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From YouTube: 2/4/2021 - Joint Meeting of the Assembly and Senate Committees on Legislative Operations & Elections
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A
Chair
broadcast
is
ready
and
you
may
call
the
meeting
to
order.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
would
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
welcome
everyone
good
afternoon.
Welcome
to
our
first
joint
meeting
of
both
and
senate
committees
on
legislative
operations
and
elections.
We
are
glad
to
welcome
members
of
the
senate
that
are
joining
us
today.
A
We,
our
two
committees,
actually
have
the
coveted
luxury
of
being
scheduled
to
meet
within
a
half
hour
of
each
other,
so
we
are
able
to
take
advantage
of
our
schedule
time
and
and
join
and
have
joint
committees
when
appropriate.
So
we
thought
for
the
first
few
committee
meetings
that
will
be
primarily
presentations
that
I
think
we
all
understand
the
benefit
to
all
of
us,
including
our
presenters,
to
be
in
a
being
able
to
join
together.
A
So
before
I
go
any
further,
I
would
like
to
invite
my
fellow
chair
on
the
senate
side,
senator
orenshaw,
who
is
also
chair
of
legislative
operations
and
elections
on
the
senate
side.
If
you
would
like
to
make
any
opening
remarks
well,
I
want
to
thank
chairwoman
miller
and
all
the
members
of
your
committee.
You
know
I
was
real
honored
to
get
to
serve
on
that
committee
in
the
past.
A
I
I
was
able
to
chair
that
committee
too,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
good
work
that
your
committee
does
and
I'm
really
glad
we
can
work
together
and
try
to
hear
some
of
these
presentations
together.
I
hope
we
can
have
more
joint
sessions
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
So
much.
Madam
secretary
plea,
please
call
the
role
for
the
members
of
the
senate
and
then
the
assembly
committee
members
senator
buck.
A
A
Here
and
if
we
have
any
members
that
are
not
here,
please
mark
them
present
when
they
arrive
again.
I'd
also
extend
a
welcome
to
those
viewing
the
meeting
online
and
those
participating
by
phone
and
video
before
we
continue
I'd
like
to
address
a
few
housekeeping
items
again.
A
Committee
members,
please
remember
to
have
your
cameras
on
during
the
course
of
the
meeting
and
feel
free
to
when,
when
it's
appropriate
time
to
ask
in
or
make
a
comment
that
if
you
would
want
to
wave
your
hand
or
send
me
a
message
on
chat
to
do
that
to
be
recognized
for
members
of
the
public.
If
you
wish
to
provide
public
comment,
please
make
sure
that
you
pre-register
online
through
the
link
provided
in
this
agenda
for
today's
meeting
registration.
A
When
the
agenda
is
posted
to
the
nevada,
legislature's
website
and
upon
registration,
you
will
receive
a
telephone
number
meeting
id
and
the
instructions
for
joining
the
meeting
so
that
we
ensure
that
we
have
accurate
records
of
everyone
participating.
We
ask
that
you
don't
share
that
information
but
encourage
anyone
else.
You
know
that
wants
to
participate
to
register
individual
line
for
anyone
testifying.
We
will
ask
that
you
unmute
and
to
speak
and
then
again
mute
to
listen.
A
As
with
everyone
participating.
We
asked
that
you
make
sure
that
your
cell
phones
and
other
devices
are
turned
off
or
the
volume
turned
off
so
that
it's
not
a
distraction
with
that.
We
will
go
ahead
and
move
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
our
presentations.
A
Our
first
presentation
today
begins
with
a
presentation
from
the
secretary
of
state.
Later
we
will
hear
from
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics.
So
first
I'd
like
to
welcome
our
presenters
from
secretary
of
state,
which
is
nevada
secretary
of
state,
barbara
zagaski,
zagaski
and
deputy
secretary
of
state
for
elections
mark
leschin.
A
I
believe
I
said
that
right.
Please
correct
me.
If
I
didn't
and
one
question
that
I
do
have
for
our
presenters
is:
if
would
you
like
to.
A
Go
through
the
entire
presentation
before
we
stop
and
ask
questions,
or
would
you
like
us
to
ask
questions
throughout
if
we
could
do
the
presentation,
madam
chair,
that
would
that
would
be
very,
very
good.
Okay,
that's
what
we'll
do
secretary!
Thank
you!
Okay,
well
good
afternoon,
chair
orrin,
shaw
and
chair
miller
and
members
of
both
committees
for
the
record.
I
am
nevada
secretary
of
state,
barbara
sagaski,
and
it
is
a
pleasure
to
be
here
today
and
present
with
me.
Today
are
my
chief
deputy
scott
anderson
and
elections,
deputy
mark
velashan.
A
It
does
look
like
it
starts
with
a
w,
but
it's
pronounced
with
a
v,
so
it's
velocion
and
we
are
happy
to
give
you
an
overview
of
the
secretary
of
state's
office
and
its
role
in
the
nevada
elections,
and
I
wanted
to
reassure
you
that
our
elections
are
always
conducted
in
accordance
with
all
federal
and
state
laws.
As
I
have
stated
on
numerous
occasions,
we
take
every
election
integrity
violation,
complaint
seriously
and
investigate
all
allegations,
but
to
this
day
we
have
seen
no
evidence
of
widespread
voter
fraud
or
voting
machine
errors
in
nevada.
A
I
highly
I
highlighted
that
because
during
the
next
116
days
there
will
be
many
discussions
about
the
future
of
nevada's
elections,
and
if
you
have
questions,
please
let
us
know
we
have
a
fax
versus
myth
document
on
our
website
that
you
may
find
helpful
to
provide
clarity.
It's
located
on
nvsos.gov.
A
Additional
duties
have
been
added
over
time
and
range
from
the
chief
officer
of
elections
to
register
of
business
entity
filings
to
administrator
of
the
uniform
securities
act.
The
office
of
the
secretary
of
state
is
organized
into
eight
main
divisions.
We
have
elections,
which
everybody
knows
the
most.
We
have
commercial
recordings
securities
notary
special
projects
which
include
managing
document
preparation,
services,
domestic
partnership,
nevada,
lock,
box,
business
portal,
executive,
administrative
administration
and
operations
division.
A
Our
main
offices
are
located
in
carson
in
the
capitol
building
the
myers-annex
across
the
street
and
the
blaisdell
building.
We
also
have
an
office
in
city
hall,
building
in
north
las
vegas,
and
I
would
like
to
now
turn
the
presentation
over
to
mark
veloshan,
my
deputy
for
elections,
for
the
remainder
of
the
presentation.
A
Thank
you
to
the
chair,
orenshaw
and
chair
miller
afternoon,
chair
orange
shawl
and
chair
miller
and
committees.
My
name
is
mark
velashin
and
I
am
the
deputy
secretary
of
state
for
elections
over
the
next
33
slides.
I
will
cover
the
secretary
of
state's
elections,
division,
our
roles
and
responsibilities
and
information
about
past
and
ongoing
projects.
A
Nrs
293.124
directs
the
secretary
of
state
to
act
as
chief
officer
of
elections
for
the
state
and
makes
her
responsible
for
the
execution
and
enforcement
of
the
provisions
of
title
24
of
nrs
and
all
other
provisions
of
federal
and
state
law
relating
to
elections
in
this
state
established
to
assist
her
in
these
duties.
The
elections
division
consists
of
15
and
a
half
positions.
A
These
positions
include
11,
full-time
equivalent
positions,
two
of
which
are
currently
vacant
and
frozen
four
contractors
and
one
part-time
compliance
investigator.
Who
also
supports
the
office's
commercial
recordings
division
of
note.
Five
of
our
current
employees
are
veterans,
but
all
of
us
are
united
in
our
dedication
to
our
integrity
and
strict
adherence
to
the
elections,
processes
prescribed
by
federal
and
state
law.
A
C
Additional
200
000
inactive
voters.
It
is
important
to
clarify
what
that
means
to
be
an
active
registered
voter
simply
means
that
we
have
verified
the
address
for
these
voters.
An
inactive
voter
means
that
we
have
received
a
returned
piece
of
elections,
mail
that
was
identified
as
being
undeliverable
or
a
voter
has
failed
to
respond
to
a
confirmation
notice
from
the
county
clerk.
In
fact,
it
is
possible
to
be
an
active
voter
without
having
voted
in
the
past
decade.
C
D
Voter
turnout
for
the
2020
general
election
was
also
higher
than
in
years
past.
This
highlights
how
effective
our
current
state
laws
are
at
facilitating
and
encouraging
voters
to
vote
in
a
manner
they
choose
and
are
comfortable
with,
even
during
a
pandemic
election
day,
voter
turnout
fell
approximately
50
because
of
such
a
large
number
of
voters
voted
by
mail
and
because
of
turnout
during
early
voting.
D
A
further
analysis
of
voter
turnout
over
the
last
20
years
indicates
a
continuing
trend
away
from
election
day
voting
and
towards
early
and
mail-in
ballot
voting
in
2020.
This
was
at
least
partly
due
to
the
passing
of
ab4,
which,
due
to
the
governor's
declaration
of
emergency,
directed
that
a
mail-in
ballot
be
sent
to
every
active
registered
voter.
B
A
And
further
prescribed
by
av-345,
it
was
implemented
in
january
2020.
It
resulted
in
the
registration
of
eligible
voters
through
automated
processes,
which
conducted
conducting
specific
while
conducting
specific
transactions
at
the
department
of
motor
vehicles.
The
process
also
identifies
individuals
not
eligible
and
filters
them
out.
No
further
enhancements
or
progress
has
been
made
since
the
initial
implementation
due
to
budget
reductions
and
the
coven
19
pandemic.
A
The
most
significant
impacts
to
the
2020
general
election
came
from
assembly
bill
4
of
the
32nd
special
session,
which
required
the
distribution
of
mail-in
ballots
to
all
active
registered
voters.
We
saw
the
impact
on
voter
turnout
in
the
previous
slides,
but
we'll
need
to
wait
to
see
this
mandated
exposure
to
mail-in
ballots
is
something
nevada.
Voters
continue
to
request
in
future
elections,
while
the
last
bullet
identifies
that
37
percent
of
the
mailed
out
ballots
were
actually
returned.
A
This
represented
a
full
48
of
the
total
ballots
cast
during
the
2020
general
election,
the
requirement
to
mail,
ballots,
cost
taxpayers,
approximately
2.6
million
dollars
or
roughly
1.46
per
ballot.
It
is
also
important
to
note
that
the
impacts
of
ab4
were
not
limited
to
the
2020
general
election
alone.
The
upcoming
boulder
city
election
has
also
been
identified
as
an
affected
election
and
will
require
the
same
distribution
of
mail-in
ballots
to
all
voters,
as
well
as
any
future
election
deemed
an
affected
election
due
to
a
declared
state
of
emergency.
A
We
have
also
identified
that
the
process
by
which
the
county
clerks
conduct
voter
registration
list
maintenance
needs
to
be
better
explained
to
the
general
public.
This
process
is
mandated
by
a
combination
of
federal
and
state
laws.
As
it
currently
stands,
the
elections
division
receives
information
from
the
agencies
listed
on
the
slide,
and
we
in
turn
provide
that
information
to
the
county
clerks
who
then
act
upon
that
information.
A
It
happens
this
way
because
the
voter
registrations
are
maintained
in
each
county,
as
such
nevada's
system
is
considered
a
bottom-up
system,
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
transitioning
to
a
top-down
system
where
the
voter
registrations
will
be
centralized
with
the
state.
Once
this
system
is
completed,
the
office
will
be
able
to
play
a
much
more
active
role
in
list
maintenance.
A
A
E
D
Vote
dot
register
to
vote.
Nv.Gov
is
the
application
through
which
eligible
citizens
are
able
to
register
to
vote
since
its
creation
in
2010,
more
than
787
000
individuals
registered
online
of
note.
The
eligible
eligibility
of
these
individuals
was
automatically
verified
by
the
dmv
and
social
security
administration.
D
Here
are
the
online
registration
statistics
for
the
2020
election
cycle
on
the
top
and
specific
to
just
the
2020
general
election
at
the
bottom.
These
numbers
highlight
the
importance
of
offering
this
online
service
for
new
registrations
and
for
updates,
which
help
voters
maintain
the
accuracy
of
their
voter
registration
and
their
status
as
an
active.
A
Who
are
currently
serving
in
the
military
or
who
are
living
overseas?
Federal
laws
provide
voting
protections
for
uniformed
service
members.
Their
family
members
and
citizens
residing
outside
the
united
states
ease
enables
them
to
register,
to
vote
request
the
ballot
and
to
send
an
encrypted
file
to
their
county
clerk.
That
indicates
for
whom
they
would
like
to
vote.
More
than
1200
individuals
were
able
to
to
vote
during
this
election
cycle.
Using
the
e's
system.
A
A
Election
security
is
increasingly
complex.
Fortunately,
we
are
part
of
a
strong
network
of
organizations
dedicated
to
ensuring
fair
and
secure
elections.
The
elections,
integrity
task
force
is
a
critical
part
of
our
effort
to
ensure
the
security
of
our
elections,
comprised
of
a
number
of
federal
and
state
law
enforcement
agencies.
The
elections,
integrity
task
force
formally
meets
and
collaborates
each
election
with
all
members
maintaining
routine.
B
A
We
request
and
use
grants
to
enhance
our
security.
We
have
joined
organizations
that
share
election
specific
security
information,
including
the
elections,
infrastructure,
information
sharing
and
analysis
center
or
eiisac,
and
the
national
association
of
secretaries
of
state
and
work
with
numerous
state
and
federal
agencies.
A
E
A
C
C
The
next
three
slides
describe
applications
and
programs
that
also
help
facilitate
or
educate
the
public
about
nevada's
elections.
The
first
is
aurora
an
application
that
enables
the
mandated
filing
of
campaign
finance
documents.
The
site
is
used
by
candidates
to
file
contributions
and
expenses
reports,
as
well
as
enabling
the
public
full
transparency.
E
Finances
senate
bill
557
of
the
2019
legislative
session,
revised
the
requirements
for
campaign
finance
reporting.
These
changes
went
into
effect
on
january
1st
of
2020..
There
was
a
reduction
in
fines
collected
during
the
2020
election
cycle.
We
attribute
this
higher
level
of
compliance
due
to
a
more
determined
outreach
program
instituted
by
the
elections,
division.
E
A
A
A
A
A
There
are,
as
of
our
last
count,
27
elections
related
bdrs.
These
bdrs
cover
a
wide
range
of
topics.
It
should
be
noted
that,
in
addition
to
the
changes
that
will
result
from
this
session,
there's
already
a
major
elections
bill
going
through
congress
right
now,
if
passed,
house
resolution
1
or
hr
1
will
have
a
number
of
major
impacts
on
nevada
elections.
C
Thank
you
very
much
deputy
velashan
and
I'd
like
to
thank
the
legislature
for
their
continued
support
during
this
and
previous
election
cycles.
This
concludes
our
presentation
and
we
look
forward.
B
C
Thank
you,
secretary,
sagaski
and
deputy
secretary
of
velocin.
First,
we
know
that
there
wasn't
a
process,
a
system,
an
industry,
a
service
that
wasn't
impacted
due
to
covid
and
yet
again
the
response
and
the
efforts
from
your
office
were
definitely
recognized.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
for
the
patient.
Thank
you
much
chair
miller.
C
Thank
you.
I
know
that
we,
I
anticipate
some
questions
from
members,
so
I
would
like
to
open
it
up
to
questions
senators
and
assembly.
G
C
Deputy
for
the
presentation,
I
appreciate
how
hard
you
worked
during
the
last
year
during
the
pandemic,
trying
to
make
sure
that
people
could
could
exercise
their
right
to
vote
and
participate
in
our
our
democratic
institutions.
So
thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
and
having
to
be.
G
So
flexible
and
move
so
quickly,
two
questions:
I
have
the
full
provisional
ballots
that
we
instituted
this
year.
G
I
know
there
was
a
lot
of
you
know
worry
about
making
that
work,
and
I
just
wondered
how
how
you
know
the
secretary's
office
and
the
registrars
found
that
that
worked,
and
then
the
transition
to
a
top-down
voting
system
through
the
years
we've
heard
that
that
will
really
solve
a
lot
of
problems,
and
I
wondered
how
far
off
in
the
horizon
do
you
think
we
are
to
getting
to
that
top
down
system
and
what
kind
of
problems
do
you
think
that
will
solve
once
we
have
that?
G
Well,
first
of
all,
thank
you,
senator
oran
shaw
for
your
comments
and
we
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
answer
the
questions
I'm
going
to
let
my
deputy
mark
velocion
answer
those
two
questions,
because
he's
he's
the
one
in
the
trenches
and
so
he'll
be
able
to
answer
that,
for
you
go
ahead
mark.
G
Thank
you,
madam
secretary
senator
oranjal,
thank
you
for
the
questions.
First
and
foremost,
to
make
sure
I
I
have
them
right.
First
question
is
about
provisional
ballots
and
how
that
process
went.
G
I
think
the
bottom
line,
and
the
big
takeaway
from
the
provisional
ballots
is
that
it
did
add
a
little
bit
of
of
stress
and
confusion,
not
so
much
to
the
clerks
who
were
aware
of
it
and
expecting
it,
but
really
to
the
public
and
understanding
the
impacts
of
the
additional
timelines
required
so
that,
as
these
provisional
ballots
were
cast
recognizing
that
we
needed
to
hold
on
to
them
and
make
sure
that
the
individuals
were
qualified
eligible
to
vote,
that
they
hadn't
registered
in
another
county
or
state,
or
had
to
maybe
even
tried
to
vote
in
another
state
or
county
that
added
a
little
bit
of
friction
to
it.
G
But
in
regards
to
the
the
processing
of
the
provisional
ballots
themselves
from
a
purely
technical
standpoint,
there
were
not
significant
issues
that
I
had
heard
about
at
any
rate
in
regards
to
the
transition
to
the
top-down
voter
registration
system
that
we
mentioned
earlier
during
the
presentation.
G
There's
a
few
factors
that
I
would
like
to
bring
to
your
attention.
First,
to
answer
you
up
front
the
the
timeline.
This
is
something
that,
unfortunately,
is
not
going
to
be
quick.
We've
discussed
this
process
and
a
transition
to
this
sort
of
top
down
registration
system
with
numerous
other
states
to
learn
some
of
their
lessons,
and
one
of
the
the
things
they
continue
to
repeat
is
don't
do
not
rush
the
process.
Do
not
assume
that
you
can
do
this
within
a
year
or
so.
G
The
goal
is
the
2024
or
2026
election
cycles,
but
a
lot
of
that's
going
to
be
contingent
upon
the
the
process
as
we
work
through
it.
The
first
step
in
the
process
that
is
underway
currently
at
least
we're
developing
the
rfp,
for
it
is
to
have
an
assessment
done.
We're
looking
to
have
somebody
examine
our
state
system
and
resources
to
see
if
it
make
more
sense,
to
use
a
commercial
off
the
shelf
program,
a
proprietary
system
that
we
develop
internally,
potentially
some
sort
of
hybrid.
G
So
there's
a
number
of
factors
that
we're
looking
at
in
making
sure
that
we
collect
and
capture
and
meet
all
of
the
county
and
state
requirements
so
again
to
your
timeline
again
a
few
years
at
the
very
least.
But
it
is
something
that
we're
doing
methodically
and
carefully
in
conjunction
with
not
only
the
county,
clerks
and
registrars,
but
numerous
other
stakeholders
to
make
sure
it's
done
properly.
The
first
time
recognizing
that
there
is
absolutely
zero
tolerance
for
this
to
go
wrong
as
we
move
into
another
election
cycle
whenever
that
may
be.
G
G
I
think
next
on
the
list
is
for
a
question
is
senator
buck.
G
G
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
your
question
is:
has
clark
county
submit
a
list
of
who
has
received
the
ballots
or
or
just
the
numbers,
or
I
guess,
usually
we're
able
to
see
who's
received
the
ballots
and
that
is
not
viewable
now
interesting.
I
was
not
aware
of
that
I'll.
Look
into
that
and
get
an
answer
to
you
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you
also.
Do
you
know
how
many
mail-in
ballots
you
sent
to
the
post
office
flagged
like
for
vacant
addresses
or.
G
Senator
yes,
yes,
I
do.
In
fact
I
have
that
information
right
here
in
front
of
me
from
the
2020
general
election.
The
number
of
mail
ballots
that
were
returned
is
undeliverable
or
a
bad
address
across
the
state
was
a
hundred
and
eighteen,
five
524.
G
G
Thank
you
very
much,
chairwoman
miller
and
I
think
my
questions
to
the
chief
deputy
and
I'm
not
sure
if
this
data
is
available.
Maybe
it's
something
I
should
circle
around
with
you
offline,
but
for
people
who
voted
by
mail
and
there
was
an
issue
with
their
ballot.
Maybe
signature
didn't
match
or
something
was
wrong
and
there
was
an
effort
to
contact
those
people
to
try
to
get
them
to
cure
the
problem
with
their
mail
ballot.
G
Is
there
any
data
as
to
how
that
compares
to
the
normal
absentee
ballot
process
were
more
ballots,
not
accepted,
and
I
mean
I
that's
that's
kind
of
the
worry
to
me
and
was
the
process
the
same
trying
to
cure
those
male
ballots
now,
if
a
signature,
you
know
didn't
exactly
match,
I'm
just
trying
to
reach
out
to
those
voters
versus
the
normal
absentee
process
in
the
past,
and
if
that
data
is
not
available,
I
can
circle
back
with
you
offline
and
get
that
para
oranshall.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
G
I
do
have
the
information
in
front
of
me
regarding
to
how
many
mail-in
ballots
required
a
signature
cure
as
well
as
how
many
we're
not
we
were
not
able
to
cure
through
the
routine
processes.
In
regards
to
your
comparison,
though,
I
I'd
love
to
get
back
to
you
about
that.
Comparing
the
process
from
the
2020
election
cycle
to
previous
mail-in
ballot
election
cycles
and
those
results.
G
Would
you
are
you
interested?
Would
it
be
helpful
to
have
the
information
now
that
I
have
in
front
in
regards
to
the
total
numbers
rejected
and
if
I
could
yes,
thank
you
certainly
of
the
email
and
ballots
that
we
sent
12
584
required
a
signature
cure,
which
is
approximately
1.8
of
the
mail-in
ballots
that
we
sent
out
during
the
2020
general
election
of
those
2887.
G
We
were
unable
to
get
cured,
that's
2887.
We
were
unable
to
get
cured
and
share
original.
As
I
mentioned,
I
will
follow
up
with
you
to
compare
that
to
other
previous
election
cycles.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
chief
jeopardy.
Thank
you,
chairwoman,
miller,
absolutely
chair.
Thank
you.
We
have
a
question
from
assemblywoman
dickman.
G
Thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair,
I
just
have
a
question.
I
mean
we
seem
to
have
a
real
issue
with
cleaning
up
our
voter
rolls
in
our
state,
and
I
was
wondering
if
anyone
could
explain
what
happened
with
the
clark
county,
inactive
voters
who
remained
on
the
mail
list
because
of
missing
the
deadline
for
removing
them
after
the
primary.
G
Thank
you,
the
question
assembly,
one,
the
the
bottom
line
is
that
we
missed
the
90-day
blackout.
There's
a
federal
law
requiring
all
voter
lists,
all
voter
registration
list
maintenance
to
end
90
days
prior
to
any
election,
any
federal
election.
That
maintenance
was
done,
unfortunately,
two
or
three
days
after
that
blackout,
which
is
why
it
had
to
be
reversed
to
make
sure
that
those
names
were
on
the
list
and
then
received
ballots
as
they
previously
would
have
met,
follow
up
adam
cheer.
G
Yes,
please!
So
what
caused
that
delay?
Someone?
I
don't
have
those
details
in
front
of
me.
I
would
have
to
confer
with
the
registrar
of
voters
in
clark
county
to
find
out
the
specific
details.
I
will
do
so
and
get
back
to
you
in
a
timely
manner.
Great
thanks.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
have
that
information.
G
Thank
you,
you're
welcome.
Thank
you
and
deputy
I'd
also
like
to
just
to
request
that
any
information
again
that
you
send
that
you
send
to
our
committee
staff
so
that
we
can
disseminate
it
to
members
of
both
committees,
absolutely
sure
miller.
Thank
you
with
that.
We
have
a
question
from
senator
lang.
G
Thank
you,
chair
miller.
My
question
is:
if
we
go
when
we
transition
to
a
top-down
system,
will
that
will
we
get
our
results
of
the
elections
in
a
more
timely
manner?
G
Thank
you,
senator
lane,
for
the
question
in
regards
to
the
top
down
system
that
actually
will
not
affect
the
timelines
associated
with
the
election.
There
are
numerous
things
that
will
a
top-down
voter
registration
system
will
help,
but
the
current
statutes
are
what
drive
provisional
ballots,
the
the
fact,
for
example,
that
mail-in
ballots
can
be
postmarked
on
election
day
that
mandates
a
certain
amount
of
time
after
the
election
to
allow
those
ballots
to
come
in
then
allow
us
to
process
it.
So
there
will
still
be
a
delay.
G
It
will
likely
be
a
day
or
two
faster
in
regards
to
our
ability
to
compare
the
provisional
ballots
against
others
to
make
sure
that
again,
nobody
is
registered
twice.
That
process
will
go
a
little
bit
faster,
but
there
will
still
be
a
delay
and
the
results
will
not
be
certified
on
election
night.
I
think,
may
I
have
a
second
question.
G
Yes,
senator.
Thank
you,
chair
miller.
My
second
question
is:
what
other
states
around
us
have
a
top-down
system?
Does
california
have
a
top-down?
G
Thank
you
for
the
question,
senator
it's
my
understanding
that
we're
one
of
four
states
in
the
union
who
do
not
have
a
top-down
voter
registration
system.
I
will
confirm
that,
though,
and
include
that
my
information
that
I
provide
to
the
staff.
G
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
chair
miller,
you're,
welcome
and
I'd
also
just
like
to
let
all
the
members
of
both
of
our
committees
know
that
we
actually
will
have
presentations
from
the
election
officials
on
tuesday.
So
if
there's
quite
some
of
these
specific
questions
that
you
may
have
that
are
more
specific
to
the
elections
that
they
may
will
may
be
more
appropriate
to
answer
and
respond
to
on
tuesday,
so
that
you
know
that's
ahead,
I
will
take
one
final
follow-up
question
from
senator
buck.
G
Thank
you,
chair
miller.
I
I
guess
I
can
ask
again
on
on
tuesday
when
we
reconvened,
but
I
just
wondered
you
know
when
I
was
out
knocking
on
doors
in
the
campaign.
I'd
come
across,
you
know
asking
for
a
voter
and
then
the
voter
was
had
passed
away
and
it
was
a
little
awkward.
G
G
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
again
apologize
mark
velasco,
deputy
secretary
of
state
for
elections
for
the
record
senator
your
question
about
is
ultimately
about
list
maintenance
and
the
process,
and
I
think
to
answer
you
directly.
Yes,
we
do
coordinate
with
the
bureau
of
vital
statistics
and
social
security
administration,
the
dmv,
to
get
the
information
about
individuals
across
the
state
who
are
deceased,
so
we
can
remove
them
from
the
voter
rolls
that
is
a
process.
It's
one
of
many
that
are
part
of
our
list
maintenance
process.
G
I
find
that
folks
get
surprised
in
some
cases
when
we
tell
them
that
list
maintenance
is
an
ongoing,
constant
process.
In
fact,
we
did
it
last
night.
We
do
it
every
night.
In
fact,
there's
a
number
of
agencies
that
provide
information
to
us.
We
take
that
information.
We
make
sure
that
we
get
it
to
the
counties
and
then
they're
able
to
act
on
it.
There's
other
processes,
including
our
again
involvement
with
the
eric
program,
the
electronic
registration
information
center,
where
they
send
us
information
every
other
month.
G
That
also
again
includes
some
of
that
information.
So
so
there
are
numerous
ways
that
we
get.
This
information,
as
you
had
mentioned,
there
are
clearly
indications
that
there
are
people
or
individuals
who
are
getting
through
the
cracks.
Somehow
that's
something
that
the
secretary
has
asked
us
to
look
very
critically
at
and
see
if
there's
not
again
a
means
for
us
to
improve
or
somehow
ensure
that
our
list
maintenance
is
being
done
properly
and
as
thoroughly
and
effectively
as
it
needs
to
be.
G
You
deputy,
thank
you,
chair
miller,
so
much
thank
you.
You're
welcome,
thank
you
and
with
that
I
don't
see
any
other
questions
right
now
from
any
committee
members.
So
again,
I'd
like
to
thank
secretary,
zagaski
and
deputy
velashin
for
your
presentation
and
for
joining
us
today,
and
with
that
I
will
close
this
agenda
item
as
we
move
on
to
one
thing.
Thank
you,
chair
miller.
G
Thank
you.
Our
next
agenda
is,
we
will
have
a
presentation
from
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics.
We
are
pleased
to
have
executive
director,
yvonne
navares,
goodson
and
commission
council
tracy
chase,
and
so
I
will,
as
you
are
I'll,
give
you
a
moment
to
prepare
to
present.
But
I
will
ask
the
same
question:
do
you
prefer
that
we
wait
until
the
end
of
the
your
presentation
questions
or
are
there
certain
segments
within
your
presentation
that
you
would
stop
and
like
us
to
ask.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
are
you
able
to
hear
me?
I
am
yes,
terrific!
Thank
you.
This
is
ivan
navares
goodson
for
the
record.
I
think
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
if
something
comes
up
in
the
middle
of
the
presentation,
but
otherwise
I
think
it'll
be
a
fairly
brief
overview
and
I'd
be
happy
to
take
questions
at
the
end.
G
Okay,
then,
why
don't
we
do
this,
because
you
know
your
presentation,
the
best
that
at
certain
where
you
feel
it's
an
appropriate
section,
that
if
you
stop
and
notify
us
that
you're
ready
to
take
questions,
we
can
we
can
proceed
that
way.
You
bet,
I
would
be
happy
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
okay.
Well,
thank
you
again,
madam
chair
also
chair,
orrin,
shaw
and,
and
members
of
both
committees.
G
It's
it's
my
pleasure
to
present
to
you
today
an
overview
of
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics
and
the
ethics
and
government
law.
G
I'd
like
to
also
introduce
to
you
today,
our
commission
council,
tracy,
chase
tracy
chase,
has
been
with
the
commission
now
for
a
little
over
six
years
and
and
the
reason
for
me
embellishing
a
little
bit
on
my
introduction
of
commission
council
chase-
is
that
I
wanted
to
introduce
her
because
I've
decided
to
take
another
position,
and
so
I'm
only
going
to
be
with
the
commission
now
for
approximately
another
week
and
tracy
will
become
the
face
of
the
commission
in
terms
of
any
interaction
she
might
have
with
the
legislature,
including
any
bill
presentations
that
the
commission
expects
to
put
forward.
G
So
I
can't
speak
tracey's
praises
enough
she's
super
tremendous
she's,
really
competent
and
professional,
and
has
an
utmost
knowledge
about
the
commission's
history
and
and
also
where
we're
expecting
to
go
and
hope
to
go
with
the
legislature's
input.
G
And
with
that
madam
chair
I'd
like
to
provide
in
today's
presentation
a
general
overview
of
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics,
including
sort
of
where
we
came
from.
Why
do
we
have
ethics
law
in
general
and
and
where
the
the
commission
stands
now
with
our
existing
sort
of
caseload
and
where
we
hope
to
go
this
session
with
the
insights
of
our
colleagues
and
legislators
here
in
both
of
these
committees
and
so
to
jump
off
here,
the
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics
is
an
eight-member
public
body.
G
G
The
entire
role
of
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics
is
essentially
to
interpret
and
enforce
the
nevada,
ethics
and
government
law,
which
is
set
forth
in
nrs
chapter
281a,
primarily
that
chapter
governs
conflicts
of
interest
for
public
officers
and
public
employees
a
little
bit
of
history
about
why
we
exist
at
all.
Where
did
ethics
laws
even
come
from
and
the
real
history
and
where
nevada's
ethics
law
derived
from
was
the
aftermath
of
the
watergate
scandal
in
the
1970s?
G
As
a
result
of
that
scandal,
in
the
1970s,
the
federal
government
got
together
and
enacted
the
ethics
and
government
act
of
1978..
The
entire
goal
at
that
juncture
was
really
to
implo,
impose
financial
disclosures.
They
wanted
the
the
in
the
interested
parties
and
public
servants
at
that
point
to
be
able
to
disclose
their
financial
interest,
so
the
public
would
have
an
idea
whether
they
were
serving
in
the
best
interest
of
the
public
or
sort
of
lining
their
own
pockets,
with
the
decisions
that
they
were
making
and
out
of
watergate.
G
Most
states
there's
still
some
outliers
that
don't
have
an
ethics
commission,
but
most
states
and
many
local
jurisdictions
enacted
their
own
version
of
this
ethics
and
government
act
in
nevada's
law
originated
in
1975.
G
Again,
the
original
scope
of
ethics
laws
really
had
to
do
with
financial
disclosures,
but
as
things
developed
in
ethics
laws,
they
realized
that
the
complexity
and
the
sophistication
and
diversity
of
financial
interests
was
so
complex
that
a
simple
financial
disclosure
was
essentially
ill-equipped
to
provide.
The
transparency
that
was
originally
intended,
and
so
out
of
that
frame
of
mind
became
the
sort
of
expansion
of
ethics
laws
into
what
we
now
refer
to
essentially
as
ethical
standards
of
conduct
that
are
applicable
to
our
public
officers
and
our
public
employees.
G
The
premise
behind
this
expansion
was
in
in
essence,
back
to
the
mission.
This
is
a
public
service.
It's
a
public
trust
we're
not
to
be
engaging
in
activities
on
behalf
of
the
public
that
are
for
our
own
private
interests,
and
so
we
wanted
to
ensure
that
there
that
our
public
officials
and
public
employees
were
acting
impartially,
that
we
were
protecting
government
property
and
resources
from
personal
use
that
we
weren't
engaging
in
inappropriate
outside
employment.
G
So,
what's
interesting
is
you
know,
since
1975
we've
had
this
real
evolution
in
ethics
laws
and
what
is
most
concerning
to
an
agency
like
ours
at
the
ethics
commission
is
when
we
see
studies
come
out
and
they're
across
the
board,
but
this
one
stood
out
to
us
from
the
pew
research
center,
which
indicated
that
there
was
really
essentially
a
historic
low
in
the
public's
trust
in
government.
G
You
know
at
the
federal
government
level.
This
study
showed
that
that
20
of
americans,
you
know,
had
low
trust
in
government
expected
that
our
public
officials
would
do
the
right
thing
only
two
percent
of
the
time,
and
we
take
a
look
at
these
types
of
studies,
not
because
they're
necessarily
equal
to
what's
going
on
in
nevada,
but
really
because
it
emphasizes
for
the
ethics
commission,
not
only
our
mission,
but
is
there
something
we
could
be
doing
better?
G
Is
there
something
we
could
communicate
differently
to
ensure
that
the
public
has
more
faith
and
transparency
in
what
we're
doing
on
their
behalf?
G
The
coalition
on
integrity
has
year
after
year,
conducted
a
study
that
ranks
states
against
one
another
in
terms
of
its
many
things
actually,
but
in
2019
they
did
a
specific
study
on
ethics
enforcement
and
transparency
and
the
state
of
nevada
ranked
eight,
and
I
thought
that
was
a
tremendous
accomplishment
for
nevada
to
rank
that
high
in
terms
of
our
enforcement
and
transparency,
and
what's
ironic,
about
ranking
h
in
2019,
was
the
fact
that
they
looked
at
data
from
2018,
because
our
fiscal
year,
19
data
hadn't,
come
out
yet
and
interestingly
enough,
in
fiscal
year
19
we
saw
a
more
than
a
doubling
of
our
case
load,
both
on
the
advisory
and
complaint
side,
and
I
thought
we
saw
a
really
tremendous
a
lot
of
growth
in
fiscal
year
19.
G
So
I
would
have
imagined
that
a
ranking
even
would
have
been
higher
had
they
looked
at
those
statistics
back
in
2019
up
to
fiscal
year
20
we
got
a
new
study
that
came
out
with
fiscal
year
study.
It
again
looked
at
ethics
commissions
across
the
board
and
ethics
laws
and
on
all
of
those
same
categories.
The
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics,
ranked
just
as
high
as
it
did
in
2019.
G
The
next
study,
however,
implemented
some
other
review
of
some
other
issues
with
campaign
and
elections
and
multi-agency
factors
and
nevada
came
out
with
a
21
ranking
amongst
all
the
states
in
fiscal
year
20..
So
I'm
still
encouraged
by
the
outcome
with
the
ethics
questions
that
were
asked
in
those
studies
which
really
relate
back
to
enforcement,
transparency,
whistleblower
protections
and
things
of
that
nature,
which
I
still
find
very
encouraging.
G
So
essentially,
I
think
what
we're
seeing
in
government
today
is
really
a
re-emergence
of
ethics
laws.
So
so
most
ethics
laws,
including
the
the
creation
of
them,
were
created
40
years
ago,
and
so
today
I
think
there's
a
big
emphasis
on
restoring
the
public's
trust
in
government,
and
where
are
we
going
to
go
from
here
and
we've
seen
some
interesting
highlights
in
this
area?
G
I
noticed
from
your
previous
presenter
that
they
noted
hr
one.
That's
a
new
bill.
That's
coming
out
in
the
house
of
representatives,
it's
their
first
bill
for
the
new
congress,
and
one
of
the
aspects
of
that
bill
is
to
strengthen
the
ethics
rule
for
all
public
servants,
and
I
think
that
that
really
speaks
volumes,
that
this
was
a
bill
that
they
put
forward
in
the
last
congress.
They're
re-putting
it
forward
this
year
to
hopefully
pass
with
another
emphasis
on
ethics
laws,
conflict
of
interest
issues,
disclosures
financial
interests
and
so
forth.
G
One
of
the
bills
that
you're
going
to
see.
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
a
teaser
because
we'll
obviously
have
a
bill
hearing
on
these
issues,
but
we're
going
to
have
ab65
that
we're
going
to
propose
to
the
legislature
this
year
and
the
real
emphasis
and
the
commission's
thought
process
in
putting
forward
this
fair
bill
was
really
to
encourage
additional
due
process.
G
G
So
again,
just
a
brief
overview.
The
entire
mission
of
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics
is
really
to
enhance
public's
trust
in
government
to
ensure
that
our
public
officers
and
public
employees
commit
to
avoiding
conflicts
of
interest
between
their
public
duties
and
their
private
interests,
and
in
that
vein
the
commission
really
has
fairly
broad
jurisdiction,
but
I
thought
it
would
be
an
opportunity
here
today
to
really
explain
what
that
jurisdiction
is.
G
So
the
commission's
jurisdiction
is
written
as
oversight
from
for
purposes
of
the
ethics
and
government
law
over
all
public
officers
and
public
employees
in
the
state
of
nevada.
So
at
the
state
level
all
the
way
down
to
our
local
governments.
There
are
several
exceptions.
The
first
exception,
of
course,
are
our
judicial
officers.
G
With
questions
for
advice,
we
also
have
a
lot
mostly
on
the
local
level,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
public
entities
in
this
state
that
serve
as
advisory
bodies
and
so
members
of
these
advisory
bodies,
who
don't
have
final
decision-making
authority
who
are
essentially
making
recommendations
to
those
bodies
who
do
make
decisions
are
not
deemed
to
be
public
officers
under
the
definition
set
forth
in
our
chapter
and,
of
course,
third
are
state
legislators.
G
The
scope
of
the
ethics
commission's
jurisdiction
over
state
legislators
is
limited.
So,
to
the
extent
a
legislator,
a
state
legislator
is
engaging
in
a
core
legislative
function
or
conduct
that's
otherwise
protected
by
legislative
privilege
and
immunity.
That
conduct
is
going
to
be
governed
by
your
own
respective
house.
Ethics
committees,
we've
seen
I'll,
just
provide
a
kind
of
a
brief
evolution.
The
nevada
commission
on
ethics
has
been
reinstituted
a
couple
of
times.
Here
again
we
were
initiated
or
enacted.
G
in
1977.
Interestingly
enough,
the
the
legislature
enacted
two
separate
ethics
commissions,
they
enacted
a
legislative
ethics
commission
and
an
executive
branch
ethics
commission.
What
they
found
at
that
time
was
that
both
of
those
commissions
were
rarely
meeting
they
weren't
funded
and
they
weren't
as
effective
as
they
had
hoped.
So
they
came
back.
They
the
legislature
came
back
in
1985
and
created
again.
G
The
single
ethics
commission
funded
it
so
that
it
would
be
accessible
and
available
to
provide
advisory
opinions
to
interpret
and
enforce
the
ethics
law
and
to
review
complaints
that
would
come
in
and
of
course,
I
think,
what's
really
important,
and
what
I
just
want
to
emphasize
here.
A
little
bit
is,
there
became
a
question
about
what
was
the
distinction
in
the
role
with
the
legislative
house,
ethics
committees
versus
the
nevada
commission,
on
ethics
with
regard
to
state
legislators
and
for
purposes
of
better
understanding.
There
is
a
state
constitutional
provision
in
the
state
of
nevada.
G
That
specifically
says
essentially
separation
of
powers
issues,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
too
much
into
the
legalese
here,
but
it
allowed
for
each
branch
of
govern
to
essentially
govern
their
own
conduct
and
in
2009
the
nevada
supreme
court
took
a
look
at
this
in
the
commission
on
ethics
versus
hardy
decision,
and
that
was
the
decision
that
clarified
for
purposes
of
the
jurisdiction
of
the
ethics
commission,
that
we
would
not
have
jurisdiction
to
oversee
issues
that
related
to
core
legislative
functions
and
the
most
obvious
examples
of
that
are
clearly
what
you're
doing
here
in
the
legislature.
G
You're
voting
on
issues,
you're
introducing
legislation,
speech
and
debate.
All
of
those
things
are
core
to
the
legislative
function
and
therefore,
if
there
are
allegations
or
concerns
or
requests
for
advice
by
your
own
members,
those
would
go
to
the
respective
house
ethics
committees
and
then
in
2015
we
saw
ab496,
which
codified
the
principles
of
legislative
privilege
and
immunity
and
protected
both
state
legislators
and
your
staff
from
allegations
of
violations
of
ethics
laws.
That,
at
least,
would
go
again
to
your
own
respective
house
if
it
was
an
issue
protected
by
legislative
privilege
and
immunity.
G
I
just
highlight
here
on
this
next
slide.
You
know
a
few
of
the
legislative
house
rules
that
apply
to
you.
Certainly
that
is
not
up
for
the
commission
to
interpret
or
reply,
but
I
did
note
that
I
saw
earlier
this
week
that
you
did
pass
your
your
new
standing
rule
23
and
your
joint
standing
rules
on
ethics,
and
so,
if
there
are
questions
about
that,
I
certainly
would
wish
to
defer
to
your
own
legislative
counsel
for
for
issues
with
respect
to
that
out
of
difference
to
them.
G
G
All
right-
and
I
think
I
alluded
to
earlier,
of
course,
that
judges
again
officers
of
the
court
are
going
to
defer
to
the
nevada
commission
on
judicial
discipline
or
the
standing
committee
on
judicial
ethics
for
their
advice
and
enforcement,
and
the
standards
of
conduct
that
are
going
to
apply
to
judges,
separate
and
distinct
from
the
standards
that
we
have
under
our
law
are
going
to
be.
The
judicial
cannons.
G
All
right
a
bit
of
an
overview
here,
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics
is
essentially
responsible
for
four
primary
functions.
The
first
is,
and
most
important
to
the
commission
is
our
outreach
and
education.
G
Much
like
we're
providing
this
presentation
to
you
today.
What
we
are
responsible
for
statutorily
and
otherwise
is
to
provide
this
type
of
outreach
to
all
of
our
public
officers
and
employees
throughout
the
state.
We
do
that
regularly
in
as
many
venues
as
possible,
most
of
the
time
by
invitation,
but
also
we're
attempting
to
adapt
to
this
virtual
world
and
we're
trying
to
provide
these
types
of
presentations
and
access
to
trainings
on
our
website
as
well.
G
The
second
function
is
our
advisory
function.
This
is
a
process
whereby
any
public
officer
or
employee
can
seek
the
confidential
advice
of
the
commission
regarding
their
own
conduct.
Typically,
that
comes
in
the
form
of
number
one.
Does
this
circumstance
present
a
conflict
of
interest
for
me
and,
if
it
does,
is
it
disqualifying
or
is
there
some
other
action
that
can
be
undertaken
to
either
avoid
the
conflict
or
overcome
it?
In
some
sense,
and
the
third
function
we
perform?
Is
our
enforcement
arm?
G
If
there
is
an
investigation,
that's
required
that
that
investigation
will
be
confidential
until
it
proceeds
to
a
determination
by
a
three-member
panel
of
our
commission
to
ascertain
whether
the
evidence
discovered
during
an
investigation
is
sufficient
to
go
forward
for
adjudication
and
then
finally,
for
our
public
officers
out
there.
Much
like
yourselves
and
thank
you
to
those
of
you
that
got
them
on
file.
G
We
do
collect
acknowledgement
of
statutory
ethical
standards
forms
so
for
our
public
officers
who
are
elected.
This
form
needs
to
be
on
file
on
or
before
january
15th
after
an
election,
and
we
have
different
timelines
for
those
in
in
excuse
me,
those
public
officers
who
are
appointed.
G
I
thought
it
might
be
a
good
opportunity
here
to
show
you
some
some
trends
in
our
statistics.
The
first
one
is
our
outreach
and
education
program.
What
I
alluded
to
in
terms
of
our
program
has
really
been
the
executive
director's
responsibility
to
travel
throughout
the
state
to
provide
presentations
on
the
ethics
and
government
law,
in
particular
that
more
than
merits
less.
G
So
what
I'm
doing
here
today,
which
is
an
overview
and
more
getting
into
the
merits
of
of
the
ethics
laws,
what
they
mean
and
how
they
apply,
and
so
you'll
see
here
a
trend
slightly
downward.
We
we've
historically
noticed
lesser
trainings
during
legislative
years,
but
I
think
the
trend
for
fiscal
year
20
and
21
is
really
attributable
to
to
covid.
G
G
Again,
our
advisory
opinions,
just
a
quick
highlight
they
are
confidential.
What
ends
up
happening
with
an
advisory
opinion
is
that
there
is
either
a
written
submission
to
the
commission
or
the
commission
can
conduct
a
hearing
to
render
this
advice.
But
all
of
these
requests
for
advisory
opinion.
They
do
result
in
formal
written
opinions
that
are
prepared
by
the
the
commission
counsel.
G
So
these
aren't
just
you
know
one
page
documents.
These
are
sometimes
10,
20,
30,
page
opinions
that
really
vet
the
circumstances,
and
they
do
provide
precedent
for
the
commission
going
forward.
So
the
idea
is
that
we
publish
them
if
they're
confidential,
we
publish
an
abstract
of
them
so
that
they
can
serve
as
advice
for
other
people
who
might
be
similarly
situated
again.
G
So
I
find
that
encouraging,
obviously,
because
we
always
want
to
see
advice
coming
in
rather
than
enforcement.
So
the
thought
is
that
it's
promising
that
we're
seeing
advisory
opinions,
but
it's
also
a
highlight
for
us
that
you
know
outreach
and
education
is
certainly
going
to
be
a
priority,
and
also
there
are
a
number
of
individuals
who
have
questions
about
the
applicability
of
the
ethics
law,
who
might
be
confronted
with
these
conflicts,
and
so,
ideally,
we'll
be
able
to
have
that
type
of
outreach.
As
we
go
forward.
G
One
thing
that
the
commission
has
experienced,
not
unlike
every
other
agency
and
government
with
respect
to
covid
is,
is
some
challenging
issues,
the
first
of
which
is
that
there
is
a
statutory
deadline
for
the
commission
to
issue
these
advisory
opinions
and
with
resources
being
as
they
are.
We
thought
one
opportunity
that
really
could
open
up
for
our
public
officers
and
public
employees
out.
There
is
to
allow
the
commission's
executive
director
and
commission
council
to
provide
informal
advice
to
individuals.
G
That
advice,
of
course,
would
be
required
to
be
consistent
with
commission
precedent,
subject
to
review
by
the
commission
and,
of
course
the
commission's
opinions
are
subject
to
judicial
review.
The
thought
here
was
that
we
get
a
lot
of
calls
on
a
daily
basis.
G
There
might
be
a
public
official
who
has
a
meeting
that
evening
wants
some
advice
about
whether
they
have
a
disclosure
and
abstention
obligation
and,
typically,
what
we'll
have
to
say
is
you
know
we
can't
give
legal
advice,
you
can
request
an
advisory
opinion
or
we
can
refer
them
to
a
potential
opinion
that
might
be
applicable,
but
sometimes
they
just
want
a
little
bit
more
coverage
than
that,
and
we
thought
this
could
be
a
great
resource
for
the
public
with
ethics
complaints.
G
G
G
What
I
think
is
interesting
fiscal
year
19
was
the
first
time
that
we
started
to
worry
we're
really
seeing
more
than
a
doubling
of
our
caseload
on
the
complaint
side
from
fiscal
year.
19
and
18
reflects
what
we
were
seeing
in
prior
years,
so
we
saw
a
short
fall
in
fiscal
year.
20
as
a
result
of
covet,
I
think,
but
we
provided
the
first
three-quarter.
G
Occurring
during
that
time
frame,
and
so
we
really
were
seeing
the
same
trajectory
that
we
thought
we
would
experience
in
fiscal
year,
19
until.
C
Things
shut
down
with
coven,
but
the
more
interesting
statistic
there
I
think,
is
despite
the
number
of
complaints
received,
the
commission
is
accepting
jurisdiction
and
directing
investigations
of
a
good
portion
more
so
we
have
a
significant
portion
of
ongoing
investigations
and
you'll
see
fiscal
year.
20.
D
There
were
48
active
investigations,
some
from
those
received
that
year
and,
of
course,
some
that
carry
over
from
from
prior
years,
so
we're
definitely
seeing
a
high
number
of
cases
that
are
being
investigated
by
commission
staff
general
overview
of
our
complaint
procedures.
I
don't
want
to
bog
you
down
in
that,
but,
generally
speaking,
our
statutes
really
govern
our
filing
methods.
D
C
C
This
panel
is
going
to
decide
whether
the
evidence
is
sufficient
to
go
forward,
whether
there's
insufficient
evidence
or
whether
the
conducted
issue
is
appropriate
for
a
deferral
agreement,
which
means
not
referred
for
adjudication
and
we
can
enter
into
some
sort
of
terms
and
conditions
or
for
corrective
action
short
of
finding
violations
and
imposing
other
penalties.
Our
panel
determinations
are
the
first
instance
in
which
a
complaint
case
would
become
public
and
in
those
circumstances
in
which
a
case
proceeds
to
adjudication.
C
C
The
types
of
civil
penalties
that
are
outlined
in
our
statutes
include
any
you
know,
type
of
corrective
or
remedial
action.
We
mandate
ethics
training.
C
Five
thousand
a
bit
of
a
clarification
here,
too,
comes
with
respect
to
any
authority.
The
commission
might
have
to
remove
a
public
officer
or
public
employee.
We.
H
C
H
Last
but
not
least,
I
think
we're
getting
close
here
to
the
end.
I
really
want
to
emphasize
this
safe
harbor
provision
that
we.
I
I
I
Those
agencies,
the
commission,
views
this
as
an
asset,
so,
in
other
words,
we're
in
partnership
with
the
public
attorneys
in
the
various
agencies
to
assist
us
in
giving
advice
about
ethics
and
government
law,
the
commission
on
ethics.
The
turnaround
time
to
get
advice
from
the
commission
can
be
lengthy
a
lot
of
times
these.
E
This
has
been
in
the
law
for
a
long
time.
They've
concluded.
C
Law
now
I
note
that
distinction
of
willfulness
the
question.
I
So
by
that
we
really
want
our
public
officials
and
public
employees
to
be
able
to
rely
upon
the
legal
advice
of
the
agency
attorneys.
Certainly,
agency
attorneys
will
get
it
wrong.
Sometimes
they
may
not
interpret
it
the
same
way
as
the
commission,
but
if
these
individuals
are
seeking
that
advice,
they're
getting
it
before
they
act,
then
we
want
them
to
be
able
to
rely
on
that
short
of
a
finding
of
a
violation
by
the
ethics
commission.
The
commission
may
still
interpret
the
circumstances
differently
and
issue
an
opinion,
but
it
won't
impose
a
penalty.
I
Again,
I
wanted
to
highlight:
we've
had
some
really
interesting
cases
over
the
last
two
years
that
have
resulted
in
some
pretty
hefty
sanctions
from
the
ethics
commission.
In
fact,
they're
somewhat
historical
monetary
sanctions
that
the
ethics
commission
has
imposed
in
the
last
few
years,
so
total
amount
of
sanctions
from
fiscal
year.
19
was
approximately
40
000
and
in
current
fiscal
year
we've
already
imposed
about
45
thousand
dollars
for
misconduct
and
so
that
money
when
sanctions
are
imposed,
it
is
deposited
into
the
state
general
fund.
I
It
does
not
come
back
into
the
ethics
commission's
budget
and
so
we're
seeing
some
interesting
trends
in
terms
of
the
type
of
conduct
that
we've
seen.
That's
warranted.
Willful
sanctions.
I
That's
going
to
be
financial
interests
and
relationship
based
conflicts.
So
excuse
me
this
list
of
relationships
is
the
definition
set
forth
in
nrs281a
0.065
that
defines.
H
We
have
the
potential
for
a
conflict,
highbrow
level
of
our
standards
of
conduct.
We
can't
accept
improper
gifts.
We
can't
misuse
our
positions
to
obtain
or
grant
unwarranted
benefits.
There
are
limitations
on
government
contracts.
We
can't
misuse
or
suppress
non-public,
government
information
or
improperly
influence
our
subordinates
or
misuse.
Government
property,
as
well
as
our
queen.
H
Disclosure
and
abstention:
this
applies.
E
And
so
we
have
to
recognize
that
when
we're
telling
public
officials
they
can't
vote
on
issues,
that's
very
significant
decision.
You
know
the
theory,
the
legislative
history
behind
that
is.
We
don't
want
to
divest
the
public
of
their
representative
voice
in
government,
so
we're
only
going
to
mandate
these
in
the
most
clear
cases
of
absolute
material
conflicts.
E
Sometimes
these
are
judgment
calls
and
that's
of
course,
why
we
have
our
advisory
function.
That's
why
we
have
our
attorneys
to
represent
us
in
these
areas
and
most
of
our
opinions,
in
fact,
really
do
boil
down
to
this
disclosure
abstention
distinction,
cooling
off
quick
overview.
There
is
a
one-year
timeout
for
certain
public
officers
and
public
employees
who
wish
to
leave
their
public
service
and
work
in
the
private
sector.
E
H
Level,
employees
we
didn't
want
to
capture
rank
and
file
employees.
We
really
wanted
to
capture
those
who
are
instrumental
in
making
decisions
or
who
were
charged
with
policy
decisions,
administration
of
of
these
regulated
entities,
and
so
we
agreed
to
to
put
forward
that
measure
and
then,
on
the
other
thing
we
saw,
you
know,
I
think
you
might
have
seen
my
my
statistic
for
advisory
opinions
on
the
41
advisory
opinions
that
we
received
in
fiscal
year
20..
H
F
If
they
weren't
instrumental
in
awarding
the
contract,
they
were
get
granted
that
relief
or
not
necessarily
relief.
But
we
determined
that
the
statute
didn't
apply.
So
we're
going
to
propose
this
year
for
your
consideration,
whether
or
not
we
should
be
capturing.
Also
those
employees
who
are
instrumental
in
managing
or
administering
those
contracts.
F
And
with
that,
I
just
would
like
to
conclude
on
a
very
general
overview
that
we'll
be
presenting
to
you
this
year
in
ab65
other
than
what
I've
already
highlighted
here,
for
you
is
that
we
we've
certainly
seen
the
the
cost
to
our
agency
of
the
covid
related
issues,
the
the
biggest
one
of
which
is
that
we
have
multiple
statutory
deadlines
set
forth
in
our
statutes
and
they're
very
difficult
to
achieve,
not
just
because
of
emergency
coveted
circumstances,
but
also
because
of
the
the
nature
of
complaints
and
advisory
issues
that
have
come
before
the
commission.
F
We
simply
need
more
time
and
appropriate
circumstances
to
be
able
to
address
these
issues,
so
so
we're
looking
at
streamlining
some
of
our
processing
requesting
some
extensions
of
times
looking
at
preliminary
investigations.
So
we
don't
have
to
get
into
a
full-blown
investigation.
If
there's
no,
what
we
call
sort
of
there
there
we're
really
focused
on
some.
H
E
E
90
of
the
witnesses
to
the
allegations
we're
dealing
with
are
colleagues
of
public
officers
and
public
employees,
and
we
need
their
help
to
ascertain
what's
going
on,
and
with
that,
I
guess
one
more
highlight
my
apologies.
I
want
to
also
emphasize
what
ethics
law
is.
Not
there's
a
lot
of
misconception
out
there,
presumably
because
of
the
word
ethics.
E
We
do
not
govern
campaign
finance
and
election
law,
as
you
saw
from
your
prior
present
presenter,
that's
governed
by
the
secretary
of
state's
office.
We
also
don't
govern
policy
decisions,
it's
not
our
job
to
come
in
and
second
guess,
decisions
that
are
being
made
by
governing
bodies
or
different
agencies.
E
We
get
a
lot
of
questions
about
that
or
calls
right.
We
disagree
with
this
decision.
It's
unethical!
You
guys
ought
to
go
investigate
that.
E
Well,
that
that's
simply
not
our
role,
we're
only
going
to
be
concerned
about
those
policy
decisions
if
they're
made
because
of
a
private
interest
or
to
affect
a
private
interest,
and
while
it
seems
a
bit
silly
things
like
rude
behavior
and
laziness
or
calls
we
get
a
lot,
but
clearly
that's
not
going
to
rise
to
the
level
of
oversight
by
the
ethics
commission
and,
on
a
more
serious
note,
the
the
sexual
harassment
questions
and
the
workplace
discrimination.
Those
are
just
more
properly
vetted
by
agencies
like
the
nevada,
equal
rights.
E
H
H
Questions
chair
orange
shawl.
Thank
you
very.
E
Much
sharon
miller
and
more
of
a
comment
I
just
wanted
to
compliment
ms
navarre's
goodson.
I
know
she's
worked
so
hard
to
improve
our
standing
among
the
states
on
our
ethics
laws
and
been
great
to
work
collaboratively
with
you.
E
Certainly
chairing
this
committee
last
session
and
then
being
in
chair
miller's
seat
when
I
have
the
the
the
great
honor
to
chair
the
assembly
commit
election,
so
appreciate
all
your
hard
work
on
these
issues,
and
you
know,
as
you
mentioned,
it's
been
a
long
long
road
since
the
1970s
at
the
first
election,
our
ethics
laws
and
going
back
and
forth,
but
just
wanted
to
compliment
all
your
hard
work.
Thank
you,
chair
miller.
E
Indeed,
thank
you
any
other
questions
from
any
other
members.
H
I
would
again
like
to
thank
you,
director,
goodson
and,
of
course,
commission
council
tracy
chase.
That
is
also
participating
and
not
seeing
any
other
questions.
I
would
like
to
close
this
agenda
item
and
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item,
which
is
public
comment,
and
so,
with
the
public
comment,
we
will
be
limiting
public
comment
to
30
minutes.
As
previously
mentioned.
Those
who
wish
to
provide
public
comment
are
directed
to
pre-register
online
so
that
they
have
an
opportunity.
H
A
few
of
our
housekeeping
mentions
are
again
that
testimony
during
public
comment
is
limited
to
two
minutes
per
person.
Remarks
should
address
issues
that
fall
within
the
jurisdiction
of
this
committee
and,
of
course,
we
already
appreciate
and
thank
everyone
for
being
respectful
and
courteous
to
all.
Also
written
remarks
may
also
be
submitted
for
inclusion
in
the
meeting
records.
H
H
H
I
Hello,
caller,
you
are
live.
You
have
two
minutes.
Okay,
thank
you.
My
name
for
the
record
is
darla
lee.
Can
you
hear
with
the
last
three
digits
we
can
hear
you
slowly
spell.
I
I
I
Okay,
is
this
better?
Yes
much
better?
Thank
you!
Yes!
Okay!
Fine,
sorry
about
that,
so
the
nevada
democrats
passed
day
before
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
ignored
public
comment,
so
it
it
is
very
disturbing
to
hear
that
the
the
presentation
that
everything
was
absolutely
perfect
with
this
past
election,
because
the
there
was
so
much
that
has
been
refused
to
be
investigated
of
documented
criminal
behavior
in
regards
to
the
november
election
and,
for
example,
a
before
sent
out
was
allowed
to
be
sent
out,
and
this.
E
E
B
E
H
So
why
aren't
you
legislatures
legislators
looking
at
these
affidavits,
which
document
witnessing
a
voter
fraud
in
the
election,
and
I
would
like
to
know
how
the
thousands
of
non-citizens
vote
in
nevada,
as
shown
by
their
dmv
subpoena
data?
Also,
why
are
there
still
deceased
people
on
the
on
the
voter
rolls?
H
Because
if
it's
so
such
a
daily
thing.
C
That
they
are
being
taken
off.
Why
are
there
still
so
many,
as
evidenced
in
the
last
election
of
these
deceased
people,
non-citizens
and
non-residents.
H
Still
on
our
voter
rolls,
I
think
you
folks
have
a
lot
to
do
to
actually
provide
us
with
a
clean
and
safe
election.
That
has
been
your
two
minutes.
Thank
you.
So
much
yes,
I'm
finished.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
Next,
caller,
please,
our
bps.
Is
there
a
next
caller
there
is.
We
have
about
seven,
so
I
will
jump
into
the
next
one.
Okay,
great!
Thank
you.
C
C
C
K-I-M-B-E-R-L-Y
episode,
frank
e-r-g-u-s,
and
I
am
calling
in
support
of
senator
buck
for
her
fight
for
clean
and
fraud
and
for
her
clean
elections.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
kind
of
tongue-tied
from
trying
to
watch
the
youtube
and
do
this.
At
the
same
time,
however,
why
are
we
even
going
down
this
route?
I've
been,
and
I
have
in
my
possession
affidavit
to,
and
I've
tried
to
given
him
to
the
secretary
of
state.
She
refuses
to
answer
why
she
won't
accept
any
of
these
sworn
affidavits.
C
I
personally
have
talk
people
off
the
ledge
of
wanting
to
commit
suicide
because
they're
losing
their
voice
to
fair
elections.
That's
all
we
have
left
in
this
country
is
fair
elections
and
I
have
people
one
person,
one
family
he's
been
here
30
years
registered
to
vote
same
address.
C
C
I
said
what
do
you
mean?
You
came
to
that
conclusion.
Well,
we
thought
it
would
be
fair.
This
is
wrong.
I'm
sorry
if
I
really
totally
got
off
script,
but
I
mean
listen,
you
guys.
I
was
there
when
ab4
passed
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
there
was
four
thousand
public
comments.
I
stood
up
all
night
made
public
comments
on
the
phone
and
stuff
like
that.
C
C
C
C
I
know
you
guys
are
just
getting
started
and
I
heard
the
two
previous
callers.
My
issue
is
that
you
know
in
2018
and
before
our
elections
were
determined
pretty
much
on
election
night.
All
right.
We
know
who
voted
and
we
had
counted
all
the
ballots
and
the
decisions
were
final,
with
a
few
exceptions
because
of
closeness
of
the
races
and
counting
absentee
ballots.
C
C
Now
you're
accepting
ballots
so
much
later,
mail-in
ballots,
you
have,
you
know
you're,
allowing
postmarks
if
it's
unsure
what
the
postmark
says,
then
you're
accepting
the
post,
the
fact
that
the
ballot
was
postmarked
before
the
close
of
election
that
created
some
uncertainty,
a
couple
of
other
things
that
came
up
that
I
think
you
need
to
take
a
look
at.
I
can't
speak
for
the
other
counties,
but
here
in
clark
county
when
I
voted
in
person,
I
had
100
verification
of
my
signature.
C
C
Obviously,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
lists,
but
you
know
the
the
longer
that
it
takes
the
state
to
validate
and
verify
the
election,
the
more
uncertainty
it
creates
among
the
electorate
and
that's
something
that
you
need
to
take
a
look
at,
because
the
electric
has
to
have
confidence
in
the
entire
process,
not
just
the
balloting,
but
also
the
counting
and
the
timeliness
of
it
all.
So,
as
you
guys
get
conduct
your
business,
I
think
you
need
to
consider
those
items.
Thank
you.
C
C
C
I
am
concerned
that
so
far,
the
secretary
of
state
and
this
committee
have
not
followed
up
on
the
following
incidents:
first,
in
ab4,
legalized
assistance,
assisted
signatures
which
allows
ballots
to
be
completed
on
behalf
of
those
65
and
older
and
those
who
are
incapacitated
so
far.
Only
eureka
county
has
complied
with
public
records,
requests
and
reporting
for
ballot
completion.
C
How
many
ballots
were
signed
by
another
person
that
were
not
reported
or
investigated?
All
nevadans
should
stand
against
the
abuse
of
our
seniors,
and
I
hope
that
this
committee
stands
with
us.
There
is
video
evidence
of
vote
buying
on
every
native
american
reservation
in
nevada.
That's
documented,
on
video.
This
is
a
felony
per
nrs
293.700
bribery
of
an
elector.
C
C
C
Caller
with
the
last
three
digits
940,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin
hi.
My
name
is
carolina,
serrano,
last
name
s-e-r-r-a-n-o
and
I'm
calling
in
support
of
election
integrity.
So
when
voter
fraud
hits
close
to
home,
it
just
hits
a
bit
different.
I
went
through
hundreds
of
affidavits
and
one
of
them
in
particular
caught
my
eye
because
it
had
my
brother's
name
on
it.
C
C
I
do
want
to
go
back
to
the
gentleman's
presentation
where
he
talked
about
election
integrity
becoming
more
complex,
and
I
have
to
say
that
the
reason
why
it's
becoming
more
complex
is
because
the
safeguards
are
being
taken
away.
It's
very
simple
to
vote.
It's
one
vote.
One
person
show
up
with
your
id
as
an
american
citizen
and
cast
your
vote.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you
very
much.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
I
live
in
reno
and
I'm
calling
to
register
my
concern
with
the
most
recent
elections.
A
fair
and
honest
vote
is
protected.
Very
simply.
Transparency,
bipartisanship,
consistent
application
of
rules
and
common
sense
are
imperative
when
planning
and
executing
an
election.
A
fair
election
requires
also
that
only
those
who
are
legally
able
to
vote
vote
in
the
atmosphere
of
the
pandemic.
C
C
You
know
my
father
passed
away
june,
9th
ironically
the
day
of
the
nevada
primary
for
which
he
had
cast
an
absentee
ballot.
A
week.
Prior,
his
death
was
recorded
at
the
washoe
county
health
district,
vital
records
department
located
at
1001
east
9th
street
building
b.
First
floor
months
later,
he
received
his
ballot
for
the
general
election
from
washoe
county
voter
registrar,
located
at
1001,
east
9th
street
building
a
first
floor,
a
one
minute
walk
or
a
nanosecond
via
computer.
Yet
somehow
that
info
did
not
make
it
to
the
registrar
voters.
C
C
As
a
previous
caller
already
mentioned
the
woman
with
breast
cancer,
she
died
and
then
somebody
voted
her
ballot
along
with
one
thousand
five
hundred
and
six
other
known
people
who
were
dead,
who
voted
in
two
thousand
twenty
one
illegal
vote
cast
canceled
out
my
vote.
Thousands
obliterated
my
voice.
C
How
many
fraudulent
votes
should
we
accept?
I
say
none!
Thank
you
for
your.
Thank
you
for
your
concern
and
fixing
this
problem.
C
C
C
Okay,
I'll
move
on
to
the
last
caller
and
I'll
just
say
well,
while
you're
getting
with
the
next
caller
that
again,
because
I'm
I'm
hoping
they
can
hear
me
that
they
can
always
submit
their
their
comments
as
well.
C
C
C
Chair
the
comment
line
is
open
and
working,
but
we
have
no
more
callers
at
this
time.
Okay,
thank
you
so
much,
and
I
know
that
you
know.
I
appreciate
you
going
back
to
ensure
that
everyone
who
intends
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
and
be
heard,
and
we
have
allotted
you-
know
enough
time,
especially
between
individuals.
C
C
Okay,
seeing
no
additional
comments
then
this
concludes
our
meeting
for
today.
Next
meeting
will
be
tuesday
february
9th
at
4
p.m.
Again,
as
a
joint
committee
meeting
and
this
time,
chair
or
child
will
be
leading
us
so
with
that,
thank
you
so
much
and
this
meeting
is.