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A
Good
afternoon,
the
senate
committee
on
natural
resources
will
now
come
to
order,
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to
those
in
carson
city
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and
by
phone,
and
will
our
secretary
please
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to
call
the
roll.
A
And
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here
on,
please
mark
vice
chair
scheible
excused
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now
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she
shows
up
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we've
reached
the
quorum.
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you
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agenda
and
today
the
committee
will
be
hearing
four
assembly
bills.
We
have
ab6
ab52,
ab-72
and
agr3
I'm
going
to
take
agr3.
A
First,
we
have
because
assemblywoman
gonzalez
will
be
presenting
that
bill
and
needs
to
be
in
the
assembly
committee
on
legislative
operations
and
elections
soon.
So
again,
thank
you
all
for
your
understanding,
as
we
strive
to
complete
our
work
with
the
remaining
35
days
in
this
session.
So
at
this
time
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
joint
resolution.
3..
This
measure
urges
various
actions
relating
to
the
protection
and
conservation
of
land
and
water.
A
D
D
ajr3
attempts
to
address
climate
change
by
urging
the
united
states
congress
to
help
designate
30
percent
of
nevada's
land
and
water
to
be
protect
protected
by
the
year.
2030.,
as
as
chair
has
mentioned
with
me
today,
is
chris
christie,
cabrera
the
policy
and
advocacy
director
for
the
nevada
conservation
league
and
with
the
chair's
permission,
I
would
first
like
to
provide
some
background
information
and
a
short
summary
of
the
resolution.
D
Before
I
hand
it
off
to
ms
cabrera,
who
will
go
into
more
specifics
of
the
bill,
the
conservation
community,
along
with
scientists,
have
long
called
for
the
ambitious
conservation
goals
to
address
both
climate
change
and
the
extent
I
cannot
pronounce
this
word
extinction.
Apologies
of
endangered
species,
specifically,
they
have
called
for
a
long-term
goal
of
conserving
and
sustaining
managing
half
of
the
planet.
By
2050..
D
To
achieve
that
long-term
goal,
they
have
set
a
target
of
conserving
30
of
land
and
coastal
seas
by
the
year
2030..
This
has
been
called
the
30
by
30
target.
The
current
white
house
administration
issued
an
executive
order
in
january
to
address
the
climate
crisis
by
ordering
a
pause
on
new
oil
and
gas
leases
on
public
lands
and
has
committed
to
the
30
by
30
target.
D
The
majority
of
americans
in
the
western
u.s
support
the
national
target
of
30
by
30.
Specifically,
recent
polls
found
almost
three-quarters
of
voters
are
in
support
of
this
target.
Furthermore,
nevada's
abundance
of
public
lands
itself
lends
to
follow
the
scientific
community's
recommendations.
Currently,
we
only
have
around
15
percent
of
lands
protected
in
our
state.
D
D
Assembly
joint
resolution
3
expresses
support
for
the
global
for
the
goal
of
protecting
30
of
lands
and
water
in
nevada,
as
well
as
the
united
states
by
the
year
2030..
The
resolution
urges
congress
and
the
biden
administration
to
support
a
long-term
goal
of
protecting
half
of
the
planet
by
the
year.
2050.,
the
resolution
further
urges
state
and
local
agencies
to
work
cooperatively
with
federal
agencies
to
protect
30
percent
of
the
land
and
water.
D
D
English
is
not
my
first
language
and
lastly,
ajr3
urges
federal
state
and
local
agencies
to
work
with
the
nevada
congressional
delegation
to
identify
opportunities
for
federal
legislation
and
regulatory
action
to
expand
protection
and
conservation
measures
on
public
lands
in
nevada.
D
E
C-H-R-I-S-T-I-C-A-B-R-E-R-A
and
I'm
the
policy
and
advocacy
director
for
the
nevada
conservation
league,
I'd
like
to
take
some
time
to
touch
on
why
the
30
by
30
initiative
is
important
across
the
country
as
well
as
in
our
great
state,
we're
facing
a
massive
environmental
crisis.
Every
30
seconds,
a
football
field
worth
of
america's
natural
area
disappears.
E
At
least
one-third
of
american
wildlife
are
at
increased
risk
of
extinction,
and
climate
change
is
already
having
disastrous
impacts
across
the
globe.
Nevada
is
on
the
front
line
of
these
crises.
Our
state
has
lost
more
than
9
million
acres
of
wildlife
habitat
to
wildfires
in
the
last
two
decades,
and
we
rank
third
in
the
nation
for
a
number
of
species
at
risk.
Nevada
is
also
home
to
two
of
the
fastest
warming
cities
in
the
united
states
to
fend
off
these
crises.
E
E
E
A
recent
report
out
of
the
university
of
cambridge,
found
that
the
economic
benefits
of
the
30
by
30
goal
outweigh
the
cost
by
a
ratio
of
at
least
five
to
one.
The
report
also
shows
that
protection
in
today's
economy
brings
in
more
revenue
than
the
alternatives
and
likely
adds
revenue
to
agriculture
and
forestry
while
preventing
climate
change,
water
crises,
biodiversity
loss
and
disease.
E
E
The
30
by
30
goal
has
widespread
support
across
the
country
as
well
as
in
our
state.
In
january,
450
bipartisan
officials
from
43
states
signed
on
to
an
open
letter
supporting
the
national
30
by
30
goal,
and
last
month,
70
mayors
from
across
the
country
published
a
similar
letter.
Looking
at
nevada.
Two
county
commissioners,
two
mayors
and
11
legislators,
signed
on
to
these
letters
and
just
last
week,
clark,
county
commission
unanimously
approved
a
resolution
supporting
the
30
by
30
goal.
E
E
It
also
sends
a
message
that
nevadans
want
to
be
active
participants
in
conservation
actions
around
our
state,
our
state's
lands
and
waters,
and
that
those
conversations
and
actions
need
to
have
robust
and
inclusive
stakeholder
processes
in
closing,
conserving
30
percent
of
nevada's
lands
and
waters
by
2030
will
help
our
state
mitigate
climate
change,
impacts,
protect
our
treasured
outdoor
spaces
and
give
a
much
needed
boost
to
our
economy.
The
nevada
conservation
league
and
our
partners
encourage
your
support
on
this
resolution.
E
With
that,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
The
committee
may
have.
A
Thank
you,
ms
cabrera.
Do
we
have
any
questions
from
the
committee
members?
Let's
start
with
senator
brooks.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
I
I
just
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
in
the,
whereas
section
page
two
be
like
lines
12
through
16.,
it
says
the
conservation
land
of
water
in
the
state
may
be
accomplished
through
combination
of
federal
and
state
action,
including
without
limitation
designating
or
establishing
wilderness
areas.
National
parks,
state
parks,
wildlife
management
areas
now
and
are
there
other,
is
the
intent
of
this.
This
resolution
to
have
other
methods
of
keeping
our
public
lands.
You
know
available
to
be
used
beyond
those
those
methods
right.
F
E
Yes,
so
that
that's
not
an
inclusive
list,
it
you
can
have
other
designations
and
in
this
whole
the
whole
point
of
the
resolution
is
to
really
start
that
conversation
and
have
nevadans
be
the
ones
deciding
what
what
means
protected
for
our
state.
Specifically,
I
know
the
department
of
interior
is
supposed
to
release
a
report
any
day
now
on
what
they
would
like
to
see
under
that
definition
of
protection.
E
But
what
we're
saying
is
it's
really
important
for
nevadans
to
be
included
in
that
conversation
when
it
comes
to
our
state
and
while,
while
we
move
forward
to
protect
30
of
our
lands,
what
what
exactly
does
that
mean
for
nevada?
Because
we
are
a
very
unique
state
with
how
much
of
our
land
is
federally
owned
in
public
lands?.
F
And
to
that
point
we
do
have,
as
you
note
in
the
as
is
noted
in
this.
This
proclamation
70.2
million
acres
of
federally
controlled
lands,
and
so
do
you
see
multiple
use,
mandates
and
multiple
uses
in
conflict
with
the
30
percent
of
land
that
we
want
to
protect,
because
we
currently
have
ways
that
we've
protected
and
designated
lands.
E
Christy
cabrera
for
the
record
through
chair
jonathan
to
senator,
brooks
I
that's
that's
correct,
so
we
we
are
able
to
see
multiple
uses
in
areas
and
that
that
exists
now
under
things
that
are
designated,
and
I
don't
see
that
going
away
in
the
future,
so
the
lands
that
are
already
designated
for
protection,
whether
that
just
be
a
national
recreation
area
or
wilderness
that
have
those
designation
and
those
multiple
uses.
E
Those
would
continue
similar
to
the
way
if
areas
designated
as
wilderness,
mining
or
not
mining,
sorry
grazing
is
grandfathered
in
and
they're
allowed
to
continue
doing,
that.
That
would
continue
and
we're
not
trying
to
shut
off
activities
that
have
already
been
done
in
some
of
these
places,
especially
if
they're
already
designated
any
of
those
activities
should
continue.
A
G
E
Christie
cabrera
through
the
record
to
senator
guy
cochia
when
we're
talking
about
water
conservation.
In
this
context,
we're
not
talking
about
quantity
of
water,
so
we're
not
saying
x,
number
of
acre
feet
need
to
be
conserved.
It's
more
about
talking
about
water
bodies,
so
making
sure
that
30
percent
of
our
streams,
our
lakes,
our
big
water
bodies,
are
protected
from
degradation.
E
So
I'm
we're
not
trying
to
curtail
anyone's
water,
we're
not
taking
any
water
rights
away.
It's
really
about
protecting
the
land
and
those
water
bodies.
A
And
senator
gokuje
before
you
do
a
follow-up
question
just
for
the
record
of
senator
viceroy
scheible
has
entered
the
meeting.
So
if
that
we
can
reflect
that,
thank
you
senator
quickly.
G
H
H
My
question
is:
we
have
actually
been
doing
conservation.
In
fact,
the
blm
and
the
forest
service
have
been
for
over
a
hundred
years,
been
aggressively
addressing
conservation
measures
and,
in
fact,
it's
under
their
watch
that
the
nine
million
acres
a
fire
occurred
that
the
one-third
of
the
wildlife
face
extinction
has
been
under
their
watch
you're
actually
proposing,
though,
that
we
expand
the
amount
of
federal
oversight
of
the
public
domain
of
the
state
of
nevada.
How
much
more
can
you
have
than
you
have
now.
E
Christie
cabrera
to
the
r
for
the
record
to
senator
hansen
when
we're
talking
about
wildfires,
I'm
not
saying
that
those
areas
are
never
going
to
be
fixed
and
a
huge
part
of
the
30
by
30
movement
is
also
restoring
areas
so
helping
with
reseeding
and
stuff
like
that
in
areas
that
have
had
pretty
significant
wildfires.
E
As
for
transferring
more
land
to
the
federal
government
that
that's
not
the
intent
of
the
resolution
or
of
the
movement,
it's
it's
more
to
give
a
higher
level
of
protection
to
already
areas
that
are
already
under
federal
management.
So
just
areas
that
were
normally
just
public
lands,
maybe
designating
those
as
a
national
recreation
area
or
a
national
monument.
Depending
on
on
what
kind
of
designation
makes
sense.
There.
H
That
would
basically
be
expanding
the
amount
of
federal
oversight
over
the
federal
public
domain
of
the
state
of
nevada.
That's
my
point.
I
mean
the
more
we've
given
to
them,
the
worst
things
they've
got
in
the
state
of
nevada,
and
I-
and
I
can
give
you
example
after
example,
but
I
don't
want
to
I
mean
this.
This
whole
thing
it
starts
with
a
flawed
premise
too.
On
the
whole
idea
of
climate
change
and
carbon
dioxide
poisoning,
I
mean
there's
just
almost
so
much
that
we
could
cover.
H
I
could
cover
and
and
have
a
discussion
with
you
for
an
hour.
So
all
I
want
to
say
at
this
point
is
we
have
in
nevada
over
the
last
100
years,
dramatically
expanded
the
oversight
and
control
by
the
federal
government
of
the
public
domain
of
the
state,
and
things
have
got
expense
extensively
worse
by
your
own
definition.
Yet
here
we
are
rather
than
expanding
the
amount
of
state
control
and
private
control
of
those
same
resources.
A
Thank
you
senator
hansen,
mr
cabrera.
I
have
one
follow-up
question
to
that.
Have
you
so
I
I
know
that,
based
on
the
exhibits
and
the
letters
that
we've
received,
there's
some
opposition
that
has
come
through
from
rural
counties
and
rural
communities.
Have
you
done
that
outreach
to
them
to
address
some
of
those
concerns
that
they've
illustrated
or
what
has
that
conversation
been
like.
E
A
Seeing
none,
I
think,
we're
good
for
now
and
I
believe
there
are
no
other
presenters
correct
before
we
go
to
the
phone
lines,
we're
good
all
right.
As
a
reminder,
we
will
be
limiting
all
testifiers
to
two
minutes.
Each
and
testifiers
are
encouraged
to
summarize
their
positions
and
submit
more
comprehensive
testimony
in
writing.
Bps
well
before
we
go
to
the
phone
lines,
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
wishing
to
provide
support
testimony
at
this
time?
C
I
Hi
good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
will
pragman
with
battleborn
progress.
W-I-L-L-P
like
peter
r-e-g-m-a-n,
we
stand
in
full
support
of
ajr-3
is
on
the
front
lines
of
issues
that
this
resolution
addresses.
Our
great
state
is
home
to
some
of
the
most
unique
and
valuable
wildlife
species
ranking
a
sixth
in
the
nation
for
the
number
of
unique
species:
ninth
in
mammal
diversity
and
eleventh
in
the
nation
in
total
species
diversity.
I
However,
nevada
is
third
in
the
nation
for
having
the
highest
number
of
species
at
risk
to
confront
the
rapid
loss
of
nevada's
precious
wildlife.
We
must
work
to
accelerate
land
and
water
conservation
and
restoration
efforts
in
nevada.
The
state
commitment
of
30
by
30
would
help
ensure
we
are
protecting
our
wild
heritage
in
nevada.
We
thank
assemblywoman
gonzalez
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
we
encourage
your
support.
Thank.
I
C
J
N-I-C-K-C-H-R-I-S-T-E-N-S-O-N,
I'm
a
volunteer
member
of
the
sierra
club's
legislative
committee
on
behalf
of
the
sierra
club
and
our
more
than
40
000
members
and
supporters
statewide,
I
am
speaking
in
support
of
ajr-3.
The
biden
administration
has
committed
the
united
states
to
protecting
at
least
30
percent
of
the
country's
area
by
2030..
This
overlaps
considerably,
with
what
is
proposed
in
ajr
3.
nevada,
should
do
its
part
and
make
at
least
the
same
commitment
to
protect
this
amount
of
space
within
our
state.
We
have
the
individual
developed
area.
J
We
have
plenty
of
amazing
natural
spaces
that
warrant
additional
protection.
This
is
not
only
good
climate
policy.
It's
good
for
nevada's,
rapidly
growing
outdoor
recreation
industry.
We
already
see
over
capacity
crowds
in
many
places,
such
as
red
rock
canyon.
We
can
use
additional
accessible,
protected
wild
spaces
to
help
avoid
our
existing
spaces
being
loved
to
death.
Two
years
ago,
the
nevada
legislator
passed
a
bill
to
identify
policies
that
will
help
abate
climate
change.
There
are
a
lot
of
steps.
Nevada
could
and
should
take
to
ensure
a
livable
future
in
our
state.
J
Ajr3
would
definitely
be
one
of
these
steps
and,
frankly
it's
one
of
the
easiest
we
can
take
a
appropriately
ajr
3
does
not
stop
with
its
commitment
to
30
by
30..
It
recommends
establishing
a
vikwami
national
monument.
It
advocates
permanent
protection
for
the
desert
national
wildlife
refuge.
These
are
the
positive
developments
for
the
state
and
the
nation
as
part
of
a
broad
commitment
to
our
future.
I
urge
you
to
adopt
ajr3.
C
C
K
K
K
C
C
L
Cheer
donate
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
jane
omon
j-a-I-n-a-m-o-a-n
and
I
am
the
external
affairs
director
for
the
nature
conservancy
in
nevada.
We
are
here
to
testify
in
support
of
ajr-3
the
nature.
Conservancy
strongly
supports
the
goal
to
conserve
30
of
lands,
waters
and
oceans
by
2030.
L
we
provided
a
written
testimony
and
a
fact
sheet
that
offers
guidance
on
how
to
achieve
this
goal,
notably,
we
believe
that
a
broad
definition
of
protection
is
warranted
to
include
conservation
efforts
that
are
inclusive
across
all
land
ownership
types,
public
lands,
private
lands
and
indigenous
lands.
All
ecosystem
types
should
have
a
minimum
level
of
protection
supported
with
effective
management
and
conservation
efforts
should
be
durable
and
equitable.
L
The
conservancy
recommends
that
30
by
30
efforts
should
focus
on
conservation
goals
and
principles
that
could
apply
broadly
across
lands
and
waters.
The
goal
of
30
by
30
is
not
to
transfer
ownership
or
control
over
lands
and
rights
of
way.
Rather,
it
is
to
conserve
wildlife,
habitats
and
biodiversity,
slow
extinction
rates
and
grow
natural
carbon
stocks
by
effectively
conserving
30
percent
of
lands
and
waters
by
2030..
L
Everyone
has
a
stake
in
this
goal.
Our
written
testimony
also
provided
a
conceptual
map
of
resilient
connected
lands
and
waters
in
nevada.
These
are
places
that
have
the
potential
to
offer
refuge
for
species
as
they
move
in
latitude
and
elevation
to
adapt
to
the
effects
of
climate
change.
This
map
is
a
qualitative
analysis.
L
A
lot
of
work
needs
to
be
done
to
achieve
this
goal.
This
resolution
represents
the
first
step,
which
is
a
statement
of
support
for
30
by
30..
The
nature
conservancy
is
committed
to
this
goal
and
we
are
available
to
help
achieve
it
by
providing
our
own
science
mapping
and
support.
We
urge
the
members
of
this
committee
to
vote
yes
for
ajr3.
C
C
L
We
have
an
opportunity
to
treat
our
lands
and
waters
with
the
respect
they
deserve.
Two
of
the
areas
recommended
for
conservation
in
this
resolution,
avi
kwame
and
the
desert
national
wildlife
refuge
are
sites
sacred
to
natives.
This
inclusion
represents
a
new
chapter
in
healing
the
relationship
between
indigenous
people
and
the
state.
C
I
I
am
here
today
to
represent
the
nevada
wildlife
federation
and
would
like
to
express
our
support
for
this
resolution.
Nevadans
share
us
our
cherish.
Our
public
lands
and
landscapes
is
one
of
the
largest
economic
drivers
in
many
rural
communities
providing
approximately
59
000
jobs
and
1.1
billion
dollars
in
state
and
local
tax
revenue
every
year.
I
This
30
by
30
resolution
has
the
potential
to
be
another
historic
conservation,
victory
and
the
nevada
wildlife
federation
is
excited
to
be
a
supporter
of
this
resolution
and
looks
forward
to
further
collaboration
with
various
public
land
advocates
to
protect
areas
of
importance
for
ourselves
and
the
future
generations
yet
to
come.
Thank
you.
C
A
Thank
you
so
much
pps.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
room
wishing
to
provide
opposition
testimony
for
agr3.
B
Good
afternoon,
mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
janine
hanson,
I'm
the
state
president
of
nevada
families
for
freedom.
We
have
serious
concerns
about
this
resolution
and
considered
a
threat
to
the
one
of
the
most
essential
freedoms.
The
inalienable
right
of
private
property.
John
adams
said
the
moment
the
ideas
admitted
into
society.
That
property
is
not
as
sacred
as
the
law
of
god,
and
that
there
is
not
the
force
of
law
and
public
justice
to
protect
it.
Anarchy
and
tyranny
commence.
B
Private
property
owners
are
mentioned
in
the
resolution
only
as
an
afterthought
encouraging
them
to
participate
in
voluntary
programs.
There
is
no
recognition
of
the
critical
importance
of
private
property
to
our
state's
economy
or
the
wonderful
job
that
most
private
landowners
do
to
preserve
our
state's
wildlife
and
resources.
B
The
sponsors
of
this
bill
are
uninformed
about
the
realities
of
the
land
and
water
in
nevada.
The
federal
government
controls
87
percent
of
our
land
and
they
have
mismanaged
it
dreadfully,
resulting
in
destructive
wildfires
loss
of
agricultural
enterprise
prizes,
including
ranching,
and
farming,
and
harmed
innumerable
wildlife
by
destroying
natural
habitat.
B
What
this
resolution
does
not
acknowledge
is
that
there
are
many
current
inheritable
property
rights
on
that
87
percent
of
the
land
controlled
by
the
feds.
These
include
grazing
rights
and
mineral
rights.
In
addition,
the
water
in
the
nevada
is
already
has
legal
water
rights
attached
to
it,
and
there
is
no
water
for
this
outlandish
resolution
to
lock
up
the
goals
of
this
resolution
are
possible
only
if
the
government
plans
to
steal
or
confiscate
the
property
and
water
rights
of
those
who
already
legally
own
it
in
nevada.
B
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else
wishing
in
the
audience
to
provide
up
opposition
testimony
at
this
time,
seeing
none,
let's
go
to
the
phone
lines.
Bps.
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
provide
opposition
testimony
on
the
phone
lines
right
now.
C
M
Martin
paris,
m-a-r-t-I-n-p-a-r-I-s,
chair,
donate
and
members
of
the
committee.
Again
this
is
martin
paris,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada,
cattlemen's
association,
I'm
calling
in
today
to
speak
in
opposition
of
ajr
three.
It's
been
four
months
since
executive
order,
one
four
zero
zero
eight
was
issued,
which
contains
the
thirty
by
thirty
initiative.
In
these
past
four
months.
M
No
further
information
has
been
provided
to
anyone
regarding
the
meaning
objectives
or
implementation
of
the
thirty
by
thirty
program,
without
any
information
were
left
to
assume
that
implementation
of
the
thirty
by
thirteen
initiative
would
ultimately
prescribe
a
protectionism
approach.
Chock
full
of
top
down
decrees
and
land
use
restrictions
based
on
highly
politicized
science
and
wildly
varying
public
opinion,
regardless
of
the
still
unknown
intent
behind
the
30
by
30
proposal.
Working
landscapes
actively
and
properly
managed
from
the
local
level
up
is
what
will
help
us
address.
M
The
issues
identified
in
ajr3,
ranchers
and
farmers
have
worked
for
generations
on
our
landscapes
and
rely
on
and
help
promote
healthy
public
and
private
lands
through
various
conservation
measures.
Livestock
can
be
a
major
tool
in
carbon
carbon
sequestration
and
wildfire
prevention,
but
they
can
only
be
used
as
a
tool
if
we
choose
a
conservationist
approach
to
land
management
as
opposed
to
protectionism,
which
oftentimes
leads
to
protecting
our
landscapes
to
death.
M
C
N
N
Private
property
is
an
important
reason
why
people
left
their
birth
countries
to
come
to
the
new
world
and
they
are
still
trying
to
get
here
today.
Private
property
is
an
important
part
of
our
country
and
it
goes
hand
in
hand
with
our
liberties.
George
washington
wrote
that
quote.
Freedom
and
property
rights
are
inseparable.
N
You
can't
have
one
without
the
other
unquote.
Private
property
owners
have
always
taken
care
of
their
land
and
water,
especially
if
they
make
their
living
on
the
land.
If
they
don't
take
care
of
the
land
and
water,
they
would
be
out
of
business.
To
use
pretty
words
written.
Oh
excuse
me
to
use
pretty
words
like
protecting
the
land
and
water
is
a
bit
deceiving
to
nevada
citizens.
N
C
O
Thank
you,
I'm
jake
tibbetts,
that's
j-a-k-e-t-I-b-b
I-t-t-s,
I'm
the
eureka
county,
natural
resources
manager
representing
eureka
county.
So,
mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
our
perspective
today,
we
asked
the
committee
to
consider
our
submitted
written
testimony
as
well,
which
include
the
letter
that
was
recently
signed
by
15.
Governors
related
to
30
by
30..
O
Eureka
county
is
opposed
to
ajr3.
Our
concern
is
with
the
30
by
30
initiative
itself,
has
a
top-down
decree
being
hyper-partisan
and
alienating
many
rural,
nevadans
and
americans
who
otherwise
support
healthy
lands.
Waters
and
wildlife
30
by
30
will
undoubtedly
end
up
reducing
working
lands,
implementing
hands
off
management,
increasing
wildfires,
reducing
productivity
and
impairing
rural
communities.
O
Scientific
research
has
shown
that
many
areas
we
call
protected
or
wilderness
were
actively
manipulated
by
human
activities.
For
thousands
of
years
we
cited
a
recent
paper
by
18
respected
scientists,
which
found
more
than
95
percent
of
our
temperate
lands
have
been
actively
shaped
by
people
for
at
least
twelve
thousand
years.
O
We
agree
with
the
researchers
conclusion
that
quote:
land
use.
History
confirms
that
empowering
the
environmental
stewardship
of
indigenous
peoples
and
local
communities
will
be
critical
to
conserving
biodiversity
across
the
planet.
End
quote
yet
ajr3
and
the
supporting
testimony
is
about
establishing
land
designations,
proven
to
remove
active
management
and
use
of
man
with
a
false
narrative
about
protecting
the
lands
at
the
national
level.
The
rhetoric
supporting
this
false
narrative
is
also
rampant.
O
O
C
N
N
N
According
to
astrophysicist,
dr
willie,
soon
atmospheric
co2
tends
to
follow
rather
than
lead,
temperature
and
biosphere
changes.
My
point
here
is
that
this
resolution
is
promoting
expensive
and
hefty
government
measures
based
on
climate
science.
That
is
anything
but
settled
next.
This
resolution
is
unconstitutional.
N
N
I
fear
this
resolution
will
depend
upon
the
property
rights
of
nevadans.
Individual
property
rights
must
be
protected.
Finally,
I
believe
that
this
resolution
will
be
economically
problematic
for
rural
counties
and
foster
more
government
ways,
so
I
encourage
you
to
please
oppose
ajr3.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
A
C
P
Thank
you
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
colby
prout,
c-o-l-b-y
p-r-o-u-t,
I'm
the
natural
resources
manager
for
the
nevada
association
of
counties
we'd
like
to
offer
our
testimony
in
the
neutral
position
on
agr3
and
would
like
to
point
out
that
eureka
county,
as
you
just
heard,
did
have
concerns
and
did
submit
opposition
testimony,
and
so
we
do
not
speak
for
them
here.
P
Agr
3
outlines
the
legislature's
support
of
an
admirable
goal
set
out
by
the
biden
administration
to
conserve.
30
percent
of
the
nation's
land
by
2030
nevada's
counties
also
believed
strongly
in
conservation
and
always
have
86
percent
of
nevada's
land
is
managed
by
the
federal
government
and
the
majesty
of
our
natural
resources
are
an
essential
part
of
the
quality
of
life
of
our
communities.
P
Much
of
our
work
at
naco
is
focused
on
making
sure
that
the
federal
government
listens
to
local
concerns
and
coordinates
land
use
and
management
decisions
with
counties.
In
fact,
it's
counties
who
are
often
trying
to
get
the
seat
at
the
table
on
large
federal
projects
that
impact
natural
resources
and
public
lands,
not
the
other
way
around.
P
Furthermore,
county
state
and
federal
interests
are
often
aligned
when
it
comes
to
conservation.
For
instance,
the
recent
clark
county
lands
bill
introduced
by
senator
cortez
masto,
was
the
result
of
extensive
local
consultation
and
conversations
and
demonstrates
just
how
important
these
conversations
in
local
communities
with
local
governments
are.
C
D
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman
gonzales
district
16
for
the
record.
In
closing,
I
just
wanted
to
restate
and
readdress
that
you
know
we
are
not
here
to
take
away
anyone's
property
rights,
land
or
water
rights.
We
are
you
know.
The
intent
of
the
bill
is
to
protect
and
address
the
intense
climate
change
that
our
our
our
state,
our
country
and
our
globe
is
currently
going
through,
and
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
scientific
data
and
facts.
D
What
led
us
to
this,
but
I
am
a
legislator
that
is
committed
to
ensuring
that
everyone's
voice
is
being
heard,
and
so
I
would
love
to
have
those
conversations
with
folks
offline
and
again,
the
intent
of
the
bill
is
to
make
sure
everyone
at
every
level's
voice
is
heard,
which
is
outlined
in
the
resolution.
As
you
all
have.
I
also
sent
the
committee
a
fact
sheet
about
the
30
by
30
last
evening,
so
that
is
definitely
in
your
inboxes
for
review.
D
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
present
ajr3
to
you
all
today
and
to
have
the
conversation,
and
I
urge
your
support.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman
gonzalez
and
miss
cabrera
for
the
presentation.
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
ajri3
and
again.
The
committee
will
not
be
taking
any
action
today,
but
it
may
bring
it
back
for
a
future
work
session.
So
thank
you
again.
Next,
we
will
go
to
assembly
bill
6..
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
the
hearing
on
ab6.
A
This
measure
revises
provisions
governing
an
application
for
a
temporary
change
relating
to
appropriated
water.
I
believe
we
have
two
presenters
on
zoom
from
the
division
of
water
resources.
We
have
adam
sullivan,
acting's,
acting
state
engineer
and
michelin,
fairbank,
deputy
administrator,
so
mr
sullivan
or
I
I
think
that's
we
can
go
first.
I
I
I
I
E
I
A
so
the
procedure
is
that
if,
when
a
water
is
application
is
filed,
it
is
published
for
a
period
of
four
weeks
and
any
member.
Anyone
feeling
feeling
that
there's
anyone
who
has
a
protest
with
regard
to
that
water
right
application
may
file
it
with
our
office
and
if
the
circumstances
and
the
data
and
then
support
it,
and
if
there's
any
concerns
that
the
water
right
application
would
conflict
with
the
public
interest.
Then
it's
at
the
discretion
of
the
state
engineer
whether
or
not
to
hold
a
hearing.
E
Q
Good
afternoon,
michelin
fairbank
for
the
record,
so
those
factors
that
are
utilized
to
determine
when
a
hearing
is
held
are
very
variable.
It
depends
like
in
large
part
on
the
nature
of
the
protests,
whether
or
not
we
believe
that
there's
sufficient
information
and
evidence
in
in
the
record,
in
before
the
agency,
to
make
a
determination
and
whether
or
not
we
believe
that
there
needs
to
be
more
robust
development
of
the
information
and
record
before
the
state
engineer
for
purposes
of
rendering
a
decision.
Q
But
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
we
have
a
real
set,
you
know
form
criteria
that
we
go
through
a
checklist
to
make
a
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
to
conduct
a
hearing.
We
do
not
have
that.
It
really
is
a
case
case-by-case
basis
based
upon
the
particular
application
evidence
and
factors
associated
with
associated
with
that.
E
A
G
A
Well,
thank
you.
So
much
senator
go
get
you
any
other
questions.
Seeing
none
is
there
let's
go
ahead
and
move
to
testimony.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
wishing
to
provide
support
testimony
at
this
time,
seeing
none
bps?
Is
there
one
anyone
on
the
phone
lines
wishing
to
provide
support
testimony.
A
Time,
thank
you.
So
much
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
wishing
to
provide
opposition
testimony
at
this
time,
seeing
none
bps.
Is
there
anyone
online
wishing
to
provide
opposition
testimony.
A
I
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
so
at
this
time
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
ab6
and
as
a
reminder,
the
committee
will
not
be
taking
any
action
on
ab6
today,
but
it
may
bring
it
back
for
a
future
work
session.
Let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
assembly
bill
52.
I
will
open
the
hearing
on
ab52,
which
makes
various
changes
related
to
the
land
use
planning
advisory
council.
A
We
have
charlie
donahue,
administrator
of
the
division
of
state
lands
and
state
land
registrar
who
is
on
zoom
and
and
also
just
to
note,
an
amendment
was
submitted
by
his
department
that
is
uploaded
to
nellis
and
please
proceed.
Mr
donahue.
R
Good
afternoon,
chairman
daniate
and
committee
members,
I
am
charlie
donahue
and
I
serve
as
the
administrator.
R
The
of
the
division
of
state
lands
with
me
here
today
is
scott
carey,
he's
one
of
our
state
land
use
planners.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
to
present
ab52.
This
is
an
agency
requested,
build
that
proposes
a
few
changes
to
statute
regarding
the
state
land
use
planning
advisory
council
commonly
known
as
slupac.
R
R
Thank
you
section.
One
paragraph
one
proposes
to
broaden
the
existing
membership
of
the
council
from
its
current
configuration
of
17
voting
members,
one
from
each
county
and
one
non-voting
member
from
the
nevada
association
of
counties
naco.
It
is
also
to
also
include
an
additional
voting
member
representing
the
nevada,
indian
commission
and
adding
a
non-voting
member
appointed
by
the
nevada
league
of
cities.
R
R
As
background
in
2013,
this
body
passed
legislation
adding
napo
to
slupac
as
a
non-voting
member.
The
council
believes
it
would
be
beneficial
to
also
add
representations
from
cities
and
tribal
nations.
We
reached
out
to
the
nevada,
indian
commission
league
of
cities
to
discuss
the
addition
and
both
welcomed
being
added
to
slupac.
R
During
the
bill's
hearing
in
the
assemblies
committee
on
government
affairs,
the
agency
discussed
the
possible
conceptual
amendment,
adding
the
excuse
me
adding
the
indian
commission
representative
as
a
voting
member.
This
concept,
where
all
a
team
members
would
be
appointed
by
the
governor,
was
presented
to
pac
members
at
their
march
meeting
and
passed
unanimously
of
those
members
present
lance
has
uploaded
a
proposed
amendment
to
reprint
number
one
of
av
52
to
nellis
to
address
the
minor
drafting
issue.
R
I'd
be
happy
to
discuss
this
matter
further
further
with
you
today
section
one
paragraph
five
provides
how
to
handle
an
appointment
to
slu
pack.
If
an
elected
member's
chairman
office
expires
prior
to
his
or
her
service
on
the
council,
this
is
being
proposed
to
enable
local
governments
the
ability
to
have
the
represent
the
representative
on
the
council
that
they
feel
would
represent
their
communities
best
section.
One
paragraph
seven
is
the
necessary
language
specifying
that
the
added
members
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
their
appointing
authority.
R
R
Lastly,
section
3
paragraph
3
reduces
the
number
of
days
required
to
advertise
for
a
hearing
associated
with
the
potential
designation
of
an
acec
from
20
to
10
days
to
align
this
period
with
similar
notices
for
substantive
planning
changes
such
as
zoning
map
changes,
master
plan,
amendments
and
special
use
permits.
Mr
chairman,
with
those
brief
remarks,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
of
your
or
your
committee
members
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
donahue
dude.
We
have
any
questions
from
the
committee
members
at
this
time
and
just
to
confirm.
The
proposed
amendment
is
uploaded
on
nellis
and
it's
the
one
that
has
18
members,
not
17,
just
to
confirm
no
questions
good,
all
right.
Let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
to
testimony.
So
as
a
reminder,
we
will
be
limiting
all
testifiers
to
two
minutes.
Each
and
testifiers
are
encouraged
to
submit
more
comprehensive
testimony.
In
writing.
Let's
begin
with
support
testimony.
So
if
anyone
in
the
room
would
like
to
proceed.
Q
Good
afternoon,
chairman
donate
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
I'm
marla
mcdade
williams,
with
strategies
360
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
the
reno
sparks
indian
colony,
the
reno
sparks
indian
colony,
supports
ab52,
and
we
want
to
extend
our
appreciation
to
the
members
of
the
land
use
planning
advisory
council,
mr
donahue,
and
in
particular
to
mr
carey
for
recognizing
an
opportunity
to
increase
communication
between
county
and
tribal
issues.
We
are
in
support
of
the
amendment
as
it
has
been
proposed
as
well,
so
thank
you
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
I
F
A
C
O
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
committee
again,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
I
will
note
for
the
record
that
I'm
also
the
current
chairman
of
the
state
land
use
planning
advisory
council
today,
I'm
not
speaking
on
behalf
of
slupac,
but
I
will
note
that
slupec
as
a
body
has
supported
ab52,
including
the
way
it
reads
with
the
amendment.
O
C
S
Section.
One
of
this
bill
would
add
a
voting
member
of
the
state
land
use
planning
advisory
council
that
is
appointed
by
the
nevada,
indian
commission.
The
commission
is
in
full
support
of
this
additional
member
on
the
council
and
believes
that
this
voting
member
will
help
provide
a
vital
native
american
perspective
on
the
statewide
land
use
planning
initiative.
S
The
nevada
indian
commission
supports
the
conceptual
amendment
proposed
by
the
division
of
the
state
lands
today
to
make
the
commissioner's
representative
on
the
council
be
appointed
by
the
governor.
Our
agency
appreciates
the
amendment
adopted
by
the
assembly
to
ap
52
to
make
the
commission's
representative
be
a
voting
member.
However,
the
commission's
intent
would
be
that
it
would
make
a
nomination
of
its
representative
to
the
governor,
and
then
the
governor
would
make
that
appointment.
Just
like
the
other
voting
members
of
the
council,
there
are
27
federally
recognized
tribal
nations
within
nevada
in
each
indian
reservation.
S
C
P
P
Naco
would
like
to
offer
its
support
for
ab52,
including
the
amendment
as
a
non-voting
member
naco
strongly
supports
the
addition
of
a
voting
member
nominated
by
the
nevada,
indian
commission
and
appreciates
administrator
donahue
and
mr
kerry
for
reaching
out
to
naco.
Regarding
the
proposed
addition
of
that
member,
the
existing
members
and
the
non-voting
members,
I
we
think
will
benefit
from
the
added
perspective
and
experience
of
that
addition.
P
Ab52
properly
articulates
sloopback's
ability
to
participate
and
advise
federal
land
management
agencies
on
the
impacts
that
proposed
federal
actions
may
have
a
challenge
for
many
individual
counties
is
their
ability
to
participate
and
coordinate
with
federal
agencies,
whether
because
of
the
county's
capacity
to
do
so
or
the
federal
agencies
unwillingness
to
consider
county
needs.
Ab52
will
simply
give
counties
affected
by
federal
management
decisions
of
voice,
whether
whether
through
formal
comment,
policy
statement
or
resolution.
C
A
A
A
Time,
thank
you
so
much.
Mr
daniel,
do
you
have
any
closing
remarks.
R
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
have
a
pleasant
evening.
Thank.
A
You,
sir,
all
right
I'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
ab52
and
again
the
committee
will
not
be
taking
any
action
on
ab52
today,
but
I
may
bring
it
back
for
a
future
work
session.
And
last
but
not
least,
we
have
our
last
build
today
assembly
bill
72.
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
the
hearing
on
ab-72
and
this
measure
revises
provisions
relating
to
the
nevada
state
board
on
geographic
names,
and
I
believe
we
have
miss
cynthia
la
framboise,
chair
of
the
board,
to
present
ab72.
So
please
proceed.
T
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
cynthia
laframboise
and
I
am
the
state
archives
manager
at
the
state,
library,
archives
and
public
records.
I
am
representing
the
state
board
on
geographic
names
as
its
chair.
The
statement
of
intent
for
ab-72
is
to
add
the
nevada,
indian
commission,
to
its
current
11-member
board.
T
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
introduce
ab-72
to
this
committee.
The
state
board
on
geographic
names
exists
to
serve
as
the
official
agents
agency
agent
to
coordinate
the
important
place.
Naming
activity
between
local
state
and
federal
agencies
establish
a
procedure
for
the
retention
and
formal
recognition
of
existing
names,
standardize
the
procedure
for
naming
names
or
renaming
geographic
features
within
state
borders,
avoid
or
eliminate,
whenever
possible,
the
duplication
of
names
and
to
correct
spelling
errors
and
to
retain
and
enhance
the
significance,
heritage
and
distinct
flavor
of
names
associated
with
the
history
and
development
of
the
state.
T
T
The
summary
of
the
major
provisions
are
to
honor
the
government-to-government
relationships
that
exist
between
tribes
and
nevada.
State
government
provide
supplemental
input
from
indigenous
citizens
to
ensure
proposed
names,
aligned
with
names
used
by
tribes,
be
cognizant
and
respectful
of
the
historical,
cultural
and
spiritual
relationships
that
tribes
have
with
the
landscape,
provide
as
many
opportunities
as
possible
for
tribes
to
participate
in
the
board
of
geographic's
names.
Efforts
to
standardize
geographic
names
for
federal
use.
T
A
I
don't
think
I
see
any
so
I
think
we're
good
miss,
muffin,
bras,
okay,
all
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
see
if
there
is
any
testimony
for
this
bill.
So
as
a
reminder,
we
will
be
limiting
all
testifiers
to
two
minutes.
Each
and
testifiers
are
encouraged
to
summarize
their
positions
and
submit
more
comprehensive
testimony
in
writing.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
room
wishing
to
provide
support
testimony
for
ab-72.
Q
I
want
to
extend
my
appreciation
to
ms
laframboise,
with
the
division
of
state
library,
archives
and
public
records
for
requesting
this
bill
and
recognizing
the
importance
of
tribal
inclusion
on
the
state
board
on
geographic
names.
As
you
know,
prior
to
settlement,
nevada
was
the
territory
of
the
shoshone
washoe.
Q
F
The
pyramid,
lake
paiute
tribe
pyramid
lake
paiute
would
also
like
to
thank
the
state
board
of
geographic
names
for
recognizing
the
the
need
to
have
more
inclusion
and
more
diverse
voices
on
the
board
and
the
inclusion
that
this
bill
brings
forward.
Thank
you
again
for
the
recognition
and
we're
in
support
of
this
bill
have
a
good
day.
A
C
S
The
nevada
indian
commission
is
tasked
with
improving
the
quality
of
life
of
all
indigenous
people
in
our
state.
In
doing
so,
we
focus
on
developing
and
improving
cooperation
and
communication
between
our
tribal
nations,
state
local
governments
and
related
agencies,
with
the
purpose
of
facilitating
greater
access
to
education,
employment,
health
well-being
and
growing
the
socio-economic
status
of
nevada's
american,
indian
citizens
and
enhancing
tribal
sovereignty,
economic
opportunities
and
community
development.
S
S
Ab-72
recognizes
our
native
americans
as
the
first
caretakers
of
this
land.
It
considers
that
paths
and
trails
established
by
the
numa
nui
and
washi,
the
paiute,
the
shoshone
and
the
washoes,
evolved
to
become
past
wagon
roads
paved
roads
and
even
highways,
several
in
nevada,
which
are
still
used
today,
along
with
their
original
courses.
S
C
C
C
A
G
Yes,
thank
you.
I've
got
one
question
question.
It's
not
real
clear.
It
says
the
executive
executive
secretary
is
a
non-money
voting
member
of
the
board
and
the
voting
members
shall
select,
but
are
they
selecting
from
their
the
other
12
members
or
is
it?
Are
they
hiring
it?
Selecting
an
outside
person,
not
really
clear
on
that?
It
almost
sounds
like
maybe
one
of
the
12
could
be
voted
in
as
and
then
that
would
make
an
11
member
board
and
that
actually
voted.
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
reading
that.
A
Thank
you
so
much
senator
gregory
chip
miss
lafon
brothers.
Would
you
be
able
to
answer
that.
T
Yes,
this
is
cynthia
la
francois
for
the
record.
It
would
only
be
within
the
members
of
the
board
on
geographic
naves,
so
it
would
only
be
between.
Currently
there
are
11
members.
If
indian
commission
is
added,
it
would
be
from
the
12.
So
then
there
would
be
11
voting
members
for
the
board.
G
A
T
No,
but
I
would
like
to
thank
you
and
the
the
chair
and
all
of
the
members
for
paying
for
attention
to
this
matter.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
All
right,
we
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
ab72
and
the
committee
will
not
be
taking
any
action
today,
but
it
may
bring
it
back
for
a
future
work
session.
So
thank
you
again
last
item
on
today's
agenda.
A
public
comment.
I
will
not
call
for
public
comment.
Please
remember
to
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes.
Each
bps
is
there
anyone
wishing
to
provide
public
comment
at
this
time.