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A
Thank
you
very
much
well
welcome
to
the
senate
committee
on
government
affairs,
and
I
appreciate
all
of
you
being
here
and
your
participation
and
being
patient
with
us
on
the
timing.
Members
please
remember,
remember
to
mute
your
microphone
when
not
speaking
and
secretary,
would
you
please
call
the
role
vice
chair,
orrin
shaw
here,
senator
garcia.
A
A
Here
all
members
are
present,
and
I
appreciate
that
just
a
brief
reminder
that
we
will
be
having
public
comment
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
and
so,
if
you
will
kindly,
we
will
go
to
the
bills
right
away.
And
today
the
committee
will
be
hearing
two
bills:
assembly
bill,
22
and
assembly
bill
77,
both
sponsored
on
behalf
of
the
department
of
veterans
services,
and
so
I
will
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
22
and
when
you're
ready.
D
Good
morning,
chair,
dondero
loop,
vice
chair
orange
hall
and
members
of
the
senate
committee
on
government
affairs,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
assembly
bills.
22
and
77..
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
wonderful,
thank
you
I'll
start
with
ab22,
which
requires
the
establishment
and
maintenance
of
a
transition
assistance
program
for
veterans
and
servicemen
and
service
women.
D
Some
returning
veterans
have
difficulty
transitioning
to
civilian
life.
They
experience
higher
rates
of
recorded
disabilities
and
associated
health
concerns
than
previous
generations
of
veterans
and
in
recent
surveys,
returning
service
members
indicate
that
their
greatest
reintegration
challenges
are
finding
meaningful
employment,
affordable
housing
and
affordable
health
care.
D
There
are
many
programs
that
can
assist
returning
service
members
reintegrate.
However,
service
members
are
often
unaware
of
these
programs.
The
department
of
defense
in
partnership
with
the
u.s
department
of
veterans
affairs,
does
offer
a
federal
transition
assistance
program
or
tap
to
service
members
preparing
to
leave
the
military.
D
D
The
limited
state
information
that
is
offered
in
the
federal
tap
is
specific
to
the
state
where
a
veteran
is
immediately
ending
his
or
her
service,
not
the
location
of
their
intended
permanent
residence.
In
short,
they
may
learn
about
the
benefits
that
texas
offers,
if
they
leave
fort
hood
or
that
oklahoma
offers,
if
leaving
tinker
air
force
base,
but
they
will
not
learn
about
the
nevada
programs
and
services
services
that
are
essential
to
their
successful
transition
home
to
nevada.
D
Many
recent
surveys
also
show
that
state
programs
and
services
are
the
most
valuable
to
transitioning
service
members
at
the
top
of
the
list,
are
local
employment,
housing
and
health,
health
care
and,
of
course,
k-12
enrollment
for
service
members
who
have
children
all
programs
offered
by
the
state
and
local
governments,
non-profit
organizations
and
private
businesses
here
in
nevada.
D
The
intent
of
this
legislation
is
that
nevada
offer
an
in-person
state
transition
program
in
clark,
washoe
in
churchill,
counties
supported
by
specific
state
agencies
using
existing
resources,
those
counties,
because
that's
where
you
have
nellis
creech
and
fallon
and
then
in
washoe
county.
You
have
your
large
population
of
nevada,
national
guard
and
reservists.
D
Ndvs
would
also
create
an
online
version
so
that
service
members
on
installations
outside
of
nevada
could
learn
about
these
services
before
leaving
service
and
returning
to
nevada.
So
they
wouldn't
have
to
wait
till
they
got
here
to
find
out
how
to
enroll
their
kids
in
school
or
how
to
get
on
the
silver
state
exchange
or
how
to
you
know,
some
of
the
benefits
that
are
associated
with
housing,
such
as
the
home
is
possible
for
heroes,
program
under
business
and
industry.
D
This
program
would
also
be
valuable
to
recently
separated
veterans
relocating
in
nevada.
In-Person
participation
would
not
be
required
by
agencies
supporting
the
program.
In
some
cases
they
might
just
simply
be
providing
information
in
forms
of
existing
brochures
or
online
links
and
participating.
State
agencies
could
include
the
department
of
business
and
industry,
department
of
education,
dieter,
department
of
health
and
human
services,
the
silver
state
exchange
nevada
system
of
higher
education,
among
others,
and
madam
chair.
This
concludes
my
overview
of
ab22.
A
If
you
don't
mind,
if
you
would
stop
at
this
point
so
that
we
can
ask
you
questions
committee,
any
questions
from
the
committee.
C
So
I
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
so
in
in
the
bill:
sv
22,
it
cites
the
the
the
federal
statute,
but
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
some
of
the
things
that
you
have
listed
like
the
workforce,
employment,
vocational
training,
the
usc
that
you
listed
in
the
bill.
C
D
Ma'am,
thank
you
for
the
question.
So
let
me
talk
you
through
an
example.
Let's
say
a
veteran
a
service
member
is
in
fort
worth.
D
I
apologize
chair,
kat
miller
for
the
record,
so
I'll
talk
you
through
a
specific
example
a
couple
of
them.
Let's
say
that
there's
a
veteran
in
fort
polk,
louisiana
and
they're
preparing
to
come
to
nevada
and
then
we'll
take
somebody
that's
at
nellis
already
so
fort
polk
louisiana.
D
If
you're
at
fort
polk,
you
might
go
online
and
try
to
try
to
find
information
about
a
job
in
nevada
and
there
there
could
be
resources
out
there.
There
could
be
a
lot
of
resources.
In
fact,
there
are
so
many
resources,
you're
not
really
sure
where
to
start,
and
so
you
don't
have
a
navigator
to
the
many
programs
and
systems
that
are
taking
place
in
nevada.
D
There
was
a
case
not
not
too
long
ago
of
a
couple,
a
navy
couple
who
had
relocated
to
nevada
and
they
were
trying
to
buy
a
home
and
they
were
standing
in
line
at
a
grocery
store
and
talking
about
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
cost
to
do
a
home,
and
somebody
heard
them
and
said:
oh,
my
gosh
did
you
know
there's
this
special
mortgage
rate.
You
know
that
you
can
work
through
business
and
industry
under
home
is
possible
for
heroes
and
they
didn't
know
about
it.
D
D
So
we
worked
very
hard
at
connecting
veterans
to
these
services,
but
it's
still
disconnected,
and
this
would
bring
it
together
in
a
way
both
online
and
in
person
that
the
veterans
could
the
idea
in
the
online
correction
in
the
in
person
program
in
the
morning.
You
might
just
get
some
quick
introductions
to
all
the
different
agencies
and
then
they
would
be
there
and
you
would
be
able
to
go
to
their
table
and
say
how
do
I
sign
up
for
health
insurance
in
nevada
and
they'd
be
able
to
help
you
on
the
spot?
D
What
do
I
do
about
kate?
How
do
I
get
my
children
in
school
in
clark
county
and
there
would
be
a
representative
there,
and
so
it
would
have
the
resources
there
quarterly.
We
would
do
this.
Training
is
our
is
our
idea
at
nellis
and
creech
and
fallon,
but
for
those
that
aren't
in
nevada
they
could
go
into
an
online
website
find
the
topic.
They
need
hit
it
and
go
directly
to
that
link.
So
you
don't
have
to
go
to
50
different
locations
to
find
the
information
you
want.
E
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
presenting
the
bill,
my
question
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
ab22
passes,
do
you
feel
you
have
the
staff
and
resources
to
implement
this
program?
It
certainly
sounds
like
a
great
great
idea,
but
I'm
just
wondering
is
this:
do
you
think
it's
implementable
with
what
you
have
now
or.
D
Kat
miller
for
the
record
vice
chair.
Yes,
I
do
and-
and
I
say
that,
because
these
organizations
within
the
state
agencies
listed
all
have
outreach
and
information
arms.
So
it's
really
a
question
of
bringing
it
together,
we're
already
leaning
forward
to
to
develop
the
online
program
and
what
you're
talking
about
is
a
quarterly
in-person
cap
that
would
occur
at
the
major
installations
in
nevada.
A
So
miss
miller,
I
have
a
question
for
you,
you
mentioned
nellis
and
creech
and
the
national
guard-
I
I
don't
see
those
identified
in
the
bill,
so
would
they
just
naturally
be
focused
on
that
because
those
are
our
bases
in
nevada.
D
Kat
miller
for
the
record
chair,
those
would
be
the
major
locations
that
we
would
do
it,
but
there
are
other
active
duty
elements
in
nevada.
You've
got
the
corps
of
engineers
that
are
located
in
nevada.
You've
got
out
at
hawthorne.
There
are
a
few
service
members
there.
So
there
are.
There
are
other
active
duty
service
members
in
nevada,
but
that's
where
we
would
do
the
larger
activities.
There
really
isn't
a
big.
D
Cat
miller
for
the
record
chair,
we
do,
but
it's
not
just
us,
so
the
online
offering
is
a
is
a
portal
that
goes
to
you
would
look
at
it
and
there'd
be
a
list
of
things
and
you
know
housing,
and
so
it
would
link
to
the
active
links
to
the
different
agencies.
Education.
You
know
for
your
children,
through
your
k-10,
and
we
have
worked
with
all
the
state
agencies
that
are
listed
in
the
bill
and
they're
excited
about
it,
and
we
already
know
who
their
points
of
contact
are.
D
So
it's
not
just
one
person,
it's
state
agencies
committing
to
coming
together
to
make
sure
that
their
links
are
live
and
it's
the
correct
information.
What
we've
been
able
to
provide
as
a
department
is
what
are
the
most
common
needs
of
those
transitioning
service
members.
What
information
do
they
need,
and
so
we
can
make
sure
it's
packaged
in
a
way,
that's
beneficial
to
them.
A
F
F
B
It's
overdue
for
us
here
in
this
state
to
simplify
it
and
make
our
veterans
productive
when
they
come
home,
because
many
of
these
veterans
that
are
coming
back
to
nevada
are
nevadans
just
returning
home.
So
the
united
veterans
legislative
council
fully
supports
this
bill
and
hopes
for
your
agreement
and
voting
for
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much,
we'll
go
to
opposition.
A
You
very
much
and
with
that
miss
miller,
do
you
have
any
closing
comments
on
assembly
bill
22.
A
D
Ab-77
would
revise
provisions
concerning
our
department,
specifically,
it
would
revise
the
duties
of
the
director
of
the
nevada
department
of
veterans,
services
to
capture
significant
and
essential
duties
already
being
accomplished
and
changed
the
terms
of
four
veterans,
advisory
commissions
and
committees
to
standardize
the
numbers
of
years
for
which
members
are
appointed
I'll
start
with
directors.
Duties
ndvs
currently
creates,
coordinates
and
supports
suicide
prevention
and
homelessness
programs
with
existing
staff
and
resources.
D
These
issues
have
been
top
concerns
for
veterans
and
their
families
for
the
past
decade.
However,
they
are
not
listed
in
the
department
director
duty
session
of
nrs
417,
even
though
there
is
mention
of
other
at-risk
and
special
population
veterans,
for
example,
women,
veterans,
lgbtq
veterans,
veterans,
suffering
from
mst,
etc.
D
Adding
these
duties
to
nrs
417
codifies
what
is
already
in
place,
the
duties
already
being
accomplished,
but
not
captured
in
nrs.
Specifically,
that
would
be
added
connect
veterans,
experiencing
homelessness,
to
housing
and
to
organizations
that
provide
housing,
support
to
decrease
homelessness
among
veterans
and
create
coordinate
and
support
programs
and
resources
for
the
prevention
of
suicide
among
veterans,
including
without
limitations,
programs
and
resources,
to
increase
knowledge
about
how
to
recognize
the
signs
of
potentially
suicidal
veterans
and
resources,
to
which
veterans
who
are
potentially
suicidal
may
be
referred.
D
The
next
section
section
is
commission
and
committee
term
length.
There
is
one
veteran
service
commission,
two
cemetery
advisory
committees
and
one
women
veteran
advisory
committee
established
in
nrs
417,
the
veterans,
service,
commission
or
vsc,
and
cemetery
advisory
committee.
Members
are
appointed
for
two
years
and
the
women
veteran
advisory
committee
members
are
appointed
for
four
years.
D
D
50
of
the
vsc
and
cemetery
board
members
turn
over
annually
according
to
board
resource
in
their
2017
report
on
board
practices.
Ideally,
boards
should
turn
over
no
more
than
one
third
of
the
board
seats
annually.
Moving
from
a
two-year
to
a
three-year
term
length
will
keep
that
turnover
to
the
one-third
goal,
with
two-year
term
limits.
The
governor's
staff
must
appoint
or
re-appoint
10-11
members
annually,
creating
not
only
significant
workload
and
resultant
it
recreates
resultant
appointment.
Delays.
D
Adopting
a
three-year
standard
term
would
reduce
that
workload
and
associated
vacancies
and
get
us
to
about
seven
appointments
required
a
year.
Now
the
women
veteran
advisory
committee,
four-year
term
length,
does
allow
for
continuity
of
operations
and
minimizes
appointment
process
workload.
However,
the
four-year
term
length
is
also
not
optimal,
because
it's
important
to
bring
in
new
members
regularly
to
generate
fresh
ideas
and
to
bring
on
different
members
with
different
cultural
viewpoints.
Skill
sets,
perspectives
and
networks.
D
After
a
review
of
the
statutory
responsibilities
of
veterans
boards
in
nrs
417,
I
can
determine
no
special
circumstance
that
would
suggest
a
need
to
deviate
from
the
general
term
length
requirement
in
our
in
nrs
232
alpha
and
chair
dondera
loop,
vice
chair
orange
ball,
orange
shawl
and
members
of
the
senate
committee
on
government
affairs.
This
concludes
my
presentation
on
ab77
and
I
stand
ready
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
C
How
come
you
guys
aren't
already
a
part
of
like
the
continuum
of
care
that's
going
on
in
clark
county
because
they
have
dollars
or
I
believe
they
have
dollars-
that
focus
on
homelessness
for
veterans
I
mean
typically,
when
the
federal
money
comes
down,
it's
very
specific
and
it
may
not
go
towards
something
else,
but
it
may
you
know
it'll
go
towards
veterans
and
so
there's
been
work
going
on.
C
D
Madam
chair
kat
miller
for
the
record
through
you
to
senator
neil.
Thank
you
for
the
question
we
are
connected.
We
are
connected
not
only
in
clark
county
and
we
sit
on
their
all
of
their
boards,
we're
connected
with
the
regional
area,
homelessness
up
in
northern
nevada.
We
have
brought
in
mayors
and
governors
challenges
for
las
vegas
for
elko
for
truckee
meadows.
D
We
have
more
mayors
and
governors
challenges
to
end
veteran
suicide
and
and
homelessness
programs
than
any
other
state
according
to
the
va
in
terms
of
resources.
So
this
is
not
about
not
connecting
I'm
very
comfortable
with
our
ability
to
connect
it's
about
codifying
what
we're
already
doing
in
nrs.
So
this
doesn't
say
you
must
do
this,
we're
already
doing
it.
D
There
are
many
many
resources
our
veterans
are
eligible
for
that
other
folks
that
are
without
you
know
that
are
homeless,
do
not
have
access
to,
and
so
we
have
a
very
tight
team
between
the
va
between
our
local
counties
between
our
state
resources
and
again,
this
bill
does
not
at
all
suggest
that
we
need
to
do
work
in
this
space.
It's
saying
we
need
to
codify
the
work
that
we
are
doing
to
make
sure
it
continues
on
in
the
future.
D
So
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
submit
to
send
something
to
you,
senator
that
lays
out
everything
we're
doing
in
the
space
of
homelessness.
I
think
you
would
be.
I
think
you
would
be
pleased
and
there's
been
tons
of
progress
on
the
issue
of
veteran
and
veteran
family
member
homelessness
in
nevada.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
because
I
just
you
know.
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
you
were
trying
to
codify
it,
but-
and
I
guess
that
makes
sense,
but
I
just
assumed
that
it
was
a
part
of
like
the
services,
and
you
know
there
was
regulation
or
something
else
around
it,
but
you
just
if
you
needed
in
law
to
continue
to
make
it
happen
until
2028.
D
Madam
chair
kat
miller
for
the
record,
if
I
can
add
one
other
thing
on
that,
please
and
and
senator
neil
you
know
the
nature
of
the
nevada
department
of
veterans
services
was
really
very
siloed
till
about
a
decade
ago.
We
ran
cemeteries,
we
ran
veterans,
service
officers
who
did
claims
and
we
ran
nursing
homes
and
that's
what
we
did,
and
that
was
it.
So
you
know,
as
we
went
out-
and
I
can't
take
credit
for
this
with
several
directors
pass
me
and
as
they're
looking
at
the
needs
of
veterans.
They
were
much
broader
than
that.
D
The
needs
of
transitioning
veterans.
You
know
they
don't
need
cemetery
services
immediately.
They
don't
need
nursing
homes
immediately.
What
they
need
is
housing.
What
they
need
is
health
care.
What
they
need
is
education
for
their
children
and
college
for
them,
and
so
our
department
was
really
not
serving
the
needs.
D
If
you
will
and
and
and
that's
part
of
this
and
we've
over
the
last
10
years-
it's
you
know,
women
veterans
are
in
there
the
needs
of
those
veterans
that
are
homeless,
the
you
know,
and
so
we're
we're
we're
getting
to
it.
But
these
are
two
really
important
missions
for
the
last
four
sessions.
The
number
one
issue
addressed
by
veterans
in
the
veterans,
legislative
symposiums,
have
been
veteran
suicide
and
there's
nothing
in
nrs.
E
E
D
Kat
miller,
for
the
record,
through
your
chair
to
vice
chair
orange
hall,
we
do
reach
out,
and
one
of
our
most
important
missions
is
a
bridge
between
the
va
and
local
communities.
So
the
va
has
many
resources.
The
va
has
personnel
that
can
support.
You
know
you
can
get
a
veteran
connected
with
them.
They
can
help
them
with
all
types
of
assets,
so
can
the
local
communities
so
we're
really
one
of
our
biggest
responsibilities.
D
I
think,
and
one
of
our
biggest
benefits
is
we
serve
as
a
convener
to
bring
together
local
state
and
federal
government
assets
around
the
space
of
veteran
homelessness,
and
we've
done
several
wonderful
convenings,
but
often
the
people
won't
know
each
other
you'll
run
into
somebody
doing
incredible
things
in
elko
in
the
local.
You
know,
department
of
health
and
human
services,
and
they
won't
be
aware
of
the
salt
lake
city,
va
resources
that
would
be
available,
whether
they
be
financial
resources
or
mental
health
resources
that
would
be
available
for
veterans.
D
E
A
So
miss
miller
is-
and
I
know
this
is
part
of
the
other
bill,
but
is
it?
Is
the
information
easily
accessible?
So
I
I
know
sometimes
when
we
have
a
homeless,
veteran
or
a
person
with
mental
illness,
things
may
be
different,
but
is
the
information
access
accessible
so
that
if
they
get
on
the
street
they
can
get
help
or
if
they're
on
the
street
and
they're
suicidal
they
can
get
help?
Is
it?
Is
it
easy
for
them
or
or
seamless
for
them?
I
don't.
A
D
Kat
miller
for
the
record
chair,
there
are
certainly
barriers
to
getting
information
about
programs
to
those
that
are
homeless
that
are
not
there
for
those
that
are
housed
and
it
is.
It
is
a
problem,
but
I
will
tell
you
over
the
past
six
years,
starting,
I
think,
with
the
las
vegas
mayor's
challenge
to
address
homelessness.
D
That
came
in
with
the
va,
a
community-based
program
and
really
they
declared
functional
zero,
which
means
that
all
the
veterans
that
they
knew
about
that
were
experiencing
homelessness
were
were
in
programs
to
address
that
in
in
housing,
with
the
exception
of
those
who
chose
not
to
participate,
why
they
call
it
functional
zero
is
tomorrow
a
service
member
could
get
out.
A
veteran
could
lose
their
job,
you
know,
so
that
is
a
constantly
changing
situation,
but
the
va
has
permanent
staff
members
who
go
out.
D
Our
team
has
folks
that
go
out
with
the
point
in
time.
We
have
folks
on
all
the
you
know
and
you're,
I'm
sure
you
know
more
than
I
do
on
this,
because
it's
been
a
while,
since
I've
been
to
the
las
vegas
one,
but
there
is
a
a
group
that
comes
together
down
in
southern
nevada,
one
in
northern
nevada
and
one
in
eastern
nevada,
where
all
the
players
come
together
that
are
offering
services
and
they
do
crosstalk
to
make
sure
that
you
do
have
those
wraparound
services.
D
I
think
when
it
comes
to
veterans,
it's
been
a
real
success
story
in
terms
of
helping
them
get
the
information
they
need,
but
often
it
means
getting
out
on
the
streets
to
get
that
information
to
them,
because
you
have
to
find
them
first
and
then,
when
you
find
the
veteran
the
va
has
really
relaxed
before
you
had
to
have
certain
character
discharge
before
you
could
get
services,
it
was
a
very
convoluted
system.
They
have
eliminated
a
lot
of
those
barriers
to
getting
support
to
the
veterans
offhand.
D
Our
biggest
problem
in
the
last
couple
of
years
has
been
the
vouchers
for
oh
I'm
drawing
a
blank
on
what
the
name
is.
The
hud
bash
vouchers.
So
hud
vash
gives
about
certain
number
of
vouchers
to
each
state
every
year
that
helps
with
housing
for
veterans,
and
we
had
had
a
problem
there
about
three
years
ago
about
getting
enough
hud,
bash
vouchers
and
right
now
we're
in
a
much
better
place
for
our
veterans.
D
But
it's
something
we
keep
an
eye
on
all
the
time.
So
I'm
sorry
I
know
I
was
all
over
the
map
on
that
one,
but
the
shorter
answer
is
yeah.
It
is
really
hard
to
make
sure
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
have
information
about
the
resources
they
need,
but
we
work
really
really
hard
to
help
bring
the
community
together
to
get
that
information
out.
D
A
A
F
B
Again,
I
have
to
say
ditto
multiple
times
to
director
miller's
comments.
We
are
in
full
support
of
ab77.
We
look
at
this
as
a
nest.
Some
necessary
common
sense
changes
to
nrs
standardizing
committee
member
position
times.
The
three
years
makes
sense,
instead
of
being
on
multiple
committees,
two
years
on
this
one
one
year
on
that
one
four
years
on
this
one,
it's
just
common
sense
and
good
management
to
clean
up
that
part
of
the
nrs.
B
F
D
D
Since
there
is
a
list
of
duties,
I
do
believe
it
should
be
comprehensive
and
those
major
duties,
those
most
needed
and
most
important
to
supporting
the
veterans
who
have
served
us
and
served
our
country
should
be
listed,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
today,
both
on
ab22
and
ab-77.
A
D
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
share
kat
miller
for
the
record,
and
yes,
I
am
calling
in
from
home
today,
I'm
hoping
very
soon.
We
can
get
back
to
full
operation
in
our
offices
and
thank
you,
chair.
A
D
A
Well,
there
you
go
okay.
Thank
you
very,
very
much
all
right
with
that.
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
77
and
we
will
move
on
to
our
period
of
public
comment.
We
are
going
to
wait
just
a
minute
to
give
our
members
of
our
public
time
to
join
us,
and
please
remember
during
public
comment
period
that
you
are
invited
to
comment
on
matters
not
concerning
the
two
bills
we
just
heard,
but
any
other
comment
that
you
would
like
to
make
and
please
clearly
state
and
spell
your
name
and
remember.
F
C
C
C
A
Are
unmuted,
it
has
to
happen
once
a
day
to
all
of
us.
I
think
with
that
we
are
finished
with
our
meeting
and
thank
you
all
for
attending.
Our
next
meeting
will
not
be
until
next
wednesday
april
21st
and
we
will
be
live.
You
will
still
be
able
to
join
by
zoom,
but
please
know
that
we
look
forward
to
seeing
some
of
you
in
the
building
and
most
of
you
online
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
with
that
we'll
adjourn.