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A
We
have
all
members
present
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
today's
meeting
of
the
assembly
of
growth
and
infrastructure.
Today
we
will
hold
hearings
on
four
bills,
but
first
we
will
introduce
two
bill
draft
requests
before
we
get
to
all
that,
we'll
just
briefly
go
over
the
virtual
meetings.
This
is
repetitive
and
I
apologize
for
that.
A
However,
you
all
know
the
legislative
building
remains
closed
to
the
public,
and
so
all
committee
meetings
will
be
held
virtually
committee
members
staff
and
everyone
else
will
be
participating
either
through
zoom
or
by
telephone
for
committee
members.
If
you
could,
please
remember
to
silence
your
phones
during
the
meeting
and
mute
your
microphones
when
you
are
not
speaking,
it
helps
to
minimize
the
background
noise.
Please
leave
your
cameras
on
so
that
we
can
maintain
a
quorum
throughout
today's
meeting
and
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
each
and
every
time
you
unmute
your
mic
to
speak.
A
A
I
am
committed
to
giving
each
matter
before
this
committee
a
proper
hearing
and
to
allow
as
many
individuals
as
possible
to
offer
a
testimony
in
support
opposition
and
neutral
positions.
I
would
encourage
those
wishing
to
offer
testimony
on
a
measure
to
do
so
in
writing
to
ensure
we
receive
your
full
statement
in
the
interest
of
time.
Testimony
by
phone
may
have
to
be
limited.
If
there
are
many
participants
speaking
on
a
matter,
anyone
can
submit
testimony
in
writing
by
using
the
submit
opinion
option
on
nellis.
A
That
is
located
on
the
webpage
for
today's
meeting
to
make
the
best
use
of
the
limited
amount
of
time.
Please
avoid
repeating
points
that
have
already
been
made
by
others.
You
can
simply
say
ditto
or
I
agree
if
multiple
people
are
here
representing
the
same
industry
or
specific
interests.
I
encourage
you
to
coordinate
to
make
sure
the
points
you
have
in
common
are
presented
succinctly.
A
Please
avoid
reading
long
testimonies.
Instead,
please
summarize
and
focus
on
the
key
points
of
your
testimony
and
provide
your
written
testimony
to
this
committee.
Our
staff
is,
can
take
the
testimony
up
to
48
hours
after
today's
meeting,
all
the
materials
submitted
for
the
meeting
will
be
posted
on
the
committee's
page
on
the
legislature's
website.
A
The
meeting
can
be
viewed
through
our
streaming
services
or
on
the
legislature's
youtube
channel,
both
of
which
can
be
accessed
on
the
website.
If
you
have
missed
any
meetings
in
the
past
and
you'd
like
to
know
what
happened,
all
the
committee
meetings
are
recorded
and
posted
to
the
legislature's
website,
usually
by
the
next
day.
A
A
And
as
always,
if
you
need
help
or
have
questions,
please
do
not
hesitate
to
contact
committee
staff
who
are
always
available
by
email
to
address,
as
it
appears
on
nellis.
So
we
have
a
full
schedule
ahead
of
us,
so
we
will
get
right
to
work
before
the
opening
of
our
bill
hearings.
We
have
two
bill
draft
requests
that
require
committee
introductions.
A
I
would
like
to
remind
committee
members
that
voting
in
favor
of
introductions
of
bdrs
today
does
not
imply
your
commitment
to
support
the
measure
later.
This
action
just
allows
vdrs
to
become
a
bill
and,
to
later
be
referred
to
this
committee
for
a
possible
hearing,
the
first
bdr
we
have
is
bdrc459
sponsored
by
the
legislative
committee
on
energy.
The
measure
proposes
to
amend
the
nevada
constitution,
to
revise
provisions
limiting
the
use
of
vehicle
fees
and
fuel
tax.
May
I
have
a
motion
from
the
committee
on
this
bill
draft.
A
C
G
H
I
A
A
Thank
you
and
that
motion
passes
that
moves
us
on
to
the
second
bdr
for
our
agenda
today,
which
will
be
43-476
which
proposes
to
abolish
the
commission
on
special
license
plates.
This
measure
was
requested
by
the
commission
on
special
license
place
based
on
its
work.
During
the
interim,
I
will
entertain
a
motion
for
committee
introduction.
A
And
I
believe
you
were
tying
with
assemblyman
wheeler,
so
something
in
the
marina.
Would
you
like
to
second
that
motion.
A
D
H
C
D
A
A
Members,
please
note
we
have
a
number
of
statements
uploaded
as
exhibits
and
nellis
for
today's
meeting
as
I've
received
a
request
for
hearing
assembly
bill
114
last
today
we
will
take
that
item
out
of
order
and
we
will
move
on
to
assembly
bill
79
and
I
will
open
the
hearing.
The
presenters
the
floor
is
yours.
I
believe
we
have
assemblyman
wheeler
and
mr
nathan
t,
who
is
a
former
youth
legislature
from
senate
district
16.,
welcome
to
gni.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
As
those
of
you
who
were
here
a
couple
of
years
ago
know
and
on
this
committee
a
couple
years
ago,
I
was
requested
to
run
a
bill
by
youth
legislator.
Nation,
to
you
also
happens
to
be
a
family.
Basically
this,
and
I
did
that
that
bill
during
that
time.
For
those
of
you
who
weren't
here
actually
received
33
co-sponsors,
that
the
young
man
went
out
and
got
you
know
out
of
the
63
of
us
in
this
building.
K
It
was
presented
by
myself
and
by
senator
orange
hall
and
as
he
put
it,
the
most
conservative
guy
in
the
legislature
and
the
most
liberal
guy
in
the
legislature
agree
on
this
bill,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
came
back.
It
was
changed
a
little
bit.
It
passed
out
of
the
assembly
on
a
vote
of,
I
believe,
40
to
one
and
with
one
absence
and
the
but
the
absent
guy
as
something
when
yeager
will
tell.
You
did
say
that
he
would
have
voted
for
it.
K
Had
he
been
here
so,
but
so
since
this
is
a
by
request
bill
and
since
youth
legislator
t
did
such
a
great
job
in
presenting
it
last
time,
I'd
like
to
have
him
presented
again,
the
bill
did
pass,
did
pass
the
senate
last
time
as
well,
but
it
was
changed
a
little
bit,
and
so
now
we've
seen
some
results
and
we'd
like
to
bring
this
back
and
put
it
back
into
its
original
form.
So
if
I
can
turn
this
over,
madam
share
it
to
former
youth
legislator
t
I
would
appreciate
it.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
assemblyman
wheeler.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
committee,
for
having
me
here
today,
I'm
here
to
present
assembly
bill
79
and
appeal
to
you
that
the
50-hour
minimum
must
be
re-added
as
required,
as
well
as
an
optional
increase
of
70
hours.
If
someone
chooses
not
to
take
the
defensive
driving
program,
the
70-hour
increase
will
create
an
incentive
for
both
students
and
parents
to
take
a
simple
three
out
three
hour
to
half
day
defensive
driving
programs
at
a
bare
minimum.
L
L
L
L
Nationwide
experts
have
found
that
the
50-hour
minimum
is
not
enough
to
be
an
effective
amount
of
time,
and
most
parents
do
not
keep
a
true
record
of
their
students
driving
time
but
before
taking
them
to
complete
their
practical
drive
test.
This
is
why,
which
is
why
the
practical,
hands-on
life-saving
techniques
are
so
important.
L
We
were
already
concerned
that
the
50
hours
was
not
enough
in
2017
when
the
death
toll
was
at
311.
According
to
the
fars
report
provided
by
ots,
there
were
329
fatalities
in
2018
and
in
2019.
That
number
was
at
304
and
then
last
year
that
went
up
to
314
when
the
ages
of
those
fatalities
range
anywhere
from
16
to
70,
whereas
the
majority
was
the
age
range
of
16
to
35.,
and
that
was
during
covid.
L
We
must
add
the
required
50
hours
driving
with
a
parent
back
that
were
originally
there,
because
by
no
means
should
it
be
in
lieu
of
the
50
hours
with
a
parent.
There
is
no
way
you
can
recreate
those
scenarios
that
teens
would
typically
experience
behind
the
wheel
in
50
hours.
It's
really
a
matter
of
teaching
kids
to
stay
calm
under
pressure
and
getting
a
vehicle
under
control
when
it
seems
to
be
out
of.
L
Defensive
driving
program
and
the
50
hours
is
going
to
do
a
lot
more
harm
than
good,
which
is
why
I
brought
assembly
bill
79
back,
so
that
we
can
have
the
defensive
driving
and
the
set
50
hours,
or
they
can
do
the
optional
70
hours
if
they
either
cannot
or
choose
not
to
do
the
defensive
driving.
Alongside
reading
from
the
legislative
council's
digest,
existing
law
authorizes
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
to
issue
a
driver's
license
to
a
person
who
is
16
or
17
years
of
age.
L
If
the
person
has
met
certain
requirements,
including
completing
at
least
50
hours
of
supervised,
driving
experience
in
driving
a
motor
vehicle
or
completing
a
hands-on
course
in
defensive
driving,
this
bill
revises
the
this
requirement
to
instead
provide
that
the
person
must
complete
one.
A
hands-on
drive
course
in
defensive
driving
and
at
least
50
hours
of
supervised
experience
in
driving
a
motor
vehicle,
or
two
at
least
70
hours
of
supervised
experience
in
a
driving
a
motor
vehicle.
A
M
A
M
To
have
you
done
any
research
with
regard
to
what
a
defensive
driving
course
would
cost
for.
L
Yes,
ma'am
and
currently
there
is
going
to
be
no
cost
to
the
state
we
already
went
through
this
last
year
and
the
dmv
needed
to
create
a
position
which
has
already
created
and
already
been
funded
from
the
2019
session.
Currently
there
are
two
major
defensive
driving
programs
out
there
that
are
non-profit
that
is
driver's
edge
and
there's
tire
rack
street
survival,
both
of
which
are
non-profit
organizations
but
they're.
K
Thank
you
neither
of
the
courses
and,
as
far
as
I
know,
actually
charges
but
lets
you
pay.
What
you
can
if
you
want
to
and
both
are
handled
on
a
non-profit
basis,
off
donations
and
had
the
original
bill
passed
two
years
ago,
as
is
the
both
of
those
corporations
or
companies,
were
going
to
expand
their
operations
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
course
within
driving
distance
of
any
anyone
in
the
state.
E
M
E
E
Our
in
high
school
education
courses,
diverse.
E
M
Course,
because
if
it's
in
a
vehicle
then
do
they
have
to
provide
their
own
vehicle,
what
does
the
insurance
look
like
there.
N
Students,
so
those
are
my
questions
and
then
I
also.
M
Hours
and
and
how
those
were
determined.
I
was
trying
to
remember
how
many
hours
I
had
to
do.
My
parents
made
me
log
every
hour
in
a
little
book
that
I
kept
in
the
car.
E
L
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
peters,
so,
to
answer
your
question.
Nevada
has
had
the
50
hours
requirement
for
as
many
years
as
I
can
remember.
So
it's
always
been
the
minimum
required.
It
was
50
hours
and
last
session.
I
was
going
to
add
defensive
driving
to
that,
but
it
became
a
trade-off
between
the
two,
so
I'm
adding
these
70
hours
as
a
as
like
an
incentive.
It
was
part
of,
I
believe,
senator
orrin
shaw's
bills
last
last
session
and
I
wanted
to
add
it
this
session
to
sort
of
honor
him.
L
As
for
the
schools,
I've
talked
to
several
of
the
schools
within
washoe
county
and
clark
county,
and
they
have
all
said
that
they
are
not
interested
in
doing
any
sort
of
in
classroom
instruction
for
defensive
driving
in
general.
Mostly
most
of
the
basic
drivers.
Ed
is
online
at
this
point
and
is
widely
accessible
to
anyone,
regardless
of
if
there's
a
school
near
them
or
not,
and
so
with
the
defensive
driving.
Most
of
these
programs
are
already
able
to
expand
out
to
every
county
in
the
state
and
the
ones
they
can't
get
to.
L
That
will
be
part
of
where
the
70
hours
goes,
because,
regardless
they're
getting
the
additional
training
hours,
that
will
definitely
help
save
their
lives
on
the
roadways.
L
Not
real,
there's
not
really
a
cost
at
the
moment
for
the
families
going
to
either
of
the
defensive
driving
programs,
and
then
I
know
that
both
programs
run
off
of
mostly
grants
for
their
insurance
costs
and
all
the
other
costs
that
that
come
with
running
their
businesses.
E
M
E
L
Thank
you
as
long
peters,
so
with
zero
or
with
driver's
edge,
they
have
their
own
vehicles
that
they,
I
believe
they
rent
them
or
they're
donated
and
with
the
tyrex
street
for
survival.
The
children
are
bringing
their
own
vehicles
that
must
be
insured
and
it's
a
vehicle
they
will
be
taking
the
test.
E
N
D
L
D
Okay
yeah,
I
I
had
a
gentleman
call
me
the
other
day
from
wendover
nevada
of
all
places
and
his
wife
just
started
to
learn
to
drive
and,
and
they
were
having
problems
trying
to
get
into
a
defensive
driving
because
she
was
going
to
beat
up
her
husband.
D
So
what
I
recommended
she
do
is
try
to
see
if
she
could
get
somebody
that
was
in
some
kind
of
driving
school.
That
would
help
and
like
I've
got
grandchildren
that
are
just
starting
to
drive
or
they've
been
driving,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
mostly
in
the
snow
in
in
the
mountain
areas,
snow
areas
where
people
don't
really
know
how
to
drive
in
snow,
and
that
was
a
problem
with
the
people
in
windover.
D
K
Thank
you.
As
far
as
I
know,
right
now,
assemblyman
the
classes
are
actually
open
to
anyone.
I
was
actually
invited
to
take
one
of
the
classes
and
I'm
kind
of
a
long
ways
from
a
teenager.
So
so
you
know
you'd
flunk
anyway
yeah.
I
would
yes.
A
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question
for
you
currently.
Do
you
know
how
many
locations
these
classes
are
being
offered
around
the
state
and
are
these
two
non-profits
that
you
speak
of?
Are
they
nevada-based,
non-profits
and
and
the
third
on
that
list
of
questions
is
what
is
the
current
wait
list
for
a
teenager
to
get
the
training
or
anyone
to
get
the
training.
L
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
I
appreciate
it,
madam
chair,
so
both
programs
are
nevada-based.
Terrex
street
survival
goes
across
the
country,
but
they
are
their
home
base.
Is
here
in
nevada
and
same
thing
with
driver's
edge
driver's
edge
currently
is
down
in
vegas,
but
they
do
come
back
and
forth
between
washoe
and
vegas
every
year,
but
they
have
said
that
they
are
able
to
go
full
year-round
throughout
the
entire
state
to
every
county.
They
can
possibly
reach
when
when
it
comes
time
for
that
and
the
same
thing
goes
for
tyrex
street
survival.
L
Due
to
covid,
I
am
not
entirely
certain,
but
they
should
be
able
to
handle
the
amount
of
students
that
will
be
going
in
if
this
bill
is
passed.
L
I'm
so
sorry,
I
forgot
that
I
have
a
powerpoint
to
share
very
quickly.
It
has
some
statistics
from
the
past
three
years
of
fatalities
across
nevada.
L
L
So,
between
2017
and
2019,
there
were
91
young
driver,
fatal
crashes
and
out
of
those
at
91.
85
of
those
were
fatalities,
as
you
can
see
that
the
number
of
young
drivers
and
fatal
crashes
between
2017
and
2019
has
been
going
up
and
the
same
thing
with
the
fatal
crashes.
It
has
been
a
steady
trend
line
going
in
an
increased
manner.
L
As
you
can
see
on
this
slide,
there
were
51
moving
vehicle
crashes
and
then
there
were
12
pedestrians
and
several
rollovers.
I
can't
see
because
the
little
window's
blocking
it
as
you
can
see,
a
majority
of
them
were
down
in
vegas,
but
there
was
also
a
fairly
large
amount
in
washoe
county
and
the
outlying
areas.
L
L
L
This
is
the
next
slide
of
the
fatal
comparison
between
2019
and
2020..
This
is
by
county,
and
this
is
all
the
crashes
that
were
reported
that
were
known
causes.
The
ots
does
not
provide
information
on
these
reports
for
the
crashes
that
could
not
be
given
a
definitive
cause
or
age
range
or
anything
of
that
nature,
and
then
these
are
by
person
type.
L
So
in
2019
there
were
70
pedestrian
fatalities
and
in
2020
there
was
83.
in
2019
there
was
52
motorcyclists
and
52
or
55.
In
2020
there
were
seven
bicyclist
fatalities
in
2019
and
10
in
2020,
and
then
scooter
moped
atv
was
three
and
then
that
went
actually
down
to
two
in
2020..
L
L
A
Thank
you,
mr
t,
for
that
powerpoint.
Can
I
get
you
to
send
that
to
our
committee
manager?
We
did
not
have
that
uploaded
and
I
would
like
that
to
be
uploaded,
so
the
public
that
is
joining
us
virtually
will
be
able
to
see
it
as
well
as
members
to
have
it
as
we
go
back
to
review
this
bill.
So
if
you
could
do
that,
I
would
be
most
appreciative.
I
D
I
I
A
K
Yes,
madam
chair,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
don't
do
by
request
bills
very
often,
but
this
was
a
good
one
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
got
out
there
and
I
wanted
to
compliment
the
young
nathan
for
doing
a
great
job
as
usual,
and
thank
you
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
listening
to
our
bill.
A
Thank
you
assemblyman
and
thank
you,
mr
t,
for
joining
us
here
today
and
with
that
we
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
79
and
we
will
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
118
if
the
presenters
are
in
queue.
Yes,
so
I
have
assembly
moment
bilbray
axelrod
to
present
assembly
bill
118.,
welcome
to
growth
and
infrastructure.
You
can
start
whenever
you're
ready.
P
P
Okay,
wonderful!
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay!
Well,
hello.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
vice
chair
for
the
record.
I
am
assemblywoman,
shannon
bilbray
axelrod
representing
assembly
district
34
within
clark
county
and
I'm
here
to
present
assembly
bill
118
for
your
consideration.
P
I
actually
served
on
this
committee
on
my
two
previous
sessions,
so
it's
nice
to
nice
to
be
back
with
you
all
a
little
background
on
this
bill.
Senator
joyce
woodhouse
brought
this
bill
in
the
79th
session,
which
was
2017..
P
It
was
sb
sb156.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
it
passed
out
of
the
senate
and
came
to
this
committee
under
its
former
title
transportation,
and
although
it
made
it
out
of
committee,
it
never
made
it
to
the
floor
for
a
vote.
Unfortunately,
so
let
me
tell
you
why
I
brought
it
back.
Motor
vehicle
collisions
are
the
leading
cause
of
death
and
injury
among
children
in
2018,
636
children
under
the
age
of
12
died
in
a
motor
vehicle
collision
and
over
97
000
were
injured.
P
What
it
does
specifically
118
requires
a
child
in
a
motor
vehicle
to
be
secured
in
a
child
restraint
system
if
he
or
she
is
less
than
eight
years
of
age
and
less
than
57
inches
tall.
Additionally,
the
bill
requires
a
child
who
is
less
than
13
years
of
age,
to
wear
a
safety
belt
and
sit
in
the
back
seat
of
a
motor
vehicle
unless
the
airbags
on
the
passenger
side
are
deactivated
or
if
there
is
special
health
need.
P
That
requires
the
child
to
ride
in
the
front
seat
or
if
all
back
seats
are
occupied
or
if
the
vehicle
does
not
have
a
back
seat.
Additionally,
I
do
intend
to
offer
an
amendment
that
includes
a
provision
requiring
babies
under
the
age
of
two
to
remain
rear-facing
in
the
car
seat,
while
traveling
in
vehicles.
P
I
would
like
to
turn
over
the
rest
of
my
time
with
your
permission,
madam
chair,
over
to
my
co-presenters,
who
will
have
additional
details
on
the
bill,
and
I
do
have
some
real
experts
here.
We
have
dr
paul
chestoff
with
the
unlv
school
of
medicine,
jeannie
marsala,
who's,
executive,
director
of
safe
kids,
clark,
county
katie
mentz,
who
is
the
director
of
washoe
county,
safe
kids,
laura
ostlund,
the
executive
director
of
the
pace
coalition
in
elko
and
captain
robert
mayer
from
clark
county
school
district
police
department.
P
So
I
will
start
with,
I
believe
dr
chest
off
will
be
beginning
the
rest
of
the
remainder
of
the
testimony.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
Thank
you
for
confirmation.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
privilege
of
the
virtual
floor
to
the
nevada
state
assembly
for
the
opportunity
to
present
to
you,
I'm
dr
paul
chesavich.
I'm
a
trauma
and
critical
care
surgeon
at
university
medical
center
in
southern
nevada.
I
I've
actually
testified
before
you
in
the
past,
so
this
is
my
second
or
third
time
doing
this.
As
part
of
my
job,
I
regularly
treat
patients
who
are
injured
in
a
variety
of
means.
This
can
be
any
number
of
different
mechanisms,
but
motor
vehicle
crashes
definitely
make
up
the
majority
of
what
we
do,
and
this
definitely
includes
children
who
are
injured,
and
I
can
honestly
tell
you
both
as
a
trauma
surgeon
and
as
a
dad
of
three
kids.
I
I
also
work
alongside
dr
debra
cools
who's,
the
main
principal
investigator
for
the
office
of
traffic
safety
and
also
laura
grida,
laura
grider
she's
joining
us
as
well
on
this
call,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
briefly
about
what
ab118
really
means
and
what
it
means
to
me
personally,
as
both
a
dad
and
as
a
trauma,
surgeon
disclosure.
I
We
are
funded
through
the
nevada
office
of
traffic
safety.
This
is
through
a
grant
from
the
nevada
department
of
public
safety.
So
we'll
start
off
by
talking
about
the
best
practice
recommendations
from
the
american
academy
of
pediatrics.
So
there's
really
three
points
here.
The
first
one
is
that
they
recommend
that
children,
age,
two
and
under
infants
and
toddlers
should
remain
in
a
rear-facing
child
restraint
system
from
birth
until
age.
Two
and
currently
the
nevada
law
is
only
through
age
one.
So
that's
a
gap
in
our
legislation.
I
I
The
third
item
is
that
children
up
to
age
13
should
always
be
riding
in
the
back
seat,
and
these
are
all
three
points
that
this
bill
would
rectify.
Now.
The
reason
we
we
are
putting
this
forward
is
that,
having
kids
be
properly
restrained
in
child
safety,
seats
means
anywhere
from
71
to
82
reduction
in
serious
injury
risks.
I
This
is
a
map
of
the
united
states
of
america
clearly,
and
we
have
three
different
colors
here.
So
if
we
divide
these
up
into
two
major
points,
one
being
the
children
two
and
under
in
the
rear,
feast
rear
facing
seat
and
also
children
up
to
six
to
eight
in
the
booster
seat,
the
states
in
green
already
have
both
of
these
laws.
I
States
in
red,
of
which
nevada
is
one,
have
neither
states
in
yellow,
have
one
or
the
other,
and
so
right
now,
there's
only
seven
states
that
actually
have
both
another
17
states
in
washington
dc
that
have
one
of
the
other.
So
this
is
an
opportunity
for
nevada
to
really
be
on
the
forefront
of
this
safety
measure.
I
When
we
look
at
differences
in
race
and
ethnicity,
we
see
that
children
and
hispanic
families
and
and
black
children
are
actually
more
likely
to
be
either
not
restrained
or
improperly
restrained.
And
what
this
really
says
is
that
this
this
legislation
really
has
the
best
opportunity
to
help
populations
of
minority
families,
because,
as
we'll
see
in
subsequent
slides,
whenever
kids
are
not
properly
restrained,
it
drastically
increases
their
chance
of
injury.
Should
they
be
in
a
crash.
I
So,
looking
briefly
at
this
is
just
looking
at
hospital
resources
used
based
upon
the
type
of
restraint
devices,
so
the
the
graphs
in
red
are
our
children,
who
were
not
restrained
at
all
graphs
in
yellow
are
where
they
were
restrained,
but
not
appropriately
and
in
green,
are
the
ones
who
had
appropriate
restraints
for
their
age.
I
So
if
we
look
over
at
this
graph
on
the
right,
so
this
this
graph
shows
kids
that
were
in
crashes
and
if
they
were
properly
restrained,
and
so
we
can
see
here
that
once
you
get
up
to
age,
six,
there's
a
pretty
significant
drop
off,
and
this
this
tells
us
that
essentially,
once
kids
reach
age
six,
they
really
aren't
remaining
in
their
booster
seats,
and
this
is
really
what
this
this
legislation
is
designed
to
to
prevent.
I
I
So,
in
conclusion,
nevada,
child
passenger
safety
laws-
we
know
that
booster
seats,
they
do
save
lives,
they
do
reduce
injuries,
they
do
work.
The
major
gaps
that
need
to
be
addressed,
as
we
mentioned,
are
children
between
the
ages
of
one
to
two
currently
are
not
required
to
ride
in
a
rear-facing
child
seat.
That's
something
this
bill
would
address.
The
second
item
is
for
children
ages,
six
to
eight
there's
currently
no
requirement
under
nevada
law.
They
must
be
restrained
in
a
boost
receipt.
This
is
a
recommendation
from
the
american
academy
of
pediatrics.
I
I
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
attention.
I
will
follow
up
with
just
one
brief
anecdote
and
I
don't
want
to
take
much
more
everybody's
time,
but
I
can
talk
from
a
more
personal
level
about
you
know.
There's
one
case
in
particular
that
sticks
out
in
my
mind,
of
a
a
young
boy
that
I
took
care
of
a
few
years
ago
was
actually
pretty
early
in
my
career,
who
was
riding
in
an
automobile.
He
was
riding
in
a
seat.
I
I
While
he
was
in
this
position,
he
was
sleeping
and
he
kind
of
was
further
down
and,
as
a
result,
the
the
velocity
of
the
crash,
the
seat
belt,
saved
his
life,
but
unfortunately
because
he
was
an
action
in
a
child
safety
seat,
the
seat
belt
kind
of
cut
across
his
abdomen
and
caused
some
pretty
significant
upper
abdominal
injuries
to
the
point
where
he
actually
blew
out
the
the
first
part
of
his
intestine,
which
is
actually
a
pretty
important
part
of
your
digestive
system,
and
we
had
to
do
a
pretty
complex
reconstruction.
I
Now.
The
good
news
is
that
this,
this
boy
did
survive
and
ultimately
did
okay,
but
I
think
the
it's
a
perfect
example
of
how
seriously
injured
somebody
can
be
if
they're,
improperly
restrained-
and
I
should
mention
that
every
other
occupant
in
the
vehicle
wasn't
really
that
badly
injured
and
the
other
occupants
in
the
vehicle
were
adults
who
were
properly
restrained.
So
it
was
really
just
a
function
of
him
not
being
restrained
properly,
and
the
point
I
want
to
make
along.
I
I
If
we
can
prevent
injuries
and
we
can
prevent
kids
from
getting
hurt,
it
is
a
million
times
more
effective
than
any
of
the
work
that
I
do
on
a
daily
basis.
So
so,
with
that,
I
will
close.
I
I
genuinely
thank
you
all
for
your
attention
and
thank
you
for
considering
this
bill.
A
G
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record.
I
am
jeannie
marsala,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
clark,
county,
safe
kids
and
the
trauma
prevention
coordinator
for
sunrise,
hospital
and
medical
center
trauma
services.
I've
been
executive
director
of
safe
kids
for
the
last
25
years.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
I
did
prepare
a
statement
for
so
I
would
say
make
sure
I
save
time.
So.
Thank
you
for
the
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
today
about
the
importance
of
upgrading
our
law
to
meet
the
national
standards.
G
Safe,
kids,
clark
county
is
a
non-profit
organization
dedicated
to
the
prevention
of
accidental
deaths
and
injuries
to
children.
We're
part
of
the
safe
kids
worldwide
campaign,
which
is
the
first
and
only
international
organization,
with
this
cause,
safe,
kids
worldwide,
is
the
certifying
body
for
over
600
000
nationally
certified
child
passenger
safety
technicians
in
the
nation.
G
G
G
G
It
also
allows
a
place
at
the
end
of
the
seat
for
the
knees
to
bend,
and
that's
also
very
important,
because
if
the
child
is
tall
enough
in
stature,
but
yet
the
knees
don't
bend
at
the
end
of
the
vehicle
seat.
What
you
see
a
child
do
is
exactly
what
I'm
going
to
do
on
zoom.
Is
they
make
it
comfortable
and
they
slouch
so
when
they
do
that
the
seat
belt,
then,
if
their
trunk
is
tall
enough,
will
move
from
their
collarbone
and
now
be
up
against
their
neck,
which
is
unsafe?
G
In
addition,
when
the
seat
belt
doesn't
fit
the
child
properly
or
the
seatbelt,
the
child
is
in
a
seat
belt
prematurely,
it's
very
uncomfortable
for
the
child,
so
nine
times
out
of
ten.
What
they
do
is
put
it
under
their
arm
or
behind
their
back.
So
therefore,
then
they
have
no
upper
body
protection
at
all.
G
Oh,
I
said
that
I'm
sorry.
So
if
we
increase
the
nevada
law
to
the
national
recommendation,
we
will
be
expending
extending
our
protection
of
children
up
through
age
eight.
So
we
will
no
longer
have
that
loop
parents
believe
when
they're
following
the
law
that
they're
doing
the
right
thing
for
their
child,
they
feel
that
the
law
reflects
what's
best.
G
So
if
a
child
is
hurt
or
killed
in
the
age
group
between
six
and
eight,
because
the
parent
was
following
the
nevada
law,
they
were
actually
injured
or
killed
because
of
the
loophole
in
our
law.
Is
that
something
we
want?
No
now
I
would
like
to
address
the
backseat
portion
of
the
bill,
a
2002
study
in
risk
analysis.
Four
years
after
front
seat,
airbags
became
a
standard
found
that
front
seat.
G
G
Please
know
airbags
can
deploy
from
80
to
100
miles
per
hour.
It's
not
a
problem
if
it
hits
you
in
the
sternum,
but
it's
a
it's
a
severe
problem.
If
it
hits
a
person
of
shorter
stature
like
a
child
in
the
head
or
in
the
face,
it
can
actually
snap
their
neck.
So
it's
very,
very
serious.
Every
single
car
manufacturer
has
a
warning
label
on
the
visor
of
each
and
every
car
that
states
children,
12
and
under
may
be
injured
or
killed
by
an
air.
G
G
Therefore,
based
on
the
facts
that
I've
educated
you
on
today,
you
can
see-
I
am
a
strong
supporter
of
ab118
for
evidence.
I
can
attach
a
copy
of
the
american
academy
of
pediatrics
policy,
a
study
done
by
boston
children's
hospital
and
the
safe
kids
worldwide
study
on
booster
seats,
with
my
testimony,
if
you
like,
I
thank
you
very
much
for
providing
me
this
opportunity
today.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
and
are
there
any
questions.
E
E
H
E
So,
according
to
our
2017
washoe
county
trauma
data
report
among
the
20
children
that
were
injured
in
a
motor
vehicle
accident,
while
they
were
an
occupant
of
the
vehicle,
more
than
8
in
10,
which
was
82
percent,
were
not
wearing
any
protective
devices
or
restraint.
At
the
time
of
injury,
when
we
heard
the
statistic,
we
realized
that
there
was
more
outreach
that
was
needed
to
be
conducted
in
our
community
to
bring
awareness
and
education
to
families.
E
E
After
this
campaign,
our
number
increased
to
1
631
seats,
checked,
which
was
an
increase
of
13.19
percent
increase
from
the
previous
year,
and
this
past
year
we
are
at
1475
seats
in
which
830
seats
were
provided
to
low-income
families,
each
family
that
we
check.
We
do
education
on.
We
talk
about
the
national
standards,
it's
hands-on
we're
able
to
really
work
well
with
the
families
to
explain
to
them
the
importance
of
all
of
the
measures
that
we're
talking
about
in
this
bill
today.
E
At
the
end,
they
always
appreciate
us
and
want
to
do
what
is
the
most
safest
for
their
children.
Our
most
current
washout
child
washoe
county
child
trauma
data
shows
that
in
2019,
only
11
children
were
injured
in
a
motor
vehicle
accident,
while
they
were
an
occupant,
and
none
of
these
were
found
without
protective
devices.
E
Sticks
were
not
wearing
a
sipo,
and
these
were
between
the
ages
of
15
and
17..
So
we
feel
that
by
really
pushing
the
national
recommendations
by
pushing
the
education
into
our
community
having
this
campaign
that
really
helps
families
and
targeting
those
families
that
are
lower
income
status.
E
A
Q
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak.
I'm
part
of
my
expertise
has
already
been
passed
on
by
the
other
presenters.
I
may
end
up
being
more
of
the
emotional
part
of
it.
I
had
a
family
loss
of
a
niece
due
to
the
unrestrained
six-year-old
and
while
she
was
killed
by
a
drunk
driver,
if
she
had
been
in
the
booster,
the
chance
of
her
survival
would
have
been
increased
greatly.
The
four
adults
and
the
child
who
was
for
and
properly
restrained,
all
survived
this
accident.
Q
Q
But
we
need
to
have
the
consideration
of
the
the
speed
and
the
distances
that
are
traveled
in
the
rural,
and
so
the
safety
of
the
the
child
is
is
twofold
with
the
child
restraint
and
the
speed
at
which
the
vehicles
are
moving.
Also,
a
consideration
is
that
again,
we
are
grant
funded,
and
I
am
not
funded
for
car
seats
at
this
point
in
time.
Q
But
I
did
write
one
because
within
our
communities
in
the
three
counties
that
pace
covers,
we
have
one
place
walmart
where
you
could
actually
purchase
a
car
seat
within
the
communities.
So
often
with
our
our
families.
It
is
a
two
and
a
half
hour
drive
or
a
five
hour
round
trip
to
purchase
a
car
seat
so
that
if
we
do
have
the
laws
protecting
our
youth,
that
the
car
seat
and
pace
provides
and
we
purchase
them
with
our
donations
and
we
provide
them
to
installers.
Q
Just
having
the
laws
of
child
protection
doesn't
do
much
good
when
we
know-
and
we
work
with
the
child
safety
through
ny
communities
coalition,
so
that
95
percent
of
parents
think
that
they
have
installed
the
car
seats
correctly
when
truly
59
are
not
so
almost
60
percent
are
are
not
properly
used
so
that
we
need
to
have
the
law
so
that
we
can
educate
and
protect
our
youth.
Q
And
so
I
really
do
believe
that
the
the
laws
need
to
be
increased,
because
even
one
child
death
is
is
not
worth
it
and
the
effects
on
the
families
and
the
communities
of
that
loss
is
deep.
H
Hello,
madam
chairwoman,
committee
members,
I
appreciate
you
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
bill.
I've
been
a
policeman
for
over
36
years.
I
spent
25
years
in
evanston
illinois,
where
I
coordinated
community
police
efforts
there,
when
I
retired,
as
a
commander,
I've
been
with
the
clark
county
school
district
police
now
for
11
years
and
I'm
at
the
rank
of
commander
at
this
time.
H
H
It's
clark
county
school
district
police
department,
since
2011.
has
been
involved
with
car
passenger
safety
and
getting
car
seats
to
the
community.
We
have
the
largest
group
of
trained
officers
in
southern
nevada
that
are
able
to
do
car
seat
installation
in
our
car
seat.
Techs.
We
have
the
highest
amount
of
instructors
as
a
police
department
to
do
instructions
of
other
individuals
to
be
car
seat
tax.
H
H
We
go
to
different
forums
within
the
school
district
community,
inviting
our
you
know,
sister
agencies,
to
participate
in
that
with
us
to
get
the
information
out,
I'm
so
thankful
to
assemblywoman
bilbray
axelrod.
To
reintroduce
this
bill.
I
was
very
disappointed
that
we
weren't
able
to
pass
it
in
2017..
H
I
really
have
to
tell
you
that,
when
we're
observing
a
child
bouncing
around
a
back
seat,
a
front
seat
going
between
the
seats,
it's
not
something
that
officers
are
targeting
anybody
and
then,
with
the
situation
of
the
body-worn
cameras,
your
body
worn
cameras,
the
officers
activate
upon
observing
the
offense.
It
goes
back
30
seconds.
So
it's
going
to
give
the
trier
a
fact
and
anyone
that
has
any
issues
with
this
the
ability
to
look
at
how
the
stop
was
conducted.
H
But
that
being
said
in
closing,
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
offering
my
support
and
my
experiences
that
I've
observed-
and
I
think
that
as
a
seasoned
police
officer,
that
this
bill
is
going
to
help
us
save
lives
here
in
nevada
and
in
clark,
county.
P
M
A
A
A
M
A
A
Was
heading:
how
do
we
get
this
law
to
be
understood
by
the
general
population
right
where,
where
does
that
take.
M
Place-
and
I
think
I
heard
miss
next
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
relative
to
the
northern.
A
Part
of
the
state,
but
I'm
curious
to
know
if
you
have
any
of
that
information
about
southern
nevada
in
particular,
and
then
how
are
we
teaching
parents.
G
You
know
parents
really
want
to
do
the
right
thing
and
they
want
to
follow
the
law.
I
know
that
when
we
upgraded
our
law
a
few
years
back
is
because,
as
I
stated,
I've
been
doing
this
for
25
years,
so
I
have
seen
our
law
upgraded.
Probably
10
years
ago
we
did
a
public
service
campaign
and
now
with
social
media,
that's
also
relatively
inexpensive.
To
do
so,
I
can
definitely
say
that
safe
kids
would
be
more
than
safe
kids.
G
Clark
county
would
be
more
than
willing
to
do
a
big
social
media
campaign
and
I'm
sure
that
sunrise
hospital
would
join
in
on
that
as
well.
So
that
would
be
the
inexpensive
way
to
go,
and
I
know
with
the
previous
upgrade
in
the
law
office
of
traffic
safety
was
kind
enough
to
actually
purchase
and
make
an
ad
and
do
psas
as
well
on
the
television
and
radio.
G
So
we
could
definitely
go
to
them
and
ask
them,
which
would
be
a
great
way
to
be
able
to
get
get
it
out
there
and
then
the
second
question:
I'm
sorry
that
you
asked
about
las
vegas.
There
was
something
else
thanks.
It
was
really
about
that
education,
but,
madam.
A
M
A
G
Again,
I
think
we
could
look
at
the
numbers
between
six
and
eight-year-olds
for
each
of
our
counties
and
be
able
to
sort
of
have
a
a
guess
on
that.
But
what
I
do
want
you
to
know
is
american
academy
of
pediatrics
has
had
these
recommendations
since
2011.,
so
we
are
10
years
behind
in
our
state,
with
the
recommendations
from
american
academy
of
pediatrics.
G
H
Bob
mayor
clark,
county
school
district
police
department,
reinforcing
what
jeannie
said
we
are
out
here:
clark,
county,
safe
kids,
school
police
working
together,
we've
educated
and
given
away
over
1500
seats
just
to
the
program
that
we've
been
doing
with
the
school
district
and
we've
been
educating
the
parents
that
are
coming
to
these
different
forums.
H
But
we
also
have
been
giving
information
out
and
would
be
giving
information
out
as
to
the
new
law
changes
at
the
schools,
we
would
be
reaching
out
to
our
administrators
at
the
schools
and
asking
them
to
send
the
information
out
via
parent
link,
and
it's
been
a
very
effective
tool
for
us
to
get
information
out
to
the
parents.
We
do
it
in
both
english
and
spanish,
just
as
with
the
educational
forums.
We
do.
Those
both
in
english
and
spanish.
Q
Assembly
person,
brown
may
this
is
laura
from
pace
coalition.
Sorry
and
one
of
the
ways
that
we
educate
is.
We
hold
actual
car
seat
events
where
the
families
come
in
with
their
cars
and
we
make
sure
that
we
have
bilingual
there
and
they
they
are
shown
so
one
of
the
qualified
installers
installs.
It
then
has
it
taken
out
and
has
the
adult
parent
guardian,
whoever
it
is
actually
install
the
car
seat.
Then
it's
reinspected
and
they're
shown
either
when
everything
is
all
right
or
what
has
been
installed
in
properly.
Q
Information
like
in
our
everything
elko,
which
is
one
of
those
giveaway
magazines
which
has
the
community
information
in
it,
but
we
throughout
the
state
they
do
the
the
car
seat,
installation
so
that
it's
actually
hands-on
you're,
not
just
handing
them
a
pamphlet
and
telling
them
install
it
correctly.
It's
here's
how
to
install
it
undo
it
and
have
them
do
it,
because
it
takes
quite
a
bit
adult
actually
has
to
put
most
their
weight
into
a
car
seat
and
the
booster
to
install
it
correctly.
So
there
is
hands-on
education
going
on
in
the
state.
E
E
I
also
want
to
just
comment
that
we
do
a
lot
of
outreach
events
and
partnerships
with
other
counties
such
as
lyon
county
in
the
rural
communities,
and
when
we
go
to
these
rural
communities
we're
seeing
mistakes
that
are
very
large,
even
more
corrections
that
are
needed
for
those
families
and
the
feedback
that
we
have
received
is
always
incredibly
positive,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
every
parent
wants
to
do
what
is
the
most
safest
for
their
child.
So
they
always
ask
us
what
is
the
most
safe?
That's
what
I
want
my
child
to
have.
A
Thank
you.
We
have
two
more
members
with
questions,
we'll
start
with
assemblyman
ellinson
and
we
will
be
ending
with
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chairman.
This
is
real
short.
We
were
down
getting
the
phone
repaired
here
recently
and
they
had
probably
20
or
30
seats
out
there
lined
up
and
they
were
free
to
the
public
and
after
I
got
leaving
there,
they
look
brand
new,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
they
were
used
that
they
could
donate
back
or
are
they
still
the
safety
standard?
D
So
some
of
the
comments
it
was
made-
I
was
god
of
thinking
about
that.
So
could
you
answer
that
and
I
mean:
does
the
older
ones
be
should
be
destroyed
versus
could
be
passed
on
to
somebody.
P
Else,
assembly,
woman,
shannon
bilbray
axe
rod
as
a
mom.
I
know
that
it's
not
encouraged
to
reuse
child
safety
seats
because
we
don't
know
if
they
have
been
compromised
in
a
crash.
That
being
said,
I
know
people
do
it.
I
I
gave
one
of
my
you
know:
300
britech
seats,
booster
seats
to
a
friend.
G
And
jamie
marsala
for
the
record
one
positive
thing
about
booster
seats
is
booster
seats
can
be
reused
because
the
booster
seat
is
actually
just
boosting
the
child
up
and
the
seat
belt
is
actually
doing
the
job.
G
So
the
nice
thing
about
that
is
by
us
upgrading
our
law,
we're
not
incurring
a
big
cost
to
families
by
them
having
to
go
out
and
buy
booster
seats.
You
can
actually
buy
booster
seats
at
walmart
for
as
little
as
13
at
times
and
booster
seats
are
a
seat
that
can
be
reused
because
again
it's
the
seat
belt,
doing
the
job.
G
So
it's
it's
out
there
and
open
and
of
course
they
get
all
the
education
in
that
class
and
in
the
past,
we've
also
had
funding
for
seats
through
that
and
safe
kids,
as
as
captain
mayor
said,
we
work
with
the
school
district,
police
and
other
agencies
that
get
grants
to
provide
seats
to
families
and
again,
what's
nice
about
upgrading.
This
lot
to
boosters
is
they're
very
inexpensive.
So
it's
it's
not
going
to
be
a
big
cost
to
these
families
to
be
able
to
protect
their
children.
H
P
B
Good
afternoon,
chair
monroe,
moreno
and
assemblywoman,
gilbert,
axelrod
and
all
of
the
presenters.
Thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
this
important
information
forward.
I
live
and
represent
a
community
that
has
a
high
instance
of
public
transit
riders,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
seen
is
someone
will
be
at
a
bus
stop
and
they
are
going
someplace
and
a
friend
will
pull
up
and
offer
them
a
ride
and
they
don't
have
the
proper
restraint
with
them.
B
Do
we
have
any
requirements
for
child
restraints?
I
don't
believe
that
we
do
in
public
transit
and
how
do
you
sort
of
connect
the
dots
for
people
who
are
writing
public
transit
and
may
not?
B
P
Am
I
on
mute,
I'm
not
sure
captain
captain
mayor
do
you
want
to
take
that
one.
H
Actually,
there
is
no
requirement
on
public
transportation
at
this
point
in
time.
It's
something
that
the
legislation
legislators
could
look
at.
Our
main
thing
is
educating
the
community
and
with
these
boosters,
especially
it's
the
situation
where
they're
light
enough
to
where
someone
can
actually
carry
the
new
ones
that
they
have.
You
know.
If
it
was
me,
I
would
be
inclined
to
carry
a
booster
seat
and
put
it
with
the
child
just
because
it's
going
to
help
them
see
out
the
window.
This
way,
they're
not
trying
to
stand
up.
H
It
helps
them
keep
seated
while
they're
in
the
public
transportation,
and
then,
if
god,
you
know
blessed
me
with
being
able
to
get
a
another
person
to
give
me
a
right,
it's,
you
know
really
ahead
of
itself
and
you
look
at
the
situations
where
you
don't
have
public
transportation
in
on
the
situations
where
we're
working
with
the
tribal
community
we're
doing
education
out
there
in
the
car
seat,
training
out
there
with
them.
H
What
we
do
is
a
department
also,
if
we
stop
somebody
whether
or
not
they
would
be
in
a
situation
where
they
picked
somebody
up
like
that
or
if
it
was
a
parent.
What
we
do
with
clark,
county
school
district
police
department
and
our
sister
agencies
call
us
many
times
we
come
out
and
provide
a
free
car
seat
to
the
family.
If
it's
a
family
that
cannot
afford
a
car
seat.
A
M
I
Chair,
I
do
believe
we
had
one
late
hand
raise
for
opposition.
Would
you
like
to
go
back?
Would
you
like
to
move
on
to
neutral.
A
Let's
go
ahead
and
hear
the
opposition
and
then
the
neutral.
I
M
Yes,
this
is
jack
stanko,
the
owner
of
champion
chevrolet
s-t-a-n-k-o.
I've
been
the
owner
for
33
years,
I'm
in
opposition
of
av-114.
Just
a
little
side
note
before
I
get
there
excuse.
M
A
Thank
you
so
much
well.
That
brings
us
to
the
end
of
this
bill.
Hearing.
Does
the
bill
sponsor
have
any
final
remarks
before
we
move
on?
I.
P
P
I
turned
my
daughter
around
when
she
was
one
years
old,
because
that's
what
the
law
said-
and
I
you
know
had
it
been
to-
I
would
have
kept
her
that
way.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
interest
in
improving
child
safety
in
nevada.
I
urge
your
support
of
this
bill
and
just
thank
you
so
much
for
hearing
it
have
a
great
day.
A
R
Thank
you,
chairman
roe
moreno.
I
also
have
with
us,
president
of
the
vgk
foundation,
community
relation
and
clear
programming
kim
frank
with
us
to
give
a
few
remarks
as
well.
R
The
special
license
plate
was
requested
by
the
vegas
golden
knights
to
generate
public
support
for
the
hockey
team.
This
play
has
been
very
popular
with
the
driving
public.
As
of
last
friday,
there
are
nearly
49
000
active
special
license
plates
trailing
only
the
las
vegas
commemorative
plate,
which
has
roughly
80
000
active
license
plates.
R
Nine
days
after
october,
first
2017,
the
vegas
golden
knights,
held
their
inaugural
opening
home
game
at
t-mobile
arena
where
they
paid
tribute
to
the
victims
of
the
tragic
one
october
event,
every
home
game
that
season
and
post
season
game
filled.
The
team's
newly
18
thousand
person
arena
to
capacity
the
golden
knights
united,
our
city,
brought
hope
to
our
city
and
provided
an
escape
that
helped
us
heal.
R
Since
then,
the
vegas
golden
knights
and
the
foundation
have
been
loyal.
Supporters
of
our
first
responders
donating
a
million
dollars
to
the
las
vegas
metro
police
department,
the
nhl
commissioner,
gary
bettman,
said
it
best.
Well,
I
think
it's
crystal
clear
that
the
vegas
golden
knights
not
only
have
embraced
the
community
but
have
embraced,
have
been
embraced
by
the
community
and
quote
assembly
bill
123
will
allow
the
foundation
to
continue
supporting
our
community
by
providing
much
needed
resources
to
education,
youth
sports,
military
and
first
responders
and
health
and
wellness.
R
Currently,
the
fees
for
the
vegas
golden
knights
special
license
plate
is
35
for
the
initial
issuance
and
10
for
the
renewal.
There
are
no
additional
fees
generated
by
the
plate,
which
means
that
the
vegas
golden
knights
foundation
does
not
receive
any
fees
generated
by
the
special
license
plate
again.
Madam
chair,
I
want
to
emphasize
the
foundation
currently
receives
zero
dollars
from
the
fees
collected
for
the
license
plate.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
if
you
look
on
the
dmv's
website,
all
charitable
license
plates
show
how
much
is
collected
and
what
portion
goes
to
their
chosen
charity.
R
There
is
only
one
organization,
not
collecting
fees
and
that's
the
vegas
golden
knights
foundation
and
under
them.
It
states
quote
this.
Plate
does
not
support
a
charitable
cost.
End
quote,
which
is
a
little
misleading
assembly.
Bill
123
adds
a
fee
of
ten
dollars
for
the
initial
issuance
of
the
special
license
plate
and
ten
dollars
for
the
renewal
of
the
license
plate
similar
to
the
other
charitable
organizations
that
receive
additional
fees
generated
from
a
license
plate.
The
money
will
be
distributed
to
the
foundation
to
assist
the
foundation
with
the
support
it
provides
to
non-profit
charitable
organizations.
R
D
Thank
you
so
much
first
to
assemblywoman
haudegee
for
allowing
me
to
co-sponsor
this
bill
and
good
afternoon
to
you,
chair,
monroe,
moreno
vice
chair
watts
and
members
of
the
assembly,
growth
and
infrastructure
committee.
My
name
is
steve
yeager
and
I
represent
assembly
district
9
in
southwest
las
vegas.
It
is
my
pleasure
this
afternoon
to
provide
some
additional
background
and
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
123.
D
and
by
the
way,
what
a
great
comfort
behind
win
from
the
knights
last
night.
I
hope
every
game
can
be
that
exciting.
Anybody
who
knows
me,
as
you
can
probably
tell
from
what's
behind
me,
knows
that
I
am
a
die-hard
golden
knights
fan.
I
grew
up
in
minnesota
in
michigan,
and
hockey
has
really
been
in
my
blood
for
a
very
long
time.
D
I
enjoyed
attending
hockey
games
as
a
spectator,
both
at
the
university
of
michigan
and
cornell
university.
Although
I
don't
have
the
skills
to
play
it,
I
enjoy
watching
games
and
attending
games
at
t-mobile.
Whenever
I
can,
I
used
to
be
a
fervent
detroit
red
wings
fan,
but
my
allegiance
shifted
when
vegas
was
fortunate
enough
to
land
the
expansion
golden
knights
in
the
2017-2018
nhl
season
and
I'm
proud
to
say
I
was
there
at
the
very
first
home
preseason
game,
with
a
sold
out
arena
cheering
for
their
team.
D
Now
I
have
never
won
that
raffle
and
I
know
my
chances
are
slim,
but
I
also
know
the
money
goes
to
a
good
cause,
which
is
why
I
purchased
the
tickets
with
the
pandemic.
Unfortunately,
the
revenue
that
goes
to
the
foundation
has
greatly
suffered,
because
until
yesterday
fans
have
not
been
able
to
attend
tonight's
games
for
almost
a
year,
which
means
no
51
49
raffle
sales.
I
view
assembly
bill
123
as
a
way
to
ensure
that
the
foundation
remains
healthy
and
can
continue
to
do
great
work
in
our
community.
D
I
do
think
that
most,
who
have
or
will
obtain
a
golden
knights
plate
would
gladly
pay
an
additional
ten
dollars
on
an
annual
basis
to
support
the
foundation
and
its
work
in
our
community.
I
urge
your
support
to
ensure
the
foundation
remains
healthy
and
can
continue
to
do
that
great
work.
Thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair.
I
appreciate
it.
R
J
Okay,
madam
chair,
this
is,
and
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
chip
segal
and
I'm
before
we
get
to
kim
who's
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
foundation.
I
I
am
the
new
clo
of
the
vegas
golden
knights.
Couldn't
be
prouder
to
be
in
that
position
and
I'm
also
a
lifelong
hockey
fan.
J
What
I'll
I'm
going
to
turn
over
now
to
kim
frank
who
runs
our
foundation
who's
just
briefly,
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
it
and
tell
some
of
the
organizations
that
benefit
from
from
our
the
foundation.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
privilege
of
speaking
with
you
all
and
go
night.
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
kim
frank,
the
vegas
golden
knights,
president
foundation,
president.
As
the
president
of
the
foundation
from
day
one
we
have
been
in
the
community.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
give
back
to
them
financially,
but
also
with
support.
They
support
us
on
the
ice
and
we've
really
wanted
to
do
that
off
the
ice.
P
Our
team
loves
to
go
out
there
and
help
them,
but
also
financially,
whether
it's
opportunity
village,
where
we've
given
over
a
half
a
million
dollars
lvmpd,
as
well
as
to
the
nevada
community
foundation.
We
have
provided
over
a
half
a
million
as
well
and
between
march
2020,
when
the
pandemic
hit,
and
today
we
brought
in
1.9
million
dollars,
part
of
that
came
in
from
bill
foley
750
000
of
it
to
help
us
continue
to
give
back
in
the
community
of
that
1.9
million.
P
We
have
given
back
1.7
during
this
time
to
date
and
we
have
lost
our
gala
for
this
year.
Our
golf
tournament,
our
main
our
main
focus
and
primary
ways
of
fundraising,
including
the
raffle
last
night,
was
our
first
one
in
person
which
showed
such
a
big
jump.
Last
year
it
was
880
000
that
we
were
able
to
bring
in
through
that
and
so
right
now
with
this,
it
would
be
such
a
helpful
way
for
us
to
be
able
to
put
it
right
back
into
the
community
here
in
las
vegas.
R
Assemblywoman
hattigy,
yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
do
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
some
of
the
help
that
the
vegas
golden
knights
foundation
was
able
to
do
during
during
covid,
but
they
donated
500
000
to
the
kobit
19
task
force.
Seven
hundred
thousand
paid
part-time
workers
for
games
missed
due
to
covet
19
and
then
50
000
donated
to
help
support
organizations
in
severe
need
during
covet
19,
including
united
way,
three
square
catholic
charities,
nevada
hand
and
opportunity
village.
R
Those
are
just
a
few
of
the
organizations
that
received
support
during
the
2020
year
and
assembly.
Member
was
right
after
304
days
of
waiting.
Yesterday
was
the
first
game
where
they
were
actually
able
to
have
people
in
attendance,
and
so
we're
excited
about
that
and
excited
to
have
the
the
opportunity
to
to
raise
money
through
the
raffle
as
well
and
with
your
permission
chair,
we
are
ready
for
questions.
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
members.
I
know
we
have
a
few
with
questions
and
we
will
start
with
assemblyman
wheeler.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
anyone
can
answer.
This
assemblyman
yeager
said
that,
due
to
the
lack
of
attendance
and
all
of
the
raffles
etc
are
not
creating
the
revenues
that
the
foundation
needs
now,
but
then,
on
the
same
hand,
I
saw
on
tv
last
night
because
I'm
a
knights
fan
myself
that
you
know
there
were
29
000
people
in
the
stands,
I
believe
was
a
number
I
heard
so
moving
back
toward
that.
K
So
are
we
looking
to
supplement
the
foundation
money
that's
coming
in
since
that's
moving
back?
Are
we
looking
to
replace?
Is
this?
You
know
like
a
temporary
type
thing
to
replace
what
we've
missed
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
lowering
that
fee
when
fans
are
in
full
attendance
and
also
the
other
question
I
had
was:
has
anyone
tried
to
figure
out
how
many
plates
will
you
lose
if
you
raise
the
fee?
K
R
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblymember
wheeler.
I
can
take
on
the
first
portion
of
the
question.
This
will
just
be
adding
to
an
additional
way
the
foundation
can
raise
money.
The
foundation
raise
money
raises
money
in
various
ways,
not
just
through
the
raffle.
They
also
have
their
night
to
remember.
They
have
their
5149
raffle.
They
also
have
they're
an
annual
charity
night,
an
annual
golf
tournament,
and
they
also
raise
money
through
sales
of
the
jerseys
and
sticks
and
that
have
been
used.
R
So
this
will
just
be
an
additional
way
for
them
to
raise
money
for
the
foundation
that
they
can
use
to
give
out
to
the
charities
that
they
support.
In
regards
to
the
study
on
whether
there
will
be
an
impact
to
the
amount
of
license
plates
issued,
I
I
mean
I
can't
foresee
that
happening.
R
All
the
other
charitable
organizations
license
plates
have
on
top
of
the
35
dollar
issuance
and
10
renewal,
a
25
fee
issuance
and
10
renewal,
and
I
and
people
are
willing
to
pay
that
this
being
the
second
most
popular
special
license
plate.
I
think
shows
to
how
much
people
want
to
show
their
support
for
the
vegas
golden
knights,
but
I
will
turn
it
over.
It
looks
like
I
have
the
vegas
golden
knights
foundation
ready
to
answer
as
well.
J
Thank
you.
Yes,
we
have
not
done
a
technical
price
elasticity
study
to
determine
whether
or
not
that
increase
would
in
fact
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
revenue.
Nevertheless,
given
the
popularity
of
the
license
plates
and
given
this
minimal
amount
of
the
fee,
is
we
we
believe,
based
on
anecdotal
and
other
evidence,
that
that
would
have
been
very
unlikely
that
it
would
have
an
adverse
impact
on
revenue.
J
Thank
you
all
for
being
such
gracious
hosts
up
up
in
your
area,
that
was,
it
was
really
a
great
great
event.
A
J
M
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
so
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution.
I
just
first
would
like
to
go
on
record
as.
M
As
noted
by
assemblywoman
heidegge
from
the
golden
knights.
A
Foundation
and
that
there
has
been
a
lot
of
really
good
work
done
there,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
that
out
there
and
then
I
do
have
a
clarifying
question
relative.
M
To
work
a
little
bit
on
special
license
plate,
it's
my
understanding
that
this
is
very
typical
that
the
fees
that
are
associated
with
a
non-profit
3
benefiting
plate-
the
fees
would
be
recurring
year
over
year
as
a
way
to
support
the
foundation
with
the
intention
that
then
the
foundation
would
support
the
community.
Is
that
correct.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
what
you
guys
do
for
your
foundation,
the
community.
You
know
I
was
a
member
of
metro,
police
and,
and
I
was
on
the
board
of
the
police
foundation,
and
we
worked
closely
with
the
golden
knights,
so
I
need
to
disclose
that
the
other
question
I
had
is
when
you
originally
set
up
the
the
license
plate.
Why
didn't
you
put
the
additional
fee
on
at
that
time?
Is
my
understanding.
The
foundation
wasn't
completely
established
yet.
P
That
is
correct.
The
the
foundation
hadn't
been
completely
established.
We
were
just
getting
there,
starting
as
the
first
sports
team
and
bill
wanted
to
get
that
bill.
Foley
wanted
to
get
them
out
there
without
that
extra
10
to
see
where
the
interest
was
and
to
also
make
sure
people
had
an
opportunity
to
buy
the
plates.
At
that
point,.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
mean
that's
an
important
point
on
why
you
didn't
have
it
in
place
before
and
you
know
that,
like
our
police
foundation
actually
has
applied
for
especially
plate,
and
you
know
we're
doing
the
same
thing
and
but
we're
going
to
have
a
fee,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
you're,
the
only
one
that
doesn't
have
a
fee.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
it.
Manager.
H
D
R
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblymember
ellison.
This
is
assembly
member
howdy.
Those
will
just
be
for
the
vegas
golden
knights
license
plates.
D
I
think
if
we
need
to
make
money,
we
can
make
a
fortune
by
just
adding
all
our
feel
into
that
that
emblem.
So
thank
you
very
much
and-
and
I
appreciate
it
and
if
I
told
my
daughter
I
supported
this
bill,
she
supports
the
other
team.
She'd
kill
me,
so
thank
you.
Assemblyman.
A
I
A
R
Thank
you
chair.
I
would
I
would
just
like
to
leave
the
committee
with
some
figures.
I
think
the
foundation
was
very
modest
in
speaking
to
everything
that
they
have
done
in
our
community,
but
I
do
have
those
figures.
They
have
been
able
to
donate
over
2.7
million
dollars
to
over
150
charities
and
organizations,
17
organizations
that
supported
youth
sports
60
organizations
that
supported
health
and
wellness
efforts
in
las
vegas
42
organizations
that
supported
and
strengthened
education
efforts,
24
organizations
that
supported
first
responders
and
veterans
and
14
organizations
that
supported
hunger
and
homeless
efforts.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
sharing
that
and
kudos
to
the
foundation
for
the
work
that
you
are
doing
in
our
community.
Thank
you
very
much
so
members
with
that
we
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
123
and
we
will
open
our
final
hearing
of
the
day
for
assembly
bill
114.
A
C
C
A
large
part
of
this
climate
strategy
is
to
reduce
carbon
emissions
from
the
transportation
sector,
which
is
the
largest
source
of
nevada's
climate
pollution
at
42
percent.
It
also
is
a
major
source
of
harmful
smog
linked
to
asthma.
The
american
lung
association's
2020
state
of
the
air
report
ranks
the
las
vegas
henderson
metro
area
as
the
ninth
most
polluted
in
the
country
for
ozone
and
the
25th
most
populated
for
particulate
matter.
C
C
The
best
way
to
reduce
these
transportation
emissions
is
through
the
greater
adoption
of
electric
vehicles
in
our
state.
Our
state
is
already
taking
action
by
working
to
adopt
the
nevada
clean
cars
program
which
will
bring
more
makes
and
models
of
electric
vehicles
to
consumers
through
our
legacy
automakers,
but
we
do
need
to
take
more
steps
now
to
reach
those
goals.
There
are
new
companies
on
the
scene,
forward-thinking,
startup,
automakers
that
are
only
manufacturing
electric
vehicles.
We
are
no
stranger
to
these
manufacturers.
We
house
tesla's
gigafactory
to
manufacture
batteries
for
these
clean
cars.
C
The
current
model
for
selling
evs
from
these
manufacturers
through
a
franchise
dealer
network
just
doesn't
work
for
most
of
these
manufacturers
for
multiple
reasons
and
lucid
motor
motors
will
address
that,
and
current
law
prohibits
them
from
selling
their
vehicles
any
other
way.
This
bill
would
change
that
and
allow
companies
such
as
lucid
motors,
rivion
and
lordstown,
and
there's
actually
66
other
small
companies
that
would
like
to
sell
or
have
the
opportunity
to
sell
their
electric
vehicles
directly
to
the
consumer.
C
When
I
decided
to
bring
this
bill,
I
looked
at
what
I
wanted
to
accomplish
with
this
pandemic.
It
has
continued
to
highlight
that
it
is
urgent
for
our
for
us
to
diversify
our
economy.
We
need
to
encourage
competition
and
innovation,
create
jobs
and
train
our
workforce
to
lead
in
the
area
of
this
new
economy.
C
And
yes,
I'm
a
democrat
who
sees
the
value
in
opening
up
markets
for
competition.
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
attend
a
new
clean
energy
economy
summit
and
it
brings
together
a
bipartisan
group
of
state
legislators
to
look
at
ways
for
state
to
harness
this
emerging
economy.
I
had
the
pleasure
of
participating
in
this
with
the
chair
of
this
committee
as
well
as
assemblyman
roberts.
I
believe
that
ad114's
market
approach
should
have
bipartisan
support
by
allowing
and
encouraging
smaller
businesses
to
come
to
our
state
and
thrive.
C
This
bill
has
no
cost
to
the
state
and
it
doesn't
change
the
way
anybody
currently
does
business
in
our
state.
What
it
does
do
is
it
does
opportun
open
up
the
opportunity
for
investment
in
nevada
to
solidify
our
status
as
a
national
hub
for
clean
energy
economy.
It
also
provides
more
options
for
consumers.
Looking
for
the
next
vehicle
and
you'll
hear
more
about
that
consumer
dam
demand
from
these
vehicles,
I'd
ask
you
to
support
assembly
bill
114,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over.
First
to
catherine
with
plug-in
america.
N
We'll
okay,
great
good
afternoon,
chairman
roman
reno
and
committee
members,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
co-present
ab-114
today.
My
name
is
catherine
stankin
and
I'm
the
policy
director
with
plug-in
america.
We
represent
the
consumer
voice
in
nevada,
the
consumers
in
your
districts
and
around
the
state,
and
I
promise
to
be
brief
in
my
remarks.
N
Consumer
demand
for
electric
vehicles
is
on
the
rise,
both
in
nevada
and
across
the
country.
Nationwide
sales
increased
for
electric
vehicles
2.6
times
from
2017
to
2019,
and
a
consumer
reports.
Survey
from
2019
showed
that
63
of
prospective
car
buyers
in
the
us
are
interested
in
evs.
Now
this
is
a
very
complicated
slide,
but
the
point
to
note
here
is
just
the
increasing
red
line
showing
that
consumer
demand
is
going
up.
N
Ab-114
as
assembly
movement
win
stated,
simply
offers
consumers
more
choices
and
allows
for
the
manufacturers
only
producing
evs
to
sell
in
a
manner
that
works
best
for
their
business
and
who
benefits
from
this
direct
sales
approach.
The
consumer,
the
consumer,
gets
predictability.
The
consumer
knows
what
he's
going
to
get
by
going
to
these
showrooms
a
standard
price
for
the
electric
vehicle,
with
no
additional
markup
and
a
trained
product
specialist.
N
When
iphones
were
first
on
the
market,
the
consumer
also
is
protected
by
the
same
consumer
protection
laws
that
apply
to
the
sale
of
any
vehicle
in
nevada
plug-in
america
represents
not
only
the
drivers
of
new
evs,
but
also
the
drivers
of
used
evs,
and
to
that
end,
the
sooner
that
nevada
can
get
evs
into
the
hands
of
new
car
buyers.
The
sooner
the
vehicles
can
eventually
be
transferred
to
drivers
shopping.
In
the
second
hand,
ev
market,
the
upfront
purchase
cost
of
an
eevee,
is
expected
to
reach
parity
with
gas
cars
around
2024.
N
N
If
you
see
an
electric
vehicle
on
the
road,
you
see
that
it
is
working
for
the
driver
in
nevada,
so
on
behalf
of
the
consumers
in
nevada
who
wish
to
purchase
electric
vehicles,
the
families
and
hard-working
nevadans
who
are
looking
forward
to
an
electric
transportation
future.
We
urge
you
to
do
all
you
can
to
give
consumers
access
to
these
vehicles,
including
to
support
ab114
and
I'll
turn
it
back
to
assemblywoman,
win.
C
O
Thank
you,
madam
chairwoman.
Members
of
this
committee,
my
name
is
daniel
witt
and
I'm
the
head
of
public
policy
for
lucid
motors.
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
in
support
of
ab114
today,
for
those
of
you,
unfamiliar
with
lucid,
lucid,
is
a
new
electric
vehicle
company
focused
on
bringing
the
next
generation
of
ev
technology
to
the
masses.
Our
first
vehicle
will
have
a
remarkable
range
exceeding
500
miles
per
charge
and
we'll
be
able
to
recharge
300
of
those
miles
in
20
minutes.
O
Our
industry-leading
efficiency,
when
paired
with
lower
battery
costs,
will
unlock
a
much
wider
market
for
electric
vehicles
in
the
coming
decade.
As
to
the
matter
at
hand,
I
come
to
you
in
support
of
the
legislation,
because
lucid
is
on
the
cusp
of
making
significant
investments
across
the
country
in
a
retail
and
service
footprint.
Given
the
substantial
interest
in
from
nevada
consumers
in
our
product,
we
would
love
to
include
the
state
in
our
future
investment
roadmap.
O
Direct
sales
by
a
manufacturer
is
in
some
fashion,
permitted
in
a
majority
of
the
united
states.
Direct
sales
by
at
least
one
manufacturer
is
legal
in
eight
of
the
top
10
u.s
car
markets.
Direct
sales
is
legal
in
the
states
with
the
largest
and
smallest
populations.
California,
and
wyoming,
respectively,
and
nevada
is
bordered
on
all
sides
by
states
that
allow
direct
sales
to
consumers.
O
Indeed,
as
most
of
you
know,
it
is
the
policy
of
the
state
of
nevada
to
allow
certain
manufacturers
the
ability
to
sell
directly
to
consumers.
To
that
end,
we
need
not
engage
in
speculation
about
the
ramifications
of
extending
this
law
to
cover
all
zero-emission
vehicle
manufacturers
when
we
know
the
result
of
doing
so.
In
the
first
place,
it's
a
successful
policy.
O
Not
only
has
it
resulted
in
millions
of
dollars
of
additional
investment
in
the
hiring
of
sales
and
service
technicians,
but
also
last
year,
more
than
80
percent
of
all
the
evs
sold
in
nevada
were
sold
directly
from
the
manufacturer
to
the
consumer.
That's
consistent
with
prior
years
as
well.
This
goes
to
the
root
issue.
Under
consideration
with
this
legislation
as
the
new
entrant,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
consider
two
successful
business
models,
one
historically
successful,
while
the
other
one
more
successful.
O
In
recent
times,
we're
simply
making
a
judgment
about
which
method
affords
us
the
best
opportunity
to
serve
our
consumers
and
to
be
a
successful
business
at
the
present.
It
is
a
choice,
the
same
choice
that
was
previously
afforded
to
tesla,
but
also
to
ford
gm
and
every
other
automaker.
That's
come
before
us,
giving
us
that
choice
in
nevada
is
not
an
exemption
or
somehow
picking
winners
and
losers.
O
It's
consistent
with
historical
precedent
and
when
boiled
down
just
fair,
nothing
more
to
that
end,
this
is
neither
an
attack
on
the
owners
or
workers
in
franchise
dealerships,
nor
the
franchise
system
itself.
The
change
that
allowed
tesla
to
sell
in
the
state
did
not
result
in
any
financial
harm
or
contractual
issues
between
dealers
and
their
manufacturers.
O
O
This
is
the
perfect
example
of
how
competition
and
the
free
market
have
enabled
both
business
models
to
be
successful.
Concurrently.
In
addition
to
these
considerations,
I
ask
that
you
consider
the
rights
for
consumers.
Consumers
are
discerning
and
are
not
required
by
this
legislation
to
do
anything
at
all.
Rather,
it
provides
consumers
with
a
greater
pool
of
options.
Indeed,
a
fixed
pricing
model
which
we
are
promoting,
which
vivian
is
promoting,
may
have
particular
appeal
to
women,
minorities
and
other
consumers
who
have
historically
faced
challenges
in
a
system
where
negotiations
are
customary.
O
This
policy
has
been
shown
to
be
a
win
for
all
parties
in
nevada,
consumers,
new
companies,
the
state
and
even
the
dealers.
To
that
end,
I
urge
the
members
of
this
committee
to
see
the
merits
of
increased
investment
from
new
companies
such
as
ours
and
the
increased
choices
and
protections
for
consumers
provided
by
this
legislation.
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
all
for
the
presentation
and
for
bringing
the
bill
forward.
I
do
have
a
question
here
in
regards
to
why
why
the
ev
manufacturers
don't
have
dealers
and
then
also,
if
you
could
just
shed
some
light
on
whether
or
not
the
passing
this
bill
would
allow
manufacturers
from
outside
of
the
country
to
deliver
vehicles
here
in
the
state.
Thank
you.
C
I
can
start
with
a
couple
of
those
and
if
my
co-presenters
would
like
to
follow
up,
that
would
be
great
I'll
start
with
the
how
a
consumer
you
know
part
of
this
bill
came
as
my
interest
in
obtaining
an
electric
vehicle
that
was
not
a
tesla
I
had
looked,
and
I
had
been
a
part
of
you
know:
discussions
about
different
electric
vehicles.
There
was
an
event
in
early
2020
before
the
pandemic.
C
That
was
sponsored
by
plug-in
america,
where
other
legislators
were
able
to
go
and
test
drive,
different
electric
vehicles
and
one
of
the
ones
I
was
interested
in
was
a
riveon
and
it's
a
4x4
truck.
It's
an
all-electric
vehicle.
It
looks
pretty
awesome
and
when
I
went
to
find
out
how
I
could
purchase
that
vehicle,
I
realized
I
would
not
be
able
to
do
that
here
in
the
state.
C
I
would
have
to
go
to
oregon
or
colorado
or
wyoming
or
idaho,
or
utah
or
arizona
or
illinois,
or
you
know,
montana,
tennessee,
michigan
and
florida.
A
lot
of
these
other
states.
I
would
have
to
go
to
another
state.
In
order
to
do
it,
I
could
still
purchase
it
online.
I
would
just
have
to
go
to
another
state
in
order
to
do
that,
I
don't
want
to
see
the
sales
tax.
C
I
want
to
see
it
stay
here
in
nevada
for
that
vehicle
nevadans,
don't
lose
sales,
tax
differentials
and
reciprocity
agreements
if
we
were
to
pass
assembly
bill
114
so
that
that's
the
you
know
your
second
question.
I
think
your
first
question
as
to
why
ev
manufacturers
just
don't
have
the
like
fall
in
line
and
do
the
dealership
model.
You
know
the
dealership
model
is
kind
of
protects
on
a
lot
of
these
legacy
automakers
and
having
being
able
to
sell
directly
these
startup
companies.
C
I
think
there's
69
of
them
right
now:
they're,
not
all
tesla
they're,
not
all
lucid
they're,
not
all
lordstown.
Some
of
them
are
much
smaller,
like
areas
that
I
liken
it
to
like
a
food
truck
or
a
pop-up
store,
where
you
would
want
to
support
small
business
and
innovation,
be
able
to
come
into
our
state
and
be
able
to
sell
their
products.
They
just
don't
have
enough
product
to
stock
lots.
At
this
point,
high
demand
has
already
and
they're
mostly
sold
as
they
roll
off
the
assembly
line.
C
They
are
not
producing
them
at
quite
the
volume
as
like,
a
ford
or
chevy,
or
a
toyota,
or
honda,
and
most
dealerships
make
most
of
their
revenue
on
maintenance
and
sales
and
evs
have
10
times
less
moving
parts
than
their
gas
vehicles
on
the
banks.
So
they
need
significantly
less
maintenance,
and
so
that's
an
overall
saving
for
consumers.
As
far
as
I
can
see-
and
I
don't
know
if
catherine
or
daniel-
you
have
any
other
further
input
on
either
of
those
questions
from
assemblyman
miller.
O
71,
I
thought
I
thought
that
was
a
very
good
synopsis.
I
think
I'd
just
like
to
key
in
on
the
one
point
that
you
made
regarding
a
certain
size
differential
last
year,
gm
produced
in
excess
of,
I
believe
it
was
10
million
cars
ford
being
on
the
amount
of
closer
to
about
6
million
tesla
less
than
500
000.
O
We
have
yet
to
produce
a
single
car
for
for
the
marketplace,
but
in
expect
to
do
so
soon
and
next
year
have
a
target
of
around
30
000
vehicles.
As
the
assemblywoman
noted,
all
of
these
cars
are
pre-sold
before
they
come
off
the
line
customized
for
each
individual
customer
and
so
ultimately,
the
notion
of
transferring
that
automobile
to
sit
on
a
dealer
lot
for
any
period
of
time
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
value
either
to
us
as
a
manufacturer
or
the
consumer.
O
I
Thank
you,
a
quick
follow-up
chair
go
ahead
so,
and
we
can
talk
about
this.
I
guess
at
another
time,
or
maybe
the
question
was
not
clear,
but
as
far
as
manufacturers
that
manufacture
their
vehicles,
that
don't
have.
I
I
guess-
and
this
may
not
not
be
something
that
exists-
that
don't
have
their
base
here
in
the
u.s
or
something
like
that
are:
will
they
be
able
to
directly
deliver
vehicles
that
are
that
meet
u.s,
specs
and
all
of
those
things
to
people
in
our
state
and
just
one
more
thing
as
far
as
the
service
component,
these
vehicles
will
require
some
service
at
some
point.
I
O
O
Thank
you
for
clarifying
the
questions,
so
I
think
it's
worth
trying
to.
I
want
to
answer
your
question
but
sort
of
reframe
it
in
in
light
of
what
this
bill
actually
does.
As
it
stands
right
now,
we
can
sell
to
nevada
residents.
Every
rivian
can
sell
to
nevada
residents.
We
are
not
permitted
under
current
law
from
receiving
a
sales
license
in
nevada,
which
would
allow
us
to
open
a
facility
where
we
can
conduct
sales
where
we
can
conduct
service
in
the
state.
O
We
are
asking
to
be
regulated
by
the
state
of
nevada,
with
this
law
and
so
under
under
the
premise
of
your
question.
If
there
were
an
out
of
country,
manufacturer
or
out-of-state
manufacturer
that
met
the
existing
requirements
of
being
a
zero-emission
vehicle
manufacturer
solely
that
met
all
the
requirements
of
the
federal
motor
vehicle
safety
standards,
then
ultimately,
consumers
in
the
state
could
make
the
judgment
to
purchase
one
of
those
vehicles,
provided
that
they
were
able
to
buy
them
from
another
state,
presumably
via
an
online
platform.
O
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I've
only
got
about
37
questions,
so
just
a
few.
K
Yeah,
I
don't
think
so.
No,
but
I'm
sure
other
people
will
be
asking
them.
Actually,
some
of
them
miller
already
asked
one
of
mine.
Thank
you.
K
Oh
yeah,
we've
got
a
lot
to
speak
with,
but
I'm
sitting
here
looking
at
this
and
yeah,
I'm
looking
at
the
amount
of
jobs
that
will
be
lost
if
there
aren't
service,
centers
and
dealerships.
I
look
at
the
dealerships
we
have
and
when
this
bill
came
out,
I
just
did
a
rough
study
and
it
looks
to
me
like
from
some
of
the
smaller
dealerships
like
nissan
and
up
to
ones
like
ford
chevy,
gm
et
cetera,
it's
about
50
to
100
people
per
dealership.
K
In
there,
that
includes
sales,
people,
service
people
et
cetera
and
the
average
salary
seems
to
be,
I
think,
around
60
to
70
000..
Having
worked
at
a
dealership
once
in
my
life,
it
can
be
quite
a
bit
more
than
that,
so
I'm
worried
very
worried
about
losing
actual
jobs.
That's
that's
number
one.
K
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
if
you
buy
a
car,
because
the
assemblywoman
said
that
she
wants
the
sales
tax
to
stay
in
nevada,
and
I
was
in
the
manual
manufacturing
business
most
of
my
life
and
when
I
sold
to
nevada
from
my
manufacturing
company
in
california.
K
But
what
I'm
also
looking
at
here
and
you
know
the
delivery
of
the
vehicle
itself
when
it
comes
into
nevada,
whether
you
bring
it
in
you
know,
on
a
carvana
truck
or
whatever
and
drop
it
off
here
in
nevada
or
one
of
those
big
vending
machines
that
they
have
the
delivery
of
the
vehicle
itself.
K
I
believe
the
assembly,
woman
or
actually
the
young
lady
from
plugin,
said
that
you
know
it's
like
getting
your
iphone.
You
know
now
you
can
get
it
on.
You
know
online,
don't
need
to
go
to
a
store,
etc.
K
Well,
I'm
wondering
how
many
of
you
got
your
iphone,
because
I
know
when
I
got
mine
and
knew
how
to
use
it.
The
first
day
an
iphone
isn't
going
to
run
into
somebody
and
but
a
car.
If
you
don't
know
how
to
use
it,
if
you
don't
know
what
every
little
switch
and
dial
in
there
is,
you
have
a
problem
with
that.
You
know
I
mean
that
that
could
actually
kill
somebody.
K
K
But
if
we
don't
have
that
delivery
process,
you
know
so
I'm
wondering-
and
maybe
mr
whit
could
answer
this
because
he's
actually
in
the
business
here
when
the
vehicle
is
delivered.
Is
it
delivered
with
a
salesperson,
a
technician,
a
someone
who
can
show
them
how
to
use
that
vehicle.
O
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblyman.
Our
our
goal
would
always
be
to
provide
consumers
in
the
in
the
course
of
delivery,
with
an
education
about
the
vehicle
through
a
walk
around
and
so
forth.
O
Without
this
bill
being
adopted,
we
ultimately
would
not
have
that
ability
and
be
forced
to
have
a
less
comprehensive
delivery
experience
with
customers.
K
Yeah,
I'm
sorry,
mr
wood,
I
don't
think
I
got
the
answer.
I
was
looking
for
there.
Oh
excuse
me,
I'm
sorry
does
that
mean
that
every
car
you
deliver
in
nevada,
if
you
get
this
bill,
is
going
to
come
with
a
salesman
to
show
them
how
to
use
the
vehicle,
or
is
it
going
to
come
with
a
user
video
you
know
or
log
into
youtube.
O
O
O
At
that
point,
we
of
course,
would
love
to
engage
the
the
customer
in
a
in
a
thorough
walk
around
of
the
vehicle
we
have,
and
other
brands
can
continue
to
evolve
to
where
they
provide
tutorials.
In
addition
to
this,
that
can
familiarize
the
consumer
prior
to
taking
delivery
of
the
vehicle,
so
they're,
even
more
educated,
leading
up
to
that
point,
I
expect
that
we
will
do
something
simple.
C
I
I
would
just
like
to
point
out,
in
addition
to
assemblyman
wheeler,
he
had
pointed
out
that
we
have
this
dealer
model
well
one.
I
would
encourage
him
to
get
into
an
electric
vehicle
because
it's
not
a
whole
lot
different
than
driving
a
normal
vehicle.
C
So
I
one
I
would
say
that
two,
you
know
the
dealer
model
model
and
the
direct
sales
model
can
co-exist.
We
see
that
it
coexists
with
tesla
right
now.
Tesla
is
coexisting
with
the
dealer
model
and
there
isn't
a
loss
of
jobs
like
allowing
lucid
or
ribbion
or
lordstown
to
come
up
and
invest
in
our
state.
By
setting
up
you
know
a
showroom
setting
up
service
setting
up
all
those
things
does
not
take
away
from
the
150
100
150
jobs
on
a
dealer
lot.
So
I
I
think
they
can.
K
Well,
thank
you
and
I
have
driven
an
electric
vehicle
and
it's
vastly
different.
Just
so
you
know
the
torque
from
an
electric
motor
being
in
this
business
is
probably
six
times
the
torque
of
a
gas
motor.
Some
of
the
actual
you
know,
drive
yourself
features
etc,
and
the
tesla
I
drove
was
very
different.
So
it
takes
some
education,
but
regardless
of
that,
as
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
even
an
electric
vehicle.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chairman,
and
I
made
notes
on
every
one
of
these,
so
jim.
Madam
chairman,
I
do
have
a
couple
questions
and
number
one
is:
there's,
never
you've
never
built
a
vehicle.
Yet,
based
on
your
conversation
and
as
you
know,
you
go
buy
a
new
car,
new
pickup
right
now
and
it's
the
new
model.
You
always
have
problems
with
it.
D
D
You
say
you're
going
to
do
about
35,
000
of
them,
so
that'll
probably
be
maybe
four
or
five
thousand
in
nevada
the
first
couple
years
and
with
no
maintenance
shops
here
and
nobody
to
service
these
vehicles,
not
like
tesla.
Has
these
service
facilities
around
that's
one
of
my
biggest
fear
is:
if
there's
no
service
department
who's
going
to
work
on.
O
D
Vehicles
and
every
new
model
is,
it's
got
little
gremlins
in
them
and
you
work
them
out
and
they
they
send
the
parts
and
they
fix
them.
But
could
you
answer
them
questions
please.
A
C
C
That
is
all
that
we
are
asking
is
allow
other
manufacturers
of
electric
only
vehicles
to
set
up
shop
to
like
open
a
showroom
open
a
service
center.
Allow
that
competition
allow
the
small
guys
to
come
in
and
create
that
product
so
and
sell
that
product
to
nevadans
in
our
state
at
their
thing.
So
I
think
that
kind
of
answers
that,
as
far
as
like
difficulties,
I
think
daniel
can
also
answer
that
as
well.
I
know
he
has
experience
from
his
time
at
tesla
and
now
also
would
lose
it.
O
Yes,
I,
the
the
assemblyman
daniel
witt,
for
the
record
nevada
actually
is,
is
in
a
class
of
states,
that's
actually
more
restrictive
in
such
that
unless
you
have
a
a
sales
license,
you
are
unable
to
conduct
warranty
service
so
assemblyman
to
execute
a
question
again
without
this
law
moving
forward.
We
are
heavily
burdened
by
the
existing
state
law
to
providing
our
customers
in
nevada
with
the
type
of
service
we
would
ultimately
like
to
like
to.
As
to
the
as
to
the
problems
you
allude
to
with
every
manufacturer.
O
I
have
no
doubt
that
you
know
we
are
producing
vehicles
now,
just
prior,
just
not
for
customers,
yet
we're
trying
to
get
out
as
many
of
those
gremlins
as
we
possibly
can
before
delivering
to
customers,
but
invariably,
as
you
know,
whether
it's
a
first
year
model
or
you
know
the
eighth
year
of
the
model,
there
are
going
to
be
ongoing
challenges
that
we
as
an
automaker
ultimately
need
to
be
need
to
be
able
to
be
responsive
to
our
customers,
and
that
again,
is
exactly
why
we're
seeking
this
change.
D
You
know:
40
000,
100
000.
I
have
no
idea
but
say
when
they
get
here
and
there's
a
problem
and
you
have
the
same
problem
in
in
so
many
cars.
How
do
you
plan
on
on
because
you're,
starting
off
you
weren't
even
going
to
build
a
building
here
you
wanted
to
get
the
sales
moving
first
before
you
could
actually
implement
any
kind
of
investment
into
structures
that
are
here
a
business
that
are
here.
D
O
I
I
I
think
I
just
go
back
to
the
point
that
in
at
least
in
nevada
service
is
linked
to
sales.
So
when
I,
when
I
speak
of
wanting
to
get
a
sales
license,
it's
implied
within
that
that
we
also
want
to
provide
service.
But
to
be
perfectly
explicit
for
us,
we
have
sales
facilities
and
service
facilities,
both
of
which
we
we
fully
intend
to
put
into
nevada
so
that
we
can
best
serve
our
our
customers.
A
Thank
you,
mr
wood,
just
to
to
further
clarify
what
you're
saying
is
that
if
this
bill
were
to
be
approved
and
moved
through
this
legislative
session,
it
would
be
your
company's
interests
and
other
companies
like
yours
to
build
facilities
within
the
state
to
conduct
sales,
but
also
to
provide
service
for
those
vehicles
that
are
sold
in
the
state,
so
that,
if
there
are
problems
with
the
vehicles,
the
consumers
would
have
a
place
to
get
those
problems
remedied.
Is
that
what
I
hear
you
saying.
B
I
think
my
question
is
sort
of
in
line
with
what
has
just
been
asked
when
I
spoke
with
miss
stankin,
a
plug
in
america
and
another
group
of
folks.
B
Last
week
there
was
no
mention
of
setting
up
that
type
of
a
situation
where
there
was
brick
and
mortar
for
there
to
be
a
service
subsequent
to
purchase,
and
then
mr
witt
is
saying
that
that's
the
intent,
but
maybe
my
question
would
be:
is
there
anything
in
this
bill
that
would
make
this
more
than
an
intent,
but
would
be
a
requirement
of
some
type
that
they
set
up
either
their
own
brick
and
mortar,
or
develop
relationships
with
existing
brick
and
mortar
buildings,
not
buildings,
but
businesses
that
provide
sales
and
cert
that
provide
service
to
help
our
citizens
to
be
able
to
have
service.
B
And
I
say
that
because
I
was
reading
an
article
on
another
startup
by
the
way
I
think
50
of
all
startups
fail.
So
that
is
that
is
also
concerning
that
we
have
this
influx
of
startups
and
then
we
could
possibly
have
products
that
are
out
of
production
and
now
there's
no
place
for
them
to
be
serviced,
because
there
is
no
business
existing
any
longer,
and
so
that's
a
concern
of
mine
and
second
question:
are
these
businesses
going
to
provide
their
service
manuals?
B
Is
there
any
any
requirement
federally
for
that
to
happen?
So
if
these
businesses
that
go
out
of
business,
there
is
a
way
for
a
after-market
sales
person
to
be
able
to
have
the
expertise,
the
knowledge
and
actually
access
to
tools
and
and
supplies
to
service
these
these
vehicles.
C
C
We
are
just
asking
to
open
this
up
to
other
people
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
engage
in
our
market
and,
yes,
I
think
it
is
the
ultimate
goal
for
people
to
have
like
those
direct
sales
like
things,
but
you
know
we're
talking
about
companies
at
their
inception
where
they
are
not
producing
millions
of
cars
a
year,
they're
not
producing
thousands
of
cars
a
month.
C
They
are
producing
like
30
000
cars
like
a
year,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
you
know
they're,
probably
not
going
to
start
off
right
away,
although
they
would
like
to.
I
think,
that's
something
that
we
want
to
get
into.
I
think
the
big
key
is
here
is
in
existing
law.
We
have
one
company
that
is
allowed
to
set
up
brick
and
mortar.
They
are
allowed
to
sell
directly.
They
are
allowed
to
train
people
to
service
their
vehicles
if
they
need
to.
I
think
this
could
end
up
with
a
new
economy.
C
As
we
have
these
people
coming
in,
we
could
have
boutique
mechanics
that
are
specializing
and
training.
We
can
work
with
our
community
colleges
to
make
sure
that
we're
training
people
how
to
service
like
electric
vehicles,
there's
some
common
components
amongst
all
the
different
electric
vehicles-
and
this
is
just
a
new
avenue
for
us
to
increase
revenue
to
increase
job
skills,
job
training
high,
paying
like
computer,
like
jobs
in
our
in
our
state.
C
So
I
I
think
that's
there's
that,
and
I
think
daniel
might
have
some
other
things
to
comment
on
your
second
dairy
question.
O
Yes,
I
I
can
actually
sort
of
take
it
from
the
perspective
of
lemon
laws
and
and
what
happens
in
the
event
of
bankruptcy.
So
I
think
the
concern
that
you
raise
assemblywoman
was
you
know.
Ultimately,
several
of
these
startups
are
unlikely
to
survive.
O
So
in
I
believe
it's
the
federal
motor
vehicle
safety
standards
act
federally.
There
are
requirements
that,
in
the
event
of
a
bankruptcy
that
warranty
provisions
are
preempt
any
kind
of
bankruptcy
to
the
the
future
creditor.
So
exactly
the
situation
you
outlined,
parts
manuals
and
so
forth
need
to
be
preserved
and
provided
in
order
to
satisfy
the
warranty
claims
on
on
vehicles.
O
Those
ultimately
would
be.
It
would
need
to
be
implemented
by
the
entity,
whatever
that
that
that
came
to
be
the
the
there
are.
There
are
a
couple
of
case
studies
that
that
we
can,
we
can
suggest
here
and
they
all
sort
of
revolve
around
the
traditional
dealer
network.
You
have
labels
that
have
come
and
gone.
O
Oldsmobile
is
the
one
that
comes
to
mind,
but
under
gm's
brand
and
ultimately
the
dealers
have
continued
to
serve
those
serve
those
customers,
even
after
the
the
vehicles,
have
are
no
longer
in
existence.
O
On
the
contrary,
you
have
a
company
like
delorean,
which
also
went
through
the
dealer
system
and
ultimately
went
through
bankruptcy
proceedings.
O
Those
vehicles
were
serviced
for
very
limited
time
and
then,
when
the
contractual
obligations
were
removed
from
the
dealers,
those
vehicles
were
stopped,
being
serviced,
parts
went
to
short
supply
and
it
became
this
sort
of.
O
I
don't
know
how
to
describe
other
than
sort
of
a
cult
vehicle
that
that
has
been
kept
up
over
over
time.
We,
ultimately
you
know
view
our
technology
and
our
capabilities
as
something
that
can
stand
the
test
of
time.
But
again
I
go
back
to
the
to
the
notion
that
if,
if
passes
prologue,
you
change
the
law
once
for
tesla,
they
set
up
sales
and
service
centers.
O
I
we
we
cannot
scout
space.
We
cannot
invest
in
resources
without
ultimately
having
a
permissive
structure
that
actually
allows
us
to
apply
for
a
license.
So
I
I
can't
give
you
the
type
of
assurance.
Without
knowing
that
this
law
is
ultimately
going
to
be
changed,
but
we
are,
we
are
seeking
the
rights
and
the
ability
to
to
provide
consumers.
The
assurances
that
that
you
all
are
seem
very
clearly
concerned
with.
S
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Most
of
my
questions
were
asked
previously
and
my
concerns
one
thing
that
I
that
I
did.
Maybe
I
missed
it
in
your
presentation,
but
you
know
current
franchise,
dealer's
legacy
or
not
invest
a
lot
into
the
community,
invest
a
lot
in
nevada
in
various
ways,
and
I
didn't
catch
your
presentation.
If
that's
part
of
your
plan,
you
know
not
trying
to
hold
you
to
anything,
but
does
your
business
model
currently
afford
any
investment
in
nevada
in
the
community.
O
Thank
you
excuse
me.
Thank
you,
assemblyman
for
the
question.
We
are
just
starting
out,
so
it's
hard
for
me
to
sort
of
pre-destin
what
what
what
our
relationship
in
the
community
would
look
like,
but
I
think
there's
every
expectation
that
our
the
people
that
work
in
our
facility
will
certainly
be
of
the
community,
and
the
company
does
pride
itself
on
giving
back
to
the
community.
We
have
a
in
our
short
history
in
the
places
where
we
are
where
we
are
located.
O
That
is
a
that
is
a
principle
of
the
company
that
we'd
like
to
imbue
throughout
our
sales
and
service
network.
C
And
I
would
rochelle
win
for
the
record.
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
that
daniel
is
here,
you
know
on
behalf
of
lucid
motors,
but
I
think
his
like
spirit
and
his
met,
like
his
message
also
resonates
with
the
other
69
or
so
like
startup
or
other
evie.
Only
manufacturers
across
the
country.
They
just
want
the
opportunity
to
come
and
invest
in
our
state.
C
They
want
to
be
able
to
compete,
they
want
to
live
the
american
dream
and
build
up
a
product
from
the
ground
up
and
not
be
burdens
by,
like
you
know,
restrictions
on
a
free
market
economy.
So
I
think
those
are
all
things
that
we
would
hope
that
we
would
do.
Obviously
you
know
we
don't
have
statutory
requirements
that
people
give
back
to
the
community.
C
I
know
that
they
do
and
I
would
hope
that
any
business
that
comes
to
the
unit
comes
to
nevada,
whether
it's
a
restaurant,
you
know
a
daycare,
a
you
know
a
car
company,
an
eevee
manufacturer
that
they
would
also
have
that
same,
like
spirit
of
community
giving.
S
Follow
up,
madam
chair,
I
just
you
know,
as
you
you've
mentioned,
the
one
business
that
does
this
in
nevada
well,
part
of
their
business
model
included
an
investment
in
the
community
that
was
part
of
their
business
model,
and
so
I
just
was
curious.
If
that
there
was
some
pre-thought
into
a
business
model
that
included
investment
into
the
community,
which
they
want
to
be
a
part
of.
That
would
only
make
sense
to
me.
The
the
only
other
question
I
had
was
in
in.
S
I
think
somebody
asked
it,
but
halfway
asked
it,
but
how
much
are
these
vehicles
going
to
cost.
O
Daniel
witt,
lucid
for
the
record,
excuse
me
chair
for
not
not
following
that
protocol.
So
for
our
company,
the
the
price
of
vehicles
ranges
from
the
high
60s
all
the
way
to
the
high
hundred
and
sixties.
I
think
you'll
hear
testimony
from
rivien
the
company
that
the
assemblyman
alluded
to
a
little
bit
later
and
so
I'll.
Let
them
detail
theirs.
O
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
is
that
these
cars
will
run
the
gamut
and,
of
course,
lucid
intends
to
offer
lower
priced
vehicles
as
it
as
as
we
progress
into
selling
more
vehicles
over
time.
O
It's
simply
a
a
product
of
of
where
our
technology
is
today
but
again-
and
I
think
catherine
stinking
from
plug
in
america
could
detail
this
even
better
than
I,
with
the
cost
of
batteries
coming
down
with
the
efficiency
of
the
batteries
going
up,
you're
going
to
see
mass
market
vehicles
in
this
decade
from
a
variety
of
manufacturers,
those
that
are
both
sold
directly
from
two
consumers
and
those
that
are
sold
through
franchises.
C
C
You
know,
opportunities
and
choices
for
consumers
in
nevada
and,
ultimately,
I
think
their
goal
is
to
be
able
to
set
up
shop
and
have
that
infrastructure
here,
like
locally
as
they
grow
their
business
model.
I
think
it's.
The
very
definition
of
the
american
dream
and
pulling
yourself
up
by
your
bootstraps
is
starting
from
the
ground
up
and
like
building
up
into
a
business
that
is
more
successful
that
you
can
have
all
those
opportunities.
C
They
won't
have
the
same
tax
abatements
that
we
gave.
You
know
the
other
company
that
this
bill,
like
you
know,
addresses,
but
I
think,
having
a
favorable
market
for
electric
vehicles
will
encourage
other
electric
vehicles,
companies
to
come
in
and
want
to
sell
their
product,
potentially
move
manufacturing
to
our
state
and
other
service
and
other
job
skills,
training
that
we
will
bring
and
just
branch
out
our
economy
here,
and
I
believe
catherine,
is
still
on
the
line.
N
Yes,
I'm
always
thanks
assemblywoman.
This
is
catherine
stankin
with
plug
in
america
and
I'm
always
happy
to
talk
about
the
affordability
of
the
vehicles,
and
I
did
show
the
slide
that
showed
that
the
battery
prices
are
coming
down
and
that's
really
the
bulk
of
what
the
car
is
there
and
definitely
by
2024,
and
that's
even
forecasted
a
couple
years
earlier
than
was
expected
a
few
years
ago,
but
by
2024
the
upfront
cost
of
the
vehicles
will
be
at
parity
with
gas
cars.
That's
on
average.
N
Of
course,
there's
always
going
to
be
the
higher
end
and
there's
going
to
be
some
on
the
lower
end.
There.
Gm,
for
example,
offers
the
chevy
bolt
with
a
b,
which
is,
I
believe,
starting
at
about
37
000,
msrp
and
tesla
offers
the
model
3,
which
is
also
around
35
000
msrp,
currently
on
the
market,
you'll
see
some
that
are
lower
than
that.
I
think
there's
some,
that
about
27
thousand
starting
ranging
up
to
you
know,
there's
different
luxury
lines,
as
there
are
for
all
gas
cars
on
the
road
right
now
too.
N
I
just
also
like
to
point
out
that
some
of
the
benefits
that
the
drivers
are
the
savings
that
they'll
see
so
that,
while
that
upfront
cost
might
be
a
little
higher
right
now
before
we
get
to
the
2024,
the
price
parity
part
by
2050
is
expected
that
the
nevada
driver-
I'm
not
talking
about
other
states,
now
just
nevada-
that
the
nevada
driver
will
be
saving
about
2
200
per
year
by
switching
to
electric,
and
then
you
add
in
of
course,
some
of
the
maintenance
savings,
because
electric
vehicles,
their
maintenance,
is
consumer
reports,
did
a
study
that
showed
that
it's
half
the
cost
of
what
it
would
be
for
a
gas
car,
and
so
it
evens
out
over
the
cost
of
the
of
the
lifetime
of
the
vehicle
for
the
driver.
H
Chair
and
I
just
have
a
question
you
mentioned
about
existing
sales-
you
know
in
franchise
dealers
in
nevada,
and
so
I'm
just
curious.
This
would
be
for
elusive
motors
or
one
you
know.
One
of
the
manufacturers
is
what
would
prohibit
your
business
model
from
contracting
with
the
current
dealer
in
the
state
or
opening
your
own
dealership,
for
instance?
What
is
that?
What
does
that
do
to
your
your
business
model
and
how
would
it
impact
you.
O
So
I
think
it
by
technical
terms
within
the
the
nevada
law.
What
we
are
actually
seeking
is
the
ability
to
open
up
our
own
dealership,
and
but
I
understand
from
the
merit
of
your
question,
I
think
what
you're
asking
is:
why
can't
we
partner
with
a
a
an
individual
in
in
the
state?
Already
we
view
the
two
frankly
as
incompatible
right
now,
there
are
about
five
profit
centers,
for
which
a
dealer
ultimately
makes
a
majority
of
the
makes
all
of
their
revenue
sales
service,
titling
and
a
couple
of
others.
O
The
the
biggest
one
by
far
is
service
sales.
They
negotiate
on
top
of
the
price
that
they
purchase
the
vehicle
wholesale
from
the
manufacturer,
and
so
that's
the
price
when
a
customer
goes
to
a
a
a
dealership
that
they
ultimately
can
negotiate
to
some
extent,
you
cannot
negotiate
service
service
is
where
the
bulk
of
the
profit
is
made
and
for
us,
as
a
new
manufacturer,
with
an
electric
with
an
electric
vehicle
that
absolutely
still
requires
service
but
much
less
service.
We
don't
believe
that
that
profit
center
for
a
dealership
ultimately
can
satisfy
this.
O
The
size
and
scope
of
the
traditional
franchises
instead,
the
natural
result,
would
be
to
raise
the
price
of
the
vehicle
artificially
in
order
to
regain
the
necessary
profit
to
sustain
that
that
dealership,
the
profit
needs
to
come
from
somewhere.
Ultimately,
we
want
to
sell
the
price
for
a
specific
amount.
O
The
margin,
obviously
is
what
we
need
to
survive,
but
no
more
than
that,
and
then
we
are
the
ones
that
are
looking
to
invest
in
those
service
footprints
where
it
is
not
a
profit
center
and
ultimately
that's
that
philosophical
difference
which
which
we
view
is
the
incompatibility
that
I
referred
to.
A
Thank
you.
Our
final
question
on
this
agenda
item
will
be
assembly
and
watts.
F
Thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair,
I
I
have
a
few
questions,
they're
very
quick,
clarifying
questions
with
you,
and
so
just
for
daniel,
just
to
be
clear.
F
So
what
this
bill
will
do
is
allow
these
manufacturers
to
set
up
shop
in
the
state,
but
they
will
follow
all
of
the
same
requirements
under
law
that
any
other
manufacturer
has
to
under
state
or
federal
law,
and
they
would
have
to
follow
the
same
rules
and
regulations
and
law
set
up
for
say,
sellers
or
dealers.
F
If
this
were
to
take
effect,
is
that
correct
for
the
record?
Yes,
that
is
correct.
Thank
you.
Another
question.
As
you
mentioned
these
vehicles,
you
know
some
of
them
are
accepting
pre-orders
now,
and
you
touched
on
this
briefly,
but
essentially,
if
we
don't
pass
this
bill,
people
will
still
be
able
to
purchase
vehicles
here.
F
The
sales
tax
may
be
remitted
here,
but
now
the
barrier
is
going
to
be
that
they
have
to
travel
out
of
state
in
order
to
retrieve
that
vehicle
kind
of
creating
a
a
barrier
for
access,
and
then
there
will
not
be
facilities
here
in
the
state
that
can
provide
things
like
test
drives
service
and
other
services
at
a
local
level.
Is
that
correct.
O
For
the
record,
there
are
nuances
to
that.
I
would
note
that
you
know
without
being
able
to
put
facilities
in
the
state.
We
ultimately
are
depriving
the
state
of
tax
dollars,
property
tax
dollars
and
employer
tax
dollars
that
we
would
otherwise
pay.
We
generally
will
try
and
work
within
the
law
as
best
we
can
to
in
to
eliminate
any
encumbrances
that
consumers
would
otherwise
feel
if
the
laws
were
less
than
ideal,
but
in
general.
O
Yes,
these
are
the
these
impediments
would
would
have
an
impact
on
the
consumer
experience
and
create
difficulties
both
for
consumers,
as
well
as
the
the
manufacturer
to
ultimately
meet.
F
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
just
following
up
really
briefly
on
the
point
you
made
about
service
and
the
role
that
that
plays
in
revenue
under
the
franchise
auto
dealer
model,
and
this
may
be
a
question
mark
for
catherine,
could
you
speak
to
that?
I
mean,
I
think
I've
seen
some
facts
and
figures
that
show
that
the
service
costs
for
electric
vehicles
are
less
than
half
of
what
they
are
for
gasoline
vehicles
and
that
the
requirements
for
service
frequency
are
much
less
because
the
of
the
lack
of
need
for
oil
changes.
N
Sure
this
is
catherine
with
plug
in
america
and
I'm
happy
to
speak
to
that.
Yes,
that's
correct,
there's
ten
times
fewer
moving
parts
in
an
electric
vehicle
than
in
a
gas
vehicle,
and
so
there's
not
as
much
maintenance
needed
whatsoever.
In
fact,
usually
the
things
that
need
to
be
replaced
are
the
brake
pads,
the
windshield
wipers
and
then
the
washer
fluid.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
max
when
it
comes
to
the
service.
A
Thank
you
so
seeing
no
other
questions,
we
will
go
to
broadcast
staff
and
see
if
there's
anyone
in
the
queue
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
114.
I
N
Hello,
my
name
is
sarah
steinberg.
That's
s
a
r,
a
h
s,
t
e,
I
n,
b
e
r
g
and
I'm
a
policy
principal
with
advanced
energy
economy.
Aw
represents
a
variety
of
companies
that
span
the
advanced
transportation
sector.
These
companies
represent
manufacturers
of
electric
vehicles
of
different
sizes
from
small
low-speed
vehicles
to
large
heavy-duty
vehicles,
charging
infrastructure
providers,
grid
integration,
solution,
firms,
fleet
operators
and
companies
providing
supporting
technologies
and
software
services.
N
Today
I
would
like
to
note
away
strong
support
for
ab114
to
allow
for
the
direct
to
consumer
sale
of
electric
vehicles
by
electric
vehicle-only
manufacturers.
This
bill
addresses
one
of
the
major
barriers
to
ev
adoption
vehicle
availability.
It
would
make
ebees
more
accessible
to
nevadans
at
their
time
of
purchase.
N
Additionally,
this
bill
would
boost
the
number
of
easy
retailers
in
the
state,
increase
state
and
local
sales
tax
revenues
and
create
new
jobs.
The
electric
vehicle
space
offers
nevada
a
number
of
exciting
benefits,
but
the
market
will
only
be
able
to
help
grow
and
diversify
the
economy.
If
consumers
have
that
full
access
to
in-state
electric
vehicle
purchasing
options,
we
know
that
the
potential
for
the
eb
market
to
be
a
catalyst
for
economic
diversification
and
recovery
here
is
significant.
N
N
Then
there
are
secondary
benefits
to
all
electric
rate
payers,
regardless
of
what
they
drive
as
more
and
more
ev
drivers
increase
the
number
of
kilowatt
hours
sold
on
the
system
and
put
downward
pressure
on
electric
rates,
allowing
direct
sales
tells
ev
companies
that
work
in
and
around
vehicle
manufacturing
and
charging
infrastructure.
That
nevada
is
a
worthwhile
place
to
invest
their
private
resources.
N
I
B
Hello,
my
name
is
leslie
hayward.
B
L-E-S-L-I-E-H-A-Y-W-A-R-D
good
good
afternoon
to
the
honorable
members
of
the
committee
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
for
the
record
today.
I
am
the
manager
of
policy
communications
at
rivian
automotive,
which
has
been
discussed
so
far
in
this
in
this
hearing-
and
I
I'm
in
support
of
ab114
to
allow
manufacturers
like
us
to
sell
our
electric
vehicles
directly
in
nevada
a
quick
background.
We
are
an
independent
u.s
company
founded
in
2009.
B
We
are
a
mission
to
keep
the
world
adventurous
forever
and
we
intend
to
accomplish
this
through
the
development,
production
and
distribution
of
all
electric
trucks
and
sport
utility
vehicles.
We
also
have
a
project
with
amazon
to
develop
and
produce
a
hundred
thousand
electric
medium
duty
delivery
vans,
which
is
the
largest
electric
vehicle
purchase
in
history
and
something
we're
very
proud
of.
B
I
know
there's
already
been
a
lot
of
discussion,
I'm
short
on
time,
but
I
did
want
to
just
weigh
in
on
a
couple
of
the
issues
that
were
raised
in
the
questions
that
were
raised
with
for
for
daniel
at
lucid
and
clarify
some
of
the
points
that
he
he
made
very
well.
But
you
know
out
of
respect
for
the
questions
that
were
that
were
asked
and
the
concern
of
the
committee
members,
I'm
just
going
to
try
and
speak
to
them
very
quickly.
B
Nevada's
residents
are
put
at
an
inconvenience
by
having
to
travel
to
their
neighboring
states,
sometimes
to
take
delivery
or
to
do
test
drives
or
to
service
their
vehicle
or
to
learn
more
about
it.
We
have
a
robust
plan
to
provide
service
because
we
know
this
is
very
important
to
our
success
as
a
young
company.
We
intend
to
be
within
one
hour
of
75
percent
of
our
customers
and
within
four
hours
of
96
through
a
combination
of
brick-and-mortar
service
locations
and
mobile
service
vehicles.
B
So
these
are
very
serious
concerns
for
us
and
again
it
reiterates
the
reason
why
we
need
direct
sales
in
nevada,
because
we
can
already
deliver
the
vehicles,
but
we
need
the
the
physical
footprint
to
properly
educate
our
customers
on
how
to
safely
use
the
car
and
to
be
able
to
fix
anything
that
goes
wrong
as
we
deliver
these
vehicles
and
and
get
this
technology
on
the
road.
B
I
also
want
to
respond
to
concerns
about
the
potential
loss
of
jobs
at
deal.
Sorry,
oh,
I
thought
I
thought
somebody
was
was
cutting
in
so
oh
30
seconds.
Finally,
what
what
I'll
just
say
is
that
the
the
in
the
inability
to
sell
a
vehicle
directly
from
a
manufacturer?
B
This
is
unique
to
the
new
car
market.
There's
really
no
other
place
in
the
economy.
Where
you
can't
buy
something
directly
from
the
manufacturer,
think
about
food,
you
can
buy
it
from
the
farmers
market
or
you
can
buy
it
from
the
grocery
store.
You
can
buy
boots
from
dick's
sporting
goods
or
you
can
order
them
directly
from
patagonia.
A
I
D
Thank
you
andrew
linhardt
l-I-n-h-a-r-d-t.
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
electrification
coalition,
but
I'm
actually
reading
the
testimony
for
admiral
dennis
blair
b-l-a-I-r
he
apologizes
for
a
last-minute
situation
that
stopped
him
from
being
able
to
be
here.
Admiral
blair
was
the
director
of
national
intelligence
from
january
2009
to
may
2010
and
previously
served
as
commander-in-chief
u.s
pacific
command.
D
This
testimony,
and
as
I
speak
to
you
today
on
behalf
of
the
energy
security
leadership
council,
a
project
of
the
bipartisan
energy
advocacy
group
safe
in
support
of
ab114
formed
in
2006.
Our
group
is
a
coalition
of
four-star
admirals
and
generals
like
myself,
who
have
seen
the
astonishing
cost
of
our
oil
dependence
in
the
loss
of
america's
blood
and
treasure
overseas
and
business
letter
leaders
who
find
common
purpose
in
the
urgent
need
to
reduce
our
nation's
oil
dependence
and
build
a
transportation
system
of
the
future.
D
Here
in
the
u.s
safe
works,
alongside
its
sister
organization,
the
electrification
coalition
to
help
states,
including
nevada,
support
this
tradition
transition.
The
issue
of
oil
dependence
has
been
paramount
to
america's
national
security
for
over
a
hundred
years
under
a
popular
narrative.
This
issue
has
been
resolved
and
oil
is
in
terminal
decline,
but
markus
market
fundamentals
tell
a
different
story,
while
electric
vehicle
technology
has
demonstrated
incredible
improvements.
Since
the
current
wave
of
commercial
introduction,
oil
still
accounts
for
91
percent
of
all
transportation
energy.
D
D
Our
group
has
long
seen
electric
vehicles,
and
specifically
the
domestic
ev
industry
as
the
most
promising
solution
to
break
oil
when
break
oils
monopoly
over
the
transportation
system
and,
as
the
world
shifts
from
gasoline
to
evs.
China's
dominance
of
the
entire
ev
supply
chain
makes
scaling
up
the
u.s
market
even
more
urgent,
as
as
has
been
made
clear
in
state
after
state.
Direct
sales
are
one
of
the
most
effective
and
powerful
policy
levers
to
enhance
ev
deployment.
D
So
80
percent
of
ev
sold
in
the
country
are
through
direct
sales
and
states
that
are
open
to
direct
sales,
see
adoption
rates
up
to
five
times
the
rates
of
states
that
are
closed,
even
in
the
absence
of
other
direct
incentives.
The
the
future
of
our
nation
depends
on
our
ability
to
control
our
destiny
with
regards
to
our
transportation
fuels
and
technologies.
D
Preventing
innovative
companies
like
those
who
join
me
in
testimony
today
from
bringing
their
vehicles
to
market
stands
in
the
way
of
our
need
to
transition
the
transportation
system.
While
I
understand
that
oil
auto
dealers
have
expressed
concerns
with
the
spill,
even
though
it
does
not
prevent
their
sales
of
evs
alongside
ev,
only
manufacturers,
the
importance
of
direct
sales
in
a
robust
domestic
ev
industry
has
implications
far
beyond
commercial
regulation.
D
Nevada,
nevada's,
economy
benefits
from
improved
access
to
electric
vehicles
and
the
related
demand
for
vehicles,
batteries
and
inputs
into
the
supply
chain.
When
the
company
is
already
in
the
state
and
to
others
that
make
it
may
come
well.
I
hope
the
committee
will
focus
on
their
task
of
evaluating
whether
new
ev
manufacturers,
like
tesla,
arriving,
lucid
lordtown
and
others
should
have
the
ability
to
choose
a
business
strategy
that
makes
sense
for
them
as
a
battle
for
american
leadership
in
the
global
ev
race.
D
This
is
a
country's
free
market.
Thank
you.
A
I
M
M
My
comments
today
are
based
on
the
mj
bradley.
Electric
vehicle
cost
benefit
analysis
report
for
nevada,
commissioned
by
wra
sweep
nrd
and
r
and
nrdc
and
published
last
month.
Opening
the
battle
nevada's
vehicle
market
to
direct
sales
model
will
allow
many
emerging
new
ev-only,
auto
manufacturers
to
do
business
in
nevada.
M
This
is
a
key
step
to
achieving
the
state's
goal
of
zero
greenhouse
gas
emissions
economy
wide
by
2050
as
set
forth
in
senate
bill.
254
transportation
is
nevada's
largest
source
of
greenhouse
gases,
accounting
for
36
percent
of
emissions.
However,
evs
do
not
emit
any
direct
emissions
as
nevada
continues
to
decarbonize
its
generating
resources.
Evs
will
also
become
cleaner.
The
mj
bradley
report
demonstrates
the
social
value
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
M
M
The
mj
bradley
report
projects
that,
under
an
ambitious
ev
adoption
scenario
with
managed
eb
charging
residential
payers
could
see
123
dollars
in
annual
savings
by
2050
due
to
evs
evs,
also
exert
downward
pressure
on
rates
from
increased
revenue
from
the
additional
ev
load,
avoided,
peak
capacity
costs
and
efficient
use
of
the
distribution
system
passing
assembly
bill
114
is
key
to
providing
greater
access
to
evs
and
achieving
nevada
state
clinicals.
Thank
you.
I
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
For
the
record.
My
name
is
christy
carrera
d-h-r-I-f-p-I
c-a-b-r-e-r-a.
I
am
the
policy
and
advocacy
director
for
the
nevada
conservation
league
here
in
support
of
ab-114
transportation
is
the
largest
emitter
of
greenhouse
gas
pollution
in
nevada,
and
our
health
economy
and
environment
all
suffer
as
a
result.
Gasoline-Powered
vehicles
produce
particulate
matter,
ozone
and
carbon
monoxide.
M
These
tailpipe
emissions
cause
air
pollution
that
is
damaging
to
our
health
and
has
been
linked
to
an
increase
in
instances
of
heart
disease,
lung
cancer
and
asthma
among
nevada
families.
The
2020
state
of
the
air
report
from
the
american
lung
association
gave
clark,
lyon
and
washoe
counties
an
f
grade
for
smog
pollution
naming
vehicle
emissions
as
a
primary
cause
of
unhealthy
air
days.
Low-Income
neighborhoods
and
communities
of
color
have
often
been
located
around
high
traffic
corridors
that
are
major
sources
of
pollution.
M
As
a
result,
these
communities
have
had
their
health
disproportionately
impacted
by
vehicle
emissions.
Ab-114
will
increase
electric
vehicle
options
available
for
test
drive
and
purchase,
which
will
likely
lead
to
an
increased
adoption
of
evs
in
our
state.
By
putting
more
of
these
cars
on
our
roads,
we
can
reduce
harmful
air
pollution
linked
to
asthma
and
other
ailments,
while
helping
our
state
meet
its
climate
goals
and
investing
in
our
local,
clean
energy
economy.
We
urge
your
support.
Thank
you.
I
I
M
We
are
in
support
of
av-114
for
several
reasons
and
matt
rubin
from
wra
has
covered
the
majority
of
them.
I
would
like
to
just
focus
on
the
key
findings
that
were
also
from
the
mj
bradley
report
that
he
mentioned
about
ev,
reducing
costs
for
drivers
and
that
they,
you
know
when
it's
the
main
findings.
M
Deploying
evs
at
scale
in
nevada
would
also
save
more
than
4
billion
gallons
of
gasoline
through
2050,
and
it
saves
out-of-state
fuel
spending
as
well,
and
we
have
also
submitted
the
mj
bradley
report
as
an
exhibit.
So
it
is
also
located
on
nellis
if
you
are
interested
in
pulling
up
the
report
and
finding
more
about
the
benefits
that
electric
vehicles
would
bring
to
nevada.
M
A
Thank
you
for
your
comments
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
today.
Do
we
have
any
other
callers
in
the
queue
for
support.
I
M
D-Y-L-A-N-S-U-L-L-I-V-A-N
and
I'm
a
senior
scientist
at
the
natural
resources
vince
castle,
an
international
nonprofit
environmental
group,
we
have
around
25
000
members
and
online
activists
in
the
state
of
nevada,
I'm
based
in
reno,
and
I'm
here
to
testify
in
support
of
ab-114.
M
M
M
It's
really
simple:
for
a
customer
to
buy
an
ev,
they
need
to
be
able
to
to
purchase
the
ev
that
that
that
best
suits
their
lifestyle.
Vehicles
like
rivian's
just
totally
awesome,
r1t
truck
and
a
customer
shouldn't
have
to
furtively
make
a
trip
to
oregon
to
buy
that
vehicle
nevada
needs
to
ensure
that
residents
are
actually
able
to
purchase
these
vehicles
and
not
be
limited
to
only
what's
available
from
a
traditional
dealership.
M
Direct
sales
allow
for
different
vehicle
manufacturers
to
enter
the
competitive
market
and
provide
these
cars
to
customers
easily
and
effectively.
These
efforts
in
this
bill
won't
stop
people
from
purchasing
vehicles
from
traditional
dealerships.
Instead,
they
will
help
to
enrich
the
market
and
provide
customers
with
choice
over
vehicle
types
and
and
and
how
they
want
to
purchase
their
vehicle.
We
urge
you
to
support
the
bill
and
thank
you.
A
I
I
M
The
intent
of
it
was
to
create
jobs
and
also
a
massive
investment
in
the
tesla
gigafactory,
which
tesla
did
and
they
started.
Selling
direct
had
a
lot
of
problems
initially
with
service
because
they
had
to
fly
a
mechanic
in
or
a
technician
in,
and
it
wasn't
very
convenient
for
the
consumers
and
when
we
changed
the
law,
the
law
was
changed
that
you
had
to
be
an
electric
vehicle
dealer
as
of
january
16,
2016,
and
only
making
and
selling
electric
vehicles.
M
Now
this
bill
ab114
wants
to
remove
the
january
2016
language
and
allow
66
different
electric
vehicle
companies
to
sell
direct
in
the
state
of
nevada
without
any
investment
or
any
dealer
body
in
nevada.
I
guarantee
you.
This
will
create
a
major
consumer
issue
by
the
lack
of
convenient
warranty
service,
not
having
a
dealer
local
dealer
to
go
to
for
assistance
in
any
sales
or
service
problem,
and
not
only
that
ab-114
would
create
a
major
unfairness
to
the
new
car
franchise
dealers
in
nevada.
M
What
the
intent
was
not
to
have
out-of-state
ev
companies,
with
no
investment
dump
cars
and
trucks
in
nevada
and
leave
consumers
without
support
for
their
vehicles,
and
not
only
that
av-114
would
damage.
A
major
industry
in
nevada
is
historically
has
been
one
of
the
largest
generators
of
sales
tax
for
the
state
of
nevada,
plus
the
franchise
new
car
dealers
support
their
local
communities,
colleges,
schools
and
many
charities.
I
doubt
if
outside
companies
would
do
the
same.
M
Saturday,
we
last
saturday
we
had
safe
kids
in
there
for
the
seat
belt
deal,
but
you
know
they
talked
about
some
other
things
like
charging
costs
check
out
what
it
cost
to
charge
them
I've
had
some
people
tell
me
that
they
spend
more
on
your
electric
bill
in
a
month
than
what
they
used
to
fill
up
their
vehicles
with
the
grid.
In
the
summer
time,
on
kitsky
lane,
we
get
brownouts
all
the
time,
particularly
people
in
texas.
How
would
they
have
charged
their
tesla
when
the
windmills
quit
working?
A
I
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
brian
walker,
with
the
retail
association
of
nevada,
the
retail
association
of
nevada
agrees
that
there
are
steps.
Nevada
can
be
taking
to
encourage
its
greenhouse
gas
goals,
but
this
bill
is
not
about
saving
the
environment.
It's
about
creating
an
uneven
playing
ground
between
online
and
brick
and
mortar
retailers.
I
M
I'm
the
senior
vice
president
of
government
affairs
for
the
vegas
chamber.
First,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
bill's
three
primary
bill
sponsors
for
their
time
and
conversations
we've
had
about
ab-114.
I
greatly
appreciate
their
time
and
dialogue,
while
the
chamber,
of
course
welcomes
innovation,
entrepreneurship
and
diversification
efforts.
We
do
have
several
concerns
with
the
bill,
one,
the
impact
that
ab-114
could
have
on
employers,
employees
that
currently
work
in
nevada's,
auto
industry
and
two
the
unintended
consequences
that
this
bill
may
have
for
consumers
as
well.
M
The
impact
on
job
losses
in
the
nevada
industry
is
a
concern
that
we've
heard
from
our
members
for
employers
in
the
sector.
Regarding
consumers,
we
do
have
concerns.
Have
you
heard
from
others
about
the
impact
it
could
have
on
competitive
pricing,
responsive
customer
service,
community
engagement
and
accountability?
That
could
happen.
We
do
believe
this
concept
needs
that
further
dialogue
from
the
economics
and
job
perspective,
and
we
appreciate
each
of
the
bill's
sponsors
openness
for
further
dialogue.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
your
time.
A
Okay,
I
we
do
have
a
few
that
are
on
zoom
that
have
been
invited
to
our
zoom
and
we
will
start
with
mr
mckay,
and
I
will
remind
everyone
that
there
are
three
minutes.
F
Madam
chair
andy
mckay,
with
all
due
respect.
S
S
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
alfredo
alonso
with
the
law
firm
of
lewis
and
roca
today
on
behalf
of
the
alliance
of
automobile
innovation,
and
I
had
kurt
augustine
who's
the
senior
director
for
state
affairs
on
the
phone,
I'm
not
sure,
if
he's
still
waiting
there
but
I'll,
hopefully
he's
able
to
testify
as
well.
I
think
it's
important
for
for
for
everybody
to
understand
that
we
don't
have
a
disagreement
with
evs
being
the
future
of
our
industry.
It
is
it
probably
more
proper.
S
Is
zero
emission
vehicles
are
going
to
be
the
future
of
industry?
I
think
it's
also
important
to
know
that
it's
going
to
be
driven
by
the
people
that
you
see
behind
me
in
this
in
this
logo.
S
It's
it's
going
to
be
the
legacy
manufacturers
and
it's
going
to
be
the
the
dealers
who
drive
this
market,
and-
and
so,
if
you
look
at
all
these,
these
studies
that
you've
heard
of
they,
of
course,
include
the
evs
that
are
being
created
and
built
right
now
by
people
that
are
much
smarter
than
I,
but
doing
incredible
things.
You're
gonna
see
in
2021
a
huge
number
of
new
evs
and
by
2025
you're,
going
to
see
over
100
new
models.
S
I
think
that's
really
important,
because
this
is
where
the
driver
is
it's
it's
by
the
industry
that
has
been
there
for
over
100
years.
I
think
some
of
the
important
things
to
remember
is
we're
talking
about
10.3
million
jobs
nationally,
one
of
the
biggest
industries
in
the
country
over
over
650
billion
in
paychecks,
here
alone
in
nevada.
S
I
think
andy
and
his
folks
can
go
into
it
a
little
bit
more
more
significantly,
but
I
think
what's
what's
what's
important,
for
everybody
here
to
understand
is
that
we
are
not
in
disagreement
on
the
future
of
of
zero
emission
vehicles,
but
we
are
in
disagreement
on
how
we
get
there,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
understand
that
we
have
a
system
that
works.
It
works
for
the
consumer,
it
works
for
the
the
manufacturer
and
the
dealer.
S
S
I
think
that
the
allowing
of
of
of
this
group
of
of
startups
without
any
belt
and
suspenders
is
incredibly
risky
to
the
consumer,
while
the
innovation
is
amazing,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
catalyst
in
many
cases
for
some
of
the
cars
that
are
being
built,
the
idea
that
you
will
still
be
regulated
in
the
same
manner
and
that
the
rules
will
still
apply
in
the
same
manner
are
just
simply
not
true.
One
of
the
things
that's
important
to
remember
is
is
one
of
the
provisions
that
gets
taken
out.
S
If
you're,
not
a
a
dealer,
are
the
restrictions
on
monopolistic
financing
among
others,
they
won't
have
to
do
any
of
that.
They
won't
have
to
have
any
of
those
protections
they
can
choose,
whoever
they
want
to
finance
whatever
they
want
again
we're
talking
about
many
startups
that
don't
even
exist
today.
That
could
could
take
advantage
of
this
and
ultimately
come
to
the
marketplace.
S
There's
no
re,
there's
no
requirement
for
them
to
build
anything
they
can
just
sell.
So
I
think
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
that
this
is
incredibly
risky
and
again
it's
an
unlike
unlevel
playing
field
for
the
folks
that
have
been
here
for
decades
in
nevada
and
the
manufacturers
that
are
building
these
cars.
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
question,
and
this
can
be
answered
by
either
mr
alonso,
mr
mckay.
Really
it's
it's
a
story
that
is,
I
think,
really
timely
and
relevant.
A
friend
of
mine.
Let
me
know
that
she
was
in
las
vegas
and
went
to
go
down
to
the
subaru
dealership
to
check
out
crosstreks
and
was
really
interested
in
in
purchasing
the
hybrid
crosstrek
which
is
which
is
in
production.
F
However,
when
she
went
there,
they
indicated
that
they
don't
have
any
crosstreks
that
are
hybrids.
They
have
no
plans
to
sell
them.
They
only
sell
them
in
states
that
have
clean
car
standards
and
basically
require
additional
delivery
and
that,
even
if
they
bought
a
hybrid
crosstrek
from
out
of
state,
the
dealership
wouldn't
be
able
to
service
it
because
they
don't
have
the
the
technicians
or
the
parts
to
do
that.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
either
you
could
speak
to
that,
and
you
know.
I
know
that
this.
F
This
is
the
future
that
that
going-
and
you
acknowledge
that,
but
it
seems
like
we
still
have
consumers
here
in
nevada
today
that
are
interested,
including
from
major
manufacturers
in
in
obtaining
their
products,
but
are
having
some
difficulty
in
doing
so.
S
Madam
chair
to
you
and
through
you
to
to
mr
watt
I'll
I'll,
take
a
stab
at
it
then
and
then
obviously
have
andrew
jump
in
as
well.
I
think
I
think
what
what
we
have
to
remember
is
that
we
are
in
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic,
and
I
think
that
production
has
been.
You
know
drastically
cut
over
the
last
year.
I
think
they're
ramping
up
again,
so
I
think
you're
gonna
see
more
of
these
cars.
S
The
information
about
you
know
not
not
having
them
available
and
not
being
able
to
service
them,
really
surprises
me
and
I'll.
Get
you
an
answer
to
that
from
from
my
folks
and
and
hopefully,
andy
can
can
can
get
to
the
bottom
of
it
as
well.
Our
our
our
goal
is
to
sell
cars.
Our
goal
is
to
build
cars.
S
People
want,
so
it's
extremely
important
to
understand
that
if
those
cars
are
in
in
their
desirable
we're
going
to
find
a
way
to
get
them
to
the
to
the
end
user
and
andy's
folks
are
going
to
sell
them
to
you
and
service
them.
I
mean
that
is
the
goal
here.
There
is
no
intent
to
to
keep
us
in
any
track
that
the
public
doesn't
want.
S
Ultimately,
we
know
that
electric
is
and
and
zero
emission
is
our
ultimate
goal
so
much
so
that
gm
has
come
out
and
said
that
they're
gonna
go
all
all
electric
or
all
zero
emissions
by
2035..
That's
incredible!
If,
if,
if
you
look
at
a
company
that
size
and
the
number
of
cars
they
make
on
a
yearly
basis,
the
commitment
so
far
just
so
that
everybody
understands
so
far
to
date
from
my
clients
has
been
a
quarter
of
a
trillion
dollars
in
r
d
for
these
vehicles.
F
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
mr
lonzo
and
I
may
have
a
brief
follow-up
when
mr
mckay
addresses
that
as
well.
D
Oh,
thank
you,
mr
lorenzo.
I
was
hoping
to
catch
you
this
afternoon.
I
had
some
questions.
Maybe
to
ask
you,
and
one
of
the
things
I
was
talking
about
was
when
a
new
vehicle
is
built,
there's
usually
little
problems
and
with
a
new
vehicle
coming
out,
that's
never
been
built.
D
It's
going
to
come
into
a
community.
What
do
you?
What
do
you
expect
to
see
as
far
as
problems
with
the
vehicle?
It
doesn't
mean
it's
a
bad
vehicle.
It
just
means
that
there's
problems,
that's
going
to
be
associated
with
a
new
body
coming
out
a
new
car
coming
out.
It
could
be
anything
it
could
be
brakes.
It
could
be
starters,
it
could
be
all
kinds
of
stuff.
Could
you
hit
on
that?
Thank
you.
S
Sure,
and,
and
and
and
and
again,
madam
chair
to
you
and
through
you
to
mr
ellison
again,
I
think
the
dealers
can
probably
give
give
you
more
detail
there.
But
I
think,
as
far
as
the
manufacturer
is
concerned-
and
you
look
at
how
this
would
would
look
in
in
in
practice
again,
lucid
may
very
well
do
what
they
say
and
and
build
a
facility
in
in
nevada.
Ribbian
may
very
well
do
the
same
thing.
They
also
may
not
there's
absolutely
nothing
in
the
bill.
S
That
says
they
have
to
and
the
rest
of
the
folks
that
that
that
were
they're
part
of
this
wouldn't
either.
So,
yes,
there
is
a
chance
that
you
would
have
a
ribbian
representative,
walking
you
through
the
purchase
of
your
new
vehicle
and
going
through
that
entire
process
and
showing
you
how
everything
works,
and
hopefully
they
have
a
facility
that
they'd
be
able
to
fix
it
with.
S
But
I
don't
think
there's
a
guarantee
that
any
of
these
folks,
including
the
I
think,
have
heard
as
as
low
as
22
as
many
as
60
startups
that
could
come
into
the
state.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
them
would
do
the
same
thing,
and
that
is
the
big
concern
here
again.
They
would
be
on
a
on
a
on
a
different
playing
field.
They
wouldn't
have
to
spend
a
dime
in
nevada.
Now,
if
you
said
they're
going
to
build
a
manufacturing
facility
and
provide
us
with
jobs,
then
I
would
still
probably
not
like
it.
A
Thank
you
so,
along
those
lines,
I
have
a
question:
if
there
were
verbage
in
the
bill
that
would
require
the
brick
and
mortars
being
in
the
state
of
nevada
or
contracts
with
existing
dealerships
for
services.
Would
the
bill
be
something
that
you
may
not
like
but
could
live
with.
S
Again
without
madam
chair
alfredo
alonso
again
for
the
record
again
without
having
this
conversation
and
and
and
and
having
this
conversation
with
the
folks
in
front
of
me
here,
I
don't
have
an
answer,
but
we're
willing
to
talk
about
anything
we're
we're
always
willing
to
sit
down
at
the
table.
The
the
goal
here
is
never
to
just
simply
say
no
to
everything.
S
I
just
think
it's
important
to
understand
that
you
you
have
to
you,
you
can't
create
a
system,
that's
been
going
on
for
100
years
and
then
say:
we've
got
this
new
startup,
this
new
shiny
object.
We
want
to
let
them
in
and
they
don't
have
to
do
anything
different.
They
get
to
do
whatever
they
want
and-
and
that
is
a
concern
I
think
for
everybody.
A
S
Yes,
ma'am
chair,
andy's,
coming
right
back.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record
andrew
mckay
executive
director
of
the
franchise
auto
dealers,
association.
I
Mr
sandy's
zoom
line
that
is
going
to
make
a
comment,
and
after
after
him,
mr
justin
finley
would
like
to
make
some
comments
as
well.
K
A
J
Madam
chair,
my
father,
hopefully,
will
be
able
to
come
down.
We
had
one
other
gentleman
that
was
gonna
offer
some
testimony
before
my
father
comes
down
to
to
give
some
updates,
or
at
least
give
some
perspective
on
that,
but
yeah.
Thank
you.
T
Make
it
quick?
Okay,
madam
chair,
my
name
is
bob
price,
I'm
the
parts
director
for
the
dolan
auto
group.
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
little
brief
history
on
on
my
experience
in
the
car
business,
I
started
in
the
car
business
in
october
of
1976
at
reno.
Toyota
worked
as
a
parts
counter.
Man
worked
my
way
up
to
a
parts
manager
and
then
five
years
ago
into
the
parts
director.
So
my
experience
is
quite
extensive.
T
T
These
service
centers
toyota,
has
changed
rapidly
over
the
over
the
past
four
decades
and
the
biggest
change
that
I've
seen
in
the
last
probably
20
years
was
in
1997
when
the
toyota
hybrid
prius
came
out
now
one
of
the
things
that
a
lot
of
people
have
talked
about
in
the
past
is
is:
can
we
keep
up
with
the
servicing
on
these
cars?
Yes,
we
can.
What
we
do
is
we
get
trained
by
the
factory,
it's
an
investment
that
toyota
makes
on
their
r
d
side.
T
That
is
very,
very
extensive
that
that
car
was
in
the
works
for
several
years
before
it
was
ever
pushed
out
to
the
retail
market.
But
we
also
do
another
thing
that
I
think
is
really
important.
If
this
bill
happens
to
pass,
it's
going
to
really
shortcut
a
lot
of
the
worker
level,
because
we
train
our
technicians,
we
don't
just
get
technicians
right
off
the
street
that
have
all
the
knowledge
and
and
all
the
experience
that
they
need
to
work
on
these
cars.
So
what
we
do
is
we'll
start
a
technician.
T
We've
had
some
kids
come
off
the
wash
bay
that
work
over
into
the
lube
department
and
from
the
loop
department.
We
train
them
in
the
maintenance
department
and
then
work
them
way,
work
them
all
the
way
up
to
the
to
the
level
of
master
tech.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
seen
in
this
industry
over
the
last
several
years
is
there
is
no
vocational
training
anymore
in
our
in
our
school
systems.
T
T
It's
it's
been
this
way
in
the
car
business
ever
since
we
started,
and
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
ever
change,
but
what
we
want
to
do
is
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
on
the
same
playing
field
over
the
last
10
years
alone,
the
toyota
store
and
the
lexus
store,
have
spent
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of,
I
think
it's
45
million
dollars
on
new
facilities,
state
of
the
art
stuff.
We
have
all
of
our
our
certified
technicians.
T
You
have
to
be
certified
to
work
on
a
on
a
on
a
prius
hybrid,
because
if
you,
if
you're
not
certified
in
that
area,
you
can
actually
touch
a
high
voltage
line
that
can
do
some
severe
damage.
This
isn't
a
car
that
you
can
just
push
out
to
just
the
regular
technicians
out
there.
T
I
also
wanted
to
touch
on
the
consumer
side
of
this.
We're
consumed
we're
consumer
driven
on
on
our
end,
what
the
consumer
wants
is
what
the
manufacturers
produce
and
what
the
dealers
sell.
It's
not
something
that
we
just
say
we
want
to
stick
with
these,
these
fossil
fuel
cars
and
that's
it
we
don't.
We
want
to
go
with
whatever,
whatever
the
consumer
wants,
but
there's
another
aspect
of
this:
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
understand
and
that's
a
relationship
between
the
service
departments
and
the
consumer
once
they
buy
the
car
from
us.
A
T
A
J
J
T
Madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
good
afternoon,
this
is
justin
finley.
I
just
took
andy's
seat
here.
My
name
is
justin
finley
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
finley
automotive
group,
the
finley
automotive
group
is
obviously
family
owned
and
multi-generational
we've
been
in
business
for
60
years,
and
we
employ
more
than
600
nevadans
across
17
different
dealership
locations
in
las
vegas,
reno
and
henderson
nevada.
T
Our
employees
are
our
most
important
asset,
they're,
really
the
backbone
of
our
business,
and
we're
very
proud
that
during
the
covet
19
crisis,
we
have
not
laid
off
one
employee.
We're
very
very
proud
of
this.
We're
also
very
proud
of
the
fact
that
we
support
and
give
back
to
the
communities
we
serve.
T
T
T
The
other
thing
we've
done
is:
we've
really
invested
in
nevada.
Over
the
years
we've
invested
many
millions
of
dollars
in
land
and
facilities.
Our
nevada
dealerships
have
served
700
service
bays
right
now
devoted
to
servicing
our
customers
vehicles.
Franchise
dealers
are
here
to
provide
services
for
our
customers.
T
This
will
be
very
difficult
or
impossible
for
out-of-state
dealers
that
sell
directly
to
provide
things
such
as
maintenance
repair.
I
know
we
talked
about
electric
vehicles
not
having
some
of
the
maintenance
and
repairs
and
that's
true,
but
there
are
going
to
be
many
glitches.
We
all
have
computers.
We,
these
cars,
have
many
sensors.
We
sell
electric
cars
now
and
in
a
lot
of
cases,
they
take
a
lot
more
than
the
traditional
car
that
has
been
around
and
proven.
T
So,
let's
not
pretend
this
is
not
going
to
take
a
lot
of
service
business
and
if
a
manufacturer
doesn't
want
to
pay
that
that
to
the
you
know,
when
they
talk
about
our
service
profit
center.
I
think
that's
another
challenge
that
really
could
be
doping
into,
but
we
do
safety
recalls.
We
do
titling.
We
help
we
help
with
the
titling
assistance.
We
do
delivery
processes,
we
help
with
financing
and
many
many
other
things
at
the
dealership
level.
T
T
They've
gone
out
of
business
and
those
customers
still
have
those
cars
and
they
need
help
and
the
dealers
are
there
to
help
them,
so
don't
lose
sight
of
that,
and-
and
I
want
to
make-
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
we
fully
support
future
electric
vehicle
manufacturers
that
aren't
in
the
market
yet
and
we
would
love
to
sell
their
their
products
in
nevada.
T
We
just
feel
it
is
important
that
they
abide
by
the
existing
laws
that
require
them
to
have
local
franchise
representatives.
Our
current
system
is
stable.
It's
versatile!
It's
been
successful
in
both
good
times
and
badge.
It's
it's
been
great.
During
this
pandemic,
changing
the
rules
could
have
devastating
effects
on
our
current
system.
T
A
K
A
Q
Madam
chairman,
this
is
sandy
rafaeli,
I'm
a
auto
dealer
here
in
reno,
I
represent
five
manufacturers.
Our
dealership
started
in
1974,
but
our
family
was
here
during
the
60s,
so
we
have
a
very
long
and
storied
history
in
car
business
in
northern
nevada
we
represent
honda,
bmw,
volvo
porsche
mini
and
we
used
to
represent
oldsmobile.
Q
I
I
there's
been
so
many
things
said,
but
I
think
I
want
to
start
out
first
by
saying
I
am
absolutely
in
love
with
electric
cars.
I
have
been
driving
a
mini
electric.
I
still
would
be
driving
it,
except
that
my
mini
staff
said
it
has
to
stay
here
on
the
lot,
so
people
can
drive
it,
and
I
think
justin
is
the
same
way.
He's
spent
a
lot
of
time
driving
electric
cars
and
we
love
it.
So
we're
not
here
to
discuss
the
viability
of
them.
Q
We
see
it,
and
I
want
my
grandchildren
to
appreciate,
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
environment
when
we
have
electric
cars
everywhere.
I
think
one
of
my
main
concerns
is
for
all
of
the
employees
that
we've
hired.
We
have
165
employees.
20
of
them
have
been
with
us
for
over
15
years,
some
of
them
pushing
35
years
and
we're
proud
that
some
of
them
are
multi-generational,
they've
started
in
wash
bays
and
counting
parts
like
my
daughter,
started
and
moved
up
in
the
company
and
now
are
in
management
positions
and
making
very
good
salaries.
Q
In
the
face
of
the
manufacturer,
that's
not
going
to
be
a
really
healthy
and
fortuitous
thing
for
the
customer.
You
know
we.
We
are
the
you'd
like
to
say
middleman,
I'm
the
middle
woman,
but
we
take
pride
in
helping
customers
and
pushing
to
the
end.
I'm
not
sure
that
that
would
be
a
that's,
not
a
that's,
not
a
level
playing
field
for
the
customers.
Q
Q
We
would
be
happy
to
have
some
of
these
young
manufacturers
of
electric
cars
knock
on
our
door.
We've
got
the
bricks
and
mortar
we've
got
technicians
who
can
be
trained,
why
they
think
that
we
would
not
be
an
asset
to
their
chain
of
production.
I
I
don't
know
because
I
know
how
many
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
my
family
has
invested
in
two
little
franchise
and
two
little
buildings.
I
can
only
imagine
what
justin
and
his
family
haven't
have
invested.
Q
A
Q
A
I
I
Franchise
dealers
association,
I
will
have
to
truncate
my
my
arguments
as
alluded
to
earlier,
with
respect
to.
S
Our
dealers,
they're
literally
in
every
corner
of
this
state,
from
henderson
to
alcoa,
to
arena,
to
prompt
all
points
in
between.
I
You
know
winamaka
ili,
hearington
they're
there.
These
are
your
neighborhood.
A
A
Mr
mckay,
can
you
hear
me
there
seems
to
be
some
difficulty,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
on
your
end
or
our
end,
I
am
not
sure
if
you
have
submitted
your
written
comments,
but
if
you
have
not,
I
would
suggest
that
you
do
in
case
we're
not
able
to
remedy
the.
J
Got
it
oh
boy,
I
believe
he
ended
up
jobs
with
comprehensive
benefits
which
pay,
on
average
sixty
eight
thousand
eight
hundred
and
forty
two
dollars.
These
are
businesses
that
are
the
fabric
of
our
communities.
They
always
step
up
to
cut
a
check
when
a
school
is
in
need
of
new
scoreboards.
The
girl
scout
troop
needs
to
sell
the
last
hundred
boxes
of
cookies
or
when
frontline
healthcare
workers
are
in
need
of
hot
meals,
while
they
care
for
their
patients
from
coveted
pandemic
or
october.
One
massacre.
J
Allegedly.
This
is
a
quote
from
our
chapter
482,
it's
a
legislative
declaration.
J
It
says
the
legislature
finds
and
declares
that
the
distribution
and
sale
of
motor
vehicles
in
the
state
of
nevada
vitally
affects
the
general
economy
of
the
state
and
the
public
interest
and
the
public
welfare
and
in
the
exercise
of
its
police
powers,
it
is
necessary
to
regulate
into
licensed
motor
vehicle
manufacturers,
distributors,
new
and
used
vehicle
dealers,
brokers,
rebuilders
leasing,
companies
salespersons
and
their
representatives
doing
business
in
the
state
of
nevada
in
order
to
prevent
frauds
impositions
and
other
abuses
upon
its
citizens.
That
was
codified
in
1965
and
again
ratified
in
1971
and
1995..
J
It
was
it
was
passed
by
this
body
and
signed
into
law
by
a
person
who
was
pretty
big
building
named
in
his
honor
governor
grant
sawyer
it
was.
It
ensures
that
the
in
the
state
we
provide
for
fair,
open
competition
but,
more
importantly,
provide
for
extensive
consumer
protections.
Protections
which
include
transparent
pricing
and
guarantee
that
a
person
whose
vehicle
is
in
need
of
warranty
or
recall
repair
can
can
and
will
be
able
to
get
that
done
in
this
manner.
Ab-114
will
undermine
the
system
that
has
worked
well
for
decades
and
decades.
J
The
law
the
body
has
implemented
required
motor
vehicle
dealers
to
invest
in
brick
and
mortar
facilities
and
local
jobs
to
ensure
purchasers
are
cared
for
during
the
life
of
the
vehicle,
not
just
at
the
point
of
sale
when
you
buy
a
car
you're
generally
buying
the
second
most
expensive,
expensive
item
in
your
life
following
your
house,
when
you
have
a
problem
with
your
ipad,
for
instance,
it
only
affects
you.
However,
if
you
have
a
problem
with
your
car,
it
affects
the
entire
driving
public.
J
You
you've
heard
that
passengers
bill
will
help
bring
more
electric
vehicles
to
market
it
will
not.
However,
if
this
bill
passes,
there
will
undoubtedly
be
fewer
protections
for
consumers.
Ab-114
is
ostensibly
being
pushed
by
a
group
of
burgeoning
automakers
who
have
yet
to
bring
a
vehicle
to
market.
However,
the
existing
automakers,
our
manufacturing
partners,
are
already
manufacturing
electric
vehicles
and
we
are
selling
them.
J
A
Q
A
A
Comment
I,
but
there
may
be
someone
in
the
wing,
so
I
will
ask
our
staff:
are
there
any
people
in
queue
for
public
comment
and
in
public
comment,
not
speaking
on
any
of
the
specific
bills,
but
just
public
comment
in.
A
A
Let's
move
on
to
neutral,
and
I
will
ask
that
the
callers
that
are
in
the
queue
for
opposition
to
please
submit
your
opposition.
You
have
up
to
48
hours
to
submit
that
online
to
us
and
you
can
also
reach
out
to
the
sponsors
of
the
bill
to
have
a
direct
discussion
with
them
about
coming
to
a
neutral
understanding
on
the
bill.
I
M
Good
afternoon
chairwoman,
monroe
moreno
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
bobby
ernot,
that's
spelled
b-o-b-b-y
e-r-n-a-u-t,
I'm
here
today
representing
general
motors,
and
we
are
currently
opposed
to
assembly,
bill,
114
and,
of
course,.
I
M
Hello,
madam
chair,
my
name
is
kurt
augustine
that
is
c-u-r-t
a-u-g,
ust
ine
and
I'm
the
senior
director
for
the
alliance
for
automotive,
inter
information
automotion,
and
I
would
like
to
put
my
comments
on
the
record
first
off.
This
is
really
not
a
debate
about
zero
mission
vehicles.
The
trade
association
I
work
for
represents
every
auto
manufacturer,
except
one
who
currently
makes
and
sells
vehicles
in
the
united
states.
This
is
not
again
about
zev's,
but
it's
a
debate
about
an
uneven
playing
field.
M
If
you
have
heard
our
industry
is
completely
committed
to
making
electric
vehicles,
you've
heard
our
testimony
that
we've
committed
to
over
a
hundred
vehicles
by
2025
and
even
some
prior
testimony
in
support
of
this
bill,
mentioned
the
affordability
of
all
these
vehicles
and
every
vehicle
it
was
mentioned
all.
But
one
is,
I
am
representing
them
today
this.
There
is
nothing
in
today's
law
that
prevents
these
zero
mission
vehicle
only
makers
from
selling
and
delivering
vehicles
in
nevada.
M
They
specifically
choose
not
to
use
the
current
system.
Our
automakers
work
closely
with
our
franchise
dealers
to
operate
as
successfully
as
possible.
The
automaker
supporting
av-114
simply
do
not
want
to
play
by
the
same
rules.
However,
they
want
special
treatment
for
a
competitive
advantage
in
nevada,
automakers
and
dealers
operate
under
the
same
franchise
law
that
regulate
much
of
the
business
relationship.
M
There
is
discussion
about
testimony
about
small
companies.
There
are
all
sorts
of
companies
involved
in
this.
There
are
over
20
companies
who
are
currently
producing
vehicles
in
other
parts
of
the
world.
They
could
come
and
sell
directly
into
nevada.
If
this
bill
passed.
There
are
also
technology
companies
who
are
spending
tremendous
amounts
of
money.
Developing
vehicles,
as
we
speak
so
to
be
clear.
Automakers,
do
not
shrink
from
avid
competition.
M
For
these
reasons,
and
many
others,
we
oppose
the
bill.
I
would
also
like
there
was
a
question
post
to
my
representative,
mr
alonzo,
about
whether
the
dealers
excuse
me.
The
manufacturers
would
support
this
bill
if
there
were
carved
outs,
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear.
We
support
the
current
dealer
system
exclusively
and
again.
Another
reason
why
we
are
in
strong
opposition
to
this
bill
and
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
thank
you
for
the
indulgence.
A
A
C
I'm
going
to
keep
it
very
brief.
You
know
I
appreciate
the
testimony
of
the
supporters.
I
also
encouraged
many
of
the
supporters
to
submit
written
testimony,
so
I'm
sure
members
of
your
committee
will
be
able
to
review
all
of
that
extensive
support,
documentation
that
was
provided
and
will
be
probably
up
on
nellis
shortly.
Additionally,
I
will
continue
to
have
conversations
with
the
opposition
prior
to
the
bill
presentation
and
prior
to
me
even
submitting
this
bill.
C
I
did
reach
out
to
all
the
people
that
were
on
the
call
in
opposition,
and
I
will
continue
to
work
with
them
to
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
solutions
in
making
this
a
better
fair
bill
for
the
for
nevada.
So
with
that,
I
would
urge
your
support
again
of
assembly
bill
114.
A
So
again
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
this
bill
and
we
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
123,
and
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
agenda.
So
our
next
meeting
for
the
assembly
committee
on
growth
and
infrastructure
will
be
thursday
march
4th
at
1
30,
where
we
will
hear
four
bills,
and
hopefully
it
will
not
last
as
long
as
today.