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A
All
right
good
morning,
everyone
welcome
to
the
joint
media
assembly,
ways
and
means,
and
senate
finance.
It
is
a
beautiful,
sunny
friday.
We
are
happy
to
be
here
to
get
this
work
done.
So
with
that.
Madam
secretary,
if
you
could
please
call
the
role
senator
brooks
here,
senator
cannizzaro
here
senator
dennis
here
senator
dondero
loop
here
senator
gokuchiya.
B
A
C
C
A
A
And
I
am
here,
thank
you
very
much.
We
can
go
ahead
and
proceed.
Our
first
budget
today
is
101
1005,
the
governor's
office
of
high
level
nuclear
waste.
If
I
could
go
ahead
and
have
the
appropriate
person
queued
up,
please
if
you
just
give
us
a
overview
and
then
we
do
have
some
questions.
Welcome
to
the
committee.
B
Good
morning
for
the
record,
I'm
fred
dilger
executive
director
of
the
agency
for
nuclear
projects.
The
agency
is
part
of
the
governor's
office.
We
also
provide
staff
support
to
the
seven-member
nevada
commission
on
nuclear
projects
before
we
discuss
the
agency
budget
request,
I'd
like
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
yucca
mountain
licensing,
proceeding
before
the
u.s
nuclear
regulatory
commission,
the
nrc.
B
B
A
B
It's
not
giving
me
the
share
option
here,
I'm
clicking
on
the
share
screen.
It
gives
it's
highlighting
the
screen.
I
want
to
appear.
B
B
B
Okay,
we've
done
that
before
okay,
so
what
exists
today,
yucca
mountain
is
only
a
five
mile
exploratory
tunnel
that
cannot
be
used
for
waste
storage
or
disposal.
Congress
has
not
appropriated
any
funds
to
the
us
department
of
energy.
The
doe
for
yucca
mount
project
since
2011
and
doe
would
face
many
obstacles.
Should
it
begin
a
restart
in
2008,
the
doe
submitted
the
yucca
mountain
license
application
and
the
final
supplemental
environmental
impact
statement
for
the
nrc.
B
This
slide
summarizes
dui's,
proposed
action,
disposing,
70,
000,
metric
tons
of
high-level
nuclear
waste,
as
required
by
statute
and
dewey's
plan
to
expand
capacity
to
150
000
metric
tons
over
the
first
50
years.
There
will
be
between
5
000
and
12
000
waste
shipments
over
100
years
up
to
26
000
waste
packages
would
be
moved
into
underground
tunnels
called
drifts.
B
B
The
nrc
licensing
proceeding
has
been
suspended
for
lack
of
funds
in
2011.
It
was
restarted
in
2013
by
a
court
order
that
directed
nrc
to
spend
all
of
their
remaining
funds.
Even
if
there
isn't
enough
money
to
complete
licensing.
Nrc
currently
has
insufficient
funds
for
the
next
phase,
which
are
trial-like
hearings.
That's
what
we're
getting
ready
for
the
biden.
Administration
opposes
the
yucca
mountain
project.
The
opposition
was
reaffirmed
by
secretary
of
energy
grand
home
in
her
confirmation
hearing.
B
B
The
basic
problem
is
that
yucca
mountain
is
an
unsuitable
site
for
a
geological
repository
because
of
its
geology
and
hydrology,
fractured
rock
above
and
below
the
repository
horizon
will
allow
highly
corrosive
oxidizing
groundwater
to
transport
radioactive
material
from
the
waste
packages
into
the
water
table
that
flows
into
amargosa
valley.
The
yucca
mountain
design
relies
on
engineered
barriers,
not
the
rock,
so
we're
burying
it
in
a
mountain,
but
we
need
barriers
over
the
over
the
waste
packages
to
prevent
them
from
failing.
B
B
Installation
would
be
need
to
be
done
robotically
because
of
the
intense
radiation,
the
packaged
surface
dose
rates
of
over
ten
thousand
or
over
a
thousand
ram
an
hour
and
high
temperatures
120
to
140
degrees
fahrenheit
in
the
drifts
the
cost
would
be
9
billion
to
22
billion
dollars
in
current
year
dollars,
and
so
it
raised
the
question.
Will
future
congresses
decide
to
be
willing
to
fund
that
new
questions
have
emerged
recently
over
groundwater
impacts?
B
We've
prepared
30
new
contentions,
challenging
the
nrc
staff
reports
on
repository
safety
and
groundwater
impacts
that
were
published
in
2015
in
2016..
We
focused
on
groundwater
contamination
in
amargosa
valley,
including
flow
paths
that
could
affect
death
valley.
The
timber
shoshone
reservation,
lands
and
natural
hot
springs
important
to
the
shoshone
and
tim
and
people
at
the
direction
of
the
governor
and
prompted
by
the
20
2019
ridge
quest
earthquake.
We've
begun
a
project
with
university
of
nevada
reno
to
examine
the
seismicity
in
the
region.
B
The
key
issue
in
the
licensing
proceeding
is
whether
or
not
the
repository
can
prevent
radioactive
contamination
of
groundwater.
For
one
million
years,
the
epa
environmental
protection
agency
adopted
a
two-part
radiation
protection
standard
for
yucca
mountain
that
allows
a
600
percent
increase
in
doses
from
groundwater
contamination.
After
10
000
years,
nrc
staff
calculated
that
even
if
the
drip
shields
were
to
be
installed
and
worked
perfectly,
some
off-site
contamination
resulting
in
increased
individual
radiological
doses
would
occur
in
amargosa
valley.
During
the
compliance
period.
B
Nevada's
calculations
show
that
without
drip
shields,
the
10
000
year
standard
15
milligram
a
year
could
be
exceeded
in
less
than
900
years,
and
the
million-year
standard
100
milligrams
per
year
could
be
exceeded.
In
2000
years,
the
two-part
epa
radiation
standard
rejected
the
guidance
of
the
national
academy
of
sciences
contradicting
the
statute.
That
requires
the
standard
be
based
on
these
recommendations,
so
we're
challenging
that
also
in
court.
B
B
B
B
Up
to
85
of
the
shipments
of
yucca
mountain
could
directly
affect
las
vegas
two
truck
shipments
every
week
using
the
beltway
and
one
dedicated
train
shipment
every
month
through
downtown
for
50
years.
If
doey
changes
roots
to
avoid
chicago,
which
is
likely,
the
number
of
nuclear
waste
trains
through
las
vegas
could
go
up
to
100
per
year.
More
than
10
percent
of
buck
county
residents
live
within
the
pink
shaded
area
shown
in
this
slide
one
half
mile
on
each
side
of
these
shipping
routes.
This
is
what
the
doe
correctly
calls.
B
B
I
want
to
highlight
one
last
issue
that
this
agency
has
become
involved
with
and
that's
plutonium
in
june
nevada
sued,
the
department
of
energy
on
november
30th
2018
to
request
a
preliminary
injunction
to
shop,
stop
shipments
of
plutonium
to
the
nevada
national
security
site
unknown
to
nevada.
Doe
used
this
good
faith
discussion
to
begin
trucking
plutonium
to
the
nevada
national
security
site.
B
A
A
Thank
you,
chair,
carlton,
and
thank
you
director,
dodger
for
coming
here
this
morning
and
updating
us
on
this
issue.
My
main
questions
are
around
the
budget
because
you
did
a
great
job
of
talking
about
what
we
currently
have
going
on
and
what
you've
been
doing.
Have
the
budget
reductions
that
we
approved
in
the
last
session.
A
B
Our
our
legal
team
and
contractors
have
taken
a
voluntary
reduction,
and
so,
as
a
result
of
their
willingness
to
work
with
us,
it
has
not
has
not
had
a
material
effect
on
our
on
our
work.
A
That
and
you
know
we're
in
a
good
place
right
now,
but
we've
said
that
several
times
over
the
last
40
years
or
30
40
years
have,
if
the
federal
government
were
to
accelerate
its
its
agenda
and
would
you
could
you
anticipate
having
to
need
more
resources?
And
this
next.
B
If
we
see
an
opening
to
achieve
a
dismissal
of
the
yucca
mountain
license,
which
is
also
something
that
that
we
have
considered
carefully,
then
we
we
might
need
more
resources,
but
it'll
be
far
far
less
than
if
the
proceeding
were
to
were
to
go
forward.
A
There
we
are
so
with
that.
I
believe
I
have
a
question
from
mr
haven.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
but
I
I
have
three
three
questions.
If
you'll
indulge
me,
because
this
is
in
my
backyard,
and
so
I
do
have
some
concerns
and
some
questions
on
it,
the
first
question
just
directly
related
to
the
the
budget
in
regards
to.
If
the
feds
are
to
move
forward
with
the
studying
and
the
processing
of
the
licensing,
would
the
state
see
substantial.
B
Funds
from
that
the
way
it
has
worked
in
the
past
should
licensing
occur.
We
will
receive
money,
some
money
to
offset
the
costs
of
some
of
the
litigation.
Some
of
the
counties
and
other
parties
of
the
of
the
to
the
lawsuit
may
also
receive
some
small
funds.
It
will
not
offset
the
total
cost,
but
it
will
offset
some
of
the
costs
this
money
or
statement.
B
B
A
They
would
be
subject
to
pilt
correct,
yes,
okay,
so
there
would
be
some
benefit
there
and
then
the
other
question
had
regards
in
regards
to
the
transportation.
A
It
is
my
understanding
that
I
believe
in
your
presentation.
You
said
85
percent
of
it
was
going
to
be
transferred
transported
through
las
vegas.
A
Yes,
everything
that
I've
seen
and
the
proposals
that
have
come
out
of
at
least
through
knight
county
is
that
somewhere
between
90
and
100
percent
was
going
to
bypass
las
vegas,
with
the
construction
of
a
railroad
from
prim
to
the
site.
Has
that
changed
in
the
last.
B
B
I
know
that
the
nye
county
people
advocated
for
a
a
route
connecting
hawthorne
to
prim,
but
that's
not
something.
The
ue
opted
to
do.
A
B
Well,
it
depends
because
a
lot
of
the
because
of
the
way
the
railroads
work-
it's
it's
not
that
cut
and
dry,
because
if
the,
if
the,
if
the
waste
avoids
the
proviso
rail
yard
in
chicago,
which
is,
we
think,
is
very
likely,
then
it
will
go
to
one
of
the
union
pacific's
critical
hubs
in
the
center
of
the
country-
and
this
is
something
that
the
railroads
are
very
loath
to
do.
B
B
They
will
be
able
to
move
it
under
under
their
conditions
because
of
the
way
railroads
operate.
So
it's
entirely
possible
that
the
union
pacific
would
move
that
waste
to
go
south,
avoiding
some
of
their
critical
infrastructure
like
the
red
x
in
the
stretch
of
railroad
in
nebraska,
and
that
would
bring
it
from
the
south
up
to
through
las
vegas
to
galliano.
A
Thank
you
for
that
and
then
mentor.
A
I
just
have
one
last
question
and
I
greatly
appreciate
the
time
this
this
morning,
director,
I'm
sure
you're,
aware
of
how
nuclear
waste
is
currently
being
disposed
of,
on
the
test
site
adjacent
to
yucca
mountain
and
for
the
members
that
don't
know
basically
what's
currently
occurring
is
there
are
shallow
trenches
that
are
being
dug
and
the
nuclear
waste
is
being
put
in
barrels
and
containers
and
buried,
and
this
is
occurring
test
site,
mr
hafen
you're
getting
away
from
a
question
this
isn't
about
statements
so,
but
I'm
just
leading
into
my
question
madam
chair.
A
Are
you
guys
also
monitoring,
what's
currently
potentially
leaving
the
test
site
and
in
comparison
to
what
the
projections
from
the
yucca
mountain
site
would
be.
B
We
don't
have
a
program
to
we
watch
carefully
what
happens
at
the
nnss
all
the
time
and
are
part
of
the
nss
nnss
stakeholder
low-level
waste
transportation,
stakeholder
forum
and
we
participate
in
that
all
the
time.
We
do
not
have
a
drilling
program
to
watch.
What
is
go
at
the
to
monitor
what
happens
there,
however,
in-depth
and
the
the
their
department
of
federal
facilities
watches
those
folks
very
carefully.
B
It's
important
to
point
out
that
the
low-level
defense
waste
stored
at
the
nnss
has
a
totally
different
is
a
completely
different
radiological
hazard.
From
what
we're
talking
about
with
spent
nuclear
fuel,
the
the
hazard
is
just
ten
thousand
times
different
orders
of
magnitude
more
hazardous
spent
fuel.
The
low-level
waste
is
something
that
is
I'm
not
going
to
say
it's
not
hazardous,
and
I'm
not
you
know
it
is.
B
It
is
definitely
hazard
and
it
needs
to
be
controlled
carefully,
but
it's
also
defense
waste,
and
so
we
have
no
angle
to
prevent
its
disposal
there.
We
are,
however,
pushing
for
a
an
update
to
the
2013
site-wide
programmatic
eis,
for
the
nnss.
We
think
it's
time
for
them
to
update
that
and
tell
us.
What's
going
on
out
there,
but
at
the
same
time
and
what
their
plans
are,
but
at
the
same
time
we
do
watch
them
very,
very
carefully.
A
I
appreciate
that
director
and
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
indulging
me
with
the
questions.
I
know
I
had
a
number
of
them,
so
thank
you.
Thank
you
and
I'm
sure
mr
gilder
will
make
himself
available
for
any
other
follow-up.
Anytime
need
and
staff
is
always
available.
Also,
so
with
that
I
have
senator
kitkapper
next.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
mr
dilliger
and
you're
groundwater
contamination
model.
It
indicated
significant
risk
into
out
of
the
state
of
nevada
and
into
california.
B
I'm
curious
about
any
discussions
that
the
state
has
had
with
the
state
of
california
we're
partnering
in
this
fight.
How
much
financial
contribution
was
made
by
california
and
fighting
this
licensing,
and
we
focus
a
lot
on
your
budget,
but
you
know
they
seem
to
be
sharing
the
potential
risk
for
some
of
this.
B
They
have
not
participated,
however,
inyo
county
california,
which
is
one
of
the
affected
units
of
local
government
when
they
were
receiving
funding,
they
did
extensive
groundwater
work
very
extensive
groundwater
work
and
we
have
the
benefit
of
all
of
them
and
that
has
all
been
incorporated
into
our
own
thinking.
But
what
it's
worth?
The
studies
that
were
done,
that
I
cited
were
done
by
the
nuclear
regulatory
commission
on
behalf
of
the
department
of
energy.
The
department
of
energy
was
supposed
to
do
the
study
and
did
not,
and
so
the
nuclear
regulatory
commission
completed.
A
A
A
B
A
He's
missed,
he
is
desperately
missed.
So
thank
you
very
much
all
right.
So
committee
members.
Our
next
item
is
10
30
a.g
administrative
budget
account
if
we
could
go
ahead
and
queue
up
the
appropriate
person.
I
have
a
lot
of
ag
folks
listed
on
my
list,
so
let's
just
bring
them
all
in
and
we'll
get
going.
A
Good
morning,
madam
chair,
it's
attorney
general
aaron,
ford,
hoping
that
everyone
could
hear
me.
Okay.
I
am
here
with
two
of
my
bosses,
jessica,
adair,
my
chief
of
staff
and
jessica
holden,
my
chief
financial
officer.
We
are
separated
appropriately.
We
have
our
masks
on
as
I
speak,
I'm
going
to
take
mine
off,
however,
and
we
will
alternate
back
and
forth
again
good
morning,
everybody,
I'm
aaron
ford,
I'm
your
attorney
general.
I'm
pleased
today
to
be
here
to
present
our
budget
to
the
joint
committee.
A
We
have
a
pr
slide
presentation
that
we
will
begin
with
if
that's
okay
and
proceed
accordingly
right.
Thank
you
very
much
is
this,
for
all
is
a
slide
presentation
for
all
of
the
budgets,
because
if
it
is
we'll
stop
you
intermittently
to
ask
questions
on
different
accounts.
A
C
In
between
with
questions,
as
you
see
people
all
right,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
We
did
build
in
time
for
questions
after
each
of
the
budgets
that
were
pulled
to
be
heard
today,.
A
Okay,
good
planning.
Thank
you
very
much.
Let's
proceed.
Thank
you
at
the
outset.
Let
me
say
again:
I
am
here
as
the
attorney
general,
but
my
two
bosses
will
be
speaking
to
you
predominantly
around
our
a
budget.
I
would
like
to,
however,
introduce
you
to
the
office
relative
to
what
our
priorities
are
relative
to
fostering
culture
in
support
of
what
we
call
our
five
c's
and
the
budget
that
you
will
be
presented
today
absolutely
supports
and
allows
us
to
engage
in
a
practice
that
involves
the
five
seats.
A
The
five
seats
that
guide
our
office
are
the
protection
of
constitutional
and
civil
rights,
criminal
justice
and
criminal
justice
reform
issues,
consumer
protection,
client
service,
which
includes
constituent
services,
and
then
community
engagement
and
community
service,
reminding
those
in
the
community
that
we
do
more
than
just
put
people
in
jail.
A
A
lot
of
people
don't
know
what
the
transgender
office
does
we'd
like
to
remind
them
that
we're
your
neighbors
that
we
shop
at
the
smiths
you
shop
at
that
we
are
the
the
soccer
moms
and
dads
as
you
are,
and
so
we
engage
in
these
days
virtual
community
service
opportunities
and
just
wanted
to
present
that
to
you
as
the
areas
that
we
try
to
focus
on
through.
A
Ultimately,
our
hashtag,
which
is
our
job,
is
justice,
and
so
these
budget
items
that
you
will
be
receiving
today
help
us
to
to
perform
these
in
a
way
that
we
think
is
appropriate
for
the
citizenry
and
the
residents
of
our
state
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
tend
to
the
microphone
to
jessica
holden,
who
is
our
chief
financial
officer
and
madam
chair?
A
If,
if
I
may
be
excused,
unless
you
need
me
at
the
end
or
intermittently,
I'm
in
the
middle
of
a
settlement
conference
right
now,
actually
trying
to
do
some
work
for
the
state
and
so
to
the
extent
I'm
needed.
I'm
happy
to
come
right
back
in
and
answer
questions.
But
with
your
permission
I
will
excuse
myself.
A
C
C
C
The
first
one
is
enhancement,
227,
it's
reclassification
of
an
administrative
services
officer
during
the
2019
80th
legislative
session,
there
was
one
decision
unit
which
eliminated
a
budget
analyst
three
and
a
conjunction
with
that
position,
elimination
as
a
cost
savings.
We
also
requested
a
reclassification
of
the
administrative
services
to
officer
to
be
an
administrative
services
officer.
C
Three,
the
intent
of
that
reclassification
was
to
cover
some
of
the
responsibilities
and
duties
that
would
be
left
lacking
from
the
position
that
was
being
eliminated
as
a
result
of
the
pandemic
and
the
current
financial
emergency
that
we
entered
into
during
fiscal
year.
2020
in
fiscal
year
2021,
we
agreed
to
postpone
the
reclassification
as
a
cost-saving
measure
so
that
we
could
help
fill
some
of
the
financial
shortfalls
of
the
current
biennium.
C
C
The
next
decision
unit,
it's
related
to
cost-saving
measures
to
help
continue
to
fill
some
of
the
fiscal
shortfalls
in
the
next
biennium,
and
that
is
to
relinquish
one
of
the
current
monthly
vehicle
leases
that
we
have
in
this
budget.
That
would
result
in
a
cost
savings
of
3259
in
each
year
of
the
next.
C
Biennium
our
third
decision
unit
e-771,
is
a
request
to
replace
some
of
the
ballistic
vests
that
are
assigned
to
our
investigators
who
reside
the
positions
reside
in
this
budget
account.
C
The
governor's
recommended
budget
supports
replacing
four
ballistic
vests
in
each
year
of
the
next
biennium,
with
a
total
cost
of
3786
dollars
each
year.
So
the
the
total
biennium
would
include
four
ballistic
vests
being
purchased.
C
A
Thank
you
very
much,
that's
a
good
break.
So
with
that
miss
harigi,
I
believe
you
had
a
question
on
this.
I
did
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
reclassification
of
the
administrative
services
officer.
C
So
jessica
opened
for
the
record.
No,
they
have
not
the
pers.
The
incumbent
in
the
position
right
now
has
not
assumed
those
responsibilities.
C
C
The
impacts
of
the
pandemic
came
about
so
because
of
the
timing
of
that,
along
with
the
fiscal
emergency
we,
when
we
did
identify
that
we
could
delay
the
reclassification
of
this
position,
we
were
able
to
kind
of
match
the
responsibilities
that
the
current
incumbent
is
doing
with
their
current
position
title
and
we
did
not
add
those
additional
duties,
especially
when
we
knew
that
postponement
would
mean
that
we
would
be
asking
them
directly
to
work
out
of
class,
and
we
didn't
want
that
to
happen.
So
we
postponed
the
assignment
of
those
duties.
C
Okay,
thank
you
so
then
who's.
I
know
the
the
reclassification
was
due
to.
A
We
were
eliminating
a
position.
We
were
going
to
reclassify
this
employee,
who
was
then
going
to
assume
the
duties
of
that
eliminated
position.
C
C
I
have
to
complete
those
responsibilities.
A
Okay
and
then
so,
the
reclassification
then
would
help
and
alleviate
some
of
those
responsibilities
from
your
plate.
C
The
limit
with
the
elimination
and
the
reclassification
there
would
still
be
a
cost
savings
for
the
record
jessica
hogan
from
a
broad
perspective.
Yes,
there
is
still
a
cost
savings
because
we
have
already
eliminated
the
budget
analyst
three
positions,
so
we're
already
recognizing
those
cost
savings.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
That's
that
wraps
me
up.
A
C
The
insurance
fraud
had
approval
the
most
recent
change
for
the
current
biennium
was
the
approval
of
senate
bill
86
during
the
80th
legislative
session
in
2019,
and
one
of
our
enhancements
that
we're
requesting
our
primary
enhancement
is
related
to
additional
staff
in
response
to
the
authorization
of
additional
funds
which
came
through
the
approval
of
senate
bill
86
last
session.
C
We
also
have
a
training
and
registration
enhancement
request
and
what
you
will
not
see
in
this
presentation,
primarily
because
it's
due
to
standard
computer
equipment
replacement,
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention
as
well.
I
think
we've
asked
for
about
four
computers,
so
our
first
enhancement
is
e225.
C
C
C
During
the
agency
request
budget,
we
had
identified
these
costs
being
incurred
in
fiscal
year,
20,
which
is
our
base
year,
and
so
we
had
asked
for
ongoing
costs.
C
C
Our
next
decision
unit
is
the
addition
of
seven
new
positions
to
support
the
insurance
fraud
unit
and
their
activities,
we're
asking
for
three
a.g
criminal
investigators,
two
legal
secretaries
and
two
senior
deputy
attorneys
general
year.
One.
The
request
for
these
positions
is
to
begin
in
october,
so
the
cost
of
the
total
costs,
including
associated
operating
costs
for
these
seven
positions,
is
calculated
to
be
657
thousand
fifty
three
dollars
and
in
year,
two
eight
hundred
twenty
five
thousand
one
hundred
fifty
one
dollars.
A
Alrighty,
thank
you
and
if
you
could
speak
up
just
a
little
bit,
we
can
pretty
much
hear
you,
but
it
would
be
better
if
it's
just
a
touch.
Louder.
We'd
appreciate
that.
Okay,
I
have
assemblywoman
tolls
first,
please
thank
you
so
much
madam
chair
and
thanks
for
the
overview,
I'm
curious
what
our
backlog
is
right
now
and
what
the
timeline
is
expected
for.
Addressing
that
backlog.
C
C
So,
thank
you,
assemblywoman
tools.
We
provided
some
detailed
statistics
to
lcb
prior
to
this
hearing
on
the
caseload
data.
C
Specifically,
there
are
a
little
over
400
open
cases
in
the
insurance
fraud
unit
really
with
the
problem
that
we
are
seeing
now
in
that
unit
is
that
by
statute
insurance
companies
have
to
report
any
suspected
fraud
to
our
office
right
now,
due
to
the
limited
number
of
staff
that
we
have
working
on
insurance
fraud
and
the
sheer
number
of
fraud,
complaints
or
reports
that
we're
getting
from
industry,
we're
only
able
to
investigate
and
prosecute
about
two
percent
of
those
cases
and
that's
not
acceptable
and
realizing
that
the
department
of
industry
and
the
division
of
insurance
sponsored
sb
86
last
session
in
order
to
rectify
that
they
doubled
the
assessments
on
the
on
the
insurance
industry,
and
that
is
the
funding
that
would
be
used
to
fund
these
particular
positions.
C
So
it's
not
taxpayer
dollars
assessments
from
the
insurance
industry
in
order
to
better
get
at
that
backlog.
As
to
your
the
second
part
of
your
question
on
workers
compensation,
I
don't
have
statistics
in
front
of
me
right
now.
I'm
happy
to
provide
those
to
you
at
the
conclusion
of
the
hearing.
I
will
say:
anecdotally:
we've
had
some
hiccups
with
the
not
hiccups,
I
guess
sad
situations
in
investigating
workers,
compensation
fraud
when
our
investigators
go
to
investigate
a
case
and
they
call
the
employer
and
that
employer
is
no
longer
in
business.
C
We
have
seen
the
effects
of
small
businesses
closing
due
to
the
pandemic
and
the
economic
recession
trickle
all
the
way
down
to
workers,
compensation
fraud
and
affecting
our
investigations.
But
I'm
happy
to
give
you
more
detailed
specifics
on
detailed
statistics
on
the
referrals
that
we've
received.
A
Thank
you.
I
I
appreciate
that
and
definitely
those
ripple
effects
the
impacts
are
seen
everywhere.
I
wouldn't
have
expected
that,
but
that
makes
sense.
Madam
chair,
can
I
ask
a
few
follow-up
questions
just
to
get
it
clarified
on
the
record.
That
would
be
fine.
A
I
do
have
other
people
in
the
queue
also,
so
please
go
ahead
and
ask
another
one:
okay,
just
wondering
you're
planning
on
bringing
along
these
new
positions
in
october
first-
and
I
know
that
there's
probably
a
anticipated
training
period-
that's
needed
to
get
them
ready
to
take
on
those
responsibilities.
Could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
if
there's
any
discussion,
particularly
when
you
have
such
a
backlog
of
400,
open
cases
and
only
2
percent
being
investigated?
A
Currently
have
you
talked
about,
maybe
bringing
on
at
least
one
or
two
of
those
positions,
a
little
bit
earlier
say
in
july
instead
of
waiting
until
october,
and
could
they
be
trained
and
brought
on
board
sooner.
C
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
We
would
love
to
have
the
opportunity
to
bring
them
on
board
sooner.
We
used
october
1
as
the
standard
date
that
new
positions
are
allowed
to
start
in
a
fiscal
year
after
being
created
during
a
legislative
session.
Should
this
legislature
choose
to
allow
us
to
do
that
earlier?
We
would
love
to
do
that.
We've
already.
C
We
have
had
those
exact
conversations
internally
with
our
staff,
who
are
ready
to
bring
on
additional
resources,
and
we've
talked
about
posting
those
positions
prior
to
october,
one
so
that
we
can
interview
and
do
background
checks
specifically
when
it
comes
to
those
post-certified
peace
officers.
The
background
check
is
extensive.
It
does
take
quite
some
time,
so
we
can
have
them
ready
to
go
and
end
their
pcn
by
october
1..
But
again,
if
the
legislature
chooses
to
allow
us
to
take
those
positions
earlier,
we
would
happily
accept.
A
A
Chair
and
just
a
follow-up
from
assemblyman
toll's
questions
regarding.
B
The
backlog
of
insurance
fraud
cases
and
you
had
mentioned
that
two
percent
of
the
400
had
been.
A
Had
been
investigated,
if
you
could
how
many
people
are
in
the
unit
currently,
I
may
have
missed
it.
I
apologize.
C
No,
you
you,
I
thank
you
or
something
assembly,
then
jessica.
Dare
for
the
record,
you
didn't
miss
it
right
now.
I
believe
we
have
three
investigators,
two
legal
secretaries
and
2.5
decks.
So
we
have
one
attorney
who
splits
his
time
between
workers,
compensation,
fraud
and
insurance
fraud,
and
I
I
would
also
say
it's
it's
not
so
much
well,
it
is.
It
is
the
quantity
we
do
have
quite
a
an
extensive
number
of
referrals.
C
They
involve
multiple
players
but
they're
also
very
dangerous
for
both
the
people
who
are
involved
in
setting
up
these
fake
car
accidents,
but
individual
bystanders
who
might
just
be
driving
down
the
street
at
the
same
time
as
one
of
these
stage
accidents
and
gets
hurt.
So
that's
the
an
additional
complication
on
top
of
the
backlog.
It's
just
the
level
of
complexity
of
this
particular
type
of
thought.
A
Pay
right
for
insurance
fraud.
You
know
if
we're
insuring
our
cars,
how
many
prosecutions
have
you
done.
C
So
for
the
record
jessica,
hoeven,
chief
financial
officer
with
the
attorney
general's
office,
I
do
want
to
clarify
about
some
of
the
cases.
The
400
cases
that
we
are
saying
are
open
are
ones
that
are
at
various
levels
and
phases
of
prosecution.
C
The
four
the
two
percent
rate
that
comes
into
play
is
when
we
look
at
the
number
of
total
referrals
and
recommendations
or
complaints
that
we
receive
in
a
given
time
frame.
Only
two
percent
of
all
of
the
recommendations
we
get
are
the
ones
that
actually
end
up
in
prosecution.
C
I
simply
assemblyman
roberts
jessica
derrick
for
the
record.
I
can
get
you
specific
numbers
of
prosecutions
we
actually
submit.
We
do
a
an
annual
report
number
of
prosecutions.
We
put
that
on
our
website.
I
can
get
that
to
you.
We
also
list
the
the
cost
awarded
to
the
state
and
I
want
to
correct
my
statement
earlier.
We
have
five
investigators
currently
in
insurance
fraud,
not
three.
I
was
incorrect,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
that.
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
roberts,
so
I
guess
I
need
to
clarify
the
actual
backlog.
I'm
hearing
different
numbers
cases
in
process,
2
2
of
what
comes
to
you,
actually
moves
forward.
C
For
the
record
jessica
hoeven,
we
do
have
this
information.
We
just
have
to
find
it
in
our
documents.
If
you
would
like
to
give
us
just
a
moment,
I
believe
we
had
touched
a
document
entitled
insurance
fraud,
combined
stats
with
k-slope
data
from
fy
2017
through
fy
2020,
and
I
apologize
that
I
cannot
find
it
in
many
papers
in
front.
A
A
You
can
even
go
after
other
insurance
companies
that
try
to
defraud
the
other
insurance
company,
but
yet
there
are
probably
cases
where
it's
just
a
a
small
single
accident
off
to
the
side
or
someone
mistakenly
gets
a
check
doesn't
realize
we
there's
a
lot
of
components
to
this.
So
how
do
you
prioritize
the
cases
that
these
folks
will
be
working
on.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
jessica.
Dare
for
the
record
right
now
we
are
currently
our
director
of
this
unit
currently
uses
a
few
different
factors
to
prioritize
those
decisions.
One
is
recidivism.
Are
we
seeing
the
same
person
over
and
over
again?
So
that's
an
important
factor.
Another
factor
is
the
complexity
of
the
fraud.
C
Frankly,
you
know:
do
we
have
the
resources
to
investigate
and
prosecute
this
particular
case,
and
another
factor
is
the
end.
That's
probably
one
of
the
most
important
factors
is
the
amount
of
victim
loss,
and
I
think
that's
exactly
what
you
were
getting
to
in
your
question
is:
has
the
loss
suffered
by
a
victim
significantly
impacted
their
ability
to
go
about
their
daily
life?
A
C
Are
helped?
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
We
do
like
I
said
we
present
as
a
part
of
sb
86.
We
were
required
to
produce
that
report
on
an
annual
basis.
I'm
happy
to
get
get
you
the
most
recent
report
and
then
I
think
we
compiled
all
those
reports
and
put
it
in
a
document
or
lcd
today,
and
I
I
apologize
that
I
just
can't
find
it
in
my
folder
but
I'll
make
sure
that
the
committee
has
has
that
report
with
you.
A
C
1038
for
the
record
jessica,
hogan
chief
financial
officer
with
the
office
of
the
attorney
general,
the
next
budget
is
1038,
which
is
our
consumer
advocate
account
in
this
budget
account.
We
have
three
primary
initiatives
that
we
are
asking
that
encompass
six
enhancement
or
decision
unit
requests,
additional
settlement
funds
to
fund
three
staff
that
are
in
this
budget.
A
transfer
of
two
staff
from
budget
account
1045
into
budget
account,
1038
and
equipment
replacement.
C
The
first
initiative
is
a
request
to
use
current
settlement
funds
that
are
available
to
replace
morgan
stanley
settlements
that
will
be
fully
depleted.
We
anticipate
in
the
current
state
fiscal
year
2021
that
the
morgan
stanley
settlement
funds
will
be
fully
expended,
so
the
two
decision
units
that
you're
looking
at
e490
demonstrates
the
depletion
of
the
morgan
stanley
funds,
which
have
been
funding
these
positions
for
the
past
several
years
and
decision
unit.
E225
is
the
request
to
replace
those
expiring
funds
with
current
settlement
funds.
C
It's
if
there
is
no
additional
cost
to
this
budget.
For
this
request,
it's
simply
a
request
for
a
change
in
funding
source
and
the
amounts
are
412
265
dollars
in
year,
one
four
hundred
fifteen
thousand
five
hundred
fourteen
dollars
in
year.
Two,
the
next
initiative
is
related
to
transferring
two
positions
which
currently
reside
in
our
national
settlement
fund
budget
account
10
45.
C
It
is
for
one
deputy
attorney
general
position
and
one
legal
researcher
and
transfer
them
into
budget
account.
1038
then
our
decision
unit
e500
takes
is
requesting
a
replacement
to
also
use
current
settlement
funds
to
fund
those
two
positions.
Once
they
were
to
transfer,
if
approved,
into
budget
account
1038,
the
total
cost
would
be
278
464
dollars
in
year.
One
and
year
two
would
be
two
hundred
eighty
thousand
thirteen
dollars
again
agency
wide.
C
There
isn't
a
difference
in
impact,
it's
simply
realigning
for
organizational
function
and
responsibilities
and
the
funding
source
to
cover
those
positions
and
their
operating
costs.
C
C
A
A
Yes,
if
you
could
just
explain
briefly
what
the
actual
responsibilities
of
the
legal
researcher
and
the
two
post
senior
deputy
attorney
generals
would
be,
and
also
after
you
explain
the
role
if
you
could
give
us
an
idea
of
what
the
impact
would
be
if
these
new
positions,
weren't
funded.
C
Thank
you
so
much
jessica
for
the
record,
so
these
attorneys
and
legal
researcher
currently
are
working
in
honor
mortgage
fraud,
as
well
as
other
financial
fraud
issues
and
consumer
protection
issues.
They
are
also
our
response
to
many
of
the
multi-state
investigations
and
settlements
that
relate
to
consumer
protection.
So
that's
what
they're
currently
doing
in
1045,
that's
exactly
what
the
folks
in
1038
are
doing
as
well.
It's
both
of
those
budgets
are
dedicated
to
consumer
protection.
C
So,
in
terms
of
the
second
part
of
your
question,
what
would
be
the
loss?
The
loss
frankly
to
our
state
would
be
huge.
As
this
committee
knows,
this
state
recoups
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
in
somewhat
funding
due
to
our
multi-state
investigations
and
settlements
with
corporations
that
defraud
nevadans,
and
not
not
just
that.
But
many
of
these
supplements
also
bring
restitution
and
additional
protective
actions
for
citizens
of
nevada
who
have
been
defrauded
so
the
loss.
C
If
we
don't
have
the
attorneys
and
folks
that
we
have
currently
working
on
those
doing
that
type
of
activity
in
the
future,
the
lost
and
just
dollar
amount
would
be
huge,
but
I
think,
more
importantly,
the
loss
in
troops
of
our
ability
to
continue
to
fight
for
nevada's
consumers
on
all
sorts
of
consumer
protection
issues
for
financial
fraud,
mortgage
fraud,
data
breaches
and
identity
theft.
All
of
those
issues
that
are
so
important
to
nevadans,
which
would
be
significantly
impacted,
so
I
I
don't
think
it
can
underscore
the
laws
enough.
A
Thank
you
for
your
response.
Mr.
Dare
follow-up!
Chair.
Yes,
go
ahead,
ms
miller,
one
one
additional
question
for
you:
given
the
replacement
settlement
funds,
it
seems
that
they're
only
that
they
would
only
be
sufficient
for
through
the
end
of
this
biennium.
So
does
the
agency
have
a
plan
in
without
those
funds
to
continue
sustaining
these
new
positions
after
that
biennium
or
this
biennium.
C
Thank
you,
woman,
jessica
jared
for
the
record.
I
yes
and
yes,
yes,
those
settlement
funds
are
just
for
this
biennium
and,
and
frankly,
that's
been
a
practice
for
this
particular
budget
for
nearly
a
decade.
So
that
is
not
something
new
to
this
agency,
but
we
recognize
it's
a
problem.
We
don't
have.
We
don't
have
the
ability
to
sufficiently
foresee
those
settlement
dollars.
C
A
Thank
you,
miss
miller,
so
without
committee
members
does
anyone
else
have
any
other
questions
on
this
particular
item.
A
Not
seeing
anyone,
no
one
wishing
to
re
recognize
all
right.
I
think
we
can
move
on
to
1043
the
forfeiture
account
and,
and
whoever
is
presenting.
Would
you
please
keep
in
mind
that
we
have
a
number
of
new
people
on
the
committee
and
this
one
can
be
kind
of
complicated,
so
there
we
go
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
how
it
works.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
C
Okay,
so
jessica
hogan
for
the
record
budget
account
1043
is
our
ford
future
account
and
based
on
chair
carlton's
request.
I
will
give
a
brief
overview
of
how
this
account
operates,
primarily
because
our
presentation
and
slideshow
on
this
is
very
short.
C
C
If
all
five
agencies
participated
equally
in
their
time
and
effort,
essentially
20
of
the
recovered
forfeiture,
funds
would
then
be
distributed
20
to
each
participant,
and
that
is
how
this
budget
account
receives.
Its
funds.
We
participate
in
higher
level
federal
level
cases
and
funding
that
is,
recouped
is
distributed
amongst
all
of
the
participants
based
on
their
contribution,
and
so
they
are.
This
is
not
a
set
or
standard
source
of
funding
on
a
regular
time
frame,
nor
is
it
associated
with
specific
dollar
amounts.
As
far
as
projections
or
ongoing
funding
is
concerned,.
C
Okay,
all
right
so
with
that
we
have
one
decision
unit,
and
this
decision
unit
was
added
primarily
as
a
balancing
function
for
this
budget.
C
C
A
So
with
this
projected
shortfall
for
fy,
2021
and
then
balancing
forward
to
2022
in
the
relationship
to
the
amount
recommended
in
the
governor's
budget,
would
you
tell
me
or
tell
us
how
the
additional
expenditure
reductions
the
agency
is
considering
in
order
to
balance
that
recommended
budget
for
21
23
biennium.
C
So,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
jessica
hogan
for
the
record.
One
item
that
I
forgot
to
include
in
the
overview
is
the
authorized
use
of
funds,
for
the
forfeiture
account
it's
federal
guidance
that
governs
how
the
funding
can
be
used.
C
So,
in
the
past,
what
we
have
done
is
when
additional
funding
comes
in
we're
required
to
go
to,
depending
on
the
dollar
thresholds,
we
are
required
to
go
to
ifc
and
receive
budgetary
authorization
to
receive
the
funds
and
expend
them
according
to
our
plan,
once
the
funds
have
been
received,
but
technically
from
the
federal
guidance,
if
we
do
continue
planning
and
budgeting
for
expenditures
on
funds
that
we
have
not
yet
received,
we're
not
in
compliance
with
the
federal
guidance.
So
essentially
we
plan
and
spend
the
funds
as
they
come
in
and
once
they're
gone.
C
A
See
so
with
that,
can
you
tell
me
about
the
status
of
the
update
of
the
cases
that
they
that
you
all
anticipate
for
forfeiture
funds
might
be
forthcoming.
C
Jessica,
dear
for
the
record,
unfortunately,
we
cannot,
and
that
is
not
because
we
would
not
love
to
give
you
that
information.
We
just
don't
have
it.
The
federal
government
is
the
ultimate
say-so
in
determining
how
much
and
when
we
receive
this
money
and
because
of
that
because
of
all
the
federal
terms
and
conditions
we
do
not
use
this
account
to
to
fund
any
one
position,
any
particular
activity
anything
that
we
have
to
rely
upon,
because
this
money
is
so
unreliable.
C
So,
like
jessica
said,
when
we
get
the
money,
we
use
it
in
a
way.
That's
federally
appropriate
and
authorized
by
the
legislature
through
ifc,
but
because
it
is
so
sporadic
and
we
don't
get
those
that
advance
notice
that
you're
asking
about.
We
simply
cannot
rely
upon
it
for
any
particular
budgetary
reason.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
miss
dunder
luke.
I
guess
I'm
still
a
little
confused
about
the
shortfall.
Am
I
unmuted?
Yes,
I
am
so
it
looks
like
you're
going
to
be
using
more
than
what's
actually
left
in
the
forfeiture
fund
or
is
it
friday
and
I
am
misreading
this.
C
So,
thank
you,
madam
chair
jessica,
hogan
for
the
record.
I
don't
think
you're
misreading
anything.
It
is
fairly
confusing.
Some
of
the
numbers
that
you're
seeing
may
be
misleading
from
the
standpoint
of
the
way
that
our
system
works
to
to
build
a
budget
through
through
the
nev's
system.
C
So
there
were
a
couple
of
oversights
that
the
agency
had,
in
our
agency
approved
budget,
where
we
maybe
could
have
more
clearly
backed
out
100
of
the
costs
in
our
base
year
and
that
may
have
led
to
the
numbers
you're
looking
at
making
a
little
more
sense
than
what
they
do
right
now,
but
part
of
the
challenge
there
is
the
current
biennial
budget
actually
did
include
revenue
and
cost,
and
the
fiscal
year
21
work
program
year
in
in
the
system
that
we
use
to
build
our
budget
actually
demonstrated
actually
demonstrated
additional
revenue
and
expenditures
than
what
we
have
and
honestly
could
not
be
accommodated
through
the
budget
building
system
itself
because
of
the
excess
that
was
already
built
into
our
legislatively
approved
budget
was,
would
exceed
even
all
of
the
costs
that
we
incurred
in
our
base
year.
C
C
It
should
be
non-ifc
because
the
dollar
amount
would
be
under
thirty
thousand
dollars.
But
if
we
prepare
that
work
program
that
actually
aligns
our
current
cash
available
versus
how
we
plan
to
spend
it,
it
would
go
through
the
process
and
receive
the
approvals
and,
as
a
result,
it
may
be
able
to
be
updated
in
the
budget
building
system
so
that
you
have
a
better
and
more
clear
picture
of
what
it
of
what
this
account
looks
like
currently
and
then
that
would
then
flow
into
the
next
biennial
period.
A
Thank
you
for
the
explanation.
I
I
appreciate
it.
This
one
does
have
a
number
of
moving
pieces,
so
if
you
would
work
with
staff
on
that
and
if
we
could
have
some
conversations
about
how
we
can
kind
of
true
this
up,
because
it
does
look
like
you're
looking
for
more
than
is
there,
you
never
know
for
sure
how
much
is
going
to
come
in
there's
restrictions
on
how
it
can
be
spent.
So
I
just
want
to
try
to
keep
this
as
straight
as
possible,
knowing
all
the
the
guidance
that's
involved
in
this
particular
budget.
A
Mr
roberts,
yes,
I
saw
you,
but
I
wasn't
sure
if
it
was
this
one
or
the
last
one
so
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
What
do
you
what's
your
average
on
what
you
receive
on
the
equity
sharing
program
per
year,.
A
Okay,
that
makes
sense.
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair
appreciate
it
you're
welcome
mr
roberts.
These
are
complicated
and
I
want
you
all
to
understand
how
it
works.
So
thank
you
for
the
question
committee
members
any
other
questions
at
this
time,
not
seeing
anyone
or
hearing
anyone,
so
I
believe
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
item.
Ladies,
that
is
10
45.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
We,
like
the
wishes
for
luck,
jessica,
hogan,
for
the
record.
This
is
budget
account
1045
national
settlement
administration.
This
budget
account
was
established
with
a
national
settlement
related
to
mortgage
fraud,
and
I
believe
I
believe
most
of
the
positions
were
established
in
fiscal
year
2012..
C
This
budget
is
currently
funded
100
with
the
remaining
of
that
settlement
funds
that
was
first
placed
in
this
account
back
in
its
initiation,
and
the
complication
here
is
when
you're
funding
a
budget
with
a
one-shot
source,
such
as
a
settlement.
Once
those
funds
are
spent,
they
eventually
get
to
a
point
where
they
are
being
depleted
and
that's
the
complication
in
this
budget
that
I
believe
the
chair
was
was
mentioning
we're
referring
to
so
we
have
one
decision
in
this
budget.
C
C
That
is
the
proposed
budget,
where
these
would
be
received
because
it
does
align
with
their
operational
duties
and
our
organizational
structure
so
to
this
particular
budget
account.
Although,
from
an
agency
perspective,
there
is
no
net
change
in
additional
obligation,
it
would
save
expenditure
of
the
settlement,
funds
that
are
being
depleted.
C
It
would
save
this
budget
thousand
278
hundred
sixty
four
dollars
in
year,
one
and
two
hundred
eighty
thousand
thirteen
dollars
in
year.
Two.
If
this
decision
unit
were
approved
and
these
positions
did
transfer
to
budget
account
1038,
it
is
that
other
budget
account
that
would
then
assume
the
same
costs
for
taking
on
b
staff.
A
C
Thank
you,
senator
jessica.
Dare
for
the
record,
you
are
absolutely
correct.
The
reason
we're
not
just
putting
some
additional
settlement
dollars
into
this
particular
budget
account
it's
because,
after
conversations
with
lcb,
gfo
and
state
controller,
it
was
determined
that
this
particular
account
cannot
receive
any
additional
settlement
dollars
beyond
the
mortgage
fraud
settlement
because
it
is
not
set
up
that
way
and
would
require
a
statutory
change.
But
your
larger
question
and
point
remains:
we
are
running
out
of
funding
for
this
budget
account.
C
But
we
are
looking
down
a
very
difficult
problem
where
we
have
many
employees
in
our
office
who
provide
incredibly
important
services
to
the
state
of
nevada
who,
if
we
do
not
come
with
a
solution
in
the
next
biennium,
we're
going
to
have
some
serious
issues,
and
I
know
that
I
sound
like
a
broken
record,
because
I
spoke
about
this
in
the
budget
hearing
in
the
2019
session
and
I've.
C
I
think
I've
reached
out
to
some
of
you
individually
prior
to
this
budget
hearing
on
this
account,
specifically
because
we
are
so
concerned
about
it,
but
we
were
able
for
this
particular
budget
cycle
to
ensure
that
all
of
our
all
of
the
staff
are
fully
funded
for
the
next
biennium
and
then,
and
because
of
that,
we
did
not
make
any
changes
in
this
particular
budget
to
ensure
that
those
budget,
though,
that
the
next
budget
cycle
would
be
fully
funded.
If
that
makes
sense,.
A
C
Absolutely
so
this
pro
this
program
essentially
has
three
different
functions.
One
of
those
functions
is
the
attorney
and
the
legal
researcher
who
are
working
on
mortgage
fraud,
issues,
consumer
protection
issues
and
multi-state
settlements.
That
work
will
continue
when
you
transfer
to
the
1038
budget,
if
that
is
so
approved
in
this
budget
cycle.
The
other
two
functions,
though,
remain
in
1045,
and
those
are
absolutely
critical.
There
is
one
of
those
functions
is
the
receiving
investigating
and
prosecuting
of
complaints
related
to
financial
fraud
and
elder
abuse.
C
So
we
have
many
positions
in
our
office
from
administrative
aides
who
work
in
our
constituent
services
unit
who
receive
complaints
about
scams,
fraud,
elder
abuse,
all
sorts
of
consumer
protection
issues
who
work
directly
with
constituents
when
they,
when
they
file
complaints
with
our
office.
I
I
will
say
that
the
consumer
protection
issues
is
the
number
one
source
of
complaints
in
our
office
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
cobit
has
only
made
that
more
difficult.
C
So
one
of
the
things
that
you
did
not
see
in
this
presentation
because
it
wasn't
a
decision
unit,
it's
in
the
base
budget
was
a
cut
to
those
sub
grantees
and
the
amount
of
money
that
they
received
to
the
attorney
general's
office
to
work
on
those
on
those
issues.
C
A
A
You
intrigued
me
on
the
cut
to
legal
aid,
and
so
you're
saying
it
doesn't
show
up.
Is
that
because
that
gets
treated
as
a
one-time
appropriation,
and
so
therefore
just
isn't
even
in
the
base
budget.
C
So
it
wasn't
considered
a
decision
unit,
and
that
is
why
it
wasn't
in
the
presentation,
but
it
was
if
you
look
at
our
line
by
line
budget
in
the
governor's
recommended
budget.
That
information
is
there
and
we've
been
talking
to
our
legal
aid
partners
for
over
a
year
in
anticipation
of
these
decisions,
but
that
that's
why
it's
not
included
in
the
presentation
we're
not
trying
to
hide
it,
but
it
just
because
of
the
formulation
of
the
decision
units
it
wasn't.
It
didn't
appear
as
a
decision.
A
I
appreciate
that
and
maybe
staff
can
help
me,
I'm
still
learning
to
read
the
full
budgets,
so
any
staff
could
help
me
find
that
line
item
and
we
can
get
on
the
record
what
that
cut
will
be,
and
then
so,
apart
from
general
fund
appropriations,
which
we
all
know
are
a
challenge
right
now.
What
have
you
done
to
explore
alternative
funding
sources
for
some
of
this
important
work.
C
So
I
I
I
have
an
expert
here
next
to
me
who
can
actually
answer
your
your
previous
question
more
appropriately.
So
I
will
let
her
take
over
on
that,
but
in
terms
of
what
what
are
our
plans
so
we're
talking
with
our
legal
aid
partners,
we're
talking
with
other
folks
in
the
community.
We've
been
talking
to
gfo
lcp
members
of
the
committee
about
this
for
for
quite
some
time
we're
open
to
ideas.
C
We
have
some
some
ideas
that
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
in
the
future
to
to
ensure
that
we
are
sustainably
funding
this
budget.
We
did
consider
whether
we
should
ask
for
a
general
fund
to
supplement
these
positions,
but
since
we
have
the
money
now
we
felt
that
that
was
inappropriate
at
this
particular
time,
so
we're
open
to
working
with
you.
We
do
have
some
ideas.
C
C
That
was
primarily
related
to
the
requirement
to
balance
the
budget
and
we
have
to
balance
it
at
the
base
and
adjusted
base
levels.
So
the
reason
why
you
didn't
see
the
cut
to
the
partners
on
the
on
the
slide
presentation,
like
jessica
adair
said,
is
because
it
was
kind
of
rolled
into
our
base
budget.
C
Looking
at
it
from
a
more
broad
perspective,
we
did
intend
on
continuing
funding
as
close
as
we
possibly
could
to
the
current
levels
to
each
of
our
non-profit
partners.
C
The
dollar
amount
of,
if
I
could
ask
you
senator
with
the
dollar
amount
of
the
cut
or
the
dollar
amount
of
the
cost
savings.
C
We
decided
to
locate
the
numbers
right
now.
No,
it's
right
there!
Oh
yes,
we
have
in
interpret
this
for
me,
yeah.
C
So
it's
we
cut
each
sub
grantee
depending
on
your
previous
awards,
so
it
would
be
more
easy
overall,
an
additional
cut
that
was
that
was
made
to
these
partner
organizations.
In
order
to
balance
our
base
budget
is
approximately
250
000
total
we
did
want
to.
We
didn't
want
to
take
the
full
amount
from
one
partner
organization
over
another,
so
we
did
we
did
kind
of
allocate
across
so
that
it
wasn't
as
large
a
hit
to
one
particular
partner.
C
A
Yeah
I
appreciate
it
and
I
don't
I
don't
mean
to
second
guess
the
number.
I
know
we're
putting
you
on
the
spot
a
little
bit
here,
but
if
you
could
work
with
staff,
my
recollection
from
these
conversations
from
last
session
was
that
the
number
was
significantly
higher
than
that,
and
so
maybe
I'm
thinking
of
another
number
or,
but
if
we
could
dig
into
that
with
staff.
I'd
appreciate
that
that
information
and
then,
madam
chair,
that
was
a
lot
of
discretion.
So
I
appreciate
the
time
and
would
just
request
that
we
keep
an
eye
on.
A
This,
doesn't
feel
like
it's
going
to
show
up
in
a
decision
unit
anywhere,
but
you
know
maybe
we
get
lucky
and
get
some
federal
funds
or
something
along
those
lines
that
apply
to
this.
I
think
it's
an
important
important
service.
We
provide
to
nevadans.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
senator
and
I
I
totally
agree
being
around
when
this
fund
came
into
existence,
the
national
settlement
fund,
all
the
changes
and
gyrations
that
it
has
made
setting
up
the
foreclosure
mediation
program,
which
I
believe
is
very
valuable,
especially
right.
A
A
It's
going
to
get
bigger
in
the
next
year
and
we
have
to
have
the
consumer
protection
for
folks
to
be
able
to
go
to
if
I
wasn't
able
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
legal
aid
or
one
of
the
other
folks
that
I
can
get
advice
from
to
help
these
folks
that
come
to
the
non-profit
agencies
for
assistance,
I'm
not
sure
what
other
options
they
would
have.
So
I
believe
it's
very
important
that
we
make
sure
that
there
isn't
a
consumer
protection
cliff
in
this
mortgage
settlement
area.
A
We
know
banks
will
only
wait
so
long
and
we
know
this
recovery
is
going
to
be
long.
So
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you,
ladies
and
with
staff,
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
try
to
address
this
issue.
The
one
thing
that
we
really
didn't
discuss
too
much
was
the
the
21
positions.
I
think
you
glanced
on
it
a
little
bit
but
you're
going
to
have
those
21
positions
for
a
bit
longer.
But
what
is
the
plan
going
forward
with
those
21
positions
and
we
know
when
we
get
settlements?
A
We
have
a
job
to
do
for
five
years.
We
hire
the
folks
they're
all
well
aware,
but
we
also
know
there's
still
a
problem
out
there.
So
if
you
could
elaborate
on
those
21
positions,
please.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
your
words
about
the
importance
of
this
program.
It
is
at
the
heart
of
what
we
do
in
the
ag's
office,
it's
very
important
to
the
attorney
general,
and
we
know
that
the
service
that
we
are
providing
and
the
service
that
the
legal
aids
are
providing
on
this
issue
is
just
it
couldn't
be
more
important
and
it
couldn't
be
more
important
right
now.
C
So
I
really
appreciate
that
in
terms
of
those
those
21
positions
that
gets
to
that
bucket
of
the
folks
who
work
in
our
offices,
whether
they're,
constituent
services,
staff,
investigators
or
prosecutors,
who
receive
completes
on
on
financial
fraud
and
scams
and
elder
abuse,
investigate
those
complaints
and
prosecute,
prosecute
any
criminal
matters,
and
so
and
then
the
two
positions
that
are
currently
the
senior
deputy
attorney
general
and
a
legal
researcher
that
we're
proposing
to
move
to
1038.
C
A
And
thank
you
very
much.
I
I
appreciate
that
answer
earlier
in
your
testimony
in
one
of
the
other
budgets
you
had
mentioned
that
there's
a
lot
of
other
settlements
in
the
works
right
now
and
I
think
that's
actually
where
the
attorney
general
is
right
now.
So,
apart
from
general
fund
appropriations,
what
are
your
plans
and
what
have
you
explored
to
be
able
to
maintain
some
of
these
very
important
positions
that
do
a
really
good
service
to
our
constituents?.
C
Thank
you
chair.
We
are
open
to
anything
so
so
one
of
the
reasons
we
haven't
supplemented
this
this
budget
with
more
settlement
funding
that
is
unrelated
to
the
mortgage
drive
settlement
is
just
because
we
are
limited
by
statute
to
to
not
add
any
additional
settlement
dollars
or
any
other
dollars.
However,
we've
been
talking,
as,
as
I
think,
senator
ronnie
was
alluding
to
we've
been
we've
been
speaking
to
stakeholders
gfo
lcp
members
of
this
committee.
Anyone
who
is
willing
to
take
my
phone
call
about
this
issue.
C
I
am
all
ears
to
figure
out
how
we
more
sustainably
fund
this
these
positions
and
and
the
legal
aid
organizations
that
work
on
this
issue.
I
know
that
many
of
them
are
very
interested
in
this
budget
hearing
and
what
comes
out
of
it
and
and
I'm
happy
to
to
brainstorm
with
you,
we.
So
I
think
there
was
a
mention
earlier
about
federal
dollars
again
because
this,
but
this
budget
account
doesn't
accept
federal
dollars
or
any
other
dollars.
C
We
haven't
used
federal
dollars
in
this
budget
account
if
there
was
a
way
that
we
could
accept
federal
dollars,
or
you
know,
I
think,
if
there
was
a
grant
program
that
might
be
appropriate
for
this,
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
look
into
that.
Make
sure
that
we
reflect
we
could
apply
and
ensure
that
we're
able
to
bring
in
different
kinds
of
funding
to
work
on
these
issues.
A
All
right,
I
think
one
of
your
statements
piqued
another
question
from
senator
ratty,
so
we
usually
don't
do
this,
but
it's
an
important
issue,
so
senator
ratty,
you
had
a
a
quick
follow-up
on
this.
My
apologies,
just
a
quick
clarification
is
the
statute.
That's
preventing
us
from
directing
any
other
funding
into
this
account
nrs,
something
we
can
change.
C
Thank
you,
senator
jessica,
david,
the
record,
I
believe
so,
and
this
has
been
the
subject
of
a
spirited
debate
between
the
lcb
gfo
state
and
estate
controller.
So
I
am
happy
to
work
with
your
staff
to
see
if
we
can
figure
out
how
we
make
a
statutory
change.
I
believe
it
was
the
statute
that
created
this
budget,
account
that
limited
the
sources
of
funding
to
just
that
mortgage
pride
settlement.
A
Thank
you
and
miss
adair.
If
I
could
follow
up,
though,
but
I
believe
the
statute
was
created
because
the
way
the
settlement
agreement
was
signed
off
on
the
money
could
only
be
spent
in
this
way.
So
we
made
sure
by
statute
that
the
money
only
got
spent
this
way.
I
think
you
need
to
track
it
back.
One
more
decision
point
and
I
may
be
wrong:
it's
been
a
long
time
since
we've
had
this
conversation,
but
that
was
my
recollection.
C
Yes,
madam
chair,
and
I
think
what
we
would,
what
we
would
like
to
figure
out
is
by
statute.
It's
so
long
as
the
additional
funds
are
used
for
the
same
purpose.
Would
it
be
acceptable
under
nrs,
but
I
think
you're
getting
exactly
to
the
reasoning
why
they
set
up
this
action.
That
way.
A
Thank
you.
It
was
an
accountability
measure
to
make
sure
that
it
didn't
become
something
it
was
never
intended
to
be,
and
it
also
sent
a
message
in
the
settlement
agreement
that
we
were
taking
this
seriously
and
we
were
going
to
use
the
monies
in
an
appropriate
way.
So
we
didn't
open
ourselves
up
for
criticism
on
using
the
money
to
just
backfill
any
budget
that
we
wanted
to.
So.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that.
A
So
I
believe
that
takes
care.
Was
there
any
other
questions?
Please
speak
up
it's
hard
to
keep
up
with
the
chat
requests,
sometimes.
A
C
C
This
budget
account
funds
one
position.
This
also
received
settlement
funding
to
establish
the
one
position
and
also
use
the
settlement
funds
to
fulfill
a
few
other
initiatives
primarily
related
to
opioid
the
opioid
situation
that
we
have
and
try
to
curtail
some
of
the
impacts
of
the
opioid
crisis.
C
Essentially,
there
would
be
no
fiscal
impact
to
this
budget,
as
we
have
been
incurring
costs
for
this
position
over
the
previous
biennium.
So
there
is
no
additional
cost
of
this
request.
It's
simply
allowing
the
opportunity
for
additional
discussion
and
conversation
related
to
this
position
to
determine,
if
approved
whether
or
not
it
would
continue.
C
C
A
I
apologize,
I
was
muted,
senator
dennis
sure
yeah.
I
want
to
ask.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay
thanks.
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
criminal
investigative
position
and
the
health
care
fraud
task
force.
Can
you
provide
an
update
on
their.
C
Thank
you,
senator
jessica,
dear
for
the
record,
this
is
a
post-certified
sworn
peace
officer
who
is
working
with
the
health
care
fraud
task
force
primarily
based
in
northern
nevada.
They
do
a
great
deal
of
work
on
prescription
and
illicit
illicit
prescription.
Drugs
such
as
opioids
this
investigator
has
been
working
hand
in
hand
with
many
of
the
investigations
that
occur
with
haida
and
up
in
northern
nevada
with
the
ied
corridor
that
we
do
see
as
a
significant
opioid
trafficking
route.
C
The,
for
example,
one
of
the
federal
grants
that
we
applied
and
received
was
it
is
called
od
map.
So
we
have
a
physician.
That's
a
joint
physician
with
the
department
of
health
and
human
services
that
works
with
every
law
enforcement
agency,
at
least
one
law
enforcement
agency
in
every
county
in
the
state
to
map
and
track
opioid
spikes.
So
when
we
can
see
there
is
a
database
system
where
law
enforcement
agencies
can
input
when
they,
when
they
attend
to
an
opioid
overdose.
C
I
know
that's
not
specifically
to
this
investigator,
but
I
wanted
to
answer
your
question
about
what
we're
doing
more
broadly,
to
address
that
opioid
epidemic
and
then,
of
course,
the
litigation
to
ensure
that
the
the
reasons
and
contributors
to
the
opioid
crisis
are
held
accountable
in
this
state
and
that
families
that
have
been
affected
by
the
crisis
get
justice.
And,
frankly,
our
state
that
has
spent
an
untold
amount
of
money
and
time
and
resources
are
held
accountable.
C
Thank
you
senator
yes,
and
actually
the
the
the
settlement
funds,
the
volkswagen
funds
being
used
for
this
purpose,
was
under
the
previous
administration
and
it
was
part
of
a
larger
package
of
opioid
related
initiatives
that
they
funded
through
this
volkswagen
settlement.
C
It's
very
important
position
and,
frankly,
this
work
could
not
be
more
critical,
we're
just
seeing
a
rising
rate
of
opioid
destructive
state,
though
we
I
think
looking
forward
into
future
bienniums,
are
interested
in
figuring
out
a
better
way
to
fund
this
position,
so
it
isn't
reliant
upon
a
settlement
agreement
that
was
not
necessarily
connected
to
the
opioid
epidemic
yeah.
So
you
anticipated
my
my
next
question,
which
was:
how
are
you
going
to
fund
it
after
2023
sounds
like
you're
from
what
you
just
said.
C
It
sounds
like
you're
looking
at
that,
but
you
don't
have
any
permanent
solutions
at
this.
A
A
A
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
have
a
particular
interest
in
this
topic
and
use
of
funds
relating
to
this
topic
and
where
we
go
from
here,
so
I
know
that
there's
actively
a
that
we're
hoping
that
there's
going
to
be
some
more
settlement
funds
in
regards
to
the
opioid
crisis,
could
you
speak
to
what
we
anticipate
we
might
be
seeing
in
the
future?
Are
there
other
outstanding
settlement
funds
that
we
think
may
be
coming
in
in
this
next
biennium.
C
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
I
just
gotta
dare
for
the
record.
I
am
not
at
liberty
to
on
the
record,
discuss
what
we
anticipate
from
the
opioid
litigation.
I
will
say,
though,
that,
if
the
amount,
whether
we
receive
it
through
trial
or
settlement,
should
be
commiserate
with
the
loss
that
this
state
has
endured,
which
is
extremely
great.
C
I
do
think.
However,
it's
my
personal
opinion,
it's
dependent
of
the
attorney
general,
and
I
think
that
we
share
this
opinion
with
you
that
that
those
funds
should
be
dedicated
to
abatement
and
ensuring
that
those
funds
are
not
used
for
another
purpose
that
is
unrelated
to
the
opioid
epidemic.
C
I
will
say
that
the
previous
complaint
that
was
only
filed
against
purdue
pharma
and
did
not
include
executives
of
purdue,
burma
or
50
other
defendants,
we
believe
contributed
to
the
opioid
epidemic,
would
have
resulted
in
a
significantly
less
significantly
smaller
amount
of
money
received
by
the
state
of
nevada,
because
we
have
seriously
expanded
that
complaint
to
include
some
of
the
largest
corporations
in
the
world.
C
I
think
we
are
at
a
better
we're
in
a
better
position
and
additionally,
nevada's
laws
that
address
co-conspirator
conduct
are
very
strong,
and
so
we
are
in
a
unique
position
in
this
state,
not
just
because
we
were
uniquely
impacted.
C
If
you
look
at
the
per
capita
number
of
deaths
of
opioid
deaths
across
the
country,
nevada
was
uniquely
impacted,
more
disproportionately
impacted
for
opiate
deaths,
but
we
have
a
unique
position
in
that
our
laws
are
very
favorable
to
the
state.
In
terms
of
this
litigation,
I
don't
want
to
give
you
a
number
and
then
be
wrong
so,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
anybody's
hopes
up,
and
I
also
don't
want
to
undershoot.
So,
as
you
know,
if
we
get
more
information
on
that,
of
course,
you
all
will
be
the
first
to
know.
A
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
I
know
we're
we're
going
to
have
more
conversations
about
this
soon,
and
so
I
I
do
share
that
common
goal
of
making
sure
that
those
funds
are
used
towards
treatment
and
prevention
and
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
discuss
options
moving
forward.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
you're,
welcome
assemblywomanholes.
A
So
with
that
I
believe
I
have
dr
titus
next.
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
ask
you
a
question.
A
Thank
you
for
for
the
attorney
general's
office,
your
presentation
and
comments
about
the
opiate
addiction
and
the
crisis
we
have,
as
we
all
know,
we've
seen
an
increased
episode
of
overdoses
during
this
pandemic
for
a
number
of
reasons,
but
but
it's
still
out
there
and
still
a
crisis
here
in
our
state
and
throughout
our
nation,
and
I'm
very
pleased
that
there's
investigation
going
on
when
you
see
that
spike
in
opioid
overdoses.
That
means
there's
been
an
exceptionally
bad
batch
of
something
out
there
and
getting
on
that
really
quickly.
A
So
we
can
limit
that
that
exposure
to
our
citizens,
I
think,
is
critical.
So
I
appreciate
that
my
question
is
along
the
settlement
funds
for
the
opiates,
and
I
understand
that
we
haven't
really
sorted
all
that
out
yet,
but
the
process
of
where
those
funds
will
go
once
we
do
get
more
of
these
funds,
and-
and
I
appreciate
that
you-
you
come
back
to
to
us
as
a
body
and
let
us
know
what's
happening
because
hopefully
it
goes
some
into
the
to
some
of
these
mobile
crisis
units.
A
Perhaps
overdose
addiction
treatment,
all
those,
so
I
just
will
be
interested
to
see
what
the
plans
are.
As
you
get
these
funds,
how
will
they
be
distributed
and
the
how
we
can
be
involved
with
that
along
the
same
line?
My
question
is
what
what
are
your
plans
for
those
if
you
have
any
plans,
and
can
you
share
those
yet
and
the
number
two
thing
was
I'm
also
interested
in
some
of
these
other
finds
that
you
have
along
the
pandemic
and
we're
not
seeing
that
today,
but
perhaps
on
another
time
you
could.
A
Let
us
know
where
the
osha
finds
are
going,
what
you
use
those
for
all
these
along
that
pandemic.
So
at
some
point,
if
we
could
get
some
information
on
where
those
fines
are
going
and
what
you're
planning
to
do
with
the
opiate
fine
settlements,
I
I
would
appreciate
it
so
thank
you
and,
if
you're
prepared
to
answer
any
of
that
now
or
can
follow
up
with
that,
that'd
be
fine.
C
Thank
you.
I
just
did
for
the
record.
I
can
answer
some
of
those
questions
in
terms
of
the
osha
fines.
I
I
really
cannot
speak
to
those
particular
finds
that
is
handled
by
osha
and
those
fines
do
not
come
to
the
attorney
general's
office.
So
I
wish
I
could
provide
you
information,
but
it's
a
little
bit
outside
of
my
wheelhouse
in
terms
of
the
the
sort,
the
funding
for
any
opioid
related
litigation.
C
Part
of
that
will
depend
on
how
we
would
receive
that
money,
whether
it
was
a
multi-state
settlement,
a
settlement
with
just
the
state
of
nevada
or,
frankly,
through
a
trial.
If
it's
a
multi-state
settlement,
often
we
have
to.
We
have
to
play
gate
ball
with
the
rest
of
the
states
who
are
settling.
Many
of
those
states
have
their
own
statutory
requirements
on
how
multi-state
settlements
or
opioid
settlements
in
particular,
are
handled,
and
we
would
have
to
participate
in
those
and
meet
the
terms
and
conditions
of
that
will
facing
settlement.
C
If
it's
a
settlement
with
just
the
state
of
nevada,
we
have
a
lot
more
lead
way
so,
for
example,
the
t-mobile
settlement
that
was
just
with
the
state
of
nevada.
We
were
able
to
craft
the
settlement
that
settlement
agreement
that
spoke
to
nevada,
kept
nevada
jobs
in
nevada.
I
didn't
gave
money
to
nevada
for
sure,
but
I
also
required
t-mobile
to
invest
in
all
sorts
of
programs
that
were
nevada
specifically.
C
So
if
we're
able
to
engage
in
a
settlement
agreement
with
with
just
nevada,
we
would
have
a
lot
more
leeway
if
the
funds
are
come
through
the
results
of
a
trial.
We
there
is
no
settlement
agreement,
so
there
is
no
court
order
that
we
would
have
in
terms
of
a
settlement
agreement
that
we
would
have
to
abide
by.
However,
a
court
or
jury
might
have
a
restriction
upon
that
funding,
so
it
really
really
depend
on
on
how
the
funding
would
end
up
in
the
in
the
states
and,
of
course,
you're
you're.
C
C
So
we
can
fund
law
enforcement,
public
health
and
educators
and
all
those
folks,
the
entire
ecosystem
of
people
who
are
affected
by
this
crisis.
And
so
we
can
also
ensure
that
this
doesn't
happen
again.
So
we're
we're
very
much
looking
forward
to
working
with
your
with
the
legislature
with
the
governor's
office,
with
public
health
experts
et
cetera,
to
ensure
that
that
funding.
If
and
when
we
do
get,
it
is
used
in
the
best
way
to
serve
the
state.
A
Great
thank
you
for
for
replying
and,
and
that's
very
encouraging,
and
and
thank
you
for
what
you're
doing.
Thank
you
manager
and
thank
you,
dr
titus,
and
you
know,
I
think
we
as
the
legislature
need
to
be
careful
about
walking
into
some
of
these
conversations
a
little
bit
too
deeply.
This
really
is
the
ag's
world,
and
you
know
it's.
A
We
work
with
him
on
it,
but
it's
not
it's
kind
of
a
it's
a
tough
issue
to
work
on,
but
we
all
know
what
our
priorities
for
the
state
is,
so
we
just
hope
that
we
get
there
and
that
the
when
the
settlements
do
occur,
that
they
get
good
work
done
in
the
state.
So
I
appreciate
everyone's
questions
and
concerns
about
this.
A
I'm
not
sure
if
we
addressed
the
spending
of
the
balance
of
this
account
did
did
that
get
answered.
Amongst
all
this
conversation-
and
I
missed
it,
I
believe
there'll
be
a
remaining
balance.
So
how
will
that
be
dealt
with.
C
Thank
you,
chair,
jessica,
dear,
for
the
record
that
I
believe
will
be
carried
forward
for
use
in
future
biennia.
Yes,
I
am
correct,
but
it
will.
A
C
Not
that
I
I
think
you
just
did
after
the
record,
not
that
I
am
aware
of
at
this
moment.
Our
plan
was
to
carry
that
balance
forward
to
continue
funding
that
one
that
one
position
until
we
come
to
a
better
idea
of
how
to
more
sustainably
fund
that
position
in
the
future.
A
And
I
appreciate
that-
and
I
I
think
this
is
like
a
just
a
general
holistic
comment
statement
on
the
record.
We
know
that
funding
positions
with
settlement
money
is
a
double-edged
sword.
It's
nice
to
be
able
to
start
a
program
and
have
someone
else
fund
it
to
see
if
it
works
for
the
state
of
nevada,
but
then,
if
it
does
work
for
us
and
it
is
actually
helping
people,
we
need
to
have
the
serious
discussion
about.
Does
it
need
to
be
carried
forward
or
not?
A
So
I
I
know
folks
always
have
concerns
about
funding
positions,
and
I
always
that
that's
one
of
my
concerns,
but
I
also
know
when
folks
do
take
these
jobs.
They
do
know
that
it's
tied
to
a
certain
funding
stream
as
if
they
had
been
working
for
a
grant
and
they
know
that
there
is
a
date
involved
and
we
do
get
a
lot
of
really
good
information
and
data
to
be
able
to
look
at
what's
going
on
in
in
the
state.
A
A
Not
hearing
any
not
seeing
anyone
wishing
to
be
recognized
all
right
well,
thank
you,
ladies
very
much
for
being
here
on
a
friday
morning.
I
think
we
pretty
did
pretty
good
on
time.
We
appreciate
you
and
you
will
be
getting
requests
for
information
from
us
as
we
move
forward.
I
look
forward
to
the
future
conversations
that
we're
going
to
have
thank.
C
A
Much
thank
you
so
with
that
committee
members
that
closes
out
our
business
for
the
day,
we
now
need
to
go
to
public
comment.
It
is
1006
by
my
clock
at
this
time,
we'll
give
it
till
1008
two
minutes
for
folks
to
be
able
to
call
in
give
them
time
to
do
it,
especially
since
we're
on
a
time
delay,
so
we'll
stand
at
ease
for
a
couple
of
moments
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
Thank
you
all
very.
A
A
All
right
broadcast
services
do
we
have
anyone
in
the
queue
for
public
comment
this
morning,
hello
chair,
this
is
michael
from
broadcast.
The
public
comment
line
is
open
and
working.
However,
we
have
no
callers
at
this
time
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much,
michael.
We
appreciate
it
and
thank
you
to
you
and
all
the
folks
in
mvps
that
help
us
be
successful
with
these
meetings
every
day.
A
So
committee
members,
I
think
that
concludes
our
work
for
today
and
for
the
week
happy
lunar
new
year
to
everyone
and
have
a
safe
and
happy
valentine's
with
those
that
you
love.
So
with
that
we
are
adjourned.