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A
A
Here
please
mark
assemblywoman,
bilbray,
axelrod,
absent,
excuse
and
the
same
with
assemblyman
miller.
It's
that
time
of
session
where
members
are
presenting
in
other
committees.
So
if
and
when
they
arrive
for
this
morning's
meeting,
please
mark
them
present.
That
means
we
do
have
a
quorum
this
morning,
good
morning
to
committee
members
good
morning
to
those
joining
us
in
the
room
in
carson
city
to
those
on
zoom
and
to
those
who
may
be
watching
on
the
legislature's
youtube
channel
or
on
the
internet,
welcome
to
day
115
of
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature.
A
A
Just
a
couple
of
quick
housekeeping
matters,
if
you're
here
in
the
room,
if
you
could,
please
silence
your
devices
if
you're
on
zoom,
if
you
could
please
mute
yourself
unless
you're
speaking,
that
would
be
helpful
and
then,
if
you
could
remember
to
state
your
name
each
time
before
you
speak,
that'll
help
our
committee
secretaries
with
the
minutes.
We
do
expect
each
other
to
be
kind
to
one
another.
Even
if
we
don't
agree
on
policy.
A
I
don't
think
that'll
be
an
issue
here
this
morning
and
then
finally,
keep
in
mind
that
many
members
will
be
using
multiple
devices
to
access
this
morning's
meeting.
So
please
don't
see
it
as
a
sign
of
disrespect
or
inattention.
If
members
appear
to
be
looking
away
at
times
so
committee,
we
have
two
bills
on
the
agenda
today
and
we
are
going
to
take
them
in
order,
and
I
will
also
let
committee
members
know
I
think
at
some
point
I'll
be
called
over
to
ways
and
means
to
present
yet
another
bill
over
there.
A
A
C
Good
morning,
chair
yeager
distinguished
committee,
go
knights
for
the
record.
This
is
deputy
director,
harold
wickham,
with
the
nevada
department
of
corrections,
and
this
morning
I'm
going
to
give
you
kind
of
the
short
version.
I'm
sure
we've
all
heard
these
bills
ad
nauseum-
and
I
know
you
have
so
much
more
to
do
so.
C
A
Going
once
going
twice
and
I
will
say
committee
I
did
have
a
chance
to
to
look,
and
I
know
we
don't
always
have
the
time
to
do
this,
but
I
do
believe
the
senate
judiciary
committee
did
vet
this
bill
pretty
thoroughly
and
and
made
some
changes
to
the
bill
so
and
I
think
those
changes
really
related
to
the
the
percentage
deduction.
So
I
don't
know,
maybe
just
for
the
record
deputy
director
wickham.
A
C
Thank
you,
chair
yeager,
for
the
record,
harold
wickham
department
of
corrections.
Yes,
the
the
amendment
includes
a
total
cap
on
deductions,
and
this
is
for
all
offenders
which
can
be
applied
at
25
for
non-payroll
deposits
and
50
for
before
payroll
wages.
That's
basically
for
offenders
who
have
a
job
within
the
facilities.
A
Thank
you
director,
and
just
just
to
clarify
that
to
make
sure
we
have
a
clear
record
so
essentially,
if
an
offender
is
working
while
incarcerated,
that
deduction
can
be
up
to
50
percent
but
for
other
types
of
monies-
and
I
I
think
everyone
everyone
is
thinking
of-
is
traditional.
Somebody,
a
family
member,
puts
money
on
someone's
books
so
that
the
offender
has
that
money
at
their
discretion.
Then
the
cap
on
that
is
a
25
deduction
to
satisfy
the
restitution
and
other
things
that
the
offender
would
be
responsible
for.
C
Thank
you
chair
for
the
record
hillary
clinton
department
of
corrections
that
is
correct,
25
for
for
deposits
from
family
members
and
50
total
capital
wages.
A
D
Thank
you
more
of
a
comment
than
anything.
I
I'm
really
happy
to
see
this
bill
here
presented
here
today.
I
know
that
during
our
hearings
for
acha,
as
well
as
the
sentencing
commission
during
public
comment,
you
know
this
topic
came
up
over
and
over
and
over
again,
especially
hearing
stories
about
families,
putting
money
on
their
family's
accounts
for
them
to
buy
things
like
toilet
trees
and
feminine
hygiene
products,
and
realizing
that
after
some
of
these
restitution
amounts
were
taken
out,
it
would
be
the
equivalent
of
making.
D
You
know
soap
like
25
dollars
like
a
bar.
So
I'm
really
happy
that
this
bill
is
here
before
us
today
and
has
made
its
way
in
the
current
form,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
listened
to
the
people
that
called
in
to
tell
their
stories
about
this.
So
that's
more
of
a
comment
than
a
question.
A
All
right,
I
don't
see
additional
questions
to
our
representatives
from
ndoc.
Thank
you
for
being
here
this
morning.
We'll
ask
you
to
sit
tight
for
just
a
moment,
we'll
take
some
testimony
on
the
bill
and
then
we'll
come
back
for
any
concluding
remarks
that
you
might
want
to
make
and
before
we
get
to
testimony,
I
will
echo
the
sentiment
of
go
nights
go
important
game
tonight
and
hopefully
it
turns
out
the
right
way.
A
E
Hello
and
thank
you,
chair
and
committee
members,
it's
great
to
be
here
today.
My
name
is
nick
schipak.
I
am
the
policy
and
program
associate
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
This
has
been
something
we've
been
working
on
since
last
september,
families
started
contacting
us
finding
out
that
they
were
having
their
deposits
deducted
anywhere
from
80
to
90
plus
percent.
E
The
board
of
prison
commissioners
asked
the
department
of
corrections
to
work
with
the
secretary
of
state
to
come
back
with
something
more
reasonable.
What
we
ended
up
with
presented
at
the
last
board
of
prisoners
commissions
meeting,
was
an
83
percent
deduction
families.
This
is,
we
have
grandmothers
and
wives
and
children
calling
us
crying
essentially
because
they
are
unable
to
afford
to
put
any
money
on
their
books.
These.
What
people
are
buying
is
is
very
basic
stuff
on
their
books
and
so
they've
stopped
sending
in
money.
E
So
what
we've
come
up
with
here
is
a
solution
where
families
can
put
money
on
the
books
of
their
loved
ones
and
then
that
money
gets
spent
in
the
doc
store.
So
doc
will
recuperate
a
bunch
of
this
money
on
the
back
end
and
it
will
allow
families
to
support
their
loved
ones
through
the
pandemic,
with
no
visitation.
E
One
of
the
only
ways
a
family
was
able
to
show
support,
for
somebody
on
the
inside
was
to
put
money
on
their
books
to
ensure
that
they
could
have
some
of
these
basic
comforts,
and
it
has
been
months
of
devastating
testimony
from
lots
of
families
and
the
board
of
prison.
Commissioners
has
put
a
stop
to
this
discussion
until
this
legislation
is
either
passed
or
failed.
A
Thank
you,
mr
sheepak
and
mr
shibak
before
you
step
away.
I
just
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
you
for
all
your
advocacy
this
session,
and
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
think,
as
a
social
worker,
you
bring
a
perspective
that
is
greatly
valued
and
having
to
deal
with
these
sort
of
issues
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
So,
just
on
behalf
of
the
committee
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
work
and
for
always
being
here
at
these
hearings,
whether
they're
over
zoom
or
finally,
and
nicely
here
in
person.
So
thank
you.
G
A
Thank
you,
miss
saunders
and
I'll
take
a
moment
too,
to
say
that
I
really
appreciate
that
throughout
this
throughout
the
session,
you've
done
a
great
job
of
being
concise
and
brief.
In
your
comments,
especially
when
we
were
on
zoom,
I
could
always
count
on
you
to
make
sure
that
you
said
what
needed
to
be
said
and
nothing
more
so
as
chair.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
that
throughout
the
session.
A
Anyone
else
in
the
room
here
in
carson
city
who'd
like
to
testify
in
support
of
senate
bill
22..
Okay,
I
don't
see
anyone
here
in
the
room.
I
don't
think
we
have
anyone
else
on
the
zoom
with
us
bps.
Could
we
go
to
the
phone
lines
to
see
if
there's
anyone
there
who'd
like
to
testify
in
support?
Please.
H
H
H
I
I
I
H
J
Yes,
my
name
is
yvette
williams,
I'm
chair
of
the
clark
county,
black
caucus,
we're
calling
in
today
to
support
senate
bill
22
with
its
amendments,
we're
very
happy
that
there
was
some
compromises
made
and
our
members
and
those
that
are
very
passionate
and
have
folks
incarcerated
will
be,
will
be
very
happy
with
these
amendments
and
with
this
committee
in
passing
this
bill
forward
to
the
floor
forum
vote.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
today.
I'm
going
to
keep
it
very
brief.
I
know
you
all
have
a
lot
to
accomplish
today.
H
K
Hi,
my
name
is
amanda
candelaria
c-a-n-d-e-l-a-r-I-a
and
I'm
here
in
support
of
sp
22.
in
past
sessions.
I've
read
my
own
personal
statements
regarding
this
bill,
but
today
I'm
the
voice
of
my
fiance
who's,
currently
at
ncc
his
words
for
this
good
morning
to
everyone.
Listening
I've
been
incarcerated
for
16
years
within
ndoc,
and
I
am
currently
fighting
a
wrongful
conviction
due
to
budget
cuts.
The
quality
of
misplaced
quality
of
food
in
this
place
has
been
unhealthy
and,
at
times
unbearable,
to
say
the
least.
K
My
family
and
my
fiance
have
been
generous
enough
to
spend
money
when
they
can
so
I
can
get
hygiene
products
and
healthier
food
options
with
the
deductions
being
as
high
as
they
currently
are.
I've
asked
them
not
to
send
any
more
money,
which
leaves
me
without
basic
necessities,
so
my
restitution
is
not
my
family's
burden
to
carry
there's
no
way.
I
could
ask
them
to
send
me
100
of
their
hard-earned
money
when
I'm
only
going
to
receive
ten
dollars
of
that.
I'm
asking
you
to.
K
A
H
B
Valerie
o'neill
o-n-e-I-l-l
good
morning,
my
name
is
valerie
and
I'm
a
voter
in
senate
district
12..
My
son
is
incarcerated
in
nevada,
department
of
corrections
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
sb
22..
I
want
to
take
two
minutes
of
your
time
to
try
to
describe
the
devastation
that
this
bill
would
prove
protect
us
from
families
and
incarcerated
people.
We
are
desperately
seeking
caps
on
these
deductions
as
a
means
to
be
protected
from
the
state
we
understand
marty's
law
and
that
the
restitution
is
due
in
full
and
timely
manner.
B
We
also
understand
that
what
happened
on
september
1st
when
they
begin
the
80
deductions
and
gutted
the
accounts
of
people
who
are
incarcerated
and
took
money
that
the
families
sent
those
first
few
days
were
not
required
by
murphy's
law.
Then
we
fought
and
won
some
relief
and
they
turned
around
and
did
it
again
to
us
on
march
1st
right
now,
according
to
the
board
of
prisons,
commissioners,
the
exemptions
were
supposed
to
be
50,
but
ndoc
is
deducting
50
percent,
another
31
percent
in
types
of
other
recitations,
including
capital,
improvement,
court
fees
and
others.
B
Ultimately,
the
ejections
are
back
at
80
percent
plus
there
are
two
immediate
issues.
As
I
said,
we
need
protection
from
the
state.
Currently,
we
are
forced
to
rely
on
the
reasonableness
of
the
director
and
the
oversight
of
the
board
of
christian
commissioners.
Neither
of
them
has
fulfilled
their
rules
and
obligations
to
the
families
or
incarcerated
people.
Second,
the
current
plan
for
deductions
is
self-defeating,
because
the
vast
majority
of
families
and
people
are
just
not
going
to
send
money
because
we
can't
afford
to
do
it.
B
My
son
would
never
allow
me
to
send
him
a
100
for
him
to
get
13
when
I'm
already
raising
my
granddaughter
his
daughter.
So
we
are
no
longer
said
money
and
they
are
forced
to
find
a
means,
a
way
to
survive.
Doesn't
that
defeat
the
purpose,
because
now
the
victim
gets
no
restitution,
it
actually
just
makes
no
sense.
These
caps
are
the
only
hope
that
we
have
left.
Please
pass
sb
22,
thank
you
and
have
a
good
day.
H
K
These
deductions
without
caps
have
been
devastating
and
in
ways
that
are
much
deeper
than
just
a
dollar
amount.
I
frequently
say
that
two
things
can
be
true:
we
can
do
what
is
right
and
required
for
victims
and
be
fair
and
just
to
people
convicted
of
a
crime
we
don't
have
to
do
only
one
or
the
other.
This
bill
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
say
that
we
choose
both
accountability
and
grace.
K
I
want
to
share
a
personal
example
of
the
impact
of
these
deductions.
My
husband
has
a
history
of
seizures
and
in
the
beginning
of
march
he
had
a
seizure
when
he
was
climbing
on
the
top
bunk
and
he
fell
onto
a
hot
pot.
Hot
water
gave
him
third
degree
burns
we're
impacted
by
the
restitution
deductions
at
83
percent.
K
K
K
I
know
that
we
talk
about
necessities
and
deodorant
shampoo
and
things,
but
today
I
hope
that
at
the
end
of
this
testimony
we
remember
that
there
are
lives
and
families
and
futures
and
stories
behind
every
deduction.
This
still
protects
us
all
from
relying
on
ndoc
to
be
reasonable
or
from
pvoc
to
govern
mdoc
you're,
our
elected
officials,
and
I
hope
that
you
champion
this
cause
because
many
of
us
live
in
your
district
and
are
some
of
your
most
vulnerable
constituents
and
we
need
your
help.
We're
counting
on
you.
Please
pass
us
d22.
H
L
Yes,
hello,
oh
perfect,
I'm
sorry
it
didn't
work
last
time.
Good
morning
my
name
is
denise
bolano.
L
L
The
most
recent
example
I
gave
illustrated
how
a
mistake
on
my
part
on
a
shipping
of
a
package
went
to
the
prison
and
my
husband
needed
to
pay
15
for
the
return
shipping,
but
I
would
have
needed
to
deposit
six
dollars
to
clear
that
fifteen
dollars,
so
we
just
simply
let
it
go,
and
there
are
endless
dollar
amount
examples
from
both
from
people
outside
and
inside
prison.
That
give
you
just
a
glimpse
of
how
this
has
impacted
this
already
financially
and
emotionally
strained
community.
L
H
M
Hello:
okay,
hi,
my
name
is
ayanna
a
y,
a
n
n,
a
last
name:
oglesby,
o
g
l
e
s
d
y
good
morning.
Everyone,
I
have
loved
ones
incarcerated
with
nevada
department
of
corrections.
M
Today,
I'm
here
to
share
a
letter
from
an
incarcerated
member
of
return,
strong
who
wrote
to
us
regarding
their
personal
experiences
with
the
deductions
and
provides
a
very
concerning
example
of
why
we
need
these
caps
added
to
sb,
22
and
the
writer
says
I
am
writing
in
regards
to
50
deductions
being
taken
from
my
paycheck
working
in
prison
industries.
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that,
while
the
prison
board
of
commissioners
approved
a
50
deduction,
ndoc
is
taking
a
hundred
percent
from
what
I
mean
a
hundred
percent.
I
am
left
with
nothing,
absolutely
nothing.
M
I
depend
on
what
I
make
and
it
is
my
only
income.
I
do
not
have
support
from
outside
of
prison
and
I
have
a
very
long
sentence.
I
use
my
pay
to
survive
just
like
you
do
I
buy
toiletries
and
hygiene
like
tampons
soap,
toothpaste,
deodorant
the
prison,
doesn't
provide
those
things
in
september
2020
when
they
first
started.
Taking
80
from
my
paycheck,
they
left
me
with
two
dollars
per
paycheck
now
since
march,
when
they
began
deductions
again,
I
am
left
with
absolutely
nothing.
M
This
is
the
breakdown
of
a
80
85
paycheck
restitution,
45
court
ordered
fines,
2.55
united
states,
court
of
appeals,
9th
circuit
2.55
room
and
board
20.83
prison
improvement
fund
4.25
victim
crime,
fine
4.25
savings
8.50,
if
you
add
that
up
it
comes
to
exactly
85
before
prison
board
of
commissioners
intervened.
At
least
the
80
percent
went
to
restitution,
but
now
it
is
50
towards
restitution
and
then
all
these
fees.
Why
are
inmates
paying
for
capital
improvement
and
where
do
we
see
any
improvements?
M
For
god's
sake,
the
kitchen
at
southern
desert
has
had
hot
water
haven't
had
hot
water
in
over
five
years.
We
need
you
all
to
help
us
afterwards.
I
am
here
to
ask
you
again:
please
support
sb
22
and
again.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
We
are
nevada,
strong
and
battleborn,
and
with
that
I
close
thank
you.
H
N
Yes,
hi,
my
name
is
nicole
tate
and
I
c-o-l-e-t-a-t-e
a
registered
voter
of
assembly
district
2
and
I'm
calling
in
support
of
sb
22.,
previously
enacted.
Deductions
stated
to
be
due
to
marshes
law
hit
many
people
hard,
especially
due
to
the
pandemic.
Many
people
out
of
work
facing
evictions
and
other
monetary
issues
further
complicated
by
the
need
to
provide
money
for
things
like
food
and
hygiene
products
for
their
incarcerated
loved
ones.
N
But
while
stated
this
was
due
to
marshy's
law,
it
has
been
discussed
in
many
other
meetings
of
the
nevada
legislature
that
there
is
no
stated
amount
to
be
taken
in
marsy's
law
and
thus
the
reason
for
this
bill,
while
I'm
not
personally
affected
by
the
deductions
of
ar
258,
which
is
ndoc's
deduction
schedule.
I
have
been
through
deductions
similar
to
this
in
december
of
2018.
My
husband
broke
his
neck
and
fortunately
suffered
no
permanent
damages
that
we
know
of.
As
at
this
point,
however,
we
were
left
with
the
bill
of
at
least
five
thousand
dollars.
N
I
never
knew
the
full
amount
that
was
never
provided
to
us,
but
due
to
the
deductions
to
pay
for
this
bill.
In
addition
to
the
other
deductions
taken,
if
I
deposited
one
hundred
dollars,
he
would
get
a
little
more
than
twenty
that
twenty
dollars
left
him
to
buy
food
hygiene
products
and
other
necessities
which,
due
to
the
high
cost
of
these
items,
didn't
go
far
to
say.
I
was
relieved
when
this
bill
was
finally
paid
off
as
an
understatement,
but
for
those
affected
by
these
deductions,
this
bill
would
be
a
lifesaver.
N
Putting
a
cap
on
family
deposits
would
give
the
ability
for
those
who
help
out
their
incarcerated
loved
ones
to
once
do
so
again,
as
quite
frankly,
many
did
not
have
the
funds
to
be
able
to
provide
for
what
is
needed,
but
in
the
vast
majority
has
is
simply
stop
sending
it.
The
passage
of
this
bill
would
also
allow
families
they
provide
the
funds
to
assist
their
loved
ones
with
basic
human
needs
that
and
not
be
destitute
in
the
process.
N
H
O
Good
morning,
my
name
is
nicole
williams,
w-I-l-l-I-a-m-s
and
I
vote
for
an
assembly
district
39,
jim
wheeler.
You
are
my
assemblyman,
I'm
here
today
to
express
my
support
of
sb
22
and
the
caps
on
deductions.
I'd
like
to
share
a
letter
from
an
incarcerated
person
that
was
sent
to
return
strong,
hello,
I'm
incarcerated
at
lovelock
correctional
center,
and
I
work
in
the
sfi
garment
factory.
O
I
want
to
explain
first
how
this
impacts
me
now
I'll
start
with
the
breakdown
of
my
last
pay
statement,
which
I
was
charged
two
dollars
to
get
a
copy
of
in
order
to
send
it
to
you.
My
pay
was
172.68
minus
86.30
for
restitution,
863,
capital
improvement,
4231
room
and
board
1721
savings,
8.63
victims,
compensation,
5.18
cents,
court
fees
and
4.08
cents
for
child
support
at
the
end,
I'm
left
with
34
cents.
O
While
this
is
disturbing,
I
also
want
to
help
you
see
how
it's
impacting
my
ability
to
successfully
parole,
as
well
as
impacting
the
bonds
that
I'm
working
on
healing
with
my
children
and
family.
You
see,
I
am
paying
four
dollars
and
eight
cents
for
child
support.
Prior
to
these
deductions,
I
was
sending
another
chunk
of
money
to
my
kids.
Every
time
I
got
paid,
my
ex
now
has
applied
for
welfare
to
help
support
because
I'm
not
helping
her
anymore.
O
You
see,
like
others,
I
use
my
pay
for
sustaining
myself
inside
of
prison.
I've
also
been
working
to
aggressively
save
for
my
parole
when
ndoc
checked
the
deductions
in
september,
they
getted
my
savings
account.
I
recently
re-established
connection
connect
contact
with
my
children
after
14
years
and
have
been
building
relationships
with
them
through
consistent
phone
calls
that
I
pay
for.
In
order
to
show
the
changes
I've
made,
I'm
a
different
person.
O
I
want
them
to
learn
to
trust
me
and
show
them
that
I
love
them
and
that
they
can
count
on
me,
but
now
that
these
deductions
hit
I'm
left
with
pennies
and
our
phone
calls
have
ended.
My
crime
deeply
impacted
my
loved
ones,
and
I've
had
to
put
a
lot
of
time
into
working
on
making
amends
in
those
relationships.
O
O
I
want
you
to
understand
that,
while
there
is
an
impact
due
to
money,
there
is
also
a
deeper
impact
when
you
leave
people
destitute
all
of
the
bonds
and
pieces
of
humanity
that
keep
us
human
are
ripped
from
us
and
we
are
left
shells
of
who
we
should
be
and
focus
solely
on
survival
and
not
growth.
I
am
here
today
representing
my
family
and
our
support
of
sb22.
A
Thank
you
bps
before
we
go
to
opposition,
I'm
going
to
reopen
support
testimony
here
in
the
room,
as
we
had
a
couple
folks
arrive
after
we
took
testimony
in
the
room,
so
miss
burchie.
If
you
would
like
to
provide
testimony,
I'm
not
sure
if
mr
pirro's
going
up
as
well,
but
we
have
our
dynamic
duo
of
public
defender
representatives
together
at
the
table.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
been
together
at
the
table
yet
this
session
in
assembly,
judiciary.
A
P
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
yeah,
you're,
kendra
burchie
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
First,
thank
you
allowing
for
me
to
testify
today
in
support
of
this
very
important
bill.
You've
heard
from
all
of
the
individuals
who
called
in
regarding
the
significant
need,
so
we
urge
your
support.
Thank
you.
A
That
was
quick.
Thank
you.
Let
me
just
do
one
last
call
any
testimony
in
any
other
testimony
and
support
in
the
room.
I
don't
see
any
I'll
close
testimony
and
support.
I
will
now
open
it
up
for
testimony
in
opposition.
Is
there
anybody
here
in
the
room
in
opposition,
seeing
no
one
come
forward
and
also
seeing
no
one
else
on
the
zoom
bps?
Could
we
go
to
the
phone
lines
to
see
if
there's
anybody
there
in
opposition,
please.
H
Q
Begin
hello,
I'm
actually
in
support
of
this
bill,
I
was
just
caught
up
driving
trying
to
unmute
myself
and
press
starter
nine.
My
name
is
aurelie
rodriguez
and
I
live
in
bow
in
the
assembly
district
30.-
and
I
am
here
today
to
support
sb22
last
fall.
A
friend
of
our
family
was
released
from
prison.
Q
He
also
received
the
stimulus
check
and
that
money
was
supposedly
being
held
by
ndoc
and
would
be
given
to
him
when
he
was
released,
except
they
started
the
deductions
and
on
the
first
deduction
they
took
not
only
new
money
coming
in.
They
took
everything
in
his
accounts.
He
had
saved
about
1600
from
money
sent
to
him
during
his
income
incarceration
and
his
stimulus
check
that
left
him
with
200
or
300.
He
left
prison
and
ended
up,
ended
up
in
a
homeless,
shelter,
no
money,
no
home,
no
food,
no
way
out.
Q
He
had
really
focused
on
turning
his
life
around
when
he
got
out.
Instead,
he
is
now
dead.
He
killed
himself
because
at
the
end
he
had
no
hope
left.
He
told
his
friend
that
he
was
left
with
no
choice.
Please
pass
as
the
22
and
protect
families
and
incarcerated
people
and
leave
some
hope
that
we
can
survive
all
of
this
financially
and
financially
and
literally.
A
A
Thank
you,
bps
I'll,
close
opposition
testimony
and
now
open
it
for
neutral
testimony.
Anybody
in
the
room
with
us
who
would
like
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position.
I
don't
see
anybody
coming
forward
for
neutral
again.
We
don't
have
anyone
else
on
the
zoom
bps.
Could
we
check
the
phone
lines
to
see
if
there's
anyone
who'd
like
to
provide
neutral
testimony.
A
C
Thank
you,
chair
yeager,
for
the
record.
This
is
herald
wickham,
nevada,
department
of
corrections
in
the
interest
of
brevity.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
and
to
the
committee
for
all
your
hard
work
on
this
and
and
many
other
bills
that
you're
working
on.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
so
much
appreciate
you
all
being
here
this
morning
and
joining
us
in
assembly
judiciary
at
this
time,
I'll
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill,
22
and
committee,
given
that
we're
in
the
last
week
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
into
a
work
session
on
senate
bill
22.
At
this
time,
I'd
be
looking
for
a
motion
to
do
pass
senate
bill
22..
A
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay,
okay,
motion
carries
everyone
present
voted
in
favor
and
I'll,
give
the
floor
statement
to
assemblywoman
billbray
axelrod,
because
she
very
enthusiastically
made
the
motion
on
senate
bill
22.
So
the
floor
statement
is
either
your
reward
or
your
punishment,
I'm
not
sure
which
one
so
committee
will
move
right
along
to
the
next
bill
on
our
agenda
and
I'll
open.
A
The
hearing
now
on
senate
bill
219
in
its
first
reprint
that
bill
revises
provisions
relating
to
offenses.
We
have
our
senate
majority
leader
canazarro
here
with
us
this
morning.
Miss
mosley
with
us
as
well,
so
welcome
both
of
you
to
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
As
always,
we'll
give
you
a
chance
to
present
the
bill
and
then
because
we're
assembly,
judiciary,
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
have
some
questions
so
welcome
and
please
proceed.
F
With
your
permission,
mr
chair,
for
today,
for
today's
purposes,
I
want
to
talk
first
about
some
background
information
today
driver's
license
suspensions
are
a
frequently
used
tool
to
enforce
collection
of
criminal
justice
debt.
Criminal
justice
debt
refers
to
the
accumulation
of
fees
and
fines
that
a
defendant
acquires,
while
being
processed
through
the
justice
system.
These
fees
and
fines
can
be
imposed
for
anything
from
restitution
to
make
a
victim
whole
to
punitive
fines
designed
to
be
deterrence
from
any
future
wrongdoing.
F
Even
when
a
person
is
convicted
and
incarcerated.
These
fees
and
fines
do
not
simply
disappear
when
combined
with
other
costs
of
living,
rent
mortgage
payments,
credit
card
debt,
insurance
payments
and
child
support,
for
example,
the
additional
cost
of
criminal
justice
debt
can
be
difficult
or
impossible
to
pay.
One
estimate
by
the
united
states
census
bureau
in
2012
puts
fees
and
fines
collected
by
state
and
local
governments
at
more
than
15
billion
dollars
per
year.
This
is
when
collection
enforcement,
such
as
suspension
of
driver's
license,
is
introduced.
F
When
people
lose
their
driver's
licenses,
they
often
lose
their
job
or
have
trouble
finding
work
and
therefore
they're
unable
to
satisfy
that
debt,
because
people
need
to
drive
to
go
to
work
to
get
to
a
doctor's
appointment
or
provide
transportation
for
their
children.
They
often
drive
on
a
suspended
license
and
in
the
state
of
nevada.
F
F
If
they
are
stopped
by
law
enforcement,
then
again
they
are
charged
with
driving
on
a
suspended
license,
which
is
a
ticket
that
may
include,
of
course,
additional
fees
and
fines
associated
with
that,
and
so,
as
a
result
of
not
being
able
to
pay
fees
and
fines
are
essentially
accumulating
more
fees
and
fines.
The
resulting
cycle
of
debt
and
prolonged
criminal
justice
system
involvement,
disproportionately
burdens.
Of
course,
our
low-income
communities
senate
bill
219
is
an
effort
to
curb
the
cycle
of
debt
acquired
by
defendants,
reduce
the
burden
on
court
dockets
and
keep
our
roadways
safer.
F
This
bill
aims
to
stop
the
suspension
of
a
driver's
license
based
on
an
individual's
inability
to
pay
their
criminal
justice
debt
section.
One
of
this
bill
removes
the
authority
of
the
court
to
suspend
a
driver's
license
of
a
defendant
or
prevent
a
defendant
from
applying
for
a
driver's
license
when
senate
bill
219
goes
into
effect.
F
On
october,
1st
2021
section
4
requires
the
nevada
department
of
motor
vehicles
to
immediately
reinstate
a
driver's
license
or
the
ability
to
apply
for
a
driver's
license
for
individuals
subject
to
suspension
of
their
driver's
license
because
of
delinquent
fines
and
fees.
What
I
would
note
here
is
that
this
is
specific
to
an
inability
or
where
someone
is
not
paying
those
fines
and
fees.
F
This
does
not
wholesale
remove
the
ability
to
suspend
driver's
licenses
in
cases
like
a
dui
where
that's
prescribed
statutorily
or
where
potentially
somebody
may
have
so
many
points
on
their
license
that
they
fall
within
the
parameters
of
the
dmv's
ability
to
suspend
driver's
licenses
anyway,
section
4,
also
states.
The
dmv
cannot
charge
fees
for
reinstatement
of
a
driver's
license
or
require
a
defendant
to
undergo
any
physical
or
mental
assessment
for
eligibility
purposes.
F
One
of
the
other
things
that
I
think
is
notable
about
this
is
when
you
do
have
to
go
and
reinstate
your
driver's
license,
because
you
cannot
pay
fees,
it
is
not
simply
enough
to
just
have
paid
off
court
fees.
You
must
also,
then
pay
an
additional
fee
in
order
to
reinstate
your
license.
R
Good
morning,
mr
chair
and
committee,
it's
good
to
see
you
all
again
as
well
and
to
be
before
you
presenting
this
bill,
and
I
want
to
say
there.
Probably
I
don't.
I
won't
go
into
too
much
detail.
I
don't
think
I
need
to
you
all
have
heard
this
before
we
presented
with
assemblywoman
gonzalez
on
her
version
of
this
bill.
Ab151
there
isn't
much.
That
is
different,
so
I
will
just
avail
myself
to
any
questions.
Should
you
all
have
any
for
me.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
appreciate
the
brevity,
especially
with
a
few
days
left
to
go
before
I
open
up
for
other
questions.
I
had
a
question
and
it's
I
know
we're
a
policy
committee,
but
it
is
on
one
of
the
fiscal
aspects.
I
noticed
that
the
bill
went
through
senate
finance
and
so
majority
leader.
I
thought
I'd
ask
you,
because
I
think
you
sit
on
that
committee
and
I
assume
you
presented
the
bill
over
there.
So
I
noticed
in
section
3.5
of
the
bill
there's
an
appropriation
made
to.
A
I
guess
the
highway
fund,
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
for
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars-
and
I
assume
that
is
the
cost
that
they
said
it
was
going
to
take
for
them
to
notify
people
that
they're
eligible
to
have
their
driver's
license
reinstated.
But
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
on
the
record.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
nicole
canozzaro
senate
district,
six
that
is
correct,
and
so
just
for
the
I
guess
for
the
committee's
edification.
This
per
so
the
fees
and
fines
that
are
paid
through
the
reinstatement
for
the
driver's
licenses
go
to
the
highway
fund.
So
this
is
an
impact
to
the
highway
fund,
with
respect
to
the
75
dollars
being
waived
and
then
not
and
then
not
being
collected
well,
mostly
being
waived,
the
not
collecting
part.
F
Who
we
know
is
is
an
agency
that
works
very
hard
to
kind
of
comply
with
all
the
things
that
they
have
to
do
and
have
had,
I
think,
an
extraordinarily
tough
year
as
as
so
many
have,
but
because
we
would
say
that
they
would
no
longer
be
in
the
in
the
business
of
having
to
suspend
driver's
licenses
and
reinstate
them
that
service
that
they're
providing
no
longer
be
needed,
and
so
thus
the
fines
going
forward
would
no
longer
be
needed
to
support
that
as
a
action
that
they
would
be.
Taking.
F
The
money
that
you
see,
appropriated
in
section
3.5
is
from
the
highway
fund
to
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
in
order
to
pay
for
just
what
you
indicated
share,
which
is
the
notifications
to
go
out
to
anyone
who
does
have
the
driver's
license
suspended
and
if
they
were,
if
it
was
suspended.
You
know
under
the
provisions
of
what
currently
exists
in
nrs
that
were
seeking
to
change
in
senate
bill
219,
then
they
would
simply
need
to
come
in.
They
would
get
processed
for
a
new
license
and
we
would
be
able
to
have
that
license.
F
Obviously,
the
court
fines
and
fees
would
still
be
due
and
owing,
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
on
this
particular
piece
of
legislation
is
how
do
we
deal
with
the
enforcement
mechanism
and
again
that's
something
that
the
court,
I
think,
has
plenty
of
ways
to
enforce.
Aside
from
suspension
of
a
driver's
license.
A
Great
thank
you
senate
majority
leader,
we're
going
to
go
next
to
a
question
from
assemblywoman,
hanson
and
I'll.
Just
let
members
know
I'm
going
to
pop
over
very
quickly
to
go
present
to
bill
and
I'll
be
back.
So
my
vice
chair
is
going
to
take
over
for
a
moment.
Assemblywoman
hanson!
Please
go
ahead.
G
Thank
you
chair,
and
I
feel
like
I'm
having
deja
vu,
that
two
bills
in
four
days
that
we
already
heard
in
the
assembly,
so
the
changes
other
than
this
appropriation,
ms
mosley
or
majority
leader.
If
you
could
just
the
cliff
notes,
what
what's
different,
really
anything
than
what
we
heard
before
on
ab151.
F
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblywoman
nicole
cannizzaro,
senate
district
six,
so
219
is
structured
differently.
I
think
we're
trying
to
accomplish
the
same
goal,
but
it's
structured
differently
wholesale.
There
is
a
deletion
of
nrs
that
provides
for
the
court's
authority
to
suspend
driver's
licenses,
so
we're
not
delving
into
different
how
different
cases
might
be
treated
or
different
court.
Fines
and
fees
may
be
treated.
F
This
is
just
saying
that
the
court
and
again
aside
from
things
like
a
dui
or
where
somebody
may
have
other
traffic
violations
that
lead
them
to
suspension
of
the
driver's
license
for
the
non-payment
of
fines
and
fees.
This
is
not
a
mechanism
that
can
be
utilized,
so
it's
a,
I
think,
that's
the
simplest
way
of
putting
it
and
I
don't
know
if
miss
mosley
wanted
to
add
anything
to
that.
R
D
I
think
next
we'll
go
to
sorry,
I'm
the
new
steve
today.
If
we
can
go
next
to
assemblywoman
kasama.
S
S
But
I
I
do
question
why,
on
section,
let's
see
that
would
be
section
one
three
b:
you're
deleting
the
whole
thing,
but
it
says
here
if
the
court
determines
the
defendant,
has
the
ability
to
pay
the
amount
due
and
is
willfully
avoiding
payment
and
you're
striking
that
I
don't
understand
that
if
a
person
has
the
ability
to
pay
and
they're
choosing
not
to
it
seems
to
me
that
should
remain
in
the
statute
and
the
section
for
community
service,
I
believe,
should
remain
with
flexibility,
because
if
people
have
work-
and
you
know
so,
it
seems
to
me
that
those
areas
should
remain
in
there
and
then
tolerance.
F
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblywoman
nicole
cannizzaro
senate
district
six.
So
I
think
that
that's
a
very
common
thing
when
we
see
the
language
in
this
bill
to
note-
and
I
think
most
people
probably
share
that
concern.
If
somebody
is
willfully
avoiding
to
pay
court,
fines
and
fees,
why
can't
we
suspend
their
license?
I
think
the
the
answer
to
that
is
sort
of
twofold.
F
So,
first,
in
my
conversations
with
a
lot
of
the
judges
on
how
this
works
is
that
it,
although
it
requires
a
court
to
make
a
determination
about
someone
who
is
willfully,
avoiding
paying
fines
and
fees,
how
it
operates
is
that
it
is
an
automatic
suspension,
so
they're
not
making
those
types
of
determinations.
So
I
think
that's
important
to
note
that
when
people's
driver's
license
are
suspended
for
non-payment
of
fines
and
fees,
it's
happening
in
our
courts
automatically.
F
It's
not
happening
because
there's
been
some
sort
of
evidentiary
hearing
where
evidence
has
been
presented,
that
someone
has
x
amount
of
dollars
and
just
isn't
paying.
So
I
think
that's
sort
of
the
first
piece
is
that
this
is
not
operating
the
way
in
which
I
think
we,
when
we
read
the
statutory
language
believe
that
it
is
working.
It
is
an
automatic
thing
that
happens
without
courts
discretion.
F
F
There
are
ways
to
get
judgments
of
conviction
so
that
those
can
be
collectible,
but
I
think
that
there
are
other
things
that
the
court
has
at
its
discretion,
including
the
the
broad
authority
with
respect
to
contempt
of
court,
because
if
you're
willfully
not
doing
what
the
court
has
asked
you
and
ordered
you
to
do,
that
is
wholly
within
the
court's
discretion.
To
be
able
to
do
so,
and
because
this
does
not
operate
the
way
in
which
we
would
believe
that
it
is
operating.
F
L
F
That
and
be
done
with
it
and
have
the
court
case
close
people
who
are
not
paying
their
fines
and
fees.
Generally
speaking-
and
I
will
say-
anecdotally-
are
it's
because
they
can't
pay
because
they
don't
have
the
money
to,
and
so
that's
what
we're
trying
to
solve.
And
I
don't
think
that
by
saying
we
have
this.
One
less
thing
that
we
can
do
in
terms
of
suspending
a
driver's
license
is
the
way
that
we're
going
to
get
people
to
come
in
and
pay
those
fines
and
fees.
F
When
there
are
other
enforcement
mechanisms
with
respect
to
community
service,
people
can
still
be
given.
The
court
still
has
the
broad
discretion
to
order
community
service,
where
someone
is
ordered
to
pay
fines
and
fees
that
happens
quite
frequently
for
misdemeanors
for
traffic
tickets,
if
they
can't
pay
fines
and
fees
to
to
do
community
service.
That
can
always
be
something
that
the
court
imposes.
F
This
wouldn't
restrict
that
authority
of
the
court
to
still
impose
community
service
and
again
if
they
were
to
impose
community
service
as
a
condition
and
that
individual
were
not
to
complete
that
community
service.
There
are
other
mechanisms
that
the
court
can
use
for
enforcement
tools
specifically
because
they
have
the
broad
discretion
for
holding
people
in
contempt
and
imposing
requirements
if
they
needed
to.
S
So
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
But
what
you're
saying
is
the
court
isn't
handling
their
job
correctly
based
on
the
statute
here?
So
because,
if
it
says
it's
due
to
their
inability
to
pay
and
they're
not
looking
at
that,
then
I
still
feel
uncomfortable
removing
that
from
statute
and
either
we
add
language
that
that
forces
the
court
to
properly
observe
this
or
whatever
the
case
might
be.
But
I
feel
uncomfortable
with
removing
that
section
from
the
statute
and
we
have
to
figure
out
how
the
courts
would
better
handle
that.
R
Lisa
mosley
assemblywoman
in
the
2019
legislative
session
assembly
bill
434
was
passed.
I
did
a
few
things
among
them
was
mandated
that
courts
use
an
ability
to
pay
assessment
before
adjudicating
any
traffic
cases
with
that.
What
we
should
see
is
this
should
have
seen
in
that
between
that
time
and
now
is
driver's
license
suspensions
going
down
in
some
cases
in
some
courts
we
did
see
that,
but
in
some
we
did
not,
and
so
I
this
that
statute
will
still
be
in
place.
R
S
What
what
statute
section.
D
G
Yeah,
it's
not
really
a
question,
it's
a
comment:
majority
leader,
cananzaro
and
lisa.
Thank
you
guys
so
much
for
the
work
that
you've
done
on
this
bill.
I
think
the
fact
that
we
both
had
these
similar
bills,
speaks
to
how
prevalent
this
issue
is
in
our
community,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
work
that's
been
done.
R
Just
speaks
to
the
fact
that
when
you
have
women
in
power
and
legislators
that
things
get
done,
and
so
I
am
happy
to
have
worked
and
presented
with
both
of
you
on
this
bill,
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
this
done
the
session
and
bringing
some
relief
to
nevada's
and
helping
them
get
their
licenses
back
and
get
back
to
being
able
to
take
care
of
their
families
and
get
to
work
and
get
their
children
to
school.
So
thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
miss
mosley.
I
think
it
is
a
testament
that
we
have
heard
this
twice
now
and
it's
it's
great
to
see
it
here,
and
I
think
mr
wilkinson
actually
has
an
answer
to
assemblywoman
kasama's
concerns
about
what
section
of
the
statute,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
him.
G
Thank
you.
I
believe
the
statute
you
were
referring
to
was
nrs
176.0643,
which
was
enacted
last
session,
and
that
provides
that,
for
the
purposes
of
chapter
176,
a
person
who
commits
a
minor
traffic
offense
is
presumed
to
be
indigent
and
not
to
have
the
ability
to
pay
a
fine
administrative
assessment
or
fee.
If
the
person
receives
public
assistance
resides
in
public
housing
or
has
a
household
income
there's
less
than
200
percent
of
the
federally
designated
level
signifying
poverty,
so
that
that
was
the
statute.
I
think
you
were
referring
to
that.
The
court
would
use
176.0643.
D
D
E
Hello
again,
thank
you
vice
chair
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
nick
shibak
policy
and
program
associate
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
I
will
keep
this
brief,
as
I
believe
this
committee
did
a
good
job
of
vetting
this
legislation
with
151
when
we
heard
it
the
first
time
we,
you
all
made
the
good
decision
to
pass
that
bill
out,
and
I
trust
that
you
will
pass
this
one
out.
E
Maintaining
a
driver's
license
is
necessary
for
nevadans
to
maintain
work
and
to
pay
their
fines
and
fees
and
by
eliminating
the
removal
of
driver's
license
for
minor
traffic
violations,
the
inability
to
pay
those
tickets.
We
will
benefit
many
nevadans
and
we
believe
we
will
increase
the
amount
of
money
recuperated,
as
people
will
be
able
to
get
to
work.
Thank
you.
G
You
may
remember
all
the
way
back
in
february,
two
of
our
mass
liberation
leaders,
yesenia
moya
and
leslie
turner,
helped
present
a
very
similar
bill,
but
they
were
unable
to
make
it
today.
We
want
to
say
that
this
is
an
important
policy
to
stop
criminalizing
poverty,
and
we
urge
your
support.
Thank
you.
G
I
will
say
that
our
neighbor
state
arizona
just
recently
passed
this
legislation
unanimously
through
their
house
and
the
governor
signed
it
into
law,
because
in
arizona
they
recognize
that
what
happens
is
when
you
get
a
ticket
and
you
get
your
license
suspended.
You
start
cycling
into
poverty,
you're
going
to
get
another
ticket.
If
your
child
has
to
go
to
the
doctor,
as
most
of
you
know,
from
down
south,
you
cannot
walk
anywhere.
G
There
and
the
bus
takes
hours
to
get
anywhere
so
you're
going
to
drive
and
if
you
have
to
go
to
work-
and
you
don't
want
to
lose
your
job
you're
going
to
drive
even
if
your
license
is
suspended,
so
this
keeps
people
at
work.
It
keeps
people
taking
their
kids
to
school
and
the
doctor
and
we'll
let
them
get
back
on
their
feet
and
eventually
pay
that
without
suffering
the
license
suspension
that
could
result.
So
we
strongly
urge
the
passage
of
this
bill.
P
Good
morning,
kendra
burchie
with
the
washington
county
public
defender's
office.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
majority
linger
leader
for
bringing
this
important
bill
forward.
We
do
recognize
that
this
is
an
extremely
important
step
in
ending
the
criminalization
of
poverty.
As
you
heard
us
testify
previously,
a
driver's
license
suspension
for
the
failure
to
pay
a
fine
or
fee
creates
a
vicious
cycle
of
crushing
debt
and
prolonged
involvement
with
the
legal
system.
I'll
just
add,
with
what
we've
heard
with.
P
Not
only
is
this
good
fiscal
policy,
we
believe
that
this
will
enhance
public
safety
and
really
ensure
that
people
aren't
having
enforced
to
make
the
decision
with
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
go
to
work,
whether
or
not
they
can
drive
to
work.
This
allows
for
more
people
to
be
employed
to
take
care
of
their
families
and
to
not
have
to
make
that
decision
of
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
be
able
to
pay
for
their
rent
versus
pay
for
those
court,
fines
and
fees.
P
So
we
do
believe
that
this
is
extremely
important,
and
I
would
just
also
add
that
what
we're
forgetting
about
is
the
tow
truck
fees
and
all
the
additional
fees
where,
if
somebody
is
arrested,
then
on
for
driving
and
having
to
have
made
that
decision
and
driving
while
on
a
suspended
license,
they
then
really
enter
into
that
criminal
justice
system
and
those
crushing
debt
for
having
to
pay
for
the
tow
truck
then
having
to
potentially
pay
to
be
reimbursed
for
at
the
jail
and
all
that
it
just
keeps
continuing
continuing.
So
we
urge
your
support.
G
D
H
H
J
Yvette
williams,
y-v-e-t-t-e
w-I-l-l-I-a-m-s,
chair
of
the
clark
county
black
caucus.
I
am
very
excited
to
speak
and
support
the
senate
bill
219..
J
J
Just
in
this
session
alone
and
well,
the
black
caucus
has
been
working
on
this
for
well
over
a
decade,
educating
the
community
around
the
issue
of
driver's
license
suspensions
and
how
it
impacts,
families
and
disrupts
lives
and
criminalizes
individuals
just
simply
behind
fines
and
fees
and
the
inability
to
pay
those,
and
so
we
are
we're
very
excited
to
work
with
the
fine
fees
justice
center.
This
this
particular
session
on
on
on
on
both
these
bills.
J
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
senate
finance
committee,
who
did
unanimous
unanimously
passed
this
bill
senate
bill
219
out
of
committee
with
100
bipartisan
support.
I
hope
that
this
committee
will
do
the
same.
It
was
very
disappointing.
J
I
know
you've
heard
a
lot
of
testimony
around
how
this
impacts
people,
but
I
I
do
want
to
make
mention.
That
was
what
was
very
disturbing
for
me
as
a
as
a
as
a
nevadan
and
an
advocate
in
the
community
to
see
how
some
of
these
fiscal
notes
derail
good
public
policy.
I
was
very
disappointed
that
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
provided
a
fiscal
note.
That
was
contested
on
many
occasions
of
a
note
up
to
seven
million
dollars.
J
And
then,
during
the
senate
committee
meeting,
we
find
that
it's
really
only
going
to
cost
fifteen
000
and
these
issues
were
raised,
but
somewhere
along
the
line.
We
need
to
think
about
in
terms
of
how
we're
going
to
hold
our
public
agencies
also
accountable
to
these
fiscal
notes,
to
make
sure
that
those
are
accurate,
because
it
did
derail
our
progress
with
assembly
bill
151.
J
And
so
I
just
want
to
make
mention
to
that
in
in
this
testimony
today
and
put
that
on
the
record
that
our
public
agencies
should
be
in
the
business
of
serving
the
public
and
not
not
for
pro
profit,
not
as
a
pro
for-profit
corporation,
and
with
that.
I
hope
that
this
committee
will
enthusiastically
and
100
percent
support
senate
bill
219
so
that
we
can
keep
it
on
on
the
floor
and
get
it
passed
as
quickly
as
possible.
J
Nevadans
are
waiting
for
this.
Hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
are
being
impacted
by
this
and
we
really
need
relief.
So
please,
if
you
could
pass
this
today
and
work,
it
would
be
great
that
we
could
get
it
on
the
floor
and
be
for
the
governor.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
your
work.
I
don't
know
how
you
all
do
it.
I
was
exhausted
last
week,
while
I
was
there,
so
god
bless
each
of
you
for
your
work
and
your
service
to
nevada.
H
I
I
D
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D
H
D
F
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
nicole
cannizzaro
senate
district
six.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
committee
for
taking
the
time
this
morning
to
hear
this
bill,
and
I
would
be
remiss
as
I
think
we
we
all
would
if
we
didn't
acknowledge
that
the
I
think
one
of
the
truly
powerful
voices
in
in
all
of
this
and
advocates
that
this
kind
of
work
doesn't
happen
without
would
be
miss
mosley.
F
And
so
I'm
very
honored
to
have
her
have
be
up
here
with
me
and
to
have
worked
on
this
issue
and
she
does
a
tremendous
job
and
I
know,
has
done
all
the
research
and
knows
all
the
answers
and
all
the
things
so
I'm
lucky
to
have
her
here
to
help
back
up
all
those
things
that
I
I
can't
quite
answer.
So
I
would
be
remiss
if
we
didn't
also
thank
her
for
her
really
truly
important
work
that
she
is
doing,
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
committee
as
well.
R
Lisa
mosley-
that
was
a
pleasant
surprise.
It
is
my
honor
to
have
worked
on
this
issue
with
so
many
advocates
in
our
community,
including
ms
yvette
williams
of
the
clark
county,
black
caucus,
leslie
turner,
mass
liberation,
folks
from
the
aclu
and,
of
course
assemblywoman
gonzalez
and
others.
This
has
been
a
long
road
and
I
do
think
it
is
absolutely
time
that
nevada
joined
other
states
that
have
enacted
such
legislation
and
brought
some
relief
to
their
state,
and
this
this
there
is
a
benefit
to
our
state.
With
this.
So
again,
thank
you
majority
leader.
R
D
Thank
you
and
with
that
we
will
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
219.,
since
we
are
missing
our
chair
as
well
as
one
of
our
other
members,
I'm
going
to
begin
a
public
comment
next
and
possibly
take
a
short
recess
before
we
potentially
work
session
on
this
last
bill,
so
broadcast
service,
oh
actually
I'll,
go
to
the
room.
First.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
room
to
testify
in
public
comment,
seeing
none
broadcast
services?
H
H
F
T
T
T
H
D
Thank
you,
and
with
that
I
will
close
public
comment,
and
at
this
time
I
will
just
we'll
be
taking
a
short,
hopefully
short,
short
short
recess.
I
know
chair
yeager
is
just
in
the
room
right
next
door,
and
so,
if
you
can
just
kind
of
hang
close
here
but
we'll
stand
at
recess
for.
D
D
D
A
Okay,
I
will
call
the
assembly
committee
on
judiciary
back
to
order.
Thank
you
vice
chair
for
running
that
hearing.
While
I
had
fun
over
in
the
assembly
ways
and
means
committee,
which
I
know
some
of
you
have
experienced
in
the
last
couple
of
days
or
last
couple
of
weeks,
so
one
order
of
business
that
we
still
have
on
the
agenda
this
morning
and
that
would
be
a
work
session
on
senate
bill
219.
A
A
S
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
note
and
put
on
the
record
that
I
will
be
voting
yes
to
get
it
out
of
the
committee.
I'd
like
an
opportunity
to
look
at
this
other
statute
and
I'm
just
concerned
and
and
would
encourage
that
we
still
can
put
into
it
regarding
community
service
and
suspension
of
a
license
if
the
person
willfully
doesn't
pay.
So
some
of
the
provisions
that
were
in
there
before
would
be
great
to
see
put
back
in,
but
I
will
be
voting
yes
out
of
committee.
A
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
kasama
and,
of
course,
we'll
have
to
wait
to
receive
the
amendment,
so
I
don't
think
that'll
happen
today,
I'm
not
sure,
but
so
you
have
a
little
bit
of
time
to
do
that
and
if
you
could
just
let
me
know,
if,
ultimately,
you
decide
to
change
to
a
no
on
the
floor.
I
would
always
appreciate
that
any
other
discussion
from
committee
members,
assemblyman
wheeler.
G
G
I
I
A
Thank
you,
assemblyman
o'neill,
further
discussion
on
the
motion.
Okay,
I
don't
see
further
discussion
again.
The
motion
is
to
amend
and
do
pass
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay,
okay
motion
carries
everyone
present
voted
in
favor
and
I'm
going
to
assign
the
floor
statement
to
assemblywoman
gonzalez
so
committee.
I
think
that
takes
us
through
everything
on
the
agenda
before
we
talk
about
what
comes
next
just
wanted
to
see.
If
there
is
any
discussion
from
anyone
else
on
the
committee
this
morning.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
so
in
terms
of
where
we
go
from
here.
We
do
have
an
agenda
for
tomorrow,
we'll
be
starting
at
nine
o'clock
and
like
today
we
have
two
bills
on
that
agenda.
As
far
as
I
know,
we
don't
have
any
other
bills
in
the
committee
other
than
those
two
there's
always
a
possibility.
We
could
get
more
bills
on
the
floor,
so
I
would
say
just
make
sure
to
be
paying
attention
to
your
emails.
A
Be
keep
be
connecting
with
your
attaches
because,
as
we
go
through
the
next
four
or
five
days,
if
we
do
have
to
have
a
committee
meeting,
it
may
not
be
at
our
regular
time.
It
may
be
this
weekend,
so
just
please
be
flexible
as
we
try
to
get
through
the
last
four
or
five
days
of
the
session,
so
with
that
committee.
Thank
you
again
for
your
attention.
This
morning,
we
will
see
you
back
here
in
this
committee
room
at
9am
tomorrow.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.