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A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
stark
good
afternoon.
Everyone
welcome
to
commerce
and
labor.
I
am
your
vice
chair,
acting
as
chair
today,
as
ms
haudegee
is,
is
not
available
for
the
meeting
today.
So
I
will
be
cheering
so
welcome
to
everyone
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
if
we
could
have
the
roll
call.
Please.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much,
please
mark
chair,
how
to
be
absent,
excused
and
other
members
present,
as
they
arrive
good
afternoon
with
this
afternoon.
Folks,
we'll
be
starting
with
assembly
bill
442
has
been
requested
by
assemblyman
orlicker,
who
would
like
to
just
give
us
a
brief
overview,
and
then
he
has
another
commitment
in
another
committee.
So
we'll
be
happy
to
excuse
him
afterwards.
So
with
that,
I
will
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
442
and
invite
the
assemblyman
forward
to
to
to
testify
good
good
afternoon
good.
F
Afternoon,
thank
you,
chair
carlton
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
I
am
david
ornet
licker
representing
assembly
district
20
in
clark
county.
I
am
here
today
to
present
assembly
bill
442
and
the
bill
will
require
health
care
providers
who
are
authorized
to
prescribe
controlled
substances,
to
complete
training,
to
better
identify
patients
who
have
or
are
at
risk
of
developing
a
substance
use
disorder.
F
I
am
pleased
to
be
here
to
present
it
before
you
and
before
we
get
into
the
presentation,
I
would
like
to
direct
your
attention
to
the
conceptual
amendment
that
should
be
available
on
nellis,
which
we
will
discuss
in
more
in
a
few
minutes.
But
the
basic
point
is
to
implement
this
as
a
requirement
of
continuing
education,
rather
than
as
a
requirement
of
licensure.
F
The
problem
that
the
bill
addresses
is
the
nationwide
opioid
epidemic.
It
was
a
serious
problem
before
coca-19
hit
us
and
emerging
data
shows
that
it
has
worsened
over
the
past
year.
This
represents
a
crisis
on
top
of
a
crisis
and
within
these
crises,
is
another
extremely
concerning
issue:
drug
use
during
pregnancy,
which
impacts
mother
baby
in
the
larger
community.
F
At
this
point,
I
would
like
to
turn
over
my
time
to
dr
andrea
peterson,
clinical
pharmacy
specialist
in
pediatrics
neonatology,
an
assistant
professor
of
pharmacy
practice
college
of
pharmacy
at
roseman
university
of
health
sciences
and
our
own,
dr
stephanie
woodard,
at
hhs,
to
provide
additional
background
on
the
issue
and
discuss
the
bill,
and
I
appreciate
your
allowing
me
to
head
over
to
hhs
and
present
my
bill
there.
Thank
you.
A
D
Good
afternoon
cheryl,
chair
carlson,
this
is
stephanie
woodard
from
the
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health.
Dr
peterson
is
having
difficulty
getting
into
the
meeting
she
just.
Let
me
know
that
she's
on
hold
and
waiting
to
be
admitted.
A
G
Madam
chair
sorry,
for
my
tardiness,
this
is
the
ceiling
with
ryerson.
I'm
here.
A
C
Thank
you
for
having
me
you're
ready
for
me.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you,
chair
hargee,
and
members
of
the
committee.
For
the
record.
My
name
is
andrea
peterson
and
I
am
a
clinical
pharmacist
for
dignity,
health's
st
dominican
hospital
and
am
co-founder
of
the
empowered
program
empowered
stands
for
empowering
mothers
for
positive
outcomes
with
education,
recovery
and
early
development.
C
C
We
understood
the
financial
impact
this
would
have
on
the
state
and
instead
came
up
with
a
no-cost
policy
option
that
has
the
potential
to
impact
many,
not
just
pregnant
women.
This
policy
option
revolves
around
continuing
education
credits
for
expert
which
stands
for
screening,
brief
intervention
and
referral
to
treatment.
C
And
was
adopted
by
the
interim
health
committee,
many
thanks
to
members
of
that
committee
and
dr
stephanie
woodard
from
dhhs
for
their
help
in
drafting
this
legislation.
As
I
mentioned,
esper
stands
for
screening
brief
intervention
referral
to
treatment.
It
is
an
evidence-based
approach
that
can
be
rapidly
performed
in
a
number
of
settings
to
identify
patients
with
substance
use,
disorder
or
patients
who
are
at
risk
for
substance,
use
disorder
and
is
a
medicaid
reimbursable
service.
C
This
practice
is
recommended
by
all
major
societies,
including
samsa,
which
is
substance,
stands
for
substance,
abuse
and
mental
health
services,
administration
and
the
united
states.
Preventative
service
task
force
as
a
best
practice
and
as
a
standard
of
care
ab442
will
require
the
providers
who
can
prescribe
controlled
substances,
complete
a
two-hour
training
on
expert
once
and
will
qualify
for
existing
continuing
education
requirements
related
to
substance,
use
and
other
addictive
disorders,
and
the
prescribing
of
opioids
set
forth
in
ab474.
A
A
Thank
you.
I
believe
I
have.
H
I
I'm
absolutely
supportive
of
what
it's
how
it's
going
to
help
people
honestly
at
the
end
of
the
day,
but
I'm
just
curious
to
if
you
could
give
a
little
bit
more
background
on
what
the
current
continuing
education
requirements
are
for
our
licensees
is
this:
do
they
typically
get
their
continuing
ed
every
year,
or
is
it
every
two
years
I'm
just
just
trying
to
figure
out
when
their
opportunity
will
be
to
comply
with
this
by
january
2024,
and
then
also
wondering?
D
So
stephanie
woodard
for
the
record.
I
can
take
the
latter
question
and
the
goal
of
this
legislation
was
not
to
add
any
additional
cme
requirements,
but
to
allow
that,
as
for
training,
to
take
the
place
of
current
requirements
which
were
put
into
statute
in
the
2017
legislative
session
in
assemblyville
474.,
which
requires
two
cmes
for
the
screening
or
misuse
of
substances.
D
So
if,
if
necessary,
these
cmes
would
actually
meet
those
minimum
requirements.
H
H
A
You're
welcome
committee
members
other
questions.
C
So
they
would
have
to
take
two
hours
of
of
that
requirement,
plus
two
hours
for
this
new
language,
but
in
total
they
don't
have
to
take
more
than
what
is
currently
required
for
a
total
amount
of
ce.
Is
that
correct?
So,
basically,
they're
going
to
have
four
hours
of
opioid
type
training?
Is
that
correct
just
wanted
to.
C
D
So
stephanie
woodard
for
the
record
to
address
the
question.
The
intent
of
this
legislation
is
to
allow
the
two
hours
of
cmes
required
for
aspert
to
count
as
the
two
hours
that
are
already
required
for
the
screening
and
understanding
of
addiction
and
substance
misuse
that
is
required
already
in
statute.
D
Correct
that
is,
that
was
the
intention
of
the
legislation.
I
understand
there
is
an
amendment,
that's
also
available
as
an
example.
C
Correct
so
if
we
already
have
that
in
in
regulation,
then
why
are
we
adding
this
if
this
would
also
include
the
two
hours
that
are
already
listed
there.
C
Andrea
peterson
for
the
record,
I'm
not
sure
if
dr
witter
was
trying
to
speak,
but
this
would
be
to
you
know,
mandate
that
expert
training
just
so
that
everybody
can
be
practicing
that
evidence-based
approach
for
that
screening.
Brief
intervention:
referral
to
treatment
within
the
state
all
of
our
providers.
C
So
it's
more
an
emphasis
of
of
it's
more
regulation
to
emphasize
that
this
is
a
requirement
now
in
statutes.
A
Assembly,
women,
if
you
would
ask
for
a
follow-up,
that's
that's
probably
we
would
appreciate
it.
Speaking
on
the
behalf
of
the
opposition.
Is
I
unders,
I
understand
the
concern,
but
they
will
have
an
opportunity
to
air
their
opposition.
So
if
you
have
another
question,
please
proceed
no.
A
D
G
Hi,
this
is
joseph
heck,
red
rock
government
relations
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
osteopathic
medical
association.
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair
members
of
the
committee.
I
know
that
our
exhibit
is
in
opposition,
but
upon
seeing
the
proposed
amendment,
it
addresses
all
of
the
concerns
that
we
had
in
our
letter
of
opposition,
namely
making
this
a
one-time
requirement,
rather
than
a
recurrent
requirement
allowing
it
to
apply
to
the
current
cme
requirements
and
allowing
a
grace
period
for
new
licensee
applicants.
To
take
the
course,
therefore,
we
are
no
longer
in
opposition
and
would
be
in
support.
A
You're
welcome
other
callers
and
support.
Please.
D
D
A
A
I
have
a
hard
time
getting
into
my
own
meetings
sometimes-
and
I
have
people
here
to
help
me
so
no
problem.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
so
with
that
we
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
442
and
we
will,
let
me
see.
What's
on
my
list,
we
will
go
to
assembly
bill
359,
we'll
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
359..
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
am
venesha
consonant
I
represent
assembly
district
18,
which
is
in
southeast
las
vegas
a
little
bit
of
henderson,
and
I
am
here
today
to
talk
about
assembly
bill
359,
just
a
little
bit
of
background,
almost
850
000
nevadans
that
are
ages
5
and
over
speak
a
language
other
than
english
in
their
home.
That
is
more
than
one
in
four
residents.
I
Since
between
1980
and
2018
there
has
been
an
eq,
an
increase
of
over
a
thousand
percent
nevada
being
the
the
largest
excuse
me,
let
me
rephrase
that
nevada
has
experienced
the
largest
percentage
increase
in
those
speaking
a
language
other
than
english
at
home
by
an
increase
of
a
thousand
percent
between
those
dates,
1980
and
2018..
I
So
those
individuals
represent
approximately
31
percent
of
the
population
in
the
state.
Many
of
them
live
at
or
below
the
federal
poverty
limit.
Beyond
that,
these
populations
are
also
vibrant
markets
for
goods
and
services
and
when
a
business
reaches
out
to
a
community
that
speaks
a
language
other
than
english,
with
the
intention
of
creating
a
business
relationship.
I
That's
where
assembly
bill
359
comes
in
to
sort
of
to
use
a
sports
metaphor.
The
creation
of
ab359
is
with
the
intention
to
sort
of
follow
through,
like
you
would,
if
you
were
playing
golf
or
any
of
this
any
other
sport
to
complete
the
whole
thing
you
want
to
always
follow
through.
I
What
this
bill
requires
in
that
situation
is
that
the
contract,
when
those
are
required,
that
the
contract
is
in
the
language
of
that
community.
So
to
me,
that's
the
follow
through
from
the
beginning
of
creating
that
market
relationship
all
the
way
through
to
making
sure
that
the
the
buyers
of
those
goods
and
services
have
the
contract
in
that
language,
because
if
there
are
any
disagreements
between
the
business
and
the
consumer
and
for
some
reason
they
go
to
any
court.
I
The
only
thing
that
the
court
will
focus
on
or
the
main
thing
that
the
court
will
focus
on
are
the
words
in
the
contract.
So
if
you
negotiate
or
create
a
transaction
from
an
entity
where
everything
is
done
in
a
language
other
than
english,
but
you
cannot
read
the
contract
and
something
goes
wrong
and
you
find
out
when
you're
in
court
that
the
contract
did
not
match
what
was
what
was
told
to
you,
you're
in
an
incredible
bind
and
that's
the
problem
that
ab359
is
is
designed
to
take
care
of.
I
So
there
is
an
amendment
it
is
available
on
nellis
and
I
would
like
to
go
through
the
bill
right
now.
With
the
amendment
and
then
open
it
up
to
any
questions
that
you
have,
I
would
like
to
start.
I
don't
wanna.
I
wanna
go
a
little
bit
out
of
order
with
this,
so
I'd
like
to
start
with
section
four,
which
is
in
the
bottom
of
page
three,
because
this
is
really
the
the
intent
of
the
bill.
I
The
amendment
adds
on
section
4,
subsection
1..
It
says
a
person
who,
in
the
course
of
his
or
her
business
or
occupation,
and
the
amendment
ads,
advertises
in
a
language
other
than
english
and
negotiates
orally
or
in
writing
any
of
the
transactions
listed
in
subsection
three
in
a
language
other
than
english
or
who
allows
an
employee
or
agent
of
the
person
to
negotiate
orally
or
in
writing.
I
Basically,
this
boils
down
to
it.
Will
it
would
be
considered
a
deceptive
trade
practice
if
you
advertise
in
a
language
other
than
english
and
you
create
a
business
relationship
by
selling
the
goods
or
services
that
require
a
contract,
and
that
transaction
was
verbally
in
that
language
other
than
english,
but
you
give
them
a
contract
that
is
only
in
english.
That
cannot
be
understood.
I
That
is
a
deceptive
trade
practice.
That's
the
genesis,
or
you
know
the
meat
of
this
whole
bill,
so
to
go
back
to
the
beginning,
to
read
that
you
know
go
over
the
bill
with
the
amendment
in
section
3
subsection,
one.
I've
made
a
small
amendment.
I
Currently
it
says,
as
used
in
sections
three
to
nine
inclusive
in
this
of
this
act,
unless
the
context
otherwise
requires
contract
or
agreement
means
means
the
document
that
creates
the
rights
and
obligations
of
the
parties
which
results
from,
and
I
have
added
in
the
amendment,
a
transaction
or
negotiation
discussed
in
section
four
of
this
act.
The
reason
for
adding
a
transaction
is
not
every
purchase
for
the
sale
of
goods
and
services
is
always
a
negotiation.
I
In
fact,
consumer
wise,
most
most
most
contracts,
are
sort
of
just
a
take
it
or
leave
a
contract.
It's
more
of
a
transaction.
It's
not
a
negotiation,
so
just
to
confirm
that
this
covers
both
I
wanted
to
add
transactions,
so
that
is
why
that
is
added
subsection.
Three,
I'm
sorry
subsection
yeah
section,
two
subsection
three
has
a
list
of
the
terms
that
are
not
included,
so
these
are
items
that
are
exempt
from
this
contract.
I
This
contract
requirement,
however,
I
have
deleted,
or
the
amendment
includes,
a
deletion
of
subsection,
3,
a
3,
a
retail
installment
contract
or
account
or
other
revolving
sales
or
loan.
The
reason
is
somewhat
twofold:
from
a
consumer
protection
point
of
view:
retail
installment
contracts,
there
are
a
lot
of
great
actors
for
the
per
the
sale
and
purchase
of
cars,
but
there
are
also
some
in
the
subprime
market
that
that
aren't
good
actors.
So
this
actually
will
be
a
backup
currently
in
chapter
97.
I
I
It
will
just
be
a
backup
so
because
again
they
would
have
to
advertise,
have
sort
of
a
budget
be
availing
themselves
of
going
into
these
communities
that
are
speaking
a
language
other
than
english
for
t
for
this
to
even
kick
in.
I
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
if
that
is
the
case-
and
they
are
speaking-
let's
say-
tagalog-
they
go
to
a
buy
here,
pay
here
or
a
subprime
car
dealership
and
the
entire
conversation
is
done
in
tagalog,
but
it
comes
down
to
their
one.
Person's
understanding
is
that
they're
purchasing
a
car
and
the
contract
says
lease
that's
incredibly
important
for
that
contract
to
be
in
in
tagalog
in
that
situation.
So
that
is
the
reason
that
I'm
asking
for
for
that
portion
to
be
amended
section.
Four.
I
I've
already
pointed
that
out,
because
that
is
kind
of
the
the
big
part
of
the
purpose
of
of
this
bill.
So
for
also
wants
you
to
point
out
in
subsection
four.
I
I'm
sorry
section
four
subsection
three.
I
have
a
an
amendment
on
that.
I
was
contacted
concerning
a
worry
that
this
may
or
may
not
encompass
casino
markers,
so
I
put
in
an
amendment
to
exempt
them.
I
I
Those
businesses
that
are
availing
themselves
financially
through
advertisements,
one
way
or
another,
to
create
a
relationship
stating
you
know
and
that
they're
speaking
that
that
language
other
than
english-
and
I
don't
want
to
accidentally-
include
other
entities
that
would
complicate
that
situation,
because
the
the
this
bill
is
more
narrow
than
it
is
originally
written.
I
am
also
asking
to
delete
section
six
and
section
seven
section.
I
Six
deals
with
display
conspicuously
displaying
a
notice
in
the
place
of
business
that
a
person
that
translations
are
required
where
that
shouldn't
really
be
required,
if
they're,
not
advertising
and
availing
themselves.
So
that's
the
reason
for
removing
section,
6.
section:
seven,
it's
along
the
same
lines,
section,
seven
deals
with
and
interp
interpreters,
which
there's
a
lot
of
issues
just
overall,
especially
with
consumer
protections
with
children
or
people
who
don't
understand
the
concepts
of
some
of
this
not
being
able
to
fully
translate
it.
I
So
the
idea
again
going
back
to
if
they're
advertising
in
that
language,
if
they're
saying
that,
there's
that
they
are
fluent
and
there's
someone
in
that
business
speaking
that
language,
they
should
be
the
ones
as
it
would
be
in
any
other
business
relationship
explaining
that
contract.
So
that
is
the
reason
for
my
request
to
to
delete
section.
I
7.
also
just
want
to
point
out
in
section
8,
there
are
certain
things
that
are
exceptions
to
requiring
to
be
translated
within
a
contract
and
those
are
names
of
persons,
numbers
brand
names,
trade
names,
etc.
So
there
are
some
things
within
those
contracts
that
will
not
need
to
be
translated
into
another
into
the
language.
That's
spoken
other
than
english,
and
also
section
9
allows
the
person
to
to
rescind
the
contractor
agreement.
I
If
this,
if
this
law,
if
it
becomes
a
law,
is
breached,
everything
else
in
the
following
pages
of
this
bill
are
all
conforming
language
to
bring
it
in
line
in
the
different
areas.
I
So
I
know
that
with
a
lot
of
information,
just
want
to
go
back
to
the
fact
that
this
was
narrowly
tailored
so
that
if
the
business
is
already
doing
this
and
is
creating
those
relationships,
jay
just
follow
through
from
beginning
to
end
and
that
anyone
who
builds
that
relationship
can
also
walk
out
and
the
next
day
or
the
next
week
read
the
contract
to
make
sure
that
they
fully
understand
it.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I'm
open
to
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much
assemblywoman
for
walking
us
through.
We
understand
showing
up
having
a
bill
and
having
to
go
through
the
amendment.
At
the
same
time
as
you
go
through
the
bill
we've
I
think,
we've
all
and
anyone
who's
done.
A
bill
presentation
has
had
to
go
through
that.
A
I
Exactly
madam
sheriff
anisha
considine
for
the
record:
yes,
because
if
this
was
so
broad,
then
businesses
would
have
to
have
languages
or
contracts
in
so
many
multiple
languages,
and
there
would
call
that
would
cause
a
little
bit
more
chaos.
So
exactly
exactly
what
you
said
if
they
are
availing
themselves
and
they
are
reaching
out
to
that
community.
That's
when
this
triggers
it.
A
Okay
and
just
for
clarification
purposes,
this
would
not
apply
to
non-profits
who
provide
safety
net
type
services,
food
pantry,
you
know
things
things
that
folks
would
need,
because
we
do
sometimes
non-profits
will.
Let
folks
know
that
there
are
services
available
in
their
particular
language,
but
they
don't
have
the
backup
documents
in
a
translated
form
for
them.
So
this
is
strictly
to
businesses.
I
A
Think
you've
clarified
the
record
just
by
saying
the
sale
portion
of
it,
so
that
would
alleviate
some
of
the
email
concerns
that
I
got.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
for
addressing
those
concerns.
I
do
have
a
number
of
members
who
do
have
questions,
so
I
will
go
to
mr
o'neill
assemblyman
o'neill.
First.
I
believe
I
saw
your
hand.
F
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
for
the
time
miss
johnson,
very
nice
bill,
a
wonderful
presentation.
I
have
one
quick
question.
I
think
I
know
the
answer,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify
if
a
company
advertises
whatever
the
company
business
may
be
in
english,
but
then
at
the
bottom
you'll
often
see
them
say
si
habla,
espanol
or
whatever
they
would
be
exempt.
Still
from
this
bill,.
I
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblyman
o'neill
through
vice
chair,
carlson
carlton.
This
is
vanisha
counseling
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
The
in
the
intent
of
this
bill
would
not
be
at
the
bottom
of
something
there's
a
line
that
says
yo,
habla
espanol.
The
intent
would
be
that
the
entire
ad
would
be
in
that
english
language
other
than
english,
because
that
means
that
not
only
do
we
that
we
are
fluent
in
this
language.
I
We
are,
you
know
we
are
holding
ourselves
out
as
as
an
entity
that
can
have
the
entire
conversation
negotiation
transaction
with
you.
F
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for,
first
of
all
for
the
really
good
explanation
of
the
bill.
I
appreciate
you
going
through
it
like
that
section
by
section,
so
I
just
want
to
just
give
an
example
so
that
I
understand
so
in
advertising.
Like
you
mentioned
a
billboard
or
say
they
do
an
internet,
you
know
something
on
their
website
or
they
send
a
postcard
in
a
mail
or
something
like
that,
whatever
language
they
send
that
in
then
they
should
have
an
appropriate
contract.
D
I
Thank
you
assemblywoman
hardy
through
vice
chair
carlton.
This
is
venesha
counseling
for
the
record.
Yes,
so
one
example
that
I've
had
in
a
conversation
is
if
there
is
let's
say,
a
billboard
that
is
in
mandarin
and
somebody
comes
in
and
they
speak
a
korean
and
there
just
happens
to
be
somebody
speaking
korean.
There
is
no
onus
on
the
business
to
then
suddenly
have
a
contract
in
korean.
I
hope
that
that
kind
of
makes
that
clear.
D
I
understand
if
you're
advertising
in
a
certain
language,
but
then
yeah
you
wouldn't
expect
a
business
to
have
multiple
contracts
in
all
of
these
different
languages.
I
mean
I
assumed
they
could
get
one.
You
know
like
in
the
example
you
described,
but
they're
not
going
to
have.
You
know,
80
different
contracts
expected
to
have
that
many
contracts
in
different
languages.
I
Correct
assembly
assembly
women
through
five
star
carlton
venetian
counseling
for
the
record.
Yes,
now
there
may
be
some
businesses
that
have
are
available
to
do
like
multiple
and
they
do
ads
in
multiple
different
languages.
They
would
be
required
under
this
bill
to
have
those
available
if
they
did
that.
However,
in
the
situation
I
said
earlier,
it
would
not
be
considered
a
deceptive
trade
practices.
I
Someone
came
into
a
business
and
was
able
to
have
a
conversation
in
russian
with
someone
and
then
demand
to
have
that
con
that
that
contract
in
russian,
if
there
was
no
advertising
or
no
availing
of
that
business
into
that
community,.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
A
H
Yes,
thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair
and
and
thanks
for
this
presentation-
and
I
just
have
two
quick
questions
to
clarify.
One
is
when
we
talk
about
advertising.
H
Is
that
specifically
paid
advertising
as
opposed
to
social
media,
or
would
social
media
count
in
that
so
because
oftentimes
people
might
post
things
facebook
or
twitter,
or
something
like
that
so
just
wanted
to
clarify
if
that
was
captured
in
this
or
if
that's
excluded
from
this.
I
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblyman's
tolls,
vinisha
constandine
for
the
record.
If
they
are
advertising
on
social
media
as
a
business,
they
do
tend
to
have
to
pay
for
those
ads.
So
if
there
are
ads
that
are
in
a
language
other
than
english
and
I
would
agree,
I
would
believe
that
they
were
paying
for
those.
Now,
if
someone
let's
say
I
really
love
business
a
and
I
just
put
up
on
social
media
in
a
language
other
than
english.
How
much
I
love
them
and
I
suggest
people
to
go.
I
That
is
not
what
I
would
consider
advertising
or
the
definition
of
advertising.
I
believe
under
nrs
598.
H
Perfect
thanks
for
just
making
sure
that
was
clear
and
then
and
then
the
last
thing
is.
I
see
that
there's
no
effective
date
and
specifically
outlined,
and
so
I
just
wondered
what
the
effective
date
would
be.
I
believe
there
is
a
default.
H
So
maybe
legal
could
help
us
with
this,
but
just
to
make
sure
that
there's
enough
time
for
businesses
to
be
aware
of
this,
so
that
they
they
can
implement
these
new
practices
and
so
do
do
you
know
what
the
effective
date
is,
or
would
you
consider
putting
a
specific,
effective
date
to
give
them
time.
I
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblywoman
atolls.
This
is
vinisha
counseling
for
the
record.
It
is
my
understanding
that,
without
a
date
on
the
bill
that
the
effective
date
would
be
october,
1st
2021.,
if
legal
is
here-
and
I
am
wrong-
please
correct
me-.
A
I
believe
you
are
correct
assemblywoman
thank
you
and
I
think
the
follow-up
to
assemblywoman
tolls's
question
would
be
do
we
do
you
think
that
would
give
folks
enough
time,
depending
upon
when
this
bill
would
pass?
Do
you
think
october
1st
is
a
good
date
or
is?
Will
there
still
be
continuing
discussions
about
possibly
giving
businesses
a
little
bit
more
time
to
comply?
I
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair
for
the
question,
vinisha
constandine
for
the
record.
I
have
not
had
any
any
of
the
discussions
that
I've
had
I've
not
heard
any
questions
about
the
date
of
effectiveness.
Part
of
that
might
be
that
there's
an
assumption
that
if
you
are
advertising
already
in
in
a
language
other
than
english
that
this
you
know
some
may
already
be
doing
this
or
that
it
would
not
be
that
much
of
a
heavy
lift
to
do.
I
But
yet,
if
there
is
anyone
out
there
that
wants
to
move
the
state,
I
am
certainly
happy
to
have
a
conversation
with
them
and
be
open
to
doing
that.
A
A
I
don't
believe
so
so
with
that.
I
believe
we
can
go
to
those
in
support
of
the
bill.
I
believe
we
have
miss
romero,
who
was
listed
in
support
of
the
bill.
Is
she
available.
B
Good
afternoon
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
sofia
romero.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
here
today.
Yes,
I'm
here
to
comment
today
in
support
of
av359
ab359
goes
a
long
way
to
solving
a
problem
that
we
see
regularly.
B
I
am
an
attorney
in
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada
and
the
consumer
rights
project,
and
we
have
many
people
coming
to
us
because
they
signed
a
contract
that
was
written
in
english,
despite
not
being
able
to
read
it
because
they
relied
on
what
they
were
told
by
the
person
on
the
other
side
of
the
table.
B
B
Often
people
in
these
situations
tend
to
rely
upon
their
children
to
translate
kids
that
are
too
young
to
enter
into
contracts
themselves
or
who
are
unlikely
to
have
the
vocabulary
or
understanding
to
accurately
translate
these
transactions.
People
who
do
not
speak
english
tend
to
trust
others
who
speak
the
same
language
as
them.
They
view
them
as
their
community
members
and
depending
on
the
culture.
Sometimes
you
can
view
them
as
family.
They
believe
that
what
the
person
on
the
other
side
of
the
table
is
telling
them
is
true.
B
A
D
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Could
we
get
go
to
callers
in
opposition.
D
A
Thank
you
very
much
if
we
could
open
up
the
line
for
the
opportunity
for
those
in
neutral,
please.
D
D
G
M-O-R-A-D-K-H-A-N
with
the
vegas
chamber,
first,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
bill's
sponsor
for
reaching
out
to
the
business
community
regarding
ab359,
I
believe
we
had
some
very
good
productive
conversations
about
finding
the
proper
balance
regarding
the
concerns
that
were
brought
forth
and
also
creating
a
standard
that
would
be
important
to
the
business
community.
We
and
we
appreciate
her
accepting
our
suggestion
on
a
advertising
standard,
and
so
we
we
are
in
neutral,
say,
and
we
appreciate
the
work
of
the
bill
sponsored
reaching
out
to
business
committee
to
find
a
resolution.
A
D
G
Good
afternoon,
chair
dunder,
loop
and
members
of
the
committee
amber
stidham,
that's
s-t-I-d-h-a-m
on
behalf
of
the
henderson
chamber.
We
too
want
to
thank
assemblywomankonstein
for
reaching
out
to
our
organization
early
in
this
process,
to
talk
through
the
concepts
of
the
bill
and
walk
through
some
of
our
concerns,
and
questions
really
appreciate
all
of
our
hard
work.
I
just
want
to
look
over
the
posted
posted
amendment,
so
we
can
respond
accordingly.
Thank
you.
D
G
To
comment
in
neutral
and
thank
you
to
the
bill
sponsor,
we
greatly
appreciate
having
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
and
have
conversations
share,
some
of
our
concerns,
as
well
as
suggestions
for
improvement,
we're
reviewing
the
amendment
and
think
that
it
alleviates
all
our
concerns
and
really
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
the
bill
sponsor.
So
thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
comment.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we'll
go
back
to
the
bill
sponsor
assemblywoman
considine.
Do
you
have
any
closing
comments?
Thank
you.
I
Vice
chair
carlton,
I
just
want
to
want
to
thank
the
the
committee
for
allowing
this
bill
to
be
heard,
and
I
want
to
thank
everyone
that
I've
been
working
with
for
multiple
months
to
make
sure
that
we
could
get
something
that
is
reflective
of
the
diversity
of
our
state.
That
is
also
a
protection
for
consumers
and
also
looks
looks
to
the
future.
So
I
appreciate
everyone's
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
have
a
wonderful
weekend.
A
A
E
Good
afternoon,
madam
vice
chair
and
esteemed
colleagues
of
the
commerce
and
labor
committee,
I
am
assemblyman
editor
flores
proudly
representing
assembly
district
28
and
I'm
here
to
present
somebody
bill
298.
E
If
I
could
just
briefly
anecdotally,
share
a
story
that
triggered
my
desire
and
and
more
than
anything,
lit
the
fire
in
my
belly
to
say
I
needed
to
get
involved
and
then
later
learned
from
legal
aid
of
southern
nevada
that
they
were
working
on
this.
So
I'm
very
happy.
I
was
able
to
work
with
them,
but
anecdotally
in
the
community.
E
The
english
language
period
share
stories
that
they
thought
they
purchased
a
vehicle
when
in
fact
they
were
only
leasing
it,
and
I
found
that
to
be
wildly
unbelievable
and
more
than
anything,
predatory
on
behalf
of
some
of
these
businesses-
and
I
had
had
that
frustration
and-
and
I
had
heard
it
multiple
times
and
then
luckily,
I
had
an
opportunity
to
link
up
with
legal
aid
of
southern
nevada,
who
then
took
me
to
a
murad
of
other
instances
and
other
situations
and
more
technical
issues
when
it
comes
to
leasing
a
vehicle,
and
so
I
am
going
to
briefly
provide
some
over
are
arching
information
regarding
purchasing
of
a
vehicle
and
what
goes
into
those
contracts
versus
when
you're
leasing
a
vehicle
and
then
I'm
gonna
hand
over
the
presentation
to
miss
romero.
E
E
We're
very
appreciative
of
their
feedback,
and
I
know
some
hours
were
put
into
it,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
them,
so
just
for
some
background
information
when
you
purchase
a
vehicle
here
in
the
state
of
nevada,
there's
certain
built-in
terms
in
a
prescribed
sales
contract
that
not
only
help
consumers,
but
they
also
help
level
the
playing
field
amongst
dealerships
so,
for
example,
terms
like
making
sure
that
one
particular
dealer
can't
repossess
a
vehicle
before
its
competitor
or
that
a
dealership
isn't
charging
more
in
late
fees
and
other
dealerships.
E
Unfortunately,
the
situation
we
have
here
in
the
state
of
nevada
is
that
the
same
is
not
true
for
leases,
with
the
exception
of
some
federal
regulations,
the
leasing
market.
Here,
the
consumer
leasing
market
in
nevada
is
largely
unregulated
and
this
results
with
unscrupulous
businesses
skirting
the
protections
built
into
sales
contracts
and
what
they
do
is
instead
push
you
into
a
lease
agreement.
E
For
example.
Currently,
there
is
no
regulation
as
to
the
definition
of
default,
the
amount
of
fees
that
can
be
charged
or
even
when
again,
as
I
previously
mentioned,
when
somebody
thinks
they're
buying
a
car
in
months
or
years
later,
find
out
that
they're
actually
entering
into
a
sales
agreement.
Excuse
me
lease
agreement,
and
so
again
that
goes
to
the
heart
of
where
I
started.
E
E
As
you
all
know,
we
start
with
one
piece
of
legislation,
but
after
working
with
the
stakeholders,
we
are
working
strictly
off
of
the
conceptual
amendment
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
there
is
take
a
first
step,
I'm
not
saying
that
this
is
going
to
fix
it
all,
but
it's
a
first
step
to
help
us
specifically
with
our
used
car
leases
and
making
sure
that
we
put
them
on
the
same
playing
field
as
other
vehicle
transactions
in
the
state,
making
sure
that
we
have
those
protections
and
safeguards
in
place.
E
B
Thank
you
assemblyman
flores
good
afternoon,
madam
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
help
present
here
today
for
the
record
and
as
a
assemblyman
flores
stated,
my
name
is
sophia
romero
and
I'm
a
staff
attorney
in
the
consumer
rights
project
at
legal
aids
nerves
in
nevada.
B
Before
I
begin,
I
would
just
like
to
thank
assemblyman
flores,
as
well
as
the
stakeholders
who
helped
us
really
hone
this
legislation
into
into
what
is
now
the
conceptual
amendment
it
will.
Hopefully,
if
this
measure
passes,
it
will
be
a
much
needed
addition
to
nevada
law
and
solves
a
problem
that
we
see
on
nearly
a
daily
basis.
B
As
we
know,
second,
to
buying
a
home
purchasing
a
vehicle
is
the
most
expensive
purchase
of
one
site.
Well,
not
everyone
owns
a
home.
Most
everyone,
especially
in
nevada,
has
to
buy
a
car
in
order
to
get
to
work.
The
grocery
store,
the
doctor
get
their
kids
to
school,
just
essentially
get
around
and
live
life,
because
the
volume
of
vehicle
sales
and
repairs
in
the
state
is
so
high.
Not
a
day
goes
by
where
someone
doesn't
reach
out
to
the
glad
center
seeking
assistance
on
a
car
issue.
B
We
see,
we
see
everything
from
people
having
their
cars
repossessed
when
they
are
less
than
24
hours
late
with
the
payment,
sometimes
despite
assurances
that
they
wouldn't
be
repossessed
until
a
later
date
to
being
charged
upwards
of
25
a
day
in
late
fees,
an
amount
that
tends
to
increase,
and
even
people
who
had
no
idea
that
they
leased
a
vehicle
instead
of
purchasing
one
despite
oral
assurances
and
representations
that
it
actually
was
a
sale
to
say
this
affects
the
non-english
speaking
community
disproportionately
is
an
understatement.
B
I
have
sat
in
a
deposition
with
a
client,
an
older
gentleman
who
was
almost
in
tears
because
he
kept
having
to
respond
to
a
posing
counsel's
question
with.
I
don't
read
or
understand
english
for
each
of
the
72
times.
She
pointed
out
the
word
lease
in
his
contract
when,
after
years
of
paying
and
being
almost
done
with
his
lease
agreement,
his
vehicle
was
repossessed,
despite
the
dealership's
promise
that
they
wouldn't
repossess
for
another
week
to
give
him
a
chance
to
pay.
B
When
he
came
to
our
office.
It
was
me
who
had
the
unfortunate
task
of
telling
him
that
it
was
not
a
purchase
agreement,
but
rather
a
lease
agreement
which,
unlike
the
sales
contract
that
we
currently
use
here
in
nevada,
does
not
have
a
30-day
built-in
grace
period,
a
local
pro
bono
attorney,
and
I
recently
wrapped
up
a
case
for
in
july
of
2019
a
woman
leased,
a
2003
mercury
130
000
miles
on
it.
She
was
required
to
pay
on
that
lease
for
a
term
of
115
months
or
nine
and
a
half
years.
B
B
It's
going
to
have
a
value
of
3
300
like
the
example
before
this
woman.
This
woman
had
no
idea
that
she
had
signed
a
lease
agreement
instead
of
a
sales
contract.
B
However,
unlike
the
example
before
her
primary
language
is
english
she's,
a
native
english
speaker
and
still
had
no
idea
that
it
was
a
least
agreement
instead
of
a
sales
contract.
Additionally,
her
vehicle
was
repossessed
two
days
prior
to
the
due
date
of
her
next
payment
a
date
the
dealership
had
confirmed
with
her
in
a
text
message.
B
This
is
so
prevalent
that
we
even
had
a
former
employee
who
said
who
had
just
come
over
to
the
office
just
started
doing
intakes
and
she
said
wow.
I
see
a
lot
of
this
one
dealership
and
I
said
yeah,
you
know
they
do
this
all
the
time
and
she
said
well.
I
bought
my
car
there
and
I
said:
are
you
sure
you
really
bought
your
car
and
the
next
day
sure
enough?
She
came
in
to
work
with
her
lease
agreement
and
was
just
completely
helpless.
She
had
no
idea
what
to
do
so.
B
This
happens
more
than
we
would
think
we
we
want
to
think
these
are.
Are
you
know?
These
are
the
rare
instances,
but
these
are
not
the
rare
instances.
This
is
happening
more
often
than
not.
Well,
it
used
to
be
one
or
two
used
car
dealerships
that
engage
these
type
of
predatory
practices
as
regulation
on
car
sales
has
increased,
so
have
pres
have
predatory,
leasing,
practices
it's
because
of
these
practices.
We
need
clear
laws
surrounding
consumer
vehicle
leases.
B
Now
I
will
walk
through
the
sections
of
the
bill,
so
section
two
puts
and
again
as
assemblyman
flores
stated,
we
are
working
off
the
conceptual
amendment,
not
the
original
draft
of
the
legislation,
so
section
two
puts
into
statute
with
standard
default
language,
which
is
already
a
part
of
every
car
sales
contract
in
nevada.
So
this
is
not
different
for
dealerships
if
you're
selling
a
car.
This
is
the
same
terms
that
you
already
have
to
comply
with.
This
now
just
applies
to
leases.
B
Section
three
focuses
on
used
car
leases
and
requires
certain
terms
to
the
lease
agreement,
whether
in
the
agreement
itself
or
in
an
addendum.
This
lets
the
consumers
know
the
terms
of
default,
not
to
sign
the
document
if
there
are
blank
spaces
in
the
document
limits
the
amount
of
late
fees
that
can
be
charged
to
the
lesser
of
fifteen
dollars
or
eight
percent
of
the
installment
amount,
which
is
the
same
as
it
currently
is
in
the
battle
sales
contract.
Again
we're
not
doing
anything
that
they're
not
already
doing
for
car
sales.
B
It
also
sets
forth
the
for
the
disclosures
that
the
dealership
must
provide
to
the
consumer
and
the
consumer
which
sign
such
as
in
full
large
font,
a
disclosure
that
lets
consumers
know
that
this
is
a
lease
and
not
a
sale
and
that
they
will
not
own
the
vehicle
at
the
end
of
the
contract
term
unless
they
pay
additional
money,
and
that
has
to
be
in
english
and
spanish
as
well
to
read
everything
carefully,
because
if
there
are
oral
promises
not
included
in
the
writing,
the
writing
will
prevail
and
that
there
is
no
cooling
off
period
in
nevada.
B
Some
states,
such
as
california,
have
a
72-hour
period
where
you
can
buy
a
car.
Take
it
home.
Let's
say
it
breaks
down
on
you
on
the
way
home.
You
can
return
that
car
within
72
hours
and
say
hey.
I
don't
want
this
car,
it's
a
lemon
right
nevada.
We
do
not
have
that
and
so
we're
letting
people
know
that
that
if
they
lease
this
vehicle,
there's
no
opportunity
to
take
the
vehicle
back
and
also
make
sure
that
if
the
contract
contradicts
the
statutory
protections,
the
statute
will
prevail.
B
And
if
the
disclosures
aren't
provided,
it
will
be
considered
a
sale
section.
Four
lays
out
additional
protections
that
are
already
included
in
car
sales,
such
as
the
signal
document
rule
and
the
font
requirements
of
the
of
the
text
of
the
contract.
B
B
The
contract
sign
and
section
section
six
puts
in
a
certain
rate
of
action
for
people
when
the
dealership
has
violated
these
provisions.
Section
seven
is
just
definitions
and
then
section
eight
through
eleven
is
conforming
language,
just
to
make
sure
that
the
the
amendment
complies
with
the
current
language
of
the
statute.
A
E
Somebody
refers
for
the
record
no,
madam
chair,
madam
vice
chair
at
this
time.
We'll
take
questions.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
so
committee
members
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
for
questions.
C
Thank
you
vice
chair.
Thank
you,
assemblyman
flores.
This
seems
like
a
great
bill.
I'm
I'm
saddened
to
hear
of
the
abuse
that's
going
out
in
the
community,
and
this
this
sounds
like
something
that
is
very
needed.
C
My
question
is,
and
I
don't
even
know
if
it
happens
with
some
of
the
other
car
rental
companies-
let's
say
like
a
budget
or
avis
or
something
like
that
is
anything
in
here,
and
I
don't
even
know
if
anybody
from
those
places
might
rent
a
car
for
over
four
months
there,
but
it
will
anything
here,
change
how
they
handle
their
business.
E
Thank
you
for
that
question
assemblywoman,
madam
vice
chair
through
you,
as
some
metropolis
for
the
record
that
that
that's
not
what
we're
intending
to
capture
and
mr
romero
could
could
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
in
that
scenario
of
you
riding
a
vehicle
that
would
not
be
applicable
here,
but
ms
romero,
you
may
have
additional
information
or
maybe
you've,
seen
a
scenario
where
somebody
thinks
they're
purchasing
a
car
and
in
fact
they're
renting
one.
Maybe
you
could
provide
some
insight
as
to
that.
B
Thank
you,
sophia
romero,
for
the
record,
through
vice
chair,
carlton,
to
assemblyman,
florida's
and
assemblywoman.
I
have
not
seen
that
scenario,
and
this
would
not
apply
to
rentals,
such
as
avis
budget,
rental
car,
those
type
of
those
type
of
things.
This
is
a
lease
term
from
a
dealership
that
would,
and
of
course,
dealership
is
defined
in
the
statute,
which
is
one
of
the
definitions,
so
a
rental
car
place
would
not
be
affected
by
the
statute.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
everyone
folks
can
go
directly
to
the
presenter
or
respond
to
the
member.
There's
no
need
to
go
through
the
chair.
So
with
that,
are
there
other
questions
from
the
committee
at
this
time,
mr
assemblyman
o'neill?
Did
you
have
a
question?
Did
I
see
you
raise
your
hand.
A
So,
committee
members,
no
other
questions
of
mr
floyd
assemblywoman
dickman.
A
E
Somebody
negative
for
the
record.
Thank
you,
madam
excuse
me
assemblywoman
dickman
yeah.
I
agree
with
you.
It's
it's
frustrating
that
we
even
have
to
have
this
conversation.
I
agree
with
you.
A
Thank
you
assemblyman.
You
know
we
don't
make.
We
don't
make
these
laws
for
the
good
guys,
because
we
know
there
are
good
guys
out
there.
We
make
it
for
the
vote.
We
try
to
keep
a
level
playing
field,
so
the
good
guys
aren't
at
a
disadvantage.
A
D
G
The
issue
that's
raised
today
is
something
that
I
see
very
often,
and
unfortunately,
it's
something
that
many
clients
and
potential
clients
come
to
me
when
they
thought
that
they
bought
the
car
and
only
after
I
reviewed
deeper,
it
turns
out
that
it
was
actually
a
lease.
So
with
that,
I
support
this
measure
and
thank
you
very
much.
D
D
G
Good
afternoon,
madam
vice
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
this
is
andrew,
mckay
a-n-d,
r-e-w
m-a-c-k-a-y,
representing
the
nevada
franchise
dealers
association.
First
madame
chair
slightly
out
of
order,
but
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
comment
and
with
respect
to
the
prior
bill
ab359
I
hadn't
registered
to
testify,
but
want
to
just
give
a
quick
recognition
to
the
assembly
woman
for
reaching
out
to
several
months
ago
on
that
bill,
and
we
appreciate
her
for
doing
that
on
the
instant
matter.
G
G
We
found
it
absolutely
unbelievable
that
this
practice
was
occurring
in
the
leasing
of
used
vehicles,
hadn't
even
heard
of
such
a
thing
and
appreciate
them
working
with
us
to
make
sure
that
the
majority
of
the
bill
is
focused
on
that
and
hopefully
we'll
take
care
of
these
bad
actors.
That,
frankly,
are
are
preying
on
the
public.
So
that
being
said
appreciate
everybody's
time-
and
I
hope
you
all
have
a
good
weekend.
A
G
Go
ahead,
I
was
just
going
to
say
when
I
registered
several
days
before
the
hearing
that
was
before
the
amendment
was
trued
up
so
faux
pas
on
my
part
for
not
adjusting
that.
Thank
you.
A
E
E
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
flores,
for
your
presentation
and
work
on
this
bill
this
afternoon.
So
with
that
committee
members,
I
believe
we
can
close
the
hearing
on
assemblyville
298
and
that
would
leave
one
item
on
our
agenda
for
this
afternoon,
which
would
be
public
comment,
broadcast
services
we'll
give
it
a
moment.
It's
129.,
we'll
wait
a
moment
or
so
to
allow
people
to
call
in
with
public
comments.
So
committee
members,
please
just
stand
at
ease
for
just
a.
A
D
A
Thank
you
very
much
broadcast
services
and
thank
you
to
all
the
staff
that
makes
it
possible
for
us
to
have
these
meetings.
We
appreciate
all
of
your
help
so
that
committee
members,
our
task
for
today,
is
done.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.
Everyone
have
a
wonderful
weekend
and
see
you
on
monday
morning.
Thank
you
all.