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A
Welcome
to
the
senate
commission
on
our
senate
committee
on
education.
We
welcome
those
that
are
present
here
in
carson
city,
as
well
as
online
and
by
phone
a
little
secretary.
Please
call
the
role
vice
chair,
john
daralu,
senator.
A
Senator
hammond's
here
and
senator
donate
is
presenting
a
bill
so
just
marking,
when
he
gets
here
great,
we
do
have
a
quorum.
Just
a
reminder.
Keep
yourselves
muted
when
not
speaking,
silence
your
electronic
devices
we
haven't
had
to
do
that
all
year,
but
now
that
we
have
people
in
the
in
the
actual
room,
make
sure
your
silence,
your
devices
and
those
that
are
online
if
they
stay
muted,
unless
they're
speaking
and
for
all
individuals.
President
armenia,
please
always
keep
your
face
coverings
on
and
maintain
social
distancing.
A
Our
committee
information
is
available
on
nellis,
as
are
all
the
materials
for
the
meeting
those
wishing
to
give
public
testimony.
You
must
register
to
participate
through
nellis
and
select
the
preferred
method.
If
you
register
make
sure
committee
by
phone,
you
will
receive
an
email
confirmation
with
call-in
information.
A
A
Just
just
for
for
information,
we
do
have
a
capacity
of
nine
seats,
so
I
know
that
as
we
get
more
and
more
requests
for
people
to
be
in
the
room,
if
you
register
you
get
put
on
the
list,
if
somebody
just
wants
to
come
in
and
there's
room,
then
they'll
be
allowed
in
or
they'll
be
put
on
the
list,
but
the
ones
that
register
online
will
be
at
the
have
the
priorities
and
check
with
sergeant
of
ours.
Most.
A
Those
of
you
that
are
here
already
know
this,
but
anyone
wishing
to
come
in
make
sure
you
check
in
with
the
sergeant-at-arms
at
the
door
and
if
it's
a
full
capacity
you
may
be
placed
in
the
waiting
list,
any
available
seats
will
be
given
to
those
who
have
read
this
pre-registered
through
nellis.
First,
then,
anyone
already
approved
to
be
in
the
building.
A
So
that
means,
if
you're
not
approved,
to
be
in
the
building
and
you're
in
the
building,
then
you
should
be
there
and
please
wait
till
sergeant
ron
confirms
that
and
okay
and
we
still
have
all
our
testimonies
and
comments
that
can
be
done
through
the
phone.
So
with
that,
we're
going
to
begin
with
our
first
bill,
we're
going
to
start
out
of
order,
we're
going
to
start
with
ab254
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
top
of
the
agenda
and
go
through
there.
C
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
for
the
record.
My
name
is
jason
fryerson
assemblyman
for
district
8
down
in
clark,
county
and
speaker
of
the
nevada
state
assembly.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today
in
consideration
of
assembly
bill
which
addresses
a
number
of
policy
changes
regarding
compensation
of
student
athletes
at
the
post-secondary
level.
C
With
me
this
afternoon,
I
have
mr
sebastian
ross
and
miss
karina
armstrong,
both
of
whom
are
students
from
unlv
who,
with
the
chairs
indulgence,
will
assist
me
with
the
presentation
when
I
say
assist
me
with
the
presentation
in
no
uncertain
terms.
We
are
here
because
of
them.
C
They
have
been
working
on
this
and
I
actually
met
mr
ross
some
years
ago
at
unlv,
and
this
is
something
that,
as
you'll
hear
from
the
students
is
something
they
have
worked
on
for
some
time
and
feel
very
strong
about,
and
I
was
pleased
to
have
them
and,
and
quite
frankly,
again
am
here
with
this
bill
because
of
them
a
little
background
information
college
athletes
earn
billions
of
dollars
annually
for
their
schools,
television
networks,
apparel
companies
and
the
national
collegiate
athletic
association
nc2a.
C
C
C
This
lack
of
fairness
for
college
for
the
college
athlete
has
been
a
content
contentious
issue
for
many
years,
although
this
is
likely
to
change
soon.
Nc2A
rules
that
are
still
in
place
prohibit
these
athletes
from
profiting
from
their
names,
images
and
likeness.
C
There
are
three
or
four
things
that
are
happening
at
the
national
level
that
have
bearing
on
this
legislation
that
that
I'd
like
to
highlight
the
first
was
the
step
california
took
with
its
fair
play:
fair
pay-to-play
law
enacted
in
september
of
2019.,
that
law
lets
student
athletes,
endorse
products
and
use
their
name,
sport
and
school
to
identify
themselves,
but
prevents
them
from
using
school
logos
or
other
trademark
property
in
the
endorsements.
C
This
action
lost
a
flurry
of
debate
about
what
rights
student
athletes
should
have
and
the
rules
that
the
nc2a
has
had
in
place
for
decades.
Almost
immediately
colorado
and
florida
followed
california
in
passing
similar
legislation
and
by
the
fall
of
last
year,
33
other
states
had
introduced
related
bills.
C
In
response,
the
nc2a
raised
concerns
about
having
to
deal
with
the
patchwork
of
state
laws
and
ask
united
states
congress
to
adopt
federal
legislation.
Addressing
this
matter,
congress
did
did
respond
with
the
senate,
commerce
and
judiciary
committees,
both
holding
hearings
on
student
athlete
compensation.
C
Among
other
things,
the
bill
will
give
athletes
revenue
sharing
rights
and
allow
them
to
market
their
name
image
or
likeness
with
minimal
restrictions.
It
also
calls
for
a
lifetime
scholarship
for
lifetime
scholarships
and
increase
financial
aid
for
current
and
former
college
athletes
with
medical
bills
and
other
expenses
from
sports
related
injuries,
as
well
as
illness.
From
coronavirus,
this
bill
will
likely
be
reintroduced
early
early
on
during
the
117th
congress
and,
if
it
becomes
law,
will
transform
the
economics
of
college
sports.
C
C
The
last
development
I'd
like
to
mention
concerns
the
united
states
supreme
court's
recent
decision
to
hear
two
cases
during
its
2021
term
in
nc2a
versus
alston
and
the
aac
versus
austin,
the
supreme
court
will
decide
whether
the
nc2a
eligibility
rules
for
student
athletes,
which
prohibit
pay-to-play
violates
anti-trust
laws,
while
the
nc2a
disallows
pay
to
play.
It
does
allow
schools
to
reimburse
student
athletes
for
their
reasonable
and
necessary
academic
and
athletic
expenses.
C
At
this
point,
I'd
like
to
walk
you
through
those
and
the
key
provisions
of
the
bill.
First
in
section
5,
the
bill
provides
that
a
public
or
private
post-secondary
institution
or
the
nc2a
may
not
prevent
a
student
college,
a
student
athlete
from
being
compensated
for
the
use
of
their
name
image
or
likeness
or
prevent
the
student
from
obtaining
professional
services.
C
It
also
provides
that
the
in
the
institution
or
the
nc2a
may
not
compensate
the
student
athlete
for
the
use
of
their
name
image
or
likeness.
The
section
also
prohibits
any
related
impact
on
the
student
athlete
scholarship.
C
It
also
prohibits
the
nc2a
from
disallowing
the
students,
participation
in
intercollegiate
sports
for
such
compensation
or
use
of
services
and
further
prohibits
the
organization
from
preventing
the
institution
itself
from
participating
in
nc2a.
For
that
same
reason,
additionally,
an
institution
may
adopt
reasonable
restrictions
to
ensure
student
athletes
entering
contracts
are
not
contrary
to
the
mission
of
the
institution.
C
The
second
significant
portion
of
the
bill
is
contained
in
section
six,
and
this
section
has
three
major
components.
First,
a
student
athlete
is
authorized
to
enter
into
a
contract
with
an
organization
that
provides
for
the
compensation
of
the
athlete
for
the
use
of
that
athlete's
name
image
or
likeness.
C
Such
an
organization
may
not
may
not
be
either
the
institution
they
attend
or
the
nc2a.
Second,
the
contract
itself
may
not
conflict
with
any
contract
between
the
institution
and
the
student
athlete
and
third,
any
such
contract
must
be
disclosed
to
the
institution
and
a
procedure
specified
when
there
is
an
alleged
conflict
between
the
contracts.
C
Section,
6.3
and
6.7
provide
that
a
student
athlete
may
be
required
by
an
institution
to
receive
education
or
training
in
contracts,
financial
literacy
or
similar
education.
In
addition,
prospective
student
athletes
will
be
required
to
disclose
any
previous
existing
contracts
before
signing
a
letter
of
intent
with
the
institution.
C
Finally,
section
8
of
the
bill
requires
the
interim
legislative
committee
on
education
to
appoint
a
committee
to
use
to
study
the
use
of
name,
image
and
likeness
of
a
student
athlete.
Membership
of
that
study
committee
includes
representatives
from
the
nevada
system
of
higher
education
student
athletes,
athletic
coaches
program
administrators,
amongst
others.
C
The
committee
is
charged
with
studying
existing
bylaws
of
state
collegiate
athletic
associations,
as
well
as
those
of
the
nc2a.
It
must
also
review
state
and
federal
laws
relating
to
compensating
student
athletes
and
reporters
findings
to
the
legislature.
The
legislative
committee
on
education
for
transmittal
to
the
2023
session
of
the
nevada
legislature.
C
In
closing
the
discussion
about
economic
exploitation
of
our
college
and
university
student
athletes
has
been
around
for
as
long
as
I
can
remember.
I
have
to
commend
california
for
taking
the
first
legislative
steps
that
have
sparked
this
national
debate.
It's
past
time
that
we
deal
with
this
matter
and
ab254
is
the
vehicle
nevada
needs
to
ensure
our
student
athletes
are
treated
fairly.
C
On
a
personal
note,
having
participated
in
division,
one
sports,
I
recognize
that
I
attended
unr
on
a
scholarship
and
a
lot
of
other
folks
attended
the
university
on
either
athletic
or
non-athletic
scholarships
or
didn't
get
a
scholarship
at
all,
but
that
was
in
1988
when
I
landed
in
nevada
and
five
surgeries.
Later
on.
On
my
left
knee
and
my
right
shoulder,
I
jokingly
note
that
I
can
still
run
if
a
dog
is
chasing
me,
but
that's
about
as
far
as
it's
going
to
go.
C
So
at
this
time,
with
the
chair's
permission,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
mr
ross
and
ms
armstrong
to
share
their
stories
about
how
they
have
been
involved
in
this
and
why
this
is
so
important
to
them.
A
D
Please,
thank
you,
speaker,
fyerson
good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
karina
armstrong
for
the
record.
First
and
foremost,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
allowing
sebastian
9
to
be
here
today
to
present
what
started
off
as
a
writing.
Competition
in
our
law
school
has
turned
into
this
and
we're
just
very
thankful
and
blessed
for
the
opportunity.
D
This
bill
was
important
to
me
because
I
am
a
former
collegiate
athlete
at
both
the
mountain
west
and
at
atlantic
coast
conference
school,
and
I
saw
firsthand
how
much
money
colleges
make
off
of
their
athletes.
But
personally
I
saw
how
much
my
teammates
and
other
athletes
struggled
financially
during
our
time
as
athletes.
D
I
think
when
people
see
or
learn
about
this
build
they
like
to
think
of
the
big
sports,
such
as
like
men's
basketball,
football.
Those
are
the
big
revenue
generating
college
sports.
D
I
personally
think
about
the
so-called
smaller
sports,
because
that's
what
I
was
a
part
of
I
was
on
the
track
and
field
team
and
the
ncaa
likes
to
call
these
sports
equivalency
sports,
which
means
student
athletes
on
these.
Sports
teams
can
get
anywhere
from
one
percent
to
a
hundred
percent
of
a
full-ride
scholarship,
but
they
still
are
required
to
do
everything
that
say
a
student-athlete
on
a
full-ride
scholarship
is
to
do
so.
These
sports
include
track
and
field
swim
and
dive
gymnastics
tennis,
all
of
the
above,
pretty
much
softball.
D
Currently
athletes
in
these
sports.
They
can't
even
get
paid
for
giving
a
sports
lesson
to
a
young
kid
for
just
by
a
parent,
and
I
think
that
many
of
these
athletes
they're
not
on
fluoride
scholarships.
D
E
My
brief
playing
stint
enlightened
me
about
business
principles
regarding
institutional
profit
at
the
collegiate
level.
Another
imperative
lesson
I
learned
came
from
my
teammates.
It
becomes
very
easy
to
characterize
your
teammates
as
family,
and
I
remember
seeing
my
brother
struggle
financially
as
well
as
exercise
financial
illiteracy,
ordering
a
big
mac
off
the
dollar
menu.
Instead
of
excuse
me
ordering
a
big
mac
instead
of
something
off
the
dollar
menu
was
not
only
viewed
at
or
viewed
as
as
a
delicacy,
but
perhaps
it
was
exercising
financial
literacy
as
an
example.
E
Now
in
candor,
there
are
very
few
examples
of
my
brothers
having
the
same
linear
financial
gain,
paralleling
the
financial
growth
of
our
old
institution.
A
number
of
them
are
in
the
same
dire
financial
situation
upon
which
they
entered
in
school.
Now,
I'm
fortunate
with
an
opportunity
in
furthering
my
education.
E
E
Unfortunately,
I
don't
know
if,
if
we
would
say
that
the
reward
came
with
that
risk
that
we
paid,
there's
no
doubt
in
my
mind
that
hosting
a
camp
or
promoting
a
local
business
through
social
media
and
receiving
pay
for
the
work
would
have
made
the
notion
of
financial
comfort
more
plausible
back.
Then
this
bill
benefits
the
quality
of
life
for
athletes,
contributing
to
nevada's
economic
development.
E
Adoption
of
this
bill
gives
athletes
the
opportunity
to
enter
into
the
marketplace,
enabling
one
to
find
her
or
his
own
value
for
some
athletes.
This
might
be
the
only
time
in
their
life
where
they
have
an
opportunity
to
make
money
off
their
athletic
ability,
so
if
they
want
to
go
out
and
work
if
they
want
to
go
and
earn
money
legally,
I
think
the
question
then
shifts
to.
Why
would
we
restrict
their
autonomy?
E
So,
in
conclusion
I
spoke
to
the
work
my
colleague
karina
and
I
put
in.
I
do
want
to
thank
her
for
for
dragging
me
along
in
this
process.
Perhaps
she'll
characterize
it
as
that.
I
do
want
to
thank
senator
hammond,
who
sits
on
this
committee.
He
was
a
judge
in
that
competition,
so
I
want
to
thank
him
for
providing
feedback
and
just
coaching
us
out
to
help
us
reach
our
full
potential.
E
It's
also
my
recollection
and
my
understanding
that
you
were
you
expressed
a
willingness
to
sponsor
this,
and
this
is
something
that
we
appreciate,
and
we
certainly
hope
that
you
still
have
that
same
sentiment,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
speaker
fryerson
for
advocating
on
behalf
of
a
demographic
of
nevadans
that
are
facing
inequity.
I
do
want
to
thank
the
lcb
staff
for
their
herculean
effort
and
I
want
to
thank
the
members
of
the
committee
for
their
time.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
speaker.
Does
that
conclude
the
presentation?
Okay?
So
let's
go
to
questions
and
you
can
you
can
stay
there
if
you
want
and
then.
A
Yes,
senator
lange.
F
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I
I
may
have
missed
this,
but
I
just
so
we
all
know
the
nc2a
is
the
the
ruling
body
of
sports,
and
so,
if
we
make
this
law
in
nevada,
does
our
law
supersede
what
they
have
or
is
our
law
fit
into
where
they're
headed.
C
Thank
you
again
for
the
record
jason
foreign
through
you,
mr
chair,
thank
you
senator
our
our
law
would
would
be
state
law
and
essentially,
and-
and
I
went
through
the
history
of
how
we
got
here-
to
really
lay
it
out,
but
the
the
spirit
of
this
bill
is
really
saying
it's
coming.
It's
coming
from
the
nc2a
it's
coming
from
congress,
and
we
need
to
get
out
of
the
way
and
be
ready
when
it
happens.
That's
essentially
what
the
bill
does.
C
F
C
Again,
jason
friesen
for
the
records
senator.
What
what
what's
great
about
the
bill
is
that
the
nc2a
has
already
indicated
support,
and
so
they
have
already
indicated
they
support
the
notion
of
these
college
athletes
being
paid
for
use
of
their
likeness,
and
I
think
that
we're
just
in
a
transition
period
where
what
we
want
to
do
is
prohibit
institutions
of
higher
education
from
having
rules
that
would
conflict
with
the
direction
that
the
country
is
going.
F
My
question
is
this:
we
have
lots
of
times
when
athletes
go
to
schools,
go
to
elementary
schools,
middle
schools,
high
schools
and
do
things
with
kids,
which
I
love,
because
the
kids
look
up
to
them.
It's
a
great
way
to
not
only
endorse
education,
but
you
know
activity
are
those
will
those
be
certain
times
when
they
need
to
be
paid
or
will
those
still
be
gratis
type
activities.
C
Well-
and
I
I
I
have
mr
ross
here
to
chime
in
as
well-
nothing
in
this
bill
requires
that
a
student
athlete
be
paid
or
that
they
mandate
that
that
that
you
know
like
a
school,
would
mandate
that
that
they
be
paid.
It
just
allows
for
them
to
be
paid
if
there's
a
special
event
or
a
circumstance
where,
where
you
know
where
the
incentive
is
for
them
to
be
paid
and
there's
a
motivation
on
the
part
of
the
person,
that's
organizing
the
event
to
have
that
presence
for
that
purpose.
C
E
Sebastian
ross
for
the
record
in
the
interest
of
brevity,
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
ditto
that
what
I
will
add
on
to
that
is
you
know.
Perhaps
we
can
give
the
players
the
benefit
of
the
doubt
and
we
can
recognize
their
humanity
and
give
them
benefit
of
doubt
and
thinking
that
they'll
still
want
to
do
this
out
of
the
kindness
of
their
heart
for
free.
C
Well,
thank
you
again
for
the
record
jason
freyerson,
and
this
ab254
is
specifically
designed
to
protect
the
athlete,
not
the
institution,
so
it
is
really
not
providing
the
institution
with
an
opportunity
other
than
again
getting
out
of
the
way
of
the
the
trend
that's
happening
across
the
country.
F
Thank
you,
and
just
as
a
follow-up,
mr
chair,
just
a
a
nod
to
ms
armstrong,
just
hoping
that
the
women
athletes
get
the
same,
respect
and
honor
and
pay
that
our
male
counterparts
do.
So.
Thank
you
for
being
here
today.
A
Okay,
I've
got
to
senator
hammond
and
then
we're
going
to
go.
Senator
hardy.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Mr
armstrong,
thanks.
I
I'm
gonna
try
and
move
this
around,
so
I
can
talk
to
you,
ms
armstrong,
mr
ross,
thanks
for
coming
in
and
speaker,
yes,
I
actually
did
volunteered
to
bring
the
bill.
I
didn't
by
the
time
you
guys
got
back
to
me.
I
had
no
bill
jackets
left.
I
think
you
are
actually
in
better
hands
trying
to
get
this
thing
through
than
you
would
be
with
me.
So
you
landed
well,
I'm
still
in
favor
of
the
bill.
G
I,
like
the
material,
I
mean
I'm
gonna
date
myself,
but
this
goes
all
the
way.
Back
to
the
first
time
I
ever
watched
a
movie
called
one
on
one
with
robbie
benson.
There
were
problems
back
then
that
that
the
movie
highlighted
with
collegiate
athletes
and
athletics
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
compensating
these
folks.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
will
make
the
argument
that
you
all
get
a
a
scholarship
that
what
you
get
out
of
this
is
a
scholarship.
G
Meanwhile,
the
institution
and
the
ncaa
and
several
people
are
making
a
lot
more
money.
On
your
likeness
on
your
athletic
prowess,
I
mean
just
marketing
and
getting
people
to
get
into
stadiums
into
the
arenas
getting
into
the
athletic
fields.
Watching
you
on
the
track,
I
mean
that's
that's
where
the
money
is
is
really
being
made.
So
I
I
like
that.
I
do
like
the
direction-
and
I
like
that-
we're
pushing
this-
that
this
is
actually
pushing
the
ncaa
to
look
at.
G
How
do
we?
How
are
we,
how
can
we
be
fair
to
student
athletes
and
and
many
of
them,
and
especially
division
three,
where
you're
not
going
to
get
that
same
sort
of
medical
attention
that
you
would
be
in
a
division
one
school?
I
know
that
in
junior
college,
for
example,
that
sometimes
those
poor
athletes
are
used
up
and
you
know
they're
used
up
and
then
discarded
when
they
can't
play
anymore.
G
So
I'm
in
favor
of
this,
the
one
thing
that
I
was
looking
at
is
it
it
really
concentrates
on
athletes
and
the
reality
is
we're
we're
seeing
students
in
different
fields
ex
you
know
really
accelerating
and
get
into
the
in
the
public.
I
mean
you've
got
esports
as
well
that
are
really
coming
out
on
campuses.
G
I'm
thinking
that
at
some
point
I
guess
the
only
question
I
have
I
mean
first
of
all,
accolades
is
all
I'm
going
to
level
upon
the
two
of
you
guys
for
all
the
work
you
guys
did,
but
I
think
that
at
some
point
we
have
to
start
looking
at.
How
do
you?
How
do
you
look
at
the
other
students,
because
I,
like
the
marketing
component,
you've
got
to
take
a
class
and
you've
got
to
learn
how
to
you
know,
contract
to
get
the
the
best
deal
out
of
a
situation.
G
C
Sure,
again,
jason
fryerson
for
the
record.
Thank
you.
Senator
hammond,
and
I
know
your
experience
with
athletes
and
coaching
and
seeing
those
kids
come
up
and
and
going
through
the
process,
you're,
probably
more
familiar
with
it
than
a
lot.
I
I
think
that
the
distinction
is
the
other
students
that
you're
talking
about
are
not
contractually
limited
in
doing
so,
whereas
a
student
athlete
and
one
on
scholarship
or
on
a
team
are
currently
expressly
prohibited
from
being
able
to
do
that.
C
So
part
of
this
bill
refers
the
matter
to
the
interim
to
look
look
at
it
further.
I
agree
with
you,
especially
in
in
in
this
digital
age,
where,
if
there's,
for
example,
a
an
entrepreneurial
student
who
is
famous
on
tick-tock
and
is
unable
to
to
reap
the
benefits
of
that.
If
the
university
policy
prohibits,
it
would
certainly
be
open
and
hope
that
they
would
explore
that
possibility
during
the
next
interim.
But
I
I
think,
and
and
ms
armstrong
was
very
articulate
and
given
examples.
Those
examples
are
real.
C
C
When
there's
a
you
know
an
interest
in
it.
So
I
I
say
all
of
that
to
stress
that
these
are
this
is
an
effort
to
address
a
today
problem
and
I
think
we
should
absolutely
be
open
to
supporting
students
across
the
board
to
the
extent
that
they
would
be
otherwise
limited
from
doing
so.
But
I
think
the
point
of
this
one
was
because
they
are
contractually
limited
currently
based
on
their
scholarship
and
their
participation
on
the
team,
from
being
able
to
do
so.
C
But
if
there
was
any
other
student
that
was
limited
in
a
similar
similar
fashion,
I
would
certainly
expect
that
the
interim
study
would
take
a
look
at
that.
G
Thank
you,
and
I
agreed,
and
I
appreciate
that
that
the
answer,
because
I
think
you're
right,
that
this
study
has
to
look
at,
are
there
other
ones
out
there
and
and
other
things
that
we
need
to?
We
might
be
able
to
find
out
in
doing
a
study
and
to
your
point,
not
only
do
you
not
have
the
funds,
you
know
you,
some
athletes,
just
don't
have
the
money
coming
from
their
families
or
whatnot,
but
you
are
also
you
have
certain
times
of
the
day.
G
You
have
to
be
at
practice
and
that's
you
know
for
some
it's
several
hours
out
of
a
day
and
you
don't
have
the
flexibility
to
get
the
job.
The
only
other
thing
that
I
I
did
notice
is
that
the
the
makeup
of
the
committee
I'm
seeing
this
more
and
more
often
than
when
you
look
at
a
council
or
committee
you
put
together
that
we're
putting
one
person
that's
selected
by
the
majority
leader,
one
person
selected
by
the
the
speaker.
I
mean
I.
G
C
I
thank
you
again
and
for
the
record
jason
fryerson.
I
I
don't
disagree.
I
think,
there's
a
certain
level
of
accountability
with
the
the
ability
to
appoint.
I
I
can
say
that
comfortably.
If
you
senator
hammer
were
still
in
the
assembly,
you'd
probably
be
at
the
top
of
my
list
of
of
people
with
experience
and
knowledge
about
this.
That
would
be
appropriate
to
be
appointed
to
that
committee
and
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
precludes
either
that
scenario
or
collaboration
between
the
leaders
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
worthwhile
appointment.
A
B
B
C
Well
and
I'm
sorry
again,
jason
freyjan
for
the
record,
I
I
think
there
are
three
parts
I
I
can
certainly
address
the
the
first
question
about
athletes
going
to
other
states,
you're,
absolutely
right
and
that's
why
congress
is
concerned,
because
they
believe
that
there
should
be
a
consistent
policy
across
the
whole
country,
and
I
believe
that
they're
going
to
look
at
taking
that
up
in
their
next
congressional
session.
C
I
think
the
nc2a
is
also
looking
at
having
a
single
rule
throughout
the
country,
so
we
can't
control
what
other
states
do,
but
we
can
certainly
be
a
leader
and
be
an
example
and-
and
in
my
intro
we
talked
about
there
being
33
states
that
are
now
looking
at
this.
So
I
think,
as
as
this
movement
continues
to
go
forward,
you're
going
to
see
fewer
and
fewer
states
that
are
not
consistent
with
what
is
going
to
ultimately
be
the
policy
that
congress
and
or
the
nc2a
puts
on
them.
Inevitably,
anyway,.
B
Your
alumnus
university
just
came
out
in
the
paper
that
they
don't
like
transfer
of
students,
but
they
want
to
get
them.
So
if
we
do
this,
maybe
it'll
keep
our
good
ones
here
and
they
can't
transfer
somewhere
else
to
those
other
17
states
the
olympics.
I
had
the
question
about,
but
I
I
heard
the
plea
for
my
my
athletes
to
do
something
with
their
prowess
in
the
coaching
ability
does.
That
is
that
addressed
in
here.
C
I
thank
you
again
for
the
record
jason
fryerson.
I
I
I
don't
want
to
speak
to
the
olympics
because
that's
an
entire
different
different
governing
body,
but
to
the
extent
that
you
are
referencing
coaching
and
those
are
the
activities
that
are
expressly
intended
to
be
covered
in
allowing
an
athlete
to
be
able
to
be
compensated
because
right
now,
it's
difficult
for
an
athlete
to
be
compensated
at
all,
not
just
for
use
of
their
name
or
likeness,
but
compensated
at
all.
C
They're
frequently
prohibited
from
working
during
the
school
year
anyway,
and
so
this
is
intended
to
allow
them
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
notoriety
that
they
have
developed
in
their
community
and
if
there's
value
there
be
compensated
for
it,
whether
it's
use
of
their
likeness,
whether
it's
autographs
or
coaching,
for
you
know,
olympics
or
or
any
other
off-season.
Sport.
B
C
Well,
thank
you
again,
jason
frysen
for
the
record.
I
think
that
the
crux
of
the
issue
is
that
the
language
in
the
contracts
that
students
sign
when
they
sign
on
to
participate,
prohibit
them
from
being
able
to
make
money,
and
so
it's
not
so
much
focus
on
what
the
money
is
for,
specifically
as
much
as
currently
they're
not
allowed
to
make
money
at
all.
F
Hi,
speaker
ryerson,
I
have
one
more
question,
so
we
have
high
school
athletes
that
are
really
really
great
and
we
have
top
10
college
or
top
10
high
school
basketball
players
top
10
football
players,
and
the
list
goes
on
and
on
once-
and
this
may
be
something
that
the
committee
would
address.
F
C
C
But
I
I
think
when
you
were
contractually
behind,
when
you
signed
a
contract,
then
this
would
kick
in
in
theory,
and
you
would
be
able
to
even
before
you
leave
your
hometown
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
of
you
know
contractual
freedom
to
to
be
prepared
as
soon
as
you
are
under
that
contract
and
and
the
contracts
of
the
universities.
Again,
that's
the
crux
of
it:
that's
where
the
limitations
currently
exist,
that
this
bill
would
remove.
F
So
I
think
when
they,
when
kids
sign,
to
go
to
a
college,
that's
going
to
be
a
really
great
time.
I
mean
it's
going
to
change
everything
for
them.
So
thank
you.
A
Okay,
it's
a
great
bill,
long
time
coming.
So
let's
see
what
we
have
no
other
questions
at
this
point,
so
let's
go
to
the
those
that
might
want
to
speak
in
support
or
or
otherwise
so
we
will
open
the
hearing
or
I'm
sorry,
we'll
open
the
testimony
in
support
of
senate
bill
254.
A
Anyone
here
in
the
room
wishing
to
speak
in
support
not
seeing
any
bps
if
we
could
queue
up
anybody.
That's
that's
here
to
speak
on
support
on
online.
H
H
H
H
I
I
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
just
want
to
thank
the
sponsors
of
bill,
speaker,
fryerson
and
former
unr
football
star
for
bringing
this
bill
forward,
and
also
mr
ross
and
ms
armstrong
from
unlv,
and
I
actually
worked
with
them
on
the
policy
and
legislative
society
when
they
presented
this.
I
served
as
a
judge,
and
so
was
honored
to
hear
them
present
this
initially
there
and
to
see
where
this
has
gone
is
really
impressive.
I
We're
currently
monitoring
bills
at
the
federal
level
and
working
with
the
nc2a
on
on
all
the
action
happening
on
this
and
obviously
watching
closely
what's
happening
at
the
federal
level.
But
I
want
to
thank
the
speaker
for
working
with
us
on
this
bill
and
look
forward
to
working
with
him
during
the
interim
with
this
interim
committee
to
do
what's
best
for
our
student
athletes
in
our
state
and
we
are
in
full
support
of
ab254
and
thank
you
again.
H
J
Good
afternoon,
this
is
sabra
newbie
f-a-b-r-a-n-e-w,
representing
the
university
of
nevada,
las
vegas
in
strong
support
of
ab254,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
speaker
of
the
assembly
for
bringing
forward
this
legislation
and
also
to
our
fantastic
unlv
students
for
presenting
it
so
well.
We
have
been
able
to
work
with
mr
speaker
on
a
number
of
amendments
in
the
other
house
and
are
fully
supportive
of
this
bill.
J
I
also
want
to
just
state
that
unlv
is,
of
course
a
student-centered
and
focused
institution,
and
so
we
view
this
legislation
and
legislation
at
the
federal
level
as
being
supportive
of
our
student
athletes
and
for
those
reasons
and
more,
we
are
supportive
of
this
piece
of
legislation.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So,
let's
go
then
to
testimony
anyone
wishing
to
give
testimony
in
opposition
anyone
here
in
the
room
not
seeing
any
if
we
could
queue
up
the
first
person
online.
A
C
Again,
jason
frasher
for
the
record
ordinarily,
I
would
bypass
any
closing
remarks,
especially
with
such
short
testimony,
but
I
really
want
to
thank
mr
ross
and
mrs
armstrong
for
all
their
hard
work
over
the
years
and
you
know
for
them
to
be
able
to
see
their
hard
work
on
the
fruition
in
a
bill
and
have
them
come
up
here
to
testify
in
support
of
it
in
person.
I
think,
speaks
volumes
to
to
their
passion
about
this
issue
and
the
work
that
they've
got
done
to
get
us
here.
C
G
A
A
A
Assembly
built
88.
we're
just
going
back
up
to
the
top
now
we're
just
going
to
do
those
in
order.
So
welcome
to
our
committee
great
great
to
have
you
here
and
look
forward
to
hearing
your
your
bill.
K
K
K
K
One
of
the
legacies
of
this
that
periodically
needs
to
be
looked
at
is
the
language
and
symbolism
that
we
use.
As
we
look
back
and
realize
that
the
things
that
were
once
acceptable
and
commonplace
are
not
any
longer
assembly
bill,
88
looks
at
this
in
two
areas:
our
school
identities
and
our
place
names.
K
Additionally,
after
consultation
with
native
leaders
in
the
state,
I've
submitted
a
proposed
amendment
that
should
be
available
online.
That
would
address
a
third
area,
so-called
sundowner
sirens,
I'll,
try
and
keep
my
remarks
very
brief,
and
just
note.
I
think
this
is
an
issue
that
whose
time
has
come.
K
We
recently
renamed
a
peak
in
great
basin
national
park
that
was
named
for
jefferson
davis,
the
president
of
the
confederacy
to
dosodoyabi
the
original
shoshone
name
for
the
mountain
and
research
that
was
conducted
in
2015
by
a
group
called
vocative
cross-referenced
every
term
in
a
database
of
racial
slurs
against
the
2.2
million
official
names
tracked
by
the
usgs
and
found
more
than
1400
places
containing
racial
slurs
in
their
names,
including
60.
Here
in
the
state
of
nevada.
K
With
that
you
know,
I
just
say
I
actually
at
that
point,
I'm
going
to
pause
and
turn
it
over
to
ms
melendez
to
share
some
of
her
perspective
and
then
I'll
give
a
brief,
closing
remarks
before
we
open
it
up
to
questions.
L
Hello
for
the
record,
my
name
is
teresa
melendez
t-e-r-e-s-a,
melendez
m-e-l-e-n-d-e-z,
and
I
am
a
citizen
of
the
pulkagan
band
of
potawatomi
indians
from
southwest
michigan
and
a
former
resident
of
the
reno
sparks
indian
colony
and
a
current
resident
of
las
vegas
nevada.
Thank
you
for
having
me
today
and
thank
you
to
assemblyman
watts
for
bringing
forward
this
important
bill.
L
I
really
I
want
to
highlight
something
that
assemblyman
watts
said
he
mentioned
that
you
know
we
have
a
assorted
history
with
indigenous
people
in
this
continent
and
it's
it's
uplifting
to
see
that
states
like
nevada,
are
recognizing
that
history
and
taking
steps
to
rectify
some
of
the
historic
wrongs,
and
this
bill
is
a
great
step
forward
in
acknowledging
the
racist
practices
in
history
here
in
nevada
and
then
finding
solutions
and
moving
things
forward.
So
thank
you
to
the
the
committee
for
hearing
this
bill
and
for
your
time.
L
So
I
just
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
on
each
one
of
the
points
that
howard
mentioned.
First,
you
know
on
the
first,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
the
indian
mascot
bill,
so
there
is
a
national
trend
recognizing
that
indian
mascots
are
a
racist,
outdated
practice.
There's
we
now
even
have
some
excellent
research
on
the
topic.
I
want
to
share
some
of
that
with
you,
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
There's
an
organization
called
illuminative.
L
There's
a
lot
of
great
information
on
this
website.
I
encourage
you
guys
to
check
it
out.
The
campaign
is
called
change.
The
name
and
the
organization
is
illuminative,
so
in
indigenous
communities,
we're
used
to
being
told
that
our
perceptions
are
not
reality
and
that
our
histories
are
often
whitewashed
or
or
we're
just
seeing,
not
even
recognized
at
all,
and
so
it's
it's.
It's
we're
grateful
that
this
bill
is
being
proposed.
L
I
hope
that
it's
taken
seriously
the
impact
of
the
bill
when
this
bill
was
heard
in
front
of
the
education,
the
command
education
with
the
assembly,
there
were
several
really
passionate
callers,
who
called
in
and
gave
their
personal
testimony
about.
L
You
know
what
it
meant
to
them
as
native
athletes
and
collegiate
athletes
competing
against
schools
with
indian
mascots
or
playing
with
for
school,
the
indian
mascot,
and
how
as
young
people
as
growing-
and
you
know,
developing
young
students
how
they
were
subject
to
racial
slurs
and
actions,
and-
and
I
don't
even
remember
in
my
experience
as
a
young
person
in
michigan
like
homecoming
week,
you
know
driving
through
the
city
of
tecumseh
michigan,
where
they
had.
You
know.
L
Tecumseh
is
a
a
notable
indigenous
leader
from
the
midwest
and
like
all
through,
like
downtown.
There
would
be
signs
and
paintings
and
all
the
store
windows
and
be
like
scalp,
the
indians
massacre,
the
indians,
kill
the
indians,
and
so
people
who
don't
haven't
lived
that
history
were
those
types
of
those
types
of
thoughts.
Those
types
of
words
are
directed
towards
them
in
our
reality
of
their
ancestors
history.
Those
are
really
harmful
and
those
are
really
hurtful
things.
L
And,
and
so
the
argument
is
that
schools
are
honoring
indigenous
people
when
they
use
indian
mascots,
where
we
know
the
majority
of
indigenous
people,
united
states
say
that
they
don't
feel
like
they're
being
honored,
and
the
actions
of
fans
are
often
discriminatory
and
seen
as
racist.
L
L
This
conversation
is
being
recognized
and
as
a
legitimate,
conversational
legitimate
need
to
remedying
race
relations
in
the
united
states
and
acknowledging
indigenous
people,
and
so
I'm
really
grateful
for
this
bill
and
I
hope
that
to
see
it
pass.
I
also
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
place
names.
L
Assemblyman
walmart's
talked
about
the
renaming
of
a
place
name
here
in
nevada,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
the
washoe
shoshone
and
people
who
their
whose
creation
story
puts
them
in
this
place.
They
believe
they've
always
lived
in
this
place.
They
have
always
been
from
this
place,
they've
already
named
all
the
lakes
and
the
rivers
and
the
mountains
and
the
valleys
of
the
state.
L
Each
one
of
those
traditional
places
has
been
renamed
by
the
settlers
who
have
stolen
their
ancestral
homeland,
so
the
practice
of
now
renaming
those
places
and
maybe
converting
them
back
to
their
traditional
names,
which
be
which
would
be
a
beautiful
practice
and
gesture.
I
hope
to
see
that
move
forward,
but
at
the
least
if
we
can
rename
those
place
names
to
something,
that's
not
racist.
That
would
be
a
great
move
forward
also
and
then.
Thirdly,
the
sundown
of
sirens:
there
are
several
sun
sun
down
sirens
in
the
state
of
nevada.
L
One
specifically
I'll
draw
your
attention
to
is
the
minden
siren
in
douglas
county.
The
tribe
there
on
those
traditional
homelands
are
the
washoe
washer
tribe
of
nevada
and
california.
The
tribal
chairman
of
that
community
has
sent
a
letter
to
the
douglas
county
and
the
town
of
minden
asking
them
to
stop
ringing
the
siren
and
they've.
Their
response
was
that
the
siren
no
longer
signals
that
communities
of
color
need
to
return
to
their
home
before
the
sun
goes
down,
but
now
it's
honoring
first
responders.
L
So
when,
when
messages
like
that
are
expressed,
the
communities
who've
been
oppressed
by
those
practices
know
that
their
concerns
are
not
being
taken
seriously
and
are
dismissed.
So
everybody
who
is,
who
comes
from
the
communities
have
been
impressed
by
sundown
sirens
knows
what
those
sirens
mean,
what
they
have
historically
meant,
and-
and
it's
hurtful
and
it's
still
hurtful
it's
like
having
ptsd
look
twice
a
day.
You
hear
this
fundam,
the
siren
that
reminds
you
of
the
oppression
that
your
ancestors
experienced
and
the
thing
about
nevada
is
a
lot
of
the
practices.
L
Here
are
very
recent.
A
lot
of
times.
We
talk
about
discriminatory
practices.
We
think
about.
You
know
our
great
grandparents
and
great
great
parents
generations,
but
the
indian
boarding
schools
weren't
shut
down
until
1980
here
in
the
state
of
nevada
when
the
last
open
boarding
schools
in
the
country.
So
I
know
we
have
a.
L
I
hope
we
have
a
few
callers
who
are
going
to
join
us
and
share
some
more
personal
stories
about
what
the
sundown
siren
has
meant
to
them
and
in
their
life
living
in
minden
about
what
it
meant
for
them
playing
on
teams
that
that
continue
to
use
indian
mascots.
So
you
can
hear
their
stories
specifically,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you,
howard
watts,
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
I'd
like
to
take
any
questions.
Any
of
the
committee
members
may
have.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
I'll
just
give
a
brief
comment
and
then,
if
you'd
like
from
there,
I
can
walk
you
through
the
bill.
I
know
it
is
pretty
short,
so
I
can
also
just
go
straight
into
questions,
so
I
I
just
like
to
close
by
saying
that
some
some
people
have
said
in
addressing
these
issues
that
we're
they're
concerned
that
we're
a
racing
history,
and
I
I
disagree
with
that
characterization.
K
K
So
in
fact,
this
bill
is
making
history
and
it's
promoting,
I
think,
necessary
conversations
for
us
to
have
you
know
at
our
school
governance
bodies
at
our
state
board
on
geographic
names
as
we
address
these
issues,
and
so
it's
it's,
you
know
looking
to
make
changes,
but
in
doing
so
I
think
it
also
helps
bring
history
forward
and
to
educate
our
entire
community
about
some
of
the
the
these
issues
and
their
roots.
K
Just
a
couple
of
months
ago
decided
to
change
the
valley
name
after
talking
with
indigenous
community
members
and
leaders,
and
that's
looking
to
continue
that
work,
because
that
term
is
also
used
repeatedly
in
place.
Names
in
nevada's
landscape
is
something
that
we
would
be
looking
to
address
moving
forward
with
this
bill.
So
with
that,
mr
chair,
if
you'd
like,
I
can
describe
the
sections
of
the
bill
or
we
can
immediately
go
into
questions
if.
A
You
would
just
real
quickly
describe
the
bill
and
then
we'll
go
into
questions.
K
K
Should
a
school
choose
to
use
an
identifier
associated
with
a
federally
recognized
indian
tribe,
the
board
must
obtain
permission
for
the
use
of
this
identifier
from
that
tribe
and
as
you'll
hear
in
in
some
of
the
testimony.
This
is.
This
is
a
really
difficult
topic,
but
we
do
know
that
there
are
in
some
cases,
maybe
schools
located
on
tribal
land
that
primarily
serve
indigenous
students
or
in
some
cases
there
are
schools,
including
those
located
here
that
have
received
permission
from
a
local
tribal
government
for
the
use
of
that
imagery.
K
That
doesn't
mean
that
every
indigenous
person
agrees
with
that,
but
we
are
trying
to
create
a
process
that
engages
tribal
governments
and
creates
a
process
for
them
to
be
involved
and
ultimately
provide
approval
if
they
do
not
see
it
as
derogatory
or
discriminatory
section.
Three
of
the
bill
establishes
a
policy
mandate
for
the
nevada
state
board
on
geographic
names,
to
recommend
new
names
for
landmarks
that
contain
racially
derogatory
language.
K
So
that's
a
volunteer
driven
body
that
that
would
review
any
suggestions
that
are
made
for
name
changes
and
then
submit
those
recommendations
to
the
us
board
on
geographic
names
for
final
action.
K
Those
are
those
are
the
two
provisions
of
the
bill
as
written
and
then
again
we
do
have
a
an
amendment
on
nellis
addressing
the
sundowner
sirens,
which
basically
would
address
any
use
of
a
siren.
That's
historical
use
was
racially
discriminatory
in
nature
that
it
cannot
be
sounded
in
the
future
and
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
that
members
of
the
committee
may
have.
A
Just
a
quick
question
on
on
the
the
amendment
is
that
that's
something
that's
just
coming
to
us
here
for
first,
so
it
didn't
get
hurt
on
the
assembly
side.
Is
that
correct.
K
Thank
you
for
the
question
share
dennis
howard
watch.
The
record
that
is
correct.
We
ran
out
of
time,
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
legally
germane
to
the
bill
and
also
was
continuing
to
have
conversations
with
native
leaders
who
believe
that
this
was
an
important
component
to
be
added
in
looking
at
these
topics
and
so
we're
just
bringing
it
forward
today.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
a
lot
of
merit
to
what
you're
saying
and
obviously
I
don't
know
enough
to
give
you
a
list
of
derogatory
names,
for
instance,
and
so
you
probably
have
compiled
or
somebody's
compiled
those
names
that
some
of
us
have
obviously
used
innocently,
but
that
doesn't
excuse
the
fact
that
someone
else
perceives
it
differently.
So
I
I
I
guess
I
would
say
you
know.
If
there's
a
list
of
things
we
probably
ought
to
know
them,
and
if
you
have
those
in
your
coat
I'd
appreciate
it.
B
A
B
K
Some
of
those
I'd
be
glad
to
thank
you
for
the
question
through
you
cheer,
dennis
to
senator
hardy
howard
watts
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
questions,
I'll
try
and
catch
some
of
those.
So
first
a
list
of
racially
derogatory
terms
or
slurs.
I
can
send-
is
follow-up,
a
a
comprehensive
database
that
has
been
compiled
by
some
independent
researchers
of
racial
slurs.
K
K
Instead,
it
tasks,
particularly
with
schools,
the
governing
bodies,
school
boards
or
the
governing
bodies
of
charter
schools
to
essentially
put
a
process
in
place,
and
once
that
process
is
in
place,
it
would
clearly
lay
out
how,
if
somebody
feels
that
the
mascot
or
or
term
or
song
etc,
is
offensive,
then
they
would
be
able
to
bring
essentially
a
complaint
forward
and
say
this
is
the
problem
this
is.
This
is
why
I
feel
this
is
problematic
and
then
the
governing
body
would
go
through
an
open
process
to
evaluate
that
and
make
a
decision.
K
K
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
process
in
place
where
these
types
of
issues
can
be
brought
forward
and
discussed
deliberated
and
decided
in
a
in
an
open
way,
because
sometimes
these
things
have
been
brought
up
before
and
school
districts
have
struggled
with
how
to
make
those
decisions
and
then
even
once
they
make
them,
then
people
don't
necessarily
feel
that
the
process
was
fair
or
inclusive.
So
that's
really
what
this
is
looking
to
remedy.
K
Let's
see,
I
believe
you
discussed
sirens
and-
and
I
agree-
and
the
language
in
this
is
tailored
quite
narrowly-
to
address
sirens
that
were
were
really
created
for
that.
The
only
purpose
they
had
originally
was
racially
discriminatory
to
sound
at
base
at
sundown
and
at
sunrise
to
indicate
when
people
could
or
could
not
be
within
a
specific
community,
separate
from
any
other
sort
of
siren.
K
That
has
a
utility
whether
for
emergencies
or
or
any
other
purpose,
and
you
know,
I
think,
that's
important
and
as
was
noted,
even
if
the
claim
is
that
it's
being
the
the
purpose
of
it
being
rung
now
is
changed
if
it
still
rings.
At
the
same
time,
I
have
trouble
thinking
of
something
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
if
there
is
something
that
had
a
deeply
discriminatory
history
and
then
somebody
was
going
to
do
it
the
exact
same
way
but
said
it
was
for
a
different
reason.
K
K
There's
another
bill
this
session
to
actually
add
a
representative,
I
believe,
of
the
nevada,
indian
commission
to
that
body,
and
so
they're
already
set
up
and
the
process
that
we
have
is
when
naming
or
suggesting
a
renaming.
It
should
should
go
through
that
that
state
body
and
then
it
goes
to
the
u.s
board
on
geographic
names.
Technically,
all
we
can
do
is
make
a
recommendation.
K
The
us
board
must
ultimately
make
the
change,
so
it
wouldn't
go
through
the
legislative
commission
or
even
through
the
legislature.
It
would
go
through
this
entity
and
I
believe
most,
if
not
all
other
states
go
through
a
similar
process
for
proposing
new
names
or
name
changes
for
geographic
features.
K
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Senator
hardy
howard
watts
for
the
record,
so
one
of
the
things
again
to
address
the
concept
that
we
are
erasing
things
and
the
history
of
them
is
so
the
the
component
of
that
in
section
three
is
that
we
would
have
the
board,
which
already
exists,
submit
a
report
on
an
ongoing
basis
to
the
legislature
about
any
deliberations
and
decisions
they
made
specifically
in
this
area.
So
it's
just
to
provide
information
back
to
us
on
what's
happening
after
the
bill,
it
becomes
law.
K
Thank
you,
senator
hardy
howard
watts
for
the
record.
The
original
build
did
actually
include
language
to
incorporate
people
with
a
racially
discriminatory
history,
understanding
that
that
opens
a
lot
of
doors
to
a
lot
of
conversations
and
a
lot
of
debate.
I
think
that
the
debate
is
needed
at
at
certain
points,
but
I
wanted
to
start
by
getting
a
policy
in
place
that
addresses
truly
the
most
egregious
discriminatory
examples.
I
think
what
you're
seeing
is
there's
a
lot
of
things
named
after
people
who
have
complicated
histories.
K
There
are
likely
positives
and
negatives
to
many
people
and,
of
course,
particularly
in
clark
county.
We
have
a
lot
of
schools
named
after
a
lot
of
people
and
and
upon
closer
review.
I'm
sure
that
you
can
find
some
some
questionable
or
problematic
aspects
to
their
their
history,
so
we
took
that
section
out
of
the
bill,
so
this
is
really
just
focusing
on
on
language
or
symbols
that
are
themselves
derogatory
or
discriminatory,
not
addressing
things
that
are
named
after
people.
G
I'm
actually
really
glad
that
this
policy
came
forward.
I
was
proud
of
my
alma
mater
unlv
when
they
decided
to
make
the
change,
and
my
main
question
for
you.
Assemblyman
is
what
happens
if
a
school
refuses
to
change
their
mascot
even
after
it
was
already
determined
that
it
was
quite
offensive.
Is
there
provisions
that
can
address
that.
K
Or
how
to
move
forward?
Thank
you
for
the
question
through
you,
mr
chair,
to
senator
donate
howard
watts
for
the
record
again
this
this
bill.
Really,
it
creates
the
the
mandate
within
this
bill
is
to
create
a
process
where
the
discussion
and
decision
can
happen,
and
we're
also
essentially
setting
a
public
policy
position
from
the
state
that
these
things
should
be
addressed.
K
But
I
don't
think
it
makes
sense
for
the
legislature
to
try
and
decide
every
individual
case
through
statute,
so
ultimately
we're
asking
that
those
governing
bodies
of
the
schools
create
those
processes,
so
they
can
have
the
discussion
and
make
a
decision
in
an
open
and
transparent
way.
After
that
decision
is
made,
you
know,
I
I
think
any
existing.
K
You
know
policies
that
might
be
in
place
to
challenge
that
would
apply
we're
not
creating
anything
new
here.
A
decision
could
already
always
be
revisited
at
some
point
in
the
future
as
well.
So
I
know
that's
not
an
extremely
specific
answer,
but
we
just
didn't
want
to.
We
didn't
want
to
be
overly
prescriptive
in
terms
of
just
describing
exactly
what
the
steps
of
the
process
should
look
like
exactly
what
any
appeal
would
look
like,
and
I
would
assume
that
it
would
follow
existing
procedures
for
any
other
decisions,
for
example,
that
a
school
board
may
make.
A
M
Hello,
my
name
is:
will
adler,
I'm
here
representing
the
pyramid?
Lake
paiute
tribe
pyramid
lake
would
like
to
thank
some
of
them
in
watts
for
bring
forward
ab-88
and
again
thank
the
concept
of
ab-88
and
what
it
wishes
to
do.
M
Ab-88
will
look
to
stimulate
a
conversation
about
these
landmarks
and
these
names
and
these
things
to
try
and
educate
folks
as
well
as
you
know,
meet
them
halfway,
as
I
see
it
on
some
of
these
key
issues
on
inclusion
and
you
know
bringing
some
of
those
racial
conversations
forward
on
some
very
old
names
and
some
different
areas
across
the
state.
So
again,
we
want
to
thank
simon
watts
for
bringing
forward
ab88
and
the
intent
of
what
it
wishes
to
do.
Thank
you.
M
Mr
chair,
chris
daley
nevada,
state
education
association,
the
voice
of
nevada
educators
for
over
120
years,
as
assembly
member
watts
said
it
is
the
time
nsca
wholeheartedly
supports
ab-88
prohibiting
the
use
of
any
name
logo,
mascot
song
or
other
identifier,
that
is
racially
discriminatory
in
nevada
schools
at
our
1991
representative
assembly,
the
national
education
association
adopted
a
new
business
item
to
discourage
the
initiation
and
continued
use
of
prejudicial
and
derogatory
names
and
symbols
of
ethnic
groups
for
schools,
sporting
teams
and
mascots
in
the
last
30
years.
M
We
have
reaffirmed
this
position
on
numerous
occasions,
because
educators
have
long
known
the
use
of
racially
discriminatory
language
and
symbols
in
schools
is
wrong
and
contributes
to
a
hostile
learning
environment.
For
many
students
of
color
20
years
ago,
the
united
states
commission
on
civil
rights,
issued
a
strong
statement
calling
for
the
end
of
use
of
native
images
and
team
names
by
non-native
schools.
M
I'll
read
the
statement.
The
stereotyping
of
any
racial,
ethnic,
religious
or
other
groups
when
promoted
by
our
public
education
institutions
teaches
all
students
that
stereotyping
of
minority
groups
is
acceptable,
a
dangerous
lesson.
In
a
diverse
society,
schools
have
a
responsibility
to
educate
their
students.
They
should
not
use
their
influence
to
perpetuate
misrepresentations
of
any
culture
or
people.
Thank
you.
A
I
don't
see
any
so
if
we
could
go
to
those
that
if
we
could
queue
up
those
that
are
in
support
that
are
online.
H
H
J
J
P-H-R-I-S-T-I-N-E-S-A-U-N-D-E-R-S
policy
director
representing
the
progressive
leadership
alliance
of
nevada
here
in
support
av
88.
We
want
to
thank
assemblyman
watch
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
especially
for
the
proposed
amendment
today.
Ending
the
use
of
sundown
sirens
2020
was
a
year
of
reckoning
like
none
before
where
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
across
the
nation
took
to
the
streets
to
demand
action
to
address
systemic
racism,
and
yet
there
are
many
terms
still
utilized
in
our
state
which
retain
a
connection
to
overt
racist
systems
of
oppression.
J
In
addition,
there
have
been
real
impacts
of
racial
stereotyping.
Inaccurate
racial
portrayals,
particularly
in
a
place
of
learning
they've,
been
found
to
be
harmful
to
the
self
self-esteem
and
development
of
bipod
communities.
In
fact,
the
american
psychological
association
called
for
an
end
to
using
indigenous
mass
labs
over
15
years
ago
because
of
the
concern
for
students.
J
In
the
past
year,
we
have
seen
brands
like
aunt
jemima
uncle
ben's
and
cream
of
wheat
land,
o'lakes
and
disneyland
have
all
committed
to
making
changes
to
their
racist
imagery.
It
is
long
past
due
for
nevada,
to
acknowledge
our
past
and
make
amends
to
the
diverse
population
who
call
this
state
home.
We
ask
what
you
pass
assembly
bill
88.
Thank
you.
H
I
The
rssc
would
like
to
go
on
record
in
support
of
ab-88
in
2014,
chairman
arlen
melendez
joined
other
leaders
throughout
indian
country
to
speak
out
against
racially
offensive
mascot
names.
At
that
time,
the
national
congress
of
american
indians
adopted
a
resolution,
noting
that
quote
the
limited
and
sparse
representations
of
native
americans
in
the
media
and
popular
culture
comprise
a
significant
portion
of
what
children
learn
about
native
people
and
thereby
impact
their
identity
formation
by
reinforcing
stereotypes
about
native
cultures.
From
the
past
and
present
end
quote.
I
On
a
personal
note,
I
went
to
elko
high
school,
whose
mascot
is
the
indians.
There's
certainly
been
some
awareness
in
that
community
because
at
some
point
the
caricatures
indian
head
was
changed
to
be
a
more
respectful
representation
of
a
native
headdress.
However,
today
there
are
competing
online
petitions
advocating
for
and
against
keeping
the
mascot.
I
I
was
a
native
student
athlete
at
elko
high
and
I
had
to
compartmentalize
and
separate
myself
from
my
school's
mascot
as
a
student,
you're,
powerless
to
do
anything
else,
and
you
have
a
mixed
sense
of
pride
for
your
school
further.
Some
of
you
may
have
seen
the
comments
this
week
where
someone
with
a
national
platform
said
quote:
yes,
we
have
native
americans,
but
candidly
there
isn't
much
native
american
culture
in
american
culture.
End
quote
until
our
institutions
and
laws
start
recognizing
that
natives
are
more
than
a
mascot.
I
H
J
J
This
has
made
it
difficult
for
communities
to
confront
the
racism
that
exists
within
our
system.
Nevada
can
become
a
state
that
will
lead
on
this
issue
and
confront
it.
By
passing
this
bill,
we
have
recently
seen
unlv
retire
at
smascott,
while
it
was
the
decision
that
took
a
while,
it
was
still
very
much
necessary.
J
We
cannot
allow
this
to
happen
again
in
the
state
of
nevada.
The
use
of
racially
discriminatory
identifiers
can
perpetuate
racial
stereotypes
and
have
harmful
effects
on
our
students
in
nevada.
There
are
studies
that
have
shown
that
exposure
to
native
youth
of
native
stereotypes
and
racist
mascots
can
become
damaging
to
their
self-esteem.
J
H
H
J
C-H-R-A-S-T-I-C-A-B-R-E-R-A-
and
I
am
the
policy
and
advocacy
director
of
the
nevada
conservation
league
here
in
strong
support
of
ab-88,
we
are
especially
supportive
of
section
3,
which
requires
the
nevada
state
board
of
geographic
names,
to
recommend
changes
to
the
names
of
geographic
features
and
places
that
are
racially
discriminatory,
broken
and
racing.
Racist
systems
must
be
addressed
before
we
can
truly
have
a
healthy
and
just
environment,
and
it's
past
time
to
change
the
name
of
offenses
change,
the
offensive
names
of
public
lands
and
spaces.
J
Sorry,
our
public
lands
and
historic
sites
tell
a
unique
story
about
nevada's
history
and
should
reflect
a
narrative
that
is
inclusive
of
communities
who
have
made
a
positive
and
lasting
contribution
to
our
state,
while
our
country
continues
to
reckon
with
our
racist
and
bigoted
past.
This
is
an
important
step.
Nevada
can
take
to
rightfully
reclaim
and
retell
our
history
in
a
manner
that
honors
those
who
came
before
us
and
allow
our
country
to
heal
from
the
hurtful
and
dangerous
narratives
of
the
past.
J
H
J
P-A-I-G-E-B-A-R-N-E-S,
I'm
here
today
representing
the
nevada
association
of
school
words.
We
are
here
in
support
of
ab-88
the
create
creation
of
a
process
established
in
the
bill
and
the
intent
to
respect
all
of
nevada's
communities.
We
want
to
thank
assemblyman
watts
for
bringing
forward
the
bill
and
encourage
you
all
to
support
it.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
H
J
I'm
sarah
park
s-a-r-a-h-p-a-r-k,
chair
dentist
and
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
a
volunteer
member
of
the
sierra
club's
legislative
committee
on
behalf
of
the
sierra
club,
and
there
are
more
than
30
000
members
and
supporters
statewide,
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
ab-8
aid.
I
am
a
female
of
color
in
public
high
school
and
I
believe
this
bill
is
very
important.
I
have
faced
racism
in
the
system.
It
is
inevitable,
but
I
could
not
fathom
a
racial
score
about
me
being
celebrated
to
build
school
spirit.
J
However,
that
situation
is
status
quo
for
many
minorities,
many
mascots
names,
identifiers
and
more
appropriated
after
culture,
especially
native
american
culture.
Too
often
in
the
past
names
that
disrespected
indigenous
cultures
or
insulted
other
races
refer
to
white
gaze
and
view.
Not
only
is
this
harmful
to
the
groups
affected,
it
reinforces
false
and
harmful
stereotypes.
This
virulent
racist
practice
should
be
prohibited.
The
us
has
founded
attendance
of
equality
and
permitting
these
racist
identifiers
is
harmful
to
individuals
and
entire
communities
in
our
country.
J
We,
as
sierra
club,
are
working
hard
to
make
changes,
so
everyone
of
all
ages,
ethnicities,
gender
religions,
lgbtq,
plus
etc,
are
included.
Welcome
and
comfortable.
We
hope
this
will
be
adopted
by
others,
so
that
schools
and
public
buildings
will
be
included.
Thanks
to
this
legislation,
nevada
can
be
a
model
for
this
country.
Every
entity
should
actively
seek
to
promote
equality
and
create
equitable,
safe
spaces.
Sierra
club's
mission
is
to
explore,
enjoy
and
protect
the
planet,
but
that
isn't
possible
if
all
people
do
not
feel
welcome
in
our
shared
public
spaces.
J
This
needs
to
happen
in
our
criminal
justice,
education
and
healthcare
systems,
as
well,
all
of
which
fail
communities
of
color
at
far
greater
rates
than
white
people.
We
appreciate
this
bill
for
the
process
of
set
scores
to
still
think
of
religious
names
and
variety
of
ways
they
appear
in
nevada
and
that
the
broad
still
necessary
for
business.
We
urge
you
to
support
aba.
Thank
you.
H
J
Good
afternoon,
chair
with
chairman
dennis
and
members
of
the
senate
education
committee,
this
is
sabra:
newby,
f,
a
b
r,
a
n
e
w
b
y
representing
the
university
of
nevada,
las
vegas
in
support
of
ab-88.
I
want
to
thank
assemblyman
watts
for
bringing
this
important
issue
forward.
Unlv,
as
you
know,
puts
mascot
hay,
reb
on
leave
last
spring
and
officially
retired
him
in
july
and
sorry
in
january
of
this
year.
We
believe
this
action
was
an
important
step
towards
achieving
social
justice.
J
U.S
news
and
world
report
ranks
unlv
as
the
second
most
diverse
universe
university
in
the
united
states,
actively
working
towards
anti-racism
and
equity.
Isn't
just
the
right
thing
to
do.
It's
part
of
our
student-centered
approach
for
our
diverse
community
of
students,
faculty
and
staff.
For
this
reason
we
are
in
strong
support
of
ab-88.
Thank
you.
H
J
J
A
H
H
A
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair
howard,
watts,
for
the
record
briefly.
I
just
say
that
those
who
spoke
in
support
did
a
better
job
than
I
could
so
I
just
lift
up
the
remarks
that
you've
you've
heard
on
this
and
reiterate
that
these
are
often
difficult
conversations,
but
they're
important
conversations
for
us
to
have,
and
I
believe
that
ab
88
is
a
smart
next
step
towards
having
these
conversations
and
addressing
some
of
the
issues
as
a
result
of
of
our
history
in
this
state.
So
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
K
I
will
send
some
additional
follow-up
information
to
the
committee
for
for
your
awareness
and
urge
your
support
of
the
bill.
Thank
you.
A
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair,
dennis.
Thank
you.
Vice
chair,
dondera
lupin,
members
of
the
senate
committee
on
education,
it's
nice
to
meet
you
all
good
afternoon
for
the
record.
My
name
is
vinicia
considine.
I
am
assembly,
woman
for
assembly,
district
18
and
I'm
here
to
present
on
ab-169,
which
revises
provisions
governing
higher
education.
N
This
bill
originated
as
a
consumer
protection
bill
which
it
still
is,
but
I
it
was
a
it
was
a
journey
for
me
to
to
learn
the
depth
and
the
breadth
of
the
private
pro-secondary
education
system
in
the
state.
You
have
schools
like
beginning,
you
know
at
tyrol
university
all
the
way
down
into
schools
that
you
know.
I
know
I've
heard
referred
to
as
like
whack-a-mole
schools,
well
they'll
pop
up
and
then,
as
soon
as
somebody
is
aware,
that
they're
doing
something
unlawful,
they'll,
shut
down
and
they'll
pop
up
somewhere
else.
N
So
speaking
with
the
commission
on
post-secondary
education
and
other
stakeholders
in
this
area
came
up
with
some
consumer
protections
for
students
that
want
to
go
to
a
private
post-secondary
institution
in
this
state.
I
think
this
bill
is
timely,
because
whenever
there
is
an
economic
downturn,
you
have
more
people
that
are
either
out
of
work
or
that
are
readjusting
what
they
want
to
do
in
the
future,
and
they
are
looking
to
educational
institutions
to
help
them
bridge
the
they
wear
from
where
they
are
to
where
they
want
to
be.
N
At
the
same
time,
there
is
a
high
propensity
for
new
schools
to
pop
up
that.
Don't
necessarily
have
the
the
the
education
of
the
student
at
the
forefront
so
trying
to
find
a
few
things
that
that
would
bridge
these
two
is
where
this
bill
came
from.
So
my
goal
is
to
just
go
through
the
bill.
There
are
no
amendments,
there
are
amendments
in
the
assembly
and
those
were
accepted.
This
came
out
of
the
assembly
unanimous.
N
N
Now
this
doesn't
mean
that
they
can't
engage
in
recruiting
activities
at
a
center
for
employment
opportunities
operated
by
with
the
support
of
local
state
or
federal
government
and
with
the
end,
with
the
permission
of
that
center.
These
are
for
schools
that
are
looking
or
are
making
promises
or
reaching
out
to
people
in
the
homeless
corridor
or
in
areas
where
it
is
quite
clear
that
that
folks
may
not
be
able
to
afford
to
go
to
necessarily
that
private
secondary
institution.
N
So
that's
where
that
portion
came
from,
we
added
words
in
section
1.3,
subsection,
1a,
current
and
complete
in
a
catalog
to
ensure-
and
this
was
done
with
the
input
of
the
commission
for
postsecondary
education-
to
ensure
that
the
catalog
or
the
brochure
has
all
of
the
information.
Someone
would
need
to
make
an
educated
decision
as
to
whether
or
not
they
want
to
attend
this
institution.
N
We
also
the
the
information
must
be
provided
signing
an
agreement
to
enroll.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
learned
during
this
journey
was
that
agreements
to
enroll
there
were
some
issues
with
whether
or
not
you
know
the
signing
of
those
was
done
in
an
informed
manner.
N
That
is
why
it
includes
a
statement
that
the
student
or
the
student's
guardian
have
reviewed
each
section
of
the
agreement
and
had
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
that
the
agreement
be
printed
at
at
least
10
point
font.
I
learned
that
some
of
these
enrollment
agreements
were
as
small
as
a
six
point
font
or
an
eight
point
fund.
N
So
I
know
it
may
seem
weird
that
we
are
specifically
listing
a
10-point
font,
but
that's
a
minimum
10-point
font
and
that
they
include
what
the
cancellation
policy
for
that
institution
may
be,
that
it
provides
an
agreement
that
they
can
cancel
no
later
than
three
days
after
signing
the
agreement
and
what
that
cancellation
process
requires.
N
So
if
you
have
ever
gone
into
an
entity
and
you've
gone
through
the
agreement-
and
you
know
you're
very
excited
about
it
and
you're
agreeing
to
everything-
that's
happened,
but
you're
not
having
the
time
to
sit
back
and
think
well
wait.
A
minute
can
I
afford
this.
Is
this
where
I
want
to
go?
Is
this
the
best
way
for
me
to
go
forward
having
a
three-day
cancellation
policy
is
fairly
standard,
a
law
across
a
lot
of
contractual
obligation
areas?
So
that's
why
that
was
added
also
further
down
on
page
three
starting
on
line
34.
N
So
if
someone
has
questions,
any
disclosures
are
easy
to
find
on
their
website
or
in
their
documents
in
the
catalog,
as
well
include
a
statement
indicating
where
a
person
can
access
the
complaint
policy
of
the
post-secondary
educational
institution
in
the
catalog
or
brochure
of
the
institution
or
on
the
main
page
of
the
internet
website.
Again,
these
are
consumer
protections.
If
someone
has
a
complaint-
and
you
don't
know
where
to
go
to
get
it,
you
want
to
make
sure
that
those
are
easy
to
find
as
a
consumer.
N
N
The
word
is
used
sorry
to
go
backwards,
but
if
you
look
on
page
four
on
line
three,
that
if
an
institution
has
substantially
failed
to
furnish
the
training
program
agreed
upon
in
the
enrollment
agreement,
the
institution
shall
refund
a
student
all
the
money.
The
student
has
paid
that's
already
in
the
law.
What
we
wanted
to
do
was
give
the
definition
of
substantially
failed
to
furnish
furnish.
So
that's
why
section
five
is
in
there.
N
It
includes
canceling
and
or
changing
a
training
program
agreed
upon
in
the
enrollment
agreement.
If
the
institution
does
that,
they
must
offer
the
student
a
fair
chance
to
complete
the
same
program
or
another
program
with
demonstrated
possibility
of
placement
equal
or
higher
to
the
possibility
of
placement
of
the
original
program
or
obtain
the
written
agreement
of
the
student
to
the
specified
changes
and
and
a
statement
that
the
student
is
not
being
coerced
or
forced
into
accepting
these
changes.
N
Unless
the
cancellation
or
change
of
a
program
is
in
response
to
a
change
in
the
requirements
of
the
occupation
that
the
student
is
in
the
and
the
institution
for
outside
of
those
areas,
then
the
the
law
would
require
or
constantly
does
require
that
the
student
gets
a
refund.
So
I
know
that's
kind
of
a
lot
of
information.
I
wanted
to
go
through
the
bill
overall,
it's
a
consumer
protection
bill
for
students
that
are
trying
to
better
their
their
economic
prospects
in
our
community.
So
I'm
open
to
any
questions.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
the
bill.
I
just
have
a
couple
questions,
so
is
this
directed
mostly
at
our
high
our
universities
and
our
community
colleges?
Is
this
directed
more
at
a
private
institution
who
may
provide
health
care
training?
F
N
N
N
So
this
does
cover
like
a
broader
range
of
schools
than
than
I
had
originally
believed,
so
it
does
cover
for
some
of
the
private
medical
schools
all
the
way
down
to
we're
not
all
the
way
down
all
the
way
across
to
some
of
the
occupational
schools.
It
does
not
include
cosmetology
schools,
but
it
does
cover
sort
of
all
of
the
others.
N
Some
of
these
changes
will
not
affect
any
schools.
The
schools,
the
institutions
that
I've
spoken
with
throughout
this
process
and
the
larger
ones
have
not
had
any
issues
with
any
of
these
changes.
Most
of
them
do
these
already.
These
are
some
changes
for
just
say
some
smaller
schools
as
far
as
like
the
size,
or
they
have
a
single
or
focus
or
two
focuses
like
what
you
were
saying.
Some
of
the
the
nursing
schools
or
the
assistant
schools,
so
those
would
this
would
apply
to
all
of
those
that
are
private,
post-secondary
institutions.
N
A
B
Hardy,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
So
eventually
one
of
our
goals
is
to
have
a
school
for
the
blind,
so
this
does
not
preclude
them
from
starting
the
school
for
the
blind
and
having
their
information
in
braille,
but
it
obviously
they
can't
read
ten
point,
let
alone
six
point,
but
it
doesn't
preclude
them
from
doing
that
in
braille.
It
just
makes
sure
that
we
do
what
we're
supposed
to
do
and
tell
them
what
our
intent
is.
N
Thank
you
senator
for
the
question
through
the
chair
to
senator
hardy.
Now
this
is
a
floor
for
for,
if
the
institutions,
this
does
not
stop
any
institution
from
doing
anything,
additional,
providing
more
appropriate
tools
for
their
students
or
an
appropriate
way
for
a
student
to
obtain
all
of
this
information.
Ideally
websites
will
also
be
accessible
to
to
the
blind
as
well.
So
this
information
that
would
be
on
the
websites
just
kind
of
plays
right
right
into
that,
but
it
is
not
stopping
any
institution
from
giving
their
their
students
a
better,
a
better
access.
N
So
that
the
commission
on
post-secondary
education
already
has
laws
on
that
that
how
the
process
of
getting
that
funding
back
and
the
process
of
the
commission
on
post-secondary
education
going
after
some
of
those
schools
that
that
closed
without
refunding
money
or
any
of
that
that's
already
in
there.
Otherwise
it
would
have
been
in
this
bill.
F
A
Just
one
clarification
on
when
it
talks
about
in
section
one
where
it
says
shall
not
engage
in
recruiting
activities
where
prospective
students
cannot
reasonably
be
expected
to
make
informed
decisions
regarding
enrollment
who
who
defines
what
that
is,
is
that
the
commission.
N
N
Thank
you
for
the
question
vinish
constantine,
for
the
record
and
to
the
chair.
This
was
language
that
was
done
that
we
found
in
best
practices
across
the
country,
and
there
was
in
some
locations.
They
did
have
a
defined
list
of
of
areas.
Some
of
them
we
did
not
find,
would
fall
necessarily
under
this.
Like
the
best
example,
as
I
said
before
was
say
in
the
homeless
corridor,
other
locations
had
a
list
where
they
included
like
welfare
offices.
N
This
would
be
this
could
be
defined
through
regulation
or
it
could
be
defined
through
the
commission
on
post-secondary
education,
but
there
we
do
not
have
a
defined
list.
I
don't
know
if,
if
legal
has
wanted
to
add
anything
to
that.
G
G
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
Any
other
questions.
Okay,
are
we
ready
to
take
testimony?
Is
this
at
the
end
of
your
presentation.
A
A
H
H
H
A
H
I
For
the
record,
my
name
is
kelly:
wiest
k-e-l-l-y
w-u-e-s-t.
I
am
the
administrator
for
the
commission
on
post-secondary
education.
Hopefully
I'll
answer
a
couple
of
questions
that
you
have
asked.
Currently,
the
commission
on
post-secondary
education
licenses,
148
institutions
from
pre-licensing
and
insurance
up
to
a
doctoral
level
college
degrees.
This
new
number.
I
Programs
and
100
institutions
offering
non-degreed
vocational
training
programs.
So
last
year
we
had
29
000
students
enroll
in
a
private
post-secondary
institution
as
a
new
student
and
we're
all
required
to
sign
an
enrollment
agreement
and
receive
a
catalog.
This
bill
will
have
significant
impact
on
future
enrollees
and
their
understanding
of
enrollment
contracts.
I
So
I
would
like
to
thank
the
assemblyman
assemblywoman
constandine
for
taking
the
time
to
meet
with
myself
and
the
chair
of
the
commission
about
the
language,
and
I
would
like
to
say
that
this
is
specifically
for
private
post-secondary
institutions,
barring
cosmetology,
barbering
and
dmv.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
N
A
N
A
N
N
I
do
represent
assembly
district
18
proudly,
I'm
here
to
present
on
ab215,
which
revises
provisions
governing
the
eligibility
requirements
for
participation
in
courses
for
an
adult
to
earn
a
high
school
diploma.
The
conception
of
this
bill
came
to
me
from
a
constituent
ms
leilani
shive,
who
is
on
zoom
and
will
be
co-presenting
with
me
today.
O
Thank
you
thank
you,
chair
dennis,
and
vice
chair,
dondero
lube,
as
well
as
the
rest
of
the
education
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
leilani
shive
and
I'm
here
to
discuss
8215
with
you,
I'm
an
assistant
principal
at
sunrise,
mountain
high
school
and
I'm
also
an
evening
site
supervisor
for
adult
education,
which
I've
been
doing
since
about
2013-14
school
year.
So
about
seven
years
with
adult
ed.
I
brought
this
concern
to
assemblywoman
considine,
because
it's
something
that's
been
an
issue
every
year
for
a
small
group
of
students.
O
And
then
we
look
at
the
age,
the
birthday,
and
every
year
there
are
roughly
a
dozen
or
so
students
who
contact
me,
and
I
just
want
to
cringe,
because
they
only
need
a
few
credits
to
complete
their
diploma,
but
they're
only
17
years
old
and
in
some
cases
they
won't
turn
18
until
as
late
as
september
30th,
which
is
based
on
when
they
started
kindergarten.
O
So
the
way
the
law
currently
reads,
the
student
needs
to
be
18
to
go
into
adult
education
to
into
the
adult
diploma
program,
so
they
can
finish
their
credits
and
their
diploma
at
17.
They
can
only
go
into
the
high
school
equivalency
program,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
the
hiset
or
the
ged
type
program.
I
myself
started
with
a
ged,
but
I
would
not
recommend
it
when
they
just
need
a
few
credits
to
get
an
actual
diploma.
O
O
Again
I
want
to
emphasize.
We
are
not
trying
to
allow
17
year
olds
to
just
quit
school
and
go
to
an
adult
diploma
program.
This
is
only
to
assist
those
17
year
olds
who
attended
four
years
of
high
school,
but
did
not
graduate
to
allow
them
the
same
opportunity.
For
example,
if
you
have
two
students,
one
is
eighteen,
one
is
seventeen.
They
four
years
have
gone
by,
neither
one
of
them
graduated
the
way
the
law
is
currently
written.
O
That
eighteen-year-old
could
go
right
into
the
diploma
program
finish
their
diploma
boom
done
the
17
year
old
would
have
to
wait
until
they
turn
18.
In
order
to
go
into
the
diploma
program,
they
would
have
to
go
into
the
high
set
program.
If
they
wanted
to
go
through
adult
debt,
they
only
need
a
few
credits.
That
would
be
silly.
O
A
N
And
if
I
may
sort
of
follow
up
on
that,
I
want
to
emphasize
that
this
is
another
option
for
a
student,
a
student
in
this
situation.
If
they
are
17
years
old,
they
have
attended
high
school
for
four
years,
but
they
are
credit.
Deficient
can
choose
to
go
to
high
sec,
they
can
choose
to
go
to
summer
school
or
they
can
choose
if
it
works
for
them
under
this
bill
to
go
to
adult
education
and
complete
those
credits
that
way
and
get
their
diploma
again.
N
I
think
that
this
bill
is
timely,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
students
through
the
pandemic,
especially
on
the
east
side
of
las
vegas.
Where
I
represent,
who
are
working
full-time
if
they
don't
complete
all
of
their
credits,
they
will
likely
continue
to
keep
working
full-time,
even
if
they
don't
graduate.
N
This
gives
them
gives
them
an
option
if
they
do
want
to
graduate,
and
they
do
not
want
to
wait
to,
as
was
said
earlier
strike
why
the
iron
is
hot
and
get
their
diploma
so
that
we
have
a
lot
more
more
students
obtaining
their
diplomas
in
our
community.
This
does
affect
a
small
or
a
narrow
area
of
students
because
of
the
the
the
birth
date
for
them
to
go
into
kindergarten.
So
this
is
not
a
huge
amount
of
students
each
year.
N
It
would
be
I'm
from
from
the
information
I
was
given
a
dozen
a
few
dozen
every
year
that
would
be
eligible
doesn't
mean
that
this
would
be
the
area
that
they
would
choose,
but
I
believe
that
the
more
options
that
we
can
provide
students
who
want
to
get
their
diploma,
the
better
and
I'm
available
and
miss
chive,
is
available
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
F
It
may
only
impact
a
few
students,
but
I
think
right
now
it's
more
than
a
few,
and
we
have
students
who
can't
go
on
to
do
something
like
a
trade
school
because
they
need
those
diplomas
and
those
credits.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
It's
very
important
to
the
adult
education
program,
which
services
you
know
a
an
important
population
in
our
in
our
communities.
B
N
A
Other
questions:
okay,
not
hearing
any.
Let's
go
to
those
that
wish
to
give
public
comment.
Anyone
wishing
to
give
public
comment
here
go
ahead
and
come
forward
in
support.
H
H
A
H
H
I
As
ms
shives
stated,
it
will
help
a
handful
of
students
to
get
exactly
where
they
need
to
be,
and
so
they
do
not
have
the
delay
between
finishing
school
and
having
to
enroll
into
an
adult
program
when
they're
18..
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
at
clark
county
school
district,
we
are
in
support.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
H
I
Representing
the
nevada
association
of
school
superintendents
and
we
are
in
support
of
this
bill,
it
gives
students
another
opportunity
to
meet
that
goal
of
that
high
school
diploma,
and
we
think
it's
a
great
idea.
It
may
impact
only
a
few
students
but
they're
every
student
is
important
and
so
we're
very
supportive
of
the
bill
and
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
for
bringing
it
forward.
Thank
you.
A
A
H
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
we'll
come
back
and
any
some
of
them
and
concentrating
any
closing
comments.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chair
vinisha,
constantine
for
the
record.
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
hearing
this
bill.
I
believe
education
is
the
gateway
to
opportunity
and
to
build
a
better
life.
That's
why
I
moved
here.
30
years
ago,
I've
been
able
to
build
a
better
life
for
myself,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
is
available
for
others
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
And
we'll
go
to
next
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
public
comment.
Anyone
wishing
to
give
public
comment,
you
could
come.
Let's
see
anybody
here
in
the
in
the
room
wishing
you
public
comment
nobody's
coming
forward.
So
let's
go
to
anyone
wishing
to
give
public
comment
online
if
we
could
queue
up
the
first.
H
H
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that
just
giving
a
heads
up
to
the
members
that
we
do
have
that.
B
A
Think
our
our
committee
picture
is
going
to
be
taken
some
time
here,
so
it'll
get
on
your
calendars
and
so
be
looking
for
that
in
the
next
week
or
two.
So
I
think
that's
all
we
have
before
us
at
this
point.
So
with
that
having
no
other
items
can
be
forced
we
will
meet
on
wednesday
will
be
our
next
meeting,
and
so
with
that
we
are
adjourned.