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A
Thank
you
very
much
good
afternoon.
Welcome
to
the
senate
government
affairs.
We
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
right
into
our
meeting
today.
After
roll
call,
we
have
several
people
who
are
jumping
in
and
out
of
meetings
today,
and
so,
if
you'll
call
the
role
we'll
try
to
get
ourselves
started,
thank
you.
D
D
A
Here,
thank
you
very
much
and
we
have
a
quorum
and
we're
going
to
go
slightly
out
of
order
today,
because,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
several
people
who
are
in
and
out
of
meetings,
and
so
we
sort
of
have
to
take
everybody
as
they
are
available
and
so
we're
going
to
start
with
senate
bill
368
today,
which
is
on
behalf
of
the
legislative
committee
for
the
review
and
oversight
of
the
tahoe
regional
planning
agency
and
the
marlette
lake
water
system.
E
Thank
you,
chair
don
darrell
loop,
it's
great
to
see
you
and
committee
members
for
the
record,
I'm
sarah
peters,
representing
assembly
district
24
in
reno,
I'm
here
today
to
present
senate
bill
368,
which
authorizes
the
issuance
of
bonds
for
environmental
improvement
projects
in
the
lake
tahoe
basin.
This
bill
was
drafted
upon
recommendation
of
the
interim
legislative
committee
for
the
review
and
oversight
of
the
tahoe
regional
planning
agency
and
the
marlin
lake
water
system.
I
had
the
honor
of
serving
as
vice
chair
of
the
committee
during
the
2019-2020
interim
during
the
interim.
E
The
committee
members
learned
a
great
deal
about
the
necessity
and
success
of
the
lake
tahoe
environmental
improvement
program
eip
for
short
projects
and
restoration
or
sorry
in
restoring
watersheds
and
improving
lake
clarity.
The
eip
is
a
program
whereby
numerous
agencies
in
nevada
and
california
collaborate
and
to
implement
these
critical
environmental
restoration
projects.
E
At
our
final
meeting,
the
committee
voted
unanimously
to
request
the
drafting
of
this
bill
to
authorize
the
issuance
of
not
more
than
four
million
dollars
of
the
100
million
dollars
in
general
obligation
bonds
authorized
in
the
2009
or
in
2009
to
continue
to
implement
nevada's
portion
of
the
lake
tahoe
eip
for
the
2021
to
2023
biennium,
with
ever
increasing
threats
from
climate
change
and
growing
pressures
on
the
basin
from
tourism
and
development.
The
passing
of
this
bill
is
critical
to
continue
the
necessary
work
to
save
lake
tahoe.
E
I
am
joined
in
this
presentation
by
charles
donohue
administrator
division
of
state
lands
and
state
land,
registrar,
state
department
of
conservation
and
natural
resources.
I
hope
the
committee
will
excuse
my
brevity,
but
I
am
scheduled
to
present
two
other
commit
tahoe
interim
committee
bills
in
the
senate
committee
on
growth
and
infrastructure,
which
is
also
meeting
right
now.
With
the
chair's
permission,
I
will
turn
the
presentation
over
to
mr
donohue
and
leave
the
committee
in
his
capable
hands
to
provide
more
information
about
senate
bill
368
and
answer
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much
questions
from
the
committee.
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
committee,
members.
My
name
is
charlie
donahue
and
I
serve
as
the
administrator
of
the
division
of
state
lands.
It's
a
pleasure
to
present
senate
bill
368
with
assemblywoman
peters
this
afternoon,
senate
bill
368
provides
through
the
issuance
of
4
million
dollars
in
general
obligation
bond
authority
for
the
continuation
of
lake
tahoe
environmental
improvement
program
commonly
referred
to
as
the
eip.
G
I
would
like
to
thank
the
lake
tahoe
interim
committee
for
sponsoring
this
important
legislation.
The
division
of
state
lands
has
been
the
lead
coordinating
agency
for
the
nevada
share
of
the
eip.
Since
1999
nevada's,
participation
in
eip
continues
to
be
a
success.
The
iep
is
well
coordinated.
Partnership
with
amongst
the
federal
state,
local
agencies,
the
washoe
tribe
and
the
private
sector.
G
The
partnership
carries
out
projects
to
protect
and
improve
the
lake
tahoe
environment
and
has
become
a
national
model
for
collaborative
leadership.
Nevada
is
a
key
member
whose
commitment
to
the
eip
has
funded
in
excess
of
160
projects
and
focus
areas
of
watersheds,
habitat
and
water
quality,
forest
management
and
recreation.
G
The
aip
is
the
primary
program
to
achieve
environmental
gains
in
the
lake
tahoe
basin.
A
significant
amount
of
this
work
is
coordinated
through
the
nevada
tahoe
resource
team.
The
team
the
state
team
assembled
to
carry
out
this
program
with
representatives
from
the
division
of
state
lands,
division
of
state
parks,
division
of
forestry
and
the
department
of
wildlife.
G
The
team
implements
projects
directly
as
well
as
awards
grants
to
eip
partnering
agencies.
Recent
project
highlights
include
the
award
of
two
water
quality
and
erosion
control
grants.
The
first
grant
is
to
washoe
county
for
a
project
in
incline
village,
and
the
second
is
a
grant
in
nevada,
tahoe
conservation
district
for
a
project
at
marla
bay
in
douglas
county.
These
are
critical
capital
infrastructure
projects
that
capture
storm
water
and
treat
fine
sediment
particles
that
are
known
to
impact
the
lake,
the
lake's
clarity.
G
These
projects
are
implemented
in
coordination
with
the
tahoe
regional
planning
agency,
the
rpa
and
the
division
of
environmental
protection
ndep
to
contribute
to
the
region's
clarity
goals.
These
two
projects
are
estimated
to
be
in
excess
of
3
million
spooner
lake
country.
Excuse
me,
spooner
lake
front
country
phase.
One
is
a
recreational
enhancement
project
located
at
spooner
unit
of
the
lake
tahoe
nevada
state
park.
The
project
includes
construction
of
a
visitor
center
amphitheater
an
entrance
and
an
entrance
road
realignment.
G
G
The
award
for
this
project
was
approximately
3.2
million
dollars,
including
a
generous
gift
from
the
tahoe
fund
of
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
specif,
specifically
for
the
amphitheater
development
phase.
Two
of
this
project
is
currently
under
design
and
dedicated
funding
will
bring
this
to
100
design
park.
Amenities
in
this
phase
will
include
additional
trails,
comfort,
station
upgrades
picnic
notes
and
a
non-motorized
boat
launch
at
spooner
lake,
proper
erp,
eip
bonds,
also
fund
forest
restoration
projects
to
improve
ecosystem
health
and
function
to
protect
the
nevada
state
park
from
catastrophic
wildfire.
G
The
team
is
also
has
been
successful
over
the
years
in
securing
southern
nevada,
public
lands,
management
act
or
sniploma
funds
to
complement
eip
bonds
in
restoring
the
forest
landscape
to
a
more
resilient
condition
throughout
the
state
park,
and
this
way
the
team
leverages
bonds,
as
well
as
other
funding
sources,
to
get
our
work
done,
as
the
agency
has
done
in
many
of
the
previous
legislative
sessions.
Since
the
start
of
the
eip,
the
division
of
state
lands
is
requesting
bonding
authority
for
the
next
round
of
nevada's
projects,
specifically
senate
bill.
G
In
addition
to
improving
the
lake
tahoe
environment,
these
are
active
capital
improvement
projects
which
contribute
to
a
strong
local
economy.
I
would
also
like
the
committee
to
know
that
this
request
is
in
the
governor's
cip
budget
passage
of
senate
bill.
368
allows
the
state
to
build
upon
the
success
of
our
past
projects
and
continuing
moving
forward
with
our
eip
partners
and
protecting
and
restoring
the
lake
tahoe
basin.
Madam
chair
and
committee
members,
with
those
brief
comments,
have
been
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
of
your
questions.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
donahue,
and
again
apologies
for
missing
that
sentence.
Questions
from
the
committee
now
senator
neil.
Are
you
ready,
yeah.
F
F
And
so-
and
I
know
you
did
a
list
of
things,
but
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
what
what
really
took
place
within
the
two
years
with
the
8
million
and
why
a
project
wasn't
completed
with
the
8
million,
because
what
you
mentioned
was
when
you
get
the
money
from
the
state
which
is
nominal
in
the
scheme
of
things.
You're
then
able
to
leverage
that
money
for
more
money.
F
G
G
We
currently
have
a
project
list
for
this
next
biennium,
in
addition
to
the
the
awards
that
I
just
mentioned
to
you
with
a
need
of
11.8
million
dollars,
so
the
8
million
from
the
2019
session
plus
this
four
would
hit
that
sweet
spot
of
right
around
well
12
million
dollars
and
those
12
million
dollars
are
also
authorized
within
the
governor's
cip
budget.
G
G
It
was
approximately
four
million
dollars
and
we
currently
have
a
little
over
six
million
dollars
in
authority
that
is
being
held
in
a
custodia
account
by
the
treasurer's
office,
and
those
funds
are
what
has
enabled
us
to
award
those
grants
to
both
washoe
county
and
douglas
county
for
storm
water
infrastructure
improvements.
F
G
G
The
funds
that
we
still
have
remaining
for
sniploma
are
from
prior
to
that
time
and
they've
actually
been
reserved
for
pile
burning
disposal
of
of
piles
that
we,
where
we've
treated
in
the
state
park,
as
well
as
our
urban
lots,
but
as
a
result
of
poor
burning
conditions,
we
actually
haven't
been
able
to
use
that
until
actually
just
this
past
week,
but
we're
using
bond
funds
in
the
state
park.
For
that
I
just
wanted.
The
committee.
Excuse
me
sorry
to
cut
you
off
ma'am.
F
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
ask
you
something,
and
then
I
want
you
to
correct
me.
As
I
say
it,
so
you
still
have
six
million
in
the
account
2017
that
is
unused,
and
then
you
had
the
8
million
from
2019
that
was
allocated
and
now
you're
asking
for
an
additional
four.
But
really
you
need
11.8
million
right.
G
Madam
chair,
if,
if
I
may,
charlie
donny
for
the
record
senator
neil
the
the
the
little
bit
that
we
have
a
little
over
six
million
dollars
has
been
obligated.
G
What
we've
had
discussions
with
the
governor's
finance
office,
as
well
as
the
treasurer's
office,
that
these
projects,
that
are
this
significant,
the
local
jurisdictions,
aren't
going
to
go
out.
Let
a
contract
for
a
consultant
to
do
design
and
planning
work
or
award
a
contract
unless
they
know
they
have
the
securities
from
the
state
and
an
award
and
that
we
actually
have
the
funds
to
reimburse
burst
them.
G
So
the
the
funds
that
we
have
are
that
are
in
the
custodial
account
at
the
treasurer's
office
are,
for
the
most
part,
obligated
and
they're
they're
done
through
awards
to
local
jurisdictions
or
contracts
that
we
have
on
the
books.
The
request
for
this
4
million
would
be
to
couple
that,
with
the
8
million
authority
that
received
from
2019
and
then
worked
with
the
treasurer's
office
over
the
biennium
to
sell
that
12
million
so
that
we
can
move
forward
with
the
identified
11.8
million
in
terms
of
project
needs
over
this
biennium.
A
F
A
H
I'm
actually
more
confused
now
than
when
we
started.
You
know
senator
senator
neil
charlie.
I
must
say
that
I
think
in
all
the
time
I've
been
in
the
legislature
you're
the
first
guy.
That's
ever
shown
up
and
said
you
actually
had
too
much
money
in
your
accounts
and
they
said
you
couldn't
get
any
more.
If
I,
if
you
have
too
much
money
available
for
bonding,
so
I
have
to
laugh.
I've
never
heard
that
before.
H
If
I,
if
I
heard
it
correct,
no
the
question
I
have
from
that
exchange
afterwards
I'll
talk
to
senator
neal
and
see
the
math
on
it,
because
I've
got
about
15
different
numbers
here
that
I
can't
get
straight.
The
question
I
got
is:
what
have
you
guys
done
since
2017.?
It
sounds
like
you
haven't
done
any
projects.
Hardly
I
mean
you
got
anything
where
you
actually
spent
some
money.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
for
madam
chair,
charlie
donaghy
for
the
records.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question
senator
hansen.
Yes,
we
actually
have
expended
quite
a
bit
of
money.
Actually,
one
of
the
projects
that
we
completed
was
the
forest
restoration
landscape,
resiliency
project,
which
was
in
excess
of
over
a
million
dollars
helicopter
aerial
operation
with
that
received
best
in
the
basin
award
just
this
past
year.
Those
are
actually
the
the
remnants
of
those
piles
are
what
we're
burning
up
there
at
spooner
lake
today
and
started
that
last
week.
G
The
the
reason
that
the
gfo
and
treasurer's
office
were
reluctant
to
move
forward
with
bond
sales
of
the
8
million
in
authority
from
2019,
as
I
indicated,
is
because
they
felt
we
had
too
many
too
much
money
on
the
books
and
could
not
meet
the
three-year
time
period.
I
think
we've
demonstrated
to
them
that
we
can
do
that
with
the
money
that
they're
holding
for
us
in
the
custodial
accounts.
G
One
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
twice
a
year,
the
eip
reports
to
the
ifc,
with
a
progress
and
status
report,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
emphasized
with
my
tahoe
program
manager-
and
this
is
pretty
pandemic-
is
that
we
had
a
pretty
good
track
record
of
expending
approximately
four
to
four
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
all
the
different
project
areas
on
an
annual
basis
that
really
did
drop
off
in
terms
of
project
delivery,
project,
delay,
design
for
some
of
our
larger
projects
and
we're
anticipating.
H
Okay,
well,
thanks
charlie,
I
appreciate
your
thing
or
your
comments.
One
last
question:
I
know
you
guys
don't
have
authority
over
the
tahoe
forest
for
the
most
part,
that's
u.s
forest
service,
but
I
got
to
put
on
the
record:
I'm
scared
to
death
that
we're
going
to
have
a
paradise
fire
type
type
situation
and
you
drive
around
incline
village
or
anywhere
along
our
the
nevada
side
of
the
lake.
Those
forests
are
thick,
there's
tons
of
built-up
fuel,
lots
and
lots
of
you
know.
H
Trees
have
been
killed
by
pine
beetle,
barks
or
whatever
or
pine
beetles
that
get
in
there
and-
and
I
would
say
one
out
of
10
trees
up.
There
is
dead,
I
mean
it's
got,
it's
got
giant
fire
written
all
over
it,
and-
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
to
you
to
make
sure
when
you
talk
to
your
forest
service
people
man
there.
I
hope
somebody
gets
on
that
pretty
quick,
because
every
year
it
just
gets
worse
and
worse
thanks.
Madam
chair.
A
F
I
just
have
one
so
I
just
wanted
to
ask
about
the
the
selling
of
the
12
million,
and
I
guess
this
is
more
curiosity.
What
is
the
instrument
that
he's
going
to
be
using
to
sell
that?
G
G
Sure,
madam
chair,
for
the
record,
charlie
donahue,
thank
you
for
the
question
of
semolina.
Typically,
it's
my
understanding
that
the
treasurer's
office
in
the
past
has
packaged
the
eip
bonds
with
capital
improvement
program
bonds,
so
that
there's
a
larger
offering,
and
these
are
general
obligation,
bonds.
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions
from
the
committee.
A
True
story,
true
story,
mr
donahue,
could
you
kind
of
just
review
what
the
priorities
are
again,
you
don't
have
to
go
over
everything,
but
just
sort
of
give
me
that
overview
again.
G
Sure,
thank
you
for
the
question,
madam
chair.
Our
priorities
are
really
working
with
the
local
jurisdictions
who
have
identified
water
quality
and
erosion
control
projects.
These
are
projects
that
address
storm
water
and
the
and
the
fine
sediments
that
are
known
to
impact
lake
tahoe's
clarity,
the
local
jurisdictions.
G
Priorities
would
be
to
take
center
senator
hanson's
comments
to
heart
and
continue
to
address
our
forest
restoration
projects
and
needs
within
the
state
park
in
the
basin,
and
there
are
two
really
critical
recreational
projects
that
division
of
state
parks
has
identified
and
that's
the
two
phases
of
the
spooner
front
country
project
as
well
as
then
working
with
california,
state
parks
and
the
california
tahoe
conservancy
to
elevate
the
the
infrastructure
and
address
the
needs
that
are
needed
down
in
the
dan
sickle
unit
of
the
state
park,
which
is
down
behind
the
casino
corridor.
A
Additional
questions
from
the
committee:
okay,
seeing
none!
Thank
you,
mr
donahue,
for
all
your
expertise
and
we
will
move
to
support
broadcasting
when
you're,
ready.
I
D
I
D
K
C
C
I
G
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
donahue,
and
we
appreciate
your
time
today
so
with
that
I'll
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill,
368
and
we'll
see
who
we
have
in
the
queue
in
the
meantime.
There's
one
alteration
to
our
agenda.
We
will
not
be
hearing
senate
bill
286
today,
so
I
need
either
senator
spearman
or.
A
A
Okay,
do
we
have
vice
chair
orange
already,
or
is
he
in
a
committee
also.
B
A
Okay,
all
right,
we
will
have
just
a
few
minutes
worth
of
recess.
A
C
A
And
senator
neil,
if,
when
we're
done
with
senator
spearman,
if
vice
chair
orange
hall,
isn't
back
we'll
hand
the
gavel
to
you
and
I'll
do
my.
D
D
A
Great
welcome
senator
spearman,
we're
happy
to
see
you
for
lots
of
reasons.
So,
when
you're
ready,
please
go
ahead
and
I'll
open
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
297.
L
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
good
part
about
being
virtual
is
instead
of
sliding
around
the
halls
trying
to
get
from
one
room
to
the
other.
It's
a
matter
of
disconnecting
from
one
meeting
and
clicking
on
a
link
so.
D
L
So
you
know
I
was
in
growth
and
infrastructure,
and
I
thought
I
was
third,
so
please
forgive
my
tardiness
good
afternoon
sheridan,
loop
and
committee
members.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
senate
bill
297
for
the
record.
I
am
pat
spearman.
I
represent
senate
district
one
in
clark
county
before
I
explain
the
content
of
senate
bill
297.
I
would
like
to
give
you
some
background
information
as
to
why
I
requested
this
important
legislation.
L
Food
insecurity
is
a
devastating
challenge
for
our
communities
of
color
and
low
wealth
families.
Community
gardens
are
a
tremendous
tool
to
help
combat
food
deserts
and
food
and
security,
as
well
as
urban
blight.
One
of
the
most
significant
obstacles
for
potential
community
gardens
or
urban
farm
projects
is
access
to
land
senate
bill.
L
297
provides
an
opportunity
for
community
groups
and
municipalities
to
collaborate
and
turn
neglected
or
blighted
lots
in
nevada
into
productive
community
gardens,
and
madam
sharon
committee
members,
I'm
speaking
specifically,
and
I
think
all
of
us
have
seen
it
those
vacant
lots
that
only
grow
cigarette
butts,
broken
bottles
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
that's
part
of
the
blighted
lights
that
we're
talking
about
community
gardens
and
urban
farms
are
transformative
ways
to
provide
communities,
access
to
healthy
and
affordable
food
and
encourage
participation
in
outdoor
activities
and
the
adoption
of
healthier
eating
habits.
L
I
know
for
the
last
four
sessions
five
sessions.
Four
sessions-
senator
woodhouse
brought
a
bill.
It
was
senate
bill
last
session.
It
was
senate,
bill
178
and
it
was
a
bill
that
was
excuse
me
designed
to
create
a
task
force
to
examine
food
and
security.
We
also
know
that
last
session
then
assemblyman.
Now,
commissioner,
william
mccurdy
bought
a
bill
as
well.
It
was
ab326
that
was
designed
to
provide
incentives
for
retail
stores
to
relocate
into
communities
that
were
that
were
held
that
had
food
deserts
in
them.
L
So
those
two
things,
one
of
them
happened
almost
and
the
other
one
senator
curtis
bill
still
has
not
taken
on,
and
we
know
that
this
has
been
going
on
for
a
very
long
time.
Food
deserts
is
not
anything
that
is
surprising
to
anyone.
L
But
we're
talking
about
providing
people
an
opportunity
to
have
fresh
fruits
and
vegetables
if
it
pleases
the
chair,
I
will
now
walk
walk
the
committee
through
the
sections
of
the
bill
section,
one
on
page
six
of
the
bill
adds
the
requirement
that
a
city
or
county
master
plan
include,
in
its
urban
agricultural
element,
a
plan
to
inventory
other
real
property
to
determine
suitability
for
urban
farming
and
gardening
and
the
other
urban
property
that
I'm
speaking
of
is.
I
know
in
many
cities
to
include
those
in
the
washoe
and
clark
county.
L
There
are
abandoned
big
box
stores
and
nothing's
happening
with
it
except
graffiti.
Maybe
some
broken
windows
again.
You
know
it's
growing
cigarette
butts
and
broken
bottles,
etc.
So
that's
some
of
the
some
of
the
real
other
real
property
that
we're
talking
about
and
madam
chair
before
I
go
any
further.
Let
me
say
this:
there
are
some
things
in
the
bill
that
will
be
amended
out.
I
had
a
meeting
with.
I
had
a
meeting
with
some
of
the
members,
some
people
representing
the
counties
and
some
municipalities,
and
we
talked
about.
L
We
talked
about
an
amendment.
Unfortunately,
we
didn't
have
time
to
get
it
done
before
this
meeting,
but
we
will
have
have
amendments
to
this
section.
2
on
page
7
of
the
bill
requires
the
council
on
food
security
to
research
and
develop
recommendations
on
community
gardens
and
urban
farms,
which
must
include
examinations
of
local
and
regional
efforts
to
develop
community
gardens
and
urban
farms.
L
Regulatory
and
policy
barriers
to
the
development
of
community
gardens
and
urban
farms
and
the
potential
effects
of
community
gardens
and
urban
farms
on
economic
development
in
the
state
and
make
recommendations
to
promote
the
use
of
community
gardens
and
urban
farms,
strengthen
local
infrastructure
for
community
gardens
and
urban
farms,
promote
entrepreneurial
efforts
to
develop
community
gardens
and
urban
farms.
In
section
three
of
the
bill
authorizes
a
board
of
county
commissioners
to
approve
a
property
tax
credit
equal
to
ten
percent
of
the
property
taxes
on
a
parcel.
L
If
the
owner
intends
to
allow
the
property
to
be
used
as
a
community
garden
or
urban
farm
and
agrees
to
the
operation
of
the
community
garden
or
urban
farm
for
at
least
five
years,
sections.
Four
and
five
authorize
a
city
or
county
to
use
vacant
blighted
land
or
other
real
property
owned
by
them
for
urban
farms,
as
well
as
community
gardens
sections.
Six.
Seven
and
eight
include
provisions
authorizing
the
state
land
registrar
to
lease
state
lands
at
less
than
fair
market
value
for
use
as
community
gardens
and
urban
farms.
L
Sections
9
and
10
authorize
the
director
of
the
department
of
transportation
to
lease
certain
unused
property
for
use
as
a
community
garden
and
urban
farms
for
only
one
dollar
per
year.
We
have
several
people
on
the
line.
Madam
chair,
that
I
would
like
to
help
me
with
this
presentation.
I
believe
we
have
kelly
kelly
on
the
line
and
if
she
can,
if
it's
okay
with
you,
madam
sheriff,
she
can
begin
her.
Testimony.
I'd
appreciate
that.
A
Absolutely,
let's
go
ahead
with
that.
L
Yes,
I
have
kelly
kelly
and
rebecca
and
there
are
a
couple
of
other
people
from
cara
freeman
from
the
dietitians
corporate.
So
I
see
cara,
freeman,
okay,
let
care
let
kara
go
first.
Then,
okay,.
B
B
B
Health
risks
are
extremely
high
in
this
population,
including
risk
of
cardiovascular
disease,
diabetes
and
hypertension.
Low-Income
underserved
communities
are
the
highest
risk
for
developing
obesity.
The
lack
of
supermarkets
and
or
the
prohibitive
cost
of
purchasing
purchasing
fresh
food
is
a
compounding
problem.
B
To
support
what
senator
spearman
said,
community
gardens
have
been
shown
to
improve
access
to
healthy
food
by
encouraging
communities
to
grow
their
own
fruits
and
vegetables.
Civic
participation
is
a
social
determinant
of
health,
as
outlined
in
healthy
people.
2030
and
community
gardening
is
provided
as
an
example,
specific
example
of
civic
participation.
B
Green
space
adds
property
value
to
neighborhoods
by
beautifying
the
spaces
and
individuals
who
are
involved
in
community
gardening
may
form
a
sense
of
neighborhood
pride
experience,
an
increased
appreciation
for
their
neighborhood
and
be
more
motivated
to
get
involved
in
community
life.
Community
gardens
also
increase
access
to
healthy
foods.
The
california,
healthy
cities
and
projects
found
that
west
hollywood
students
with
school
community
gardens
increase
their
fruit
and
vegetable
consumption
by
10
percent,
which
is
a
significant
amount.
B
We've
also
seen
that
children
who
have
grown
vegetables
in
school-based
gardens
tend
to
try
the
food
they
grow
and
often
they
take
that
food
home
and
show
their
parents
how
to
how
to
program
it
as
well
as
the
past
college
instructor.
I
was
always
amazed,
even
though
I
probably
shouldn't
have
been
by
the
number
of
foods
who
thought
that
food
comes
from
mcdonald's.
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'm
sure
senator
spearman.
M
M
We
operate
a
variety
of
programs,
everything
from
farm
education,
regenerative
agriculture,
food
security,
nutrition,
education,
and
we
all
do
this
from
our
five-acre
urban
farm
in
west
reno.
I
was
asked
to
present
today
in
support
of
senate
bill
297,
I'm
very
happy
to
do
this.
This
is
something
that's
very
passionate
for
me.
M
Preserving
urban,
open
and
agricultural
spaces
is
something
that
I
spent
the
majority
of
my
adult
life.
Doing
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
I'd
like
to
spend
my
few
minutes
today
here
talking
about
a
few
urban
ag
projects
that
I've
spearheaded
here
in
reno,
to
illustrate
the
importance
of
this
bill.
So
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
right.
M
M
All
right
this
first
project,
I
want
to
show
you
you
here-
is
lost
city
farm,
it's
a
farm
that
I
started
in
downtown
reno
and
a
friend
and
I
in
2012
we
decided
to
start
this
urban
farm.
Our
first
step
was
to
ride
our
bikes
around
downtown
reno,
looking
for
a
suitable
property
for
our
farm.
M
Our
stipulations
were
that
the
property
needed
to
be
at
least
a
half
an
acre
needed
to
be
in
a
food
desert,
walkable
and
bikeable
on
a
bus
line,
so
everybody
could
access
it
and
not
majorly
contaminated
as
some
urban
properties
are.
This
is
a
property
like
senator
spearman
was
talking
about.
It
was
growing
plenty
of
cigarette
butts
hypodermic
needles.
Whatever
you
could
imagine,
was
there
at
that
time.
M
In
2012
we
found
10
suitable
properties,
they
were
all
privately
owned
and
we
approached
the
land
owners
about
the
project
and
just
as
a
side
note
today,
all
10
of
those
properties
that
we
identified
as
being
a
really
great
urban
farm.
They
have
all
been
developed
at
this
point
and
not
only
developed.
They
have
been
crammed
with
multi-story
multi-unit
residences.
M
None
of
the
development
have
worked
to
address
the
fact
that
these
are
urban
food
deserts
and
cramming
more
people
has
just
compound
pounded
the
problem
of
food
insecurity
in
these
areas.
So
if
we
don't
do
something
now
to
protect
open
space
in
urban
areas,
it
will
all
be
gone
and
food
insecurity
will
just
get
worse.
M
So
we
ended
up.
We
ended
up
finding
this
property
here
last
city
farm,
it's
right,
downtown
right
by
the
library
in
reno,
and
we
had
that
property
there
for
three
years
and
when
we
first
leased
that
property,
the
property
values
were
very
low
in
this
neighborhood.
M
M
M
M
M
M
Small
groups,
like
reno
food
systems,
were
six
people
trying
to
make
this
big
project
happen
in
unknown
waters
and
with
lost
city
farm.
I
ended
up
writing
the
city's
first
and
only
urban
ag
ordinance
to
allow
for
a
farm
in
a
multi-use
zone.
This
didn't
exist
before
and
it
was
necessary
in
order
for
us
to
do
the
project,
but
there
was
no
history
for
it.
So
the
city
planners
didn't
know
how
to
do
this,
so
I
ended
up.
Writing
it
and
the
city
adopted
it
and
the
same
with
reno
food
systems.
We
scoured
public
parks.
M
So
what
this
bill
is
doing,
it's
proposing
to
have
a
system
in
place
that
does
a
lot
of
that
heavy
lifting
and
it
would
cut
down
a
ton
of
the
barriers
to
entry
and
make
creating
community
food
projects
much
much
more
accessible,
much
easier
for
for
people
to
approach
and
for
people
to
be
successful
with
as
a
person,
who's
navigated.
These
really
tricky
waters,
seeing
something
like
this
is
really
encouraging
and
would
make
such
a
difference
to
to
this.
These
kind
of
projects.
A
L
Go
ahead,
yeah
and
I
was
just
going
to
say
for
those
who
are
familiar
with
las
vegas,
we
have
a
community
garden
there.
It's
operated
by
a
lady
by
the
name
of
roz
and
she's,
had
it
there.
I
want
to
say,
for
maybe
eight
or
nine
years,
a
great
way
to
not
only
grow
food,
but
also
to
teach,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
looking
at
as
we
develop
this
legislation
opportunities
to
teach
students
about
agriculture.
You
know
we've
lost
a
lot
in
in
our
society.
L
Now
we
kind
of
walked
away
from
farming
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
this
is
a
really
good
opportunity
to
get
them
interested
in
it
again,
and
I
just
want
to
comment
on
something
that
that
lindsay
said
turning
what
could
be
a
really
good
garden
into
a
multi-million
dollar
or
multi-hundred
thousand
dollar
development
in
many
other
communities
of
color
there
there
are
blocks
of
neighborhoods
that
have
suffered
benign
neglect
over
several
decades
and
the
property
values
go
down
so
low
that
eventually,
someone
who
is
a
developer,
can
come
in
and
buy
the
property
very
cheaply.
L
Unfortunately,
what
also
happens
at
that
time
is
that
people
who
have
lived
there
all
of
their
lives
and
some
people
whose
homes
have
been
in
their
family
for
four
generations
called
gentrification,
because
they
will
build
something
that
someone
who
is
making
upwards
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
can
afford.
But
the
people
who
have
lived
in
that
area
for
all
that
time
cannot
afford
and
I've
seen
this
happen
in
city
after
city
after
city.
So
this
is
another
way
for
us
to
do
that.
L
I
want
to
comment
just
a
little
bit
and
then
I'll
open
up
for
questions
during
this
pandemic.
I,
like
I
know
most
of
you
probably
saw
that
food
banks
were
overwhelmed
lines
and
lines
of
cars.
I
have
a
friend
of
mine,
who's,
a
city
council
member
in
houston,
and
she
was
saying
the
need
was
greater
than
the
resources
and
they
were
looking
around
at
ways
to
kind
of
stretch
what
they
have
food
banks
are
good
and
they
serve
a
good
purpose.
L
Unfortunately,
many
of
them
do
not
have
enough
of
the
fresh
fruits
and
vegetables
to
go
around
to
the
people
who
need
to
have
this
as
part
of
their
diet,
and
so
the
urban
farm
and
the
community
gardens
provides
another
way
for
us
to
assist
a
community
organization.
That's
trying
to
help
people
with
food
insecurity,
and
so
with
that,
madam
chair,
I
will
stop
and
take
questions.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Senator
spearman
interesting
project
questions
from
the
committee
senator
hanson.
L
Yeah
well
before
I
forget,
let
me
let
me
just
say
this:
I've
got
two
notes
here
that
so
the
city
of
las
vegas
has
already
started
on
an
urban
farm,
and
I
did
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
with
one
of
our
former
colleagues,
commissioner
mccurdy
and
he's
ecstatic.
He
couldn't
come
to
testify
because
he
had
a
previous
commitment,
but
I
think
that's,
I
think
those
two
things
speak
volumes
about
how
and
why
we
should
should
get
this
done.
H
Thank
you.
I
I,
the
bill
sounds
really
good.
Actually,
I'm
quite
intrigued
by
it
a
couple
of
questions
how
in
those
areas
where
you're
trying
to
do
it,
you
know
currently
your
cigarette
butts
and
broken
bottles
places.
How
do
you
protect
it
once
you
do
have
a
somebody
attempting
to
garden
there
and
question
two
you
mentioned
fruits:
are
there
any
efforts
to
actually
encourage
planting
of
trees
because
obviously,
trees
trees
are
where
you
get
fruit?
L
Yes,
sir,
madam
share
through
you
to
senator
hansen.
L
Yes,
there
are,
there
are
plans
to
do
that
when
we
talk
about
community
gardens
and
urban
farms,
we're
talking
about
everything
across
the
board,
whatever
we
can
get
done
on
those
lands
in
terms
of
encouraging
people-
and
this
is
one
of
the
areas
where
we're
going
to
excuse
me-
add
an
amendment
to
to
clarify
exactly
what
we
want
to
do,
someone
who
has
land
and
wants
to
say
well
I'll,
give
it
to
you
so
that
you
can
provide
you
can
do
an
urban
farm,
I'm
sorry
community
garden.
L
I
think
a
lot
of
us
know
that
many
times
when
people
we
give
people
a
rebate
or
a
tax
abatement
up
front
very
seldom
do
they
do
what
they
said
they
were
going
to
do,
and
so
part
of
the
legislation
includes
a
callback
provision
if
they
don't
say
what
they're
going
to
do,
then
whatever
abatements
that
they
got
within
that
period.
L
All
of
that
would
be
due
at
that
time
with
interest,
cities
and
counties
the
bill
also,
I
want
to
say
it
was
section
4.,
but
the
bill
also
gives
cities
and
counties
an
opportunity
to
create
zoning
that
accommodates
that.
So,
if
there's
another
way
to
do
it,
if
there
are
more
better
ways
to
do
it
or
something
we
can
add
to
that,
I'm
hoping
for
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it
that
it
works.
H
Well,
thank
you
senator.
I
agree
with
the
whole
concept.
I
especially
agree
with
the
idea
that
you
know,
as
we
become
increasingly
urbanized,
we're
really
completely
out
of
touch
with
where
food
comes
from.
You
know
whether
it's
animals
or
plants,
one
of
the
enjoyable
things
about
being
somewhat
of
a
of
a
rural
guy,
is,
I
still
get
a
lot
of
that
in
my
own
district,
but
there's
no
question
that
a
lot
of
folks
just
don't
realize
what
it
takes
to
get
all
that
food
that
they
see
in
that
in
the
supermarket.
A
F
You
so
I'll
work
backwards.
Well,
no,
I
won't
so
on
section
three
is
the
line
14
it's
in
section
32a,
it's
this!
The
10
percent,
the
property
tax
credit.
So
is
this
ten
percent
every
year
for
five
years.
F
F
L
So,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
senator
neil
and
that's
what
I
was
talking
about
with
respect
to
the
abatement,
whatever
the
government
or
the
city
or
county
decides
will
be
the
tax
abatement
for
that
term.
If
they
don't
do
what
they
said
they
were
going
to
do,
then
there
are
club
provisions
in
it,
but
this
is
something
that's
open
to
negotiation
through
the
city
or
the
county.
Whoever
is
going
to
sponsor
the
community
garden
or
the
urban
farm.
F
Okay
and
then,
madam
chair
follow-up,
so
I
know
you
you
mentioned
blight,
but
I
don't
see
what
I
you
know
in
the
chapters
you
have
244
and
268,
which
is
you
know,
city
county
county
city,
but
I
don't
see
like
an
rda
like
a
redevelopment
area,
and
so
is
this.
Is
this
going
to
be?
Is
this
going
to
create
a
tax
increment
district?
F
Is
that
is
that
the
idea,
because
typically
that's
the
way
that
that
a
county
or
a
city
can
can,
I
guess,
you
would
say,
create
a
tax
incentive
within
that
boundary
and
then
it
kind
of
it
whatever
revenue
from
it,
is
driven
from
that
space
and
from
those
boundaries.
But
I
just
trying
to
understand,
like
I
I
don't
know,
you're
working
on
amendments
with
them.
So
I
want
to
know
like
what
are
the
counties
and
cities
saying?
F
L
So,
thank
you
adam
shared
to
you
to
senator
neil
when
they
establish
the
ordinance
they
establish
how
they
want
to
do
that,
according
to
whatever
fits
them.
The
elements
of
the
of
this
bill
are
not
prescriptive.
From
the
standpoint
of
you
have
to
do
your
ordinance
just
like
this,
and
I
think
we
heard
lindsay-
and
you
can
correct
me
lindsey
if
I
got
it
wrong,
but
I
think
she
said
she
wrote
the
ordinance
for
the
city
of
reno.
L
One
of
the
things
that
we're
asking
cities
and
counties
to
do
is
to
set
aside
and
whenever
they're
talking
about
redevelopment
or
development
or
new
development
set
aside
some
space
in
that
project
for
a
community
garden
or
an
urban
farm,
so
how
they,
how
they
do
it
within
their
ordinance,
is
strictly
up
to
them.
L
And
and
so,
and
we
did
it
like
that,
because
I
know
a
lot
of
times,
you
know
we,
we
put
things
into
law
and
it
doesn't
fit
everybody,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
I
said
when
I
met
with
with
him
earlier
today.
You
know
we
want
to
make
it
work
for
cities
and
counties,
because
if
it
doesn't,
then
it
won't
work
and
it
won't
do
us
any
good
to
pass
this
legislation,
so
we
want
to
make
it
we
want
to
make
it
work
for
them.
F
Yeah,
it's
I
I
like
the
idea,
I
know
what's
going
on
down
south,
and
I
know
that
it
fits
into
ab385,
which
was
a
former
assembly
of
a
mccurdy's
bill
to
try
to
do
urban
ag
and
I
do
think,
there's
a
provision
in
there
that
allows
you
to
work
with
a
cooperative
extension
which
I
know
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
like
really
round
up
on
that
and
really
connect
cooperative
extension
down
south
with
dr
lyles
with
the
urban
ag,
because
they're
literally
growing,
you
can
get
these
little.
F
I
I
it's
like.
They
call
them
like
little
micro
micro
greens
in
a
cup,
and
so
he's
he's
doing
a
lot
with
in
with
the
hydroponics
and
all
of
these
other
things
that
will
probably
come
into
play
when
you're
talking
about
you
know
having
a
kind
of
solar
run
area
and
trying
to
trying
to
grow
things
within
an
area
that
are,
you
know,
pretty
much
a
desert.
L
So
so,
thank
you
for
that
observation
and
you
are
correct.
I
know
for
at
least
three
sessions
in
this
body.
L
We've
talked
about
something
similar
to
this
or
some
way
to
have
create
food
security
for
low
wealth
communities
and
we've
passed
legislation
to
do
it,
but
we
don't
act
on
it,
and
so,
as
I
was
thinking
about
this,
there
were
several
people
that
I
wanted
to
talk
to,
and
I
did
talk
with
commissioner
mccurdy
what
he
put
in
place
with
385,
what
he
put
in
place
with
the
past
8326
and
what
senator
woodhouse
did
with
with
the
perennial
it
wasn't
178
all
the
time,
but
last
session
it
was
senate
bill
178.
L
All
of
those
are
good
ideas,
but
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we
flush
them
out
and
we
fulfill
the
intent,
we
have
to
have
some
type
of
a
structure,
and
this
is
the
structure
that
I
am
proposing.
Is
it
perfect?
No,
it's
not,
but
working
with
stakeholders.
We
can
make
it
that
way.
We
can
make
it
that
way.
F
So
just
really
quick
amount
of
chair
because
I
I
do
think
it's
possible
because
mccurdy's
bill
tied
in
goed
to
try
to
tie
incentives
to
areas
that
needed
assistance
or
his
food
idea.
And
so
I
don't
know
about
allowing
the
county
to
do
some
tax
incentives
which
you
have
in
in
section
four.
F
L
Yeah
and
so
we
have
counties
in
there
meeting
with
the
government
stakeholders
earlier
today,
those
who
represented
municipalities
wanted
to
have
their
own
economy
and
decide
for
themselves.
So
you
know
the
county
may
may
do
something
that
is
very
general
in
nature,
and
then
it
provides
opportunity
or
an
infrastructure,
illegal
infrastructure
for
the
towns
to
do
it.
I
think
that
this
is
the
start
of
something
that
will
be
being
not
only
now,
but
I
think
I
think
what
it's
going
to
do
for
members
of
these
of
these
communities.
L
It's
it's
part
of
economic
development
as
well,
and
so
all
I'm
trying
to
do
with
this
bill
is
to
look
at
the
things
that
we've
already
passed
and
say
they're
just
sitting
there.
We
haven't
done
anything
with
them,
and
so,
let's
try
to
let's
try
to
put
something
together
so
that
we
can
do
something
with
them.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
senator,
I'm
just
concerned,
I
mean
this
is
fine
and
I
I
really
appreciate
the
intention
and
and
the
good
it'll
do,
but
this
is
gonna
cost
money.
What's
the
fiscal
note
here
beyond
it's
fine
for
the
county
to
give
somebody
a
10
percent
break
on
the
property
tax
if
they
make
the
land
available?
But
you
know
it's
a
long
ways
from
having,
like
you
said
that
that
lot
covered
with
glass
and
cigarette
butts
to
actually
having
in
production
and
where
are
those
dollars
going
to
come
from.
L
Thank
you,
madam
sheriff.
Through
you
to
senator
gokuchi,
those
down
will
come
when
the
cities
or
the
counties
put
in
place
their
ordinances.
That
will
provide
the
legal
structure
for
this.
This
has
not
been
jumping
up
and
saying
we're
going
to
do
this
right
now,
if
they
can't
afford
to
do
it
this
year,
there's
no
requirement
for
them
to
do
it
this
year.
What
I
said
to
them
was
we
want
to
make
it
work,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
something
that
will
not
leave
you
fiscally
bankrupt.
L
So
there's
no
fiscal
note,
because
there's
no
requirement
to
do
it
at
a
certain
time.
We
want
them
to
decide
when
they
can
do
it,
how
long
they
can
do
it
when
it
will
start
etc.
All
of
those
things.
So
that's
really
up
to
the
to
the
level
of
government
that
decides
to
put
that
in
their
ordinance.
N
Thank
you,
chair
and
senator
spearman.
Thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
this
bill.
I
think
all
any
of
us
have
to
do
is
just
harken
back
to
the
first
couple
months
of
the
pandemic
and
all
the
you
know,
all
our
scared
constituents
and
the
empty
shelves
at
stores
and
think
how
wonderful
it
would
be
if
there
was
more
urban
agriculture
and
more
local,
locally
available
produce,
and
vegetables
and
fruits
for
people
to
have
other
options,
and
not
just
at
at
those
grocery
stores,
so
that
it's
ever
been.
Something
like
this
happens
again.
N
There'd
be
more
options.
If
this
bill
passes,
what
do
you?
How
do
you
think?
How
do
you
see
this
being
kind
of
you
know
communicated
to
people
to
try
to
participate?
Do
you
think
there
might
be
organizations
that
would
get
active
with
this
to
try
to
get
people
involved
in
this?
I
just
wonder
what
your
your
thoughts
are
on,
that
senator.
L
Yes,
sir,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
senator
orrinshaw-
and
we
discussed
that
in
our
stakeholders
meeting
and
there
are-
there
are
people
in
the
north
and
people
in
the
south
who
are
familiar
with
this
concept
and
indeed
have
done
some
of
it,
and
I
think
senator
neil
mentioned
someone
down
south,
and
so
getting
the
word
out
is,
is
a
consequence
of
me.
You,
the
nonprofits
that
will
be
a
part
of
this
community
organizations
to
let
people
know
if
they
want
to
use.
L
You
know
raise
money
for
marketing,
that's
okay,
but
I
I
really
envisioned
this
as
being
a
word
of
mouth,
and
I
know
that
once
we
get
started
the
very
first
one
that
happens,
and
I
know
we
have
roz
in
the
south
and
there
there
is
another.
I
want
to
say
it
might
be
two
community
gardens
up
here
in
the
reno
area,
but
the
very
first
one
that
gets
started
after
this
bill.
L
I
believe
that
the
news
is
going
to
take
off
like
wildfire,
so
so
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
do
this
as
as
judiciously
as
possible,
but
we
also
are
mindful
that
we
don't
want
to
get
attached
to
too
much
fiscal
responsibility
that
answers
your
question.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Any
additional
questions.
A
Well,
mine
were
asked
so
senator
spearman.
I
think
everything
that
I
was
thinking
about
was
asked
the
ones
up
in
reno
that
we
saw
the
pictures
of
were
really
amazing,
gardens
and
really
an
interesting
project
for
empty
land.
So
with
that
senator
spearman,
do
you
have
anybody
else,
or
would
you
like
to
go
to
support.
A
We
will
well
first
before
we
go
right
into
support.
I
know
that
mr
donahue
has
been
on
the
line
with
us
and
he
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
give
his
testimony
and
then
we'll.
Let
him
go
so.
Mr
donahue,
please
go
ahead.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
again
for
the
record,
charlie
donahue.
I
serve
as
a
state
land
registrar.
My
comments
have
to
do
specifically
with
section
six.
G
I
do
have
some
questions
about
why
the
bill
sponsor
proposed
to
have
this
in
chapter
321,
because
I
believe
it
would
be
more
appropriate
to
be
in
322,
which
is
the
use
of
state
land
and
within
322,
there's,
actually
even
a
provision
322.065
that
addresses
for
nonprofits
and
educational
institutions
that
may
be
involved
with
the
senator's
testimony
in
the
use
of
lands
for
community
gardens
or
urban
agriculture.
G
There's
a
provision
in
that
statute
to
have
those
lands
used
at
less
than
fair
market
value.
So
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
work
with
the
senator
on
on
an
amendment
to
possibly
roll
that
concept
into
that
provision
of
statute.
G
One
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
make
perfectly
clear,
though,
is,
is
that
within
that
statute,
when
it
says
less
than
fair
market
value-
and
I
feel
it's
important
to
get
on
the
record-
it
doesn't
equate
to
no
cost,
because
that's
often
what
I
am
asked
to
basically
give
it
for
zero
or
a
dollar
and
and
and
I'd
really
like
to
work
with
the
senator
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
some
language
that
might
fit
within
that
portion
of
statute,
and
then
I
I
had
hoped
to
have
a
a
pre-meeting
with
her,
because
I'm
curious
as
to
what
lands.
G
If
she's
looked
at
the
state
land
portfolio
and
what
land
she
may
have
identified,
whether
it's
up
north
or
or
up
north
or
down
south,
or
even
in
the
rurals,
the
lands
that
might
have
been
identified
by
the
organ
by
the
organizations
that
she's
looking
at.
So
we
can
get
a
little
bit
ahead
of
the
game,
and
I
also
like
to
have
a
conversation
with
her
about
the
provisions
where
it
says
businesses
in
section
six
as
well.
Those
are
my
neutral
comments
and
I
really
appreciate
the
time.
L
Yes,
ma'am
through
you,
madam
chair
to
mr
donahue,
one
was
chosen
by
our
legal
department.
I
will
certainly
take
back
the
suggestion
that
it
may
be
more
appropriate
in
33
322.
I
will
admit
to
you
that
I
don't
know
that
much
about
the
law
to
say
this
chapter
or
that
chapter.
So
I
will
certainly
take
your
comments
back.
Have
we
already
identified
land?
L
L
L
As
far
as
I
think
the
other
one
was
no
cost
yeah.
We
know
it.
There
is
some
cost.
So
it's
not
free
did
I
answer
all
your
questions
or
and
surely
you
can?
You
can
set
up
a
time
to
to
to
talk
with
me
because
our
deadline
is
friday.
L
G
Yes,
I
do
and
I'm
madam
chair,
thank
you
very
much,
charlie
donahue,
for
the
record.
I
I
wasn't
expecting
responses
to
my
comments,
so
I
appreciate
that
senator
spearman
and
I
again
we
will
try
and
draft
something
up
here
for
your
review
and
continue
to
work
with
you
on
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
again,
mr
donahue
teamwork.
Thank
you.
Okay.
We
will
go
to
support
broadcasting
when
you're.
I
O
O
The
southern
nevada
food
council
supports
senate
bill
297.
Revising
provisions
relating
to
agriculture.
The
southern
nevada
food
council
seeks
to
secure
equitable
access
to
healthy
food
for
all
southern
nevadans.
The
mission
of
the
council
is
to
ensure
the
local
food
system
is
both
equitable
and
sustainable.
Through
championing
policy
efforts
in
the
region,
the
council
meets
regularly
to
collaborate
on
ways.
The
group's
collective
resources
and
expertise
can
be
leveraged
to
increase
food
access
for
all
residents.
O
O
O
It
would
also
help
reinforce
learning
and
positive
behaviors
associated
with
school
gardens
among
students
by
encouraging
a
linkage
between
surrounding
school
gardens
and
the
community
garden
increasing
opportunities
to
build
food
literacy.
The
council
appreciates
the
consideration
of
local
resident
needs
and
desires,
and
the
emphasis
on
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
that
is
included
in
the
bill.
Language,
community,
food
gardens
and
urban
farms
are
a
recognized
intervention
that
can
help
improve
healthy
food
access
and
opportunities
to
build
community
food
literacy.
Among
many
other
positive
outcomes
in
a
food
desert.
I
D
Rebecca
stetson
for
the
record,
a
h,
r-e-b-e-k-a-h-s,
t
e
t
s
o
n,
madam
chair
and
council.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
in
favor
of
this
bill.
I
serve
on
the
governor's
council
for
food
security
and
am
here
today
representing
formerly
a
non-profit.
I
run
that
supports
and
runs
community
gardens,
and
also
the
northern
nevada
food
security
council
that
I'm
a
founding
member
of.
I
am
thankful
that
that
experiment
brought
this
forward
and
in
reno
we
have
multiple
community
gardens.
D
More
urban
gardens,
there's
an
incredible
capacity
at
community
health
that
goes
with
it,
and
it's
been
beautiful
to
watch
lives,
change
with
kids
learning
how
to
grow
their
own
food
and
getting
adults
involved
in
tending
the
soil
and
being
able
to
teach
them
how
to
do
that,
but
then
also
to
teach
them
how
to
cook
it
and
prepare
them.
Prepare
it
for
themselves,
so
we
are
in
support
of
this
bill
and
thank
you
for
your.
I
I
A
Thank
you
very
much,
then
we'll
go
to
opposition.
I
J
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
dagny
stapleton,
d-a-g-n-y
s-t-a-p-l-e,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
naco,
the
nevada
association
of
counties,
and
I
want
to
start
by
thanking
the
senator
very
much
for
her
willingness
to
meet
with
us.
Today.
We
reached
out
to
her
about
some
suggestions.
J
We
have
regarding
the
tax
credit
piece
of
the
bill
section
three
and
we
work
with
the
county
treasurers
on
some
conceptual
language
to
ensure
that
that
portion
of
the
bill
can
be
carried
out,
how
the
senator
is
envisioning-
and
I
know
that
there's
representative
of
the
county,
treasurer's
association,
I
believe
who
will
provide
testimony
on
some
of
those
details
and
how
we
can
help
there.
We
do
appreciate
the
goals
that
the
senator
is
trying
to
meet
here,
as
well
as
her
intent,
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
her.
J
J
Finally,
I
just
want
to
add
that
we
appreciate
senator
neil's
mention
of
cooperative
extension,
which
is
the
university
program,
but
funded
in
large
part
by
counties
in
a
program
that
counties
care
about
very
much
and
absolutely
extensions.
I
D
Good
evening,
chair
and
committee,
jamie
rodriguez,
that's.
D
D
I
am
here
neutral
today,
as
we
continue
to
work
with
her
and
the
treasurers,
as
stated
by
miss
stapleton,
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
enact
and
implement
the
program
as
she
is
envisioning
it.
So
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
her
appreciate
her
taking
the
time
today
and
look
forward
to
moving
this
on.
Thank
you.
I
E
R
r
y
a
humboldt
county
treasurer,
but
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
association
of
the
county,
treasurers
of
nevada,
we
are
neutral
on
this
bill
and
want
to
thank
senator
spearman
for
meeting
with
us
today.
The
provisions
of
sb297
may
have
an
impact
on
property
taxes
for
participating
parcels,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
her
and
her
team
to
clarify
the
mechanisms
needed
to
efficiently
carry
out
these
provisions.
I
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record
kelly
crompton
representing
the
city
of
las
vegas.
It's
k-e-l-l-y
c-r-o-m-p-t-o-n,
I'm
testifying
in
the
neutral
position
today
due
to
some
technical
revision.
We
are
working
on
with
the
bill
sponsor
related
to
the
implementation
of
sb
297.
J
The
city
of
las
vegas
is
supportive
of
the
concept
of
sb297
and
has
done
extensive
work
on
urban
agriculture
working
closely
with
the
southern
nevada,
food
council,
university
of
nevada,
cooperative
extension
and
other
local
regional
stakeholders
on
community
gardens.
There
is
effort
and
support
to
promote
equity,
improve
healthy
food
access
and
remove
food
deserts
located
in
downtown
las
vegas,
such
as
those
we've
seen
in
the
historic
west
side.
J
We
support
this
measure
as
we
believe
we
are
supportive
of
the
measure
as
we
believe
it
can
address
the
challenges
of
food
and
security,
healthy
foods
and
local
economic
growth,
to
the
extent
that
there
are
publicly
owned
assets
that
can
be
provided
to
entities
actively
working
to
address
food
and
security,
access
to
healthy
foods
and
disinvestment
in
underserved
communities.
We
should
take
every
opportunity
to
make
those
assets
available.
J
We
do
believe
the
implementation
decision
should
be
made
at
the
local
jurisdiction
level
and
not
at
other
levels
of
government,
and
that's
why
we
are
working
with
each
sponsor
of
the
bill
to
amend
some
of
the
language.
As
she
stated,
we
thank
senator
spearman
for
meeting
with
us
today
to
discuss
our
concerns
and
look
forward
to
working
with
her
in
the
amendment
process
so
that
we
can
get
to
a
support
position
on
this
bill.
Thank
you.
I
J
Send
care
and
members
of
the
committee
callie
wilson
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
reno,
that's
c-a-l-l-I,
w-I-l-s-m-sam
e-y.
We
appreciate
senator
spearman
meeting
with
local
governments
earlier
today,
as
several
of
my
fellow
colleagues
have
already
mentioned,
and
considering
the
conceptual
amendment
that
was
submitted
as
as
a
part
of
our
recently
updated
development
code.
J
The
city
of
reno
allows
for
urban
farms
in
every
zoning
district
and
has
numerous
supporting
master
plan
policies
in
place
that
promote
integration
of
community
gardens
in
our
neighborhoods
and
aim
to
increase
the
availability
of
and
access
to
fresh,
healthy
and
local
food.
We
support
the
bill,
sponsor's
intent
and
goal
in
this
legislation,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
her
on
the
technical
language
related
to
implementation.
I
I
L
You
know
just
real
quickly,
you
know,
I
really
the
comments
that
everyone
has
made
and
for
those
of
you
who
I
met
with
earlier
today.
I've
already
talked
with
our
legal
counsel
and
she
will
be
contacting
you
so
that
we
can
go
through
the
amendments.
The
conceptual
amendments
that
were
presented
and
make
sure
that
we
have
everything
right.
L
The
city
of
d.c
and
the
city
of
pittsburgh
have
something
much
like
this,
and
I
know
if
they
can
do
it,
we
can
do
it
as
well
all
of
the
ideas
that
have
come
forth
today.
I
welcome
welcome,
welcome
your
help.
I
may
have
the
idea
I
may
have
this
idea,
but
I
don't
have
all
of
this
idea,
and
so
collaboration
will
certainly
be
be
crucial.
I
just
want
to
say
also-
and
I
want
to
comment
on
what
senator
hansen
said.
L
Last
my
sister
has
this
big
container
that
she
bought
and
it's
got
dirt
and
plants
and
things
in
it
and
she's
she's
grown
some
peppers,
and
one
of
my
nieces
gabby
had
two
of
the
sections
where
she
put
her
seeds
and
when
the
peppers
came
up
and
she
was
able
to
eat,
she
loves
hot
stuff
and
she
was
able
to
put
it
in
her
food.
You
know
she
was
telling
me
I'm
pat
this.
I
grew
this.
L
I
grew
this
and
so
I
I
really
think
that
that
we
can
look
forward
to
more
of
the
responses
that
gabby
gave
from
children
who
are
discovering
afresh
what
it
means
to
get
back
into
agriculture
to
get
back
into
the
earth
to
understand
exactly
how
things
are
made
or
grown
and
also
make
sure
that
they
have
nutritional
food.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
hearing
this
and
we'll
get
it
together
and
hopefully
have
something
ready
for
a
few
work
session
work
session
that
we
hope
to
have
it
done
before
then.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
senator
spearman,
and
with
that
I'll
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
297,
I
think
we
have
everybody
here
right
this
minute
before
somebody
else
has
to
leave
to
go
to
another
meeting,
I'd
like
to
do
work
session
before
we
do
the
last
bill.
A
Great
perfect,
all
right?
We
have
all
accounted
for
okay,
we're
going
to
jump
to
work
session.
So
when
we
get
there
I'll
ask
ms
keller
to
walk
us
through.
Please
go
ahead
when
you're
ready.
P
Thank
you,
chair
alisa
keller
committee
policy.
Analyst,
the
work
session
document
for
the
bills
for
consideration
today
are
available
are
available
on
nellis
and
the
first
bill
for
the
committee's
consideration
is
senate.
Bill
110
revises
provisions
relating
to
businesses
engaged
in
the
development
of
emerging
technologies.
P
This
bill
is
sponsored
by
senator
spearman,
who
was
heard
by
this
committee
on
april
5th
senate
bill
110,
creates
the
emerging
technologies
task
force
within
the
department
of
business
and
industry
and
prescribes
its
membership.
The
bill
requires
the
task
force
to
develop
strategies
and
make
recommendations
regarding
attracting
businesses
that
are
engaged
in
developing
or
emerging
technologies
and
encouraging
the
growth
of
such
businesses.
P
A
Thank
you
very
very
much.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
committee.
C
P
D
A
Additional
questions,
senator
gilcochia
and
then
senator
hanson.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
again,
if
this
is
going
to
be
referred
to
finance,
I
can
vote
yes
for
it.
Otherwise
I
am
concerned
about
it
and
will
be
voting.
No.
I
guess
the
promotion
is
so
men
do
pass
and
refer
to
finance,
I'm
I
can
vote
for
it.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
sir.
I
I
cannot
give
you
that
100
right
this
minute,
but
I
understand
your
reservations,
senator
hansen,
please.
H
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I
normally
comment
after
we've
done
the
actual
attempt
to
get
this
thing
rolling
but
might
as
well
say
it
now,
I'm
a
no.
I
think
the
very
fact
that
they
talk
about
blockchain
in
it
shows
that
this,
in
my
mind,
is
a
taxpayer-funded
government
subsidy
for
a
billionaire,
and
I
think,
that's
wrong.
H
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions,
senator
or
advice
chair
and
shall
please.
N
Thank
you,
chair,
donderloop,
not
a
question,
but
if
you
accept
a
motion,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
just
to
make
a
new
pass.
A
N
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Seeing
no
more
discussion
will
you
please
take
the
roll
call.
N
I
I
A
Thank
you
very
much
with
that.
The
motion
carries
and
I'll
sign
the
floor
statement
to
senator
spearman.
Ms
keller,
will
you
three
please
walk
us
through
the
next.
P
Bill,
thank
you.
Alisa
keller
committee
policy,
analyst.
The
next
bill
for
consideration
is
senate
bill
138
revises
provisions
relating
to
planned
development
and
sponsored
by
senators,
lang
and
pickard,
and
others
was
heard
by
this
committee
on
march
17th
senate
bill
138
provides
that
a
city
or
county
is
not
prohibited
from
enacting
an
ordinance
for
a
plan
due
to
development
that
is
consistent
with
the
general
statutory
requirements
related
to
planning
and
zoning.
P
P
A
I
think
that
that
is
important,
ms
keller,
and
if
you
would
walk
through
the
amendment
and
then
I'm
sure
vice
chair
orange,
all
and
myself
and
others
may
have
some
questions.
P
Okay,
in
section
two,
it
removes
changes
to
nrs
278,
a
.080
in
section
three
requires
that
an
ordinance
set
forth
procedures
by
which
a
city
or
county
will
review
a
process
for
an
application
to
modify,
remove
or
release
any
provision
of
the
plan
in
compliance
with
nrs
278a
0.410,
section
4
retains
and
inserts
language
to
provide
that
if
the
ordinance
requires
both
tentative
and
final
approval
of
the
plan,
the
reservation
must,
as
far
as
practicable,
defer
the
precise
location
of
the
common
open
space
until
an
application
for
final
approval
is
filed,
so
that
flexibility
of
development,
which,
which
is
a
prime
objective
of
this
chapter,
can
be
maintained
in
sections
five
and
six.
P
The
amendment
replaces
may,
with
must
regarding
several
standards
for
planned
unit
development
established
by
ordinance
in
sections,
10
and
11
adds.
Finally,
regarding
an
approved
plan
in
section,
13
provides
that,
upon
application
of
a
landowner
to
modify,
remove
or
release
the
provisions
of
a
plan
that
does
not
include
any
residential
development
and
is
not
modified
to
add
any
residential
development.
P
A
city
or
county
may
approve
the
modification
removal
or
release
without
a
public
hearing.
If
the
city
or
county
determines
that
such
modification,
removal
or
release
is
minor
in
nature,
as
defined
by
the
ordinance
and
does
not
necessitate
a
vacation
or
abandonment
of
any
street
public
sidewalk,
pedestrian,
right-of-way
or
drainage
easement
in
section
14,
the
amendment
provides
that
if
the
ordinance
requires
both
tentative
and
final
approval,
the
city
or
county
shall
comply
with
the
procedures
set
forth
in
this
chapter
for
granting
tentative
approval
and
final
administrative
approval
of
the
plan.
P
Over
a
period
of
years,
applications
for
approval
of
the
several
parts
have
not
been
filed
within
the
time
specified
in
the
minutes,
granting
tentative
approval
and
provides
that
prior
to
recreation
of
the
plan
or
prior
to
final
approval.
If
the
city
or
county
ordinance
requires
both
tentative
and
final
approvals,
approval
of
a
plan
may
be
revoked.
A
N
Thank
you
chair,
and
I
appreciate
senator
lang's
hard
work,
all
the
representatives
of
the
city
of
henderson
on
trying
to
bring
all
the
stakeholders
in.
I
guess
one
question:
I
have
the
new
language
in
section
13
the
changes
to
nrs278a
point
410,
the
the
proposed
new
language
and
the
amendment.
B
N
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
david
cherry
for
the
record
government
affairs
manager
for
the
city
of
henderson
and
I'm
joined
by
my
colleague,
michael
tassie,
who
is
the
director
of
community
development
and
services
for
the
city
of
henderson,
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
to
answer
questions
before
the
committee
today
on
sb
138,
and
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
do
so.
Regarding
vice
chair
or
shaw's
question.
N
We
believe
that
the
effect
of
the
language
in
section
13
serves
as
a
limitation
on
how
the
minor
modification
provision
could
be
used
if
a
city
or
county
chooses
to
enact
an
ordinance
that
would
allow
for
the
minor
modification
specifically
at
the
request
of
stakeholders.
There
were
two
limitations
that
were
put
in
there.
The
first
has
to
do
with
whether
or
not
there
would
be
a
proposed
minor
modification
if
a
plan
has
either
residential
development
or
proposes
to
add
residential
development
so,
for
instance,
new
housing.
N
N
N
A
sidewalk
or
two
other
categories
that
again
this
would
not
be
allowed
to
be
to
be
qualified
for
use
of
the
minor
modification
provision
that's
proposed
in
the
amendment,
so
we
feel
that
that
really
limits
how
the
how
the
amendment
would
apply
in
situations
where
you
have
residential
housing
or
in
situations
where
you
have
specific
actions
involving
a
vacation
or
abandonment
of
an
easement
or
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions
on
this
from
committee
members.
A
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
do
apologize.
That
was
my
choice
of
wording.
N
Would
invite
obviously
lcb
legal
or
or
your
counsel,
to
opine
on
this
also
I'd
be
happy
to
let
mr
cassie
speak
to
it.
He
is
also
somebody
who
deals
as
our
director
of
community
development,
frequently
with
nrs
278a
and
the
planned
unit.
N
If
you
want
to
give
your
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
more
information
on
this
question
to
answer
the
chair,
thank
you
and
for
the
record,
michael
tassie,.
G
And
thank
you
for
the
question
and
I
agree
with
what
david
said.
We're
confident
that
this
will
limit
the
minor
modification
procedure
to
primary
to
just
non-residential
development.
G
We
specifically
carved
out
those
two
areas
at
the
at
the
at
the
request
of
our
stakeholders
that
we
involved
in
this
discussion
and
and
wanted.
N
D
N
N
Left
out
residential,
it's
very
clear
in
the
wording
in
the
statute
and
that
section,
13
prohibition
and
the
same
when
it
comes
to
the
the
four
areas
that
are
specific
to
the
vacation
or
abandonment.
It's
street
public
sidewalk,
pedestrian,
right-of-way
or
drainage,
easements
and
those
are
clearly
spelled
out
in
the
amendment
language.
A
Okay,
questions
committee.
A
So
I
will
be
voting
yes,
but
I
will
reserve
my
right.
I
just
have
a
couple
other
questions
after
seeing
some
of
these
bullet
points
today,
but
I
will
take
a.
C
N
Madam
chair,
just
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
just
would
like
to
reserve
my
right
as
well.
I
just
you
know.
I
appreciate
all
the
hard
work,
henderson
and
and
senator
lang
have
done.
I
just
still
have
a
couple
questions,
but
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
just
to
reserve
my
right
for
the
floor.
A
Thank
you
very
much
all
right
with
that
with
the
secretary.
Please
take
a
roll
call
vote.
N
C
H
A
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
motion
passes
and
we'll
give
that
floor
statement
to
senator
hunt.
P
Lisa
keller
committee
policy
analyst,
the
next
bill
is
senate.
Bill
254
revises
provisions
relating
to
discrimination
in
housing,
sponsored
by
senator
neil
and
heard
by
this
committee
on
march
31st
senate
bill
254
revises
various
provisions
relating
to
discrimination
and
housing.
Specifically,
the
bill
establishes
new
procedures
and
requirements
with
respect
to
investigations
and
hearings
regarding
complaints
to
the
nevada,
equal
rights
commission,
alleging
an
unlawful,
discriminatory
practice
in
housing
and
revises
the
prohibitive
practices
that
constitute
an
are
not
unlawful,
discriminatory
practice
in
housing
in
nevada.
P
The
bill
prohibits,
with
certain
exceptions,
a
person
seeking
to
rent
or
lease
a
dwelling
from
inquiring
into
the
arrest
record,
conviction,
record
or
record
of
criminal
history
of
an
applicant
or
tenant,
refusing
to
rent
or
lease
to
an
applicant
on
the
basis
of
the
applicant's
arrest
record,
conviction,
record
a
record
of
criminal
history
and
making
or
publishing
any
notice
or
advertisement.
That
indicates
a
preference
based
on
the
arrest
conviction
or
criminal
history
record
of
the
applicant.
P
Three
amendments
have
been
proposed
for
the
measure
by
senator
neil
at
the
hearing.
Senator
neil
proposed
the
first
conceptual
amendment,
which
is
included
in
the
work
session
document
and
subsequent
to
the
hearing.
Senator
neil
proposed
to
delete
section
6
from
that
proposed
amendment
and
replace
it
with
the
following
language.
P
Source
of
income
is
money
or
other
benefits
from
any
federal
state
or
local
government
program
or
service
limited
to
federal
rental
assistance.
Funds
adopted
during
the
during
the
116th
or
117th
congress
received
by
the
tenant
during
the
covid19
pandemic,
disability
benefits
and
child
support,
and
the
prohibitions
in
this
chapter
against
discrimination
based
on
source
of
income
shall
not
limit
the
ability
of
any
person
to
consider
the
sufficiency
or
sustainability
of
income
or
the
credit
rating
of
a
renter
buyer
or
loan
applicant.
P
So
long
as
sufficiency
or
sustainability
of
income
and
the
credit
requirements
are
applied
in
a
commercially
reasonable
manner,
and
the
amendment
also
provides
source
of
income
that
was
created
by
federal
rental
assistance.
Funds
adopted
during
the
116th
or
117th
congress
received
by
the
tenant
during
the
covet
19
pandemic.
The
shell
sun
set
on
june
30th
2022
and
subsequent
to
the
hearing,
senator
neil
proposed
the
additional
conceptual
amendment
which
is
included
in
the
work
session
document
to
make
additional
changes
to
section
33
of
the
bill
and
staff
has
been
notified.
F
Thank
you.
So,
after
talking
with
some
other
stakeholders,
the
amendment
is
to
make
sure
that
the
section
33
well,
it
doesn't
apply
to
manufactured
housing.
So
I
needed
to
add
that
in
was
just
too
much
going
on,
but
that
is
the
addition.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
questions
from
the
committee
members.
N
Madam
chair,
I
move
that
we
amend
and
do
pass
senate
bill
254
with
the
amendments
in
the
work
session
document
and
the
amendment
senator
neil
just
mentioned
to
increase
the
applicability
of
the
bill
to
manufactured
housing.
A
Okay.
Thank
you
a
second
on
that
second,
second
from
senator
neil,
thank
you
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
H
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I'm
going
to
be
voting.
No,
I
think
that
I
think
people
own
property
and
want
to
rent
out
to
other
people,
including
people
who
have
complexes,
have
a
right
and
a
responsibility
to
protect
the
people
that
are
already
there
and
the
idea
that
you
can't
ask
about
criminal
history,
I
think,
is
a
mistake.
H
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'm
gonna.
I
will
vote
for
the
motion
at
this
point,
but
again
I'd
love
to
see
the
bill
all
put
together
and
in
all
the
pieces.
So
I
will
reserve
my
right
to
vote
no
on
the
floor.
If
I
trust
miss
neil,
but
I
want
to
see
it
all
in
one
package.
Thank
you.
F
Will
make
comments
so
so
I
just
wanna-
and
I
know
what
everybody's
saying
so,
I'm
gonna
so
the
s
a
b
317,
which
I
added
in
in
entirety,
was
that
was
scaled
back
to
the
three
four
paragraphs
versus
and
then
I'm
still
working
on
trying
to
get
that
source
of
income
scaled
back
to
be
very
narrow.
But
the
amendments
really
did
deal
with
the
criminal
history
and
expanded
the
exemptions,
meaning
violent
felons
other
categories
that
I
added
in
arson,
etc.
F
N
H
A
Yes
and
I
will
hand
the
poor
statement,
senator
neil.
A
All
right
next
is
miss.
Keller,
walk
us
through
the
next
bill.
Please,
I
believe
we're
at
senate
bill
283.
P
That
is
correct.
Madam
chair
lisa
keller
committee
policy,
analyst
senate
bill
283
revises
provisions
relating
to
local
governments,
sponsored
by
senator,
brooks
and
heard
by
this
committee
on
april
5th
bennett
bill
283
authorizes
the
governing
body
of
a
municipality
to
create
a
district
for
qualified
improvement
projects
for
energy
efficiency,
renewable
energy,
resiliency
or
water
efficiency.
P
If
governing
body
makes
a
finding
that
the
creation
of
the
district
serves
a
public
purpose.
The
governing
body
adopts
by
resolution,
certain
procedures
for
the
creation
and
administration
of
the
district
and
each
owner
on
each
tract
on
which
a
qualified
improvement
project
will
be
located.
Consents
in
writing
to
the
location
of
the
project,
the
levy
of
an
assessment
against
the
track
to
pay
the
financing
set
forth
in
the
financing
agreement
and
the
placement
of
a
lien
on
the
property
that
has
been
filed
by
a
capital
provider.
A
Okay,
I
think
we'll
miss
keller.
I
think
they'll
probably
go
to
questions
because
the
way
this
amendment
is
laid
out
with
the
highlighting,
I
think
it's
fairly
clear-
doesn't
mean
there
won't
be
questions,
but
I
think
you
don't
have
to
read
through
that.
So
with
that
being
said,
are
there
any
questions
from
the
committee.
C
H
I'm
gonna
vote
yes
to
get
out
of
committee,
but
frankly
there's
a
lot
of
confusing
things
about
the
bill
that
as
I
read
through
it,
I
don't
understand
often
talk
to
senator
brooks.
Maybe
he
can
straighten
me
out,
but,
okay,
that
make
me
a
little
uncomfortable,
but
I
will
support
the
measure
at
this
point.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
and
with
that
senator
goku.
C
A
Totally
understand
totally
understand,
thank
you
very
much
and
with
that
we'll
take
roll
call
vote.
B
C
A
Yes,
and
with
that,
the
motion
passes
and
we'll
give
the
floor
statement
to
mr
senator
brooks
all
right
with
that
we'll
go
to
sb
302,
please
miss
keller,
when
you're
ready.
P
Elisa
keller
committee
policy,
analyst
senate
bill
302
revises
provisions
relating
to
governmental
administration,
sponsored
by
senator
spearman
and
heard
by
this
committee
on
april
5th
senate
bill
302
makes
various
changes
relating
to
racial
equity.
The
bill
creates
the
minority,
health
and
equity
account
and
requires
that
any
gift
grant
appropriation
or
donation
received
by
the
office
of
minority
health
and
equity
be
deposited
in
the
account.
The
bill
adds
the
promotion
of
racial
equity
to
the
purposes
of
the
office.
P
Finally,
the
bill
requires
the
interim
finance
committee
to
make
certain
considerations
regarding
proposed
provisions
to
work
programs,
gifts,
grants
or
expenditures
related
to
a
health
care
matter
that
disproportionately
affects
black
and
indigenous
persons
or
other
persons
of
color.
No
amendments
were
proposed.
F
I
mean
this
is
this
is
a
hard
vote
for
me
because
I
I
understand
which,
where
she's
trying
to
go,
but
I
also
understand
that
the
scope
is
super
wide,
because
miss
dorch
is
one
person
for
the
entire
state
and
there's
no
money
in
that
office,
and
so
I'm
gonna
vote
to
get
it
out.
But
I'm
really
hoping
that
you
know
the
scope
is
when
she
has
more
time
to
work
the
bill.
She
reduces
that
scope,
so
it's
actually
manageable
for
the
one
person
for
the
entire
state.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
additional
questions
from
the
committee
senator
gokuchiya.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
I'm
gonna
oppose
the
measure.
I
just
don't
see
how
this
is
even
workable
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
You
know
our.
I
I
realized
the
need,
but
I
just
don't
see
how
we're
gonna
get
there
with
this
bill.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Additional
questions
from
the
committee.
A
H
I
would
just
say
ditto
to
what
senator
actually
both
senators
said.
I
think
that
we
we're
moving
so
far
away
from
the
idea
of
a
colorblind
society
that
we
were
all
raised.
That's
the
martin
luther
king
idea
judge
people
on
the
content
of
their
character,
not
the
color
of
their
skin,
and
we
keep
breaking
more
and
more
and
more
categories
down.
We
should
have
a
meritocracy.
H
The
idea
you're
going
to
force
a
bunch
of
people
to
go
through
trainings,
like
this
bill,
would
require
in
the
private
sector
is
just
crazy.
I
mean
we're
reaching
the
point
of
you
know:
re-education
camps
for
all
the
citizens
of
the
united
states,
I'm
a
strong,
no.
A
Okay,
thank
you
with
that
miss
keller.
We
will
take
a
roll
call
vote.
N
H
P
P
The
amendment
makes
the
following
changes
to
the
bill,
provides
that,
notwithstanding
the
protections
for
hair,
texture
and
protective
hairstyles,
an
employer
may
enforce
health
and
safety
requirements
set
forth
in
federal
or
state
law
provides.
The
protective
hair
styles
include
natural
hair
styles,
afros,
bantu
knots
and
curls
elites,
ancestry,
color
ethnic
group,
identification,
ethnic
background
and,
historically,
to
provide
that
race
includes
traits
associated
with
race,
including
without
limitation,
hair,
texture
and
protective
hairstyles
elite.
A
Thank
you
very
much
questions
from
the
committee
senator
hanson.
Please.
H
F
So
we're
talking
about
public
schools
right
we're
not
talking
about
it,
doesn't
cross
into
businesses
when
it
talks
about
uniform
it's
talking
about,
what's
actually
in
the
school
district
itself,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
like
one
of
the
amendments
I
didn't
hear,
it
said
that
about
the
making
sure
that
so
the
rural
counties
are
exempted
from
this
in
terms
of
the
promotion
practices,
and
then
there
was
a
test
score
amendment
where
about
them:
the
employee
and
the
employer,
getting
the
information
at
the
same
time
and
not
getting
it
before
the
employer.
D
Madam
chair,
this
is
heidi
clarkson,
with
the
equal
division
go
ahead
just
to
to
clarify.
M
D
So
there
are
some
additional
changes
that
are
included
and.
M
F
Oh
okay,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure,
because
if
they
will
be
able
to
get
the
incorrect
answers,
but
not
the
correct
answers
which
was
causing
constant
consternation
for
the
local
governments,
and
that
was
what
we
worked
out,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
But
okay,
not
to
step
on
you
senator
hansen,
I'm
just
trying
to
make
sure
everything
I
agreed
to
with
the
local
government
and
the
law
enforcement
were
in.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
all
right.
Any
other
questions
on
senate
bill,
327
senator
gokuchi,
please.
F
Yeah,
I
didn't
I
didn't
yeah.
I
didn't
put
that
in
for
the
so
for
the
it's.
I
believe
that
language
applies
to
the
larger
school
districts,
but
if
it's
not
in
there,
I
will
make
that
clarification,
but
the
pop
cap,
there
is
no
pop
cap
related
to
the
promotions.
What
we
did
was
in
order
to
exempt
the
rurals
out.
We
did
it
by
number
of
employees
to
take
them
out
rather
than
put
a
pop
cap
in.
If
that
makes
sense,.
F
Seven
and
eight,
where
it
was
excluding
the
smaller
counties
but
based
on
department
size
because
typically
they're
smaller
to
smaller
departments.
So
it
wouldn't
touch
them.
And
then
you
know
just
bring
in
the
larger
cities
by
employee
number.
A
Okay
is
that
it
okay,
then,
if
there
are
no
more
questions,
I
will
take
a
motion.
A
H
Thanks,
madam
chair,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
be
a
no.
I
just
think
this
goes
too
far.
It's
kind
of
interesting
I
was
thinking
about
it,
nevada,
history,
the
chinese
were
discriminated
against
over
their
hairstyles.
They
used
to
have
their
long
queues
and
there
were
some
open
prejudices
about
that.
So
I'm
sympathetic
to
the
idea,
I
just
think
some
of
these
grooming
standards
and
stuff
are
actually
beneficial.
H
I
think
their
evidences
are
very
strong,
that
in
the
public
schools,
where
they've
actually
implemented
uniform
policies,
grooming
policies
that
academic
performance
goes
up
and
discipline
problems
were
down.
So
I
I
think,
while
I'm
sympathetic
to
the
idea
of
not
discriminating
against
anybody
based
on
hairstyles
part
of
the
bad
fun
at
this
point,
but
I
just
I
think
the
village
goes
a
little
too
far,
so
I'm
gonna
have
vietnam.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
If
there's
no
more
discussion
on
the
motion,
we'll
take
the
roll
call
vote,
oh
senator,
go
continue.
Did
you
have
a
comment.
C
I'll
make
a
quick
comment
with
the
amendment.
I
I
think
I
can
support
the
bill
and
I
thank
the
senator
for
bringing
it
forward.
I
I
I
wouldn't
have
gave
you
much
for
it
today
in
the
initial
hearing,
so
thank
you.
I
will
support
the
bill.
A
C
N
A
A
Okay,
with
no
questions
from
the
committee
I'll
take
a
motion.
A
D
B
P
H
D
A
Yes
and
with
that
motion
passes-
and
I
will
make
the
poor
statement
and
if
I
can't
do
it
I'll
ask
vice
chair
orrin
shaw
to
be
my
backup
if,
for
any
reason,
something
happens,
thank
you
very
much
all
right
with
that.
That
completes
our
work
session.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
I'm
going
to
hand
the
gavel
over
to
vice
chair
orenshaw,
so
that
I
can
get
going
on
the
last
bill
and
I
will
just
to
let
all
of
you
know
just
as
a
heads
up
at
on
friday.
A
We
will
be
having
a
meeting
that
I
am
going
to
be
trying
to
schedule
that
at
1
32
earlier,
so
that
we
can
get
ourselves
done
before
8
o'clock
at
night.
So
I'm
going
to
see
if
I
can
do
that
without
floor
session,
I'm
guessing,
maybe
I
can
get
lucky
so
keep
that
in
mind
and
I'll.
Let
you
all
know
when
that's
going
to
happen
so
vice
chair
orange
hall,
if
you'll
take
the
gavel
I'll
get
busy
with
this
next
bill,.
N
Thank
you
very
much
chair
dondero
loop,
I'd
like
to
now
open
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
373.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
to
present
chair
dondero
loop.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Vice
chair
orange
shawl
for
the
record,
I'm
marilyn
donderolu,
representing
senate
district
8
clark
county
and
I'm
pleased
to
present
senate
bills.
373
to
the
committee
senate,
bill
373
would
establish
collective
bargaining
rights
for
certain
unclassified
state
employees,
including
the
nevada
system
of
higher
education,
faculty
and
professional
staff.
I
will
I
am
going
to
pass
the
presentation
over
to
dr
kent
irvin
and
professor
doug
douglas
unger
to
provide
additional
details
and
they
will
walk
you
through
the
bill
and
so
dr
irvin
and
professor
hunger,
when
you're
ready.
Q
Thank
you.
Can
you
all
hear
me.
A
Q
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Senator
donder
loop
for
sponsoring
this
bill
and
vice
chair
orringshaw
and
committee
members.
I
am
kent
irvin
k-e-n-t
e-r-v-I-n,
representing
the
nevada
faculty
alliance.
Q
However,
those
bargaining
units
are
structured
under
internal
regulations
of
the
board
of
regents,
which
are
very
limited
and
do
not
provide
the
protections
afforded
to
other
public
employees
in
nevada
under
nrs
288.
The
government
employees
management
relations
act,
a
better
defined
process
and
statute
provided
by
sb
373
will
enable
us
to
expeditiously
bargain
in
the
best
interest
of
our
institutions
and
students.
Q
Sb
373
creates
a
new
section
of
nrs
288,
the
government,
employee
management
relations
act
that
is
applicable
to
unclassified
state
professional
employees,
primarily
nc
faculty
and
their
professional
organization.
It
has
been
drafted
to
avoid
interfering
with
the
separate
nrs
two-day
sections
for
local
government
employees
and
classified
employees.
Q
Sb
373
closely
follows
the
collective
bargaining
statutes
already
established
in
288
for
state
classified
employees
as
it
enacted
in
sb-135
of
the
219
2019
session,
with
some
clarifications
needed
for
higher
education,
including,
for
example,
shared
governance
and
academic
freedom.
As
mandatory
items
of
in
negotiation
for
formation
of
bargaining
units,
sb
373
uses
the
community
of
interest
standard
that
is
similar
to
the
local
government
employees
section
of
nrs280
288,
which
allows
flexibility
for
unclassified
professional
employees
to
negotiate
with
their
employers
on
appropriate
bargaining
groups.
Q
Although
the
board
of
regents
has
granted
limited
collective
bargaining
rights
for
faculty
for
about
30
years,
I
think
it's
through
nc
internal
regulations,
and
this
means
that
one
party,
the
board
of
regents
our
management,
writes
and
interprets
the
rules
of
engagement.
Sp
373
will
provide
a
level
playing
field.
Q
Collective
bargaining
provides
a
collaborative
opportunity
and
framework
for
higher
education
faculty
to
work
with
their
administrations
to
achieve
institutional
goals.
Research
suggests
that
collaboration
between
faculty
unions
and
college
administrations
can
increase
student
success
and
retention
and
increased
institutional
efficiency
efficiency.
We
have
submitted
a
fact
sheet
with
references
to
those
studies.
K
Good
evening
and
thank
you
to
chair,
dondero,
loop
and
vice
chair,
aren't
thought,
aren't
all
and
members
of
the
committee
for
your
consideration
and
service,
most
people,
think
of
collective
bargaining
for
faculty,
primarily
as
something
to
address
salaries
and
benefits.
But
I
consider
sb
373
to
be
more
useful
as
a
tool
to
provide
balanced
and
just
mediations
of
personnel
issues,
a
correction
to
the
failed
grievance
process
within
our
institutions
and
a
means
to
assure
workplace
rights
for
the
increasing
numbers
of
non-tenured,
administrative
faculty
faculty
and
residents.
K
Lecturers
and
part-time
teachers
on
which
higher
education
in
our
state
increasingly
relies.
The
passage
of
sb
373
would
improve
hiring
and
retention
by
adding
to
workplace
stability
and
security.
The
existing
form
of
collective
bargaining
permitted
by
title
iv,
chapter
4
of
the
board
of
regents
handbook,
is
imbalanced
because
ng
sets
the
rules.
K
Colleges
and
universities
tend
to
negotiate
from
a
medieval
model
within
which
regents,
the
chancellor
presidents
provosts
and
deans
exercise
in
nearly
absolute
authority
by
design
in
nevada.
The
periodic
tensions
between
the
legislature
and
the
board
of
regents
historically
have
either
increased
or
relaxed,
depending
on
the
exercise
of
a
similar
power.
As
defined
by
our
state
constitution
for
faculty,
the
passage
of
collective
bargaining
will
help
democratize
that
authority
the
18th
century
economist,
adam
smith.
K
A
foundational
theorist
for
the
free
market
economy
suggests
in
the
wealth
of
nations
that
the
freedom
of
markets
must
be
balanced
by
the
freedom
of
labor
to
make
contracts.
Higher
education
faculty
now
constitute
the
largest
group
of
state
employees
in
nevada,
without
support
in
law
or
collective
bargaining,
so
are
being
denied
the
freedom
of
contract
on
which
the
economy
and
a
healthy
higher
education
system
ultimately
depend
at
the
same
time.
We
view
this
landmark
legislation
as
unifying
and
not
conflicting
as
collaborative
and
not
confrontational.
K
N
Q
Irvin,
please
go
ahead.
Okay!
Thank
you
very
much.
Vice
chair,
roughly
90
of
the
bill
is
ver
taken
verbatim
from
other
statutes
and
mostly
in
288,
either
mostly
the
state
classified
sections,
but
some
parts
selected
from
the
local
government
union
sections
where
it
made
sense
for
unclassified
state
employees,
because
the
bill
is
lengthy.
We
have
submitted
a
written
section
by
section
description,
along
with
the
references
to
those
statutes
from
which
the
language
was
adopted.
Q
So
I
am
prepared
to
describe
the
major
sections
of
the
bill
in
whatever
detail
you
like,
but
I
can
also
simply
address
a
couple
of
the
major
points
how
the
bowl
is
structured.
What's
your
pleasure.
N
Q
Q
Thank
you
very
much.
Vice
chair
and
senator
donder
loop
chaired
on
dereluge,
so
I'll
first
draw
your
attention
to
the
structure
of
the
bill.
Q
There
are
course
some
sections
that
are
just
conforming
language,
but
sections
8
to
49
are
the
meat
of
the
bill
and
they're
structured
as
a
separate
subhead
of
what
they
call
a
subhead
of
nrs
288,
which
means
the
definitions
within
that
section
only
apply
to
that
section,
and
so
where
we
make
various
definitions
of
arbitration,
collective
exclusive
representation
and
so
forth.
Even
though
most
of
those
definitions
are
identical
to
other
parts
of
nrs,
they
only
apply
here
on
page
8
and
section.
Q
Subsection
1
of
section
15
says
that
the
bill
applies
to
unclassified
state
employees
and
other
state
employees
who
are
not
paid
according
to
the
classified
employee.
Employee
pay
schedule
so
that
excludes
state
classified
employees,
which
are
the
majority
of
state
employees,
but
it
includes
nc
faculty
and
adjunct
faculty
and
structured
instructors
who
are
hired
on
a
semester
by
semester
basis
and
aren't
technically
or
at
least
within
nc,
considered
unclassified
employees.
Q
So
we
wanted
to
capture
those
and
then
subsection
2
of
section
15
has
a
laundry
list
of
exclusions
just
to
make
really
clear
who
we
mean
to
cover,
and
some
of
these
are
redundant.
For
example,
it
explicitly
excludes
local
government
employees.
It
explicitly
includes
excludes
state
classified
employees
and
pers
employees
paid
under
the
classified
pay
section.
Q
Q
The
remaining
unclassified
state
employees
and
looking
through
the
biennial
pay
bill
most
would
be
excluded
because
they
are
managerial
employees
or
confidential
employees
that
leaves
besides
employees
and
she
at
the
nevada
system
of
higher
education.
That
leaves
just
a
few
technical
specialists
field.
Employees
inspectors
who
are
unclassified
employees
but
aren't
defined
as
managerial
employees.
Q
Our
assumption
is
that
there
aren't
very
many
of
those
in
most
cases
and
they
haven't
expressed
interest
in
organized
organizing
with
one
exception,
and
that
is
inspectors
of
the
gaming
control
board
I
became
aware
of
and
they
are
sub.
They
are
the
topic
of
sb
286,
which
has
been
brought
up,
and
I
I
just
point
that
out,
because
if
our
bill,
sp,
373
and
sb
286
were
both
to
pass,
there
would
need
to
be
some
heart
of
mind,
harmonizing
language
to
put
those
that
particular
group
of
employees
in
the
right
place.
Q
Q
We
did
take
so
one
difference
from
the
classified
employees
where
they
defined
bargaining
units.
In
the
statute,
we
chose
to
follow
the
local
government
model
of
the
community
of
inter-standard
performing
bargaining
units.
What
that
means
at
nc
is
that,
depending
on
the
campus
culture,
we
expect
academic
faculty
to
be
a
bargaining
unit
and
administrative
faculty
to
be
probably
another
bargaining
unit,
although
at
certain
campuses
they
could
be
combined
as
they
are
now
at
truckee
meadows,
community
college,
into
one
bargaining
unit,
and
this
provides
that
flexibility.
Q
H
Thanks
the
question
I
have
is
for
anybody,
the
imbalance
that
you
talk
about
the
real
problem
with
collective
bargaining
between
mg,
for
example,
and
the
board
of
regents.
There's
a
complete
imbalance
in
the
people
actually
pay
the
bill,
the
taxpayers
pretty
much
not
represented.
I
mean
I
guess
you
could
in
theory,
say
that
the
board
of
regents,
because
they're
elected,
do
but
it's
a
classic
problem
very
consistently.
N
And
you
can
go
directly
to
the
so
you
don't
have
to
go
through
the
chair.
Q
Well
I'll
start
off
professor
anger
and
then
let
you
follow
up
perhaps
follow
up.
Q
They
would
have
to
put
it
into
the
regular
budget
process,
and
then
this
gives
the
governor
the
state,
the
full
authority
to
either
put
that
in
the
executive
budget
or
not,
and
then
the
legislature,
the
elect
the
people
elected
representatives
of
the
people,
ultimately
determine
any
appropriation
based
of
a
collective
bargaining.
So
that's
the
check
imbalances.
H
K
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
the
economic
advantages
of
collective
bargaining,
as
one
looks
at
it
nationwide
at
campuses
that
have
collective
bargaining,
there's
and
pardon
me
for
reading
from
figures
here,
but
there
is
a
savings
of
thirteen
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
in
core
expenses
per
degree
awarded
and
an
additional
1.2
degrees
awarded
per
100
students
enrolled.
K
It
increases
the
efficiency
of
the
institution
because
it
increases
retention
and
whenever
you
do
a
higher
at
an
r1
university,
or
I
don't
know
what
the
cost
is
at
a
community
college,
but
the
r1
university
is
a
search,
will
cost
anything
from
35
000
to
50
000.
If
you
really
crunch
the
numbers
and
the
constant
turnover
because
of
workplace
issues
and
and
I'm
not
talking
about
salaries
and
benefits,
I'm
talking
about
a
broken
system
for
being
able
to
deal
with
personnel
issues
and
other
issues
on
a
university
campus.
K
If
you
have
collective
bargaining
in
place
and
increases
retention,
therefore
it
increases
efficiencies
for
the
taxpayer.
It
eventually
ends
up
costing
less,
because
everything
is
much
more
predictable.
K
I
know
you're
all
very
busy,
but
if
you
took
the
time
to
look
at
the
link
of
a
collective
bargaining
agreement
that
was
just
finished
in
june
2020,
you
would
look
at
the
base
salaries
there
and
understand
that
we're
talking
about
minimum
salaries
being
established
by
most
collective
bargaining
institution
institutions
rather
than
any
kind
of
accelerated
salary
increase
that
I
think
you're
thinking
of
from
maybe
some
private
sector
examples.
K
H
You
know
I
I
have
attempted
several
times
since
I've
been
a
legislator
to
try
to
get
some
level
of
auditing
on
enchi
and
the
board
of
regents
aggressively
fought
me
as
did
hire
all
the
people
from
the
chancellor
on
down.
So
as
far
as
efficiencies
I
I
would
love
to
have
the
opportunity
to
have
a
true
audit
of
the
system
of
higher
ed
and
see
whether
or
not
your
theory
is
correct.
Mr
unker
simply
simply
put
I.
H
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that's
totally
lacking
in
nevada
state
government
has
been
overs
financial
oversight
of
the
system
of
higher
ed
and
that
so
I'm
very
uncomfortable
with
this,
and
while
it's
nice
to
say
that
maybe
it'll
improve
the
efficiency.
The
ultimate
efficiency
I'd
like
to
see
is
simply
to
have
some
kind
of
audit
to
see
where
we
are
now
and
then
you
have
a
baseline
to
really
start
and
see
whether
or
not
we
go
forward.
H
Thank
you
for
taking
up
too
much
time,
as
is
thank
you,
mr
vice
chair,.
F
Thanks
vice
chair,
so
I
had
a
question.
I
think
it's
section
36,
but
it's
step
three
a
trying
to
get
the
line.
F
Q
Okay,
thank
you
senator
neil
for
the
question.
I'm
looking
at
section
36,
subsection
3,
where
it
says
if
there
is
a
conflict
between
any
provision
of
eclectic
bargaining
agreement
between
the
employer
and
the
bargaining
unit,
that
the
the
way
I
read
a
and
this
language
is
directly
from
nrs
288
now
from
the
state
classified
section.
Q
But
it
says
that
the
collective
bargaining
agreement
prevails
over
the
policies
or
procedures
of
regulation
for
us
that
would
be
enshi
code
adopted
by
the
board
of
regents
or
any
institutional
policies
or
bylaws.
So
a
collective
bargaining
agreement
once
agreed
by
both
parties
would
supersede
those
internal
regulations.
F
Yeah,
I
was
just
trying
to
see
what
that
hierarchy
was
try
to
get
an
understanding
there
right,
yeah.
So
all
right.
F
N
One
question
I
have
is
with
the
collective
bargaining
agreement:
if
this
passes
take
into
account
issues
like
you
know,
academic
freedom
or
whether
a
professor
is
whether
there's
bullying
or
harassment
in
a
department
or
a
college.
You
know,
because
I
know
sometimes
that
can
make
good
professors
leave
institutions.
Would
it
try
to
make
sure
that
there
are
more
fair
outcomes
in
that
kind
of
situation?.
Q
Thank
you
for
the
question
vice
chair
orangeville.
Yes,
it
would,
and
you
know,
for
professional
employees
faculty
in
particular.
The
salaries
are
pretty
much
set
by
the
marketplace.
So
this
really
isn't
about
salaries.
Q
But
what
it
does
we
explicitly
have
in
here
in
the
language
that
shared
governance,
procedures
and
academic
freedom
are
mandatory
audience
of
negotiation
within
the
bargaining
agreement,
as
well
as
setting
up
procedures
for
grievances,
and
that's
where
we
see
really
the
the
major
crux
of
of
this
bill
that
we'll
be
able
to
by
negotiating
and
working
on
those
policies
and
how
how
those
procedures
work
that
we'll
be
able
to
make
improvements.
N
F
Dr
kent
and
unger,
you
guys
have
been
working
on
this
for
a
while.
What
do
you
estimate
the
cost
of
this
being
to
have
this
funded.
Q
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
neil,
the
only
direct
cost
is
the
fee,
and
I'd
have
to
find
the
section
to
the
that's
required
to
fund
the
employee
management
relations
board.
That's
section
49,
and
this
is
a
fee
that
now
is
currently
charged
on
all
local
government
union
employees
and
all
state
classified
employees
and
the
statutes
say
up
to
ten
dollars,
but
it's
been
less
than
that.
I
don't
know
if
emb
rb
is
listing
can
come
on
later
or
not,
but
it's
up
to
ten
dollars
maximum.
Q
It's
been
four
to
six
dollars.
Typically,
is
the
fee
that's
charged
in
in
our
bill,
because
we
don't
expect
all
of
our
institutions
to
organize
anytime
soon
the
language
was
changed
a
little
bit
to
apply
just
to
employees
who
are
in
bargaining
union
who
have
an
exclusive
representative
right
now
there
are
900
of
those
in
the
at
the
three
community
colleges,
so
ten
dollar
fee
would
be
nine
thousand
dollars
a
year.
Q
If
all
of
the
faculty
organized
that's
sixty
two
hundred
so
sixty
two
thousand
a
year,
that's
the
only
direct
fee.
Now
you
could
folks
argue
that
collective
bargaining
agreements
are
expensive,
but
that's
not
in
the
bill,
because
any
collective
bargaining
agreement
has
to
be
agreed
to
on
both
sides
in
the
future.
So
the
statute
itself
that
allow
collective
bargaining
do
not
have
a
fiscal
note.
Because
of
that.
N
Dr
unger,
I
believe
dr
hunger.
K
Yes,
thank
you
and
doug
unger
for
the
record.
I
was
the
chair
of
the
council
of
faculty
senate
chairs
for
the
state
and
vice
chair,
chair
and
past
chair
of
the
unlv
faculty
senate.
K
When
I
was
in
this
role,
I
watched
needless
lawsuits
between
faculty
members
and
enshi,
and
I
would
like
to
point
out
for
the
record
how
much
money
this
collective
bargaining
bill
could
save
the
system
and
the
state
in
needless
litigation
because
of
the
mediation
provisions
that
are
there,
which
are
really
the
heart
of
the
bill,
providing
these
alternate
mediations
and
arbitration
mechanisms
that
will
avoid
lawsuits
and
avoid
the
kind
of
lawsuits
that
were
really
tragic.
That
I
witnessed
when
I
was
in
that
state
role
and
watched.
K
K
N
Thanks
very
much-
and
I
can
certainly
attest
to
that
from
about
a
century
ago
when
I
was
an
undergrad
at
unlv.
I
think
I
had
a
math
professor
and
an
economics
professor,
who
were
both
involved
in
very,
very
highly
publicized
litigation
with
the
institution,
which
would
be
great
if
that
could
be
avoided
in
the
future,
through
mediation
or
through
the
agreement
members.
Any
any
additional
questions
for
our
presenters.
C
Q
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
gokachia
it
so
in
the
sections
for
classified
staff,
eclectic
bargaining
agreement
is
negotiated
between
the
executive
department
and
the
bargaining
units.
Q
Thank
you,
and
you
know
I.
I
have
a
note
here
that
I'm
supposed
to
be
saying
my
name
every
time,
and
I
realize
that
I
I
have
totally
failed
in
that.
So
thank
you.
This
is
kent.
Irvin
nfa,
for
the
record.
Q
The
well,
you
know
we're
negotiating
with
the
institution
that
agreement
has
to
first
sorry,
I
I
miss
the
step.
Any
agreement
collected
barton
agreement
is
first
negotiated
between
the
bargaining
unit
and
typically
the
institution,
and
then
it
has
to
be
approved
by
the
board
of
regents
at
a
public
meeting.
Q
So
that's
the
when
the
board
of
regents
would
decide.
Yes,
we
can
agree
to
this
eclectic
bargaining
agreement
or
not,
and
but
once
they
agree
to
it,
if
it
requires
money
that
can
only
be
obtained
from
the
state
now
and
she
isn't
fully
state
funded
at
state
and
student
and
grant
funded
and
so
forth,
but
to
the
extent
that
it
requires
an
appropriation
that
goes
through
this
process.
I
mentioned
that
they
would
put
it
in
the
budget
and
then
it
could
be
approved
or
not
in
the
executive
budget.
C
But
again,
if
I
made
mr
vice
chair
one
last
question,
but
then
when
you
are
bargaining
with
the
the
the
local
institution
again,
if
you
don't
reach,
if
you
don't
have
success,
then
you
can
in
fact
send
it
over
to
the
employer
management
relation
board.
I
mean
and
and
end
up
in
arbitration,
even
at
that
level
end
with
this
bill
correct.
I
C
C
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
this
opportunity,
and
I'm
here
to
testify
my
support
for
senator
373
collective
bargaining
rates
for
faculty,
if
established
by
the
passage
of
sb
373,
will
improve
higher
education
for
all
in
the
state
of
nevada,
with
the
successful
passage
of
sp
135
in
previous
legislation,
nc
faculty
are
only
one
of
the
largest
group
of
employees
without
collective
bargaining
rights,
collective
bargaining
rights
will
allow
unlv
to
recruit
and
retain
the
best
of
the
faculty,
as
the
group
will
have
stronger
points
in
negotiating
salaries
and
benefits,
but
also
managing
workload,
as
well
as
reducing
costs
of
faculty
recruitment
and
attrition.
C
The
bill
also
would
allow
formation
of
bargaining
units
for
part-time
instruction
instructors
and
graduate
assistants
like
me,
which
would
allow
them
to
pro
allow
the
university
provide
styphon
to
attract
passionate
and
motivated
graduate
students.
As
doctor
doug
mentioned
previously,
faculty
unionization
will
help
with
faculty,
improve
faculty
governance
and
improve
student
retention.
Based
on
a
previous
study.
C
Also,
there
will
be
reduced
costs,
while
also
increasing
degree
completion
by
students
which
might
offset
any
increases
that
might
happen
with
recruiting
or
retaining
researchers
perfect
as
faculty.
The
ability
to
recruit
and
retain
top
faculty
and
graduate
students
is
very
important
for
unlv
and
our
sister
university
unr
to
maintain
their
distinguished
top
tier
r1
series.
In
summary,
passage
of
sp
373
with
all
the
aforementioned
benefits
to
both
faculty
and
students
in
the
state
of
nevada
will
lead
to
improvements
in
quality
of
higher
education
in
a
physically
responsible
manner.
I
C
C
Q
C
Marks
with
the
nevada
state
education
association,
the
voice
of
nevada
educators
for
over
120
years
and
sda
supports
sb
373
to
extend
collective
bargaining
to
higher
education.
Employees
in
nevada,
collective
bargaining
in
mutual
exchange
of
positions
followed
by
agreement
enables
a
group
of
employees
with
a
community
interest
to
negotiate
a
binding
written
contract
with
an
employer.
It
gives
workers
a
voice
in
their
workplace
and
has
become
a
respected
approach,
valued
by
employees
and
employers
in
the
private
sector
and
throughout
various
levels
of
government.
C
I
C
C
Our
concern
was,
we
didn't,
want
any
ambiguity
about
the
definitions,
because
there
are
some
similar
terms
in
the
state,
employee,
collective
bargaining
law,
but
I
believe
professor
irvin
and
dr
unger
had
taken
care
of
that
with
this
drafting
and
lcb.
Of
course,
collective
bargaining
is
something
that
just
gives
workers
a
seat
at
the
table.
There
are
all
kinds
of
financial
protections
and
layers
that
it
has
to
go
through,
of
course,
including
the
governor
and
the
legislature,
so
that
we
hope
we
hope
that
you
will
give
these
workers
the
ability
to
bargain.
I
O
Good
evening,
mr
vice
chair
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
priscilla
maloney,
with
the
ask
me
4041,
retiree
chapter
and
would
simply
like
to
say
a
ditto
to
everything.
That's
been
said
by
by
the
nevada
faculty
alliance,
dr
irving,
dr
irvin,
dr
unger,
and
then
most
recently
carter.
Bundy
from
ask
me
international
again.
O
Our
position
at
ask
me
is
that
the
collective
bargaining
encourages
and
promotes
mediative
type
dialogues
between
employee
and
employer
and
that
that
is
always
a
good
thing.
I
especially
note
that,
in
my
experience
as
a
labor
representative
for
ask
me
4041
years
ago,
I
can
promise
you
that
the
efficacy
of
getting
people
to
the
table
in
an
equal
position
of
dialogue
absolutely
can
can
reduce
conflicts
that,
as
dr
unger
pointed
out,
can
unfortunately
sometimes
lead
to
litigation.
O
So
the
fc
retirees
are
very
grateful
to
all
the
work
that
the
nevada
faculty
alliance
and
dr
irvin
and
dr
umber
have
done
to
bring
this
bill
forward
and
we
thank
senator
down
daryl
luke
for
being
the
sponsor
of
this
bill,
and
so
we
support
sb
373
wholeheartedly
and
look
forward
to
welcoming
the
affected
employees
in
the
bill
to
the
labor
family.
Thank.
I
N
I
D
Good
evening,
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record
paul
moratkin
m-o-r-a-d
k-h-a-n
with
the
vegas
chamber,
as
many
of
you
know,
the
chamber
has
expressed
significant
concerns
over
the
year
over
the
years
about
the
expansion
of
question
bargaining
at
the
state
level.
From
the
taxpayer
perspective,
it
has
been
a
long-standing
position
for
the
organization
and
we
did
oppose
sb
135
in
the
2019
legislative
session.
D
Our
concerns
are
based
on
the
financial
impact
that
it
would
have
on
the
state's
budget
and
the
strain
that
would
place
on
the
state's
limited
resources
by
expanding
collective
bargaining,
professional
employees
as
it
relates
to
the
nevada,
higher
education.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
this
evening.
Thank
you.
I
I
O
Thank
you
chair
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
risa
lieberwicz.
O
R-I-S-A-L-I-E-B-E-R-W-I-T-Z,
I
am
hoping
that
there
was
some
technical
problem
here
with
my
phone
and
I
am
speaking
in
support
of
sc
373.
I
hope
that
I
will
be
able
to
do
that
at
this
point,
so
I
will
go
ahead
with
the
yes.
Thank
you.
As
I
said,
my
name
is
risa
lieberwicz.
I
am
the
general
counsel
of
the
american
association
of
university
professors,
the
aaup
I'm
also
a
professor
of
labor
and
employment
law
in
the
cornell
university
school
of
industrial
and
labor
relations.
O
Aaup's
mission
is
to
advance
academic
freedom,
economic
security
and
faculty
governance,
all
of
which
promote
higher
education
for
the
common
good.
The
aaup
has
45
000
members
with
chapters
on
nearly
600
campuses.
These
include
more
than
80
local
unionized,
aauv
chapters,
most
of
which
are
in
state
universities.
O
Shared
governance
such
as
faculty
senate,
is
an
effective
means
for
collective
faculty
participation
in
university
governance,
including
the
protection
of
academic
freedom,
economic
security
and
other
values
of
the
academic
profession.
Additionally,
for
five
decades,
collective
bargaining
has
been
an
important
and
effective
means
to
further
these
values,
which
are
essential
to
fulfilling
the
public
mission
of
higher
education.
O
I
I
N
I
J
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
laura
rich
executive
officer
of
the
public
employees
benefits
program.
I
am
testifying
in
the
neutral
position
today,
as
the
board
or
pep
board
has
not
had
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
and
take
a
position
on
this
bill
until
it
meets
tomorrow.
J
J
Pebb
is
not
sufficiently
equipped
with
proper
staffing
expertise,
I.t
system
abilities
or
even
existing
contracts
to
be
able
to
administer
different
variations
of
health
insurance
benefits
to
various
labor
groups.
The
customization
of
plan
design
for
each
professional
group
would
lead
to
greater
cost
and
potentially
reduce
savings
because
of
peb's
inability
to
leverage
volume
through
a
single
population.
J
J
Lastly,
the
language
in
this
bill
appears
to
create
conflict
with
nrs
287.043,
which
provides
the
pep
board
with
the
power
and
authority
to
to
develop
and
establish
health
insurance
benefits,
as
well
as
ensure
the
program
is
funded
on
an
actuarially,
sound
basis.
Incorporating
health
insurance
into
collective
bargaining
nearly
removes
the
relevance
and
necessity
of
the
board.
I
thank
the
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
bill
and
urge
that
pep
be
included
in
discussions
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
I
J
Good
evening,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
laura
freed,
l-a-u-r-a,
f,
r
e
d.
I
serve
as
the
director
of
the
department
of
administration,
and
I
am
testifying
in
the
neutral
position
this
evening,
because
my
department
is
the
one
that
organizes
the
collective
bargaining
effort
under
current
law
and
so
in
our
analysis
of
this
bill,
what
we
noticed
is
that
the
bill
adds
numerous
subjects
to
mandatory
bargaining.
J
This
includes
these
are
current.
These
are
subjects
not
in
current
law
added
under
this
bill:
maternity,
paternity
leave,
family
medical
leave
insurance,
including
health
insurance
classification
entitled
with
professional
employees,
safety
in
the
workplace,
academic,
freedom
for
faculty,
shared
governance
in
academic
institutions,
faculty
tenure,
transfer
and
reassignment
of
professional
employees
and
procedures
for
reductions
in
force,
and
on
that
last
one.
I
would
note
that
under
current
law,
that's
specified
as
a
management
right
so
because
there
are
a
lot
of
mandatory
subjects
added
pursuant
to
this
bill.
J
This
complicates
the
department
of
administration
and
collaboration
with
ncm,
with
pebb
to
gain
the
expertise
to
bargain
these
new
subjects
which
our
small
but
mighty
central
bargaining
team
does
not
currently
have,
and
so
I
know
that
senator
neil
asked
about
fiscal
notes.
The
department
of
administration
also
has
submitted
a
fiscal
note
to
the
lcb
that
is
not
currently
in
nellis,
and
it
totals
just
over
a
million
dollars
in
the
upcoming
biennium.
J
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record
so
that
you
would
note
that
we,
we
kind
of
face
a
need
to
really
increase
the
expertise
from
what
we
have
been
doing
with
the
bargaining
processes
that
we're
engaged
in
right
now.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
comment.
I
I
D
D
We
appreciate
the
nfa
for
their
cooperation
and
communication.
The
board
of
regents
already
provides
procedures
for
faculty
to
form
collective
bargaining
units
at
inchi
institutions
and
to
engage
in
negotiations.
We're
still
reviewing
this
complex
bill.
We
do
have
questions
about
its
scope,
reach
into
board
governance
over
personnel
matters
and
costs.
We
look
forward
to
having
further
dialogue
with
the
nfa
and
chair
donde
or
lu,
to
better
understand
the
bill
and
its
provisions.
I
I
N
Thank
you
very
much
broadcasting
I'd
like
to
bring
it
back
to
the
presenters
chair,
dondero
lube,
dr
unger,
dr
ervin.
Any
closing
remarks
you'd
like
to
make.
Q
Yes,
thank
you
vice
chair,
oring
orangehall,
so
I'm
a
little
surprised
because
those
are
the
first
times
I've,
I've
heard
from
pebb
or
the
department
administration
about
a
fiscal
note
on
the
bill.
So
but
of
course
this
is
the
policy
committee
and
we'll
be
interested
in
and
actually
seeing
what
those
fiscal
notes
are.
The
regarding
and
she's.
Q
Possible
fiscal
impact
because,
as
she
already
has
collective
bargaining
within
its
own
code,
there's
no
new
administrative
structure
because
it's
already
allowed
under
ng
code
and
then
there
are
just
a
very
small
number
of
unclassified
state
employees
that
would
be
subject
to
this
bill.
So
it's
hard
to
understand
how
those
numbers
come
about.
Q
Finally,
we'll
continue
to
have
discussions
that
have
started
with
nc
regarding
some
concerns
they've
expressed
and
if
there's
something
we
can
do
in
the
bill
in
the
next
day
to
fix
some
issues
there
we'll
bring
that
to
senator
dondero
loop,
and
I
became
aware
today
or
the
afternoon
of
one
little
small
wording
change
that
probably
needs
to
be
done
so
we'll
bring
that
back
before
work
session.
Q
But
overall
I
would
like
to
thank
senator
donderolu
for
sponsoring
the
bill
and
you
vice
chair
orange
hall
and
committee
members
for
your
consideration
as
well
as
our
thank
you,
I'm
glad
our
national
representative
from
the
american
association
of
university
press
professors
did
get
in
and
it's
quite
late
on
the
east
coast,
although
thankfully
this
is
getting
over
early
compared
to
our
airing
last
session,
which
was
at
11
pm.
N
Well,
thank
you
very
much
chair
dondero
loop,
dr
urban
and
dr
unger,
and
yes,
as
you
noted,
the
senate
government
affairs
committee,
is
a
policy
committee,
not
a
fiscal
committee.
Those
issues
regarding
fiscal
notes
will
be
handled
somewhere
else.
I
will
now
close
the
hearing
on
the
measure
and
I'll
hand
the
gavel
back
over
to
chair
donder
loop.
I
think,
there's
one
item
left
on
the
agenda
chair.
A
I
I
A
All
right,
I
I
think
probably
we've
been
here
long
enough-
that
everybody
who's
had
a
chance
to
weigh
in
has
weighed
in
so
with
that
broadcasting.
I
thank
you
very
much
and
I
thank
you
committee
members.
I
don't
know
when
we
will
be
able
to
meet
on
friday,
but
I'm
going
to
see
if
we
can
do
it
before
3
30
no
promises,
but
I
will
let
all
of
you
know.
If
that
happens,
we
have
to
sort
of
juggle
all
the
members
in
every
committee.
A
So
thank
you
very
much
and
we'll
see
you
all
friday
at
some
point
and
with
that
we'll
close
and
adjourn
and
have
a
good
evening.
Thank
you.