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A
Here,
thank
you,
members,
a
few
housekeeping
items
before
we
get
started.
I
would
remind
everyone
on
the
committee
and
those
here
in
the
audience
to
please
silence
all
electronic
devices
for
those
who
are
here
and
those
who
are
listening
online.
Please
remember
that
all
amendments
written
testimony
must
be
submitted
to
the
committee
manager
by
noon
on
the
day
prior
to
the
committee
meeting
for
those
who
are
joining
us
on
zoom.
Please
remember
to
keep
yourself
muted
at
all
times,
but
if
you
would
please
keep
your
video
on.
A
That
is
the
only
way
we
know
you
are
with
us
and
the
only
way
we
can
see
you.
I
would
also
like
to
remind
everyone
that
members
will
be
using
their
laptops
to
view
exhibits
and
amendments
and
bills.
It
is
not
a
sign
of
inattention
with
that.
We
do
have
a
work
session
today
and
bill
hearing.
We
will
get
started
with
our
work
session
members.
You
should
have
the
work
session
documents
with
you.
A
I
will
like
to
note
that
we
will
be
pulling
senate
bill
245
from
today's
work
session,
which
will
leave
us
with
three
items
on
work
session.
With
that,
we
can
go
ahead
and
go
into
our
work
session
and
I
will
hand
it
over
to
our
policy.
Analyst
miss
marjorie
paslov
thomas
to
go
move
forward
with
senate
bill
122.
C
B
Thank
you,
sir.
I
apologize
for
not
raising
my
hand
far
enough.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
I'll
be
voting
no
on
this
bill,
I'm
just
not
there.
Yet.
I
want
to
talk
to
a
couple
people
some
more
so,
although
I'll
be
a
no
here
I'll
reserve,
my
right
to
change
over
on
floor,
if
I
can
get
to
fully
comprehend
some
parts
all
right.
Thank
you.
Chair.
A
Thank
you
assembly,
member
o'neill
assembly
member
dickman.
Thank
you,
chair
just
to
get
out
of
that.
Okay
members,
any
other
discussion
on
the
bill
before
you,
okay,
seeing
none.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
to
do
pass
so
moved.
Madam
chair,
thank
you.
I
have
a
first
by
vice
chair
carlton
and
the
second
by
speaker
fryerson
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
A
Okay,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
I
I
opposed.
I
have
two
in
opposition.
I
have
assembly
member
o'neal
and
assembly
member
dickman.
Anyone
else.
Okay
motion
carries.
I
will
assign
that
floor
statement
to
assemblymember
considine,
okay.
The
next
item
for
work
session
is
senate
bill
248.
Mrs
pascal
thomas.
C
Thank
you,
ma'am,
chair
senate
bill
248
revises
provisions
relating
to
the
collection
of
medical
debt.
It
is
sponsored
by
senator
john
darrell
loop
and
it
was
heard
on
april
23rd.
There
are
three
proposed
amendments.
Half
of
them
were
kind
of
discussed
during
the
hearing
in
the
second
half
were
provided
afterwards,
so
the
first
is
to
amend
the
definition
of
medical
debt
and
section
two
of
the
bill
to
exclude
certain
extensions
of
credit
owed
to
a
third
party
unless
the
credit
was
extended
solely
to
purchase
medical
goods
or
services.
C
The
second
proposed
amendment
and
then
section
7
of
the
bill
to
require
a
collection
agency
to
at
least
60
days
before
taking
any
action
to
collect
a
medical
debt.
Some
written
notes
to
the
medical
debtor
by
certified
mail,
identifying
the
name
of
the
collection
agency
and
informing
the
medical
debtor
it
has
been
assigned
or
obtained.
The
medical
debt
to
b,
is
to
require
the
written
notice
sent
to
a
medical
day
to
include
the
principal
amount
of
the
debt.
C
2C
is
to
specify
that
the
60-day
period
before
action
may
be
taken
to
collect
a
medical
debt
does
not
prohibit
a
collection
agency
from
accepting
voluntary
and
debt
or
initiated
payments
set
forth
certain
requirements
relaying
to
such
voluntary
and
debt
or
initiated
payments
and
prohibit
the
waiver
of
the
requirements
of
the
bill.
2D
delete,
subsections,
1d
and
2
of
that
section.
C
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'm
just
trying
to
track
the
amendment
with
my
notes
and
there
was
a
a
couple
of
moving
pieces
in
this.
So
all
of
these
amendments
I
have
written
off
as
being
discussed
in
the
committee
members.
There
was
there
one
that
came
in
afterwards
and
if
we
could
elaborate
on
that,
please.
C
That
is
the
second
amendment
behind
the
sheet,
so
it's
dated
may
6th
and
it
was
submitted
by
bear
bailey
bertollon
and
it
addresses
sections
seven
and
eight
and
made
some
additional
changes
based
on
the
feedback
that
was
discussed
during
the
committee
hearing.
It's
it
looks
similar
to
the
other
one.
A
C
A
C
C
Originally,
there
was
two
sets
of
amendments,
but
this
mock-up
kind
of
combines
everything
together,
so
the
first
is
to
amend
the
definition
of
data
broker
in
section
two
of
the
bill.
The
second
would
be
to
revise
provisions
concerning
the
enforcement
of
the
requirements
imposed
on
operators
and
data
brokers
regarding
the
collection
and
sale
of
covered
information
for
the
purpose
of
authorizing
any
operator
or
data
broker,
who
has
not
previously
been
found
to
have
failed
to
comply
with
such
requirements
to
remedy
any
failure
to
comply
within
30
days
after
being
informed
of
the
failure.
C
The
fourth
proposed
amendment
is
to
delete
subsection
2b
of
section
7.5
of
this
bill
and
amend
the
exception,
provided
in
section
1.5
bill
to
include
a
financial
institution
or
an
affiliate
of
a
financial
institution
or
any
personally
identifiable
information
regulated
by
the
federal
gram,
leach
bailey
act
and
the
regulations
adopted
pursuant
there
to
those
collective
maintainers
sold,
as
provided
in
the
act.
Thank
you.
A
A
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
I
I
opposed
okay
seeing
none
motion
carries.
I
will
assign
that
floor
statement
to
assemblymember
flores,
okay,
members
that
completes
our
work
session
for
today's
afternoon.
We
will
now
go
ahead
and
move
into
our
bill
hearing
portion
of
the
agenda
for
those
who
are
listening,
I
will
be
taking
the
bills
out
of
order.
I
will
be
starting
with
assembly
bill
190,
followed
by
assembly,
bill
186
and
last
a
cen,
I'm
sorry.
I
said
assembly
bill.
A
We
will
start
with
senate
bill
190,
followed
by
assembly,
senate
bill
186
and
then
senate
bill
307.
With
that
I
see
our
bill's
sponsor
here.
So
I
will
open
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
190,
which
provides
for
the
dispensing
of
self-administered
self-administered
hormonal
contraceptives,
welcome
majority
leader.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
having
me
here
today.
Again.
My
name
is
nicole
cannazzaro
and
I
represent
senate
district
six,
which
is
located
in
the
northwest
portion
of
the
las
vegas
valley,
and
I'm
here
to
present
to
you
senate
bill
190.,
which
will
allow
women
to
access
birth
control
in
the
state
of
nevada
without
a
prior
prescription
from
their
doctor
and
while
being
covered
by
insurance.
E
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I
do
have
with
me
as
well
available
via
zoom,
dr
sandy
coke,
who
will
be
able
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
context,
but
I
would
like
to
provide
just
a
few
comments
regarding
the
bill
to
the
committee.
First.
E
E
Other
women
may
lack
regular
access
to
transportation
to
go
to
and
from
doctor's
appointments,
limiting
their
ability
to
obtain
a
prescription
and
for
many
nevada
women.
The
barrier
lies
in
juggling
multiple
roles,
including
providing
care
for
family
members
working
and
assisting
with
their
kids
education.
E
Birth
control
empowers
women
to
make
decisions
that
are
right
for
their
own
bodies,
and
medical
research
supports
this
too,
from
treating
acne
to
ovarian
cysts,
birth
control
has
been
prescribed
to
millions
of
women
to
benefit
our
health
and
over
the
course
of
decades.
Research
compiled
shows
that
access
to
birth
control
has
a
direct
link
to
reduced
infant
and
maternal
mortalities.
E
E
A
A
F
Okay,
perfect
dr
coke
go
ahead
and
try
again,
let's
make
sure
this
is
working.
G
G
The
american
college
of
ob
gyn
actually
started
to
advocate
for
over-the-counter
access
to
contraception.
Almost
10
years
ago.
The
fda's
assessment
of
safety
for
all
contraceptives
have
shown
no
significant
toxicity
and
multiple
studies
have
shown.
Screening
tool
is
highly
successful
in
identifying
a
small
number
who
should
not
use
the
over-the-counter
contraceptives
that
contain
estrogen.
G
A
nationally
representative
sample
of
30
percent
of
women
who
try
to
obtain
a
prescription
for
a
hormonal
contraceptive
reported
difficulties
obtaining
the
descript,
the
prescription
or
refills.
A
variety
of
factors
contribute
to
this,
but
lead
to
gaps
in
care,
early
discontinuation
and
put
women
at
risk
for
unintended
pregnancy.
G
G
Some
people
have
expressed
a
concern
that
women
may
not
get
recommended
preventative
care
if
they
do
not
see
a
provider
to
obtain
hormonal
contraception.
Studies
have
shown
that
women
who
can
access
contraceptives
without
it
without
a
prescription
have
similar
rates
of
receiving
preventative
health
care.
As
with
women
who
who
have
to
have
a
prescription
in
order
to
obtain
contraceptives,
although
ob
gyn
still
recommend
that
that
women
see
their
doctors
regularly,
we
we
don't
believe
that
delaying
or
missing
an
appointment
should
be
a
reason
for
women
to
be
denied
contraception.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you,
dr
kell.
So
what
senate
bill
190
does
is
puts
in
place
a
practice
protocol
that
will
allow
for
pharmacists
to
dispense,
birth
control
to
women
in
nevada,
currently,
13
states
in
the
district
of
columbia
have
similar
laws
allowing
pharmacists
to
provide
birth
control
without
a
prior
prescription,
whether
through
a
standing
order,
practice
protocols
or
by
expanding
their
scope
of
practice.
I
would
note,
madam
chair
that
we
did
submit
a
proposed
mock-up
to
senate
bill
190..
E
This
is
currently
how
we
are
asking
to
do
a
number
of
other
things
in
not
only
this
legislative
session,
but
is
sort
of
the
preferred
method
for
allowing
for
pharmacists
to
have
that
ability,
in
particular,
because
of
concerns
over
making
sure
that
there
is
appropriate
liability
and
responsibility
with
respect
to
that.
E
E
2.5
requires
the
board
of
pharmacy
to
adopt
regulations
to
establish
a
practice
protocol
for
dispensing
self-administered,
hormonal
contraceptives
and
sections
2.5
and
section
3
require
that
a
risk
assessment
questionnaire,
which
dr
koch
also
spoke
about,
must
be
administered
to
a
patient
who
requests
a
self-administered
hormonal
contraceptive,
and
it
includes
the
information
that
must
be
provided
in
writing
to
those
patients
going
back
to
section
three.
This
section
authorizes
a
pharmacist
to
dispense
a
self-administered
hormonal
contraceptive
under
the
practice
protocol.
E
Additionally,
pharmacists
must
create
and
maintain
a
record
of
each
person
to
whom
a
self-administered
hormonal
contraceptive
is
dispensed,
including
the
name,
drug
dispense
and
other
relevant
information
required
by
the
protocol.
Pharmacists
must
also
inform
patients
of
proper
administration
and
storage
of
the
contraceptive
potential
side
effects
and
the
need
to
use
other
methods
of
contraceptive
if
appropriate.
Certain
written
records
related
to
the
request
or
dispensing
of
self-administered
contraceptives
must
also
be
provided
to
patients,
regardless
of
whether
a
contraceptive
is
dispensed.
E
Sections
five
and
six
amend
the
scope
of
practice
of
a
pharmacy
to
include
dispensing
self-administered
hormonal
contraceptives
and
authorize
the
state
board
of
pharmacy
to
suspend
or
revoke
a
certificate
to
practice
as
a
registered
pharmacist.
If
the
pharmacist
dispenses
such
contraceptives
without
complying
with
the
provisions
of
the
bill
and
finally
section
7
and
sections
9-15
require
certain
health
insurers,
including
medicaid
and
state
and
local
government,
governmental
employer-based
plans,
among
others,
to
cover
self-administered
hormonal
contraceptives
dispensed
by
a
pharmacist
gerhardy.
E
This
concludes
my
explanation
of
senate
bill
190,
which
will
allow
women
to
have
easier
access
to
birth
control,
and
I
do
urge
the
committee
support.
But
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
committee
may
have,
and
I
know
that
dr
cook
was
also
available
but
may
need
to
leave
as
she
is
currently
in
practice
as
well.
So
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
committee
may
have.
A
H
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
kasama
district
2
for
the
record.
Thank
you
senator
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
I
read
through
the
bill
and
I
was
just
curious.
Was
there
any?
I
didn't
see
it?
Is
there
any
age
limit
in
here
any
restriction
on
age
limit?
I
may
have
missed
that.
E
Thank
you
for
the
question:
assemblywoman
nicole
cannizzaro
senate
district,
six
and
through
you,
madam
chair
to
the
assemblywoman,
and
there
is
not
explicit
language
in
the
bill
that
has
a
direct
age
limit,
and
I
don't
know
if
dr
koch
had
some
additional
information
or
comments
that
she
could
provide
in
that
context
as
well.
G
The
american
college
of
ob
gyn
and
the
american
medical
association
recommend
that
this
not
include
an
age
limit.
We
use
birth
control
pills
for
for
girls,
starting
as
young
as
their
menstrual
periods
do,
and
so
I
I
would
not
want
to
restrict
this
to
an
an
age
that
to
to
an
age
a
later
age.
A
And
that
was
dr
sandy
cook
for
the
record,
dr
koch,
if
you
would
just
introduce
yourself
before
answering
any
questions
and
majority
leader,
you
can
go
directly
to
the
members.
E
G
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
currently
in
the
state
of
nevada,
girls
on
at
any
age
can
obtain
birth
control
through
the
public
health
department
and
there
there
is
no
parental
consent
required
in
the
state
of
nevada.
D
Madam
chair,
so
I
I
guess
my
caution
in
this
bill
and
I
understand
senator
where
you're
trying
to
get
but
without
the
yearly
examine
at
that
time
it
was
three
years
the
cancer
that
I
suffered
from
would
not
have
been
caught.
We
know
what
busy
moms
are
like.
We
know
what
busy
young
women
are
like
if
they
put
off
getting
that
exam
every
two
three
four
five
years.
D
D
So
I'm
just
concerned
that
something
might
not
get
found
if
there
isn't
some
exam
somewhere
along
the
way,
if
it's
just
open-ended,
how
do
we-
and
I
know
we
can
remind
them-
and
we
can
put
up
signs
but
you're,
really
inspired
to
go
to
the
doctor
when
you
know
that
pill
prescription
is
going
to
be
up
and
you
make
that
appointment
when
you
can.
So
that's
that's
my
concern.
E
E
But
there
are
so
many
more
that
just
aren't
going
to
and
are
going
to
resort
to
other
methods,
or
simply
you
know
not
take
that
precaution
and
we
end
up
with
other.
I
think
long-term
issues
with
infant
and
maternal
mortalities
with
children
who
are
not
being
properly
supported
because
it
wasn't
necessarily
where
that
mom
wanted
to
go.
E
Certainly
nothing
in
the
bill
is
meant
to
to
take
away
from
the
fact
that
we
go
to
the
ob
gyn
for
any
number
of
reasons,
not
the
least
of
which
is
having
a
prescription
for
birth
control.
We
should
still
be
going
for
pap
smears.
We
should
still
be
going
for
other
checkups
when
there
are
other
issues
that
arise.
We
are
still
going
to
the
doctor.
E
Similarly,
you
know
if
we,
if
we
get
a
cold
and
and
need
to
take
theraflu
or
need
to
take
some
sort
of
over-the-counter
medicine
that
we
may
get
from
the
from
the
the
walgreens
or
if
we
ask
for
the
pharmacist
to
prescribe
something
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we
don't
go
to
the
doctor.
E
E
I
also
know
that
dr
koch-
and
I
don't
know
she
would
want
to
explain
more
but
where
we
have
seen
this
before,
there's
not
a
decrease
in
women
actually
accessing
those
important
parts
of
health
care
to
get
checked
regularly
for
cancer
screenings
and
for
other
issues
that
come
up
that
we
may
see
an
ob
gyn
for,
even
though
we're
allowing
for
easier
dispensing
of
hormonal
contraceptives.
G
Hi
dr
sandra
koch,
for
the
record-
I
just
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
be
in
a
position
where
we're
trying
to
coerce
women
into
getting
getting
health
care,
and
I
think
you
know,
holding
contraception
hostage
their
access
to
contraception
hostage
because
they
don't
because
they
cannot
access
or
do
not
access
health
care.
It's
probably
not
the
right
approach.
G
The
the
study
was
done
where
they
looked
at
women
in
mexico,
where
it's
not
required
to
get
a
contraception
a
prescription
for
contraceptive
and
comparing
the
use
of
screening
methods
for
various
healthcare
needs,
and
there
was
no
difference
between
the
women
in
texas
and
the
women
in
in
mexico
when
you
compared
their
access
to
preventative
health
care
services.
I
I
do
think
it's
really
important
to
recognize
that
the
coercion
is
the
wrong
approach.
Here.
G
D
C
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
senator
for
bringing
this
bill
and
I
too
share
some
of
the
same
concerns.
I'm
sure
you
heard
as
I'm
assemblyman
carlton.
Sometimes
you
know,
especially
with
younger
younger
women.
C
They
think
that,
oh
you
know,
I'm
young,
nothing
can
affect
me
and
sometimes
I
think
abnormalities
and
things
are
caught
only
by
going
in
and
you
know
needing
a
prescription
or
something
like
that
and
so,
and
so
you
know
I
do
have
that
concern
as
well,
but
you
know,
I
also
think
this
is
can
can
be
beneficial,
so
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions.
C
E
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Nicole
cannizzaro
senate
district
six
assembly,
women
know
the
way
that
the
bill
is
structured
is
that
they
would
provide
the
questionnaire
to
any
woman
who's
coming
in
to
ask
for
the
self-administered
hormonal
contraceptive,
based
on
that
questionnaire,
which
has
been
highly
effective
in
recognizing
the
same
things
that
your
particular
practitioner
would
recognize.
E
Obviously
that's
part
of
the
patient's
records
and
there
would
be
as
part
of
the
bill
regulations
that
would
be
adopted
for
the
practice
protocol.
They
would
prescribe
some
of
those
things
so
that
there
would
be
a
record
of
what
had
been
administered,
but
the
point
of
the
questionnaire
is
to
identify
any
of
the
same
things
that
that
a
practitioner
would
be
looking
for.
That
might
say,
hey
this
hormonal
contraceptive
is
not
appropriate.
E
I
would
also
note
that
we
are
talking
about
the
self-administered
contraceptives,
and
so
there
are
some
contraceptive
pieces
like
an
iud
or
something
like
that
that
would
have
to.
You
would
still
have
to
go
to
a
healthcare
practitioner
for
those
kinds
of
things.
So
this
is
you
know
when
you're,
when
you're
talking
about
this.
E
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
further
explanation.
So
what
if,
let's
say
they
get
one
prescription
and
then,
for
whatever
reason
they
have
some
side
effects.
Would
that
person
then
be
able
to
go
back
to
the
pharmacist
and
discuss
that
and
try
something
else.
E
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Nicole
cannizzaro
senate
district,
six
assemblywoman.
Yes,
they
would
be
able
to
go
back
to
the
pharmacist.
Obviously,
that
may
trigger
the
pharmacist
to
say:
hey
you
know.
According
to
this
questionnaire,
you've
had
some
issues
with
hormonal
contraceptive
we'd.
E
Refer
you
to
a
health
care
provider
for
further
follow-up,
most
women
who
get
hormonal
contraceptive
care
of
the
sort
that
we're
asking
for
pharmacists
to
have
the
ability
to
dispense,
get
that
from
their
practitioner
and
have
no
side
effects
and
and
no
issues
and
are
able
to
keep
that
prescription
for
years
and
years
and
every
year
you
know
they
go
in
or
or
every,
however,
many
years
three
years
and
go
in
and
get
the
prescription
just
filled
by
their
doctor
and
the
doc
they
go
down
and
pick
up
the
prescription
and
that's
it,
and
so
for
most
women.
E
This.
That
questionnaire
is
going
to
be
able
to
delineate
what
those
issues
may
be,
but
where
there
are
further
issues
they
would
go
to
a
health
care
provider
to
get
some
additional
follow-up
and
find
out
what
exactly
the
problem
may
be,
but
they
could
go
back
to
the
pharmacist
and
say
you
know
what
this
one
isn't
really
working.
Is
there
something
else
based
upon
this
questionnaire?
That
might
be
a
little
more
effective
for
me,
and
I
you
know
I
can
think
of
of
different
circumstances.
Where
that's
come
up.
E
Where
you
know
sometimes
you
may
you
may
gain
more
weight
with
a
certain
contraceptive
than
another
or
you
know
it
may
exacerbate
things
like
acne
or
other.
You
know
responses,
and
so
you
might
not
want
that
particular
brand,
and
they
could
certainly
go
to
the
pharmacist
to
to
address
that,
but
I
think
in
in
all
cases
where
there
may
be
complications,
we'd
want
them
to
see
a
healthcare
provider.
B
Thank
you
chair,
thank
you,
senator
for
this
bill
and
anything
dr
koh
says,
carries
a
lot
away
with
me.
So
I
am
supportive,
but
I
do
have
a
question
for
you
since
we're
talking
in
some
groups
since
there's
no
age
limit,
maybe
15
16
year
old
girl
goes
in
fills
out
the
questionnaire
which
the
pharmacist
then
says
you
should
not.
You
may
have
some
health
issues.
B
You
should
go
see
your
doctor
before
that
before
I
can
issue
it
to
you,
so
the
young
lady
says
she
goes
down
the
street
to
the
next
pharmacy
knows
how
to
fill
out
the
questionnaire
now
a
little
better
with
she
wants
the
pills.
Maybe
for
whatever
reason,
is
there
any
protection
indemnification
given
to
the
pharmacist
for
giving
you
the
prescription
when
the
material
has
been
either
falsified
or
maybe
not
with
full
knowledge?
That's
I'm
looking
for
some
kind
of
protection
for
the
pharmacist.
E
Sure-
and
thank
you
for
that
question:
nicole
canozzaro
senate
district
six,
so
there
isn't
anything
specific
in
the
bill
that
delineates
some
of
those
items.
If
somebody
were
to
go
in
and
and
falsify
documents,
obviously
we
have
a
whole
host
of
of
state
laws
and
other
ordinances
and
regulations
and
other.
E
Items
that
pharmacists
would
have
to
abide
by
right
in
order
to
do
their
job
and
make
sure
that
we're
not
accepting
falsified
documents,
and
when
that
happens,
that
there
are
consequences
to
that.
I
think,
and
I
and
I
if,
if
dr
koch
wanted
to
weigh
in
on
any
of
it,
I
would
venture
to
say
it's:
it's
probably
going
to
be
very
difficult
for
someone
to
go
in
and
say:
okay.
Well,
it
was
this
particular
thing
in
this
particular
thing,
and
so
I'm
going
to
change
it.
E
I
would
venture
to
guess
that
that
is
probably
a
pretty
uncommon
and
would
be
very
rare
if
at
all
that
someone
would
would
be
going
from
one
to
another
if
they
couldn't
go
to
a
health
care
provider
and
in
addition,
as
dr
coke
mentioned,
they
could
just
go
to
the
state
health
department
and
obtain
you
know
the
same
thing
or
go
and
see
a
provider
as
well
to
obtain
contraceptive
care.
If
there
was
some
issue
with
the
questionnaire.
A
Members
any
other
questions:
okay,
a
majority
leader
I
just
have
one-
and
it's
just
out
of
curiosity,
clear,
and
I
think
I
know
what
direction
you
were
going
in,
but
I
just
like
it
for
the
record
you,
the
amendment,
changed
the
regulations
from
the
chief
medical
officer
to
under
jurisdiction
of
the
board.
Could
you
just
explain
to
me
why?
A
E
Thank
you
for
the
question
chair
nicole
canozzaro
senate
district
six,
so
we
originally
had
this
as
a
standing
order
from
the
chief
medical
officer.
E
The
chief
medical
officer
in
the
state
is
not
a
physician
who
is
licensed
in
the
state
of
nevada,
and
so
there
were
some
concerns
and
in
consultation
with
the
department
of
health
and
human
services,
some
concerns
about
where
liability
may
exist,
and
so
one
of
the
preferred
methods
to
do
this
was
to
create
that
practice.
Protocol
and
that's
what's
delineated
in
the
amendment.
E
A
Okay
and
seeing
no
further
questions
from
members,
I'm
going
to
move
us
into
testimony
because
we
do
have
a
pretty
lengthy
agenda
today,
I
will
be
taking
20
minutes
of
support,
opposition
and
neutral
20
minutes
each
20
minutes
for
support
20
minutes
for
opposition
and
20
minutes
for
neutral
for
all
three
of
the
bills
today,
just
to
keep
us
on
track,
and
so
we
don't
lose
members
to
the
afternoon
committee
members.
A
I
also
do
one
want
to
make
note
before
we
go
into
our
testimony
portion
that
we
will
be
going
back
into
a
work
session
after
the
bill
hearings
on
the
bill,
sb245.
That
was
on
the
work
session
at
the
beginning
of
the
agenda,
so
think
with
that,
seeing
no
one
here
in
carson
city
to
testify
in
support
of
senate
bill
190.
A
K
N-I-C-K-S-H-E-P-A-C-K
policy
and
program
associate
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
We
are
here
in
strong
support
of
sb-190.
Removing
barriers
to
access
to
birth
control
has
broad
positive
impacts
in
economics,
educational
opportunities,
racial
justice
in
other
areas.
Difficulty
accessing
birth
control
disproportionately
affects
women
of
color,
and
black
women
are
more
than
three
times
as
likely
to
have
physical
conditions
that
are
treated
with
hormonal
birth
control.
Removing
barriers
to
access
in
birth
control
can
only
benefit
all
communities.
K
K
A
35
decrease
in
dropout
rates.
The
bloomberg
business
week
has
listed
contraceptives
as
one
of
the
most
transformational
developments
in
the
business
sector
in
the
last
85
years.
It
has
helped
narrow
the
wage
gap
between
men
and
women
as
well.
Removing
barriers
and
access
to
birth
control
will
increase
access
to
education,
jobs
and
overall,
better
health.
We
urge
you
to
support
this
piece
of
legislation.
L
Thank
you
good
morning,
chair
harvey
and
members
of
the
commerce
and
community
labor
committee.
For
the
record.
My
name
is
jerry
burton
j-e-r-I
and
then
b-u-r-t-o-n,
I'm
the
president
of
the
nevada
chapter
of
the
nationalization
for
women
and
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
sv190
representing
our
members.
L
I
think
we
talked
about
it
earlier,
but
there's
15
other
u.s
jurisdictions
who
allow
pharmacists
to
prescribe
contraceptives
around
the
united
states
and
in
oregon
they
found
that
it
helped
women
in
rural
areas
with
accessibility,
and
we
know
during
the
pandemic,
women
found
access
to
their
doctor
difficult
and
they
still
needed.
Contraceptives.
L
Pharmacists
often
have
more
convenient
locations,
extended
hours
for
obviously
women
who
are
working
and
that's
something
that
physicians
certainly
lack
it's
hard
to
make
an
appointment
and
the
cost
of
the
appointment
taking
time
off
for
work
for
the
doctor's
appointment.
We
just
really
feel
like
this
will
help
women
in
nevada
with
access.
So
we
ask
you
to
support
sv190
to
help
the
women
in
nevada.
A
L
L
J
J
We
echo
what
those
before
me
have
already
said:
sb
190
is
critical
to
creating
easy
access
to
birth
control,
ensuring
women
are
able
to
make
decisions
about
their
bodies
and
their
futures,
allowing
pharmacists
to
distribute
birth
control
means
women
can
easily
access
necessary,
preventative
birth
methods
without
a
doctor's
appointment
and
without
insurance.
This
is
a
huge
step
in
women's
health
and
we
are
in
full
support
of
this
measure.
We
ask
you
to
support
this
bill
and
thank
you
for
your
time
this
afternoon.
L
J
sb
190
is
a
common
sense
policy
that
gives
nevadans
more
autonomy
over
their
reproductive
health
by
removing
the
barrier
to
having
of
having
to
see
a
doctor
simply
to
access
birth
control.
Allowing
pharmacists
to
dispense,
birth
control
will
have
a
positive
impact
on
all
people
seeking
hormonal
birth
control,
and
especially
people
of
color
and
those
in
low
income.
Income
communities
who
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
barriers
to
care,
increasing
access
to
reproductive
health
care
will
improve
the
lives
of
nevadans
and
make
our
state
stronger
and
more
equitable.
J
L
J
Good
afternoon,
chair
haudegee
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
serena
evans,
s-e-r-e-n-a,
e-v
a-n-s,
and
I'm
the
policy
coordinator
for
the
nevada
coalition
to
end
domestic
and
sexual
violence.
Having
easy
and
affordable
access
to
birth
control
is
important
for
everyone,
especially
for
victim
survivors
of
domestic
and
sexual
violence.
J
Accessing
health
care
is
a
challenge
for
many
nevadans
and
for
victim
survivors
who
are
constantly
surveyed
by
their
perpetrator.
Accessing
the
healthcare
professional
to
get
a
prescription
for
birth
control
is
not
always
feasible
or
safe.
In
some
instances,
perpetrators
will
accompany
the
victim
survivor
to
every
doctor,
appointment
to
assert
power
and
control
to
sabotage
their
use
of
birth
control.
J
Being
able
to
access
birth
control
over
the
counter
at
a
pharmacy
may
allow
victim
survivors,
the
much
needed
accessibility
to
be
able
to
access
birth
control,
to
prevent
unwanted
pregnancies
with
their
perpetrator,
allowing
people
to
access
birth
control
from
pharmacists
directly
will
greatly
decrease
barriers
for
so
many
nevadans
and
can
have
truly
positive
and
important
impacts
for
victim
survivors
of
domestic
and
sexual
violence.
Thank
you.
So
much.
L
J
I
am
the
southwest
regional
director
for
mayoral,
pro-choice
nevada
and
we
are
proud
to
testify,
in
support
of
sb-190
senator
candacero's
legislation
to
expand
birth
control
by
allowing
pharmacists
to
dispense,
contraception
to
individuals
without
their
doctor
authorizing
the
standing
order
with
the
chief
medical
officer.
Mayoral
is
a
not-for-profit
organization
dedicated
to
advancing
reproductive
freedom
for
everybody
through
political
policy
and
community
organizing
they
rail
organizes
through
the
state
through
things
like
virtual
meetups
phone
banks,
online
actions
and
community
events.
We
have
more
than
forty
four
thousand
battleborn
feminist,
strong
members
statewide
and
are
growing
every
day.
J
Contraception
is
an
essential
fact
for
tens
of
thousands
of
nevadans.
Indeed,
according
to
the
guttmacher
institute,
more
than
99
of
women
aged
15
to
44
report
using
some
form
of
contraception
with
more
than
60,
currently
using
contraception.
Most
women,
72
percent
use
a
non-permanent
method
like
to
kill
the
patch
of
the
ring.
If
sp190
becomes
law,
nevada
will
join
18
states
that
currently
allow
pharmacists
to
spend
self-administered
birth
control.
Medication,
that's
proven
to
be
safe
and
effective
over
decades
of
use.
J
J
Sb190
makes
critical
steps
towards
breaking
down
barriers
to
contraception
and
ensuring
we
can
all
live
in
a
more
free
nevada
that
works
for
everybody.
Nevadans
are
proud
to
live
in
a
state
with
a
long
history
of
trusting
women
to
make
their
own
personal
health
care
decisions
for
this
bill.
The
silver
state
can
live
up
to
our
values.
We
urge
the
members
of
this
committee
to
vote
in
support.
Thank
you.
L
J
J
nevada
has
a
significant
shortage
of
primary
care
providers
and
this
may
be
especially
burdensome
on
patients
living
in
rural
areas
and
those
in
primary
care.
Doesn't
68
of
women
have
reported
difficulty
and
access
to
care.
However,
the
majority
of
americans,
more
than
90
percent,
live
within
5
miles
of
a
pharmacy
and
are
able
to
access
those
services.
J
Pharmacists
have
a
doctorate
degree
focused
on
medication.
Management
are
highly
trained
professionals,
but
unfortunately,
are
underutilized.
Pharmacists
being
able
to
prescribe
safe
and
effective
hormonal.
Contraceptive
medications
will
significantly
improve
access
to
care
to
women
who
want
to
prevent
pregnancy,
along
with
allowing
pharmacists
to
have
discussions
with
patients
about
safe
sex
practices.
J
Sb
190
will
help
reduce
unintended
pregnancies
and
decrease
the
burden
on
our
health
care
system.
I
also
briefly
wanted
to
touch
upon
insurance
coverage.
There's
so
many
times.
I've
dealt
with
this
personally
as
a
patient
and
as
a
health
care
provider
with
our
health
care
system,
insurance
provider
coverage,
changes
constantly
and
medications
are
often
not
covered,
which
leads
to
a
back
and
forth
with
the
provider
in
the
pharmacy
trying
to
figure
out
which
medication
will
be
covered
by
the
insurance.
J
This
could
delay
access
by
weeks
for
the
patient
and
cause
unnecessary
burden
to
patients
and
providers.
If
the
entire
process
is
done
at
the
pharmacy,
it's
easy
for
the
pharmacist
to
determine
which
prescription
will
be
covered
and
it
can
be
dispensed
then,
and
there
for
the
patient.
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
speaking.
L
G
L-I-D-M-A-C-M-E-N-A-M-I-N
with
the
retail
association
in
nevada,
I'm
happy
and
proud
to
come
to
the
table
to
support
senator
camazero's
bill
sb
190
today.
We
truly
believe
that
this
is
a
timely
and
equitable
access
to
hormonal
contraceptives
to
women,
and
we
believe
that
this
will
be
a
route
for
that
for
everyone.
This
also
allows
for
the
source
and
removing
barriers
that
may
exist
to
obtaining
hormonal
contraceptives.
G
J
G
G
L
J
We
engage
in
policy
research
that
supports
free
markets
and
limited,
but
effective
government,
and
I
lead
r
street's
research
on
state
policies
for
birth
control
access,
but
the
focus
on
sensible
deregulatory
efforts
like
pharmacist
prescribed
birth
control.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
give
some
brief
comments
on
this.
So
for
over
a
decade,
the
pharmacy
access
model,
as
it's
often
called,
has
been
studied
for
its
safety
and
ability
to
increase
birth
control
access.
J
Women
who
see
pharmacists
for
birth
control
are
shown
to
be
more
likely
to
be
uninsured
and
younger
than
women
who
see
a
doctor
which
suggests
that
obtaining
regular
doctor's
visits
just
to
maintain
their
birth
control
prescription
is
too
high
a
barrier
for
many
further.
As
many
have
noted,
many
of
the
leading
medical
associations
across
the
country
have
supported
increased
access
to
birth
control
by
deregulating
it,
and
this
is
due
to
birth
control,
time
tested
safety
and
efficacy.
J
Finally,
the
pharmacy
access
model
saves
taxpayer
funds
and
reduces
burdens
on
families.
So
currently,
52
percent
of
pregnancies
in
nevada
are
unplanned,
which
is
costly
to
families,
taxpayers
and
the
government.
For
example,
in
2010
alone,
nevada
taxpayers
shouldered
over
37
million
in
unintended
pregnancy-related
costs
under
public
health
insurance
programs,
while
the
federal
government
spent
over
65
million
on
these
costs
in
nevada.
J
However,
an
oregon-based
study
found
that
pharmacists
prescribed
birth
control
led
to
a
reduction
in
unintended
pregnancies,
as
well
as
a
1.6
million
dollar
savings
to
the
state's
medicaid
program
within
just
the
first
two
years
of
implementation.
If
nevada
implements
a
similar
model,
as
this
bill
would
do,
it
will
see
similar
returns.
J
L
L
J
Marcus
lopez,
americans
for
prosperity,
nevada,
m-a-r-c-o-s,
l-o-p-e-z.
A
lot
of
previous
callers
made
a
lot
of
the
same
points
that
we.
B
B
And
we
are
proud
to
support
sb190.
L
J
J
I
just
wanted
to
testify
actually
from
my
own
personal
opinion
on
this
bill
and
my
organization,
but
recently
I
had
a
situation
where
I
couldn't
get
my
birth
control,
because
my
prescription
ran
out
because
I
cycled
my
pills
and
I
was
having
issues
accessing
it,
because
my
doctor's
appointment
hadn't
come
up
yet.
J
So
I
see
my
doctor
yearly
because
I
too,
like
senator,
like
assemblywoman
carlton,
have
medical
issues
that
requires
me
to
see
a
doctor
yearly,
but
I
cycle
my
pills
for
medical
reasons,
because
I
get
horrific
migraines
and
I
have
to
have
the
birth
controls.
Birth
control
to
mitigate
the
hormonal
swings
that
I
would
normally
have.
J
So
if
I
would
have
been
able
to
walk
into
my
pharmacy
and
actually
get
my
pills,
I
wouldn't
have
gone
through
an
entire
cycle
without
having
my
pills
and
getting
a
migraine
and
going
through
all
the
the
hassle.
It
becomes
to
get
my
pills,
and
so
this
is
an
important
bill
for
women
like
me,
who
use
birth
control
not
only
for
birth
control,
but
also
for
medical
reasons
and
need
easy
access
for
the
pills
and
could
have
easily
walked
into
a
pharmacist
and
received
those
pills.
J
A
L
F
Hello,
my
name
is
ken
conkey
k-e-n-k-u-n-k-e
and
today,
I'm
here
representing
the
nevada
pharmacy
alliance.
We
are
an
organization
that
represents
pharmacy
professionals
that
work
all
over
our
state
and
we
are
excited
to
expand
our
ability
to
take
care
of
patients
and
I'm
here
to
show
our
support
of
senate
bill
190..
F
A
lot
of
the
points
that
I
was
going
to
make
have
already
been
made
so
I'll
just
say:
ditto
the
states
that
do
have
these
protocols
in
place.
They
are
showing
that
they're
very
effective
and
safe,
and
I
know
that
our
board
of
pharmacy
can
put
those
same
precautions
in
in
place
here
in
nevada.
So
in
that,
in
that,
I
would
ask
you
to
support
senate
bill
190.
Thank
you.
A
L
L
J
J
The
nevada
aap
has
no
issue
with
pharmacists,
dispensing
contraceptives,
but
it's
important
for
young
adults
and
adolescents
seeking
birth
control
in
nevada
to
know
that
the
american
academy
of
pediatrics
recommends
larks
long-acting,
reversible
contraceptives
over
short-acting
contraceptives
like
the
pill
for
patients.
Larks
are
highly
effective,
long-term
and
have
minimal
side
effects.
J
A
Position
at
this
time,
okay,
thank
you,
and
at
this
time
I
do
want
to
check
zoom.
Is
there
dwayne
young
on
zoom
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position?
If
so,
just
please
turn
your
camera
on,
so
that
we
can
see
you
there.
You
are
mr
young
welcome.
M
Good
afternoon,
chair
hargy
and
the
committee
just
here
from
nevada
medicaid
to
say
that
this
is
a
budget
neutral
initiative,
as
this
would
just
shift
over
recipients
and
providers
and
create
more
access
to
those
on
medicaid.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
young.
Okay,
with
that
majority
leader
perfect,
I
will
now
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
190.
A
A
N
N
N
Debtors
and
bypark
areas
were
twice
as
likely
to
have
their
bankruptcy
case,
dismissed
as
debtors
living
in
majority
white
areas,
borrows
of
borrowers
of
color
were
called
nearly
twice
as
often
than
white
borrows.
Despite
similar
rates
of
default
and
late
payments,
a
study
of
collection
actions
in
three
major
cities
found
that
the
risk
of
judgment
is
twice
as
high
in
majority
black
census
tracts
and
borrows
and
majority
black
census
tracts
in
one
city
were
also
20
percent,
more
likely
to
have
their
wages
garnished
after
judgment.
N
N
President
biden
has
said,
an
economic
recovery
agenda
built
on
advancing
racial
equity.
We
too
must
participate
by
enacting
legislation
that
removes
any
form
of
bias.
That
is
why
senate
bill
186
is
important
because
it
prohibits
a
collection
agency
from
collecting
certain
debts
owed
to
persons
affiliated
with
or
related
to
an
owner
of.
The
collection
agency.
N
Here
are
a
few
highlights.
Madames
here
section
one
requires
each
collection
agency
to
file
annually
a
report
with
the
commissioner
of
division
of
financial
institutions
of
the
department
of
business
and
industry
that
contains
certain
information
pertaining
to
the
debt
collected
for
homeowners
associations
during
the
immediate
preceding
year.
N
Specifically,
the
report
must
include
the
number
of
cases
where
a
collection
agency
collected
a
debt
for
a
homeowners
association
must
include
the
name
of
the
homeowners
association
and
the
amount
of
money
collected
for
each
homeowners
association
that
the
collection
agency
collected
a
debt
for
must
include
the
total
amount
of
money
collected
for
each
homeowners
association,
the
zip
code
of
each
debtor,
from
whom
the
collection
agency
collected
a
debt.
The
manager
of
the
collection
agency
must
provide
a
signed
statement.
N
One
of
the
things
that
we
do
know
and
the
wall
street
journal
had
a
an
article
on
this
a
couple
of
months
back
and
that
is
during
the
pandemic.
One
of
the
things
that
began
to
surge
was
technology
and
innovation
and
disruptive
technology
increased
about
25
percent
during
the
pandemic,
and
so
some
of
those
who
were
recalled
for
their
jobs,
don't
even
know
if
they're
going
to
have
a
job
a
year
from
now
because
of
the
technology
technological
advances.
N
It
really
is
designed
to
make
sure
that
these
persons,
once
they
have
a
home,
they
don't
lose
a
home,
and
I
know
for
some
people.
You
know
it's
a
matter
of
well,
it
may
be
only
two
bedrooms:
one
bath
the
carpet
may
need
to
be
replaced
and
there's
some
problems
with
the
roof,
but
for
the
people
who
struggled
and
worked
overtime
and
even
borrowed
money
just
to
hang
in
there
during
the
covet
19
process.
A
One
senator
spearman,
if
you
would
hold
for
one
second,
we
we
just,
we
literally
just
got
a
copy
of
the
amendment.
It
was
never
sent
to
my
committee
manager
or
me
to
upload
for
the
committee.
I
checked
with
my
policy
on
the
list
and
she
was
able
to
get
a
copy,
so
we're
going
to
distribute
the
amendment
and
make
sure
the
committee
has
it
before
we
go
through
it.
Thank
you
all.
N
A
A
A
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
again
I'll
apologize.
I
was
sure
that
we
got
that
to
you
all
about
nine
this
morning.
Okay,
no
problem
well
problem,
but
I
apologize
so
number
one
provide
a
moratorium
on
hoas,
moving
forward
with
foreclosures
until
1
january
2022
and
increasing
assessments
until
january
1,
2022,
and
this
provision
applies
to
all
hoas,
so
that
units
unit
owners
have
a
chance
to
recover
from
the
economic
hardships
caused
by
the
pandemics.
N
The
one
thing
that
did
not
happen
during
the
pandemic
was
to
have
a
moratorium
on
foreclosures
for
people
who
could
not
pay
their
hoa
dues,
and
so
you
did
have
homes
that
were
foreclosed
on
during
the
pandemic
and
many
of
the
people
that
were
foreclosed.
It
was
a
direct
result.
The
fact
that
they
had
either
lost
their
job,
ours
had
been
decreased
or
other
calamities
related
to
covert.
19.
N
number
two
provides
that
hoa
offers.
Excuse
me
the
hoa
must
offer
unit
only
a
payment
plan,
and
that's
because
very
few
people
that
I
know
of
if
you're
going
to
have
a
difficult
time
being
able
to
survive
financially
with
a
400
unexpected
bill
in
during
a
month,
it's
going
to
be
almost
impossible
for
you
to
survive.
N
Any
person
who
was
involved
in
the
foreclosure
process
means
any
person
who
exercised
discretion
and
or
any
decision
making
related
to
the
foreclosure
of
a
lien
and
in
person
employed
by
such
a
process
managerial
committee
members.
I
think
that
this
is
extremely
important,
because
not
only
is
it
a
transparency
issue,
but
for
many
homeowners
many
times
they
have
no
idea
right
now.
N
They
have
no
idea
that
the
collection
agency
that,
where
the
fees
are
being
referred
to
and
the
fees
are
mounting
up,
also
has
an
opportunity
once
it's
foreclosed
and
once
it
goes
to
auction,
they
have
an
opportunity
to
purchase
that
home
and
for
me
I
just
think
that
there's
something
wrong
with
that,
because
if
you're
involved
in
someone
losing
their
home,
I
don't
think
that
you
should
be
able
to
turn
around
and
profit
from
that
home
and
I've
been
told
that
right
now.
That
is
the
case.
N
So
let's
say
if
that
home
the
market
value
is
500
000,
and
we
also
know
that,
because
there
is
a
limited
supply
that
sometimes
homes
are
going
for
10
or
15
percent
more
than
what
the
market
value
is
someone
purchasing
a
home,
and
they
were
part
of
the
foreclosure
process,
could
purchase
that
home.
For
a
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars,
it
was
worth
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
that's
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
instant
equity.
N
N
N
This
provision
would
include
beginning
january
1st
2022,
each
hoa
and
common
interest
community
that
has
100
more
units,
must
establish
a
website
or
portal
and
post
on
the
website
or
portal
anything
related
to
the
hoa,
including
without
limitation,
recent
copy
of
the
ccr's,
the
hoa
bylaws
and
rules
and
any
other
documents
required
by
regulation
to
be
posted.
Beginning
january
1
2023.
N
These
hoas
must
establish
on
the
website
a
portal,
the
ability
for
unit
owners
to
pay
their
assessments
online.
I
don't
know
about
you,
but
I
rarely
do
anything
in
terms
of
payment.
I
pay
my
mortgage,
my
car
payment,
my
insurance,
everything
I
do
as
on
as
online,
and
so
for
people
who
are
homeowners,
especially
during
covert
and
even
after
in
the
aftermath
of
covent.
I
think
that
it's
important
that
it's
a
good
public
service
and
it's
good.
N
N
I
think
those
are
very
reasonable
requests
and
again
it
provides
a
level
of
transparency
that
homeowners,
specifically
homeowners
and
bipolar
communities,
do
not
have
right
now.
Madam
chair,
I
also
want
to
say
you
heard
me
at
the
beginning
of
my
testimony:
speak
of
systemic
racism
and
systemic
racist
structures.
N
N
L
Thank
you
senator
spearman,
good
morning,
chair
or
good
afternoon,
I've
been
on
here
a
while
chair,
hadiki
and
members
of
the
commerce
and
labor
committee.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
jerry
burton
k-e-r-I
b-u-r-t-o-n.
L
I
am
the
president
of
the
nevada
chapter
of
the
nationalization
for
women
and
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
sv
186
representing
our
nevada.
Now,
members
and
nevada
families
are
struggling
to
recover
from
the
economic
collapse
during
the
pandemic
and
in
particular
in
our
bipod
communities,
as
over
two
million
women
have
dropped
out
of
the
workforce
since
february
of
2020
and
as
we
know,
nevada
was
hit
the
hardest
in
nevada.
L
The
types
of
jobs
lost
have
been
predominantly
women,
women
of
color
and
single
women
who
are
head
of
households
and
community
color
communities
of
color
and
and
women
particularly
have
experienced
higher
hoa
foreclosure
rates.
Because
of
this,
this
bill
helps
find
ways
to
give
homeowners
a
chance
to
recover
from
economic
hardship
in
many
cases
through
no
fault
of
their
own
because
of
the
job
loss
and
the
pandemic
and
where
they
may
not
even
be
able
to
pay
the
hoa
fees.
L
K
Hello,
thank
you
chair,
heidi
and
committee
members.
Again.
This
is
nick
chipak
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
We
want
to
thank
the
senator
for
bringing
this
bill
to
our
attention
and
really
allowing
us
to
be
part
of
the
conversation
this
session
in
a
variety
of
committees.
K
This
body
has
heard
legislation
that
deals
with
fines
and
fees,
and
what
we
have
found
is
is
really
two
things
are
consistent:
whether
it's
with
traffic
tickets
driver's
license
suspension.
The
towing
of
motor
vehicles
is
that
one.
We
lack
a
lot
of
good
data
here
in
the
state,
so
what
this
bill
will
do
with
data
collection?
What
will.
J
K
Both
the
legislature
and
community
organizations
such
as
ours
and
those
that
work
with
people
who
have
experiencing
financial
hardship,
it
will
allow
us
to
really
find
out
if
there
is
this
type
of
predatory
hoa
policies
in
some
areas,
and
it
it'll
help
us
understand
that,
even
if
there's
not
predatory
policies
who
is
being
the
most
effective.
K
What
we
know
from
previous
research
is
that
communities
of
color
often
get
hit
more
often
and
harder
with
hoa
fees,
and
we've
seen
hoa
fees
start
as
low
as
700
and
and
rise
to
a
level,
because
the
individual
who
owns
a
home
is
unable
to
pay,
especially
during
financial
hardships
such
as
the
pandemic,
where
those
hoa
fees
get
so
high
that
then
they
have
a
lien
put
on
their
house
and
they
can
lose
their
home.
K
Their
home
is
for
closed
on,
and
we
really
need
to
have
a
better
understanding
in
nevada
of
how
this
practice
is
working
who's
involved
and
who
is
being
the
most
affected
by
it.
So
that's
one
part
that
the
aclu
is
is
excited
for
with
this
piece
of
legislation.
We
really
think
that
this
data
will
help
us
and
help
you
all
create
better
policy.
K
Secondly,
the
moratorium
on
hwa
ford
closures
is
really
a
piece
that
we
feel
is
a
gap
that
was
missed
during
a
lot
of
the
good
protections
that
were
given
during
the
pandemic,
whether
those
were
protections
for
renters
or
protections
for
homeowners.
We
think
there
was
an
unintentional
miss.
Probably
here
and
now
we
have
individuals
who,
as
has
been
previously
mentioned,
have
lost
their
jobs
during
the
pandemic
and
and
they
may
have
these
hoa
fee
fees.
Building
up
these
are
often
easy
fixes.
K
Once
people
have
the
time
and
the
money
and
bikes
creating
a
moratorium
just
to
the
end
of
the
year,
we
think
we
can
save
a
lot
of
people
in
their
homes
and
and
lastly,
what
else
one
thing
we'll
say
is
that
generational
wealth
is
built
through
home
ownership.
K
So
we
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
common
sense
in
this
bill.
We,
including
the
amendment-
and
we
really
urge
you
to
support
it,
because
we
can't
measure
what's
happening.
We
really
can't
address
it
properly
and
so.
N
N
N
Thank
you.
That's
that's
all
that
I
have
for
right
now
and
can
stand
for
some
questions.
A
H
Thank
you,
chair,
assemblywoman,
kasama,
district
2..
Thank
you,
senator
spearman,
so
my
question:
I'm
I'm
just
kind
of
going
through
this
amendment
as
well
that
we
we've
just
received
here
where
you've
got
a
moratorium
on
I'm
looking
at
the
section,
one:
a
moratorium
on
foreclosures
through
january
1
and
restricting
the
fees
so
so
the
problem
is,
we
went
through
this
in
in
2006
we
had
hoas
that
were
devastated
by
non-collection
of
fees
and
they're.
You
know
they
they
they
were
losing.
H
They
couldn't
keep
up
the
communities,
they're
they're
tasked
with
collecting
money
to
keep
up
the
communities,
and
we
saw
the
devastating
effects
of
that
it
took
them
many
years
to
recover
from
that
as
well,
along
with
everybody
else,
my
concern
is
here
again
we're
putting
a
burden
on
private
properties,
and
I
understand
the
issues
on
individuals
if
they've
lost
their
job
or
there's
hardships,
but
we've
also
had
a
lot
of
federal
and
state
assistance
that
has
come.
That
has
been
assisting
people.
H
We
have
unemployment,
we
have
federal
programs
for
bills
for
for
money,
support
for
individuals.
So
I
don't
see
that
this
is
a
good
move,
because
again
the
burden
is
on
on
the
hoa
just
like
we
had
with
housing
providers.
The
burden
was
on
them.
If
you
need
something,
then
again
you
can't
put
it
on
private
people.
H
Then
we
have
the
government
step
in
and
provide
subsidies
to
people,
but
not
on
the
backs
of
of
the
of
the
of
the
private
individuals
and
private
companies,
and
so
I
have
a
lot
of
trouble
with
this
bill
and
the
foreclosures
you
say
that's
six
or
seven
months.
The
foreclosure
process
in
this
in
this
state
now
takes
over
seven
months.
H
So
we're
going
to
be
there
next
year
anyway,
and
I
don't
think
with
the
you
know,
what's
going
to
happen
with
our
court
systems
they're
going
to
be
overloaded,
I
don't
see
any
of
this
happening
rapidly
anyway
and
to
put
coveted
regulation
into
the
statutes
when
we're
looking
at
opening
up
100
in
just
a
month
or
two
here
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
the
assemblywoman,
so
I
think
that
is
a
good
observation
that
sometimes
the
government
government
is
able
to
step
in,
but
I
also
think
it's
a
good
observation
to
note
that
there
was
a
bill
in
congress
passed
by
the
house
in
may
of
2020,
and
it
never
made
it
out,
and
there
were
people
who
desperately
needed
that
they
desperately
needed
the
additional
money
for
unemployment,
there's
additional
money
for
health
or
or
for
departments
of
health.
N
N
Some
of
them
had
cars
towed
because
they
had
registration
that
was
outdated
while
dmv
had
a
banner
on
their
website
saying
that
all
of
these
things,
registration
license,
etc.
There
was
going
to
be
a
moratorium
on
that,
so
you
have
people
in
our
community,
our
neighbors
people.
We
go
to
church
with
people
that
we
shop
with
you
have
them
who
are
struggling.
N
They
had
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
balance
their
budgets,
basically
on
nothing
and
a
couple
of
the
things
that
I
know
that
hoas
do
is
they're
supposed
to
keep
the
grass
cut
in
common
areas
and
make
sure
that
the
trash
is
picked
up
if
you
live
in
a
gated
community
supposed
to
make
sure
that
the
gate
works
and
the
community
that
I
live
in,
the
gate
is
inoperable
at
least
three
or
four
times
a
month.
So
what
I'm
suggesting
here
is
that
number
one
a
moratorium
on
the
foreclosure?
N
N
There
are
still
people
who
are
suffering,
there's
still
people
who
don't
have
a
job,
there's
still
people
who
who
have
I,
if
even
if
they've,
been
called
back
to
work,
their
wages
have
not
gone
to
the
same
level
that
they
were
before
the
pandemic,
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
look
at
the
gwen
report
on
the
impact
of
covert
19.,
it's
people
of
color
who
are
really
bearing
the
burden
of
the
vicissitudes
of
covet
19,
in
that
whatever
financial
obligations
they
have
or
have
had,
those
have
been
ongoing,
whatever
assistance
that
they
have
gotten
from
either
state
or
federal
for
many
of
them
that
I've
talked
to
especially
those
in
my
district.
N
This
is
this
is
not
correct
english,
but
it
ain't
been
enough.
So
all
I'm
saying
I'm
gonna
tell
them
to
stop.
I'm
saying
I'm
saying,
put
put
a
pause,
push
the
bars
button
until
until
january,
with
respect
to
the
fees
put
a
pause
until
january,
give
people
an
opportunity
to
save
their
homes,
give
people
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
A
D
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
the
vice
chair
of
vice
chair
carlton,
yes,
ma'am,
it
stays
in
there
and
the
relationship
to
that
is
the
fact
that
there
are
it's.
It's
the
consequinity,
it's
the
number
of
it's
the
it's.
The
people
who
many
times
have
a
direct
relationship
with
tow
car
companies,
and
you
might
remember
a
bill
that
came
through
and
that's
fine.
N
A
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
senator
for
bringing
the
bill.
I
had
a
question.
It
would
be
well
in
the
amendment
it's
somewhat
of
the
same
language.
It
was
in
the
original
bill
in
the
section
six.
The
third
point
in
that,
where
for
data
collection,
you're
saying
the
amount
of
each
such
past
due
obligation,
it's
kind
of
the
same
language
that
you
have
in
the
original.
P
My
question
is:
if
you're
looking
at
like
the
disparate
impact
and
you're
gathering
data,
what
was
the
rationale
for
asking
just
the
amount
of
the
of
the
obligation
or
the
total
amount
of
the
debt
and
not
separating
those
into
assessments
and
fines
and
fees,
because
I
know
in
most
experience
it's
those
fines
and
fees
that
that
end
up
causing
more
foreclosure
than
just
the
assessment.
So
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
a
reason
why
you
didn't
have
those
separated.
N
Thank
you
manager
through
you
to
some
woman
constantine
here,
so
senator
you
can
go
directly
to
the
members.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
the
rationale
is
at
first.
The
objection
by
some
in
opposition
was
it's
too
much
data
so
to
make
sure
that
it
is
consolidated
to
a
workable
or
manageable
amount.
This
is
why
we
have
that
in
there
we
can
certainly
go
back
and
make
that
determination
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
most
people
when
they
keep
their
records.
N
N
If
you
ask
me
what
was
the
total
of
your
household
expenses
for
a
month?
I
could
go
back
and
tell
you
if
we're
going
to
disaggregate
the
information
most
people
already
have
it,
but
for
the
sake
of
making
sure
that
it
didn't
seem
onerous
to
some
people.
We
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
this
information
was
gathered
and-
and
I
would
also
say-
and
I
was
looking
for
the
page-
and
I
can't
remember
the
page-
is
in
the
glenn
center.
A
N
N
Yes,
ma'am,
I
I
sent,
I
sent
a
link
and
I
can
make
sure
we
you
get
the
you
get
the
actual
report
it's
online,
but
I
sent
the
link
to
the
report
as
I
got
it
offline,
but
I
can
make
sure
you
get
that
too.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you
senator.
C
So
I
just
had
a
little
question
on
the
conceptual
amendment
on
number
three,
where
you
talk
about
in
a
foreclosure,
you
know
who
would
not
be
able
to
purchase
a
home
so,
and
I
thought
I
think
you
were
kind
of
going
to
get
into
this
a
little
bit,
but
why
it
seems
to
go
quite
far
into
who
would
not
be
allowed
to
purchase
a
home,
and
so
just
if
your
thought
process
with
that
and
then
also,
why
were
you
looking
at
putting
into
statute
who
could
buy
a
home
in
this
way.
N
N
N
N
If
the
process
that
was
used
to
foreclose
on
their
homes,
they
have
no
idea
whether
or
not
it
was
fair
to
them
doing
it
like
this
puts
a
level
of
fairness
and
transparency
in
there
for
the
homeowner,
you
can
buy
property,
you
can
go
to
auction
and
buy
anything.
You
want
call
a
house
kind
of
you
can
do
that.
The
thing
that
we're
saying
here
is
that,
if
you've
been
a
part
of
the
foreclosure
process,
no
no
find
another
way
to
buy
a
house.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
my
colleague
had
brought
up
a
point
and-
and
I
just
wanted
to
revisit
it
just
for
clarity's
sake,
a
a
good
chunk
of
the
presentation
has
been
about
homeownership
and
the
impact
on
communities
of
color,
particularly
during
during
you
know,
pandemic,
but
not
just
during
pandemic,
but
it
seemed
to
be
less
tied
to
the.
I
just
wanted
more
connection
with
the
toll
section
of
it,
because
that's
less
to
do
with,
with
with
a
lot
of
that
and
and
don't
get
me
wrong.
M
I
I
don't
deny
there
are
issues
with
respect
to
towing
practices
across
the
board,
but
it
seems
to
be
separate
from
a
homeownership
issue.
So
so
could
you
reel
that
in
for
me.
N
It's
a
thank
you,
speaker
fryerson,
so
the
the
toe
piece
was
actually
placed
in
there
as
a
result
of
some
of
not
just
my
constituents,
and
sometimes
I
don't
know
if
they
really
are
not,
unless
I
ask
them
for
the
zip
code.
N
N
N
The
apartment,
complex
manager
has
called
and
said
these
vehicles
to
come
and
look
at
this
and
see
which
ones
are
out
of
date,
and
so
that's
why
it's
in
there,
because
it
is
also
a
matter
of
transparency,
and
if
you
look
at
what
assemblyman
miller
brought,
there
is
a
close
connection
with
what
he
is
saying
in
his
bill
and
what
is
being
said
in
this
in
this
bill,
so
to
to
leave,
to
leave
the
strip
and
go
to
apartments
complexes,
and
those
two
are
primarily
occupied
by
people
of
color
and
and
to
have
that
have
that
level
of
financial
burden
placed
on
you
and
so
for
some
of
them
they
couldn't
make
the
car
payment.
N
M
If
I
may
follow
up,
you
did
just
so
I'm
clear
with
respect
to
the
total
aspect
of
the
bill.
It
still
requires
that
there
be
a
relationship
in
that
relationship,
as
defined
as
within
the
third
degree
of
consanguinity,
yes,
sir,
and
so
that
would
still
be
applicable
to
the
total
activity.
M
Thank
you.
Well,
I
I'm
gonna
look
into
that
because
of
my
own
curiosity
about
the
ability
of
a
tow
company
to
go
on
a
private
property
because
frequently
I
have
a
tag
in
my
glove
box
that
I
forgot
to
put
on
my
car
and
having
been
a
victim
of
a
stolen
car.
I've
also
had
a
car
towed
and
subjected
to
fees
as
a
victim
which
kind
of
caught
me
off
guard.
This
is
different.
M
I
mean
because
I
think
that
the
bulk
of
what
we're
talking
about
was
homeownership
and
the
pandemic,
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
a
a
a
different
issue.
I
mean
it's
tied,
obviously
with
respect
to
collections,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
different
issue
and
could
open
the
door
to
a
lot
of
other,
I
think
inequities
in
in
in
the
practice
of
toll
yards,
but
I
will
digress
because
I
want
to
look
into
that
myself.
N
A
Remember
seeing
no
further
questions,
I'm
going
to
move
into
testimony
portion
of
the
bill
hearing.
I
would
like
to
remind
everyone
that
I'm
going
to
take
20
minutes
in
support
20
minutes
in
opposition
and
20
minutes
in
neutral,
seeing
no
one
here
in
carson
city
to
testify
in
support,
I
will
go
ahead
and
check
zoom.
Is
there
anyone
on
zoom
wishing
to
testify
in
support,
if
you
would
just
please
turn
your
camera
on
and
raise
your
hand
so
that
I
could
see
you.
L
L
J
J
L
B
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
peter
aldous
p-e-t-e-r-a-l-d-o-u-s,
I'm
a
staff
attorney
at
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada.
I'm
calling
in
support
of
sb-186
I've
represented
many
nevada
homeowners,
as
they
tried
to
resolve
fines
and
assessments
with
their
homeowners
associations,
and
many
of
those
homeowners
were
very
frustrated
because
they
could
not
work
directly
with
the
hoa
boards.
This
is
because
their
files
were
faced
with
collection
agencies
and
too
many
of
those
collection
agencies
place
their
own
profits
over
a
prompt
and
a
phys
efficient
resolution
of
the
issue.
B
The
inherent
conflict
of
interest
that
arises
when
a
community
manager
is
financially
related
to
a
collection
agency
is
unacceptable.
Community
managers
should
be
focusing
on
helping
homeowners,
not
extracting
money
from
them.
Thank
you.
Sharon
committee
members,
for
taking
the
time
to
address
this
important
issue.
L
B
B
People
in
their
homes
sd-186
would
help
study
conflicts
of
interest
between
hoas
debt
collection
agencies
that
lead
to
abuses
of
power
and
undue
harassment,
hardship
for
bypass
communities.
This
bill
is
about
protecting
the
homeowner
from
predatory
behavior.
That
lessens
the
ability
for
certain
communities
to
access
home
ownership.
We
thank
senator
spearman
for
bringing
this
forward
and
we
ask
you
to
support
this
bill.
Thank
you.
A
L
A
L
L
F
Hi
good
afternoon
this
is
garrett,
gordon
g-a-r-r-e-t-t,
last
name,
gordon
g-o-r-d-o-n,
I'm
with
the
law
firm
of
lewis,
rocca
and
today,
representing
the
community
association
institute,
which
is
the
trade
group
that
speaks
for
the
3
000
homeowners
associations
in
our
state.
I
I
signed
in
as
neutral
in
that
the
bill
as
written
as
is
without
the
amendment
we
are
neutral
on.
However,
with
this
proposed
amendment,
we
do
have
some
concerns.
F
We
have
passed
those
concerns
on
to
senator
spearman
and
always
appreciate
the
time
and
work
that
she
does
and
allowing
us
to
have
a
seat
at
the
table
of
the
pro
of
the
proposed
six
conceptual
changes.
I'll
summarize
two
of
them
we
are
in
support
of
two
of
them.
I
think
we
can
get
to
neutral
on
with
some
changes,
but
a
few
of
them.
We
certainly
have
big
concerns.
F
Regarding
number
one,
we
respectfully
oppose
a
moratorium
on
hoas,
given
hoas
or
non-profit
entities
that
have
zero
balance
budget
each
year.
If
an
hoa
needs
to
increase
assessments
for
the
purpose
of
paying
costs
of
services,
insurance,
water
power,
gait
maintenance
pool
maintenance.
This
would
stop
an
hoa
from
making
needed
increases
and
put
the
hoa
in
a
position
of
having
to
eliminate
services.
In
addition,
if
you
are
capping
or
putting
a
moratorium
on
assessments,
it
now
doesn't
allow
an
association
from
say
entering
into
payment
plans
with
homeowners.
F
I
think
that's
very
important
to
hear
I
heard
you
heard
some
testimony
today
about
you
know
folks
who
have
gotten
behind
and
had
some
trouble,
and
there
is
already
in
statute.
We
worked
very
hard.
I
know
many
of
you
on
this
committee.
Remember
was
senate
bill
306
with
now
attorney
general
aaron
ford
regarding
increased
payment
plans
regarding
increased
notice
regarding
redemption
opportunities
for
homeowners
to
redeem
their
homes.
F
F
Some
of
these
concerns
were
mentioned,
and
so
we
spent
hours
upon
hours
researching
what
happened
in
the
last
eight
months.
In
regards
to
hoa
foreclosures,
I
can
tell
you
in
clark
county
of
the
approximately
900
000
hoa
units
in
clark
county
again,
that's
900
000.
there
were.
There
were
33
total
foreclosures
in
the
last
eight
months
and
30
different
hoas,
so
there
was
no
proliferation
of
hoas
foreclosing,
no
particular
hoa.
We
were
also
asked
to
look
into
the
zip
codes.
It's
clear
from
every
zip
code
in
clark
county.
There
is
between
zero
and
four
foreclosures.
F
So
again,
I'd
like
to
sit
down
with
senator
spearman.
Maybe
hopefully
we
can
come
to
a
compromise
on
some
of
these
conceptual
amendments.
But
again,
if
the
committee
just
processed
the
bill,
as
is,
we
are
neutral
on
that.
Thank
you
for
the
time
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
the
sponsor.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
A
Okay,
thank
you
senator
spearman.
Would
you
like
to
give
closing
remarks.
N
Yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
respond
to
mr
gordon's
concerns
and
again
when
the
bill
that
he
referred
to
about
hoa
when
that
was
worked
on,
we
were
not
in
a
pandemic
or
just
a
few
months
outside
of
the
pandemic.
N
This
is
saying
until
january
2022,
this
is
saying,
have
compassion
on
the
people
who
have
had
to
tighten
their
belt
homeowners
who've
had
to
tighten
their
belts.
I
don't
I
don't
begrudge
you
know
hoas.
I
I've
bought
and
sold
four
houses
since
I've
been
living
in
nevada
and
every
one
of
them
had
a
hoa.
N
I
pay
my
dues.
What
I'm
saying
is
that
there
are
some
people
who
have
not
been
able
to
do
that,
and
all
they
have
to
do
is
push
the
pause
button,
push
the
pause
button,
maintaining
the
common
areas.
Okay,
I
don't
know
I
mean,
I
honestly
don't
know
if
that's
two
or
three
thousand
dollars
a
month.
I
don't
know
and,
like
I
said
in
my
hoa
and
we've
been
we've
been
telling
in
my
community
we've
been
telling
the
hoa.
I
don't
know
how
long
the
gate
is
broken.
N
N
I'm
simply
saying:
please
have
compassion
on
ordinary
people
who
are
struggling
and
trying
to
make
it
trying
to
make
it.
I
don't
I
don't
know
how
else.
To
put
this,
I
would
say
this:
if
you
go
to
the
gwen
report,
the
gwen
report
acknowledges
that
there
is
a
an
imbalance
of
wealth
within
bipolar
communities
and
in
some
instances
it
is
as
much
as
40
percent
difference.
N
40
difference
you,
don't
you
don't
you
don't
have
to
stop
the
process,
I'm
simply
saying
push
the
pause
button
in
judaism.
They
call
it
tikkun
alam
in
christianity,
chikunalam
means
to
repair
the
world,
and
that
is
looking
at
things.
That
may
not
be
quite
where
quote
god
would
want
them
to
be.
You
do
all
that
you
can
to
make
sure
that
they
get
there.
N
N
What
you
have
done
to
the
least
of
these
you
have
done
it
unto
me
we're
talking
about
helping
the
least
of
these.
The
least
of
these.
Many
of
them
have
had
no
money
or
very
little
money
to
even
feed
their
families.
So
again
I
say
anyone
on
the
phone,
mr
garrett
and
we've
had
this
conversation
before.
I
am
not
saying
to
stop
the
process
altogether.
I'm
simply
saying
what
you
have
done
to
the
least
of
these.
A
A
A
A
I
I
Almost
every
session
the
legislature
has
contemplated
and
enacted
legislation
involving
malt
beverages
and
distilleries,
and
in
the
past
decade
nevada's
brewery
and
distillery
businesses
have
grown
each
year.
According
to
the
american
distilling
institute
craft
distilling
grew
into
almost
a
1.8
billion
dollar
business
in
2019,
directly
employing
thousands
and
indirectly
supporting
thousands
more
in
related
businesses
at
retail.
These
sales
were
reportedly
worth
nearly
3.2
billion.
I
However,
individual
states
control
the
sale
of
alcohol
within
the
state
distribution
of
alcohol
within
the
state
importation
of
alcohol
within
the
state
and
statutes
regarding
to
who
can
possess
alcohol
within
a
state.
In
turn,
state
laws
often
assign
different
roles
and
responsibilities
to
local
jurisdictions.
Regarding
the
above
issues,
accordingly
senate
bill
307
contained
several
provisions
addressing
each
of
the
above
issues,
making
various
changes
to
the
regulation
of
brew
pubs,
craft
distilleries
suppliers
and
wholesalers
chair
hatagi.
I
At
this
time,
I
would
like
to
turn
the
presentation
over
to
alfredo
alonso
principal
of
louis
roca,
rother
rothburg,
gerber
christie
llp,
who
will
further
discuss
the
bill
and
chair.
I
will
stay
as
long
as
I
can.
I
have
a
meeting
that
starts
at
3
30
and
I
know
many
of
us
in
this
room
have
to
be
at
that
same
meeting,
but
we
also
have
people
that
are
doing
bills.
So,
if
you
don't
mind
when
I'm
ready,
I
will
excuse
myself.
O
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
alfredo
alonso
today
with
the
law
firm
of
louis
rocha
on
behalf
of
the
nevada,
beer
hall,
sailors,
association
and
southern
glacier
wine
and
spirits,
and
what
what
you
have
before
you
in
sb
307
is
an
attempt
to.
There
are
basically
three
parts
to
this.
There
were
many
issues
that
were
having
they
were
occurring
within
the
marketplace,
our
discussions
with
the
the
tax
department
and
how
to
fix
some
of
those
you
will.
O
You
will
notice,
in
the
latter
half
of
the
bill
where
we
deal
with
the
gray
market
issue
in
section
six,
that
that's
an
important
piece,
because
we've
been
here
before
having
the
discussion
about
it,
where
someone
can
purchase
liquor,
be
it
through.
O
You
know,
we've
seen
private
means
from
weddings
from
other
countries,
in
many
cases,
not
a
not
a
an
exclusive
agreement
with
a
supplier,
and
then
they
come
in
and
and
they
try
to
get
a
license
or
a
certificate
of
compliance
as
as
if
they
were
the
exclusive
entity.
We
are
trying
to
fix
that
and
make
sure
that
unless
you
are
a
supplier
or
the
official
importer
for
that
that
product,
you
can't
simply
get
that
license
the
other
issue
that
came
up
with.
O
With
respect
to
section
seven
was
many
years
ago
there
was
discussion
about
how
to
allow
someone
who
goes
to
a
distillery,
and
in
this
case
at
the
time
it
was
a
small
distillery
in
in
south
lake
tahoe,
and
they
wanted
to
bring
back.
I
think
probably
assemblywoman.
O
Carlton
may
even
remember
this
bring
back
a
gallon
of
the
of
these
spirits
and
there
was
no.
There
was
nothing
in
the
statue
that
it
would
allow
for
this.
So
at
the
time
we
put
in
legislature
decided
to
allow
and-
and
the
word
import
was
put
in
in
the
statute-
import
today
means
a
much
different
thing,
so
we
are
changing
that
per
discussions
with.
O
Obviously
the
regulators
that
entering
the
state
with
clarifies
what
this
body
had
intended
at
the
time
and
then
the
last
piece
that
dealt
with
again
more
more
housekeeping
than
anything
else.
If
you
go
back
again
to
section
five,
excuse
me
for
skipping
around,
but
in
section
five-
and
it
is
the
last
the
last
section
there,
it
basically
says-
and
we've
had
some
issues
with
with
local
governments,
not
looking
at
the
statute
and
understanding
what
type
of
license
should
be
issued
to
someone
all
we're
doing.
O
There
is
saying
you
need
to
look
at
these
these
chapters
or
this
chapter,
and
this
and
and
these
sections
nothing
new,
there's
nothing
in
there.
That
is,
that
is
not
out
of
the
ordinary
they.
They
are
simply
being
directed
to
look
at
that
as
well,
and
the
apartment
attacks
felt
that
that
would
be
a
good
way
to
get
them
to
to
issue
the
proper
licenses
in
the
future.
O
And
then
we
go
sort
of
the
to
the
to
the
heart
of
the
bill
for
the
wholesalers,
and
that
is
those
are
sections
one
three
and
excuse
me,
one
and
three
section
one
dealt
with
a
an
issue
that
one
of
our
wholesalers
had
a
couple
of
years
ago.
Now
many
of
you
may
remember
the
katz's
family
and
bonanza
beverage.
O
What
happened
in
that
case
is
a
supplier
refused
to
allow
a
transfer
which
meant
allow
the
purchase
to
go
on,
and
they
they
didn't
say.
Yes,
they
didn't
say
no.
They
just
essentially
sat
on
on
the
the
question
and
it
it
irreparably
hurt
the
this
family
and
their
ability
to
sell
their
business
and
devalue
their
their
their
business
significantly.
And
so
what
we're
doing?
There
is
basically
saying
the
original
language
in
there
was
to
require
30
days
after
extensive
discussions
with
other
suppliers.
O
We
will
be
we,
we
hope
to
have
an
amendment
for
you
here
shortly.
In
fact,
it's
been.
It's
been
worked
on
as
late
as
probably
an
hour
ago,
but
it
would
essentially
allow
for
a
60-day
period
and
the
supplier
would
grant
or
deny
the
request
in
writing
issue.
If
there's
a
if
there's
an
opinion,
they
would
indicate
what
that
opinion
was
whether
it
was
a
yes
or
no
and
then
there's
a
there's.
O
O
And
then
sub
sub
five
of
of
of
section
three
is
the
credit
issue
and
that
has
been
probably
the
most
difficult
of
all
and
that
dealt
with
a
supplier
choosing
to
end
credit
terms
for
wholesalers.
O
We
are
hoping
to
have
something
more
definitive
than
this,
but
right
now
again,
we've
been
trying
to
work
with
the
suppliers
on
this,
and
we
continue
to
do
that.
That
is
our
that
our
goal
that
in
the
next
24
hours
at
most,
we
have
we
hope
to
have
something
more
definitive.
But
currently
what
that
says
is
if
you
are
a
supplier
and
you're
giving
someone
or
requiring
inventory,
you
would
also
have
to
require
or
provide
credit
for
those
days
of
inventory.
O
So
if
you
as
a
policy
say
this,
this
wholesaler
has
to
have
20
days
of
inventory,
15
days
of
inventory,
whatever
it
is.
There
would
be
credit
terms
for
those
days
and
again,
that's
been
probably
the
most
contentious
piece
here
and
and
we'll
continue
to
work
on
that
and
then
the
last
piece
was
on
on
what
we
call
buybacks,
which
is
essentially
a
a
term
used
when
the
supplier
might
owe
the
wholesaler.
O
It
could
be
anything
from
from
a
group
of
beer,
fridges
or
or
an
overage
of
some
sort,
and
some
of
our
folks
have
had
trouble
getting
reimbursed
in
a
timely
manner,
and
that
can
be
a
real
problem.
O
So
I
think
there's,
there's
gonna
be
some
new
language
there
as
well,
that
that
I
think
both
sides
can
live
with
that
will
probably
bring
that
to
to
a
30-day
period
of
some
sort
under
certain
circumstances.
So
again,
the
hope
is
to
have
consensus
on
that
as
quickly
as
possible
and
then
and
then
one
of
the
last
pieces
we've
been
working
with
the
some
of
the
brew
pubs.
O
They
indicated
that
some
are
trying
to
get
more
beer
into
to
sell
in
nevada,
but
they
also
have
obligations
outside
of
the
state
of
nevada,
and
these
are
again
small,
small
brew
pubs.
Probably
on
the
bigger
side
we
we
worked
with
them
to
come
up
with
an
idea
that
essentially
allows
them
to
sell
without
hurting
those
caps
sell.
O
An
additional
20
000
outside
of
the
state,
so
they'd
be
able
to
export
more,
which
leaves
us
with
more
beer
for
our
wholesalers
and
a
public
in
nevada
and
you'll
probably
hear
one
of
the
folks
we've
been
working
with
is
jeremy
at
a
at
a
revision
brewery,
and
I
believe,
he's
he's
going
to
be
on
the
phone
or
on
online
to
discuss
his
situation
as
well.
O
A
B
For
the
record
leaf
reed
from
the
law
firm
of
lewis
and
roca-
I
I
don't
have
anything
to
add
I'm
happy
to
to
ask
questions.
We
didn't
give
a
lot
of
the
background.
Very
briefly.
The
main
provision
in
dispute
was
enacted
four
years
ago,
as
it
was
re,
it
was
enacted.
B
We
urged
the
legislature
to
codify
protections
that
had
been
negotiated
by
the
department
of
justice
to
ensure
that
small
suppliers,
small
producers
of
beer
and
craft
liquors
would
have
access
to
market.
That's
why
that
provisions
is
so
important.
B
B
Can
be
more
satisfied
with
that
provision,
but
in
the
event
they're?
Not
with
that,
we
have
that
provision
there,
the
legislature
enacted
it
for
an
important
purpose,
which
is
to
prevent
the
monopolization
of
the
beer
and
liquor
market.
So
I
would
conclude
with
that,
unless
any
questions
are
directed
to
me
yet
myself.
D
D
So
if
I
decide
to
carry
a
certain
brand,
I'm
required
to
carry
a
minimum
inventory,
I
don't
get
to
choose
how
much
I'm
going
to
order.
I'm
told
what
the
inventory
is
going
to
be,
but
then
there
was
apparently
an
issue
with
the
credit.
So
I
guess
I
want
to
understand
exactly
how
these
are
going
to
fit
together
if
it's
mandated.
I
have
to
carry
that
inventory
if
I
want
that,
but
I'm
not
given
the
same
amount
of
time
on
credit
to
actually
pay
for
it.
D
The
business
relationship
puts
me
at
a
disadvantage
because
I'm
having
to
pay
out
it,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
this
all
works
and
if
it
ends
up
being
cash
on
demand,
that's
even
a
bigger
burden
because
I'm
being
told
how
much
to
carry
but
then
I
end
up
having
to
pay
cash
on
delivery,
and
we
know
what
stock
looks
like.
I
mean
we're,
not
talking
small
stock.
Here.
I
understand
where
I
think
we're
talking
you
know.
O
Madam
chair
to
you
and
through
you
to
viceroy
carlton.
O
You
with
respect
to
our
wholesalers.
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
a
wholesaler
pays.
The
state
income
tax
state
income
tax,
state
excise
tax,
the
moment
they
get
the
beer
so
whatever
liquor
it
is
wholesalers
before
they
do
a
thing
pay
the
state,
so
that
is
the
state
is
made
whole
immediately
number
two.
O
We
have
credit
terms,
so
we
are
required
to
provide
credit
terms
to
every
one
of
our
customers,
no
matter
how
small
the
the
the
bar
is
to
a
casino
to
everyone-
and
that
is,
it
is
essentially
45
days
before
you
can
go
on
cod
and,
as
everybody
knows,
during
the
pandemic,
we've
we've
all
gone
far
and
exceeded
that
to
make
sure
that
our
our
partners
on
the
retail
side
have
product.
Even
though,
in
some
cases
we've
gone
beyond
that
the
whole
goal
was,
we
need
to
keep
folks
solvent.
O
We
need
to
keep
them
around.
So
what
has
happened
to
some
of
our
wholesalers
is
that
a
particular
supplier
cut
our
credit
in
response
to
what
was
passed
four
years
ago
and
and
again
they
have
their
reasons
for
it.
O
We
disagree
with
that,
but
it
just
makes
it
makes
the
marketplace
so
much
more
difficult
when
you
have
to
go
cod
on
on
required
inventory
and
yes
in
many
cases,
it's
a
very
large
amount
and
ultimately
you're
paying
both
the
cod
you're
paying
and
and
and
mind
you
for
some
wholesalers,
it's
easier
than
others.
Our
smaller
folks
obviously
have
a
much
deal
for
more
difficult
situation.
O
A
A
Then
they
have
to
pay
on
top
of
that
taxes,
the
state
excise
taxes
so
they're
out
the
taxes
then
they're.
This
is
the
part
I
want
clarification
on.
Do
you
is
it
in
statute?
Do
they?
They
are
required
by
statute
to
extend
credit
to
45
days,
something
we've
so
then,
by
statute
they're
required
to
extend
credit
for
45
days,
so
now
they're
also
out
that
so
they
really
can't
make
back.
They
can't
make
up
that
money
for
a
possible
45
days.
O
Correct
correct,
madam
chair
and
again
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
really
important.
It's
a
value
of
money.
I
mean
it's
every
every
one
of
these
individuals
having
to
again
in
this
environment.
Our
sales
are
down.
Our
on
premise
is
finally
coming
back,
but
it's
been
a
year
of
of
doing
your
best.
O
You
know
keeping
your
employees.
Our
folks
have
worked
very,
very
hard
to
do
that
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
extending
as
much
credit
as
we
can.
A
I
Down
dondero
loot
for
the
record,
I
I'm
going
to
excuse
myself
because
and
then
there
were
two
only
in
my
committee,
so
I
need
to
be
one
of
the
ones
of
two.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
I'll
leave
my
bill
in
capable
hands
of
mr
reed
and
mr
alonso.
Thank
you.
A
Yes,
we
appreciate
you
joining
us.
Senator.
We
understand
duty
calls
members
any
other
questions
for
our
bill:
presenters,
okay,
seeing
none
I'm
going
to
move
into
the
testimony
portion
of
the
bill.
Hearing
I'm
going
to
start
with
testimony
and
support.
I
don't
see
anyone
here
in
carson
city
for
support.
Is
there
anyone
on
zoom?
If
you
would
just
please
turn
on
your
camera?
For
me.
A
B
Thank
you
chair
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
jeremy
warren
j-e-r-e-m-y
w-a-r-r-e-n,
I'm
the
ceo
of
revision
brewing
company
in
sparks
nevada.
We
are
in
support
of
sap
307.
This
bill
will
allow
revision
brewing
company
to
invest
over
8
million
dollars
into
future
expansion
projects
into
sparx
nevada
and
las
vegas.
B
L
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
michael
hillerby,
on
behalf
of
anheuser-busch.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
as
mr
alonso
alluded
to.
We
are
in
active
negotiations
now
and
are
optimistic
that
there
may
be
something
to
bring
before
you
to
work
out
the
details
having
been
involved
in
those
issues
with
a
number
of
years.
Q
That
also
provides
the
necessary
protections
for
the
wholesalers
on
the
information
that
they
provide
and
keeping
parts
of
that
confidential,
but
would
enable
suppliers
like
anheuser-busch
to
be
able
to
extend
credit
again
also
in
terms
of
the
transfer
of
ownership
in
section
one,
that's
another
area
where
again,
we
don't
think
we're
too
far
off
one
of
the
key
provisions
of
that
and
it's
in
line
eight
talks
about
the
wholesalers,
rights
and
obligations
under
the
contract.
Those
contracts
include
specific
information
about
what
is
required
to
activate
that
transfer
process.
Q
Again,
I
think
there's
been
productive
movement
made
over
the
last
few
days
and
as
mr
alonzo
alluded,
we
understand
you
have
a
deadline
coming
up,
as
do
we
all
and
if
you
could
give
us
and
encourage
us
to
get
this
done
in
the
next
24
hours
or
so
we
would
love
to
come
back
to
you
with
something
that
makes
this
work
for
the
different
parties.
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
questions.
I
C
D
And
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and,
as
it's
been
aptly
said,
this
is
not
my
grandfather's
anheuser-busch
and
I
mean
that
really
he
was
a
teamster
at
the
brewery
in
st
louis,
so
I
grew
up
with
anheuser-busch
being
part
of
of
my
family.
So
but
currently
anheuser-busch
is
no
longer
anheuser-busch.
It's
inbev,
correct.
Q
Thank
you
vice
chair,
carlton,
michael
hillerby,
anheuser-busch
inbev,
I
believe,
is
the
corporate
name
of
the
company.
It
is
a
part
of
a
larger
company.
Now
they
remain
proud
of
their
their
teamster
heritage
and
their
active
teams
to
participation
around
the
united
states
and
the
jobs
that
they
helped
create.
A
L
G
The
law
effectively
ties
wineries
to
their
existing
wholesalers
and
makes
it
virtually
impossible
for
new
wholesalers
to
enter
the
market.
The
state
mandated
stifling
of
competition
results
in
higher
prices
and
reduced
service
harming
consumers.
Since
the
franchise
law
was
enacted,
there
has
been
significant
consolidation
of
the
wholesale
tier.
Now.
National
mega
wholesalers
have
substantial
control
over
the
market
due
to
the
lack
of
alternatives.
There
is
no
longer
unequal
bargaining
power
that
is
rectifying
by
state
mandated
franchise
protection.
G
We
do
not
see
a
public
policy
purpose
in
adding
even
more
restrictive
terms
that
further
entrench
the
giant
wholesalers
section
1
requires
a
supplier
to
approve
the
sale
of
its
nevada
wholesaler
within
30
days
after
receiving
notice.
A
wholesaler
is
critical
to
the
survival
and
growth
of
the
suppliers.
Brands
and
30
days
is
not
enough
time
to
evaluate
a
new
wholesaler
in
a
large
market.
The
supplier
may
need
to
meet
with
a
new
wholesaler
and
gather
additional
information
to
determine
if
the
standards
are
met.
The
state
mandated
30-day
time
frame
is
section.
G
3,
subsection
13
prohibits
materially
different
payment
terms
for
winery
payments
to
wholesalers
versus
wholesaler
payments
to
wineries.
However,
these
are
very
different
commercial
transactions.
Almost
all
wholesaler
payments
are
to
purchase
the
wine,
which
is
a
standard
business
transaction.
In
contrast,
winery
payments
to
wholesalers
are
typically
for
special
promotions.
The
winery
needs
to
verify
reports
submitted
to
the
wholesalers
and
payment
delays
can
occur
due
to
inadequate
information
from
a
wholesale
whole.
G
L
J
Thank
you
chair
and
committee
members.
This
is
brian
reader,
that's
b
r,
I
a
n
r
e
d
e
r
with
ferrari
public
affairs
speaking
on
behalf
of
molson
coors.
To
be
brief,
I'll
just
say
that
we
agree
with
the
testimony
for
mr
hilleby
and
also
say
we
value
our
relationships
with
our
distributors
and
look
forward
to
further
work
this
week.
Thank
you.
L
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
tom
clark.
That's
t-o-m-c-l-a-r-k
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
the
distilled
spirits
council
of
the
united
states,
also
known
as
discus,
and
I
too
just
want
to
echo
the
opposition
comments
of
mr
hillary
and
the
others,
and
we
very
much
look
forward
to
the
continued
communications
with
the
wholesalers
and
others
on
this
particular
bill.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
L
A
O
Madam
chair,
alfredo
alonso
again
for
the
record.
Yes,
we
had
conversations
with
the
senator
about
some
issues
that
was
in
a
previous
bill,
dealing
with
wine
and-
and
we
have
looked
at
what
he
is
attempting
to
do
here
and
we
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
R
I'm
gonna
have
to
show
this
a
little
bit.
I
thank
you
for
hearing
this
amendment.
I
have
talked
to
the
bill
sponsor
as
well
as
mr
alonso
and
we've
got
three
key
pieces
of
it
of
this
bill.
It's
really
for
my
a
couple
of
wineries
down
in
southern
nevada,
but
it
does
impact
wineries
all
across
the
state.
R
I
hope
you
can
hear
me
all
right
going
through
this
mask,
but
anyway
the
what
it
really
does.
It
allows
for
non
a
non-contiguous
location
for
a
winery
as
long
as
they're,
both
licensed
so
technically.
They
don't
have
to
all
be
in
the
one
one
facility
as
long
as
they
are
licensed
the
other
piece
of
it.
R
It
would
allow
for
a
winery
to
sell
alcoholic
beverages
at
that
tasting
room
or
winery
as
long
as
they
were
licensed
by
the
local
jurisdiction,
and
I
know
there
is
at
least
one
person
on
on
zoom
that
would
testify
that
does
own
the
winery
down
there,
the
third
change
in
it
it.
It
is
required
that
25
of
the
fruit
used
in
a
wine
has
has
to
be
nevada
fruit.
This
would
also
require
in
the
production
of
mead,
that
at
least
25
of
the
honey
that
was
used
would
be.
R
Would
it
in
fact
be
grown
in
the
state
and
that
the
other
huge
change
or
the
biggest
change
is
it
would
go
from
sell
it
retail
serve
by
the
glass
or
premise
not
more
than
president?
It's
a
thousand
cases.
This
would
move
it
to
two
thousand.
Their
argument
is
because
the
fruit
the
grapes
in
this
state
fluctuate
so
much
depending
on
the
year,
the
frost.
It
doesn't
give
them
enough
stability
there
with
a
thousand
cases.
They
would
like
to
move
that
to
2000
cases
and
that's
pretty
much
the
gist
of
the.
In
fact.
R
R
You
know
licensed
as
a
separate
location.
They
can
be
considered.
One
winery
sell
alcoholic
beverages
on
the
premises,
a
thousand
cases
to
two
thousand
cases,
just
to
give
them
a
little
more
market
stability,
and
that
in
is
long
and
short
of
what
the
bill
does
and
again
I
brought
the
bill.
I've
got
a
most
of.
You
are
familiar
with
prompt
winery
down
in
perump.
If
you've
ever
been
in
in
southern
nevada,
a
very
nice
place
to
build
bill
logan
and
then
we've
got
tim
burke
has
another
one
we're
trying
to
develop
an
industry.
R
We
have
to
again
the
requirements
are
25
of
it:
nevada
fruit,
which
in
fact
will
develop
for
my
in
my
area,
which
is
agriculture,
and
so
we
can
get
some
vineyards
and
some
production
going
that
way.
So
I'm
and
mr
alonso
and
senator
lupe
were
gracious
enough
to
allow
me
to
try
and
tag
this
bill
on
to
see
if
we
can
get
a
little
economic
development.
Going
with
that.
I
know
tim
burke
is
probably
on
zoom
and
could
testify
a
little
better
to
it.
If
you
have
any
questions,
thank
you.
A
Okay
and
I
think
we'll
hold
off
because
we've
heard
this
bill
senator
gokuchi
before
so
I
don't
want
to
have
a
bill
hearing
on
a
bill
that
we've
heard.
Thank
you
for
presenting
the
amendment
I'll
just
go
to
the
committee
to
see
if
they
have
questions
for
you
on
the
amendment
committee.
O
Madam
chair
member
of
the
committee,
alfredo
alonso
again
for
the
record.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
committee
for
allowing
us
to
present
to
you
today
and
if
anyone
has
any
questions
after
the
fact
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
any
of
them
and
we'll
continue
working.
A
Thank
you,
mr
alonzo.
Okay
members.
I
will
now
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
307..
Okay,
with
that
members,
we
are
going
to
come
back
into
our
work
session.
I
inadvertently
lee
had
incorrect
notes
and
was
not
supposed
to
rule
senate
bill
245.
We
thought
we
had
another
bill
on
here,
so
I
do
apologize
for
that
and
I
want
to
call
let
the
bill
sponsor
know
that
I
do
apologize
for
that.
A
Senator
confusion
on
my
end,
but
I'm
gonna
hand
it
back
over
to
our
policy
analyst
to
bring
us
back
into
work
session
and
present
senate
bill
245.
A
C
C
This
is
to
amend
the
bill
to
authorize
an
employee
to
bring
a
civil
action
against
the
employer
for
up
to
two
years
after
the
employer's
failure
to
pay
wages,
compensation
or
salary
to
an
employee
upon
termination
is
required
under
existing
law.
The
labor
commissioner
is
prohibited
from
taking
jurisdiction
of
a
claim
for
unpaid
wages
upon
termination
during
the
tendency
of
a
civil
action
for
the
same
wages.
Thank
you.
D
And
and
thank
you
madam
chair,
I
know
this
was
an
issue
that
was
brought
up
in
the
hearing
and
we
thought
we
were
perfectly
clear.
So
apparently
we
need
to
be
crystal
clear,
so
I
appreciate
the
amendment
as
long
as
the
amendment
doesn't
slow
down
the
bill,
I'm
ready
to
make
a
motion.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
Okay,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
okay.
Will
the
nays
please
raise
their
hand?
Okay,
I
have
a
name
from
assembly
member
o'neill
assembly
member
kasama,
assemblymember
dickman
assemblymember
hardy
motion
carries.
I
will
assign
that
floor
statement
to
assemblymember
duran.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
now,
committee
members,
we
can
move
into
the
last.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
being
here
senator
for
coming
back.
I
think,
okay,
members,
now
that
will
move
us
into
the
last
agenda
item
for
our
meeting,
which
is
public
comment.
Well,
we
give
those
listening
over
the
internet
time
to
call
in.
I
am
just
going
to
quickly
run
through
public
comment
housekeeping.
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
public
comment
is
a
time
to
discuss
matters
that
fall
within
the
jurisdiction
of
converse
and
labor.
A
If
your
remarks
are
outside
of
that,
I
will
ask
you
to
redirect
them
or
terminate
them.
We
also
open
and
close
the
testimony
on
a
bill
to
establish
a
public
record
of
it.
So
public
comment
is
not
intended
to
be
a
continuation
of
a
bill
hearing.
We
ask
that
members
treat
everyone
with
respect
and
do
not
comment
on
comments
made
by
other
members
or
witnesses,
and
we
encourage
you
to
submit
your
testimony
in
writing
for
inclusion
in
the
meeting
record
with
that
broadcasting.
Do
we
have
anyone
on
the
phone
line
wishing
to
give
public
comment.