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A
All
right,
the
time
on
my
clock
shows
1
pm,
so
we
will
now
open
up
the
senate
judiciary
committee
meeting
on
tuesday
february
9th.
We
have
two
bills
to
hear
today,
both
from
our
friends
at
the
nevada
department
of
corrections,
as
we
did
yesterday
and
we'll
be
doing
from
now
on.
We
will
start
with
roll
call
of
senators
who
are
present.
As
other
senators
arrive.
I
will
ask
that
the
secretary
mark
them
present
and
I
will
also
keep
you
guys
updated
as
the
meeting
progresses
on
other
senators
who
have
joined
us.
A
D
A
Here,
thank
you
so
much
and
with
that
we
are
ready
to
open
up
the
first
hearing
on
our
first
bill,
which
is
sb
20..
I
understand
that
we
have
with
us
today
from
the
nevada
department
of
corrections.
Mr
charles
daniels,
harold
wickham,
miss
jennifer
ray,
miss
deborah
striplin
and
robin
I'm.
So
sorry,
I'm
not
sure
if
I
got
all
those
names
right,
but
as
always,
I
do
ask
that
you
please
identify
yourself
before
you
speak
both
at
the
presentation
and
during
the
question
and
answer
portions
of
the
meeting.
A
So
if
we
could
have
the
presenters
for
sb
20
go
ahead
and
introduce
themselves
and
give
us
an
overview
of
the
bill,
please,
I
will
now
open
the
hearing.
E
Good
afternoon
tamara
scheible,
this
is
director
charles
daniels
of
the
nevada
department
of
corrections.
Thank
you
for
allowing
the
ndoc
to
present
testimony
to
the
senate
judiciary
committee.
E
The
very
first
item
I
would
like
to
discuss
with
the
sv20.
It's
also
referenced
in
nrs
178,
a
.160
and
it's
sexual
assault,
survivors
bill
of
rights,
and
it
was
initiated
in
the
80th
session
176
enacting
sexual
abuse.
I'm
sorry,
sexual
assault,
survivors
bill
of
rights,
ab176
was
an
act.
Primary
presenters
in
this
will
be
several
members
of
my
staff,
primarily
harold
wickham,
who
is
a
deputy
director
of
programs
in
our
secondary,
would
be
jennifer.
Wray
nrs
does
not
in
any
way
address
the
barriers
or
safety
and
security
risks.
E
This
legislation
poses
to
the
department
of
corrections
to
follow
for
incarcerated
survivors.
The
goal
is
to
continue
to
use
the
federally
imposed
prison
rate,
elimination
act,
standards
intended
to
address
all
policy
and
procedures
related
to
incarcerated
survivors
of
sexual
assault,
rather
than
imposed
legislation
which
is
geared
to
survivors
in
the
community.
E
A
Have
all
right,
I
know
that
I
have
a
few
questions.
I
also
see
that
senator
harris
has
raised
her
hand.
I
will
let
senator
harris
go
first.
F
How
gracious
of
you
chair
scheibel?
Thank
you
so
much
so
I
I
have
a
question
how
many
incidents
of
sexual
assault
occur
in
endoc
per.
E
Year
hi,
this
is
director
daniels.
We
do
happen
to
have
subject
matter
experts.
I
believe
one
of
them
is
suffering
through
some
technical
difficulties.
So
we're
going
to
try
to
answer
that
through
individuals
that
are
here
until
we
can
get
the
other
individual
on.
Is
there
anyone
here?
That
knows
that
I'll
talk
to
them.
E
If
I
may,
first
of
all,
thank
you
again
for
the
question.
This
is
director
daniels
once
again
we're
struggling
with
some
technical
difficulties
of
our
subject
matter.
Experts
in
the.
E
In
the
northern
office,
so
if
I
may
I'm
going
to
ask,
if
maybe
we
could
defer
to
sb
32
until
we
can
get
the
appropriate
individuals
available
to
answer
all
of
the
questions.
E
Hi,
this
is
director
daniels
again,
a
chairman
scheible.
Yes,
the
individuals
that
were
responsible
for
us,
the
20
are
currently
up
north
and
we
have
people
working
with
them,
trying
to
get
that
that
worked
out.
So,
if
begging
your
pardon,
if
we
could
transition.
D
E
That,
oh
well,
chairman
scheible,
I
apologize.
It
appears
that
they're
actually
able
to
now
make
contact.
I
heard
his
voice,
so
deputy
director
wickham.
There
has
been
a
question
posed
to
the
department
of
corrections
specific
to
sb20
and
if
the
person
who
asked
the
question
I
apologize
for
not
jotting
down
your
name,
would
we
ask
the
question
we
can
now
answer
your
questions,
senator
harris,
I
apologize.
B
A
A
F
F
G
Good
afternoon
for
the
record,
harold,
wickham
deputy
director
of
programs
for
the
department
of
corrections,
thank
you
for
the
question
through
the
chair
to
the
honorable
senator
harris
again.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
F
And
thank
you
so
much
for
that,
mr
wickham.
What
particular
provisions,
if
you,
if
you
don't
mind,
running
us
through
it
of
the
sexual
assault
bill
of
rights
survivors
bill
of
rights,
is
particularly
difficult
for,
for
you
all
to
add
here
too.
G
G
It
would
make
the
community
less
safe
if
an
offender,
let's
say-
and
I
and
I
hate
to
use
all
these
what-if
scenarios,
but
typically
some
offenders
might
decide
to
manipulate
the
system
and
if
they
wanted
to
use
an
advocate,
anybody
of
their
choosing,
let's
just
say,
they'd-
show
somebody
on
death
row
that
wanted
to
escape
really
bad.
I
mean
the
potential
is
there
or
if
they
chose
somebody
who
could
have
been
a
victim
that
they
victimized
it
would,
it
would
certainly
hinder
the
victim's
ability
to
testify
or
to
report
the
incident
accurately.
G
G
For
the
record,
harold
wickham,
yes
ma'am,
I
I
agree
with
you
on
that,
but
we're
trying
to
do
everything
we
can
to
minimize
any
safety
and
security
risk.
And
again,
as
I
stated,
the
prayer
requirements
covers
anybody,
that's
within
the
facility,
so
it
gives
them
basically
the
same
bill
of
rights
as
the
state
bill
of
rights
under
the
federal
prio
mandates.
E
This
is
director
daniels
for
the
record
senator
harris.
May
I
address
your
question
if
the
chair
will
allow.
E
All
right,
thank
you
for
taking
the
question.
My
response
to
that
question
is
that
we
lose
the
autonomy
that
we
typically
have
when
allowing
individuals
that
are
incarcerated
to
have
representation.
Typically,
our
representation
would
come
from
a
legal
entity
from
outside
of
the
operation
and
or
from
individuals
within
the
within
the
agency.
E
The
victim
or
alleged
victim
could
ask
to
have
anyone
come
in
that
they
wanted,
and
not
that
everyone
would
comment
even
if
they
wanted
to,
but
we
certainly
would
not
have
the
ability
to
say
otherwise,
unless
we
could
prove
that
that
individual
would
be
would
not
be
suitable.
Then
that
would
include
former
inmates
and
anyone
else
that
could
be
involved
or
we're
monitoring
for
continuing
criminal
activity
or
otherwise
being
monitored.
E
We
would,
just,
quite
frankly,
lose
the
ability
to
have
an
impact
on
who
comes
into
our
our
facilities,
which
is
why
we
would
prefer
to
continue
to
fall
under
the
auspices
of
the
of
the
prison
rape,
elimination
act,
which
is
better
known
as
priya,
because
it
does
afford
us
the
ability
to
mitigate
who
comes
in
if
we
believe
there
to
be
an
issue.
F
Thank
you,
I
I
appreciate
all
of
your
responses
and
I
would
just
encourage
you
all
to
find
ways
to
make
it
a
bit
more
feasible
or
at
least
ask
us
for
ways
to
make
it
a
bit
more
feasible
to
to
give
these
prisoners
the
same
rights
as
opposed
to
seeking
a
straight
up
exemption.
Thank
you
cheers.
A
Or
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
at
this
point,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
ask
my
questions.
A
My
first
question
has
to
do
with
priya
and
how
the
implementation
of
the
sexual
assault
survivors
bill
of
rights
has
somehow
removed
endoc
from
the
auspice
of
priya,
because
it
sounds
like
you
said
that
priya
would
stop
applying
when
the
sexual
assault
survivor's
bill
of
rights
applies,
whereas
I
had
assumed
that
you
that
endoc
was
required
to
meet
the
requirements
of
both.
Am
I.
H
Oh
for
the
record,
my
name
is
deborah
striplin,
I'm
the
agency
priya
coordinator
for
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
under
the
prison
rape,
illumination
act
standards,
we're
all
mandatory
reporters
and
under
the
victims,
bill
of
rights.
It
allows
or
affords
a
victim
in
the
community
to
not
have
their
report
provided
to
law
enforcement.
H
B
H
The
prison
rape
elimination
act
standards.
We
have
multiple
provisions
that
we
follow
to
ensure
that
we're
addressing
our
victims.
Accordingly,
we
do
have
criminal
investigators
assigned
to
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
who
conduct
our
criminal
investigations
under
the
bill
of
rights.
It
affords
the
victim
to
choose
the
gender
of
the
investigator.
H
F
H
We
do
have
we
all
of
our
inmates
are
transported
out
to
local
hospitals.
Victim
advocates
will
respond
to
be
there
to
support
our
victims
during
the
sexual
assault,
forensic
exam,
and
at
that
time
they
will
meet
with
the
victims
and
be
there
to
support
them.
We
will
bring
the
inmates
back
and
have
that
ongoing
medical
care
for
them.
Upon
return,
we
ensure
that
they
are
no
longer
around
the
aggressor
and
we
then
will
start
the
investigation
at
that
time.
H
Inmates
under
the
prison,
rape,
elimination,
act
upon
completion
of
an
investigation
are
notified
of
the
outcome
of
the
investigation
to
include
if
the
inmate
has
been
referred
for,
prosecution
charges
have
been
filed,
so
they
are
afforded
all
the
the
rights
of
victims
in
the
community.
As
far
as
the
notification,
the
status
of
the
investigations
and
the
prosecution.
A
H
A
Okay,
so
the
the
concern
that
you're,
citing
is
that
the
people
that
manage
the
people
who
are
in
custody
at
endoc
are
man
are
mandatory.
Reporters
and
the
concern
is
that
people
who
are
reporting
sexual
abuse
or
sexual
violence
within
endoc
would
not
want
to
talk
to
a
mandatory
reporter.
But
historically
we
haven't
seen
that
problem
arise.
H
A
Okay,
I
just
have
one
more
question,
which
is
whether
there
were
any
of
the
other
portions
of
the
bill.
We've
talked
about
a
couple
of
them
allowing
any
advocate
to
be
there,
allowing
people
to
choose
their
own
medical
providers,
allowing
people
to
choose
the
gender
of
the
person
investigating
their
case
have
any
of
those
concerns
actually
come
to
fruition
in
the
last
five
years
to
the
knowledge
of
anybody
here
to
present
today,.
A
Okay,
I
see
that
senator
orrinshaw
also
has
his
hand
raised.
Go
ahead,
senator.
I
Thank
you
chair
and
my
question
may
be
somewhat
duplicative.
I
think
you
answered
part
of
it.
The
the
director
and
the
deputy
director
told
us
there
have
been
three
sexual
assaults
in
2020,
and
I
was
looking
back
at
the
history
of
senate
bill
364
from
the
2019
session.
Senator
spearman
brought
the
original
sexual
assault
survivors
bill
of
rights
legislation
and
it
became
effective
october
1
of
2019
in
that
time.
I
Since,
since
her
bill
became
effective,
have
there
been
any
incidents
where
the
interplay
of
state
law
with
the
federal
prison
rape,
elimination
act
has
caused
these
kind
of
problems
for
for
the
department
I'm
just
wondering
is.
Is
this?
Are
the
problems,
something
that's
a
concern
that
may
happen
or
has
it
already
happened?
The
department
these.
A
And
I'm
going
to
cut
in
really
quick
to
ask
that
our
presenters,
please
give
their
name
first
and
last
before
they
speak.
G
For
the
record,
harold
wickham
department
of
corrections
at
this
point,
no,
we
have
not
had
any
any
problems
or
any
indications
of
problems.
However,
we're
just
trying
to
be
forward
thinking
and
ensure
that
we're
protecting
the
safety
and
security
of
the
facilities,
the
offenders,
as
well
as
the
community.
A
D
Thank
you,
chair
just
a
quick
question.
I'm
not
sure
if
this
belongs
with
mr
anthony
or
the
department,
but
my
as
we
go
through
this
discussion,
I'm
wondering
if
the
if
priya
has
given
the
states
the
ability
to
enter
this
field.
Typically,
when
federal
law,
when
congress
passes
a
lot,
it
either
has
to
give
states
the
ability
to
regulate
in
the
same
space,
or
we
are
preempted
from
doing
that.
G
For
the
record,
harold
wickham
department
of
corrections
through
the
chair
to
senator
pickett
packard,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
question,
sir,
and
to
my
knowledge
the
answer
is
no.
That
has
not
been
done.
D
D
So
yes
is
my
understanding
when
this
bill
was
originally
came
forward
in
2019
from
senator
spearman
the
sexual
assault
survivor's
bill
of
rights,
our
office
did
look
into
those
issues
and
made
a
determination
that
state
law
is
not
preempted
all
right.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
on
this
specific
issue,
which
may
or
may
not
have
been
discussed
at
the
time,
of
course,
I
was
here,
but
wasn't
pretty
to
those
conversations.
D
J
J
J
K
Hello
and
thank
you
chair,
my
name
is
nick
chipek
s-h-e-p-a-c-k.
I'm
a
policy
and
program
associate
with
the
aclu
of
nevada,
as
our
policy
director
holly
welborn
testified
last
session.
During
the
hearing
for
the
sexual
assault
survivors
bill,
we
have
come
to
realize
that
we
have
not
fostered
an
environment
in
which
women
feel
they
can
come
forward,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
allegations
of
sexual
assault.
This
fact
is
even
more
true
when
it
comes
to
incarcerated
women.
K
This
the
bill
of
rights,
however,
does
not
only
protect
women,
but
it
protects
everyone,
and
this
should
not
include
just
those
on
the
outside,
but
also
incarcerated
people,
while
priya
overlaps
with
the
survivor's
bill
of
rights,
it
does
not
mirror
them.
Eliminating
incarcerated
people
from
the
survivor's
bill
of
rights
will
greatly
reduce
the
rights
of
incarcerated
sexual
assault
survivors.
K
We
can
work
to
rectify
any
conflicts
between
priya
and
the
survivor's
bill
of
rights.
This
bill,
however,
does
not
do
that.
We
understand
the
safety
concerns
raised
by
the
nevada
department
of
corrections,
but
those
too
could
be
addressed
in
much
more
nuanced
legislation
if
preregulations
are
stronger
than
the
bill
of
rights.
Those
should
be
followed
and
likely
legally
must
be,
but
the
bill
of
rights
has
additional
necessary
protections
for
survivors
that
should
be
available
to
all
nevadans.
K
We
are
happy
to
work
with
the
department
to
build
a
policy
that
addresses
safety
and
security,
while
also
protecting
victims
rights.
This
bill,
however,
fails
to
do
that.
This
bill
does
not
fix
the
issues
raised
by
the
department
and
strips
protections
away
from
survivors
of
sexual
violence.
This
is
a
sweeping
response
to
nuance
issues
with
clear
negative
consequences
for
survivors
of
sexual
assault
and
should
not
be
supported.
Thank
you.
J
L
Good
afternoon
senators,
this
is
john
pirro
j-o-h-n-p-I-r-o
of
the
clark
county
public
defenders
office.
We
share
the
same
concerns
that
were
just
voiced
by
mr
chipak
of
the
aclu
and
we
would
suggest
using
the
same
tax
suggested
by
senator
harris
instead
of
wholesale
elimination
of
incarcerated
persons
from
the
survivors
bill
of
rights,
let's
go
and
analyze
it.
I
looked
up
priya
prior
to
our
conversation
or
on
this
bill
today
and
after
our
conversation
with
director
wickham,
and
I
want
to
thank
him
for
meeting
with
us
on
such
a
speedy
basis
to
discuss
this
bill.
L
But
even
after
our
conversation,
we
informed
them
that
at
this
point
we
are
still
opposed
hearing
the
ever
brilliant.
Mr
anthony's
analysis.
Seeing
that
this
the
state
law
did
not
interfere
with
federal
preemption,
we
would
say
that
it
would
be
a
better
tact
to
go
through
the
survivor's
bill
of
rights
and
see,
which
is
what
is
not
practical
in
a
prison
setting
and
move
forward
from
there,
rather
than
wholesale
elimination,
and
with
that
I'll
leave.
My
opposition.
J
C
C
I
just
want
to
join
mr
chipak
and
mr
pirro
in
very
similar
comments
that
it
is
our
thought
that
if
there
is
conflict
between
korea
and
the
sexual
assault
survivors
bill
of
rights
that
that
bill
be
modified
to
state
that,
when
in
conflict
that
priya
would
take
preeminence.
But
you
know
other
than
that.
We
feel
very
strongly
that
those
who
are
incarcerated
when
their
sexual
assault
takes
place
and
also
because
we
feel
this
could
impact
individuals
who
may
have
been
assaulted
when
they
were
in
the
community
and
then
once
they
are
incarcerated.
C
J
M
Hi,
my
name
is
jamila
lewis,
you
spell
my
name:
j,
a
m
e
e
l,
a
h
last
name,
lewis,
l
e
w.
I
s-
I
am
here
as
an
individual
community
member,
as
well
as
an
advocate
with
the
mass
liberation
project.
M
M
After
researching
some
information
about
priya
and
being
quite
informed
myself,
I
think
that
one
thing
that
was
forgotten
about
in
this
conversation,
and
that
we
really
need
to
think
about
is
that
people
who
are
part
of
ndoc
may
not
always
be
in
our
regular
sense
of
incarceration.
They
may
be
in
the
community,
they
may
be
in
parole,
probation
and
they
may
be
in
transitional
housing
as
well,
which
priya
also
applies
to,
but
some
folk
may
still
choose
to
have
access
to
a
community
advocate
or
some
types
of
services.
M
So
I
think
that
allowing
not
only
the
prius
standards
to
apply
to
those
who
are
incarcerated,
but
also
to
apply
to
those
who
are
anywhere
within
the
system,
specifically
within
ndoc
access
to
the
survivors
bills
that
are
the
survivors
sexual
assault.
Bill
of
rights,
would
honestly
do
us
justice
rather
than
an
injustice,
by
taking
folk
again,
as
ms
staples
said
or
mrs
staples
said
out
of
the
bill,
and
I
think
there
are
ways
in
which
we
can
definitely
address,
mandated
reporting,
confidentiality
and
even
getting
people
the
investigators
that
they're
asking
for.
M
J
N
Yes,
hello,
my
name
is
jody
j-o-d-I
hawking
h-o-c-k-I-n-g.
I
am
the
founder
of
return
strong,
which
is
a
prisoner's
rights
organization
representing
we
have
about
a
thousand
members
right
now.
In
2018,
the
bureau
of
justice
statistics
reported
that
from
2012
to
2015
there
were
close
to
25
000
allegations
of
sexual
victimization
in
prisons,
jails
and
other
correctional
facilities.
N
While
these
statistics
are
alarming,
we
know
that
the
numbers
are
likely
much
higher
as
sexual
victimization
is
dramatically
underreported
due
to
the
stigma
that
surrounds
it
by
excluding
incarcerated
people
from
the
protections
of
sexual
assault,
the
sexual
assault
bill
of
rights,
the
state
of
nevada
is
perpetuating
this
stigma
and
sending
a
message
that
justice
is
merit-based
and
victim.
Victims
must
reach
a
certain
level
of
worthiness
to
be
deserving
of
justice.
This
decision
will
empower
perpetrators
and
increase
risk
for
thousands
of
individuals
across
the
state.
N
There
is
a
non-binary
relationship
between
offending
and
victimization,
and
people
not
only
can
but
often
do
hold.
Both
of
these
identities,
at
the
same
time,
having
committed
a
crime,
does
not
exempt
incarcerated
people
from
ever
becoming
victims
and
therefore
should
not
serve
as
a
barrier
to
their
access
to
rights
and
protection.
N
We
should
not
and
cannot
go
down
the
slippery
slope
of
subjectivity
deciding
who
is
and
who
is
not
worthy
of
victims,
rights
and
protections.
So
the
question
is:
do
we
really
believe
that
sexual
assault
survivors
all
sexual
assault
survivors
are
deserving
of
a
victim's
bill
of
rights?
If
we
do
you'll
not
further
marginalize
the
extremely
vulnerable
population
of
incarcerated
people
by
withholding
rights
that
you
previously
deemed
necessary,
and
just
for
sexual
assault
victims
to
have
access
to
return?
N
Strong
stands
alongside
all
of
the
people
that
have
spoken
before
us
in
opposition
of
this
bill
does
not
need
to
be
black
or
white.
We
can
go
back
and
look
and
make
sure
that
the
concerns
are
addressed
without
throwing
without
withdrawing
that
protection
for
all
incarcerated
people.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you
caller.
If
you
have
recently
joined
the
call
and
would
like
to
testify
in
opposition
of
sb
20,
please
press
star
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
again.
If
you
have
recently
joined
the
call
and
would
like
to
testify
in
opposition
of
sb
20,
please
press
star
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
caller
with
the
last
3
digits
771,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
J
J
O
Office,
I'm
going
to
try
that
again
sorry,
this
is
kendra
burchie
with
the
washoe
county,
public
defender's
office,
k-e-n-d-r-a,
virgi
b-e-r-t-s-c-h-y,
and
I
appreciate
that
deputy
director
wickman
was
willing
to
speak
with
us
this
afternoon
or
this
morning
to
address
our
concerns.
We
really
appreciate
that
chair,
scheible
and
members
of
the
senate
judiciary,
I'm
testifying
today
in
opposition
to
this
bill,
because
we're
really
undoing
the
good
work
that
was
put
forth
in
the
sexual
survivors
bill
of
rights.
O
It
said
that
all
victims
deserve
support
and
justice.
We
feel
that
this
bill
does
exactly
the
opposite.
Instead
of
stripping
the
rights
stripping.
The
protection,
even
if
just
alone,
in
the
name
of
saying
that
someone
who
is
incarcerated,
is
not
worthy
of
receiving
the
protections
from
the
sexual
assault
survivor
bills
of
rights.
O
This
furthers
the
belief
that
if
you
are
incarcerated,
you
do
not
have
any
rights.
We
believe
that
this
will
undermine
the
work
that
was
done
and
especially
in
terms
of
you've
heard
mr
pierre
and
myself
say
over
and
over.
Instead
of
just
increasing
penalties,
we
should
be
providing
services
and
that's
what
this
bill
had
done.
I
would
just
note
that
I
agree
with
the
statements
that
were
that
came
before
me
and
in
a
publication
from
the
nevada
department
of
corrections,
the
prison
rape,
elimination
act,
pre-annual
report
coming
from
the
calendar
year
2019.
O
J
J
J
L
E-L-I-A-S-O-L-A-N-O,
I
I'm
a
student
researcher
at
the
university
of
nevada,
las
vegas,
where
I
study
criminal
justice
issues.
I
specialize
in
corrections.
I
participated
in
numerous
studies
where
I
was
able
to
listen
to
interviews
people
currently
incarcerated
in
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
control.
L
I
vote,
or
I
speak
in
opposition
of
this
bill
for
the
very
reasons
that
have
been
previously
mentioned
here.
I
echo
them,
but
I
want
to
add
that,
while
the
priya
law
does
overlap
and
a
lot
of
the
regulations
as
the
bill
of
rights,
might
the
bill
of
rights
has
more
and
there's
no
reason
that
we
should
ever
take
away
right
for
the
federal
government
to
give
incarcerated
people
rights?
L
The
state
should
always
had
rights,
especially
when
it
comes
to
victims
of
sexual
assault,
but
the
the
point
that's
more
salient
when
it
comes
to
the
department
of
correct
the
bureau
of
prisons
actually
to
track
this
data
via
priya
is
that
as
often
as
people
don't
report,
as
often
as
we
don't
collect
the
data,
they
also
only
collect
10
percent
of
a
sample
size
in
the
state.
So
what
about
the
other
90
that
don't
get
to
report
every
inmate
has
the
ability
to
report,
but
they
are
much
less
likely
to
do
that.
L
G
L
Or
an
officer
does
it,
we
should
be
asking
those
questions
rather
than
waiting
for
that
person
to
come
forward.
That's
my
testimony.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
and
I'll
ask
the
esteemed
secretary
to
please
note
that
elia
solano's
testimony
was
given
during
the
neutral
period
of
testimony,
but
was
actually
in
opposition.
I
appreciate
that
we're
all
learning
this
new
system
and
at
you
know
this
early
time
in
in
this
session.
It's
not
a
big
deal.
I'm
I'll
allow
the
testimony
to
remain
on
the
record,
but
in
the
future
we'll
ask
everybody
to
listen
carefully
for
the
cues
to
testify
at
the
right
time
and
staff
at
bps.
A
E
Hi
chair
scheible,
once
again,
this
is
director
daniels
from
the
nevada
department
of
corrections,
first
name
charles,
going
to
start
the
conversation
regarding
sb
32,
which
is
also
covered
in.
E
This
previous
bill
died
due
to
community
amendment
that
was
submitted
and
increased
fiscal
note
from
zero
dollars
to
844
600
during
2019
through
2020,
as
well
as
1
400,
I'm
sorry,
1044
hundred
and
ninety
two
and
then
twenty
twenty
one,
our
primary
persons
that
will
be
discussing
this
will
be
harold,
wickham
and
robin
feast.
This
will
update
this
updates,
clarifies
this
clarifies
and
modernizes
the
establishment
and
operations
of
programs
for
treatment
of
substance
abuse
disorders
within
the
depart
nevada
department
of
corrections.
E
This
amendment
clarifies
that
programs
for
the
treatment
of
offenders
be
established
and
maintained
as
evidence-based
or
based
on
best
practices
supported
by
research
and
that
these
programs
are
newly
defined,
as
quote
programs
of
treatment
for
offenders
with
substance
use
disorders
or
co-occurring
disorders,
end
of
quote
previously.
The
term
substance
abusers
was
not
well-defined
and
is
no
longer
accepted
terminology
within
the
field.
Under
these
amendments,
the
term
substance
abuse
disorders
is
defined
as
a
cluster
of
cognitive,
behavioral
and
psychological
symptoms,
indicating
that
the
individual
continues
using
substance.
E
E
The
changes
are
more
in
line
with
ndoc's
efforts
to
only
provide
evidence-based
programs
in
order
to
reduce
recidivism
and
protect
the
communities
of
nevada
for
the
safety
of
its
citizens.
I
would
chair
you
know
my
this
over
to
a
deputy
director
wickham,
and
he
can
take
it
from
here.
G
Them
for
the
record
deputy
director,
harold
wickham
nevada
department
of
corrections.
At
this
point,
I
think
that
pretty
much
summarizes
where
we're
at
there's
just
basically
some
terminology
changes
in
in
this
request.
So,
pending
your.
A
I
B
I
I
I
B
Robin
he's
substance
abuse
program
director
for
department
of
corrections.
By
modernizing
this
language,
it
fits
what
the
field
accepts
as
acceptable
terminology.
It
will
actually
match
what
we
already
do
within
the
department
and
allow
us
the
flexibility
to
go
after
grants
that
offer
us
to
expand
to
other
programs,
including
co-occurring
programs.