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A
A
And
I
am
here
so
welcome
everyone.
We
have
a
number
of
bills
on
our
agenda
this
evening.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
in
front
of
us
just
so
that
everyone
understands
the
kind
of
the
role
for
this
evening.
We
have
four
bills
to
introduce,
which
I
think
that
takes
us
up
to
about
115
bills.
A
It's
the
chair's
intention,
since
ab116
has
drawn
a
lot
of
attention
to
have
that
be
the
last
bill
this
evening,
so
that
all
the
opposition
doesn't
slow
down
everything
else
that's
going
on,
so
that
allows
us
to
get
through
the
other
bills
a
little
bit
better.
So
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
the
the
bdr
introductions
at
this
time
I'll.
Let
miss
kaufman
walk
us
through
those.
If,
if
she
would
please.
A
C
A
So
without
committee
members,
does
anyone
have
any
questions
on
any
of
the
bill
draft
introductions
at
this
time,
not
seeing
any
I'd,
go
ahead
and
accept
a
motion
to
introduce
from
miss
benitez
thompson?
Second,
from
assemblywoman
titus
any
questions
or
comments
on
the
motion
hearing,
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
any
in
opposition
hearing
no
opposition
passes
unanimously.
The
members
present
we'll
report
those
to
the
floor
and
they're
going
to
get
spun
right
back
around
to
us,
so
expect
to
see
them
on
an
agenda
near
you
soon.
A
So
with
that,
I
believe
we
can
go
ahead
and
begin
our
business
for
the
evening,
we'll
begin
with
assembly
bill
464,
and
I
have
been
informed
that
I
have
about
maybe
40
50
people
and
zoom
and
on
video.
So
when
I
call
up
a
bill,
if
you're
the
person
I
need,
please
speak
up
it'll
help
us
manage
what
we're
doing
so
assembly
bill.
464
I'll,
have
miss
kaufman,
walk
through
it
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
gfo
or
whoever
the
designated
person
for
the
gfo.
Is
this
evening,
ms
kaufman.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly,
bill
464
provides
for
general
fund
appropriation
to
the
still
claims
account
of
three
million
five
hundred
seventy
thousand
five
hundred.
Seventy
eight
dollars
to
the
emergency
account
for
two
239
791
dollars
and
to
the
statutory
contingency
account
for
12
million
51
680
658
dollars
and
an
appropriation
to
the
contingency
account
the
amount
of
13
million
667
thousand
three
hundred
five
dollars.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
this
bill
is
a
replenishment
bill,
so
there
are
four
basic
contingency
or
emergency
accounts
that
require
replenishment
each
year,
and
this
would
bring
the
the
various
accounts
to
a
level
that
is
sufficient
to
meet
the
needs
for
the
next
biennium.
A
A
Not
seeing
any
questions
from
any
committee
members
with
that
this
is
the
bill
hearing
for
assembly
bill
464.,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
open
up
the
hearing
on
464..
Do
we
have
anyone
here
in
support
of
assembly
bill
464
if
you're
on
zoom?
If
you'd
wish
to
be
recognized
and
then
we'll
go
to
audio,
do
we
have
anyone
on
zoom.
D
D
D
D
A
E
Thank
you,
chair
carlton.
This
is
adam
sullivan.
We
have
a
acting
nevada
state
engineer.
We
do
have
a
a
powerpoint
presentation
to
go
along
with
this
to
discuss
this.
This
bill.
A
Know
so,
if
you'd
like
to
just
give
us
a
brief
overview,
please
we
understand
the
issue
we've
heard
about
this
issue
numerous
times
and
we
understand
how
important
and
significant
the
maintenance
on
the
south
fork
dam
is.
If
you've
got
some
nice
photos
to
show
us
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
to
look,
but
the
committee,
I
don't
believe,
really
needs
a
10
minute.
Powerpoint
presentation
on
the
south
fork
dam,
not
that
we.
E
E
Again,
this
is
adam
sullivan,
acting
nevada.
State
engineer
with
me
is
michelin
fairbank
chris
thorson,
deputy
administrators,
the
division
of
water
resources,
so.
B
E
South
fork
dam,
the
problem
that
we're
facing
right
now
is
uncontrolled
foundational
seepage
at
the
toe
of
the
dam,
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
a
geotechnical
investigation
of
the
pro
of
the
the
mechanism
of
the
of
the
seepage.
However,
it's
been
getting
substantially
worse
over
the
last
few
years
and
the
purpose
of
this
appropriation
is
to
fund
the
construction
costs
that
would
be
required
to
repair
the
foundational
seepage
based
on
the
outcome
of
the
geotechnical
investigation.
E
E
E
E
We,
the
division,
believes
that
we
have
a
duty
to
request
funding
for
the
need,
repairs
to
protect
life
property
in
the
re,
recreational
and
economic
resource,
and
if
anybody
has
any
questions
about
the
condition
of
the
dam
or
the
status
of
the
investigation
or
the
plans
for
construction,
we
are
available.
Thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
good,
so
individual
members
will
be
able
to
review
that
when
when
when
they
feel
appropriate.
So
with
that,
when
was
the
investigation
done
on
the
damn.
E
E
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
I'll.
Definitely
look
it
up
the
rest
of
it.
Just
a
quick
question.
This
comes
with
specific
dates
that
it
needs
to
happen
by
and
I'm
wondering
if
your
agency,
it
sounds
like
you're,
you've
done
your
studies.
How
quick
could
you
do
this,
and
can
you
fulfill
the
obligation
by
september
of.
H
E
C
H
I
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
question,
the
clarification
from
staff,
because
I
I
just
word:
if
they're
still
in
the
planning
stage,
getting
these
things
started,
getting
a
contractor
could
be
delayed
in
permits,
etc.
So
I'm
just
concerned,
but
hopefully
within
the
two-year
process,
they'll
be
able
to
get
this
done.
Thank
you.
A
A
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up.
Do
we
have
anyone
on
zoom
wishing
to
testify
on
assembly
bill
465.
D
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly,
bill
466
makes
general
fund
appropriation
of
15
million
842
433
dollars
for
hepatitis
c
treatment
for
offenders
within
the
department
of
corrections.
It
also
provides
for
a
general
fund
appropriation
of
196
thousand
five
hundred
and
twenty
three
dollars
for
the
replacement
of
medical
and
dental
equipment.
C
I
A
Thank
you.
Would
you
just
give
us
a
a
bit
of
the
hepatitis
c
issues,
I
believe
very
familiar
with
a
lot
of
us
that
are
on
this
committee,
especially
those
that
sat
through
the
interim.
I
don't
believe
we
need
too
much
explanation
on
that
one,
but
if
you
would
go
through
the
replacement,
medical
and
dental
equipment
just
give
us
a
high
level
overview
of
what
we're
talking
about.
I
Yes,
ma'am
for
the
record
ross,
alfono
medical
administrator
from
the
department
of
corrections.
Basically,
it's
a
list
of
equipment
that
by
usage,
is
worn
out
and
beyond
its
useful
life,
and
we
ask
that
they
be
replaced
so
that
we
can
maintain
providing
care
to
the
inmates
in.
I
A
H
Just
for
clarification,
none
of
this,
the
replacement
equipment
is
the
ultrasound
equipment.
That's
needed
prior
to
treatment
of
any
of
these
hepatitis
c
patients,
no
ma'am
and
so
you're
still
going
to
outsource.
That
particular
need.
I
For
the
record
russ
I'll
follow
medical
administration.
We
are
looking
to
establish
a
few
providers
that
can
provide
either
in
the
in
the
fences,
treatment
and
observation
for
the
ultrasounds
or
through
our
network
for
provider,
organizations
again
providers
that
can
see
our
inmates
in
a
timely
fashion.
I
We
have
not
had
the
ability
to
shop
or
acquire
pricing,
yet
that's
still
in
the
negotiated
works
at
this
time.
H
And
and
doing
our
and
thank
you
for
that,
and
during
our
subcommittee
hearing
on
on
the
hepa
seed
treatment
from
the
department
of
corrections,
it
was
identified
how
many
you
were
actually
going
to
treat.
Will
this
15
million
dollars
then
treat
all
identified
cases
and
all
inmates
that
are
projected
to
be
treated.
I
Yes,
ma'am
there'll
be
for
the
record
russell
medical
administrator.
This
will
be
in
perpetuity
going
forward.
This,
the
15
million
allocation
will
will
get
us
through
fiscal
year
23,
based
upon
the
the
costs
we've
identified
in
estimate,
great.
H
A
A
D
A
K
Sorry,
okay,
that's
okay,
tanya
brown
advocates
for
the
inmates
and
the
innocent.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
carlton,
and
the
members
of
this
committee.
We
are
in
strong
support
of
this
bill.
K
K
He
was
to
start
treatment
for
his
hep
c.
However,
he
was
transferred
to
another
institution
which
delayed
his
hep
c
treatment,
which
was
the
interferon
for
two
years.
He
was
sent
back
to
nncc
to
begin
the
treatment
during
the
process
it
had
to
stop.
It
was
actually
too
late
and
they
had
to
stop
it
and
what
became
of
this.
Ultimately,
he
had
come
into
the
prison
system
in
1989
he
had
been
wrongfully
convicted
just
prior
to
his
death.
All
the
evidence,
excupatory
evidence
was
found
hiding
in
the
washoe
county
district
attorney's
file
on
him
judge.
K
Brent
adams
ordered
the
district
attorney
mr
gamma,
to
turn
over
the
file
when
it
did
all
the
evidence
was
discovered,
as
his
attorneys
were
getting
ready
to
file
motions
for
new
trial
and
bail.
My
brother,
mr
klein,
died
for
lack
of
medical
care,
lack
of
treatment
for
hep
c,
so
I
do
not
want
another
family
to
go
through
what
we
had
done
if
he
had
received
the
proper
treatment
and
gotten
the
interferon
and
when
he
was
supposed
to.
Instead
the
delays,
the
delays
and
the
delays
he
would
be
alive
today.
K
A
B
Happy
to
do
so,
so
the
shared
radio
system
is
a
public-private
partnership
with
two
other
infrastructure
owners.
Nv
energy,
which
maintains
the
system
in
clark
county,
as
well
as
other
sites
throughout
the
state
and
washoe
county,
which
maintains
the
system
in
urban
washoe.
County
ndot
also
maintains
sites
throughout
the
state
focusing
on
roadways
combined.
The
system
has
113
sites
and
supports
approximately
12
000
users,
including
state
federal
local
government
agencies,
who
use
the
state
the
system
for
emergency
services
and
in
support
of
their
daily
operations.
B
The
system
also
also
often
provides
coverage
when
and
where
cellular
coverage
is
unavailable
and
supports.
Other
ndot
devices,
such
as
our
dynamic
message
signs
our
road
weather
information
systems,
roadside
emergency
call
boxes
and
chain
control
signs.
B
F
B
All
standards
for
digital
radio,
communications
for
use
by
federal
state
and
local
public
safety
organizations
in
north
america.
These
standards
enabled
interoperability,
communication
between
agencies
and
mutual
aid
response
teams
in
emergencies,
and
we
appreciate
your
support
in
the
past
of
this
project
and
program
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
more
questions.
Any
questions
you
may
have,
and
I
have
a
couple
of
other
experts
on
the
on
the
zoom
with
me
in
case.
I
can't
answer
your
questions.
A
B
B
Jennings
for
the
record,
we
started
this
project
in
2019
and
we
did
that
via.
If
we
also
requested
funding
last
biennium
for
2021
and
the
project
is
expected
to
continue
through
2024.
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
just
a
quick
one
just
so
I
understand
why
the
balance,
how
do
we
determine
how
much
comes
out
of
the
highway
fund
and
how
much
comes
out
of
general
fund
just
just
kind
of
wondering
why
the
why
the
balance
is
that
way.
B
Felicia
yeah
hi
felicia
denney,
for
the
record.
When
we
started
this
project,
we
were
asked
by
the
legislature
via
a
letter
to
meet
with
lcb
and
the
governor's
finance
office,
to
come
up
with
a
methodology
to
ensure
that
we
were
fairly
supporting
this
with
the
correct
funding.
And
so
the
formula
we
came
up
with
is
based
upon
usage,
primarily
for
the
infrastructure
portion
and
the.
E
B
B
The
highway
fund
were
excuse,
me
oops,
I
don't
have
the
latest,
but
but
when
we
started
they
were
around
in
90
10
and
then
we
also
based
the
subscriber
equipment
upon
actual
cost.
A
And
thank
you
and
if,
if
I
remember
correctly,
some
agencies
with
as
as
they
are
general
funded,
would
need
to
appropriate
general
funds,
but
others
since
they're,
based
like
our
highway
patrol
based
in
highway
fund
that
the
dollars
would
come
from
that
direction.
So
are
there
any
other
questions
from
any
committee
members
on
that
at
this
time,.
A
A
C
C
The
division
of
information
technology
is
requesting
a
highway
fund
appropriation
of
twenty
three
thousand
six
hundred
seventy
seven
dollars
for
the
replacement
of
the
duo,
digipass
security
application
and
ups
battery
backup
units.
The
division
of
information
technologies
is
also
requesting
a
highway
fund
appropriation
of
six
hundred
forty
five
thousand.
Seventy
eight
dollars
for
the
replacement
of
computer
hardware
and
software
and
associated
equipment.
C
Finally,
the
division
of
field
services
is
seeking
a
highway
fund
appropriation
of
seven
hundred
forty
five
thousand
six
hundred
thirty
two
dollars
for
the
replacement
of
computer
hardware
and
software.
L
Thank
you
for
hearing
abc's
v8
tonight
and
this
bill.
I
Just
allows
us
to
replace
equipment
that
is
at
the
end
of
its
useful
life
and
out
of
warranty,
which
can
affect
our
efficiency,
which
ultimately
can
affect
our
customer
service.
So
we
appreciate
your
time
and
can
answer
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
Staff
walk
through
every
amount
and
everything
that
we've
got
so
I'll,
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
for
questions.
Assemblywoman,
peters.
Thank
you.
Madam.
B
Chair,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
ask
a
clarifying
question:
are
these
costs
only
for
the
hardware
and.
B
To
I.t
efforts
to
get
you
yours
to
get
these
hardware
and
software
set
up
and
have
folks
get
get
up
to
speed
on
them.
I
A
A
468,
don't
believe
so
so
with
that
we'll
go
to
broadcast
services,
do
we
have
anyone
on
the
phone
lines
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
ab468.
N
N
A
C
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
we
have
someone
from
the
secretary
of
state's
office
good
evening,
madam
secretary
nice,
to
see
you
and
your
team.
You
came
up
a
little
short
this
time
around,
so
you
want
to
want
to
give
us
a
30,
000
foot
view
and
we'll
go
from
there.
J
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
and
good
evening,
chair
carlton
and
members
of
the
assembly
committee
on
ways
and
means
for
the
record.
I
am
the
nevada
secretary
of
state,
barbara
sagaski
and
joining
me
from
carson
are
scott
anderson.
My
chief
deputy
deputy
for
commercial
recording
is
kimberly.
Parande
and
deputy
for
elections
is
mark.
Valashen
deputy
for
operations
is
debbie
bowman
and
sherry
hutter.
Our
administrative
service
officer
3,
is
with
us.
J
So
if
you
have
questions,
they
are
very
talented-
and
we
are
here
this
evening
to
present
assembly
bill
469,
which
makes
an
appropriation
to
the
office
of
the
secretary
of
state
for
projected
shortfall
related
to
the
credit
card
processing
fees.
Madam
chair,
as
you
and
many
of
the
committee
members
are
well
aware,
credit
card
processing
fees
have
been
an
issue
since
the
state
accepted
credit
cards
for
payment
for
state
services.
J
The
estimation
of
credit
card
discount
fees
as
we
prepare
this
budget
has
always
been
difficult
and
we
have
done
our
best
to
account
for
the
increased
usage,
but
this
year's
usage
has
been
even
greater
than
we
could
have
ever
imagined
and
regardless
of
our
estimates,
we
are
only
allowed
the
base
year
of
allocations
in
our
budget.
So
we
are
going
to
have
to
ask
to
for
your
help
in
this
shortfall
as
credit
card
usage
increases
and
the
vendor
fees
also
increase.
J
We
come
before
you
this
evening
to
request
your
approval
of
ab469
to
appropriate
funds
to
this
credit
card
processing
fees
that
are
a
necessary
cost
of
providing
the
filing
services
in
our
office.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
time
in
consideration
this
evening
and
my
staff
remains
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members,.
A
Thank
you.
Madam
secretary
credit
card
fees
have
been
an
elusive
animal
in
this
system
for
a
while,
I'm
not
sure
the
public
realizes
there
is
a
cost
to
the
convenience
and
it's
hard
to
peg
it.
So
we
go
through
this
every
couple
of
years
trying
to
figure
it
out.
Thank
you
very
much
committee
members,
any
questions
of
the
secretary
of
state
on
this
particular
item,
not
seeing
any
thank
you
and
your
team
for
being
here
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
that
is
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
469.
Madam
secretary,
thank
you
and
your
team
for
being
here
this
evening.
I
had
hoped
that
you
and
I
and
the
years
we
spent
in
this
building,
could
have
got
this
thing
straightened
out,
but
we're
just
going
to
have
to
leave
it
for
the
next
generation
to
fix.
So
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
469.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly,
bill
470
makes
a
supplemental
general
fund
appropriation
of
four
hundred
and
eighty
one
thousand
nine
hundred
and
twenty
dollars
to
the
real
estate
division
of
the
department
of
business
and
industry
for
a
projected
shortfall
relating
to
time
share
filing
fees.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we
have
someone
from
the
real
estate
division
available
so
with
that
committee
members.
What
I'll
do
is
I'll
go
to
them
and
if
you
could
just
kind
of
give
us
a
brief
explanation
of
your
shortfall,
I
think
I
can
make
a
pretty
good
guess,
but
if
you'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
put
it
on
the
record.
E
Again,
this
is
for
a
481
920
000
projected
revenue
shortfall,
we've
provided
you
with
a
high
level,
exhibit
for
the
committee
just
to
review
and
kind
of,
hopefully
give
you
an
idea
of
why
we're
here,
budget
account
3823
is
where
the
shortfall
is,
and
this
relies
heavily
on
timeshare
licenses
and
also
timeshare
filing
fees
and
with
the
shutdown
and
the
vegas
market
that
the
time
shares
rely
heavily
on
we've
had
a
big,
it
has
a
big
impact
on
our
recollection.
E
We
also
have
a
quick
revenue
a
comparison
for
year
over
year
on
those
slides,
also
that
you
have.
That
shows
you
the
kind
of
the
big
gap
that
we
suffered
and
so
essentially
we're
here
in
front
of
you
just
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
appropriation
to
fill
the
gap
and
we
anticipate
a
robust
recovery
with
everything
opening
back
up.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
committee
members.
Are
there
any
questions
of
mr
chandra
at
this
time,
not
seeing
any
questions,
excellent
explanation
with
that?
We'll
go
ahead,
and
this
is
the
hearing
for
assemblyville
470
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up.
Is
there
anyone
on
zoom
wishing
to
testify
on
assembly
bill
470.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
don't
believe
we
have
anything
else
that
we
need
on
470.
Thank
you
very
much
to
the
division
for
being
available
this
evening
to
answer
our
questions
and
give
us
the
overview
overview,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
470
and
we
will
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
473.
C
A
A
Hey,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
when
we
come
up
with
a
nice
round
number
like
this.
I
always
tend
to
ask
a
few
questions.
You
should
have
thrown
in
11
cents
in
there
and
you
probably
would
have
had
me
hook
line
and
sinker.
A
A
A
B
You,
madam
chair
and
I
have
to
confess
when
I
first
read
this.
I
read
it
as
inmate
driven
food
costs,
which
may
be
the
case,
but
I
was
just
curious
because
I
have
heard
actually
some
concerns
raised
about
some
very
various
dietary
needs
and
so
forth.
But
could
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on?
What's
inmate
driven
and
then
what
the
food
costs
are
that
we're
taking
a
look
at.
I
I
can
sorry
james
jones
for
the
record
the
food
costs.
Food
prices
have
gone
up
significantly
recently,
which
caused
the
shortfall
and,
as
far
as
the
other
items
that
are
included
in
there,
I
do
not
have
those
in
front
of
me.
A
We'll
get
those
assemblywoman
tools
we'll
make
sure
that
everyone
has
the
answers
to
that,
and
if
you
could
please,
mr
jones,
if
you
haven't
already
sent
it
to
our
staff,
please
do
and
we'll
take
it
from
there.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
don't
believe
we
need
to
make
any
closing
remarks.
We
have
information
coming
to
us
to
finalize
the
numbers
on
this
and
then
the
committee
will
take
it
up
then
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
473
and
we
will
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill.
474,
miss
kaufman.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly,
bill
474
provides
a
general
fund
appropriation
of
17
million
472
208
for
the
continuation
of
the
technology,
modernization
project
for
the
child
support
enforcement
program.
It
also
authorizes
thirty,
four
thousand
three
hundred
sixteen
thousand
three
hundred,
and
sixteen
thousand
excuse
me.
Thirty.
Four
million
three
hundred
sixteen
thousand
six
hundred
thirty
eight
dollars
in
non-general
fund
revenues
again
for
the
support
of
the
child
support
enforcement
program.
A
I
Sure,
good
evening,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
I'm
steve
fisher,
I
serve
as
administrator
for
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services,
and
I
have
with
me
this
evening
some
experts
that
are
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
I
may
not
be
able
to
answer
the
funding
for
this
particular
bill.
It
will
be
used
to
continue
the
replacement
of
our
old,
very
old,
antiquated
child
support
enforcement
system,
which
was
built
on
circa
1980
technology.
I
It's
very
difficult
to
maintain
very
difficult
to
use
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
the
program
currently
supports
about
81
000
cases
over
120
000
children.
This
particular
project
was
approved
during
the
2017
legislative
session.
It's
a
six
and
a
half
year
project.
We
have
completed
all
phases
of
the
project
through
the
development
phase.
I
I
I
I'm
also
happy
to
report
that
this
project
is
on
time.
It's
a
within
scope
and
we
are
certainly
within
budget
and
with
that,
madam
chair
I'll,
certainly
open
it
up
for
any
questions
that
the
committee
might
have.
A
Thank
you,
mr
fischer.
It's
nice
to
have
some
good
news
every
once
in
a
while
when
it
comes
to
some
of
these
projects.
So
with
that
committee
members,
are
there
any
questions
of
mr
fisher
at
this
time,
this
one
was
started
in
2017
and
it
looks
like
we're
getting
ready
to
round
the
curve
on
it.
So
no
seeing
no
questions.
A
A
D
B
Calling
in
support
of
ab474
good
evening,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
assembly,
the
clark
county
family
support
division
manages
over
45
000
cases.
We
are
currently
in
the
testing
phase,
and
I
can
testify
with
certainty.
This
upgrade
will
positively
impact
both
child
support
collections
and
lead
to
improved
customer
service.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you
very
much
with
that
we've
had
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
474..
I
don't
believe
there
are
any
closing
comments.
Thank
you
again,
mr
fisher
and
your
team
for
being
available
to
us
this
evening.
We
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
474..
Thank
you
very
much
so
committee
members
that
takes
care
of
the
administration
bills
that
we
had
listed
for
this
evening.
A
We
will
go
back
and
now
start
working
on
some
of
the
other
bills
that
were
referred
to
the
committee
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
we're
going
to
hold
116
till
the
end.
A
M
assembly
bill
192
was
a
bill
that
came
out
of
the
interim
committee
on
health
and
human
services
and
with
with
us
on
the
zoom
to
answer.
Questions
are
julia
peek,
the
deputy
administrator
of
dhhs
and
elizabeth
kessler,
the
std
program
manager
for
dpbh
of
dhhs,
so
according
to
the
centers
for
disease
control
and
prevention
or
the
cdc
sexually
transmitted,
diseases,
can
cause
pregnancy
complications
and
results
in
serious
consequences
for
both
mothers
and
developing
babies
in
2019.
M
We
also
had
the
second
highest
rates
of
congenital
syphilis
and
that's
when
a
mother
passes
with
syphilis
passes
it
along
to
the
baby
during
pregnancy,
and
the
trends
haven't
been
getting
better
for
us
over
the
last
few
years.
According
to
the
cdc,
nevada
saw
a
289
percent
increase
in
congenital
syphilis
between
2015
and
2018,
and
it's
not
just
affecting
us
as
far
as
the
children
being
being
ill.
M
It's
it's
financially
impacting
us
from
2015
to
2019
at
umc,
approximately
or
umc
accounted
for
half
of
the
congenital
syphilis
births
in
clark
county
and
they
provided
the
the
subsequent
treatment
and
oversight
for
the
children
that
were
born
and
their
mothers.
M
One
article
from
the
infectious
diseases
in
children
publication
found
that
compared
with
hospitalization
for
other
conditions.
Infants
hospitalized
with
congenital
syphilis
had
longer
average
length
of
stay
and
then
also
the
total
charges
for
children
with
congenital
syphilis
related
to
hospitalization
was
was
more
than
doubled
during
the
study
period.
M
But
the
good
news
is
that
both
syphilis
and
congenital
syphilis
are
preventable.
Syphilis
can
be
cured
with
antibiotics
and
congenital
syphilis
can
be
treated,
so
the
key
to
treatment
is,
and
prevention
is
ensuring
that
moms
are
tested
for
syphilis
and
receive
prenatal
care,
while
moms
are
pregnant
with
these
children.
So
that's
where
abe
192
comes
in,
which
aims
to
align
nevada's,
std
testing
requirements
with
cdc
recommendations
and
I'll.
Also
let
you
know
that
I
did
accept
a
conceptual
amendment
from
the
american
college
of
emergency
physicians.
M
The
nevada
chapter-
that's
in
section
three
sub
one:
it's
just
adding
the
word
willfully
before
violating
so
that
the
the
bill
would
read
any
person
or
entity
willfully
violating
any
of
the
provisions
of
nrs,
442.01,
etc
will
be
assessed.
The
civil
penalty,
which
I
unfortunately
didn't,
have
the
opportunity
to
get
the
amendment
ready
and
I
can
address
that
later
as
the
bill
proceeds.
But
I
did
want
to
make
sure
that
that
was
out
there
that
I
had
agreed
to
that
with
the
american
college
of
emergency
physicians,
nevada,
chapter.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Miss
cohen,
doing
amendments
like
this
are
as
a
little
all
of
our
world,
but
we
know
it.
It
does
happen.
So
if
you
could,
please
repeat
that,
so
that
we
have
a
clear
record,
you
said
section
three.
M
So
section
three
sub
one:
yes
and
it's
just
adding
the
word
willfully
in
the
first
line
between
entity
and
violating,
and
certainly
if
it's,
if
it's
the
committee's
preference,
I
can
work
on
that
amendment
as
the
bill.
If
the
bill
proceeds
as
the
bill
proceeds
we'll.
A
Discuss
that
with
staff
and
figure
out
the
best
path
forward,
we
want
to
make
it
as
clean
as
possible.
So
since
you're
here
we
can
have,
we
can
continue
to
have
that
conversation,
but
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
dollars
in
the
bill,
and
I
believe
we
received
an
email
from
pebb
indicating
that
the
bill
would
not
have
a
fiscal
impact.
A
So
we'd
like
pub
on
the
record,
if
it's
possible,
they're,
available
and
also
we'd
like
to
know
and
make
sure
that
we're
clear
with
medicaid
if
met,
if
there's
a
fiscal
impact
in
the
medicaid
budget.
So
pebb
are
you
available.
A
B
A
B
A
A
D
G
M-A-Y-E-R
for
the
record
partner
with
our
gentleman
partners,
testifying
today
on
behalf
of
the
seven
of
the
health
district.
This
bill
is
extremely
important
because
nevada
ranks
either
one
or
two
most
of
the
time
in
syphilis
and
congenital
syphilis
cases.
So
this
bill
was
kind
of
came
out
of
a
visit
from
the
cec
and
some
of
their
recommendations
on
what
we
can
do
to
combat
the
syphilis
in
nevada.
And
so
we
urge
your
support
of
ab192.
D
D
O
O
The
importance
of
this
issue,
and,
as
stated
in
the
testimony
by
assemblyman
cohen
umc,
does
see
a
lot
of
these
cases.
It
is.
We
are
especially
impacted
because
we
have
about
90
percent
of
our
perinatal
patients
are
medicaid
patients.
We
will
work
with
the
state
on
this,
madam
chair.
We
will
build
private
insurance
for
these
costs,
where
we
can
and
try
and
work
with
the
state
on
further
mitigation
of
the
cost
of
umc.
So
I
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record
here
today
and
we
understand
the
important
public
health
issues
at
hand.
Thank.
A
B
O
Madam
chair,
through
you
to
assembly
mentors
assemblywoman
tools,
assemblyman
told
I
have
not
conferred
with
the
other
counties.
So
really.
I
think
that
the
issue
that
you're
seeing
that
clark
county
is
the
one
who
filed
the
fiscal
notes,
because
we
we
are
the
only
county
that
funds
the
public
health,
the
public
hospital
in
the
state
from
umc.
They
did
a
very
detailed
analysis
of
the
cost
of
the
test.
So
as
as
was
testified
in
the
hearing,
there
are
some
really
impacts
for
the
state.
I
guess
on
the
cost
of
a
nicu
baby.
G
B
O
B
A
A
A
A
A
I
I
In
short,
it
provides
or
requiring
employing
agencies
of
first
responders
law
enforcement,
firefighters
and
correctional
officers
to
do
two
things.
One
provide
information
at
their
place
in
employments,
on
information
dealing
with
mental
health,
post-traumatic
stress
suicide
prevention,
mainly
alcoholism,
and
then
two
upon
retirement
within
three
months
of
retirement,
to
provide
time
with
the
mental
health
professional
to
just
discuss
and
deal
with
those
same
issues
to
recognize
them,
and
so
the
retiring
first
responders
can
hopefully
enjoy
the
retirement
in
a
much
better
manner.
I
A
A
Okay,
but
the
other
fiscal
notes
that
stand
for
the
localities
are
all
still
current.
Have
you
been
talking
with
them
to
see
if
there's
a
way
for
them
to
lower
their
notes,
even
though
they
don't
impact
general
fund?
We
understand
that
we
still
like
to
do
our
due
diligence
in
working
with
the
entities
that
are
impacted
by
bills.
I
A
A
Cannot
adequately
determine
a
fiscal
impact
to
the
bill
to
the
agency,
the
agency
doesn't
have
sufficient
evidence
indicating
how
many
retiring
officers
that
would
likely
have
to
service
to
this
bill,
so
we'll
have
to
do
a
little
more
work
on
that,
but
if
there
is
something
from
them,
if
you
can
make
sure
that
staff
gets
it
to
attach
to
the
bill.
A
Please
send
it
to
us
and
we'll
make
sure
we
get
it
dealt
with.
If
you
have
any
issues
reach
out
to
me
I'll
make
sure
to
walk
you
through
the
system.
So
with
that
you
had
another
amendment,
assemblyman.
I
Yes,
chair,
I'm
working
with
clark
county
dealing
with
section
1,
1
b.
It
authorizes
the
employer
to
make
available
to
the
police
officer
firefighter
or
correctional
officer
a
peer
support
program
which
could
be
used
to
satisfy
the
two
hours
of
mental
health
professionals
that
are
set
forth
in
the
bill.
I
A
Thank
you,
some
of
the
men
I
I
won't
get
into
a
depaul
policy
debate
with
you,
but
we
know
technically
in
some
areas
category
one
is
not
that
much
different
than
category
two
at
times,
they're
riding
in
the
same
car
with
each
other,
so
we'll
I'll.
Just.
A
At
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that
for
the
moment,
but
please
do
continue
to
work
and
let
us
know
which
direction
you
would
like
to
proceed
when
we,
when
we
get
to
that
juncture
and
make
sure
you
send
the
other
documents
to
us
so
committee
members
at
this
time,
does
anyone
have
any
questions
for
assemblyman
o'neal
on
assembly
bill
315.,
not
seeing
any
questions
from
committee
members
with
that
this
is
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
315,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up.
A
D
D
D
G
Good
evening,
madam
chairwoman
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
tom,
tlm,
last
name
dunn,
d-u-n-n,
representing
the
professional
firefighters
of
nevada
ab-492
from
the
2019
session
clarified
under
statute.
That
ptsd
is
an
occupational
health
and
safety
issue
for
public
safety
professionals.
G
G
D
N
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Those
in
opposition,
please.
D
O
Good
evening
madam
chair
joanna
jacob
j-o-a-n-n-a-j-a-c-o-b
government
affairs
manager
for
clark
county
again
good
evening
again,
madam
care
to
you
in
the
committee,
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
the
efforts
of
assembly,
one
assemblyman
o'neal.
He
has
been
working
with
clark
county
as
he
stated
to
try
and
get
our
heads
around
just
the
cost.
To
providing
these
services,
we
fund
a
share
of
metro's
costs.
Madam
chair,
we.
K
O
Fund
clark,
county
detention
center
with
the
extent
and
clark
county
fire,
so
with
the
amendment
in
the
assembly
to
extend
the
scope
of
the
bill
to
detention
officers,
which
is
the
assemblyman's
intent.
We
are
revising
our
fiscal
note
because
it
will
cover
the
correctional
officers
at
clark
county
detention
center.
I
believe
that
may
have
been
emailed
to
your
committee
council,
madam
chair,
but
our
original
fiscal
note
was
nine
thousand
dollars
per
each
year
of
the
biennium
for
fire.
O
We
have
revised
that
to
forty
six
thousand,
eight
hundred
and
thirty
nine
dollars
per
each
year
of
the
biennium,
and
I
will
get
that
formally
documented.
Madam
chair,
for
purposes
of
your
committee.
We
are,
though,
working
with
assemblyman
neil
on
how
to
address
these
costs
for
the
county.
It
is
an
important
issue.
We
we
are
in
support
of
behavioral
health
services
for
our
first
responders,
so
we
will
continue
to
work
with
him.
I'm
sure.
Thank
you.
A
A
O
I'm
sorry
I'm
hearing
some
echo,
but
that
is
to
the
best
of
our
ability,
venom
chair,
based
on
our
current
estimates
of
rate
of
retirement
and
everything
that
we
are
trying
to
guesstimate.
I
guess,
as
we
are
compiling
these
fiscal
notes,
so
we
will
continue
to
refine
that
as
we
continue
to
work
with
assemblyman
neil
o'neill
through
the
through
the
amendment
process.
But
yes,
that
is
correct.
That
is
what
was
given
to
me
by
our
fiscal
analyst.
Madam
chair.
A
A
This
is
something
that
I
would
look
in
that
direction
to
address,
since
we've
heard
from
other
entities
that
they're
rolling,
theirs
back
and
or
eliminating
them,
they've
figured
out
a
way,
so
I'm
sure
clark
county
is
smart
enough
to
figure
out
a
way
to
handle
it
also,
so
thank
you
very
much
and
we
look
forward
to
getting
future
numbers
from
you.
Thank
you.
A
A
You
very
much
and
thank
you
assemblyman
o'neil,
that's
the
hearing
on
315..
Please
continue
to
work
on
it
and
I
look
forward
to
having
a
conversation
with
you
in
the
near
future
on
what
we
need
to
do
to
address
some
of
the
issues
in
the
bill.
So
thank
you
for
presenting
the
bill
this
evening
and
we'll
move
on
from
there.
Okay.
A
A
Q
Q
First,
it
changes
some
of
the
requirements
for
certain
types
of
classic
vehicle
plates
in
order
to
close
loopholes
where
by
vehicles
that
are
not
hobbyist
or
special
event,
vehicles
have
gained
these
plates
to
avoid
compliance
with
smog
checks,
so
it
creates
a
requirement
for
a
specific
classic
vehicle
insurance
policy
and
clarifies
the
statute
that
these
vehicles
cannot
be
used
for
general
transportation
or
commercial
purposes.
Q
So
some
of
these
changes
to
the
classic
plate
programs
may
come
with
some
additional
compliance
changes
from
the
department,
but
are
also
expected
to
bring
in
some
additional
revenue
from
some
of
those
smog.
Related
fees
as
vehicles,
potentially
upwards
of
20
000
that
have
been
avoiding
smog
checks
are
brought
back
into
the
system.
Q
Happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
Thank
you.
A
A
So
if
I'm
looking
at
all
of
this
correctly,
it
appears
as
though
there's
estimates
of
a
total
2.3
million
in
additional
revenues
generated
in
22
and
4.8
million,
possibly
generated
in
23
and
the
cost
or
expenses
involved
in
dealing
that
with
this
would
be
5816
and
22,
and
3468
and
23
dealing
with
regulations
and
adding
a
new
position
to
verify
the
classic
vehicle
insurance
endorsements.
Q
Thank
you
for
that
question,
madam
chair
and
I'll,
give
a
brief
answer
and
then
may
turn
it
over
to
mr
decker
with
the
dmv
to
provide
some
additional
clarity.
So
there
are
specific
classic
vehicle
insurance
policies.
These
policies
require
things
like
an
appraisal
to
set
a
mutually
agreed
upon
value
of
the
vehicle
storage
requirements.
Q
Higher
enforcement
of
mileage
standards,
and
essentially
the
the
benefit
of
those
policies
for
true
hobby
vehicles
that
are
being
driven
very
rarely,
is
that
it
ensures,
if
anything
happens,
when
that
vehicle
is
out,
that
it
can
get
the
the
coverage
that
it
needs,
and
sometimes
the
premiums
are
actually
less
because
they
know
the
vehicle
is
being
driven,
less
only
being
taken
out
for
exhibitions
or
or
other
occasions
such
as
that.
So
you
know
for
most
vehicles
the
dmv
just
checks
to
make
sure
that
there
is
proof
of
general
coverage
under
the
provisions
of
this
bill.
Q
In
order
to
have
three
specific
types
subtypes
of
classic
license
plate,
they
would
need
to
demonstrate
that
they
have
a
policy
that
falls
within
this
classic
vehicle
insurance
category,
and
so
the
dmv
would
need
to
do
some
additional
work
to
make
sure
that
they
have
a
policy
that
would
be
considered
as
as
classic
and
with
that.
If
you
have,
if
you'd
like
some
additional
clarity,
I'd
turn
it
over
to
the
dmv.
A
Understand
the
general
definition
and
purpose
behind
behind
that
so
committee
members,
questions
of
mr
watts
at
this
time
not
seeing
anyone
did
you
have
anyone
you
wish
to
have
present
with
you,
mr
watts,.
Q
A
I
do
have
a
question
if
I
may
you've
peaked
my
curiosity
on
the
remote
emissions
in
a
county
over
a
hundred
thousand
a
remote
sensing
system
to
test
the
emissions
from
a
motor
vehicle
being
operated
on
a
highway.
A
So
I
I
know
we're
getting
a
little
off
the
fiscal
side,
but
if
we're
going
to
do
something
like
that,
I'm
sure
there's
some
equipment,
that's
going
to
be
needed.
So
is
there
a
cost
involved
in
this
and
what
is
the
actual
goal
behind
it?
And
will
this
system
lead
to
citations,
or
will
it
just
lead
to
folks
getting
registered
the
appropriate
way.
E
Compliance
enforcement
division-
that's
an
excellent
question-
I
I
would
say
currently
the
vendor.
There
were
a
couple
vendors
that
offer
the
remote
fencing
system
they
own
and
operate
the
equipment.
Currently,
the
idea
is
that
they
would
set
up
their
own
equipment
oftentimes,
it's
a
mobile
portable,
but
it
can
be
permanently
placed
and
that
type
of
thing
they
set
up
the
equipment
and
the
equipment
automatically
reads
the
emissions
of
vehicles.
E
I
believe
that
the
idea
currently
in
this
bill
is
to
enable
the
remote
sensi
sensing
system
to
augment
or
replace
the
current
emissions
testing.
That's
done
at
an
emissions
station.
So
currently,
if
you
live
in
washoe
or
clark
county
every
year,
you
have
to
go
down
to
an
emissions
station
and
receive
a
smog
check.
The
remote
sensing
can
read
a
vehicle
as
it
passes
by
the
equipment
on
the
freeway.
E
The
company
theoretically
would
make
a
return
on
their
investment
through
notifying
the
dmv
that
a
specific
vehicle
its
plate
was
read.
Its
emissions
were
read
that
info
was
sent
to
the
department
and
for
a
fee.
The
operator
or
registered
owner
of
the
vehicle
can
pay
a
fee
to
the
vendor
and
use
that
remote
sensing
data
in
lieu
of
the
smog
check.
A
More
questions,
but
they
don't
deal
with
the
fiscal,
so
I
will
not
take
the
committee's
time
on
this
one,
but
I
will
have
continued
conversations
with
mr
watts
and
the
proponents,
but
I
will
ask
again,
though,
we're
talking
about
working
with
the
company
we'll,
so
we
will
not
be.
A
E
Jd
decker
for
the
record,
madam
chair
question:
the
there
would
be
no
cost
to
the
state.
There
would
be
no
contract
to
the
state
other
than
enabling
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
to
receive
the
data
collected
by
by
the
company,
the
any
transaction
any
monetary
transaction
would
be
between
the
vendor,
operating
the
equipment
and
the
registered
owner
of
the
vehicle
who
may
or
may
not
choose
to
accept
that
that
remote
defense
smog
check.
E
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
to
add
a
little
bit
of
additional
clarification.
The
bill
as
it's
currently
written
is
permissive,
so
it
would
allow
the
dmv
to
go
through
a
regulatory
process
that
would
outline
the
framework
of
exactly
how
this
program
would
work.
What
what
costs,
including
any
potential
convenience
fee,
might
be
associated
with
it.
If
it
were
to
be
stood
up
and
the
intent
is,
it
would
be
an
alternative,
not
a
replacement
to
the
current
emissions
check
system.
Q
So
it's
it's
something
that
would
then
go
through
a
process
with
the
department
to
see
to
determine
if
this
is
something
that
they
would
like
to
move
forward
on
and
if
so
how
it
would
be
structured.
But
yes,
as
mr
deckard
noted,
the
proponents
have
indicated
that
they
would
be
providing
the
equipment,
so
there
would
not
be
additional
upfront
costs
to
the
state
in
terms
of
that
infrastructure.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
decker,
for
being
here
this
evening.
We
appreciate
it
with
that.
Mr
krueger,
were
you
presenting,
or
are
you
in
support
in
support,
so
I'll
go
to
in
support
in
the
room
go
ahead
and
come
on
up
mr
krueger.
H
Thank
you,
chair
carlton,
at
this
late
hour,
I'll
say
that
the
I'm
peter
krueger,
representing
the
nevada
emissions
testers
council,
the
men
and
women
who
perform
in
brick
and
mortar
stations
the
emissions
test
that
we
all
we
all
are
at
least
in
clark
and
washoe,
are
subject
to.
As
I
say,
we're
in
support,
especially
two
provisions
we
can
really
get
behind,
of
course,
is
the
classic
car
loophole.
H
I
I
will
say
as
a
parting
shot,
we'd
love
to
talk
about
remote
sensing,
because
our
industry
thinks
that
we'll
duke
it
out
with
those
that
want
to
offer
that
in
regulation.
But
we
are
in
support
of
the
bill,
but
replacing
brick
and
mortar
stations
with
the
some
g-whiz
bang
machinery
that
the
wind
can
blow
the
dust-
and
we
believe
is
not
accurate
in
in
that
sense.
But
we'll
do
get
that
that
out.
Madam
chairman,
in
the
appropriate
place,
and
we
are
in
support,
thank
you.
A
D
N
Good
evening,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
this
is
andrew,
mckay
a-n-d-r-e-w
m-a-c-k-a-y,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada
franchise,
auto
dealers
association.
I
I
know
you
have
a
bunch
of
work
left
to
do
so.
I
will
be
very
brief.
First
want
to
thank
assemblyman
watts
for
the
work
that
he
has
put
in
on
this
bill.
N
The
changes
are
to
say
they're,
probably
overdue,
as
an
understatement,
with
respect
to
the
fees-
and
I
think,
that's
probably
most
appropriate
on
what
we
talked
about
since
this
is
the
money
committee
is.
Mr
kruger
stated
that
this
is.
This
is
true
enough
fees
for
something
that
are
decades
old
and
his
assemblyman
watts
said
one
of
them
hasn't
been
changed
for
over
40
years.
N
If
the
committee
has
any
questions
I'll
bail
myself
to
answer
them,
but
I
just
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
we
fully
support
ab349
and
thank
the
assemblyman
for
all
the
hard
work
that
he's
done.
Putting
this
together.
D
D
G
G
G
Just
recently,
clark
county
received
an
f
from
the
american
lung
association
for
ozone
pollution
and
was
named
17th
most
polluted
place
to
live
in
the
country.
This
is
especially
bad
for
our
older
nevadans
and
the
children
whose
lungs
are
still
developing,
especially
for
the
5
000
four
hundred
eighty
children
and
two
hundred
twenty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
and
eighty
five
adults
who
have.
K
G
In
nevada,
the
reports
also
found
that
the
people
of
color
are
three
times
more
likely
to
breathe
the
most
polluted
air
than
white
people.
An
av-349
is
an
important
solution
that
would
address
the
older,
more
polluting
vehicles
in
our
roads
by
closing
the
classic
car
loophole,
and
that
would
provide
a
pathway
for
low-income
communities
who
are
most
harmed
by
unhealthy
air
to
access
clearance,
forms
of
transportation
either.
I
G
Repairing
or
replacing
their
vehicles
with
assistance
from
the
county
programs,
this
latter
component
is
critical
to
make
sure
that
we
do
not
leave
low
income
nevadans
without
transportation.
As
we
make
sure
cars
on
our
roads
can
pass
small
checks.
The
funding
for
these
programs
will
come
from
the
modest
increase
to
the
small
check
fees
to
catch
up
with
the
inflation,
since
they
haven't
been
changed
in
many
years.
G
This
bill
has
brought
support
from
a
range
of
groups
from
public
health
organizations
to
business,
to
environmental
groups,
to
county
air
quality
and
health
departments.
We
hope
you'll
join
thousands
of
nevadans
who
are
asking
for
cleaner
air
to
breathe
by
supporting
ab349,
and
thank
you
for
hearing
it.
A
Thank
you
broadcast
services.
Anyone
else
in
support.
D
G
D
G
D
B
G-U-T-M-A-N-D-O-D-S-O-N
and
I'm
representing
the
washoe
county
health
district
tonight
in
particular
in
particular
the
air
quality
division
we
are
in.
We
are
in
support
of
this
bill
and
want
to
thank
assemblyman
watts
for
bringing
this
forward.
We've
been
looking
forward
to
a
classic
vehicle
loophole.
A
A
A
It
does
have
the
speaker's
name
on
it,
but
I
don't
believe
he
will
be
involved.
He
was
merely
the
vehicle
to
get
this
bill
where
we
are
so.
Ladies,
if
you
would
like
to
give
us
a
high
level
overview
of
what
we're
doing,
and
then
we
do
have
some
questions
that
we'd
like
to
address.
So
whoever
would
like
to
go
first.
R
Thank
you,
chair,
jessica,
dare
for
the
record,
I'm
also
joined
on
zoom
by
our
chief
financial
officer,
jessica
hoban.
We
appreciate
you
and
the
committee
hearing
this
bill
very
quickly.
Nearly
10
years
ago,
the
ag's
office
reached
several
settlements
with
perpetrators
of
the
mortgage
fraud
crisis
in
2008..
R
I
wanted
to
thank
lcb
fiscal
staff,
specifically
ms
kaufman
and
ms
waller,
for
working
with
us
on
some
technical
changes
to
the
bill,
and
we
did
submit
a
conceptual
amendment
to
lcb
last
week,
just
very
quickly
generally
settlement
funds
in
this
bill
should
it
be
passed.
Settlement
funds
received
by
the
attorney
general's
office
would
be
placed
in
a
consumer
protection
administrative
account.
R
There
would
be
some
exceptions,
such
as
restitution
to
victims
and
other
recoveries,
that
consumer
protection.
Administrative
account
replaces
the
account
already
in
existence
for
those
purposes,
and
then
the
bulk
of
the
funding
and
funds
not
used
for
administrative
purposes
would
then
be
transferred
from
the
consumer
protection.
Administrative
account
to
the
consumer
protection
legal
account.
R
R
The
other
50
would
go
to
fund
consumer
protection
efforts
by
the
three
legal
aid
nonprofit
organizations
specified
in
the
bill,
and
we
that
was
another
technical
change
that
we
submitted
with
the
amendment.
Those
organizations
are
the
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada,
nevada,
legal
services
and
washoe
legal
services,
and
the
distribution
in
the
bell
reflects
the
current
distribution
of
the
home.
Again,
funding
simply
put
this
bill
allows
us
to
continue
doing
our
jobs
to
serve
nevadans.
A
F
Questions
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
barbara
buckley,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada,
the
state's
largest
legal
aid
organization,
providing
free
legal
assistance
to
those
who
cannot
cannot
afford
an
attorney
in
civil
cases.
F
One
of
our
largest
programs
at
legal
aid
is
our
consumer
protection
unit.
In
our
system
of
law,
the
ag's
office
can
prosecute
cases
and
file
actions
against
wrongdoers
on
behalf
of
the
state,
but
it
cannot
represent
individuals
who
are
defrauded
and
if
you
cannot
afford
to
hire
an
attorney,
especially
when
you've
just
been
defrauded.
That's
where
legal
aid
comes
in
without
it,
someone
can
lose
their
life
savings,
their
home,
their
property,
their
shot
at
the
american
dream.
F
A
good
example
of
this
is
guardianship
fraud.
I
think
most
of
the
committee
members
recall
that
a
few
years
ago
we
had
predatory
guardians,
stripping
homes
and
life
savings
away
from
people
in
need.
The
attorney
general,
ultimately
prosecuted
a
number
of
cases,
legal
aid
steps
in
to
actually
help
remove
the
predatory
guardian
and
help
the
protected
person,
as
mentioned
by
the
by
jessica,
the
attorney
general's
office.
F
A
A
A
couple
of
the
concerns
that
the
committee
has
is
the
access
to
the
ifc
contingency
account
for
unforeseen
expenditures.
I
believe
the
conversation
in
the
bill
around
that
was
if
there
was
not
funding
for
staff.
Mr
dairy,
you
had
wanted
to
come
to
ifc
for
staff.
That's
something
we
typically
don't
do
usually
with
settlement
funds.
A
R
Thank
you,
chair
just
go!
Dare
for
the
record.
This
is
a
very
unique
proposal
and
it
is
unlike
any
other
way,
that
we
fund
staff
in
the
state.
Typically,
we
don't
use
settlement
funds
for
staff
at
all,
except
in
some
rare
circumstances,
so
why
it's
important
for
us
that
we
are
able
to
come
to
ifc
in
an
unexpected
emergency
shortfall,
because
the
service
that
is
provided
by
these
positions
is
going
to
never
go
away.
R
R
The
local
law
enforcement
agencies
do
not
perform
this
function
because
of
that,
we
believe
it
should
be
treated
differently,
though
I
I
understand
the
committee
committee's
hesitation
to
allow
the
ag's
office
to
come
essentially
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
a
bailout
from
ifc
because
of
the
potential
impact
on
general
fund.
I
would
say
that
the
impact
of
general
fund
for
just
using
general
funds
to
fund
these
positions
would
be
significantly
greater.
R
R
We
put
into
the
conceptual
amendment
number
one
a
requirement
that
the
ag's
office
fund,
the
staff
first
and
foremost
before
spending
it
on
any
other
purpose
and
second
that,
if
the
ag's
office
wanted
to
spend
settlement
funds
for
any
other
purpose
beyond
staff
that
it
had
to
have
120
days
in
operating
expenses
in
reserve.
R
The
other
thing
that
we
did
in
the
bill
is
to
ensure
that
those
funds
carry
forward
and
don't
revert
to
general
fund
at
the
end
of
the
year.
And
the
reason
for
that
is
that
we
can
keep
building
up
that
that
account
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
to
go
to
ifc
in
the
future.
But
if
10
15
years
from
now,
we
do
a
great
job
as
a
state
and
we
don't
have
settlement
funds,
because
all
the
companies
here
are
doing
a
great
job
of
protecting
consumers
and
not
violating
consumer
protection
laws.
R
We
still
want
to
be
able
to
have
some
assurance
for
our
staff
that
there
is
an
option
for
us
to
continue
to
fund
those
positions,
because
their
necessity
will
never
end.
That
being
said,
we
know
that
there
is
always
the
potential
that
we
can
be
turned
down.
So
if
the
ag's
office
has
not
been
managing
its
money
correctly
or
frankly,
the
ifc
does
not
have
the
money
in
the
contingency
account.
Even
if
we
had
done
a
good
job,
we
know
that
there
is
the
possibility
that
the
legislature
could
choose
not
to
fund
staff.
L
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
realize
this
is
somewhat
different
because
the
bill's
in
my
name,
but
I
I
have
made
clear
that
the
attorney
general
and
the
the
quite
frankly
generically
the
legal
aid
community
were
doing
the
heavy
lifting,
because
so
much
work
has
gone
into
this
effort
over
the
last
couple
of
sessions.
But
I
had
the
same
question
initially,
madam
chair,
that
you
had
about
the
unusual
mechanism,
but
it
became
apparent
to
me
and
I'm.
This
is
a
little
bit
long-winded.
L
But
I
would
like
for
mr
dare
to
correct
me
if
my
understanding
is
correct.
After
talking
that,
while
the
the
positions
are
being
paid
for
with
the
settlement
funds,
the
positions
are
being
used
to
advance
causes
of
consumer
protection
across
the
state,
regardless
of
the
settlement
funds,
and
so
there
would
be
a
hole
if
those
positions
weren't
weren't
if
those
positions
went
away.
Essentially,
so
I
have
two-part
question.
R
Thank
you
speaker,
yes,
jessica,
dear
for
the
record.
Yes,
you're,
absolutely
right.
R
The
specific
positions
that
we're
talking
about
are
a
couple
of
constituent
services,
folks,
who
answer
calls
and
complaints
on
scams
and
fraud,
attorneys
and
legal
support
staff
in
our
bureau
of
consumer
protection
and
investigators
and
prosecutors
who
investigate
and
prosecute
financial
fraud.
They
are
currently
restricted
to
only
do
working
in
areas
of
fraud
right
now
and
they
will
be
restricted
in
the
future.
So
this
would
not
be
supporting
other
activities
that
are
unrelated
to
fraud,
but,
like
you
said,
it
is
all
for
consumer
protection
efforts,
not
necessarily
for
consumer
related
to
one
specific
settlement.
L
Thank
thank
you,
ma'am
sharon.
If
I
can
follow
up
you,
mr,
dare
you
addressed
kind
of
another
point,
and
that
was
that
we
can
always
say
no
as
a
legislature
but
but
the
other
the,
and
I
apologize,
because
we
did
talk
extensively
about
this.
This
did
not
dawn
on
me
when
we
talked.
L
It
also
seems
to
me
that
this
would
allow
if,
for
whatever
unexpected
reason,
the
funds
ran
out
a
little
bit
of
transition
time
for
the
seeking
of
funds
in
an
alternative
way
to
be
able
to
maintain
these
positions
with
because,
as
you
stated,
there's
sporadic
with
respect
to
settlements,
and
so
if
there
wasn't
at
least
an
option
of
buying
some
time,
it
wouldn't
be
indefinite,
presumably
because
you'd
have
to
come
back
every
time,
but
at
least
this
would
allow
a
little
bit
of
time
to
transition
to
find
alternate
sources
of
funding,
or
at
least
reorganize,
so
that
you
would
be
able
to
maintain
the
effort
and
consumer
protection.
R
Thank
you,
speaker,
jessica.
Dare
for
the
record?
Yes,
you're,
absolutely
right,
and
what
we
didn't
want
to
do
is
put
in
our
budget
request
that
we're
gonna
need
x,
amount
of
dollars
in
general
fund,
just
in
case
because
number
one.
What
if
we
didn't
use
it
and
didn't
need
it.
R
That
would
mean
that
this
legislature
wouldn't
have
access
to
those
dollars
for
other
purposes,
and
we
just
thought
that
that
was
a
better
use
of
general
fund
is
just
in
a
just
in
case
circumstance
not
in
a
year
a
biennial
request
to
the
governors
in
the
governor's
recommended
budget
for
general
funds.
A
R
Jessica
there
for
the
record,
I
am
going
to
pass
that
over
to
cfo
jessica
hoeben,
but
I
want
to
be
clear
that
we
would
not
be
asking
ifc
to
fund
all
26
positions
at
one
time.
What
we
would
do
is
ensure
that
we
have
enough
money
to
cover
those
positions
and
ask
ifc
for
if
we
just
can't
quite
get
there
for
to
close
the
gap
until,
like
speaker,
ferguson,
said
to
buy
us
some
time.
R
Maybe
there's
another
settlement
on
the
horizon
that
we
could
that
we
can
access,
and
that's
also
why,
in
the
conceptual
amendment,
we
changed
the
transfer
from
the
administrative
fund
to
the
legal,
obscure.
I'm
sorry,
the
administrative
account
to
the
legal
account
to
twice
a
year
or
as
necessary
in
the
discretion
of
the
consumer
advocate.
So
we
didn't
have
funding
just
sitting
there
in
that
administrative
account
that
we
could
not
use,
but
if
jessica
holman
could
answer
the
yearly
or
or
biennial
cost
of
those
positions.
R
R
R
B
Oh
there
she
is
I'm
here:
yeah
just
takes
a
little
maneuvering
with
taking
everything
off
of
mute.
So
to
respond
to
the
question
about
the
26
positions
using
the
basis
of
state
fiscal
year,
21
which
we're
in
right
now.
Those
26
positions,
cumulatively,
have
approximately
3
million
dollars
per
year
in
authority
for
the
personnel
costs
in
category
1..
A
R
Thank
you,
speaker,
jessica
idea,
for
the
record.
We
did
that
with
the
intention
of
not
having
an
impact
on
general
fund
and
because
we
think
it's
the
appropriate
use
of
settlement
funds
for
the
for
the
foreseeable
future.
Every
single
time
I
go
before
ifc
and
with
a
work
program
to
spend
settlement
funds.
The
first
question
I
get
from
assemblywoman
benitez
thompson
is
always
the
best
one
and
it's.
How
does
this
relate
to
consumer
protection?
R
This
way,
we
know
that
all
settlement
funds
in
the
future,
with
the
exceptions
listed
in
the
bill,
will
go
to
consumer
protection
and
will
be
appropriately
used
for
the
for
the
purpose
of
the
settlement,
regardless
of
the
specific
nature
of
that
settlement.
So,
while
while
it
would
be
lovely
to
to
ask
for
a
general
fund
every
year
for
these
positions
and
never
have
to
worry
about
this
settlement
fund
shortfall,
we
we
frankly
thought
it
was
the
best
use
of
of
settlement
funds.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
I
appreciate
that,
but
I
also
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
don't
come
to
ifc
to
backfill
positions,
so
I
guess
my
next
question
would
be
the
account
that
we're
talking
about
is
proposed
to
stay
outside
of
the
budget
system.
R
Jessica,
dare
for
the
record
we,
the
conceptual
amendment
that
we
submitted
would
change
that,
so
it
would
stay
in
the
state's
accounting.
A
System
then
I
I
guess
I
misread
it
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
read
it
again,
because
my
impression
that
the
amendment
didn't
thoroughly
address
it
coming
all
the
way
back,
it
still
stayed
as
as
an
account
in
the
executive
budget
but
outside
of
the
system.
So
I'll
we'll
have
to
look
into
that
and
verify
that.
But
it
is
your
intent
that
it
would
be
within
the
system.
R
A
A
B
Thank
you,
chair
I'll,
keep
it
very
quick,
bailey
boardland
for
the
record
I
wanted
to
put
on
the
record
washer
legal
services
support
the
executive
director.
Dion
contin
could
not
be
here
tonight,
but
this
is
really
important
funding
for
the
work
that
we
do
at
all
of
the
providers
that
we
have
set
up
around
the
state
with
the
legal
aid
providers
to
make
sure
that
the
needs
are
being
met,
statewide
for
the
people
in
need
for
the
needs
of
the
time.
B
D
O
Good
evening,
kara
carlson
excuse
me
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
connie
acreage,
c-o-n-n-I-e.
O
O
A
You
thank
you.
Anyone
else
in
support.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Those
in
opposition,
please.
D
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I
think
we
still
have
a
couple
of
issues
to
address
as
far
as
access
to
the
ifc
contingency
fund.
The
fund
is
basically
for
unforeseen
expenditures
and
we're
looking
at
this,
as
this
would
be
something
to
do:
fund
ongoing
costs.
And
when
I
read
through
the
amendment,
the
purpose
of
the
change
is
to
keep
the
account
in
the
state
accounting
system,
but
as
a
non-executive
budget
account.
A
So
I
believe
that's
the
phrase
that
we're
going
to
need
to
address
between
ms
adair
and
staff
to
make
sure
that
this
account
is
in
the
in
the
correct
accounting
system
and
within
the
executive
budget,
so
that
it
does
have
the
appropriate
oversight
that
we
can
follow
along
with.
So
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
have
the
interested
parties
continue
to
work
on
this
bill,
and
if
you
could
share
any
further
information
with
staff
and
myself,
it
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
A
A
A
S
Good
evening,
chair
carlton
and
members
of
the
ways
and
means
committee
for
the
record,
I
am
assemblywoman
rochelle
nguyen
representing
assembly
district
10.,
it's
my
privilege
to
present
assembly
bill
116
for
your
consideration.
For
many
of
you.
This
might
be
your
fifth
time
hearing
a
bill
of
this
similar
nature.
S
I
would
note
just
for
the
record
that
many
of
the
fiscal
notes
were
prepared
prior
to
amendment
3
11,
to
assembly
bill
116
that
came
out
of
a
lot
of
working
groups
and
discussions
prior
to
the
presentation
of
assembly,
bill
116
in
assembly,
judiciary
and
also
after
that
hearing.
So
I
know
that
a
lot
of
those
fiscal
notes
are
potentially
addressed
by
those
amendments
because
they
were
amendments
made
at
the
direction
and
the
suggestion
of
many
of
the
local
and
municipalities
and
county
courts
that
had
placed
fiscal
notes
on
those.
S
A
Thank
you
very
much
I'll
go
to
speaker
fryerson
first.
L
L
Is
it
your
experience
that
many
of
these,
if
they
are
arrested,
end
up
getting
credit
for
time
served?
And
so
my
point
is
not
only
are
we
not
getting
money
but
we're
actually
paying
money
to
house
people
for
a
weekend
and
we
ultimately
get
nothing,
but
that
that
that
expense.
S
Thank
you
for
that
question,
speaker
for
arson.
That
is
correct.
So
none
of
these
fiscal
notes
take
into
consideration
this.
If
someone
fails
to
pay
their
speeding
ticket,
it
goes
into
a
criminal
bench
warrant
that
bit
bench
warrant
their
later
pulled
over
for
that
bench
where,
for
whatever
reason
that
person
is
then
taken
into
custody,
the
police
officer
then
has
to
impound
their
vehicle,
potentially
wait
for
a
tow
truck
to
come
and
impound
that
vehicle.
They
then
have
to
take
that
individual
down
to
the
jail
book
them
into
the
jail
on
average.
S
People
were
spending
approximately
72
hours
in
custody.
I
know
we
have
heard
from
various
folks,
and
I'm
sure
you
have
in
this
committee
how
much
it
costs
to
potentially
incarcerate
someone
in
there.
I've
heard
anywhere
from
150
to
190
dollars
a
day
and
then
in
some
jurisdictions
people
are
just
given
credit
for
time
served
in
some
jurisdictions.
S
There's
plenty
of
actual
evidence
to
show
that
there
are
cost
savings
and
there
is
ability
across
the
nation.
I
think
we
are
one
of
we
are
only
one
of
like
10
or
11
states
in
the
entire
nation
that
have
not
decriminalized
traffic.
So
we
have
plenty
of
other
states
to
look
at
to
see
how
they
have
accomplished
this
over
the
past,
like
10
15,
20
30
40
years
in
some
cases
here,
one
of
the
things
that
inspired
me
to
bring
up
this
legislation
again
is
looking
at
what
carson
city
did.
S
So
they
decided
in
october,
of
2019
kind
of
at
the
conclusion
of
the
80th
session
that
they
saw
the
writing
on
the
wall
and
they
decided
to
not
arrest
and
not
send
people
not
to
arrest
on
traffic
warrants
any
longer,
so
they
kind
of
did
their
own
pseudo
decriminalization.
What
they
did
instead
was.
They
would
send
out
a
notice
when
that
notice
came
in.
They
would
then
send
the
case
to
collections.
S
Obviously,
we
have
some
kind
of
skewed
data
data
when
it
comes
to
how
much
impact
that
had
because
of
kova.
There
was
already
a
decline
in
the
number
of
tickets
that
were
issued
because
there
were
fewer
people
driving,
and
there
was
a
priority
for
most
law
enforcement,
not
to
pull
people
over
unnecessarily
for
traffic
citations.
S
But
even
then
they
said
with
their
collections,
not
necessarily
their
warrants.
I
believe
they
saw
an
increase
of
around
eight
or
eight
and
a
half
percent
in
their
collection
things.
So
I
think
that's
some
inspiring.
It
was
inspiring
enough
data
that
it
encouraged
me
to
bring
up
assembly
bill
116
during
this
session.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
so
we
do
have
a
couple
of
fiscal
notes
listed
and
the
first
one
that
I
come
to
that
actually
has
some
dollars
on
it.
I
do
have
a
couple
with
zeros
on
them
is
the
department
of
public
safety,
and
it
appears
as
though
between
22
and
23.
They
were
they're
looking
at
310,
000
and
80
000
into
the
future.
S
I
have
rochelle
win
for
the
record.
I
have
had
conversations
with
them.
If
anything,
there
probably
is
the
most
like
realistic,
because
it
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
their
ability
to
do
their
job.
I
know
that
they
would
have
to
potentially
do
new
ticket
forms.
I
learned
that
there
are
still
a
lot
of
officers
that
actually
use
ticket
books,
so
that
might
require
the
reprinting
of
new
like
ticket
books.
In
fact,
I
think
it's
like
60
of
our
state
actually
uses
those
carbon
copy
type
of
things.
S
For
example,
one
of
the
amendments
allows
for
an
opt-in
opportunity
for
people
to
receive
their
notification,
a
reminder
via
either
text
message
or
email,
which
would
save
a
lot
of
money
for
the
jurisdictions
and
not
having
to
do
that.
And
it's
also
been
one
of
those
things
that
have
been
shown
to
actually
encourage
people
to
pay
their
tickets
because
sometimes
getting
a
text
reminder
is
going
to
be
more
accurate
and
more
remind
people
to
pay
their
tickets
rather
than
receiving
any
kind
of
certified
letter
or
something
to
an
address.
That
may
have
changed.
A
A
A
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
committee,
john
pirro,
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office.
We're
urging
this
committee
to
support
ab-116
nevada,
as
assemblyman
rochelle
has
said,
is
one
of
the
few
states
to
continue
to
criminalize
traffic
offenses
we're
building
systems
off
of
criminalizing
traffic
offenses
that
disproportionately
affect
our
most
marginalized
citizens.
Q
The
fiscal
notes
don't
take
into
account
the
cost
of
incarcerating
somebody
in
our
clark
county
detention
center
at
190
a
day,
and
I
believe
that
they
came
before
this
body
earlier
in
the
session
to
ask
for
200
a
day
state
reimbursement.
So
the
cost
is
going
up.
If
you
get
arrested
on
a
thursday
in
municipal
court,
you
will
not
see
a
judge
until
monday,
so
we
pay
that
and,
as
speaker
fryerson
has
said,
that's
three
days
at
190
a
day
that
the
state
eats.
Q
O
Q
Stopped
arresting
people
for
warrants
for
traffic
tickets.
They
also
don't
take
into
account
the
ripple
effects
that
I,
as
a
public
defender,
have
seen
while
representing
people
at
bench
warrant
clinics.
I
watch
people
just
from
a
simple
warrant,
get
arrested
on
a
thursday,
not
released
till
monday,
lose
their
house
lose
their
car,
lose
their
job
and
then
struggle
to
get
back
on
their
feet.
Q
B
Good
evening,
chair
carlson
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
kendra
burchie
k-e-n-d-r-a-b-e-r-t-s-c-h-y
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
I
echo
mr
piro's
statements
and
urge
this
committee
to
support
this
measure.
I
would
note
that
it
is
absolutely
there's
an
economic
impact
on
our
citizens
because
they
are
not
losing
their
jobs
by
being
picked
up
and
kept
in
custody
for
several
days,
they're,
not
losing
their
children
and
being
involved
in
the
cps
system.
Because
of
these
tickets
in
washoe
county,
it
costs
approximately
and
twenty
nine
dollars
up
to
five
hundred
dollars
per
day.
B
A
D
N
N
You
very
much
thank
you,
chair
carlton
and
committee
members.
This
is
nick
chipak,
n-I-c-k,
s-h-e-p-a-c-k
policy
and
program
associate
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
None
of
the
physical
notes
consider
the
savings
from
ending
criminal
enforcement.
The
fiscal
notes,
assume
criminal
penalties,
are
effective
enforcement
mechanisms,
but
ignore
the
fact
that
the
current
process
is
not
working,
hence
the
hundreds
of
thousands
of
cases
of
non-payment,
and
they
cannot
know
how
effective
their
enforcement
mechanisms
are
without
disclosing
how
much
they
are
imposing
collecting
and
failing
to
collect.
N
The
fiscal
notes
rely
on
the
assumption
that
if
criminal
penalties
for
non-payment
of
traffic
tickets
are
eliminated,
people
will
stop
paying.
This
is
there's
ample
evidence
to
indicate
that
people
don't
pay
because
they
can't
afford
to,
with
the
exception
of
one
person,
everyone
interviewed
in
the
new
aclu
report,
which
has
been
submitted
to
the
committee,
failed
to
pay
their
fines
and
fees
because
they
could
not
afford
to
pay
them.
N
We
are
deeply
concerned
by
any
government
entity
that
argues
for
the
need
to
wield
the
power
of
the
criminal
legal
system
in
order
to
collect
revenue
when
there
is
no
legitimate
public
safety
argument.
Courts
in
law
enforcement
should
not
be
shaking
down
people
who
have
it.
This
is
taxation
by
citation
plain
and
simple.
We
thank
you
for
your
time
and
for
hearing
this
still
last
so
I
was
able
to
watch
the
cardinals
game
have
a
great
evening.
A
Could
have
gone
all
night
without
that
one
you're
talking
to
a
cardinals
fan.
Thank
you
very
much
that
will
not
reflect
on
the
bill
hearing.
I
promise
everyone
I'll
try
to
keep
that
outside
of
my
my
thought
process.
So
with
that
broadcast
services
is,
are
there
anyone
else
in
support
of
the
bill.
D
D
P
Hi,
yes
thank
the
committee
for
addressing
ab116
and
I'm
donald
gallimore
senior
d-o-n-a-l-d-g-a-l-l-I-m-o-r-e.
P
The
legislative
committee
chair
for
the
reno
sparks
in
a
naacp
and
the
vmware
sparks
in
aacp
is
in
strong
support
of
ab-116
to
make
traffic
stop
ticket,
stop
civil
penalties
only
placed
misdemeanors
on
vehicle
violations
and
include
section
80
to
pretty
much
discontinue,
prosecuting
citizens
who
arrested,
and
you
know,
catch
cases
that
will
be
rescinded
after
the
law
is
passed.
P
So
I
would
like
to
please
also
make
sure
that
everyone
understands
that
police
officers
and
peace
officers
as
well
as
citizens
can
say
we
can
save
their
lives
with
this
passage
because
of
them
much
more
comfort
in
traffic
stops
so
by
the
way
expenses
or
incarceration
will
drop
basically
because
of
the
civil
penalties
fees.
So
I
just
request
that
the
committee
please
pass
116
to
say
peace
officer
and
citizen
lives.
A
Thank
you
very
much
other
folks
in
support
broadcast
services.
D
K
K
K
In
those
cases,
you've
also
heard
about
how
much
it
costs
to
incarcerate
someone
and
how
much
money
can
be
credited
to
a
person
with
which
means
actual
revenue
to
the
state
is
not
being
seen.
Another
issue
is
that
officer
salary,
what
it
calls
an
officer,
a
metro,
police
officer
to
arrest
some
someone
tow
their
car
transport
and
book
them
in
jail
is
anywhere
from
145
dollars
to
164
dollars
per
day,
and
that
information
comes
from
our
metropolitan
police
department.
K
That
is
money
that
is
officers
time
that
could
actually
be
used
to
be
getting
dangerous
criminals
off
the
street.
So
again,
we
believe
that
this
current
policy
is
counterproductive.
We
urge
the
committee
to
pass
this
legislation
and
again
we
want
to
thank
assemblywoman,
rochelle
wynn
for
bringing
this
important
piece
of
legislation,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
D
N
Marcos,
lopez,
americas,
prosperity,
nevada,
m-a-r-c-o-s-l-o-p-e-z,
america's
prosperity,
nevada
is
proud
to
support
ab116
and
we
thank
the
sponsor
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
of
your
times,
but
I'm
just
going
to
say
mainly
ditto,
but
I
think
we
should
be
looking
at
completely
different
ways
of
funding
our
courts,
so
we
would
go
one
step
further.
We
think
that
the
entire
judicial
system
needs
to
be
funded
from
the
general
fund
holy
not
on
the
backs
of
nevada.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
for
the
ditto
anybody
behind
him.
Please
take
note
so
with
that.
The
next
person
in
support.
D
D
P
Thank
you,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
mike
cathcart
c-a-t-h
c-a-r-t,
representing
the
city
of
henderson.
I
am
in
opposition
this
evening
specifically
for
the
fiscal
note
that
was
filed
by
the
city,
but
we
are
continuing
to
participate
in
the
ongoing
discussions
with
the
sponsor
to
address
the
policy
concerns.
P
D
P
P
O
P
P
Is
an
important
part
of
this
policy
discussion
and
if
this
legislation
passes
the
revenue
simply
will
not
no
longer
be
collected
and
is
therefore
a
financial
impact
that
we
we
felt
must
be
documented.
When
we
were
asked
to
provide
fiscal
information
on
this
legislation,
there
may
be
some
savings,
as
discussed
by
the
committee
earlier
having
to
do
with
the
warrants,
but
I
do
not
have
that
number
at
this
time.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
john
cormick,
for
the
record.
I'm
the
assistant
court
administrator
at
the
supreme
court
aoc
and
with
me,
is
todd
miler,
who
is
our
manager
of
budgets
here?
First
I'd
like
to
indicate
that,
as
far
as
the
policy
question
we
are
neutral.
E
However,
as
I
think
neutral,
with
concerns
has
fallen
out
of
this
favor,
I
did
sign
up
in
opposition
simply
to
point
out
that
the
current
funding
scheme
for
the
supreme
court
funds,
approximately
one-third
of
our
operating
budget
with
administrative
assessment
revenue
that
is
levied
on
misdemeanor
violations,
80
of
those
primarily
being
traffic
tickets
and,
as
our
fiscal
note
indicates,
we
don't
have
a
way
to
necessarily
predict
the
impact
this
measure
could
have
on
that
funding.
However,
we
feel
it
would,
and
additionally,
I
would
just
like
to
point
out.
E
We
we've
conducted
some
analysis
of
carson
city,
administrative
assessment
revenue,
as
submitted
to
the
state
over
the
past
few
months,
and
and
while
the
sample
size
is
probably
not
sufficient,
we've
not
seen
necessarily
any
substantive
increase
in
in
their
collections.
D
B
B
C-A-L-L-I-W-I-L-S-M-Sam
e-y,
we
are
here
in
opposition
to
ab-116
this
evening,
strictly
because
of
the
fiscal
impact
of
the
bill.
We
wanted
to
put
on
the
record
revisions
to
our
fiscal
note
under
the
reprinted
version
and
based
on
conversations
we've
had
with
the
bill
sponsored
thus
far.
Since
this
introduction,
the
bill
has
made
several
changes,
including
allowing
the
fees
from
the
civil
citations
to
stay
in
the
jurisdiction
in
which
the
infraction
occurred.
Additionally,
provisions
that
the
bill
sponsor
message,
such
as
allowing
to
collect
certain
contact
information
and
allowing
for
a
text
option,
will
provide
additional
tools.
F
B
B
The
initial
cost
to
transition
to
our
system
would
still
be
estimated
at
approximately
two
hundred
thousand.
For
that
one
time
cost
of
the
changes
to
the
bill
of
health
alleviate
some
fiscal
concerns.
It
continues
to
create
an
unfunded
mandate
on
local
governments.
For
that
reason,
we're
in
opposition
this
evening.
We.
R
A
D
G
Good
evening,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
randy
robinson
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
las
vegas,
that's
r-a-n-d-y.
G
G
There
will
be
costs
incurred
by
us
not
only
through
loss
of
revenue,
but
by
changing
our
our
court
management
fee.
Will
there
be
cost
savings?
Absolutely
do
we
think
there'll
be
a
wash
one
for
one?
No,
we
don't,
but
what
we
have
done
at
the
at
the
encouragement
of
the
sponsor
is
reached
out
to
the
city
of
phoenix,
who
has
been
doing
a
similar
program
for
over
25
years.
We
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
with
them
learned.
D
G
They're
doing
it
learned
what
they're
doing
and
the
costs
and
cost
savings
that
they've
experienced
and
the
changes
that
they
have
made
over
the
last
20
plus
years,
as
well
as
the
changes
that
they
continue
to
make
to
refine
the
system.
Have
they
seen
an
increase
in
in
collections
because
of
the
way
that
they
handle
this
this
kind
of
a
program?
Yes,
they
have,
and
we
anticipate
that
when
we
implement
this
system
here,
should
the
bill
ultimately
pass
and
we
follow
a
phoenix
type
model.
G
We
we
anticipate
that
the
collections
will
increase
for
us
as
well.
Unfortunately,
at
this
time
we
don't
have
a
way
to
accurately
estimate
what
the
cost
savings
will
be,
what
what
the
cost
will
be,
what
the
loss
of
revenue
will
be,
as
the
bill
continues
to
change,
we're
doing
our
best
to
try
to
keep
up
and
make
those
estimates
so
that
hopefully,
at
some
point
we
can
provide
a
reasonable
estimate
to
the
committee.
G
We
that
I
guess
the
way
I've
always
understood
a
fiscal
note
was
that
the
legislature
wasn't
just
interested
in
what
costs
may
occur
as
a
result
of
legislation.
So,
that's
that's
why
we
submitted
the
fiscal
notice
the
way
they
are.
We
had
to
respond
to
the
original
bill.
Now
it
has
changed
we're
trying
to
respond
to
those
changes
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
to
offer
those
comments
tonight.
Manager.
A
Thank
you,
the
next
person
in
opposition,
please.
D
G
O
E
G
We
will
continue
to
work
with
the
assembly
woman
to
ensure
the
fiscal
impacts
to
the
county
are
mitigated,
and
if
they
are,
we
will
gladly
move
to
the
neutral
position.
Additionally,
it
is
important
to
us-
and
the
assemblywoman
has
confirmed
the
acceptance
of
the
latest,
an
image
to
section
27
from
carson
city,
which
removes
the
person's
social
security
number
from
the
civil
interaction
citation.
G
D
O
Good
evening,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
dagny
stapleton
d-a-g-n-y-s-t-a-p-l-e-t-o-n
executive
director
of
naco,
the
nevada
association
of
counties,
we
wanted
to
provide
information
on
the
record
on
the
counties
outside
of
clark
who
submitted
fiscal
notes.
We
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
for
working
with
us
on
this
bill,
specifically
the
language
in
section
34,
which
ensures
that
the
new
civil
penalties
will
accrue
to
the
counties,
as
this
is
a
critical
funding
stream
for
a
court
system.
O
As
you've
heard
from
others,
I
can
confirm,
as
the
assembly
woman
stated,
that
the
rural
counties
with
fiscal
notes
on
the
bill
did
put
those
in
prior
to
the
bill
being
amended
and
they
are
in
the
process
of
adjusting
those.
Those
should
be
reduced
some
substantially.
However,
we
are
not
sure
at
this
point
whether
the
notes
will
be
removed
entirely.
O
S
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
roshall
win
for
the
record.
I
will
continue
to
work
with
them.
I
know
that
since
the
amendment
came
out
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
obviously
people
have
not
had
the
ability
to
update
any
of
their
fiscal
things,
so
I
will
follow
up
so
they
can
make
sure
they
get
that
information
to
the
committee.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
if
we
could
get
that
as
as
soon
as
possible,
we
we
did
wait
a
while
in
having
the
hearing
on
this
bill,
so
that
we
could
give
folks
time
to
analyze
the
amendment
and
the
this
reprint
and
where
their
fiscal
notes
might
be.
So
I'd
like
to
incentivize
them
all
to
get
it
finalized
in
the
very
near
future.
So
we
can
have
that
information
as
we
move
forward.
S
Thank
you
rochelle.
In
for
the
record,
just
for
the
record,
I
did
accept
almost
every
single
one
of
the
amendments
from
the
municipalities
and
counties.
I
know
that
there
were
some
that
slipped
through
in
the
amendment
as
it
was
like
drafted,
but
it
is
my
intention,
as
this
bill
moves
forward,
to
make
those
additional
changes
as
well.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that
committee
members
not
seeing
any
other
questions
or
comments.
This
was
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
116.
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
116,
and
that
is
our
last
bill
for
the
evening.
We
won't.
There
are
a
couple
of
bills
that
we
could
move,
but
we're
missing
a
couple
of
members,
so
committee
members,
when
we
get
the
chance
to
get
back
together,
some
of
the
administration
bills
we're
going
to
want
to
move
out
and
get
to
the
floor
as
we
move
forward.