
to
the
chambers
and
galleries.
As
has
been
discussed
as
issues
in
other
capitals,
accessible
seating
was
provided
there,
our
building
had
elevators
in
1888,
which
helped
a
lot.
C
We
didn't
have
any
problems
finding
vertical
space
to
add
those
and
the
tunnels
I
mentioned
that
were
dug,
underneath
to
tie
those
historic
elevator
locations
into
the
new
capital
made
the
building
fully
accessible
as
as
one
facility,
the
extension
doubled
our
space
and
helped
us
accommodate
the
space
limitations
that
resulted
from
opening
back
up
to
historic
spaces
and
the
extension
was
all
new
construction,
so
that
was
easily
made
accessible.
C
C
The
building
is
built
on
the
edge
of
plateau,
overlooking
the
river
which
you
can
see
in
that
left
photo,
and
it's
had
a
much
much
greater
grade
changes.
The
entrance
at
the
north
is
actually
a
projecting
portico,
so
we're
able
to
enter
it
from
the
side.
C
The
smaller
deck
was
easier
to
raise
up
to
be
flush
with
the
interior
floors
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
did
a
pretty
good
job.
You
know
way
back
then,
with
gentle
slopes
not
requiring
handrails
for
a
large
part
of
the
distance.
The
rails
were
only
required
at
the
bridge
which
passes
over
a
lower
side
entrance,
and
there
are
stairs
there
to
the
left
as
well,
which
makes
it
a
universal
feature
accessible
to
everyone
kind
of
going
beyond
the
buildings.
Here's
some
aerial
photos
and
it's
founding
an
initial
survey
in
1839.
C
The
location
was
allotted
for
the
capital
at
the
center
of
austin
on
capitol
square,
which
is
surrounded
by
state
land
and
the
grounds
are
really
an
integral
historic
part
of
the
capital's
presence.
It
sets
it
all
from
downtown
with
graceful,
park-like
surroundings
and
really
gives
the
building
some
presence.
A
C
Shortly
after
the
building
restoration,
as
you
can
see
in
this
plan,
the
grounds
have
a
symmetrical
design,
but
the
the
thinner
lines
there
are.
You
see
our
sidewalks
and
those
were
actually
designed
along
foot
paths
that
had
existed
previously.
C
C
So
that's
a
little
bit
about
our
restoration,
but
after
the
restoration
time
marches
on
and
the
work
did
not
end,
maintaining
a
building
is
as
important
as
as
doing
a
proper
restoration.
I've
mentioned
the
capital
have
previously
grown
overcrowded
kind
of
in
a
piecemeal
fashion
and
one
of
the
most
important
functions
of
the
state
preservation
board
and
the
benefits
of
the
restoration
was
the
creation
of
the
board
to
help
prevent
this
from
happening
again
by
managing
change
properly.
One
of
the
most
important
aspects.
C
Our
board
consists
of
the
governor,
lieutenant
governor
speaker
of
the
house,
a
representative
from
the
house
and
senate
and
a
public
mentor,
a
member
appointed
by
the
governor,
because
the
state
preservation
board
includes
leadership
from
all
of
our
occupants,
led
by
the
governor
with
the
lieutenant
governor
and
house
speaker
as
co-vice
chairs.
C
Capital
decisions
about
improvements
and
changes
are
made
with
the
unified
voice
and
project
management
is
conducted
consistently
throughout
the
building,
but
changes
will
never
be
haphazard,
so
that
would
be
takeaway
number
one
to
make
sure
you
involve
all
your
leadership
in
a
unified
voice
to
manage
change.
C
Required
by
law
to
retain
all
of
our
documentation
related
to
restoration
and
subsequent
work.
This
is
very
helpful,
so
that
would
be
a
takeaway
too,
that
I
would
suggest
that
you
hold
on
to
all
your
building
records
because
we're
digging
in
into
them
often,
even
though
they're
30
years
old
and
our
we
have
our
staff,
which
is
dedicated
solely
to
the
capital
and
a
few
key
supporting
buildings
facilities
management
program
with
this
kind
of
focus,
is
able
to
handle
the
unique
requirements
of
the
capital
environment.
C
C
A
few
ada
notes
about
work
since
the
restoration,
while
changes
under
fifty
thousand
dollars
are
not
required
for
review
by
our
local
state
agency.
We
have
in-house
expertise
to
make
sure
that
not
even
the
smallest
changes
are
made
that
impact
ada
compliance.
Another
takeaway,
I
would
give
you
is
to
encourage.
C
Someone
on
staff,
if
you
don't
have
dedicated
facilities
management
just
to
have
someone
who's
in
the
building
on
a
regular
basis,
who's
familiar
with
the
ada.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
an
architect,
and
it's
really
not
that
scary.
If
you
can
descend
someone
who's,
you
know
in
charge
of
walking
through
the
spaces
and
noticing
when
furniture
is
placed
in
the
wrong
way.
C
That's
very
important
and
minor
maintenance
items
like
making
sure
doors
have
five
pounds
of
pull
pressure
and
when
bathroom
accessories
are
replaced.
If
they're
mounted
at
the
right
height,
the
small
things
like
that
make
a
big
difference
to
your
visitors.
C
So
now,
25
years
after
our
restoration,
we've
undertaken
a
few
larger
renovation
projects
and
one
key
thing
to
know
is
anytime,
there's
an
alteration
made
to
an
area
primary
activity
in
your
building
that
triggers
inspections
and
requires
upgrades
of
any
non-ada
compliant
elements
and
restrooms
drinking
fountains,
accessible
routes
and
serving
the
space
and
you're
required
to
allocate
up
to
20
of
your
construction
budget
to
address
those
things.
So
I'd
encourage
you
to
think
about
that
in
the
early
planning
phases
of
any
of
your
projects.
C
But
the
new
standards
out
in
2010
require
have
a
specific
height
for
the
sanding
drink,
standing
height
drinking
fountain,
to
prevent
people
from
stooping,
and
so
we're
required
to
convert
that
into
a
high
low
and,
being
you
know,
bronze,
fountain
and
being
integrated
with
plumbing
into
a
historic
building.
That
was
no
small
feat,
so
it's
one
of
the
little
details
that
can
turn
into
a
larger
part
of
the
projects
that
you
need
to
consider
in
advance.
C
C
To
some
other,
in
addition
to
ada,
changing
and
needing
to
keep
on
top
of
that,
you
can
have
conditions
change
as
well.
After
our
restoration
in
1999,
we
had
a
visitor's
parking
garage
that
was
completed
to
block
east
capitol
square
and
then
in
2001
the
grounds
were
restricted
to
vehicular
traffic,
which
removed
our
public
accessible
parking.
That
was
right
next
to
the
building
making
this
our
primary
accessible
facility,
which
is
on
an
accessible
route
to
the
building.
C
A
C
A
good
time
to
talk
about
outreach,
so
austin
has
an
active
disability
rights
community
and
we
have
a
preservation
board,
has
a
long
history
of
proactive
interaction
with
these
advocacy
groups.
For
example,
we
brought
some
in
when
we
were
designing
the
texas
state
history
museum
to
have
early
reviews
to
make
sure
our
exhibits
were
accessible
as
possible,
so
in
in
2014
we
approached
a
group
called
the
coalition
of
texans
with
disabilities
asking
for
input
to
guide
our
priorities
as
we
planned
our
capital
improvements
in
the
future
and.
B
C
And
so
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
wayfinding
project,
which
is
one
of
the
improvements
that
we
made
to
address
their
concerns.
I'm
pointing
out
here.
We
also
have
our
capital
visitor
center,
which
is
a
small
building
at
the
corner
of
historic
building
at
the
corner
of
our
grounds,
and
we
have
our
surrounding
buildings
to
serve
around
capitol
square
that
that
parking
garage
serves.
C
So
when
we're
looking
at
way,
finding
improving
wayfinding
was
one
of
the
main
issues
that
when
you
arrive
at
the
parking
garage,
you
know
that
accessible
route
can
be
kind
of
hard
to
find.
And
so
we
started
out
by
checking
every
single
one
of
our
sidewalks
running
slope,
side,
slope,
which
is
a
good
thing
to
do
in
general,
because
over
time
your
trees
can
heave
your
sidewalks
and
and
bring
formally
compliant
sidewalks
out
of
compliance.
C
And
then
we
did
an
extensive
examination
of
who's
arriving
where
they
need
to
go
where
the
roots
are,
where
the
barriers
are
and
then
we
kind
of
broke
it
down
into
where
people
are
coming
from
our
main
site.
Entrances
here
are
our
primary
building
entrances
our
capital
and
our
visitor
center
and
the
primary
route
between
the
visitors
parking,
and
not
only
that,
but
to
all
the
pedestrian
entrances
around
identifying
those
accessible
routes.
C
B
C
Primary
tool
that
we
had
in
our
wayfinding
science
program
was
this
wayfinding
map,
which,
when
it's
full
size
in
front
of
you,
you
can
see
all
the
detail.
We
have
our
primary
accessible
routes
to
our
primary
buildings
and
how
to
get
to
the
accessible
entrance
of
every
building
around
capitol
square,
and
these
were
presented
a
number
of
ways.
C
One
is
a
welcome
kiosk
at
our
parking
parking
garage,
which
also
includes
some
larger
way-finding
arrows
to
get
you
to
our
primary
buildings
and
some
interpretation
to
make
it
a
nice
universal
feature
that
everyone
can
enjoy.
C
That
map
is
also
at
each
of
our
primary
entrances
to
the
grounds,
and
you
can
see
a
detail
here
of
how
we
addressed
it.
We
have
the
full
the
full
map,
so
you
can
see
you
know
where
your
route
is
from
point
a
to
point
b.
We
have
our
primary
arrows
to
which
direction
to
head
and
if
that's,
not
an
accessible
route,
you
can
see
that
second
entrance,
the
capital
visitor
center,
shows
you
that
the
accessible
route
is
actually
behind
you
and
again.
C
A
C
Get
past
that
map
reader
and
you
can't
memorize
the
map,
it's
still
pretty
confusing,
and
so
we
have
wayfinding
markers
that
were
installed
at
every
point
of
decision.
You
remember
the
all.
The
the
paths
across
the
grounds
are
beautiful,
but
trying
to
decide
which
one's
accessible
and
which
one's
not
can
can
get
pretty
pretty
confusing,
and
you
can
see
we
have
directions
to
and
from
every
major
entrance
and
all
of
our
primary
buildings
from
wherever
you
are.
C
They
can
be
viewed
as
you
approach
them
and
also
from
the
side
for
people
with
visual
impairments
and
here's
an
example
of
another
one
from
both
sides
of
a
kind
of
fork
in
the
road,
and
you
can
see
the
right
image
in
particular.
If
you
were
arriving
in
a
wheelchair,
you
might
intuitively
think
well,
the
right
must
be
the
accessible
route,
but
the
left
is
accessible
and
that's
where
you
need
the
head
to
get
to
our
accessible
entrance
and
at
each
point
you
you
are
guided
in
the
right
direction.
B
C
Designed
to
be
because
they're
on
historic
grounds-
and
we
want
them
to
not
stick
out
like
sore
thumbs,
they're
useful
at
the
point
where
you
need
them
at
the
point
at
the
juncture
where
you're
needing
to
decide
where
to
go
but
they're
also,
we
picked
a
tone,
a
color
that
would
kind
of
blend
in
with
the
building
and
into
the
shadows.
So
they
don't
stick
out
and
in
addition
to
the
one
you
see
here,
which
tells
you
to
keep
going
forward.
C
There's
actually
five
more
in
this
in
this
photo
that
kind
of
blend
into
the
landscape
and
here's
another
example.
There
is
actually
six
way
finding
markers
in
here
and
the
one
you
see
in
front
of
you
tells
you
to
keep
going
forward,
don't
turn
right
and
we
also
had
some
some
issues
inside
the
building,
especially
with
crowd
control
and
so
at
our
elevators
and
our
hearing
rooms
we
put
signage,
that's
that's
prominent,
but
but
not
obtrusive.
C
That
reminds
people
to
provide
priority
access
for
people,
people
with
disabilities,
so
that
everyone
can
have
full
access
to
the
building,
and
one
thing
I
forgot
to
mention
is
on
our
map
readers.
We
also
have
a
phone
number
to
call
people,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
people
are
still
better
than
sign
signs.
C
A
C
A
couple
of
projects
in
the
pipeline
to
additionally
improve
beyond
the
ada
one
is
we're
working
on
an
accessible
drop-off
location
which
is
closer
to
our
north
entrance
with
a
shelter
and
we're
converting
two
of
our
lesser-used
restrooms
into
family
use,
restrooms
for
families
with
small
children
and
visitors
who
are
accompanied
by
assistance.
A
Great
thanks
so
much
kevin
and
I
actually
think
your
presentation
leads
into
a
question
that
mary
mobile
had
from
maryland
and
we're
running
a
little
over
time.
But
for
anyone,
who'd
like
to
stay
on
I'll
pose
this
question
and
then
we
will,
if
there's
any
other
questions,
feel
free
to
type
them
in
the
chat
box
and
ncsl
staff
will
respond
as
well
as
our
presenters
to
you
personally.
A
But
the
question
mary
poses
is
to
what
extent,
if
any,
have
you
extended
accessibility,
goals
and
principles
to
your
state,
capital,
visitor
and
tour
programs
and
kevin?
I
think
wayfinding
is,
is
part
of
that
story,
so
for
our
panelists
I
I'd
be
curious.
About
experiences.
You've
had
wyoming
has
not
actually
embarked
on
our
interpretive
plans
and
formalizing
our
tour
programs.
Yet
so
it's
something
we
are
definitely
going
to
take
to
heart,
and
I
would
love
to
learn
more
too.
C
Well,
I
wish
our
our
curator,
the
capital,
is
here
who's
in
charge
of
our
visitor
services,
but
I
I
know
we're
always
looking
at
you
know
multiple
languages,
including
sign
language,
and
you
you
can
schedule
a
tour
that
addresses
any
needs
we
basically
have
on.
Our
website
is
a
is
a
key
tool.
Is
our
website
for
pre-planning
and
there's
a
phone
number
there
and
you
know
if
you
have
any
needs
ahead
of
time.
B
One
of
the
things
wendy-
this
is
david
hart,
one
of
the
things
that
paul
and
I
do
is
we
always
try
to
trace
out
the
pathway
that
the
visitors
or
visitors
will
will
take,
and
we
we
work
diligently
to
try
to
make
sure.
As
we've
we've
shown
you,
either
through
universal
design
or
through
other
means
as
to
how
to
get
all
the
people
to
a
location
where
they
can
start
a
tour
in
utah.
B
When
we
completed
the
restoration
and
they
had
the
grand
opening,
they
had
an
system
that
people
could
download
on
their
phone
and
then,
as
they
moved
through
the
building,
they
would
be
able
to
sync
up
with
where
they
were
in
the
building,
and
it
would
then
tell
them
about
the
item
in
front
of
them
or
the
thing
they
were
looking
at.
I
believe
there
was
a
part
of
that
where
you
could
push
a
button
and
it
would
kind
of
give
you
a
pre-recorded
message.
B
I
know
in
minnesota.
We
had
worked
very
closely
with
the
the
blind,
the
department
of
the
blind
and
and
some
of
the
other
people
about
the
different
abilities
that
were
needed
to
be
accommodated.
B
They
had
a
a
tour
program
that
was
trying
very
hard
to
try
to
incorporate
some
of
these
things
and
I'm
not
sure
how
that
that
worked
out
and
then
in
wyoming
we
we
went
so
far
as
to
do
some
initial
planning
with
the
interpretive
plan,
as
wendy
mentioned.
That
has
not
been
implemented
yet,
but
there
were
several
ideas
that
came
forward
from
having
displays
that
people
would
be
able
to
push
a
button
and
have
it
speak
to
them
about
certain
things.
A
C
A
On
ncsl's
website
in
the
next
week-
and
we
will
go
ahead
and
wrap
this
up,
and
we
thank
you
all
for
joining
today
and
kevin
and
david
and
paul.
I
can't
thank
you
enough,
there's
so
so
much
content
here
and
so
much
more.
We
could
explore,
but
what
a
wonderful
way
to
celebrate
the
30th
anniversary
of
the
ada
in
our
symbols
of
democracy
and
how
we
can
all
think
about
the
principles
of
universal
design
and
how
we
make
our
buildings
allow
folks
to
have
the
same
experience
from
any
perspective.