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A
So,
committee
members,
here
we
are
it's
8
15
in
the
evening
we
started
our
day
together
at
8
15
a.m.
So,
let's
just
do
part
two
and
we
are
not
going
to
have
make
a
habit
out
of
meeting
every
12
hours.
I
will
promise
you.
I
will
do
it
my
best
not
to
do
that
so
with
that
this
evening.
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
in
order
to
make
sure
that
the
appropriate
bills
get
in
the
in
the
right
spot.
At
the
time
we
have
an
assembly
bill
that
was
referred
to
us.
A
It
was
not
agendized,
but
those
rules
have
been
waived.
At
this
moment
there
was
notice
that
we
did
have
control
of
the
bill.
It
was
removed
from
legislative
operations.
It
was
brought
to
ways
and
means
we
were
waiting
for
the
amendment.
The
amendment
came
out
this
morning
after
today's
agenda
had
already
been
posted,
but
because
it
is
an
a
b
bill
and
there
is
a
time
crunch,
we
need
to
address
that
bill
this
evening
to
make
sure
that
it
gets
processed
and
get
to
the
floor.
A
So
with
that,
I
believe
we
have
the
appropriate
people
in
the
room.
I
apologize
that
the
chair
of
legislative
operations
isn't
here
she's
in
another
committee
presenting,
but
we
do
have
a
representative
from
the
ethics
commission
and
I
believe
we
also
have
mr
powers
available
if
need
be,
to
walk
us
through
this
bill.
So
with
the
time
constraints
that
we
have.
I
believe
that
that
is
the
first
bill
that
we're
going
to
consider
this
evening,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
as
an
a
b
it
moves
forward.
A
So
that
would
be
ab65
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
up
the
hearing
on
ab65.
We
do
have
a
proposed
amendment,
which
is
number
777
to
the
bill.
If
I
could
ask
the
commission
on
ethics
to
give
us
a
high
level
overview
of
the
bill
and
then
I'll
ask
mr
powers
to
address
the
amendment
and
we'll
talk
about
them
both
together
and
ask
our
questions
then
so
that
we
can
have
a
comprehensive
conversation.
A
A
C
D
Heard
by
the
committee-
oh,
thank
you
very
much.
This
is
tracy
chase.
I
am
commission
counsel
for
the
nevada
commission
on
ethics.
I
want
to
thank
madam
chair
and
the
committee
for
considering
our
bill
this
evening.
Our
bill
basically
is
a
bill
that
presents
a
lot
of
streamlining
on
behalf
of
the
commission.
D
It
goes
through
our
processes
from
beginning
to
end
and
it
provides
additional
due
process
and
it
provides
whistleblower
protection
to
those
public
officers
and
those
public
employees
that
are
entitled
to
have
their
identity
protected
under
the
ethics
law.
The
bill
has
been
heard
it
before
the
assembly
committee
and
it
also
was
headed
to
a
workshop,
and
then
it
was
redirected
to
you.
I
believe,
that's
based
on
upon
the
amendment.
D
The
the
commission
has
already
agreed
to
two
amendments
to
the
bill,
and
I
don't
see
that
in
the
amended
bill.
So
I
want
to
highlight
those
for
the
record.
Section
eight
adds
an
exclusion.
D
D
The
other
one
is
section,
and
in
that
section
it
originally
was
drafted,
as
the
executive
director
had
to
be
an
attorney
and
the
commission,
based
upon
the
indications
from
the
the
assembly
committee,
determined
that
we're
fine.
If
the
executive
director
is
not
an
attorney
basically
the
bill,
it
has
a
lot
of
definitional
sections
at
the
at
the
front
and
is
correcting
those
and
it
revises
nrs
281,
a
400
to
include
an
additional
code
of
conduct
for
a
gross
or
unconscionable
abusive
process.
D
In
addition,
there
is
a
requirement
in
section
11
that
institutes
a
requirement:
that's
consistent
with
already
imposed
duties
that
the
secretary
of
state
has
for
government
entities,
and
I
want
to
highlight
this
because
it's
the
subject
of
the
fiscal
note
on
the
bill
and
what
it
does
is.
There
is
currently
no
mechanism
for
the
commission
to
check
and
secure
compliance
with
our
ethics
acknowledgement
forms.
D
Not
not
excuse
me,
not
public
employees,
public
officers,
whether
elected
or
appointed,
and
that
is
the
same
list
that
they
provide
to
the
secretary
of
state.
In
addition,
you'll
see
a
lot
of
language
clarification.
Part
of
the
bill
section
21
is
really
important
to
the
commission
because
it
establishes
a
mediation
and
a
settlement
process.
That's
consistent
with
a
court
case
that
was
going
through
the
system.
For
example,
we
have
basically
three
phases
of
our
ethics
complaint
cases.
D
If
that
occurs,
those
three
members
of
that
panel
aren't
able
to
participate
in
the
adjudication
before
the
commission,
and
this
bill
really
helps
us
out,
because
it
establishes
a
mediation
and
settlement
program
where
we
can,
in
confidentiality,
meet
with
the
parties
and
have
one
of
those
commissioners
that
served
on
the
panel
to
assist
us
in
a
settlement.
Negotiation.
D
The
chair
of
the
commission
as
an
accountant.
So
this
was
an
important
pro
provision
that
assists
both
our
public
officers
when
they
do
have
conflicts
to
not
have
to
disclose
that
confidential
information
that
would
not
be
disclosed
otherwise
under
law.
D
Let's
see
in
section
33
consistent
with
the
feedback
from
the
legislatures
on
the
cooling
off
prohibitions,
the
cooling
off
provisions
under
the
ethics
law
are
restriction
from
one
year
after
leaving
public
service
to
be
privately
employed
with
an
agency
contract
vendor
and
what
the
bill
does.
It
just
brings
that
up
to
a
higher
level
before
every
public
employee
that
was
above
a
clerical
error
would
be
subject
to
the
law,
but
now
it
brings
it
up
to
certain
management
level.
Employees.
D
Section
35
allows
the
commission
to
gather
additional
information
when
we
receive
a
request
for
an
advisory
opinion.
Advisory
opinions
are
the
main
function
of
the
commission
in
rendering
preventative
advice
to
public
officers
and
public
employees,
and
in
doing
so,
we
only
have
a
45-day
deadline
to
render
that
advice
once
they
file
the
request.
D
Section
36,
along
with
granting
additional
time,
does
provide
statutory
discretion
for
the
commission
to
grant
appropriate
extensions
which
are
based
upon
good
cause
and
which
must
have
defined
deadlines
in
their
establishment.
Examples
of
good
cause
are
emergency
situations
such
as
the
coveted
pandemic
we've
had
in
the
last
year,
family,
medical
leave
or
vacancies
and
positions.
D
In
addition,
it
allows
us
to
stay
advisory
opinions
when
we
receive
an
ethics
complaint
on
the
same
subject
matter,
because
the
ethics
complaint
itself
is
more
of
a
process
that
has
representation
and
it
is
not
unilateral
advisory.
Opinions
are
unilateral.
Only
based
upon
these
subjects.
D
D
That's
coming
up
that
day
or
the
next
day
and
the
advisory
opinion
process
is
a
much
more
formal
process
and
takes
time
to
complete
those
opinions
on
behalf
of
the
commission,
and
this
would
allow
the
commission,
council
or
the
executive
director
to
provide
limited
advice
to
the
requester
so
that
they
have
somewhere
where
they
believe
that
they
can
actually,
you
know,
perform
their
duties
with
some
advice
from
from
the
commission
as
a
body.
D
D
In
addition,
section
38
basically
indicates
that
the
commission
will
hold
its
hearings
on
ethics
complaint
in
public,
but
we're
not
subject
to
the
notice
requirements
of
the
open
meeting
law.
Most
of
the
commissions
proceeding
at
this
time
are
not
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law
requirements.
D
So
you
know
that
has
had
no
concerns
from
stakeholders
to
us
and
I
think
that
it
would
really
help
us
in
functioning,
especially
because
our
short
deadlines,
we
have
a
60-day
deadline
to
actually
put
the
adjudicatory
hearing
together
unless
there
is
a
waiver
from
the
subject,
and
in
that
case
you
know
to
comply
with
long
notice.
Requirements
under
the
open
meeting
law
was
becoming
problematic.
D
Sections
41-42
allow
the
ability
of
the
commission
to
conduct
a
preliminary
inju
investigation
back
at
the
inves
at
the
jurisdictional
stage
oftentimes.
We
will
get
a
request
for
a
complaint
and
there's
very
limited
facts,
but
there's
a
public
record
out
there
that
we
could
take
a
look
at
to
see
if
there's
enough
information
to
determine
whether
or
not
there's
enough
evidence
to
substantiate
the
commission
taking
jurisdiction
over
that
matter.
D
Again,
43
section
43
authorizes
the
presiding
officer
to
grant
good
cause
extensions
which
have
to
have
a
reasonable
deadline
set
and
would
be
subject
just
like
the
court.
If
there's
so
is
there's
good
cause
presented,
extensions
could
be
granted,
and
this
goes
both
ways
in
the
covet
pandemic.
D
We
had
many
people
asking
us
for
requests
for
extensions
and
what
happened
for
those
cases
is
another
case
would
come
in
that
didn't
have
the
subject
didn't
want
extension,
so
we
were
basically
bound
and
determined
to
meet
the
statutory
deadlines
in
that
case,
which
put
older
cases
in
the
queue
farther
behind,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
commission
has
a
backlog
right
now
and
we're
really
hoping
this
bill
will
help
us
cure
that
backlog
as
part
of
the
notice
system.
D
Under
the
ethics
law,
we
could
receive
complaints
from
requesters
that
work
in
the
same
agency
or
are
entitled
to
other
confidentiality
protections,
and
we
try
to
reject
those
complaints.
But
we,
we
believe
in
the
commission
directed
that
we
pursue
a
bill
where
we
can
actually
send
a
notice
of
complaint
rather
than
sending
what
a
requester
provides
to
the
commission
itself.
D
So
it's
at
the
beginning,
when
we
accept
jurisdiction,
we'll
do
a
formal
notice
if
it
goes
to
the
review
panel
for
a
three-person
member
panel
to
determine
whether
there's
just
insufficient
cause
for
it
to
go
to
the
commission
again.
There's
another
notice
at
that
point
in
time,
and
that
will
be
the
the
charges,
basically
that
that
three-member
panel
determines
to
send
forward.
They
could
dismiss.
D
Some
section
47
adds
a
schedule
for
discovery
which
identifies
and.
A
I
thank
you
for
I
thank
you
for
walking
us
through
all
the
sections,
but
we
really
didn't
need
a
section
by.
We
need
to
just
get
something
if
we
could
just
finish
up,
give
us
a
high
level
to
get
us
to
56
or
whatever,
and
then
we'll
go
from
there
and
the
conversation
about
amendments
that
were
proposed
I'll,
be
happy
to
have
that
conversation
with
the
chair
of
legislative
operations
and
elections.
But
we
do
have
another
proposed
amendment
which
we
need
to
get
to
this
evening.
A
D
Will
do
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
committee
for
your
patience.
Just
at
the
end,
we
do
have
the
ability
the
commission
has
to
treat
comparable
situations
in
a
comparable
manner
and
also
on
the
safe
harbor
protections
under
the
ethics
law.
The
bill
will
now
extend
those
safe
harbor
provisions
to
the
informal
advice
that
the
executive
director
or
the
commission
counsel
renders
to
a
public
office
or
public
employee,
and
that
is
a
real
high
level
synopsis.
I
tried
to
go
really
fast
and
I
appreciate
your
patience.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record
kevin
powers,
general
counsel,
lcb
legal
division.
As
you
know,
the
lcb
legal
division
is
a
nonpartisan
legal
agency.
We
don't
support
or
oppose
any
policy
viewpoint
or
legislation.
Instead,
we
provide
the
legislature
and
its
members
with
objective
legal
analysis
and
advice,
including
analysis
on
the
legal
effects
of
legislation.
B
There's
concurrent
jurisdiction,
the
house
can
still
discipline
for
those
types
of
complaints,
but
at
the
same
time,
currently
the
commission
on
ethics
has
jurisdiction
over
legislators
for
non-core
legislative
functions.
Some
of
those
non-core
legislative
functions
are
the
prohibitions
on
entering
into
certain
contracts
with
state
and
local
governments,
prohibitions
on
receiving
an
honorarium
payment
for
a
speech
and
prohibitions
dealing
with
certain
other
matters
that
are
not
part
of
the
core
legislative
function.
B
Sections
59
through
77
are
establishing
definitions.
A
lot
of
these
definitions
repeat:
what's
in
the
existing
ethics
law,
and
what
will
happen
in
this
mock-up?
Is
we've
taken
a
lot
of
what's
from
the
existing
ethics
law?
That
applies
to
state
and
local
government
and
moved
it
into
this
chapter
and
again,
so
the
prohibitions
will
be
the
same,
and
the
ethics
standards
will
be
the
same
but
they'll
be
administered
by
the
legislative
branch.
B
So
section
78
through
82,
established
the
jurisdictional
requirements
and
a
statute
of
limitations
which
is
similar
to
the
existing
statute
of
limitations
in
chapter
281a
for
the
ethics
law
and
that's
a
two-year
statute
of
limitations
and
also
provides
that
the
respective
commissions
creating
by
the
bill
will
have
jurisdiction
to
investigate
any
legislative
officer,
employee
or
former
legislative
officer
employee,
for
any
violation
of
the
ethical
standards
established
by
this
legislation.
B
89
are
important:
they
establish
statutory
ethical
standards
for
the
legislative
branch
of
government,
but
again
they
mirror
the
existing
ethical
standards
that
are
in
the
ethics
law
in
chapter
281a
of
nrs.
So
what
you
see
is
looks
like
a
lot
of
new
language.
All
of
it
consists
of
existing
prohibitions
and
standards
from
the
ethics
law
in
281a.
B
That
now
will
be
in
title
17
of
nrs
governing
the
legislative
branch.
So
there's
no
need
to
go
through
all
of
these
new
sections,
because
all
they
are
is
repeating
all
the
ethics
on
prohibitions
that
exist
now
and
that
I'm
assume
all
legislators
are
familiar
with,
because
we
obviously
provide
training
on
those
standards.
B
those
established
the
three
bodies:
I've
mentioned
the
senate
commission
on
ethics,
the
assembly
commission
on
ethics
and
the
joint
commission
on
ethics.
The
senate
commission
will
have
authority
to
hear
fx
complaints
against
all
officers
and
employees
of
the
senate.
The
assembly
commission
will
have
jurisdiction
to
hear
fx
complaints
again
all
officers
and
employees
of
the
assembly
and
the
joint
commission
will
have
jurisdiction
here.
Ethics
complaint
against
all
other
legislative
officers
and
employees,
which
would
mostly
be
those
officers
employees
of
the
legislative
council
bureau.
B
The
reason
of
creating
the
joint
commission
is
so
that
one
house
isn't
required
to
enforce
ethics
provisions
against
the
legislative
council
bureau,
which
is
a
non-partisan
agency
that
supports
both
houses.
So
the
members
three
members
of
the
senate,
commission,
three
members
of
the
assembly
commission
form
the
joint
commission
so
that
if
there's
an
ethics
complaint
against
an
lcb
employee,
then
that
joint
commission
would
hear
that
ethics
complaint.
B
Oh
one
last
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
the
the
ethical
standards
in
this
proposed
legislation
would
be
statutory
ethical
standards,
but
they
would
be
in
addition
to
the
ethical
standards
that
are
in
right
now.
The
joint
rules,
the
legislative
code
of
ethical
standards,
are
in
the
joint
rules.
This
would
be
in
addition
to
it.
It
would
not
supplant
it,
and
so
legislators
and
legislative
officers
employed
would
be
subject
to
the
statutory
provisions
and
to
also
the
rule
provisions
dealing
with
ethical
standards.
B
Finally,
there's
a
provision
that
if
there
was
any
conflict
between
the
rules
and
the
statute,
the
rules
would
take
precedence.
That's
because,
under
article
4
section
6,
the
rule-making
power
of
each
house
takes
precedence
over
statutory
provisions.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
again
I'm
open
for
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
powers.
You
made
all
that
green
language
understandable.
We
appreciate
it
so
with
that
committee
members.
Are
there
any
questions
at
this
time
on
the
proposed
amendment
that
mr
powers
just
walked
us
through
not
seeing
any
questions?
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
powers
appreciate
that.
A
So,
knowing
that
there
is,
we
do
need
to
get
the
chair
of
legislative
operations
back
if
there
are
was
conceptual
amendments
proposed
in
the
original
committee.
Mr
powers,
are
you
aware?
Oh,
I
already
lost
him.
Oh
he's
back
mr
powers.
Are
you
aware
of
any
of
the
amendments
that
were
proposed
in
the
policy
committee
on
this
bill?
A
B
At
the
time
of
the
hearing,
the
commissioner
ethics
did
present
those
two
conceptual
amendments.
I
don't
know.
I
looked
under
the
assembly
legislative
ops
site
that
doesn't
appear
appear
that
those
amendments
were
presented
in
writing,
but
they
did
present
them
at
the
hearing.
I
am
familiar
with
those
proposed
amendments.
They
weren't
included
in
the
mock-up,
because
the
lcb
legal
didn't
provide
what
wasn't
provided
with
that
direction.
So
I
do
believe
that
we
need
to
consult
with
the
chair
to
determine
whether
we
are
going
to
go
forward
with
those
proposed
amendments.
B
One
other
alternative
as
well
is
that
if
the
assembly,
I'm
sorry
if
the
assembly
ways
and
means
wants
to
move
the
amendment,
the
mock-up
as
it
is
tonight,
the
commission
on
ethics
could
certainly
propose
those
amendments
on
the
other
house
and
that's
another
way
for
those
amendments
to
continue
along
in
the
process.
If
we
need
to
move
this
bill
quickly
during
this
hearing,
if
we
don't
have
access
to
the
chair
of
legislative
operations.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
And,
and
thank
you
much
mr
powers-
we've
worked
together
for
a
very
long
time.
You
read
my
mind
because
we
do
know
this
is
an
a
b
and
there
is
a
time
crunch
on
it,
and
we
do
know
that
we
have
two
houses
for
a
reason.
So
thank
thank
you
very
much
with
that.
We'll
hope
the
chair
gets
back.
If
she
doesn't,
we
don't
want
to
slow
this
down.
A
There's
other
ways
to
address
those
conceptual
amendments
as
they
move
forward.
So
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
the
committee,
not
seeing
anyone.
We
will
consider
this
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
65
with
the
proposed
amendment,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
for
hearing
purposes
with
that.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
room
in
support
of
assemblybill
65,
seeing
none
there
is
no
one
on
zoom
is
broadcast
services.
Do
we
have
anyone
in
support
on
the
phone
line
for
assembly
bill
65.
E
E
E
C
A
Thank
you
any
other
callers
on
the
phone
and
support.
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that.
I
believe
we
can
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
65.
It's
the
chair
and
intent
to
move
this
bill
this
evening
to
make
sure
it
gets
to
the
four
but
floor,
but
we're
going
to
investigate
a
little
bit
further
to
see
if
those
amendments
in
the
committee
are
actually
available
or
if
our
chair
of
legislative
operations
survives
the
second
floor
and
makes
it
back
to
the
third
floor
in
the
near
future.
A
A
A
F
Thank
you,
chair
carlton,
vice
chairman
roy
moreno
members
of
the
assembly
waste
committee.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
joan
ebert.
I
am
honored
to
serve
as
the
state
superintendent
of
public
instruction
to
begin.
I
just
provide
you
a
brief
background
regarding
the
department's
support
of
boards
commissions
and
councils
in
february
of
2016.
F
Dear
todd
butterworth,
with
the
research
division
of
legislative
council
bureau,
published
an
issue
paper
that
included
the
components
of
nevada's
elementary
and
secondary
education
governance
structure.
At
that
time,
which
was
only
five
years
ago,
there
were
ten
commissions
the
department
staffed
and
supported
using
184.5
full-time
staff
members.
F
The
department
currently
staffs
and
supports
includes
the
council
of
for
family
engagement,
the
committee
to
oversee
the
charter
school
audit
list,
the
commission
on
educational
technology,
the
commission
on
professional
standards,
the
commission
on
school
funding,
the
council
to
establish
academic
standards,
the
english
mastery
council,
the
nevada
advisory
commission
on
mentoring,
the
nevada,
early
childhood
advisory
council,
the
nevada
state
financial
literacy
advisory
council.
The
special
education
advisory
council
also
known
as
ciac
the
statewide
council
for
the
coordination
of
the
regional
professional
training
programs,
the
teachers
and
leaders
council.
F
F
F
F
The
department's
request
to
repeal
a
board
commission
or
council
was
made
because
of
the
work
that
the
body
is
already
conducting
through
stakeholder
engagement,
the
one
out
of
the
three
that
I
would
provide
as
an
example
is
the
commission
on
educational
technology,
which
I
actually
served
on
over
20
years
ago.
That
was
started
under
governor
bob
miller.
F
He
had,
and
the
legislature
excuse
me
started
and
placed
60
million
dollars
to
be
overseen
to
place
at
that
point
in
time,
one
computer
in
every
classroom,
so
we
needed
the
expertise
across
our
state
to
develop
networking
put
computers,
professional
development.
There
was
a
great
purpose
for
that
commission
at
that
point
in
time,
but
our
state
has
grown.
Our
school
districts
have
great
support
the
department
itself
and
then
also
the
collaborative
work
across
our
state.
F
We
are
the
only
state
in
the
nation
that
has
every
single
child
that
has
had
to
participate
in
distance
education
with
a
device
and
with
internet
connectivity.
We
move
quickly.
We
know
how
to
support
educational
technology
in
our
state
and
so
that
commission,
at
this
point
in
time,
has
served
its
its
being
if
you
will
and
we
would
like
to
move
forward
without
that
work
added
in
this
way,
we
also
have
looked
at
the
family
and
parent
engagement
council.
F
In
that
way,
we're
not
changing
any
of
the
transparency.
That's
required
any
of
the
reports
and
the
expectations
for
having
family
engagement.
We
know
how
important
student
success
is
number
one
engaged
family
engaged
family,
and
so
we
as
the
department
need
to
continue
that
work
with
the
council,
but
in
a
different
way.
F
We
also
learned
during
the
covet
19
pandemic,
our
connection
to
the
regional
professional
development
programs.
We
do
not
have
a
formal
link
between
the
department
and
the
regional
professional
development
programs
at
this
time,
and
so
looking
at
the
construct,
we
have
three
programs
that
are
extremely
successful,
that
provide
support
for
our
teachers,
for
our
educators,
our
administrators
across
the
state
and
so
what
the
proposal
in
this
bill.
F
F
There
are
no
fiscal
notes.
The
reason
why
this
bill
was
pulled
into
finance
to
begin
with
is
there's
actually
cost
savings.
What
we're
recommending
in
this
bill
is
the
removal
of
the
end,
of
course,
exams
that
we
have
as
a
state.
They
have
to
serve
their
purpose
over
time.
But
we
currently
because
of
the
every
student
succeeds
act,
are
required
to
have
a
high
school
assessment
college
and
career
ready.
Our
state
has
selected
the
a.c.t,
and
so
that
is
administered
for
our
high
school
students
and
yesterday.
F
Also
in
this
bill
on,
I
can't
believe
it
was
just
monday,
but
in
the
funding
bill
senate
bill,
458,
sections,
11
and
12
in
that
bill
actually
refer
to
this
bill,
sb
76
and
that's
in
regard
to
the
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That
currently
goes
to
the
statewide
council
on
the
regional
professional
development
program.
F
We
have
worked
also
too
in
this
bill.
You'll
see
the
alignment
of
the
budget
decisions
that
were
made
to
restore
the
funding
for
the
external
evaluations.
External
evaluations
are
critical
to
the
work
we
internally
we
work
with
our
school
districts.
We
also
have
a
plethora
of
federal
compliance,
the
department
we
actually
went
through
massive
audits
in
january
believe
it
or
not
in
february
during
the
pandemic,
but
all
of
our
title,
one
two
three
four.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
think
I
have
one
brief
question
to
start
and
then
I'm
sure
there
are
some
others
you
you
just
mentioned
transparency,
but
I've
noticed
in
a
couple
places
where
some
reporting
is
taken
out
and
I'll
just
mention
on
page
17,
sub
5
line
21
we're
changing
a
quarterly
report
to
an
annual
report.
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
exactly
what
the
report
is.
A
I'm
just
curious
what
the
thought
process
behind
that,
because
I'm
sure
the
legislators
that
put
the
quarterly
in
there
had
a
reason
to
do
it
because
they
wanted
to
keep
their
finger
on
it.
They
wanted
to
know
what
was
going
on
it's
better,
to
know
progress
rather
than
learn
at
the
end
of
a
year
that
the
thing
jumped
the
track.
So
I'm
just
curious
about
why
you
would
want
to
get
rid
of
quarterly
reporting
and
go
to
annual
reporting.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
superintendent,
ebert
for
the
record
for
that
specific
report.
When
you
look
over
the
last,
I
would
say
almost
five
six
years.
The
quarterly
reports
are
very,
very
similar
they're
in
regard
to
specific
construct
that
exists
within
school
districts
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
movements
once
the
school
year
starts.
F
The
work
is
done
on
the
front
end,
and
so
we
put
that
as
an
annual
report
that
they
must
look
at
the
class
size
report
that
to
the
state
department
and
also
to
the
state
board
of
education,
and
so
they
appeared
to
be
duplicative.
If
you
will,
because
once
the
year
starts,
it
doesn't
do
a
a
major
shift.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
with
that
questions,
mrs
beninez-thompson.
G
Thank
you
so
much
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
on
section
three,
because
I
feel
like
this
is.
This
is
appropriate,
as
I
have
served
on
the
advisory
council
for
family
engagement
on
and
off
throughout
the
course
of
my
legislative
career,
and
I
know
that
my
attendance
depended
largely
on
other
legislative
commitments
I
had
so.
G
I
think
there
was
a
year
where,
like
every
meeting
was
the
same
day
as
ifc,
and
I
remember
one
time
trying
to
run
back
and
forth
between
this
building
and
the
department
of
education
to
like
keep
a
quorum
for
that
meeting,
and
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
I
think
that
committee
works
really
well
and
will
work
better.
We
don't
want
legislators
as
well
intentioned
and
big-hearted
as
they
are
to
hold
up
the
quorum
on
there.
G
So
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
put
on
the
record
that
I
think
that
that
was
the
right.
It
is
the
right
direction
to
go
in
ultimately,
and
so
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
mentioned
that.
A
And
if
I
may,
man
a
majority
leader,
I
I
understand
where
it
can
be
difficult
to
get
a
quorum,
but
whenever
I
see
that
legislators
are
being
excluded
from
a
conversation,
I
need
to
know
the
reason
why
they're
being
excluded.
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
what
I
would
say
is
that
again,
at
the
beginning
of
all
of
this,
it's
to
create
agility
in
this
work
and
the
example
that
I
would
use
most
recently
is
we
had
a
blue
ribbon
commission
to
address
the
needs
of
the
pandemic,
the
people
that
I
called
actually
to
spin
up,
because
this
body
was
not
in
session.
I
called
speaker
for
nominees.
He
actually
nominated
the
vice
chair
of
this
group
to
serve
as
well
as
I
called
assemblywoman
titus,
and
she
asked
assemblywoman
tolls
to
serve.
F
F
We
looked
at
different
commissions
and
committees
that
could
benefit
from
the
ability
to
move
quickly,
be
agile,
meet
the
intent
of
the
group
and
so
I'll
go
back
to
the
the
family
engagement.
That
was
just
noted.
All
the
components
and
the
expectations
of
the
group
is
still
there.
The
quorum
did
change.
We
take,
I
guess
I'll
use.
Another
concrete
example
as
well
last
legislative
with
the
financial
literacy
council.
We
could
not
get
the
appointments
until
almost
six
months
later
than
when
this
body
finished
meeting.
F
We
would
have
loved
to
start
the
work
within
a
few
months,
but
because
of
the
construct
that
is
currently
in
place,
we
couldn't
start
meeting
until
six
months
later
and
so
time
is
of
the
essence.
You
make
these
decisions.
We
want
to
be
able
to
react
to
them,
but
the
current
construct
on
some
of
these
does
not
make
it
easy
for
us
to
move
the
work
forward.
A
With
that
missed
holes,.
H
Yes,
thank
you
chair
and
thanks
for
presenting
this
good
to
see
you
now
we're
all
getting
tired
as
we're
getting
closer
to
the
finish
line
here
section
one
kind
of
along
that
same
line
of
I
know
that
we're
moving
the
reporting
from
every
year-
and
this
is
in
regards
to
the
state
board
preparing
a
plan
to
improve
the
achievement
of
of
pupils
and
currently
in
statute.
We
have
that
plan.
H
That's
collaboratively
put
together
every
year
and
instead
we're
changing
it
to
every
five
years,
and
I
was
just
wondering
why
move
it?
Why
extend
it
that
long,
particularly
when,
in
the
legislature
we're
meeting
every
two
years
and
that
information
that
plan
could
be
helpful.
F
Thank
you,
superintendent,
ebert,
for
the
record,
so
the
plan
itself
as
a
master
plan.
When
you
set
goals
and
again
here
too,
we
did
research
and
looked
at
best
practices
for
an
overarching
plan,
all
of
those
with
the
state
board
of
education
and
again
the
other
reports
that
we
produce
for
this
body.
Most
of
them
are
on
a
bi-annual
basis,
the
ones
that
I
had
mentioned
earlier
with
the
evaluations
of
components.
F
We
also
have
our
nevada
report
card
that
is
made
available
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week
for
mining
data
and
providing
information
so
overarching
setting
the
master
plan
and
setting
that
vision
and
those
goals
that
we're
going
to
strive
for
in
five
years
and
progress
monitoring
along
the
way
is
the
thought
process
behind
that
shift.
H
I
Miss
monroe
moreno,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
a
few
things,
if
I
may,
madam
chair,
since
the
introduction
of
this
bill
in
the
senate
site,
I
don't
know
about
anyone
else's
phone,
but
I
know
my
phone
and
emails
have
been
blowing
up
with
community
members,
afraid
of
their
with
so
much
change,
going
on
with
the
changes
we're
making
with
the
funding
structure,
of
what
we're
doing
with
it's
a
huge
thing,
but
then
making
changes
with
the
commissions
that
they
felt
that
they
had
a
voice
on
is
an
issue,
but
the
biggest
call
that
I've
gotten
concerned,
the
mentoring
commission
and
it's
in
section
4.5,
subsection
7,
the
deletion
of
the
support
for
the
commission.
I
F
Thank
you
for
the
question
superintendent
ebert
for
the
record,
so
every
commission
that
the
state
department
supports
first
starts
with
you
know
the
gathering
of
all
the
members
making
sure
that
they
understand
the
constructs.
We
talked
about
ethics
just
a
little
bit
ago,
all
of
those
components
making
sure
that
we
have
the
meetings
posted
minutes
all
of
the
those
components
that
are
there
and
so
in
this
instance,.
F
Knowing
actually
let
me
back
up
when
I
returned
home
two
years
ago,
the
bill
moving
forward
for
nacom
for
the
commission
on
mentoring,
assemblyman
thompson
pulled
me
in
his
office
and
said
we
need
to
get
this
going.
It
hasn't
been
moving
in
the
right
direction.
I
work
with
the
staff
and
found
out
that
it
was
a
staffing
issue,
as
I
noted,
and
so
at
that
point
in
time
we
tried
to
add
staff
getting
it
through
a
bill.
We
could
not,
and
so
this
commission
was
never
staffed
and
still
hasn't.
F
F
Mentoring
is
a
massive
undertaking
if
you're
going
to
do
it
right,
and
so
we
this
is
the
only
place
in
statute
where
the
nevada
commission,
on
mentoring
exists.
If
it
had
been
removed,
as
initially
proposed,
it
would
not
exist
and
that's
not
the
intent
so
having
it
exist.
But
knowing
that
to
do
it
right,
we
don't
have
the
staff
to
do.
It
is
why
it
was.
I
Removed
well,
I'm
thank
you
for
the
honesty
in
answering
the
question,
sad
to
hear
that
we
don't
have
the
staff
for
that.
So
perhaps
that's
where
we
need
to
be
adding
staff
to
as
we're
looking
at
all
the
the
changes
like
I
said
earlier,
as
we
look
at
all
the
changes
that
we're
going
through
with
our
education
system
right
now
as
we're
transitioning
into
this
new
funding
structure
for
education,
I'm
I'm
not
comfortable
and
I'm
not
sure
how
the
other
members
are,
I'm
not
comfortable
in
having
less
reporting.
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
the
department
has
the
the
staffing
that
they
need
to
to
properly
address
the
the
the
commissions
that
we
have
create
it.
So
if
you
have
not
had
this
the
staffing-
and
that
was
the
resource
that
you
need
it,
I
apologize
for
that
and
I'll
be
fighting
to
help
you
get
that,
but
the
less
reporting
that's
in
the
bill
is
concerning
to
me.
I
I
was
able
to
make
it
to
a
few
of
those
blue
ribbon
meetings,
not
all
of
them
because
of
conflicts
with
other
meetings,
but
I
know
that
legislators
do
want
to
be
involved.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
are
as
involved
as
possible
and
as
we
go
through
this,
because
we're
going
to
have
to
report
back
to
our
constituents
about
the
changes
that
were
made
so
keeping
us
involved
is
is
key.
I
The
reporting
not
just
to
us,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
report
back
to
our
constituents,
is
key
and
they're
your
constituents
as
well
and
making
sure
that
the
community
is
involved
is
important
to
me,
madam
chair,
and
making
sure
that
you
have
the
staffing
that
you
need,
especially
for
the
mentoring
commission,
because
that's
where
I'm
getting
calls
from
my
community.
A
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
have
a
quick
money
question,
since
this
is,
after
all,
money
committee,
section
13.,
I'm
curious
about
that
process.
In
section
13
it
says
the
department
shall
and
then
you
strike
out
in
consultation
with
the
commission,
adopt
regulations
to
establish
a
program
where
school,
districts
and
charter
schools
may
apply
to
the
department
for
money
from
the
trust
fund.
So
in
the
past
there
was
some
oversight
or
consultation
with
the
commit
education
commission
on
how
how
this
money
should
be
dispensed.
J
F
Thank
you,
superintendent,
ebert,
for
the
to
respond
in
that
instance,
and
I
would
have
to
double
check,
and
maybe
my
staff
knows
off
the
top
of
their
head.
I
don't
believe
there
has
been
in.
There
are
not
any
funds
there
and
there
hasn't
been
in
over
a
decade.
F
That
being
said,
I
do
agree
with
you
that
oversight
for
anyone
needs
to
happen
at
all
points
in
time
that
was
removed,
because
we
are
requesting
that
the
commission
on
educational
technology
be
removed.
So.
J
F
Excuse
me,
superintendent
ebert,
for
the
record,
so
the
the
fund
is
not
going
away
it's
there.
If
people
would
like
to
contribute
to
the
fund,
we
always
would
like
to
have
additional
funds,
but
the
shift
is
moving
because
the
commission
itself
would
no
longer
exist,
and
so
that's
where
we
put
the
department
in
its
place.
J
F
A
Other
committee
members,
at
this
time,
not
seeing
any
I
do-
have
concerns
with
section
one.
A
We're
currently
a
plan
is
to
be
submitted
for
on
the
achievement
of
pupils
enrolled
in
public
schools,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
because
we
have
the
commission
now,
but
the
bill
instead
is
going
to
change
that
to
that
plan
being
submitted
every
five
years
instead
of
every
one
year.
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
superintendent,
ebert
for
the
record
so,
and
I
hear
you
what
you're
saying
the
intent
is
not
for
you
not
to
have
the
information.
The
intent
is
to
set
the
goals
for
the
five
years
and
then
for
us
to
progress,
monitor
those
goals
that
we
actually
hold
ourselves
accountable
at
every
single
board
meeting
with
the
state
board
of
education
and
report
on
specifically
those
goals.
That's
a
process
we're
currently
working
on
with
the
new
state
board
in
place
and
and
all
of
those
all
of
that
information
will
be
publicly
available.
A
Well,
we
don't
want
to
have
to
subpoena
you
and
I've
done
that
before
so
I
just
don't
want
to
have
to
do
it
again.
I
think
it's
important
that
the
legislature
gets
the
information
that
we
need
and
when
you're
talking
about
every
five
years,
that's
two
sessions
that
go
by.
I
mean
depending
upon
how
it's
staggered,
and
you
know.
Ultimately,
we
have
the
responsibility
to
fund
education,
so
we
ultimately
have
the
responsibility
to
monitor
how
that
achievement
happens.
F
F
A
And
without
a
without
a
statutory
reporting
component,
we
would
have
to
request
it
every
time
and
we've
been
down
this
road
with
other
agencies
and
and
directors
and
had
to
fight
to
get
information.
So
I
don't
want
to
see
that
happen
with
education
when
we
already
have
a
current
system
in
place
that
allows
for
us
to
have
that
information
and
not
have
to
go
digging
forward
in
the
future.
A
So
with
that
committee
members
are
there
any
other
questions
at
this
time?
There's
a
couple
other
components
in
here,
but
I
don't
want
to
take
take
the
time
at
this
time.
I
can
take
those
questions
offline,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
other
committee
members
have
a
chance
to
ask
questions,
not
seeing
it
any
at
this
time.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
miss
ebert.
We
appreciate
it
so
with
that
this
is
the
hearing
for
sb
76
I'll,
go
ahead
and
open
it
up.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
room
in
support
of
sb.
K
Thank
you
good
evening,
madam
chair
distinguished
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
jim
frazee
and
I
have
the
honor
of
being
vice
president
of
the
clark
county
education
association.
The
clark
county
education
association
ccea,
represents
more
than
eighteen
thousand
licensed
employers,
employees.
I'm
sorry
in
the
clark
county
school
district,
we
are
the
largest
independent
education
association
in
the
country.
K
We
excuse
me
we're
the
excuse
exclusive
bargaining
unit
for
the
clark
county
school
district,
which
is
the
fifth
largest
in
the
country,
and
we
prov
we
promote
and
engage
in
bipartisan
advocacy
in
advancing
public
education.
Nevada
ccea
would
like
to
voice
our
support
for
senate
bill
76,
as
amended
with
the
change
and
structure
of
the
teacher
leaders.
Council
educators,
who
are
part
of
our
bargaining
unit,
will
be
represented
in
an
equitable
manner.
K
Ccea
thanks,
deputy
superintendent,
gonzalez
and
superintendent
ebert
for
their
collection
collaboration
on
the
bill,
and
we
look
forward
to
continue
to
develop
this
relationship
with
the
department,
this
legislature,
the
governor
mining
and
gaming,
to
ensure
that
we
adequately
fund
education
nevada.
K
L
Go
ahead,
please
good
evening
committee,
chairwoman,
carlton
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
dr
brenda
pearson,
representing
the
clark
county
education
association.
Cca
would
like
to
voice
our
support
for
senate
bill
76,
as
citizens
of
nevada
have
witnessed
over
the
last
year.
It
is
important
that
our
k-12
education
system
be
both
responsive
to
emerging
needs
and
efficient
in
carrying
forth
needed
adjustments.
L
Cca
believes
the
removal
of
committees
that
are
duplicative
will
increase.
The
department's
responsiveness
to
addressing
the
needs
of
our
students
and
our
educators
cca
believes
that,
as
amended,
the
importance
of
educator
representation
of
the
largest
employee
organization
in
the
state
on
the
teachers
and
leaders
council
will
be
made
a
priority
in
nevada.
Additionally,
cca
thanks
to
department
and
they're
for
their
continued
support
and
partnership
in
bringing
this
amended
language
to
fruition.
Cca
looks
forward
to
the
implementation
of
this
bill
and
we
thank
this
committee
for
their
hard
work
this
legislative
session.
L
Most
importantly,
we
thank
this
committee
for
the
historic
investment
in
education
that
has
taken
place
and
we
are
committed
to
continue
our
work
with
the
legislature,
leadership,
the
governor
mining
and
gaming,
to
ensure
that
the
people-centered
funding
plan
receives
funding
aligned
with
the
commission
on
school
funding's
recommendations.
Thank
you
again
for
your
hard
work.
Our
members
and
students
greatly
appreciate
your
investment
in
the
k-12
education
system.
Thank
you.
C
C
C
This
bill,
as
well
at
sb
76,
removing
the
end
of
course
exams
will
not
only
improve
our
edu
our
students.
Experience
will
also
allow
our
educators
to
spend
more
time.
You
know
working
with
our
students
on
their
mental
health,
ensuring
and
building
those
connections
and
relationships
that
we
also
desperately
missed
over
this
last
school
year.
C
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and,
and
typically
we
don't
have
three
folks
from
the
same
organization
come
forward.
So
if,
in
the
future
you
guys
could
pick
one
representative
to
come
forward,
we
would
appreciate
it
to
make
your
statement.
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
in
the
room
in
support,
seeing
none,
no
one
on
zoom
on
the
phone
lines.
Do
we
have
anyone
in
support.
E
M
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
comment
today
that
the
nevada
commission
on
mentoring
is
in
support
of
the
friendly
amendment
made
in
the
senate
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
that
the
nevada
commission
on
mentoring
is
intact
with
sb
76.
We
would
like
to
thank
superintendent
ebert
for
her
leadership
and
work
in
working
with
our
commission.
Thank
you
so
much
and
have
a
good
day.
E
C
Good
evening
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
jason
trevino
and
I'm
the
chair
of
the
state
school
safety
task
force
and
I'd
just
like
to
say
that
the
task
force
is
very
thankful
for
nde
and
staff
for
working
with
us,
in
particular
on
the
on
this
bill,
and
I
appreciate
them
hearing
our
concerns
with
the
original
bill
and
the
way
it
was
written
and
ultimately
adding
the
last
amendment
that
was
introduced
that
restored
the
school
safety
task
force
back
to
its
original
language.
E
A
N
The
reason
I
introduced
this
bill
is
last
session.
I
introduced
senate
bill
174
because
I
believe
that
children
on
medicaid
were
not
getting
the
same
opportunity
at
treatment
if
they
were
on
the
autism
spectrum
as
kids,
who
had
private
insurance
and
in
senate
bill
174
last
session,
I
sought
a
rate
increase
for
the
registered
behavioral
therapists,
the
rbts,
who
who
work
with
kids
on
medicaid
to
48
dollars
an
hour.
Unfortunately,
that
didn't
survive
the
senate
finance
committee.
A
A
I
believe
I
probably
skipped
the
opposition
on
the
last
bill
is
what
I'm
being
told
so
we're
going
to
do
a
do-over.
I.
A
I'm
sure
no
senator
believe
me,
I'm
I'm
very
interested
in
what
you
have
to
say,
but
unfortunately
I
guess
I
went
from
support
to
neutral
and
I
guess
I
skipped
opposition.
Did
I
okay?
Well,
then
I've
been
caught
red-handed
so
with
that
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
up
we're
going
to
reopen
the
hearing
on
sb
76,
and
I
shouldn't
be
doing
these
things
at
9
30
at
night
on
a
friday
night.
O
Madam
chair
chris
daley
nevada
state
education,
association
in
opposition
to
sb
76,
we'll
try
to
be
very
brief.
We
did
oppose
the
bill
in
the
senate
education
committee.
We
have
an
exhibit
that
you
can
review.
O
If
you
choose
to
move
forward,
the
amendment
basically
would
restore
the
fourth
appointment
by
nsca
to
the
teachers
and
leaders.
Council,
we've
been
an
active
participant
there
from
the
beginning,
we're
responsible
for
putting
forward
names
that
represent
a
geographic
diversity
of
the
state
and
those
four
appointments.
Allow
us
to
do
the
state
justice.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
N
I
sought
a
rate
increase
for
children
on
medicaid
who
are
receiving
services
because
they're
on
the
spectrum
that
part
of
the
bill
got
amended
out,
but
an
audit
of
services
to
children
in
the
state
on
the
spectrum
survived
about
a
year
ago
with
the
work
I
do
in
my
normal
life
and
what
I
see
with
kids,
not
getting
services,
not
getting
treatment.
I
felt
the
need
was
still
there,
so
I
requested
a
bill
on
a
rate
increase
again
and
fast
forward.
N
Six
months
when
the
audit
came
out,
which
is
probably
one
of
the
most
thorough
audits,
I've
seen
the
lcb
audit
division
ever
put
together,
and
I
thank
them
for
for
their
thoroughness
and
working
so
hard
on
this
audit.
I
think
a
lot
of
what
what
I
and
many
other
activists
and
parents
believed
really
I
think
was
was
was
proven
here
by
this
audit
in
terms
of
the
shortcomings
of
what
we're
doing
serving
children,
who
don't
have
private
insurance
in
the
state
who
are
on
the
spectrum.
N
So
senate
bill
96
started
out
as
a
request
to
move
up
to
a
48,
an
hour
rate
increase
from
where
we
are
now,
which
is
you
know,
quite
low
and
then
in
the
assembly
majority
leader,
benitez
thompson
provided
an
amendment
and
was
just
tremendous
on
the
bill,
and
now
I
believe
it
is
something
that
will
really
help
try
to
get
services
to
those
children
on
medicaid.
Try
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
rate
that
will
be
comparable
and
try
to
make
sure
that
some
of
the
deficiencies
in
the
audit
are
also
addressed.
A
N
With
your
indulgence,
I
have
my
colleague
senator
dondero
loop.
I
have
bailey
bordelin
from
legal
aid
center
who
both
worked
with
me
tremendously.
I
have
commissioner
julie
ostrovsky
from
the
commission
on
autism
spectrum
disorders
and
dwayne
young
is
here
from
the
agency
to,
I
think,
provide
a
lot
of
information
about
the
fiscal
notes
and
we'll
all
try
to
be
brief.
Given
the
latest
of
the
hour.
A
And,
thank
you
all
very
much
so
when
we
do
this,
we
would
like
everyone
to
be
as
brief
as
possible.
You've
got
a
pretty
friendly
audience
here,
so
I
think
we
can
just
assume
that
so
with
that
majority
leader
thank.
G
You
so
much
chair
of
ways
and
means
and
ways
and
means
committee
for
hearing
this,
I'm
here
today
as
the
I
guess
still
for
the
moment.
The
present
vice
chair
for
the
audit
committee
of
the
legislative
commission,
and
so
we
heard
this
audit
in
january
became
public
just
before
coming
into
session.
Madam
chairwoman,
as
a
member
of
that
audit,
you
sat
through
this
as
well,
and
so
the
audit
gave
us
lots
of
information.
It
did
analysis
of
the
fiscal
note.
G
G
What
you
see
presented
today
is
coming
from
adsd,
aging
and
disability
services
division
for
the
atap
program,
with
their
cost,
for
this
particular
piece,
so
you're
going
to
see
that
they
believe
it's
going
to
be
454
000
in
fiscal
year
2122
and
then
about
900
000
in
fiscal
year
2223
and
then
an
ongoing
1.8
effect
on
future
biennia,
and
so
a
couple
things
that
we
want
to
keep
in
mind
here
that
the
bill
overall
enacts
a
number
of
pieces
and
recommendations
from
the
audit.
So
I
imagine
what
we
will
see.
G
What
I
believe
that
we
will
see
is
that,
with
a
lot
of
the
cleanup
work
that
we're
doing
on
billing
on
the
collection
of
data
from
the
managed
care
organizations
regarding
claims
and
some
of
the
new
guard
rails
that
we're
putting
in
around
providers,
I
imagine
that
we're
probably
actually
going
to
end
up
in
a
in
a
pretty
good
place.
We
have
been
back
and
forth
about
what
this
rate
will
needs
to
be
for
oh
gosh,
four
to
five
sessions.
G
Miss
bordlin
could
probably
tell
you
more
specifically,
but
I
feel
like
every
session
we
come
in
and
we
have
this
back
and
forth
about
what
the
rate
might
be.
Just
as
a
refresher.
There
are
three
different
types
of
providers
in
this
world.
Two
of
them
are.
The
analysis
found
are
comparable
to
market
rates.
G
It's
one
particular
kind
of
provider,
the
rbt
provider
that
it
was
substantially
lower
than
commercial
market
rates
and
because
the
medicaid
rate
and
the
state
rate
was
substantially
lower,
that
population
just
isn't
getting
access
and
isn't
being
seen
and
it
and
it's
a
huge
parity
issue.
So
I
think
that
we
we
we
take
a
run
at
this.
We
can
come
back
and
look
in
two
years
to
see
if
this
is
our
best
thinking
with
audits
and
studies,
are
we
getting
it
right,
but
but
I
think
that
we're
heading
in
the
right
direction.
H
Billy
bortalin
for
the
record.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
three
legislators
that
have
been
working
so
hard
to
get
us
here,
but
in
the
for
brevity,
I'm
just
here
to
answer
questions.
Should
you
have
any?
A
Very
much
so
with
that
mr
miss
ostrovsky,
did
you
have
anything
that
you'd
like
to
add
at
this
time.
C
C
A
C
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
I
heard
you
talk
about
children
a
lot
and
so
does.
Does
this
extend
beyond
when
they're
a
child,
because
I
you
know,
I
have
a
relative
that
he
he
is
no
he's
in
his
20s
now,
but
still
needs
services
beyond
beyond
18
years
old
or,
however,
it's
defined.
So
one
of
these
services
end.
H
P
Deputy
administrator
dwayne
young
for
the
record,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
assemblyman
levitt,
the
autism
services
covered
by
medicaid,
are
only
to
age,
21
and
they're
covered
under
what
we
call
epsdt
early
periodic
screening,
diagnosis
and
treatment
that
covers
those
through
age,
21.
P
Again,
dwayne
young
deputy
administrator
for
the
record.
No
those
adults
over
the
age
of
21
are
diverted
to
other
rehabilitative
behavioral
health
services
or
long-term
services
and
supports,
depending
upon
their
need
and
their
progression
than
diagnosis.
But
aba
is
not
reimbursed
by
medicaid
for
those
over
21.
H
And
bailey
bortlin
for
the
record,
if
I
could
add
to
that,
these
services
are
really
targeted
for
early
intervention
and
that's
a
huge
part
of
the
reason
that
we
are
seeking
this
access,
because
the
the
rates
have
created.
Wait.
Lists
and
kids
have
languished
on
those
waitlists
for
a
very
long
time
and
what
we
know
from
the
science
and
the
research
behind
this
specific
type
of
treatment
is
that
the
earlier
we
can
access
kids,
the
more
successful
they
will
be
later
in
life.
H
A
Thank
you
very
much
other
questions
from
the
committee
at
this
time.
Not
seeing
any
other
questions.
Thank
you
all
very
much
so
with
that.
I
believe
we
can
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
in
support
and
we've
already
had
miss
ostrovsky's
comments.
So
any
are
there
any
folks
in
the
room
senator
go
ahead.
Come
forward
like
to
testify
and
support.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair
and
committee
marilyn
dondero
loop
for
the
record,
and
I
have
to
say
thank
you,
madam
chair
you've
been
amazing
for
24
years
and
we're
going
to
miss
you.
Thank
you
for
all
you've
done
for
the
state
of
nevada.
H
So
with
that
being
said,
I
just
think
it's
really
important
and
that's
why
I
left
my
finance
committee
to
come
up
here
and
say
there
is
absolutely
nothing
that
I
can
think
of
that
in
my
lifetime
as
an
educator
as
a
parent
as
a
community
member
that
if
we
don't
do
it
earlier
with
children,
they
don't
succeed
better
and
it
doesn't
matter
what
it
is.
Reading
autism
services,
dental
care,
I
don't
care
what
it
is.
H
If
we
do
things
earlier
with
children,
it's
better
for
them,
and
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
is
just
really
important,
and
it's
important
enough
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
went
on
the
record.
So
thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair
and
committee,
and
thank
you
for
all
you're
doing
at
this
late
hour.
Thank.
A
Do
got
a
bunch
of
bills
down
there
on
that
floor,
so
thank
you.
So,
with
that
late
friday,
night
humor,
the
popcorn
will
be
sold
out
in
the
lobby.
So
with
that,
is
there
anyone
else
in
the
room
in
support
of
the
bill,
seeing
no
one
in
support
anyone
else
on
zoom
in
support
not
seeing
anyone
on
zoom
wishing
to
be
recognized
broadcast
services.
Do
we
have
folks
on
the
phone
line
in
support,
and
if
so,
I
would
ask
you
to
please
keep
it
to
two
minutes
and
we'll
go
forward
from
there.
E
C
Yep
good
evening,
chair
members,
give
me
my
apologies.
It's
it's
late
friday
night
and
donut
orders
will
be
taken
on
this
floor.
With
your
permission,
madam
chair,
may
I
defer
to
one
of
our
q
folks,
that's
testifying
from
europe
and
resume
my
testimony
later.
E
Q
A
E
C
My
name
is
molly
halligan
m-o-l-l-y
h-a-l-l-I-g-a-n,
I'm
in
full
support
of
this
bill.
My
I
am
a
provider
here
in
las
vegas,
and
I've
been
a
behavior
analyst
here
in
the
state
for
about
20
years.
C
Children
in
the
state
are
going
without
services
at
an
early
age,
because
this
rate
is
so
low.
Commercial
providers
are
also
matching
this
rate,
which
is
impacting
services
at
a
global
level.
There
are
thousands
of
children
that
are
not
getting
services,
and
the
lack
of
services
at
this
early
age
is
impacting
the
way
that
they're
going
to
develop
later
and
causing
a
much
greater
financial
burden
burden
to
the
state.
C
E
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
randy
gabe
g-a-b-e
and
I'm
a
board
member
for
the
grant
gift
autism
foundation,
which
is
in
partnership
with
unlv
medicine,
to
operate
the
ackermann
autism
center,
which
is
an
atap
provider,
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
sb
96
and
given
the
lateness
of
the
hour.
I
will
be
very
brief.
M
I
wanted
to
inform
the
committee
that,
as
a
atap
provider
for
these
rbt
services,
that
we
have
thousands
of
families
on
our
wait
list,
thousands
of
families
and
that's
just
in
southern
nevada-
there
are
more
statewide
increasing
the
medicaid
reimbursement
rates
for
the
rbt
services
will
help
us
make
a
big
dent
in
that
wait
list
and
allow
more
children
to
be
seen,
and
as
one
of
the
folks
testifying
mentioned,
that
early
intervention
is
the
key.
M
E
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
crick.
That's
k,
l-e-n-I-s-e-k-r
y
k,
I'd
like
to
first
say
thank
you
to
madam
chair
for
sponsoring
sp
96,
it's
imperative
and
life-changing
for
children
with
autism
to
receive
aba
when
xb96
would
allow
access
to
services.
The
wage
for
an
rbt
has
significantly
increased,
with
experienced
rbts
receiving
between
25
and
27
per
hour,
while
the
medicaid
reimbursement
rate
in
nevada
has
remained
stagnant,
being
one
of
the
lowest
in
the
nation.
We've
been
asking
legislators
for
six
years
to
increase
and
this
rate
increases
long
overdue.
Q
Q
E
Q
E
Q
Y-E-S-E-N-I-A
g,
o
n
v,
a
l
e
f
good
evening,
madam
chairs
carlton
and
members
of
the
ways
and
means
committee.
I
am
a
member
and
also
the
assistant
of
our
director
and
founder
of
soul,
blue
united
by
autism,
a
non-profit
organization
serving
our
community
for
over
10
years.
I
come
to
you
representing
the
many
who
are
on
the
spectrum
of
the
community
and
also
as
a
mother
of
an
amazing
son
who
is
all
who
also
have
autism.
Q
Q
My
son
and
myself
personally
have
suffered
from
the
comebacks
and
hours
or
termination
in
these
dire
services
due
to
the
very
limited
availability
of
providers.
My
son
has
regressed
immensely
after
years
of
his
hard
work
in
2019.
We
encountered
this
problem
and
his
therapist
wouldn't
stop
apologizing,
saying
it's
not
us.
It's
medicaid,
ironically,
that
same
the
same
happened
with
my
services
later
that
same
year.
I
have
slowly
reduced
even
more
so
I
have
been
on
a
waiting
list
also
for
my
son
for
a
va
for
three
years
now,
and
that
is
unacceptable.
Q
The
pandemic
caused
many,
like
my
child
to
regress,
and
behaviors
affect
many
at
school
and
at
home
parents
taking
courses
to
be
rbts
to
help
their
children,
but
not
many,
have
the
means
or
ways
of
doing
this.
Also,
the
tools
are
there
but
unattainable
due
to
the
lack
of
their
being
not
being
provided
in
our
state.
This
is
also
found
for
those
who
are
listed
in
english
proficiency,
who
do
not
know
that
they
can
turn
for
help
for
their
child
in
need
of
vital
services
and
also
families
with
limited
to
no
income.
Q
Q
A
E
E
Q
Q
Q
This
rate
will
bring
providers
to
nevada,
and
it
is
the
encouragement
providers
need
to
enroll
and
grow
their
businesses
to
deliver
sufficient
weekly
treatment
hours
more
provider.
Companies
in
nevada
is
good
for
everyone
and
every
child.
Madam
chair,
knowing
this
is
your
last
session,
makes
me
sad.
I
want
to
express
my
gratitude
to
you,
especially.
Q
A
A
Next
caller,
please,
and
I
believe
we
just
have
a
couple
callers
left
on
the
line,
so
we'll
we'll
take
a
couple
more
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
The
next
caller,
please.
E
C
Good
evening,
madam
chair
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
john
paul
saunders,
that's
j-o-n
capital,
p-a-u-l
last
name,
saunders
s-a-u-n-d-e-r-s.
That
was
my
mom,
who
was
just
on
jan
crandy.
My
little
sister
is
megan
cranby.
I
just
want
to
express
nothing
but
gratitude
to
all
the
people
that
worked
so
hard
on
this
bill.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
speak
well
tonight,
and
I
know
it's
late
so
good
night.
A
E
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
michelle
tombari,
m-I-c-h-e-l-e,
t-o-m-b-a
I'll
be
short.
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
I
do
support
sb
96
and
as
a
parent
of
a
recovered
child.
I
know
this
life-changing.
Aba
therapy
for
autism
needs
to
be
accessible
for
all
children
in
nevada,
not
just
the
ones
with
good
health
insurance
or
the
ones
in
wealthy
families.
Q
Sb
96
wealth,
increased
the
number
of
providers,
so
that
improvement
and
possible
recovery
can
become
a
reality
for
children
whose
families
rely
on
medicaid
or
atap.
Money
spent
at
an
early
age
will
reduce
or
eliminate
the
millions
of
dollars
necessary
for
each
child's
long-term
care
and
also
reward
the
state
with
a
successful
tax
paying
citizen.
Q
E
Q
A-S-H-L-Y-N-F-R-I-T-S
I'd
like
to
express
my
support
for
senate
bill
96
I'd
like
to
thank
the
senator
for
bringing
his
leadership
to
help
children
enrolled
in
medicaid
experience
the
same
services
for
autism
that
their
counterparts
with
private
insurance
experience
without
significant
barriers.
Please
support
sb96.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
we'll
take
one
more
if
there.
If
there
is
someone
available
and
then
after
that
we'll
ask
everyone
to
please
send
in
their
comments.
It
is,
is
10
p.m,
and
we
do
need
to
wrap
up
the
committee
meeting
because
we
still
have
floor
work
to
do
today.
So
with
that,
the
if
there's
another
caller.
A
A
A
Broadcast
services,
I
miss
the
raised
hand
for
mr
young.
Mr
young,
would
you
like
to
testify?
Please.
P
Good
evening,
madam
chair
and
committee
dwayne
young
deputy
administrator
for
the
division
of
healthcare
financing
and
policy
for
the
record,
I
did
just
want
to
make
a
clarification
on
the
record
when
we
discussed
this
at
the
senate.
The
division
had
not
had
not
time
to
accurately
calculate
the
fiscal
note
based
on
the
amendment
to,
and
so
there
is
a
2.9
million
dollar
general
fund
impact.
This
was
appropriate
on
the
senate
side.
P
However,
that
appropriation
is
107,
339
short,
and
so
we
would
need
an
appropriation
to
make
that
up
for
meet
this
note-
and
I
also
just
want
to
put
on
the
record
that
the
effect
on
future
biennium
is
20
million
total
computable,
with
a
7
million
dollar
state
general
fund
impact
on
the
next
biennium.
Thank
you.
P
Yes,
the
appropriation
is
short
one
hundred
and
seventh
one
hundred
and
seven
thousand
three
hundred
and
thirty
nine
dollars.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you,
mr
young.
So,
with
that
we
can
go
to
the
phone
lines.
Is
there
anyone
on
the
phone
lines
in
neutral?
That's
not
the
kind
of
neutral
you
want
to
hear,
but
we'll
we'll
deal
with
it.
It's
okay,
I
was
hoping
the
numbers
would
go
the
other
way.
Anyone
on
the
phone
line.
A
A
N
A
A
H
A
Thank
you
with
that.
We
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
sb
96
and
thank
you
to
all
of
our
stalwarts
that
have
been
with
us
all
day.
You
were
waiting
for
your
bills.
This
is
going
to
be
our
last
bill
for
the
evening.
It
is
10
o'clock
and
we
do
need
to
get
some
floor.
Work
done
yet
so
those
three
bills
that
are
left
are
274,
310
and
455..
A
A
A
A
A
Okay,
I
believe
we
have
to
address
ab65
this
evening
and
and
get
it
out
so
that
we
can
get
the
amendment
drafted
in
time
and
keep
this
moving.
So
the
con
committee
members
will
go
ahead
and
take
you
back
to
the
conversation
around
ab65.
We
had
the
presentation
from
the
ethics
commission.
Mr
powers
walked
us
through
the
amendment
the
ethics
commission
had
mentioned
the
other
conceptual
amendments
that
had
been
addressed
in
the
committee.
The
chair
of
legislation.
A
D
What
the
conceptual
amendments
do
to
assembly
bill
65
is:
it
creates
a
new
chapter
in
title
17
of
the
nevada,
revised
statutes
for.
D
Of
government,
three
of
the
main
things
that
it
does
under
that
is
one.
It
creates
a
senate
commission
on.
G
A
No
from
the
commission
from
the
ethics
commission
had
proposed
some
some
small
amendments
at
the
actual
in
the
commit
at
the
committee
level.
A
I
think
I
may
have
them
here.
So,
if
I
understand
correctly,
it
was
section
82
specify
a
duty
to
cooperate,
doesn't
apply
to
attorneys,
representing
parties
involved
in
that
section,
section
22-2
remove
the
requirement
that
the
executive
director
be
a
licensed
attorney
and
instead
make
it
a
preferred
qualification,
and
the
third
proposed
amendment
was
section
27
3
place
conferees
under
seal
and
do
I
have
the
correct
information?
A
Yes
chair?
That
is
correct.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
So
those
particular
amendments
would
be
encapsulated
in
moving
this
forward
hold
on
a
second,
because
ways
and
means
is
doing
way
too
many
amendments.
So
I've
got
to
make
sure
I
do
this
right.
A
So
committee
members,
there
would
be
two
proposed
amendments,
the
conceptual
amendments
which
we
just
discussed
that
were
discussed
at
the
policy
committee
hearing
level.
The
second
proposed
amendment
would
be
the
one
that
mr
powers
walked
us
to
through
amendment
777
to
ab65.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
committee
members
at
this
time?
A
A
We
are
working
from
a
first
reprint,
so
this
would
be
the
two
meant,
the
two
amendments
as
an
amend
and
do
pass
as
amended
comments.
Hearing,
none
I'll,
take
a
motion
from
miss
monroe
moreno,
a
second
from
speaker,
fryerson
questions,
hearing,
none
all
those
in
favor.
Please
signify!
Oh
mr
roberts.
I'm
sorry.
C
Didn't
get
a
chance
to
really
digest
the
tail
end
of
this
amendment.
I
have
concerns
about
the
insular.
K
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'm
sure
there's
some
folks
who'd
be
happy
to
have
that
conversation
with
you
to
give
you
some
of
the
history
and
the
reason
why
we're
moving
in
that
direction.
So
comments
made
so
with
that
motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
in
opposition
hearing
no
opposition
passes
unanimously
of
the
members
present.
We
do.
Thank
you,
mr
powers,
very
much
for
being
here
with
us
this
evening.
We
appreciate
you.
It's
been
a
long
time
since
we
served
in
commerce
and
labor
together.
A
So
thanks
so
with
that
we'll
go
to
public
comment,
is
there
any
public
comment
in
the
room?
Seeing
none
is
there
any
public
comment
on
the
phone
line,
broadcast
services.