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A
I'm
not
typically
one
to
read
a
long
set
of
opening
remarks,
but
because
we
are
working
in
a
virtual
environment,
this
session,
at
least
at
the
beginning.
I
did
want
to
make
sure
that
I
got
some
information
out
there
to
the
public,
so
I
am
going
to
do
a
little
bit
of
reading
to
you.
I
apologize
in
advance,
so,
first
of
all
everybody
on
the
on
the
zoom.
A
Please
remember
to
mute
your
mic
when
you're,
not
speaking
so
we
can
avoid
disruptions
and
if
you
can
turn
down
your
personal
cell
phones,
so
that
when
you're
on
camera
that
we're
not
getting
any
interruptions,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
have
the
secretary
call
the
role
just
to
make
sure
that
we
know
who's
here.
C
A
Thank
you
all
right,
so,
let's
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
these
virtual
meetings
are
going
to
proceed
and
how
the
public
will
be
able
to
participate.
So,
as
you
know,
because
of
the
kova
pandemic
and
in
the
interest
of
the
safety
of
the
staff
and
legislators
who
are
in
the
building,
but
also
the
public,
the
building
is
currently
closed
for
any
physical
attendance.
That
said,
we've
worked
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
there
are
lots
of
opportunities
for
you
to
still
participate
with
our
committees
and
to
make
sure
that
we
get
your
input.
A
So
as
in
all
previous
sessions,
all
committee-related
information
is
available
on
the
nevada
legislature
website
under
a
tab
that
is
known
as
the
nevada,
electronic
legislative
information
system
or
nellis,
which
is
accessible
always
on
our
website.
This
is
a
system
that
we've
received
awards
for
for
being
able
to
give
information
to
the
public,
and
it's
the
same
system
that
we've
been
using
for
a
number
of
years.
There
are
basically
four
ways
that
you
can
participate.
A
You
can
register
to
participate
in
a
committee
meeting
through
this
new
system,
and
you
can.
That
will
then
place
you
in
line
to
be
able
to
testify
on
a
bill
or
to
be
able
to
provide
public
comment
during
the
meeting.
If
you
submit
written
testimony,
you
can
re,
submit
it
to
the
email
address.
That's
on
the
agenda.
Written
testimony
is
equal
to
spoken
testimony.
A
They
all
end
up
in
the
public
record
and
we
encourage
you,
given
that
we
often
are
under
time
constraints
and
can't
always
get
to
everybody
to
make
sure
that
you
submit
written
testimony.
If
you
want
to
make
sure
your
comments
are
on
the
record,
you
can
always
share
your
opinion
via
the
legislature's
opinion
application
on
nellis
and
then,
if
you
just
want
to
watch
the
midi
the
committee
meetings,
you
can
watch
them
online
or
you
can
watch
them
on
our
youtube
channel.
A
There
is
information
all
about
all
of
this
under
a
help
tab
under
a
help
tab
on
the
nevada
legislative
website,
if
for
any
reason,
you're
having
any
challenges,
navigating
this
system
feel
free
to
email
me
and
we'll
get
some
staff
to
reach
out
to
you
to
help.
You
make
sure
that
you
can
participate
again.
If
you
want
to
testify
on
a
bill,
we
are
asking
that
you
please
register
first,
so
that
we
know
that
we're
out
there.
A
You
are
out
there
and
we
know
about
how
many
people
we're
trying
to
accommodate
in
a
meeting
these
committee
meetings
are
listed
in
several
places
on
nellis
and
again
this
is
just
the
same
as
it's
been
in
the
past,
so
you
just
go
find
that
committee
meeting.
Simply
click
register
click
the
participate
and
participate
button,
which
is
near
the
meeting
date
and
time
and
then
fill
in
all
that
required
information,
which
is
not
very
much
basically
just
your
name.
A
The
agenda
item
item
that
you're
interested
in
and
whether
you
are
in
a
support
or
opposition
or
neutral
on
that
bill.
This
is
the
same
thing
that
would
have
happened
if
you
had
attended
in
person
when
you
signed
in
for
the
meeting
again
again,
justin
just
a
note
just
because
you
registered
doesn't
mean
you
will
be
guaranteed
to
speak
in
a
120
day
session.
We
can't
always
take
all
verbal
testimony,
but
we
will
always
take
your
written
testimony
and
again
detailed
instructions
on
the
help
desk.
A
So
with
that,
I
hope
if
you
missed
any
of
that,
I
know
it
was
a
lot.
If
you
go
to
the
agenda
for
this
meeting,
it's
in
writing
there
all
of
the
different
ways
that
you
can
participate
as
well
as
well
as
contact
information
for
us
to
get
you
more
help.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
some
committee
introductions.
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
First
things.
First,
my
favorite
dessert
is
rice
krispies
disguised
with
marshmallows
and
in
the
form
of
treats
so
and
basically
anything
that's
got
sugar
in
it
can
become
my
favorite
dessert
and
if
somebody
threw
chocolate
in
there,
that
would
be
okay
too.
D
So
I'm
representing
sena
district
12
in
southern
nevada
and
grateful
to
have
been
in
this
committee
before
and
grateful
that
we
have
such
a
wonderful
chair
for
this
committee
and
appreciative
of
the
efforts
that
staff
have
been
doing
and
will
do
and
look
forward
to
serving.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
E
Afternoon,
thank
you
so
much,
I'm
dallas
harris.
I
represent
senate
district
11
in
the
southwest
part
of
clark
county.
My
favorite
dessert.
I
have
two
sorry
to
deviate
peach,
cobbler
and
pound
cake,
and
that's
because
those
are
my
mother's
specialties
and
that's
what
she
sends
me
when
she
wants
to
reach
out
and
make
me
feel
good,
so
doesn't
hurt
that
they're
delicious
happy
to
be
here
with
you
all
on
the
committee.
I
don't
think
I
served
with
either
of
you
last
session
on
any
committee.
So
I'm
happy
to
change.
F
D
A
Thank
you
senator.
How
do
you
feel
about
pie?
It's
delicious,
fantastic,
all
right!
So
again
we're
a
small
but
mighty
committee,
and
we
get
a
lot
of
work
done.
So
I'm
grateful
to
have
each
of
you
here
and
grateful
to
have
you
back
on
this
committee.
Senator
keith
keffer,
all
right
we're
going
to
move
on
to
staff.
Our
staff
includes
nonpartisan
staff
from
the
legislative
council
bureau,
and
so
I'm
going
to
start
with
our
committee
policy
analyst
megan
from
lawsuit.
A
F
Staffing
senate
health
and
human
services
and
prior
to
coming
to
nevada.
I
worked
in
colorado
for
the
national
conference
of
state
legislatures
on
health
and
human
service
issues
as
well,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
all
again.
This
session
on
my
favorite
dessert
chocolate
chip
cookies,
because.
A
F
Hi,
I'm
eric
robbins
from
the
lcb
legal
division.
This
will
be
my
fifth
see
fifth
session
with
the
lcb
and
fourth
session,
staffing
senate
health
and
human
services.
So
since
2015-
and
I
believe
senator
ki
kepper
was
on
the
first
my
first
session,
so
I
think
to
answer
his
question.
Two
sessions
absence
for
him,
but
anyway
my
favorite
dessert,
I
would
have
to
say,
is
a
chocolate
milkshake
because
it
is
sweet.
It's
cold!
It's
refreshing!
F
It's
got
everything,
I'm
looking
for
in
a
dessert,
so
yeah
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
everyone.
This
session.
A
F
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
nicole
flanges,
I'm
going
to
be
your
committee
manager
for
the
health
and
human
services
senate
committee
this
session,
I'm
a
recent
graduate
from
the
university
of
nevada,
reno
with
a
degree
in
political
science
and
business,
and
I'm
currently
getting
my
mba
there
as
well.
So
in
the
night
time
I
spotlight
as
a
student,
but
my
favorite
dessert
and
I
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
it.
I
had
an
initial
reaction
and
it
wasn't
right.
I
had
to
think
deeper.
F
My
favorite
dessert
is
nugget,
as
in
like
the
jaw,
squagga's
original
nugget
carrot
cake,
it's
a
three-tiered
carrot,
cake,
cream,
cheese,
frosting
and
it
is
the
most
superior.
So
that
was
my
favorite
dessert.
A
A
B
Yes,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here.
My
name
is
norma
millet
and
I've
been
retired.
Seven
years
now
I
have
a
total
of
33
years
in
public
service.
Public
agencies,
including
cities,
counties,
washoe,
county
santa,
barbara
county
city
of
montebello
in
california,
douglas
county
school
district,
and
my
last
five
years
were
with
the
division
of
at
that
time
it
was
called
mental
health
services.
Now
it's
called
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health
for
the
department
of
health
and
human
services.
I
was
a
personnel
officer
there.
B
I
also
have
seven
years
of
private
sector
experience,
including
working
at
resorts
in
maui,
such
as
the
hyatt
regency
maui,
the
western
maui
and
in
santa
barbara,
the
four
seasons
biltmore.
So
I
also
have
two
years
of
working
for
the.
This
will
be
my
second
time
working
for
the
legislature.
The
first
time
was
with
the
assembly
the
78th
session,
and
now
I'm
here
to
serve
you
during
the
81st.
B
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
on
your
team
and
anything
I
can
do
to
help
you
please
let
me
know.
Thank
you.
Oh,
my
favorite
dessert
is
tira
basu,
of
course,
because
it's
light
and
fluffy
and
it's
heaven.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
to
him.
A
big
tiramisu
fan
all
right,
and
then
we
are
going
to
do
one
last
introduction,
and
that
is
my
legislative
assistant,
so
morgan.
If
you
would
introduce
yourself.
F
A
A
If
you
call
the
legislative
building
because
you're
having
a
challenge
with
participating
with
our
committee,
those
would
be
the
two
individuals
that
would
be
best
situated
to
help
you
navigate
nellis
and
registering
to
participate
in
all
of
those
things
so
so
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
nicole
or
morgan.
If
you're
having
any
issues,
I
will
go
ahead
and
introduce
myself
now.
My
name
is
julia
ready.
A
I
am
the
senator
representing
senate
district
13,
which
is
kind
of
the
urban
core,
the
center
of
reno
and
sparks
on
nevada
native,
and
it's
my
dream
job
to
chair
the
senate,
health
and
human
services
committee,
because
these
are
issues
that
I
am
particularly
passionate
about.
A
Favorite
dessert
used
to
be,
I
used
to
always
say
it
was
the
one
that
was
that
we
had
on
our
wedding
night,
which
was
a
very
dark,
dense
chocolate
with
a
raspberry
drizzle,
and
that
carried
me
for
a
lot
of
years.
But
we
started
watching
the
great
british
baking
show
and
I
was
introduced
to
millionaire
shortbread
and
then
my
husband
started
baking
millionaires,
shortbread,
good
stuff,
shortbread,
dark
chocolate,
caramel
and
then,
if
you're
really
going
crazy,
some
coconut.
So
it's
wonderful
all
right!
Thanks
everybody!
A
It's
going
to
be
a
great
session
and
I
appreciate
working
with
you
we're
going
to
get
down
to
business
now.
Our
first
order
of
business
is
to
adopt
the
committee
rules,
I'm
happy
to
have
our
legislative
council
bureau
assistant
or
analyst
sorry
walk
us
through
those
rules.
If
you'd
like
they
are
essentially
the
same
rules
from
last
session,
with
the
exception
of
adding
the
virtual
elements,
and
if
anybody
has
questions
now
would
be
the.
A
C
A
All
right,
just
under
general
housekeeping,
we
are
scheduled
to
meet
on
tuesdays
and
thursdays
at
3
30..
If
you're
detained
and
not
able
to
be
here,
please
let
me
know
as
soon
as
possible.
A
Obviously
we
try
to
set
a
a
decorum
in
this
committee
that
is
appropriate
and
in
response
to
the
job
that
we're
being
asked
to
do,
which
is
to
represent
our
constituents
and
to
represent
the
state
of
nevada,
and
so
my
request
is,
of
course,
that
we
always
be
courteous
to
each
other
and
to
witnesses.
This
has
not
been
a
problem
in
our
committee,
but
we
don't
engage
with
anybody
who's
doing
with
testimony
who
is
trying
to
get
us
to
become
animated
or
angry
or
anything
along
those
lines.
A
We
we
tend
not
to
do
that
in
this
committee.
We're
going
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
the
testimony
that's
necessary
to
create
the
legislative
record,
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
the
intent
of
the
bill
is
clear
and
that
everybody
understands
the
bill.
We're
going
to
give
folks
the
opportunity
to
share
their
opinions
with
it
and
then
we're
going
to
decide
whether
or
not
it's
good
policy
for
the
state
of
nevada.
A
We
will
require
everybody
to
submit
exhibits
in
an
electronic
format
as
early
as
possible,
but
no
later
than
two
days
in
advance
of
the
beginning.
If
we
can
we're
really
just
trying
to
get
give
our
staff,
particularly
in
this
virtual
environment
environment
as
much
time
as
possible
to
make
sure
that
everybody
has
access
to
the
information,
if
you
need
an
exception
to
that
rule,
please
reach
out
to
myself
or
the
committee
manager
and
we'll
see
what
we
can
do
for
you
with
that.
A
We
are
going
to
move
on
to
our
next
item
of
business,
which
is
a
presentation
we
are
lucky.
We
are
newly
in
charge
of
the
cannabis
sections
of
the
law.
This
is
something
that
was
moved
from
the
senate
judiciary
committee
into
the
senate,
health
and
human
services
committee,
and
so
because
of
that
we
are
going
to
take
a
presentation
regarding
cannabis
and
the
cannabis
compliance
board.
As
our
opening
item,
I
would
like
to
note
for
the
public,
as
well
as
for
the
members
of
this
committee.
A
However,
I
will
note
that
the
assembly
committee
on
health
and
human
services,
which
does
have
quite
a
quite
a
few
new
members,
is
going
to
do
those
presentations.
So
if
you're,
a
member
of
the
public
or
a
member
of
this
committee
that
would
like
to
see
those
presentations,
please
feel
free
to
watch
the
assembly
meetings
to
get
caught
up
on
that
information.
A
The
only
one
we're
going
to
do
in
this
committee
is
the
cannabis
compliance
board,
and
that
is
because
we
are
new
to
this
area.
Senator
hardy
looks
like
you
have
a
question.
D
A
I
appreciate
your
support
on
that
decision
and
you
just
reminded
me
that
I
was
supposed
to
tell
you
all
is
as
we
are
going
through
this.
If
you
would
like
to
ask
a
question,
please
just
notify
me
in
the
chat
so
that
I
know
to
call
on
you,
but
I
appreciate
the
support
for
that
decision.
A
So
with
that
we
are
going
to
do
the
one
presentation
and
not
to
say
that
there
might
not
be
another
presentation
down
the
line,
but
for
the
kicking
off
of
the
session
we
do
want
to
have
a
presentation
from
the
cannabis
compliance
board.
So
I
would
like
to
welcome
tyler
klimas
he's
the
executive
director
of
the
cannabis
compliance
board
and
his
team
to
begin
their
presentation.
H
Great
thank
you
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
tyler
klimas
for
the
record
and
I
am
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada
cannabis
compliance
board.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
to
address
the
committee
today
and
give
an
overview
of
the
ccb
and
talk
about
how
this
agency
was
brought
online
over
the
past
12
months
also
talk
about
the
agency's
responsibilities
and
how
we
oversee
the
cannabis
industry
in
the
state
and
how
that
differs
from
past
iterations
of
cannabis
oversight.
H
As
you
are
all
well
aware,
we
are
a
new
state
agency
created
through
assembly
bill
533
during
the
2019
legislative
session,
cannabis
oversight.
Nevada
has
had
an
interesting
history
in
its
transition
from
the
department
of
health
and
human
services
when
medical
cannabis
was
legalized,
then
to
the
department
of
taxation
in
2017,
when
cannabis
was
legalized
for
recreational
use,
as
laid
out
in
ballot
question
2
in
2016
cannabis.
H
H
The
following
two
years,
17
to
19,
sought
share
of
issues
emerge
in
the
industry
and
for
those
that
regulate
it.
As
the
legal
cannabis
industry
took
off
the
industry,
frankly
outpaced
and
outnumbered
the
resources
and
capacity
for
what
was
the
marijuana
enforcement
division
to
appropriately
handle
what
was
fast
becoming
and
remains
today,
a
very
complicated
in
high
stakes,
industry.
The
need,
then,
for
a
new
home
for
oversight,
became
immediate,
so
assembly
bill
533
authorized
the
ccb
to
begin
as
an
agency
on
july
1st
of
2020
last
year.
H
My
position
was
authorized
to
start
on
january
1st
six
months
prior
to
begin.
The
transition
of
cannabis
oversight,
responsibilities
from
the
taxation
department
to
the
cannabis
compliance
board.
The
ccb
was
to
be
a
new
centralized
stand-alone
regulatory
body
to
oversee
the
cannabis
industry
and
work
to
mimic
how
the
nevada
gaming
control
board
regulates
gaming.
H
The
time
frame
in
place
gave
us
a
very
short
runway
to
stand
up
this
agency
and
fully
transition
oversight.
When
we
began
to
lay
the
framework
for
the
ccb,
we
immediately
faced
a
number
of
challenges.
We
inherited
a
backlog
of
open
disciplinary
cases
that
had
been
untouched.
Some
stretched
back
to
2018.
H
H
Business
transactions,
including
changes
of
ownership
and
interest,
are
now
moving
forward
again,
albeit
in
a
different
way,
with
more
detailed
requirements,
transitioning
this
oversight
body
and
clearing
the
deck
so
that
the
state
could
realize
a
fresh
start
in
cannabis.
Oversight
was
not
a
small
task.
H
So
it
is
because
of
these
efforts
that
we
have
a
great
story
to
tell
you
today
and
that
we
look
forward
to
introducing
you
to
the
ccb
and
working
with
this
committee
to
continue
efforts
to
push
this
industry
and
agency
forward
in
a
responsible
and
effective
way.
I've
got
my
incredible
staff
and
division
heads
here
with
me:
some
that
have
expertise
in
cannabis,
stretching
back
to
the
medical
days
here
in
nevada.
H
H
Great
so,
let's
begin
with
the
makeup
of
the
new
cannabis
compliance
board,
the
ccb
is
made
up
of
five
board
members
appointed
by
the
governor.
This
board
acts
as
the
final
decision
maker
for
regulatory
matters,
discipline
and
final
licensing
within
the
cannabis
industry.
The
board
is
currently
chaired
by
former
nevada
supreme
court
chief
justice,
michael
douglas.
H
The
ccb
staff
currently
authorized
at
60
ftes.
However,
with
the
number
of
positions
on
hold
for
budgetary
reductions,
acts
as
the
administrative
arm
of
the
ccb
performing
all
functions
necessary
to
carry
out
oversight
of
the
industry,
I'll
touch
on
our
agency
function.
Functions
later
in
this
presentation,
also
created
in
ab533,
was
the
cannabis
advisory
commission.
This
is
a
12
member
commission,
created
with
eight
industry,
appointments
to
act
in
an
advisory
capacity
to
provide
insight
and
non-binding
recommendations
on
regulatory
matters
to
the
board
at
the
request
of
the
board
and
executive
director.
H
H
Now,
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
nccr,
this
is
our
core
set
of
regulations
that
guide
the
nevada,
cannabis
industry.
The
nccr
consists
of
14
sections
and
is
designed
similar
in
format
to
that
of
the
state's
gaming
regulations.
You
will
see
a
common
theme
here,
as
I
reference
gaming
quite
a
bit
in
this
presentation.
H
The
original
set
of
nccrs.
This
includes
over
130
pages
of
regulations,
were
adopted
by
the
board
at
its
inaugural
july
21st
board
meeting
the
regulations
have
since
been
added
to
and
revised,
and
the
board
will
vote
to
adopt
a
second
set
of
revisions
and
additions
at
its
february
february
board
meeting
now.
That
point
is
significant,
but
because
contained
in
the
legislation
creating
the
ccv
was
the
recognition
that
the
ccb
must
have
flexibility
to
be
able
to
keep
up
with
the
pace
and
demands
of
an
industry
like
the
cannabis
industry
in
nevada.
H
Ad533
exempted
the
ccb
for
many
of
the
provisions
in
the
nevada
administrative
procedures
act,
which
means
the
board,
has
the
ability
to
adopt
regulations
and
make
changes
at
a
much
more
rapid
pace.
Again,
this
process
was
put
into
place
to
mirror
almost
identically,
that
of
gaming's
regulatory
adoption
process.
H
The
legislative
commission
still
has
authority
to
request
a
review
of
any
regulations
that
the
ccb
adopts
before
they
are
filed.
However,
our
structure,
a
sort
of
hybrid,
allows
the
board
to
meet
the
demands
of
regulating
this
industry,
as
evidenced
by
the
fact
that
we've
already
made
revisions
and
additions
in
just
our
first
few
months
of
existence.
H
This
kind
of
flexibility
is,
is
not
only
necessary,
but
it
is
crucial
and
it
allows
for
the
agency
to
remain
at
the
forefront
of
industry
regulations
and
further
help
us
achieve
and
maintain
a
gold
standard
built
into
the
nccr
is
also
the
ability
for
any
member
of
the
public
to
petition
the
board
for
a
regulation
change.
This
is
a
tool
that
ensures
the
board
remains
aware
and
can
address
any
issues
currently
happening
in
the
cannabis
industry,
either
from
a
licensee
consumer
or
the
general
public.
H
H
Our
facility
inspectors
are
all
registered
as
environmental
health
specialists,
allowing
for
in-depth
inspections
on
such
things
as
imminent
health
hazards,
safety
of
ingredients
and
final
products,
sanitation
of
facilities,
use
of
equipment
and
other
public
health
matters.
We
also
have
dedicated
lab
inspectors
in
this
division,
tasked
with
examining
nevada's
10
certified
testing
laboratories.
H
H
Finally,
we
have
a
suite
of
auditors,
whose
main
task
is
to
audit
inventory
and
tax
reports
submitted
by
our
licensees
to
ensure
what
the
licensee
is
reporting
both
in
sales
and
inventory
match
up
correctly,
with
our
seed
to
sell
tracking
system.
This
tracking
system
is
what
we
use
to
have
real-time
insight
into
all
licensees
operations
and
to
ensure
daily
compliance
in
all
products
are
legally
sourced
and
sold.
H
Next
is
our
investigations.
Division
and
this
division
is
very
new
for
cannabis
oversight
in
this
state,
as
I
referenced
at
the
beginning
that
2019
report
of
possible
foreign
influence,
in
addition
to
just
general
weaknesses
in
the
background,
investigation
and
suitability,
review
of
current
cannabis
establishment
owners
or
new
owners
entering
the
industry
by
purchasing
existing
licenses,
really
necessitated
this
wholesale
change
in
how
we
perform
background
investigations
early
in
2020
before
the
ccb
was
fully
authorized.
I
began
working
with
former
gaming
control
board
chair
sandra
douglas
morgan.
H
We
worked
on
an
arrangement
to
essentially
borrow,
if
you
will
expertise
in
the
form
of
gaming
staff
to
help
craft
our
new
investigations.
Division:
it's
a
great
story
because
that
expertise
eventually
joined
our
agency
full-time
and
now
leads
our
investigations.
Division
reimagining.
The
state's
role
in
investigating
and
vetting
potential
licensees
in
the
cannabis
industry
has
allowed
us
to
move
past
a
lot
of
those
initial
concerns
and
heartburn
that
not
only
the
governor
but
members
of
the
public
had
regarding
the
issues
that
plagued
the
prior
oversight
body.
H
The
investigations
division
now
vets
all
potential
licensees
and
affiliated
owners
officers
and
board
members.
This
work,
which
is
similar
to
gaming,
includes
now
conducting
in-person
interviews
a
full
suite
of
background
and
due
diligence,
checks
and
financial
analysis,
our
investigations,
division,
reviews
and
processes
all
transfer
of
interest
requests,
so
these
are
requests
to
either
transfer
ownership
internally
or
to
sell
ownership
to
an
outside
individual
or
company,
all
of
which
did
not
exist
before
the
ccb
took
over
in
july.
H
Finally,
our
enforcement
division
evaluates
all
complaints
made
against
the
license
facility,
including
incident
reports
that
are
filed
by
facilities
themselves.
The
enforcement
division
includes
post-certified
enforcement
agents
that
also
work
with
our
inspectors
and
auditors.
During
investigations
per
833,
all
disciplinary
investigations
are
performed
in
conjunction
with
the
nevada
attorney
general's
office.
We
have
two
spectacular
senior
deputy
attorney
generals
assigned
to
the
ccp
and
they
work
with
our
team
to
review
investigations
and
prepare
disciplinary
complaints
when
warranted
the
board
is
the
final
arbiter
in
all
disciplinary
matters
and
has
final
approval
regarding
any
settlement
agreements.
H
Our
enforcement
division
also
partners
with
local
and
law
and
state
law
enforcement
on
joint
investigations
and
information
sharing
so
now
to
provide
a
few
statistics
and
general
industry
information
and
again
we're
happy
to
answer
any
follow-up
questions
on
any
of
these.
For
some
statistics
there
are
739
total
medical
and
recreational
operational
licenses.
Statewide
many
of
these
licensed
medical
and
recreational
establishments
are
located
together.
We
call
that
co-located
but
they're
owned
by
the
same
operator.
H
H
We
do
not
regulate
hemp
or
cbd
products
produced
from
hemp,
which
you
might
find
in
smoke,
shops
or
stores
other
than
a
cannabis
sales
facility,
cannabis
tax
collection,
which
is
a
function
that
is
handled
by
the
nevada
department
of
taxation.
However,
we
work
closely
with
taxation
on
financial
audits
when
necessary
and
to
ensure
our
licensees
are
up
to
date
on
taxes
and
are
remitting
the
appropriate
amount
of
taxes.
H
H
Briefly,
I
did
want
to
give
a
an
overview
of
the
impact
of
cobit
19,
how
the
ccb
worked
through
these
challenges,
how
we
continue
to
work
through
these
challenges
and
how
they
affected
the
cannabis
industry
in
the
state
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
again,
what
still
remains
today
during
this
this
continued
crisis
is
that
covent
necessitated
a
need
for
flexibility
both
within
our
agency
and
within
the
industry.
H
H
Thus,
the
ccp
developed
a
virtual
vehicle
inspection
process
which
allowed
our
inspectors
to
inspect
virtually
delivery
vehicles
and
approve
them
to
begin
service
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time.
As
we
moved
through
the
pandemic,
we
then
developed
a
curbside
pickup
model.
This
was
something
that
was
not
available
to
licensees
before
covet
and
not
provided
for
in
the
regulations.
H
Our
ccb
agents
designed
this
curbside
model,
including
developing
the
rules
and
restrictions
licensees,
would
need
to
follow
and
again
allowed
for
retail
facilities
here
to
pivot
their
operations
further
and
meet
the
needs
of
consumers.
While,
following
our
strict
covert
guidelines,
we
also
lost
in-person
services
for
agent
registration
cards.
H
H
One
topic
which
I
believe
we
will
likely
see
is
on
consumption
lounges
in
nevada.
Obviously,
there
was
considerable
discussion
on
consumption
lounges
last
session
contained
in
ab533.
The
ccb
was
required
to
submit
a
report
on
consumption
lounges
to
the
legislature
by
january
1st
of
this
year.
I
did
include
that
report
as
supplemental
materials
for
the
committee.
H
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
on
that
report
as
well.
So
with
that
I'm
done
here
first
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
before
you'd
like
us
to
move
on
to
our
bill.
Chair,
sb,
49,.
A
All
right
great,
thank
you.
First
of
all,
just
a
great
appreciation
for
you
spending
this
amount
of
time
with
our
committee
today
and
introducing
it
to
some
for
some
of
us.
It's
a
bit.
The
material
is
a
little
bit
new,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
to
the
committee
members.
Anybody
have
any
questions.
F
A
D
A
It
thank
you
senator
hardy.
I
would
agree
it's
a
it's
a
comprehensive
presentation.
I
think
obviously
we'll
get
into
the
weeds
on
some
issues
that
become
come
before
us,
but
if
nobody
has
any
questions,
we'll
better
go
ahead
and
close
that
item
and
now
we're
going
to
open
the
hearing.
A
I
get
the
sad
thing
is.
I
can
hear
my
legislative
assistant
laughing
on
the
other
side
of
the
door,
so
you
actually
one
of
your
jokes
actually
landed.
There
senator
well
done
all
right.
Let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
open
the
hearing
on
sb49
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
you,
mr
klimas,
to
go
ahead
and
make
the
bill
presentation.
H
Thank
you,
chair
and
senator
hardy.
Thank
you
for
those
those
kind
words.
So
we're
going
to
move
on
to
sb
49
here.
This
is
our
our
single
only
cannabis
compliance
board
bill
so
far
this
session.
This
bill
is
very
much
a
housekeeping
and
cleanup
bill,
and
that
includes
the
amendment
that
we
submitted
that
I'll
talk
about
as
well.
H
When
we
had
to
submit
for
a
bdr
early
in
the
year
2000,
the
board
was
not
even
yet
fully
authorized,
so
we
really
didn't
have
the
insight
into
what
kind
of
legislative
fixes
might
be
necessary
because
we
simply
didn't
have
a
sample
set
to
go
off
of
yet
so
chair
members.
I
certainly
appreciate
the
the
opportunity
to
submit
the
additional
amendment
for
this.
It's
going
to
help
us
clean
some
additional
language
up,
so
I
don't
talk
the
whole
time.
I'm
going
to
get
my
staff
involved
in
this
presentation.
H
H
H
H
Well,
deputy
director
miles:
why
don't
you
go
for
the
first
one
and
and
see
if
any
members
of
the
committee
have
any
questions
and
we'll
just
keep
it
moving?
Thank
you.
G
Good
afternoon
I'm
michael
miles
the
deputy
director
of
the
cannabis
compliance
board
I'll
be
discussing
section
1
of
sb
49
when
we
are
requesting
the
removal
of
nevada,
revised
statute,
678-530,
section
2,
which
discusses
depositions,
but
we
have
background.
An
administrative
hearing
is
usually.
G
By
way
of
background,
the
administrative
hearing
is
usually
conducted
by
administrative
law.
Judge
involves
an
agency
like
the
ccb
and
an
individual
business
or
group
like
a
licensee
disciplinary
actions
against
licensee
are
administrative
hearings
in
nevada.
Such
hearings
are
generally
controlled
by
the
nevada
administrative
procedures
act
found
in
nrs,
chapter
233b
depositions
are
not
mentioned
or
authorized
anywhere
within
the
nevada
administrative
procedures.
Act.
Witnesses
testify
during
a
hearing.
It
can
be
examined
cross-examined
or
impeached
under
penalty
of
perjury.
G
During
the
actual
hearing,
depositions
are
time
and
resource
intensive
and
are
usually
reserved
for
district
court
actions.
Notice
must
be
given
usually
two
weeks
to
a
witness
before
deposition
can
be
taken.
A
court
reporter
must
be
retained
to
transcribe
the
depositions.
The
witness
must
be
prepared
for
a
deposition
by
attorneys,
and
then
everyone
attorneys,
witness
and
court.
Reporter
must
gather
for
the
deposition
to
be
taken.
G
G
The
difference
is
that
depositions
are
mentioned
in
nrs
678
520,
section
2..
The
board
would
like
this
section
removed
from
the
statute.
As
a
board
is
concerned
about
the
time
and
resources
expended
for
this
procedure.
The
administrative
law
judge
would
still
have
the
authority
to
allow
a
deposition,
but
this
could
be
limited
to
certain
situations
such
as
when
a
witness
cannot
attend
a
hearing,
for
whatever
reason.
H
Thank
you,
chair
chief
staley,.
I
I
The
additional
language
requested
for
nrs
678b340
simply
references
the
ability
already
provided
by
678,
a
450
which
only
addresses
regulations
in
general
and
includes
it
in
statute
that
specifically
addresses
the
registration
card
requirement.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
additional
additional
questions,.
D
D
Does
it
allow
people
to
potentially
get
out
of
being
identified
as
a
owner
volunteer
work
at
contract
with
if
they
own
or
have
less
than
a
five
percent
rule?
What
what
are
you
looking
to
do?
That's
new
and
different
that
wasn't
there
before.
I
Senator
harvey
through
chair
ready
the
request
that
we
have
before
you
really
doesn't
provide
for
us
to
do
anything
new.
We
felt
that
there
could
be
potential
confusion
because
the
language
provided
in
678b
340,
we,
the
the
board,
did
in
fact
use
to
craft
the
waiver
regulations
that
we
have
in
place.
I
What
we're
doing
is
merely
moving
that
language
from
678
a
450
duplicating
it
and
putting
it
in
678
b
340,
so
that
it's
more
clear
that
the
board
has
the
opportunity
to
promulgate
regulations
that
provide
the
ability
to
waive
the
requirement
for
agent
cards
for
folks
with
less
than
five
percent
did.
I
I
believe
you
also
wanted
me
to
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
what
that
entails.
C
I
Our
regulations
require
that
we
do
a
background
investigation
on
every
individual
owner
and
that
they
get
an
agent
card,
registering
them
with
the
ccp
for
their
ownership
of
the
company
with
most
companies.
That's
not
a
big
deal
because
they
have
four
or
five
different
owners.
So
it's
very
possible
for
us
to
do
a
background
investigation
on
all
those
individuals,
and
it's
really
not
an
onerous
process
on
the
industry,
either
with
the
various
publicly
traded
companies
we
have
and
some
of
the
private
companies
that
have
many
investors.
I
There
are
a
whole
bunch
of
investors
that
really
have
no
control
or
involvement
in
the
operations
of
the
cannabis
establishment.
For
instance,
we
have
some
closely
held
private
companies
where
one
of
the
owners
gave
a
share
to
aunt
ethel
in
idaho.
Well,
ann
ethel
really
has
no
involvement
in
the
running
of
the
cannabis
establishment.
I
So
if
a
company
is
able
to
first
make
a
request
for
a
waiver
pursue
it
to
either
nccr
5.112
or
5.125
and
they're
able
to
provide
us
with
information,
proving
that
these
less
than
five
percent
shareholders
are
not
involved
in
control
or
operation
of
the
company.
This
gives
us
some
leeway
to
allow
those
individuals
not
to
go
through
the
agent
card
process
extrapolating
a
little
bit
further.
When
you
have
a
publicly
traded
company
that
may
have
thousands
of
shareholders.
I
Such
a
requirement
is
onerous
and,
in
fact,
restricts
the
ability
of
the
publicly
traded
company
to
have
its
shares
traded
on
a
daily
basis.
Without
such
a
waiver,
somebody
that
wanted
to
buy
10
shares
today,
because
the
shares
were
going
up
and
sell
them
tomorrow,
simply
wouldn't
be
able
to,
because
our
regulations
would
normally
require
their
licensure.
I
I
So
we
won't
be
adding
any
new
regulations
and
in
fact,
we're
really
not
adding
anything
new
to
the
statute,
we're
simply
duplicating
the
language
already
in
statute
and
moving
it
to
areas
where
it
helps
clarify
any
questions.
There
may
be
under
678
a
678
b
340,
but
we
we
already
have
the
waivers
in
place.
I
I
believe
they
would
have
been
approved
by
our
board
at
its
july.
21
2020
board
meeting
and
we
have.
The
board-
has
already
approved
some
of
those
waivers
both
for
specific
individuals
on
closely
held
companies
and
for
larger
numbers
of
shareholders
for
publicly
traded
companies.
D
I
Well,
if,
if
a
company,
it
will
do
nothing
unless
the
company
applies
for
a
waiver
first
right
now
and
ethel
is
required
to
submit
fingerprints
and
go
through
our
background
investigation
to
get
an
agent
card,
even
though
she's
never
even
been
to
the
cultivation
production
in
henderson,
nevada
or
trump.
I
If
the
board
approves
that
waiver,
then
anne
ethel
does
not
need
to
get
an
agent
card
and
she
does
not
need
to
submit
the
her
fingerprints
for
a
background
investigation,
because
the
her
she
has
no
ability
to
influence
the
operations
of
the
cannabis
establishment,
and
we
look
very
closely
at
the
concept
of
control
and
the
ability
for
somebody
to
be
involved
in
control.
That
would
not
be
suitable
under
the
requirements
of
our
regulations
and
statutes.
D
So
if
anne
athel
got
one
percent
and
and
ethel's
22
grandchildren,
43
great-grandchildren
equally
got
1,
this
regulation
would
allow
each
one
of
them
not
to
be
investigated
not
to
be
fingerprinted
and
then
you'd.
Look
at
by
the
time
the
42,
grandchildren
and
20
23
grandchildren
42
great-grandchildren
each
had
one
percent.
They
would
have
a
controlling
interest
and
analytical
would
basically
have
control.
I
Well
in
and
your
question
provides
the
evidence
of
control,
so
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
look
at
is
that
familial
ownership
or
ownership
from
a
husband
and
a
and
a
wife
or
husband,
or
a
ownership
through
a
family
like
that.
I
In
addition,
through
the
audits
that
our
audit
division
does
and
through
the
investigations
that
we
do
during
a
transfer
of
interest
or
to
ti
application,
our
investigators
and
agents
are
looking
for
hidden
ownership,
they're
looking
for
people
who
may
be
exerting
control
that
don't
have
an
ancient
card.
So
I
would
expect
that
the
likelihood
of
anybody
exerting
any
significant
control
over
the
operations
of
a
company
we
would-
and
we
have
both
within
the
statutes
and
the
regulations
to
call
them
forward
at
the
board's
discretion.
I
No
sir,
we
have
not
yet
most
I'm
going
to
say
that
the
board
has
approved,
maybe
seven
or
eight
waivers
at
this
point.
I
In
all
cases,
the
company
provided
us
with
information
indicating
that
either
the
individual
that
they
were
waiving
for
or
a
group
of
individuals
did
not
have
an
element
of
control
over
the
company
and
the
agent's
independent
review
of
company
records,
which
includes
asking
the
company
to
provide
us
additional
information
a
lot
of
times.
Those
kinds
of
disclosures
will
be
included
in
their
audited
financial
statements
with
the
canadian
securities
exchange
or
with
the
united
states
securities
exchange
commission.
I
They
tested
the
attestations
of
the
licensee
and
were
able
to
find
that
it
did
not
appear
that
any
of
the
individuals
that
would
be
affected
by
that
waiver
would
have
any
level
of
control
which
would
have
necessitated
an
agent.
D
So
if
you
depend
on
the
company
to
tell
you
things
and
then
you
investigate
based
on
what
they
tell
you,
what
what
is,
what
are
the
consequences
if
the
company
lies
to
you
and
they
did
have
some
control.
I
That
a
question
of
consequences
would
need
to
go
in
our
board.
Members
are
the
the
individuals
that
make
those
kinds
of
decisions.
If
we
determined
that
there
were
individuals
that
were
in
a
control
position,
but
that
had
tried
to
circumvent
our
agent
card
requirements,
we
would
identify
those
the
circumstances
likely.
I
We
would
do
a
personal
interview
both
with
them
and
with
the
other
executives,
and
then
that
information
would
be
provided
to
our
board
under
an
areas
of
concern
section
in
our
investigative
report,
in
which
we
would
lay
out
all
the
facts
that
we
were
able
to
ascertain.
It
would
not
surprise
me
that
we'll
find
cases
where
the
individual
exerted
a
level
of
control
without
submitting
the
agent
card
application.
I
I
I
I
A
Actually,
I
have
a
question,
but
before
I
go,
is
there
any
other
questions
on
this
topic
from
any
other
members
of
the
committee
right?
So
I
understand
that
this
is,
is
general
generally
just
clarity,
and
so
not
necessarily
speaking
to
the
content
of
the
change.
I
just
am
curious,
given
dr
hardy's
lines
of
questioning.
A
What's
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum,
we
talked
a
lot
about
ant
ethel,
but
what
about
a
public
publicly
held
corporation,
where
I
technically
have
an
ownership
interest,
because
I'm
a
stockholder
don't
have
control.
But
how
do
you?
How
do
you
decide
within
a
large
publicly
held
corporation
who
has
to
I
want
to
have
this
kind
of
screening.
I
Chair
brady,
this
is
dave
staley
for
the
record.
The
publicly
traded
companies,
both
under
the
canadian
stock
exchange
and
the
sec
have
certain
reporting
requirements
in
which
they
have
to
make
public
disclosure
on
an
annual
basis,
and
then
the
individuals
in
many
cases
have
to
make
disclosures
when
they
acquire
certain
levels
of
shares.
I
The
statutes
that
we
operate
under
provide
a
under
five
percent
threshold
and
a
five
percent
and
over
threshold.
Currently,
the
waivers
that
we
have
adopted
pursue
by
regulation,
allow
us
to
waive
the
requirement
that
an
under
five
percent
individual,
if
they
indicate
or
if
they
prove
that
they're
not
in
a
controlled
position,
may
assess
the
waiver.
I
Anybody
over
five
percent,
five
percent
or
over
automatically
is
required
to
get
a
cannabis
executive
card
and
we
do
not
have
a
waiver
ability
for
them
to
waive
that
requirement.
Keep
in
mind
that
in
a
large,
publicly
traded
company,
a
five
5
position
would
be
a
significant
position
and
is
somewhat
uncommon
in
publicly
traded
companies.
I
While
a
5
position
may
not
give
them
control
or
in
the
case
of
an
institutional
investor,
they
may
not
want,
or
they
may
disclose,
that
it's
for
a
investment
purpose
only
and
they
will
not
be
exerting
any
control.
The
statues
have
determined
that
that
threshold
is
five
percent.
I
So
we
automatically
assume
that
because
of
the
potential
for
con
or
a
controlling
position
or
an
influencing
position
exists
at
a
five
percent
threshold
or
above
any
individual
or
company,
with
an
ownership
of
five
percent
of
or
above,
is
required
to
get
an
agent
card,
and
our
board
can
call
that
company
forward
as
well.
If
they
conclude
that
it
should
be
licensed
as
like
an
owner
or
a
licensor
as
an
acquisition
of
control.
I
We
have
in
in
that
case,
if
you're,
I'm
sorry
chair,
ready
david
staley
for
the
record
in
the
case
of
a
large
institutional
investor
or
we're
now
seeing
investment
funds
or
other
areas
that
or
other
entities
that
have
pulled
the
investment
ability
of
many.
I
Typically,
in
the
case
of
a
fund
or
in
a
investment
company
that
operates
a
couple,
different
funds,
they'll
have
fund
managers
or
they
will
have
id
executives
identified
that
manage
or
run
the
investing
activities
of
the
company
and
are
responsible
for
those
investments.
If
that's
the
case,
they're
identified
by
the
company
for
us
and
we
require
that
the
fund
or
the
institutional
investors
provide
us
with
an
understanding
of
how
decisions
are
made
for
the
fund
and
the
individuals
that
can
make
those
decisions
are
required
to
have
an
asian
card.
I
And
if
I,
if
I
may,
for
briefly,
these
concepts
mirror
the
best
practices
of
the
gaming
control
board,
while
our
statutes
and
regulations
are
are
not
as
detailed
or
as
far-reaching.
I
It
was
very
important
to
us
that
we
look
to
the
premises
and
the
concepts
of
control
and
and
the
the
basic
premise
of
regulation
by
the
gaming
control
board
and
we're
we're
basically
taking
those
best
practices
and
using
them
for
the
cannabis
industry.
I
Our
regulatory
framework
does
mirror
gaming,
it's
not
as
expansive.
For
instance,
gaming
control
board
has
separate
regulations
for
limited
liability
companies
and
corporations
and
publicly
traded
companies.
When
we
crafted
our
regulations
pursuant
to
statute,
we
did
not.
J
J
Nrs670V5
addresses
the
requirements
for
packaging
and
labeling
of
cannabis,
products
that
are
offered
for
sale.
Current
language
states
that
all
cannabis
products
that
are
offered
for
sale
must
be
labeled
clearly
and
unambiguously
with
the
words.
This
is
a
medical
cannabis
product
and
this
is
a
cannabis
product.
The
proposed
changes
are
for
all
cannabis.
Products
that
are
offered
for
sale
must
be
labeled
clearly
and
I'm
unambiguously
with
the
words
this
product
contains
cannabis.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
stephen
gilbert,
for
the
record,
so
we
are
allowing
the
industry
to
work
through
the
existing
labels.
We
are
going
to
be
looking
at
given
on
the
time
time
frame
to
work
through
those
those
labels
if
they
already
have
printed
them
or
have
packaging
that
they
must
change
through.
A
I'm
just
smiling
a
little
bit
because
it
feels
a
little
bit
like
you
all,
have
a
lot
more
flexibility
to
get
some
things
done
than
perhaps
some
other
agencies
that
we
are
accustomed
to
dealing
with,
where
there
might
need
to
be
a
little
more
clarity
in
either
the
lar
either
the
nrs
or
nac.
Am
I
reading
that
wrong.
J
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Maybe
this
isn't
actually
a
real
problem,
but
by
removing
the
difference
in
labeling
between
medical,
cannabis
and
just
regular
cannabis
product
would
this
inhibit?
Let's
say
police
enforcement's
ability
to
know
someone
has
a
medical
product,
although
they
don't
have
a
medical
card.
J
Steve
gilbert
for
the
record
for
you,
madam
chair
to
the
senator
senator
harris.
No,
would
not
so
how
how
cannabis
is
cultivated
and
labeled
up
to
the
point
of
sales,
it's
labeled
as
a
single
source
and
that
product
is
designated
as
medical
or
adult
use
at
that
point
of
sale.
So
if
a
patient
was
questioned
on
the
canvas
that
they
have
in
their
possession,
they
should
have
their
their
medical
marijuana
registration
card
also
available
to
show
that
it
is
legal
to
have
in
their
possession
as
medical
for
possession
purposes.
J
Steve
go
for
the
record
through
the
united
chair
to
senator.
If
I
understand
your
question
correctly,
if,
if
that
product
was
at
a
medical
grade
level
for
possession
limits,
the
possession
limits
for
for
cannabis
as
a
whole
would
be
well.
One
ounce
purchase
amounts
are
required
are
allowed,
whereas
in
the
medical
medical
side
two
and
a
half
ounces
are
allowed
in
for
possession.
E
A
Yeah,
not,
I
think,
just
some
clarity
on
that
is
important,
just
so
that
we
have
it
on
the
record.
So
all
products
that
contain
cannabis
can
be
used
as
either
adult
use
or
medical
use,
but
there
are
a
small
subsection
of
products
that
can
only
be
used
as
medical
use
because
of
the
concentration
within
that
product.
Is
that
correct.
A
H
Klamas
great,
thank
you,
so
I
will
talk
through
now.
The
amendment
and
I
just
want
to
say
we
apologize.
Some
of
our
staff
is
from
home,
are
working
from
home
or
or
participating
from
home.
We
had
some
covert
issues
in
our
carson
office
this
week,
so
thank
you
for
bearing
with
us
on
that
as
well.
So
I
will
go
through
the
amendment
and
this
amendment
that
we
submitted
includes
language
to
provide
for
additional
flexibility,
to
extend
the
45-day
requirement
for
the
ccb
to
hold
a
hearing
after
a
licensee
answers.
H
The
complaints,
in
some
cases,
especially
in
in
complicated
disciplinary
matters
45
days,
may
not
be
enough
time
for
either
sides
to
gather
the
resources
together
to
hold
an
appropriate
hearing.
H
Currently,
the
way
the
statute
is
written,
the
board
has
to
vote
blindly
on
approving
service
of
a
complaint
as
a
procedural
matter.
They
don't
get
to
see
the
complaint
or
know
who
the
complaint
is
issued
against.
They
just
know
that
the
ccb
and
the
attorney
general's
office
recommended
that
it
be
filed.
So
frankly,
it
becomes
an
onerous
process
that
is
not
a
good
use
of
ford
staff
or
the
ag's
time.
H
The
chair
and
other
board
members
have
made
this
point
known
at
our
first
board
meetings
on
the
record,
so
this
simply
allows
for
the
executive
director
to
serve
the
complaint
and
does
not
change
any
part
of
the
process
thereafter
and
finally,
the
third
section
allows
for
the
board
to
employ
additional
services
to
assist
in
disciplinary
proceedings
when
necessary.
H
This
is
a
part-time
board,
and
so
the
board
needs
at
two
at
times
utilize.
The
services
of
an
administrative
law
judge
in
certain
disciplinary
matters.
This
keeps
the
hearing
process
moving
and
is
kind
of
critical
to
allow
the
sport
to
keep
an
appropriate
pace
in
its
oversight
responsibilities.
H
So
with
that,
that's
that's
the
amendment
that
we
submitted.
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
on
on
any
part
of
the
amendment.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
have
a
question
about
the
extension
of
the
45-day
hearing
requirement.
Can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
why
you
chose
to?
I
guess,
give
the
board
the
ability
to
extend
that
infinitely
as
opposed
to
simply
giving
yourselves
more
time
to
do
them
all
right.
So,
instead
of
45
days,
why
don't
we
just
change
it
to
90
or
120.
H
So,
and
and
share
you
through
your
chair
to
the
senator
and
senator,
I
hope
I
I
don't
get
a
call
about
this
later,
but
our
our
chair
of
the
board
is
former
supreme
court
chief
justice
michael
douglas,
and
when
a
former
supreme
court
chief
justice
is
is
comfortable
with
the
request
rather
than
extending
the
date.
And
honestly
I
say
that
in
chess,
but
really
it's
it's
to
not
extend
that
process.
H
E
And
would
you
be
willing
to
consider
putting
some
type
of
constraints
around
the
board
so
that
people
know
I
at
least
have
the
right
to
have
this
heard
within
a
certain
time
right,
because
if
the
extensions
can
be
continually
granted,
then
you
actually
never
know
how
long
it
might
take.
You
have
no
guarantee
anymore,
the
45
days
kind
of
becomes
irrelevant.
H
Yeah,
I
I
certainly
understand
what
you're
saying
I
think
we
could
probably
look
to
put
some
guidelines
if
that
gives
you
a
greater
comfort
level,
but
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
you
apply
for
an
extension.
The
chair
grants
a
certain
amount.
You
know.
H
Certainly
the
option
would
be
to
continually
grant
that
extension,
but
I
I
don't
believe
that
would
be
the
intent
and
I
don't
think
that
works
out
well
for
the
board
staff
or
or
licensees
in
that
matter.
So
I
I
would
hope
that
that
practice
wouldn't
be
common,
and
I
can
tell
you
at
least
with
this
chair,
senator
harris.
It
would
not
be
common.
H
A
You
and
I'm
just
reading
a
message
from
staff,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
want
to
get
clarity
on
this
issue
as
well.
The
board
wouldn't
extend
nor
staff
extent
requested
an
extension.
The
requests
for
an
extension
only
come
from
the
petitioner.
Isn't
that
correct.
H
No,
it
would
come
so
it
could
come
either
from
like
our
deputy
attorney
general's
or
the
licensee
that
it
was
issued
right.
A
A
All
right,
mr
climus,
if
you
and
your
team
would
hang
around
we'll,
have
public
testimony
just
in
case
there's
any
clarifications
that
come
out
of
that.
I
would
also
just
like
to
note
based
on
something
that
you
said.
This
is
the
health
and
human
services
community
committee
and,
as
my
as
I
will
speak
for
myself
as
chair,
we
are
not
in
any
way
discouraged
by
the
fact
or
upset
by
the
fact
that
folks
are
working
from
home.
A
We
would
like
to
see
very
strict
adherence
to
the
guidance
for
the
pandemic
and
the
more
people
who
can
work
from
home
and
not
work
jointly
in
the
same
office
in
a
pandemic,
the
better
so
just
for
anybody
who's.
Listening
to
this
committee
hearing,
I
don't
want
to
leave
anybody
with
the
impression
that,
if
you're
working
from
home
that's
going
to
be
a
problem
for
us,
particularly
our
state
agency
staff.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
Okay,
let's
go
ahead.
A
I'm
gonna
close
the
nope,
I'm
not
quite
closing
the
hearing,
yet
I'm
gonna
move
to
public
testimony,
and
so
since
this
is
our
first
effort
with
public
testimony,
I'd
like
to
remind
the
public
there's
two
different
ways
that
you
would
be
participating
in
a
committee
hearing
here
at
the
legislature,
there's
public
testimony
where
you're
speaking
specifically
to
this
bill.
This
is
not
public
comment.
The
intent
here
is
that
you
are
coming
forward
under
either
support
or
opposition
or
neutral.
A
What
I
would
ask
is
that
you
listen
closely
to
the
instructions
of
our
broadcast
staff,
who
will
be
telling
you
what
buttons
to
push
to
get
into
q,
to
make
sure
that
you
end
up
in
the
right
category
of
support,
opposition
or
neutral,
that's
important
when
we're
creating
the
record
for
the
hearing
of
this
bill.
There
will
be
additionally
at
the
end
of
this
meeting,
an
opportunity
for
public
comment.
That
is
the
time
when
the
public
can
comment
on
anything
that
they
want.
A
We
hope
it's
related
to
the
work
of
the
senate,
health
and
human
services
committee,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
on
this
bill
so
again.
This
is
the
time
to
listen
to
the
directions.
If
you
want
to
testify
specifically
on
sb49
eps,
if
you
could
go
ahead
and
open
that
up.
K
K
Chair
does
not
look
like
any
of
our
callers
are
wishing
to
testify
in
a
support
stance
for
the
bill.
K
K
A
K
My
apologies
chair,
that's
okay,
once
again,
caller
with
the
last
three
digits
of
seven
two
eight,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record
and
you
may.
K
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record,
this
is
marla:
mcdade
williams,
m-a-r-l-a
mcdade,
capital
d,
a
d
e
williams,
w
I
l
l.
I
a
m
s.
I'm
calling
today,
I'm
with
strategies
360.,
and
I
wanted
to
comment
on
section,
two
subsections,
one
and
four
and
the
issue
of
the
five
percent
or
less
ownership,
as
it
relates
to
the
mandatory
language
and
the
required
registration
or
application.
L
So
these
provisions
apply
to
any
owner
officer
or
board
member,
and,
if
I
understand
correctly,
the
mandatory
language
is
intended
to
have
these
provisions
applied
to
publicly
traded
companies.
We
believe
the
language
may
be
appropriate
for
an
individual
person,
who's
an
owner
officer
or
board
member,
but
it
may
be
insufficient
for
a
publicly
traded
company.
L
F
L
You
noted
the
individual,
you
know
that
can
be
accommodated,
but
when
you
get
to
something
much
different
than
that
model,
we
just
believe
that
the
statutory
framework
should
be
set
up
so
that
it's
very
clear
on
how
those
things
move
forward.
K
K
C
Good
late
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
stephen
cohen,
for
the
record
stephen,
with
a
b
cohen
c-o-h-e-n,
as
in
madame
assembly,
woman,
no
relation,
however,
that
we
know
of
picking
up
where
the
previous
speaker
had
left
off
the
issue
of
jurisdictions,
legalizing
it
but
legalizing
cannabis
marijuana.
However,
we
want
to
classify
it,
but
it
being
federally
illegal,
creates
a
policy
concern
when
particularly
state
agencies
are
primarily
federally
funded
because
under
a
supremacy
analysis,
they
have
to
defer
a
federal
law.
C
For
example,
about
two
weeks
ago,
I
was
under
consideration
for
a
couple
of
days
for
an
accounting
position
in
the
cannabis
industry
through
a
staffing
agency,
and
essentially,
what
would
have
come
out
of
a
legal
request
would
have
been
that
the
policy
manual
clause
would
be
all-inclusive.
In
other
words,
I
would
have
required
a
background
check,
licensing,
etc
in
order
to
continue
employment,
if
I
had
ultimately
been
selected,
but
the
licensing
which
is
merely
to
pick
up
paperwork
and
take
it
back
across
the
street.
C
As
I
understood
it
from
the
staffing
agency,
recruiter
can
get
expensive
and
when
the
company
waits
till
the
last
minute
to
do
their
1099s
and
w2s,
sometimes
folks
don't
have
that
kind
of
money
laying
around
rather
than
send
an
entire
273-page
manual.
As
an
example,
I'd
like
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
get
you
just
a
copy
of
the
one
section
where
this
is
promulgated
as
an
example-
and
I
could
probably
have
that
to
committee
staff
at
some
point
tomorrow
with
that.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
yield.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
megan.
Thank
you,
mr
cohen.
I
appreciate
your
testimony
and
for
you
and
for
anybody
else
who
is
listening,
just
we're
going
to
keep
reinforcing
this
there's
an
email
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
appropriate
place
to
submit
anything
that
you
would
like
to
have
the
committee
to
have
as
part
of
the
public
record
with
that
we'll
go
back
to
bps
anymore.
Testimony
under
neutral.
A
Great
so
with
that,
mr
klimas,
if
I
could
ask
sounds
like
we
have
a
stakeholder
interested
in
a
talking
to
you
about
an
amendment,
no
no
judgment,
it's
day,
four
of
the
legislative
session
and
we're
all
just
getting
started
here.
Actually
I
give
you
credit
for
drawing
the
short
straw
and
having
the
first
bill,
which
meant
that
you
caught
us
on
a
day
that
we
had
a
lot
of
time
and
lots
of
energy
around
questions
on
what
was
mostly
a
technical
bill.
A
So
thank
you
for
being
our
guinea
pig,
but
I
would
ask
that
you
connect
with
the
caller
under
opposition
and
just
see
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
accommodate
what
they're
looking
for
at
least
be
prepared
to
come
back
to
the
committee
and
and
help
us
out
with
that
issue.
A
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
sb,
49
and
open
up
public
comic
bps.
Is
there
anybody
on
the
line
for
public
comment.
A
Great
and
I
should
say
under
public
comment,
we
are
going
to
limit
it
to
two
minutes,
so
miss
kamasi.
If
you
would
keep
time
for
us.
K
L
A
Thank
you,
we're
glad
you're
pleased
so
with
that
any
other
members
of
public
health,
bps.
A
Okay,
I'm
megan.
I
didn't
sail
past
possible
committee,
bdr
introductions.
I
don't
believe
we
have
any
at
this
point.
Nope
sounds
like
we
do
not
all
right
with
that.
Then
we
are
at
the
end
of
this
meeting.
I
appreciate
everybody's
participation
and
our
next
meeting
will
be
on
tuesday
february
9th.
We
will
be
hearing
we're
we're,
anticipating,
hearing
two
bills
that
have
been
brought
forward
by
the
regional
behavioral
health
policy
boards
that
were
established
in
the
2017
legislative
session.
A
I
believe
that's
sb,
69
and
sp
70,
if
I
remember
correctly
so,
assuming
everything
stays
on
track
with
those
two
bills,
just
to
give
everybody
a
heads
up.
That
will
be
the
next
two
issues
that
will
be
focused
on
on
february
9th
scheduled
for
3
30
on
that
tuesday.