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A
A
And
when
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno
arrives
and
assemblywoman
thomas,
please
mark
them
present.
I
know
that
they're
just
finishing
up
with
with
some
meetings
and
such
so
with
that
again
good
afternoon,
so
glad
to
see
people
here
in
the
room
with
us
happy
to
see
you
all
we're
excited
to
be
here
in
the
room
with
you
as
well-
and
I
know
we've
been
doing
this
for
a
few
days
now,
so
it
changes
a
little
bit
how
the
committee
operates.
A
There
will
be
a
public
comment
at
the
end
of
the
agenda
for
up
to
a
half
hour
and,
of
course,
always
reminding
everyone
early
that
everyone
will
have
up
to
two
minutes
to
speak
for
public
comment
and
any
time
you
testify
or
speak.
We
need
to
ask
that
you
say
say
your
full
name
and
spell
it
so
that
we
have
everything
correct
on
the
record
today
we
have
two
bills
that
we
will
hear
and
we
will
take
him
in
order
on
the
agenda.
A
The
first
bill
will
be
assembly
bill
441,
so
speaker
fryerson.
Thank
you.
He's
headed
on
up
to
the
the
table
for
us.
A
And
with
that
again
our
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
441.
It
will
be
presented
by
speaker,
jason
fryerson,
and
this
measure
relates
to
legislative
provisions
regarding
the
vacancy
and
appointment
of
legislators
and
campaign
funds,
and
so
please
proceed
when
you're
ready.
C
Good
afternoon
and
thank
you,
chair
chairwoman,
miller
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
jason
fryerson,
I'm
the
assemblyman
for
district
8
and
speaker
of
the
nevada
state
assembly.
I
am
here,
of
course,
to
present
assembly
bill
441,
which
serves
as
a
mechanism
to
handle
the
financial
and
practical
burden
of
appointed
members
of
the
legislature,
who
are
appointed
shortly
before
or
during
a
legislative
session.
C
As
you
all
know,
nrs294a
300
states
that
it
is
unlawful
for
a
member
of
the
legislature
to
solicit
or
accept
any
monetary
contribution
or
solicit
or
accept
a
commitment
to
make
such
a
contribution
for
any
political
purpose
during
the
specified
period
of
time.
Before
and
after
a
legislative
session
generally,
a
legislator
may
not
receive
or
solicit
a
contribution
during
the
period
beginning
30
days
before
and
ending
30
days
after
a
regular
session
and
15
days
before
or
after
a
special
session.
We
refer
to
that
as
the
blackout
period.
C
Additionally,
campaign
funds
may
not
be
used
for
personal
use,
which
is
defined
as
an
expense
that
would
exist,
irrespective
of
whether
a
person
was
a
legislator.
However,
many
expenses,
such
as
paying
rent
and
for
living
space
here
in
carson
city
during
session,
exist
only
because
the
person
is
a
legislator.
C
This
expense
qualifies
as
an
allowable
use
of
campaign
funds,
of
course,
serving
in
the
legislature,
is
an
honor
and
it's
a
privilege,
but
I
don't
think
it's
lost
on
this
body
that
we
are
a
citizens
legislature
doing
the
people's
work
with
little
compensation
here
in
nevada.
Our
legislators
earn
164.69
per
day,
and
that's
only
for
the
first
60
days.
That's
about
9
800
for
the
first
60
days,
and
that's
every
other
year.
C
According
to
the
national
conference
of
state
legislators,
the
average
yearly
salary
of
lawmakers
across
the
country
is
33
500
for
us
legislators,
particularly
those
of
us
from
southern
nevada,
were
forced
to
relocate
over
400
miles
away
from
our
districts
to
do
the
people's
work
and
with
little
limited
financial
means.
As
a
result,
we
are
often
forced
to
use
our
leftover
campaign
funds
to
meet
the
real
financial
burden
of
serving
our
state
legislators
who
are
appointed
during
a
blackout
period.
Don't
have
any
unused
campaign
funds
they're
not
able
to
accept
or
solicit
monetary
contributions.
C
With
this
reality
in
mind,
ab441
was
brought
to
address
those
issues.
Unfortunately,
for
those
of
us
who
have
been
here
in
the
last
few
sessions,
we've
lost
several
members
in
both
chambers,
near
or
during
session,
and
it
became
apparent
that
for
those
in
particular,
who
were
appointed
during
a
blackout
period,
they
were
forced
to
use
personal
income
to
serve
as
a
member
of
this
body.
C
According
to
the
national
conference
of
state,
legislatures
nevada
is
one
of
29
states
that
places
restrictions
on
giving
and
receiving
campaign
contributions
during
a
legislative
session.
But
15
states
have
a
general
ban
on
all
contributions.
However,
14
of
the
remaining
states
only
only
have
limitations
that
apply
to
the
ban
on
contributions
from
lobbyists
and
or
political
action
committees.
C
This
bill
will
allow
the
legislative
caucuses
as
well
as
fellow
legislators,
the
ability
to
contribute
to
an
appointed
member
during
a
blackout
period.
In
addition,
the
bill
only
give
leadership
in
both
the
majority
and
minority
caucuses.
The
ability
to
reassign
bdrs
of
members
who've
left
this
body
I'll
now
walk
through
the
provisions
of
the
bill
section.
One
of
the
bill
addresses
what
happens
to
bill
drafts
when
a
vacancy
occurs
after
the
general
election
before
a
regular
election
starts.
C
The
leaders
must
also
submit
a
list
of
the
reassigned
bdrs
to
the
legislative
council
by
the
eighth
day
of
the
session,
and
they
may
revise
that
list
no
later
than
the
15th
day.
Any
reassigned
bdrs
are,
in
addition
to
the
bdrs,
a
senate
or
assembly.
Member
would
normally
have
section.
Two
of
this
bill
has
to
do
with
campaign
contributions
for
members
who
are
appointed
to
fill
a
vacancy
during
the
time
when
legislators
are
prohibited
from
soliciting
or
accepting
contributions,
often
referred
again
again
as
the
blackout
period
under
this
bill.
C
C
They
may
not
be
used
to
cover
expenses
other
than
the
expenses
for
moving
travel
and
housing
that
are
over
the
supplemental
allowance
that
they
receive
section.
Four
of
the
bill
concerns
a
meeting
of
the
term
personal
use
of
campaign
contributions
under
existing
law.
It
is
unlawful
for
candidates
and
public
officers
to
spend
contributions
for
personal
use.
C
This
bill
specifies
that
personal
use
does
not
include
paying
for
legislators
moving
travel
and
housing
expenses.
Over
and
above
the
supplemental
allowance
that
all
legislators
are
entitled
to
receive
section.
5
addresses
the
disposal
of
campaign
contributions
under
existing
law.
If
a
candidate
is
elected
and
has
campaign
funds
that
they
didn't
spend
or
commit
before
the
election,
they
must
dispose
of
that
money
by
returning
it
to
the
contributors
using
it.
The
next
campaign
cycle,
contributing
to
another
campaign
or
other
methods
that
are
existing
in
statute.
C
This
bill
authorizes
a
candidate
elected
to
the
senate
or
the
assembly
to
dispose
of
campaign
contributions,
also
by
contributing
to
a
member
who
is
allowed
under
section
2
to
accept
contributions
because
they
were
appointed
to
feel
a
vacancy
section.
6-9
are
conforming
changes
and
section
10
deals
with
the
effective
date,
which
would
be
upon
the
passage
and
approval.
C
C
I
think
ab441
is
a
reasonable
measure
to
ensure
that
we
ease
any
financial
burden
to
that
process
and
ensure
that
we
remove
barriers
that
hinder
those
from
serving
in
this
body.
Essentially,
you
should
not
be.
You
should
not
have
to
be
independently
wealthy
to
be
appointed
to
serve
to
fill
a
vacancy
and
under
the
currents
under
the
current
law.
C
The
only
way
that
you
can
fill
a
vacancy
and
and
be
able
to
live
is
if
you
have
a
financial
means
to
do
so,
and
so
this
bill
is
attempting
to
remedy
that,
to
give
everybody
greater
access
to
the
to
the
democratic
process
and
have
a
greater
ability
to
serve,
and
I
think
that
we
are
oftentimes
unable
to
find
candidates
who
are
able,
although
they're
great
candidates,
to
financially
carry
a
burden
that
the
rest
of
us
are
not
required
to
carry.
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
speaker,
fryerson,
for
bringing
ab441
forward.
I
just
had
some
clarifying
questions
to
make
sure
I'm
reading
the
language
correctly
under
section
two
step:
two
where
you
talked
about
the
caps
on
the
amounts
that
they
can
solicit
during
or
request
during
a
regular
session
or
special
session.
It
says
10
000
for
a
regular
session
or
1200
for
a
special
session.
That's
just
in
total,
not
per
per
like.
I
can't
get
10
000
from
my
chair
and
then
ten
thousand
for
my
colleague
correct.
Am
I
reading
like.
C
Thank
you
again
for
the
record
jason
fryerson
assemblywoman
how
to
get
through.
Madam
chair
to
you.
Yes,
you're,
correct
it's
a
total
of
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
I
don't
know
that
anyone
would
need
necessarily
more
than
that.
This
is
intended
to
cover
living
expenses,
so
that
folks,
who
are
appointed,
are
able
to
serve.
D
Thank
you,
and
if
I
could,
madam
chair,
just
one,
follow
up
and
again
speaker
just
clarifying
questions
just
make
sure
I'm
reading
it
correctly
sub
three
in
that
same
section,
where
it
talks
about
dollars
that
were
raised,
that
weren't
used
or
expended.
C
That's
correct,
you
know
to
some
extent
they
they,
they
join
this
body,
but
they
don't
have
the
interim
that
led
up
to
the
session
of
fundraising
and
the
same
obligations
as
far
as
having
to
return
it.
They
haven't
run
any
election,
and
so
we
thought
it
was
reasonable
to
just
simply
make
this
bill
about
allowing
these
individuals
who
are
appointed
to
be
able
to
afford
to
be
up
here
for
that
session
and
not
have
any
extra
consequences
or
obligations
beyond
returning
any
unspent
money.
A
B
You
chair,
I
thank
you
speaking
for
the
presentation,
I
I
really
appreciate
this
legislation
as
I
think
it's
resolving
an
issue
that
we've
seen
all
too
often
during
my
time
here
at
the
legislature.
My
question
is,
regarding
section
two
of
the
bill:
that's
looking
specifically
at
being
giving
them
the
ability
to
accept
those
monetary
contributions.
B
It
states
that
a
legislator
who
was
appointed
to
fill
a
vacancy
in
the
office
of
legislator
during
a
period
described
in
subsection
one
and
then,
as
I
read
subsection
one,
I
think
that
that
period
would
only
apply
then,
if
the
session,
if
the
session
has
not
yet
started
so
this
wouldn't
my
understanding,
then,
would
is
that
this
would
not
be
applicable
if
the
session
has
already
started
or
how
would
that
impact
somebody
who
was
maybe
appointed
in
the
middle
of
the
session.
C
I
thank
you
again,
jason
fryerson
for
the
record
seminars.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
The
the
the
intent
of
the
bill
is
to
allow
individuals
who
specifically,
who
are
appointed
during
session,
to
be
able
to
raise
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
from
a
total,
from
either
caucuses
or
from
members
to
be
able
to
provide
for
living
expenses.
C
That
is
the
point.
So
it's
covering
individuals
who
are
appointed
either
within
the
30-day
period
before
session
starts
during
session
or
within
the
30-day
period,
presumably
afterwards,
15
similar
special
sessions,
obviously
for
an
appointed
member.
The
30
and
15
days
afterwards
is
not
relevant
because
they
would
be
required
to
return
money
that
they
didn't
spend
during
that
session,
that
they
were
appointed
to
serve
in.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
think
this
address
is
a
really
big
problem
that
we've
had,
especially
it
seems
like
in
the
last
few
years
we've
had
so
many
people
appointed.
My
question
has
to
do,
though,
with
the
number
of
bills,
because
I'm
not
exactly
understanding
this
either.
So
if
someone
was
appointed
within
say
the
time
when
you
know
the
deadline
to
get
your
first
five
bills
in
so
with
the
person
who
was
replaced,
would
that
would
that
be
an
addition
of
those
five
bills
that
they
would
have
had
too.
E
F
C
C
Jason
from
the
for
the
record,
the
the
the
purpose
of
this
section
is
because
we
all
have
constituents
that
reach
out
to
us
and
ask
for
bills
right
and
before
session
starts,
I
may
have
a
bill
and
assemblywoman
dickman.
You
may
have
somebody
approach
you
with
the
same
bill
and
you
may
have
decided
well
speaker.
Fryerson
already
has
that
bill,
so
it's
covered
and
then,
for
whatever
reason,
I
have
to
resign
well.
That
constituent
was
deprived
of
the
ability
to
have
that
concept
vetted,
because
people
made
decisions
based
on
who
was
carrying
bdrs.
C
So
this
would
not
be
additional
bdrs
in
total.
This
would
be
preserving
the
ability
to
reassign
some
of
those
bdrs
that
the
individual
who
resigned
committed
to
and
it
can
be
provided
to
the
person
who
was
appointed
or
anybody
else
in
the
legislature,
so
that
those
bills
were
not
lost.
It
doesn't
mandate
that
they
be
reassigned,
but
certainly
it
allows
the
leadership
of
all
four
caucuses
to
reassign
those
that
were
already
submitted.
E
G
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
question
regarding
section
2
sub
1,
where
it
says
that
these
contributions
could
come
from
another
legislator
from
an
organization
whose
primary
purpose
is
to
provide
support
for
legislators,
a
particular
party
in-house.
You
think
he
made
clear
that
the
intent
there
is
for
that
to
apply
to
caucuses
conceivably.
C
G
Thank
you,
a
follow-up
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
For
that
answer,
I'm
wondering
if
there.
Obviously
the
blackout
period
goes
for
the
30
days
after
session
and
obviously
under
this,
the
appointed
lawmaker
would
be
able
to
solicit
contributions
during
that
time
and
receive
them.
G
Would
the
lawmaker
be
able
to
receive
a
solicit,
a
contribution
during
the
blackout
period
and
then
receive
that
same
contribution
say
afterwards,
so
let's
say
the
lawmaker
asks
for
a
contribution
in
may.
Does
the
contribution
have
to
come
in
before
the
blackout
period
or
could
it
conceivably
come
in,
say,
august
or
september
of
that
same
year?.
C
Thank
you
again
for
the
record
jason
fryerson.
I
think
the
point
is
less
about
the
date
of
the
request
and
more
about
the
expense.
I
I
don't
imagine
that
a
an
appointed
member
would
have
an
expense
related
to
serving
after
being
appointed
in
october,
and
so
the
point
is
it:
it
has
to
be
applied
only
to
the
purposes
of
paying
for
living
expenses
during
the
term
that
they
are
serving,
and
so
presumably,
at
the
end
of
the
legislative
session,
they
will
be
subject
to
the
same
the
same
limitations.
C
But
it's
clear
it
can
only
be
to
pay
for
living
expenses
moving
and
living
expenses
during
service
for.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
for
bringing
this
up
and
and
in
recognizing
that
we
don't
do
this
for
the
money
and
we're
not
independently
wealthy
most
of
us,
but
so
what
I
was
looking
at
is
the
twelve
hundred
dollars
for
special
session
and
and
the
special
sessions
are
always
like
an
indeterminate
amount
of
time,
and
I
mean
heaven
forbid
we're
up
here
for
four
months
in
a
special
session,
but
it
seems
like
the
comparison
of
of
twelve
hundred
dollars
for
a
special
session
is,
is
how
did
you
come
up
with
that
number?
H
H
One
lasted
two
weeks:
one
lasted
four
days,
so
I
just
I
just
mike
my
concern
is-
is
that
this
may
not
cover
someone
who's
appointed
and
we
have
a
marathon
special
session
like
we
want
to
rename
clark
county
or
something
in
in,
and
it
takes
four
months
to
do
it
so
did
you
did
you
have
any
consideration
for
like
a
time
period
in
that
in
that
regard?
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
You
for
the
record
jason
freyerson,
although
it
wasn't
entirely
arbitrary,
there
is
no,
you
know
standard
for
how
long
a
special
session
lasts.
There
is
no
ideal
for
whether
or
not
somebody
can
get
a
hotel
room
or
get
a
house
or
an
apartment
it.
Obviously
you
know
it
depends
on
the
nature
of
that
particular
special
session.
I
would
imagine
if
and
when
we
proposed
to
rename
clark
county
levitt
county,
it
would
be
a
relatively
fast
special
session,
but
you
know
this.
C
This
is
certainly
not
expected,
nor
do
any
of
us
have
the
ability
to
absorb
all
of
our
costs
with
the
amount
of
money
that
is
provided
through
the
system,
but
this
is
progress
to
make
sure
that
at
least
somebody
has
the
ability
to
to
to
start
recognizing
that
some
people
may
not,
and
they
may
decide
not
to
even
apply
to
be
appointed
because
they
simply
can't
afford
it.
This
is
just
an
effort,
albeit
not
complete,
and
it's
impossible
to
make
it.
H
Yes,
thank
you,
and
I
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
I
just
you
know
knowing
that
you
know
having
served
in
special
sessions.
You
know
housing
alone
is,
is
you
know
by
nature,
much
more
expensive
during
a
special
session,
simply
because
you
have
to
stay
at
a
hotel
which
is
which
is
more
expensive
than
renting
a
house
for
four
months,
and-
and
I
would
I
would
approve
of
that
motion
that
that
speaker,
fryerson,
had
to
add
changing
clark,
county's
name
and
adding
it
to
this
bill.
A
So
with
that,
I
would
like
to,
I
think,
there's
a
clarifying
question
that
may
help
with
with
this
assemblyman
levitt
during
that
special
session
that
lasted
13
days
this
past
summer,
and
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
so
I'm
going
to
rely
on
our
legal
and
and
everyone
here.
Isn't
it
true
that,
as
legislators,
our
hotel
rooms
were
only
covered
for?
Was
it
the
first
five
days
or
10
days?
Seven
days
who
remembers.
A
Correct
it
did
not
cover
the
whole
13
days
that
we
were
here,
and
so
then
we
had
choices
to
either
pay
out
of
our
pocket
or
pay
out
of
campaign
funds.
But
again
we
also
had
individuals
that
were
appointed
for
special
session,
and
so
the
challenge
with
that
was
sincerely
when,
when
it
was
the
anticipation
that
oh,
your
hotel
rooms
will
be
covered
and
then
even
sitting
legislators
were
like
oh
wait,
not
all
of
the
nights
were
covered.
So
I
think
with
that
you
know.
A
C
C
If
someone
was
appointed
for
regular
session,
then
they
become
a
sitting
legislator
so
30
days
after
the
end
of
regular
session,
they
could
then
fundraise,
and
so
this
is
intending
to
really
try
to
encapture
at
least
a
narrow
set
of
circumstances
where
someone
is
simply
financially
unable,
even
though
they
are
qualified
and
may
be
an
ideal
choice
to
to
to
do
it
at
all.
And
so
it
doesn't
encompass
every
possible
scenario.
C
But
if
they're
in
a
regular
session
and
then
they
get
a
break
and
then
there's
a
special,
then
they
would
be
able
to
fundraise
beyond
that
blackout
period.
So
this
is
really
narrowly
tailored
to
be
able
to
help
someone
afford
to
be
able
to
serve,
and
then
they
would
otherwise
be
subject
to
the
same
requirements
other
than
they
would
have
to
return
the
money
on
any
unused
money
that
wasn't
going
towards
their
living
expenses,
which
the
rest
of
us
would
not
have
to
do.
A
Okay,
not
seeing
any
additional
questions,
I'm
going,
so
we
now
have
additional
questions.
All
right,
grace
extended
on
the
first
day
back
in
the
physical
building.
Okay,
so
then,
in
that
case
we
will.
These
will
be
our
three
final
questions:
assemblyman
matthews,
assemblywoman,
gonzalez
and
assemblywoman
dickman
assemblywoman,
matthew.
G
Thank
you
chair
and
I
I
apologize
I
I
wanted
to
come
back
to
assemblywoman
dickman's
line
of
questioning,
and
maybe
it
was
made
clear
and
I'm
just
missing
it,
in
which
case
I
apologize,
but
just
for
a
sake
of
clarity.
You
know
it's
hypothetical,
so
it's
42
members
of
the
assembly,
someone
resigns.
Someone
is
appointed
to
replace
that
person,
the
the
bills
that
were
initially
attached
to
the
resigning
legislator.
G
G
C
Again,
jason
fryerson
for
the
record,
based
on
the
deadlines.
If
somebody
was
appointed
during
session,
they
would
already
have
missed
the
deadlines.
B
Assembly
when
woman
gonzales
district
16
for
the
record,
thank
you
chair.
I
don't
know
if
I
missed
it,
but
how
we
all
have
like
reporting
deadlines.
Would
they
wait
to
report
the.
C
E
Assemblywoman
dickman.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
had
a
quick
comment.
This
was
one
of
those
bills
that
hearing
it
clarified
the
intent
so
much
better.
So
thank
you
appreciate.
B
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman
and
with
that
see
no
additional
questions,
I
will
take
testimony
in
support
again.
We'll
first
start,
if
there's
anyone
here
in
the
room
that
would
like
to
come
to
the
front
to
testify
and
support
and
then
we'll
move
to
zoom
in
our
telephones,
and
please
remember
to
state
your
name
clearly
for
the
record
and
spell
it
and
you
will
have
two
minutes.
B
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
priscilla
maloney
m-a-l-o-n-e-y,
the
first
name
is
p-r-I-s-c-I-l-l-a
and
I'm
representing
the
afscme
4041
retiree
chapter
today,
and
you
may
say
to
yourself
well
what
does
this
have
to
do
with
right
retirees,
but
actually
our
third
law
and
legislate
in
our
law
and
legislative
committee?
Our
third
priority
this
session
is,
are
bills
that
have
to
do
with
the
the
proper
functioning
and
support
for
our
wonderful
citizen
legislature,
including
a
bill
like
this.
B
We
are
also
tracking
campaign
finance
bills.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
that
incorporated
into
this
and
then
finally,
not
at
issue
in
this
bill
is,
is
voter
access
and
as
one
thing
we
have
learned
as
an
organization
this
last
year,
we
really
appreciate
how
well
our
government
in
nevada
has
functioned
in
this
time
of
crisis,
and
so
we
very
much
thank
speaker
fryerson
for
bringing
this
bill.
B
We
want
to
support
good
people
like
yourselves
getting
what
they
can
well,
as
as
assemblyman
levitt
said
that
there
are
other
things
that
may
be
a
naming
of
a
county.
That
would
make
things
even
better,
but
again
some
some
support
for
the
incredible
job
that
our
citizen
legislature
is
faced
with
doing
when
they
are
not
given
full-time
compensation
for
their
actual
out-of-pocket
costs.
So
thank
you.
A
I
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
broadcasting
is
there.
Anyone
that
has
called
in
since
for
to
testify
and
support.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
with
that
I
will
close
the
testimony
for
those
calling
in
support
and
will
open
the
testimony
for
anyone
that
would
like
to
testify
in
opposition.
So
if
there's
anyone
in
the
room
that
would
like
to
testify
in
opposition,
I
don't
see
anyone
approaching
the
front,
so
I
will
then
broadcasting.
Can
we
open
the
telephone
lines
for
anyone
wishing
to
call
and
testify
in
opposition.
I
A
I
A
C
Thank
you
again,
madam
chair,
for
the
record
jason
fryerson
briefly.
Ab441
is
intended
to
allow
the
the
most
qualified
folks
to
be
eligible
to
serve
without
having
to
be
independently,
wealthy
and
and
have
an
extra
burden
that
the
rest
of
us
would
not
have
required
to
endure,
and
I
think
it
has
adequate
safeguards
to
make
sure
that
they
return
the
money.
So,
as
assemblyman
levitt
said,
none
of
us
are
in
this
for
the
money,
but
we
have
to
be
able
to
live
and
we
have
to
be
able
to.
C
You
know,
put
a
roof
over
our
heads
during
this
time
in
carson
city,
and
this
is
an
effort
for
anybody.
Who's
tried
to
recruit
candidates
to
run
for
office.
C
A
A
J
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
committee
members,
it
is
nice
to
be
here
in
person.
I
believe
I
testified
in
front
of
you
over
zoom,
but
it's
nice
to
be
here
up
close
and
personal
for
the
record,
I'm
steve
yeager,
I
represent
assembly
district
9,
which
is
in
southwest
las
vegas,
and
I
am
pleased
to
present
assembly
bill
443
for
your
consideration.
J
This
measure
revises
the
way
the
nevada
legislature
structures
its
interim
activities.
Now
I'm
looking
around
at
committee
members-
and
most
of
you
have
been
here
through
an
interim
or
two
a
few
of
you
have
not.
So
I
will
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
what
this
bill
does
and
then
answer
any
questions.
J
J
The
members
who
had
not
served
on
the
study
committee
did
not
have
the
benefit
of
sitting
through
important
testimony
and
in-depth
review
that
occurred
during
the
interim,
which
went
into
producing
the
legislation
as
early
as
the
1970s,
the
legislature
recognized
these
concerns.
With
our
current
structure,
there
was
a
lack
of
continuity
from
session
to
interim
to
the
next
session.
J
Recognizing
these
concerns
the
committee
to
consult
with
the
director
studied
this
issue
several
years
ago
and
adopted
recommendations
to
create
a
new
interim
committee
structure
based
on
the
existing
session
standing
committee
structure.
That
structure
is
what
you
see
established
here
in
the
provisions
of
assembly
bill
443.
J
J
J
Two
of
the
alternate
assembly
members
would
be
appointed
by
the
speaker,
and
one
alternate
would
be
appointed
by
the
minority
leader
of
the
three
senators.
Two
would
be
appointed
by
the
senate
majority
leader
and
one
would
be
appointed
by
the
senate
minority
leader,
and
then
the
alternates
would
be
one
apiece
from
the
senate
majority
leader
and
the
senate
minority
leader,
section,
seven
establishes
with
regard
to
quorum
and
voting
that
five
members
of
a
joint
interim
standing
committee
would
constitute
a
quorum.
J
J
J
J
J
The
commission
would
still
have
the
authority
to
direct
other
studies
that
could
be
outside
the
scope
or
purview
of
a
joint
interim
standing
committee,
or
that
might
be
deserving
of
a
special
legislative
attention
and
before
I
take
questions
I'll
just
note
that
those
of
you
who
have
served
in
the
interim
towards
the
end
of
session,
you
get
a
list
of
interim
committees
that
you
can
preference,
and
I
don't
know
how
many
there
are.
But
it
seems
like
there's
80
to
100
of
them
and
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
them
overlap.
J
A
And
thank
you
assemblyman
for
bringing
this
measure
for
forward
for
presenting
it.
I
I
forgot
to
mention
earlier
that
this
one
actually
does
come
from
the
committee
on
legislative
operations
and
elections,
but
you
were
so
kind
to
step
in
and
present
for
us.
Thank
you
with
that.
Our
first
question
comes
from
vice
chair,
houdini,.
D
Thank
you
so
much,
I'm
chair
miller,
thank
you
for
presenting
assemblyman
yeager.
I
think
this
is
such
a
great
bill.
I
remember
having
these
discussions
when
I
had
the
honor
of
carrying
legislative
operations
and
elections
with
my
policy.
Analyst
miss
carol
stonefield
at
the
time
and
and
always
wanting
this
to
come
to
fruition.
So
I'm
so
happy
that
I'm
actually
seeing
it
here
today,
but
just
to
clarify.
I
know,
for
example,
the
sunset
subcommittee,
and
I
think
I
know
the
answer,
but
I
just
want
to
reaffirm
it.
D
And
if
I
could
met
him
chair
just
to
follow
up
okay
and
then
also,
I
noticed
throughout
the
bill,
like
you
see,
you
can
see
how
the
references
are
changing
like
how
the
interim
committee
on
healthcare
becomes
the
interim
committee
on
health
and
human
services.
The
interim
committee
on
industrial
relations
becomes
the
interim
committee
on
judiciary.
D
Is
this
completely
in
eliminating
all
statutory
like
statutory
interim
committees
like,
and
I'm
asking
this
I've
said
on
this,
every
single
interim-
and
I
love
the
committee,
but
the
interim
committee
to
for
a
tahoe
regional
planning
agency
would
that
be
folded
into
natural
resources.
J
Steve
yeager
for
the
record
through
you,
madam
chair,
to
assemblywoman
haudegee.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
steve,
yeager
for
the
record.
I
I
think
that
one
continues
to
exist
and
I
think
we'll
hear
some
more
testimony
on
that,
but,
generally
speaking,
you're
right
that
most
of
them
are
folded
into
other
standing
committees.
I
think
the
one
exception
you'll
see
in
the
bill.
J
If
you
look
at
the
very
end
of
the
bill
on
this
on
page
45,
so
it's
your
second
to
last
page
of
text,
there's
a
lead
lines
of
repealed
sections,
so
that
section
that's
proposed
to
be
repealed
is
the
advisory
commission
on
the
administration
of
justice,
which
is
a
very
a
very
large
committee.
So
that's
the
one
that
very
clearly
gets
repealed
by
this
bill,
and
just
so
everyone
knows
I'm
you
know
having
some
further
discussions
about
that
committee.
I
I
had
the
pleasure
of
chairing
that
committee
in
two
interims
ago.
J
D
E
J
Steve
yeager
for
the
record,
a
good
question,
assemblywoman
dickman,
so
the
way
that
it
has
to
work
on
a
vote
is
it
has
to
be
a
majority
of
the
senators
and
a
majority
of
the
assembly
people.
So
you
know
you
would
need
three
of
five
assembly
people
and
two
of
three
senators.
So
it's
in
that
way.
It's
not
necessary.
If
it
was
like
four
or
four
vote,
it
would
fail
it
would.
It
would
need
five
votes
and
they
would
have
to
come
in
that
specific
way.
J
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
had
a
couple
of
questions.
The
the
first
is
one
that
I
don't
think
was
at
least
on
his
face.
Addressing
that
that
is
it.
It
seems
to
me,
am
I
hitting
the
wrong
button.
C
My
light
is
not
there,
we
go
my
light's,
not
working,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
this
and
an
indirect
benefit-
and
I
just
want
you
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong-
is
that
this
would
probably
save
a
significant
amount
of
money
in
staff
time,
because
currently
we
would
have
to
staff
several
random
interim
committees,
and-
and
this
would
allow
us
standing
committee
staffs
to
continue
to
serve
those
subject.
Matters
and
and
have
you
know,
be
be
spread
out
much
less
thinly.
C
So
am
I
misunderstanding,
or
it
just
seems
to
me
and
and
I'll
say
selfishly,
because
for
the
last
four
years
I've
been
the
one
to
have
to
appoint
all
of
these
interim
committees.
It
takes
a
great
deal
of
work
and
coordination,
and
if
we
already
have
a
structure
in
place,
it
would
certainly
save
time
in
that
aspect.
But
if
you
could
enlighten
me
to
some
extent
on
the
impact
that
this
would
have
on
lcb
staff
and
their
ability
to
be
more
efficient
with
how
they
staff
interim
committees.
J
Thank
you,
speaker
fryerson.
I
think
you,
you
have
indic.
You
have
recognized
one
of
the
issues
and
I
think
you're
absolutely
correct
in
your
analysis
that
you
know
during
a
typical
interim
and
I'll
grant.
You
last
interim
was
not
a
typical
interim
because
of
a
global
pandemic,
but
normally
it
seems
like
there
are
committees
meeting
every
day
and
they're
trying
to
decide
whether
they're
meeting,
whether
the
meeting
is
going
to
be
in
carson
city,
whether
it's
going
to
be
in
las
vegas
and
there's
a
lot
of
travel
and
staff.
J
Time
involved
in
staffing,
those
not
to
speak
of
just
the
difficulty
with
coordinating
people's
schedules,
since
most
of
us
have
jobs
during
the
interim.
So
I
think
this
would
save
time.
It
would
save
money,
not
just
during
the
interim
but
leading
into
a
session,
to
really
be
able
to.
You
know
to
take
an
example
of
this
committee.
J
If
there
was
a
an
interim
committee
on
legislative
operations
and
elections-
and
five
of
you
would
serve
on
that
interim
committee
and
then
presumably
would
come
back
and
several
of
you-
if
not
all
of
you
would
be
on
this
committee
again
so
you've
had
an
entire
interim
to
look
at
some
of
these
issues,
and
my
hope
would
be
that
you
know
we.
We
start
off
the
session
and
we
usually
have
a
lot
of
presentations
in
committees.
We
get
people
acclimated
to
the
topics.
C
So
I
may
have
just
a
couple
of
follow-ups-
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
this
question,
and
I
don't
know
if
this
weighed
into
how
many
bills
those
interim
committees
were
allocated
but
again,
having
had
to
appoint
so
many
interim
committees.
It
seems
to
me
that
another
impact
of
this
policy
would
be
fewer
bills.
C
J
Steve
yeager
for
the
record
speaker,
fires
and
I
think
I
think,
you're
correct
I'll-
have
to
do
an
analysis
of
because,
as
you
say,
there
are
certain
certain
statutory
committees
that
get
bdrs
and
usually
it's
10..
But
then
there
are
just
other
committees
that
we've
given
a
bdr
here:
we've
given
a
bdr
there,
so
I
do
think
the
net
impact
would
be
fewer
bdrs,
but
hopefully
more
well
vetted
bdrs,
because
any
of
you
have
served
on
interim
committees.
J
Sometimes
what
happens?
Is
you
get
to
that
work
session
at
the
end
and
no
one's
really
sure
about
what's
going
on,
because
maybe
you've
only
had
three
or
four
meetings
and
you
haven't
really
had
a
chance
to
dig
in
and
so
a
lot
of
those
concepts?
I
think
that
get
advanced
are
very
vague,
they're
very
unclear,
and
we
sort
of
hope
that
our
drafters
get
it
right
in
the
drafting
process,
and
you
know
they
do
a
wonderful
job
but
they're
limited
by
the
information
we
provide
them
for
how
to
draft
legislation.
J
C
One
final,
madam
chair,
if
I
may,
does
this
bill
pr,
prohibit
a
committee
chair
in
the
interim
from
forming
a
subcommittee
that
could
vet
an
issue
that
is
unique,
and
maybe
I
I
am
recalling
when
I
was
chair
of
judiciary
and
hoa
issues
was
where
the
policy
du
jour
and
we
formed
a
subcommittee
that
was
able
to
fully
vet
those
issues
separate
from
the
existing
committee.
C
J
Steve
yeager
for
the
record
speaker
fryerson,
I
don't
think
anything
in
the
bill
precludes
that
the
one
qualification
I'll
make
is
the
way
that
the
bill
is
drafted.
Now
when
we
got
to
the
point
of
that
interim
stand,
the
interim
joint
standing
committee
has
to
present
basically
a
work
plan
to
the
legislative
commission
to
say
these
are
all
the
things
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
this
interim
now.
Some
of
those
are
statutory
that
are
in
the
bill.
They
have
to
do
them,
but
I
think
the
chair
would
be
able
to
say.
J
I
would
also
like
to
examine
this
issue
or
have
a
subcommittee
that
gets
presented
to
the
legislative
commission
and
the
real
reason
for
that
is
we
have
to
budget
for
these?
How
many
meetings
are
we
talking
about
how
much
travel
time,
how
much
staff
time?
So
the
legislative
commission
is
going
to
have
a
role
there
to
play
in
coming
up
with
the
accurate
budget,
so
I
think
they
could
request
that.
J
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
maybe
I
missed
it
or
didn't
understand
so
these
interim
committees.
Would
they
have
control
over
the
committee
bills
that
come
before
the
regular
session,
or
is
that
still
going
to
be
later
on.
J
H
J
Steve
steve
yeager
for
the
record,
so
I
I
think
I
think
I
understand
the
question.
So
let
me
just
give
you
how
I
see
it
happening,
but
I
think
the
the
standing
committees,
the
the
interim
joint
committee,
so
the
ones
are
going
to
be
created
by
this
bill,
they're
all
going
to
have
10
bdrs
to
request
now
the
interesting
part
of
that
is,
you
have
membership
of
the
senate
and
the
assembly.
J
A
Thank
you,
and
could
we
would
legal,
maybe
be
able
to
respond
to
that.
B
J
J
So
I
think
by
condensing
these
you'll
have
to
do
an
analysis
of
it,
but
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
be
in
a
situation
where
there
will
be
more
bdrs
coming
out
of
an
interim.
I
think
there'll
be
fewer
as
a
whole
and
again
you
don't
have
to
request
all
10
as
well.
You
know
that
now
sometimes
we
think
that
we
all
I'll
do
that.
But
you
know,
if
you
have
an
interim,
that's
really
focused
on
one
or
two
issues,
maybe
only
request
a
few
of
those.
A
Thank
you.
I
I
have
a
a
question
assemblyman
and
I'm
just
wondering
because
there
seems
to
be
a
concern
about
where
everything
will
go
so
currently
now
we
know
that
in
the
assembly
that
we
refer
to
specific
committees
and
that
process
happens
on
the
floor
as
as
those
bills
are
coming
in,
so
is
there
a
process?
We
we
talked
about
the
senate
majority
leader
and
the
assembly
speaker
is
there:
will
they
determine?
J
Steve
yeager
for
the
record,
so
a
couple
things
and
I'll
answer
it
this
way,
and
hopefully
this
gets
at
the
heart
of
the
question,
but
I
think
there's
sort
of
two
two
parts
to
that
question:
one
is
what
is
what
is
the
interim
joint
standing
committee
going
to
do,
and
some
of
that
is
statutory,
but
if
there
are
additional
topics
or
if
we
pass
interim
study
bills,
I
think
the
ledge
commission
would
be
the
the
appropriate
authority
to
decide
which
of
the
new
joint
standing.
J
J
Do
those
start
in
the
assembly
to
those
start
in
the
senate,
and
I
think
lcb
has
a
process
for
probably
divvying
those
up
in
some
sort
of
fair
way,
so
that
the
workload
between
the
senate
and
the
assembly
would
hopefully
be
the
same,
because
that
that
is
a
little
different
now
you
know
typically
with
us,
like
a
study
committee,
we
would
do
now.
Usually,
whoever
the
chair
of
the
committee
is
whatever
house
the
chair
is
from
that's,
where
the
bills
would
start.
Although
I
think
this
session,
we
saw
some
exceptions
to
that.
A
Okay
and
again,
I'm
confident
in
the
process.
I
would
like
to
clarify
if
we
could,
with
speaker
fryerson
as
he
does
participate
in
making
these
assignments.
C
Thank
you,
adam
chair.
I
I
just
felt
compelled
to
come
to
to
clarify
during
session
majority
leadership
decides
where
bills
go
so
this
would
not
be
able
to
tie
those
hands.
There
are
times
where
a
bill,
that
is
by
chapter
regarding
government
affairs,
but
by
substance,
might
be
more
appropriate
for
judiciary
and
majority
leadership
consent.
You
know
that
we
did
it
just
today
in
assigning
bills
and
that's
what
that's
what
we
do
when
we
have
second
reading,
is
we
just
our
introductions?
Rather?
C
Is
we
decide
so
this
would
not
change
that
that
the
way
that
session
operates
is
is
not
impacted.
By
this
we
have
our
standing
rules
of
how
bills
get
assigned,
and
that
would
remain.
A
A
A
Not
seeing
any
questions,
then
thank
you
for
presenting
this
for
us
assemblyman
yeager,
and
I
will
open
it
up
for
anyone
that
would
like
to
testify
and
support
again.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
we
ask
that
you
state
your
name
clearly
and
spell
it
for
the
record.
I
will
first
open
it
up
to
anyone
that
would
like
to
testify
in
support.
That's
here
in
the
room
not
seeing
anyone
approach.
I
will
then
open
it
up
to
the
telephones.
So
broadcasting,
can
you
please
open
the
lines.
I
I
Caller,
with
the
last
three
digits
five
zero
zero,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin
hi.
My
name
is
helen
foley
h-e-l-e-n-f-o-l-e-y,
and
I
am
delighted
to
speak
on
behalf
and
in
support
of
this
legislation
today,
as
a
former
assemblywoman
and
state
senator
and
also
a
lobbyist
for
many
decades.
I
This
is
not
coming
soon
enough.
It's
been
very
frustrating
to
see
interim
committees
where
you
put
your
heart
and
soul
into
something,
and
then,
when
you
get
to
the
legislative
session,
everyone
has
moved
on
to
something
else
or
they're
on
different
committees,
and
they
don't
have
the
dedication
and
passion
to
the
issue.
I
We
also
find
many
times
during
the
interim
that
unforeseen
issues
arise
and
it
would
be
ideal
to
be
able
to
have
one
of
these
standing
committees
be
able
to
deal
with
the
issue
seamlessly,
and
so
I
congratulate
steve,
yeager
and
and
everyone
that
has
been
supporting
these
issues.
It's
a
long
time
coming.
I
know
I
was
working
a
couple
of
sessions
ago
with
nicole
canazzaro
trying
to
to
get
this
into
place.
It
makes
so
much
more
sense
than
what
we
currently
have,
and
I
congratulate
you
and
urge
you
for
its
passage.
I
A
F
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
holly
wellborn.
Do
I
have
to
spell
that
h-o-l-l-y
w-e-l-b-o-r-n,
I'm
the
policy
director
for
the
aclu
nevada.
You
all
look
amazing.
It's
wonderful
to
be
here
in
person
with
you
today.
My
my
opposition
to
this
bill
is
quite
passive
and
in
fact
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
my
dear
friend
helen
foley,
just
shared
with
you
all,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
for
this
committee
to
understand
some
of
the
consequences
of
dissolving
interim
committees.
F
F
By
dissolving
the
aci,
we
are
choosing
to
dissolve
one
of
the
only
committees
in
the
state
where
we
have
an
inmate
advocate
and
where
we
have
a
victim
advocate
who
are
voting
members
of
those
commissions
that
commission
there's
also
the
nevada
sentencing
commission,
where
I
am
also
appointed
as
the
inmate
advocate,
where
there
also
is
a
victim
advocate
to
serve,
who
can
weigh
in
on
some
of
these
issues.
But
that
is
an
executive
commission
that
does
have
some.
F
That
committee
is
that
commission
is
quite
unbalanced.
It's
not
equal
voices
on
each
side
of
the
issue,
those
victims,
rights
voices
and
the
the
inmate
rights
voices
are
often
outweighed
by
other
interests
on
that
commission.
So
we're
not
fully
opposed
to
dissolving
it,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
for
the
record
to
reflect
what
that
will
mean
in
terms
of
advocacy
for
both
victim
advocates
and
for
inmate
advocates,
but
my
most
pressing
concern
is
dissolving
the
child
welfare
and
juvenile
justice
committee.
F
A
That
was
your
two
minutes,
and
so
I
I
would
invite
invite
you
to
submit
the
rest
of
your
concerns
in
you
know
directly,
so
that
we
can
get
them
in
on
the
record
and
of
course,
you
know
that
you're
more
than
welcome
to
speak
with
individual
members
to
continue
on
to
share
your
concerns.
A
D
Thank
you,
chair
for
your
indulgence
and
thank
you,
miss
wilborne
for
sticking
around
to
answer
my
question,
but
do
you
think
that
they
would
be
able
to
still
perform
their
same
functions
if
they
were
a
subcommittee?
I
know
that
the
sponsor
kind
of
touched
on
the
fact
that
each
standing
interim
committee
can
appoint
a
subcommittee
to
study
certain
issues
that
they
feel
might
need
more
attention.
So
would
you
still
be
able
to
perform
the
same
functions?
I
think
I
don't.
F
Thank
you
chair
through
you
to
assembly
woman,
heidi.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question
and
that's
what
I
was
intending
to
wrap
up.
My
testimony
with
is
some
recommendations.
What
I
would
like
to
see
is
a
subcommittee
of
the
judiciary
committee,
that
is,
on
youth
justice
issues.
I
think
that's
the
right
solution
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
assemblyman
jaeger
on
an
amendment
to
that
and
I'm
holly
welborn
policy
director
for
the
aclu
of
nevada
for
the
record.
Thank
you.
A
And
thank
you
for
that.
With
that,
I
would
like
to
open
the
lines
for
anyone
testifying
in
opposition
that
is
on
the
phone.
So
broadcasting
do
we
have
anyone
on
the
lines.
I
A
Thank
you
for
that.
I
would
like
to
open
up
test.
I
would
close
testimony
in
opposition
and
open
it
for
anyone
testifying
in
neutral,
seeing
no
one
in
the
room
approaching
for
neutral.
I
would
like
to
open
up
the
lines
so
broadcasting
do
we
have
anyone
in
the
queue
that
would
like
to
testify
in
neutral.
I
B
A
A
J
Remarks,
steve
yeager
for
the
record,
I'm
just
to
address
a
couple
of
things:
one
to
make
clear
the
bill
would
not
eliminate
any
executive
branch
committees,
so
the
sentencing
commission
is
now
within
the
executive
branch.
So
this
this
only
applies
to
committees
that
are
staffed
by
the
legislative
council
bureau.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
was
clear
with
respect
to
the
advisory
commission
on
the
administration
of
justice.
J
Clearly
a
committee
that's
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
one
of
the
issues
we've
had
with
that
committee,
though,
is
they
don't
have
any
bill
draft
requests
and
we've
resisted
giving
them
bill
draft
requests,
and
I
think
for
good
reason,
but
I
do
think
moving
some
of
their
duties
into
this
interim
joint
standing
committee
solves
that
problem,
because
often
on
that
committee
you
get
to
the
end
of
the
process.
You
have
a
work
session
and
there
are
like
12
or
15
ideas
and
zero
bdrs.
J
So
it's
up
to
the
members,
the
legislative
members
of
that
committee.
There
are
four
of
them
to
request
those
measures
and
some
of
them
don't
get
requested,
but,
as
miss
welborn
stated,
we're
certainly
still
talking
about
some
of
these
concepts.
I
very
much
appreciate
her
concern
about
juvenile
issues
and
those
sometimes
do
get
lost
in
the
broader
discussion
of
judiciary.
J
So
I'll
continue
to
work
with
her
on
seeing
if
we
can
find
a
solution
for
that
and
then
so,
just
in
closing
assembly
bill
443
is
designed
to
address
the
conceptual
inefficiency
that
others
have
identified
in
our
interim
study
structure.
We
spend
so
much
time
and
money
jumping
into
these
complex
policy
issues
and
conceptual
matters.
During
the
interim,
we
vet
the
solutions
thoroughly
before
the
committees
to
send
them
to
the
session.
However,
these
bills
are
often
sent
to
committees
whose
members
were
not
there
for
the
discussion.
J
A
Our
next
agenda
item
is
to
take
public
comment
and
again
each
person
will
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
for
up
to
two
minutes
and
we
ask
that
it's
a
topic
that
is
under
the
purview
of
this
committee.
Please
again
state
your
name
and
spell
it
for
the
record
and
broadcasting
when
you're
ready.
Please
open
up
the
lines
for
anyone
wishing
to
make
public
comment.