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A
Good
morning,
everyone
welcome
to
ways
and
means
in
the
morning,
so
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started.
We
are
missing
a
couple
of
members,
but
I'm
sure
they're
gonna
show
up
at
the
appropriate
time.
So
with
that,
I
will
go
ahead
and
call
this
meeting
order.
Staff.
If
you
could
please
call
the
role
assemblywoman.
C
A
Carlton-
and
I
am
here
so
with
that
committee
members
this
morning-
we
have
six
bills
just
to
let
everyone
know
ab480
and
ab482.
We
will
be
taking
last.
We
want
to
get
the
other
ones
out
of
the
way
so
that
we
can
keep
going
and,
as
we
have
done
in
the
past,
a
number
of
these,
I
believe,
can
be
heard
and
spun
around
and
sent
right
back
out.
So
that's
kind
of
the
goal
for
the
next
couple
weeks
is
to
just
keep
everything
moving.
A
So
with
that,
I
believe
we
can
go
ahead
and
start
with
assembly
bill
471,
and
I
am
looking
for
my
list
to
see
who's
doing
what
here
assembly
bill.
A
A
Oh
good
morning
there
you
are
had
to
flip
the
screen
a
couple
times
to
find
the
right
group
of
people
good
morning.
Ladies,
please
tell
you
what
why
don't?
We
have
miss
kaufman,
give
us
a
brief,
walk
through
and
then
we'll
go
to
you
and
then
we'll
go
to
questions.
Ms
kaufman.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly,
bill
471
provides
a
fee
to
be
imposed
on
applicants
for
the
issuance
of,
or
renewal
of
a
certificate
of
authorization
for
a
radiation
machine
for
mammography.
This
is
a
budget
implementation
bill.
The
nevada
central
cancer
registry
proposes
a
fee
increase
to
operators
of
mammography
and
radiation
machines
to
address
the
solvency
issues
the
budget
has
been
experiencing
over
the
last
several
biennia.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
who
would
like
to
just
give
us
a
high
level
overview
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions
good.
B
Morning
morning,
charcoal
carlton
and
members
of
the
assembly
ways
and
means
committee.
My
name
is
julia
peek
and
I
serve
as
one
of
the
deputy
administrators
with
the
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health.
Today,
our
team
is
here
to
present
me
answer.
Questions
on
assembly
bill,
471
ab471
is
a
bill
reflecting
many
years
in
the
making
for
our
nevada,
central
cancer
registry
or
nccr
to
provide
a
brief
history
of
the
registry.
B
Timely
and
complete
cancer
data
are
used
to
evaluate
the
appropriateness
of
measures
for
the
prevention
and
control
of
cancer
and
conducting
comprehensive
epidemiological
surveys
of
cancer
and
cancer-related
deaths
statewide
and
nationally.
Our
nccr
annually
compiles
comprehensive
cancer
data
for
all
years
of
operation
and
submits
the
reports
to
the
centers
for
disease
control
and
the
north
american
association
for
cancer
registries.
This
is
used
for
analysis,
certifications
and
inclusion
in
national
cancer
data.
B
It's
a
vital
tool
for
monitoring
the
incidence
of
cancer
within
our
state
and
sharing
this
information
with
health
care
providers,
researchers
and
the
general
public.
The
registry
has
had
a
variety
of
funding
sources
over
the
years
from
fees
to
federal
grants
to
general
funds.
The
registry
used
to
charge
a
fee
to
hospitals
for
each
case
of
cancer.
They
successfully
reported
to
the
registry.
At
that
time,
most
of
the
cancer
cases
were
diagnosed
and
treated
in
a
hospital
setting,
so
this
model
really
supported
complete
reporting
and
the
staffing
means
of
the
registry.
B
We
changed
this
model
in
statute,
though
so
as
to
not
penalize
correct
reporting
from
the
hospital,
so
that
feed
of
the
hospitals
for
correct
reporting
was
removed
over
this
time.
The
diagnosis
and
treatment
of
cancer
changed,
so
cases
could
now
be
diagnosed
and
treated
outside
a
hospital
setting
with
this
change,
there
was
confusion
around
who
should
report
what
and
who
couldn't
be
penalized
for
not
reporting
during
this
time.
The
registry
also
depleted
the
reserve,
so
it
could
no
longer
provide
the
staffing
support
needed
based
on
the
number
of
cases
we
had
to
report.
B
That
brings
us
to
last
session,
where
our
dpdh
requested
general
fund
to
support
positions
for
the
registry.
We
also
started
to
receive
case
reports
from
large
outpatient
cancer
treatment
facilities,
which
gave
us
the
number
of
cases
we
needed.
We
were
approved
for
the
requested
positions,
but
for
only
one
year
of
the
biennium
and
were
required
to
report
on
progress
of
developing
a
sustainable
fee
based
registry
through
a
letter
of
intent
over
the
course
of
the
biennium.
B
We
worked
hard
with
the
stakeholders
to
develop
the
most
reasonable
and
equitable
fee
system
to
sustain
the
registry,
and
that
is
outlined
in
this
bill.
I'm
happy
to
walk
through
the
sections
of
the
bill
chair
if
you'd
like
or
I
can
pause
and
just
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
the
budgetary
aspect
of
the
bill.
A
Go
ahead
and
just
give
us
a
little
bit
of
a
walk
through
on
the
bill.
This
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
over
a
number
of
biennium
and
I'm
very
happy
to
see
that
I
think
we're
finally,
where
we
need
to
be
to
be
sustainable
in
the
future
and
have
there
be
a
real
nexus
to
the
the
fees
and
actually
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish.
So,
if
you
would
give
us
just
a
real
high
level
overview
in
the
bill
and
then
I'll
open
it
up
to
questions
from
the
members.
Thank
you.
B
B
We
have
clarified
the
language
on
what
entities
must
report
to
the
registry,
as
this
has
caused
confusion
in
the
past.
This
will
now
include
a
provider
of
healthcare
as
defined
in
nrs
629,
as
well
as
other
treatment
facility,
which
has
been
added
and
defined
within
section
3.
The
board
of
health
will
prescribe
the
theoces
to
the
facilities
and
provide
providers
noted
above
within
section
4.
The
language
was
removed.
B
Again,
I
could
read
that
list,
but
it's
the
same
as
noted
above
section
six
and
seven
align
the
former
language
for
reporting,
with
the
new
language,
to
note
reporting
requirements
again
for
that
provider
of
health
care,
in
that
new
definition
of
other
treatment
provider,
sections
eight
and
nine
notes
the
fee
imposed
on
radiation
machines
and
medical
laboratories
for
the
budgetary
aspects
of
this
bill.
The
agency
will
charge
a
six
percent
fee
to
the
renewal
fee
through
this
biennium,
but
no
more
than
eight
percent,
as
defined
in
the
bill.
B
B
B
I
want
to
thank
the
many
people
who
came
to
the
table
to
help
support
the
development
of
this
concept
and
who
have
supported
the
registry
over
the
past
many
years.
That
concludes
my
written
testimony
and
we
are
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you,
mrs
peake,
for
that
information.
It's
this
surely
has
been
a
roller
coaster
ride
on
how
to
fund
this
this
agency,
or
this
this
department,
and
and
just
for
clarification,
because
this
is
a
different
model
than
what
we
have
heard
in
the
past,
where,
in
the
past,
the
providers
who
diagnosed
a
cancer
would
be
charged
a
fee
for
every
cancer
diagnosis,
for
example
myself.
B
Chair
three
to
dr
titus:
sorry,
julia
peak
for
the
record,
dr
titus.
Again,
thank
you
for
all
your
work
on
this
registry
over
the
years,
so
you're
absolutely
correct.
I'll
start
with
the
end
of
your
question,
so
we
don't
license
providers
per
se,
so
a
dermatologist,
a
dpvh
doesn't
license
those,
so
they
would
not
be
charged.
It
will
be,
what's
been
identified
as
a
treatment
provider
in
that
section
and
then
also
what's
been
defined
as
a
provider
of
healthcare.
B
That's
a
confusing
term
because
it
would
imply
that
it's
an
individual
doctor's
office
and
then
the
second
part
of
your
question-
and
I
think
that
was
so
important
in
this
new
model-
is
you'd-
be
assessed
an
annual
fee
of
no
more
than
eight
percent.
With
your
renewal
of
the
license
again
for
those
entities,
you
would
not
be
charged
an
unknown
fee
based
on
the
number
of
cases
you
report
to
us
and
we
we
feel
and
the
stakeholders
feel
that
that's
a
a
better,
more
sustainable
model.
B
Because
then
you
are
encouraged
to
report,
which
is
absolutely
essential
and
you
would
just
be
investing
a
small
dollar
amount
annually
to
support
the
registry.
I'll
also
note
that
last
session
we
came
forward
actually
requesting
reposition
and
we
have
a
conversation
with
you
as
well.
It
included
an
administrative
assistant
and
that
person
would
help
us
do
data
entry,
but
we've
moved
forward
really
well
in
getting
electronic
reporting.
So
we're
really
looking
forward
to
that
you'll
see
that
position
has
not
been
included.
B
The
other
model
that
we
looked
at
during
the
biennium
again
was
billing.
In
the
way
dr
titus
described,
billing
is
a
ton
of
work,
and
so
that
would
require
at
least
1a
when
we
built
the
hospitals
in
the
past.
That
was
a
full-time
aaa,
and
so
what
we've
been
able
to
do
with
this
model
is
actually
eliminate
that
position,
because
this
billing
would
be
utilized
through
hcqc
and
our
radiological
health
services
program.
So
it's
no
additional
workload
for
us,
so
we've
actually
saved
a
position
in
the
model.
That's
presented
in
front
of
you.
E
Follow-Up
manager,
so
then
this
is
the
fiscal
committee
and
the
issue
has
been
the
sustain,
not
the
importance
of
the
cancer
registry,
but
the
sustainability
of
it
and
trying
to
find
the
correct
model
to
gather
the
most
information,
most
accurate
information
and
and
keep
it
funded.
So
with
this
six
dollar
fee,
maximum
eight
dollar
fee,
do
you
and
obviously
you
know
how
many
facilities
this
would
affect?
E
E
How
much?
I
guess,
what
how
much
will
there
be
enough
revenue
generated
with
this
formula,
the
six
to
the
eighth
that
you
feel
be
sustainable,
at
least
in
the
near
couple
bienniums.
B
The
eight
percent
would
generate
the
revenue
to
sustain
at
least
two
positions,
if
not
more,
with
cost
of
living
increases
and
other
things,
one
of
the
things
with
cancer
reporting
that
I
I
didn't
note
is
unlike
infectious
disease
reporting,
where
we
report
truly
the
burden
that
comes
into
the
state,
and
we
report
that
up
to
our
federal
partners
within
the
cancer
registry,
they
tell
you
at
cdc
how
many
cases
they
expect
you
to
report
each
year
and
that
goes
up
minimally
each
year.
B
As
you
know,
cancer
is
a
chronic
disease
and
take
many
many
years
to
develop,
and
so
so
the
next
several
years,
we
wouldn't
expect
a
great
increase
on
the
number
of
cases.
We'd
see
also
our
hospitals
and
other
providers
are
getting
much
more
complete
with
their
reporting.
B
In
some
cases
we
get
batch
files,
and
so
that
requires
less
less
work.
The
more
we
can
get
to
report
electronically,
again
the
less
work,
and
so
we
can
focus
on
quality
improvement
data
analysis,
technical
assistance,
those
kind
of
things.
So
long
answer
to
say.
We
do
feel
that
this
is
a
sustainable
model
if
approved,
we
don't
see
any
reason.
We'd
have
to
come
back
and
talk
about
the
cancer
registry,
as
we
have
done
for
many
years
outside
of
just
noting
the
success
of
the
program.
E
A
B
Julia
peak
for
the
record
great
question
so
so
their
right
now
within
statute
says
that
we
can
charge
a
a
flat
fee
of
250
for
each
case.
We
abstract
there
is
confusion
about
who?
Can
we
assess
that
fee
to
and
who's
required
to
report?
In
other
things,
so
we've
not
charged
that
fee,
so
no
providers
right
now
are
being
charged
a
fee
for
reporting.
B
This
model
would
develop
a
way
to
sustain
the
registry.
We
do
need
funds.
We
do
need
to
support
two
positions,
we're
not
doing
that
right
now
through
charging
that
250
fee
we'd
like
to
charge
as,
as
was
noted,
a
much
lesser
fee.
That's
known.
A
Welcome
with
that
committee
members
any
other
questions
at
this
time,
seeing
no
others
so
with
that
this
is
the
hearing
for
assemblyville
471,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
room
wishing
to
testify
on
assembly
bill
471,
not
seeing
anyone
broadcast
services?
Do
we
have
anyone
on
zoom
or
an
audio
in
support
of
assembly
bill
471.
H
C
So,
on
behalf,
I
just
submit
my
testimony,
so
you
should
see
that
in
in
the
the
notes
on
this
bill
and
we
support
highly
support
ab471.
In
fact,
the
nevada
cancer
coalition
and
partners
have
been
working
with
miss
peak
for
years
to
continually
update
our
policies
regarding
our
central
cancer
registry.
C
We,
the
registry,
has
grown
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
growing
state,
so
we
highly
support
on
finding
funding
sources
for
this.
We
were
the
only
state
actually
charging
reporters
to
report
into
the
registry
which,
which
unfortunately
was
a
huge
barrier.
So
we
are
very
grateful.
We
were
able
to
remove
that
and,
as
such,
have
thoroughly
increased
our
capacity
to
gather
cancer
data
in
our
state.
So
we're
really
excited
about
this
opportunity
to
better
fund
the
registry,
and
we
thank
you
for
your
attention
to
this
bill.
B
Julia
peek
for
the
record.
I
again
just
want
to
thank
all
of
you
who
have
been
doing
this
with
us
at
least
me
in
particular
for
the
last
decade.
We
do
think
that
this
will
be
successful
for
the
registry
to
appreciate
your
time
and
attention
on
this.
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly,
bill
479
creates
a
position
of
the
chief
investment
officer.
As
a
member
of
the
executive
staff
of
the
public
employees,
retirement
system
regards
to
the
fiscal
impact
on
may
3rd.
The
money
committee
has
approved
the
addition
of
this
chief
investment
officer
to
the
public
employees.
Retirement
system.
D
Good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
tina
lism,
the
executive
officer
of
the
public
employees
retirement
system
ab479
implements
a
new
position
requested
by
the
retirement
board
in
the
budget
process.
Currently,
the
retirement
system
has
one
investment
staff
member
this
bill
would
add
an
additional
investment
staff
member.
The
cost
associated
with
this
was
included
in
the
proposed
budget
submitted
by
the
retirement
board,
and
revenue
for
the
system's
administrative
budget
is
from
transfers
from
the
trust
fund
on
a
per
capita
basis.
D
The
system
currently
has
an
investment
officer
in
nrs,
286,
160.,
section
1
of
the
bill
would
add
the
position
of
chief
investment
officer
and
rename
the
current
investment
officer
position
to
deputy
investment
officer.
The
chief
investment
officer
would
have
a
maximum
salary
one
step
above
the
maximum
of
the
deputy
investment
officer.
D
Section
2
of
the
bill
makes
a
conforming
change
to
nrs286,
170
and
section
3
provides
for
the
initial
salary
of
the
position
to
be
as
approved
in
the
budget
process
when
determining
which
positions
are
needed
to
most
efficiently
administer
the
system.
The
retirement
board
considers
factors
including
succession
planning,
continuity
of
governance,
financial
control,
separation
of
duties,
coverage
and
cost
efficiency.
D
An
additional
investment
employee
would
eliminate
the
potential
exposure
to
the
system,
should
the
current
investment
officer
suddenly
leave
or
for
whatever,
whatever
reason
become
unable
to
perform
his
duties.
In
addition,
a
second
investment
employee
would
facilitate
enhanced
financial
controls,
which
are
not
possible
under
a
single
employee
structure.
D
An
additional
investment
employee
would
also
provide
a
viable
succession
plan
to
help
ensure
the
underlying
investment
program,
philosophy
and
culture
which
has
produced
one
of
the
most
competitive
track
records
in
the
industry
does
endure
once
our
current
investment
officer
retires
or
moves
on.
So
with
that,
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
about
this.
A
Position
right
so
with
that
committee
members
will
go
ahead
and
open
it
up,
for
any
questions
I
believe,
is
just
the
the
the
budget
discussion
was
the
picture.
This
is
the
catcher.
This
is
how
we
complete
the
cycle
to
get
this
done.
So
are
there
any
questions
from
any
of
the
committee
members
at
this
time?
A
Not
seeing
any
question
good
job,
miss
leafs,
you
got
them.
You
got
them
all
quiet,
so
they're
there.
So
this
is
the
hearing
for
assembly
bill
479
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
for
the
hearing
not
seeing
anyone
here
in
the
room
to
testify
on
assembly
479
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
to
zoom
or
audio
broadcast
services.
Could
we
go
to
those
in
support
of
assemblyville
479?
Please.
A
So
with
that
miss
lease,
did
you
have
any
closing
comments
or
think
we're
good.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
We
appreciate
you
being
available
for
us
this
morning,
so
with
that
committee
members
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
close.
The
hearing
on
assembly
bill,
479
and
you'll
probably
be
seeing
this
one
a
little
bit
later.
Also
so
with
that,
I
believe
we're
going
to
skip
480,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
480
and
482
will
be
at
the
end
of
the
agenda,
so
we're
going
to
go
to
assembly
bill
481
I'll
turn
it
over
to
ms
kaufman
and
then
we'll
proceed.
I
J
I
1St
2017
nevada
experienced
the
largest
mass
shooting
in
u.s
history
since
that
tragedy.
There
have
been
lots
of
lessons,
especially
for
government
agencies
and
government
agencies
at
all
levels,
continue
to
work
on
modification
and
improvements
to
better
prepare
for
and
respond
to
critical
incidents
throughout
the
state.
Eb
481
is
one
of
those
improvements.
I
What
the
one
october
shooting
quickly
revealed
and
continues
to
reveal
every
day
is
the
need
for
a
designated
victim
center,
with
processes
trained
staff
and
victim-centered
approaches
to
respond
to
complex
and
significant
needs
in
terms
of
the
actual
ab-481.
It
requires
the
division
of
child
and
family
services
to
designate
a
statewide
victim
center
who
collaborate
with
appropriate
entities.
I
It
also
allows
for
an
account
to
be
created
and
for
the
division
to
accept
donations
into
that
account
for
furthering
the
purposes
of
such
a
statewide
victim
center.
At
this
time
I
hand
it
off
to
chief
john
steinbeck
and
barbara
buckley,
who
have
been
doing
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
since
1
october.
The
boots
on
the
ground
there
in
clark
county
to
explain
what
the
center
has
been
doing
and
how
this
bill
will
help
the
people
of
the
state
of
nevada.
L
You
good
morning
this
is
john
steinbeck,
I'm
the
fire
chief
of
the
clark
county
fire
department.
I
was
also
the
incident
commander
for
the
the
multi-agency
coordination
center
on
the
night
of
one
october
as
well
as
I
ran
the
family
assistance
center
for
the
following
three
weeks.
L
As
we
just
discussed,
this
was
the
largest
mass
shooting
in
our
nation's
history.
Well,
documented
that
we
had
58
people
brutally
murdered
that
night
we
had
800
more.
L
That
were
injured.
We
had
24
000
that
were
terrified
and
terrorized
and
and
running
through
the
streets,
and
then,
of
course,
the
entire
community
was
was
really
shook
to
their
core.
As
as
many
of
you
experienced
and
and
certainly
shared
those
feelings
with
us
and.
C
L
What
what
occurred
following
the
shooting,
of
course,
is
we
we
did
immediate
rescues.
That's
that's!
Our
primary
exact
objective
of
following
any
incident
is
life
safety
just
trying
to
separate
people
from
the
incident
trying
to
get
medical
care
as
quickly
as
possible,
trying
to
get
people
to
the
hospitals.
L
It
was
a
a
combined
public
private
effort,
as
many
heroes
of
course
stepped
up
and
drove
people
in
their
personal
cars
and
their
in
their
vehicles,
all
of
which
most
of
you
certainly
know,
but
I
think
added
that
it
adds
context
to
what
had
occurred
as
we
try
to,
as
we
try
to
do.
The
incident
stabilization
that
that
comes
with
family
reunification,
getting
people
back
together
with
the
people
that
they
came
with,
many
of
which
had
gone
to
the
hospitals
by
means
that
that
we
couldn't
track.
L
So
it
was
very
difficult,
but
it's
it's
very
rudimentary
at
the
beginning.
It's
it's
who
were
you
with?
Where
did
you
last
see
them
and
you
try
to
put
them
back
together
right
out
there
just
away
from
the
incident
the
best
that
you
can
also
at
the
hospitals
and
then,
of
course,
at
the
police
station
in
those
in
those
first
few
hours,
as
we
tried
to
reunite
people
and
and
unfortunately
start
to
give
some
of
the
notifications
of
the
about
the
deceased
immediately,
we
opened
up
well
as
quickly
as
we
could.
L
L
Some
of
the
registration
for
for
victims
of
crime,
some
immediate
social
services,
the
the
things
that
that
we
wouldn't
really
think
of
as
much
but
travel
and
and
hotel
assistance
getting
people
their
their
personal
effects.
L
Back
in
this
really
trying
to
problem
solve
for
people
as
we
could,
we
had
representatives
there
from
the
fbi,
the
american
red
cross
and
our
in
our
own
local
social
services,
as
well
as
many
other
participating
agencies
and
the
red
cross
has
run
those
type
of
incidents
much
more
often
than
any
of
us,
or
at
least
taken
part
in
them,
along
with
some
members
of
the
fbi,
and
they
stated
that
the
family
assistance
center
can
only
stay
open
for
about
14
days
at
max.
L
But
because
of
the
scope
of
this,
I
went
ahead
and
I
kept
it
open
for
20
days.
But
following
that,
we
don't
want
to
let
people
just
tell
them
at
that
point
in
time,
there's
nothing
more.
We
can
do
for
you
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
there
to
be
able
to
assist
those
in
need
when
they
needed
it,
not
on
our
timelines,
because
many
people
went
home
and
they
never
even
they
didn't
come
out
for
months.
L
It's
it's
really
on
on
the
victim's
timeline
as
to
when
they
need
that
assistance,
and
where
was
that
going
to
come
from
well
following
the
model
that
orlando
had
put
together,
because,
unfortunately,
now
we
had
something
that
we
never
wanted
to
have
in
common
with
orlando,
as
we
took
their
place
as
the
worst
mass
shooting
site,
they
had
built
a
a
resiliency
center.
L
That
was
for
that
ongoing
care,
and
so
we
immediately
tried
to
also
emulate
that
and
within
that
that
20
days,
we
built
a
a
resiliency
center
that
could
then
transition
over
and
look
more
for
the
long-term
care
of
of
the
people
that
had
suffered
from
that
from
that
incident
and
and
the
family
member
members
and
everybody
that
was
that
was
traumatized.
L
Our
goal
was
to
try
to
lessen
the
the
evil
individual
that
that
inflicted.
This
had
a
single
goal
of
as
far
as
we
could
tell,
and
that
was
to
cause
suffering.
Ours
was
to
alleviate
it
in
any
way
possible
and
if
that
meant
just
trying
to
help
with
some
legal
issues
that
you
might
have
or
going
through
some
of
the
frustrations
as
to
where
you'll
get
your
care.
L
You
know
or
trying
to
put
you
together
with
people
in
in
a
group
setting,
then
then
that
that
was
our
goal.
Whatever
it
was
walk
in
the
door,
you
have
a
problem.
How
can
we
solve
that
problem?
L
And
ever
since
the
beginning
of
the
incident,
we
would
assign
a
a
single
individual
to
the
survivor
or
to
the
survivor's
family.
L
So
there
was
a
single
point
of
contact
to
always
navigate
through
that
to
again
try
to
lessen
that,
and
then
we
knew
that
we
got
a
grant
that
supplied
us
for
three
years
very,
very
difficult
grant
to
navigate
through,
but
we
were
able
to
get
it
through
the
department
of
justice
and,
as
as
we
as
we've
learned,
that
this
is
certainly
going
to
be
much
longer
lasting
than
that.
L
L
But
it's
certainly
what
wasn't
lost
on
us
that
people
suffer
from
these
incidents
every
day,
people
that
we
want
to
give
the
same
exact
assistance.
It
just
wasn't
as
as
wide
scaled
and
didn't
affect
as
many
people,
but
if
you
lose
a
loved
one
or
injured
in
a
random
act
of
violence.
You
have
the
same
exact
needs
that
somebody
that
that
this
occurred
to
there
we've
really
built
something
that
I
think
we
can
be
proud
of,
but
more
importantly,
provides
a
a
service.
L
That's
not
provided
anywhere
else,
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to
have
that
for
all
of
our
residents
and
and
even
visitors
when,
when
needed
for
forever
that
that
that'll
be
there
and
and
they
can
be
surged
up,
so
that
we're
not
building
from
nothing.
L
Does
barbara
and
tanil
and
her
team
have
done
an
amazing
job,
and
I
just
want
to
give
100
support
for
that
and
in
any
way
continue
to
add
to
these
services
or
add
to
this
incredible
resource
that
we
have,
and
I
hope
that
you
can
support
that.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Miss
buckley.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
betty,
for
the
record.
My
name
is
barbara
buckley,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada,
the
chief
and
ross
put
the
need
to
you
all
very
eloquently.
K
It's
been
an
honor
to
work
with
clark,
county
emergency
management,
fire
social
services,
the
state
department
of
child
and
family
services,
doing
their
behavioral
health
and
now
victims
of
crime,
compensation
function,
metro
and
our
legal
aid
center
southern
nevada
staff
to
provide
long-term
victim
services
to
those
affected
by
the
october.
One
shooting
victim
services
is
not
very
robust
in
the
state
of
nevada.
We
have
pockets
of
excellence,
especially
in
domestic
violence,
sexual
assault,
nascent
efforts
to
assist
in
human
trafficking.
K
K
If
there
is
a
home
invasion
with
with
a
murder
of
a
family
member,
there
is
no
center
to
serve
these
victims
in
the
aftermath
of
october
1
having
the
vegas
strong,
resiliency
center
available
for
long-term
support
of
the
survivors
and
families
of
victims
of
october
1
and
to
assist
where
there
are
no
current
services
or
victims
of
violent
felonies
will
ensure
that
the
landscape
for
victim
services
can
change
that
we
have
a
resource
available,
for
god,
forbid
another
critical
incident,
and
that
we
have
a
resource
continuing
for
those
affected
by
this
tragedy
and
those
being
affected
by
violent
felonies,
where
there
is
no
comprehensive
resources.
K
It's
our
goal
to
continue
to
assist
to
those
other
communities
and
to
assist
right
here
in
our
own
state.
With
that,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
We
also
have
tanil
pereira
here,
she's
the
director
of
the
vegas
strong
resiliency
center.
In
case
you
have
any
questions
for
her
as
well.
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
more
of
a
statement
than
a
question.
If,
if
I
may,
you
know,
I
was
involved
in
in
october
one
and
when
we
were,
you
know
trying
to
get
our
arms
around
the
investigation.
G
It
was
very
comforting
to
see
people
in
our
community,
like
chief
steinbeck
and
speaker,
buckley
and
others
quickly-
think
forward
and
start
to
put
together
a
a
victim
advocate
center,
which
was
so
needed
with
with
all
with
all
the
need
that
we
had
in
that
incident,
and
this
bill
really
is
very
forward-thinking
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
You
guys
put
something
together
that
really
made
a
difference
in
people's
lives
that
were
impacted
by
that
and
heaven
forbid.
G
If
we
have
something
like
this
again,
it's
important
that
we
have
the
groundwork
and
we
lay
these
things
in
place
so
that
we
can
help
people
that
are
in
in
desperate
need
during
difficult
times,
and
you
know,
we've
done
a
decent
job,
as
you
pointed
out
speaker
buckley,
with
some
of
the
small
victim
advocates.
But
you
know,
there's
just
so
much
need
it,
there's
just
not
enough
providers
there,
and
this
certainly
will
help,
fill
the
gap
and
thank
you
all
for
bringing
it
forward
and
I'll
fully
support.
It.
A
Thank
you,
mr
roberts.
Dr
titus.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
again,
I
echo
my
colleagues
comments
regarding
the
bill,
but
I
do
have
some
questions
specific
to
the
bill
section,
one
down
to
number
e
one
of
the
things
that
will
happen
with
this
is
operating
a
call
center
for
the
purpose
of
providing
information
related
to
services.
E
E
Would
the
call
center
be
available
with
a
toll-free
number
and
so
that
those
of
us
who
don't
live
in
clark
county-
and
we
have
horrific
events
happen
throughout
our
state?
Unfortunately
be
able
we'll
have
information
for
at
all
services
in
the
state
or
will
be
specific
to
services
available
within,
say,
clark
county
or
how
will
that
be
operated?.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Through
you
to
the
assemblywoman
one
of
the
things
we've
learned
from
victim
services
is
to
turn
no
victim
away
to
provide
support
services.
So,
for
example,
if
a
victim
called
from
your
part
of
the
state
and
was
just
a
victim
of
crime,
we
can
easily
refer
them
to
the
victims
of
crime.
Compensation
program
help
them
figure
out
how
to
recoup
some
of
their
out-of-pocket
loss
relating
to
their
victimization.
K
In
paragraph
three
sub
three
on
page
three,
it
also
talks
about
going
to
communities
throughout
the
state,
as
the
chief
mentioned,
if
there
was
a
critical
incident,
so
how
we
would
envision.
That
happening
is
to
neil
and
the
team
right.
The
person
from
metro
the
person
with
victims
of
crime
comp
our
behavioral
health
support
person,
would
all
travel
to
the
affected
community.
They
would
then
work
with
whatever
service
providers
are
there
in
terms
of
assisting
both
in
the
short
term
and
the
long
term.
K
It
would
be
a
critical
incident
resource
for
the
other
parts
of
the
state.
Now
this
this
center
will
have
to
be
built
up
right
and
we'll
have
to
make
sure
that
we
can
secure
funding
to
operate
it.
But
our
goal
is
that
we
would
turn
no
victim
away.
E
Follow-Up
manager
so
back
to
the,
and
thank
you
for
that
back
to
the
call
center
we're
hearing
a
lot
of
you
know.
We
have
a
2-1-1,
we're
looking
at
988
numbers
and
I'm
just
wondering:
will
it
be
operated
24
7
will
that
phone,
so
people
can
get
a
resource
or
if
it's
just
an
initial
planning
on
what
this
call
center
is
going
to
be
doing.
K
Yeah,
thank
you
assemblywoman
right
now,
we
accept
calls
during
regular
business
hours.
If
there's
a
critical
incident,
we
have
cell
phone
numbers
and
emergency
contacts
for
everyone
in
charge
of
a
certain
function.
So,
for
example,
if
there
was
a
critical
incident
chief
steinbeck
or
his
team
would
reach
out
to
neil
right,
we
would
then
activate
the
behavioral
health
response,
victims
of
crime
response
and
everybody
on
the
team
we're
just
beginning.
K
It
would
be
wonderful
to
have
a
24-hour
call
center,
but
we
don't
even
we
don't
have
the
funding
for
that
right
now.
We
would
work
in
tandem
with
call
centers
that
do
just
general
information
and
referring
this
center
would
is,
is
solely
for
victims
and
not
general
information
and
referral.
E
A
Not
seeing
any?
Thank
you
very
much,
chief
steinbeck
and
speaker
buckley.
We
know
the
good
work
that
was
done
and
we
appreciate
everyone
putting
aside
things
and
focusing
on
the
best
thing
to
do
at
that
particular
moment
in
time
and
unfortunately
that
incident
has
shown
a
light
on
some
other
things
that
happen
in
the
state.
A
So
the
one
good
thing
that's
coming
out
of
it
is
we're
going
to
have
resources
for
other
victims
it
to
be
able
to
address
what
they're
going
through
also.
So
it's
a
it's
a
sort
of
a
strange
road
on
how
we
got
here,
but
I
believe
the
people
of
the
state
of
nevada
will
be
much
better
served
as
we
try
to
support
these
types
of
efforts
to
give
folks
the
the
resources
that
they
need
to
to
heal
and
to
move
forward.
A
So
I
appreciate
the
work
that's
been
done
on
this
as
we've
had
these
conversations
over
the
the
last
couple
of
years.
So,
committee
members-
I
don't
see
any
other
questions
at
this
time,
so
this
is
the
hearing
for
assembly
bill
481
I'll,
go
ahead
and
open
it
up.
If
I
don't
see
anyone
here
in
the
room
in
support
of
ab481,
so
I'll
go
to
zoom
and
broad
broadcast
services,
do
we
have
anyone
on
the
phone
line
in
support
of
assembly
bill
481.
H
A
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly.
Bill
368
requires
the
issuance
of
bonds
for
environmental
improvement
projects
for
the
lake
tahoe
basin.
Regards
the
fiscal
impact
this
bill
requires
the
issuance
and
not
more
than
100
or
excuse
me,
not
more
than
4
million
of
the
100
million
in
general
obligation
authorized
in
2009
to
provide
money
to
carry
out
certain
environmental
improvement
projects
included
in
the
second
phase
of
the
environmental
improvement
program.
A
J
It's
a
pleasure
to
present
senate
bill
368
this
morning,
senate
bill
368
provides
for
the
issuance
of
4
million
in
general
obligation
authority
for
the
continuation
of
the
lake
tahoe
environmental
improvement
program
commonly
referred
to
as
the
eip.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
lake
tahoe
interim
committee
for
sponsoring
this
important
legislation.
J
The
division
of
state
lands
has
been
the
lead,
coordinated
coordinating
agency
for
the
nevada
share
of
the
eip.
Since
1999
and
nevada's
participation
in
the
iep
continues
to
be
a
success.
The
aip
is
a
well-coordinated
partnership
of
federal
state
and
local
agencies,
the
washoe
tribe
and
the
private
sector.
The
partnership
carries
out
projects
to
protect
and
improve
the
lake
tahoe
environment
and
has
become
a
national
model
for
collaborative
leadership.
J
Nevada
is
a
key
member
whose
commitment
to
the
eip
has
funded
in
excess
of
150
projects
and
focus
areas
of
watersheds,
habitat
and
water
quality,
forest
management
and
recreation.
The
eip
is
the
primary
program
to
achieve
environmental
gains
in
the
lake
tahoe
basin.
A
significant
amount
of
this
work
is
coordinated
to
the
nevada
tahoe
resource
team.
The
state
team
assembled
to
carry
out
this
program
with
representatives
from
the
division
of
state
lands,
division
of
state
parks,
division
of
forestry
and
the
department
of
wildlife.
J
The
team
implements
projects
directly,
as
well
as
awards
grants
to
eip
participating
agencies.
Recent
project
highlights
include
an
award
of
two
water
quality
and
rose
control
grants.
The
first
grant
is
to
washoe
county
for
a
project
in
incline
village,
and
the
second
is
a
grant
to
the
nevada,
tahoe
conservation
district
for
a
project
at
marla
bay
and
douglas
county.
J
These
are
critical
capital
infrastructure
projects
that
capture
storm
water
and
treat
fine
sediment
particles
that
are
known
to
impact
lake
tahoe's
clarity.
These
projects
are
implemented
in
coordination
with
the
tahoe
regional
planning
agency,
trpa
and
the
division
of
environmental
protection
ndp
to
contribute
to
the
region's
clarity
goals.
These
two
projects
are
estimated
to
be
in
excess
of
three
million
dollars.
J
Spooner
lake
front
country
phase,
one
is
a
recreation
enhancement
project
located
at
the
spooner
unit
of
the
lake
tahoe
nevada
state
park.
The
project
includes
construction
of
the
visitor
center
amphitheater
and
entrance
road
realignment.
A
contract
was
successfully
awarded
in
march
and
construction
started
just
yesterday.
J
The
award
for
this
project
was
approximately
3.2
million,
including
a
generous
gift
from
the
tahoe
fund
of
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
specifically
for
the
amphitheater
development
phase.
Two
of
the
project
is
currently
under
design
and
dedicated
funding
will
bring
that
to
100
percent
design
park.
Amenities
in
this
phase
will
include
additional
trails,
comfort,
station
upgrades
picnic
nodes
and
a
non-motorized
boat
launch
at
spooner
lake,
proper
eip
bonds
also
fund
forest
restoration
projects
to
improve
ecosystem
health
and
function
and
to
protect
the
nevada
state
park
from
catastrophic
wildfire.
J
Ndsl
has
currently
secured
approximately
250
000
in
federal
appropriations
from
the
u.s
forest
service
through
lake
tahoe
restoration
act
to
support
fuel
reduction
treatments
and
an
85-acre
fuel
break
on
state
land.
The
team
has
also
been
successful
over
the
years
in
securing
sniploma
funds
to
complete
eip
bonds,
restoring
to
complement
eip
bonds,
restoring
forest
landscape
to
a
more
resilient
condition
throughout
the
state
park,
and
this
way
the
team
leverages
bonds,
as
well
as
other
funding
sources,
to
get
our
work
done,
as
the
agency
has
done
in
many
of
the
previous
legislative
sessions.
J
Since
the
start
of
the
eip,
the
division
of
state
lands
is
requesting
bond
authority
for
the
next
round
of
nevada's
projects,
specifically
senate
bill.
368
authorizes
the
sale
of
4
million
in
obligation
bonds
for
the
continuation
of
eip
projects
in
lake
tahoe
basin.
The
activities
listed
in
senate
bill
368
will
continue
to
focus
on
the
main
areas
of
improving
water
quality
infrastructure,
continued
forest
health
improvement
to
reduce
the
risk
of
wildfire,
improve
habitat
and
improve
state-owned
recreational
facilities
at
lake
tahoe.
J
In
addition
to
improving
the
lake
tahoe
environment,
these
are
active
capital
improvement
projects
would
contribute
which
contribute
to
a
strong
economy.
I
would
also
like
the
committee
to
know
this
is
the
this
request
is
in
the
governor's
cip
budget
passage
of
senate
bill.
368
allows
the
state
to
build
upon
the
success
of
our
past
projects
and
continue
moving
forward
with
our
eip
partners
and
protecting
and
restoring
the
lake
tahoe
basin.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members,
and
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
of
your
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
A
So
I've
been
lucky
enough
to
be
on
the
lake
tahoe
committee
a
couple
of
times,
and
now,
when
I
drive
around
the
lake,
I
I
look
at
drop
inlets
and
I
know
what
rip
rap
is,
and
you
know
it
took
a
little
beauty
out
of
it,
but
it
gave
me
a
little
bit
different
appreciation
for
the
lake.
So
I
I
I
really
appreciate
all
the
education
that
everyone
spent
on
making
sure
that
I
understood
how
important
lake
tahoe
was
so
committee
members
any
questions
of
mr
donna
here
at
this
time.
A
Not
seeing
any.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
donahue.
So
this
is
the
hearing
for
senate
bill
368.
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
up
the
hearing
process,
not
seeing
anyone
here
in
the
room
to
testify
on
senate
bill
368
we'll
go
to
broadcast
services
if
you
could
open
it
up
to
those
in
support
of
senate
bill.
368
please.
H
H
H
J
I'd
just
like
to
say
thank
you
for
hearing
the
bill,
and
I
appreciate
your
comments.
I
I
reflect
often
about
many
of
the
field
trips
that
interim
committee
members
were
on
experienced
the
eip
with
the
nevada,
tahoe
resource
team,
and
I
recall
having
a
lot
of
fun
afternoons
up
there
with
you
as
well.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that
committee
members,
not
seeing
any
other
questions
or
comments,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close.
The
hearing
on
senate
bill,
368
and
there'll
be
further
conversation
on
that
later
this
morning.
Also
that
brings
us
to
assembly
bill
480
revises
provisions
governing
legal
services
for
indigent
defense
defendants.
A
I've
been
informed
that
there's
a
short
presentation.
I
hope
on
assembly
bill
480.
So
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
go
to
miss
kaufman
to
open
it
up,
and
then
we
will
proceed
from
there.
Miss
kaufman.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly,
bill
480
is
a
budget
implementation
bill.
This
legislation
is
in
response
to
the
consent
judgment
in
the
davis
versus
state
case
to
address
disincentives
to
provide
effective
representation
for
indigence
for
the
indigent.
The
money
committee
has
approved
general
fund
appropriations
of
1.2
million
dollars
in
each
year
of
the
2021-22.
F
Excuse
me,
2021-23,
biennium,
to
fund
estimated
support
to
10
rural
counties
stipulated
into
consent,
judgment
and
place.
The
funding
in
the
ifc
contingency
account,
whereupon
the
department
could
request
the
amount
in
the
fund
needed
based
upon
the
the
actual
indigent
defense
service
expenditures
reported
by
the
rural
counties,
and
I
would
note
that
there
does
appear
to
be
a
conceptual
amendment.
That's
been
placed
on
everyone's
desk.
A
N
N
The
assembly
bill
proposes
to
create
independence
from
the
judiciary
for
indigent
defense
providers,
which
is
already
in
practice
in
washoe
and
clark
counties,
remove
economic
disincentive
to
providing
integer,
effective
indigent
defense
representation
and
provide
clarity
of
public
defender
duties.
The
department
believes
the
fiscal
impact
cannot
be
determined
specifically
in
washoe
and
clark.
There
will
be
no
fiscal
impact
as
they
entered
into
plans
in
2008
complying
with
these
requirements
in
the
rural
counties.
N
Arguably,
costs
related
to
the
implementation
of
the
board
of
energy
defense
regulations
were
complement,
contemplated
in
the
creation
of
our
department
by
ab-81
in
2019,
as
the
legislature
created
authority
to
create
a
maximum
contribution
formula
to
determine
the
maximum.
A
county
may
be
required
to
pay
for
indigent
defense
services
and
has
already
been
provided
for
rural
counties
involved
in
davis
v
state
the
aclu
lawsuit
such
costs
would
come
out
of
that
1.2
million
dollars
that
has
been
earmarked
in
the
interim
finance
committee.
N
Contingency
account
to
fund
the
maximum
contribution,
so
little
historical
information
in
2008,
the
nevada
supreme
court
issued
administrative
orders
under
80
kt
411
to
provide
consistency
and
improve
indigent
defense
services
through
the
state.
Ultimately,
clark
and
washoe
counties
entered
plans
for
the
provision
of
the
indigent
defense
services
in
compliance
with
abkt-411
in
these
plans.
Clark
and
washoe
created
independence
from
the
judiciary
in
the
selection
of
council
and
the
approval
of
attorneys
fees
and
case-related
expenses,
which
are
consistent
with
this
bill.
Thus
there'll
be
no
fiscal
impact
for
them.
N
N
We
recommend
indigent
defense
independence
from
the
judiciary,
as
is
proposed
in
this
film.
Each
plan
with
the
assistance
of
the
department
of
energy
and
defense
services
will
set
forth
the
county's
process
for
selection
of
council,
how
they
approve
compensation
of
indigent
defense
providers
and
how
they
pay
and
improve
case-related
expenses.
N
Thus,
this
proposal
follows
the
supreme
court's
recommendation
that
these
duties
should
be
created
by
an
independent
body.
Again,
the
fiscal
impact
cannot
be
determined.
We
believe
there
will
be
no
fiscal
impact
in
washoe
and
clark
because
this
is
already
in
practice
and
in
the
rural
counties
they're
in
the
process
of
creating
their
plans,
which
are
due
september
3rd,
and
in
these
plans
they
have
a
choice
as
to
whether
to
use
the
department
in
these
roles
or
to
create
a
new
position,
and
the
physical
impact
would
be
dependent
upon
the
maximum
contribution
formula.
N
Further.
In
section
6,
the
stipulated
consent
judgment
in
davis
v
state
obligated
the
department
to
recommend
legislation
to
cure
any
defects
which
do
not
comply
with
nrs
180.320..
The
department
is
requesting
to
remove
caps
for
total
payments
for
appointed
indigent
defense
counsel.
It's
believed
that
such
caps
create
an
economic
disincentive,
may
not
provide
adequate
hourly
rates
for
council
and
may
impair
the
ability
of
the
defense
council
to
provide
effective
representation.
N
We
believe
this
will
have
no
fiscal
impact,
as
judges
already
have
the
authority
to
increase
fees
for
appointed
engine
defense
counsel,
if
a
motion
for
excess
fees
is
filed
and
good
cause
shown
such
a
process,
however,
is
time
consuming
and
increased
costs.
So
we
believe
that
section
6
would
actually
streamline
the
process
and
prevent
an
economic
disincentive,
section,
13,
16
and
18
limit
the
duties
of
county
and
state
public
defenders
to
the
definition
of
indigent
defense
services,
as
provided
in
nrs
180.004.
N
N
N
We
are
no
longer
requesting
that
subsection
6
in
section
15
be
deleted
and
we
have
no
objection
to
the
friendly
amendment
from
the
clark
county,
public
clark,
county
defenders
union.
As
for
this,
the
fiscal
impact
cannot
be
determined
again
in
washoe
and
clark.
There
is
no
fiscal
impact
because
they
have
benefited
from
parity
for
public
defenders
for
years.
However,
in
the
rural
counties,
the
fiscal
impact
will
be
dependent
upon
the
application
of
the
maximum
contribution
formula,
and
with
that
it
concludes
my
presentation
and
I'm
open
for
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We
appreciate
that.
I
feel
like
I
got
transported
to
judiciary
for
just
about
a
moment,
but
with
that
I
will
open
it
up
to
any
community
members
that
have
any
questions
at
this
time.
Thank
you
very
much,
miss
reba
for
putting
that
in
non-lawyer
language
for
the
ways
and
means
committee.
We
really
do
appreciate
the
work
done
on
that,
so
that
we
could
wrap
our
arms
around
this.
It's
it's
an
ongoing
process
that
we
need
to
get
through
any
questions,
not
seeing
any
questions.
A
So
with
that,
since
the
presenter
did
bring
up
the
proposed
amendment,
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
bring
up
those
that
are
proposing
the
amendment
have
a
little
bit
more
comprehensive
conversation
about
it.
I
know
this
is
a
little
bit
different
than
we
normally
do
things,
but
since
this
has
been
thoroughly
discussed-
and
I
hope
it's
still
worked
out
and
stays
worked
out
until
the
end
of
this
meeting,
so
with
that
mr
pirro.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair
john
pirro,
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office,
we'd
like
to
thank
director
reba
for
accepting
our
amendment.
The
amendment
does,
as
director
riva
said,
provides
for
pay
parity.
Both
our
unions
and
clark
and
washoe
have
fought
for
pay.
Parity
and
pay.
Parity
is
very
essential
to
making
sure
you
have
quality
candidates
on
both
sides
of
the
aisle
and
making
sure
the
scales
remain
balanced.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
just
to
clarify.
Now
you
support
the
bill
as
amended
or
if
the
amendment
is
is.
O
Accepted
john
piero
for
the
record:
yes,
assemblyman
roberts,
we
do
okay.
Thank
you.
If
I
may
just
briefly
comment
on
one
other
thing
as
director
reba
said
in
section
one,
when
we're
talking
about
independence
from
the
judiciary,
that
is
very
important
for
a
public
defense
system
to
have.
We
have
had
issues
throughout
the
country
and
even
here
in
clark
county.
So
I
just
want
to
take
us
back
quite
a
few
years.
Back
in
the
day.
O
Long
before
my
time
at
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office,
we
used
to
assign
baby
lawyers
to
serious
cases,
murder,
sex
assault
and
the
county
got
the
pant
suit
off
for
about
five
million
dollars
when
jerry
spence
came
from
wyoming
and
filed
suit
in
a
case
called
roberto
miranda
during
that
suit,
the
national
legal
aid
and
defenders
association
came
into
clark
county
and
did
a
full
review
on
our
office.
What
they
found
was
that
we
had
judicial
capture,
which
means
we
did
not
have
adequate
independency
from
the
judiciary.
O
Our
attorneys
at
that
time
were
more
interested
in
pleasing
the
judge
and
keeping
the
judge
happy
than
providing
zealous
representation
that
is
required
and,
as
vice
chair
monroe
moreno,
has
observed
over
her
career.
She
has
seen
attorneys
that,
for
lack
of
a
better
word
are
terrible
in
court
and
attorneys
that
are
good,
and
it's
important
that
you
have
more
good
attorneys
than
terrible
attorneys,
because
that's
what
adequately
preserves
the
system
that
we
hold
so
dear.
A
A
So
with
that
typically,
we
would
have
support
opposition
and
and
neutral,
and
if
they
had
a
problem
with
the
bill,
they
would
have
been
in
opposition.
It
seems
as
though
the
parties
have
come
together
before
they
got
in
the
room
and
have
come
to
some
agreement.
Everyone
is
willing
to
look
at
this
amendment
going
forward.
A
So
with
that
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
assemblyville
480..
We
will
go
ahead
and
open
it
up.
Those
that
were
in
the
room
have
already
shared
their
testimony,
we'll
open
it.
Oh
please
come
back
one
more.
B
E
H
I
I
A
number
of
the
elements
of
this
bill
have
been
called
for
in
various
supreme
court
orders
and
through
our
indigent
defense
commission,
which,
which
recently
we
discontinued
with
the
arrival
of
the
department
of
intense
services
on
the
scene.
But
we
do
support
this
measure
as
a
way
to
continue
to
improve
the
delivery
of
energy
and
defense
services
in
the
state.
H
C
My
name
is
amy
coffey
a-m-y-c-o-f-f-e-e,
I'm
a
clark
county,
special
public
defender
and
I'm
a
member
of
the
clark
county
defenders
union.
I
would
just
like
to
echo
the
statements
of
mr
perel
and
ms
burchie
and
we
fully
support
this
bill.
Thank
you
and
I
would
note
I
originally
signed
in
in
opposition,
but
because
of
the
acceptance
of
the
amendment
I
am
now
testifying
in
support.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
clarification.
Others
in
support
broadcast
services.
H
C
N-A-D-I-A-H-O-J-J-A-T
and
I'm
testifying
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
defenders
union,
I'm
a
chief
deputy
public
defender
and
I've
done
trial
and
appellate
work
on
behalf
of
indian
defendants
for
10
years.
I
I
support
this
bill
with
the
amendment
I
had
previously
signed
up
to
oppose
the
bill,
but
with
the
adoption
of
the
amendment
I
do
support
the
bill.
I
believe
that
it
will
help
make
sure
that
we
have
effective
and
zealous
indigenous
defense
here
in
nevada.
C
H
C
Good
morning
my
name
is
kara
simmons,
that's
k-a-r-a-s-I-m-m-o-n-f,
and
I'm
testifying
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
defenders
union,
I'm
a
deputy
public
defender
and
I've
been
with
the
office
working
on
behalf
of
indigenous
defendants
for
over
three
and
a
half
years.
I
had
also
previously
signed
in
in
opposition
of
this
bill
that
now
support
it
with
the
amendment.
E
C
A
world
where
a
poor
mentally
ill
person
could
not
receive
the
same
zealous
advocacy
as
someone
who
is
financially
well
lost.
As
someone
who
grew
up
poor,
I
know
how
important
it
is
to
have
someone
on
your
side,
someone
who
is
empathetic
and
fighting
for
you.
That
is
why
I
went
to
law
school
to
be
a
public
defender,
and
that's
why
I
came
to
this
office.
C
That
is
why
we
need
to
keep
pay
parity
with
the
prosecutors
and
we
need
to
offer
the
same
benefits
to
graduates
so
that
we
can
get
people
who
are
dedicated
to
public
service,
because
what
we
do
is
really
hard.
As
of
today,
I
have
169
open
cases
and
1
290
closed
cases,
and
I'm
someone
who's
only
been
here
for
three
and
a
half
years.
C
Our
dedication
to
our
clients
is
what
brings
us
into
this
office
outside
normal
working
hours?
What
drives
us
to
stay
late
into
the
night
and
come
in
on
the
weekends?
We
need
to
make
sure
we
keep
quality
attorneys
here
that
are
dedicated
to
this
level
of
service,
which
is
why
I
am
testifying
in
support
of
the
bill
at
the
amendment.
Thank
you.
A
H
C
Good
morning
my
name
is
robson
hauser
r-o-b-s-o-n-h-a-u-s-e-r,
I'm
a
deputy
public
defender
with
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office.
I
have
been
there
for
the
last
five
and
a
half
years.
I'm
also
calling
to
testify
on
in
support
of
the
bill
as
amended.
I
believe
it
is
important
to
continue
to
attract
talented
attorneys
to
our
office
or,
as
mr
piro
had
put
it,
we
might
get
the
pants
suit
off
of
us
again
in
the
future.
C
A
H
C
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that
miss
reba,
did
you
have
any
closing
comments.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
working
with
everyone.
It's
nice,
when
an
amendment
switches,
all
the
opposition
to
support
and
everybody
can
walk
out
of
the
room
arm
and
arm
and
stay
that
way
until
it
gets
out
of
the
assembly.
Please,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
480
and
committee
members
you'll
be
seeing
that
one
again
soon.
F
Thank
you.
Madam
chair
assembly,
bill
482,
prohibits
the
secretary
of
state
from
renewing
a
state
business
license
if
the
state
controller
has
notified
the
secretary
of
state
that
the
person
who
holds
the
state
business
license,
owes
debt
to
the
state
agency,
and
that
has
been
assigned
to
the
state
controllers
for
collection
and
the
person
has
not
satisfied
the
debt
entered
into
agreement
with
the
state
controller
for
payment
of
the
debt
or
demonstrated
the
state
controller.
F
F
D
A
Why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
your
comments?
Let's
get
those
on
the
record
and
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
have
we
have
another
person
willing
to
wishing
to
make
comment
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
to
the
committee
for
questions.
So
if
you
could
please.
D
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
here
today
to
discuss
ab-482,
as
was
just
mentioned.
D
Furthermore,
we
question
the
liability
of
not
renewing
a
license,
for,
let's
say
a
corporation
with
many
shareholders
because
of
one
person's
debt.
The
office
currently
has
a
way
to
provide
information
to
the
controller's
office
regarding
state
business
licenses
and
we
understand
from
the
controller's
office.
This
process
is
somewhat
new
and
there
has
not
been
a
lot
of
volume.
Therefore,
we
can
manage
this
new
legislation
without
cost
to
our
office
and
we
will
absolutely
partner
with
the
comptroller's
office
on
this
bill.
Thank
you.
A
Very
much
and
as
is
normal,
this
time
of
session
bills
do
pop
up
and
come
forward,
and
we
know
that
you're
going
to
need
some
time
to
digest
it,
and
I
hope,
with
some
of
the
conversations
this
morning,
there'll
be
a
little
bit
better
understanding
of
the
problem
that
has
arisen
and
how
and
this
this
proposed
solution-
and
I
appreciate
the
secretary
remaining
in
neutral
for
right
now
as
we
move
forward.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
for
sharing
your
information
with
that.
I
have
mr
mcallister
in
front
of
us,
mr
mcallister.
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
rusty
mcallister
with
nevada
state
flcio.
I
am
also
an
appointed
member
of
the
division
of
industrial
relations
advisory
board.
This
bill.
I
had
talked
to
assemblywoman
carlton
about
this
issue
a
while
back
each
quarter
when
we
meet,
we
are
faced
with
a
a
report
from
the
dir
of
those
outstanding
fines
or
penalties
that
they
have
been
issued
to
employers
that
are
have
not
been
collected,
that
they
refuse
to
pay
or
they've.
Just
not
they've
chosen
not
to
pay
and
each
quarter.
P
We're
asked
to
approve
of
write-offs
for
this
debt
because
it's
it
may
have
been
for
an
extended
period
of
time,
and
so
we're
just
asked
to
write
it
off
and
we've
been
faced
with
this,
for
I
mean
I've
been
on
this
committee
now
for
for
several
years
and
and
it's
not
getting
any
better,
we
are
continually
faced
with
this
these
write-offs,
so
we
have
asked
we
had
asked
the
the
dir.
P
P
I've
got
a
list
here
of
the
the
dirs.
Uninsured
employers
claim
account
with
aged
receivables,
so
these
are
and
it
breaks
it
down
from
the
claims
that
are
one
year.
Two
years,
three
years,
four
years
and
five
or
plus
years,
all
total
they've
asked
us
to
write
off
twenty
million
five
hundred
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
fines.
P
P
The
problem
that
we
have
kind
of
addressed
or
or
looked
at
in
in
trying
to
do
this
this
bill
or
this
reserve
re
trying
to
come
to
resolve
here
is
many
of
those
businesses
that
we've
been
asked
to
write
off
are
still
in
business,
they're
stewards,
it's
the
state
of
nevada
they're,
not
paying
their
fines,
they're
not
being
collected,
but
they
keep
getting
their
business
license
renewed,
and
when
we
talked
to
the
controller's
office
they
said.
A
And
thank
you
very
much,
mr
mcallister,
and
thank
you
for
having
this
issue
bubble
up.
I
know
years
ago,
when
I
was
at
the
other
end
of
the
building,
we
had
problems
with
people
paying
their
fines,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
perfectly
clear.
These
are
fines
that
are
associated
with
workers,
compensation
cases
where
workers
were
either
put
in
harm
in
harm's
way
and
or
hurt.
So
this
isn't
just
an
administrative
type
issue.
A
It's
my
understanding
and
my
experience
that
it
takes
a
lot
to
get
a
fine
in
workers
comp
in
this
state.
So
if
you
could
just
make
sure
everyone
understands
exactly,
you
know
that
process
and
what
what
those
ramifications?
Why
those
fines
are
there?
So
it's
not
just
a
simple:
you
didn't
fill
out
the
paperwork
correctly.
P
Madam
chair
rusty
mcallister
for
the
record
the
amount
of
the
write-offs
like
just
in
this
last
report
that
we
were
asked
to
write
off
this
over
a
million
thirty
two
thousand
dollars:
213
businesses.
This
comes
from
osha
in
las
vegas,
osha
and
reno
workers,
comp
for
northern
nevada
and
workers,
comp
in
southern
nevada,
both
in
premium
where
they
haven't
paid
their
workers,
comp
premiums
or
administrative
fines
for
workers
compensation.
P
So
it
is
a
across
the
board
in
the
state
not
just
in
southern
nevada
or
northern,
all
corners
of
the
state,
and
it
deals
with
workers,
compensation
and
osha.
Both.
A
A
So
with
that,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
the
committee
members
and
some
who
may
not
have
been
around
workers
comp
or
osha
through
the
commerce
and
labor
committee
or
in
other
communities.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
all
that
background
information
on
how
how
this
came
to
be
and
the
discussion
points
that
were
around
it.
So
I'd
be
happy
to
open
it
up
for
questions
from
committee
members
at
this
time
and
also
to
our
representative
from
the
secretary
of
state's
office.
A
A
I'd
like
you
to
consider
the
things
that
have
brought
up-
and
I
will
ask
that
you
and
mr
mcallister
have
a
conversation
about
about
this,
but
we
feel
that
it's
important,
for
we
ask
everyone
else
to
pay
their
fines
and
fees,
and
we
just
had
a
bill
last
night
about
speeding
tickets
and
people
not
paying
that
and
the
things
that
happen.
So
there
needs
to
be
consequences
for
those
who
don't
pay
their
fines
and
specifically
fines
for
doing
something
wrong
to
the
state.
So
hopefully
we
can
continue
the
conversation
and
and
go
from
there.
A
So
did
you
have
anything
from
our
representative.
D
Thank
you,
chair
carlton.
I
do
appreciate
that
and
we
we
absolutely
will
have
a
conversation
with
mr
mcallister
and
and
kind
of
work
out
the
king.
So
I
think
our
concern
again
we're
supportive
of
the
concept
and
we
understand
the
problem,
there's
just
some
loopholes
in
in
the
way
it's
written.
So
if
we
can
work
through
those,
then
we're
happy.
Thank.
A
You
and
we
appreciate
everyone's
assistance.
We
share
the
information
that
we
have
when
we
move
forward
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everything
gets
addressed
as
we
as
we
address
this.
So
any
other
questions,
mr
oh
I'll,
go
to
miss
gorlow
first
and
then
I'll
go
to
mr
roberts.
A
K
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assemblywoman.
Gorlo.
Let
me
pull
this
up
right
here.
Real,
quick
and
I'll.
Just
give
you
a
just
when
I,
when
you
say
an
average
I'm
I
can
just
go
down
the
list
here
of
this
million
35.
P
It
ranges
from
one
business
here
has
31
819
dollars
in
fines,
others
have
as
low
as
135
dollars.
It
looks
like
a
good
chunk
of
them.
Are
you
know,
500
fines?
K
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
just
curiosity
on
the
fine
standpoint
is:
is
there
an
appeal
process,
so
they
assess
a
fine
or
the
board
or
whoever
says
it's
the
fine,
and
is
there
a
subsequent
appeal
process
and
then
would
it
would
it
go
to
the
state
treasurer's
office
would
be
notified
once
that
appeals
process
is
exhausted
or
what's
what
would
be
the
process
for
that,
and
then
it
would
trigger
the
the
lack
of
renewal
for
the
license
just
trying
to
understand
it.
P
Those
are
those
appeals
are
conducted
through
the
division
of
industrial
relations,
once
they've
gone
through
their
appeals
and
and
the
fine
has
been
withheld
or
are
imposed,
then
the
division
of
industrial
relations
will,
to
best
my
knowledge,
invoice
them
with
the
amount,
that's
fined
and
if
they
can't
collect
that,
ultimately,
then
down
the
road
they
submit
that
to
the
controller's
office
in
an
attempt
to
collect
the
debt.
M
I
I
did
thank
you,
madam
chair.
My
question
is
we
just
talked
about.
These
are
all
it
sounds
like
workers,
comp
and
osha,
but
it
wasn't
very
clear
in
here
where
that
was.
I
know
it
talks
about
agencies
under
nrs
353c.
Could
you
just
point
to
me
where
it
it
limits
this
to
the
the
workers,
comp
and
and
osha
fines.
P
Madam
chair,
to
assemblyman
haven
the
way
that
I
read
the
bill,
it
does
not
specify
out
specifically
workers
compensation
or
osha
violations
for
the
fines
for
those.
It
basically
states
that
if
you
owe
a
debt
to
the
aid
to
an
agency
within
the
state
of
nevada,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
then
the
controller
would
be
responsible
for
trying
to
collect
that.
M
Hypothetically
speaking,
if
they
move
locations-
and
they
didn't
know
they
had
this
fine
when
they
go
to
renew
their
business
license,
would
they
have
the
opportunity
to
like
the
135
dollar,
one
just
pay,
the
the
fee
online
or
or,
however,
that
would
work
through
the
secretary
of
state's
office
at
that
time
that
they're
renewing?
So
they
could
renew.
C
A
You
look
at
under
subsection.
One
item
b
entered
into
an
agreement
for
the
payment
of
the
debt.
If
they
go
to
renew
their
license,
the
debt
is
larger
than
they
can
handle.
If
they
enter
into
a
payment
plan
for
the
debt,
then
they
would
be
allowed
to
renew
their
license.
That
way,
we
would
have
an
agreement.
We
don't
want
to
necessarily
put
people
out
of
business.
We
just
want
them
to
fulfill
their
responsibility
in
paying
their
fines,
so
we
would
give
them
an
opportunity
to
set
up
a
payment
plan
to
be
able
to
address
that.
A
If
they
wanted
to
set
up
a
payment
plan
during
the
process
and
then
renew
their
license
and
keep
up
with
their
payment
plan
as
long
as
they
stayed
current
on
the
payment
plan,
when
they
went
to
renew
again,
they
would
be
in
compliance
and
be
able
to
renew
their
license.
So
we
give
people
an
opportunity
to
make
payments
if
it
is
a
large
amount
on
a
fine,
but
once
they've
been
through
in
the
workers
comp
case
the
appeals
process,
they
would
be
very
well
aware
of
what
their
responsibilities
are.
A
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and,
and
I
agree
with
you
on
that
I
do
want
to
be
able
to
collect
these
fines.
My
concern
was,
though,
is
under
the
payment
plan
that
goes
through
the
state
controllers
office,
and
so
now
we're
going
to
the
secretary
of
state.
So
I
just
want
to
ensure
that
there's
going
to
be
some
interactions.
So
we
we
don't
interrupt
the
business
and
you
know
I'm
just
trying
to
trying
to
work
through
the
weeds
here,
because
it
does.
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assemblyman
haven,
my
understanding,
and
certainly
it's
not
my
role
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
division
of
industrial
relations,
but
I
will
say
that
during
our
committee
meetings
we
did
have
the
state
comptroller's
office
come
representatives
from
their
office
come
and
there
was
a
lot
of
coordination.
There
is
a
lot
of
coordination
between
the
dir
and
the
state
controller's
office
in
in
trying
to
collect
these
these
fines
or
these
debt.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
a
couple
of
questions.
If
I
might
first,
mr
mcallister,
you
just
mentioned
coordination
between
the
dir
and
the
controller's
office
on
collecting
debt.
Was
there
any
real
coordination
between
that
those
two
and
the
secretary
of
state's
office,
because
I'm?
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
I'm
not
seeing
the
agency
that
you're
really
affecting
I'm
not
sure
that
sure
they
were
consulted.
So
was
there
any
con
consulting
with
the
secretary
of
state
before
this
bill
happened
to
see
how?
Maybe
this
problem
could
be
fixed
without
legislation.
P
G
P
Not
a
privy
to
that
those
discussions
would
have
taken
place
out
of
my
purview.
A
And
dr
titus,
if
I
could
address
that,
because
this
bill
is
a
committee
on
ways
and
means
bill,
the
issue
was
brought
to
the
chair.
The
chair
shared
the
information
with
legal
legal
sent
the
bill
out.
It's
been
moving
very
quickly.
We
have
the
secretary
of
state's
office
here
there
will
be
continued
conversation
moving
forward.
This
was
an
option
that
was
presented
in
order
to
be
able
to
hold
folks
accountable.
This
isn't
the
that
time.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
follow
up
on
that.
So,
as
this
conversation
then
continues,
I
I
absolutely
agree
that
we
need
to
have
a
process
of
holding
people
accountable
and
picking
up
these
bad
debts.
We
hear
about
this
every
session,
so
it
has
to
have
some
teeth,
and
I
absolutely
appreciate
that
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
the
conversation
is
going
to
continue,
because
sometimes
we
just
need
to
a
template
to
work
forward
to
see
what
really
will
work
to
help
to
solve
these
problems.
E
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Miss
monroe
moreno.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
opportunity
for
the
the
question.
As
I
look
at
section
two
subsection
five,
it
appears
there's
already
a
relationship
in
place
where
it
states
that
the
secretary,
the
estate
controller,
shall
notify
the
licensing
agency.
If
the
licensee
does
not
pay
the
debt
that
has
been
assigned
to
the
state
controller
for
collection.
P
Madam
chair,
to
assemblywoman
moreno,
my
understanding
is
that
that's
already
current
statute.
This
is
to
help
the
specify
that
the
secretary
of
state's
office
would
be
the
ones
who
who
would
not
renew
a
license.
I'm
assuming
that
there's
in
the
state
that
there's
other
forms
of
licensees
that
are
not
controlled
by
the
secretary
of
state's
office
or
or
licensed
by
the
secretary
of
state's
office.
So
this
specifies
the
secretary
of
state
with
regards
to
agencies,
so
that's
the
best
I
can
interpret
it
too.
C
Moreno,
just
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
also
an
existing
language
in
nrs
when
you
go
down
to
subsection
eight
of
that
same
section,
that
the
state
controllers
have
verified
with
the
secretary
of
state,
the
information
related
to
the
state
business
license
for
each
licensee.
So.
A
D
If
I
may,
the
the
current
statute-
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
my
recollection
in
reading
it
is
that
the
secretary
of
state,
while
that
language
is
there,
it
applies
specifically
to
regulatory
agencies
and
that's
why
the
secretary
of
state's
office
has
not
been
doing
this
up
until
now,
so
we
we
will
work
with
them,
we'll
figure
out
a
way
to
to
to
get
past
all
of
those
concerns
and
see
how
we
can
make
this
work.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
mcallister.
P
Madam
sheriff,
I
might,
this
would
probably
be
a
whole
lot
more
proficient
in
managing
this
language
in
this
bill.
If
the
secretary
of
state's
office
worked
and
conversed
directly
with
the
head
of
the
division
of
industrial
relations,
victoria,
carrion
and
the
controller's
office,
as
opposed
to
having
you
know,
just
your
joe
average
citizen
here
as
your
intermediary,
I'm
sure
that
they
can
work
on
language.
Each
of
them
has
legal
counsel
to
work
on
language
that
would
work
and
be
beneficial
for
all
three
divisions.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mcallister.
We
have
a
blank
black
screen
on
the
right
of
our
zoom,
I'm
not
sure.
If
there's
someone
there
wishing
to
be
recognized,
it's
hard
to.
A
D
Good
morning,
good
morning,
this
is
this
is
lorraine.
I'm
a
staff,
member
of
the
cancer
registry-
and
I
was
just
zooming
in
as
a
spectator,.
D
C
A
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if
it
was
something
we
we
needed
to
address,
we
were
there
so
with
that.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mcallister.
Thank
you
to
our
representative
from
the
secretary
of
state's
office
we'll
go
ahead
and
make
sure
we
put
the
right
people
in
the
right
zoom
room
to
have
conversations
about
this
moving
forward
to
be
able
to
address
the
issues
of
these
dollars
being
written
off
from
the
state
rather
than
coming
to
the
state.
A
So
with
that,
seeing
no
other
questions
or
comments
from
any
other
committee
members
at
this
time,
I
believe
we
can
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
to
the
phone
lines.
This
is
the
hearing
for
assemblyville
482
broadcast
services.
Do
we
have
anyone
in
support
of
assembly,
bill
482.
H
H
C
Barry
duncan
b-a-r-r-y-d-u-n-c-a-n
eric
carlton
members
of
the
committee
barry
duncan
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
taxpayers
association.
I
apologize.
I
I
an
issue
just
arose
with
some
language
pertaining
to
the
bill
this
morning,
or
I
would
have
notified
you
earlier.
C
C
This
would
mean
that,
as
our
understanding
under
our
understanding,
currently
that
a
taxpayer
petitioning
for
redesi
redetermination
of
an
audit
deficiency
would
lose
their
business
license.
That
is
that
is
our
concern
pertaining
to
the
bill.
We
certainly
believe
it
is
wholly
appropriate
that
any
individual
or
company
that
owns
a
fine
through
dir
and
other
agencies
should
be
obligated
to
pay
those
funds.
Our,
as
I
said,
our
concern
pertains
solely
to
the
language
and
the
issue.
C
I
just
spoke
to
again
barry
duncan.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
Well,
that
would
be
correct.
That
would
be
correct
in
the
sense
that
our
our
concern
would
be
that
somebody
that
would
be
petitioning
for
redetermination
as
they
are
for
an
audit
deficiency,
as
they're
entitled
to
under
law
would
be
would
be,
would
lose
their
business
license
as
the
bill
is
currently
drafted.
A
So
if
I
could
clarify
with
you,
mr
duncan,
if
that
was
never
turned
over
to
the
state
comptroller's
office,
it
would
not
happen
so
if
they
were
in
negotiations
with
the
tax
department-
and
there
was
an
appeal
process
and
they
were
working
through
that
redeterminant
redetermination,
their
information
wouldn't
have
been
shared
with
the
comptroller's
office.
So
therefore
the
first
domino
would
not
fall
moving
forward.
Do
you
would
you
understand
that
the
same
way.
C
Again,
we
would
not,
but
I
would
be
happy
to
to
further
meet
with
the
comptroller's
office
to
make
sure
I
have
a
more
complete
understanding
of
that.
As
I
said,
this
concern
just
arose
this
morning.
A
That's
why
we,
the
the
safeguard
of
being
having
your
information
turned
over
to
the
comptroller's
office,
is
a
bad
debt
would
be
the
first
step
so
if
they
never
made
that
first
step,
but
we
will
clarify
we'll
get
someone
in
tax
and
we'll
we'll
clarify
that
issue
before
we
move
forward,
but
thank
you
for
bringing
it
to
light,
and
if
you
would
please
do
the
chair
favor
if
you
would
send
an
email
to
me
with
your
concerns
so
that
I
have
something
actually
in
writing
to
put
in
the
file
as
we
move
forward.
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
duncan.
So
with
that
broadcast
services,
could
we
go
to
anyone
else
in
opposition?
A
H
Chair,
if
there
are
no
callers
in
up
in
neutral
in
the
queue
to
testify
on
ab482.
A
All
right
with
that,
are
there
any
closing
comments
either
from
the
secretary
of
state's
office
or
from
mr
mcallister,
not
seeing
any
closing
comments.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
flexibility
as
things
move
quickly
through
this
process
and
issues
pop
up.
So
with
that,
we
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
482
and
we'll
make
sure
that
a
little
more
work
gets
done
so
that
everyone
is
comfortable
moving
forward.
A
F
A
You
very
much
committee
members:
are
there
any
questions
or
comments
at
this
time,
not
seeing
any?
This
is
a
bill
from
ways
and
means,
so
this
would
be
a
do
pass.
I
would
accept
a
motion
to
do
pass
from
miss
monroe
moreno,
a
second
from
miss
benitez
thompson,
any
questions
or
comments
in
the
motion,
dr
titus.
E
A
Okay
with
that
any
other
questions
or
comments,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
in
opposition
hearing
no
opposition.
Currently
it
passes
unanimously
of
the
members
present.
So
with
that
we'll
move
forward,
I
was
going
to
assign
this
to
dr
titus,
but
since
we're
not
sure
where
she's
going
to
be
on
the
floor,
you
can't
have
someone
who
might
be
in
opposition
handling
the
bill
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
miss
monroe
moreno
to
handle
it.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly,
bill
479
creates
the
position
of
chief
investment
officer
as
a
member
of
the
executive
staff
of
the
public
employees.
Retirement
within
nrs
286
160.
tina
list
was
the
individual
who
presented
this
bill
and
there
were
no
individuals
who
were
testified
and
support
opposition
or
neutral.
A
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
assembly.
Bill
481
requires
the
division
of
child
and
family
services,
the
department
of
health
and
human
services
to
extend
the
extent
money
is
practical.
Many
is
available
for
the
purposes
and
in
collaboration
with
persons
and
entities
that
advocate
for
the
need
of
victims
to
designate
a
statewide
center
to
provide
assistance
to
victims.
F
This
particular
bill
is,
in
tandem
with
the
money
committee's
decisions
to
provide
funding
for
two
positions
for
this.
For
the
vegas
strong
resiliency
center.
The
individual
who
testified
on
this
bill
was
ross
armstrong.
Along
with
barbara
buckley
and
chief
steinbeck.
There
were
no
individuals
that
testified
in
support
opposition
or
neutral,
and
there
are
no
amendments.
A
A
A
F
Assembly
bill
368
requires
the
issuance
of
four
million
dollars
in
environmental
improvement
project
bonds
for
the
lake
tahoe
basin.
The
individual
who
testified
on
this
bill
was
charlie,
donahue
from
the
division
of
state
lands,
and
there
were
no
individuals
who
testified
and
support
opposition
or
neutral
in
this
bill.
A
A
Seeing
none?
I
would
accept
a
motion
to
do
pass
from
miss
monroe
moreno
second
from
ms
benitez
thompson,
seeing
no
one
else
wishing
to
be
recognized
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
any
opposition
hearing
no
opposition
passes
unanimously
of
the
members
present.
Mr
watts.
I'm
gonna
hand
this
one
back
to
you.
Okay,
you're,
welcome
yeah.
We've
got
that
one
and
then
I
believe
assembly
bill
480.
F
A
So
without
seeing
any
other
questions,
the
the
chair
would
include
the
proposed
amendment.
So
the
motion
would
be
an
amended
new
pass
I'll
accept
that
motion
from
ms
benitez
thompson,
a
second
from
miss
monroe,
moreno,
any
questions
or
comments
on
the
motion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
any
in
opposition,
dr
titus,
in
opposition.
A
So
with
that
passes,
passes
the
committee,
and
I
will
take
this
floor
statement
and
be
very
nice
to
chair
yeager
to
make
sure
he
can
back
me
up
so
with
that
motion
passes.
So
I
believe
we
are
good
there,
so
we
can
close
that
one
and,
as
I
said,
assembly
bill,
482
we'll
put
some
folks
in
a
zoom
room
and
we'll
make
sure
that
we've
are
doing
exactly
what
we
think
we
need
to
do
to
address
unpaid
fines
in
the
state.
A
H
H
C
C
We
have
spent
decades
crafting
this
legislation
worked
with
stakeholders
all
over
the
state
to
fine-tune
it,
and
our
coalition's
recent
poll
shows
that
73
percent
of
nevadans
across
all
political,
religious,
gender
and
age
lines
want
this
option
for
qualified
patients.
There
are
terminally
ill
people
who
may
not
live
to
see
the
next
legislative
session
who
are
going
to
suffer
between
now
and
2023
without
this
option
being
available
members.
Madam
chair,
we
plead
with
you
to
release
or
vote
on
this
bill
and
let
democracy
play
out.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
committee
members
that
accomplishes
our
work
for
this
morning.
We
have
a
joint
meeting
this
evening
with
senate
finance.
So
therefore,
today
I
will
be
adjourning,
but
that
will
be
very
rare
in
the
near
future.
We
will
typically
recess
so
that
we
can
come
back
and
continue
work,
but
today
we
will
adjourn
since
we're
going
into
a
separate
meeting
this
evening.
So
with
that
we
are.