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A
C
D
A
I
am
here
we
have
all
members
present.
I
thank
you
for
joining
us
here
today.
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
today's
meeting
for
the
assembly
committee
on
growth
and
infrastructure.
Today
we
will
hold
one
hearing
on
assembly
bill
179
and
we
will
have
a
very
enjoyable
presentation
before
we
begin
on
today's
meeting,
as
we
have
done
at
the
beginning
of
all
of
our
meetings.
A
All
of
our
meetings
are
virtual.
The
building
remains
closed
to
the
public,
so
all
the
committee
meetings
will
be
held
virtually
committing
members
staff
and
everyone
else
will
be
participating
either
through
zoom
or
by
phone.
For
the
members,
I
ask
that
you
turn
your
cell
phones
off
and
leave
your
cameras
on
for
the
participating
public.
A
You
can
comment,
have
public
comment
at
the
end
of
our
meeting
and
if
you'd
like
to
you,
can
also
submit
your
comments
to
us
in
writing
up
to
48
hours
after
today's
meeting
in
the
entrance
of
time
we
are
going
to
move
on
to
our
first
presenter
for
assembly,
bill
179
and
I
believe
mr
haven
assemblyman
haven
is
in
our
virtual
waiting
room
ready
to
present
the
floor.
Is
yours.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record
assemblyman
gregory
hathan
ii
representing
assembly
district
36,
which
encompasses
parts
of
clark,
lincoln
and
nye
counties.
I
am
here
to
present
assembly
bill
179
for
your
consideration.
Just
a
little
background
information
provided
by
the
nevada
department
of
veterans
services.
D
There
were
approximately
230
and
263
000
veterans
living
in
nevada
in
the
year
2020
between
105
and
120.
000
of
those
veterans
were
over
the
age
of
65
and
another
700
plus
describe
themselves
as
homeless.
D
While
parking
fees
may
not
represent
the
most
significant
barrier
to
accessing
any
of
these
services
and
supports,
I
have
mentioned,
they
do
represent
a
barrier.
Nonetheless,
waiving
parking
fees
for
veterans,
service
members
and
their
families
and
survivors
may
improve
their
access
to
needed
services
that
may,
in
turn
improve
their
quality
of
life.
D
Just
a
brief
summary
of
the
the
bill
as
it's
written,
existing
law
allows
for
special
license
plates
for
each
family.
Member
of
an
individual
who
was
either
killed
in
action
or
later
died
as
a
result
of
injuries
sustained
in
active
duty
in
the
armed
forces
of
the
united
states
as
originally
introduced.
D
Ab179
exempt
these
individuals
from
payment
of
any
parking
fees,
including
parking
meters
that
would
be
charged
by
the
state
or
other
local
body
veterans
with
service
connected
disability
and
recipients
of
the
purple
heart
award
are
also
provided.
This
exemption,
providing
that
they
display
the
appropriate
license
plate
on
their
vehicle,
and
I'd
like
to
draw
everybody's
attention
to
a
conceptual
amendment
that
I
have
proposed,
which
is
on
nellis,
and
it's
been
uploaded
with
a
couple
of
letters
of
of
support,
and
this
this
bill
originally
length.
D
The
original
language
drafted
included
the
gold
star
license
plates
and
the
fallen
military
license
plates,
and
the
amendment
is
to
address
the
additional
decorated
license
plates
that
nevada
currently
has
that
were
not
included
in
the
exemption
from
the
parking
fees,
and
that
includes
the
purple
heart
survivors,
I'm
sorry,
the
purple
heart
recipients,
the
pearl,
harbor
survivors,
the
congressional
medal
of
honor,
silver,
star,
bronze
stars
and
combat
distinguished
members,
and,
as
you
will
see
that
these
are
not
there's
not
a
lot
of
those
license
plates
out
there,
I
believe
the
fallen
military
is,
is
24
license
plates
that
are
in
the
state
of
nevada
as
of
january
of
2021,
and
the
largest
portion
of
the
license
plates
that
would
be
included
in
this
amendment
is
the
pearl
harbor
recipients,
which
is
just
over
1200,
license
plates
in
the
state
of
nevada.
D
There
are
currently
over
a
million
registered
vehicles,
and
so
the
pearl
harbor
recipients
account
for
0.12
of
all
of
the
registered
vehicles,
and
I
know
that
this
seems
like
a
very
small,
a
bill
for
a
very
small
group.
However,
these
are
individuals
that
have,
in
the
instance
of
the
gold
star
and
the
fallen
military,
given
the
ultimate
sacrifice
for
our
nation
and
our
state
in
our
purple.
D
So,
in
conclusion,
nevada
has
actually
been
waving.
A
number
of
the
decorated
plates
since
1977.
in
2015.
D
These
exemptions
for
waiving
the
parking
fees
were
expanded
to
additional
plates,
specifically
the
disabled,
purple,
heart
veterans
and
the
intention
of
ab1709
is
to
accommodate
and
extend
this
extension
to
all
of
the
decorated
license
plates
and
their
family
members
of
the
gold
star
and
fallen
military
and
madam
chair.
This
concludes
my
presentation.
D
I
I
also
have
online,
I
believe,
fred
wagner
the
deputy
director
of
nevada
department
of
veterans
services
and
sean
sever,
the
deputy
director
at
the
department
of
motor
vehicles.
We
are
all
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
assignment
hankin.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
First,
I'd
like
to
commend
your
efforts
to
recognize
our
veterans,
our
gold
star
families
and
those
who've
given
their
lives
to
support
our
country.
I
come
from
a
military
family,
and
so
I
sincerely
appreciate
having
the
opportunity
to
recognize
all
of
the
good
work
that
they've
done
to
give
us
the
freedoms
that
we
enjoy
today.
E
I
do
have
a
question
and
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
more
appropriate
for
our
representative,
mr
siever,
from
the
dmv,
and
it
really
is
just
about
the
quantity
you
talked
about.
The
quantity
of
plates.
I'm
curious
to
know
are
parking
fees,
an
issue
that
have
that's
popped
up.
Are
they?
Is
it
a
pervasive
issue
like?
Are
there
a
lot
of
fees
or
are
there
people
who
just
don't
can't
park,
maybe
because
of
accessibility
issues
in
certain
areas?
E
I'm
just
curious
to
know
where
the
where
this
came
from
originally.
D
And
and
madame
chair
through
you
to
assemblywoman
brownmay,
first
and
foremost
thank
you
and
your
family
for
their
service,
and-
and
this
actually
came
from
a
couple
of
constituents
of
mine
and
friends
of
actually
friends
and
neighbors
of
mine.
They're.
Both
are
purple
heart
recipients
and
they
ran
into
an
issue.
D
Both
of
them
are
considered
disabled
veterans,
as
well
as
the
purple
heart
recipients,
and
they
have
purple
heart
plates
on
their
vehicle,
and
they
were
under
the
impression
that
as
disabled
veterans,
they
could
receive
free
parking
and
happened
to
both
of
them.
They
went
to
the
airport
they
parked
for
a
week
and
they
ended
up
with
a
100
parking
bill
and
even
though
they
they
were
under
the
impression
that
their
parking
was
free
as
a
disabled
veteran.
D
And
so
they
brought
this
to
my
attention-
and
I
am
more
than
ecstatic
and
happy
to
to
bring
this
forward,
to
try
to
clarify
that
to
ensure
that
that
they
do
get
free
parking
when
they
they
go
to
the
airport
or
rather
places
that
the
city
or
counties
or
state
may
charge.
A
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
in
your
answer
you
mentioned
the
airport.
Have
you
spoken
with
the
reno
tahoe
airport,
with
mccarran
airport,
with
with
them
about
this
bill,
and
do
you
know
what
their
position
is
on
it.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
have
not
spoken
to
them
directly.
However,
we
have
received
the
fiscal
notes
from
all
the
different
agencies,
counties,
cities
and
all
the
fiscal
notes
have
come
back
at
zero.
A
Because
I
think,
on
the
onset,
if
someone
looks
at
it
and
thinks
about
parking,
you
kind
of
think
about
parking
in
the
city,
if
you're
going
shopping,
downtown
or
something
I
don't,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
airport
would
be
something
that
would
come
resonate
at
the
top
of
someone's
mind.
So
that
might
be
a
conversation
to
have
before
we
get
to
the
work
session
status
just
to
see
what
their
position
is.
It
may
be
different
from
the
city
or
the
county
because
they
have
their
own
airport
authority.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
My
question
is
no.
I
I,
although
I
would
love
to
grill
assemblyman
hayfin
on
this
bill.
I
I
think
it's
a
good.
It's
a
good.
It's
a
good
thing
for
veterans.
My
only
suggestion
on
the
amendment
is
is
a
request
to
be
added
to
the
bill
in
in,
in
part
with
your
proposed
amendment,.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chairman.
It
was
good
seeing
you
today.
I
I
too,
like
to
spill
a
lot
anything
we
can
do
to
to
help
and
represent
our
veterans.
I
think
that's
very,
very
important
thing
to
do
and
my
colleagues
that
spoke
earlier
said
you
know
we
owe
a
lot
to
our
veterans,
our
freedom,
our
freedom
of
speech,
this
building,
so
I'm
so
proud
to
to
see
this
bill.
But
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
G
G
D
Madam
chair,
through
you
to
assemblyman
allison,
that's
a
great
question
assemblyman,
and
I
am
one
that
believes
in
leading
by
example,
and
I
would
hope
that
the
private
facilities
would
follow
the
state's
example
here
and
would
offer
and
extend
the
same
benefit
to
these
decorated
veterans.
As
as
we're
proposing
here.
Obviously
we're
not
mandating
that,
but
I
do
believe
that
we
would
be
leading
by
example,
and
hopefully
they
would
follow
that
as
far
as
outreach.
D
I
know
that
I've
I've
talked
to
the
department
of
veterans
services
in
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
in
in
trying
to
help
spread.
D
The
word
that
dmv
has
informed
me
there's
as
soon
as
this
bill
is
passed
and
approved
that
they
would
update
their
website
to
ensure
that
that
was
there
and
they
currently
have
on
their
website
the
list
of
the
ones
that
are
exempt
from
the
parking,
and
it
should
be
a
very
small,
an
easy
adjustment
to
the
website
and
the
department
of
veterans
services,
as
well
as
a
number
of
the
other
veteran
organizations
have
offered
to
do
email,
blasts
and
social
media
to
to
get
the
word
out
on
this
new
benefit.
G
You
know
we
look
at
the
statues
and
everything
out
here,
but
that's
something
you
might
want
to
look
at
and
consider
in
the
future
also.
But
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
do
is
I'd
like
to
be
I'd
like
to
be
a
co-sponsor
on
this
bill.
Also,
if
you
may.
H
I'm
sorry,
I
wasn't
fast
enough
typing.
Thank
you
assemblyman
haven
for
bringing
this
bill.
I
think
most
people
know
at
this
point
that
my
husband
is
a
combat
veteran
and
we
are
one
of
the
lucky
families
that
he
is
whole
for
the
most
part,
but
my
heart
does
go
out
to
the
families
who
did
not
get
their
family
members
home
in
one
piece.
I
would
also
like
to
be
added
as
a
co-sponsor
to
the
bill,
if
possible,
and
thank
you
again.
A
I
am
not
seeing
any
other
members
with
questions,
but
as
a
child
of
military
veterans
and
my
father
suffering
long-term
consequences
from
his
service
to
our
country.
Before
his
passing.
I
thank
you
and
any
other
members
of
this
legislative
body
that
recognizes
the
sacrifices
that
so
many
of
our
family
members.
Our
constituents
have
made
to
ensure
that
we
have
the
freedom
that
we
enjoy
in
this
country
and
for
this
generation
and
and
the
rest.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
the
bill
and
with
that
we
will
ask
our
broadcast
staff.
C
C
I
I
They've
cast
their
blood
on
the
battlefields
of
the
world
for
the
united
states,
and
this
is
a
small
honor
to
help
them
get
to
their
doctor's
appointments
in
some
places
in
the
park
when
it's
sometimes
difficult
for
them.
So
the
three
groups
I
represent,
endorse
179
and
support
its
passage.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
C
C
I
I
I'm
sure
that
many
of
you,
as
you
already
have
expressed,
have
veterans
in
your
family
history
and
may
have
some
direct
experience
of
active
duty
military
service,
which
I've
also
heard
as
we
move
forward.
Please
remember
them.
The
family
sacrifices
the
commitment
to
serve
our
country
and
how
proudly
you
support
them.
All
we
really
want
to
do
is
very
best
for
them.
I
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
am
in
full
favor
of
this
bill,
ab-179
the
things
that
they
were
asking
for
and
for
this
committee
is
a
very,
very
small
price
to
pay
to
honor
and
and
and
show
respect
for
our
veterans
and
the
sacrifices
that
they've
made.
With
that,
I
appreciate
the
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
C
J
A
Amy
right
do
we
have
anyone
joining
us
here
on
zoom
that
would
like
to
testify
in
neutral.
J
Yes,
ma'am,
I'm
fred
wagner,
f-r-e-d
w-a-g-a-r
and
I'm
deputy
director
for
of
operations
for
nevada
department
of
veterans
services
and
I'm
here
to
testify
in
neutral
on
ab-179,
chairman
roman
reno.
Vice
chair
watson,
members
of
the
assembly
committee
on
growth
infrastructure,
as
we've
heard,
ab-179,
would
provide
an
exemption
of
parking
fees
for
vehicles
on
which
license
plates
issued
by
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
to
family
members
of
persons
killed
in
the
line
of
duty
or
died
as
a
result
of
injuries
sustained.
J
While
on
active
duty
in
the
armed
forces
of
the
united
states,
nevada
department
of
veterans
services
contacted
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
to
determine
how
many
of
these
specialized
license
plates
were
issued
in
the
state.
There
have
been
197
gold
star
family
license
plates
issued,
as
there
was
a
fiscal
note
provided
by
only
one
county.
We
also
requested
the
number
of
specialized
license
plates
issued
in
that
county
and
the
total
was
106
gold
star
family
specialized
license
plates
issued
for
that
county.
J
A
F
I
do
thank
you,
chair
sean
sever
from
the
dmv.
Mr
hafen
did
reach
out
to
us
on
this
bill
and
we
are
neutral
on
it.
It
has
indirect
impact
on
the
dmv.
F
We
just
really
make
the
license
plates
and,
as
he
mentioned,
we
will
do
do
some
social
media
posts
to
get
the
word
out
and
also
make
some
website
changes,
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
assemblyman
for
promoting
me
to
the
deputy
director
here
at
the
department
I'll
I'll
tell
the
my
boss,
who
is
the
deputy
director
to
clean
out
his
office
today
and
I'll
be
in
there
tomorrow.
C
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Mr
server.
I
was
just
wondering
if
so
we
got
some
information
on
the
gold
star
plates.
I
was
wondering
if
you
have-
and
I
know
you
may
need
to
crunch
some
numbers
on
this
with
the
amendment
provided
by
the
bill
sponsor.
Do
you
have
any
indication
of
what
the
total
number
of
of
plates
would
be
and
what
that
would
be
as
a
kind
of
a
percentage
of
the
plates
out
there
I'll
start
there.
F
C
C
I
know
I
think
city
of
las
vegas
used
a
10
estimate,
so
I
think,
having
some
of
that
information
and
in
a
percentage
form
from
the
department
may
may
help
when
this
is
evaluated
for
any
potential
fiscal
impacts
from
the
various
public
entities
that
have
parking
fees.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
I
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
else
on
joining
us
here
on
zoom
who
wishes
to
testify
in
the
neutral
and
no
one
else
on
the
phone.
So
I
will
ask
the
sponsor
of
the
bill
if
you'd
like
to
make
any
final
remarks.
D
It
is
approximately
1500
license
plates
out
of
1
million
52
571
registered
vehicles
in
the
state
of
nevada,
which
equates
to
roughly
0.1
percent
of
all
registered
vehicles
and
that
again
those
are
rough
numbers,
but
I'm
I'm
sure
the
dmv
can
provide
you
with
the
exact
numbers
and
again,
I'm
just
I'm
very
thankful
for
all
of
our
veterans
for
everything
that
they've
done
and
greatly
appreciate
the
time
today
to
present.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
midi.
A
Membership
brings
us
up
to
the
last
item,
our
presentation
today
on
our
agenda
and
we
have
the
rocky
mountain
institute
who
will
be
presenting
and
I
believe
we
have
miss,
rose
mckinney
james,
who
will
have
some
co-presenters.
She
will
introduce
her
co-presenters.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
and
welcome
to
our
committee.
K
Good
afternoon,
chair
monroe,
moreno
and
vice
chair
watts,
my
name
is
rose
mckinney
james,
I'm
the
managing
partner
of
mckay
james
and
associates,
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
join
you
today,
and
I
appreciate
your
invitation
to
introduce
my
colleagues
from
rmi
as
well
as
energy
innovations
and
by
way
of
background
for
some
of
the
new
members.
I
am
a
former
commissioner
with
the
nevada
public
service
commission.
K
Probably
now
too
many
or
more
than
I'd
like
to
recall,
it's
been
my
privilege
to
work
with
the
nevada
legislature
as
an
advocate
for
advancing
policy
supporting
clean
energy
and
climate,
and
the
work
that's
been
undertaken
by
this
committee
and
its
predecessors
has
resulted
in
significant
investment
in
the
deployment
and
development
of
renewable
resources
in
nevada.
And
we
are
now
recognized
as
a
leader
in
that
space
and
as
such,
I
think
it
must
be
acknowledged
that
we've
made
remarkable
progress.
K
That
said,
one
of
my
constant
challenges
as
an
advocate
has
been
the
ability
to
effectively
identify
and
embed
the
necessary
data
and
analytics
required
to
support
the
various
policy
proposals
that
have
come
before
you
last
session.
We
were
able
to
secure
former
governor
bill
ritter,
who
is
the
director
of
the
center
for
new
energy
economy
at
the
colorado
state
university.
K
He
came
and
was
able
to
address
the
committee
and
provide
additional
resources
to
individual
legislators.
It
is
said
that
what
gets
measured
gets
done
in
an
effort
to
provide
the
legislature
with
the
benefit
of
some
additional
expert
guidance.
It
is
my
pleasure
to
introduce
robbie
orvis
and
dr
zach
zubin.
K
Mr
orvis
is
the
director
of
energy
policy
design
at
energy
innovation.
This
is
an
energy
policy,
think
tank.
He
leads
energy
innovations,
modeling
and
analysis
using
the
energy
policy
simulator
and
is
an
expert
on
energy
policy
design.
Having
worked
with
dozens
of
policy
makers
in
the
united
states
and
abroad
to
estimate
policy
impacts,
he's
also
co-author
of
designing
climate
solutions,
a
policy
guide
for
low-carbon
energy.
K
L
Thank
you
rose
and
chair
monroe
moreno.
This
is
robbie
orvis
with
energy
innovation.
I'm
going
to
share
a
presentation
today
and
then
show
some
of
the
results
from
our
modeling
online.
L
It
allows
users
anyone
who
wants
to
use
it
to
build
policy
scenarios
and
to
look
at
the
combined
impacts
of
different
policies
on
emissions
and
economic
impacts
like
jobs
and
gdp.
Outputs
the
model
is
free,
public
and
open
source.
It's
available
online
today
at
the
link
included
here
nevada.energypolicy.solutions
and
shortly
we
will
explore
the
model
online
and
some
of
our
preliminary
findings.
L
The
model
is
based
entirely
on
publicly
available
data,
including
from
sources
like
the
u.s
energy
information
administration,
the
national
renewable
energy
lab
and
a
handful
of
national
labs
across
the
united
states.
The
model
has
been
reviewed
by
a
handful
of
national
labs
universities
and
partner
organizations
as
well,
and
in
the
case
of
the
nevada
energy
policy
simulator.
We
coordinated
and
received
input
from
the
nevada,
dep
and
other
state
stakeholders
in
building
out
our
policy
scenarios.
L
The
energy
policy
simulator
is
available
for
eight
countries
and
many
states,
including
the
united
states,
china,
india,
indonesia
and
so
on.
We
currently
have
models
covering
california,
nevada,
colorado,
minnesota
and
virginia
with
forthcoming
models
and
another
half
dozen
or
so
states,
and
again
all
of
these
models
are
publicly
available
and
accessible
online.
L
Briefly,
the
just
an
overview
of
how
the
energy
policy
simulator
works.
We
start
by
taking
energy
and
service
demand,
that's
things
like
passenger
travel
or
demand
for
heating
and
cooling
in
buildings
from
other
models
which
serves
as
our
baseline.
When
we
look
out
to
2050,
we
then
take
in
information
on
current
and
future
costs
and
prices
for
things
like
electric
cars,
solar
panels,
natural
gas
power
plants
and
so
on
that
all
gets
incorporated
into
the
model
in
a
business
is
usual
projection
out
to
2050..
L
L
The
energy
policy
simulator
is
an
economy-wide
model,
so
it
covers
the
three
main
demand
sectors,
transportation,
buildings
and
industry
and
agriculture.
It
has
an
electricity
sector
which
builds
and
dispatches
power
plants
to
meet
electricity
demand.
We
also
track
use
of
district
heat
and
hydrogen.
Where
that's
used
in
decarbonization
scenarios,
we
have
what's
called
carbon
capture
and
sequestration.
This
is
a
technology
that
captures
carbon
dioxide
emissions
from
power
plants
and
industrial
processes
and
stores
that
carbon.
L
L
We
track
four
greenhouse
gases,
but
we
also
track
other
pollutants
that
are
associated
with
health
impacts
such
as
particulates,
sulfur
oxides
and
nitrogen
oxides,
and
using
that
information
we
can
estimate
changes
in
health
outcomes
such
as
avoided,
premature
mortality
from
air
pollution
and
also
morbidity,
related
outcomes,
which
are
things
like
avoided.
Asthma,
attacks,
hospital
admissions
and
so
on.
L
The
nevada
eps
is
publicly
available
to
help
nevada
flesh
out
its
climate
strategy,
and
it's
worth
mentioning
here
that
the
tool
was
noted
in
the
climate
strategy
report
as
one
model
that
could
be
used
to
evaluate
the
state's
priorities.
L
L
So
the
tool
is
available
online
now
at
nevada.energypolicy.solutions,
and
this
is
the
landing
page
when
you
are
there
and
I'm
just
going
to
hit
on
hit
enter
simulator
to
start
running
the
tool.
Now
the
tool
is
running
in
real
time
on
the
server
and
what
we're
looking
at
here
is
emissions
of
carbon
dioxide
equivalent.
That's
all
greenhouse
gases
and
we're
looking
at
the
total,
including
land
use
emissions
in
nevada,
and
we
have
this
red
line
here.
L
This
red
line
is
meant
to
be
inclusive
of
legislated
policies
as
of
2020,
so
things
that
are
goals
or
ambitions
or
targets
are
not
included
in
this
scenario.
By
default,
there's
over
200
different
pieces
of
information.
We
could
look
at
on
an
online
tool
and
I'm
obviously
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
those,
but
just
to
flip
over
to
one
here,
if
you
were
interested
to
see
what
the
different
sectors
contribute
to
emissions
in
nevada.
L
The
main
way,
though,
that
you
work
with
the
tool
is
to
evaluate
what
different
policies
will
do
to
emissions,
and
you
do
that
over
here.
On
the
left
hand,
side
policies
are
organized
here
by
sector,
so,
for
example,
in
the
transportation
sector,
that's
where
you
would
find
things
like
an
electric
vehicle
sales
standard
or
an
electric
vehicle
subsidy
or
so
on,
and
you
can
turn
on
and
off
policies
here,
and
you
can
turn
on
and
off.
L
First
is
that
without
additional
policy,
we
find
that
nevada's
greenhouse
gas
emissions
will
actually
remain
relatively
constant
and
actually
are
likely
to
grow
through
2050..
So
in
order
to
hit
some
of
the
state
targets,
additional
action
is
needed.
L
This
is
a
downscaled
version
of
a
national
scenario
for
the
united
states
that
reflects
policy
ambition,
aligned
with
meeting
the
targets
outlined
by
the
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change
for
what's
needed
for
a
safe
climate
of
future.
It
includes
about
20
different
policies,
all
of
which
are
combining
to
drive
down
emissions
here.
L
L
That's
what
this
chart
is
doing
here,
so
the
top
line.
We
have
our
business
as
usual,
and
the
bottom
line
we
have
our
new
emissions
trajectory
and
now
the
area
in
between
is
filled
in
with
colored
wedges.
The
colors
correspond
to
sectors
of
the
economy.
So
red
is
transportation.
This
aqua
here
is
buildings.
Gold
and
yellow
is
electricity,
blue
is
industry,
green
is
land
use
and
orange
here's
a
hydrogen
supply,
so
one
thing
we
see
here
is
that
no
single
policy
across
the
entire
economy
can
cut
emissions
to
the
deep
emissions
levels.
L
We're
talking
about
the
other
thing
is
we
can
see
that
there
are
certain
policies
that
do
a
lot
of
the
work.
In
this
scenario,
one
of
those
is
a
clean
electricity
standard,
which
is
this
large
yellow
wedge
here.
Another
would
be
electrifying
building
heating,
space,
heating
and
water
heating,
which
is
this
building
electrification
wedge
here,
electrifying
vehicles.
We
do
that
here
through
an
electric
vehicle
sales
standard.
L
There's
another
graph
here
that
shows
something
similar,
which
is
how
cost
effective
these
different
policies
are
without
going
into
too
much
detail
here.
What
we're
seeing
is
that,
on
average,
we're
finding
this
policy
package
is
cost
effective
with
a
handful
of
policies
actually
resulting
in
cost
savings.
So
these
are
things
that
improve
the
efficiency
of
newly
sold
technologies,
for
example
like
vehicle
fuel
efficiency
standards.
L
We
also
find
significant
economic
benefits
from
this
policy
scenario,
so
I'm
going
to
show
here
the
change
in
jobs,
so
we
actually
find
that
transitioning
to
a
low-carbon
economy.
It
doesn't
eliminate
jobs.
It
actually
is
a
large
job
creator
here
we're
seeing
about
5
000
jobs
being
caused
per
year
as
a
result
of
this
policy
scenario,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
transitioning
to
a
low-carbon
economy
requires
building
and
deploying
a
lot
of
new
technology,
and
those
are
all
things
that
create
jobs.
L
L
So
we
find
that
implementing
this
policy
would
have
would
avoid
more
than
500
premature
deaths
per
year
in
2050
as
a
result
from
avoided
air
pollution
and
as
well
as
a
lot
of
benefits
to
other
health
indicators
such
as
avoided
asthma
attacks,
where
we
find
more
than
16
000
avoided
asthma
attacks
per
year
in
2050
and
so
on.
L
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
This
is
a
really
interesting
tool
and
I
look
forward
to
spending
some
time
playing
around
with
it
and
it's
great
to
see
that
you
have
an
analysis
of
both
the
some
of
the
financial
impacts
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
impacts
like
health.
C
So
one
of
the
questions
I
had
is
you
know,
and
this
comes
up
in
discussions
around
the
social
cost
of
carbon
pollution,
so
I
was
just
wondering
you
touched
briefly
on
cost
effectiveness.
Does
that
include
the
financial
costs
of
some
of
those
avoided
health
impacts
like
deaths
and
hospital
visits,
and
things
like
that?
C
Could
you
just
speak
a
little
bit
to
that?
I
I
saw
there
was
a
lot
of
different
tabs
in
there.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
elaborate
on
some
of
the
you
know
the
difference
between
actual
cost
savings
from
efficiency
and
then
cost
savings
from
avoiding
some
of
the
consequences
of
the
pollution
itself.
L
Sure,
thank
you
vice
chair
watts.
This
is
robbie
orvis
with
energy
innovation.
So,
yes,
we
do
include
that
information
as
well.
I
didn't
show
it,
but
we
have
what
are
called
monetized
social
benefits
and
those
are
the
the
kind
of
the
monetized
values,
in
particular,
of
the
avoided
climate
damages
at
the
social
cost
of
carbon
and
also
the
avoided
premature
mortality,
and
for
that
we
use
the
environmental
protection
agency's.
L
What's
called
a
value
of
a
statistical
life,
which
is
how
they
value
avoided.
Premature
mortality
in
regulatory
impact
analyses
so
that
information
is
included
as
well.
What
I
presented
was
just
the
actual
economic
fuel
and
capital
cost
savings,
but
if
you
add
in
the
social
benefits
as
well,
the
policy
scenario
becomes
even
more
positive
in
terms
of
benefits
and
cost
savings.
C
L
F
You,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
soros
for
the
presentation
when
you
were
going
through
your
scaling,
and
you
talked
about
job
creation
and
gdp
increase.
Does
your
model
include
any?
F
Is
that
a
net
gain
because
inherently
there
will
be
some
jobs
lost
if
you
transition
to
a
different
way
of
doing
things,
and
also
some
some
gdp
loss
in
accordance
with
that?
So
I
just
was
curious
if,
if
your
your
model
took
that
into
consideration
when
you're,
when
you're,
when
you're,
when
you're
talking
about
job
creation,
if
that's
a
net
gain
or
if
it's
a
you
know
it
if
it
would
be
a
net
wash
if
it
would
be
a
decrease
when
you,
when
you
take
all
those
those
factors
into
consideration,.
L
All
right,
thank
you,
assemblyman
levitt,
and
this
is
robbie
orvis
with
energy
innovation.
So,
yes,
the
jobs
and
gdp
impacts
are
net.
So
within
the
tool
itself,
we
have,
I
think,
25
different
sectors
where
we
track
employment,
changes
and
gdp
changes.
So
the
value
you're,
seeing
there
that
4
500
is
net
of
all
of
the
job
gains
in
certain
parts
of
the
economy,
as
well
as
job
losses
in
other
parts
of
the
economy.
L
Yes,
that's
right,
it's
it's
both
for
the
jobs
and
the
gdp,
all
of
which
comes
out
of
what's
called
an
input
output
model
that
is
in
our
tool
that
model
tracks
net
changes
across
the
different
sectors
in
determining
both
job
and
gdp,
changes.
M
M
Can
you
go
back
to
that
and
give
some
background
on
just
so
some
some
foundational
information
like
how
many
vehicles
are
you
all
proposing
are
being
replaced
per
year?
How
are
you
what's
your
basis?
How
are
you
coming
up
with,
with
with
some
of
that
it's
my
first
question.
L
Sure,
thank
you
assemblywoman,
so
this
robbie
orvis
with
energy
innovation.
So
what
that
graph
was
showing
was
sales
of
different
types
of
vehicles
in
the
policy
scenario
that
that
I
showed
we
are
not
looking
at
preemptively
removing
people's
cars,
we're
just
looking
at
how
people's
purchases
of
new
cars
when
they're
ready
to
purchase
new
cars
change.
So
the
policy
that
we
have
modeled
is
a
what's
called
a
sales
standard.
L
So,
basically,
when,
when
people
go
to
the
dealership
to
buy
a
new
car,
that
particular
policy
would
change,
kind
of
which
types
of
cars
are
available
and
what
the
costs
of
those
different
cars
are
in
order
to
meet
statewide
standards
similar
to
other
what
are
often
called
zev
standards
in
some
other
states
around
the
country.
M
I'm
sorry,
madam
chair,
I'm
sorry
for
interrupting
sarah,
I'm
sorry,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
you're
doing
like
a
one-for-one
like
what
you're
saying
is
if,
if
someone
was
buying
a
truck,
if
you
like,
on
average,
if
you,
if
we
sell
so
many
trucks
a
year
in
a
particular
price
range,
you're,
doing
a
one
for
one
of
what
it
would
what's
available
and
how
many
trucks
could
be
purchased
in
that
price
range
with
available
technology
and
stock,
that's
available
in
an
electric
vehicle
comparison,
a
comparable
model.
Am
I
correct.
L
That's
correct
and
where
that
policy
phases
in
so
it's
not
that
tomorrow,
100
of
vehicles
would
have
to
be
electric.
We
phase
it
in
to
allow
time
for
some
of
what
you're
talking
about
the
different
vehicle
classes
and
technologies
for
more
options
for
those
vehicles
to
become
available.
So
in
this
policy
scenario
by
2035,
100
percent
of
new
vehicles
sold
new
light
duty
vehicles
sold
are
electric,
but
we
phase
that
in
between
now
and
2035.
A
I
have
a
few,
for
you
seems
like
it's
going
to
be
a
fun
tool
to
play
around
with,
especially
for
someone
who's,
not
a
scientist
or
a
guru
in
this
area.
They
can
go
on
and
it
seems
like
an
easy
tool
to
navigate,
but
I,
as
new
policies
come
out
and
new
technologies
come
on
board.
L
Thank
you,
chair
monroe
moreno,
so
that's
a
a
great
question
and
one
we
get
asked
a
lot
and
so
that
our
this
tool
is
a
constant
work
in
progress.
If,
as
anyone
who's
worked
on
software
knows,
you're
never
actually
done,
you
just
continually
are
improving
and
redeveloping.
So
we
continue
to
add
new
policies
as
they
come
up
and
we
continue
to
add
new
technologies
as
they
come
up
and
when
we
started
developing
this
tool
in
2012.
L
Even
then,
the
technology
options
available
were
very
different
and
since
then
we've
continuously
added
new
technologies
and
policies.
So
we
have
a
process
for
soliciting
ideas
and
requests
to
the
tool,
and
we
we
revisit
that
semi-annually
and
roll
out
new
features
both
including
technologies
and
policies
based
on
kind
of
what's
needed
and
what's
out
there.
A
And
then
my
next
question
would
be:
have
you
taken
into
account
the
expected
cost
reductions
and
things
such
like
battery
storage,
that
information
that
you
have
you've
got
about
that
and
this
this
tool
is
free,
now
correct
and
will
remain
free.
L
Thank
you,
chairwoman.
So
yes,
the
the
tool
is
free
and
open
source
and
will
remain
so.
It
is
our
it's
one
of
the
flagship
things
we
do
at
energy
innovation
to
produce
these
tools
and
make
them
free
and
available
to
the
community.
So
that
will
always
be
the
case
in
regards
to
your
question
on
costs.
L
Yes,
the
model
includes
cost
declines
for
things
like
batteries,
solar
panels,
both
onshore
and
offshore
wind,
offshore,
obviously
less
important
in
nevada,
but
the
model
does
include
cost
declines
for
all
of
those
new
technologies
and
those
are
based
on
a
mix
of
the
global
deployment
of
those
things
in
projected
deployment,
as
well
as
how
policies
affect
deployment
of
those
different
technologies
within
nevada.
So
if
policies
would
accelerate
deployment
of
certain
technology
that
can
actually
drive
down
the
cost
further
in
later
years,.
G
Thank
you,
man
and
sharon,
and-
and
I
really
appreciate
some
of
the
questions
that
popped
up
there
and
one
was
about
the
vehicles
and
and
tracking
them.
You
know,
for
I
don't
know
how
many
years
it's
going
to
take
for
bigger
trucks
to
come
on
board,
because
we
asked
that
question
in
another
meeting
because
it's
you
know
you
might
have
battery
trucks,
but
you
got
to
have
trucks
that
can
pull
the
power
that
would
still
be
able
to
hold
the
batteries
from
here
to
salt
lake
city.
G
L
Thank
you
thank
you
assembly,
member
ellison,
so
we
follow
the
lead
of
the
california
advanced,
clean
trucks.
Rule
the
california.
Air
resources
board
has
done
quite
a
bit
of
research,
looking
at
different
technology
options
for
heavy-duty
trucking
and
what
they've
concluded
and
what
the
state's
goal
is
is
a
hundred
percent
of
sales
of
heavy
and
medium
duty,
trucks
to
be
electric
or
to
be
zero
emissions
vehicles.
I
would,
I
should
say,
leaving
open
the
option
for
what
the
technology
is
by
by
2045..
G
Follow
up
madam,
go
ahead,
and
apparently
you've
got
a
lot
of
knowledge
in
this,
but
do
they
have
any
idea
by
the
time
that
comes
around?
You
have
any
idea
what
the
distance
travel
could
be
on
one
of
them.
You
know
because
there's
a
lot
of
large
pickups
here,
not
pickup
pickups,
but
like
250s
or
350,
diesels
or
regular
trucks.
G
It
still
carries
a
lot
of
load
like
you
know,
for
tractors
or
trailers
or
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
but
it
seemed
like
to
me
as
is
well
the
technology
for
even
the
semis
come
up
to
the
speed
to
where
they
can
go
them
distances
that
you
know
they
they
have
to
be
on
the
roads.
That
long,
do
you
think
that's
going
to
happen
in
45
by
45.
L
Thank
you,
assemblymember
ellison.
I
will
confess
that
I
am
not
as
advanced
an
expert
on
heavy
duty,
trucking
electrification
as
some
of
the
folks
at
the
air
resources
board.
So
I
would
defer
to
what
other
experts
in
the
field
think
is
possible,
but
I,
given
the
research
I've
seen
out
of
groups
like
the
air
resources
board,
I
do
feel
personally,
like
those
technologies
are
very
likely
to
become
available.
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
This
is
zach
stuben
for
the
record
yeah.
I
would
echo
my
colleague,
robbie
orpis's
comments.
Also
note:
there
are
some
other
options,
besides
purely
electric
for
some
of
the
bigger
trucks,
for
instance,
there's
research
into
having
hydrogen
fuel
cell
trucks
as
a
different
option.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
this
tool.
It's
really
fascinating
and
amazing.
My
question
is
hopefully
relatively
simple:
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
guys
have
put
access
to
your
assumptions
in
here
a
list
of
the
assumptions
that
you've
made
for
your
different
policy
models.
L
Yes,
thank
you
assemblywoman
peter,
so
that
information
is
included
in
there
in
the
documentation
online,
there's
actually
a
file.
That
is,
I
think,
it's
called
nevada,
eps
policy
assumptions
that
includes
all
of
the
major
assumptions
in
our
scenarios,
as
well
as
identification
of
the
key
data
sources.
We
use.
We
use
hundreds
of
data
sources,
but
there
are
a
few
in
particular
that
are
especially
important
and
critical,
and
those
are
all
outlined
in
that
document
as
well.
H
Could
you
send
that
to
the
committee
chair?
Sorry
not
chaired
staff
to
get
out
to
the
rest
of
us,
so
we
have
quick
access
to
that.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
So
much
for
the
presentation
miss
mckinney
james.
Did
you
have
anything
you
wanted
to
say
to
wrap
this
up.
K
I
am
just
grateful,
rose
beanie
james
for
the
record,
just
grateful
for
the
opportunity
and
appreciate
it
very
much
really
appreciated
all
the
questions,
and
I
think
we
have
a
basis
for
having
some
ongoing
conversations.
So
thanks
again
and
look
forward
to
seeing
you
sometime
soon.