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A
Hello,
everyone.
I
would
like
to
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
welcome
everyone
viewing
online
with
us
or
participating
in
the
zoom
to
the
assembly
committee
on
legislative
operations
and
elections.
With
that,
I
would
ask
our
committee
secretary
to
please
call
the
role.
D
A
A
With
that
again,
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that,
in
order
to
testify
on
any
of
our
bills,
during
the
hearing
that
you
need
to
register
with
on
the
agenda
once
it's
posted
and
it
will
give
you
the
actual
registration
code
and
everything
that
you
need
to
participate
in
the
meeting.
If
you
choose
to
testify,
when
we
get
to
the
portion
where
you
will
be
testifying,
please
make
sure
to
speak
clearly
for
them
for
the
record
and
also
state
your
first
and
last
name,
committee
members.
Of
course.
A
A
We
will
have
public
comment
at
the
end
of
the
agenda,
and
so
with
that,
we
would
like
to
jump
into
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
actually
a
bill.
Hearing
on
ab166
ab166
is
sponsored
by
assemblyman
haven
and
this
measure
establishes
disclosure
requirements
related
to
certain
election
related
communications.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
good
afternoon
committee
members,
gregory
hafen
ii
representing
assembly,
district
36,
and
I
have
sponsored
assembly
bill
166
and,
as
the
chair
started
out,
we
all
are
using
more
and
more
electronic
means
of
communication,
and
I
would
just
like
to
take
a
moment
and
acknowledge
the
covet
pandemic
and
that
we've
all
struggled
with
the
the
lockdowns
and
the
the
deaths
in
that
we've
now
seen
more
and
more
electronic
means
of
communications,
especially
via
text
messages
during
the
campaign
system
and
existing
law,
which
is
codified
under
nrs
2948-348,
currently
requires
individuals,
political
action
committees,
political
parties
and
committees
sponsored
by
political
parties
to
clearly
identify
who
paid
for
the
communication.
E
This
is
required
when
the
individual
or
entity
spends
more
than
100
for
political
advertising,
and
the
communication
is
created
to
advocate
for
the
election
or
defeat
of
a
candidate,
a
group
of
candidates
or
to
solicit
donations.
However,
this
provision
is
dated
and
specifically
applies
to
communications
through
television,
radio,
newspaper
magazines,
outdoor
advertising
and
mailing.
E
In
this
past
election
cycle.
With
more
and
more
text
messages
being
used,
I
heard
from
many
constituents
that
they
were
frustrated
that
their
privacy
was
continuously
being
interrupted
and
they
could
not
figure
out
who
was
sending
all
of
these
text
messages
consistent
with
current
law.
This
is
only
required
when
the
individual
or
entity
spends
more
than
one
hundred
dollars
and
the
communication
advocates
for
the
election
or
defeat
of
a
candidate
or
a
group
of
candidates
or
solicits
a
contribution.
E
A
Assemblymen
are
these
what
you're
gonna
show
us?
Is
this
already
loaded
onto
nellis.
E
And
okay
assembly
bill
166
campaign
text
messages,
so
here's
the
first
example
of
the
type
of
disclosure
that
is
my
intent
for
this
bill.
It
simply
says
hi.
This
is
william
with
the
silver
standard
for
nevada
committee
and
then
goes
on
to
explain
whatever
the
message
is
very
simple,
very
short.
E
E
E
Www.Jonesmustgo.Com
here's
another
example
where
we
use
the
utilize
a
website
to
further
disclose
who
is
sending
the
message
this
one,
the
bullfrog
county
republican
party,
would
like
to
thank
joe
for
his
12
wonderful
years
of
service
in
carson
city,
and
then
this
one
addresses
a
political
action
committee.
This
is
kelly
at
atz
pack
wanting
you
to
know
we're
having
a
fundraiser.
We
hope
that
you
can.
E
And
trying
to
figure
this
out
there
we
go
and
then,
madam
chair,
if
I.
E
May
move
on
to
just
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
The
committee's
consideration
of
assembly
bill
166,
myself
and
mark
washington
from
the
deputy
who's.
A
deputy
at
the
secretary
of
state's
for
election
of
in
the
elections
department
is
on
the
phone
for
any
questions
that
you
or
the
committee
may
have.
A
Great,
thank
you,
assemblyman
committee
members.
Do
we
have
any
questions.
B
Hello,
assemblywoman
gonzalez
district
16
for
the
record.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation.
Would
this
bill
apply
to
all
text
messages
so
even
including,
like
the
force
degree,
type
of
text
messages
and
then
does
it
apply
to
text
messages
that
come
out
of
state.
E
Oh
okay,
assemblywoman
gonzales.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
The
intent
for
this
is
is
for
political,
political
advertisements,
political
text
messages,
and
I
was
trying
to
hear
you-
and
I
think
you
mentioned,
that
the
c3s
such
as
the
non-profits,
that
is
not
the
intent
of
what
we're
doing
here.
The
intent
of
this
bill
is
strictly
for
political
messaging
through
the
text
messages
and
to
really
make
things
more,
consistent
and
transparent,
as
we've
done
with
print
text,
print
messages
and
newspaper
magazine.
E
Advertisements-
and
I
believe
you
asked
about
the
monetary
threshold-
there
is
a
monetary
threshold
of
100,
so
it
would
be
any
time
the
messages
are
being
sent
that
would
exceed
that
100
threshold.
B
For
example,
I
can
think
of,
I
think,
like
there's
many
different
apps
that
you
can.
You
know,
spend
two
three
four
hundred
dollars
and
text
your
face
with.
So
how
are
we
able
to
know
that
they
that
they're
spending
more
than
a
hundred
dollars
on
this
program.
E
And
again,
thank
you,
assemblywoman
gonzalez,
for
the
question.
From
my
perspective,
the
way
that
this
would
work
would
be
very
similar
to
the
print
mail
pieces,
and
so,
if
you
send
out
a
mass
mail
piece,
obviously
it
is
a
very
difficult
task
to
determine
whether
or
not
it
exceeds
the
hundred
hundred
dollar
threshold,
and
I
know
mr
lawson
can
probably
touch
base
on
it
a
little
bit
more
but
again
the
intent
is,
is
for
consistency
amongst
the
different
types
of
media
that
you
know.
E
We
are
now
going
to
be
using
in
this
this
realm,
and
I
don't
know
if
mr
lawson
wants
to
to
add
anything
to
that.
G
G
G
A
Okay-
and
I
just
as
a
follow-up
to
your
question,
assemblywoman
just
so
that
it's
clearing
on
the
record,
I
know
your
question
was:
would
this
pertain
to
c3s
and
c4s?
A
I
do
have
documentation
of
that,
but
I
want
to
pull
it
up
right
now,
legal's,
not
with
us
in
the
hearing,
because
they're
drafting
bills
right
now.
So
I
will.
I
will
get
that
for
us,
though,
but
thank
you
for
your
questions.
Next,
we
have
a
question
from
assemblywoman.
C
Dickens,
thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair,
just
a
quick
question
for
you
clearly
from
the
examples
that
you
gave,
you
don't
expect
people
to
do
the
long.
You
know
standard
disclosure,
but
could
it
be?
Could
this
bill
be
interpreted?
C
Could
the
statute
if
we
pass
this
bill,
be
interpreted
to
require
the
you
know
paid
for
and
approved
by
the
committee
to
elect
this
big
long
thing.
E
Assemblywoman
dickman,
I
appreciate
that
question
and,
and
that
is
in
no
way
shape
my
intent
to
this
bill.
My
intent
to
this
bill
is
is
to
be
very
transparent,
however,
have
flexibility
in
the
way
that
the
candidate
chooses
to
disclose
how
the
you
know
who's
paying
for
it,
as
well
as
give
the
secretary
of
state's
office
the
flexibility
to
ensure
that
proper
disclosure
is
being
handled.
E
I
know
the
secretary
of
state's
had
a
number
of
issues
with
text
messages
this
at
least
this
last
election
cycle
and
trying
to
track
down
how
that
communications
being
paid
for
and
who's
sending.
Those
messages
out
has
become
a
very
tedious
task
and
so
any
way
of
trying
to
help
get
that
message
across
of
who's
actually
paying
for
it.
E
I
believe
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
awesome,
it
will
help
the
secretary
of
state's
office
in
their
investigation
and
hopefully
reduce
some
of
the
time
that
is
spent
tracking
some
of
these
down.
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
Next
we
have
assemblywoman
taurus.
F
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
someone
hayden
for
the
presentation.
I
appreciate
the
intent
of
this
legislation.
I
I'm
sure,
like
many
of
my
colleagues,
my
phone
was
going
off
every
other
minute
during
the
last
last
election
and
you
know
reaching
out
to
constituents.
F
A
lot
of
parties
were
interested
to
know
who
who
was
contacting
them
and
recognized
that
it
was
a
lot
of
different
organizations
at
once.
So
I
appreciate
the
intent
of
this
legislation,
and
so
I
I
have
two
different
parts
to
my
question.
F
The
first
part
of
my
question
is
I
just
want
to
guarantee
that
this
legislation
is
strong
enough
for
political
candidates
to
put
just
links
to
like
their
website
to
ensure
so
that
they
can
kind
of
be
directed
there
to
find
out
where
it's
paid
for
obviously,
text
messages
only
have
so
many
characters,
and
so
I
would
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
will
help
shorten
that,
so
the
candidate
can
still
use
this
as
a
way
to
convey
their
message.
F
Additionally,
I
just
want
to
understand
whether
or
not
this
applies
to
pictures
or
videos.
I
know
during
the
campaign
that
I
got
a
number
of
those
types
of
digital
communications
via
text
as
well,
and
I
just
want
to
see
if
this
would
be
applicable
to
that.
E
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
torres.
That
is
exactly
what
I'm
I'm
intending
with
this
bill
language.
If,
if
it's
the
website-
and
actually
I've
also-
and
I
didn't-
have
an
example
of
this-
but
I've
also
envisioned
just
allowing
someone
to
use
just
a
bit
link,
because
we
know
that
the
bit
links
can
be
a
lot
shorter
than
the
full
website,
and
I
don't
want
to
over
burden.
I
mean,
I
believe,
the
text
messages
are
limited
to
about
320
characters,
and
so
we
don't
want
to
burden
it
with
a
50
character.
E
You
know
paid
for
disclosure.
We
want
to
make
this
very
simple,
but
also
transparent
in
regards
to
the
pictures
and
the
videos.
Absolutely
that
was
my
initial
intent
is
that
when
people
start
sending
pictures
that
that
could
easily
be
be
added
to
the
picture
and
in
addition
to
just
the
text.
A
C
Good
evening
assembly,
I'm
sorry
good
morning,
chairwoman
and
happy
birthday.
Thank
you,
my
question,
assemblyman
haven.
C
You
know
I'm
I'm
trying
to
not
read
into
ab166,
but
it
I
am
because
I
want
to
know
you
put
a
dollar
amount
in
there,
which
is
you
know,
basically
the
campaign.
Whoever
is
doing
it.
It
expends
more
than
a
hundred
dollars,
but
I'm
thinking
that,
eventually
you
or
someone
else
will
come
in
and
take
that
out
amended
just
to
have
zero
dollar
meaning
you
want
to
know
everyone
that
sends
a
text
message
who
it
is
their
name.
C
So
you
know
I
have
a
an
issue
with
the
way
this
is
written
and
whether
or
not
something
else
is
coming
down
the
pike.
Why
did
you
even
put
that
in
there
when
you
really
want
to
know
when
people
send
a
text
message
out
who's,
sending
it
out,
and
why
wasn't
it
just
put
in
that.
E
Way
and
assemblywoman
thomas,
that
is
an
excellent
question.
The
the
hundred
dollars
is,
is
actually
the
current
language.
So
currently
any
paid
political
advertisement
that
is
in
excess
of
a
hundred
dollars
has
to
have
the
paid
for
on,
and
so
this
language
is
just
to
say,
hey
text
messages
currently
don't
have
to
have
any
disclosure
whatsoever.
E
That
discusses
all
the
other
means
of
communication
and
campaigning,
and
it
is
it's
not
my
intent
to
go
beyond
that
ever.
I
think
that
that
what
we
have
is
sufficient-
and
I
really
just
want
to
make
everything
kind
of,
on
the
same
level
playing
field.
A
I
have
a
question
assemblyman
just
for
clarification,
and,
and
so
I
know
that
the
current
law
is
a
hundred
dollars
for
the
purpose
you
know
of
advertising
or
any
type
of
that
political
activity,
and
I
appreciate
that
you're
literally
just
you
know,
when
laws
were
written,
we
didn't
necessarily
have
text
messages
or
necessarily
have
the
means
to
promote
campaigns
through
text
messages.
So
I
I
do
understand
that
you're,
just
trying
to
you
know
bring
everything
current,
but
with
that
hundred
dollars.
A
Is
that,
like
an
accumulative
or
a
hundred
dollars
per
advertisement,.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
refer
to
the
expert
in
this
matter
and
how
that's
currently
being
handled
with
all
of
the
others,
and
and
so,
mr
wilson,
if
you
chime
in
on
that,
I
would
greatly
appreciate
that.
G
Absolutely
thank
you.
Assemblyman
mark
velasco,
deputy
secretary
of
state
for
elections
for
the
record
as
the
cat.
The
statue
currently
stands.
It
does
identify
a
hundred
dollar
limitation
before
this.
The
statute
would
apply
really
that
that's
never
been
the
issue
for
us
when
it
comes
to
compliance.
G
Since
2014
we've
had
approximately
18
formal
complaints
about
this
statute,
usually
it
relates
to
signs
that
just
don't
have
paid
for
by,
but
again,
as
you
can
imagine,
we
aren't
necessarily
going
out
looking
at
the
number
of
signs
finding
the
publisher
to
identify
how
much
those
cost
and
then
only
addressing
those
individual
organizations
that
have
crested
that
100
limit.
G
Generally
speaking,
when
signs
are
mass-produced,
they're
identified
as
being
an
issue
that
that's
how
we
identify
and
again
begin
the
compliance
discussion
for
these
text
messages,
it
would
be
something
similar
if
there
were
text
messages
that
we
were
made
aware
of
that
were
out
of
compliance.
The
first
step
would
be
to
investigate
to
get
in
touch
with
the
organization
again
if
it
came
back
that
it
was
not
above
a
certain
cap
that
might
be
part
of
it,
but
but
ultimately
again
those
sorts
of
discussions.
G
We
bring
to
the
attorney
general's
office
for
discussion
to
find
out
again
if
the
lack
of
compliance
accounts
for
again,
I'm
not
a
text
message
expert.
G
Perhaps
my
kids
are
but
one
day
again,
it
may
be
possible
to
email
out
the
text
message
without
making
it
cost
100.
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible
currently,
but
but
that
sort
of
discussion
again
we
would
look
at
the
compliance
piece
of
it
as
again
as
it
pertains
to
the
statute
and
then
bring
questions
of
that
nature.
To
the
attorney
general
for
discussion.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
I'm
just
saying
that,
because
while
a
hundred
dollars
doesn't
sound
like
a
lot,
the
truth
is,
you
know
many
of
us
when
we're
starting
off
to
campaign.
You
don't
have
you
know
the
resources
that
you'd
want
to
have,
and
so
sometimes
you
get
a
little
bit.
Do
a
little
bit
get
a
little
bit
do
a
little
bit,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
on
that.
But
yeah
we'll
follow
up
with
clarification
on
that.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Any
additional.
A
Okay,
not
seeing
any
right
now,
then
we
can
move
on
to
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
166.,
so
broadcasting,
please
open
in
whoever
you
have
in
the
queue
and
again
just
would
like
to
remind
anyone
calling
in
for
support
to
please
state
your
name,
your
first
and
last
name
for
the
record,
and
also
you
will
have
two
minutes
so
broadcasting
when
you're
ready.
D
D
D
H
Madam
chair,
madame
vice
chair,
this
is
doug
goodman
d-o-u-g-g-o-o-d-m-a-n,
I'm
founder
and
executive
director
for
nevadans
for
election
reform.
H
Transparency,
especially
in
today's
political
environment,
is
so
critical,
and
I
would
like
to
thank
assemblyman
haythan
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
to
add
a
new
piece,
that
of
communication
that
was
not
around
when
this
legislation
was
originally
done
and
we
fully
support
this
bill.
Thank.
H
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Can
we
open
the
calls
for
anyone
in
opposition.
D
I
Good
afternoon,
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
melissa.
Clement
c-l-e-m-e-n-t,
I
am
with
nevada
rights,
live
I'm
calling
in
today
in
opposition
to
ab166.
So
I
understand
the
intent
of
the
bill.
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
challenging
at
this
point.
Texting
is
a
new
technology,
one
that
we
utilized
in
this
last
election.
I
We
are
trying
to
regulate
it
within
a
framework
developed
by
telephone
billboards
and
newspapers.
It
really
doesn't
even
compare
to
say,
google
ads
or
facebook
ads
text
messaging
is
character,
limited
it's
limited
to
160
characters
per
message.
While
those
messages
can
be
stored
together
it
increases
the
cost
and
for
a
small
organization
like
mine
that
can
be
challenging.
I
I
would
encourage
you
to
maybe
work
some
more
on
this
and
and
see
if
we
can
do
something
that
takes
care
of
the
problem,
but
also
allows
creativity
and
agility
for
a
small
organization.
Thank
you.
So.
D
I
Lynn,
chapman
l-y-n-n
c-h-a-p-m-a-n
on
the
stage,
I'm
the
state
treasurer
of
the
independent
american
party,
I'm
bringing
janine
hansen,
our
state
chairman
of
the
independent
american
party's
testimony,
the
independent
american
party,
opposes
ab-166
every
additional
requirement
placed
by
government
on
political
free
speech.
The
most
critical
and
important
kind
of
free
speech
interferes
and
harms
the
exercise
of
political
free
speech
and
our
ability
to
remain
free
ab166
requires,
in
the
very
limited
space
of
a
text
message
for
the
committee,
sponsoring
the
text
message
to
be
identified.
I
This
will
cost
more
money
and
will
limit
the
opportunity
for
candidates
and
committees
with
limited
funds
to
participate
in
the
political
process.
All
of
these
campaign
disclosure
laws
are
designed
to
harm
minor
parties
and
challengers
to
the
monopoly
powers
that
be
as
a
candidate
for
the
independent
american
party
people
tell
janine.
I
can't
give
you
more
than
a
hundred
dollars
because
I
will
then
be
on
the
secretary
of
state's
website
and
the
party.
I
The
powers
that
be
will
come
after
me
and
that's
how
it
works,
suppress
your
opponent's
ability
to
raise
money
and
you
suppress
their
free
speech.
These
laws
are
specifically
designed
to
stifle
and
suppress
the
free
speech
of
all,
but
the
chosen
and
anointed
of
the
monopoly
parties.
Our
founders
understood
that
anonymous
free
speech
was
at
the
center
of
the
meaning
of
free
speech.
The
more
reporting
requirements
in
law,
the
more
political
free
speech
is
suppressed.
I
The
independent
american
party
believes
in
liberty
and
opposes
ab166
george
washington
said
quote:
if
freedom
of
speech
is
taken
away,
then
dumb
and
silent,
we
may
be
led
like
sheep
to
the
slaughter
unquote,
and
I
think
that's
something
we
should
be
thinking
about,
but
I
do
want
to
say
happy
birthday
to
chair
woman
miller.
Thank
you.
D
D
Chair
this
is
michael
from
broadcast.
The
line
is
open
and
working.
However,
we
have
no
callers
to
testify
in
neutral
at
this
time.
A
Okay,
thank
you
not
seeing
anyone
else
to
testify
on
the
bill.
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
ab166.
Thank
you,
assemblyman
hathan,
for
your
presentation
and
for
bringing
this
legislation
forward
with
that.
I
will
also
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
public
comment
again
broadcasting.
Please
prepare
anyone
in
the
queue
with
public
comment
the
same.
We
would
appreciate
if
you
could
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes.
A
Each
also,
please
make
sure
you
state
your
name,
but
your
first
and
last
name
clearly
for
the
record
and
with
that
broadcasting,
when
you're
ready.
D
D
A
Okay,
well
not
having
any
callers,
then
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
that
agenda
item.
It
just
would
like
to
let
everyone
know
that
the
agenda
will
be
posted
for
the
next
meeting
yeah.
It's
not
scheduled
that!
Well,
actually,
I'm
sorry!
The
agenda
will
be.
We
don't
have
a
meeting
on
thursday,
but
the
next
agenda
will
be
posted
soon.
So
with
that,
I
will
close
the
meeting
for
today.
Today's
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank.