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A
C
E
F
A
Yeager
here
please
mark
assemblywoman,
krasner
absent
excuse
this
morning.
Everyone
else
is
present.
That
means
we
do
have
a
quorum
good
morning,
everyone
and
welcome
to
day
61
of
the
nevada
legislature,
which
means
we
just
have
59
more
days
until
we
perhaps
get
supervised
release
from
the
building.
So
welcome
to
committee
members.
Welcome
to
the
guests
joining
us
on
the
zoom.
We
have
a
number
of
you
this
morning
and
welcome
to
those
who
may
be
watching
on
the
internet
either
at
the
legislature's
website
or
on
our
youtube
channel
before
we
get
started
on
today's
agenda.
A
Just
a
few
quick
housekeeping
matters
for
the
guests
who
are
joining
us
on
the
zoom.
If
you
could
please
mute
yourself
unless
you're
speaking,
that
will
help
with
some
of
the
audio
feedback
that
we
sometimes
get.
If
you
are
presenting
or
answering
questions
today,
if
you
could,
please
remember
to
state
your
name
each
time
before
you
speak,
that
will
help
our
committee.
Secretaries
prepare
accurate
minutes.
We
do
expect
courtesy
and
respect
in
our
interactions
with
one
another.
We
don't
always
agree
on
policy.
A
That's
perfectly
fine,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
being
respectful
of
one
another.
The
legislative
process
and,
most
importantly,
are
very
hard-working
staff.
Finally,
many
members
are
using
multiple
devices
to
access
this
virtual
meeting,
so
please
don't
see
it
as
a
sign
of
disrespect
or
inattention
if
members
appear
to
be
looking
away
during
certain
times
at
today's
meeting
with
that
behind
us
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
agenda
committee,
as
you
can
see,
there's
just
one
bill
on
the
agenda
this
morning
and
I
will
be
helping
to
present
that
bill.
G
Thank
you,
terry
yeager.
At
this
time
I
will
open
the
bill
hearing
on
assembly
bill
341.
It
does
provide
for
the
licensure
and
regulation
of
cannabis
consumption
lounges,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
this
over
to
our
chair
to
begin
when
ready.
A
Good
morning,
madam
vice
chair
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
thankful
today
is
friday
for
the
record.
I
am
steve
yeager
representing
assembly
district
9
in
southwest
las
vegas.
It
is
an
honor
to
present
assembly
bill
341
to
you
this
morning.
I
intend
to
make
fairly
brief
introductory
remarks
and
then
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
some
other
folks.
We
have
on
the
zoom
with
us.
A
First
will
be
scott
rutledge
to
take
you
through
the
bill
and
the
amendment
which
you
can
find
on
nellis
and
then
we're
going
to
hear
from
tina,
ulman,
nicole
buffon,
christina
thomas
john
hudak
and
chris
sage
before
taking
any
questions.
I
know
that
sounds
like
a
lot
of
people
to
present,
but
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
get
this
done
in
about
a
half
an
hour
before
we
get
to
questions
and
as
you
might
expect,
there
are
many
many
people
who
would
like
to
testify
on
this
bill.
A
So
I'm
sure
we'll
hear
a
good
amount
of
testimony.
This
morning,
assembly
bill
341
takes
on
the
somewhat
vexing
issue
of
public
consumption
of
cannabis.
Ever
since
nevada
voters
approved
adult
youth
cannabis,
we
have
struggled
with
the
idea
of
public
consumption.
The
voter
initiative
expressly
outlawed
public
consumption.
A
That
might
have
made
sense,
then,
but
it
sure
doesn't
now
more
than
40
million
tourists
visit
las
vegas
every
year,
and
there
are
certainly
many
more
that
visit
other
parts
of
the
state.
Many
of
those
are
interested
in
trying
cannabis,
but
there's
nowhere.
They
can
legally
do
so.
They
can't
bring
it
into
their
hotel
rooms
they
can't
consume
outside.
A
As
a
result,
many
of
them
end
up
breaking
the
law
unless
they
happen
to
know
somebody
who
lives
in
nevada
and
can
provide
a
space
for
consumption,
but
it's
not
just
the
tourists
there
are
locals
who
have
nowhere
to
consume
as
well.
Perhaps
they
rent
and
they
are
forbidden
from
consuming
by
their
landlord.
A
Perhaps
they
live
in
subsidized
housing,
where
federal
restrictions
would
apply,
or
perhaps
they
just
don't
want
to
consume
in
their
homes.
For
personal
reasons,
where
can
they
go
nowhere?
Assembly
bill
341
remedies
this
problem
by
providing
for
public
consumption
at
regulated
venues,
whether
associated
with
an
existing
dispensary
or
whether
a
standalone
establishment?
A
I
think
it
would
even
be
fair
to
say
that
ab341,
ultimately
decriminalizes
consumption
by
finally
providing
us
with
a
public
policy
that
allows
for
it
ab341
also
is
an
economic
development
measure
in
that
it
will
result
in
additional
revenue
for
the
state,
while
also
providing
new
and
exciting
business
opportunities,
especially
for
those
who
have
been
shut
out
of
the
industry.
To
this
point,
including
those
who
have
been
adversely
impacted
by
the
war
on
drugs.
A
A
Additionally
you're
going
to
hear
about
the
various
provisions
that
will
go
into
the
proper
regulation
of
these
businesses
from
safe
consumption
protocols,
employee
training,
to
mitigate
the
risks
associated
with
over
consumption
and
how
these
businesses
can
provide
an
opportunity
to
educate
and
inform
novice
cannabis.
Consumers
you're
also
going
to
hear
some
exciting
testimony
this
morning
about
what
might
be
in
store
for
nevada
in
this
area.
The
possibilities
are
really
limitless,
which
speaks
to
the
intent
of
this
legislation.
A
A
The
time
is
now-
and
I
hope,
you'll
support
assembly
bill
341,
madam
vice
chair
at
this
time.
I'd
like
to
hand
it
over
to
mr
scott
rutledge,
who
has
been
working
furiously
on
this
legislation
for
a
very
long
time.
With
your
permission,
madam
vice
chair,
he'll,
take
you
through
the
bill
and
the
amendment
and
then
we'll
have
some
additional
speakers
after
him.
G
B
Good
morning,
madam
vice
chair
committee
members,
my
name
is
scott
rutledge,
that's
s-c-o-t,
r-u-t
l-e-d-g-e.
Yes,
you
will
notice
the
absence
of
a
superfluous
t
in
my
first
name.
Thank
my
mother
for
that.
I
wanted
to
take
you
through
the
bill
this
morning
and
and
then
walk
you
through
the
amendment.
As
chairman
yeager
noted.
I'd
also
like
to
note
that
this
is
still
a
work
in
progress.
There
are
a
couple
amendments
that
we
have
yet
to
finalize
we're
still
working
with
a
couple
of
different
agencies
and
organizations.
B
So
we
do
plan
on
having
some
additional
amendments,
but
I
think
what
we'll
present
today
is
a
good
start
as
far
as
the
bill
itself,
essentially,
as
chairman
yeager
noted,
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
is
is
creating
safe,
well-regulated
places
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
consume
cannabis.
B
Currently
I
don't
think
anybody
has
is
a
stranger
to
the
fact
that
you
can
smell
that
smell
just
about
anywhere
you're
traveling
in
in
southern
nevada,
for
sure,
and
probably
also
up
in
different
parts
of
northern
nevada.
B
Existing
law
prohibits
a
person
from
engaging
in
the
business
of
an
adult
use
cannabis
establishment
unless
they
have
been
issued.
An
adult
use,
cannabis
establishment
license
section
7
addresses
that
section.
10
prohibits
the
board
from
issuing
a
don't
use
cannabis,
establishment
license
or
a
retail
cannabis
consumption
lounge
unless
that
applicant
holds
an
adult
use
cannabis,
a
stab
cannabis
establishment
license
or
an
adult
use,
cannabis,
retail
store
and
the
location
of
the
proposed
retail
cannabis
consumption.
B
Lounge
is
attached
or
immediately
adjacent
to
that
retail
store
sections,
10
and
14
of
the
bill
exempt
a
proposed
retail
cannabis
lounge
from
certain
restrictions
relating
to
the
location
of
an
adult
use
cannabis.
Establishment
protection
bill
requires
the
board
to
adopt
regulations,
establishing
criteria
to
determine
whether
an
applicant
for
the
issuance
or
renewable
use,
cannabis
establishment
license
or
a
retail
cannabis
lounge
or
an
independent
cannabis.
B
Section
12
requires
the
board
to
adopt
regulations,
establishing
criteria
of
merit
and
scoring
guidelines
to
be
used
in
evaluating
applications
for
such
licenses
and
requires
the
board
to
give
an
additional
positive
weight
to
social
equity
applicants.
Applications
section
17
of
the
bill
requires
the
board
to
establish
fees
for
the
issuance
and
renewal
of
such
licenses,
as
well
as
reduce
fees
for
social
equity
applicants.
B
Section
16
of
the
bill
makes
a
conforming
change
to
reflect
the
addition
of
the
requirements
of
the
section
existing
law
also
prohibits
the
board
from
issuing
more
than
a
certain
number
of
adult
use.
Cannabis.
Establishment
licenses,
section
15,
which
actually
we'll
go
through
in
a
minute,
was,
was
amended
out
of
the
bill
and
we'll
discuss
why
sections
22
and
24
this
bill
set
forth
certain
requirements
and
restrictions
relating
to
the
operation
section
23
authorizes
a
lounge
to
engage
in
certain
activities.
B
Section
20
requires
the
board
to
adopt
regulations
concerning
these
lounges
section
25
authorizes
a
lounge
to
obtain
cannabis
or
cannabis
products
from
an
adult
use,
cannabis,
retail
store
section
25
also
authorizes
a
retail
cannabis
consumption
lounge
to
prepare
and
sell
ready
to
consume
cannabis
products.
You'll
be
hearing
a
little
bit
about
that
from
one
of
our
presenters.
Mr
chris
sage,
section
four
of
the
bill
defines
ready
to
consume
cannabis
product,
meaning
an
adult
use
cannabis,
edible
product
that
is
presented
as
a
food
stuff
or
bridget
or
brethridge,
and
is
intended
for
immediate
consumption.
B
Section
28
requires
the
board
to
adopt
regulations,
establishing
requirements
for
the
preparation
and
sell
of
those
products.
Sections
19
and
30
of
the
bill
provides
certain
requirements
for
cannabis
products
established
under
existing
law
that
do
not
apply
to
ready
to
consume
cannabis.
Products
addresses
things
like
labeling,
etc.
B
B
Section
34
applies
to
the
excise
tax
retail
sales
of
cannabis.
Section
31
and
33
makes
conforming
changes
to
reflect
the
imposition
of
such
attacks.
18
and
19
revise
provisions
of
existing
law
prohibiting
the
consumption
of
cannabis
and
cannabis
products
in
the
public
place
or
in
a
cannabis
establishment
for
the
purpose
of
authorizing
a
person
to
engage
in
such
activities
in
a
lounge
section,
36
exempts
the
cannabis
lounge,
whose
activities
are
confined
to
those
authorized
under
the
provision
of
this
bill
from
the
application
of
this
provision,
definitions
are,
of
course,
included.
B
We
were
ultimately
trying
to
provide
for
with
these
two
licensed
types,
we're
initially
we're
calling
them
retail
attached.
Permissive
use
and
permissive
use
for
the
independent
lounge
essentially
meant
that
that
that
business
owner
would
have
some
flexibility
in
the
type
of
business
they
wanted
to
open.
B
We
all
know
that
there's
a
cost
associated
with
the
inventory,
controls,
etc
that
go
along
with
with
selling
cannabis
the
pls
systems
related
to
that
the
other
security
measures,
and
so
their
wanted
flexibility
for
somebody
who
was
entering
into
this
industry
wanting
to
open
up
an
independent
cannabis
lounge,
but
may
not
want
to
start
with
selling
cannabis,
so
that
would
also
allow
for,
in
this
bill,
the
delivery
of
cannabis
products
to
an
independent
lounge
and
directing
the
ccb
to
provide
regulations.
B
Therefore,
the
same
goes
for
allowing
your
customers
to
bring
cannabis
in
with
them
and
developing
regulations
around
that.
In
in
the
statute,
we
do
clearly
explain
that
those
products
have
to
come
from
a
licensed
retail
store
and
a
sealed
package,
so
again,
flexibility
for
that
independent
lounge
concept.
B
I'd
like
to
walk
you
through
some
amendments
to
the
bill
right
now
that
we
have
proposed,
and
then,
if
there
are
specific
questions
related
to
the
amendments
and
whatnot
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
them
once
I'm
done
or
we
can
wait
for
the
other
presentations
and
then
perhaps
you
could
ask
the
questions
of
the
group.
G
I
think
we'll
we'll
just
finish
up
with
the
other
presenters
that
are
on
in
the
queue
and
then
we'll
take
questions
at
the
end.
B
B
We're
hoping
that
the
the
next
amendment
will
will
will
finalize
that
process,
but
as
as
stated
again
we're
still
in
the
midst
of
trying
to
get
some
clarification
around
a
few
items.
Now.
That
being
said,
we
do
have
some
proposed
amendment
language
section.
B
Nine
we
wanted
to
in
in
this
section
explain
that
a
social
equity
applicant
would
only
apply
to
an
independent
cannabis
lounge,
not
a
retail
cannabis
consumption
lounge,
and
we
also
based
on
some
input
from
a
another
organization
working
on
another
piece
of
legislation
that
addresses
social
equity
applicants,
to
remove
the
definition,
the
part
of
the
definition
that
says,
or
on
the
geographic
area
in
which
the
the
applicant
will
operate.
We
really
want
social
equity
applicants
to
be
about
the
individuals
applying
and
not
focusing
on
a
geographic
area.
B
Of
course,
the
ccb
will
go
through
the
promulgation
of
regulations
on
this,
and
we
may
see
some
more
texture
to
social
equity
applicants,
but
for
the
statute.
This
is
how
we'd,
like
it
stated,
section
10.
B
Basically,
we
wanted
to
remove
the
the
last
part
of
subsection
two
and
that
I
think
basically
has
to
do
with
with
part
of
the
the
zoning
discussion
section.
Eleven.
B
B
So,
in
addition
to
adding
the
conforming
change
in
three
subsection
b,
that
the
add
additional
positive
weight
to
a
social
equity
applicant
would
apply
to
an
independent
cannabis
consumption
lounge
license
in
section
four.
We
also
wanted
to
state
that
the
board
shall
not
issue
more
than
one
cannabis.
Consumption
lounge
license
in
the
same
county
to
an
ownership
group
individual
or
an
individual,
with
an
ownership
stake
in
a
group,
and
so
that
essentially
means
that,
if
you're
a
retailer
that
would
like
to
open
up
a
lounge,
you
get
to
open
up
one
lounge.
B
Even
if
you
have
five
locations,
this
could
of
course
be
changed
in
the
future.
But
as
far
as
launching
the
program,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
nobody
had
a
overarching,
competitive
advantage
and
being
able
to
open
up
more
than
one
venue.
The
same
would
be
true
for
independent
lounge
owners.
We
did
not
want
to
see
someone
try
to
come
into
this
marketplace
and
open
up
a
chain
of
consumption
lounges.
B
That
being
said,
we
struck
section
15
from
the
bill,
because
that
also
related
to
anti-monopolistic
practices.
We
think
that
section,
subsection
4
of
section
12
better,
gets
to
that
point.
In
section
20,
subsection
9.
We
just
wanted
to
include
some
more
clarifying
language
enabling
language
on
the
the
board,
setting
forth
rules
on
procedures
and
requirements
for
employee
training,
on
consumption
of
single-use
cannabis
and
ready-to-consume
cannabis
products
which
then
conforms
with
section
22..
B
We
wanted
to
be
sure
that
inside
these
consumption
lounges
that,
as
opposed
to
it
being
a
free-for-all
for
the
type
of
cannabis
that
could
be
purchased,
that
we
work
with
the
board
to
define
single-use
cannabis
product
so
that
we
can
limit
the
types
of
products
that
are
consumed
in
these
venues.
That's
what
section
22
does
we
will
define
by
the
way,
single-use
cannabis
and
ready
to
consume
cannabis
products
in
the
regulatory
process?
B
B
We
also
added
in
section
24
that
you
may
not
remove
cannabis
products
that
are
purchased
at
a
lounge.
It's
the
same
concept
as
a
bar.
These
products
are
intended
to
be
consumed
on-site
not
to
be
taken
home.
This
essentially
eliminates
the
possibility
of
these
venues
becoming
de
facto
retail
stores.
That's
not
the
goal
here.
B
These
are
meant
to
be
cannabis
bars
if
you
will,
where
you
purchase
your
product,
consume
it
and
leave,
which
also,
then,
is
why
we
need
to
address
the
issue
of
cannabis
waste
in
these
venues
again,
the
ccd
will
be
prop
promulgating
regulations,
as
it
relates
to
how
to
safely
handle
that
we
also
talk
about
in
section
25,
that
a
how
retail
cannabis
lounge
may
obtain
those
products
and
sell
them,
and
that
they're
selling
single
use
section
26
does
the
same
for
an
independent
cannabis
consumption
lounge.
B
We
wanted
to
make
it
the
same
for
both
lounge
types
in
terms
of
requiring
that
they
both
get
to
sell
the
same
types
of
products
and
that
they
both
acquire
their
products
in
the
same
fashion,
we're
still
working
on
some
language
for
section
26.
We
expect
a
new
amendment
around
that
in
terms
of
section
27.
B
We
we
talk
about
the
ready
to
consume
and
single
use
products,
how
those
will
be
actually
that's
the
section
for
independent
lounges
and
where
those
products
shall
be
purchased.
I
apologize
26
is
an
enabling
language
similar
to
25
in
terms
of
being
able
to
purchase
and
sell.
B
So
for
section
27,
this
focuses
on
an
independent
lounge
and
if
they
choose
to
sell
cannabis
the
process
by
which
they
will
go
through
an
application
with
the
board
requesting
permission
section
28,
we
included
the
term
safe
handling
in
subsection
two
and
also
again
for
conforming
purposes,
added
single
use
before
cannabis,
products
and
subsection
four
and
then
under
section
37.
B
We
wanted
to
include
section
nine
section:
nine
essentially
provides
the
same
type
of
liability
protections
for
a
cannabis
lounge,
as
it
does
for
a
bar,
a
restaurant
that
serves
alcohol.
We've,
we've
added
that
and
essentially
just
used
the
same
statute
for
alcohol
to
apply
to
cannabis,
and
I
believe
that
is
the
end
of
the
presentation
on
the
amendments.
B
For
now
I
appreciate
the
committee's
time
and
vice
chairwin.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
present
today
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
chairman
yeager
to
ask
the
next
presenter
to
speak.
Thank
you
again,
chairman
yeager,
for
inviting
me
to
participate
today.
A
F
F
First,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
my
representative,
chairman
yeager,
for
sponsoring
this
much-needed
legislation
and
for
being
a
wonderful
representative
for
district
nine.
I
have
been
the
proud
resident
of
nevada
for
over
12
years
and
I'm
a
graduate
of
the
unlv,
william
h,
herrera
college
of
hospitality.
F
I
have
been
privileged
to
work
in
the
in
the
industry
for
over
13
years
and
build
an
incredible
life
here
in
las
vegas.
Like
so
many
residents
and
tourists,
I
thrive
off
the
fun,
the
innovation
and
the
excitement
that
our
city
has
to
offer,
but
not
just
as
a
resident,
but
as
a
leader
in
the
cannabis
industry
and
community.
F
For
the
past
two
and
a
half
years,
I've
been
the
brand
manager
for
one
of
the
top
selling
cannabis
brands
in
nevada
old
pal,
and
I
recognized
early
on
the
opportunity
to
help
shape
the
market
that
we
could
be
proud
of,
as
both
nevadans
and
as
passionate
cannabis
leaders
last
fall.
My
colleagues
and
I
were
inspired
to
start
the
chamber
of
cannabis,
a
non-profit
that
unifies
professionals
who
strive
to
build
a
more
inclusive
industry.
F
F
We
also
recognize
the
opportunity
to
boost
tourism
and
economic
growth
after
a
devastating
2020.
cannabis.
Consumers
in
the
industry
are
eager
to
take
the
next
step
to
cannabis.
Commerce,
not
only
have
we
shattered
stereotypes
and
stigmas
so
often
associated
with
cannabis,
but
we
have
set
a
high
bar
on
how
the
plant
can
change
so
many
lives
for
the
better,
including
many
were
not.
Believers
concerning
the
two
new,
the
two
new
license
types
for
cannabis
consumption,
both
existing
retail
and
independent
businesses
would
be
able
to
apply
and
both
would
operate
almost
identically
with
a
few
exceptions.
F
Second,
independent
cannabis
consumption
lounges
would
have
the
ability
to
choose
whether
or
not
to
sell
cannabis
products
in
their
business
model.
If
they
opt
out
to
not
sell
cannabis,
regulations
will
be
put
in
place
to
allow
for
delivery
of
cannabis
to
their
cus
customers
from
a
licensed
retail
cannabis
store.
They
may
also
choose
to
have
their
customers
bring
in
legal
cannabis
into
their
venue
in
a
sealed
package
from
a
licensed
retail
cannabis
store.
F
H
B-U-F-F-O-M-G,
personally,
I'm
a
cannabis
patient
and
the
reason
I
moved
to
nevada
professionally.
I
am
a
cannabis
advocate
and
community
educator.
I
am
the
active
nevada
state
director
for
minorities
for
medical
marijuana
and
director
of
medical
voices
for
the
chamber
of
cannabis.
I
am
here
today
representing
both
of
these
non-profits
in
support
of
assembly
bill
341.
H
Both
of
these
organizations
have
memberships
that
are
diverse
and
represent
all
aspects
of
nevada's
cannabis.
Industry
focused
on
strengthening
commerce
diversity
while
advocating
for
social
equity,
medical
cannabis,
users,
rights
and
cannabis
law
reform.
We
would
like
to
thank
chairman
yeager
for
sponsoring
this
piece
of
critical
cannabis
legislation.
H
H
I
will
include
a
copy
of
this
story
in
my
written
testimony
for
you
to
review
in
nevada
per
the
initial
demographic
report
published
by
the
cannabis
compliance
board
in
january,
the
portion
of
owners,
senior
managers,
board
of
directors
and
executive
board
members
are
disproportionately
over-represented
by
white
americans
and
under-represented
by
latino,
americans,
african-americans
and
asian-americans
nevada.
Through
this
initial
step
of
creating
new
cannabis
license,
classifications
has
a
unique
opportunity
to
create
intentional
pathways
for
diversity
through
ownership,
employment,
upward
mobility
into
management
positions,
supply
chain,
vendor
procurement
and
community
reinvestment.
H
This
is
an
important
first
step
to
bring
social
equity
applicants
to
the
marketplace.
Social
use.
Lounges
will
build
a
new
sector
of
diverse
owners
and
operators.
These
new
licenses
will
help
drive
more
minority
business
owners,
which
is
critical
in
creating
generational
wealth
within
disadvantaged
communities
in
nevada.
H
While
we
have
more
work
to
do
over
the
next
few
years,
including
the
potential
for
further
economic
empowerment
policy
efforts,
assembly
bill
341
is
an
important
first
step
in
changing
the
trajectory
for
communities
of
color
in
nevada.
We
strongly
support
this
bill.
I
will
work
with
the
legislator
and
the
ccb
to
ensure
its
success.
Thank
you
so
much
committee
and
chair
yeager
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today.
G
Thank
you,
mrs
long.
I
think
terry
yeager
do
you
next
have
miss
christina
thomas.
G
C
C
I
am
also
a
small
business
owner
and
holistic
entrepreneur
certified
in
mind-body
medicine
and
a
medical
certified
cannabis
consultant
through
pacific
college
of
health
and
science.
Most
importantly,
I
am
a
wife,
a
mother,
an
advocate
for
my
veteran
peers
and
a
miracle
medical
cannabis
patient.
I
am
here
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
341,
based
on
most
of
the
conversations
you'll
hear
regarding
cannabis
consumption.
Lounges
many
of
the
lounges
will
be
used
for
recreational
consumption,
similar
to
a
bar
or
lounge,
which
I
absolutely
support
because
of
cannabis.
C
C
My
computer
just
glitched,
but
that's
okay
as
a
survivor
of
military
trauma
and
serving
those
that
live
through
their
trauma.
It's
imperative
that
I
give
voice
to
their
needs
and
one
of
those
opportunities
is
creation
of
a
cannabis
wellness
center.
That
would
be
an
option
under
the
independent
lounge
licenses
found
in
ab341.
C
These
businesses
could
be
modeled
after
a
number
of
health
center
models
that
exist
today,
such
as
yoga
studios,
mind
body,
centers,
rehabilitation,
centers,
massage
therapy
and
other
wellness
practices.
It
is
my
hope
that
individuals
who
are
looking
for
a
way
to
have
a
safe
consumption
experience
with
regulated
cannabis
products
for
the
benefit
of
their
health
and
wellness,
and
they
can
find
this
under
these
new
license
types
as
a
certified
medical
cannabis
consultant.
C
I
work
with
patients
all
over
the
world
that
currently
must
navigate
without
the
ability
to
try
their
products
due
to
their
lack
of
safe
consumption
venues.
Many
of
my
clients
that
visit
have
no
other
choice
but
to
learn
a
at
my
private
resident
or
nuwu,
which
has
a
recreational
business
model
that
may
not
be
considered
a
comfortable
place
that
is
conducive
to
their
healing
process.
C
With
patients
here
in
nevada
have
had
success,
providing
them
with
a
private
residence
in
safe
space
for
them
to
work
on
their
healing
and
wellness,
which
includes
my
recommendations
on
which
cannabis
products
they
can
have
and
should
use.
This
is
also
added
for
those
that
we've
asked
to
have
education
in
these
facilities.
C
It
has
been
a
very
rewarding
experience
to
see
trauma,
victims,
work
through
their
process
and
come
out
on
the
other
side
feeling
whole
with
the
renewed
faith
in
life
and
able
to
trust
others,
veterans
and
other
trauma
patients.
Whether
locals
or
tourists,
need
safe,
verified
access
to
their
plant
medicine
and
deserve
compassionate
holistic
care
in
safe
places.
C
My
own
journey
to
learn
about
cannabis
plant
medicine
was
difficult
for
many
reasons.
Due
to
my
illness,
especially
when
it
came
to
trying
new
products
with
proper
guidance,
it
would
have
been
much
easier
to
have
had
a
space
to
visit,
that
understood
cannabis,
offered
advice
on
methods
of
use
and
even
provided
regulated
products
with
certified
analysis.
C
C
Additionally,
as
a
minority
woman
and
a
disabled
veteran,
I
think
that
if
I
don't
speak
out
that
we
should
at
least
be
able
to
look
to
others
and
find
out
what
we
need.
I
think
that
we
can
all
agree
that
nevada
must
do
better
when
it
comes
to
social
equity,
diversity
and
inclusion
across
many
industries.
As
for
ab341,
I
see
it
as
a
great
first
step
towards
achieving
these
goals
that
will
positively
affect
my
community
social
economic
status
through
these
new
opportunities
in
the
cannabis
industry.
C
I
think
it's
important
that
I
add.
I
appreciate
all
of
you
and
all
of
your
hard
work
that
you've
done
thus
far.
It
is
important
I
can
speak
for
all
of
those
that
are
veterans
that
we
truly
appreciate
all
of
your
hard
work,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
considerations,
blessing
peace
and
wellness
to
all
of
you.
I
appreciate
you.
That
is
my
closing
remarks.
Thank
you
vice
chairwin,
thank
you.
Simeon
jager,.
G
Thank
you,
miss
thomas.
I
think.
Next
up
we
have
mr
hudak
go
ahead
and
unmute
and
begin
when
you're
ready.
I
Great
thank
you
good
morning,
vice
chair
wynn,
chairman
jaeger
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today.
Regarding
ab341,
my
name
is
john
hudak.
That's
spelled
j-o-h-n-h-u-d-a-k,
I'm
a
senior
fellow
in
governance
studies,
I'm
the
deputy
director
of
the
center
for
effective
public
management
at
the
brookings
institution,
I'm
also
a
senior
fellow
at
the
brookings
mountain
west
program
at
unlv.
I
In
many
ways
I
consider
nevada
my
home
away
from
home,
as
I
spend
a
significant
amount
of
time
in
the
state
with
the
honor
of
teaching
some
of
nevada's
future
leaders
and
conducting
research
on
issues
relevant
to
the
state,
including
cannabis
policy,
immigration,
medical
education
and
federal
grants
policy.
Before
I
begin,
I
need
to
note
that
my
testimony
for
the
record
today
represents
my
own
views
and
is
not
an
institutional
position
of
the
brooklyn's
institution.
I
Ab341
is
an
important
piece
of
legislation
that
would
bring
cannabis
consumption
lounges
to
the
state
I'll
discuss
with
you
today,
two
general
areas
that
such
policy
will
have
a
benefit.
First
meeting
consumer
demand
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
second
addressing
issues
of
social
and
racial
equity
in
the
state's
cannabis
policies,
I'll
discuss
each
in
order,
there's
a
serious
demand
for
commercial
locations
in
which
cannabis
can
be
used
safely
securely.
I
Discreetly
and
legally,
as
the
chairman
noted
in
his
opening
remarks,
that
demand
is
not
simply
from
tourists,
but
that
demand
is
significant
for
residents
of
nevada
as
well.
In
addition,
we
know
that
policies
around
use
of
that
are
woven
into
the
cannabis
system.
Nevada
are
not
designed
to
be
discriminatory,
but
they
are
discriminatory
in
practice.
I
In
addition,
nevada
would
not
be
the
first
jurisdiction
to
implement
such
establishments
to
meet
consumer
demand,
be
it
residential
demand
or
tourist
demand.
Other
states
and
municipalities
have
either
approved
cannabis,
consumption,
lounges
or
some
version
of
the
same.
Those
policies
are
not
untested
choices
made
in
legalization's
early
days
that
jurisdictions
are
now
seeking
to
reverse.
I
I
The
social
equity
prioritization
for
licensure
of
independent
lounges
also
presents
additional
opportunities
for
those
applicants,
because
these
lounges
will
have
fewer
capital
costs,
startup
costs
and
relatively
lower
license
fees
than
other
types
of
cannabis
businesses.
This
policy
has
the
opportunity
to
to
benefit
the
precise
individuals
the
social
equity
category
seeks
to
boost.
I
It
can
also
ensure
not
just
entry
into
the
cannabis
industry
in
cannabis
ownership
space,
but
also
the
ability
to
succeed
and
to
thrive
next
in
related
to
licensure
cannabis
consumption,
lounges
present
an
opportunity
for
the
state
to
write
some
of
the
wrongs
involved
in
the
early
rounds
of
licensure
for
the
cannabis
industry.
It
has
become
clear
that
the
first
round
of
licensing
in
the
state
could
have
been
more
equitable
and
that
the
system
left
out
a
lot
of
prospective
business
owners
who
could
have
boosted
the
diversity
of
the
ownership
class
in
cannabis.
I
I
To
conclude,
like
in
any
area
of
cannabis
policy,
the
passage
of
ab341
is
just
the
first
step
toward
ensuring
a
policy
that
achieves
the
goals
that
it
sponsors
on
this
committee
and
public
supporters
desire
throughout
the
legislative
and
regulatory
processes.
Officials
must
ask
themselves
whether
the
policy
is
set
to
benefit
the
broadest
swath
of
nevadans,
cannabis,
consumers
and
potential
business
owners
alike
in
areas
where
the
is
stacked
against
those
harmed
most
directly
by
the
drug
war
against
people
of
color
against
young
people
and
women.
Flexibility
must
be
provided
in
the
policy
to
change
course.
I
G
J
Thank
you
and
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
thank
you
to
everybody
else.
I
couldn't
it's
incredible
to
hear
from
the
other
presenters
such
a
honest
and
true
portrayal
of
what
everybody
is
feeling
in
this
industry
good
morning
vice
chair
wynn
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
chris
sage
spelt.
J
C-H-R-I-S-S-A-Y-E-G-H,
I
am
a
chef
and
entrepreneur
in
the
hospitality
space
for
the
past
two
decades,
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
before
you
this
morning
on
behalf
of
chairman
jaeger's
ab341,
and
it
is
my
hope
that
I
can
provide
the
committee
with
some
useful
information
as
you
consider
the
marriage
of
this
legislation
through
my
particular
skill
set
and
my
businesses
on
proceedings
over
the
past
five
years
since
incorporating
by
way
of
introduction,
I
am
very
humbled
to
say
that
I
have
received
global
recognition
for
my
work
in
the
niche
area
of
cannabis
hospitality
before
cannabis
hospitality.
J
My
background
was
in
medical
cell
biology
out
of
the
university
of
california
santa
cruz.
Over
the
years
I
have
worked
with
esteemed
organizations
such
as
the
national
restaurant
association,
the
new
england
food
show,
the
american
culinary
federation
and
the
new
zealand
hospitality
association
amongst
many
many
others
in
the
hospitality
space
in
2019,
I
was
hired
to
create
the
dosing
standards
for
the
netflix
show
called
cooked
with
cannabis
as
well.
J
J
The
proper
way
to
cook
with
cannabis
is
to
understand
the
process
and,
more
important
importantly,
the
quality
of
the
substance.
It
is
important
to
start
with
quality
regulated
product
that
has
been
lab
tested.
That
is
one
of
the
most
important
parts
because
of
the
experience
is
only
as
good
as
a
starting
material.
J
J
J
J
I
also
believe
that
there
should
be
a
necessary
standard
operating
procedure
for
cannabis
hospitality
and
one
thing
to
think
about,
as
you
pro
promulgate
regulations
are
reservations
course
serving
is
a
great
way
to
titrate,
and
that
is
currently
what
my
company
offers
is
a
three-tier
of
of
offerings.
J
Essentially,
there
is
one
that
is
the
family
style,
as
we
dub
it
with
certain
protocols,
and
then
the
next
two
are,
with
coursed
out
meals,
keeping
the
doses
low
and
adding
up
to
the
tolerance
level
specified
by
the
individual
and
the
individual
having
to
be
informed
and
educated.
Prior
to
choosing
that
dosage
and
I'll
go
over
that
and
what
I
mean
in
just
a
second,
but
you
can
always
add
more
and
you
can't
take
it
away
similar
to
salt
and,
as
any
great
chef
knows,
you
have
to
season
things
properly.
J
The
observing
so
observing
cannabis,
consumption
and
changes
in
behavior
are
also
important
in
identifying
over
consumption
and
are
part
of
our
current
sop.
There
are
many
sops
necessary
for
cannabis
hospitality
operation.
This
ranges
from
the
initial
order
of
the
thc
percentage
for
the
customer
to
the
labeling
of
the
dishes,
to
the
timing
in
which
the
dosage
comes
in,
meaning
that
you
can
titrate
it
over
a
longer
period
of
time
and
have
a
certain
effect
with
the
individual
or
you
can
put
it
all
into
one
dish
and
that'll
have
a
certain
effect
for
the
individual.
I
J
Advocate
for
the
latter,
I'm
sorry
we
advocate
for
the
former.
If
a
customer
says
that
they
want
a
oh,
I'm
sorry,
every
establishment
should
have
the
ability
to
create
any
type
of
cuisine
that
the
operator
chooses.
The
main
component
that
is
of
concern
is
the
informed
consent
of
the
consumer.
If
a
consumer
says
that
they
want
a
certain
amount
of
phd,
the
operator
has
the
duty
now
to
oblige
and
a
failure
to
do
so
is
negligence
at
best.
J
In
my
opinion,
here
are
some
of
the
line
items
from
our
sops,
not
including
all
of
them,
but
I'll
go
over
a
few
here.
That
would
get
the
ball
rolling
that
I
would
want
to
elaborate
more
on
as
this
process
continues
educating
the
consumer.
So
we
have
a
picture
guide
and
subsequent
verbal
explanation
to
the
guests
who
are
attending
any
one
of
our
private
events
or
public
events.
J
Then
we
have
our
services
director
go
through
and
take
the
orders
of
each
individual
person
creating
a
guest
label
for
the
evening
with
the
dosage
allergies
and
anything
else
that
we
may
need
to
know
about
the
individual
and
their
seat
number
as
well.
The
expediter
is
the
only
person
who
touches
the
cannabis,
so
there
is
only
one
designated
person
controlling
the
flow
of
dosage
from
our
kitchen
to
our
guests
and
they
communicate
with
both
the
kitchen
and
front
of
house
staff
in
order
to
make
it
as
smooth
as
possible.
J
J
As
we
all
know,
the
science
behind
cannabis
has
been
coming
up
with
some
incredible
new
findings
over
the
years
and
it's
important
to
recognize
that
a
full
spectrum
extract
has
more
longevity
than
any
other
isolate
that
is
currently
on
the
market
and
we
as
operators
should
be
able
to
inform
our
guests
about
why
the
true
nature
of
the
cannabis
plant
and
plant
medicines,
including
the
actual
full
spectrum,
and
why
it's
more
important
to
use
that
than
using
isolated
extract
and
our
staff
is
trained
on
that
as
well.
J
In
addition,
we
have
to
train
our
staff
in
cannabis,
hospitality,
which
means
understanding.
First
and
foremost,
the
totality
of
what
it
means
for
cannabis:
hospitality
in
addition
to
recognizing
overdosing
or
including
to
recognize
somebody
that
comes
in
already
intoxicated
any
number
of
situations
in
which
we
would
have
to
deal
with
in
this
scenario.
J
In
closing,
I
want
to
thank
the
vice
chair
and
the
committee
for
allowing
me
to
present
today
and
to
discuss
these
topics.
I'd
like
to
thank
chairman
yeager
as
well,
for
inviting
me
to
participate
with
my
expertise
as
part
of
the
historical
build
presentation,
one
that,
I
believe
is
the
future
of
our
industry
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
from
the
committee
as
well.
G
A
Thank
you
vice
chairman,
steve
yeager,
for
the
record
before
we
take
questions.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
committee
and
the
vice
chair
for
allowing
us
a
little
bit
of
time
to
talk
about
the
bill
and
hopefully
provide
to
you
what
are
some
exciting
opportunities
for
the
industry
and-
and
I
hope
what
you
heard
in
the
presentation
is
that
this
has
been
pretty
well
thought
out.
A
We
still
have
some
progress
to
make
for
sure,
and
I
think
you'll
hear
some
of
that
through
the
questions
and
the
testimony,
but
I'm
excited
about
what
this
could
mean
for
our
state.
So
with
that,
madam
vice
chair,
we
would
be
happy
to
answer
questions
that
I'm
sure
the
committee
members
have.
G
Thank
you.
I
I
actually
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
also
a
comment
too.
I
I
love
that
our
state
has
become
not
just
an
entertainment
and
gaming
destination,
at
least
since
I
moved
here
in
1999.
You
know
there
were
a
lot
of
chain,
restaurants
and
it
was
a
smaller
like
restaurant
community.
So
I
love
the
fact
that
we
have
become
kind
of
a
foodie
destination.
I
know
like
on
our
own
committee.
We
have
assembly,
woman,
alexis
hansen
who.
I
G
Like
a
foodie,
like
kind
of
blog
on
instagram,
I
love
that
we
can
not
only
offer
like
michelin,
star
restaurants,
but
we
have
more
and
more
local
restaurants
that
are
created
with
their
cooking
and
thriving
in
the
community.
And
I
know
in
looking
at
some
of
this.
There
are
states
across
the
country-
and
I
think
california
has
a
couple
of
these
like
consumption
lounge,
like
licensing
that
allows
these
restaurants
to
kind
of
thrive.
G
So
I
do
see
this
as
a
way
to
attract
like
you
know,
attract
and
promote,
like
our
cannabis,
chefs
and
restauranteers,
and
other
mixologists
and
foodies
in
the
state
of
nevada.
Is
that
how
you
kind
of
see
some
of
these
independent
lounges
being
able
to
work
within
that
model?
And
I'm
not
sure
who
that's
directed
at,
but
I
will
just
kind
of
direct
it
to
those
presenters.
A
B
B
We
know
that
the
legislature
needs
to
set
some
very
firm
rules
about
how
these
businesses
should
operate,
the
guidelines
that
are
necessary
and
then
for
the
ccb
to
promulgate
the
necessary
regulations
to
ensure
that
we
have
safe
consumption,
that
by
doing
this,
we're
not
in
endangering
public
we're,
not
creating
a
public
safety
issue.
If
you
will
or
a
nuisance,
I
mean
I
think
everyone
can
agree
today
that
you
know
the
cannabis
consumption
without
a
legal.
B
Well-Regulated
place
to
go
is
a
nuisance
in
our
community,
whether
it
is
in
your
hotels,
your
sidewalks
parking
lots,
etc,
and
so
you
know
I
I've
toured
quite
a
few
facilities
over
the
last
three
years
in
different
states.
Some
were
what
I
would
almost
describe
as
a
like.
An
airport
smoking
lounge,
which
is
probably
the
last
place
most
folks,
want
to
spend
their
time
consuming
cannabis.
I
mean
to
the
point
where
you
weren't
even
allowed
to
bring
in
food
or
beverage,
maybe
a
bottle
of
water.
B
It
was
literally
a
place
to
get
your
fix
and
leave
we've
seen
some
other
models
where
they've
they've
tried
to
you
know
allow
just
for
for
people
to
bring
their
own
cannabis
in
and
and
while
that
can
can
work.
If
you
allow
for
certain
creativity,
we
also
think
that
the
ability
to
sell
cannabis
in
these
venues
is
important,
and
so
that
really
leads
to
to
the
comment
you
were
making
vice
chair
when,
in
the
question
about
the
the
the
ready
to
consume
food
products.
B
One
thing
I'd
also
add
this
would
also
include
beverages.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
speaking
of
instagram,
if
you
were
on
instagram
during
the
pandemic,
it
was
like
an
interesting
sea
change
at
first
it
was
a
lot
of
people
had
you
know,
run
to
the
liquor
store
to
buy
as
much
alcohol
as
they
could
to
begin
the
pandemic
and
then
realize
somewhere
along
the
way.
B
They
probably
need
to
stop
drinking
so
much
it's
now
the
sudden
it
became
about
these
different
types
of
mocktails,
and
you
know
it
was
just
it's
really
interesting
to
see
how
people
were
kind
of
reacting
to
things
and,
quite
frankly,
over
the
last
two
years,
we've
seen
an
explosion
in
new
non-alcoholic
beverages
and
and
one
of
the
great
things
about
thc
science
right
now
is
that
they've
created
products
that
can
be
added
to
these
beverages
very
low
doses,
to
give
you
a
different
effect,
but
but
to
create
the
same
sort
of
feeling
as
when
you're
drinking
alcohol
in
the
sense.
B
So
we
know
that
you
know
infused
beverages
and
infused
cooking
are
definitely
part
of
the
future
of
this
industry.
I'd
like
to
hand
it
over
to
mr
sage
for
a
moment
to
just
speak
a
little
bit
about
some
of
his
experience,
more
experiences
with
this
and
maybe
other
markets
that
he's
worked
in,
but
I
will
again
say
that
I
we
definitely
recognize
that
there
is
a
huge
opportunity
to
put
nevada
on
the
map
as
a
cannabis
cuisine
destination.
J
Thank
you
for
the
record.
It's
chris
sage,
thanks
scott
and
vice
chair.
When
that's
exactly
the
point,
what
you
brought
up
being
that
there's
a
whole
community
of
people
that
love
particularly
food
and
food,
we
eat
it
three
times
a
day.
What
I
have
found
in
my
work
is
that
what
we're
creating
here
and
and
the
journey
that
we
are
trying
to
elaborate
through
plant
medicine,
which
has
always
been
a
part
of
human
history,
comes
through
really
well
with
food.
J
It
transcends
any
race,
religion,
sex,
language
barriers
that
we
are
currently
dealing
with
and
allows
us
to
open
up
the
conversation
literally
around
the
world,
which
is
what
I've
been
able
to
very
fortunately
and
gratefully
have
seen
firsthand,
in
my
experience,
with
being
essentially
with
my
business,
from
new
zealand
to
spain,
to
italy,
to
canada,
to
south
america,
to
north
america
everywhere
in
the
world
that
I've
been
fortunate
enough
to
speak
at.
J
There
has
been
a
entire,
a
huge
community
of
people
that
are
very
interested
in
this,
and
I
think
that
the
majority
are
interested
in
learning
the
whole
process
about
this.
But
really,
I
think,
hospitality
and
cannabis
and
psychedelics
in
a
more
general
sense,
go
hand
in
hand
with
hospitality.
J
It
is
the
nature
of
nurturing
one
another
and
cannabis
plays
a
vital
role
in
the
in
that
entire
process.
So
I
think
that
there's
you
know
I
I
I
can
speak
for
hours
on
what
I've
seen
with
my
company,
including
in
la
now
in
miami
and
in
colorado,
how
the
the
numbers
have
dramatically
risen
and
the
inquiries
have
dramatically
risen
and
the
number
of
emails
that
we
get
a
day
from
people
wanting
to
learn
this
industry
in
the
hospitality
realm.
So
there
is
a
huge.
J
G
F
F
My
concern
is
how
this
lines
up
with
the
provisions
of
the
nevada,
clean
indoor
air
act-
I'm
just
wondering
well,
I
know
it
wouldn't
be
in
compliance,
because
I'm
pretty
sure
that
it
doesn't
even
mention
marijuana.
So
I'm
wondering
about
ventilation
systems
even
stand-alone.
I
remember
one
time
I
was
working
at
the
smith
center
and
walked
in
next
to
willie
nelson's
trailer
and
was
high
for
the
rest
of
the
day,
not
joking,
so
I'm
just
wondering
how,
if
how.
H
We
address
those
sorts
of
issues.
B
Mr
rutledge
scott
rutledge
for
the
record
through
you,
madam
chair,
madam
vice.
B
Thank
you
vice
chairwin
come
on
go
away,
axelrod.
I
I
would
say
that
a
big
part
of
the
ccb's
role
in
the
regulation
of
these
businesses
is
going
to
be
again
looking
at
that
issue
of
indoor
air
quality
air
movements.
B
We
know
it's
possible
to
create
a
a
better
indoor
air
environment
through
air
movement,
and
I
think
that
you
know,
in
addition
to
the
filtration
systems
that
exist
today.
It's
definitely
something
that
will
be
discussed
and
implemented
through
the
ccb
regulations.
I'd
be
happy
to
have
someone
from
the
ccb
speak
to
this,
but
I
can
also
tell
you
that
we'd
like
to
see
you
know
with
these
venues.
B
Some
will
absolutely
include
the
smoking
of
cannabis
and
the
number
may
choose
not
to
they
may
say:
look
we
want
to
be
a
infused
cannabis,
dining
experience.
We
don't
want
to
allow
the
people
to
smoke
cannabis
throughout
the
venue,
maybe
there's
a
smoking
area.
B
I
also
in
speaking
with
a
representative
from
clark
county
yesterday
and
in
my
past
conversations
with
folks
with
the
city
of
las
vegas.
I
do
not
want
to
include
anything.
I
don't
think
that
that
we
should
include
anything
in
this
legislation
that
prohibits
outdoor
consumption.
B
I
think
that
we
obviously
want
to
maintain
that
that
non-visibility,
so
that
you
know
it's
not
visible
to
the
public
that
this
consumption
is
taking
place,
but
I
imagine
in
a
situation
where
you
might
have
a
rooftop
or
a
patio
area,
that
you
know
allowing
that
outdoor
consumption
can
also
be
part
of
a
business
plan,
but
you
know
that
here's,
what
I'll
say
is
that
these
venues
are
designed
for
folks
that
are
21
years
or
older.
B
G
You
know
what
we
have
so
many
questions,
mr
sage,
that
I'm
gonna
have
one
person
answer
and
then
we're
gonna
get
going.
Otherwise
we
will
never
finish
up
this
morning.
So
if
we
can
go
next
to
assemblywoman
cohen.
F
Thank
you
vice
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
so
I
I
want
to
ask
about
the
social
equity
applicant
portion.
F
I
understand
that
social
equity
in
this
field
has
to
do
a
lot
with
criminalization
or
pre
criminalization
in
previous
years,
but
I
always
thought
that
it
also
included
some
financial
aspects,
and
I
know
there
was
testimony
about.
Oh,
this
is
a
good
way
to
get
into
the
field,
but
how
do
communities
of
lower
income
not
just
get
into
the
field
as
far
as
having
jobs
but
as
far
as
getting
licenses
so
yeah?
That's
kind
of
what
I'm
interested
in
and
and
want
to
make
sure
and
address.
B
Scott
rutledge
for
the
record,
something
woman
cohen.
That's
a
great
question
again
I'll
point
to
the
flexibility
in
the
independent
cannabis
lounge
license
type.
If
you
would
like
to
open
up
a
venue
where
say
permissive
use
takes
place
because
you
don't
have
the
budget
to
say,
open
up
a
venue
that
again
is
going
to
require
inventory
controls
and
all
the
other
aspects
of
selling
cannabis
or
touching
the
plant.
We
wanted
to
allow
that
flexibility.
B
We
also
didn't
want
to
set
it
up
so
that
that
that
venue
would
only
ever
be
what
we
might
call
a
permissive
use.
Venue
or
product
would
be
delivered
to,
but
once
and
once
a
business
is
up
and
running
and
they
have
other
revenue
streams
that
they've
designed
in
this
business
right.
That
gets
asked
a
lot.
How
are
these
businesses
going
to
make
money?
What
I
would
say
is
that
for
some
of
these
businesses,
the
consumption
of
cannabis
is
secondary
to
the
primary
purpose.
B
So
if
you
can
run
a
business
that
makes
money
coffee
shop
or
what
have
you
but
then
allow
your
guests
to
come
in
and
consume
and
then
through
the
process
of
of
being
a
successful
business
through
those
operational
in
revenues,
then
use
those
dollars
to
expand
your
business
model
to
the
cell
of
cannabis.
That's
possible
in
this
legislation.
B
I
also
know
that
you
know
as
we're
going
through
the
regulatory
process.
There's
been
a
discussion
already
with
the
ccb
about
the
reduction
or
elimination
of
certain
fees.
There's
also
a
question
about
the
initially
with
cannabis
establishment
licenses.
There
was
this
requirement
of
liquidity,
and
that
is
not
expressly
deleted
in
this
legislation,
because
we
do
believe
any
business
that
is
going
to
apply,
especially
for
a
privileged
license.
B
We'll
need
some
operational
cash
flow
on
the
front
end,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
define
that
liquidity
in
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
as
we
have
in
the
past.
In
fact,
I
think
that
we
can
set
that
at
a
much
lower
level.
But
again,
I
think
that's
based
on
what
we
hope
will
be
robust
and
and
very
informative
conversations
around.
What's
what
we
can
actually
do
through
the
regulatory
process
to
assist
social
equity
applicants
and
beyond
even
financial
means
with
expertise,
etc?
B
F
Thank
you
vice
chair.
Can
you
help
me
have
a
like
a
realistic
view
of
what
this
might
look
like
in
in
our
you
know,
down
on
the
strip
or
or
you
know
in
our
in
our
communities?
So
so
could
we
have
an
open
ear?
F
F
B
Again,
scott
rutledge
for
the
record,
something
in
consulma
one,
I'd
like
to
say
good
morning
to
you,
especially
I'm
one
of
your
constituents
in
district
2..
I
I
think
there
might.
There
might
be
a
little
confusion
in
here
number
one.
These
are
not
me.
This
is
not
meant
for
public
consumption
right.
This
isn't
meant
to
be
something
where
you
you
walk
over
into
a
corded
area,
right
that,
like
the
smoking
section,
if
you
will,
these
are
businesses,
brick
and
mortar
right,
they're
they're!
B
The
intention
is
to
go
in
there
have
a
cannabis
experience.
That's
curated,
both
from
this
perspective
of
the
sale
to
the
education
that
takes
place
in
the
case
of
an
independent
lounge
where
the
product
may
be
delivered
again.
You're
still
there's
still
a
transaction
and
those
can
be
limited
someone's
bringing
product
in
again
it's
about
talking
to
them
about
the
product
that
they're
bringing
in
and
making
sure
it
meets
the
the
restrictions
or
requirements
for
bringing
that
product
into
the
venue.
B
As
far
as
you
know,
something
on
the
strip
or
in
the
gaming
corridor,
the
bill
explicitly
prohibits
these
types
of
businesses
from
being
located
within
1500
feet
of
an
unrestricted
gaming
license.
There
is
a
provision
to
allow
some
of
the
existing
retail
stores
that
might
find
themselves
within
that
buffer
that
have
been
in
existence
before
that
new,
that
new
setback
was
created
in
ab533
in
2019
to
allow
them
to
have
an
attached
retail
venue,
but
an
independent
lounge
would
not
be
able
to
locate
within
that
1500
feet.
B
So
this
is
part
part
of
the
solution
with
tourism.
Here
is.
We
do
want
to
have
venues
that
are
located.
You
know
around
the
the
corridor.
You
know
near-ish,
let's
say
because
obviously,
that
1500
foot
buffer
does
provide
some
restrictions
and
we'll
eliminate
some
locations
that,
while
we
might
think
from
a
common
sense,
perspective
are
ideal
in
in
respect
and
honor
to
what
the
gaming
industry
is
requested.
In
this
you
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
protect
what
they're
doing
as
well.
B
So
I
see
this
as
these
are
more
of
destinations
versus
a
place
that
as
you're
walking
down
the
street,
it's
like.
Oh
there's,
the
smoking
area.
That's
not
the
intention
here!
These
are
destinations.
In
addition,
it's,
like
you,
ask
the
question.
Maybe
how
would
a
consumer
know
where
to
go?
This
will
now
allow
retailers
to,
at
the
point
of
sell,
inform
the
these
these
consumers,
their
customers,
that
you
know
more
explicitly
around
our
consumption
laws
in
nevada.
You
know
you
cannot
consume
this
in
your
hotel
room
or
on
the
casino
floor
on
a
public
sidewalk.
B
You
may
consume
this
at
a
venue.
If
they
don't
have
a
venue
attached
to
their
retail
location,
they
could
provide
information
about
other
venues
that
are
nearby,
so
the
goal
really
is
to
now
kind
of
flip
the
script
a
little
bit.
Instead
of
avoiding
that
conversation
with
our
cannabis,
consumers
be
able
to
educate
them
about
where
it
is
permissive.
F
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair
and
good
morning.
Everyone
and
my
question
is
in
regards
to
some
of
the
discussion
about
infusing
the
products
I
mean.
The
products
into
food,
perhaps,
and-
and
so
I
want
to
find
out,
do
have
we
established
an
impairment
standard
because
my
concern
is,
you
know,
certainly
that's
a
concern
if
we
have
standalone,
lounges
or
even
adjacent
to
dispensaries.
F
B
But
as
you'll
probably
hear
mr
sage
say
here
in
a
moment,
it
really
depends
on
the
individual
and-
and
there
are
a
number
of
factors
to
consider.
So
if
it's
possible,
madam
vice
chair,
I'd
like
to
ask
mr
sage
to
take
the
rest
of
this
answer.
G
J
Thank
you
both
very
much
assemblyman
woman
hanson
that
it's
an
excellent
question
that
you're
bringing
up
here.
One
thing
that
we
have
continually
been
a
part
of
is
essentially
having
the
ability.
So
when
we
have
somebody
reserve
a
seat
or
two
or
however
many
they're
booking
out,
we
offer
a
ride
share
and
we
have
a
partnership
with
lyft
where
we
can
actually
discount
their
ride
to
and
from.
We
realize
that
this
is
a
special
case
scenario.
J
This
is
not
going
to
apply
to
absolutely
every
establishment
in
which
would
do
this,
but
to
actually
pinpoint
a
level
of
impairment
would
be
only
possible
through
the
education
of
our
staff.
There
is
no
possible
way
to
create
a
standard
within
what
somebody
is
considered
impaired,
because
the
individuality
of
how
cannabis,
specifically
the
psychoactive
thc
affects
everybody,
is,
is
so
variable
from
person
to
person,
and
it
could
be.
Somebody
could
get
100
milligrams
and
feel
completely
fine,
while
another
person
can
have
10
milligrams
and
be
completely
floored.
J
There
is
no
standard
in
the
industry
in
that
way
because
of
that
specific
issue
that
has
consistently
arisen
in
any
of
the
research
done
through
consumption.
So
I
think
that
all
of
it
boils
down
to
the
sops.
All
of
it
boils
down
to
the
education
of
the
staff
and
the
consumer
when
you
are
essentially
when
we're
putting
forward
this
consumption,
lounge
consumption
areas
designated
consumption,
restaurants
or
bars,
etc.
J
It
really
like
there's
only
one
way,
to
actually
monitor
anything
and
that's
again
going
to
come
through
with
how
our
servers
are
interacting
with
the
guests.
If
there
is
a
guest
who
comes
in
inebriated,
that's
a
cause
for
us
in
our
personal
business.
One
of
our
sops
is
if
somebody
comes
in
already
inebriated,
we
don't,
we
just
put
in
cbd
to
their
meal,
so
that
way
they
can
still
enjoy
everything
with
the
group
that
they're
with
and
don't
feel
left
out.
J
However,
we
recognize
that
there
is
a
cut
off
limit
in
which,
if
they
were
to
continue
to
consume
thc
alcohol
acts
as
a
metabolic
catalyst
for
the
metabolism
of
thc.
Therefore,
we
would
be
doing
our
salt
and
them
a
disservice
by
already
or
by
offering
them
cannabis
in
an
already,
you
know,
sort
of
sketchy
situation,
and
then
the
last
note
on
this
would
be,
for
you
know
what
you
said
about
our
food.
You
know.
J
Are
we
having
to
worry
about
our
food
being
infused
and
then,
if
we
can
drive
after
a
meal?
The
whole
point
is
to
have
a
educated
consumer
base
and
an
educated,
serving
staff
and
an
educated
staff.
J
Essentially
because
you
can't
everybody
has
free
will
and
of
course,
if
they
want
to
go
to
a
bar
and
have
a
few
beverages,
it
is
within
their
right
to
already
do
that
and
that
it's
only
the
only
time
that
the
staff
is
liable
is
if
they
see
that
somebody
is
completely
inebriated
and
they
don't
do
anything
to
prevent
it.
So
I
would,
I
would
say
that
a
lot
of
the
situations
in
which
we've
already
faced
with
bars
and
the
current
legislation
within
the
alcohol
industry
would
pass
over
into
the
cannabis
industry
in
that
way.
G
Thank
you,
mr
sage
and
assemblywoman
hanson.
I
did
hear
back
from
our
legal
staff,
but
I
think
I
can
actually
go
to
chair
yeager
to
kind
of
point
out
where
it
is
within
this
amendment
amended
language,
chair
yeager:
do
you
think
you
can
answer
that
or
would
you
like
me
to
go
to
brad?
I
see
him
pop
up
on
the
screen.
A
I
think
I
can
answer
it.
Thank
you.
Matt
advisor
steve
yeager
for
the
record
just
wanted
to
clarify
in
terms
of
how
we
treat
liability
with
respect
to
people
who
are
serving
the
products
operating
the
venues,
we're
looking
to
treat
it
exactly
the
same
as
we
do
with
alcohol.
So,
in
the
amendment
that
mr
rutledge
went
through
it's
the
very
last
two
pages
of
the
amendment,
you'll
see
some
green
language
there
and
essentially
what
we
did
was
take
the
existing
statute
that
protects
alcohol
establishments
and
translate
them
to
cannabis
establishments.
A
So
you
know
what
that
means.
Essentially
is
it's
up
to
the
individual
to
to
be
responsible.
Of
course
there
is
an
educational
component
and
I
would
expect
the
ccb
to
have
some
regulations
around
education,
informing
the
consumer,
about
transportation
options,
but
I
think
you
can
think
of
it.
Much
like
we
do
with
bars.
We
do
have
some
level
of
expectation
that
consumers
are
going
to
be
responsible
adults,
and
you
know
there
have
been
a
number
of
campaigns
over
the
years,
for
you
know,
designated
drivers
and
give
your
keys
away.
A
F
G
I
I
have
a
bunch
of
people
with
follow-up,
so
I'll
see
if
I
can
swing
back
around.
If
we
have
time
next,
we
can
go
to
assemblyman
or
in
liquor.
F
Thank
you
vice
chair.
I
find
the
concept
of
consumption
lounge
very
appealing,
but
I
recall
from
the
testimony
from
an
expert
on
the
cannabis
event
bill
saying
that
one
of
the
important
reasons
to
support
enabling
cannabis
events
is
that
in
other
states
the
cannabis
lounge
concept
has
not
lived
up
to
its
promise
and
that
it
hasn't
been
appealing
to
consumers
of
cannabis.
So
I
wonder
if
we
could
get
some
clarity
on
this
different
presentation
about
the
value
and
benefits
of
consumption,
lounges.
B
Scott
rutledge
for
the
record
oren
liquor.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I'm
I'm
actually
familiar
with
the
presenter
from
that
that
hearing
on
ab322
andrew
muir,
he
and
I
worked
closely
together
back
in
2019
on
the
city
of
las
vegas,
ordinance
for
a
social
use,
venue
license
and
andrew's
correct
what
they've
done
in
other
markets
didn't
work.
I
think,
as
I
mentioned
before,
I'll
tell
you
specifically
where
it
was.
I
went
to
san
francisco
and
visited
one
of
their
social
use.
I
used
two
of
them,
in
fact
their
lounges.
B
You
go
into
a
retail
store,
you
buy
cannabis
there,
and
then
you
have
a
essentially
what
I
consider
like
an
airport
smoking
lounge
to
consume
again:
you're
not
allowed
to
take
any
food
beverages.
You
consume
your
cannabis
and
you
leave
most
folks
would
rather
buy
that
cannabis
and
go
where
they
like
to
consume,
whether
it
be
home
or
the
park
or
wherever
in
denver.
They
had
a
lot
of
challenges
with
the
way
that
they
drafted
proposition,
300.
B
and
other
attempts
to
cannabis
consumption
legislation
in
that
state,
I
believe
their
new
cannabis
hospitality
law
is,
is
much
improved.
I'm
hearing
from
my
colleagues
in
the
colorado
cannabis
marketplace
they're
very
excited
about
what
that
is
going
to
provide
in
terms
of
venues
that
people
will
actually
want
to
attend
and
look.
I
would
say
this.
I
know
there
have
been
there's
been
some
communication
out
there
around
you
know.
The
idea
of
events
definitely
are
are
something
that
occur
on
a
regular
basis
and
having
regulated
cannabis
consumption.
Events
are
definitely
something
that
we
support.
B
We
talked
about
even
what
that
might
look
like
in
this
legislation
and
understanding.
There
was
another
bill
for
that
that
assuming
miller
was
working
on.
We
said
you
know
what
they're
gonna
do
that
we're
gonna
focus
on
the
lounges.
I
will.
I
will
say
this
in
theory
right
these
venues.
Depending
on
what
type
of
venue
you
create.
Let's
say
somebody
wants
to
open
up
a
a
venue
that
is
for
live.
Music
live
entertainment
is
allowed
in
this
build
right.
B
So
now
you
have
a
live
music
venue
where
either
cannabis
can
be
purchased
because
you
chose
to
sell
it
or
you
could
work
with
potentially
one
of
these
vendors,
where
they
would
do
the
event
inside
that
venue.
But
the
point
is
we
want
flexibility
in
this
licensing
because
the
creativity
that
is
out
there,
the
things
that
I've
been
hearing
from
various
entrepreneurs
over
the
last
three
years.
I
know
chairman
yeager
referenced
it
in
his
opening
statement.
B
It
truly
is
incredible
and
if
there's
ever
been
a
community
and
again
I'm
going
to
be
a
little
southern
nevada
here
and
say
that
you
know
las
vegas
has
demonstrated
time
and
time
again
that
they're
willing
to
take
risks
and
do
interesting
things,
and
we
are.
We
have
the
world
watching
us,
so
I
would
say
this.
B
I
would
like
to
see
this
bill
done
in
such
a
way
that
other
states
other
markets
take
what
we
do
here,
take
our
exacting
standards
and
regulation,
but
also
look
at
the
entrepreneur,
entrepreneurial
spirit
that
will
happen
around
this
industry
and
and
then
mimic
what
we
do
here.
So,
yes,
it
is
correct.
Other
places
have
tried
to
do.
Lounges
venues
has
not
been
successful.
We
think
that
chairman
yeager's
bill
designed
as
such,
will
allow
for
it'll
change
that
conversation
around
what
these
lounges
can
be.
G
B
G
Rutledge
again,
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
to
at
least
the
first
round
of
questions
with
people
if
we
can
go
next
to
assemblywoman
hardy.
F
Thank
you
adam
vice
chair
for
the
question,
so
some
of
my
questions
were
asked
by
assemblywoman
hanson,
but
just
a
couple
get
a
little
more
clarification
about
like
the
training
with
employees,
about
single-use
cannabis
products,
recognizing
impairment
or
over
consumption,
and
then
how
to
handle
a
consumer
that
how
to
recognize
and
then
handle
that
so
are
I
kind
of
I'm
thinking
in
my
mind
it's
similar
to
like
what
what
people
get
with
a
tam
card.
You
have
to
get
the
education.
Then
you
get
the
card
to
show
that
you
receive
that
training.
F
So
are
there
currently
training
programs
already
or
is
that
something
the
board
would
develop?.
B
Scott
rutledge
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
question
assembling
hardy.
There
are
some
programs
that
exist
today.
I
imagine
that,
through
the
pcb's
process
of
promulgating
these
regulations,
we
may
point
to
some
of
the
specific
serv,
smart
programs.
I
think
that
I
I
think
that
something
that
could
come
out
of
this
is
actually
an
opportunity
for
entrepreneurs
to
develop
those
types
of
education
and
training
programs
based
on
the
exacting
regulations
we
expect
from
the
ccb.
B
So
I
do
think
that
while
we
don't
have
that
program
here
in
nevada,
I
know
it
has
existed
in
a
couple
of
other
markets,
but
I
like
to
see
a
nevada
design
program.
I
see
nicole
bafong
shaking
her
head,
yes,
because
this
is
something
that
she
and
her
organization
have
been
working
on
nationally.
B
So
I
think
we
should
have
a
nevada.
You
know
created
program
that
it
will
be
based
on
the
regulations.
F
Thank
you
because
that's
a
component,
I
think,
is
really
important
because
you
know,
as
we
keep
hearing
there's,
not
a
standard,
and
so
it
affects
people
differently.
And
so
how
do
you
recognize
that
you
know
for
maybe
someone
that
hasn't
been
around
it
at
all
or
very
much?
I
think
that's
really
essential
to
be
able
to
to
recognize
that
in
someone
and
then
what
to
do
about
it
and
then
just
one
more
question,
one
more
question:
if
that's
okay.
G
F
B
Scott
rutledge
for
the
record,
they
are
not
currently
a
a
ccb
regulation
that
does
not
allow
alcohol
to
be
included
in
any
cannabis
products
or
served,
and
so
because
this
is
a
cannabis
establishment
license.
You
cannot
mix
those
licenses.
This
was
discussed
somewhat
in
2019
when
the
city
of
las
vegas
was
looking
to
do
their
ordinance,
because
these
were
not
going
to
be
regulated
by
the
state
and
therefore
not
cannabis,
establishment
licenses.
B
G
I
G
Glad
that
we
got
that
on
the
record,
I
think
some
other
people
have
that
question
too.
If
we
can
go
next
to
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chairwin,
and
I
share
win
and
chair
yeager
a
very
interesting
topic.
My
question
is
going
back
to
what
was
alluded
to
by
assemblywoman
cohen,
and
that
is
the
social
equity.
H
I
would
like
us
to
have
legislation
that
is
not
aspirational,
but
is
intentional
to
heal
and
fix
the
the
wrongs
that
have
happened
in
the
past,
and
I
am
just
very
unclear
from
your
presentation
how
permissive
use
venues
are
going
to
be
able
to
allow
a
a
owner
to
earn
enough
capital
to
be
able
to
get
a
full
license,
and
I
my
understanding
is
those
licenses
are
a
million
dollars
or
more
in
cost
and
so
you're
very
unclear
on
how
that
is
going
to
be
accomplished
and,
and
that
very
much
so
concerns
me.
B
B
We
are
studying
for
it
in
this
legislation
to
provide
a
reduced
fee
for
this
license
type.
B
Secondly,
in
terms
of
the
the
type
of
revenue
that
someone
would
like
type
of
business,
that
someone
would
like
to
open
again
to
be
very
clear,
an
independent
cannabis
lounge
can
do
the
exact
same
things
as
a
retail
cannabis
lounge.
B
The
difference
we
are
providing
for
with
an
independent
cannabis
lounge
is
that
if
you
are
a
social
equity
applicant
and
your
access
to
capital
is
limited,
you'd
like
to
place
a
marker
in
this
business
in
this
industry
and
open
up
a
lounge
that,
while
you
may
not
initially
choose
to
sell
cannabis
because
again
the
costs
related
to
that
are
so
high
and
and
that's
outside
of
licensing.
That's
just
the
cost
of
doing
the
business
that
then
you
would
be
able
to
open
up
your
business
where
you
would
have
other
revenue
streams
again.
B
B
Otherwise,
now
all
of
a
sudden
they've
developed
the
core
business
and
at
which
point
they
could
use
operational
revenues
to
go
after
that
license.
But
again
nothing
prohibits
that
business
owner
from
starting
from
applying
to
the
ccb
for
the
ability
to
sell
cannabis
at
that
independent
cannabis
lounge.
B
So
we're
hoping
that,
through
the
reduction
in
fees
and
again,
we
still
need
to
look
at
some
additional
language
around
social
equity
applicants
and
how
do
we
further
in
not
just
provide
for
those
reductions
and
fees,
but
we
truly
incentivize
those
applicants
to
be
part
of
this
industry.
G
H
Has
there
been
any
discussion
about
setting
aside
some
of
the
fees
that
are
paid
from
the
licensed
the
existing?
The
existing
full
licensed
cannabis
dispensaries
to
go
into
some
type
of
a
fund
to
help
these
social
equity
applicants
to
be
able
to
start
their
businesses
and
to
be
able
to
sell
from
the
gate?
Because,
again
your
model
for
no
sale
or
bring
in
does
not
appear
to
be
a
an
intentional
model.
It
seems
aspirational
and
to
me
destined
to
fail.
Thank
you.
B
Again,
scott
for
the
record
to
your
question,
to
some
of
them
in
summer's
armstrong
again
I'll
say
that
any
independent
cannabis
lounge
has
the
ability
to
sell
from
day
one
the
idea
of
allowing
that
flexibility
again
comes
down
to
having
the
resources
to
provide
for
all
of
those
additional
costs,
as
it
relates
to
touching
the
plant.
As
far
as
a
fund
yeah,
there
have
been
discussions.
Certainly
we
would
need
to
make
some
changes
to
how,
for
example,
marijuana
or
cannabis
tax
revenue
is
distributed.
B
I
know
it's
one
of
the
chambers
goals
to
see
an
equity
fund
created,
and
we
have
had
conversations,
including
with
chairman
yeager,
about
this
and
others.
If
it's
something
that
this
body
would
like
to
see,
you
know
happen,
we
can
certainly
have
that
conversation,
whether
it
be
part
of
this
legislation
or
more
broadly.
Perhaps
we
ask
the
ccb
to
look
at
that.
B
I
do
think
that
if
it's
not
going
to
have
happened
this
session,
then
through
the
ccb
and
their
their
workshops
and
with
the
new
advisory
panel
that
has
been
created
that
this
conversation
about
creating
a
fund
like
that
to
assist
these
social
equity
applicants
get
into
this
industry.
I
think
it
would
receive
broad
support,
certainly
from
my
client
and
the
other
presenters
that
have
helped
present
this
bill
today.
B
But
as
far
as
in
this
bill,
I
would
say:
it's
not
aspirational
as
an
independent
lounge
to
again
selling
cannabis
you,
you
have
the
ability
to
do
that
from
the
jump.
It's
just
a
question
of
whether
you
choose
to
do
that
or
not
again.
It
was
just
a
matter
of
adding
some
flexibility
for
those
apps.
G
F
Thank
you
vice
chair
for
allowing
me
the
time
mr
rutledge,
here
in
carson
city
we've
had
some
problems
with
a
company
opening
up
and
conducting
business
the
neighbors
from
several
hundred
yards
away,
complaining
about
the
voters
from
their
business
that
they
were
conducting
and
I'm
talking
several
probably
a
quarter
mile
or
better.
So
if
my
question
is
in
these
other
places,
where
they've
established
these
cannabis
usage
lounges,
you
talked
about
how
they
would
try
to
protect
their
employees
from
being
high.
F
B
Scott
rutledge
for
the
record,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Assembling
and
o'neill.
B
Sorry,
thank
you,
son
and
o'neil.
I
would
I
would
first
say
that
there's
a
a
lot
of
discussion,
of
course,
around
second-hand
cannabis
smoke
and
the
effects
it
can
have
on
individuals.
B
B
I
don't
know
that
it's
been
proven
that
it's
a
hazard,
but
it
certainly
can
be
a
nuisance.
The
smell
itself.
B
The
ambient
odor
that
takes
place
around
cannabis
during
like
say
a
cultivation
is
a
lot
different
than
the
ambient
smell
of
cannabis
when
it's
in
a
retail
store
now,
obviously
we're
adding
to
that
consumption,
the
the
smoking
of
cannabis
and
again,
the
that
smell.
I
think,
we've
all
smelt
it
again.
B
B
They
could
address
this
issue
of
nuisance
odor
right
and
I
actually
had
a
conversation
with
somebody
from
clark
county
yesterday
about
this
very
issue,
so
I
I
think
it's
something
that
it
can
be
done
if
you
don't
allow
outdoor
consumption
at
a
local
level.
That
certainly
is
one
way
to
address
it,
but
I
also
think
that
it's
it's
finding
the
balance
between.
Do.
We
want
folks
to
consume
this
indoors.
Do
we
want
to
allow
it
outdoors?
G
Thank
you,
mr
relig.
At
this
time
I
am
going
to
begin
testimony
and
support
opposition
and
neutral.
I
know
that
we
do
have
the
cannabis
compliance
board.
We
have
the
executive
director
that
is
on
the
zoom,
and
so
I
will,
if
we
can
do
it,
I
know
we
have
floor
coming
up.
G
If
we
can,
I
will
allow
for
some
additional
questions
after
hearing
some
of
that
testimony,
so
if
I
can
just
make
sure
that
some
of
those
people,
in
particular
from
the
cannabis
compliance
board
kind
of
stay,
on
the
line
to
answer
any
potential
questions
that
we
have
after
that,
so
at
this
time
I
will
begin
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
341.,
chair
yeager.
Do
we
have
anyone
other
than
the
people
that
had
presented
as
a
part
of
the
bill
on
the
line
to
testify
in
support.
G
F
Madam
vice
chair,
we
are
experiencing
just
a
little.
This
is
broadcast,
we
are
experiencing
technical
difficulties,
but
it.
G
G
C
C
F
For
the
record,
my
name
is
brianna
padilla
b-r-I-a-n-a-p-a-d-I-l
I
serve
as
the
communications
director
for
the
chamber
of
cannabis
and
I'm
submitting
my
support
for
ab341,
as
I
believe
it
is
a
crucial
first
step
in
decriminalizing
the
adult
use
of
legal
weed.
With
the
legalization
of
cannabis.
In
2017,
we
created
a
huge
gap
that
left
our
tourist
and
nonland
owning
residents,
essentially
criminalized
for
the
consumption
of
a
legal
substance,
one
which
many
turn
to
for
medical
reasons
as
a
resident
cannabis,
professional
community
advocate
who
regularly
engages
with
the
public.
F
I
can
tell
you
that
a
legal
lounge
type
model
is
long
overdue
in
our
state,
while
it
is
only
the
first
step
in
what
will
likely
be
a
long
process
guided
by
the
ccv
and
its
committees,
the
proposed
bill
represents
the
most
viable
and
actionable
option
for
the
establishment
of
these
lounge
licenses.
While
acknowledging
that
policy
does
not
exist
in
a
vacuum.
In
the
creation
of
these
types
of
consumption
lounge
models,
we
are
allowing
for
the
development
of
a
new,
more
accessible
model
of
cannabis
license.
F
While
addressing
the
concerns
of
stakeholders
and
community
members
alike,
I
see
possibility
and
potential
for
this
bill
and
others
like
it
to
improve
access
to
my
community
through
the
creation
of
licenses
with
different
and
more
accessible
thresholds
of
ownership.
While
any
kind
of
cannabis
lounge
is
and
should
be
considered
a
privileged
license,
we
must
ensure
that
the
privilege
is
not
only
extended
to
the
wealthy,
the
white
and
the
property.
We
must
give
community
members,
especially
those
by
harmed
by
the
war
on
drugs.
F
The
opportunity
to
establish
themselves
provide
them
a
fair
opportunity
to
compete
in
an
industry
right
within
equity
and
establish
their
businesses
with
a
flexible
and
realistic
path
for
growth.
While
there
are
still
amendments
to
be
made
to
this
bill,
I
believe
ab341
is
a
crucial
and
necessary
first
step
towards
this
future,
with
our
state
still
reeling
from
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
and
facing
an
inevitable
influx
of
visitors.
F
C
C
With
this
opportunity,
my
name
is
mark
cohn,
I'm
a
resident
of
las
vegas
and
a
co-founder
and
ceo
of
bud
place
hqf
and
buds
place
franchising
llc.
Both
companies
are
headquartered
in
las
vegas
and
buds
place.
Franchising
is
a
franchisor
of
social
cannabis,
consumption
lounges
and
the
only
cannabis
related
franchisor
that's
been
permitted
to
join
the
international
franchise
association.
C
We
would
like
to
thank
by
start
by
thanking
chairman
yeager,
for
putting
together
a
very
complete
and
well-conceived
bill
related
to
consumption
lounges.
He
recognized
many
of
the
potential
issues
and
complexities
of
our
business,
while
addressing
the
reasons
why
these
types
of
establishments
are
needed
by
both
the
residents
of
nevada
and
the
tourists
that
we
try
to
attack,
attract
from
other
states
and
other
countries.
C
However,
we'd
like
to
bring
up
some
concerns,
we
have
regarding
specifically
section
22
discussing
the
regulations,
including
and
about
sealed
containers
of
cannabis
being
brought
into
the
establishment
and
a
greeter
or
employee
trying
to
enforce
those
rules.
C
We
understand
and
agree
with
all
of
the
basic
concepts
and
intentions
of
this
section:
reduced
impact
of
the
black
market,
adherence
to
possession
rules
and
to
delineate
the
air
safety
needs
as
well
and
by
the
way,
we're
proud
to
say
that
our
business
model
goes
above
and
beyond.
The
air
quality
standards
noted
in
the
bill
here
are
some
possible
concerns
about
the
implementation
of
the
section
as
it's
written
searching
the
customers
at
the
door.
G
C
G
C
F
C
F
C
F
F
In
2010
I
was
charged
with
the
cannabis
felony.
It
was
a
difficult
time,
as
I'm
sure
it
is
for
so
many
others
who
have
been
criminalized
by
the
failed
policies
of
the
cannabis
prohibition,
but
I
have
also
had
the
privilege
and
opportunity
to
have
my
record
expunged,
which
has
allowed
me
to
pursue
a
career
in
the
cannabis
industry.
F
I
truly
consider
myself
lucky
to
have
found
a
career
in
cannabis.
It
has
become
my
passion
and
my
purpose.
My
groups
of
my
group
of
friends
in
vegas
are
some
of
the
best
women.
I
know
they
are
mothers,
business
leaders,
entrepreneurs,
athletes,
community
volunteers
and,
of
course,
civically
minded,
and
we
all
have
one
thing
in
common:
we
choose
to
consume
cannabis
because
we
enjoy
the
way
it
makes
us
feel
it
is
our
intoxicant
of
choice,
but
without
any
venues
or
spaces
to
legally
consume.
F
We
put
ourselves
at
risk
to
be
penalized
and
we
decide
to
get
together
in
a
public
place
and
consume.
We
don't
do
this
in
protest
or
because
we
get
some
thrill
from
breaking
the
law.
We
simply
believe
it's
more
fun
and
enjoyable
when
we
consume
socially
together.
We
see
the
bigger
picture
ahead
of
nevada
by
allowing
consumption
lounges,
and
we
know
that
if
we
are
often
thinking
about
the
opportunities
that
await
us
well,
we
can't
be
the
only
ones.
F
These
new
licenses
will
allow
more
women
entrepreneurs
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
emerging
cannabis
market,
hopefully
providing
some
much
needed
feminization
style
and
sophistication
to
what
has
become
an
overwhelmingly
male-centric
marketplace,
and
that's
going
to
be
good
for
nevada's
cannabis
industry.
As
roughly
half
of
cannabis,
consumers
are
women.
I
would
like
to
once
again
thank
chairman
yeager
for
sponsoring
ab341,
and
I
would
like
to
thank
vice
chairman
and
the
committee
members
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today.
Thank
you.
C
C
I
have
been
disenfranchised
by
the
war
on
drugs
systemically
not
only
at
a
federal
level,
but
also
at
state
level.
Back
in
2011
I
got
indicted
under
operation
chronic
problem.
I
was
set
up
by
an
undercover
dea
officer
who
posed
as
a
sick
patient
when
I
worked
at
nevada
compassionate
care.
A
few
months
prior,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
president
obama
at
a
health
care
reform
rally
where
he
said
he
was
not
prosecuting
medical
cannabis
patients.
C
A
few
months
later,
I
got
prosecuted
for
a
very,
very
small
amount.
I
ended
up
getting
probation
and
a
hundred
dollar
fine,
because
we
did
not
want
to
snitch
on
any
of
the
800
patients
that
we
had
just
signed
up
on
nevada's
medical
cannabis
program,
because
there
was
no
laws
or
distribution
or
consumption.
At
that
time,
I
said
that
to
say
this:
a
pathway
to
ownership
also
should
include
dispensaries.
C
Cultivations
and
lounges,
when
I
reached
out
to
dick
sagerbloom
in
regards
to
zeke
on
this
subject,
he
told
me
that
nevada
state
legislature
was
responsible
and
they're
the
ones
who
made
the
law
to
exclude
felons
from
working
in
the
industry.
C
So
after
I
got
out
of
prison
and
helped
build
an
industry
and
made
100
over
100
million
dollars
and
my
risk
now
pops
out
of
place,
I
am
disbarred
from
working
in
the
industry
due
to
my
felony.
I
think
that
this
bill
would
help
open
up
a
pathway
to
ownership
for
people
who
have
been
disenfranchised
by
the
war
on
drugs,
but
also
needs
to
be
addressed.
Real
ownership
like
they're
doing
in
other
states.
As
far
as
cultivation,
blabs
dispensaries,
we.
C
I
can
definitely
send
all
this
testimony
in
perfect,
definitely
tic
sayer
bloom
said
it's
called
capitalism
dispensary.
G
C
J
A-N-D-E-R-S-O-M
representing
the
apothecary
shop
dispensary
at
4240,
west
flamingo
road
in
las
vegas.
I
appreciate
the
participation
of
everyone
on
this
issue.
I'm
glad
that
we
were
able
to
be
intimately
involved
in
the
drafting
this
legislation.
I
support
it
as
amended
in
chairman
yeager's
most
recent
amendment.
This
is
a
balanced,
careful
approach
to
implementing
a
safe
place
for
folks
to
use
cannabis
in
nevada.
J
It's
going
to
be
a
long
process.
The
cannabis
compliance
board
is
going
to
go
through
a
lot
of
careful
consideration
in
the
regulatory
process.
Local
governments
will,
then
you
know,
have
their
input
in
terms
of
how
to
zone
and
allow
these
licensees
to
move
forward.
So
I
just
think
this
is
a
is
a
very
measured
and
careful
approach
to
allowing
cannabis
consumption
lounges,
which
we
obviously
desperately
need,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
who
have
really
no
place
to
consume
cannabis
in
nevada
at
the
moment.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
If
we
can
go
next
to
any
callers
in
opposition
of
assembly,
bill
341-
and
I
will
remind
callers
to
please
clearly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record
as
well
as
limit
your
testimony
to
two
minutes
again
with
the
callers
that
were
previously
in
support,
as
well
as
those
that
are
in
neutral
and
opposition.
G
Your
written
comments
are
more
than
welcome
if
you
are
not
able
to
convey
your
either
support
opposition
or
neutral
testimony
within
that
two-minute
time
period.
We
would
definitely
encourage
you
to
do
that
within
24
hours
of
today's
meeting,
if
you
haven't
done
so
already
so
with
that,
I
will
go
to
colors
in
opposition
of
assembly
bill
341,
broadcast
services.
C
C
C
E
Greatest
assembly-
I'm
sorry
greg's
chair,
my
name
is
timothy
eliado
representing
the
nazi
enterprise,
and
I
am
speaking
in
opposition,
primarily
because
the
I
I
this
bill
does
not
include
any
pathway
to
ownership
for
minority
as
what
the
social
equity
basically
of
standing
there
supposed
to,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
should
not
be
used
under
the
guise
of
social
equity.
I
think
everything
that
has
been
amended
in
this
bill.
E
It's
intended
for
what
this
bill
was
intended
for,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
should
put
it
under
the
guy
under
any
the
umbrella
of
social
equities.
Real
social
equity
means
for
people
like
me,
who
basically
has
contributed
to
this
industry,
meaning
we
are
breeders,
all
these
brains,
that
you
have
in
these
stores,
where
at
one
point,
genetics
and
these
genetics
were
worked
on
by
people
like
myself.
E
People
like
myself
were
basically
cast
out
of
the
the
industry
and
to
say
that
all
these
lines
and
ceo
mme
holders,
basically
did
not
in
in
terms
of
my
mister.
What
large
comments
that,
where
of
this
this
bill
would
to
bear
in
mind,
that
is
to
help
the
you
know.
E
Social
equity
applicants
that
cannot
raise
capital,
but
the
the
point
is
this:
that
each
and
every
licensee
at
this
point
too
how
to
raise
money
to
be
able
to
establish
the
business
that
they
have
right
now
and
we
should
be
given
the
same
equal
opportunity,
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
very
disgraceful
act
and
we
should
have
a
sit
down.
This
is
something
that
is
being
passed
without
the
the
the
notice
of
the
community,
because
I
know
the
community
will
not
stand
behind
this.
E
Just
like
it's
for
so,
and
also
with
nrs453a
the
reasons
I
wasn't
able
to.
Basically,
we
were
not
able
to
sell.
Remember
that.
Let's
not
forget
that.
G
E
Yes,
I'd
like
to
wrap
up
is
this
please,
we
were
not
allowed
to
sell.
Let's
not
forget
that
we
have
no
other
choice
but
to
take
a
judiciary
act
right
now,
if
this
bill
does
not
include
real
pathway
to
to
basically
economics
of
sustainability
for
us
that
basically
help
build
this
industry.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
at
this
time.
Can
we
go
to
colors
in
neutral,
and
I
believe
we
have
some
people
on
the
zoom.
Mr
klemus.
Are
you
on
here
in
neutral,
are
just
available
for
questions.
G
Thank
you
if
we
can
go
to
the
callers
in
neutral
of
assembly
bill
341
again,
I
would
remind
you
to
clearly
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
again
I
would
encourage
anyone
that
I
I
hate
to
cut
people
off,
but
if
I
cut
you
off,
please
make
sure
that
you
submit
your
comments
in
writing.
I
know
that
our
committee
members
are
diligent
in
reading
those,
so
if
we
could
go
to
callers
in
neutral.
C
C
J
Good
morning
vice
chair
nguyen
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
my
name
is
alex
ortiz
a-l-e-x-o-r-t-I-z
today,
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
association
of
counties,
washoe
county
and
clark
county
collectively,
we're
all
in
neutral
on
assembly,
bill
341,
as
proposed
to
be
amended.
I
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
assemblyman,
yeager
and
scott
rutledge
for
hearing
our
concerns
and
working
to
address
them
in
a
future
amendment.
I
want
to
mention
the
importance
of
the
local
licensing
and
approval
process
for
cannabis
establishment,
and
that
is
included
in
this
bill
for
consumption
lounges.
J
C
F
Good
morning,
chair
and
committee
members
for
the
record,
my
name
is
ariel
edwards,
a-r-I-e-l-l-e
e-d-w-a-r-d-s,
calling
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
north
las
vegas.
We
are
in
neutral.
We
would
like
to
thank
assemblyman
yeager
for
bringing
ab341
forward
and
working
with
us
on
the
amendment
language.
We
look
forward
to
continued
conversation.
Thank
you.
C
F
L-A-Y-K-E-M-A-R-T-I-N
good
morning,
chair
yeager
vice
chairwin
and
members
of
the
judiciary
committee,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada,
dispensary
association,
and
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
testify
in
neutral.
We
want
to
thank
sherry,
yeager,
scott
rutledge
and
the
chamber
of
cannabis
for
their
work
on
developing
this
new
license
type,
which
will
create
opportunity
and
increase
diversity
in
the
cannabis
industry.
We
are
grateful
for
their
continued
willingness
to
work
with
the
nda
as
this
concept
in
the
bill
have
evolved.
F
We
also
wanted
to
highlight
that
the
bill's
proponents
have
made
clear
that
education
and
training
of
employees
working
in
these
new
establishments
is
very
important,
and
the
nda
currently
provides
substantial
educational
programming
in
all
areas
of
the
cannabis
industry,
from
compliance
to
record
keeping
security,
hr,
employee
onboarding,
plant
sciences
and
so
on,
and
the
nda
can
be
a
partner
in
developing
training
to
educate
employees
in
this
new
area.
Thank
you.
C
F
Good
morning,
chairman
yeager
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
theresa,
hayes,
t-e-r-e-s-a
last
name
h-a-y-e-s,
I'm
the
environmental
health
program
manager
for
the
food
program
for
the
nevada,
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health.
I
am
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
this
morning.
Thank
you.
G
C
G
Seeing
that
we
have
some
additional
time
there
were
quite
a
few
poor
people
that
were,
I
anticipated,
might
be
here
to
testify
in
neutral
support
and
opposition.
But
based
on
that,
I
am
going
to
open
this
back
up
for
some
more
questions
to
see.
If
we
do,
I
know
that
I
cut
people
off
on
their
first
round
of
questions,
so
I'm
going
to
kind
of
go
back
around
there.
So
if
you
could
send
me
a
skype
message,
if
you
would
like
to
ask
a
follow-up
question
or
a
secondary
question,
that
would
be
wonderful.
G
F
Thank
you
so
much
vice
chair,
so
my
question
has
to
do
with
the
social
equity
applicant
and
and
defining
that-
and
I
see
here
that
the
board
is
going
to
be
set
up
and
they're
going
to
establish
guidelines
for
what
a
social
equity
applicant
is.
But
is
there
some
idea
what
that
will
look
like
because
it
says
people
that
have
been
harmed
by
the
cannabis
drug
laws?
So
could
that
be
somebody?
F
That's
had
a
felon
or
a
misdemeanor
with
cannabis
possession,
but
would
it
exclude
somebody
that
has
a
felon
or
a
misdemeanor
with
cannabis
that
maybe
had
another
crime
attached?
You
know,
along
with
that
of
burglary
or
assault,
or
is
there
some
idea
how
that
might
look
or
what
you
know
what
what
people
are
thinking
of
for
that.
A
This
is
steve
yeager
for
the
record
assemblywoman
kasama
that
there
will
still
be
excluders.
There
are
already
excluders
in
the
law
for
certain
types
of
felony
convictions
to
get
into
this
industry,
and
I
don't
have
that
at
the
tip
of
my
fingers.
But
I
will
get
that
for
you
and
you
know
I
think
it
might
be
worthwhile
if
he's
willing
to
have
executive
director
climus.
Maybe
just
talk
he's
not
really
here
in
any
position,
but
maybe
just
talk
about
how
he
would
envision
the
ccb
process
of
coming
up
with.
A
D
Thank
you
vice
chair,
thank
you,
tyler,
climbing
for
the
record
and
assembly
woman
and
jerry
yeager.
Thank
you
for
the
for
the
question
as
well,
and
so
you
know,
I
guess
I
would
say
this.
Social
equity
inclusion,
diversity
is
is
laid
out
in
the
public
policy
that
created
the
cannabis
compliance
board
in
85
33.
D
So
this
is
kind
of
already
part
of
our
charge,
as
as
the
board
always
was
going
to
be
and
and
the
role
of
the
advisory
commission,
which
is
the
12-member
commission
that
makes
recommendations
to
the
board,
will
be
to
study
this.
I
I
put
on
the
record
previously
that
one
of
the
first
actions
when
the
commission
begins
to
meet
likely
in
june
or
july
later
this
year
is,
is
going
to
be
to
create
a
subcommittee
on
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
D
What
that's
going
to
do
is
bring
in
the
kind
of
right
voices
to
discuss
these
issues
and
make
recommendations
around
not
only
if
this
bill
was
to
pass.
You
know
what
would
define
a
social
equity
applicant,
but
really
what
is
the
social
equity
direction
that
the
ccb
and
the
state
needs
to
take
to
ensure
that
that
we
are
focusing
on
diversity
and
inclusion?
F
Legislation
follow
up
chair
vice
chair,
go
ahead,
assemblywoman
kasama,
so
I
I
understand
that
the
building
the
guidelines,
but
mine
was
more
a
question
of
criminal
convictions
in
the
past
and
and
I'm
sure,
maybe
I
need
to
look
at
ab533,
but
how
that,
if,
if
it's
just
criminal
convictions,
the
past
are
strictly
like
possession
of
drugs
or
if
there's
criminal,
possession
or
you
know
criminal
activity
with
drugs
but
other
things
associated
with,
would
that
be
excluded?
Or
do
you
have
an
idea
about
that?.
D
Sure
stimulus,
tyler
klein
is
again
for
the
record.
Thank
you
so
currently,
there's
there
are
exclusions,
that's
a
class,
a
felony
which
is
listed
in
in
statute
and
then
or
or
two
or
more
felonies
or
two
felonies
are
excluded,
but
that
is
something
you
know,
although
listed
in
statute
now.
That
is
something
that
personally
with
the
ccp.
D
Our
advisory
commission
was
going
to
study
that
if
there
are
any
changes
that
may
need
to
be
recommended
recommended
out
of
that,
you
know
those
are
something
that
that
we'll
be
looking
at,
regardless
of
if
this
bill
passes
or
not.
F
H
Thank
you,
chairwin
vice
chairwin.
I
think
this
question
it
might
be
for
mr
klimas.
H
Is
there
any
discussion
being
had
as
to
whether
how
the
limits
on
licenses
for
lounges
for
current
dispensary
owners,
because
if
you
my
concern,
is
if
you're
trying
to
allow
this
new
category
of
lounge
license
and
every
dispensary
got
one,
then
that's
going
to
limit
who
could
come
into
the
market
as
a
lounge
licensee?
H
That
would
then
go
into
proximity.
How
many
feet
of
how
many
feet
apart?
They
could
be
whether
or
not
the
in
municipality
is
going
to
allow
so
many
in
their
communities.
H
So
I'm
kind
of
concerned
about
that
too,
because
quite
frankly,
they
would
have
the
advantage
both
financially
and
because
they
are
already
existing
and
because
they
had
the
benefit
and
the
advantage
when
they
received
their
initial
licenses
for
the
dispensaries.
So
that's
concerning
when
we're
talking
about
social
justice
and
equity,
is
that
even
going
to
allow
space
for
these
smaller
people
to
come
in
if
these
lounge,
if
the
dispensaries
already
have
the
foothold.
D
Similarly,
when
tyler
climbs
to
the
record-
and
thank
you
for
that
and
as
you
know,
the
ccb
shares
all
of
your
concerns
on
equity,
diversity
and
inclusion
in
the
industry,
but
you
know,
as
far
as
I'd
probably
defer
to
the
bill
sponsors
of
what
they
envisioned.
I
I
believe
they
had
mentioned
something
early
on
in
this
amendment
about
you
know
a
limit
on
on
the
number
of
lounges
that
an
owner
already
in
could
have.
But
again
I
I
guess
I
would
defer
to
their
vision
and
how
they
see
this.
H
Thank
you,
mr
klamas.
Madame
vice
chair,
maybe
I
should
have
directed
just
to
the
bill
sponsor
and
I
apologize
chair
yeager.
I
probably
should
just
ask
you
so
if
you
wouldn't
mind
I'd
appreciate
it
thanks.
H
B
Scott
rutledge
for
the
record
section
12,
we
amended
into
the
bill
subsection.
Four.
The
board
shall
not
issue
more
than
one
cannabis:
consumption
lounge
license
in
the
same
county
to
an
ownership
group
individual
or
an
individual,
with
an
ownership
stake
in
a
group.
The
idea
was,
if
you
do
have
a
there,
are
five
dispensaries
that
you
own
you're
not
going
to
open
up
five
lounges
you're,
going
to
pick
one
of
those
locations
to
locate
co-locate
your
lounge.
B
The
same
would
apply
on
the
independent
side
that
someone
couldn't
come
in
and
open
up,
eight
or
nine
lounges.
They
can
only
open
up
one.
We
definitely
want
to
continue
to
work
on
this.
I
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
aclu
this
week,
and
certainly
there
are
others
that
I'm
communicating
with
about
how
we
might
address
this
both
further
in
statute.
B
Obviously,
we
know
the
ccb
where
they
stand,
what
their
directive
is
and
then
also
how
this
would
impact
local
ordinances.
While
certainly,
we
appreciate
the
neutral
testimony
from
mr
ortiz
earlier.
We
do
want
to
ensure
that
local
ordinances
represent
the
spirit
and
intent
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here.
In
terms
of
allowing
for
these
licenses
to
be
given
and
spread
out,
not
just
to
retailers
or
those
with
the
necessary
resources
today,
but
how
we
allow
for
social
equity
applicants
to
get
into
this
industry.
F
Thank
you,
mada
vice
chair
for
a
second
chance
kind
of
following
up
on
my
colleague,
assemblywoman
summers:
armstrong!
F
Lounges,
we
know
that
with
the
dispensary
that
the
licensing
is
exorbitantly
high,
the
the
fees,
the
price
and
that
the
process
was
flawed.
I
know
I
know,
there's
changes
being
made
and-
and
I
know
that's
been
a
big
job
for
you
to
tackle
mr
climates
and
appreciate
your
work
so
with
the
the
standalones.
Do
we
have
any
indication
how
it
you
know
going
to
this
equity
issue?
F
D
Assuming
the
woman,
the
entire
clinical
director
was
that
directed
at
me.
I
apologize
well.
F
Whoever
would
be
familiar,
I'm
thinking,
maybe
you
on
the
licensing
side,
how
how
expensive
it
is
to
get
the
dispensary.
How
do
we
have
any
indication
how
expensive
it's
going
to
be
for
stand-alone
consumption,
lounges.
D
Sure-
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
question
tyler
klein
is
for
the
record
and
I
I
again
the
bill
sponsors
can
jump
in
here.
I
believe
what
this
envisions
well,
it
allows
for
the
board
to
promulgate
the
regulations
around
so
allows
the
board
to
set
whatever
fee
that
that
that
the
board
feels
is
is
is
adequate
for
for
this
kind
of
license
type
either
or
whether
it
be
this,
this
adjacent
model
or
a
independent.
D
However,
I
believe
the
bill
also
allows
for,
if
not
directs
the
board,
to
consider
reduced
fees
for
what
would
be
a
potential
social
equity
applicant
once
that
is
defined
as
well,
so
not
determined
as
as
we
sit
here
today
as
from
what
I
can
tell
with
the
bill,
but
something
that
the
board
would
would
consider
and
set
at
a
future
date.
F
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
and
then
just
lastly,
my
my
other
colleague,
mr
an
assemblyman,
orrin
likkler
brought
up
that
you
know.
Perhaps
these
lounges
haven't
been
completely.
You
know
very
a
big
demand
or
successful.
I'm
just
curious.
Is
this
more
business,
driven
that
that
the
market
is
being
you
know
we're
approaching
this
because
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
business
opportunity,
but
there's
not
necessarily
the
consumer.
F
I
didn't
hear
a
lot
of
that
on
the
testimony.
It
seemed
like
a
lot
of
business
was
interested
but
didn't
hear
a
lot
of
testimony
on
the
consumer
about
lounges
scott.
B
I
Thank
you
vice
chairwin,
john
hudak,
for
the
record.
It's
an
excellent
question.
We
have
a.
We
have
a
situation
in
which
we
have
had
past
states
go
down
this
road
with
with
little
success,
because
either
market
demand
wasn't
there
or
more
likely.
I
The
establishments
were
not
meeting
market
demand
in
the
places
where
they
were
desired.
What
we
know
about
nevada
in
particular,
is
that
there
are
enormous
groups
of
individuals
who
can
be
disenfranchised
from
the
use
of
cannabis,
the
use
of
legal
cannabis
because
of
their
housing
situation.
Now
that
exists
in
other
areas
as
well.
In
other
parts
of
the
country,
there
may
be
more
or
less
permissiveness
about
the
use
of
cannabis
in
domiciles
that
maybe
are
not
owned,
or
there
is
a
greater
willingness
of
individuals
to
just
skirt
the
rules.
I
I
First,
we
know
that
there
are
firm
rules
in
place
in
nevada,
like
in
other
states,
about
the
use
of
cannabis
products
that
are
non-edibles
in
hotel
rooms
in
public
in
casinos
and
elsewhere,
and
that
obviously
creates
challenges
for
tourists
seeking
to
use
the
substance
in
a
legal
way.
At
the
same
time,
in
a
very
basic
way,
we
know
it's
true
in
southern
nevada.
We
know
it's
true
in
northern
nevada
as
well.
I
Is
that
you
know
visitors
to
the
state
come
to
the
state
to
engage
in
activities
that
they
perhaps
do
not
engage
in
elsewhere
at
home
or
in
other
states,
and
so
by
setting
up
these
types
of
lounges,
it
can
funnel
a
tourism
demand
into
them
in
a
fairly
unique
way
that
really
isn't
necessarily
present
in
other
tourism
markets
around
the
country,
and
so
I
think
the
concerns
about
what
has
happened
in
other
states
is
our
legitimate
concerns.
I
But
I
think
the
the
tourism
model,
in
particular
for
the
state
of
nevada,
adds
to
what
is
an
existing
resident
based
demand
for
these
types
of
establishments
in
the
state.
F
G
I
would
encourage
you.
I
know
that
this
is
a
topic
that
there
are
lots
of
it's
complex.
Obviously,
we
started
hearing
some
of
this
discussion
last
session,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
the
build
sponsor
to
answer
any
further
questions
that
you
might
have
with
that.
I
will
go
next
to
assemblyman.
F
A
G
Okay,
this
is
the
last
call
for
questions.
I'm
looking
around
the
zoom
here
last
time
to
get
into
the
weeds
on
this.
G
Okay
with
that
get
my
mom
jokes
in
so
with
that,
I
will
turn
this
back
over
to
chair
yeager
for
any
kind
of
following
remarks.
I
don't
know
if
your
other
co-presenters
will
have
any
brief
remarks
too,
but
I
will
turn
it
over
to
you
to
direct
their
clothing.
A
Thank
you
better.
Vice
chair,
steve
yeager,
for
the
record.
My
only
regret
is
that
we
did
not
have
a
joint
hearing
with
the
senate
judiciary
committee
this
morning,
but
madame
by
sure,
if
you
would
allow
I'd
like
to
go
to
mr
rutledge,
I
think
to
make
some
concluding
remarks
and
then
I
think
I'll
bring
us
home
because
I
know
the
hour
is
late
and
we
have
to
get
the
floor
as
well.
So
mr
rutledge.
B
Chairman
yeager,
thanks
again
to
vice
chair
lynn
and
the
committee.
B
We
certainly
appreciate
the
time
and
opportunity
to
present
what
we
think
is
a
critical
piece
of
public
policy
for
the
state
of
nevada
has
been
stated
before
and
stated
today,
our
our
policy
of
where
may
I
consume
this
cannabis
I
purchased
legally
and
the
answer
being
not
here.
Well,
what
about
there?
Well,
not
there
either
that
that's
not
going
to
work
anymore.
B
We
wanted
to
be
thoughtful
and
also
allow,
for
you
know
more
opportunity
with
this
type
of
licensing.
We
admit
we
have
not
gotten
exactly
where
we'd
like
to
be
yet
with
the
language
in
the
bill.
We
certainly
you
know
understand
that
the
ccb
has
a
directive
and
again
we're
trying
to
focus
as
much
of
the
the
real
details
of
this
legislation
to
the
regulatory
process,
but
I
do
understand
some
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
raised
today.
B
And
again,
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
I
hope
you
saw
that
with
some
of
the
presenters
today
on
this
bill.
The
chamber
of
cannabis
represents
a
very
diverse
group
of
individuals
and
companies
that
work
in
the
cannabis
industry
in
nevada
when
they
asked
me
to
advise
them
in
this
process.
B
I
I
was
more
than
happy
to
start
off
in
that
role
and,
of
course,
we're
happy
to
be
representing
them
here
at
the
legislature,
but
I've
been
so
impressed
with
the
ideas,
their
passion
and
their
commitment
to
to
a
number
of
leading
ideas
in
in
what
we
should
be
doing
with
this
legislation.
So
I
wanted
to
say
thanks
again
to
tina
allman
and
nicole
befong
and
christina
thomas
for
for
being
here
today
and
the
other
presenters
and
again
to
thank
chairman
jaeger
for
allowing
us
to
participate
in
this
presentation
today.
A
And
thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
Thank
you
committee
members
and
I
likewise
want
to
thank
those
who
joined
us
on
the
zoom
today.
You
know
I
I
think
I
was
pretty
vocal,
that
I
was
fairly
disappointed
last
session
that
we
weren't
able
to
figure
this
issue
out.
There
were
a
lot
of
reasons
we
weren't
able
to
do
that,
but
here
we
are
two
years
later
and
I
I
just
can't
say
thank
you
enough
to
those
that
you
heard
from
including
mr
rutledge,
because
we
began
talking
about
this
issue.
A
You
know
years
ago
and
over
the
interim
I
had
a
lot
of
people
approach
me
and
say:
can
we
do
consumption
lounges,
and
I
had
one
question
for
those
folks
and
that
was
well.
How
do
we
do
it?
What
does
it
look
like?
I
need
ideas
because,
as
you've
heard
today
this
this
is
a
pretty
tricky
issue,
there's
a
lot
of
different
competing
interests
at
play,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
many
of
the
people
who
reached
out
to
me
said
yes.
A
Yes,
I
have
some
ideas,
I'll
get
those
to
you
and-
and
I
never
got
anything
until
the
chamber-
a
chamber
of
cannabis
and
mr
rutledge
pledged
to
help
and
that's
exactly
what
you
see
in
front
of
you-
and
you
know
mr
rutledge,
I
know-
has
been
working
legislator
like
ours
in
the
past
few
months
to
get
this
bill
ready,
and
I
know
that
because
I've
had
conversations
and
email
exchanges
with
them
well
into
the
night.
A
So
there's
still
work
to
be
done
here,
but
I
think
we
are
we're
heading
in
the
right
direction
and
I
have
full
confidence
that
we
can
get
this
right.
Obviously,
we
have
a
deadline.
That's
out
there
a
week
from
today,
but
no
matter
what
happens
with
that
deadline,
we're
going
to
continue
working
on
this
bill,
and
I
would
just
encourage
any
of
you
here
today
if
you've
heard
something
that
doesn't
sound
right.
A
If
you
have
suggestions,
if
you
have
additional
questions
I'll
make
myself
available,
mr
rutledge
is
probably
more
available
than
he
should
be,
but
he'll
be
happy
to
answer
those
questions
as
well,
and
I
just
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
I
think
the
time
is
now
for
us
to
do
this
and
to
do
it
right,
so
I
would
ask
for
your
support
for
assembly
bill
341.
G
Thank
you,
chair
yeager,
and
thank
you
to
all
of
our
presenters
for
your
patience
and
your
expertise
and
your
involvement
in
this
very
complicated
topic,
and
at
this
time
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
341,
and
I
will
turn
this
imaginary.
Dabble
back
to
chair
yeager
to
close
out
our
meeting.
A
A
Callers
on
the
public
comment
line
will
have
two
minutes
to
provide
public
comment.
Public
comment
is
a
time
to
raise
matters
of
a
general
nature
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
assembly
judiciary,
committee
bps.
Could
we
go
to
our
phone
lines
to
see
if
there's
anybody
there
who'd
like
to
give
public
comment
this
morning.
C
C
C
The
family
of
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
homicide
victim
joseph
michael
justin
is
demanding
the
immediate
resignation
of
captain
nicole
splinter,
the
immediate
termination
of
former
lvmpd
officer,
tommen
timothy
nicoday's
medical
retirement
and
the
immediate
return
of
justin's
joseph
justin's
belongings
to
his
family.
On
august
22
2017
joseph
justin
was
identified
as
a
burglary,
suspect
and
apprehended
by
officer
splinter
and
nicosodes
within
45
seconds.
Justin
was
gunned
down.
C
Witnesses
on
scene
stated
they
never
saw
justin
with
a
firearm
in
his
hand,
splinter
who
shot
first
claimed
she
saw
justin,
hold
a
pistol
to
his
temple
and
then
point
the
gun
at
her,
prompting
her
to
shoot
nico
nico,
sodes,
followed
her
and
fired.
Justin
was
shot
in
the
leg
in
the
back
and
died
from
his
wounds.
Splinter
is
currently
captain
and
the
bureau
commander
of
the
office
of
internal
oversight
and
constitutional
policing,
which
oversees
internal
investigations
of
police
homicides.
C
We
believe
police
should
not
be
able
to
investigate
themselves,
but
since
they
do,
investigations
shouldn't
be
led
by
someone
who
has
already
taken
someone
from
the
community
as
tax
pays,
we
pay
for
officers
pensions
in
the
spirit
of
fairness
and
integrity.
We
do
not
believe
we
should
have
to
pay
for
the
pensions
of
officers
who
commit
crimes.
Lvmpedia
had
13
years
to
return,
justin's
belongings
to
his
family,
yet
all
they
have
received
is
an
id
card.
The
family
is
demanding
immediate
return
of
his
belongings,
so
they
can
have
some
closure
and
continued
healing.
C
A
C
E
E
The
main
issue
is
the
barriers
I
have
I
had
started
asking
after
you
can.
E
I
just
wanted
to
include
for
the
record
that
nrx453a
made
it
possible
that
we
were
not
able
to
sell
any
any
cannabis
to
to
what
we
to
patients
at
that
time,
because
this
started
off
a
medical
establishment
and
as
a
medical
patient,
and
at
that
time
I
also
grew
and
then
the
genetics
that
we
provided
for
these
for
our
friends
and
family
and
patients
with
these
genetics
that
are
currently
right
now
in
these
shops
we
saw,
and
then
we
built
the
mme
licenses
right
from
the
very
beginning
after
the
when
they
received
the
alliances,
and
they
had
no
idea
what
to
do
next.
E
How
do
I
establish
what
kind
of
commercial
buildings
do
I
get
you
have?
We
literally
built
this
from
nothing?
It
was
a
trial
and
error,
and
then
we
worked
on
this,
but
unfortunately
we
were
marginalized
from
this
because
we
did
not
have
the
capital.
I
saw
my
friends
and
partners,
you
know
formed
msos
in
which
they
were
able
to
establish
capital
to
discrete
form
their
businesses.
E
I
was
not
able
to
even
get
my
banking
account
when
I
was
after.
I
was
basically
funded
even
by
the
u.s
state
foundation,
with
my
non-profit
organization,
which
was
chemical
wellness
at
that
time.
So
I
have
systematically
watched
our
system
grow
from
the
from
the
very
ashes
from
what
it
was
after
an
idea
when
we're
just
taking
you
know,
values
our
signatures
to
be
played
from
values.
E
E
Yes,
please,
oh
I'm
saying
please,
let's,
let's
I'm
willing
and
ready
to
basically
speak
on
issues
that
that
we
need
to
address,
to
move
on,
to
be
able
to
make
a
pathway,
a
clear
pathway
for
for
people
that
were
marginalized
in
this
industry
that
have
experience
to
provide
to
this
industry,
because
that's
what
we
have
done
from
the
very
beginning,
and
I
believe
that
we
should
be
able
to
still
be
be,
be
financially
stable
and
be
able
to
also
provide
our
experience
with
this
industry,
because
we
do
everything,
but
still
don't
have
the
capital
and
and
yep
to
wrap
it
up.
E
So
I
just
like
to
say
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
day.
Thank
you.
A
C
Yes,
chair
caller
with
the
last
three
digits
of
seven
four
zero:
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
have
two
minutes
and
they
begin
hi.
This
is
katrina
saunders
for
the
record,
k-a-t-r-e-e
last
name
s-a-u-n,
and
I
would
just
like
to
thank
you
guys
for
your
time
and
reiterate
what
timothy
elliado
had
said.
C
We
have
been
here
from
the
beginning
and
been
disenfranchised
systematically
left
out
and
we
still
have
helped
build
an
industry
and
we
are
just
asking
to
have
a
seat
at
the
table
to
sit
down
to
speak
to
legislation
and
to
get
our
viewpoint
so
that
we
can
come
to
terms
of
what
real
social
equity
looks
like
in
the
state
of
nevada.
It
includes
ownership
of
dispensaries,
labs
cultivation
also
as
well
as
lounges.
C
We
should
not
be
left
out
in
that
discussion
to
build
sustainable
generational
wealth.
These
things
are
needed
just
how
they
are
in
every
other
state,
with
social
equity.
You
can
sit
down
with
other
lawmakers
from
massachusetts
from
california
that
actually
have
these
regulations
put
into
place
for
social
equity
applicants.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful,
so
I
would
like
to
sit
down
this
week
in
regards
to
this.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
This
is
katrie
saunders.
A
C
A
Thank
you
bps,
as
always
appreciate
your
help
and
getting
us
through
the
the
callers
on
the
line.
I
will
close
public
comment.
Anything
else
from
committee
members
this
morning,
don't
see
anything
else.
Obviously
it's
been
a
very
long
week
in
judiciary
so
again
want
to
thank
all
of
you.
Our
work
is
not
yet
done
next
week
is
likely
to
be
just
as
busy,
if
not
busier
than
this
week.
We
have
agendas
out
monday.
Through
thursday
there
will
be.
Eight
o'clock
starts
each
of
those
days.
A
We
have
anywhere
from
two
to
three
bills
scheduled
at
the
moment,
and
just
so
everyone
knows
I
do
anticipate
having
a
meeting
on
friday.
There
will
likely
just
be
work
session
and
we
might
have
several
meetings
on
friday,
so
we'll
try
to
process
bills
as
we
can
throughout
the
week,
but
please
get
some
rest
on
this
holiday
weekend
because
we're
probably
going
to
need
it
next
week.
So
again,
thank
you,
judiciary
committee.
I
hope
you
all
have
a
great
weekend
and
we'll
see
you
back
here
in
this
committee
at
8
o'clock
on
monday
morning.