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A
A
And,
according
to
my
calculations,
it
is
now
1
pm
and
I
am
happy
to
welcome
everybody
to
the
very
first
meeting
of
the
81st
sessions
senate
judiciary
committee.
Really
quick.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
can
be
heard
and
seen
no
one's
gesticulating
wildly
at
me.
So
I'm
guessing
that
we're
all
good
and
I
want
to
welcome
our
members
of
the
committee.
I'm
we're
all
learning
here
how
to
work
in
this
virtual
world.
A
So
I
am
scrolling
through
the
top
and
that's
the
order
that
I'm
going
to
go
in
I'm
going
to
welcome
senator
orrinshaw,
who
I
see
is
here.
Senator
hansen,
I
see
is
here
senator
pickard
senator
harris
and
we
will
also
be
joined.
Surely
by
minority
leader
settlemeyer
and
vice
chair
majority,
leader
canazarro,
and
I
will
ask
the
secretary
to
oh,
I
see
minority
leader
settlemeyer
joining
right
now.
A
Yes,
senator
settlemyre,
thank
you
and
I'm
sure
the
majority
leader
will
be
with
us
shortly
and
I
will
ask
the
secretary
to
mark
her
present
when
she
is
here-
and
it
is
my
pleasure
to
welcome
all
of
you
today
to
the
assembly
judiciary,
assembly,
the
senate
judiciary
committee.
A
As
well
as
all
of
our
anonymous
audience
members,
normally
we
have
the
pleasure
of
seeing
all
of
your
faces,
but
today
you
guys
get
to
stay
in
your
pajamas
and
log
on
from
wherever
you
might
be,
with
a
cat
with
a
bat
on
a
town
and
a
clown
wherever
you
might
be,
and
so
the
I'm
going
to
take
a
few
minutes
right
now
to
go
over
some
of
the
differences
that
you're
going
to
experience
this
year.
I
think,
being
virtual,
and
I
want
to
explain
that
the
legislative
building
is
currently
closed.
A
All
of
our
community
committee
meetings
will
be
virtual
and
you
can
participate
either
by
zoom
or
telephone,
based
on
the
type
of
participation
that
you
are
called
upon
to
to
engage
in
or
that
you
desire
to
engage
in.
So
as
in
all
previous
sessions,
all
the
committee-related
information
will
be
available
on
nellis,
that
is
short
for
the
nevada.
Electronic
legislative
information
system
is
accessible
through
our
website.
I
am
guessing.
A
You
already
found
it
if
you
are
here
today,
but
always
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
myself
or
members
of
the
committee
staff
who
I'll
be
introducing
to
you
shortly.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
our
committee
website,
if
you
are
seeking
to
engage
with
the
committee,
which
we
hope
you
all
will
do,
you
can
register
to
participate
in
the
committee
through
the
new
nellis
system,
which
places
you
in
line
to
testify
on
a
bill
or
provide
public
comment
during
the
meeting.
A
You
are
also
welcome
and
encouraged
to
submit
written
comments
to
the
committee.
All
of
those
are
reviewed
by
the
members
of
the
committee
and
they
will
be
made
to
the
public
as
well.
There
is
a
committee
email
address
on
the
website.
We
also
have
a
fax
number
and
if
any
of
you
are
going
to
send
us
a
fax,
please
let
me
know,
because
I
would
like
to
see
a
fax
machine
in
action
and
I
think
that'd
be
a
really
fun
piece
of
history,
but
that's
not
to
discourage
you
from
sending
the
facts.
Do
it.
A
You
can
also
mail
us
stuff,
I
mean
whatever
whatever
you
need
to
do
to
to.
Let
us
know
what
you
think
and
how
you
feel
about
our
committee.
We
are
here
for
it.
You
can
also
share
your
opinion
via
the
nellis,
legislature's
opinion
application
and,
of
course,
if
you
just
want
to
view
the
meeting
which
we
welcome
you
to
do,
you
can
do
that
on
nellis
or
through
our
associated
youtube
link
during
the
2021
legislative
session
to
testify
on
a
bill
or
provide
public
comment.
A
You
must
register
first,
so
you
can
register
during
the
meeting,
but
there
will
be
a
delay
and
we
encourage
you
as
much
as
possible
to
register
beforehand.
A
That
will
put
you
in
a
queue
and
once
your
registration
is
submitted,
you'll
get
a
confirmation
screen
and
receive
an
email
that
gives
you
the
phone
number
and
the
id
to
call
in
to
make
your
comment,
so
you
might
be
watching
on
your
computer.
Pick
up
your
phone
call
that
number.
In
order
to
make
your
comment
just
to
note
that,
while
meeting
registration
is
required
to
participate,
it
does
not
guarantee
that
you
will
be
able
to
speak
similar
to
previous
sessions.
A
Testimony
and
public
comment
may
be
limited
due
to
time
constraints
and
in
fact
they
may
actually
be
limited
a
little
bit
more
this
session,
because
we
are
relying
on
bps
to
provide
us
with
these
wonderful
video
links,
and
there
are
other
committees
who
have
to
meet
after
us.
A
Specifically,
there
are
committees
at
3
30,
so
we
will
be
out
of
here
by
3
pm
pretty
much
every
day
until
the
whole
schedule
shifts
at
the
end
of
the
session,
as
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware,
always
happens
when
you're
on
the
phone
line,
please
pay
attention
to
which
bill
is
being
considered
and
follow.
The
verbal
prompts
provided
by
bps
staff,
so
you
know
which
keys
to
press
to
raise
your
hand
and
unmute
yourself.
A
A
If
you
need
assistance
with
any
of
these
processes
or
if
you
would
like
to
receive
electronic
notification
of
the
committee's
agendas
and
minutes,
please
contact
our
committee
manager.
At
the
committee
email
listed
on
the
agenda,
the
senate
judiciary
will
meet
either
virtually
or
in
room
2135
at
1
pm
every
day
likely.
We
will
not
be
meeting
on
fridays
for
the
beginning
of
session
until
we
have
so
many
bills
that
we
have
to
start
meeting
on
fridays.
Everyone
should
expect,
like
I
said,
those
meetings
to
run
for
two
hours
monday
through
thursday,
with
numerous
bills.
A
I
think
this
will
also
make
it
as
important
as
ever
perhaps
more
that
you
really
utilize
the
written
comment,
function
and
written
testimony
function
like
I
said
before.
If
you
email
us
your
comments
or
your
testimony
in
advance,
it
will
be
provided
on
nellis
and
that
way
we
can
keep
our
meetings
to
two
hours,
but
still
have
the
opportunity
to
get
everybody's
input
for
virtual
meetings.
A
Testifiers
will
be
asked
to
state
and
spell
their
names
after
being
called
to
testify,
that's
very
important
for
our
wonderful
committee,
secretaries,
who
are
taking
down
your
name.
So
please
have
patience
with
us.
If
we
ask
you
to
spell
it
more
than
once,
and
please
speak
loudly
speak
clearly
and
provide
that
information
at
the
beginning.
A
We
also
ask
you
to
mute
your
computer
or
your
microphone,
your
phone,
whatever
it
might
be,
while
you
are
not
speaking,
and
next,
we
are
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
amendments
and
exhibit
formats,
as
you
know,
we'll
be
using
the
nella
system.
The
senate
requests
that
any
exhibits
you
wish
to
provide
be
supplied
to
our
committee
manager
no
later
than
5
p.m.
The
day
before
the
hearing,
so
they
can
be
uploaded
to
nellis,
and
you
can
see
our
committee
agenda
for
additional
instructions.
A
Any
person
proposing
an
amendment
to
a
bill
being
heard
by
the
committee
must
propose
the
submitted
must
submit
the
amendment
in
writing
and
include
a
statement
of
intent
for
the
amendment.
The
proposal
must
also
include
the
appropriate
name
and
contact
number
in
a
few
weeks,
we'll
start
doing
our
first
work
sessions.
A
list
of
bills
for
work
session
will
be
posted
on
the
agenda
as
soon
as
possible
after
decision
after
a
decision
is
made
regarding
work
session
bills.
Again,
amendments
provided
in
writing
are
extremely
helpful.
A
A
The
committee
staff
may
as
a
courtesy,
be
willing
to
accommodate
these
requests,
but
please
do
not
expect
that
the
agenda
or
the
bills
or
the
amendments
or
the
work
session
document
will
simply
be
printed
on
what
used
to
be
a
living
tree
and
placed
on
your
desk
in
the
chamber
or
your
desk
in
your
office.
That
will
not
be
happening
unless
you
specifically
ask
your
staff
to
arrange
for
that
to
happen.
For
you,
all
documents
will
be
made
available
in
larger
print,
higher
contrast
or
any
other
format
necessary
for
accessibility.
A
Finally,
we
encourage
everybody
to
stay
safe
and
continue
to
appear
remotely
as
long
as
necessary
to
ensure
our
community
is
returned
to
health.
While
you
are
observing,
participating
or
testifying
from
home.
We
also
continue
to
encourage
civic
engagement,
especially
amongst
our
youngest
citizens.
A
Therefore,
unless,
and
until
they
become
disruptive
children
and
pets
are
welcome
to
join
you
on
camera,
this
committee
does
very
serious
and
important
work,
so
we
will
expect
everybody
to
conduct
themselves
professionally,
even
via
camera,
and
the
same
rules
apply
to
people
of
any
age
who
has
to
who
wish
to
testify
before
the
committee.
If
your
children
would
like
to
be
heard,
they
can
and
must
register
with
the
committee
staff
and
provide
their
name
and
affiliation.
A
You
can
both
register
through
the
same
link.
You
can
talk
on
the
same
phone
line,
but
they
will
have
to
give
us
their
name
and
their
affiliation,
and
then
their
marks
will
be
recorded
and
memorialized.
Just
like
yours
for
the
record
and
with
those
comments,
I
am
very
pleased
to
introduce
you
to
our
amazing
staff
here
on
the
senate
judiciary
committee
beth
reichers
is
our
committee
manager.
A
I
believe
she
is
here
and
does
not
have
her
mic
and
camera
on,
because
she
is
very
busy
keeping
track
of
all
of
the
rules
that
I
just
spelled
out
and
all
of
the
business
of
this
committee
kayla
lee
is
my
assistant.
I
think
she
is
also
watching
from
the
wings
to
make
sure
that
nothing
goes
too
far
off
the
rails
here
and
with.
When
you
call
my
office,
you
will
probably
get
in
touch
with
kayla.
A
First
she's
kind
of
the
brains
of
the
operation
around
here,
patricia
devereaux
will
be
joining
us
again.
She
is
our
senior
committee
secretary.
I
don't
think
that
she's
in
the
meeting
today,
but
you
will
certainly
be
seeing
her
today.
I
believe
we
have
with
us
gina
lacosha,
who
is
our
comm
one
of
our
committee.
Secretaries,
sally
ram
is
also
a
committee
secretary
for
us,
I
don't
believe
she's
on
a
meeting
today,
but
she
will
be
joining
us
at
a
future
meeting
very
soon.
A
We
are
joined
once
again
by
nick
anthony
our
committee
council
from
the
legal
division
of
lcb.
I
see
nick
on
the
video
today
and
we're
happy
to
have
you
here
with
us.
We
also
have
returning
patrick
geiman
our
committee
policy,
analyst
from
the
research
division
of
the
lcb
and
julianne
king
is
our
research
policy
assistant
also
from
the
research
division
of
the
lcb,
and
with
that
I
think
we
are
ready
to
move
on
to
our
first
order
of
business,
which
I
believe
is
the
reading
and
adoption
of
the
rules.
B
Madam
chair,
this
is
pat
guy
and
the
committee
policy
analyst.
You
are
correct.
That's
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
and
the
rules
are
in
nellis
for
everyone's
review.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
go
through
them.
B
They
sort
of
reiterate
some
of
the
things
that
you
spoke
about
in
your
remarks,
as
well
as
laying
out
things
like
the
requirement
for
a
quorum
and
that
video
conferencing
and
virtual
meetings
constitute
a
meeting
of
the
of
the
committee
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
stuff
in
there
the
rules
follow
senate
rule
53,
which
is
in
senate
resolution
number
one
of
this
session.
B
So
I
don't
know
if,
if
it's
your
pleasure
cherish,
I
will
for
me
to
go
through
all
of
them
or
if
you
would
like
to
just
see
if
the
members
have
any
questions
or
entertain
emotion
or
how
you
want
to
how
you
want
to
proceed,
but
I'm
happy
to
do
whatever
you
like.
A
I
think
this
is
the
perfect
time
to
utilize
the
senate
judiciary
paddles.
A
A
Mr
gainen,
can
you
please
let
us
know
about
any
changes
in
these
rules.
B
Yeah
madam
chair
rules,
as
they're
drafted
and
presented
before
you
contain
virtually
no
changes.
B
They
are
almost
identical
to
the
rules
from
the
last
session
from
the
senate
judiciary
committee
and
the
only
change
that
I
can
think
of
off
the
top
of
my
head
without
reviewing
them
very
closely,
and
I'm
I'm
about
99
sure
they're
identical
is
that
in
item
number
two,
it
now
reads
that
a
video
conference
or
virtual
meeting
shall
qualify
as
a
meeting
together
and
the
chair
shall
set
the
agenda
for
all
meetings
and
the
term
virtual
meeting
was
added
to
the
rules.
Otherwise
they're
they're
pretty
much
identical
and
they
follow
this.
B
Just
the
senate
rule
53
rules.
A
So
moved,
but
first
I
think
there
was
one
other
additional
rule.
I'm
and
let
me
apologize
off
the
bat.
We
are
still
learning
the
technology.
I
am
still
figuring
out
how
to
keep
documents
and
my
screen
open.
I
believe
I
added
a
rule,
mr
guyan,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
made
it
into
the
final
version
asking
or
requiring
everybody
to.
A
Please
stick
with
gender-neutral
terminology
in
this
committee,
whether
you
are
a
member,
whether
you
are
testifying,
and
specifically
I
want
everybody
to
know
and
I'll
repeat
this
a
couple
of
times,
because
I
know
that
not
everybody
here,
not
everybody,
who's
going
to
testify
from
the
committee
is
here
today
and
as
people
come
before
the
committee,
I
may
be
reminding
them
that
you
may
simply
call
me
chair
or
chair
scheible
no
need
for
miss
or
madam
chair
or
anything
like
that,
and
I
will
expect
you
to
to
do
the
same
with
each
other
and
with
all
of
our
witnesses,
and
that's
the
only
change
that
is.
B
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
this
is
peck
and
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
my
oversight.
I
apologize
that
is
rule
16
in
the
rules.
I
apologize
for
not
mentioning
that
my
mistake.
A
No
worries
and
with
that
I
believe
there
is
a
motion
on
the
virtual
floor
to
adopt
the
rules.
Okay
and
a
second,
I
think
that
was
majority
leader
canezaro
all
in
favor.
I
believe
we
have
to
do
this
by
roll
call
vote
for
purposes
of
recording
the
vote.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
the
secretary
to
take
the
roll
call
vote
on
this
measure.
D
D
A
D
Yes,
I'll
call
the
vote
now.
Senator
orange
hall.
E
C
D
C
F
D
Me,
madam
chairman,
oh
I
don't
know
if
I
heard
senator
pickard.
D
D
C
I'm
in
no
disrespect
by
referring
to
your
gender,
however,
put
me
down
as
a
no
I'm
not
going
to
have
a
rule
in
place.
It
says
that
I
have
to
do
that
every
time
as
a
sign
of
respect,
I
sometimes
call
people
by
male
or
female,
and
it
is
never
meant
in
a
disrespectful
tone
or
in
a
term,
and
in
that
respect,
though
I
just
put
me
down
as
a
no
on
the
rule.
Thank
you.
G
And
chair
senator
candicero,
I
I
will
be
a
yes
on
the
rules.
A
B
D
Okay,
this
is
the
committee
secretary.
The
votes
were,
can
earnshaw?
Yes,
harris?
Yes,
settlemyre?
Yes,
hanson!
Yes,
picard!
Yes,
pickard!
I'm
sorry
hannah
zero!
Yes,.
D
C
I'm
yes
chair,
I
did
want
to
be
recorded
as
a
no,
because
I
will
have
a
very
difficult
time.
I've
never
called
anybody
male
or
female,
about
disrespect.
So
just
put
me
as
a
no.
A
A
A
All
right
and
we
are
back
from
our
one
minute
recess.
I
have
consulted
with
my
agenda.
I
forgot
that
we
first
have
to
review
the
committee
reports.
B
B
B
One
is
that,
as
the
committee
policy
analyst,
I
am
here
to
serve
everyone
on
the
committee
and
to
offer
analysis
and
assistance
with
issues
that
come
before
the
committee
and
that
analysis
and
assistance
is
always
nonpartisan
and
confidential,
and
then
I
would
just
point
out
that,
within
the
brief
you
can
find
contact
information
for
myself
and
the
other
members
of
the
staff
who
are
assisting
the
committee.
B
The
committee
jurisdiction
is
listed
within
the
brief,
which
is
helpful.
It's
quite
broad
jurisdiction
and
that's
why
the
judiciary
committee
is
the
busiest
policy
committee
in
the
senate,
so
you
can
expect
typically
somewhere
around
165
to
180
bills
or
so
a
session,
which
means
we're
going
to
be
quite
busy,
and
the
members
should
expect
some
act
agendas
as
we
move
forward.
B
The
only
change
that
I
am
aware
of
to
our
jurisdiction
from
last
session
is
that
the
committee
is
going
to
be
getting
common
interest
community
or
hoa
bills.
This
session,
I
believe,
and
then
the
only
other
stuff
that
I
would
point
out
about.
The
committee
brief,
is
that
it
does
contain
a
list
of
relevant
publications
that
the
members
might
be
interested
in,
including
relevant
bulletins,
on
interim
studies
that
were
done
prior
to
sessions
starting.
B
It
also
contains
an
explanation,
nevada's
court
structure
and
our
criminal
and
punishment
codes
for
felonies
and
misdemeanors,
which
can
be
helpful
depending
on
what
item
is
before
the
committee.
So
with
that,
madam
chair,
I
would
conclude
and
just
say
that
if
anybody
has
questions
about
the
brief
or
would
like
further
information
from
me
regarding
it
or
any
other
matters
for
the
committee,
I
look
very
much
forward
to
helping
everyone
and
to
doing
some
good
work
for
you
this
session
and
that's
it
thanks.
A
Thank
you,
mr
gaiden.
Are
there
any
questions
about
the
committee
brief
before
right
now.
A
I
am
not
seeing
any
questions
or
comments
so
with
that
we
will
move
on
to
our
next
order
of
business,
which
is
our
hearing
on
senate
bill
21,
and
I
believe
we
have
our
presenters
here
for
senate
bill.
21.
A
All
right,
then,
I
am
also
ready,
and
I
will
now
open
the
hearing
on
senate
bill.
21.
H
H
S-H-E-R-R-I-V-O-N-D-R-A-K
and
we
are
presenting
senate
bill
21.,
the
division
of
child
and
family
services
is
a
state
agency
that
works
in
three
different
child
serving
systems,
child
welfare,
juvenile
justice
and
children's
mental
health.
So
of
our
about
1
000
staff
members,
we
are
working
in
those
three
different,
those
three
different
systems.
H
Currently
we
have
different
background
check
rules
for
each
of
those
systems,
and
so
we
end
up
in
a
situation
where
we
have
folks
in
one
area
they
can't
go
to
another
area,
because
the
background
check
rules
are
different,
and
sometimes
we
can't
hire
good
people
just
because
of
some.
H
You
know
antiquated
beliefs,
that
past
criminal
behavior
means
that
there's
a
particular
threat
in
the
present,
and
so
what
we
did
is
we
worked
with
the
lcb
on
some
language
to
just
start
from
a
starting
point
of
standardizing,
exclusionary
crimes
across
our
three
systems,
and
so
that's
what
senate
bill
21
does?
H
The
legislature
has
previously
adopted
the
ban,
the
box-
if
you
remember
that
from
a
couple
sessions
ago,
and
so
through
the
state
system,
we
don't
we
no
longer
ask,
have
you
been
convicted
of
a
you,
know,
crime
or
a
felony,
but
in
reality,
then
they
show
up
to
the
interview
and
we
say:
okay,
here's
a
list
of
exclusionary
crimes.
Have
you
been
convicted
of
any
of
those,
because
if
not,
you
know
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
go
much
further.
H
So
what
this
really
does
is
it
tries
to
get
it
standardized
across
our
three
systems,
and
so
what
I'll
quickly
do
is
just
walk
through
some
of
the
changes
in
the
bill.
So
section
one
applies
to
our
juvenile
justice
facilities
that
the
state
operates
in
our
parole
bureau
and
you
can
see.
H
Let
me
back
up
a
little
bit.
The
most
comprehensive
system
in
terms
of
exclusionary
backgrounds
was
our
child
welfare
system.
So
most
of
the
changes
updates,
the
juvenile
justice,
exclusionary
crimes
and
the
mental
health
crimes
to
the
child
welfare
ones,
and
so
you
can
see
in
section
one
and
there's
an
attachment
that
has
kind
of
a
modifications
overview
that
I
think
helps
summarize
it's
easier
for
me
to
read
than
the
strikethroughs
and
stuff
and
the
bill.
So
you
can
see
there's
about
10
different,
exclusionary
crimes
added
to
our
juvenile
justice
facilities.
H
The
legislative
council
bureau
helped
us
with
some
clarification
on
child
abuse
and
neglect,
and
then
we
also
put
a
three-year
time
limit
on
federal
or
state
convictions
for
controlled
substance,
and
I
would
say
that's
one
that
we
frequently
see
a
lot
where
we
have
our
folks
in
the
field.
That
say
this
person
is
like
the
exact
fit.
We
need
to
help
serve
our
kids
and
they
have
you
know
a
minor
drug
crime
from
20
years
ago
and
they're
permanently
excluded
from
from
being
hired.
H
So
in
all
three,
we
added
that
three-year
time
limit
on
federal
or
state
convictions
for
controlled
substances
in
the
child
welfare.
One
again
that
was
the
most
comprehensive,
so
section
three.
We
removed
contributory
delinquency
from
all
three
and
then
add
the
recommendation
of
the
legislative
council
added
that
any
other
sexually
related
crime
would
be
included
in
there
again.
The
three-year
limit
on
controlled
substance,
offenses,
section
five
of
the
bill
relates
to
state-operated
children's
mental
health
facilities.
H
Some
other
changes
in
the
bill,
so
in
juvenile
justice
and
children's
mental
health,
we
could
charge
the
applicant
for
the
the
background
check.
That
was
not
true
in
child
welfare,
and
so
that
has
been
added
in
section
three
and
sections
two
and
six
note
that
pending
charges
for
specific
crimes
may
also
allow
the
agency
to
terminate
not
necessarily
require
but
allow
the
agency
to
terminate
if
there
are
pending
charges.
H
I
can
tell
you
that
no
agency
thinks,
when
they
come
up
with
agency
bill.
They're
gonna
be
the
first
bill
out
of
the
gate,
and
so
since
this
bill
language
became
public
we've
heard
from
a
couple
stakeholders.
The
first
is
argentine
partners
and
they
submitted
some
ideas.
H
I
think
our
end
vision
for
this
particular
bill
is
to
have
consistency
across
the
board,
so
we
have
career
pathways
and-
and
it's
just
administratively
easier
to
get
people
on
board
or
to
have
them
shift
through
different
areas,
but
then
also
to
start
a
conversation
really
about
what
are
those
crimes
in
someone's
past?
That
are
relevant
to
their
current.
H
You
know
threat
to
health
and
safety
and
working
in
our
agency,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
that
conversation,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
committee
might
have,
and
so
with
that
chair
I
will
open
it
up
for
any
questions
or
comments
or
thoughts.
A
All
right,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
members
of
the
committee
to
utilize
their
raise
hand
button
if
they
have
a
question
when
you
are
in
our
meeting.
If
you
look
down
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen,
there
is
little
reactions
button.
If
you
click
on
that
at
the
bottom,
there's
an
option
to
raise
your
hand
when
I
click
on
mine,
my
hand
goes
up
and
then
I
can
lower
my
hand
when
I've
been
called
on.
A
D
C
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
bringing
the
bill.
This
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
just
have
one
question,
and
that
is
with
respect
to
my
understanding
is
most
of
the
employees
that
are
involved
in
in
the
higher.
Are
that
will
be
hired
and
fired,
are
subject
to
a
cba,
and
there
are
gonna
be
some.
I
would
imagine
some
due
process
questions
if
we
are
terminating
employment
based
on
a
pending
charge,
as
opposed
to
someone
who's
been
found
guilty
of
a
charge.
C
H
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
the
the
language
that
talks
about
the
pending
charges-
and
you
know
in
my
mind
a
pending
charge-
is
there's
been
an
arrest
and
we're
waiting
for
the
district
attorney
to
to
file
those
charges.
The
language
says
that
the
institution
or
agency
may
terminate
the
employee
not
that
they
must,
and
so
it
would
be
subject
then,
to
those
due
process,
things
in
any
sort
of
collecting
collective
bargaining
agreement
that
may
be
coming.
H
I'm
sure
you're
aware
we
don't
have
those
terms
yet
or
know
what
that
agreement
will
look
like,
but
that
will
be
you
know.
So
so
it's
not
a
mandatory
determination,
it's
it's
a
may,
terminate
and
and
could
be
done
through
the
lens
of
the
collective
bargaining
agreement
or
what
we
already
have.
I
mean
the
state
already
has
a
process
for
employees
to
appeal
disciplinary
measures,
including
termination.
So
you
know
there
being
evaluation
through
that
process.
H
C
And
I
appreciate
that
then,
and
I
recognize
it's
not
mandatory-
it's
discretionary,
but
for
purposes
of
trying
to
figure
out
how
this
is
going
to
play
forward.
You
assume
that
the
employer,
the
the
person
with
that
responsibility,
decides
to
terminate
employment
without
any
kind
of
conviction
and
I've
never
seen
a
cba
agreement.
Allow
for
that.
So
is
it!
My
do.
I
understand
correctly
that
even
though
it
may
be
in
statute
that
they
may
terminate
that
will
actually
be
subject
to
whatever
collective
bargaining
agreement
may
exist
today
or
may
exist
in
the
future.
H
Getting
ross
armstrong
for
the
record,
you
know
I
I
can't
comment
because
I
don't
have
any
knowledge
about.
You
know
the
pending
collective
bargaining
agreement.
I
know
in
our
current
process
any
decision
to
terminate
there's
an
ability
to
appeal
through
an
independent
hearings,
offer
officer
to
determine
if
it
was
allowable.
H
You
know
so
the
in
this
case.
Since
the
statute
permits
it,
you
know,
I
think
we
would
have
a
pretty
good
chance
of
succeeding
on
the
determination
you
know
if
they,
I
would
certainly
think
too.
If
the
district
attorney's
office
in
this
case
or
city
attorney's
office,
who's
ever
doing,
the
prosecution
determines
not
to
you
know
not
to
go
forward
with
actual
prosecution
that
it
would
be
that
termination
would
be
withdrawn
or
potentially
overturn.
C
All
right,
I'm
just
trying
to
determine
if
we're
looking
at
more
litigation
than
we
already
have
so,
but
I'll
interpret
that
as
yes,
it
would
be
subject
to
a
cva
process.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
and
actually
that
raised
a
question
for
me
as
well,
mr
armstrong,
because
you
said
that
a
pending
charge
would
be
the
the
time
period
between
which
somebody
was
arrested
or
sighted,
and
when
the
district
attorney
the
city
attorney
the
ag's
office
or
prosecuting
agency
filed
the
charging
document,
but
wouldn't
a
charge
also
be
pending.
Between
the
time
the
charging
document
is
filed
and
the
time
of
conviction.
H
Ross
armstrong
from
the
record.
Yes,
sorry
thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
For
me
in
my
mind,
you
know
when
we
think
about
the
intersection
of
criminal
procedure
and
taking
a
look
at
employment
decisions.
There's
you
know
you
can
make
a
decision
based
on
an
arrest
or
if
there's
you
know,
pending
charges
and
then
conviction
so
yeah.
I
think
it
would
include
that
entire
time
frame
from
post
arrest
to
to
a
determination
of
conviction
or
exoneration.
A
So
to
clarify,
if
somebody
were
to
be
arrested
and
charges
weren't
immediately
filed
and
then
their
arrest
was
known
through
this
from
through
this
background
check
process,
and
let's
say
that
the
charges
were
ultimately
never
filed,
it
would
be
up
to
the
person
who's
being
investigated
to
submit
that
denial
letter
or
that
declined
to
prosecute
letter
to
their
employer,
indicating
that
actually
charges
are
not
being
filed
or
were
never
filed
against
me.
Pursuant
to
this
arrest.
H
Correct
ross
armstrong
for
the
record,
and
it's
similar
to
you
know.
Even
now,
when
we
have
a
you
know
a
background
check,
it
is
not
totally
uncommon
that
there
is
a
situation
where
there's
no
disposition
on
file,
so
we
know
there's
been
an
arrest.
H
Sometimes
it's
super
old
and
there's
no
disposition.
That's
actually
been
entered
into
the
system,
and
so
we
work
collaboratively
with
the
applicant
at
that
point
to
try
to
figure
out
what
occurred.
In
that
case,
whether
there
were
charges,
whether
it
was
dismissed,
maybe
they
were
convicted
and
it
was
later
expunged.
So
it
would
be
that
same
process.
H
In
my
mind
in
this
particular
situation,
you
know,
depending
on
the
nature
of
the
crime
that
would
trigger
these
provisions,
we
would
likely
place
the
employee
first
on
administrative
leave
and
then
continue
to
be
in
contact.
You
know
with
that
employee
to
determine
what
the
status
of
their,
what
the
status
of
those
charges
are.
C
H
Ross
armstrong
for
the
record.
Yes,
cannabis
is
a
particularly
tricky
issue,
because
you
know
it
it,
and
this
is
where
we
see
a
lot
of
old
old
convictions
coming
back
right
now
so
right
now,
if
you
have
a
20-year-old
cannabis
conviction,
then
you're
you're
disqualified,
pursuant
to
the
statute.
So
you
know,
I
think
that
if
they
had
an
actual
violation
where
they
were
convicted
at
this
point,
you
know
they
would
raise
that
card
up
as
a
you
know,
as
a
as
a
defense
in
the
criminal
process.
H
That
would
then
end
to
a
disposition
of
you
know
not
guilty
or
not
charged
so,
but
it
is
the
language
there
that
that
pings,
it
not
only
on
the
state
controlled
substance
but
federal,
controlled
substance
laws
and
puts
us
in
an
issue
sometimes
where
we've
got
really
great
people
that
we
can't
hire
on.
C
I
appreciate
that
I
had
an
additional
question:
if
it's
okay
with
you
chair,
like
page
seven
five,
I
was
wondering
what
is
the
standard
cost
just
because
I'm
not
familiar
with
it,
you
know
what
is
the
standard
cost
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
concern.
Would
this
also
then
apply
to
people
that
need
to
get
welfare
checks
so
forth
for
adopting
of
children
things
of
that
nature?
You
know
I
look
at
some
of
the
times
with
adoption
and
these
people
are
paying
thousands,
sometimes
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars.
C
H
Yeah
ross
I'll
defer
to
miss
vondrak,
because
I
know
she
she
works
with
that.
F
I
F
Yes,
thank
you.
The
average
cost
for
background
check
range
is
between
40
and
80
dollars,
depending
on
the
geographic
location.
C
I
really
appreciate
that
that
gives
me
a
lot
better
comfort
level
I
was
thinking
of
you
know
no
offense,
you
get
into
the
realm
of
you,
know
the
gaming
industry
and
you're
talking.
You
know,
potentially
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
for
background
checks.
I
just
needed
that
frame
of
reference.
Thank
you
for
that
and
thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you
and
for
the
record,
I
believe
that
the
answer
the
question
was
40
to
80
and
if
we
could
get
your
name
again,
yes
answer
the
question.
Sorry
sherry
vondrak
for
the
record,
okay,
and
we
already
have
you
registered
with
us,
so
our
secretary
has
the
spelling
as
we
learn
how
to
figure
out
how
to
keep
proper
records.
Thank
you
thank
you,
chair
and
are
there
any
other
questions.
A
All
right,
then
that
concludes
the
presentation
of
senate
bill
21,
and
we
will
now
move
on
to
testimony
in
support
of
senate
bill
21..
At
this
time
we
will
be
not
physically
but
metaphorically
transitioning
from
video
to
telephone.
So
if
there
anybody
wants
to
testify
regarding
sb
21,
they
should
have
already
registered
with
the
participate
button
provided
their
email
address
and
their
phone
number
have
a
phone
number
to
call
in,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
our
fantastic
staff
at
bps.
If
there
is
anybody
on
the
phone
line
to
testify
in
support
of
sb21.
J
Thank
you
chair.
We
do
have
some
callers
in
the
queue
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
rigmarole
here.
So
give
me
just
one
second
to
testify
in
support
of
the
current
bill
callers
on
the
line,
please
press
star,
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
once
again
to
testify.
It
testify.
Excuse
me
in
support.
Please
press
star
now
star
nine
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue.
J
J
J
I
While
we
think
that
anyone
who
works
with
children
should
have
a
fingerprint
background
checks
and
are
having
conversations
to
move
that
needle
forward,
we
believe
that
sb
21
will
provide
further
protections
for
individuals
who
work
with
children
with
that.
This
bill
will
create
consistency
in
the
statute
to
bring
clarity
to
the
existing
procedures
that
several
state
agencies
currently
participate
in
creating
additional
protections.
J
J
A
All
right,
it
sounds
like
our
caller
and
support
of
sb21
may
have
had
some
written
remarks
that
they
could
submit
to
our
committee
manager
for
publication
as
an
exhibit
to
this
meeting,
and
I
hope
that
they
will
take
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
I
believe
you
just
said
that
there
is
no
one
else
in
the
queue
to
testify
and
support,
so
we
will
move
to
testimony
in
opposition
of
sb21.
J
J
F
Good
afternoon,
chair
scheible,
this
is
holly
welborn
policy
director
for
the
aclu
of
nevada.
It
looks
like
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
fun,
navigating
these
technical
glitches,
but
you
know
we're
all
in
this
together.
I
want
to
make
clear
we
100
support
where
this
bill
is
going
and
the
only
reason
we're
testifying
in
opposition
today
is
given.
You
know,
previous
rules
of
the
committee,
that
if
we
have
any
potential
changes,
but
we
that
we
oppose
the
bill.
F
F
It
puts
folks
into
contact
and
youth
that
are
in
the
justice
system
into
contact
with
individuals
who
have
similar
life
experiences
and
those
employees
can
draw
on
those
experiences
to
provide
better
services
to
children
in
that
justice
system.
But
the
issue
that
we
have
right
now
and
that
we're
working
through
with
administrator
armstrong
is
that
we
can
contemplate
some
circumstances
where
this
could
could
do
some
harm.
F
But
what
we
have
asked
is
to
look
to
see
whether
or
not
making
changes
in
section
one
sub
one
and
you
know
adding
some
of
these
criminal
penalties
in
consideration
of
these
exclusions
and
consideration
of
employment.
F
If
a
that's
going
to
affect
any
current
employees
and
b,
we
also,
you
know,
contemplate
circumstances
and
in
our
experience
in
working
in
this
field,
there
are
a
lot
of
you
know
previous
sex
workers,
who
might
have
a
criminal
offense
from
you
know
decades
ago,
who
are
pursuing.
You
know
a
career
now
in
social
work
who
perhaps
might
want
to
enter
the
field
of
juvenile
justice
and
providing
services
in
that
arena.
F
We've
gone
back
and
forth
on
this,
and
I
do
apologize
for
not
from
presenting
an
amendment
or
conceptual
amendment
today
and
we'll
be
sure
that
we
we
continue
to
do
that
in
the
future,
but
we
just
we're
struggling
in
what
section
this
would
fit
into,
but
what
we
think
the
solution
is
at
this
point
is
to
provide
the
employer
the
discretion
to
override
an
exclusion
from
import
employment
for
good
cause,
and
that
would
address
all
of
the
concerns
we
have
about
this
and
enable
us
to
move
forward
with
this
bill.
F
J
F
J
I
Thank
you,
chair
committee
members,
marcos,
lopez,
americans
for
prosperity,
nevada.
We
stand
in
opposition
as
well
as
is
currently
written
for
similar
reasons,
as
holly
has
talked
about
from
the
aclu.
I
We
do
believe
that
the
time
restriction
is
a
good
policy
reform,
but
the
whole
other
list
of
crimes
are
being
united
to
prohibition.
List
are
not
always
directly
connected
to
the
roles
in
question.
We
believe
that
the
good
here
does
not
outweigh
the
harm
caused
by
adding
so
many
crimes
to
the
list.
Our
pov
is
the
same
as
when
it
comes
to
occupational
licensing.
If
they
must
exist,
any
legal
prohibition
on
someone
working
in
a
particular
career
should
be
directly
connected
to
the
duties
of
the
actual
job,
for
example,
financial
fraud
and
banking
sections.
I
One
and
five
adds
too
many
crimes
to
the
prohibition
list,
and
we
would
completely
agree
that
it
is
the
right
of
the
facility
supervisor
to
not
hire
someone
for
a
job
previously
convicted
of
these
crimes,
but
we
do
not
think
that
it
should
be
a
legal
barrier
to
getting
that
job.
Someone
convicted
of
a
dui
could
have
successfully
turned
their
life
around
and
be
the
best
culture
fit,
or
example,
for
children
in
the
facility,
yet
they
would
still
be
barred
from
employment
under
this
law.
I
J
A
All
right,
thank
you
both
for
your
testimony
and
I
share
in
your
hope
that
you'll
be
able
to
work
with
the
sponsors
of
or
the
authors
of
the
bill
to
come
to
a
resolution
before
our
work
session
on
it
and
as
noted
you'll
submit
a
written
amendment
before
that
work
session.
Are
there
any
testifiers
in
the
neutral
position
on
sb21.
A
All
right,
unless
I've
gotten
so
rusty
in
the
last
18
months,
I've
forgotten
something
I
believe
we
can
close
the
hearing
on
sb
21
again,
nobody
is
yelling
at
me,
physically
or
metaphorically,
so
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
sb
21
and
open
the
hearing
on
sb
71.
K
Bill
afternoon
chairwoman
and
committee
members,
can
you
all
hear
me
perfect
for
the
record.
I
have
the
pleasure
of
being
your
nevada
state,
treasurer
zach
conan.
It's
my
pleasure
to
be
here
this
afternoon
to
present
to
you
senate
bill
71,
broadly
senate
bill.
71
makes
changes
to
nevada's
unclaimed
property
statute
in
an
effort
to
modernize
and
align
nevada's
unclaimed
property
laws
with
national
best
practices
and
the
uniform
law
commission's
revised,
uniform
unclaimed
property
act
or
rupa
pursuant
to
nrs
120a.
The
treasurer's
office
administers
nevada's
unclaimed
property
program.
K
In
this
role,
the
office
takes
custody
of
lost
or
abandoned
property
from
individual
and
business
holders
and
works
to
reunite
it
with
its
rightful
owners
when
property
cannot
be
reunited
with
its
owner,
it
is
held
in
perpetuity
by
the
state.
When
you
all
have
a
free
moment,
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
search
for
yourselves
at
claimitnevada.org,
see
if
the
state
is
holding
on
to
any
money
of
yours
takes
less
than
a
minute
to
search
and
we'll
get
it
back
to
you
at
record
time
for
scope.
K
K
Finally,
when
the
pandemic
began,
our
office
looked
for
ways
we
could
assist
nevadans
who
were
hit
hardest
and
were
struggling.
We
teamed
up
with
dieter
to
use
the
unemployment
insurance
claimant
list
to
cross-reference
our
unclaimed
property
database
to
determine
if
we
were
holding
unclaimed
property
for
any
ui
claimants.
To
date,
this
initiative
has
resulted
in
1.75
million
dollars
in
unclaimed
property
being
returned
to
its
owners.
K
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
sections
two.
Three
and
eight
of
the
bill
adopt
language
from
the
revised
uniform
unclaimed
property
act,
organ
europa
to
better
align,
nevada's
unclaimed
property
laws
with
other
states.
Section
4
of
the
bill
allows
the
office
to
create
a
claim
and
deliver
payment
to
the
owner.
If
we
reasonably
believe
we
have
identified
the
rightful
owner.
K
Currently,
the
statute
requires
the
individual
to
whom
the
property
belongs,
to
file
a
claim
prior
to
delivering
payments,
and
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning
of
the
covet
19
pandemic,
what
we
started
doing
with
theater
claimants,
but
what
this
will
allow
us
to
do
is
automatically
connect
that
claimant
with
their
money.
What
we've
been
doing
is
we
send
them
a
letter
encouraging
them
to
go
file
a
claim,
because
we
believe
that
we've
found
their
money.
This
would
actually
speed
up
the
process
and
make
sure
that
we
can
get
funds
back
to
them
directly.
K
It
also
stops
folks
from
getting
a
random
letter
from
the
state
treasurer's
office
and
thinking
we're
trying
to
scan
them.
We'd
rather
just
send
the
money.
So
our
intent
here
is
to
verify
the
information
and
remit
payment
directly.
However,
given
the
current
requirements
of
the
statute,
we
instead,
like
I
said,
have
to
send
nevadan's
letter.
This
flexibility
will
allow
our
office
to
more
efficiently
reunite
property
owners
with
their
property.
K
Our
intent
is
to
use
this
allowance
under
statute
is
limited
in
controlled
circumstances
like
the
dieter
mentioned
above,
where
we
have
multiple
points
of
personal
information
that
match
our
database.
Things
like
birthdays,
social
security
numbers
names,
addresses
and
phone
numbers
sections,
5,
10,
15
and
17
of
the
bill
simply
make
conforming
changes
to
statute
based
on
other
changes
of
the
bill.
Sections
6
and
7
clarify
the
definition
of
an
account
of
funds
related
to
the
cost
of
burial.
K
This
terminology
was
adopted
last
session
through
senate
bill
44
and,
after
speaking
with
the
industry
and
division
of
insurance
about
implementation,
who
governs
these
pre-need
contracts,
we
determined
that
additional
clarity
was
necessary
to
ensure
the
intent
of
the
law
was
achieved
in
the
language
section.
9
updates
existing
language
regarding
the
delivery
of
safe
deposit
boxes.
Currently,
the
law
requires
that,
once
a
bank
sends
their
report
of
the
safe
deposit
boxes,
they
must
wait
60
days
before
delivering
those
boxes
to
our
office.
K
As
you
can
imagine,
this
creates
inefficiencies
for
our
staff,
as
we
have
to
put
all
safety
deposit
box
work
on
hold
for
two
months.
The
updated
language
will
require
safe
deposit
boxes
to
be
delivered
within
60
days,
thereby
allowing
our
team
to
get
to
work
immediately
once
those
reports
are
received,
section
11
allows
our
office
to
require
proof
that
someone
filing
a
claim
on
behalf
of
an
estate
has
the
proper
authority
to
do
so.
The
section
also
makes
documentation
received
on
behalf
of
a
claimant,
confidential
and
not
subject
to
public
records.
K
Collecting
personal
information
is
necessary
to
verify
a
claimant's
identity
and
their
relationship
to
property.
We've
included
this
change
in
statute
to
assure
nevadans
that
any
personal
information
documentation
they
share
with
us
remains
confidential.
The
inclusion
of
this
language
will
also
save
staff
time
by
allowing
our
processors
to
focus
on
claims
rather
than
rejecting
record
requests
section
12.
This
change
allows
us
to
make
property
available
for
claiming
once
we
receive
it
under
a
distant
existing
law.
K
If
a
holder,
business
remits,
unclaimed
property
prior
to
it,
reaching
the
appropriate
dormancy
period,
usually
three
years,
we
must
hold
on
to
the
property
for
the
same
amount
of
time.
The
business
would
have.
This
issue
most
often
arises
when
a
holder
goes
out
of
business.
Removing
that
requirement
from
the
statute
will
allow
our
office
to
connect
events
with
their
property
when
we
receive
it
as
opposed
to
holding
on
to
it
for
additional
years.
Example.
Here
is,
let's
say,
there's
a
business
that
has
uncashed
payroll
checks.
K
The
business
goes
out
of
business,
but
they
had
that
check
from
last
week.
We
would
need
to
hold
on
to
that
check
for
three
years
before
releasing
it
to
the
person
who
has
it.
We
want
to
speed
up
that
time
frame.
Section
13
allows
our
office
flexibility
in
our
efforts
to
notify
holders
of
an
audit.
We
make
every
effort
available
to
give
reasonable
notice.
However,
in
limited
circumstances,
this
can
be
impractical,
such
as
when
a
holder
has
multiple
locations.
K
It
does
not
respond
to
a
request
to
confirm
the
appropriate
location
to
send
notices
to
or
when
a
holder
never
acknowledges
receipt
of
the
notice.
The
section
also
allows
us
the
ability
to
request
copies
of
a
document
during
an
audit,
rather
than
requiring
our
staff
to
travel
on-site
to
examine
the
originals.
Furthermore,
it
grants
us
the
ability
to
compel
production
of
records
through
an
administrative
subpoena.
These
three
changes
modernize
our
auditing
process
and
focuses
our
auditing
staff's
time
on
identifying
reportable
property
rather
than
administrative,
back
and
forth.
K
Section
14
requires
holders
of
unclaimed
property
to
hold
on
to
backup
documentation
that
verifies
their
non-reporting
of
property.
For
example,
during
the
course
of
an
audit,
it
could
be
found
that
a
holder
had
10
uncashed
checks
that
were
never
reported
or
remitted
to
our
office.
The
holder
could
claim
that
they
cancelled
those
checks
which
would
render
them
worthless
and
not
reportable
as
unclaimed
property
under
existing
law.
There's
nothing
in
statute
that
allows
our
office
to
request
backup
information,
verifying
their
claim
to
prove
the
checks
were
indeed
cancelled.
K
This
would
give
us
the
ability
to
do
so.
Section
16
allows
air
finders
to
receive
a
higher
percentage
of
property
claimed.
Currently,
several
professional
firms
exist
whose
business
is
connecting
individuals
with
their
lost
and
abandoned
property.
These
firms
get
paid
a
percentage
of
the
money
they've
located
through
written
agreements
with
the
property
owners,
existing
law
caps
that
percentage
at
ten
percent.
K
This
change
would
allow
firms
who
connect
owners
of
properties
older
than
five
years
old,
so
most
would
have
been
lost
or
abandoned
for
at
least
eight
years
as
there's
a
three-year
dormancy
period
generally
before
the
property
has
been
turned
over
to
charge
up
to.
20
percent
of
the
property
amount
allowed,
allowing
for
a
higher
commission,
better
incentivizes
those
firms
to
find
and
connect
nevadans
with
missing
money
effectively.
K
What
happens
is
there's
a
period
of
time
where
if
the
trail
goes
cold,
it
becomes
much
more
expensive
for
air
finders
to
connect
funds
to
people,
who've
lost
them,
and
so
they
don't
try
right.
The
juice
isn't
worth
the
squeeze.
The
intention
here
is
to
encourage
them
to
try
and
find
the
air
finders
and
return
their
property
to
them.
I
would
add
we're
continuing
to
work
with
senator
orrinshaw
on
a
possible
amendment
to
this
bill
regarding
some
additional
rope.
Language
we'll
continue
to
commit
the
committee
apprised
of
our
process.
K
This
concludes
our
presentation.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I'm
sorry
that
the
most
exciting
bill
you're
here
this
session
happened
so
early
in
the
process,
but
those
are
the
shakes.
Thank
you
for
considering
senate
bill
71
and
I
happen
to
be
joined
this
afternoon
by
our
deputy
treasurer
for
unclaimed
property.
Linda
tobin,
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
You
have
thanks.
So
much.
A
Thank
you
so
much
treasurer
conan.
I
see
a
couple
of
questions
already.
I'm
gonna
go
with
the
order
that
I
saw
the
hands
go
up
and
we
can
fight
later
about
whether
or
not
that
was
fair,
so
senator
pickard.
I
saw
yours
first.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
a
couple
of
basic
questions
not
as
to
the
details
of
the
bill.
I
I
like
where
this
is
going.
I'm
just
concerned,
I
sit
on
the
uniform
law
commission
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
tell
us
all.
C
The
time
is
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
pass
too
many
amendments
too
quickly
because
number
one
it
doesn't
allow
the
uniform
law
to
mature
and,
for
you
know,
the
50
states
to
figure
it
out
or
those
states
that
have
adopted
it
to
really
figure
out
the
nuances
and
number
two.
If
we
all
start
amending
it,
it
tends
to
go
in
different
directions
and
it
loses
its
uniform
character.
C
So
the
first
question
is:
how
does
this
comport,
with
the
uniform
regulation
of
virtual
currency
act
and
the
supplemental
commercial
law
for
that
act
that
we
passed
last
session?
How
does
this
change?
What
we
just
did.
F
Hello
good
afternoon,
senator
and
committee
members
chair
regarding
the
virtual
currency-
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
specifically
add
into
this
draft
of
the
bill.
Was
the
uniform
commission
definition
of
virtual
currency
in
attempts
to
bring
all
of
those
things
into
more
harmony
and
give
some
clarity
to
our
holders
over
definitions
regarding
virtual
currency.
C
All
right,
thank
you.
So
if
I
understand
then
we're
just
using
the
the
language
from
the
uniform
act,
we're
not
actually
making
any
changes
to
anything
that
we
adopted
in
that
uniform
act.
Is
that
correct.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
The
next
hand
I
saw
was
senator
harris's
and
I'll
advise
members
of
the
committee
that
you
can
also
put
your
hand
back
down
so
that
I
know
that
your
question's
been
answered
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
just
do
one
shot
per
person
on
an
as
needed
basis.
I
may
let
I
may
call
you
a
second
time
if
you
raise
your
hand
a
second
time,
but
for
now,
let's
keep
it
to
once
so
senator
harris.
It
is
your
turn.
I
Thank
you,
cheers
scheible
treasurer
conan,
it's
great
to
see
you
thanks
for
presenting
this
bill
today.
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
question
about
section
two
and
its
inclusion
has:
has
there
been
some
effort
for?
Has
someone
tried
to
claim
the
tokens
from
their
candy
crush
game?
Is
this?
Is
this
something
that's
arisen
or
is
this
kind
of
a
forward-looking
provision.
K
Treasurer
conine
for
the
record.
Well,
I
think
it
covers
two
things
right,
one
is
if
rupa
has
adopted
it,
they're
adopting
it,
because
digital
currencies
exist
in
all
sorts
of
firms,
not
just
extra
lives
in
candy,
crush
or
v
bucks
or
v
coins,
or
whatever
in
fortnite,
but
all
sorts
of
other
dollar
based
coins.
And
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
ahead
of
that,
especially
as
we
look
towards
expanding
nevada's
participation
in
digital
currencies
through
other
economic
development
efforts.
I
And
mount
sheriff
scheible.
Can
I
ask
a
follow-up
really?
Would
this
include?
I
see
the
term
virtual
wallet.
Would
this
include?
Possibly,
I've
got
a
blockchain
kind
of
virtual
wallet
or
you
know
it
exists
solely
in
the
digital
space,
or
is
there
some
way
to
would
this
exempt
that.
K
Treasure
conan
for
the
record.
I
believe
it
encourages
and
includes
all
forms
of
digital
currency,
but
I'll
turn
over
to
deputy
treasurer
tobin.
In
case
I'm
misspeaking.
F
Senator
this
is
linda
tobin
for
the
record,
and
I
apologize
before
I
did
not
state
and
spell
my
name
out.
So
that's
li
nda,
tobin
t-o-b-I-n,
so
there's
actually
two
additional
definitions
somewhat
related,
but
slightly
different
in
section
two.
It
relates
to
the
game
related
digital
content
that
all
refers
to
non-cash
value,
so
those
electric
wallets
or
virtual
wallets
would
be
to
your
point
more
the
candy
crush
style.
F
The
second
definition
added
in
section
three,
is
for
the
virtual
currency,
and
that
is
what
would
be
more
traditionally
related
to
your
cryptocurrency
wallet,
your
blockchain,
your
strictly
digital
value-based
currency
propositions.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
chair,
hi
zach.
How
are
you
I've
got
a
question
actually
going
way
back
my
freshman
year
on
this
committee.
William
horn
was
the
chair
and
we
had
a
bill
back
then
about
virtual.
I
don't
know
it's
still
called
virtual
currency.
Essentially,
at
that
time
people
would
take
100
bucks
and
you'd
get
a
gaming.
You
know
100
gaming,
whatever
it
would
be
that
they
put
in
the
machines
and
they
would
frequently
only
use
a
98
and
that
ended
up
being
put
into
some
kind
of
unclaimed
property
thing
at
that
time.
I
K
Thank
you
senator
treasurer
conan
for
the
record
you're
referring
to
take
it
in,
take
it
out
or
tito.
Also
one
of
the
jacksons
I'll
turn
it
over
to
our
chief,
deputy
or
deputy
treasurer.
Excuse
me,
linda
tobin,
with
regards
to
the
financial
impact.
If
she
happens
to
have
that
on
hand,
otherwise
we
can
turn
it
over
offline,
but
this
and
that
are
not
related,
but
deputy,
treasurer
tobin.
F
Yes,
hello,
linda
tobin,
for
the
record
regarding
slot
machine
ketos.
Those
have
not
come
to
unclaimed
property
for
quite
some
time.
The
gaming
control
board
and
commission
adopted
regulations.
I
want
to
say
around
2011
ish,
whereby
they
had
specific
tax
reporting
requirements
for
those
titos
and
they
are
100
percent
accounted
for
through
the
gaming
control
board.
I
A
Thank
you.
Senator
hansen,
your
history.
Lessons
are
one
of
the
best
parts
of
having
you
on
committee,
so
I
appreciate
it
and
if
there
are
no
further
questions
comments,
then.
A
A
And
our
recess
is
over,
bell
has
rung
metaphorically
and
back,
and
at
this
point
in
time
we
will
open
the
floor
up
for
testimony
in
support
of
sb
71
again.
This
is
the
time
where
we
transition
from
the
video
conference
to
the
phone
lines
and
our
fantastic
staff
at
bps
will
tell
us
if
there
are
people
in
the
queue.
A
All
right,
if
anybody
logs
in
in
support,
we
will
take
them
out
of
order.
At
this
time,
we
will
move
to
testimony
in
opposition
to
sb.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
the
next.
We
will
move
to
neutral
testimony
at
this
time.
I
am
going
to
call
directly
on
senator
orenshall.
As
you
heard
treasurer
conan
mentioned.
He
has
a
proposed
amendment
to
this
bill.
I
understand
that
he
and
the
treasurer
are
still
working
through
the
details
of
that
amendment,
but
I
wanted
to
give
him
an
opportunity
to
walk
the
committee
through
at
least
conceptually
the
contents
of
the
amendment
through
the
form
of
neutral
testimony.
E
Thank
you
very
much
a
chair
for
the
record
james
orenshall.
I
represent
state
senate
district
21,
that's
parts
of
henderson
and
unincorporated
clark
county
with
me
today,
chair,
I
have
caitlyn
wolfe,
who
is
the
legislative
council
for
the
national
conference
of
commissioners
on
uniform
state
laws,
also
called
the
uniform
law
commission.
The
uniform
law
commission
is
a
non-profit
nonpartisan
organization
that
actually
dates
back
to
1892.
E
When
a
group
of
12
practicing
attorneys,
I
believe
from
seven
different
states
got
together
and
worked
on
the
goal
of
where
state
law,
if
it
is
uniform,
would
be
of
assistance
to
our
constituents
in
whether
it's
commerce
went
on
to
become
in
domestic
relations,
family
law
and
many
other
areas
where
having
some
degree
of
uniformity
across
state
lines
is
a
benefit.
States
still
have
the
right
to
be.
You
know
individual
in
terms
of
the
state
laws
they
have
just
like.
We
have.
E
You
know
legal
gambling
in
nevada
and
other
states
don't,
but
there
are
many
areas
where
uniformity
is
a
benefit
to
our
citizens
and
probably
the
most
famous
law.
That
many
of
us
know
about
is
the
uniform
commercial
code
which
really
aided
commerce
and
business,
especially
in
the
pre-digital
era.
In
terms
of
people,
you
know
using
checks
from
banks
and
other
states
and
making
purchases
across
state
lines.
I
want
to
thank
treasurer
conan
and
his
staff
for
working
with
me
and
some
of
the
other
uniformed
law,
commissioners
from
nevada
on
the
proposed
amendment.
E
The
amendment
that
I've
submitted
on
nellis
for
everyone's
view
makes
references
to
some
portions
of
the
revised
uniform
unclaimed
property
act
that
if,
if
the
committee
considers
adopting,
if
the
treasurer
considers
adopting,
would
help
harmonize
nevada
statutes
with
the
recent
revisions
in
1996.,
the
original
uniform
unclaimed
property
act
dates
back
to
1954..
Since
then,
I
believe
over
40
states
have
enacted
some
version
of
the
uniform
unclaimed
property
act
nevada.
E
I
believe,
initially
enacted
the
uniform
unclaimed
property
act
in
1979,
and
there
have
been
some
revisions
and
some
updates
through
the
years
to
comport,
with
some
changes
and
updates
that
were
promulgated
by
the
uniform
law.
Commissioners.
They
meet
every
year
and
delegates
from
all
the
states
who
are
practicing
attorneys.
Some
of
them
are
law
professors.
Some
are
judges,
some
are
legislators,
get
together
and
discuss
these
acts
and
they
actually
have
meetings
where
they
go.
E
E
If
you're
a
legal
nerd
like
me,
so
it's
it's
tremendous
and
they
really
work
hard
on
trying
to
make
sure
they
get
it
right
and
they
propose
something
to
the
states
that
tries
to
be
a
benefit
to
our
our
constituents,
chair
with
your
permission,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
caitlyn
wolfe
legislative
council
from
the
uniform
law
commission
to
walk
us
through
the
amendment
and
to
answer
any
questions,
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
as
well.
A
That
is
fine
with
me,
ms
wolf.
I
saw
earlier.
L
Hey
there
hi
there
hi
chair,
schneider,
schaible
members
of
the
committee,
treasurer
conan.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
with
everybody.
L
As
senator
orrin
shall
said,
I
serve
as
legislative
counsel
to
the
uniform
law
commission
in
chicago
and
as
part
of
my
role,
I
work
with
states
as
they
consider
enacting
our
uniform
acts
and
the
revised
uniform
unclaimed
property
act
takes
up
quite
a
bit
of
my
time.
I
I
enjoyed
a
great
deal.
I
spend
a
lot
of
my
time,
speaking
with
administrators
and
their
staffs
legislators,
about
what
is
unclaimed
property
law.
What
is
rupa
and
what
does
it
do?
L
L
Folks
from
administrators,
consumer
groups,
holder
groups,
business
groups
that
took
part
in
this
process-
and
I
will
just
run
through
a
couple
of
quick-
highlights
some
of
the
benefits
of
rupa-
that
we
hope
would
be
incorporated
into
senate
bill
71
in
the
form
of
a
friendly
amendment,
and
then,
of
course,
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
from
the
committee.
So
again
just
a
high
level
overview
of
some
of
the
benefits
included
in
rupa.
L
So
we
provide
specific
dormancy
periods,
which
of
course
means
how
long
the
holder
needs
to
keep
on
holding
on
to
property
before
transferring
it
to
the
custody
of
the
state.
We
address
this
for
many
new
types
of
property
in
rupa.
We
also
provide
clearer
rules
for
cooperation
between
different
states
to
locate
owners
and
how
to
resolve
competing
claims
by
states
over
the
same
property.
More
robust
provisions
for
international
cooperation
as
well
again
rupa
is
the
latest
iteration
of
our
unclaimed
property
act.
L
As
senator
orrinshaw
pointed
out,
the
earlier
version
of
of
the
unclaimed
property
act
is
from
1995
and,
as
we
all
know,
there's
been
such
an
enormous
change
in
technology
and
capability
since
then.
So
we
also
pay
close
attention
in
rupa
to
providing
clear
rules
regarding
confidentiality
and
security
of
information
regarding
unclaimed
property,
recognizing
that
many
of
our
records
related
to
unclaimed
property
right
now
are
electronic.
L
We
enhance
efficiency
for
notifying
potential
owners
processing
their
claims
again
by
utilizing
the
internet
and
electronic
records,
which
we
really
didn't
have
back
in
1995.
We
also
include
some
remedies
for
holders
such
as
informal
conferences
between
a
holder
and
the
unclaimed
property
administrator,
including
judicial
and
administrative
review.
L
We
also
increase
civil
penalties
for
really
egregious
conduct
of
holders
who
have
intentionally
and
unreasonably
refused
to
transfer
abandoned
property
over
to
the
state.
Again,
that's
just
sort
of
a
high
level
overview.
I
realize
you
don't
have
specific
amendment
language
in
front
of
you
to
review,
but
those
are
some
of
the
main
updates
and
main
benefits
that
are
contained
in
rupa
that
we
would
hope
that
both
the
treasurer
and
the
committee
would
consider
in
the
form
of
a
friendly
amendment,
and
with
that
I
am
again
delighted
to
be
here
with
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation
and
I
will
entertain
questions
at
this
time
from
members
of
the
committee.
A
G
I
guess
my
struggle
is,
or
I
guess
what
I
would
ask
of
the
folks
working
on
this
bill
is
to
talk
through
some
of
these
particular
items,
because,
generally,
I
think
talking
about
uniform
laws
or
arupa.
We,
I
think
on
this
committee
all
are
very
familiar
with
uniform
laws
and
and
the
fact
that
we
have
them,
but
we
have
not
been
adopting
in
wholesale
just
some
of
these
uniform
laws.
G
It
looks
like
there
are
some
specific
pieces
here
that
may
need
to
be
discussed
with
the
treasurer's
office,
and-
and
so
I
guess
this
is
not
really
a
question
so
much
as
it
is
a
a
request
in
a
concern
to
go
through
these
specific
items,
because
this
this
this
to
me,
doesn't
appear
as
though
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
adopt
all
of
rupa.
G
I
think
that
would
substantially
change
the
way
in
which
our
treasurer's
office
and
how
they
handle
unclaimed
property
works
and
is
a
much
different
conversation
than
what
is
contained
in
this
conceptual
amendment.
So
I
just
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
more
about
those
specific
conversations
and
how
it
would
be
how
we
could
still
allow
for
the
treasurer's
office
to
continue
to
do
the
good
work
that
they're
doing
and
not
just
a
discussion
about
wholesale
adoption
of
rupa,
which
looks
like
it's
been
done
in
five
states.
A
K
Sure
thank
chair,
and
I
appreciate
that
comment
vice
chair
and
I
appreciate
senator
orrin
shaw
and
miss
wolf
for
bringing
this
kind
of
thing
forward.
I
think
this
type
of
conversation
is
important
in
a
real
broad
sense.
Our
intention
with
this
bdr
now
this
bill
was
to
adopt
pieces
of
ropa
that
could
be
adopted
without
costs
to
the
agency
right
without
having
to
change
the
ways
that
we
currently
work
without
having
to
reformat,
rebuild
or
completely
replace
systems,
and
without
removing
language
that
currently
exists
to
protect
nevadans
and
nevada
businesses.
K
Things
that
have
come
apart,
specifically
for
nevada
to
chair.
Excuse
me
to
vice
chair
canazaro's
point
five.
I
think,
or
six
other
states
have
fully
adopted.
Ropa
we've
adopted
a
number
of
parts
to
it
and
continue
to
try
and
move
away
from
the
entropy.
That
is
individual
state
laws
and
into
the
uniform
code.
But
I
think
it's
really
important
that
as
we
do
that
we're
looking
specifically
at
language
to
determine
where
we
think
it'll
be
detrimental
to
nevadans
or
prohibitively
expensive
right,
I
mean
a
minor
change
in
law.
K
To
get
closer
to,
rupa
might
not
be
worth
the
squeeze.
If
it
requires
a
full
sale,
multi-million
dollar
change
to
our
system
right.
So
what
we've
committed
to
do
offline
is
to
have
a
conversation
with
senator
orange
hall
and
anybody
else
who
wants
to
be
part
of
it
to
go
through
each
of
these
items
specifically
and
discuss
why
we
didn't
include
them
in
the
first
bill
when
they
were
requested,
and
obviously
we
know
what
what
is
in
europa
and
look
for
ways
that
we
can
get
closer
to
it.
K
A
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
work
together
and
it
sounds
like
you
guys
are
on
the
road
to
a
friendly
amendment
and
it
looks
like
senator
orrinshaw
wants
to
weigh
in
again.
E
You're
still
thank
you,
chair.
Thank
you
and
again.
I
want
to
thank
the
treasurer
and
his
staff
they've
been
so
great
to
work
with,
and
I
know
that
I
you
know.
Sometimes
it's
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
process
working
on
these
and
you
know.
E
I
think
that
what
is
promulgated
by
the
uniform
law,
commissioners,
you
know,
does
help
in
terms
of
especially
where
issues
are
across
state
lines
where
someone
you
know,
might
have
property
in
more
than
one
state,
and
I
understand
it,
may
there
may
be
a
cost
to
some
of
this.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
the
treasurer
and
thank
you
for
working
with
me
and
some
of
the
other
commissioners
from
nevada.
Ms
wolf.
A
A
J
Sure
this
is
bryce
with
broadcast.
Sorry
about
that.
We
had
a
little
hiccup
there,
I'm
just
gonna,
if
it's
all
right
with
you
I'll,
just
roll
the
the
all
through
the
opposition
and
the
support.
If
that's
okay,.
A
J
J
Cube
seeing
none
in
support
to
take
and
to
excuse
me
to
testify
in
opposition
of
sp
71,
please
press
star
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
once
again
caller.
If
you
were
calling
to
give
testimony
in
opposition
to
the
bill
sb71,
please
press
star
9!
Now
you
take
your
place
in
the
queue.
J
A
Thank
you
so
much
esteemed
staff,
whose
name
does
not
pop
up
on
my
screen
nor
your
face,
and
I
don't
know
your
voices
yet,
but
we
appreciate
you
and
with
that
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
sb
71
and
we
will
move
on
to
our
last
item
on
today's
agenda
public
comment.
J
Sure
thing:
thank
you,
chair,
sorry
about
the
interruption,
just
checking
here,
caller
with
the
last
three
digits
of
one
zero.
Seven,
if
you
are
giving
public
comment
at
this
time,
please
press
star
nine
now
to
take
your
place
in.
J
F
Boom
for
the
record,
my
name
is
mona.
Lisa
samuelson
and
I
represent
medical
cannabis
patients
living
here
in
nevada,
and
I'm
calling
in
to
thank
senator
sotomayor.
I
think
it
was
for
looking
out
for
nevada's
medical
cannabis
patients.
His
questions
regarding
senate
bill
21,
I
think,
are
important
ones,
and
I
wanted
to
review
it
reiterate
how
important
it
is
that
nevada
doesn't
penalize
its
most
vulnerable
population,
medical
cannabis.
Patients
deserve
an
equal
opportunity
for
meaningful
community
engagement
because
we're
not
criminals.
F
A
Okay,
well
we'll
try
to
do
better
next
time
and
if
there's
nobody
else
in
line
for
public
comment
and
there's
nothing
else
from
any
members
of
the
committee,
I
will
give
you
five
seconds
to
speak
now
or
hold
your
peace
until
1
pm
tomorrow.