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A
One
moment
the
gremlins
are
out
friday
already
so
again
good
morning
to
committee
members
good
morning
to
those
joining
us
in
the
room.
We
seem
to
have
a
full
room
this
morning,
which
is
very
exciting
for
a
friday
morning
and
good
morning
to
those
on
the
zoom
and
those
who
may
be
watching
on
the
internet
or
the
legislature's
youtube
channel.
We
have
arrived
at
day
82
of
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature
before
we
get
started
this
morning.
Just
a
few
housekeeping
matters
for
those
of
you
in
the
room
with
us.
A
Could
you
please
silence
your
electronic
devices?
If
you
intend
to
testify
at
this
morning's
hearing
and
you're
here
in
carson
city,
when
you
come
to
the
table
to
testify,
could
you
please
remember
to
turn
the
microphone
on
to
state
your
name
before
you
speak
and
then
to
turn
the
microphone
off
when
you're
done
speaking,
if
you're
on
the
zoom
with
us
today,
please
mute
yourself
until
you
are
ready
to
speak
and
for
everybody
who's,
presenting
or
testifying
today,
please
state
your
name
before
you
speak,
particularly
when
you
answer
questions
that
will
help
our
committee.
A
Secretaries,
prepare
accurate
minutes
and
it'll
make
my
job
a
little
bit
easier
in
reviewing
those
minutes.
We
do
expect
courtesy
and
respect
and
interactions
with
one
another.
We
don't
always
agree
on
policy.
That's
perfectly
okay.
We
just
need
to
make
sure
we're
being
respectful
of
one
another
of
the
legislative
process
and,
most
importantly,
our
very
hard
working
staff
and
then
finally,
many
members
up
here
on
the
dyas
are
using
multiple
devices
to
access
this
morning's
meeting.
So
please
don't
see
it
as
a
sign
of
disrespect
or
inattention.
A
If
members
appear
to
be
looking
away
at
times
during
the
meeting,
all
right
with
that
behind
us
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
agenda,
I
do
intend
to
take
the
bills
in
the
order,
as
listed
on
the
agenda.
That
might
be
a
first
this
session,
but
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
So
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
108
in
its
first
reprint
that
bill
establishes
provisions
relating
to
juvenile
justice.
A
We
have
chair
shibal
with
us,
chair,
senator
schreibel
with
us
from
the
senate
judiciary
committee,
and
we
also
have
former
senator
weiner
with
us
on
the
zoom
and
two
of
our
youth
legislators
who
are
going
to
all
help
present
this
bill.
So
I
want
to
wish
you
all
a
very
happy
friday
morning,
welcome
to
assembly
judiciary,
we'll
give
you
a
chance
to
make
the
presentation.
Then
I'm
sure
we'll
have
some
questions.
So
please
go
ahead.
G
Thank
you
so
much
sherry
yeager
and
thank
you,
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
My
name
is
melanie
schaible.
I
am
the
state
senator
for
district
nine,
and
it
is
my
absolute
pleasure
to
be
here
with
the
members
of
the
nevada
youth
legislature
to
present
sb108,
I
hope,
you're
all
familiar
with
the
youth
legislature.
G
I
am
proud,
as
the
chair
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee,
to
have
shepherded
the
bill
through
our
committee.
It
is
technically
a
committee
bill
for
the
senate
judiciary
committee.
That's
why
it
has
the
sb
in
front
of
it,
but
it
is
the
work
of
these
two
young
women
who
have
really
put
their
heart
and
soul
into
crafting
some
good
policy
that
addresses
issues
of
cultural
competence
for
people
who
work
with
peop
with
young
people
in
the
juvenile
justice
system,
and
I'm
going
to
let
them
explain
the
bill
and
walk
you
through
it.
G
I
do
want
to
note
that
it
has
been
amended
so
if
I
hope
that
you're
all
looking
at
the
first
reprint,
the
original
version
of
the
bill
addressed
more
than
just
the
people
involved
in
the
juvenile
justice
system,
but
the
reprint
narrows
the
focus
to
people
within
the
juvenile
justice
system
and
with
that
and
with
your
permission
chair,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
our
youth
legislators.
I'm
not
sure
who's
going
first,
but
I'm
sure
they
will
tell
you.
H
A
H
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
chair
senator
scheibel
good
morning,
members
of
the
assembly
committee
on
judiciary
for
the
record,
I'm
malik
taygela
misko,
representing
senate
district
9..
I
currently
serve
as
chair
of
the
nevada
youth
legislature
with
me.
Today
is
youth
legislator,
juliana
melendez,
representing
senate
district
10..
She
first
proposed
the
juvenile
justice
measure,
which
was
which,
which
we
selected
as
our
bill
to
be
introduced
during
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature.
H
I
am
appearing
before
you
today,
primarily
to
share
some
background
information
about
how
the
nyl
selected
this
measure
as
its
one
statutorily
provided
bill.
Youth
legislator
melendez
will
walk
you
through
the
details
of
the
bill.
Before
I
explain
the
history
of
the
nyo
bdr,
I
would
like
to
share
my
own
personal
history
with
discrimination
and
the
fear
that
it
has
created
in
my
life.
H
Unfortunately,
they
were
unaware
that
the
dream
of
a
better
life
america
sold
came
with
the
package
deal
of
systemic
oppression.
The
first
memory
I
have
of
being
exposed
to
to
society's
true
colors
was,
after
the
death
of
trayvon
martin.
It
was
just
two
days
after
my
ninth
birthday,
when
I
noticed
my
mom's
eyes
were
bloodshot
red
and
niagara
falls
swirling
down
her
cheeks.
H
She
pointed
at
our
television
and
explained
to
me
that
an
innocent
17
year
old
african-american
was
murdered.
From
that
day
on,
I
began
to
see
the
worlds
for
what
it
truly
was.
My
heart
filled
with
fear.
Every
time
my
father
steps
stepped
outside
the
house.
I
transitioned
to
fearing
the
police,
rather
than
feeling
protected
by
them
being
in
a
position
to
prevent
younger
generations
from
fearing
police
has
steered
me
towards
law.
For
that
reason,
I
seized
the
opportunity
to
be
a
nevada
youth
legislator.
H
This
bill
gives
the
youth
the
opportunity
to
live
life
without
fear
of
being
victimized
by
implicit
bias.
Senate
bill
108
is
significant
because
it
requires
any
criminal
justice
employees
to
complete
implicit
bias
and
cultural
competency
training,
which
is
highly
crucial
in
a
world
where
systemic
racism
is
normalized
and
bias
is
inevitable.
H
H
Thank
you
greatly,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
judicial
committee
for
listening
to
my
testimony
and
considering
senate
bill
108
again
before
youth
legislator.
Melendez
explains
the
nyo
bill,
our
intention
with
the
measure
and
the
and
the
benefits
that
it
will
deliver.
I
would
like
to
describe
how
we,
as
the
nevada
youth
legislature,
chose
senate
bill
108
for
introduction.
H
On
september,
2nd
2020.
All
18
youth
legislators
participated
in
a
comprehensive
midterm
training
on
the
bdr
development.
We
learned
about
drafting
language,
fiscal
impacts,
advocacy
and
much
more
prior
to
the
next
meeting
and
training.
All
18
youth
legislators
submitted
their
individual
ideas
for
nyls.
One
statutorily
provided
bill
during
the
october
13th
meeting
each
youth
legislature,
each
youth
legislator
presented
his
or
her
own
proposal
and
answered
questions
posed
by
their
nyl
colleagues.
H
During
that
meeting,
we
started
with
18
measures,
then
narrowed
it
down
to
seven
and
then
the
top
two
bdrs
for
further
consideration.
At
our
november
meeting
of
those
two
bdrs
one
focused
on
annual
mental
health
screenings
for
school-aged
children,
the
other
addressed
discriminat
discriminatory
inequities
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
H
By
the
time
we
came
together
for
the
november
19th
meeting,
youth
legislators
were
eager
to
learn
more
about
these
two
remaining
bdrs
during
full
legislative
hearings,
with
five
expert
witnesses
for
each
measure.
After
comprehensive
testimonies
and
careful
q.
A
with
these
witnesses,
the
nyl
selected,
the
juvenile
justice
pdr
proposed
by
youth
legislator
melendez
in
january
2021.
H
H
on
march
16
2021,
the
senate
committee
on
judiciary
heard
testimony
regarding
senate
bill.
108
after
hearing
after
the
hearing
that
nyl
facilitated
a
conference
call
so
the
concerned
parties
could
discuss,
suggested
suggestions
for
refining
the
bill
with
an
amendment.
The
amendment
was
submitted
to
the
senate
committee
on
judiciary
and
was
passed
as
amended
on
april
2nd
2021.
H
Unfortunately,
the
nyl
has
not
had
the
opportunity
to
discuss
or
vote
anything
beyond
what
was
originally
included
in
senate
bill
108.
Therefore,
neither
youth
legislator
melendez,
nor
I
will
be
able
to
take
position
on
behalf
of
the
nyl
on
the
amendments
or
any
proposed
changes
going
forward.
However,
we
can
provide
committee
members
with
the
perspective
of
how
the
nyo
discussed
and
pres
and
process
senate
bill
108.
H
In
addition
to
this
youth
legislator
melendez,
and
I
can
answer
any
questions
and
share
input
as
individual
youth
legislators,
it
is
now
again
my
privilege
to
introduce
youth
legislator
giuliana
melendez
to
help
you
better
understand
the
need
for
senate
bill.
108
and
why
this
nyl
proposed
legislative
measure
powerfully
addresses
our
concerns
and
about
discriminatory
inequities
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
H
I
Good
morning
for
the
record,
I
am
youth
legislator,
juliana,
melendez,
representing
senate
district
10..
I
appear
before
you
today
as
the
original
sponsor
of
the
bdr
selected
by
the
nevada
youth
legislature
as
its
2021
legislative
measure,
sb
108.
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
before
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
I
I
I
So
an
example
of
a
concept
comparable
to
sb
108
that
was
successfully
implemented
in
nevada,
is
restorative
justice
for
restorative
justice,
community
organizations
advocated
and
provided
the
framework
for
this
within
schools
during
the
last
legislative
session
and
assisted
in
the
implementation
of
it
by
having
outside
organizations,
provide
the
framework
and
work
with
school
social
workers.
The
restorative
justice
trainings
became
characteristically
pro
bono,
some
specific
community
organizations
that
actually
would
help
with
funding
and
or
provide
free
trainings
needed
for
sb
108's.
I
By
collaborating
with
them,
we
would
be
able
to
have
the
trainings
mandated
in
sb-108,
possibly
required
by
the
safe
bar,
which
would
help
with
any
possible
costs
grants
from
the
federal
office
of
juvenile
justice
and
delinquency.
Prevention
are
also
a
possibility,
given
the
necessity
for
the
assistance
of
external
organizations.
I
Lastly,
the
state
of
nevada
spends
2.7
times
as
much
per
prisoner
as
per
public
school
student
and
with
less
students
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
We
can
allocate
these
funds
towards
community
needs
in
today's
current
political
climate.
It
is
urgent,
more
so
now
than
ever
to
address
the
inequality
faced
by
minority
youth
within
the
nevada
and
juvenile
justice
system.
I
I
personally
have
friends
who
have
been
targeted
by
school
police
and
treated
differently
compared
to
our
white
counterparts,
specifically
because
of
the
color
of
their
skin.
This
first
hand
is
experience
of
racial
discrimination
against
my
peers,
as
well
as
the
recent
uproar
worldwide
concerning
racism
and
ethnic
disparities
are
what
inspired
me
to
create
this
bill.
I
I
I
At
one
of
our
last
nile
meetings,
a
student
actually
shared
her
encounter
with
the
lvmpd
officer,
who
accused
her
of
being
involved
with
the
crime
simply
because
she
was
black.
We
cannot
allow
instances
like
these
to
keep
occurring
in
nevada
by
supporting
sb
108.
We
are
able
to
prevent
thousands
of
our
youth
from
ending
up
in
a
system
that
leaves
them
psychologically
physically
and
mentally
traumatized.
I
I
C
Thank
you
very
much
chair
yeager
and
thank
you
senator
for
bringing
this
bill,
and
I'm
always
so
amazed
to
see
our
youth
legislators
and
their
poise
and
the
work
they
have
done
on
this
bill,
and
that
is
very
apparent.
So
thank
you.
My
question
is
many
of
your
examples.
You
actually
use
the
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department
and
I
was
looking
in
your
bill
and
you
say
regular
and
routine
contact,
and
I
was
just
wondering
how
you
would
define
that.
G
That
I
will
weigh
in
here
this
is
senator
melanie
schaible
for
the
record
and
the
language
that
you
see
in
the
amended
bill
represents
a
consensus
with
the
supreme
court,
the
division
of
child
and
family
services,
the
d.a
juvenile
divisions
and
juvenile
parole
and
probation,
and
so
my
I
left
that
conversation
understanding
that
the
division
of
child
and
family
services,
so
all
of
the
cps
and
dcfs
employees
who
regularly
interact
with
youth,
would
be
included
in
this,
as
well
as
the
juvenile
probation
officers
and
school
police
officers.
J
I
also
I'm
always
very
impressed
with
our
youth
legislators
and
I'm
I'm
really
happy
to
see
you
senator
weiner,
and
it's
good
to
have
you
here,
chair
shivel,
so
my
question,
youth
legislator,
melendez,
touched
on
the
continuing
legal
education
part
in
section
one
sub,
one
so
our
but
I
didn't.
J
While
she
touched
on
it,
I'm
I'm
not
exactly
sure.
Are
we
saying
that
that
prosecuting
attorneys
and
public
defenders
are
going
to
be
able
to
use
this
as
part
of
their
cle
requirement
for
the
state
for
the
state
bar?
I
know
they
already
do
in-house
cles
that
type
of
thing
and
then
the
second
part
of
that
is.
Is
there
any
work
on
possibly
expanding
it
to
all
attorneys
in
nevada.
I
Youth
legislator
melendez
for
the
record.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question.
I
When
I
originally
mentioned
that
in
my
speech
I
was
referring
to
an
instance,
we
had
at
a
meeting
a
I
would
say
about
a
month
ago,
where
I
believe
it
was
senator
weiner
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
who
just
out
of
the
blue
mentioned
that
that
could
be
a
possible
way
to
reduce
costs,
I'm
not
sure
that
that
was
included
in
the
amended
language
of
the
bill.
That
was
simply
an
idea
we
had
like,
I
said,
to
reduce
costs.
I
Yeah,
that's
that's
where
the
origin
of
that
idea
came
from
in
my
speech.
I
wasn't
necessarily
referring
to
language
in
the
bill.
G
Personally,
I
think
it
would
be
fantastic
to
see
the
nevada
bar
association
do
implicit
bias,
trainings
for
all
attorneys
and
then,
whether
you
know
a
public
defender's
office
or
an
defense
office
that
works
with
kids
wants
to
send
all
their
attorneys
to
that
training
or
whether
those
attorneys
want
to
go
individually,
I
think,
would
be
fantastic,
but
there
is
nothing
prohibiting
the
training
from
being
used
for
other
purposes
as
well,
whether
that
is
a
continuing
legal
education
requirement.
L
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you.
I.
J
Too,
want
to
commend
the
youth
legislators.
I
was
able
to
participate
with
them
down
the
ground,
so
you're
building
one
day
and
they're
all
very
impressive
for
being
so
young,
and
so
it's
good
to
see
you
here,
so
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
training.
So
it's
it's
not
it's
from
what
I
heard
you
say,
senator
scheible,
it's
not
like
a
certain
amount
of
hours.
It's
you
know,
you're,
not
saying
you
have
to
have
ten
hours
or
three
hours.
J
It's
just
part
of
it
could
be
part
of
another
training,
or
course
is
that
right.
G
This
is
melanie
scheible
for
the
record
and,
yes,
that's,
correct.
You'll,
see
subsection
two
of
section:
one
outlines
what
the
training
must
include.
So
it's
not
an
hours
requirement.
It's
you
know,
trauma
informed
training,
the
historical
inequities
in
the
juvenile
justice
system,
implicit
bias,
cultural
competency
for
the
lgbtq
community,
as
well
as
racial
and
ethnic
minorities.
J
Are
some
departments
already
doing
this?
Did
you
also
say
that.
G
This
is
melanie
shuttle
for
the
record,
and,
yes,
that
is
my
understanding.
For
example,
the
clark
county
district,
attorney's,
juvenile
justice
or
sorry
juvenile
division
already
does
training
that
I
think
they
determined
would
either
meet
these
requirements
or
would
only
require
a
small
adjustment
to
meet
the.
L
A
You,
okay,
let
me
ask
just
a
couple
of
questions
if
I
could
so.
The
first
question
I
have
is
in
section
1
subsection
1
of
the
bill,
so
I'm
looking
at
lines
14
to
18,
and
it
indicates
there
that
this
training
is
to
be
completed
at
least
once
every
two
years,
but
at
the
beginning
on
line
14,
it
says
unless
the
regulations,
so
my
question
was:
is
the
intent
here
that
it's
gonna
that
by
regulation
it
could
be
required.
A
G
A
Thank
you
chair.
I
thought
that
was
the
answer
and
then
the
other
question
I
have
is
just
a
little
bit
of
curiosity.
So,
on
that
same
page,
going
down
to
lines
31
and
32,
it's
talking
about
some
of
the
information
that
would
be
provided
in
the
training
and
in
subsection
two
there.
It
says
historical
inequities
in
the
juvenile
justice
and
criminal
justice
systems,
and
so
my
question
was,
I
understand,
I
think
the
bill
in
its
original
form
was
a
little
bit
broader,
but
this
reprint
relates
to
juvenile
justice.
G
All
right,
melanie
scheible
for
the
record,
and
I
think
that
the
two
are
pretty
inextricably
linked.
It's
hard
to
provide
a
lot
of
information
about
the
juvenile
justice
system,
without
also
explaining
what
goes
on
in
the
larger
criminal
justice
system,
and
unfortunately,
we
also
see
that
a
lot
of
people
who
start
in
the
juvenile
justice
system
are
later
involved
in
the
larger
criminal
justice
system.
A
Thank
you
for
that
response.
Certainly
I
understand
that
and
I
for
one
believe
more
training
is
always
better
than
less
training
as
we
move
along
in
this
world.
I
think,
with
our
life
experiences
and
hearing
from
others,
including
our
youth
legislators,
about
what
their
experiences
have
been.
I
think
we
can
all
learn
from
that.
So
I
certainly
appreciate
the
inclusion
of
that
in
the
bill
last
call
for
questions
committee
members.
Are
there
additional
questions
for
our
presenters
before
we
take
testimony?
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
additional
questions
so
again.
I
want
to
thank
you,
chair,
scheible,
senator
weiner,
and
to
our
two
youth
legislators.
Thank
you.
This
is
a
great
morning
for
senate
district,
nine
and
therefore
assembly
district
nine.
So
it's
very
nice
to
have
you
here
presenting
and
we'll
ask
you
to
sit
tight
for
just
a
moment,
we'll
take
some
testimony
on
the
bill
and
then
we'll
have
a
chance
for
concluding
remarks.
A
So
at
this
time,
I'll
open
it
up
for
testimony
in
support
of
senate
bill
108
and
we're
going
to
start
here
in
the
room
in
carson
city,
so
chair,
scheible
you'll,
have
to.
We
only
have
one
chair
at
the
table
these
days,
so
we'll
ask
you
to
vacate
and
we'll
take
testimony
here
in
carson
city.
Mr
shifak,
please
go
ahead.
M
Hello
and
thank
you,
chad,
yeager
and
committee
members
for
having
me
today
and
it's
great
to
be
here
in
person.
I
actually
still
can
see
my
face
in
the
reflection
here.
I
want
to
thank
the
youth
legislators
for
bringing
this
extremely
important
bill
and
for
allowing
me
to
work
with
them.
It
has
been
a
pleasure
and
an
honor.
They
are
correct
that
in
clark
county,
while
black
students
make
up
about
fourteen
percent
of
the
student
body,
they
make
up
over
forty
three
percent
of
arresting
citations.
M
If
you
are
black
and
the
youth
in
nevada,
you
are
3.5
times
as
likely
to
be
arrested
as
their
white
counterpart.
This
type
of
training
is
not
going
to
cure
everything,
but
I
know
firsthand.
I
have
taken
much
of
this
training.
While
I
got
my
master's
degree
in
social
work,
we
did
cultural
competency,
training,
implicit
bias,
training.
I
was
putting
myself
through
school
by
substitute
teaching.
M
I
myself
was
able
to
identify
that
I
noticed
and
addressed
behavior
that
was
disruptive
by
students
who
did
not
look
like
me
quicker
than
I
did
for
students
who
did
I
myself
had
implicit
bias.
It
was
aggravating.
It
was
upsetting,
but
when
you
understand
the
history
of
implicit
bias
that
it
is
part
of
our
culture,
that
is
part
of
how
we
grew
up,
it's
part
of
how
we
watched
teachers
and
other
people
act,
you're
able
to
address
it.
I
was
able
to
better
serve
my
students.
I
was
a
substitute
teacher.
The
stakes
were
low.
M
I
saw
different
kids
randomly
periodically
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
The
stakes
are
extremely
high.
Implicit
bias
can
mean
the
difference
between
removing
a
kid
from
his
house
or
letting
him
stay
with
his
parents.
It
can
mean
detention
or
not,
detention,
it
can
mean
life
or
death
in
some
situations.
The
least
we
can
do.
M
A
M
A
Thank
you,
mr
chipak.
It's
good
to
see
you
here
in
person.
After
hearing
from
you
on
the
phone
so
often
and
we're
all
dealing
with
reflections
as
well,
I
see
all
kinds
of
different
reflections
in
these
plexiglas
penalty
boxes
as
we
like
to
call
them.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
this
morning.
Anyone
else
in
the
room
in
carson
city,
welcome,
senator
harris
and
please
proceed.
N
Good
morning,
chair
yeager
and
members
of
the
committee-
forgive
me
you
will
be
hearing
from
me
quite
a
bit
today,
but
as
I
serve
on
the
board
of
the
youth
legislature,
I
felt
I
should
come
forward
and
let
you
all
know
that
it
is
one
of
my
better
forms
of
public
service
and
I'm
very
proud
of
the
youth
legislature
and
and
the
work
that
they've
been
able
to
do.
I
implore
your
support
for
this
bill.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
your
testimony,
senator
harris.
We
were
going
to
call
this
senator
harris
friday
in
assembly
judiciary.
We
still
may
do
that
by
the
end
of
the
meeting,
so
we'll
be
seeing
a
lot
of
you
this
morning.
I'm
sure
anyone
else
here
in
carson
city
would
like
to
testify
in
support
of
senate
bill
108..
A
K
K
F
Good
morning
my
name
is
deshaun
jackson
b-a-s-h-u-n-j-a-c-k-s-o-n,
I
serve
as
the
director
of
children's
safety
and
welfare
policies
with
the
children's
advocacy
alliance,
and
this
morning
we
stand
in
support
of
senate
bill
108.
We
believe
that
it's
important
to
address
implicit
bias
and
cultural
competency
and
then
in
saying
that
having
those
trainings
necessary,
we
thank
the
nevada
youth
legislator
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
The
bill,
sponsors
and
the
committee
chair.
Thank
you
all
so
much.
K
O
O
I'd
like
to
thank
the
nevada
youth
legislature
for
including
me
in
conversations
on
the
language
of
sb-108
and
before
I
put
my
specific
support
on
the
record,
I'd
like
to
help
out
with
a
couple
questions
that
were
asked
since
I
was
proudly
involved
in
the
the
language
that
came
out
for
amendment
to
assemblywoman
bill
gray,
axelrod's
question
around
regular
and
routine
contact,
the
intent
of
that
when
we
put
employees
in
the
juvenile
justice
system
who
work
with
children,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
excluded
support
staff
so
that
my
legal
secretaries
at
the
da's
office
or
legal
secretary
working
for
the
director
of
juvenile
justice
services,
who
would
not
have
regular
or
routine
contact
with
a
child,
would
not
have
to
be
mandated
to
take
this
training.
O
As
to
chair
yeager's
question
around
inequities
in
the
criminal
justice
system
being
included
with
the
juvenile
justice
system.
I
remind
everyone
here
that
we
still
certify
children
into
the
criminal
justice
system
on
both
certification
hearings
and
direct
files,
which
this
committee
has
heard
about
earlier
this
session,
and
so
it
goes
it
as
senator
scheibel
said,
it
goes
hand
in
hand
that
we
need
to
understand
that
there
are
historical
inequities
in
both
systems,
because
our
children
do
end
up
in
the
criminal
justice
system.
O
I
sit
as
a
member
of
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
committee's
racial
and
ethnic
disparity
subcommittee,
which
is
chaired
by
rebecca
graham
out
of
sierra
phage
in
northern
nevada.
In
the
summer
of
2020,
we
embarked
on
a
survey
of
all
law
enforcement
agencies
across
the
state
of
nevada
to
determine
what
training
law
enforcement
received
specific
to
children
and
what
we
learned
was.
There
was
already
training
around
implicit
bias
and
cultural
competency
and
and
a
general
training
on
juvenile
law.
O
But,
as
you
can
imagine
that
general
training
was
just
basically
how
old
you
a
child
is
before
you
can
charge
them.
What
an
adjudication
is
versus
a
guilty
plea,
so
it's
really
just
explaining
how
the
juvenile
justice
system
works,
but
nothing
specific
to
child
development
or,
more
importantly,
how
adverse
childhood
experiences
impact
children's
decision-making
and
behaviors
my
career.
I
grew
up
handling
children
in
foster
care.
I
spend
probably
every
day
at
least
talking
to
one
child
within
the
system
being
foster
care
or
juvenile
justice.
O
So
in
20
years,
I've
come
to
understand,
while
getting
frustrated
that
the
adverse
experience
that
the
child
has
growing
up
definitely
paints
how
they
respond
to
me,
and
so
this,
in
my
opinion,
the
youth
legislature,
including
this
specific
training
requirement,
sb
108,
is
going
to
have
a
significant
impact,
a
positive
impact
on
our
state.
I
thank
them
for
bringing
forth
this
bill.
I
really
thank
them
for
listening
when
I
ask
them
to
put
that
in
and
I
support
sb
108
in
its
passage.
Thank
you.
A
K
D
F
D
That
they've
brought
forward.
If
you
all
remember
the
last
session,
we
helped
them
to
pass
the
gay
transplanted
defense
bill,
and
so
once
again
they
are
really
taking
on
some
heavy
and
much
needed
work.
That
needs
to
be
done
with
within
law
enforcement,
juvenile
justice
in
particular,
so
again
full
support
of
sb108.
A
K
F
P
F
K
D
First,
I
want
to
thank
the
nevada
youth
legislature
for
proposing
this
important
legislation
and
for
their
inspiring
testimony
this
morning.
It
is
well
documented
that
systemic
racism
is
prevalent
throughout
the
criminal
justice
system,
with
the
over
policing
and
mass
incarceration
of
community
communities
of
color.
D
According
to
the
vera
institute
of
justice,
black
people
are
incarcerated
in
state
prisons
at
a
5.1
times
greater
than
that
of
white
people.
They
explain
that
these
racial
disparities
in
the
criminal
justice
system
are
no
accident,
but
rather
rooted
in
the
history
of
oppression
and
discriminatory
decision
making
that
have
deliberately
targeted
black
people
and
help
create
an
inaccurate
picture
of
crime
that
deceptively
links
them
with
criminality,
sp
108
to
require
implicit
bias
and
cultural
competency
training
is
an
important
step
in
rooting
out
systemic
racism
from
our
criminal
justice
system.
K
F
Good
morning,
chairman
yeager
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
this
is
john
piero
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office,
testifying
in
support
of
this
bill.
We'd
like
to
thank
the
nevada
youth
legislature
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
I
think
implicit
bias
and
racism
are
two
things
that
need
to
be
rooted
out
at
our
system
and
especially
our
criminal
justice
system.
In
order
to
stop
the
school-to-prison
pipeline,
the
nevada,
youth
legislature
is
correct
that
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
K
D
Good
morning,
cherry
jaeger
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
this
is
kendra
burchie,
k-e-n-d-r-a
b-e-r-t-s-c-h-y,
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
I
just
want
to
echo
the
statements
before
me
as
to
the
importance
regarding
this
bill,
the
importance
of
ensuring
that
our
juveniles
who
are
involved
in
this
system,
trust
and
believe
that
the
others
who
are
the
stakeholders
can
be
held
accountable
to
ensure
that
they're
treated
fairly
I'll.
D
Just
note
that
this
starts
as
simple
as
when
somebody
enters
into
a
building
one
of
the
juveniles,
which
is
how
to
interact
and
to
ensure
that
they
are
treated
fairly
and
aren't
looked
at
differently.
I'll.
Just
also
note
that
I
was
able
to
already
conduct
these
trainings
through
other
agencies
within
nevada.
We
have
a
lot
of
resources
for
the
attorneys.
This
will
be
considered
for
continuing
legal
education,
which
is
required.
D
We
have
already
a
mandate
for
ethics
dissatisfies,
the
ethics
credit,
so
we
do
believe
that
this
is
absolutely
possible,
cost
effective
and,
more
importantly,
just
needed
for
our
juveniles
to
ensure
that
they
feel
like
they
have
a
voice
that
is
heard,
regardless
of
who
they're
speaking
to,
and
so
we
do
believe
that
it
helps
to
build
that
trust,
and
we
urge
your
support.
Thank
you.
K
For
callers,
who
have
recently
joined
the
call
and
would
like
to
testify
in
support
of
senate
bill
108,
please
press
star,
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
and
caller
with
the
last
three
digits
of
one
zero.
Four,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin.
K
L
A
Thank
you
for
your
testimony,
ms
martinez,
and
I
just
want
to
note.
I
don't
know
that
the
legislature
has
ever
been
as
accessible
as
it
is
this
session.
We
just
had
a
caller
at
the
gym
call
in
to
provide
supportive
testimony.
So
I
wanted
to
note
that
for
the
record,
although
the
building
is
not
completely
open,
yet
we
are
allowing
all
kinds
of
folks
to
testify
this
session
at
the
legislature
from
different
locations,
and
I
for
one
think
that
makes
for
a
better
legislative
process
and
better
legislation.
A
A
A
K
A
Thank
you
bps.
I
will
close
opposition
testimony.
I
will
not
open
up
for
neutral
testimony
anybody
with
us
here
in
carson
city
in
the
neutral
position.
I
don't
see
anyone
coming
forward.
We
don't
have
anyone
on
the
zoom
in
neutral
bps.
Could
we
go
to
the
phone
lines
to
see
if
there's
anybody
there
in
neutral.
K
F
Good
morning,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
john
mccormick
j-o-h-n-m-c-c-o-r-m-I-c-k,
the
assistant
court
administrator
at
the
nevada
supreme
court.
I
am
calling
in
under
neutral,
as
I
think,
the
this
is
now
policy
question
for
the
legislature
and
and
we
don't
take
a
position
on
that,
but
I
do
want
to
express
how
grateful
we
were
for
all
the
work
that
was
done
by
our
youth
legislators
and
their
advisor
and
all
the
interested
parties
in
crafting
an
amendment
that
alleviated
the
concerns
that
we
raised
on
the
other
side.
K
D
K-A-T-H-R-Y-N-R-O-O-S-E,
deputy
administrator
for
the
division
of
child
and
family
services,
I
want
to
thank
the
youth
legislature
for
bringing
this
bill
to
the
legislative
session,
and
I
also
want
to
congratulate
the
representatives
of
the
youth
legislature
on
their
impressive
testimony.
Today.
Dcfs
currently
has
regulations
relating
to
training
for
juvenile
justice
agencies
in
knack
62b,
and
should
this
bill
pass,
this
update
would
be
feasible
without
additional
resources.
D
Additionally,
dcfs
also
has
a
pro
already:
has
a
process
in
place
to
review
content
of
mandatory
trainings
for
state
and
county
juvenile
justice
agencies,
and
this
could
be
easily
added
to
the
process,
so
we
are
neutral
today
and
we
look
forward
to
continue
continuing
to
work
with
the
stakeholders
on
this
bill.
Thank
you.
K
A
G
A
H
Thank
you,
chair
yeager
and
members
of
the
committee
youth
legislator,
munich
missile,
for
the
record.
I
would
just
like
to
quickly
note
that
there
are
six
other
youth
legislators
who
have
submitted
power,
powerful
written
testimonies
to
support
the
passage
of
senate
bill
108,
and
these
testimonies
should
have
been
provided
to
you
and
should
be
available
on
nellis
as
well
and
senate
bill
108
has
the
ability
to
significantly
change
the
lives
of
youth,
and
these
trainings
are
crucial
to
address
implicit
bias.
H
A
I
Youth
legislator
melendez
for
the
record.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
committee
today
for
giving
us
the
time
to
give
our
testimony.
This
has
been
an
incredibly
enriching
experience
for
myself
and
chair
haley
misskull.
Thank
you
so
much,
and
I
really
urge
you
to
pass
this.
I
echo
cherrylanding
mystical
sentiments
that
this
boat
has
the
potential
and
will
change
the
lives
of
nevadan
youth
for
the
better.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all,
and
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
chair,
scheible
and
senator
harris
for
your
work
with
the
youth
legislator
and,
of
course,
senator
weiner.
You've
been
a
tireless
champion
of
this
program
for
longer
than
I
can
remember.
So.
Thank
you.
You
should
obviously
be
very
proud
of
what
the
program
has
become
and
I
didn't
want
to
miss
miss
ashdown
as
well.
A
We
hope
you
all
have
a
fantastic
weekend,
and
I
will
now
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
108
and
we're
now
going
to
go
to
senator
harris
part
2
of
our
agenda.
We
will
go
to
senate
bill
148
in
its
first
reprint.
I
will
now
open
the
hearing
on
that
bill
senate
bill.
148,
establishes
provisions
regarding
the
reporting
of
hate
crimes,
welcome
back
senator
harris
and
when
you're
ready,
please
proceed
and
then
I'm
sure
we'll
have
a
few
questions
for
you.
N
N
Thank
you
for
providing
me
the
opportunity
to
present
senate
bill
148
to
you
all,
a
bill
which
seeks
to
codify
and
statute
the
reporting
of
hate
crimes
in
nevada
and
to
ensure
that
the
data
gathered
in
relation
to
those
crimes
is
reported
to
the
federal
bureau
of
investigation
for
inclusion
in
its
annual
report
and
made
publicly
available
before
going
over
the
specifics
of
sb
148.
I
would
like
to
explain
briefly
why
I
believe
it
is
important
for
us
to
pass
this
bill.
N
Hispanic
and
jewish
populations
saw
the
highest
year-over-year
increases,
but
asian-americans
and
transgender
people
also
saw
increases
in
the
number
of
attacks
they
experienced
in
nevada.
We
saw
an
overall
increase
between
2018
and
2019
of
nearly
79
percent,
with
an
increase
related
to
race,
ethnicity
or
an
or
ancestry
of
nearly
130
percent.
N
N
While
I'm
happy,
while
I'm
happy
to
note
that
we
in
nevada
are
already
compiling
and
tracking
this
kind
of
information,
our
law
enforcement
agencies
are
not
statutorily
required
to
do
so.
Nor
is
the
central
repository
for
nevada
records
of
criminal
history
statutorily
required
to
provide
this
information
to
the
fbi
or
to
the
public.
N
This
is
something
the
legislature
should
address:
tracking
and
reporting.
This
kind
of
data
is
vital
if
we
are
to
have
any
success
in
stopping
these
crimes.
Likewise,
how
this
information
is
gathered
and
disseminated
must
not
be
subject
to
political
interference
of
any
kind
or
to
the
changing
dispositions
of
agency
leadership.
N
For
these
reasons,
senate
bill
148
the
first
reprint
as
you
all,
should
have
in
front
of
you
addresses
data
gathering
and
reporting
in
two
ways.
First,
it
ensures
the
nevada
law
enforcement
agencies
report
hate
crimes
to
the
central
repository
each
month.
The
repository
will
in
turn,
report
this
information
to
the
fbi.
N
Thank
you,
assembly
and
jager,
chair
yeager
and
committee
members
for
hearing
sp
148
today.
I
hope
you'll
agree
with
me
that
codifying
and
statute
the
requirements
for
data
collection
and
reporting
of
hate
crimes
is
vitally
important
if
we
are
to
understand
and
shed
further
light
on
this
issue
in
a
consistent,
meaningful
way
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
C
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
senator
harris
for
the
presentation.
So
my
question
is
so
right
now.
Is
it
more
voluntary,
the
reporting
of
data
to
the
fbi
and
and
right
now,
you're
saying
many
of
the
agencies
are
doing
it
so
so
this
is
just
to
get
it
in
statutes.
So
we
already
have
a
a
good
policy
of
of
accumulating
this
data.
N
N
We
have
no
mandate
that
that
information
be
shared
with
with
the
fbi
and
also
no
mandate
that
it
be
made
publicly
available,
so
that
nevadans
can
have
some
idea
of
what
these
hate
crime
statistics
are
on
an
aggregate
level.
Thank
you.
Follow-Up.
C
Chair,
my
other
question
is
in
section
five
here:
it
talks
about
the
data
being
submitted
it.
The
the
data,
is
strictly
the
events
that
have
happened.
There
are
no
names
for
the
people
right,
no
names
are.
N
A
Q
Thank
you,
chair,
assemblywoman,
gonzales,
district
16
for
the
record.
Thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
this
very
important
piece
of
legislation.
Q
My
question
is:
when
it's
made
publicly
available,
is
this
like
a
website
or
do
you
have
to
request
it
like
a
data
request
and
if
it's
a
data
request,
is
there
a
fee
associated
with
that
as
well.
N
J
Thank
you
thank
you,
chair
and,
and
thank
you
senator.
I
have
a
question.
I
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
be
able
to
answer
it-
and
I
don't
know
if
we've
got
the
central
repository
on
the
line
or
not
so
I'll,
just
put
it
out
there
and
maybe
if
you
can
or
someone
else
can
or
I
can
contact
them
later.
J
My
question
is
about
the
established
language
about
the
data
in
section
2
sub
4..
So
it's
not
changed
language,
but
it's.
It
says
that
there's
not
going
to
be
any
information
that
will
reveal
the
identity
of
an
individual
victim
of
a
crime,
and
I
was
thinking
more
about
when
organizations
are
targeted
like
synagogues
or
mosques.
I
mean
especially,
there
are
some
areas
where
I
I
think
there
might
just
be
one
mosque,
and
if
you
put
that
that
record
out
there,
it's
obviously
going
to
be
the
most.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblywoman
cohen,
I'll,
give
it
my
best
shot.
It
is
if
the
data
is
available.
What
you
might
see
is
in
clark
county,
there
were
x
number
of
hate
crimes,
here's
the
categories
that
they
fell
into.
N
I
don't
believe
that
that
you
have
any
more
difficulty
in
reporting
just
because
the
hate
crime
that
was
committed
was
against
an
entity
as
opposed
to
a
individual
person.
So
I
believe
we
should
be
able
to
collect
that
data
without
obviously
putting
out
who
the
target
might
have
been.
A
Let
me
go
ahead
and
ask
a
question
if
it
could
senator
harris
in
the
first
section
of
the
bill
subsection
one
I'm
looking
at
line
five,
and
so
the
reporting
requirement
is
re
reporting
all
crimes
that
manifest
evidence
of
prejudice
and
the
reporting
has
to
happen
by
local
law
enforcement.
So
my
question
is:
is
law
enforcement
the
one
who's
going
to
make
the
determination
of
whether
there's
manifest
evidence
of
prejudice,
or
is
that
going
to
be?
You
know,
in
consultation
with
the
district
attorney
who
may
charge
a
hate
crime
or
a
hate
crime
enhancement?
N
A
O
Tonya
brown
advocates
for
the
inmates
and
the
innocent.
Thank
you,
members,
chair
yeager
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary.
We
strongly
support
this
bill.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Ms
brown
appreciate
that
anybody
else
here
in
carson
city,
okay,
don't
see
additional
testimony
in
carson
city.
I
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
on
the
zoom,
but
I'm
going
to
give
it
just
a
moment
in
case
I'm
wrong
about
that.
If
you
are
on
the
zoom
and
like
to
testify
and
support,
please
just
unmute
yourself
and
let
me
know
I
don't
hear
that
happening
so
at
this
time
bps.
Could
we
go
to
the
phone
lines
and
take
testimony
and
support
there.
A
A
K
K
K
A
Thank
you,
bps
I'll,
close
opposition
testimony.
I
believe
the
caller
that
was
on
was
mr
wade,
and
I
suspect
that
maybe
he
was
in
support
of
the
bill
and
just
didn't
dial
quick
enough
so
bps
could
we
just
go
back
to
support
and
see
if
mr
wade
is
there
with
zero
six,
nine
ending
number
would
like
to
offer
testimony
and
support.
K
K
D
All
right,
thank
you
chair.
Yes,
this
is
andre
wade,
calling
in
support
a-n-d-r-e,
w-a-d-e
silver
state
equality,
state
director,
apologies
for
the
crefoco,
so
in
short,
in
full
support
of
sd148.
D
There
was
a
time
a
couple
of
years
ago
when
we
were
working
on
on
the
gay
transplanting
defense
bill
and
there
was
conversations
about
hate
crime
data
being
available,
but
it
wasn't
readily
available.
Even
if
you
go
to
some
of
the
fbi
websites
and
all
these
things
trying
to
find
data,
that's
specific
to
nevada
and
that's
consistent
is
hard
to
find
so
having
consistent
data
is
going
to
be
much
needed
and
very
important
for
accountability
and
just
knowledge
so
again
in
support
of
fd148.
Thank.
A
A
K
K
A
N
I
just
want
to
thank
you
dallas
harris
for
the
record.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
again
for
taking
the
time
to
hear
this
bill.
The
testimony
was
a
little
bit
more
robust
on
the
senate
side.
So,
if
you
all
are
are
interested,
please
feel
free
to
to
look
back
at
that
hearing,
but
thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
your
questions
and
your
time.
A
Thank
you
so
much
senator
harris,
I'm
now
going
to
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
148,
but
please
don't
go
far
because
we
have
now
reached
part
three
of
the
senator
harris
trilogy
this
morning
in
assembly,
judiciary
to
be
determined.
Whether
part
three
is
better
than
part
one
or
part
two.
So
we'll
leave
that
up
to
you
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
open
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
212
on
its
first
reprint.
That
measure
revises
provisions
relating
to
the
use
of
force
by
police
officers,
welcome
back
senator
harris
and
please
proceed
when
you're
ready.
N
All
right,
good
morning
again,
all
I
am
sandra
dallas
harris
representing
district
11..
I
did
not
count,
but
I
believe
roughly,
I
have
about
50
more
bills
coming
to
this
committee,
so
hopefully
we'll
have
I'll
get
my
own
week.
That
would
be
fantastic,
I'm
here
to
present
sb
212
to
you
all
today.
This
bill
is
a
labor
of
love
that
I
have
worked
on
months
with
various
stakeholders
and
I
believe
we've
come
to
a
a
fantastic
place
over
the
time.
N
There
are
a
couple
of
amendments
that
did
not
make
it
into
the
first
reprint
that
we
had
all
agreed
on
as
as
stakeholders,
and
so
I'd
like
to
give
that
caveat
at
the
beginning,
you
may
hear
some
testimony
in
opposition
based
upon
the
rules
of
the
committee,
because,
because
those
amendments
have
not
yet
made
it
into
the
into
the
language,
I
am
committed
to
making
sure
that
we
get
this
right
and,
following
up
on
the
understanding
that
I've
had
with
all
stakeholders,
I
do
not
believe
those
changes
change
the
bill
substantively,
which
is
why
I
agreed
to
him
so
I'll
I'll
just
move
forward
with
the
sections
of
the
bill.
N
Okay,
so
this
bill
does
a
couple
of
things.
It
requires
that
police
officers
use
de-escalation
techniques
before
resorting
to
some
higher
level
of
force
if
they
have
to
resort
to
that
higher
level
of
force.
We're
going
to
ask
them
to
identify
themselves
if
it's
safe
to
do
so,
they
can
do
that
just
by
having
their
uniform
on
by
verbal
commands
or
other
reasonable
means
we're
going
to
ask
them
to
use
a
level
of
force
that
is
objective
objectively
reasonable.
N
We
can
balance
that
against
the
level
of
force
or
resistance
that
is
being
used
by
the
person
they
are
trying
to
either
arrest
or
subdue
and,
to
the
extent
possible,
that
force
should
be
carefully
controlled.
N
What
kind
of
physical
threat
do
they
actually
pose?
We're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
ask
them
to
put
a
policy
together
on
that
we're
also
putting
together.
One
of
my
favorite
pieces
of
this
bill
is
a
use
of
force
database.
A
lot
of
our
police
departments
are
already
collecting
this
data.
I'll
turn
you
to
las
vegas
metro's
report
that
they
did
over
the
last.
N
I
think
it
covers
five
years,
but
it
breaks
down
when
an
officer
shoots
what
the
victim
looks
like
anytime,
an
officer
is
hospitalized
or
or
someone
who
they
are
interacting
with
is
hospitalized
and
a
lot
of
other
extensive
data
similar
to
senate
bill.
148
we're
going
to
centralize
that
data
across
the
state
make
it
publicly
available
so
that
we
can
all
make
better
public
policy
decisions
based
on.
N
N
Restraint
chairs.
I
was
not
aware
that
we
even
used
restraint
chairs
anymore
for
those
who
are
not
familiar.
N
N
N
If
you're
going
to
use
chemical
agents
to
disperse
make
it
an
unlawful
call,
it
in
a
lawful
assembly,
first
give
people
a
root
of
egress,
allow
them
time
to
comply.
Give
dispersal
orders
again.
This
comes
from
operating
procedure
from
las
vegas
metro,
which
was
revised
after
they
assessed
their
actions
during
the
protests
of
last
summer,
and
so
this
bill
really
is
trying
to
put
the
best
practices
into
law
so
that
we
can
standardize
it
across
the
state.
N
One
thing
I'd
like
to
note
in
this
section
is:
it
is
not
clear,
although
it
was
my
intention,
this
is
one
of
the
amendments
that
I'll
have
to
make
that
officers
do
not
have
to
go
through
the
rigmarole
of
doing
the
three
dispersal
orders
and
all
of
that
when
there
is
an
imminent
threat
to
person
or
or
property,
and
so
I
will
be
submitting
an
amendment
to
make
that
clear
and
as
well
as
an
amendment
that
was
proposed
by
the
city
of
reno,
to
kind
of
work
on
that
use
of
force
language.
N
But
again
I
don't
believe
it.
It
substantively
changes
the
the
bill.
With
that,
I
will
submit
myself
to
any
questions
that
you
all
have
as
long
as
chair
yeager.
You
allow
me
to
invite
my
colleague
miss
walsh,
to
give
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
the
use
of
force
and
the
importance
of
collecting
that
data.
A
E
All
right
for
the
record,
my
name
is
emily
walsh,
chair,
yeager
and
members
of
the
committee.
First,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
having
me
here
today
to
present
on
sb
212
and
express
my
thanks
to
senator
harris
the
primary
sponsor
for
bringing
it
forward
this
session,
I'm
here
to
speak
to
the
importance
of
data
collection
and
compilation
in
regards
to
section
three
of
this
bill.
E
I
first
want
to
give
you
some
background
about
myself
and
why
I
am
able
to
talk
about
this
continue
with
an
overview
of
the
current
state
of
the
data
on
this
topic,
as
well
as
the
leading
sources
of
this
data.
I
wanted
to
offer
some
statistics
specifically
from
nevada
on
this
topic
and
then,
lastly,
offer
some
closing
remarks.
E
I
am
a
recent
graduate
of
two
master's
degrees
programs,
a
master
of
arts
in
politics
and
public
administration
and
a
master
of
science
in
political
science.
The
programs
that
I
participated
in
are
heavily
focused
on
research,
design
and
quality,
and
within
these
programs
I
specialized
in
two
areas
comparative
politics
and
policy,
analysis
and
quantitative
methods.
E
E
E
Despite
these
efforts,
mapping
police
violence
estimates
that
their
database
only
covers
about
92
percent
of
all
officer
involved
deaths
within
their
time
frame.
This
time
frame
also
only
extends
back
to
2013..
The
missing
eight
percent
and
the
shortened
time
frame
are
due
to
law
enforcement
agencies
and
officers
not
being
required
to
disclose
deaths.
E
E
Previous
iterations
of
this
legislation,
such
as
the
bill
passed
in
2000
of
the
same
name,
resulted
in
nothing.
States
took
at
least
a
few
years
before
sending
in
the
data
required
and
the
law
expired
in
2006
before
a
single
report
was
released
to
the
public
because
of
the
lack
of
official
reports
and
data
dissemination.
These
incomplete
databases,
despite
their
best
efforts
to
be
comprehensive,
are
the
only
source
of
this
information
available
and
accessible
to
the
wider
public
now
moving
kind
of
on
to
nevada.
E
Specifically,
I
wanted
to
take
some
time
to
present
some
statistics
from
mapping
police
violence.
This
these
statistics
were
downloaded
on
february
22nd
of
this
year.
They
do
have
an
updated
database
as
of
april
for
april
18th
that
I
just
have
not
downloaded.
I
do
have
the
database
here
specifically
filtered
and
ready
to
answer
any
nevada,
specific
questions
I
can
offer,
but
I
have
a
few
really
important
statistics
that
I
would
like
to
go
over.
E
Specifically
when
we're
looking
at
pd's,
the
las
vegas
metro
was
involved
in
70
of
these
deaths,
which
14
included
black
victims.
The
henderson
pd
north
north,
las
vegas,
pd
and
clark
county
sheriff
are
not
included
within
this
count,
so
that
doesn't
mean
that
only
70
people
were
killed
within
las
vegas.
E
Similarly,
the
reno
pd
was
involved
in
16
deaths,
three
of
which
included
black
victims,
but
the
sparks
pd
and
washoe
county
sheriff
numbers
are
not
included
because
the
mapping
police
violence
database
believes
they've
only
been
able
to
compile
about
92
percent
of
incidents.
That
means
that
feasibly
over
160
officer
involved
deaths,
could
have
occurred
in
nevada
since
2013.
E
These
instances
specifically
are
even
more
difficult
for
public
or
crowd-sourced
efforts
to
compile,
because
they're
not
often
mentioned
in
the
news
at
all
mapping
police
violence
also
does
not
include
instances
where
people
have
died
while
being
held
in
custody
in
facilities
or
while
in
restraint
chairs
that
are
also
discussed
within
this
bill.
It
is
really
only
concerned
with
the
initial
interactions
between
police
and
civilians.
E
These
areas
that
I
just
previously
mentioned
are
even
larger
black
holes
when
it
comes
to
data.
There
is
almost
nothing
that
we
have
on
these
topics,
like
senator
harris
said
before
las
vegas.
Metro
already
does
compile
a
lot
of
these
statistics.
They're
just
maybe
not
made
publicly
available,
and
we
want
to
standardize
that
practice
across
the
entire
state.
E
This
bill
does
not
create
necessarily
a
new
burden
on
law
enforcement
agencies
or
offices
as
well.
The
standardization
of
such
practices,
like
las
vegas,
metro,
already
has
and
making
those
final
reports
and
statistics
public
can
only
increase
the
transparency,
accountability
and
trust
between
peace
officers
and
civilians.
E
So,
basically,
in
conclusion,
I'm
just
here
to
bring
attention
to
the
need
for
accurate
reporting,
compilation
and
dissemination
of
use
of
force
data
so
that
we
as
a
state
can
make
educated
decisions
in
the
future
concerning
the
use
of
force.
Much
of
the
conversation
around
the
use
of
force
by
peace
officers
lacks
data
and
thus
creates
an
absence
of
common
understanding,
let
alone
common
ground.
Statistics
like
these
are
beneficial
to
officers.
Law
enforcement,
heads
public
policy
makers
like
yourselves
and
civilians.
E
A
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
appreciate
the
presentation.
So
we'll
take
questions
and
committee.
What
we'll
do
is
we'll
take
those
questions,
then
we'll
sort
of
see
who's
best
to
answer
those
and
we'll
play
a
little
bit
of
musical
chairs.
I'm
sure
I
have
a
number
of
questions
in
the
queue
already,
so
here's
the
order.
I
think
I
have-
and
I
think
so-
here's
the
order
I
have
so
far.
So
everyone
knows
we'll
start
with
vice
chairwin.
Then
we
have
assemblywoman
gonzalez
assemblyman,
orentlicker,
assemblyman,
o'neill
and
then
perhaps
assemblywoman
cohen.
So
we'll
start
with
vice
chairwin.
C
Not
only
has
this
been
just
a
passion
project
for
you,
I
know
that
it
is
something
that
you
live
and
you
see
in
your
real
life
and-
and
we
all
see
in
our
communities
so-
and
I
also
know
that
you
have
a
magical
way
of
having
everyone
at
the
table
and
going
back
and
forth,
and
I
think
everyone
appreciates
the
hard
work
that
you
put
into
making
sure
that
this
language
gets
where
it
needs
to
be
and
has
the
best
policy
that
we
can
put
in
for
our
state.
C
So
sorry
about
that
little
speech
there.
But
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions.
So
in
section
two
of
your
bill,
I'm
going
to
be
honest
with
you.
I
have
been
reading
this
section
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
I
don't
understand
what
what
what
is
required
of
it
and
I'm
just
wondering-
and
obviously
I
I
I
like
the
intent
I
like,
where
you're
trying
to
go
with
it,
I'm
just
really
confused
on
what
it
is
like,
especially
in
subsection
b,
so
section
section,
two
one:
it's
a
it's.
C
First
of
all,
it's
it's
necessary
for
the
peace
officer
to
use
force.
The
peace
officer
must
and
then
there
are
the
a
and
b
and
they're,
and
so
both
of
those
have
to
be
accomplished
and
then
under
subsection
b,
there's
also
kind
of
a
definition.
That's
another
two
parts,
and
so
I'm
just
confused
by
that
subsection
b.
That
says,
use
only
the
level
of
force
and
level
of
forces
that
balanced
against
the
level
of
force
or
resistance
to
the
extent
feasible.
C
C
I
feel
like
there's
too
many
standards
in
there.
So
I
was
wondering
what
your
intent
was
on
that,
because
I
just
have
concerns
that
if
I
am
having
a
hard
time
reading
it,
I
don't
know
what
it
would
be
like.
You
know,
and
I
know
you've
been
working
with
the
sheriffs
and
police
officers.
So
I'm
wondering
where
that
language
is
what
the
intent
is
behind.
That.
N
Thank
you
for
for
the
question
assemblywoman
win,
chair
yeager.
Do
you
mind
if
I
go
directly.
N
Right,
thank
you
so
much
so
what
what
you
see
here
is
a
a
collection
of
of
input.
The
way
that
I
read
this
is
we
start
at
the
top.
It
has
to
be
objectively
reasonable
under
the
circumstance,
and
that
is
a
a
standard
that
police
officers
are
are
well
acquainted
with
when
it
comes
to
use
of
force
beneath
that
under
one
and
two
is
a
little
bit,
in
my
estimation,
a
little
bit
more
understanding
of
what
that
might
mean
right.
N
Now
you
asked
a
question
about
the
extent
feasible
piece
that
was
a
request
from
some
of
my
law
enforcement
partners
on
this
bill,
so
that
I
don't
require
them
to
be
carefully
controlled
when
the
situation
does
not
necessarily
allow
for
for
that,
and
so
I
wanted
to
ensure
that
officers
can
still
feel
free
to
act
in
a
manner
that
they
need
to
save
their
lives
and
not
be
prosecuted
at
the
end,
because
they
weren't
carefully
controlled
as
they
were.
You
know
in
a
life
or
death
situation,.
C
Chair
mary,
follow
up.
I
I
just
have
some
concerns,
because
there
I
I
understand,
I
definitely
understand
the
intent
that
you're
looking
to
accomplish
here
with
the
language.
I
just
I'm
concerned
that
there's
objectively
reasonable.
Obviously
you
know
I
understand
that
you're
trying
to
incorporate
the
extent
feasible,
but
it's
also
balanced
and
then
others
other
reasonable
means,
there's
like
multiple
levels
of
things,
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
might
be
and
I'd
be
happy
to
like
sit
down
and
see
if
we
can
work
on
some
clarifying
language
that
kind
of
accomplishes
that
intent.
C
The
second
thing
that
I
have
is-
and
I
think
I
have
this
answered,
because
I
did
reach
out
to
mr
callaway,
with
metropolitan
police
department,
but
in
section
four,
under
the
restraint
chair
section,
I
had
looked
at
section
d,
which
was
like
a
member
of
the
medical
staff
conducts
a
medical
evaluation
of
the
person
immediately
before
and
immediately
after,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
you
were
familiar
with
like
how
how
that
takes
place.
Obviously,
if
someone's
going
into
a
restraint
chair,
I
think
they're,
like
very
unique
specialized
specific
circumstances.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Vice
chairwin.
I
actually
have
not
seen
a
medical
staff.
Do
an
evaluation
pre-restraint
chair
myself,
but
it
is
my
understanding.
This
is
current
practice
and
so
the
corrections
officers
law
enforcement
agencies,
especially
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department,
are
already
working
in
this
manner
where
they
want
to
get
someone
assessed
to
make
sure
that
that
the
restraint
chair
isn't
going
to
be
too
strenuous
for
that
that
particular
person.
N
If,
if
I
can
I'll,
let
me
just
quickly
go
back
to
section
two.
I
read
that
and
I
I
don't
anticipate
this
will
address
all
of
your
concerns,
but
I
I
read
that
to
be
a
three-step
requirement
needs
to
be
objectively
reasonable.
It
also
needs
to
be
balanced
against
the
force
and
carefully
controlled.
C
Now
that's
very
clear,
so
maybe
we
can
incorporate
that
chair.
Can
you
indulge
me
just
for
a
couple
more
questions?
I
you
you
kind
of
addressed
it
in
your
presentation
about
potential
amendments
that
were
coming
down,
but
also
in
section
four
section:
seven.
Regarding
the
protest
demonstration.
C
There's
like
a
under
the
section
three,
it
says:
if
there's
an
immediate
threat
of
physical
harm
or
death
to
a
person
or
of
the
immediate
harm
to
property,
then
only
one
order
to
disperse
must
be
provided.
Is
that
the
section
that
you're,
hoping
to
kind
of
clarify
thank.
N
You
for
the
question
assemblywoman
when
it
is
if
there
is
an
immediate
threat
of
physical
harm
or
an
immediate
harm
to
property.
We
had
worked
out
some
language
where
no
dispersal
order
would
be
required
to
allow
officers
to
act
immediately
to
protect
people
and
property.
C
And
then
just
is
that
just
the
policy
that's
already
existing
about
protecting
property
or
in
those
circumstances
where
you
don't
have
to
have
the
dispersal
order-
and
you
know
the
time,
obviously
to
disperse.
N
O
C
Am
I
gonna
point
this
I'm
like
thinking
out
loud
now,
I
I
guess
was
the
intent
to
also
include
physical
harm
and
death
of
a
person,
as
well
as
like
harm
to
property
and
treat
those
like
similarly,.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question
vice
chair
when
I
do
not
intend
to
treat
them.
Similarly,
I
believe
I
worked
on
some
language
with
with
my
colleague,
holly
wilbourne
here
from
the
aclu
that
would
make
the
threat
to
property
just
be
a
little
bit
more
of
a
higher
standard.
You
know
I
don't.
I
don't
want
there
to
be
this
idea
that
there
are
folks
who
are
crossing
a
bridge
or
who
might
be
blocking
traffic,
and
that
would
be
sufficient
to
not
require
in
order
to
disperse
before
some
of
these
actions
happen.
N
So
the
standard
for
for
person
is
is
intended
to
be
a
little
bit
stronger
than
the
standard
for
for
property.
Q
N
N
For
the
question
it
is,
however,
the
policy
was
updated
after
that
death
and
what
you're
looking
at
is
the
modeled.
After
that
updated
version
of
the
policy.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question
someone
gonzales.
I
do
not
know
whether
the
community
was
at
the
table
as
that
policy
was
developed,
but
I
sure,
as
heck
brought
them
to
the
table
as
I
developed
this
bill.
Thank.
Q
You
so
much,
and
then
I
had
another
question
in
regards
to
the
notif.
Sorry,
the
three
orders
to
disperse.
So,
as
many
of
you
all
know,
I
was
heavily
involved
in
the
protests
over
the
summer
and
you
know
sometimes
it's
very
difficult
to
hear.
If
police
are
dispersing.
Sometimes
you
are
dispersing
or
you're
running
away
because
they
are
either
you
know,
shooting
at
you
or
with
tear
gas
right.
So
I'm
just
curious.
Q
How
do
we
know
that
orders
were
dispersed
and
how
do
we
know
that
when
you
are
in
a
large
group,
say
like
downtown
right
there's
like
hundreds
of
people,
that
you
know
that
that
these
orders
were
given
and
that
you
are
trying
to
follow
these
orders,
because
it
can
be
very
difficult,
as
I'm
sure
you're
aware,.
N
Thank
you
thank
you
for
the
question,
assemblywoman
gonzalez
and
I
will
point
you
to
line
40
line
43
on,
let's
see,
page,
seven
and
and
and
that
language
is
in
there
for
for
that
explicit
reason.
So
it
must
be
given
in
a
matter
a
manner
that
each
order
may
be
heard
by
those
persons,
and
then
we
put
some
some
ideas
into
place
there,
including
giving
that
for
multiple
locations
and
at
times,
possibly
in
multiple
languages,
depending
upon
the
crowd.
N
So
the
intent
here
is
for
officers
to
to
do
their
best
to
ensure
that
everyone
in
the
crowd
has
had
a
chance
to
hear
prior
to
taking
action.
Q
Thank
you
so
much
one
more
follow-up.
Sorry,
so
are
they
being
like
trained
on
this
is?
Are
we
just
like
saying
like
how
do
we
you
know
just
from
experience
it's
very
difficult
right,
so
I
just
you
know
even
myself
I
could
there
were
multiple
times
where,
where
orders
were
given,
but
you
didn't
hear
them
so
or
officers
are
you
know
they're
in
one
way
and
folks
are
going
another
way
right.
So
how
do
we,
you
know,
decide
if
they
say
hey
well,
we
said
it
three
times
right.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblywoman
gonzalez,
I
think
you're,
hitting
on
an
important
point
right.
We
sit
here
in
the
legislature
and
we
can
only
do
so
much
right,
like
put
things
into
law.
The
follow-up
is
often
left
to
those
who
we
direct
to
do
things.
You
know
I.
I
am
confident
that
law
enforcement
agencies
are
regularly
training
their
officers
on
what
the
state
of
the
law
is,
and
so
as
the
as
the
law
changes.
N
Q
K
N
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblyman
and
it's
good
to
see
you
as
well,
thanks
to
your
chair
from
the
30-second
special
session
that
is
already
in
the
law.
We
have
a
duty
to
intervene
here
in
nevada.
A
R
I
can
agree
with
a
lot
of
your
intent
of
your
bill,
but
it
also
means
I
have
several
questions
and
I
must
admit
some
of
them
already
been
brought
out.
I
do
think
you
have
some
very
vague
descriptions
in
here
that
need
to
be
clarified,
and
I
guess
the
first
one
I'd
like
to
ask
you
about
is
the
definition
of
use
of
force
that
you
won't
report
it,
and
let
me
just
give
you
a
couple
examples.
R
If
I
may,
I
know
there
are
agencies
that
if
an
officer
pulls
his
weapon
period,
he
must
make
out
a
use
of
force.
That
means,
if
he's
in
a
burglar,
in
a
in
progress
burglary,
going
into
a
building
on
not
knowing
if
a
subject
is
in
there
or
not
and
pulls
his
weapon,
he
must
make
a
use
of
force
report
so
that
that
would
be
my
first
question
on
your
section
three
on
reports
that
must
be
made.
R
What's
your
definition
of
use
of
force,
in
addition,
does
it
include
all
use
of
force,
just
substantiated
use
of
force,
because
I'll
be
honest
with
you,
I
had
a
complaint
made
against
me
when
a
person
was
trying
to
put
a
gun
to
my
head,
and
I
was
using
his
girlfriend
who
also
had
assaulted
me
as
a
weapon.
She
complained
that
I
I
used
an
arm
bar
and
was
trying
to
push
him
off
me
with
her.
She
complained
that
the
arm
bar
was
too
tight
and
that
I
hurt
her.
R
While
I
was
trying
to
get
my
head
blown
off,
it
was
unsubstantiated,
so
I'm
asking
you
describe
that
use
of
force
and
what
kinds
of
use
of
force
to
what
level
are
you
asking
for?
I
feel
that
is
an
unnecessary
report
being
made
and
skews
the
data,
which
I
then
also
have
a
question
for
ms
walsh
on.
Please.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblyman
o'neill.
What
we're
doing
is
tying
this
to
the
national
use
of
force,
data
collection
already
being
done
by
the
fbi,
and
so
I'm
asking
police
departments
to
collect
the
data
that's
already
outlined
in
the
the
fbi's
data
collection.
Also.
R
I
just
that's
what
I
wanted
to
hear
that
we
are
using
that
standard
and
we
are
not
subjecting
to
like.
I
was
saying
some
of
these
lower
or
more
strenuous
standards
that
are
in
place
by
some
agencies.
So
I
appreciate
that
very
very
much
and
chairman
may.
Can
I
ask
ms
walsh
to
come
up.
I
just
have
a
question
on
data.
R
N
Miss
wall
steps
up-
I
just
I
just
want
to
also
let
you
know
that
this
data
will
also
be
aggregate
and
anonymized,
and
so
there
will
no
be
no
ability
for
a
random
person
to
look
up
assemblyman
o'neill
and
the
one
time
that
officer
o'neill
may
have
used
force
and
how
often
he
particularly
uses
force
against
women
versus
men,
or
anything
like
that.
This
will
just
be
aggregate
data
that
we
can
hopefully
use
to
make
better
policy.
R
N
And
I
think
that's
an
important
point.
This
is
not
a
bill
that
is
designed
to
target
individual
officers
or
or
turn
them
into
bad
guys
as
they
try
and
do
their
job.
We
just
want
to
get
the
data,
so
we
know
what's
going
on.
R
R
Thank
you,
chair,
miss
walsh
in
your
data
that
you
were
reporting
on
use
of
force.
When
you
did
mapping,
did
you
ever
overlay
any
of
that
use
of
force
by
law
enforcement
on
areas
that
had
high
ucr
part
one
crimes
violent
crimes
and
did
any
of
them
coincide
together,
or
was
there
usually
a
use
of
forces
in
high
crime
areas
instead
of
other
areas
that
have
low
crime
rates.
E
Sure,
thank
you
for
the
question
through
the
chair
to
you
assemblyman.
I
specifically
did
not
work
with
this
data,
but
I
know
the
data
source
mapping.
Police
violence
has
found
that
the
level
of
crime,
specifically
violent
crime,
does
not
in
any
way
correlate
to
the
use
of
force
used
in
those
areas.
E
E
R
B
You
said
something
earlier
senator
harris
that
I
think
might
deserve
some
expansion,
and
that
is
the
state
of
the
law
is,
is
a
statement
that
you
made.
The
current
state
of
the
law
is
that
when
it
comes
to
protest
and
demonstration,
we
still
have
a
right
to
peacefully
assemble.
Is
that
correct.
N
Yes,
that
is
correct.
I
am
hoping
to
codify
that
and
that's
what
you
see
in
the
section
about
protest.
I
I
think
we
need
to
make
it
very
clear.
We
live
in
america,
where
each
person
has
the
right
to
protest
without
fear
of
being
harmed
by
police
officers.
B
Thank
you
for
that.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
think
a
lot
of
us
get
caught
up
and
we
kind
of
forget
sometimes
no
matter
what
the
topic
is,
that
we
have
a
right
to
peacefully
assemble
and
to
protest
and
bring
our
ills
to
the
public
and
what
we,
I
think,
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
just
make
sure
that
there's
understanding
on
both
sides
on
how
people
assemble
and
how,
when
it's
time
to
disperse
that,
is
done
in
a
civil
and
respectful
manner.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
questions.
B
I
think
that
people
have
addressed
a
lot
of
the
concerns
and
questions
that
I
had.
Thank
you
for
the
data
and
thank
you
for
you
know
not
being
subjective
but
really
bringing
quantitative
data.
I
think
that
we
really
need
to
have
that
in
order
to
move
forward,
and
I
just
appreciate
your
your
time
and
effort
on
this.
Thank
you.
C
C
Seven
one
so
that
it
has
to
do
with
the
the
protests
again,
the
only
the
the
section
that
I
have
concerned
with
is
where
we
have,
except
as
otherwise
providing
this
paragraph
at
least
three
orders,
and
you
said:
you're
gonna,
adjust
that
in
in
the
proposed
amendment
coming
up
that,
if,
if
possible
or
if
it's
imminent,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
three
orders
to
disperse
given
in
a
manner
that
each
order
may
be
heard
by
those
persons,
including
without
limitation,
issuing
the
order
from
multiple
locations
and
issuing
the
order
in
multiple
languages.
C
C
What
we
have
to
have
in
here
is,
if
possible,
if
possible,
issuing
the
order
in
multiple
languages,
because
if
it
becomes
a
non-peaceful
protest
and
there's
nobody
there
to
issue
the
language
according
to
this
statute,
you
know
the
law
enforcement
will
be
held
accountable
and
maybe
they
have
to
respond
quickly
because
it's
becoming
unpeaceful
and
now
there's
a
requirement
that
it
is
said
in
a
language,
and
so
I
I
think
we
need
in
there
if
possible,
and-
and
I
would
imagine
that,
depending
on
the
circumstance
many
times,
they'll
have
an
officer
that
has
that
language,
but
I
think
I
think
it
shouldn't
be
a
requirement.
N
I'm
not
sure
if
that
was
a
question,
but
thank
you
for
your
comment.
You
know
I
would
turn
you
then,
to
that
last
part
that
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
there
being
an
immediate
threat
of
physical
harm
or
death
or
some
immediate,
imminent
harm
to
property.
Maybe
we're
into
that
category.
L
N
That
point,
and
then
none
of
those
requirements
after
I
make
the
amendment
would
apply.
I'd
also
like
to
see
police
departments
ensuring
that
if
they
are
going
to
do
a
protest
in
a
certain
community
where
they
know
that
people
speak
a
a
different
language
that
they
bring
someone
with
them
to
police
in
in
in
that
area,
so
that,
if
something
like
this
happens,
they
are,
they
are
prepared.
N
So
I
I
think,
there's
a
a
couple
of
different
ways
to
address
that,
and
it
is
my
intention
to
allow
officers
to
act
immediately
when
it
is
necessary
to
do
so.
I.
C
Guess
that's
what
I
wanted
to
make
sure
and
probably
it'll
come
in
the
amendment.
So
thank
you.
A
N
Chair
yeager,
if
you,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'd
just
like
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
dif
additional
information
to
the
committee
about
how
the
the
use
of
force
database
would
work,
what
we
would
do
is
work,
I'm
working
with
a
central
repository
on
updating
their
system
that
would
allow
police
departments
to
just
directly
interface.
N
With
that
system.
Each
department
would
not
be
required
to
set
up
its
own
reporting
mechanism.
It
is
my
understanding,
after
discussions
with
the
central
repository
that
all
police
departments
in
nevada,
already
interface
with
them
for
the
ucr,
the
uniform
crime
reporting,
they
can
do
that
in
two
ways.
N
If
they're
already
kind
of
technologically
set
up
it's
an
automatic
thing,
if
they
are
not
already
kind
of
technologically
plugged
in
then
there
is
a
a
login
that
all
police
departments
can
use
and
they
can
enter
that
data
manually,
and
so
those
mechanisms
would
remain
in
place
and
would
be
expanded
to
allow
this.
This
uniform
data
collection
of
use
of
force.
A
O
Thank
you,
cherry
yeager,
I'd
like
to
thank
senator
harris
for
bringing
this
legislation
forward.
She
has
talked
about
proposed
amendments
in
section
three
and.
O
Tanya
brown
advocates
for
the
inmates
than
the
innocent
in
section
three
subsection
one.
I
don't
think
it
goes
far
enough.
O
It
says
here
on
or
before
july
1st
each
year,
and
so,
if
you
skip
down
tonight,
says
force
that
will
occurred
during
the
previous
calendar
years.
I'd
like
to
see
that
change
to
say
during
the
previous
calendar
years,
beginning
from
1970
forward
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
there
are
still
law
enforcement
officers,
still
officers
they've
become
district,
attorneys
judges,
so
on
and
so
forth.
O
Back
in
the
I
just
want
to
bring
up
a
brief
case
going
back
about
20
years
ago,
I
may
have
it
stated
incorrectly.
I
believe
it's
the
pavia
case.
It
dealt
with
a
reno
detective
and
a
lawsuit
in
which
was
filed
in
federal
court
judge.
The
honorable
judge,
edward
reed,
was
assigned
to
the
case
and
heard
it.
It
turns
out
that
there
was
a
situation
where
mr
pavilla,
I
guess,
was
having
an
incident
with
his
neighbors.
They
called
the
police,
the
police
showed
up.
O
He
answered
the
door,
he
didn't
want
to
talk
to
them.
He
shut
the
door,
they
opened
fought.
The
officers
opened
fired
killing
mr
pavilla
and
the
detective
assigned
to
the
case
ordered
the
person
in
the
evidence
room
to
destroy
the
evidence,
store
that
showed
that
the
bullet
holes
showed
that
it
basically
they
were
fired
from
the
outside.
Mr
pavilla
did
not
have
a
gun
did
not
throws
a
threat
to
him.
He
just
didn't
want
to
talk
to
them.
Ultimately,
the
family
settled
that
detective,
then
retired
from
the
reno
pd.
O
A
O
A
J
Good
morning,
chair
yeager
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
holly
wellborn
policy
director
for
the
aclu
of
nevada.
It's
wonderful
to
see
you
all
in
my
favorite
committee,
we're
testifying
in
strong
support
of
sb212.
J
This
has
been
quite
a
process
on
this
bill,
traumatizing
process.
To
be
quite
frank,
and
every
time
we
come
in,
we
talk
about
this.
We've
been
meeting
on
fridays
with
a
large
group
of
stakeholders,
and
you
know
we're
right.
It
doesn't
go
far
enough.
It
never
does
from
our
perspective,
but
here
we
are
and
we're
doing
the
best
we
can.
We
have
a
good
bill
before
you
that
does
some
things,
and
I
want
to
explain
that
to
you
and
I'll
focus
on
the
protest
section.
J
I
know
that
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
time.
The
protest
section.
What
it
is
meant
to
achieve
is
it
is
meant
to
codify
a
constitutional
disbursement
of
a
protest.
This
is
the
minimum
standard
that
has
to
be
met,
and
then
it's
meant
to
elevate
that
beyond
the
constitutional
floor
of
dispersing
that
protest.
J
J
J
How
do
we
clear
out
that,
in
a
safe
manner
that
allows
for
people
to
disperse
orderly,
then
the
bill
further
in
addressing
the
kinetic
energy
projectiles,
we
want
to
scale
back
the
use
of
those
those
are
dangerous.
Weapons
they're
often
called
non-lethal
weapons
when
really
they
can
harm
people.
They
put
me
in
the
emergency
room.
J
Let's
think
through
that
for
a
moment,
so
we
shouldn't
be
using
those
weapons
at
all
for
disbursement
purposes.
Those
should
be
used
only
when
a
law
enforcement
officer's
life
is
in
danger.
I
want
to
thank
rick
mccann
from
the
nevada
police
officers
union
for
working
on
language
that
captured
another
element
of
this
bill.
J
Just
because
an
unlawful
assembly
has
been
declared
does
not
mean
that
we
should
issu.
We
should
shoot
kinetic
energy
projectiles
at
people
who
are
remaining
in
an
area
frankly
unlawfully
at
that
point
it's
been
dispersed,
but
if
you're
not
engaged
in
an
activity
that
is
going
to
harm
a
peace
officer
or
anyone
in
the
vicinity,
you
cannot
use
those
projectiles
on
that
individual.
You
have
to
give
them
the
opportunity
to
disperse
you
have
to
focus
on
truly
violent
behavior
in
that
area.
So
that
is
what
those
sections
are
meant
to
achieve.
J
A
Thank
you,
miss
welborn.
I
appreciate
your
testimony
and
appreciate
you
sharing
your
personal
experience
as
well.
Are
there
any
additional
testifiers
in
support
here
in
carson
city?
I
don't
see
anyone
coming
forward.
I
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
on
the
zoom
bps.
Could
we
go
to
the
phone
lines
to
take
supportive
testimony
there?
Please.
K
K
T
Ann
marie
grant
a-n-n-e-m-a-r-I-e-g-r-a-n-t
I
support
sb
two
and
two
moving
forward,
because
there
is,
there
has
to
be
some
type
of
guidelines
in
place
if
we
aren't
prohibiting
the
use
of
restraint
chairs
in
their
entirety.
It
was
disheartening
to
see
the
original
language
prohibiting
the
use
of
restraint,
cheers
and
it's
entirely
removed,
though
I
understand
the
pressure
to
the
senator
from
police
policy,
police,
police,
police
and
lobbyists
police
lobbyists.
T
T
The
harbour
was
used
to
hogtie
my
brother,
which
every
single
page
of
emanuel
statesmen
have
used
to
hogtie
a
human
being
prohibiting
the
use
of
restraint
he
is,
would
have
been
vital
in
prover
serving
the
sanctity
of
life.
Countless
people
have
died
in
their
saints
here
at
jails
and
prisons.
These
torture
devices,
as
I
believe
them
to
be,
have
claimed
numerous
loved
ones.
Nicholas
farah
was
recently
asphyxiated
at
the
clark
county
detention
center.
He
died
within
two
minutes
of
deputies,
putting
him
in
the
chair.
T
If
the
language
mirrors
lvmpd
policy
I'll
remind
you
nick
died
under
those
policies,
texts
every
15
minutes
are
too
long.
Nick
was
killed
in
less
than
a
minute.
Respiratory
issues
aren't
going
to
wait.
15
minutes
if
they're
going
to
occur,
brain
damage
begins
within
15
minutes.
What
is
law,
enforcement's
definition
of
evaluate
a
visual
look
at
the
person
isn't
sufficient.
T
T
I
asked
what
is
law
enforcement's
definition
of
violent
or
life-threatening
that
language
is
vague.
I
do
have
to
support
the
bill
moving
forward,
though,
as
again,
something
is
better
than
nothing.
I
can't
speak
to
clark
county,
but
if
someone
dies
in
law
show
like
my
brother
associated,
there
will
be
no
investigation
honestly
until
graham
b
connor
and
tennessee
v
garner
the
whole
objectional.
Reasonable
thing
are
overturned
and
da's
prosecute
police
who
use
excessive
force,
murder
or
kill
due
to
negligence
negligence.
T
K
F
Good
morning,
chairman
yeager
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
this
is
john
piero
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office,
I'd
like
to
speak
in
support
of
senator
harris's
bill
we'd
like
to
thank
the
senator
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
trying
her
best
to
work
with
all
stakeholders
to
make
this
a
good
bill.
Change
is
definitely
needed,
and
this
is
a
small
measure
towards
change.
It
doesn't
go
as
far
as
it
could
be,
but
we
shouldn't
let
perfect
be
the
enemy
of
good.
F
K
F
F
K
F
My
name
is
eric
farah
last
name:
farah
f-a-r-a-h
brother
of
nicholas
farah,
who
was
killed
by
las
vegas
metro
police
in
the
restraint
chair
two
years
ago.
While
he
was
not
an
immediate
threat
to
himself
or
others,
he
was
immediately
put
into
the
restraint
chair
when
arriving
at
clark
county
detention
center
in
under
two
minutes.
Four
officers
killed
them
by
not
allowing
him
to
breathe
all
while
several
authors
and
medical
personnel
were
watching
and
within
six
feet
of
them.
He
died
by
positional
asphyxiation.
F
Just
like
george
floyd.
This
is
not
uncommon.
I
have
talked
to
numerous
other
inmates
who
have
lost
consciousness
while
also
in
the
chair
and
help
can
also
come
very
close
to
dying
as
well.
Clark.
County
detention
center
uses
this
as
a
daily
as
a
weapon
on
a
daily
basis.
This
is
a
huge
reason.
Many
other
cities
have
already
completely
banned
the
chair.
They
have
also
killed
multiple
people.
Not
only
is
this
a
huge
liability
for
the
state
and
city,
but
never
against
families
ever
have
to
go
through
the
additional
cause.
F
Deaths
caused
by
the
restraint
chair
in
nevada,
no
action
or
discipline
was
ever
taken
by
las
vegas
metro,
police
department
or
club
kennedy
detention
center
for
killing
my
brother.
They
also
worked
there
and
threatened
the
inmates
that
they'll
kill
you
in
the
restraint
term,
like
they
did
to
my
brother
for
the
record.
No
one
has
ever
reached
out
from
ccdc
to
our
family
to
help
update
the
policy.
Although
this
bill
is
not
is
not
enough,
it
is
a
great
start.
I
appreciate
senator
harris
for
including
us.
F
K
F
Good
morning,
chairman
yeager
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
I'm
eric
spratley
s-p-r-a-t-l-e-y,
the
executive
director
of
nevada,
sheriffs
and
chiefs
association,
and
I've
done
this
for
a
few
years,
but
I've
just
gone
back
and
forth.
I'm
I've
signed
in
support,
but
pursuant
to
committee
rules
there
were
some
things
in
the
bill
that
needed
to
be
changed,
but
I'm
here
in
support,
because
we've
actually
worked
very
hard
on
this
amended
version
and
as
the
meant
to
come,
and
we
appreciate
senator
harris
working
with
all
the
stakeholders
in
such
a
thoughtful
and
considerate
manner.
F
K
D
D
Despite
the
jury's
guilty
verdict
in
the
derek
chaven
trial
this
week,
there
is
a
long
way
to
go
for
justice
for
all
people
who
have
been
brutalized
or
killed
by
the
police
or
those
who
live
in
constant
fear.
They
could
be
next.
The
murder
of
nevadans,
like
jorge
gomez
and
mikhail,
illustrates
this
before
us.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
make
a
meaningful
step
forward
in
police
accountability.
We
urge
your
support
of
this
legislation.
Thank
you.
K
D
Good
morning,
terry
jager
and
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
kendra
burchie
b-e-r-t-s-c-h-y
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
We
appreciate
senator
harris
for
spearheading
this
crucial
bill.
These
are
important,
first
steps
to
start
to
ensure
accountability,
transparency
and
rebuilding
trust
in
our
police
and
our
police
agencies.
D
This
bill
builds
upon
the
important
measures
that
this
body
passed
during
the
special
session
and
promised
community
members
that
we
would
continue
to
work
on
this
bill
is
a
result
of
a
lot
of
discussion
and
having
negotiations.
Although
not
perfect,
we
do
support
this
bill.
It
is
not
a
complete
overhaul
of
the
system
that
is
needed,
but
provides
much
needed
change.
D
K
D
Chairman
yeager
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
callie
wilson,
c-a-l-l-I
w-I-l-s-s's
and
sam
ey
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
reno.
We
are
in
support
today
with
the
cleanup
amendment
the
bill
sponsor
referenced
in
her
presentation
earlier.
We
want
to
thank
senator
harris
for
inviting
us
to
the
working
group
on
this
legislation
and
ensuring
a
collaborative
effort
to
arrive
at
the
proposal
in
front
of
you
today.
We
appreciate
and
encourage
the
questions
and
conversation
this
committee
had
today
to
ensure
the
language
in
the
bill
is
clear
and
straightforward.
D
A
K
D
D
O
D
K
L
Greetings
good
morning
assembly,
men,
jaeger,
german,
yeager
and
vice
chair.
This
is
dora,
martinez,
d-o-r-a-m-I-r-t-I-n-e-z,
I'm
co,
I'm
I'm
at
home.
Now,
so
it's
quiet!
I
am
able
to
sell
my
name.
I
represent
the
nevada
disability
peer
action
coalition
and
we
are
in
support
of
this
bill.
Thank
you,
senator
harris.
L
I
don't
know,
I'm
sure
you
all
seen
the
video
last
week
regarding
the
woman
who
was
deaf.
We
just
want
to
include
people
with
disability,
be
mindful
of
their
needs
and
you
know
appropriate
practice
with
the
policy
that
you
will
be
putting
forward
with
this
bill.
Thank
you
so
much
and
I
will
be
remiss
if
I
don't
say
because
of
your
awesome
district
29,
assemblywoman
cohen.
I
am
so
active
today
because
of
the
website.
Nellis
is
really
accessible.
So
thank
you
and
have
a
great
weekend.
A
A
S
Thank
you
very
much
chair
year
for
the
record.
My
name
is
steve
gramis,
I'm
the
president
of
the
las
vegas
police,
protective
association,
I'm
also
a
commissioned
police
officer
of
the
las
vegas
special
palm
police
department.
I
want
to
thank
you,
chair
to
the
committee
and
actually
want
to
thank
senator
harris
for
having
some
conversation
before
this
hearing
with
me.
I
was
under
the
impression
I
would
have
a
little
bit
more
time,
so
I'm
going
to
try
and
speed
up
some
of
the
things
while
I'm
not
in
support
of
the
bill.
S
Through
this
collaboration,
ovmpd
undertook
massive
reform
to
its
use
of
force,
de-escalation
handling
of
the
mentally
ill
policy
as
well.
They
did
so
under
the
sheriff
doug
gillespie
at
the
time.
The
national
push
at
the
time
was
for
the
doj
to
look
into
problem
police
departments
and
place
them
under
consent.
Decrees
for
forced
change,
lvmpd
reached
out
on
their
own
to
the
doj
and
said
we
want
to
voluntarily
do
better.
We
want
to
work
with
the
doj
on
how
to
make
a
best
practice
policy
for
use
of
force.
This
was
under
president
barack
obama's
administration.
S
S
To
this
day,
they
continue
to
strive
for
excellence
in
policing
through
community
partnerships,
engagements
with
lawmakers
and
stakeholders,
as
we
seek
out
input
from
concerned
groups
like
the
aclu,
the
latin
chamber,
lgbtq
community
and
naacp,
to
name
a
few
law
enforcement
in
this
state
has
some
of
the
finest
leaders
in
law
enforcement.
I
believe
in
the
country
leaders
like
chief
andrus,
with
the
henderson
pd
chief
pamela
ojeda,
with
north
las
vegas
sheriff
lombardo
chief
molina
of
city
of
las
vegas,
chief
roper
of
washoe
county
and
chief
soto
of
reno,
to
name
a
few.
S
All
of
them
are
committed
to
excellence
in
the
field
of
law
enforcement.
To
me,
they
all
qualify
as
our
state
experts
for
policing
these
chiefs
and
sheriffs
are
either
elected
by
the
people
or
appointed
by
city
councils,
who
are
also
elected
by
the
people.
Both
chiefs
and
sheriffs
continually
preach
community
first
in
their
respective
departments.
S
I
believe
our
state
government
owes
it
to
these
professionals
to
allow
them
to
prove
that
they
can
make
all
the
necessary
changes
to
policy
without
enacting
specific
verbiage
in
law.
If
standardization
of
police
policy
on
use
of
force
is
the
goal,
then
this
bill
is
easily
simplified.
In
my
opinion,
while
I'm
not
very
well
versed
at
proposing
an
amendment
says,
it's
been
made
clear
to
me
this
morning
from
conversations
with
folks-
and
many
of
you
know
that
I'm
very
new
to
this
and
usually
there's
someone
else
sitting
in
my
place
up
here.
S
What
I
would
love
to
see
is
that
nevada
posts
require
all
police
departments
in
the
state
of
nevada
to
have
a
standardized
use
of
force
policy.
This
policy
would
be
collectively
discussed
by
the
leaders
of
the
major
law
enforcement
agencies
from
the
state.
The
departments
will
report
their
newest
policy
to
nevada
post
before
the
82nd
special
recession
of
the
legislature.
S
Nevada
post
would
present
the
standardized
use
of
force
policy
to
the
legislative
body
at
that
legislative
time.
As
time
goes
by
a
new
methodology
for
policing
comes
forward.
These
leaders
and
professionals
in
the
field
of
law
enforcement
will
continue
to
get
together
to
update
and
report
the
new
practices
to
the
nevada
post
commission.
This
would
include
the
language
related
to
section
1
and
2
related
to
de-escalation
and
use
of
force
on
certain
subjects.
S
S
One
of
our
very
own
assemblyman
tom
roberts
was
even
part
of
the
process
to
changing
this
policy
back
when
he
was
on
our
department,
I
would
hold
our
policy
up
against
any
in
the
united
states.
If
this
bill
is
about
best
practice,
we
have
the
model.
Senator
harris
has
worked
with
lvmpd
and
has
instituted
almost
every
aspect
of
this
bill
to
match
our
policy
as
she
has
made
mention
today,
but
I
would
ask
that
we
leave
policy
for
police
departments
to
the
experts
which
I
have
mentioned.
S
Those
leaders
deserve
the
respect
as
professionals
to
be
able
to
get
this
right
through
collaboration
amongst
the
leaders
in
law
enforcement
and
with
oversight
from
nevada
post.
Who
would
then
report
back
to
this
body?
I
believe
senator
harris's
hope
for
a
best
in
practice.
Statewide
policy
on
use
of
force
will
be
and
can
be
achieved.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
graham,
so
I
gave
you
a
little
bit
more
time
there,
because
I
know
we
had
a
lot
of
support
tests
and
I
didn't
don't
go
quite
yet.
I
just
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time,
but
I
wanted
to
give
members
and
we
could
probably
take
a
couple
questions.
If
anyone
has
one
for
mr
grammus
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong,
please
go
ahead.
B
S
B
S
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong.
I
believe
my
position
is
is
very
similar
to
what
it's
stating
my
position
is
that
we
let
the
leaders
of
law
enforcement
report
to
post
and
post
implements
these
plans
in
this
policy
by
instituting
things
into
law.
Everything
has
a
potential
to
start
leading
down
the
the
road
of
penalties
and
enforcement,
and
potentially
people
going
to
jail
for
violating,
maybe
unknowingly
laws.
S
S
You'd
be
naive
to
say
that
there's
not,
but
I
think
our
our
group
here
has
done
a
good
job
and
I
think
they
can
continue
to
do
a
good
job
and
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
codified
and
law
steps
on
de-escalation
and
things
like
that.
I
think
it's
best
left
to
them
to
adopt
the
policy
post
to
follow
through
on
the
policy
and
then
bring
it
to
you
all.
Ma'am.
B
So
it's
okay
for
citizens
who
are
not
don't
have
the
benefit
of
all
the
money
that
the
police
department
has
to
do
internal
training
to
be
held
accountable
when
they
don't
know
a
law
and
don't
follow
that
law
to
the
letter
and
there
are
penalties
for
them,
but
not
okay.
B
For
there
to
be
the
possibility
of
a
penalty
for
non-compliance
to
police
departments
that
get
millions
of
dollars
each
year
from
our
tax
dollars
for
training
not
to
have
any
possibility
of
being
held
accountable
for
stuff
that
they
should
know
how
to
do.
I'm
I'm
kind
of
struggling
with
the
the
situation
here.
So
please
help
me.
S
Sure
assemblywoman
armstrong
again,
thank
you,
so
our
officers
are
out
there
making
split-second
life
or
death
decisions.
Sometimes
sometimes
it's
not
life
or
death.
Sometimes
it
does
involve
physical
force
they're
out
there
trying
to
enforce
the
laws
as
set
forth
by
the
legislature,
pretty
much
when
they,
when
there's
a
a
law
of
some
sort
that
when
we
look
at
when
we
look
at
de-escalation
techniques,
there's
a
wide
variety
of
ranges.
S
Unfortunately,
when
you
can't
capture
everything
as
senator
harris-
and
I
talked
prior
to
the
hearing
about
a
certain
scenario-
was
okay-
maybe
we
don't
think
of
everything
and-
and
I
think
that's
what
is
important-
to
have
the
leaders
of
the
law
enforcement
agencies
to
sit
down
as
the
heads
and
talk
about
what
policies
that
they
can
push
out,
train
effectively
train
and
we
are
always
a
proponent
for
more
training
which
I'm
not
sure
we
get
enough
of
actual
hands-on
training.
But
that
they
can
push
that
out
and
say
this
is
what
we
need
to
do.
S
There's
no
ambiguity,
putting
putting
things
into
the
law
that
can
be
vague,
can
start
a
slippery
slope
for
folks.
I
don't
know
of
any
laws
that
are
vague
as
far
as
the
citizenry,
not
in
the
course
of
their
scope
and
dude
of
their
course
and
scope
of
duties
for
working
if
they're
out
there
crimes
have
intent
that
you
have
to
have
intent
to
commit
crimes.
S
Again,
we
talked
prior
to
this
hearing
about
the
discharging
of
kinetic
energy
to
the
back
to
the
spine,
well
center
mass
of
what
we're
intending
to
to
fire
any
projectile
is
what
we're
trained
to
do
and
part
of
that
is
the
spine.
If
the
back
is
the
target,
and
so
now
we
have
to
look
at
potentially
augmenting
our
shot
of
a
bean
bag
round
or
a
projectile
to
aim
somewhere
else,
and
now
we're
responsible
for
that
round,
and
that's
why
we
take
that
center.
Mass
theory
is
to
make
it
an
easier
position
for
us.
S
So
I
know
I'm
getting
a
little
off
topic,
but
our
cops
are
always
accountable.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
can
happen
in
an
incident
that,
whether
knowingly
or
unknowingly,
I
just
would
not
want
to
see
our
officers
getting
prosecuted
for
doing
things
that
maybe
they
are
unknowingly
or
vague.
In
what
they're
doing,
I
think
the
policies
that
we
train
on
are
exactly
what
they
should
be
getting.
A
A
K
K
P
Hello,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
chuck
callaway
c-a-l-l-a-w-a-y
representing
the
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department.
Unfortunately,
I'm
here
opposed
to
sb
212.
Today,
due
to
the
rules
of
committee,
we
did
support
the
bill
in
the
senate,
but
unfortunately,
as
senator
harris
described,
sometimes
when
the
draft
language
comes
out,
it
does
not
accurately
reflect
all
discussions
that
were
had
in
our
stakeholder
group
meetings.
P
I
do
want
to
thank
senator
harris.
She
has
been
the
most
engaged
law
enforce
legislator
this
session,
with
law
enforcement.
To
my,
in
my
belief,
I've
had
a
number
numerous
conversations
with
her
going
back
to
before
the
session
even
started.
As
has
been
stated,
much
of
what's
in
this
bill
reflects
metro's
policy,
but
very
quickly.
P
99
percent
of
those
protests
are
peaceful
and
no
problems
occur
and
people
are
law
abiding,
but
we
did
have
a
couple
of
protests
last
year
where
violence
occurred
and
property
damage
occurred,
officers
were
injured
and
on
line
32
and
33,
as
was
stated,
it's
just
not
practical
in
a
deadly
force
situation
to
have
to
give
a
dispersal
order.
The
word
the
word
death
should
be
removed
from
that
section
of
the
bill.
P
We
do
give
dispersal
orders
on
our
agency
in
english
and
in
spanish
when
feasible
and
when
it
appears
that
the
crowd
may
be
spanish-speaking,
but
when
a
protest
has
turned
violent
and
a
dispersal
order
needs
to
be
given.
There's
a
lot
of
confusion
and
giving
dispersal
orders
in
multiple
languages
can
add
to
that
confusion
so
that
I
need,
I
believe
that
needs
to
be
narrowed
down
to
english
and
spanish.
P
A
K
F
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
troyce
cromie
t-r-o-y-c-e-k-r-u
m-m-e,
I'm
the
vice
chairman
of
the
las
vegas
police
managers
and
supervisors
association.
I
apologize
for
not
being
there
in
person,
unfortunately,
I'm
currently
sitting
in
a
doctor's
office.
So
I
will
keep
my
comments
brief.
We
are
in
opposition
for
committee
rules.
F
A
K
F
Chairman
yeager
vice
chairwin
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
my
name
is
corey
sulforino,
c-o-r-e-y
s's
and
sam
o-l
epson,
frank
er.
I
know
and
I
represent
the
washoe
county
sheriff's
office.
I
want
to
first
thank
senator
harris
for
her
collaboration
and
active
engagement
in
these
powerful
topics.
We're
trying
to
address
in
our
state
senator
harris
is
passionate
about
criminal
justice
reform
and
has
actively
engaged
in
conversations
for
months
to
learn
more
on
the
subject
matter
and
make
educated
decisions
on
our
industry's
best
practices.
F
Pursuant
to
rules
of
committee,
we
are
in
opposition
to
sb
212.
Today.
I
do
want
to
note
for
the
record.
We
were
in
support
on
the
senate
side
and
believe
this
to
be
a
drafting
error
in
the
language.
As
several
members
have
addressed
and
discussed
this
morning,
section
4.,
subsection,
7,
b3,
page
8
lines
7
through
9
present
a
complicated
requirement
in
deadly
force
situations.
An
opportunity
to
give
a
dispersal
order
may
not
be
practical
nor
reasonable.
Given
the
circumstances.
F
Just
a
few
examples,
hostage
situations
active
shooters,
aggressive
actions
which
will
result
in
substantial
bodily
harm
or
death.
If
immediate
action
isn't
taken,
we
believe
that
the
removal
of
this
language
will
place
us
back
in
a
position
of
support.
We
appreciate
senator
harris's,
active
collaboration
with
law
enforcement
and
a
willingness
to
understand
the
complexities
of
the
law
enforcement
function
and
use
of
force
scenarios.
F
F
We
hope
to
be
able
to
move
back
to
a
position
of
support
as
we
work
hand-in-hand
with
senator
harris
to
craft
what
we
believe
to
be
solid
policy
and
previous
to
my
comments
here
today,
I
had
the
honor
to
present
before
this
very
committee
back
in
february
and
present
our
use
of
force,
data
and
statistics
that
are
available
both
on
our
website
and
in
our
end-of-year
report,
the
state
of
the
sheriff's
office
for
the
washoe
county
sheriff's
office.
I
encourage
all
legislators
or
community
members
comments
about
that.
F
A
A
A
K
K
D
D
Just
wanting
to
extend
my
thanks
and
appreciation
for
everyone's
hard
work
on
this
particular
bill
and
again
just
supporting
in
neutral
for
sb212.
Thank
you.
A
N
N
I
am
more
than
open
to
bringing
every
suggestion
that
each
of
you
or
anyone
else
has
to
the
full
group,
but
I
have
committed
to
them,
and
I
will
remain
true
to
my
word,
that
this
is
a
collaborative
process
and
and
we
all
need
to
get
to
a
place
where
everyone
agrees
or
the
amendments
will
will
not
be
taken,
and
I
will
not
be
proposing
them
on
my
behalf.
That
is
not
to
say
that
the
bill
is
perfect
and
that
you
all
may
not
have
some
suggestions.
N
I
just
want
to
reiter
reiterate
my
commitment
to
the
people
that
I've
been
working
with
for
months
and
months
that
we're
going
to
lock
this
language
down
as
as
a
group.
So,
thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time
and
consideration
and
I
will
see
you
all
again
very
soon.
A
Thank
you
senator
harrison.
You
know
I
want
to
say
thank
you
as
well.
I
know
we
had
some
discussions
seems
like
years
ago,
but
it
was
during
the
the
special
session
about
use
of
force,
and
you
know,
I
think
what
we
agreed
on
at
that
time
was
that
the
special
session-
probably
wasn't
the
best
place,
to
try
to
tackle
this
this
kind
of
issue.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
doing
this
really
hard
work
with
a
lot
of
interested
parties
over
the
last
several
months
since
the
special
session.
A
We
certainly
appreciate
it
and
it
was
good
to
see
you
here
this
morning,
an
assembly
judiciary.
I'm
sure
we'll
see
you
again
soon
and
please
have
a
great
weekend
so
I'll
close
the
hearing
committee
on
senate
bill
212
that
takes
us
to
our
last
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
I'm
sorry,
miss
walsh.
Did
you
wanna?
A
E
Emily
walsh,
for
the
record,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
based
on
the
statistic
that
the
caller
mentioned.
They
are
correct
in
that
the
las
vegas
metro
and
clark
county
sheriff's
department
are
combined.
What
I
meant
to
say
is
that
the
nevada
highway
patrol
officer-involved
deaths
that
occurred
in
las
vegas
are
not
included
in
those
numbers.
So
as
it
stands,
there
were
70
officer-involved
deaths
that
are
attributed
to
the
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department.
E
A
You
miss
walsh,
appreciate
that
sometimes,
with
only
one
table
at
the
chair
forget
that
we
have
multiple
presenters
so
now
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
212
and
again
that
takes
us
to
our
last
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
public
comment.
By
way
of
a
reminder,
we
resort
up
to
30
minutes
at
the
end
of
each
meeting
for
public
comment,
public
commenters
will
have
up
to
two
minutes
to
provide
public
comment.
Public
comment
is
a
time
to
raise
matters
of
a
general
nature
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
A
A
K
K
D
You
know
I
was
at
the
jorge
gomez's
one
and
I
heard
the
gunshots
go
off
and
it
reminded
me
of
the
time
my
son's
getting
shots
went
off
and
I
don't
want
nobody
else
to
hear
gunshots
go
off
because
his
child
had
his
tablet
in
their
hand,
and
he
was
mistaken
for
a
gun
or
anything
else.
You
know,
so
I
believe
that
the
employees
really
need
to
be
retrained
at
a
lot
of
things
to
deal
with
mental
health
issues
and
and
people
who
are
on
drugs
and
stuff.
D
A
K
T
Anne
marie
grant
a-n-n-e-m-a-r-I-e-g-r-a-n-t
sister
thomas
party
murdered
by
reno
police
and
marshall
county
sheriff's
office,
hog,
tied
and
asphyxiated
to
death
during
the
mental
health
crisis.
Thank
you
eric
sarah
tina
and
carol
for
sharing
your
loved
one
truth
and
advocating
for
change
and
hope.
Nobody
else
will
lose
their
lives
to
police.
We
families
are
stronger
together.
I
am
empowered
by
our
collective
efforts
as
las
vegas
las
vegas
families,
united
for
justice.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
T
Assemblywoman
armstrong
for
your
questions
regarding
the
last
bill
data
I'd
like
to
bring
up
washoe
county
dash,
what
they
just
recently
put
up,
and
they
falsely
stated
that
there
were
zero
homicides
at
washoe
county
jail
since
the
year
2000..
I
hope
you
all
immediately
recognize
that
is
false.
Data
from
warsaw
sheriff
darren
balaam.
I
pray
after
hearing
me
every
day
you
realize
that
is
simply
false
and
I
believe
intentional
propaganda
by
sheriff
balaam.
It
took
the
reno
gazette
calling
them
out
on
it
for
the
dashboard
to
be
changed.
T
He
listed
the
homicides
on
the
first
dashboard
as
excited
delirium
and
zero
homicides.
Nico
smith
was
associated
by
sergeant
corey
salsarino.
By
the
way,
there
should
be
a
database
to
review
complaints
made
against
any
officer
in
nevada.
Jorge
gomez
was
simply
heading
home
to
his
vehicle.
After
a
dispersal
order
on
june
1st,
an
officer
had
been
shot
and
somebody
was
going
to
be
held
accountable
that
night.
The
hysteria
created
by
the
officer
shooting
that
night,
a
bunch
amongst
lvmpd,
is
typical.
T
T
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
last
year,
while
the
families
of
those
killed
by
our
pbs
pd
and
washoe
county
sheriff's
office
for
honoring,
our
loved
ones
during
reno
cop
watch
annual
event
supporting
families,
reno
police
literally
stood
across
the
street
laughing,
as
mothers
were
on
the
mic
pouring
their
heart
out
crying
to
the
community
wanting
justice,
just
like
george
floyd's
family,
got
charges
and
jail
time.
What
does
that
say
about
reno
police?
Please
support
bills
that
promote
transparency
and
accountability.
T
A
Thank
you
again,
bps
for
helping
us
to
manage
the
phones
today
and
the
broadcast
as
well.
We
appreciate
you
I'll,
close
public
comment,
anything
else
from
committee
members
this
morning
before
we
talk
about
next
week.
Okay,
I
don't
see
anything.
I
want
to
say
how
nice
it
was
to
have
a
as
full
of
a
room
as
we're
allowed
to
have
at
this
point.
So
thank
thank
you
to
those
in
the
audience
who
stuck
with
us
through
a
pretty
long
morning
and
committee.
A
We
don't,
we
don't
have
agendas
out
yet,
but
the
monday
agenda's
out
that's
a
cancelled
meeting
the
tuesday
agenda's
not
yet
out,
but
it'll,
be
a
nine
o'clock
start
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
So
everyone
please
get
some
rest
this
weekend
as
we
get
ready
for
the
last
30
days
or
so
of
the
session.
So
have
a
great
weekend.
Everyone,
and
with
this
behind
us,
the
meeting,
is.