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A
B
A
And
I
am
here
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
today's
meeting.
Today
we
will
hear
one
bill
and
we
will
have
a
work
session
on
six
previously
heard
measures
before
this
committee.
Before
we
get
started.
As
most
people
know,
the
building
is
open
on
a
limited
basis.
This
is
the
first
day
that
all
nine
of
our
seats
have
been
spoken
for
so
yay
there's
people
with
us,
but
we
still
have
people
joining
us
virtually,
and
we
welcome
you
to
our
committee.
A
D
The
bill
addresses
targets
for
energy
storage
and
contractor
qualifications
for
energy
storage
installations.
I'm
pleased
to
be
joined
by
hunter
stern
from
ibew
1245
will
adler
from
silver
state
government
relations
and
bob
johnston,
who
is
a
policy
analyst
analyst
for
energy
who
will
provide
additional
information
on
energy
storage?
D
This
bill
addresses
two
issues:
increasing
nevada's
energy
storage
capacity
and
ensuring
installation
of
energy
storage
systems
is
done
safely
and
correctly,
as
you
may
recall,
in
senate
bill
204
in
the
2017
session,
directed
the
public
utilities
commission
to
do
a
cost-benefit
analysis
on
targets
for
energy
storage
capacity
and
is
at
biennial
targets.
If
the
benefits
outweighed
the
costs,
analysts
resulted
in
the
commission
setting
biennial
targets
of
100
megawatts
in
2020
and
increasing
up
to
a
thousand
megawatts
in
2030.
D
D
D
The
other
part
of
the
bill
focuses
on
qualifications
needed
for
the
installation
of
commercial
or
industrial
energy
storage
systems,
as
you
will
hear
from
mr
stern
energy
storage
systems
can
pose
a
fire
danger
and
cause
other
problems
if
not
properly
installed.
So
it
is
important
that
we
update
the
qualifications
for
contractors
working
on
these
projects.
D
D
A
D
Shifting
gears
now
section
5
adds
new
sec
adds
a
new
section
to
chapter
624
of
the
nrs,
which
states
that
a
contractor
must
hold
a
valid
license
in
the
classification
required
for
the
installation
of
an
energy
storage
system,
in
addition
to
the
required
license.
Classifications
set
by
the
state
contractor's
board
section
5
also
recalls
re
requires
an
installer
of
energy
storage
systems
to
have
completed
the
energy,
storage
and
micro
grid
trends,
training
and
certification
program.
But
only
if
the
project
is
not-
and
I
want
to
reiterate
not
on
residential
property.
D
Section
6
and
7
incorporate
these
new
standards
into
the
regulatory
provisions
of
chapter
624,
as
administered
by
the
state
contractors
board.
Going
back
to
the
energy
storage
targets.
7
point
section:
7.5
directs
the
public
utilities
commission
to
re-evaluate
the
current
targets
based
on
the
2021
integrated
resource
plan
recently
filed
by
our
largest
electrical
utility
and
to
revise
the
targets
as
appropriate
in
the
public
interest.
D
In
closing,
I
believe
this
bill
will
fill
a
gap
in
contractor
qualifications
for
installers
of
commercial
energy
storage
systems
and
will
also
speed
up
the
re-evaluate
a
re-evaluation
of
our
energy
storage
targets
based
on
current
technology
and
costs.
Both
are
important
steps
toward
increasing
our
state's
energy
storage
capacity
and
complementing
our
efforts
to
fight
climate
change
and
provide
sustainability
provision
of
electricity
to
our
citizens.
D
E
Jackson,
good
afternoon,
chair
monroe,
moreno
vice
chair
watts
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
bob
johnston.
I'm
a
policy
advisor
to
the
nevada
senate
democratic
caucus,
I'm
here
to
provide
a
little
history
on
energy
storage
and
legislative
action
and
commission
action
on
energy
storage
prior
to
this
session.
E
E
The
targets
start
at
100
megawatts
in
2020,
go
to
200
megawatts
in
2022
and
then
increase
in
200
megawatt
increments
up
to
a
thousand
megawatts
in
2030..
Those
regulations
also
provide
for
the
commission's
review
and
modification
of
those
biennial
targets
as
necessary
since
the
passage
of
sp204,
the
cost
of
battery
energy
storage
systems
has
come
down
dramatically.
E
E
E
energy
storage
systems
can
provide
flexible
near
instantaneous
capacity
for
the
electricity
grid.
The
clearest
use
case
in
nevada
is
using
this
storage
to
capture
mid-morning
solar
energy
at
a
time
of
low
demand
on
nv
energy
system
and
save
that
renewable
energy
for
use
in
the
late
afternoon
and
early
evening
when
system
demand
is
high,
but
solar
generation
is
declining,
and
you
may
have
many
of
you
may
have
heard
about
this
in
california.
E
Nv
energy
has
taken
full
advantage
of
the
price
declines
we've
seen
in
battery
energy
storage
systems
and
has,
in
the
last
three
years
brought
forward
nine
different
utility
scale.
Combined
solar
plus
storage
projects
sometimes
referred
to
as
hybrid
projects
that
have
been
approved
by
the
commission
and
are
scheduled
to
come
online
over
the
next
three
years.
E
Given
these
events,
since
the
passage
of
sb
204,
section
7.5
of
the
bill
as
summarized
by
senator
lang,
requires
the
commission
to
re-evaluate
the
storage
targets
and
make
any
revisions
determined
by
the
commission
to
be
in
the
public
interest.
Section.
7.5
also
requires
a
report
back
to
the
legislature
on
the
results
of
that
reevaluation
on
or
before
november
1
2022..
A
F
F
So
I
wanted
to
talk
about
to
follow
up
senator
lang's
statements
on
the
training
and
safety
aspects
of
this
bill.
Specifically,
the
esam
tac
is
a
national
training
program,
that's
set
to
which
educates
electricians
to
properly
install
and
service
and
maintain
energy
storage
systems
in
a
safe
and
and
reliable
way.
F
F
Lithium-Ion
batteries
are
a
very
effective
and
efficient
energy
storage
technology,
but
they
also
come
with
some
risk,
and
the
particular
risk
that's
involved
is
is
what
we
call
in
our
industry,
thermal
runaway.
In
other
words,
the
battery
itself
becomes
overly
heated
either
through
a
malfunction.
Maybe
a
equipment,
error
or
maybe
improper
installation,
and
it
begins
to
discharge,
and
it
begins
discharge
at
high
temperature
and
the
result
is
fire.
F
So
these
are
particular
systems
which
have
the
potential,
even
though
they
do
very,
very
good.
They
have
the
potential
to
do
very
bad.
We've
spoken
with
the
firefighters
and
some
of
the
fire
districts.
Part
of
the
assurance
in
in
installation
and
maintenance
of
these
of
this
equipment
is
this
training
program
esemtac.
F
We
have
also
put
in
a
phased-in
approach
so
that
there
will
be
time
for
customers
and
users
of
the
this
storage
commercial
on
the
commercial
side,
as
well
as
taking
some
amendments
from
the
original
draft
to
ensure
that
it's
clear
that
large-scale
installation
are
still
the
purview
of
general
engineering
requirements
based
on
the
contractor's
board
comments
and
to
ensure
that
those
large
projects
are
in
no
way
changed
or
altered,
based
on
the
existing
the
projects
that
mr
johnston
outlined.
F
But
there
is
some
value
more
than
some
value,
there's
value
to
requiring
this
training
to
ensure
that
the
people,
because
these
these
are
relatively
new
pieces
of
equipment,
they
create
a
new
electrical
environment
once
the
equipment
is
installed
and
up
and
running,
it
is
literally
part
of
the
grid,
and
it
creates
a
safety
hazard
for
any
firefighters
who
might
be
responding
to
fire
or
utility
workers
or
members
and
members
at
local
396
down
south
who
might
be
responding
to
some
kind
of
outage
or
other
problem
and
have
a
back
feed
from
the
from
this
equipment
out
onto
the
street.
F
So
that's
the
goal
and
and
purpose
of
of
the
of
the
safety
rules
and
the
esemtech
training.
We
have
had
lots
of
inquiries
about
the
availability
of
training
and
and
to
make
sure
that
there
will
be
enough
training
to
ensure
that
people
can
get
out
and
install.
This
would
not
interrupt
or
somehow
undermine
the
commercial
activity.
F
Full
classes
can
be
can
now
be
attended
by
electricians,
since
the
bill
was
was
drafted
and
released,
there's
been
two
classes
in
the
north
and
one
class
in
the
south,
and
both
training
centers
have
assured
the
senator,
and
I
can
assure
you
that,
as
needed,
these
these
classes
will
be
increased.
In
other
words,
if
there's
a
demand,
we
can
meet
the
demand
and
the
the
cost
is
minimal
and
the
availability
is
is
as
needed.
F
I
also
wanted
to
mention
a
couple
of
other
points,
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
off
track,
but
also
in
in
terms
of
safety
and
reliability
of
the
of
the
equipment,
but
in
terms
of
the
value
of
energy
storage
in
general
sort
of
but
butts,
are
seeing
what
mr
johnston
said.
There
are
a
number
of
different
technologies
right
now,
as
I
said,
lithium-ion
is
the
dominant
technology.
F
We
have
great
benefits
there
are.
There
is
lithium
in
nevada,
there's
also
a
technology
or
technique
to
extract
lithium
from
geothermal
resources
that
hasn't
been
reduced
to
practice
yet,
but
there
are
two
different
planned
attempts,
and
this
also
could
be
a
benefit
to
the
state.
But
there
are
other
longer
to
address
the
problems
that
mr
johnson
identified
over
in
california.
D
Sorry,
madam
chair,
that
concludes
our
presentation.
We're
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Hunter
stern
will
answer,
questions
related
to
the
training
and
logistical
stuff
for
the
workers,
and
bob
johnston
will
answer
policy
questions.
A
Well,
I
will
just
start
with
the
first
question
on
the
members
have
before
them
the
mock-up
for
the
proposed
amendment.
Can
you
let
us
know
how
you
got
to
this
amendment?
It
came
just
before
the
the
committee
meeting,
it's
quite
different
than
the
the
bill
that
I
believe
most
members,
probably
read
last
night
or
or
two
days
ago,
before
this
meeting.
How
did
we
get
to
this
amendment
instead
of
what
was
originally
proposed.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
great
question.
As
you
know,
bills
evolve
and
we've
been
meeting
with
stakeholders
since
the
start
of
the
when
we
first
put
the
bill
in,
and
so
we,
after
talking
with
our
stakeholders,
decided
to
take
out
residential
solar.
D
They
were
at
a
place
where
this
wasn't
we'd
love
for
them
to
have
the
training,
but
it
wasn't
a
place
where
we
could
agree
on
the
training
and
and
being
able
to
implement
that.
So
for
this
time
we
took
out
residential
and
concentrated
on
the
bigger
projects
we
met
with
amber,
enter
nb
energy
in
southwest
gas
and
just
last
night
came
to
agreement
on
some
of
the
language.
So
that's
why
the
bill
has
changed
a
bit
from
yesterday
till
today,
when
we
got
the
final
amended
version.
A
Thank
you.
I
think
siblingman
roberts
has
a
question.
G
Thank
you,
ma'am
chair
and
thanks
for
bringing
the
bill
forward.
I
appreciate
the
amendment
changes.
My
question
is
really
for
mr
stern,
more
than
anything
regarding
the
training
program
and
as
he
walks
up
and
you
you
covered
a
lot
of
it
during
during
your
presentation.
You
know
about
the
program
and
I'm
just
curious.
Is
there
another
training
program?
That's
out
there,
that's
comparable
in
the
country
and
why
this.
F
D
F
We're
all
reminded
how
to
how
to
act
in
person.
First
thing
check
the
mic:
hunter
stern,
ibw,
local
1245..
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Now.
Let
me
let
me
start
with
my
answer
again.
The
answer
is
that
there
is
not
at
this
point
or
at
this
time,
another
comparable
national
program
to
esamtack,
mostly
because
this
is
still
relatively
new
technology
and
its
utilization,
in
particular,
commercial
environments
or
commercial
buildings,
is
still
very
new
and
there
have
been
some
consternation
nationally.
H
G
And
and
thank
thank
you,
I
appreciate
it
and
just
a
quick
follow-up
venture,
and
so
you
mentioned
the
training
and
the
the
capacity
and
and
now
you
may
have
said
it
and
I
missed
it,
but
you
know
how
long
is
the
is
the
training
and
is
in
the
price
for
the
courses
you
you
said
were
relatively
inexpensive,
who
controls
the
pricing
on
that?
Is
that
something
that
the
national
certification
kind
of
tells
you?
You
can
only
charge
x
amount
of
dollars?
Could
you
explain
that?
Yes,
absolutely.
F
Starting
with
the
pricing,
it's
125
per
person
per
course,
and
the
training
is
basically
eight
days
typically
two
days
a
week
for
a
four-week
period,
but
they
are
full
days.
If
I
remember
correctly-
and
I
think
I
do-
there
are
16
different
labs.
Although
I'm
going
to
look
back
to
my
colleague.
F
With
some
of
the
detail,
with
the
syllabus
and
and
the
labs
which
so
that
the
point
I
or
the
purpose
is
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
standard
program
and
it
is
fully
taught
and
understood
by
the
students.
G
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
answer
and
and
for
the
sponsor
of
the
bill.
Thank
you
for
bringing
it
forward.
You
know,
I
think
energy
storage
is,
is
definitely
a
hurdle
for
us
to
really
leverage
solar
energy
in
nevada.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
it,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
targets
just
had
some
questions
about
the
certification
process
and
thank
you
for
the
answers
and
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
mr
stern.
I'm
just
wondering
the
training
that
you're
doing
that
will
set
in
statute
here
is
that
is
any
of
that
training
for
non-union.
F
It
is
for
all
trained
electricians,
union
and
non-union.
There
is
no
restriction
and
in
fact,
at
this
point
the
more
the
mirror,
the
more
knowledge
and
expertise
we
can
get
out
in
the
field.
E
A
Thank
you.
Our
next
question
will
come
from
assemblyman
yeager,
but
I'm
not
exactly
sure
who
he's
going
to
direct
that
to
so
you
might
be
back
mr
stern.
E
D
Sandra
lang
for
the
record,
that
is
correct,
assemblyman
and
we
felt
it
was
important.
Everybody
on
the
work
group
doesn't
need
to
have
the
training.
One
person
needs
to
have
the
training,
and
initially
we
wanted
everyone
to
have
it,
because
we
thought
that
was
the
safest
thing.
But
in
talking
with
the
stakeholders,
it
was
too
much,
and
so
we
pared
it
down
to
one
person.
D
A
D
I
also
add
that,
on
the
training
everyone
that's
getting
trained
has
until
july
1
of
2022,
so
it
isn't
something
they
have
to
go
get
tomorrow,
they're
going
to
have
some
time
to
get
that
training.
J
Thank
you,
and-
and
this
is
for
hunter,
I
got
some
questions
for.
J
J
Okay
and
as
this
is
right
now,
apparently
it's
any
batty
battery
storage,
no
matter
what
the
size
is
and
how
how
big
of
kw
units
are
you
going
to
demand
that
they
get
this
training
on
because
they're
doing
this
stuff
all
over
right
now
everywhere?
So
we've
never
seen
the
fires
you
guys
you're
talking
about
unless
it
must
be
in
megawatts
somewhere.
But
I
want
to
know
what
size
or
is
this
going
to
be
limited
to
so
is
it
going
to
be
any
battery
storage?
J
F
For
the
record
hunter
stern,
ibw
1245.,
so
specifically
that
this
was
some
of
the
discussion
in
which
we
agreed
to
remove
the
residential
customers
and
that
size
it.
We
are
not
specifying
a
size,
because
the
battery
storage
technologies
and
specifically
the
lithium-ion
in
commercial
buildings
or
commercial
settings,
are
of
of
substantial
size
in
a
sense
that
they
will
need
to
support
and
provide
energy
for
the
building
itself.
F
So
so
there
is
not
a
set
megawatt
or
or
kilowatt
per
hour
size
of
storage,
but
it
is
the
equipment
itself.
J
Follow-Up,
the
problems
I
got
if
you've
got
small
commercial
buildings,
that's
got
storage
in
them
right
now
for
lighting
or
whatever
that's
used
in
solar,
that's
collecting
and
then
the
battery
backups
that
are
in
there
so
to
to
do
this,
any
any
commercial
building
that
could
be
a
small
grocery
store.
Anything
would
have
to
fall
under
your
training
and
the
other
thing
this
shouldn't
be
through
a
union
training.
J
If
there's
going
to
be
a
training,
it
should
be
through
the
community
colleges
or
colleges
not
just
set
per
for
this
group
that
you're
dealing
with
and
the
reason
that
is,
is
you
say,
they're
they're
two
days
a
week,
eight
hours
a
day
and
you've
got
people
all
over
the
state
of
nevada.
That's
that's,
might
be
10
hours,
one
direction
getting
there
or
five
hours
getting
there.
So
then
they're
gonna
have
to
break
up
their
whole
work
week
to
get
there
and
qualify
for
this.
Is
that
correct.
F
Well
again,
hunters
for
the
record
hunter's
turn
ivy
david
1245,
the
qualifications.
The
easiest
way
to
explain
it
is
any
trained.
Electrician
are
already,
irrespective
of
whether
they're
union
or
not,
or
do
you
want
to.
F
Again,
just
to
finish
this
is
a
this,
but
you're
correct.
This
is
a
c2
licensed
electrical
contractor.
F
Who
is
who
is
therefore
a
fully
trained
electrician
and
again
they
are
in
the
habit
or
the
practice
of
getting
training
for
various
kinds
of
equipment
and
work,
and
they
will
take
it
eagerly
because
it's
an
opportunity
for
them
to
make
you
know,
do
more
work
and
make
more
money.
If,
if
the,
if,
if
the
class,
provides
the
background
and
experience
and
training
necessary
to
install
the
equipment,
irrespective
of
whether
it's
this
class
or
another
class,
the
electricians
will
will
do
it
and
it's
it's
it.
Could
it
be
burdensome?
F
Yes,
it
could
be,
but
it
generally
hasn't
been,
and
people
haven't
complained
to
us
and
saying:
can
we
set
this
up
now?
That
said,
this
is
a
national
program.
If
a
community
college
or
some
other
education
facility
is
interested
in
setting
a
program
up,
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
help
and
facilitate
that.
I
I
I
So
one
question
that
I
just
had
about
the
the
curriculum
itself
is
so
who
develops
the
the
curriculum
and
and
updates
it
moving
forward,
because
I
think
you
did
mention
in
your
testimony
that
there
are
well
while
battery
storage
is
the
most
used
technology
currently
available.
I
There
are
other
storage
technologies
that
are
out
there,
and
you
know
it
looks
like
a
lot
of
the
curriculum,
focuses
on
battery
safety
and
and
elements.
So
how
does
how
does
this
get
updated
to
adapt
to
changing
technologies
and
who
makes
those
decisions.
F
Thank
you
for
the
record.
Hunter's
turn
ibd
1245.
Thank
you,
mr
watt.
So
in
this
case
this
program
was
developed
at
penn
state
university,
with
advice
and
participation
by
a
number
of
different
entities.
It's
been
given
and
I'm
not
going
to
recall
the
the
the
firm's
name,
but
it's
a
engineering
firm.
That's
a
cl
essentially
serving
the
client,
which
is,
is
the
esimtech
program.
F
If
they
are
responsible
for
keeping
materials
up
to
date,
they
are
responsible
for
adding
and
or
if,
if
appropriate,
subtracting,
labs
and
and
keeping
the
curriculum
current,
to
the
extent
that
other
technologies
could
become
over
time
more
viable
either
because
of
the
application
or
cost
it.
You
know
the
the
program
can
adjust
accordingly
and
again,
the
goal
is
to
get
as
many
people
trained
as
quickly
as
possible.
F
One
of
the
motivations
for
this
program
nationally
there
are
a
number
of
of
cities
and
counties
across
the
country,
including
new
york
city,
that
require
permits
for
the
installation
of
this
equipment,
and
you
know
obviously
we're
not
talking
about
that.
But
it's
something
that
that
people
find
because
of
the
potential
risk
of
something
that
certain
other
jurisdictions.
In
other
states
have
have
taken,
so
I
hope
I
answered
your
question
appropriately
and
I
will
I
will.
I
will
endeavor
to
get
the
name
of
that
firm
and
and
provide
it
to
the
committee.
I
I
So
you
know
I
I
see
that
it
makes
sense
to
me
that
what
we're
doing
is
essentially
at
this
point
it's
it's
pretty
clear
that
energy
storage
is
a
benefit.
We
see
that
this
is
the
direction
that
we're
heading
with
some
of
these
large
projects,
and
so
I
understand
some
of
the
language.
That's
essentially
not
a
determination
of
weather,
but
then
you
know
essentially
guaranteeing
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
go
down
this
process
of
updating
the
storage
targets.
I
I
guess
I
just
have
two
questions,
so
we've
repealed
some
sections
of
statute
related
to
determining
whether
it's
in
the
public
interest,
but
instead
in
the
proposed
amendment,
we've
added
a
legislative
declaration
about
it
being
in
the
public
interest
and
it
appears
to
have
some
of
the
the
same
or
similar
aspects
to
it.
I
E
Again,
bob
johnston
for
the
record
policy,
adviser,
nevada,
state,
democratic
caucus.
E
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblyman
watts
I
am
was
I'm
not
as
familiar
with
the
new
section
2.5
as
senator
lang,
but
my
understanding
is
is
you're
correct.
That
is
a
legislative
finding
and
declaration
pulling
some
of
the
language
from
the
requirement
under
sb
204
for
the
legislative
for
the
commission
to
determine
whether
it
was
or
was
not
in
the
public
interest
to
to
set
biennial
storage
procurement
targets.
I
I
I
I
don't
see
it
in
the
in
the
particular
sections
and
that
are
being
amended
in
this
bill.
Is
there
any
statutory
guidance
to
the
public
utilities
commission
on
what
they
you?
You
know
what
they're
looking
for
when
they
set
these
targets,
or
it
were,
was
that
just
determined
in
the
regulations
that
the
commission
developed.
E
Some
yes
vice
chair
watts.
I
believe
that
is
all
in
the
commission's
regulations.
The
commission's
regulations
provide
that
the
utilities
shall
include
an
energy
storage
plan
in
the
resource
plan
they
file
and
they're
now
filing.
As
you're
aware,
they
now
file
a
joint
resource
plan.
Their
next
resource
plan
will
be
filed
june
1
of
this
of
this
year,
and
then
those
regulations
also
provide
that
the
commission
can
modify
those
storage
targets
and
the
commission
could
also
have
them
expire.
E
You
know
there
could
could
well
be
a
determination
based
on
that
evaluation,
that
targets
do
or
do
not
make
sense
or
should
be
extended
to
a
longer
time
period.
So
it's
it's
it's
just.
In
my
opinion,
it's
fairly
ripe
for
report
back
to
legislature
on
where
things
are
given
the
importance
of
storage
as
a
as
a
resource
to
balance
intermittent
renewable
resources
like
wind
and
solar.
E
I
You
I
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
completely
agree
and-
and
I
think
that
the
commission
has
been
doing
some
great
work
recently,
although
I
just
want
to
also
again
flag
that
we've
had
issues
in
the
past
when
we
haven't
provided
adequate
statutory
policy
direction
from
the
legislature
in
how
some
of
those
results
have
turned
out.
And
you
know
in
some
of
our
other
renewable
energy
policies.
We've
provided
a
lot
more
direction
from
the
legislature
for
aspects
for
the
commission
to
consider
when
making
certain
decisions.
A
Thank
you
and
I
believe
the
puc
will
be
joining
us
on
zoom
they're
generally
at
each
one
of
our
meetings.
So
once
we
get
to
that
point,
you
can
also
direct
that
question
to
ben.
For
that
answer,
I
believe
the
next
person
that
we
have
up
is
assembly,
woman
summers,
armstrong
with
a
question.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
senator
lang
for
the
presentation.
I'd
like
to
talk
to
the
gentleman
from.
C
C
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
comments
earlier.
I
did
have
a
question
about
the
training
and
this
this
emerging
line
of
work
for
electricians.
C
Mr
ellison
referred
to
assemblyman
nelson
referred
to
the
availability
of
this
at
community
colleges,
and
it
appears
that
that's
not
what's
happening
here,
and
I
understand
that.
C
C
How
are
you
growing
your
teams?
This
appears
to
be
an
increase
in
in
opportunities
for
people
to
become
electricians,
or
I
don't
know
how
you
you.
F
Thank
you
for
the
question
for
the
record
hunter
stern,
ibw
local
1245..
So
this
is
actually
you
know.
This
is
where
we
talk
about
opportunity,
because
it
is
opportunity.
The
first
things.
First,
the
pool
of
people
that
will
get
the
esemtech
training
are
electricians,
irrespective
of
of
their
background.
If
they're
holding
a
c2
license
or
they're
working
under
someone
who
is,
they
can
do
this
work
in
terms
of
of
creating
opportunity
for
others
in
the
community,
we're
still
trying
to
implement
a
really
good
bill.
F
That
was
passed
last
session
and
I
believe
the
the
chair
was
also
the
author
or
the
sponsor
of
this
bill.
A
community
solar
bill
as
part
of
the
requirements
to
implement
that
bill
and
the
regulations
that
were
issued
and
approved
the
ibw
is
obligated
to
increase
and
create
a
pool
of
people.
We
call
pre-apprentices
so
a
pool
of
folks
to
come
in
to
be
exposed
to
the
work
this
is
now.
This
is
not.
Energy
storage
says
energy
storage
systems.
F
This
is
rooftop
or
other
community
solar
projects,
but
it
is
it's
a
better
opportunity,
because
the
level
of
skill
and
and
training
involved
is
lower
and
it
will
give
people
in
the
community
an
opportunity
to
experience
that
work
now
truth
be
told,
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
seem
interested
and
in
our
line
of
work
specifically
when
they
get
30
or
40
feet
up
in
the
air.
They
find
that
they
don't
work
as
well
as
they
do
when
their
feet
are
on
the
ground
and
that's
totally
understandable.
F
But
there
are
other
requirements
of
of
the
work,
including
the
voltage
you're
working
with
high
voltage
that
put
some
people
off,
but
in
terms
of
the
opportunity,
it's
the
same.
It's
the
same
pathway
to
get
people
into
these
into
these
jobs,
to
get
them
interested
and
give
them
an
opportunity
so
that
they
can
become
trained
electricians
and
then
begin
to
work
on
this
equipment.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
so
so
there
was
a
bill
last
time
where
you
were
trying
to
increase
and
and
have
this
pre-apprenticeship
situate
and-
and
let
me
just
I'll
just
be
as
transparent
as
possible.
C
There
are
opportunities
that
are
needed
in
my
community
and
I'm
looking
at
this
bill
come
forward.
That
is
going
to
create
a
requirement
for
people
who
are
electricians.
That's
all
within
your
purview
right.
You
control
the
whole
thing
at
this
moment
on
this
training,
and
so
that
gives
you
a
lot
of
of
of
power
right
to
to
produce
these
trained
people.
It
also
implies
that
there
are
opportunities
growing
for
storage.
C
So
if
you
only
have
one
person
on
site
who's
the
trained
person,
then
that
gives
opportunities
for
people
and
for
there
to
be
people
under
them
so
that
one
person
can
supervise
multiple
projects.
That
means
that
you
can
have
more
people
who
are
looking
and
able
to
work,
and
so
for
me,
I'm
looking
at
this
going.
C
Okay,
this
is
great,
but
where,
where
is
the?
Where
is
the
thrust
to
bring
in
a
diversified
workforce
to
get
people
to
come
and
do
this?
And
I
don't
think
that
every
electrician
job
is
on
a
on
a
bucket
right.
There
are
some
jobs
that
are
on
the
ground.
Are
you
saying
that
anybody
who
has
this
class
2
commercial
license
also
has
to
be
able
to
to
work
a
bucket
or
be
above
the
ground,
because
that
was
your
example?
C
Are
there
other
places
that
these
these
batteries
are
installed
that
are
not
up
in
the
air,
and
is
that
really
a
prohibition
to
get
more
people
involved
in
being
electricians?
Or
has
the
effort
really
been?
You
know
out
there
to
expand
the
pool
of
people
who
are
in
this
line
of
business,
and
I
mean
from
a
diversity
standpoint:
are
you
all
really
out
there
recruiting
in
neighborhoods
and
communities
like
mine,
so
that
my
folks
can
work.
F
Again
for
the
record
hunter
stern,
ibw,
local
1245.,
so
the
the
short
answer
is:
we
are
obligated
by
regulation
we
meaning
the
international
brotherhood
electrical
workers
by
regulation,
implementing
ab465
to
do
exactly
that,
to
provide
the
opportunities
for
people
in
the
community
where
the
where
these
community,
solar
projects
are
being
built
and
and
the
communities
will
be
served
by
these
projects.
F
Again,
it's
it's
different
than
esam
tag
and
the
installation
of
this
battery
storage
equipment,
but
it's
still
the
it
is
literally
the
regulation
and
therefore,
in
our
view
of
the
law,
to
create
the
opportunities
that
you're
you're
talking
about
and
and
do
so
from
the
community.
That
is,
that
is
the
requirement
and
we're
we're
tasked
working
with
dieter.
To
do
exactly
that,
and
when
I
say
we
I
mean
the
brotherhood
as
a
whole
in
terms
of
of
this
particular
work,
it
would
be
in
the
installation
of
of
energy
storage
systems.
F
F
F
F
Now
again,
we
are
in
in
in
order
to
comply
with
the
with
ab
465
we're
creating
this
pre-apprenticeship
pathway.
If
you
will
to
get
the
opportunities-
and
I
I
and
and
the
others
you
know
engaged
in
this
more
directly
would
be
more
than
happy
to
sit
down
with
you
or
anybody
on
on
the
committee
to
explain
how
that
can
work
more
in
a
more
transparent
or
obvious
way.
C
Just
one
more
madam
chair
does
the
pre-apprenticeship
program
at
some
point
is
its
intent
to
lead
to
fully
qualified
electricians?
Is
this
a
pathway
to
that.
F
K
F
It's
a
it's
a
test.
I
mean
the
apprenticeship
is
a
four
plus
year
program
up
to
five
years
now,
with
with
some
of
the
new
add-ons
to
it,
and
but
it's
so
you
an
apprentice.
He
or
she
will
work
their
way
through
earn.
As
you
learn
as
the
term
we
like
to
use,
they'll
have
classroom,
training
directly
and
then
they'll
have
on-the-job
training
and
it's
it's.
That
combination,
which
reinforces
the
information,
allows
people
to
progress
from
one.
What
we
call
a
step
six
month
step
to
the
next.
F
Some
people
don't
progress.
They
either
have
difficulty
retaining
the
information
or
have
you
know,
lose
interest.
It's
it's
not
entirely
easy,
but
the
idea
is
to
create
that
pathway
in
the
in
the
communities
that
you're
talking
about
so
that
people
can
see
what's
possible
and
again
I
I
think
there
are
really
good
opportunities
here
and
and
and
because
this
we
are
now
required
to
provide
this
not
only
and
we're
also
eager
to
do
so,
but
it's
just
from
a
different
bill
and
different
circumstances.
C
Kinda
sorta,
but
I
I
would
appreciate
if
you
could
just
provide
some
data
on
on
what
your
performance
has
been
since
the
passage
of
ab465
and
and
let's
you
know,
get
an
idea
of
where
you're
recruiting
and
who
and
how
people
are
doing
as
far
as
sticking
with
it,
because
we
want
to
see,
I
want
to
see
people
from
my
community
have
to
take
the
storage
class
that
you're
talking
about
to
be
able
to
install
these
large
kilowatt
projects
into
commercial
pro
developments.
C
That
means
that
they've
gone
through
an
apprenticeship
that
they've
learned
what
they
need
to
that
they're
able
and
that
they're
at
the
table
and
able
to
get
this
training
that
you're
talking
about.
That
means
that
they've
accomplished
the
ability
to
have
a
c2
license
that
assemblyman
ellison
is
talking
about.
C
That
means
that
they
probably
have
an
opportunity
to
have
a
business
and
employ
other
people,
but
if
they
can't
get
an
opportunity
in
the
apprenticeship
program
or
a
free
apprenticeship
program,
if
they're
not
on
the
radar
to
be
recruited
at
the
very
bottom,
they'll
never
even
be
able
to
have
a
chance
to
get
to
the
top.
And
this
is
just
a
an
issue
that
I'm
having
all
along
for
the
last
several
years.
C
I've
talked
to
you
and
others
about
about
availability
and
opportunity
for
people
to
get
into
this,
and
I
hear
a
lot
of
excuses
about
why
and
why
not-
and
you
know
I'd
like
to
see
some
results
and
and
to
see
if
people
are
really
working
hard
at
getting
these
things
accomplished.
So,
if
you've
got
data,
I'd
love
to
see
it
hunter.
F
Again
for
the
record
hunters
turn
ibw
toll-free,
so
we
we
agree
a
hundred
percent,
because
what
we
also
find
is
when
people
come
from
the
community
they're
going
to
stay
in
the
community
they're
going
to
serve
that
community
and
that's
better
for
us
and
our
our
our
contractors
they're
committed
to
the
to
the
community
here
in
nevada,
that's
better
than
people
who
might
jump
around
to
the
best
job
or
the
best.
F
You
know
I
don't
know
financial
reward
better
to
have
people
coming
from
the
community
living
in
the
community
and
benefiting
the
community
and
it's
it
also
makes
our
the
ibw
in
particular
stronger.
So
we
we
we
agree,
100
percent,
I
I'll
just
let
you
know
that
those
regulations
were
just
approved
and,
I
believe,
there's
a
project,
but
I
don't
believe
it's
a
one,
that's
formally
on
the
on
the
basis
of
of
of
ab465.
F
That's
that's
on
that's
beginning
to
start,
so
it's
unfortunately,
the
wheel
turns
slowly,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
it's
not
without
interest
or
without
a
goal,
and
the
goal
is
to
do
exactly
what
you
said.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
questions.
Next,
we
have
assemblywoman
peters.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
ask
a
couple
questions.
I'm
curious
about
the
energy
storage
definitions.
If
whoever
would
yeah
thank
you.
L
So
I
went
back
to
the
nrs
reference
for
energy
storage
system
definition
that
is
nrs704.793,
and
it's
relatively
broad
and
looks
to
include
things-
and
I
think
you
may
have
mentioned
this
in
your
testimony,
such
as
reservoirs
or
hydrogen
technologies,
or
what
are
some
other
ones.
That
reservoirs
are
the
big
one
that
I
could
think
of
that
are
you
know
nationally
a
standard
for
energy
storage
that
we
just
don't
really
talk
about.
Is
a
modern
energy
storage
such
as
we
talk
about
batteries
right.
L
So
I'm
wondering
in
the
intention
of
this
bill,
whether
you
mean
for
those
particularly
the
reservoir
storage,
to
be
included
as
a
person
shall
not
in
storage
and
install
an
energy
storage
system
unless
they
hold
an
electrical
license,
and
this
may
be
appropriate.
It
really
may
be
appropriate
for
a
and
a
trained
electrician
to
be
the
to
be
on
staff
and
installing
parts
of
the
hydroelectric
structures.
E
E
It
it
just
picks
up
the
definition
that
what
from
sp204,
I
believe
and
and
it's
looking
at
all
types
of
energy
storage,
including
you
know,
batteries,
molten,
salt,
flywheels.
You
know,
pumps
pumped,
hydro,
hydrogen,
as
mr
stern
referenced
as
to
the
relationship
of
esam
tac
to
those
particular
types
of
storage.
I
would
defer
to
mr
stern
on
on
the
esam
the
scope
of
esamtack
with
respect
to
other
storage
technologies,
but
you're
right
as
a
broad
definition,
and
that
definition
was
just
picked.
L
F
Thank
you
for
the
question
again
for
the
record
hunter
stern,
ibw
1245.,
so
this
I
mentioned
this
in
my
opening
remarks,
but
to
give
it
a
little
bit
more
clarity,
because,
obviously
it
wasn't
clear
before
and
I
apologize
there.
There
are
projects
based
on
their
scale
and
scope
which
essentially
require
a
general
engineering
background
or
degree.
This
was
this
was
a
some
of
the
advice
that
we
got
from
the
contractor's
board.
F
So
for
the
large,
in
this
case,
and
and
you're
specifically
talking
about
pump
storage
hydro,
which
is
large
scale,
long
duration,
energy
storage
and
it's,
it
does
require
trained
electricians
to
install
the
equipment,
but
it
not
in
the
way
that
the
esamtack
and
lithium
ion
battery
energy
storage
systems
operate.
F
So
the
short
answer
is
the
the
contractor's
board
was
very
clear
in
their
in
pointing
out
that
they
did
not
want
this
to
disable
that
those
trained
or
qualified
folks
designing
these
systems
and
we
agreed-
and
we
took
the
amendment-
and
I
think
senator
lang
also
mentioned
this
too-
to
ensure
that
those
kinds
of
projects
can
continue
to
move
forward
because
the
people
designing
them
have
requisite
experience
and
and
training.
To
do
so,
and
I
hope
I
answered
that
properly.
F
Sure,
again
for
the
record
hunter
stern,
ibw
local
1245,
so
the
amendment
was
was
designed
to
remove
sub-classifications
and
also
limit
the
or
not
limit
the
people
who
are
in
the
pro
who
are
charged
with
with
their
general
and
and
the
term
with
general
engineering
standards
or
requirements.
F
So
if
someone
is
going
to
design
a
pump
storage
system
and
it's
permitted
and
improved
they're,
it
is
it's
an
engineering
feat
actually
because
of
how
the
system
works,
and
it's
that
background
and
and
training
of
the
engineers
who
are
getting
the
the
permits
and
the
project
certified
and
approved
that
the
original
draft
would
have
potentially
disabled
them
from
doing
that
work.
And
that
was
not
our
intent.
And
so
that's
the
purpose
of
the
of
the
amendment
to
ensure
that
that
those
kinds
of
projects
can
move
forward
without
any
esam
tech
requirement.
L
Okay,
so
I'm
looking
at
this-
and
I
think
I
I
get
where-
where
this
is
coming
from-
and
to
be
clear-
this
is
just
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
intent
correct
on
the
record
and
that
the
language
is
reflective
of
that
intent.
So,
in
section
5
a
person
shall
not
install
an
energy
storage
system,
which
is
this
broad
definition
of
what
an
energy
storage
system
is
unless
he
or
she
holds
a
valid
license,
which
could
be
a
license
from
the
contracting
board.
L
It
could
be
a
license
from
the
professional
engineering
board.
It
could
be
a
license
from
a
number
of
other
licensing
boards
in
the
classification
require
and
that
classification
could
be
in
engineering,
civil
engineering,
structural
engineering,
electrical
engineering
or
other
licensed.
L
Other
licenses
right
that
would
be
the
classification
required
to
perform
such
work
issued.
Pursuant
to
this
chapter,
which
is
chapter
624,
which
I
don't
know
the
breadth
entirely
of
that
chapter,
and
I
don't
know
if
legal
could
weigh
in
real
quick
on
just
the
breadth
of
the
chapter
6
24.,
to
perform
those
works
and
the
regulations
of
the
board
and
the
board
in
this
being.
F
Again
for
the
record,
hunter's
turn
ibw1245.
It's
the
contractor's
board.
E
H
Hello,
this
is
jessica
demmer
with
the
lcb
legal
division.
So
chapter
624
is
the
chapter
that
just
deals
with
contracting
generally.
So
I
would
guess
that
would
be
anybody.
That's
under
the
state
contractor's
board,
it's
the
section,
it's
the
chapter
that
creates
the
state
contractor's
board.
H
Nrs624031
and
yes,
624.031
with
certain
entities
that
would
not
be
included
for
that.
The
purposes
of
that
chapter.
I
hope
that
answers.
A
D
Thank
you
cinderlane,
for
the
record
just
wanted
to
respond
to
a
couple
things
I
heard.
Assemblyman
watson
were
asking
about
the
targets
and
why
we
aren't
more
specific
in
the
language.
Initially,
we
were
more
per
more
specific,
but
we
found
that
actually
nv
energy
had
exceeded
the
goals
and
we're
far
ahead,
and
so
we
felt
it
was
more
important
to
get
the
integrated
resource
plan
that
their
the
puc
is
going
to
do
and
based
on
that.
D
That
document
create
new
goals
and
that's
why
we
weren't
specific
in
our
language
now,
because
we
ask
that
those
be
given
to
the
legislative
commission
so
that
we
can
create
new
goals
based
on
that
plan.
So
we
know
where
nevada
is
and
we
aren't
just
shooting
in
the
dark
to
try
and
figure
out
where
we
are
that
we
know
for
sure,
based
on
the
irp
on
the
training.
There's
lots
of
questions
on
the
training,
so
ibw
just
didn't
decide
that
they
wanted
to
do
training
for
everyone
in
our
state.
D
What
happened
is
they
knew
that
there
was
a
need
for
safety,
training
equals
safety
in
many
jobs,
you
have
to
get
training,
so
you
can
do
your
job,
and
so
it's
a
safe
environment
and
that's
what
they
wanted
to
do
is
create
a
safe
environment.
So
they
did
research
and
they
found
that
there
was
only
one
place
in
the
nation
that
was
doing
training
and
it
came
out
of
penn
state
and
there
were
lots
of
other
entities
involved,
so
they
created
this
training
at
ibw
started
doing
it.
D
I've
had
conversations
with
ibw
because
I
mean,
I
think,
you're
all
thinking
I
I
was
watching
you
and
they
were
talking
about
the
number
of
people
that
need
to
be
trained
to
be
able
to
do
these
jobs.
It
could
be
a
monumental
task,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
because
ibw
has
already
said
that
they
would
do
a
train
the
trainer
program.
D
So
you
could
get
someone
trained
for
a
a
crew,
a
group
of
people
that
are
working
on
a
site
they
they
could
train
other
people
in
their
business
so
that
it
wouldn't
be
the
situation
where
someone
else
said
that
people
are
driving
10
hours
to
get
to
a
training
for
eight
times
to
get
eight
classes,
they
could
train
one
person
and
that
person
could
go
back
and
train
other
people.
Those
are
models
that
have
worked.
I'm
a
former
teacher.
D
G
We
would
like
to
thank
senator
lane
for
bringing
forward
senate
bill
328
and
all
the
participants
in
this
bill,
as
it's
progressed
throughout
the
legislative
session
this
year,
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
renditions,
a
lot
of
changes
to
it
as
you
can
see,
and
that
that
most
current
mock-up
is
an
attempt
to
really
address
a
lot
of
that
and
get
to
a
place
where
we're
saying
we
should
have
energy
storage
in
nevada,
and
it
should
be
a
priority,
because
energy
storage
is
what
makes
solar
work
at
night
right
and
it
is
the
future
of
green
energy
and
the
progression
of
it
is
having
storage
with
it.
A
A
A
M
M
J
The
etham
tech
initiative,
led
by
penn
state
university,
is
a
non-profit
brand,
neutral
brand
neutral
national
training
and
certification
program
based
on
standards
and
codes,
developed
and
or
approved
by
the
national
fire
protection
association,
the
national
electrical
installation
standards,
national
electoral
code
and
the
american
national
standards
institute.
J
J
M
H
Good
afternoon,
chair
monroe
moreno
vice
chair
watts
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
ryan
bellows,
r-y-a-n
b-e-l-l-o-w-s
and
I'm
the
director
of
labor
and
external
relations
for
nb
energy
envy
energy
would
like
to
testify
in
support
of
sb
328.
We
would
like
to
thank
the
bill
sponsor
and
the
bill
proponents
for
working
with
nb
energy
to
address
the
concerns
that
we
had
and
to
address
the
concerns
of
other
stakeholders.
H
H
One
of
these
projects,
gemini
solar,
which
is
a
690
megawatt
solar
project
in
southern
nevada,
will
bring
an
additional
380
megawatts
of
storage
online
and
is
one
of
the
country's
largest
storage
projects
under
development.
Right
now,
envy
energy
continues
to
study
the
benefits
and
impacts
of
all
forms
of
energy
storage
on
our
system,
including
longer
duration,
forms
of
storage.
Like
that
mentioned
in
the
hearing
today,
pumped
hydro
storage
and
hydrogen
storage.
H
M
H
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
jimmy
lau,
first
name,
j,
j-I-m-m-y
last
name
l-a-u
with
ferrari
public
affairs
representing
the
nevada
contractors,
association
we'd
like
to
thank
senator
lang
and
the
build
proponents
for
working
with
us
to
clarify
the
licensure
requirements
in
the
bill,
and
thank
you
all
for
your
time
in
hearing
this
today.
Thank
you.
M
N
I
am
the
state
policy
director
for
the
u.s
energy
storage
association
good
afternoon,
chairman
monroe,
moreno
drinking
chair,
watts,
members
of
the
committee
esa,
is
the
national
trade
association
dedicated
to
energy
storage.
Our
members
work
with
all
types
of
energy
storage
technologies,
including
batteries
and
non-battery
technologies
like
compressed
air,
liquid
air,
advanced
thermal
storage,
pumped
hydro
among
others,
and
our
members
have
built
or
are
developing
hundreds
of
megawatts
of
energy
storage
in
nevada.
N
We
appreciate
the
legislators.
Efforts
to
advance
energy
storage,
applaud
your
leadership
to
date,
and-
and
we
welcome
this
initiative
by
the
committee
to
enhance
the
quality
and
safety
of
energy
storage
installations,
and
we
appreciate
some
of
the
several
of
the
changes
in
the
legislation
in
response
to
concerns,
however,
we
continue
to
be
concerned
that
this
legislation
has
been
rushed
through
too
quickly
in
the
general
assembly
and
may
needlessly
constrain
energy
storage
development.
N
Specifically,
we
have
two
concerns
and
recommendations
that
I'll
mention
here.
Some
of
these
were
addressed
by
some
of
the
earlier
questions,
but
but
we
do
believe
that
energy
that
senate
bill
328
applies
to
all
energy
storage
systems.
That
is
any
device
that
absorbs
energy
stores
it
for
a
period
of
time
and
discharges
it
for
later
use.
Sb
328,
we
do
believe,
would
require
installers
of
the
compressed
air
storage
project
or
a
pump
hydro
project
to
receive
training
and
certification
for
a
program
that
teaches
about
battery
storage.
N
N
We
also
recommend
that,
if
that
the
the
legislation
also
allow
for
additional
training
programs
and
that
the
agency,
such
as
a
contracting
board,
be
given
the
authority
to
approve
additional
training
programs
to
meet
quality
standards
and
access
standards
that
teach
the
national
codes
and
standards,
like
those
mentioned
previously.
M
M
H
Aw
supports
and
encourages
a
well-trained
workforce
for
all
energy
technologies,
so
that
the
energy
transition
can
provide
the
most
economic
benefits
as
possible
to
the
state
of
nevada.
We
would
like
to
continue
working
with
the
sponsor
to
refine
the
language
in
this
bill
before
it
passes
to
ensure
that
any
battery
storage
training
is
appropriately
targeted
to
battery
storage
installers.
H
Additionally,
the
energy
storage
industry
and
its
technologies
are
undergoing
some
of
the
most
significant
innovation
in
the
energy
space
and
we
believe
that
the
state
should
maintain
a
degree
of
flexibility
and
oversight
in
order
to
revise
its
workforce
qualifications
as
needed
depending
on
each
old
and
new
technologies
needs.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
A
M
H
Thank
you,
chairman
moreno
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
nate
bluen
I
am
that
is
b-l-o-u-I-n
and
I
work
as
the
policy
manager
for
the
interwest
energy
alliance.
Interwest
is
the
regional
trade
association
for
developers
and
manufacturers
of
utility
scale,
renewable
energy
resources
across
nevada
and
the
nation.
Our
members
are
developing
the
large-scale
energy
storage
projects
that
will
be
critical
to
meeting
nevada's
energy
and
environmental
policy
goals.
H
I
would
like
to
raise
two
concerns
that
we
have
with
the
bill
as
written
today.
First,
the
bill
codifies
a
broad
definition
of
energy
storage,
as
assemblywoman
peters
mentioned,
that
expands
beyond
the
scope
of
electrochemical
battery
energy
storage,
which
is
the
primary
technology
addressed
by
the
efampac
training
program
discussed
in
the
bill.
H
H
We
have
previously
provided
language
to
the
sponsor
that
would
alleviate
our
concerns,
but
the
current
draft
of
the
bill
has
not
incorporated
all
of
our
suggestions.
In
closing,
we
support
the
intent
of
the
bill
to
keep
nevada
workers
safe,
but
I'd
ask
the
committee
to
consider
the
concerns
that
have
been
outlined
today.
Thank
you.
A
A
K
So
those
regulations
that
you
see
adopted
also
created
a
framework
for
reevaluating
those
targets
and
establishing
new
targets
as
necessary
in
future
resource
planning
proceedings
submitted
by
the
applications
submitted
by
the
electric
utilities
in
determining
whether
to
establish
new
targets.
The
puc
will
beginning
this
year
review
at
an
energy
storage
plan
that
the
regulations
require
in
the
energy
to
file.
K
The
components
of
that
plan
include
how
the
utilities
plan
to
meet
the
targets
within
the
action
plan
period.
That's
the
next
three
years.
The
projects,
the
utility
is
seeking
approval
of,
and
evaluation
of,
the
costs
and
benefits.
K
K
With
regard
to
the
proposed
amendment,
the
mock-up
before
you,
the
poc
does
note
that,
in
finding
that
storage
targets
were
in
the
public
interest,
it
previously
evaluated
the
costs
and
benefits
delineated
under
the
existing
law
at
nrs,
704,
795,
sub,
section
three
and
so
to
address
vice
chair
watts,
observation
in
reevaluating
energy
storage
targets.
Pursuant
to
our
regulations,
the
puc
would
again
apply
these
considerations.
K
Finally,
if
I
may-
and
I
might
need
to
go
beyond
the
the
time
restrictions
here
to
just
address
vice
chair,
watson's
question
regarding
how
the
puc
sets
the
energy
storage
targets,
if,
if
I
may
have
your
indulgence,
you
may
have
my
indulgence.
K
Wonderful,
so,
primarily
in
setting
those
targets,
the
poc
looks
at
me.
The
it
looks
at
the
demands
on
the
system,
how
we're
going
to
balance
the
supply
and
demand
for
electricity,
and
one
consideration.
That's
important
in
in
looking
at
the
targets
for
energy
storage
systems
is
that
there
are
diminishing
returns
at
some
point.
K
I
I
You
know
understanding
that
it's
the
legislature's
job
to
set
some
of
the
public
policy
parameters
and
then
the
commission
to
undertake
some
of
the
more
in-depth
regulatory
work
to
to
make
things
happen.
I
So
it
seems
like
perhaps
not
repealing
those
sections
of
statute,
but
perhaps
maybe
clarifying
them
that,
instead
of
being
related
to
determining
whether
or
not
to
that
it's
in
the
public
interest
to
establish
those
regulations
and
set
those
targets,
perhaps
just
modifying
it
to
be
items
to
be
considered
when
setting
or
reevaluating
the
targets
and
some
of
those
parameters
that
are
in
statute
now
would
apply
and
continue
to
provide.
I
mean
so.
It
sounds
like
you've
already
established
a
process
to
to
look
at
these
things,
but
it
in
general.
Again.
I
I
think
it's
helpful
for
the
legislature
to
provide
some
guidance
in
aspects
to
consider
when,
when
making
those
determinations
so
that,
wherever
you
end
up
generally
falls
within
the
parameters
that
we're
looking
for
as
the
legislature,
I
guess
without
trying
to
put
you
in
an
uncomfortable
position.
Does
that
does
my
understanding
kind
of
line
up
with
how
this
might
work
a
little
bit
better.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Through
you
to
vice
chair
watts,
your
understanding
is
correct
and
we've
previously
followed
the
direction
of
the
legislature
in
examining
those
delineated
costs
and
benefits,
and
the
commission
if
additional
clarification
is
necessary
and,
frankly,
I
think
we
would
have
under
even
just
the
existing
law
if
it
were
reinserted
and
not
appealed
repealed.
Rather,
the
commission
would
apply
those
same
considerations
of
costs
and
benefits
to
its
examination
of
whether
to
set
new
targets
and
reevaluating
the
existing
targets.
I
Thank
you
for
that,
and,
and
so
I
think
it
it's
just
helpful
that,
while
the
puc
al
does
have
a
process
in
place
when
we
repeal
those
statutes
technically,
there
are
no
more
guard
rails
for
what
the
commission
would
consider.
So
if
we
keep
them
in
and
we
we
ensure
that
we're
we're
keeping
that
same
guidance
in
place
for
for
evaluating
those
targets
in
the
future.
Thank
you
for
the
clarification,
mr
weir,
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
indulgence
of
getting
that
on
the
record
of.
A
Course,
thank
you,
mr
for
joining
us
and
we'll
go
to
our
next
caller
or
person
on
zoom,
not
sure
we
have
another
person
zoom
who
wish
to
provide
testimony
in
the.
A
M
H
H
The
contractor's
board
appreciates
the
opportunity
to
work
with
senator
lang
on
the
bills
language
to
address
concerns
regarding
the
contractor
classifications
referenced
as
it
relates
to
the
scope
of
work
that
can
be
performed
within
respective
traits.
Having
reviewed
the
amendment
proposed
today,
the
contractor's
board
agrees
with
the
changes
being
sought
and
again
thank
senator
lane
for
her
link
for
her
willingness
to
work
with
us
on
the
language.
Thank
you
kindly
have
a
good
afternoon.
D
Senator
lang
for
the
record,
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
your
questions
and
it
helps
us
as
we
move
forward.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
we
took
that
language
out
of
the
bill
because
the
puc
asked
us
to,
and
so
now
they
want
us
to
put
it
back
in
we'll,
look
at
that
and
and
talk
with
them
and
and
figure
out
how
to
move
forward
on
that.
D
I
think
the
other
people
that
spoke
in
opposition
we've
worked
with
almost
everyone's.
A
couple
of
these
people
are
brand
new
people,
so
we
would
be
happy
to
reach
out
to
them
because
I
think
all
of
you
operate
this
way
as
well
as
I
that
we
want
to
have
the
best
bill
possible.
That's
going
to
help
people
in
nevada
as
we
move
forward
and
give
a
good
road
map
for
how
we
do
battery
storage
in
nevada.
A
A
We
will
be
holding
a
work
session
on
thursday
for
matters
that
have
been
brought
before
us
that
we'll
be
getting
a
work
session
and
I
think,
there's
a
number
of
items
that
would
need
to
be
finalized,
clarified
and
address
before
I
could
put
this
on
my
work
sessions,
so
please
reach
out
to
my
members.
Great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
B
B
This
bill
was
first
heard
before
the
committee
on
april
22nd
2021.
It
was
sponsored
by
the
senate
committee
on
growth
and
infrastructure
on
behalf
of
the
investigation
division
of
the
department
of
public
safety
senate
bill.
58
revises
the
responsibilities
of
the
investigation
division
of
the
department
of
public
safety
to
include
investigations
relating
to
technological
crimes
and
assisting
other
divisions
within
the
department
upon
request.
B
A
A
We
have
one
name
that
is
from
assembly
when
two
nays
from
assemblywoman
peters
and
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong
with
that
the
motion
passes
and
I
will
assign
the
floor
statement
to
assemblyman
watts.
B
B
The
bill
also
revises
the
process
for
an
applicant's
participation
in
the
design
of
a
special
plate,
including
deadlines
for
the
submittal
and
revision
of
a
special
plate.
Design
senate
bill
60
clarifies
that,
based
on
a
recommendation
from
the
commission
on
special
license
plates,
the
dmv
may
take
disciplinary
action
against
a
charitable
organization
that
has
failed
to
comply
with
the
statutes
governing
financial
administration
of
special
license
plate
fees.
B
The
measure
provides
for
design
criteria
for
exempt
license
plates
without
distinguishing
marks
that
are
used
in
undercover
investigations,
expands
the
number
of
law
enforcement
agencies
that
may
be
issued
such
plates
and
protects
the
disclosure
of
information
related
to
such
vehicles.
Senate
bill
60
increases
the
expiration
date
of
a
special
permit
from
15
to
30
days.
B
Finally,
the
bill
revises
the
formula
for
distribution
of
the
money
in
the
pollution
control
account
by
removing
the
calculations
related
to
funds
collected
from
the
licensure
of
certain
classic
vehicles
that
are
exempt
from
emissions
testing.
There
are
no
amendments
for
this
committee's
consideration.
B
I
B
For
the
record
katie
seaman
policy,
analyst
senate
bill
66
in
its
first
revision
enacts
provisions
relating
to
access
to
the
internet
and
telecommunications
technology
for
pupils.
The
measure
sponsored
by
the
senate
committee
on
education
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
school
district.
This
bill
was
first
heard
before
this
committee
on
april
27
2021
senate
bill
66
requires
the
office
of
science,
innovation
and
technology
in
the
office
of
the
governor
to
develop
a
statewide
system
of
gathering
data
related
to
residential
internet
service
and
telecommunications
technology.
Accessibility
for
peoples
in
nevada.
B
The
bill
also
requires
the
office
to
number
one
collaborate
with
various
entities
to
ensure
pupils
have
access
to
telecommunications
technology
and
the
internet
number
two
recommend:
minimum
standards
for
devices
owned
by
a
school
or
school
district
number
three
conduct
a
gap;
analysis
regarding
the
lack
of
people.
Connectivity
number
four
develop
a
fiscal
plan
to
address
such
gaps
and
number
five
report
on
these
responsibilities
to
the
governor,
the
state
board
of
education
and
the
legislature
annually.
B
A
L
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
got
a
few
questions
I'm
going
to
try
to
resolve
before
this
goes
to
a
hearing,
but
I'm
going
to
vote
no
and
reserve
my
right
to
change
it
to
yes,.
A
Your
vote
to
get
out
of
this
committee
is
appreciated
if
you
do,
for
whatever
reason
decide
to
change
your
mind,
I
ask
that
you
inform
me
before
it
hits
the
floor
for
the
the
final
vote,
so
we
have
a
first
and
a
second
and
we've
had
discussions.
So
all
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed.
A
B
B
B
The
dmv
is
not
permitted
to
conduct
transactions
electronically
if
state
or
federal
law
specifically
requires
a
transaction
to
occur
in
person
or
for
documents
to
be
presented
in
their
original
form.
There
are
no
amendments
to
the
measure
for
this
committee's
consideration.
A
fiscal
note
provided
by
the
office
of
project
management
within
the
dmv
shows
no
fiscal
impact.
Thank
you.
A
B
B
senate
bill
362
authorizes
a
regional
transportation
commission
in
a
county
with
a
population
of
seven
hundred
thousand
or
more
currently
clark
county
to
provide
microtransit
services
as
part
of
its
public
transit
system.
The
bill
also
repeals
a
requirement
that
the
regional
transportation
commission
in
clark
county
receive
certain
determinations
from
the
nevada
transportation
authority
before
it
may
operate
an
on-call
public
transit
system.
The
measure
has
never
been
amended
and
there
are
no
fiscal
notes
associated
with
it.
Thank
you.
A
I
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record
katie
seaman
committee
policy,
analyst
senate
concurrent
resolution
eight
expresses
support
for
the
identification
of
key
transportation
priorities
for
the
lake
tahoe
basin
measure
sponsored
by
the
senate
committee
on
growth
and
infrastructure.
On
behalf
of
the
legislative
committee
for
the
review
and
oversight
of
the
tahoe
regional
planning
agency
and
the
marlette
lake
water
system,
the
measure
was
first
heard
before
the
committee
on
april
29th
senate
concurrent
resolution.
A
I
have
a
motion
from
vice
chair
watts
and
get
it
second,
a
second
from
assemblywoman
summers:
armstrong
any
discussion
on
the
motion
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
emotion
carries
unanimously
and
I
will
assign
that
for
statement
to
assemblyman
wheeler
and
with
that
we
will
close
the
work
session
for
our
seneca
current
resolution.
Eight-
and
that
brings
us
to
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
for
today,
and
that
is
public
comment
now,
we'll
ask
our
broadcast
staff.
If
we
have
anyone
wishing
to
make
public
comment.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
I
will
give
it
just
a
few
minutes.
We
did
have
a
long
hearing
today
and
maybe
someone
wishing
to
call
back.
A
A
Okay
by
chance,
do
we
have
anyone
join
us
for
public
comment.
A
Thank
you
so
much
so
with
that
members.
I
will
conclude
today's
meeting.
Our
next
meeting
for
the
assembly
committee
on
growth
and
infrastructure
will
be
on
thursday.
The
13th
will
begin
at
1
30,
and
we
will.
The
meeting
will
consist
of
a
work
session
only
for
measures
that
have
come
before
our
committee
in
the
past
few
weeks.
Wish
you
all
a
good
day,
and
I
am
trying
to
get
our
committee
photos
rescheduled
as
soon
as
I
have
that
date.