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A
D
A
Here
please
assemblywoman
carlton
present
and
please
mark
assemblyman
titus
present
as
she
arrives.
We
have
a
quorum
with
that.
We
have
one
presentation
on
our
agenda
today
from
the
state
forester
fire
warden
on
wildfires
in
nevada,
and
we
will
try
and
keep
the
meeting
moving
since
we
have
some
more
meetings
on
the
schedule
for
this
evening.
A
few
quick
housekeeping
announcements
before
we
start.
A
A
A
Asm.State.Nv.Us
before
during
48
hours
after
the
committee's
meeting,
exhibits
or
amendments
must
be
submitted
electronically,
as
a
pdf
to
our
committee
manager
no
later
than
4
pm
the
business
day
prior
to
the
meeting.
A
We
ask
that
any
public
comments
be
kept
to
two
minutes
so
that
all
speakers
can
be
accommodated
and
that
we
can
keep
the
agenda
moving
and
get
through
it
in
a
timely
fashion.
Speakers
are
urged
to
avoid
repetitive
comments
that
have
been
made
by
previous
speakers
and,
as
a
final
reminder,
it
is
unlawful
for
a
person
to
knowingly
misrepresent
the
facts
when
testifying
before
a
legislative
committee.
A
A
So
with
that,
I
believe
we
can
go
on
to
our
presentation
on
wildfires
in
nevada.
So
with
that
the
presenter
can
begin
whenever
you're
ready
just
state
your
name
for
the
record,
and
you
may
begin.
C
Thank
you
for
the
record.
Casey
casey
state
forester
fire
warden
for
the
nevada
division
of
forestry.
I
am
going
to
share
my
screen
with
you
here
all
right.
So
thank
you
for
having
me
here
today,
chair
watts
and
members
of
the
committee
to
speak
to
wildfire
in
nevada.
Oh.
C
So
fire
I'll
start
with
what
fire
season
2020
looked
like
for
us.
We
had
a
total
of
802
fire
starts
across
the
state
burning
about
292,
000
acres.
This
this
is
kind
of
a
different
year
for
us,
in
that
our
fire
starts
were
significantly
up.
Our
average
is
about
600
fire
starts
per
year.
We
were
up
significantly
this
year.
In
addition,
our
fire
start
the
cause
of
the
fires.
We
were
significantly
up
in
human
human-caused
starts
and
human-caused
acres.
C
I
believe
that
might
be
correlated
to
how
many
people
were
outdoors
because
of
kevin,
but
this
year
68
percent
of
our
starts
were
human-caused
and
76
of
our
acres
were
human
caused.
Our
five-year
average
is
about
52
percent
of
the
starts
and
28
of
the
acres.
Usually
our
lightning
caused
fires
are
the
much
larger
fires.
C
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
talk
about
quickly
was
the
covet
impacts.
We,
as
a
collective
body,
state
federal
local
government,
realized
pretty
early
that
there
were
going
to
be
effects
on
fire
suppression
response
due
to
covid19.
Primarily,
our
concern
was
getting
enough
ground
crews,
either
from
them
being
impacted
by
actually
responding
to
cove.
The
coveted
response,
or
just
not
being
able
to
travel
across
state
lines,
so
the
blm,
the
forest
service,
local
government,
fish
and
wildlife
service
and
the
bureau
of
indian
affairs
got
together
very
early
on
in
the
season.
C
We
increased
staffing
where
we
could,
across
the
state
we
put
in
some
strict
guidelines
on
how
we
were
going
to
manage
the
covid
issue
with
firefighters
and
still
keep
them
safe
throughout
the
state,
and
we
collectively
came
up
with
a
state
federal
local
government
plan
for
how
we
were
going
to
manage
that
and
we
increased
our
air
assets
across
the
state,
helicopters,
scoopers
and
other
response,
so
that
we
could
ensure
that
if
we
didn't
have
the
ground
crews,
we
would
at
least
have
the
air
assets
until
we
could
get
the
ground.
C
I've
traditionally
show
you
this
graph
every
couple
years.
The
reason
we
do
this
is
not
because
we
care
more
about
the
humboldt
watershed
than
other
watersheds
across
the
state,
but
this
does
depict
two
things
for
the
state.
This
is
an
indicator
of
all
watersheds
across
the
state
and
the
reason
this
is
important:
we've
overlaid,
the
actual
acres
burned
each
year
over
the
water,
the
water
flows
in
the
humboldt
watershed.
C
One
of
the
things
that's
important
to
note
here
is:
if
you
look
at
the
first
20
years,
1980
to
1999,
we
burnt
about
4
million
acres
across
just
over
4
million
acres
across
the
state
of
nevada.
We
were
averaging
about
208
000
acres
a
year
which
you
can
see
the
highest
year
on
record
was
1999
at
one
point
at
just
below
1.8
million
acres.
That
was
an
anomaly.
We
didn't
have
years
quite
that
large
in
those
20
years
in
the
last
21
years,
really
from
2000
to
2020.
C
We've
burnt,
just
shy
of
10
million
acres
across
the
state
and
we're
averaging
about
500
000
acres
a
year,
so
we're
seeing
more
of
these
peak
fire
seasons
and
they
really
do
the
the
reason
we
overlay.
The
watersheds
is
to
show
you
that
traditionally
I
know
we
always
you
know.
Every
year
we
have
potential
for
large
fire,
but
the
years
where
we
have
the
peaks
traditionally
follows
the
wet
years
where
we
have
real
wet
springs.
Where
we're
getting
a
lot
of
moisture
in
the
form
of
rain.
C
Those
are
the
years
the
three
years
following
our
high
weather
years
with
water
are
the
years
where
we
tend
to
have
our
largest
fires,
wild
fire
response
in
nevada.
You
know,
obviously
we're
seeing
larger
fire
occurrence
and
a
much
more
devastating
loss
across
the
united
states.
The
west,
in
particular,
nevada,
is
obviously
engulfed
in
that
part
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
increasing
fuels
in
our
forest
and
rangelands.
C
We've
got
a
lot
of
invasive
fine
flashy
fuels
that
are
coming
in
due
to
the
return
fire
intervals,
we're
seeing
increasing
temperatures
and
and
much
more
drier
conditions.
Much
more
often,
we
have
increasing
development,
obviously
we're
one
of
the
fastest
growing
states
in
the
nation
we
weren't
for
a
while.
We
we
continue
to
go
up
and
down
in
that
department,
but
we
are
building
a
lot
of
homes
in
the
interface
which
then
become
fuels
when
the
wildland
fire
gets
into
those
those
home
areas.
C
Wildland
fire
suppression
is
a
comprehensive,
interagency
approach.
We
learned
a
long
time
ago
in
suppression
that
we
could
not
do
this
by
ourselves.
We
needed
everyone
engaged
together:
the
federal
agencies,
the
state
agencies
and
the
local
government
agencies.
We
didn't
none
of
us
co
individually,
had
the
assets
necessary
to
respond
to
the
fire
we
were
seeing
in
these
landscapes,
so
we
work
very,
very
well
together
and
I
think
that's
why
we
had
such
a
successful
response
this
year
to
wildland
fire.
C
Our
one
of
the
things
I
meant
to
say
earlier
was
our
average
initial
attack.
Success
is
about
95
across
the
state.
This
year
it
was
97,
we
were
more
successful
in
initial
attack
and
I
think
a
lot
of
that
could
be
attributed
to
our
early
air
assets
that
we
had
available
and
we
did
have
a
lot
more
crews
available
within
the
state,
because
at
the
times
we
were
burning,
other
states
adjacent
weren't
for
a
little
while
and
then
oregon
and
washington
and
california
did
burn.
C
So
one
of
the
things
we
also
realized
is
that
we
can't
just
focus
on
the
fire
suppression
assets
of
our
agencies,
putting
all
of
our
eggs
in
the
suppression
basket.
We
also
had
to
really
focus
more
on
creating
and
sustaining
landscapes
that
are
resilient,
not
only
to
wildland
fire,
but
to
insect
and
disease
outbreaks
that
are
common
in
our
forests
and
rangelands,
and
also
we
needed
to
create
and
sustain
communities
that
can
withstand
fire.
Fire
in
these
ecosystems
is
natural,
but
can
be
very
devastating
under
the
wrong
circumstances.
C
We
also
have
hand
crews
that
a
large
number
of
inmate
working
hand,
crews
across
the
state,
but
we
also
our
our
primary
mission-
is
to
try
to
create
those
resilient
landscapes.
So
all
of
our
firefighters,
though
they
are
firefighters
by
trade,
also,
our
natural
resource
managers
by
training
we
put
them
in
and
have
them
doing,
work
when
they're,
not
suppressing
fire,
some
of
the
accomplishments
of
the
division.
This
year
we
treated
about
4,
700
acres.
One
of
the
things
I
would
say
here
is
we
were
on
target
the
last
four
years.
C
We've
all
been
redirecting
ourselves
back
to
the
mission
and
then
kovid
came
so
we
were
on
target
to
overshoot
our
we
average
about
5,
000
acres,
so
we're
actually
short
of
our
average
part
of
that
could
be
due
was
due
to
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
our
inmate
workforce
available
to
us.
C
We
also
had
some
of
the
highlights.
We
did
have
a
decrease
in
our
plant
materials
that
were
sold,
though
we
sold
54
000
plants
and
15
000
pounds
of
seed.
The
seed
was
directly
correlated
to
the
fire
season.
We
didn't
have
the
year
before
it
was
a
small
fire
season,
82
000
acres,
the
seed
sales
actually
correlate
directly
with
that
the
plant
sales
being
down.
C
That's
about
a
third
of
our
average
plant
sales,
the
that
was
due
to
having
the
nursery
closed
to
the
public
for
quite
some
time
and
having
limited
access
to
have
letting
them
in
because
of
covid.
Then
one
of
the
other
things,
as
I
kind
of
talked
about
earlier,
the
water
delivered.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
number.
We
actually
doubled
the
water
delivery
to
wildfires
this
year.
The
state's
three
helicopters
dropped
about
365,
000,
gallons
of
water
on
fires.
C
C
The
second
one
came
in
about
mid-summer
and
that
was
able
to
drop
about
400,
000
gallons
of
water,
on
fires
throughout
the
state.
Having
that
early
scooper
on
on
contract
actually
with
they,
they
dropped
on
200
fires,
and
they
were
they
were
initially
out
there.
If
they
have
a
water
source
right
available,
they
were
able
to
get
thousands
of
gallons
of
water
on
the
fire
much
much
quicker
than
the
other
assets
we
had.
So
we
saw
an
example
was
the
topsy
lane
fire
within
the
first
15
minutes?
C
They
had
dumped
400
gallons
of
water
for
a
thousand
gallons
of
water,
and
it
was
out
which
would
have
been
a
lot
longer
if
we
had
only
a
had
initial
attack
ground
forces.
So
it
was
a
great
asset
to
have
on
contract.
One
of
the
good
things
about
having
it
under
state
contract
as
well
was
that
when
they're
under
federal
contract
they
become
national
assets.
C
I
wanted
to
go
over
a
couple
of
the
programs
within
the
division,
the
wildland
fire
protection
program,
which
is
a
program
that
we
offer
to
local
government.
It's
a
cooperative
program
between
state,
the
division
of
forestry
and
local
government,
fire
protection
districts
to
improve
capabilities
and
efficiencies
for
suppression,
but
really
before,
during
and
after
fires.
C
The
map
that
you
see
depicts
in
green.
All
of
the
entities
that
are
currently
within
the
program,
our
non-participants
are
primarily
down.
We
split
up
clark
county
into
multiple
jurisdictions,
so
we
do
have
a
couple
in
clark
county,
but
most
we
have
five
that
are
out
boulder
city
clark,
county
moapa,
mount
charleston
and
north
las
vegas.
C
This
year
we
transferred
the
mutual
aid
position
that
the
division
of
forestry
had
back
from
the
department
of
emergency
management
for
wildland
fires
to
the
division
of
forestry.
So
the
the
purpose
of
the
transfer,
as
we
discussed
with
the
interim
committee
on
wildfire,
was
to
ensure
that
we
were
getting
all
of
the
closest
available
resources
to
a
wildfire
quickly,
which
includes
local
government
assets,
they're
a
huge
asset
in
the
wildfire
response
and
having
them
within
our
interagency
dispatch.
Centers
actually
increases
our
response
capability
significantly.
C
One
of
the
other
things
that
this
program,
though
it
had
mainly
been
allowing
the
local
governments
a
more
solid
way
of
budgeting
for
wildfires,
because
we
help
support
those
large
wildfire
costs
once
it
goes
over
24
hours.
One
of
the
things
that
we
hadn't
focused
so
much
on
in
the
past,
but
have
in
the
last
two
years,
is
how
do
we
reduce
risk
in
these
participating
entities?
So
we
had.
C
C
Another
challenge
is
that
we
are
reliant
as
a
division
on
those
county
receipts
for
our
fire
staff
within
the
division.
Some
of
the
successes
we
had
this
year
is
well.
We
got
a
new
formula.
I
think
you
guys
heard
about
that
last
session,
so
we
didn't
do
it
this
time.
I
don't
think
they
always
loved
the
formula,
but
we
did.
This
program
began
in
state
fiscal
year
14..
C
We
never
had
a
formula.
It
was
always
based
on
a
concept
that
dealt
with
risk
and
cost,
but
we
actually
did
get
a
formula
created,
so
the
formula
is
based
on
the
risk
in
the
county,
so
that
includes
their
vegetation,
the
possibility
of
ignition
their
fire
history
as
well
as
values
at
risk
and
the
non-reimbursed
costs
to
the
state
on
behalf
of
that
jurisdiction,
so
we
parse
out
the
costs
that
way.
C
So
the
other
successes
we
had,
we
in
we
were
able
to
increase
suppression
capacity.
We
increased
program
participation
this
year
by
two
entities
that
was
henderson
and
las
vegas,
the
city
of
las
vegas.
C
We
were,
we
did
increase
the
fuel
reduction
projects
that
we
were
doing
with
the
local
government.
They
would
tell
us
where
these
areas
of
high
concern
for
them,
and
if
we
had
staff
that
were
on
stay
in
a
fire
station
that
day
that
weren't
in
suppression
mode,
we
actually
sent
them
out
to
do
to
implement
those
projects.
C
We
increased
fire
prevention
events
this
year
and
we
tried
to
increase
coordination
and
communication,
though
that's
been
a
little
more
challenging
in
person
this
year.
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
over
over
zoom
and
other
ways,
and
we
have
some
fire
filling
efficiencies
coming
with
the
contracted
gold
systems
program.
Where
all
of
these
costs
will
be
entered
into
a
system,
they
will
come
right
out
of
our
dispatch
centers
automatically.
It
will
speak
to
our
dispatch
cavs,
so
local
government
will
just
have
to
go
in
and
check
that.
C
Yes,
in
fact,
I
had
this
engine
on
there
and
here
is
my
staffing
and
it
will
automatically
create
a
bill
that
comes
into
our
office.
So
hopefully
our
goal
is
to
expedite
the
fire
billing
process,
so
we're
not
sitting
on
fire
bills.
For
you
know
two
to
five
years.
We
did
that
significantly
through
our
paper
processes
so
far,
but
this
will
will
hopefully
even
increase
further.
C
C
This
is
a
partnership
between
all
the
state
agencies,
so
department
of
wildlife
department
of
agriculture,
the
dcnr
agencies,
which
we
are
a
part
of
the
forest
service,
the
blm
and
the
fish
and
wildlife
service.
And
how
are
we
going
to
tackle
this
wildfire
issue
across
the
state
with
limited
reserves
and
and
abilities
that
we,
each
of
our
agencies,
face
it's
kind
of
like
looking
at
the
fuel
reduction
and
and
resilient
landscapes
pieces?
C
The
same
way,
we
have
collectively
worked
on
wildfire
suppression,
so
the
purpose
of
the
shared
stewardship
agreement
was
to
collaboratively,
determine
state
level
management
needs
and
priorities,
and
to
ensure
that
we
are
all
collectively
doing
the
right
work
in
the
right
places
and
at
the
right
scale
to
affect
change
in
how
fire
moves
through
those
ecosystems
and
that
we
are
all
using
the
best
available
tools
to
do
the
most
active
management
we
can
do
ahead
of
wildfires.
C
The
what
you
see
before
you
is
a
map
of
the
areas
we
collectively
determined
were
the
top
13
areas
that
needed
our
concern
and
addressing
at
this
point,
though,
we
still
do
do
work
in
all
the
rest
of
the
state
from
a
shared
stewardship
perspective.
These
were
the
areas
that
we
were
most
concerned
about
from
how
fire
would
or
does
react
in
those
ecosystems.
C
We
are
currently
taking
this
and
developing
a
strategic
plan
or
a
five-year
program
of
in
of
work
action
that
will
drive
how
all
of
our
agencies
collectively
work
in
these
landscapes
at
a
larger
scale.
Together,
two
projects
have
been
selected
as
the
landscape
scale,
projects
that
are
to
be
completed
by
the
shared
stewardship
agreement
for
and
by
2021.
C
C
C
The
fire
adapted
nevada
program
sits
within
the
division
of
forestry
as
well.
However,
really
is
also
an
interagency
program
guided
by
the
state,
local
government
and
federal
agencies.
We
are
the
the
purpose
of
this.
Is
that
other
arm
that
we
needed
to
focus
on
which
was
providing
education
to
homeowners
on
what
they
can
do
to
home,
harden
their
homes,
making
sure
that
they
have
the
right
roofing
materials,
making
sure
that
we
don't
have
a
jurisdictional
responsibility
for
that.
C
We're
also
focused
on
ensuring
that
they
evacuate
early
and
safely
so
working
with
local
government
and
industry
on
how
to
get
them
out
safely
and
and
quickly
and
then
also
how
to
survive
if
they
can't
get
out
quickly
or
safely,
how
do
they
survive
within
this
community?
So
so
that's
the
focus
of
the
program
is
trying
to
look
at
multiple
different
areas.
You're
looking
at
you
know,
defensible
space
of
my
backyard
you're,
looking
at
the
entire
neighborhood
surrounding
that
then
you're
looking
at
ingress
egress.
How
do
I
get
in?
How
do
I
get
out?
C
Is
there
only
one
way
in
only
one
way
out?
How
could
is
there
a
way
for
us
to
make
two
ways
in
and
two
ways
out
and
then
the
built
environment,
like
I
said,
one
of
the
the
committee
to
conduct
an
interim
study
concerning
wildfires
did
a
poll
on
all
of
the
things
that
was
a
local
government
state
federal
agency
representatives
on
on
how
are
we
going
to
look
at
both
suppression
and
mitigation
of
wildfires
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
collectively
address
those
issues?
C
So
I
just
listed
here
some
of
the
committee
sponsored
bdrs
and
the
areas
for
which
they're
they're
moving
forward
a
lot
of
them
are
looking
at
you
know
relating
to
noxious
weeds
cheatgrass
in
the
state
of
nevada's,
is,
is
a
noxious
weed
but
is
not
listed
as
such,
and
so
how
do
we
manage-
or
I
guess
now
live
with
cheatgrass
and
try
to
reduce
it
in
our
environment?
C
So
it's
not
causing
the
fire
return
intervals,
increasing
of
say
if
the
fire,
a
normal
fire
cycle
in
some
of
these
ecosystems,
would
be
20
years
now
we're
seeing
it
reduced
to
five
years
or
even
annually,
because
of
these
fine
flashy
fuels
so
we're
kind
of
looking
at
how
do
we
more
collectively
work
together?
C
That's
what
a
lot
of
these
bdrs
are
doing,
making
sure
that
we
solidify
the
relationships
between
the
forest
service,
the
blm,
the
fish
and
wildlife
service
and
the
state
agencies,
so
that
beyond
my
tenure
or
whoever
is
in
charge
of
those
agencies,
we
are
working
together
both
from
a
suppression,
standpoint,
which
we
have
done
for
decades
and
from
an
implementation
and
resilient
landscape
perspective.
So
that's
that's
our
goal,
and
with
that
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
presentation
and
with
that
we'll
go
to
questions,
I
will
start
with
assemblyman
ellison.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'm
looking
at
page
two,
and
it
says
bacteria
said
red,
red
and
green
is
human
cause.
If
you
look
at
the
top
of
the
map,
that's
following
I-80
down,
so
that's
down
along
the
highway.
Is
that
from
like
cigarettes
and
and
stuff
like
that,
throwed
out
up
above
there,
because
most
of
the
fires
we
have
caused
in
our
areas
is
mostly
lightning
and
that's
my
first
question,
then
I
got
another
one
after
that.
C
Yeah,
I
can't
speak
to
all
of
those
fire
starts,
but
when
you
see
them
usually
along
those
highways,
it
can
be
cigarettes,
it
can
be
chains
being
drug
on
the
ground
that
are
causing
sparks.
That
was
the
big
one
for
some
of
the
fires
along
the
front
here
and
along
that
I-80
corridor.
The
a
lot
of
the
issues
along
the
I-80
corridors
you're
well
aware,
is
the
receptive
fuels.
C
It's
mostly
cheatgrass
along
those
right-of-ways
and
that's
a
big
focus
of
ours
is
to
try
to
get
those
right-of-ways
kind
of
cleared
out
so
that
if
you
are
driving
a
chain
too
low
and
it
sparks,
there
aren't
receptive
fuels
on
either
side
of
the
freeway
for
that
or
a
cigarette
thrown
out
or
or
whatever.
That
might
be.
D
Okay,
I
know
that
they've
got
a
good
program,
starting
indot
does
as
far
as
cutting
the
grass
down
along
that
area,
but
you
could
sure
see
that
it's
following
up
around
lovelock
through
winnemucca
battle,
mountain
elko,
so
it
definitely
fall
on
the
corridor.
Okay.
The
other
thing
I've
got
is
on
grazing
the
ecosystem
and
the
protection
of
you
know
like
the
sage,
grouse
and
stuff.
Have
you
got
a?
Are
you
guys
still
working
on
a
policy
there
for
that.
C
Thank
you
again
for
the
record
casey
casey.
We
are,
I
wouldn't
say
we
are
the
division
of
forestry,
though
we
are
part
of
the
sagebrush
ecosystem,
technical
team
and
they
are
still
working
on
that
nevada
was
one
of
the
pilot
states
for
some
adaptive
kind
of
shared
stewardship
like
grazing
permits,
so
they
looked
at.
They
took
five,
I
believe
ranches
in
nevada
and
looked
at
how
their
grazing
permits
were
given
through
the
federal
agencies
and
how
much
more
we
could
do.
C
Some
of
the
restrictions
that
are
put
in
place
are
actually
causing
more
fire
returns
into
those
ecosystems
before
they
can
get
cows
back
out.
So
they
did
look
at
that
and
I
think
they
found
great
success
and
I
think
you
will
see
a
big
change
in
how
those
permits
are
awarded
going
forward,
and
that
was
one
area
that
was
really
great.
I
would
say
for
the
cooperation
and
collaboration
in
nevada.
Other
states
got
one
pilot
project.
C
D
Hey,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Can
I
have
one
follow
up?
Please
go
ahead.
Yeah!
Thank
you.
Are
you
guys
using
any
goats
for
the
noxious
weeds
right
now?
I
know
blm
has
looked
at
some
of
that,
but
I
haven't
heard
a
lot
out
of
the
nevada
division
of
forestry
and
I
know
the
city
of
elko
used
some
goats
that
to
clean
up
the
river
yeah.
It's
amazing
what
the
goats
do.
C
Yes,
thanks
for
the
question
again:
casey
casey-
I
don't
know
if
I
have
to
say
that
every
time
but
for
the
record,
yes,
we
have
used
goats.
We
did
use
them
up
here
along
highway
50
for
a
project
we
were
doing
in
cooperation
with,
and
the
energy
in
a
reduction.
We
took
our
masticator
out
there
and
then
brought
the
goats
in
afterward
and
we
will
do
a
reseeding
as
well
following
the
the
chomping
of
the
vegetation.
C
We
usually
traditionally
do
it
here.
Also
along
the
old
burn
scar
here
in
carson
city,
we
are
working
to
expand
our
good
of
the
state
contract
right
now
and
writing
in
some
more
of
these
contracts,
get
trying
to
get
more
contractors
on
the
good
of
the
state
list,
with
goats
and
and
other
non-traditional
use
things
so
that
we
can
actually
employ
a
lot
more
contractors
out
there
to
do
a
lot
more
of
this
work.
A
Thank
you,
mr
allison,
and
thank
you
miss
casey
for
identifying
yourself
for
the
record,
though
it
is
repetitive,
it
is
helpful
for
our
secretary
taking
notes.
So
I
appreciate
that
with
that
we'll
go
on
to
vice
chair
cohen,.
B
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Miss
casey.
Can
you
give
us
a
little
more
of
the
scientific
background
about
why
cheatgrass
is
a
problem
and
why
noxious
weeds
are
a
problem
like
the
the
cycle
kind
of
get
into
that
a
little
bit.
C
Yes
again
for
the
record,
casey
casey
or
fire
warden
for
the
division
of
forestry.
Cheatgrass
is
an
issue
for
us.
Like
I
said,
fire
in
these
ecosystems
is
natural
up
in
our
our
higher
areas.
We
had
fire
return
intervals,
natural
or
man-made.
There
was
a
lot
of
native
american
fire
use
for
prescribed
fire
over
over
thousands
of
years
to
try
to
clean
up
the
understories
of
forests
in
our
range
lands.
C
Fire
comes
at
normal
intervals.
What
happens
with
cheatgrass
is
so.
Cheap
grass
is
highly
competitive
to
native
seed,
so
it
will
out,
compete
our
native
vegetation
on
all
the
time.
So
when
we
have
a
first
fire
that
comes
through
say
like
in
the
range
it's
a
little
bit
different
in
our
forested
areas,
but
when
a
first
fire
comes
through,
we
still
have
some
some
native
vegetation
that
can
compete
with
the
cheatgrass,
though
you'll
start
to
see
it
coming
in.
C
But
it
does
allow
for
more
receptivity
because
it
gets
drier
a
lot
quicker
than
our
native
vegetation
and
it
stays
drier
longer
so
and,
like
I
said
it
puts
out
a
lot
of
seed,
it's
highly
competitive,
so
you
start
to
increase
that
fire
return
interval
so
where
you
might
have
had
fire
return
in
these
landscapes.
C
Every
20
years
now
you're
starting
to
see
it
come
back
every
10
years,
then,
once
you
get
two
fires
that
come
through
you're
really
outcome,
starting
to
out
compete,
your
cheatgrass
is
starting
to
take
hold
and-
and
it
depends
also
on
how
hot
a
fire
burns
through
these
zika
systems.
If
it
burns
all
of
the
native
seed
bank,
then
we've
got
real
problems
in
the
first
year.
C
So
cheatgrass
is
just
very
competitive
and
very
flammable,
and
that's
why
it
allows
for
more
fire
to
come
into
these
ecosystems
and,
as
we
start
to
see
those
return
intervals
get
smaller
and
smaller,
and
the
cheat
grass
becomes
the
more
dominant
species
there.
Then
we
really
are
are
inhibiting
our
ability
to
make
a
change
from
our
rehab
efforts
as
well,
because
you've
got
to
really
go
out
there
at
a
very
large
scale
and
put
some
herbicide
application
out
there.
C
B
Thank
you
and
follow-up
chair.
C
Thanks
for
the
question
again
for
the
record,
casey
casey
am,
I
have
heard
it
is
edible,
but
not
preferred.
I
don't
think
it's
something
that
they
would
seek
out.
If,
if
there
were
other
things
on
site,
they
would
eat
the
other
more
native
or
or
introduced
vegetation
that
they
would
prefer.
C
That's
why
oftentimes
in
our
seed
mixes,
because
cheatgrass
is
so
competitive,
we
actually
look
at
introduced
species
that
will
compete
the
better
with
cheatgrass,
but
will
give
us
a
placehold
for
trying
to
get
some
natives
to
come
back
in
so
I
I
don't
think
that
they
prefer
it,
but,
yes,
they
will
graze
on
it.
If
it's
what's
out
there.
C
A
You
thank
you
vice
chair
cohen,
with
that
we
will
go
on
to
assemblywoman
titus.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
As
far
as
the
cheek
grass
goes
just
a
comment
that
was
actually
planted
originally
as
bronco
grass
and
the
department
of
agriculture
indeed
thought
that
that
was
going
to
be
part
of
a
food
source
and
good
for
grazing.
B
It
turns
out
that
obviously
there's
a
fire
source,
but
we're
trying
to
get
it
back
in
and
to
recognize
that
that
can
be
counted
as
part
of
their
grazing
allotment
and
look
at
if
it's
grazed
at
the
appropriate
time
and
that's
the
key
is
getting
those
cows
on
that
and
I
think
assembly
ellison
can
answer
any
other
questions
on
cheatgraph
being
having
his
family
in
the
cattle
grazing
business
at
times.
I
have
a
couple
questions.
B
If
I
might
mr
chair
for
for
casey,
I
think
that
and
and
first
off
the
plant,
the
nursery
is
it
open.
Now
is
your
nursery
available
to
the
public
now
or
is
it
still
closed
due
to
coven.
C
C
Thanks
for
the
question,
casey
casey
again
for
the
record:
yes,
it's
available
online.
They
do
need
to
make
a
reservation,
so
you
can
either
call
in
or
you
can
go
to
our
website
forestry.mv.gov
and
there's
a
little
forum
to
sign
in.
So
we
did
that
from
a
covered
precaution
standpoint
just
to
make
sure
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
people.
We
still
do
allow
walk-ins
so
long
as
we're.
You
know,
under
the
the
recommended
capacity.
B
Yeah
great
because
it's
a
great
resource-
and
I
know
I've
been
there
and
I
and
on
my
very
different
properties,
I
have
purchased
plants
and
trees
from
that
location
and
they
all
do
well.
I'm
curious
about
the
seed
program.
It
always
seems
like
there's
a
shortage
of
the
number
of
seeds
and
I'm
worried.
How
are
we
doing
how's
our
storage
for
that?
B
What
what's
the
what's
availability
of
native
seeds
to
put
out,
because
I
know
it's
been
a
big
push
on
on
our
interim
committee
on
wildfires
and
just
you
know
getting
our:
how
do
we
compete
with
the
cheat
grass
if
we
don't
have
any
seeds
to
put
out
there.
C
Yeah
thanks
for
the
question
again
for
the
record,
casey
casey,
our
seed
bank
is
pretty
small.
As
you
know,
there
is
a
another
seed
bank
in
ely
that
was
just
built
with
the
federal
partners
we
work
collaboratively
together.
One
of
the
things
that
got
encompassed
under
the
shared
stewardship
contract
and
agreement
was
a
native
seed
strategy,
for
it
was
interagency
partnership
between
state
federal,
local
cooperators.
C
How
are
we
going
to
increase
native
seed
collection
and
sourcing
up
from
site
because,
as
you
all
are
probably
very
aware,
it
does
matter
if,
where
the
seeds
grown
and
at
what
elevations
and
making
sure
that
we're
putting
the
right
seed
back
in
the
right
places,
so
that
was
pretty
big
for
us,
so
we
created
a
committee.
They
did
just
come
out
with
this,
the
native
seed
strategy
and
it's
looking
at.
How
do
we
increase
that
seed?
C
Part
of
what
we're
doing,
even
at
our
nursery
say,
we
have
a
lot
of
land
out
there,
so
we
have
our
greenhouses,
but
we
also
have
land
in
the
back,
so
we
have
been
creating
seed
increased
beds,
so
we
got
a
list
of
the
highest
priority
species
for
things
like
sage,
grouse
or
or
mule,
deer,
habitat
or
other
areas
that
we're
having
a
hard
time
actually
buying,
and
we
are
and
we're
growing
them
out,
we're
looking
at
trying
to
help
get
more
private
industry,
folks
and
ranchers
involved
in
this,
as
well
so
trying
to
create
contracts.
C
That
would
be
long
term
so
that
they
have
some
stability
in
this
process.
If
we
were
to
ask
them
to
gross
a
sagebrush,
it
sounds
weird
to
want
to
grow
sagebrush,
but
seed
is
not
a
given
every
year.
It's
all
dependent
upon
how
much
moisture
we
get,
and
so
those
are
the
types
of
things
that
that
group
is
looking
at
and
implementing
across
agencies.
B
Excellent,
thank
you
and
if
I
might
have
another
question,
mr
chair
go
ahead
following
up
on
that.
That
nursery
is
right
outside
of
washoe
valley
and
do
you
have
anything
in
southern
nevada
that
could
absolutely
benefit,
I
think,
from
a
nursery
program,
or
is
it
just
here
at
the
washoe
in
washoe
valley,
where
you
have
your
nursery.
C
Thanks
again
for
the
question:
casey
casey
for
the
record,
we
have
two
state
tree
nurseries.
The
one
there
on
east
lake
boulevard
is
where
the
seed
bank
is
directly
next
door
and
our
office.
Our
second
one
is
in
las
vegas,
it's
right
directly
attached
to
the
floyd
lamb
state,
or
I
think
it's
a
county
park
now,
but
it's
in
that
same
driveway
into
that
area.
C
It
used
to
be
way
on
the
outskirts
of
town,
and
now
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
suburbia,
so
statutes
require
that
we
sell
the
plants
for
conservation
purposes
in
bulk.
So
one
of
the
bills
you'll
see
this
year
is
trying
to
kind
of
expand
on
on
some
of
that.
But
we
do
have
two
vegas
is
great
for
us
actually,
and
it
is
the
primary
growing
source
for
us.
As
you
know,
our
growing
season
up
here
is
pretty
short,
even
with
the
greenhouse.
C
B
Too
great,
thank
you
and
then
final
question
settlement.
Allison
asked
a
question
about
that
corridor
and
you
know
pointing
out
about
grazing
and
we
have.
We
have
the
board
of
sheep
that
go
on
the
carson
city
hillside
out
here.
We
know
that
that
low
is
fire
risk
and
some
of
that
and
and
goats
and
whatever
we
can
to
graze
off
some
of
this.
He
also
mentioned.
Maybe
you
mentioned
ndot
and
you
know
the
cutting
and
making
sure
that
that
fuel
beside
the
roads
is
kept
down.
B
But
it's
been
my
impression
in
the
past
that
they
also
have
a
program
where
they
put
an
herbicide
or
some
fire,
not
an
arbor
stop,
but
maybe
a
fire
retardant
that
they
they
spread
alongside
the
roadside.
Are
you
partnering
with
ndot
on
that
program?.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question
again
for
the
record,
casey
casey,
I'm
not
sure.
If
I'm
we
have
partnered
with
them
on
right-of-way
projects
all
across
the
state,
both
from
a
fuel
thinning
perspective
to
a
tree,
thinning
perspective,
so
there's
visual
areas
of
open
space
for
deer
and
other
things
that
might
cross
the
road.
C
I'm
not
aware
of
them
putting
down
retardant
in
those
areas
pre-suppression.
But
I
do
know
that
they've
done
a
lot
of
like
a
lot
of
times.
You'll
see
that
green
spray
that
they
put
out
there.
That's
right,
the
hydro,
seeding
stuff
that
they're
doing
we've
worked
with
them
with
herbicides.
We
have,
we
have
done
prescribed
burning
in
those
right-of-ways
for
them,
but
I'm
not
aware
of
spraying
any
of
the
retardant
ahead
of
it.
B
Okay,
I
I
it's
that
green
thing,
the
the
stuffed
alongside
the
highway.
I
thought
that
was
a
return
that
they
put
down
to
prevent
those
wildfires
from
happening,
and
I'm
hearing
that,
maybe
that's
not
what
that
is
so
could
be
wrong
on
that.
Anyway,
thank
you
for
the
questions,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
again
for
the
presentation
and
I'm
excited
to
hear
that
that
there's
more
rapid
response
and
early,
you
know
early
intervention
and
a
billion
billion
in
efficiencies
that
you're
doing
so.
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman
next,
we'll
go
to
assemblywoman
anderson.
B
Very
informative
one
question
that
I
have
has
to
do
with.
I
would.
C
C
I
realize
that
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
regional
thing,
because
the
emergency
services
that
are
necessary
and
douglas
for
the
time
for
the
pine
haven,
fire
and
washo
for
the
numbers
fire
or
even
here
in
carson
for
the
the
fire
autopsy
drive
that
you
spoke
of,
would
be
different,
but
are
there
some
possible
resources
that
you
are
all
looking
at
for
to
help
with
these?
How
we
can
get
those
emergency
response
services
quickly?
C
Thank
you
for
the
question
again
for
the
record.
Casey
casey
we're
always
looking
at
how
do
we
improve
our
efficiencies,
and
that
was
one
of
the
long
discussions
we
had
at
the
interim
committee
on
how
do
we
get
stuff,
particularly
local
government,
whose
jurisdiction
this
really
is
out
there
quicker
they
dispatched
through
a
9-1-1
dispatch
center
to
all
emergencies,
they're
all
risk,
not
just
wildland
fire.
We,
the
state
and
the
federal
agencies,
are
really
wildland
fire
focused
and
we
dispatch
out
of
an
interagency
dispatch
center.
That's
run
between
all
of
our
agencies.
C
So
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
that
committee
was
we
needed
to
be
more
efficient
and
look
at
those
local
government
assets
and
how
we
get
them
into
our
dispatch
centers.
So
we
have
made
that
transition
here
on
the
front
in
we
have
five
interagency
dispatch
centers
around
the
state,
one
las
vegas,
winnemucca
ely
elko,
here
minden,
and
so
we,
the
primary
moving
part
that
the
largest
amount
of
moving
local
government
parts
is
here
along
the
front.
So
we
started
with
that
one,
it's
the
most
complicated.
C
So
it's
taken
us
a
while
in
transition,
but
we
did
just
meet
with
them
last
week
and
I
think
we
did
dispatch
them
this
year
and
so
we're
actually
just
trying
to
formalize
that
plan
on
how
they
get
into
our
our
our
system
to
actually
be
immediate,
more
immediately
available.
B
C
Thank
you.
I
have
a
feeling
it's
a
little
bit
more
of
an
in-depth
discussion,
so
I
might
be
reaching
out
to
you
a
little
bit
privately
as
well.
So
thank
you
happy
to
do
that.
It's
fire
response
in
nevada
with
the
jurisdictions
and
the
the
checkerboard
landscape
is
very
complicated.
C
I
can
draw
a
nice
like
map
and
and
a
lot
of
stuff
on
a
white
board
that
might
help
you
to
understand,
but
it
is
a
very
complicated
response
and
because
of
all
of
our
agents,
but
we
do
a
good
job
every
year,
which
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
correlate
that
that
response
of
really
working
together
and
giving
up
our
jurisdictional,
you
know,
focus
and
and
really
working
together
can
can
correlate
over
to.
How
do
we
reduce
the
risk
on
the
front
side
as
well.
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
have
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
One
is
so:
we've
talked
about
collecting
seed
to
restore
habitat.
We've
talked
about
grazing.
We've
talked
about
deploying
additional
assets
for
response.
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
technology.
I
know
in
the
last
session
we
got
a
presentation
on
cameras
to
detect
wildfires
early,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
there's
been
any
technology
deployed
or
developed
that
you
see
assisting
in
wildfire
response
and
and
recovery.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question
chair
watts
again
for
the
record
casey
casey.
Yes,
that
we
have
been
looking
at
how
technology
can
help
assist.
Obviously
the
fire
cameras
are
great
for
detection.
They
also
assist
us
when
we
have
one
of
the
reasons.
Those
cameras
are
so
important
for
detection.
Is
anybody
can
watch
them
they're
open
to
the
public?
If
anybody
sees
something
start,
you
can
see
smoke
pretty
immediately
we're
working
on
systems
where
it
may
auto,
detect
the
smoke
and
immediately
go
into
an
interagency
dispatch
center.
C
Those
have
been
great.
We
have.
I
think
there
are
about
20,
more
cameras
going
out
this
year,
there's
about
50
of
them
around
the
state
right
now,
we've
got
a
lot
of
coverage
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
have
coverage
from
multiple
different
angles.
In
case
we
lose
those
types
of
one
goes
down.
We
still
have
coverage.
There's
a
lot
of
technology.
We
use
weather
systems,
we've
been
putting
in
with
our
partnership
with
nv
energy,
putting
in
a
lot
of
weather
stations
and
weather
systems.
C
It
helps
us
to
determine
really
how
hot
and
dry
at
that
micro
level
at
that
micro
ecosystem.
What
does
it
really
look
like
out
there
and
that's
really
impactful
from
a
fire
perspective
when
we're
looking
at
what
are
the
relative
humidities?
What's
the
wind
speeds
in
which
directions
so
we've
deployed
a
lot
of
those?
We
also
have
mobile
devices
that
are
weather
stations
that
we
take
out
with
us.
C
We've
looked
at
how
drones
could
assist
and
we
have
used
drones
on
fires,
both
from
going
up
and
and
looking
at
the
perimeter
and
mapping
the
perimeter
and
in
in
other
aspects
like
seating,
there's
it's
strange
to
say,
but
they
have
drones
that
like
shoot
seeds
from
the
sky
into
the
ground-
and
it
probably
is
pretty
effective
because
at
least
it
gets
in
there,
so
we're
looking
at
multiple
ways
that
technology
can
help.
There's
a
lot
of
great
mapping
tools
out
there.
C
Nv
energy
is
coming
up
online
with
a
lot
of
fuel,
moisture
readers
around
the
state,
so
it
actually
is
taking
real
live
reads
of
what
the
fuel
moistures
are
at
different
elevations
and
in
different
fuel
types,
which
is
extremely
helpful
for
us
during
prescribed
fires,
but
also
during
when
we're
looking
at
how
hot
is
it?
What
are
we
gonna
staff
up
for?
If
we
need
you
know
if
we
know
that
we
are
really
dry
and
our
fuel
moistures
are
dry
and
we
have
potential
for
any
starts.
A
Thank
you,
that's
very
informative
and
it's
great
to
see
the
increased
collaboration
between
governmental
entities
at
all
levels,
as
well
as
other
partners,
including
envy
energy's
increased
involvement
as
they
step
up
their
wildfire
response
plans.
So
that's
helpful
back
to
the
issue
of
human
starts
and
I'm
sure
that
you
know
discuss
some
of
the
education
that
goes
around
into
communities
on
preventing
some
of
the
emergencies
with
communities
that
are
on
the
interface.
A
Can
you
talk
about
any
activities
that
you
have
in
terms
of
education,
outreach
or
or
any
other
initiatives
that
might
be
able
to
address?
The
increase
in
human
starts
that
we're
seeing
for
wildfire.
C
Yes,
thanks
for
the
question
again
for
the
record:
casey
casey
we
have,
we
have
always
had
an
educational
component.
Smokey
bear
we
have,
you
know,
goes
out
to
schools.
Talks
to
kids
about
about,
starts
it's
pretty
effective,
to
talk
to
kids
about
it,
because
then
they
go
home
and
talk
to
their
parents,
so
that
that's
helpful.
But
we
have
recognized
in
the
past
couple
years
as
we
started
to
see
an
increase
in
human
cause,
fires
we're
constantly
looking
at
data
and
why
those
fires
are
starting.
C
A
couple
years
back,
a
lot
of
our
large
fires
were
started
by
target
shooting,
so
we
actually
called
the
prevention
team
in
it's
an
interagency
team
with
federal
state
and
local
government
partners
who
come
into
the
state
to
directly
target.
You
know,
psas
and
and
billboards
and
and
fact
sheets
and
going
door-to-door
to
hand
out
and
talk
to
people
about.
C
You
know
there
are
conditions
out
there
that
are
different
than
there
were
20
years
ago
in
areas
where
you
you
used
to
be
able
to
go,
and
there
was
no
vegetation
in
the
understory
and
shoot
you
can't
anymore,
because
we've
had
these
fine
flash,
flashy
fuels
come
in,
and
so
that's
part
of
the
educational
tool.
So
we
look
at
that
every
year,
every
year
we're
looking
collaboratively
on.
C
What's
what's
the
biggest
cause
of
the
is
it
you
know,
illegal,
campfires
and
we'll
do
a
big
push
on
on
how
to
try
to
stop
that.
I
would
like
to
say
it's
effective
but,
as
you
just
keep
seeing
the
numbers
increase
and
we're
effective
in
some
areas,
we're
unaware
of
some
others,
so
so
we're
still
working
through.
How
do
we
get
that
education
to
the
people
that
really
need
it?
C
We
do
work
across
states
with
the
national
association
of
state
foresters
or
the
council
of
western
state
foresters.
We're
also
talking
about
things
that
are
joint
across
our
state,
so
that
we're
not
just
saying
it
here.
As
often
it's
tourists
coming
in
that.
Don't
aren't
really
aware
of
our
of
our
vegetation
issues
or
or
what
might
be
out
in
this
landscape,
so
we
are
working
across
state
boundaries
to
try
to
get
that
education
to
be
consistent
and
across
all
agencies.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
information,
and
I
have
one
last
question.
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
about
what
the
firefighting
workforce
looks
like
particularly
the
non-inmate
workforce
and
any
issues
that
you
may
see
in
recruitment
and
retention
in
that
regard
and
and
then
kind
of
how
that
relates
to
our
reliance
on
on
inmate
firefighters,
to
help
us
combat
wildfires.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question
again
for
the
record.
Casey
casey
I'll
speak
to
the
division
of
forestry,
specifically
so
our
workforce
in
in
firefighting,
wildland
firefighting,
has
fluctuated
over
the
years.
As
you
know,
there
was
a
statute
historically,
where
we
were
actually
an
all-risk
fire
department.
Just
like
cal
fire
is.
We
were
not
just
responding
to
wildland
fires,
but
to
all
emergencies
that
went
away
about
eight
years
ago
and
we
moved
to
a
solely
wildland
fire
response
agency.
C
C
It
shifted
out
of
the
division
of
forestry
and
into
the
county
we're
seeing
just
generally
across
the
agency
a
retention
issue,
because
often
we
don't
compete
with
wages
in
private
industry
and
or
the
public
sector.
So
but
firefighters
who
come
here,
we
do
offer
things
that
others.
Don't
we
have
three
helicopters
granted
they're
50
years
old.
Well,
one
of
them's
new
two
of
them
are
really
really
old
from
the
time
of
world
war
ii,
but
but
but
they're
safe
as
we
do
maintain
them
to
to
current
standards.
C
But
we
have.
We
have
programs
like
that
that
others,
don't
that,
do
draw
in
people
and
keep
them
here.
We
are
our
largest
workforce.
If
you
take
out
in
inmate,
firefighters
is
seasonal,
firefighters
and
part
of
our
our
push
was
to
try
to
get
a
longer
season
for
them
and
we
were
able
to
do
that
a
little
bit
in
last
session,
because,
as
you
know,
we
need
you
know.
Historically,
our
fire
seasons
were
five
months.
C
We
would
bring
them
on
do
their
training
for
a
month,
and
then
you
know
three
months
of
firefighting,
a
month
of
cooldown
and
there's
your
five
months
now
we're
looking
at
about
nine
months,
trying
to
keep
them
on
for
project
work
as
well.
C
So
it's
it's
generally
a
little
bit
hard,
but
from
a
retention
standpoint
we
have
a
lot
of
firefighters
that
have
been
with
us
for
quite
some
time.
I
I
like
to
think
that
the
mission
of
we
don't
have
that
all-risk
component,
so
you
don't
need
to
be
a
paramedic
in
our
agency
and
some
people
really
care
about
the
ecosystems
in
nevada
and
so
like
that
mix
of
both
caring
about
it
from
a
suppression,
standpoint
and
being
able
to
implement
fuel
reduction
ahead
of
time.
C
So
we
do
tend
to
see,
but
we
have
a
small
number.
I
think
we
have
six
staffed
engines
across
the
state,
we're
really
support
to
local
government
and
to
the
federal
agencies.
The
three
helicopters
here
at
minden,
a
large
contingent
of
about
50,
seasonal,
firefighters
and
dispatchers
that
come
on
during
the
peak
of
the
fire
season
to
help
us
out
and
and
just
to
speak
to
the
inmate
workforce.
C
I
think
that
the
whole
reason
the
program
was
was
created
between
the
department
of
corrections
and
the
division
of
forestry
was
actually
to
provide
skills
to
to
inmates
that
are
coming
into
the
system
to
hopefully
reduce
the
the
return
rates
into
the
prison
system
in
the
state
of
nevada.
So
when
we
bring
them
into
the
system,
I
don't
think
we
always
intended
them
to
be
firefighters,
though
they
are
a
large
firefighting
workforce
for
us.
C
Their
their
primary
mission
as
ours
is
too
is
is
natural
resource
management,
and
we
give
them
the
same
accreditations.
They
go
through
the
same
training.
Our
free
staff
have,
and
they
take
that
with
them
when
they
leave
so
so
part
of
the
the
real
goal
of
the
program
was
to
try
to
give
them
skills.
We
don't
see
a
lot
of
them
going
into
firefighting
as
a
career
following,
but
we
do
see
a
lot
of
them
going
into
the
tree
care
industry
into.
So
we
are
working
right
now
with
the
university
on.
C
How
do
we
get
a
bigger
program
there
to
give
accreditations
and
certifications
concurrent
with
national
standards?
That
could
be
more
helpful
to
them
in
that
industry
and
we
do
provide
them
the
training
and
the
saw
classes
and
the
climbing
classes
and
the
how
to
tie
a
knot
classes
while
they're
in
there,
and
that
was
really
the
goal
of
the
program.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
miss
casey
for
that
information.
There
is
a
lot
of
helpful
information
there
and
very
interesting
to
to
think
of
ways
that
we
can
continue
to
build
that
pipeline
in
order
to
reduce
recidivism
and
provide
opportunities
for
folks.
So
it's
good
to
hear
that
that
there
are
other
opportunities
that
folks
are
moving
into,
and
hopefully
there
are
not
barriers
for
those
that
want
to
pursue
firefighting
to
access
it.
I
heard
you
specifically
mentioned
the
state's
does
not
have
a
paramedic
requirement.
A
I
didn't
know
that
was
very
interesting
and
good
to
hear
and
if
there
are
any
of
those
barriers,
I
hope
that
we
can
be
made
aware
of
them
so
that
we
can
consider
addressing
those
in
the
legislature.
So
with
that,
I
think
that's
all
the
questions
that
we
have.
I
know
mr
ellison,
you
had
an
additional
question
since
we
do
have
another
meeting
starting
soon.
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
please
take
that
question
offline
and
again,
thank
you.
Miss
casey
for
the
presentation
for
the
couple
of
people
that
are
following
along
online.
A
I've
got
my
wildland
firefighter
foundation,
pin
on
today
in
the
52-week
club.
There
so
with
that,
we
will
now
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
public
comment
as
a
reminder
to
provide
public
comment
by
phone.
You
must
register
online
on
the
legislative
website.
Information
is
also
available
on
our
committee
agendas.