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SPEAKER: Kendall Cole w/ Proximity Labs & Ref.finance
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B
Hey
everyone:
my
name
is
kendall,
I'm
the
co-founder
of
a
company
called
proximity
labs.
We
do
a
few
things.
We
build
d5
products
and
we're
also
about
to
launch
a
dow.
That's
focused
on
really
just
supporting
the
default
ecosystem
and
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
today
about
the
state
of
defy
on
near
as
it
is
today.
B
We're
also
going
to
then
touch
on
where
it's
going
to
be
going
over
the
next
few
months
and
hopefully
years
so,
let's
just
start
with
a
few
numbers
kind
of
giving
you
guys
an
idea
of
where
of
where
the
defy
is
right.
Now.
All
of
these
are
also
out
of
date
by
the
way,
which
is
a
fun
occurrence.
So
the
the
total
value
locked
on
here
recently
crossed
150
million
just
to
kind
of
define
what
that
means.
B
Total
value
locked
is
essentially
a
measure
of
the
value
of
the
assets
that
are
currently
being
you
know,
used
or
or
stored
in
d5
products
on
a
blockchain
or
in
a
protocol,
so
yeah
recently
150
million,
I
think,
actually
pretty
close
to
200.
As
of
today.
There
have
been
five
major
token
launches
on
year.
What
you
mean
by
that
is
that
each
of
these
projects
has
rapidly
accumulated
several
million
dollars
worth
of
liquidity
and
also
value
that's
been
transacted
for
it.
B
A
few
of
these
you
may
have
heard
of,
and
and
we'll
also
cover
later.
In
this
talk,
we
had
our
first
100
million
dollar
single
protocol
congrats
to
the
the
ref
finance
team
on
that
accomplishment
excited
to
see
that
turn
into
a
billion
and
more
and
there's
five
pools
yep.
B
There
is
five
pools
with
more
than
10
million
in
liquidity,
which
is
really
exciting.
A
lot
of
those
are
actually
near
native
tokens,
there's
more
than
10
million
near
tokens
that
are
currently
locked
in
d5.
This
is
pretty
cool
measure
of
you
know.
There's
now
actually
alter
like
things
for
people
who
are
holding
near
tokens
to
do
other
than
just
stake
them,
we'll
actually
talk
about
how
they
can
do
both
as
well
and
more
than
70
million
has
been
bridged
from
ethereum.
B
So
why
near
for
d5
projects,
so
one
of
the
things
we
actually
don't
talk
enough
about,
but
it's
pretty
interesting,
is
that
near
has
among
the
fastest
finality
of
any
layer,
one
blockchain,
it's
about.
You
know
one
to
two
seconds
which
makes
a
very
big
difference
when
you're
building
financial
applications,
as
you
know
that
can
really
impact.
You
know
what
kind
of
return
you
can
have
near
has
future-proof
scaling
via
sharding.
You
know
this
is
something
that
you
know.
We
believe
like
some
of
the
early.
B
You
know,
members
of
the
near
community,
that
sharding
is
the
right
way
to
scale
over
the
long
term.
You
know
it's
not
just
about
you
know,
making
some
short-term
changes
that
get
like
extra
numbers.
It's
about.
You
know
this
is.
This
is
something
that
we
can.
We
can
expand
up
to
like
as
this
ecosystem
grows
over
many
years.
B
There
is
the
choice
of
synchronous
and
asynchronous
environments,
which
is
not
something
that's
really
touched
on
enough
on
near,
because
we
have
products
like
aurora,
where
you
know
you
can
deploy
evm-based
applications.
Those
applications
can
interoperate
with
each
other
atomically,
which
is
an
important
part
of
how
a
lot
of
the
the
current
d5
products
are
structured.
B
You
can
actually
choose
which
one
you
want
to
use,
depending
on,
like
the
nature
of
your
application,
which
is
really
powerful,
as
we
touched
on
just
briefly,
nier
has
pretty
flexible
support
when
it
comes
to
what
developers
can
choose
to
build
using,
so
they
can
use
any
language
that
compiles
the
webassembly.
They
can
use
languages
that
compile
to
the
evm
like
solidity,
which
is
by
far
the
most
popular
choice
these
days,
and
they
can
also
use
substrate
and
build
app
chains
using
a
product
called
octopus
that
I
believe
spoke
earlier
today,
trustless
bridges.
B
You
know
this
is
a
big
one,
if
you're
really
a
believer
in
decentralization
and
also
if
you
just
want
a
good
user
experience.
This
is
going
to
play
a
big
part
in
like
the
safety
that
you
have.
You
know
you
want
to
believe
that
your
assets
are
not
actually
able
to
be
taken
by
any
one
actor
or
small
number
of
actors,
and
we
have
trustless
bridges
to
near
and
this
one's
a
little
bit
controversial,
but
I'll
make
this
claim.
B
So
now
we're
going
to
touch
a
little
bit
on
some
applications
that
you
can
use
today
that
were
built
on
native
near.
So
this
is
the
web
assembly
based
version
of
near,
and
there
are
a
few
right
now,
there's
about
eight
that
are
either
live
or
planning
to
go,
live
over
the
next
two
or
three
weeks.
I
would
say
so
we're
going
to
cover
a
few
of
these
but
yeah.
B
They
launched
their
first
product
several
months
ago,
and
it
actually
has
some
unique
properties
that
other
popular,
automated
market
makers,
don't.
I
think
one
of
the
most
interesting
is
that
it's
built
to
support
multiple,
what's
called
curve
types.
This
is
essentially
how
you
know
the
relationship
of
assets
to
each
other.
A
really
good
example
of
this
is:
you
can
have
what's
called
a
stable
swap
curve,
which
is
where
you
can
have
similar
types
of
assets
that
will
trade
at
who
are
supposed
to
trade,
basically
at
about
the
same
price.
B
But
then
you
can
also,
you
know,
use
different
types
of
curve,
curves
to
trade,
say
near
to
usdc
or
near
to
ethereum,
and
what's
really
cool
is
that
you
can
actually
do
trades
across
these
pools
using
ref
or
well
we'll
be
able
to
soon,
and
this
is
something
that
doesn't
exist,
or
at
least
it's
not
very
popular
just
yet
amongst
other
products,
and
it's
really
going
to
be
a
differentiator.
I
believe,
as
we
mentioned
before,
they
recently
crossed
100
million
in
total
value,
locked,
really
exciting
accomplishment.
B
If
you're
interested
in
learning
more
from
this
team,
you
can
go
ahead
and
follow
them
on
twitter,
they're,
pretty
active
there
and
we'll
keep
you
updated
much
better
than
I
can
second
product
we're
going
to
cover
skyward.
So
skyward
has
been
a
big
part
of
a
lot
of
these
tokens
that
have
been
going
to
market.
It's
actually
a
pretty
fascinating
product
for
price
discovery.
I
actually
think
one
of
the
best
out
there
and
the
way
we
sort
of
seen,
that
is,
that
products
or
tokens
will
launch
on
this
platform.
B
It's
it's
done
by
our
unique
auction
mechanism
that
basically
splits
an
auction
into
an
auction
every
second,
it's
a
fascinating
mechanic.
That's
a
bit
complex!
They
have
some
great
materials
about
how
to
understand
it,
but
it's
been
very
successful.
So,
across
just
four
white
listed
auctions,
there's
been
more
than
50
million
dollars
worth
of
tokens
raised.
Those
tokens
have
been
a
near
and
east
and
in
die.
It's
been
really
exciting.
B
Skyward
has
its
own
sort
of
mechanism,
its
own
sort
of
treasury.
That's
accumulated
15
million
dollars.
I
think
that's
just
the
start
to
see
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
dows
and
treasuries
that
are
going
to
get
like,
be
this
large
and
even
larger,
and
if
you
want
to
stay
up
to
date
with
what
this
team
is
working
on,
go
ahead
and
give
them
a
follow
metapool.
So
this
is
one
of
my
favorite
products
for
a
specific
region
which
is
that
they
enable
you
to
stake
your
near.
B
Take
your
near
and
stake
it.
You
know
we
could
even
envision
a
world
where
basically
all
of
the
near
estate,
but
what
they
do
is
they
give
you
a
token
back
to
represent
that
stake
near
why
this
is
cool.
Is
that
you
can
then
take
that
representation
of
near
which
is
more
or
less
redeemable
one-to-one,
or
for
both
your
near
and
the
staking
words.
You
accumulate
and
you
can
use
it
in
in
d5.
B
B
You
know
use
your
near
as
collateral
for
a
loan,
but
you
also
want
to
have
it
staked,
because
you
don't
want
to
give
up
this
11
staking
words
and,
most
importantly,
you
want
to
do
your
part
and
secure
the
near
network
and,
as
we
know,
with
proof
of
state
networks,
the
higher
the
stake,
the
more
security
so
with
with
metapool
that
you
no
longer
have
to
choose
between
using
your
near
and
define
securing
the
network
and
well
those
two
things
basically
or
giving
up
your
rewards
they
launched
a
few
weeks
ago
and
when
they
did
launch,
they
very
quickly
accumulated
three
million
three
million
near
that
was
staked,
which
is
pretty
impressive
and
also
another
interesting
part
of
the
product
is
that
they
have
this
concept
of
rapid
unstaking,
which
means
that
you
can.
B
You
can
bypass
the
normal
48-hour
waiting
period
to
one
stake
by
using
this
liquidity
pool
that
they've
set
up
and
they
had
a
decent
bit
of
liquidity.
You
know
well
over
a
million
that
was
in
that
which
is
really
cool
and
they're,
also
the
second
largest
pool
on
ref.
I
believe
it
was
around
30
million
total
value.
B
Lots
the
last
time
I
checked
so
go
ahead
and
give
them
a
follow,
a
very
interesting
team
and
then
the
last
one
we're
going
to
touch
on
nativener
before
talking
about
some
other
other
parts
of
of
of
near
is
burro
suburo
has
not
yet
launched.
This
is
a
team
that
we're
working
very
closely
with
and
we're
actually
building
out
their
smart
contracts
at
proximity,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
written
in
rust,
so
native
to
near
pool
based
lending
product.
B
The
focus
for
boro
is
really
on
borrowing
and
lending
these
interest
bearing
assets.
So
you
know,
unlike
other
major
protocols
like
ave
and
compound,
really
want
to
focus
on
being
able
to
deposit
stake
near
staked
eath
other
types
of
staking
derivatives
and
intersparing
assets
and
borrow
against
them.
B
The
reason
that's
cool
is
that
the
when
you
have
an
intersparing
collateral,
the
value
of
like
the
collateral
using
for
your
loan
will
grow
over
time,
while
usually
the
actual
loan
value
itself
will
you
know,
stay
the
same
or
even
decline
over
time,
and
what
this
means
is.
Your
loan
is
effectively
paying
itself
off.
So
imagine
being
able
to
borrow
against
your
future,
you
know
staking
yield
for
for
near,
and
then
you
know
get
them
like.
Essentially
you
don't
even
need
to
get
a
mortgage.
B
The
beta
will
be
launching
pretty
soon.
If
you
want
first
dibs
on
this,
then
follow
us
at
burrowcash,
we'll
be
posting
updates
there,
and
there
should
be
some
more
information
very,
very
shortly,
okay,
so
that
was
native
near
as
many
of
you
may
have
heard.
You
may
have
spoken
to
this
team,
or
you
may
have
you
know,
learned
more
about
it.
B
There's
another
aspect
of
near
another
sort
of
environment
that
is
aurora,
so
aurora
is
compatible
with
the
basically
the
developer
environment
and
also
a
lot
of
the
tooling
from
ethereum,
which
is
going
to
be
a
big
unlock
for
the
types
of
developers
and
the
types
of
products
that
are
able
to
be
launched
on
near
so
yeah
reasons
that
aurora
is
really
cool.
Familiar
wallets.
B
You
can
use
your
metamask,
you
can
finally
use
metamask
on
here,
metamask
very
popular
wallet,
something
people
want
to
do,
and
it
also
just
like
you
know,
is
very
familiar
to
people
already.
It's
a
much
improved
experience
over
ethereum
the
confirmation
times
are
you
know,
native
near
confirmation
time,
so
we're
talking
that
one
to
two
second
finality
also
very
interesting.
Currently
it's
actually
no
get.
There's
no
gas
cost
to
using
it,
but
even
once
they
enable
gas.
B
So
recently
there
was
the
first
launch
on
aurora,
which
is
a
decentralized
exchange
called
tri
solaris,
so
try
solaris
team
is
really
awesome.
I
definitely
recommend
if
any
of
you
you
know,
have
the
chance
to
meet
them.
Go
speak
with
them
because,
like
they're,
a
great
team
going
to
be
great
builders
in
the
near
ecosystem,
they
base
their
contracts
off
of
sushi,
which
means
they're
already
audited,
and
you
know
going
to
be
pretty
safe
to
use
right
out
of
the
gate.
It's
actually
live
now,
there's
yeah.
B
They
have
some
pretty
exciting
announcements
coming
up
soon
and
yeah.
You
can
try
it
out
right
away
and
coming
soon
we
have
a
few
that
you
may
have
heard
of
from
the
ethereum
community.
So
one
of
the
ones
we're
really
excited
about
is
curve.
Finance
is
going
to
be
launching.
They
are
a
staple
swap
protocol
and
they're,
not
actually
writing
all
the
largest
d5
protocol.
That
goes
to
the
great
team
over
at
ave,
but
they
kind
of
trade
back
and
forth
as
to
which
one
has
the
largest
tvl.
B
That's
going
to
unlock
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
users
of
near
and
beyond,
sushi
swap
is
launching
as
well.
They
are
what
I
would
call
one
of
the
more
flexible
dexes
they
are
launching
a
new
product
called
trident
that
has
a
lot
of
different
types
of
markets
that
you
can
launch.
I'm
very
excited
to
see
them
coming
over
to
aurora
dodo
is
another
really
good,
decentralized
exchange
that
has
unique
mechanisms
that
enable
sort
of
deep
liquidity
pools
with
a
lot
less
assets,
which
is
really
fascinating
and
tying
them
all
together
is
kyber.
B
B
So
I
think
it's
only
going
to
be
a
matter
of
you
know
a
very
short
amount
of
time
before
we
see
billion
dollar
protocol
dials.
You
know
this
is
like
the
the
dow
four
unit
swap,
for
instance,
already
a
billion
dollar
protocol
down
the
dial
for
sushi
shop.
Already
there
we're
going
to
see
this
on
near.
B
Very
very
soon,
I
think,
there's
some
some
teams
that
are
building
up
this
momentum
pretty
quickly
and
what's
going
to
be
really
interesting,
is
when
these
daos
actually
start
building
products
and
utilizing
products
that
allow
them
to
to
act
with
each
other
like
end,
users
would
act
with
with
these
protocols.
So
imagine
dowels
lending
to
each
other.
B
Imagine
dials
like
doing
swaps
with
each
other,
all
trustlessly,
all
through
smart
contracts,
as
I've
spun
on
a
lot
about
like
how
much
I'm
a
fan
of
liquid
staking
liquid
staking
is
a
small
subset
of
a
much
larger
idea,
called
superfluid
collateral.
What
this
means
is
you
basically
have
your
asset
in
one
place
and
then
you're
able
to
use
it
in
two
or
more
other
places.
So
the
simplest
example
of
that
is
that
staking
derivative
that
stake
near
where
it's
locked
and
staked
in
the
network,
but
then
you're
using
the
stick.
B
In
your
token,
in
a
lot
of
other
protocols,
you
know-
and
I
think
what's
going
to
be
really
fascinating-
is
we're
going
to
see
this
being
used
across
chains
so
on
near
you're,
going
to
be
able
to
use
your
assets
that
are
currently
locked
in,
say,
ave
on
ethereum,
on
polygon,
bsc
or
avalanche,
and
then
use
that
in
maybe
even
ave
on
near,
which
is
going
to
be
really
fascinating.
B
Another
team
who's
working
on
some
really
interesting
projects.
This
is
like
basically,
what's
called
single-sided
staking,
which
basically
gives
you
some
passive
low
risk
income.
I'm
not
going
to
touch
too
much
on
that
one,
but
I
think
it's
an
exciting
concept,
taking
advantage
of
the
unique
scalability
of
nir
we're
soon
going
to
see
order,
bus
bait
order
book
based
decentralized
exchanges.
There
are
a
few
of
these
that
are
in
the
wild
now
on
on
protocols
like
solana
and
others.
B
Nir
is
definitely
uniquely
well
positioned
to
to
expand
this
offering
and
we
envision
a
world
where
you
basically
will
be
able
to
use
these
derivatives
with
intersparing
assets
as
the
collateral
which
just
improves
your
basically
your
payout
potential
and
one
of
my
favorite
features,
and
I
think
this
is
the
future.
We're
going
with
all
stablecoins
is
we're
going
to
see
derivative
back,
stable
coins.
B
That'll
have
perfect
price
stability
if
anyone's
interested
in
this
concept,
please
come
talk
to
me,
I'm
very
bullish
that
this
is
actually
going
to
play
a
major
role
in
near's,
stable
coin
future
and
will
be
a
very
bright
one.
B
Now,
let's
walk
through
a
quick
scenario
that
I
think
is
a
really
exciting
illustration
of
what
kind
of
the
kind
of
flexibility
that
near
offers.
So,
let's
imagine
that
you
earned
samir
on
near
crowd,
which
is
a
great
just
kind
of
work
for
near
earth
like
do
some
work
and
earn
near,
don't
even
have
to
buy
it
wait
to
get
onboarded
and
it's
been
actually
providing
a
lot
of
people.
Some
interesting
income
earn
some
urine
near
crowd.
B
You
then
take
that
near
and
you
stake
it
in
metapool,
so
you're
securing
the
network,
but
you
also
have
this
stake
near
that
you
can
now
do
something
with
you,
then
go
over
to
burrow
you
deposit.
This
stake
near
as
your
collateral,
and
you
borrow
some
dye
against
it,
and
all
this
is
happening
on
native
year.
Now
is
where
it
gets
interesting.
You
take
that
dye
and
you
supply
that
die
on
curve.
B
Now
curve
is
running
on
aurora,
but
this
is
going
to
feel
completely
seamless,
you're
still
all
in
here,
but
it's
as
though
you
didn't
go
anywhere,
but
you're
now
using
curve
a
completely
different
product
designed
for
a
completely
different
virtual
machine.
B
You
get
some
3-pole
tokens
and
you'll
also
be
earning
curve,
as
their
native
token,
so
yield
is
just
going
up
and
up
and
now
imagine
that
you
take
that
those
three
pole
tokens
and
you
you
deploy
them
into
we'll
call
it
perp
chain,
a
decentralized
exchange,
that's
basically
running
as
its
own
app
chain
using
substrate-based
app
chain
using
octopus,
and
you
buy
some
leverage
new
with
this.
So
you
basically
have
gone
through
all
of
these
different
environments,
all
running
on
near
starting
with
samir.
B
This
is
the
future
that
is,
is
actually
not
very
far
at
all,
and
I
think
it's
very
exciting,
and
it's
not
something
that
we
see
offered
anywhere
else
now
taking
a
bit
of
a
detour
and
talking
about
how
we're
at
like
one
of
the
many
ways
that
we
are
going
to
build
this
future
and
get
here
one
of
the
things
we're
really
excited
to
talk
about
last
week.
For
the
first
time
the
proximity
is
a
big
part
of.
Is
this
defy
grand
style?
B
B
What
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
really
just
look
for
the
top
d5
builders
on
any
blockchain
and
work
with
them
to
build
out
and
like
great
new
applications,
because
we
believe
near
is
the
best
blockchain
for
this
we're
targeting
to
distribute
this
over
a
period
of
about
four
years,
but
I
actually
think
that
this
is
something
we
can
make
even
more
sustainable
and
it
could
be.
You
know
a
way
that
we
can
support
teams
for
the
long
term,
not
even
just
give
all
of
this
money
away.
B
One
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
do
differently
than
other
programs
is
like
for
us.
The
most
important
aspect
of
this
is
that
it's
community-led.
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
share
on
this
right
now,
unfortunately,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
dow
from
day
one
there's,
no
single
party,
that's
running
this
and
over
time
the
community
is
going
to
be
involved
in
a
big
way.
This
is
an
important
part
of
we
believe
to
make
this
initiative
sustainable
and
also
to
have
the
biggest
impact
and,
if
you're
interested,
please
go
ahead
and
apply.
B
There's
a
little
bitly
link
for
you.
If
you're
a
builder,
if
you're
just
interested,
if
you
want
to
learn
more,
go
ahead
and
shoot
us
an
application
and
someone
from
the
team
will
get
back
to
you
all
right.
So
that's
what
I
have
for
you
guys
today:
yeah
we're
we're
we're
big
believers
that
near
vember
is
coming
and
yeah.
If
you're
interested
in
getting
in
touch
with
me
or
other
people
from
the
team,
please
go
ahead
and
give
us
a
follow
or
shoot
us
a
message.
A
Hi
super
interesting:
can
you
go
over
aurora,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out.
You
said
you
can
use
metamask.
I
guess
it's
an
evm
compatible
chain
right.
If
you
could
just
expand
on
that,
and
also
what
happened
to
the
rainbow
bridge.
Is
that
still
a
thing
or.
B
Yeah
great
question,
so
the
rainbow
bridge
is
still
a
thing
it's
actually
built
or
currently
maintained
by
the
aurora
team,
so
just
to
give
more
context
on
what
aurora
is
so
the
easiest
thing
to
think
about
is
that
aurora
is
an
evm
compat,
fully
compatible
environment
that
is
running
on
the
near
blockchain.
So
the
ramifications
of
this
developers
who
have
built
say
curve
the
curve
developers
can
basically
change
like
one
pretty
small
change.
B
You
change
the
rpc
node
that
you're
targeting
which
would
be
the
aurora
rpc
node,
deploy
their
smart
contracts
like
to
through
that
rpc
notice,
so
it'll
end
up
being
wrapped
into
a
near
transaction
and
then
I'll
actually
be
deployed
or
deployed
into
a
smart
contract.
That's
running
out
near
so
I
think
it's
actually
one
of
the
fascinating
things
about
aurora,
which
is
complex,
but
we
do
think
is
really
cool.
B
Is
that
aurora
is
actually
a
rust
smart
contract
that
is
essentially
executing
evm
bytecode,
and
so
this
means
that
yeah
anyone
who's
developed,
an
evm
application
can
deploy
it
to
aurora
and
then,
even
probably,
more
importantly,
and
more
excitingly
people
can
use
that
application
using
any
sort
of
evms
compatible
like
wallet
so
meta
mask
something
by
a
wallet,
connect,
etc.
You
just
have
to
kind
of
change
if
you've
ever
used
a
different
chain,
that's
similar
evm
compatible
like
polygon
or
avalanche.
A
How
how
easy
is
it
for
someone
who's
100
into
solidity,
and
they
want
to
come
over
through
aurora,
because
one
of
the
biggest
complaints
I've
heard
from
if
developers
is
that
you
know
they're,
just
too
lazy
to
learn
russ
right,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
idea
like
is
it
that
simple
I
mean
I
did
meet
somebody
here
who
was
into
pretty
much
everything,
but
they
started
as
a
solidity,
dab
and
they're
coming
through
the
aurora
bridge.
But
can
you
just
give
us
an
idea
how
easy
or
is
it
difficult?
B
It
I
mean
it's,
it's,
it
couldn't
be
simpler.
No,
I
mean
you
know
yeah,
it
really
couldn't
be
simpler.
You,
the
the
you,
basically
change,
one
line
in
your
deploy,
script
and
it'll
just
work
and
then
for
user.
Now
for
users
they
have
to
bridge
right.
You
know
it
is
a
separate
blockchain,
so
you
know
you
have
to
like
say
you
have.
Let's
just
say
you
have
ethereum
on
you
know
on
ethereum
you
have
ether
on
ethereum
you
want
to
use,
you
know,
say
sushi
on
aurora.
B
You
use
the
aurora
bridge,
which
is
really
just
the
rainbow
bridge.
It's
just
that
it's
it's
specifically
pointed
at
aurora,
instead
of
pointed
at
native
near
and
you
send
your
you're
basically
sending
ethereum
to
the
smart
contract.
The
bridge
sort
of
re-layers
work
their
magic,
and
you
know
they'll
see
that
there
was
sent
there
so
like
that
ether
will
then
be
locked.
They'll,
then,
basically
mint
new
ether
on
the
near
side,
to
your
account
it'll,
be
your
same
account.
So
it'll
be
your
same.
B
You
know
like
ethereum,
address,
64
character
address
and
then
you
can
just
deposit
it
using
metamask
into
sushi.
Now
the
only
thing
step
for
the
user
there
is
that
they'll
have
to
change
their
environment
to
aurora.
Thankfully
metamask
has
made
this
really
easy
and
it's
sort
of
just
one
click
to
add
aurora,
and
then
they,
you
know,
go
use
sushi.
B
That's
a
great
question,
so
there
is
a
delay.
It's
I
think,
four
to
eight
hours
right
now.
That's
just
yeah!
You
know
something
that
we
do
want
to
improve,
there's
a
great
opportunity
for
products
there
where
you
can,
because
it
is
sort
of
a
similar
to
an
optimistic
roll-up,
but
with
a
much
like
much
less
latency,
and
it's
provable
that
that,
though,
that
those
assets
will
eventually
end
up
on
that
new
chain.
But
there
needs
to
be
a
time
basically
for
someone
to
kind
of
like
challenge
in
case
it
was.
B
You
know,
like
an
invalid,
an
invalid
transfer,
so
there's
a
great
product
to
be
built
there,
where
you
can
have
a
fast
withdrawal
where
you
basically
are
just
lending
someone
the
asset
for
48
hours
taking
a
small
fee,
and
then
they
get
it
instantly.
So
we're
working
on
that
super.
A
B
Oh
okay,
so
I
guess
we'll
just
a
show
for
tomorrow,
so
we
have
a
d5
panel
tomorrow
with
some
great
other
teams
from
the
the
near
ecosystem.
Tri
solaris
is
going
to
be
there
panther
protocol.
I
believe
one
inch
as
well
so
definitely
tune
in
for
that.
I
think
it's
around
the
same
time,
but
check
the
schedule.
Yeah
cool,
any
more
questions.
We've
got
about
five
minutes
here.
All
right
looks
like
we
got
one
over
here.
C
Hi,
oh
hello,
hi,
kendall,
hi,
huge
fan.
I'm
just
wondering
how
important
you
think
it
is
in
terms
of
cross-chain
compatibility
right.
So
just
going
on
from
what
that
gentleman
said,
you
know:
we've
got
the
bridge
to
aurora
and
we're
getting
the
bridge
to
bsc.
B
Yeah
super
important,
I
think
cross
chain
compatibility
is,
is
really
key
and
not
even
just
so
that
you
know
we
can
get
assets
from
all
of
these
chains
and
have
them
be
used
in
in
products
on
near,
but
also
so
that
products
built
on
near
that
are
native
to
near
can
be
used
on
these
other
chains.
Yeah.
I
guess,
like
you
know.
Yes,
we
want.
B
We
want
near
to
you,
know
to
have
its
own
really
big,
really
mature
ecosystem,
but
I
think
there's
some
fascinating
products
that
are
being
built
on
other
chains
that
you
know
are
not
as
easily
compatible
with
near
just
yet.
A
big
part
of
the
initiative
for
aurora
and
octopus
is,
of
course,
to
bring
this
to
near,
and
I
think
over
the
time
just
about
every
product,
we'll
be
able
to
run
natively
on
near,
but
there
are
certainly
you
know,
markets
and
users
that
we
want
to
attract
on
other
chains
and
yeah.
B
I
think
that
that's
extremely
important
and
cross-chain
compatibility
good
bridges.
All
of
that
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
happening
in
in
crypto
and
d5.
Right
now,.
B
Cool,
I
think
that's
yeah
right,
that's
it
and
we
got
sasha
here
all
right
thanks.
Everyone.