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A
A
A
Thank
you
responded
and
everything.
Okay,
members,
as,
as
you
all
know
this
week
is
going
to
be
slightly
hectic,
so
just
be
prepared
for
weird
hours
in
case
we
have
to
do
last
minute.
Adjustments
specifically
for
friday.
I
wanted
everybody
to
have
a
heads
up.
We
may
have
to
go
into
a
small
recess
and
then
come
back
in
the
afternoon,
so
please
just
be
prepared
to
be
here
all
friday,
especially
those
of
you
who
were
thinking
of
maybe
getting
an
early
flight.
A
A
You,
but
no
seriously
in
australia's
members.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody's
here
and
I
don't
want
anybody
to
be
caught
off
guard
on
today's
agenda.
We
have
senate
bill
349..
A
A
What
that
means
is,
if
there's
an
individual
that
takes
up
30
minutes
of
support
and
makes
it
difficult
for
everybody
else
to
participate
then
so
be
it
same
is
true
for
opposition
and
neutral.
I
suggest
that
the
support
opposition
neutral-
you
speak
to
one
another
so
that
you
can
coordinate
who's
going
to
say
what
and
and
that
you
don't
repeat
yourselves
and
take
away
the
opportunity
from
others
from
engaging
and
then
beyond
that
members.
I
just
want
to
remind
you
that
if
you
are
logged
into
zoom,
please
make
sure
you
you
log
off.
A
If
you're
in
the
committee
room,
you
should
not
be
logged
into
zoom,
making
4it's
life
impossible
with
that.
For
those
of
you
wishing
to
participate,
please
make
sure
you
state
your
name
for
the
record
after
each
question
and
that
you
spell
it
the
very
first
time
so
that
our
folk
that
are
working
behind
the
scenes
can
follow.
Along
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
up
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
349.
C
C
Have
you
thought
about
what
you
might
have
for
lunch
today?
Maybe
an
orange
would
be
good,
maybe
an
apple
and
delicious
healthy.
We
want
our
constituents,
our
families
to
eat
more
healthy
food
like
this,
but
one
thing
I've
noticed
is
that
when
healthy
food
like
this
is
eaten,
we
have
an
orange
peel.
We
have
an
apple
core,
and
quite
often
you
know
it.
It's
distressing
to
me
when
it
ends
up
in
a
landfill.
C
C
Here
in
carson
city,
I
have
michael
dele,
who
is
a
farmer
and
an
attorney
former
classmate
of
mine
at
boyd
law,
school
and
very
interested
in
this
bill
and
then,
with
your
permission,
chair
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
tara
pike
down
in
southern
nevada,
lisa
ortega
and
mark
rubin.
So,
with
your
permission,
chair
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
senator,
donate
and
I'll
stand
by
to
answer
any
questions
after
the
presenters
are
done.
D
My
name
is
fabian
donate
and
I
represent
senate
district
10
in
clark
county,
I'm
here
today
to
urge
your
support
in
senate
bill
349
and
to
give
you
a
quick
context
for
the
work
that
was
already
completed
on
the
senate
side.
As
the
chair
of
the
senate
committee
on
natural
resources,
I
worked
with
senator
orange
all
to
get
this
legislation
to
get
spot.
D
Many
of
the
concerns
that
we
heard
on
the
senate
side
lied
upon
the
reference
to
fee
increases,
upending
contractual
agreements
and
changing
the
definition
of
what
constituted
as
waste.
We
added
provisions
to
prevent
many
of
these
concerns,
which
are
reflected
on
the
first
reprint
of
this
bill
and
in
addition,
rather
than
making
this
legislation
a
mandate,
we
allowed
local
jurisdictions
and
counties
with
the
opportunity
to
pursue
what
would
be
considered
as
a
composting
zone.
D
You
may
hear
statements
today
that
part
of
this
legislation
is
not
necessary
or
that
local
jurisdictions
may
already
have
the
power
to
do
this.
But
I
challenge
that
statement
by
pointing
to
a
real-life
example
with
regards
to
how
we
approach
recycling
there's
an
uncertainty
that
lies
between
the
differential
powers
observed
by
a
city
and
their
respective
county
government,
which
could
potentially
create
a
conflict.
D
Today,
nevada
is
listed
as
one
of
the
worst
states
suffering
from
food
insecurity,
and
we
know
that
this
systemic
problem
has
been
intensified
with
the
kova
19
pandemic
in
clark
county.
Many
of
my
constituents
are
forced
to
live
in
situations
known
as
either
food
deserts
or
food
swamps
terms
utilized
to
signify
a
limited
access
of
a
variety
of
healthy
foods.
And,
given
my
public
health
background,
I
believe
it
is
safe
to
say
that
our
families
deserve
access
to
locally
grown
healthy
foods
and
sb
349
is
the
first
step
to
accomplishing
that.
A
C
C
E
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
and
I'm
sorry,
the
video
camera
I
have
seems
to
be
defective.
Can
you
all
hear
me?
Okay?
Yes,
we
can
okay
great,
so
I
I
want
to
start
out
by
first
thanking
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak,
and
I
am
volunteering,
the
information
that
I
have
based
on
40
years
of
research.
E
E
If
you
want
to
know
how
much
food
waste
is
being
generated,
there's
a
very
simple
formula:
there's
one
pound
per
person
per
day
every
place
in
the
world.
So
that's
such
a
simple
formula.
That's
so
well
established
that
you
can
take
any
city
or
any
town,
whether
it's
urban,
rural
or
wherever
you
are.
If
you
know
the
population,
you
can
calculate
how
many
pounds
tons
per
day
are
going
to
be
generated
and
we
are
drowning
in
food
waste.
E
Now
we
really
shouldn't
call
it
waste,
because
food
scraps
or
the
waste
material
that
ends
up
in
a
garbage
can
might
get
sent
to
a
landfill.
It
might
be
sent
to
an
anaerobic
digester.
It
might
be
a
large
commercial
composter
operation,
but
it
turns
out
that
that
food
material
can
be
used
in
local
composting,
called
bokashi
or
bokashi
fermenting,
and
you
all
know
what
fermenting
is
because
you're
probably
familiar
with
yogurt
sourdough
bread.
Maybe
some
of
you
know
a
little
bit
about
kimchi,
but
the
only
difference
between
traditional
composting
and
bokashi
primarily
is.
E
Is
it
occurring
with
or
without
oxygen?
And
that
turns
out
to
be
extremely
interesting
and
very
important,
and
it's
really
quite
exciting,
because
most
people
in
the
united
states,
until
I
would
say
the
last
few
years,
weren't
really
aware
that
there's
an
alternative
to
oxidation,
which
is
what
what
composting
is
and
composting,
is
actually
difficult
to
do.
You
have
to
be
concerned.
The
traditional
composting
is
difficult
because
you
have
a
carbon
nitrogen
ratio
that
has
to
be
set
fairly
close
to
a
proper
ratio.
E
E
Now.
What
I'm
interested
in
is
bringing
the
soil
back
to
life,
and
I'm
also
interested
in
handling
our
waste
in
a
much
more
efficient
way,
and
it
turns
out
that
if
you
do
the
same
process
using
microflora
and
fungi
that
are
derived
from
the
soil
as
the
material
that's
going
to
cause
the
fermentation
and
you
exclude
oxygen,
the
process
is
extremely
efficient.
It
only
takes
two
weeks
and
in
that
two
week
period
you
have
no
oxidation.
E
E
They
increase
the
yields
and
they
increase
the
architectural
structure
of
the
plant,
making
it
healthier
and
the
other
benefit
when
you
take
that
fermented,
material
and
return
it
to
the
soil,
is
that
it
excludes
the
open
spaces
where
opportunistic
organisms
can
get
in
and
do
crop
damage
or
damage
to
your
vegetable
garden
or
your
fruit
trees
or
whatever
you
have.
So.
E
What
I'm
really
saying
here
is
that,
although
you
might
call
it
composting-
and
it
is
by
sort
of
the
layman's
definition-
composting
your
food
waste-
it's
not
the
same
as
the
oxidized
material
that
you
see
normally
when
people
talk
about
composting
and
you
get
much
more
value
back
into
your
soil
and
it's
my
experience
that
around
the
world,
many
people
are
doing
this
all
the
time.
Every
day,
they've
learned
that
this
is
a
better
way
to
treat
the
soil
and
bring
it
back
to
life.
And
that's
the
other
thing
to
remember.
E
Soil
is
a
living
thing,
so
you
can
improve
your
soil
content
very
rapidly,
literally
overnight.
Once
you
start
this
process,
you
could
reduce
the
greenhouse
gas
production,
heat
and
water,
vapor
and
nitrogen
carbon
dioxide
all
going
to
the
atmosphere
and
put
it
back
into
the
soil,
and
you
attract
other
organisms
like
earthworms
that
make
castings
and
all
kinds
of
things
that
are
living
in
the
soil
back
to
that
soil,
to
improve
your
plant
performance
in
your
yields-
and
this
is
something
that
doesn't
cost
much
at
all.
In
fact,
it's
extremely
inexpensive.
E
It
only
takes
the
culture
media
and
a
container
that
excludes
the
oxygen
and
the
footprint
of
the
process
is
very
small
compared
to
composting
which
takes
up
a
lot
of
land.
So
it's
ideal.
It's
almost
perfect
for
families,
home
growers
or
small
communities
that
might
have
a
pea,
pod
garden
and
they
can
take
that
waste
that
comes
out
of
their
garden.
That
isn't
good
enough.
Maybe
it's
water
that
was
left
too
too
long.
They
can
vent
that
and
cycle
it
right
back
into
the
soil.
E
So
what
you're
really
doing
is
you're
closing
you're,
closing
the
loop
from
the
farm
to
the
to
the
client
or
the
food
consumer
and
then
not
only
what's
happening
after
that
is
the
food
waste
ends
up
going
to
a
landfill
going
to
animal
digestion
or
going
to
a
compost
facility.
Most
people
just
don't
know
that
there
is
this
other
alternative
and
it's
very
easy
to
do,
and
you
don't
have
to
be
very
smart
about
it.
E
The
microbes
know
what
to
do
they're,
hungry
and
the
way
they're
doing
this
process,
I'm
just
going
to
say
one
more
bit.
I
know
that
time
is
precious,
but
about
how
the
mechanism
works.
It's
pretty
fascinating,
as
the
material
is
fermenting
or
pickling.
It's
actually
consuming
the
sugars
and
forming
small
acids.
They're
called
carboxylic
acids
and
these
carboxylic
acids
are
dropping
the
a
they're
making
the
ph
go
lower,
making
the
material
more
acid
and
they
drop
that
ph
down
to
about
four
and
a
half
now
the
reason
they
do.
E
That
is
because
most
of
food
waste
is
a
substance
called
cellulose
it's
hard
to
break
down,
but
the
ideal
enzymatic
activity.
The
peak
activity,
is
right,
around
ph
4.5.
So
when
you
do
this
process,
what
you're
really
doing
is
mimicking
nature.
This
is
what
evolved
over
millions
of
years
and
it's
the
most
ideal
way
to
to
keep
the
soil
healthy.
E
So
the
last
thing
I'll
say
for
the
moment
is
that
if
you're
going
to
walk
into
a
jungle
or
a
forest
anywhere,
you
won't
find
any
rotting
stinking
odor.
You
won't
find
piles
of
material
with
rats
digging
into
it.
You
won't
find
coliforms
and
salmonella
and
wisteria
brooding
on
the
surface
or
festering
in
the
water
supply.
E
E
You
do
get
that
problem
when
you
do
compost
and
that's
one
of
the
serious
problems
of
composting,
is
you
have
to
check
that
over?
I
guess.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
say
is
that
there
are
some
environmental
impacts
that
we
can
just
summarize
with,
and
I
I'm
going
to
just
drop
through
them
a
little
bit
and
the
first
one
I'm
going
to
talk
about
is
the
air
quality.
I
just
mentioned
that
with
fermenting.
E
You
don't
produce
noxious
gases,
you
don't
heat
up
the
atmosphere
and
you
don't
lose
water
into
the
atmosphere,
and
you
don't
get
that
rotting,
putrefaction
odor
that
comes
around
from
compost
sites
in
general.
Now
what
about
water
conservation?
It
is
important-
maybe
not
in
some
areas,
but
in
many
areas
in
the
south,
east
and
southwest
the
cost
to
a
grower
is
very
high
to
get
water
and
if
you
can
put
water
back
into
the
soil
that
came
from
the
food
waste
and
you
can
do
it
locally,
that's
fantastic!
E
E
It's
the
natural
recycling
of
the
trace
elements,
the
nitrogen,
the
phosphorus
and
all
the
other
materials
plus
the
beneficial
microbes
that
are
giving
you
value
and
as
far
as
as
that
goes
what
you've
just
done.
There
is
you've
minimized.
The
demand
for
using
fertilizers
derived
from
petroleum
and
those
fertilizers
don't
stay
in
the
soil.
E
You
maintain
the
material
in
the
in
the
soil,
it
doesn't
run
off
and
then
there's
an
issue
of.
If
you
have
to
transport
things,
carry
things
the
one
thing
I
would
say
there
is,
I
don't
think
any
amateur
or
any
person
should
be
moving
food
waste
around
large
quantities
of
food
waste
because
it
is
dangerous.
It
actually
is
contaminated
with
always
contaminated
with
potential
toxic
pathogens,
but
if
you're
putting
it
in
a
local
garden
and
you're
just
fermenting
it
right
at
your
home
or
right
in
the
area
where
your
your
garden
is
it's
very
safe.
E
It's
easy
to
do
and
you're
not
going
to
miss
as
long
as
you
put
the
oxygen
out
of
the
system,
you're
going
to
get
what
you
want.
So
what
we're
doing
here
is
we're
we're
using
the
land
much
more
efficiently
when
we
return
the
waste
to
the
land.
That's
been
fertilized
and
fermented
on
that
land
and
we
are
minimizing
our
consumption
of
water
and
reducing
will
actually
reducing
the
air
pollution
and
the
heating
up
of
the
atmosphere.
E
I've
got
people
from
iceland
to
australia
all
across
canada
and
the
u.s
and
even
parts
of
europe
and
africa
that
are
doing
this
process
and
that's
what
I've
been
involved
in
for
for
many
years
now,
teaching
people
the
process
and
showing
them
how
easy
it
is
and
getting
the
research
behind
it
that
supports
it
and
documents
it,
and
we
have
lots
of
data
on
that.
So
I'll
stop
at
this
point
and
open
it
up
for
any
questions.
I
know
I
ran
through
a
lot
of
material
there,
but
the
bottom
line
to
remember
is
traditional.
E
E
E
So
let's
leave
it
at
that
point
because
I'm
a
trailer
cover-
and
I
want
the
others
to
have
a
chance
to
make
their
their
discussion
as
well
and
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
answer
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
dr
green,
we'll
continue
down
here
with
senator
orange
so
that
we
can
continue
the
presentation,
because
I
know
you
have
at
least
one
more
speaker
is
that
correct.
C
F
Dr
angela
o'callaghan
and
I
really
appreciate
being
asked
to
speak
in
favor
of
to
support
this
really
important,
build
I'm
dr
angelo
callahan,
I'm
an
associate
professor
and
the
social
horticultural
specialist
for
nevada.
My
doctorate
is
in
horticulture
and
my
areas
of
expertise
include.
I
have
the
master
gardener
program
of
southern
nevada,
youth,
horticulture,
which
goes
teaches
children
from
pre-k
to
post,
high
school
and
community
horticulture
education,
which
covers
teaching
individual
people
who
are
who
want
to
grow
plants.
I'm
also
involved
in
training,
regional
landscape
professionals
in
pesticide
safety.
F
Many
local
gardeners
had
been
told
that
well,
composting
is
impossible
here
in
nevada
and
of
course,
that's
obviously
not
true,
but
I
was
also
told
when
I
first
arrived
here,
which
is
now
20
years
ago.
I
was
told
that
well,
you
can't
grow
vegetables
in
nevada.
F
F
Now
I'm
located
in
southern
nevada
and
anybody
who
has
ever
tried
to
dig
a
hole
in
the
ground
in
southern
nevada
knows
that
our
soils
tend
to
be
significantly
less
than
fertile,
but
we
can
improve
them
and
we
can
improve
them
by
adding
the
organic
matter.
That
is
the
end
product
of
any
composting
program,
whether
it
be
anaerobic,
fermentation
or
aerobic
composting.
F
It's
right,
it's
a
perfect,
perfect
balance
that
it's
provided
by
adding
organic
matter
and
when
I
say
organic
matter
I
mean
the
end
product
of
any
composting
aerobic
or
anaerobic
okay.
Now,
when
you
think
about
it,
technically,
we've
been
in
a
drought
for
20
years,
at
least
in
southern
nevada,
and
these
were
this
was
information
that
I
got
from
the
national
oceanographic
and
atmospheric
administration
or
noaa,
and
they
said
yeah
20
years,
you've
been
in
a
drought,
that's
a
lot
and
we
need
to
hold
on
to
whatever
water
we
can
get.
Okay.
F
So
growing
food
is
not
something
that
we
can
do
easily
here,
but
we
can
do
it
and
we
can
do
it
using
the
materials
that
we
already
have
and
we
generate
on
a
daily
basis,
we're
a
state
with
about
three
million
people
and
dr
green
just
stated
one
pound
of
waste
per
person
per
day.
Well,
that's
a
lot
of
garbage,
that's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
can
be
ultimately
degraded
into
something
that
is
going
to
improve
our
soils.
F
We
have
elderly
people
who
are
living
in
food
deserts.
We
have
children
who
are
living
in
food
deserts,
but
we
also
are
able
to
improve
their
access
to
food
by
locally
grown
foods,
and
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
huge
program.
If
this
bill
passes,
it's
going
to
be
a
wonderful
demonstration
of
what
can
be
done
for
people
living
in
a
desert.
We
have
enough
materials
that
get
generated
that
can
be
broken
down
and
from
there
they
can
be.
F
So
we
have
community
gardens
that
we
can
actually
improve
the
growing
of
food
for
people
who
are
senior
citizens
and
children.
We
have,
as
I
said,
we
have
about
80
community
gardens,
there
are
over
a
hundred
school
gardens
and
everybody
needs
to
eat
and
everybody
is
there's
so
many
people
interested
in
growing
their
own
food.
So
why
not
use
something
that
is
free?
F
F
So
it's
a
very
big
deal
and
the
fact
that
local
governments
can
they
have
control
over
this
process
in
this
bill.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
taking
any
of
the
authority
from
local
governments,
but
it
is
going
to
be
giving
them
the
green
light
for
improving
what
they
already
want
to
do
so
making
this
an
important
part
of
our
horticulture
slash
agricultural
efforts
for
nevada.
F
C
G
My
name
is
tara.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
inviting
me.
I
am
the
sustainability
coordinator
for
unlv
and
I
am
also
the
founder
or
creator
or
starter
of
the
unlv
recycling
program.
G
I
started
that
back
in
1995
and
it
was
at
a
time
when
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
recycling
happening
in
las
vegas.
There
was
some,
but
not
to
the
level
we
have
today,
which
is
impressive
in
my
opinion,
and
so
when
I
talk
about
or
think
about
organic
waste,
I'm
always
looking
at
it
from
the
perspective
of
keeping
the
material
out
of
the
landfill
and
getting
it
back
into
beneficial
use
and
with
organic
waste.
It's
always
been
a
passion
of
mine
to
keep
that
material
out
of
the
landfill.
G
I've
been
composting
in
my
backyard
for
at
least
15
years.
Currently
I
have
a
large
composting
system
in
which
I
use
a
tractor.
I
have
two
and
a
half
acres
and
I
have
some
animals,
so
I
like
to
compost
their
manure
and
I
only
at
my
house
am
able
to
compost
what
I
generate
at
my
house.
That
is
something
that
is
a
is.
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
law
or
it's
what
the
health
district
told
me
is
that
you
as
a
as
a
person
composted
in
my
backyard.
G
I
cannot
accept
waste
from
any
other
people,
neighbors
friends,
nobody.
It
has
to
just
be
what
I
generate
on
my
property.
I
also
have
an
in-vessel
composter
at
unlv
and
again
same
situation.
G
I
can
only
accept
or
compost
in
that
unit
what
is
generated
at
unlv
and
that's
fine,
I'm
not
complaining
about
that
in
any
way,
shape
or
form,
I'm
glad
to
have
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
compost
at
unlv
and
at
my
home.
But
I
think
when
you
talk
about
other
communities
at
similar
size
or
smaller
to
las
vegas
or
reno,
they
have
a
organic
waste
collection,
either
curbside
or
they
have
drop-offs.
G
G
Like
bowling
green,
just
launched
a
six-month
pilot
program,
and
so
pilot
programs
are
wonderful
because
you
can
decide
if
it
doesn't
work
out
to
end
the
program
and
this
bill
would
give
the
that
the
us
the
opportunity
in
nevada
to
do
something
like
this.
But
it's
a
six-month
pilot
program
where
residents
can
drop
off
food
waste
and
landscape
waste.
So
that's
a
great
program
that
has
been
put
in
place
by
bowling
green
and
republic
services.
G
States
like
connecticut,
vermont,
massachusetts,
california,
rhode,
island
and
new
york,
specifically
new
york
city,
have
lots
of
laws
regarding
organic
waste,
material,
keeping
it
out
of
the
landfill
and
these
republic
services
services,
these
areas
and
they've
adapted
to
that,
and
they
can
do
that
as
well.
In
nevada
they
did
win
the
2020
organics
recycler
of
the
year
award
from
the
national
waste
recycling
association
at
obviously
for
work
they've
done
across
the
country.
G
So
they
can
win
in
2021
as
well,
because
we
deserve
it.
We
deserve
to
be
able
to
have
residents,
decide
what
they
want
to
do
with
their
organic
material,
and
I
know
one
of
the
arguments
that
they
and
others
will
make
is
that
well
we
make
electricity
from
the
methane
generated
at
the
landfill.
G
G
This
is
only
gonna,
probably
be
a
tiny
little
chunk
of
organic
waste.
That's
gonna
get
diverted
as
a
result
of
this
bill,
but
that
tiny
chunk
makes
a
big
difference
and
it's
a
big
deal
for
the
people
who
want
to
participate
in
something
like
this,
who
want
to
make
oil
and
who
want
to
keep
their
food
waste
out
of
the
landfill.
G
So
I
think
it's
an
important
thing
to
provide
the
opportunity
to
our
local
governments
to
make
decisions
on
creating
programs
like
this
for
the
residents.
So
thank
you.
C
Heather,
please
thank
you
very
much
chair
flores
and
I
again
want
to
salute
tara
pike
because
for
many
years
recycling
you
know
was
a
challenge
before
we
had
curbside
and
she
started
the
rebel
recycling
program
at
unlv,
which
allowed
many
of
us
to
take
our
recyclables
down
to
unlv
drop
them
off
so
that
they
could
be
recycled,
and
I
certainly
participated
in
that
for
quite
a
while
when,
where
I
lived,
did
not
have
curbside
recycling
in
in
the
apartment,
complex
and
boy.
C
H
H
H
Put
simply
composting
is
a
process
of
recycling,
your
unwanted
organic
trash
and
waste,
turning
it
into
a
soil
amendment
which
can
be
rich
in
the
nutrients
that
plants
need
to
grow
by
creating
a
specific
area
for
all
your
organic
waste
to
compost.
Together,
you
can
ensure
that
only
usable
soil
is
created.
This
waste
will
decompose
over
time
and
turn
the
compost
or
soil
that
you
can
use
in
local
gardening.
An
urban
composting
zone
helps
neighbors
in
the
community
in
a
community
effort
toward
a
greater
self-sufficiency
when
growing
our
own
produce
right
in
our
own
backyards.
H
Nevada
heat
is
good
for
compost
and
helps
it
to
decompose
quickly
and
turns
trash
into
usable
compost
once
more.
Our
area
is
short
on
this
kind
of
quality
soil.
As
you've
heard,
the
need
for
composting
is
often
much
higher
in
dry
spaces.
If
you
live
in
the
desert,
you
may
know
how
difficult
it
is
to
plant
and
grow
certain
vegetables,
fruits
and
flowers.
H
C
C
I
I
Thank
you,
chairman
flores,
michael
dele,
m-I-c-h-a-e-l-d-e-l-e-e,
for
the
record.
It's
a
shame.
We
didn't
hear
from
mark
rubin
from
gilchrist
orchard
in
las
vegas,
there's
such
a
icon
there
and
they
do
so
much
there
with
with
both
composting
and,
of
course,
community
gardening.
I
So
perhaps
we'll
we'll
hear
from
him
at
some
other
time,
but
what
a
great
example
of
what
you
can
actually
do
when
you,
when
you
put
your
mind
to
it
in
southern
nevada,
I
know
our
time
is
limited.
I
just
want
to
briefly
address
a
couple
of
points
from
these
excellent
speakers.
This
morning
I
grew
up
in
los
angeles
in
the
1970s
and
it
was
hard
to
breathe,
and
I
I
lived
through
that
and
it's
different
now
and
there's
a
lot
more
people
there.
So
we
can
change.
I
We
can
make
changes
if
we
put
our
mind
to
it
at
some
point.
20,
30
years
ago,
people
laughed
when
you
said
solar.
Now
look
at
nevada
and
solar.
We
can
make
a
difference.
This
is
how
it
starts,
and
I
tried
to
speak
to
many
of
you
and
I
didn't
get
to
everybody.
I
apologize,
but
there
was
one
thing
that
I
did
see
on
a
board
in
in
one
of
your
offices,
and
that
is
that
you
don't
move
mountains
without
earthquakes
and
let
this
bill
be
that
earthquake
that
moves
us
the
direction.
I
We
need
to
go
you're
going
to
hear
that
we
don't
need
the
bill.
We
do
need
the
bill.
We
need
a
very
loud
and
clear
message
to
be
sent
to
the
community
because
you're
hearing
from
the
community
you're
seeing
the
posts
from
all
of
your
constituents
across
the
state
of
just
how
badly
this
is
needed.
So
it's
your
voice
that
needs
to
go
to
the
other
facets
of
the
administration,
to
the
cities,
to
the
counties,
to
our
state
administrators
and
say:
please
make
this
happen,
we're
not
telling
you
have
to
do
it.
I
It's
permissive
bill,
but
we're
giving
the
guidance
based
upon
established
science
in
other
parts
of
the
world
and
other
parts
of
the
country.
So
I
hope
that
you
can
see
the
need
for
that
and
if
you
actually
read
the
text
of
the
bill,
it's
very
innocuous.
I
realize
it
probably
didn't
start
out
that
way
and
we've
kind
of
drug
along
some
of
the
opposition
because
of
that,
but
it
is
very
innocuous.
I
It
gets
us
to
where
we
need
to
be
specifically.
Composting
right
now
is
defined
in
the
regulations,
and
I
get
that
it's
a
very
loose
definition
under
nac,
444,
572
and
you'll
hear
more
about
that
later.
I'm
sure
it's
basically
anything
that
breaks
stuff
down.
Well,
that's
fine,
but
right
now,
there's
a
built-in
opposition
to
a
lot
of
this,
the
nimby
syndrome
because
of
what
that
has
represented
for
a
lot
of
people
and
that's
why
we
need
to
send
the
message
that
there
is
acidic
anaerobic
fermentation.
I
That
is
it's
composting.
If
you
define
it
very
broadly,
but
it's
not
if
you
define
it
as
against
what
composting
is
traditionally
thought
of
so
by
writing
that
in
as
an
option
and
something
that
we
need
to
be
considering
for
our
cities
and
counties
and
as
something
specifically,
they
should
be
looking
at
for
zoning,
we're
leading
them
we're
providing
the
leadership
that
everybody
is
telling
us
to
provide
and
we're
doing
our
job.
I
Finally,
what
is
it
that
you
can
do
in
a
condo,
an
apartment
or
an
hoa
right
now,
to
make
a
difference?
How
can
you
think
globally
and
act
locally
in
many
ways?
You
simply
can't,
but
with
this
you
can
because
for
a
five
gallon
bucket,
which
is
how
you
typically
would
do
a
bokashi
composting
method,
the
average
homeowner
the
average
tenant
the
average
child
can
make
a
very
real
and
local
difference
and
can
bring
something
to
a
local
facility.
That's
set
up
by
a
city
or
county.
I
It
can
make
a
difference
to
local
farms.
Hopefully
we'll
see
some
community
farming
bills
coming
to
the
legislature,
the
other
half
of
this,
but
without
beneficiating
the
soil.
It's
not
going
to
get
very
far.
So
we've
heard
a
lot
about
farm
to
table.
This
is
table
to
farm.
I
thank
you
for
your
support.
A
C
Oh,
thank
you
very
much
chair.
If
mark
rubin
is
on
zoom
or
phone,
he
was
our
last
presenter
I
had
on
the
list,
but
if
he's
not
here,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
A
I
don't
believe
he's
on
so
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
for
questions
members
who
likes
to
go
first.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
senator
good
to
see
you
here
this
morning.
My
question,
or
I
guess
my
concern
or
issue
with
with
the
bill
would
just
be.
You
know
why
the
need
for
this
to
be
addressed.
You
know
at
the
state
level
and
sort
of
the
top-down
approach,
as
opposed
to
just
allowing
for
this
to
be
dealt
with.
You
know
locally
through
local
ordinance.
You
know
reflecting
the
the
vast
array
of
communities
that
we
have
in
the
states
just
for
one
example.
J
It
seems
this
bill
would
define
in
statute.
I
think
for
the
first
time,
the
term
you
know
composting
sort
of
specifically
and
narrowly
and
as
we
know,
you
know,
as
with
any
sector
or
any
technology,
there's
always
innovations
going
on,
and
that
and
my
thinking
would
be
that
we
may
want
to
afford
more
room
for
flexibility
and
that
kind
of
innovation
locally.
J
So
I
guess
the
way
to
forming
the
question
would
be
what
would
be
the
problem
with
allowing
this
to
simply
be
dealt
with
at
the
county
or
local
level
in
order
to
allow
policy
to
to
reflect
the
particular
concerns
and
needs
of
the
community.
Thank
you.
Oh.
C
Certainly
I
think
if,
if
you
look
at
our
state
and
where
we
are
in
composting
and
the
status
quo,
and
you
look
at
states
across
the
country
and
where
they
are-
and
you
know
you
go
visit
a
friend
in
minnesota
and
minnesota-
has
urban
community
composting,
where
you
can
take
food
scraps
to
a
central
location
and
if
maybe
you're
tired,
when
you
get
off
your
your
shift
and
you
cook
and
dinner
with
your
family
and
you
just
don't,
have
the
energy
to
do
your
own
compost
pile
makes
it
a
little
easier
on
you.
C
Unfortunately,
I
think
the
status
quo
isn't
working
and
it
isn't
helping
us
try
to
divert
organic
waste.
I
hate
to
call
it
waste,
but
things
that
could
enrich
our
soil
and
help
our
community
from
going
to
the
landfill
and
from
being
composted
this
bill
senate
bill
349.
I
believe
it's
crafted
in
a
way
which
does
not
force
any
community
to
do
anything.
It
is
enabling
language
if
a
community
chooses
to
pursue
an
urban
community
composting
zone
and
the
reason
behind
pursuing
the
bokachi
method
a
little
trouble
pronouncing.
C
That
is
that
it
seemed
like
it
had
the
least
side
effects
in
terms
of
odor
or
any
danger
of
bugs
or
mice
rats
attacking
the
composting
pile.
Certainly,
I
think
composting
of
all
kinds
is
great
and
I'm
glad
that
the
regulation
currently
allows
composting
of
all
kind
this
bill.
The
reason
I
went
with
that
method
was
to
try
to
have
the
least
impact
on
communities
with
that
bocce
method,
and
I
think
that
sheriff
there's
a
little
more,
maybe
explanation
on
bokachi,
if
dr
o'callaghan
is
still
on.
I
I
So
in
theory,
yes,
somebody
could
do
traditional
composting,
but,
as
noted
by
the
facts
on
the
ground,
they're
just
they're
just
not,
and
given
the
distance
limitations
that
are
already
written
into
the
ordinances,
particularly
in
clark
county,
it's
pretty
much
impossible,
plus,
given
the
reality
of
hoa
living
apartment,
living
condo
living
it's
physically
impossible,
so
community
sites
are
necessary
rather
than
taking
something
all
the
way
to
the
northwest
side
of
town.
In
the
case
of
las
vegas,
we
have
to
do
something
about
that.
I
I
So,
by
sending
a
message
with
the
statute,
the
way
we
have
it
written
today,
I
think
that
gets
us
to
where
we
need
to
be,
but
it's
not
going
to
happen
overnight,
because
this
opens
the
door
for
cities
and
counties
to
hopefully
walk
through
and,
frankly,
we're
going
to
have
this
presentation
again
in
each
one
of
our
cities
and
counties
to
try
to
get
us
there.
So
that's
all
we
can
hope
to
do.
Thank
you.
K
K
I
appreciate
that
this
is
enabling
language
to
move
into
our
cities
in
counties,
and
my
question
is
relative
to
section
five:
five,
as
we
get
into
the
subs,
it
says
here
that
the
governing
body
of
a
city
may
by
ordinance,
so
we
give
enabling
language,
but
then
item
b
says
must
require
that
promptly
after
any
compostable
materials
have
been
sealed
must
be
delivered.
K
So
I'm
curious
to
know
if
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
who
would
be
a
holder
of
a
certificate
as
an
actual
producer
of
a
farm
and
then
person
or
operation
certified.
What
would
you
need
to
do
in
order
to
be
certified?
Do
you
have
any
idea
what
that
looks
like,
or
what
is
the
scope
of
that
certification.
C
Thank
you
to
you
and
through
you
chair,
florist
ii,
assemblyman
brown
may
certainly
the
certification
at
nrs
576.128
that
comes
from
department
of
agriculture
and
that's
a
certification
as
actual
producer
of
certain
farm
products
regulations.
So
it's
someone
who
is
certified
in
in
agriculture
and
in
farming
and
then
the
federal
the
reference
to
seven
cfr,
part
205,
that
is
the
federal
national
organic
program.
So
that
would
be
someone
who
has
that
certification
from
the
federal
government
as
an
organic
grower.
K
Thank
you
so
just
to
clarify
we're
really
trying
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
members
of
our
broad
community
to
be
able
to
bring
their
recyclable
compostable
materials
to
a
centralized
location
once
they're
in
a
container,
and
they
fermented
for
a
specific
amount
of
time
and
they're
ready
to
be
utilized
within
soils.
That
product
must
then
be
delivered
to
that
authorized.
I
Thank
you
for
the
record,
michael
dele.
The
objective
of
this
language
is
to
make
sure
that
these
materials
just
don't
sit
there,
because
the
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
have
something
that
is
of
value
go
to
waste.
We
don't
want
it
to
be
waste,
we
want
it
to
get
into
the
food
production
cycle.
That's
the
whole
reason
for
doing
this
is
to
get
into
our
soil
and
we're
talking
about
food
production
in
nevada.
You
need
that
to
be
you
know,
you
don't
just
produce
something
and
then
take
it
out
to
the
community.
I
It
needs.
You
have
producer
certificates,
department,
agriculture
and
you
have
the
national
organics
program
which
they're
they
kind
of
overlap
a
little
bit,
but
you
can
have
one
and
not
the
other
in
some
cases,
so
we
want
monitoring
at
all
levels.
This
is
not
about
going
around
or
exempting
out
of
regulations
and
statutes.
This
is
about
creating
an
ecosystem,
to
use
an
analogy
of
statutes
that
encourage
a
local
food
web.
So
we
want
this
to
get
processed
the
acidic
aerobic,
fermentation
and
then
moved
out
to
facilities.
I
Hopefully,
community
gardens
we've
got
some
other
legislation,
that's
hopefully
going
to
make
it
through
sb297
other
examples
of
community
farming
bills,
urban
farming
and
elsewhere.
In
this
it
talks
about,
we
need
some
zoning
changes.
You
know
authorizing
some
donations
for
for
community
composting,
we'd
like
to
see
those
same
things
happen
for
urban
farming.
So
the
purpose
specifically
of
these
two,
the
first
in
the
576
128,
is
somebody
that
has
a
producer
certificate
which
is
very
easy
to
get.
I
You
call
the
primary
culture
you
let
them
know
the
information,
I
think
it's
50
and
they
just
want
to
get
you
into
the
system.
So,
if
there's
ever
a
problem,
they
can
trace
it
back
from
from
a
farmer's
market
from
a
store
from
a
restaurant
to
where
it
was
produced.
Similarly,
with
the
national
organics
program,
we'd
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
of
that
in
nevada,
hopefully
we
will
have
that
again,
but
there's
a
federal
set
of
regulations
that
covers
that.
I
K
I
L
Thank
you
chair,
thank
you,
senator
and
all
of
your
presenters
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
for
pushing
forward
composting.
My
question
is
a
little
bit
along
the
lines
of
my
colleague
to
to
my
right.
Thank
you
for
clarifying
that
an
individual
who
wants
to
do
their
own
composting
is
still
allowed
to
do
that.
I
appreciate
that,
but
then,
if
this
bill
were
to
go
in
and
if
a
community
was
to
follow
the
guidance,
my
questions
are.
L
If
somebody
wants
to
all
of
the
material
that
would
be
eligible
for
this,
if
they
want
to
keep
it
in
in
a
different
sort
of
way,
are
they
able
to
bring
it
to
these
community
compost
locations
or
are
they
required
in
order
to
bring
it
to
this
community
compost
location?
To
follow
this
fermentation
process.
C
Chair
florist
james
orange
allstate,
senate
district
21,
2
and
3
to
assemble
them
in
consonant
the
way
I
envisioned
the
bill
is
that
people
could
drop
off
the
food
scraps,
take
the
orange
peel
and
the
apple
core
to
the
community
composting
location,
and
then
it
turns
into
fertilizer
that
can
be
used
by
a
community
garden
or
by
agricultural
grower
organic
grower
and
for
folks
who,
just
you
know,
have
good
intentions.
C
L
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
clarification.
I
just
know
following
up
with
the
senator's
line,
I'm
thinking
a
lot
of
people
might
have
intentions
and
it
might
just
be
easier
for
them
to
have
like
a
bucket
where
they
throw
things
and
then
bring
it
weekly,
as
opposed
to
like
following
something
that
might
be
a
little
bit
more
complicated.
So
thank
you.
C
I
I
The
details
of
how
it's
going
to
work
in
each
city
and
county
is,
of
course,
going
to
be
left
up
to
the
ordinance
process
in
each
city
and
county.
This
opens
the
door
to
it.
Gives
some
broad
brush
strokes
outlines
some
very
sound
science
that
we've
heard
today
that
supports
this,
but
every
community
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit.
I
Different
is
how
it
approaches
the
most
important
thing
that
you
heard,
of
course,
was
keeping
it
away
from
oxygen,
keeping
it
sealed,
because
then
that's
going
to
get
the
fermentation
process
going
otherwise
you're
going
to
have
the
refraction
process,
which
is
something
you
don't
want
with
this.
So
those
specifics
are
going
to
have
to
be
dealt
with
in
the
regulation
process
and,
of
course,
we
look
forward
to
working
at
the
state
level,
because
I
think
it
might
be
beneficial
to
take
another
look
at
some
of
the
state
regulations
for
this
as
well.
M
My
question
has
to
do
with
section
two
three,
and
did
I
miss
the
explanation
of
the
purpose
of
that
part
of
the
bill
about
the
board
of
health
and
regulations
at
farmers
markets?
Does
that
have
does
that
tie
into
the
composting
or
or
is
that
a
separate
idea.
C
Well,
james
works
all
senate
district
21
to
you
and
three
chair
floors
to
assemble
lumen
dickman
in
the
original
bill.
I
this
this
was
to
facilitate
certain
produce
getting
to
market
that's
locally
grown
and
to
try
to
help
local
growers
get
produce
to
market
and
remove
what
I
believe
was
a
barrier,
and
this
part
through
the
amendment
process
is
still
there,
and
I
still
believe
this
will
be
a
benefit
to
local
growers,
to
get
foods
to
farmers
markets
and
to
be
able
to
sell
locally
grown
produce.
C
I
Thank
you
for
the
record
michael
dele,
I
probably
couldn't
say
anything
better
than
a
supporting
letter
that
was
introduced
march
30th
from
the
sierra
club.
I
That
goes
into
detail,
and
specifically
this
point
about
some
of
the
challenges
that
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
requirements
that
what
you
might
think
of
as
like
maybe
apples
or
something
would
have
to
be
put
in
packages
in
order
to
be
sold
at
farmers
markets.
It
seemed
a
little
bit
confusing
and
I
know
there
was
some
concerns
about
that,
and
nevada
has
a
little
bit
different
approach
to
some
agriculture
than
our
neighboring
states.
I
For
example,
I
think
pistachios
are
considered
a
highly
processed
food
in
nevada,
as
opposed
to
say
california,
where
you
can
buy
them
a
little
more
openly.
So
I
think
this
encourages
us
to
take
a
different
look
at
that,
particularly
where
you're
dealing
with
farmers
markets,
which
are
expected
to
be
a
little
more
accessible.
M
C
Thank
you,
some
of
them
dickman
james
orange
I'll,
send
it
21.,
and
certainly
in
the
bill
where
I
talk
about
a
composting
zone
that
the
city
or
county
can
establish
by
ordinance.
I'm
not
talking
about
you,
know
new
zoning
regulations
or
anything
that
would
need
to
go
before
a
zoning
board,
but
something
that
they
would
establish
through
their
local
ordinance
after
public
hearings.
A
B
B
N
N
B
B
B
B
B
B
N
Hello,
my
name
is
jessica
clark
from
starseeds
urban
farm
j-e-s-s-I-c-a
c-l-a-r-k
we're
an
urban
farm
located
downtown
las
vegas.
We
also
have
a
food
truck
where
we
serve
some
of
our
our
locally
grown
produce
and
salad,
sandwiches
and
wraps.
We
currently
use
a
compost
service
called
viva
la
compost.
N
They
pick
up
our
compost
at
a
cost,
our
our
waste,
which
includes
our
waste
from
our
growing
and
also
our
produce
waste
and
some
of
our
salads,
our
juices
to
to
be
a
minimal
waste,
hopefully
in
the
future,
zero
waste
sustainable
business.
N
But
we
use
this
service
bi-weekly,
where
we
trade,
two
five
pound
buckets
and
she
hauls
them
to
the
only
certified
local
compost
in
las
vegas
and
then
that
in
turn
gets
sold
to
star
nursery.
What
we'd
like
to
have
is
the
option
to
give
our
food
waste
and
our
production
waste
to
a
local
farm
that
we
work
with
instead
of
having
it
used
for
landscaping
and
and
start
a
star
nursery
to
have
that
choice
would
be
really
important
to
us.
N
There's
a
lot
of
community
gardens
that
we
work
with
a
lot
of
farms
that
we
work
with
and
we're
trying
really
hard
in
las
vegas
to
create
a
local,
sustainable
food
source,
but
currently
with
the
regulations
that
we're
facing
we're
unable
to
do
that.
So
passing
this
bill
would
mean
a
lot
for
my
small
business.
It
would
mean
a
lot
for
other
small
businesses
like
viva
la
compost
and,
I
think,
there's
other
juice
bars
and
other
other
places.
N
B
B
B
O
Good
morning,
my
name
is
stephen
andraki
for
the
record:
s-t-e-p-h-e-n
andraki
a-n-d-r-a-c-k-I,
I'm
a
medical
doctor
and
a
farmer.
Thank
you,
mr
oranjal,
and
all
the
committee
members
for
allowing
me
to
give
testimony
and
support
for
this
bill.
I
would
like
to
take
a
little
bit
different
approach,
and
this
is
based
upon
the
experience,
extensive
experience
that
I
have
with
both
farming
and
with
medicine,
I'd
like
to
make
the
appeal
for
the
health
and
future
of
the
community
of
the
state
and
of
our
children.
O
Currently
in
my
medical
practice,
I'm
taking
care
of
a
large
population
of
people,
including
elderly
people,
and
developing
an
integrative
medicine
program
that
is
on
the
forefront
of
becoming
the
wherewith
the
way
and
the
method
we're
going
in
the
future
for
treating
people,
because
we're
asking
for
participation
of
the
patients
in
the
provider
experience
for
assisting
in
their
health.
O
I
am
also
a
pro
farmer,
my
wife
and
I
produce
organic
produce
for
the
las
vegas
market
market,
and
I've
been
composting
for
more
than
20
years,
combining
this
integrative
medicine,
which
is
involving
people
into
their
own
health
into
their
own
future
and
into
their
own
place
in
this
earth
that
we
have
the
only
one
that
we
can
integrate
the
opportunities
for
people
to
take
expression
of
growing
and
participation
and
growing
of
healthy
foods.
Healthy
foods
is
a
part
of
healthiness
and
for
our
overall
health
and
for
continuing
to
remain
healthy.
O
We
have
a
lot
of
issues
to
deal
with
in
farming
and
part
of
that
is
gaining
good
quality,
organic
materials.
We
do
not
add
any
fertilizers
that
are
not
organic.
We
produce
worm,
bins,
worm
castings,
and
we
also
have
the
compost
piles.
We
do
not
have
problems
with
with
this
type
of
perceived
contaminants,
I'm
well
aware
of
microbiology
and
pathogens.
That's
not
an
issue.
The
the
anaerobic
fermentation
adds
a
great
value
to
how
we
can
grow
better
fruits
to
supply
the
market.
O
I
think
that
dr
green
gave
a
wonderful
explanation
as
well
as
everybody
else
in
presenting
today
about
the
value
of
this.
I
don't
know
how
this
all
comes
through.
In
the
end,
I
know
that
we
have
to
start
someplace.
O
My
recommendations
is
to
start
this
process
for
ourselves,
for
our
health,
for
our
children's
health
and
for
the
health
of
the
planet,
and
the
way
to
do
this
is
to
allow
for
this
to
happen
and
to
follow
things
along
and
to
continue
to
make
things
better,
there's
nothing
that
precludes
from
being
safe
them
from
being
sanitary
and
from
working
besides
obstructions
from
people
who
have
other
ideas
about
how
to
envision
the
future
of
our
health
and
of
our
community.
O
I
will
end
by
saying
that
we
take
the
responsibility
for
our
own
health
and
for
the
for
the
earth,
and
this
is
a
wonderful
place
to
make
that
by
starting
this
process
and
following
along.
Thank
you
for
your
attention.
A
I
apologize
for
interrupting
you
we'll
start
with
first
with
those
here
in
carson
city
and
then
we'll
move
back
to
the
phone
lines.
I
apologize
broadcast.
P
So
we've
we've
put
several
hours
of
work
into
this
bill
meeting
with
senator
orrin
shaw
meeting
with
senator
denyate
and
we've
also
engaged
with
southern
nevada,
health
district
and
the
divided
division
of
environmental
protection.
And
what
we've
learned
is
that
there
really
aren't
barriers.
So
we've
asked
the
question:
what
is
it
that
we
can
fix?
What
is
it
that
needs
retooling
and
we're
unable
to
drill
down
on
the
solution?
P
And
so
you
know
really
our
opposition
centers
around
what
was
raised
in
the
hearing
on
the
senate
and
that
it's
really
that
the
appropriate
place
to
address
this
is
in
regulation.
So
I'll
dig
into
the
meat
a
little
bit
by
way
of
background
cns
waste
solution
is
an
independently
owned
family
operation.
P
We
are
the
hauler
and
recycler
out
in
nye
county,
so
that's
the
towns
of
pahrump,
beatty,
amargosa
valley
and
inyo
county
and,
from
our
perspective,
a
good
example
of
why
the
the
local
regs
is
the
appropriate
place
to
tackle.
This
is
the
fact
that
cns
brought
recycling
to
the
towns
of
pahrump,
beatty
and
amargosa.
P
Before
we
were
statutory
mandated
under
that
that
population
cap,
we
will
reach
that
number
after
the
census,
but
10
years
ago,
before
we
were
even
required
under
nrs
to
recycle,
we've
done
that
it
started
with
one
bin
at
walmart.
That
was
emptied
a
couple
times
a
week.
Now
there
are
bins
all
over
pahrump
there's
one
in
beating
amargosa
and
on
busy
weekends,
they're
emptied
multiple
times
a
day.
P
So
this
is
a
great
example
of
how
local
communities
can
come
up
with
solutions
that
work
for
them,
but
one
of
the
real
concerns
for
cns,
given
that
we
are
in
nye
county,
we
don't
have
a
health
district.
We
do
not
have
southern
nevada
health
district.
They
do
not
service
night
county
so
who?
Who
is
our
enforcement?
Who
is
our
regulator?
Who
is
there
to
help
us
if
something
goes
wrong?
I
think
you
probably
heard
from
the
presenters
that,
if
not
done
right,
composting
can
be
quite
dangerous.
We
agree.
P
P
P
But
if
composting
is
not
done
right,
it
can
be
dangerous,
coupled
with
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
a
health
district
and
if
something
could
go
wrong,
we
put
our
communities
at
risk
and
finally
defining
composting
in
state
law
and
nrs.
We
believe
that
undercuts
the
state
environmental
commission's
ability
to
change
the
composting
definition
in
reg,
which
then
has
the
effect
that
the
commission's
responsibility,
which
is
to
oversee
these
composting
operations
and
make
sure
that
they're
safe,
that
they're,
responsible
and
they're,
not
creating
pollution
or
nuisances
within
the
community.
P
A
And
thank
you
for
joining
us.
I
believe
we
have
a
question
for
madam
vice
chair.
Q
Thank
you,
and
so
one
of
the
questions,
one
of
the
one
of
the
oppositions
that
I've
heard
to
this
piece
of
legislation
has
just
been
that
the
use
of
composting
is
going
to
impact
the
process
for
trash
right
now.
Q
It's
not
something
you
really
touched
on,
but
I'm
just
hoping
that
you
could
answer
this
like
how
many
people
does
your
company
serve
right
now
and
do
we
really
expect
that
many
individuals
to
go
from
not
composting
to
composting
for
it
to
impact
the
business
model.
P
P
If
I
understand
your
your
question
correctly
by
share,
there's
nothing,
that's
preventing
the
the
community
composting,
for
example,
viva
la
compost,
who
you
heard
from
in
the
support,
testimony
they're
operating
currently-
and
this
is
a
service
that
they
offer
for
35
a
month.
They
can
take
the
goods
and
turn
that
around
we
as
a
company
cns,
do
provide
some
compostable
materials
to
a
dairy
farm
in
amargosa
valley.
That
is
the
only
permitted
composting
facility,
that's
in
our
region,
so
we
we
currently
participate
in
that.
P
Q
Thank
you,
sir,
and
so
I
guess
like
I
I'm
not
quite
understanding
if
this
is
permissive
language,
because
that's
exactly
how
I
read
the
bill
right
now,
it
is
permissive
language,
I'm
not
understanding
what
the
opposition
is,
because
it's
not
creating
those
now.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
this
would
help
us
create
that
dialogue
at
the
county
so
that
we
can
have
this
conversation
about
compost.
I
mean
I
remember
conversations
about
composting
when
I
was
in
elementary
school
and
we
had
a
little
composter
there
at
the
school.
P
Thank
you,
chair
flores,
through
unto
vice
chair,
mackenzie
warren
on
behalf
of
cns
waste
solutions.
So
the
the
issue
is
that,
even
though
the
language
is
permissive,
sp
349
contains
a
definition
of
composting
that
singles
out
one
type
of
composting
which
directly
conflicts
with
nac444.572.
That
includes
all
types
of
composting.
So,
if
I
shared
the
concern,
is
that
should,
let's
say
nye
county
decide
to
engage
in
community
composting?
Should
this
bill
pass
you're
now
creating
tension
between
the
state's
definition
and
the
regulatory
definition
and
we've
seen
success
in
allowing
we
don't?
P
We
don't
need
enabling
language
to
to
encourage
counties
to
do
this
because
it's
already
in
their
their
purview
and
that
process
already
exists
for
them,
and
so
the
concern
is
really
with
the
definition
in
state
law
when
it
should
be
addressed
at
a
local
level.
Q
Thank
you.
So
I
appreciate
that
so
now.
My
understanding
is
that
the
the
issue
is
with
the
definition
of
compost.
So
if
we
make
a
if
we
maybe
an
e
fix
the
definition
of
compost
or
put
enabling
language
to
allow
for
the
commission,
that's
creating
the
regulations
for
comforting
now
to
create
that
definition.
We
would
be
fine
with
this
bill.
P
Chair
floor
is
through
you
and
to
the
vice
chair,
mackenzie
warren,
on
behalf
of
cns.
We
solutions
without
seeing
what
that
enabling
language
would
look
like
and
which
definition
of
composting
we
would
be
adopting.
I
couldn't
say
at
this
moment
here
on
the
diocese
whether
we
could
support
that,
but
I
will.
P
I
will
tell
you
if
I
share
that
we
have
spent
hours
with
the
experts,
which
is
the
nevada
department
of
environmental
protection,
who
is
the
regulatory
agency
charged
with
keeping
nye
county
safe
and
those
state
experts
say
that
this
is
not
necessary
and
creates
an
attention
so
again
without
looking
at
the
language
and
knowing
what
what
the
amendment
could
be.
I'm
just
not
at
liberty
to
to
say
one
way
or
another,
but
we
will
certainly
continue
to
stay
at
the
table
in
good
faith
and
continue
the
discussion
so.
Q
I
certainly
hope
that
if
that
agency
were
to
create
a
definition
of
compost,
then
we
could
get
you
in
support
of
the
legislation.
Is
that
correct?
That
seems
to
be
what
I'm
hearing
if
they're,
that
agency
that's
overseas,
the
health
and
safety
of
the
county
is
okay
with
it.
We
would
be
okay
with
it.
P
Chair
flores
threw
you
into
the
vice
chair.
Mckenzie
warren
on
behalf
of
cns
was
solutions
I
wouldn't
feel
comfortable
speaking
for
ndep,
but
I
will
tell
you
I've
spent
hours
with
them
and
that
is
their
concern
that
the
tension
so
they'll
be
joining
over
the
phone
in
in
neutral.
I
believe
so.
Maybe
we
could
ask
them.
A
J
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
miss
warren.
Just
to
make
sure
I
understood
clearly
a
point
that
you
made.
J
I
believe
you
said
that
one
of
the
results
of
this
this
narrow
definition
of
composting
and
the
way
this
would
be
applied,
you
know
narrowly
and
specifically,
could
actually
discourage
composting
composting
at
the
local
level.
If
that
particular
you
know,
method
or
approve
approved,
you
know,
process
is
not
something
that
is
deemed
to
be.
J
You
know
workable
at
the
local
level,
and
if
that's
the
case,
it
would
seem
to
actually
undercut
you
know
what
seems
to
be
the
intent
of
this
bill
and
based
on
your
understanding
of
the
situation
locally,
which
I
think
is
probably
greater
than
than
that
of
these
committee
members
is
that
is
that
your
assessment?
Thank
you.
P
Chair
flores
through
you
and
to
the
assemblyman
mckenzie
warren
on
behalf
of
cns
waste
solutions.
It
is
so
you
know
enabling
language
that
is
confined
to
a
definition
that
is
narrow.
The
the
argument
could
be
if
that
particular
community
doesn't
use
that
method
of
composting,
then
could
that
dissuade
them
from
going
that
route
because
they
may
say:
well,
we
don't
that
doesn't
work
for
our
soil
or
that
doesn't
work
for
for
this
region,
and
and
so
the
really
the
concern
is
with
this
narrow
definition.
R
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
bringing
bringing
up
the
concerns,
because
I
know
that
sometimes
that's
not
always
comfortable
to
do.
I
have
two
questions.
The
first
was
have
you
proposed
an
amendment
to
the
sponsor
to
try
to
fix
this
problem,
because
I
know
that
on
the
senate
side
there
were
some
other
issues
as
well.
R
I
believe
it
had
to
do
more
with
the
with
the
I
believe
it
was
the
trash
haulers,
I
think,
is
where
that
some
of
those
problems
were
coming
from,
but
have
you
in
fact
proposed
an
amendment
to
the
maker?
So
this
way
this
can
be
fixed.
That'll
be
my
first
question.
My
second
question
will
be
for
legal.
If
the
chair
is
open
to
it,.
P
Chair
flores
through
you
and
to
the
assemblywoman
mackenzie
warren
on
behalf
of
cns
waste
solutions,
you're
correct
the
the
issues
in
the
senate
side
really
dealt
with
the
franchise
agreement
that
initially
touched
the
definition
of
solid
waste,
which
would
impact
franchise
agreements
for
haulers
all
over
the
state.
That
problem
was
fixed.
You
know
through
through
consensus.
However,
the
remaining
portions
are
what
we've
been
working
through.
P
So
is
this
really
a
matter
of
inaccessibility
or
what
are
we
trying
to
fix?
And
so
I
think,
as
an
industry,
you
know
we
defer
to
our
state
experts
and-
and
our
suggestion
was
to
retain
the
farmers
market
and
continue
the
work
in
the
interim
with
with
some
other
solution,
because
it
is
not
a
one-size-fits-all.
R
A
separate
question
for
legal-
if
I
may
please
so
in
your
earlier
answer,
you
had
stated
that
there
was
a
disconnect
between
what
is
being
proposed
here
in
the
code
legal.
If,
if
you
could
also
weigh
in
on
that
belief
that,
if
you
could
please,
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from
as
the
lobbyists
bringing
forward
that
information.
But
if
we
could
also
get
that
legal
opinion.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
Q
Erin
stern
event,
legislative
council
bureau.
The
definition
set
forth
in
section
7.1
is
defining
composting
for
the
purposes
of
this
specific
section.
So
if
a
governing
body
establishes
an
urban
composting
zone,
composting
has
the
meaning
set
forth
in
subsection.
Four,
the
solid
waste
chapter
of
nac
and
sanitation
defines
composting
differently
for
the
purposes
of
those
regulations,
but
the
chapter
the
definition
set
forth
in
7.1,
wouldn't
apply
to
the
nac
provisions.
A
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
members,
any
additional
questions,
assemblyman
ellison,
please
thank.
J
J
By
doing
so,
don't
you
think
that
this
would
create
a
problem
and
a
nuisance
in
in
a
problem
trying
to
collect
all
this
waste
at
the
restaurants
and
and
in
stores
and
stuff
like
this?
Not
only
would
it
create
a
problem
in
a
way
so
to
create
a
smell
and
in
a
separate
dumping
area,
but
would
that
not
fall
into
this,
or
are
we
left
just
looking
at
farmer
markets
and
and
personal?
So
so,
could
you
or
somebody
else,
answer
that
question.
P
J
But
wouldn't
that
still
create
a
problem?
You
know
with
the
sanitation
department,
because
it'd
be
different
bins
and
I
don't
know
they
still
use
the
compost
that
they
use
at
the
landfill
to
help
use
it
is
filled.
Do
they
not.
P
So
I,
if
I
understand
your
question
correctly-
yes,
there,
there
is
a
concern
with
compostable
materials,
because,
if
not
stored
properly,
they
can
be
dangerous,
and
so
our
concern
for
cns
really
exists
with
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
the
same
guard
rails,
that
more
populous
areas
of
the
state
have,
because
we
do
not
have
a
health
district
such
such
as
southern
nevada,
health
district
and
the
the
regulatory
agency
that
is
supposed
to
keep
us
safe
is
ndep,
and
so
the
guardrails
of
understanding
how
long
the
material
can
stay
into
what
amount
and
the
frequency
that
it's
moved
is
definitely
important
to
the
conversation.
P
But
it
would
probably
be
something
that
is
decided
at
a
local
level.
Should
various
counties
and
cities
decide
to
move
forward
with
the
composting
plan.
A
A
Thank
you
miss
warren.
I
appreciate
the
the
dialogue
today
and
thank
you
for
preemptively
reaching
out
to
a
lot
of
us
and
working
to
express
some
of
those
concerns.
Thank
you.
We'll
continue
with
those
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
senate
bill
349.
R
Good
morning,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
edith
duarte
edith,
dua
rte
strategies
360
today
representing
republic
services.
We
share
the
same
concerns,
many
of
the
same
concerns
that
ms
warren
just
mentioned,
and
we
have
been
working
with
ndp
with
the
sponsor,
with
mr
donate
and
with
the
southern
nevada
health
district.
R
Again,
southern
nevada
health
district
actually
hasn't
seen
an
application
come
through
in
a
couple
of
years.
It's
my
understanding
that
that
this
doesn't
stop
them
from
stop
any
company
from
trying
to
compost
commercially.
R
At
this
point,
I
also
really
want
to
thank
tara
pike
for
her
comments
regarding
some
recycling
that
we
do
with
with
unlv.
We
also
do
partner
with
a
pig
farm
in
in
los
ang
in
las
vegas.
Currently,
so
we
we're
already
working
on
trying
to
eliminate
food
waste
from
casinos.
R
We
also
do
have
a
gas,
a
methane
gas
to
energy
plant
at
our
landfill,
and
that
does
power
over
10
000
homes
in
southern
nevada.
So
we
are,
you
know,
trying
to
partner
and
and
be
good
good
partners
with
the
community.
We
just
don't
really
think
that
this
currently,
the
definition
is
not
necessary
because
it
is
broader-
and
I
know
I
know
legal
did
clarify
some
of
the
some
of
that
portion,
some
of
the
other
things
that
were
brought
up
during
the
hearing.
R
The
miss
pike
mentioned
curbside
composting.
I
do
want
to
just
let
you
know
that
that
would
cause
a
rate
increase,
because
it
would
be
hard
to
figure
out
who
is
composting.
Who
was
not
so
there
would
likely
be
a
rate
increase
at
least
republic
services
would
have
to
look
into
that
to
mr
ellison's
point
as
well.
We
do
worry
about
some
of
the
things
that
you've
mentioned.
Contamination
smells
and,
of
course,
where
these
composting
centers
would
be
located.
A
B
A
B
B
S
S
This
can
prevent
communities
from
implementing
composting
programs
where
these
narrow
parameters
may
not
be
the
best
fit
for
their
local
environmental
condition.
Local
environmental
conditions
or
community
d
also
defining
composting
in
statute
limits.
The
ability
of
the
state
environmental
commission
to
modify
the
composting
definition
and
regulation
in
the
future
to
encourage
composting
or
to
make
sure
that
composting
operations
are
operated
responsibly
and
don't
create
a
pollution
or
nuisance
concern
as
part
of
the
process
or
in
the
accumulation
of
compostable
materials.
S
A
Q
Thank
you
chair,
mr
lavon,
and
thank
you,
mr
lotto,
for
for
joining
us
on
the
government
affairs
committee.
Obviously,
throughout
the
throughout
today's
hearing,
we
heard
just
some
disagreement
about
perhaps
the
opposition
to
the
definition
of
composting,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
send
over
a
definition,
perhaps
that
the
nevada
division
of
environmental
protection
would
feel
would
be
more
appropriate
for,
for
that.
S
B
N
Good
morning,
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
theresa:
hayes,
r
e
s,
a
h,
a
y
e
s.
I
am
the
environmental
health
program
manager
for
the
nevada,
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health.
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
this
morning
in
regards
to
this
bill.
A
A
C
C
Chair
floors,
members
of
the
committee
on
government
affairs,
james
wernshall,
state,
senate
21.
Thank
you
for
spending
the
morning
talking
trash
with
me
and
the
point
is,
I
don't
think
these
are
trash
and
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
more,
I'm
scared.
I
would
try
to
assemble
them
and
dickman,
but
I'm
just
scared.
C
A
lot
of
good
can
come
out
of
food
waste
for
our
communities
in
urban
gardens
for
our
agriculturalists,
our
farmers,
many
parts
of
the
state.
I
know
my
part
of
the
state
has
very
challenging
soil
where,
as
we
heard,
dr
o'callaghan
speak,
trying
to
have
a
little
neighborhood
garden
or
community
garden
is
is
very,
very
difficult.
C
I
think
you
know.
We've
heard
that
this
bill
is
enabling
language
it
doesn't
force
any
county
or
city
to
do
anything.
However,
if
they'd
like
to
try
to
set
up
a
composting
program
with
community
composting,
they
would
be
able
to
we've
heard
that
the
definition
here
in
the
bill
which
I
pursued,
because
I
believe
that
had
the
least
consequences
to
neighbors
in
terms
of
odor
bugs
rodents.
C
Anything
like
that
does
not
override
the
definition
of
composing
than
about
administrative
code,
and
I
don't
believe
it
would
change
anything
in
terms
of
people
wanting
to
compost
with
other
methods
that
are
not
the
bokachi
method.
So
I
do
appreciate
your
time
and
I
hope
that
the
committee
would
would
think
about
this
bill
and,
if
I
could
give,
maybe
mr
lee
might
have
a
minute
or
two
to
jump
in
with
your
permission
chair.
Thank
you.
D
I
A
And
thank
you
again,
senator
warren
shaw
and
to
senator
donate.
I
know
you've
been
working
thoroughly
and
for
long
hours
with
the
opposition,
and
hopefully
we
can
continue
to
work
together
and
find
some
a
little
bit
more
middle
ground.
I
know
you've
moved
very
far
away
from
where
you
started,
but
I
appreciate
the
hard
work
so
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
out
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
349.
A
A
A
A
I
don't
want
to
bring
anybody
into
this
room
only
to
see
their
bill
die
and
embarrass
him
in
that
way.
It's
out
of
respect,
if
you
could
just
give
me
a
heads
up
if
there's
bills,
you
do
not
like
that's
fine,
you
don't
have
to
support
anything,
but
I
just
don't
want
to
bring
anybody
in
here.
Make
a
senator
run
out
of
a
meeting
make
their
way
up
into
the
committee
room,
and
then
we
tell
them
that
their
bill's
dead.
A
So
out
of
respect,
if
you
could
just
give
me
a
heads
up
with
that
members,
thank
you
for
all
the
work.
I
will
not
be
adding
anything
to
the
work
session
document,
but
based
on
your
feedback,
I
may
be
removing
things
from
the
work
session
document.
So
there
won't
be
any
surprises
about
anything.
That's
on
there.
That's
the
most
we'll
see,
but
we
may
have
to
remove
things
if
we
don't
have
the
votes
with
that.
This
meeting's.