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A
Today
we
will
be
holding
a
work
session
on
one
bill.
I
would
like
to
remind
everyone
that
we
will
be
not
be
taking
testimony
at
the
work
session.
However,
I
may
call
on
someone
as
necessary
to
answer
questions
from
the
committee
members,
just
as
fair
notice.
Today
we
scheduled
to
work
session
two
bills,
sb
34
and
sb
98.
We
had
a
few
questions
regarding
sb
34
that
came
up
within
the
last
few
hours,
so
we'll
be
taking
that
off
the
agenda
for
now
until
we
get
further
clarification
just
for
everyone's
transparency
sake.
A
But
with
that
let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
forward,
we
will
go
ahead
and
begin
with
sb
98.
Our
policy
analyst
jennifer
rudy
will
be
walking
us
through
the
work
session.
Miss
rudy
please
proceed
when
you
are
ready.
D
Thank
you,
chair
donate.
This
is
jennifer
rudy
committee
policy,
analyst
as
lcb
staff.
I
am
neither
in
support
or
in
opposition
to
the
any
legislation
before
the
committee
senate
bill
98
expands
the
membership
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
carson
water
sub
conservancy
district
from
11
to
13
members
by
adding
two
members
who
are
story,
county
residents
appointed
by
the
board
of
county
commissioners
of
story
county.
The
measure
expands
the
carson
water
sub
conservancy
district
to
include
the
portions
of
story
county
within
the
carson
river
hydrologic
basin.
D
The
measure
excludes
the
portion
of
story
county
within
the
district
from
the
taxable
property
on
which
the
board
of
directors
are
authorized
to
levy
a
certain
tax.
Instead,
the
board
of
county
commissioners
of
story
county
must
pay
to
the
district
from
the
county's
general
fund
an
amount
equal
to
what
would
have
been
generated
by
such
attacks
on
the
portion
of
story
county
that
is
within
the
carson
river
hydrologic
basin,
and
there
are
no
amendments
proposed
for
senate
bill
98.
A
Thank
you,
ms
rudy.
At
this
time,
do
any
of
the
committee
members
have
any
outstanding
questions
regarding
this
bill.
A
A
A
Senator
greg,
thank
you
second
seconded
by
senator
goykichia.
Is
there
any
discussion
or
any
questions
regarding
the
motion?
F
G
A
And
I
am
a
yes
so
the
motion
carries
and
if
senator
senator
saddle
meyer
will
please
go
ahead
and
handle
the
floor
statement
for
his
bill.
That
would
be
much
appreciated
and
thank
you
to
my
committee
members
for
carrying
this
out.
So
that
concludes
our
work
session.
Let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
the
bills
that
we
have
today
so
going
in
order.
Let's
proceed
with
senate
bill
78,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
the
hearing
on
sb
78.
A
C
You
chair,
donati,
senator
greg
representing
senate
district
19.,
sb
78
started
out
as
a
fairly
simple
bill,
that's
easy
to
say,
and
it's
bad
luck.
I
know
it
was
guides
and
outfitters
clearly
looking
for
some
representation
on
the
wildlife
commission
as
pertaining
to
the
decisions
that
were
made
that
were
really
impacting
their
industry
and
the
other
piece
of
it.
C
Clearly
endowed
in
the
wildlife
commission
was
making
a
number
of
him
of
decisions
that
impact
a
local
government
on
a
broad
spec
aspect,
especially
as
it
pertains
to
you
know,
mitigation
of
some,
even
if
it
was
a
mine
plan
or
whatever
a
lot
of
those
projects
were
being
held
up
and
truly
impacting
a
lot
of
the
rural
rural
governments.
So
anyway,
as
I
worked
on
the
bill,
it
became
apparent.
C
There
were
a
lot
of
other
issues
and
that's
what
really
triggered
the
amendment,
and
I
hope
we
can
work
everyone's
got
a
copy
of
the
amendments
to
sb
78
and
we
need
to
work
on
that
off
of
that
for
the
interest
of
time
in
the
interest
of
time,
because
the
bill
has
changed
significantly
from
really
just
expanding
the
board
of
wildlife.
Commissioners
to
the
rationale
as
to
why
we
really
need
to
get
there.
C
You
know
in
the
old
days
and
that
a
couple
decades
ago,
the
county
advisory
boards
were
truly
engaged
with
endow
in
the
administration
and
and
the
selection
of
the
wildlife
commission.
I
remember
back
when
those
county
boards
actually
stood
toe-to-toe
with
endow
and
set
bag
limits
and
seasons,
and
they
were
very
engaged.
C
Unfortunately,
over
the
years
the
process
has
been
somewhat
become
somewhat.
Political
and
people
that
are
being
appointed
to
the
wildlife
commission
tend
to
tend
to
have
no
people
in
the
right
places
and
that's
why
they're
getting
getting
getting
the
appointment
so
with
that
comes
the
real
change.
The
in
sub
two
section,
two
sub
two,
and
that
is
that
now
and
it
is
required
in
statute
that
the
kind
of
advisory
boards
do
in
fact
nominate.
But
there's
nothing
in
statute
that
says
just
because
you
weren't
nominated
by
a
county
advisory
board.
C
It
doesn't
mean
you
can't
be
appointed
with
this
change
in
statute.
It
says
that,
in
order
to
be
you
would
have
to
be
appointed
not
appointed
but
nominated
by
the
by
your
a
local
cab
or
and
endorsed,
or
in
fact
not
endorsed,
and
that
would
that
list
would
go
to
the
governor
and
then
the
governor
would
have
to
select
his
appointee
to
the
wildlife
commission
from
that
list.
That
was
created
by
the
by
the
cabs,
the
other
piece
of
it
that
I
think,
is
truly
far-reaching
in
this.
C
Presently
there
are
three
members:
if
you're
in
a
county
of
over
seven
hundred
thousand
two
members,
if
you're
in
a
county
over
a
hundred
thousand
and
then
all
the
other
counties
only
had
one
member,
so
it
made
it
really
difficult
in
places
like
elko
county.
Where
truly
you
had
the
say,
the
ranching
or
the
farming
representative.
Coming
from
that
that
jurisdiction
that
no
one
else
could
sit
on
on
the
wildlife
commission
from
that
particular
county.
C
So
we're
looking
at
not
only
expanding
the
board
but
also
allowing
those
rural
counties
to
have
at
least
two
representatives
on
the
wildlife
commission
and
those
are
the
really
the
the
biggest
changes
in
in
this
other
than,
like
you
say,
the
actual
expansion
of
the
board,
and
you
know,
as
we
look
at
the
budget
and
the
wildlife
and
the
duties
of
the
wildlife
commission,
I
think
it's
fair
to
say,
there's
a
lot
of
money
that
goes
through
endows
budget
and
most
of
us
believe
that
that
oversight
is
provided
by
the
by
like
by
the
wildlife
commission-
and
I
know
those
budgets
in
fact
come
before
the
legislature,
but
because
of
the
small
amount
of
general
fund
that
is
in
endows
budget.
C
We
really
don't
give
it
that
kind
of
scrutiny
either,
and
so
with
that,
I
I
think
it
is
truly
fair
to
say
that
we
need
to
expand.
The
commission
allow
those
interested
interested
parties
that
are
impacted
by
the
duties
of
and
to
really
have
the
oversight
over
how
the
monies
and
and
the
business
of
endow
is
handled
through
the
wildlife
commercial
commission.
C
So
I
won't
belabor
this
anymore.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
testimony
on
this
particular
bill,
but
I
will
turn
it
over
to
the
guides
and
outfitters
to
plead
their
case
as
well
as
I
believe
mr
chiquits
is
here
to
plead
the
case,
local
government,
but
with
that
I
will
stand
for
any
questions.
A
Okay
at
this
time,
let's
go
ahead
and
if
anyone
has
any
immediate
questions
for
senator
gorkachew,
they
can
ask
them,
and
then
I
can
entertain
the
other
presenters
that
you
have
as
well.
Does
anyone
have
any
immediate
questions
for
senator
gorkachia
vicer
scheibel
go
for
it.
D
Thank
you,
so
I
I'm
a
little
bit
curious
about
the
thinking
behind
adding
a
member
of
the
board,
who
is
a
master
guide,
as
opposed
to
just
suggesting
that
one
of
the
five
members
in
subsection
g
be
a
master
guide.
C
Well
again,
now
you're
saying
in
g
just
that
it
would,
let's
see
now
technically
under
the
amended
bill,
it
would
be
d,
is
the
master
guide
and
then
f
is
is
a
general?
No
I'm
sorry,
yes,
d
is,
is
the
master
guide
and
you're
saying
just
leave
that
wide
open.
D
C
Technically
there
were
well
we
could.
We
could
put
that
language
in
there.
If
that
was
an
amendment
that
the
vice
chair
would
like
to
see.
You
know,
I
think
presently
there
is,
is
probably
a
sub
guide
on
the
commission,
but
it's
not
truly
a
master
guide
and
yeah
there's
nothing
that
that
says
that
a
a
master
guide
couldn't
qualify
for
one
of
those
five
slots
because
they
clearly
hold
a
a
hunting
license
in
three
out
of
the
last
four
years.
C
But
I
think
the
reason
was
the
the
guides
and
outfitters
and
I'll.
Let
them
plead
their
case
as
well,
have
struggled
for
representation
for
a
number
of
years
just
for
their
industry,
and
it's
you
know,
because
typically
the
guides
and
outfitters
are
are
more
of
an
industry
than
say
just
just
your
average
weekend
hunter.
D
C
Well,
presently,
the
through
the
chair
to
senator
scheible
presently,
actually
the
the
majority
of
the
board
is
hunters.
In
fact,
they're
there
to
harvest
the
wildlife.
C
Well,
I
wouldn't
think
that
neither
does
ranching
again
through
the
chair
to
senator
schneible,
but
again
ranching
farming
or
expertise
in
conservation.
I
I
think
it's.
C
If
you
feel
that
there
is
actually
you
know
financial
gain
there,
I
think
you
we
seem
to
lose
the
concept
of
just
because
they
are
a
guide
and
outfitter.
The
bottom
line
is
a
lot
of
that.
Some
of
those
are
fishing
trips.
Photography
and
those
people
are
in
fact
out
there
in
in
those
rural
areas,
probably
and
probably
have
a
closer
connection
to
I.e
the
habitat
and
the
species
out
there
than
the
average
person.
C
So
I
think
they
would
be
well
suited
to
actually
sit
on
this
commission
and
say
hey.
You
know
I
I'm
in
the
livestock
industry,
but
I
can
tell
you
our
deer
herds
are
declining
and
declining
rapidly.
You
know
it's,
I
don't
benefit
from
that,
but
I
do
have
I
I'm
there
and
I
can
you
know,
know
the
situation
and
unfortunately
been
there
for
a
long
time.
C
C
You
wouldn't
find
in
the
other
five
people,
because
that
is
their
livelihood,
whether
it's
beneficial
to
them
or
not.
I'll
leave
that
up
to
the
committee.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
senator
boykachia,
and
vice
versa,
for
those
questions
do
I
have
senator
hanson
looks
like
he
has
a
question:
go
for
it.
G
Thanks
jared
well,
I
I
want
to
make
one
thing
where
that
is
a
lot
of
the
guides
and
outfitters.
Actually,
while
it's
true,
they
do
hunting
and
things
like
that.
One
of
the
growing
things
in
nevada
actually
are
taking
pictures
of
everything
from
wild
horses
to
to
you
know,
fancy
fishing
trips
and
going
to
see
animals
in
the
summer
when
you
are
not
hunting
them.
So
I
think
we
got
to
understand
that
when,
even
though
they're
hunters
and
guides
that
the
guiding
isn't
exclusively
to
hunting.
G
The
second
point
I
wanted
to
address
is
the
idea
of
financial
gain.
Look.
The
truth
is
the
department
of
wildlife
is
funded
almost
exclusively
from
revenue
generated
by
the
sale
of
hunting
licenses
tags
fishing
licenses
and,
of
course,
a
huge
chunk
comes
from
the
pittman-robertson
funds,
which
primarily
come
from
people
who
are
also
interested
in
outdoor
pursuits.
So
you
know,
if
we
look
at
the
financial
side
of
it,
we
got
to
be
a
little
bit
careful
because
this
entire
agency
is
actually
funded
one
way
or
another
through
primarily
those
those
outdoor
activities.
G
So,
as
far
as
the
the
guides,
I
I
just
real
quick
chair.
G
The
citizens
advisory
board
from
all
17
counties
have
very
limited,
almost
no
input.
So
I've
seen
a
a
dramatic
change
from
very,
very
heavily
heavy
levels
of
civilian
involvement
into
where
today,
it's
almost
totally
dominated
by
professional
biologists
at
endow,
which
isn't
totally
bad.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
I
just
want
to
throw
that
in
there
kind
of
just
a
little
historical
perspective,
there's
a
lot
more
to
it,
but
I
don't
want
to
tie
up
the
whole
chair
the
whole
time
babe.
I
didn't
really
have
a
question
so
much.
G
A
Thank
you
senator
hanson.
For
that
comment.
The
one
question
that
I
had
that
came
up
to
me
from
some
of
the
letters
that
were
sent
both
in
opposition
and
in
support.
Senator
kokuchi.
Can
you
respond
to
the
concern
of
there
has
been
an
interest
in
instituting
term
limits
for
members
who
serve
on
this
board?
Is
that
something
has
that
ever
been
a
conversation
that
you
have
heard
or
anything
that
you
would
respond
to
that.
C
No,
I
it's
not.
I
wasn't
brought
up
to
me.
I
might
have
plugged
it
in
the
bill.
Chair
donati,
you
know
I
I
think
it
probably
is
reasonable.
C
Some
of
the
people
have
again
been
on
on
the
commission
for
a
long
time,
but
I
I
really
did
feel
that
if
we
were
able
to
accomplish
through
the
amendment-
and
that
is
allowing
that
the
wildlife,
the
cabs
the
local
county
advisory
boards,
can
go
back
to
their
original
jurisdiction
and
have
the
ability
which
was
intended,
I
believe
in
statute
that
they
would
nominate
the
existing
statute
says
they
will
nominate.
C
Unfortunately,
it
moved
away
from
the
governor
didn't
have
to
appoint
from
that
list,
and
I
know
in
many
cases
cavs
had
had
had
nominated
some
very
strong
people
that
they
wanted
to
see
put
on
the
wildlife
commission
and,
ultimately,
you
know
they
said
well,
we
just
didn't
have
enough
political
connections
to
get
on,
and
so
I
think
it
it
if
we're
really
going
back
to
managing
the
species
and
the
habitat
and
wildlife.
C
Let's
go
back
to
these
local
county
boards
that
clearly
have
the
the
ability,
the
sportsman,
the
expertise,
they're
all
walks
of
life
and
and
walk
in
there,
and
and
let
them
be
the
one
that
actually
selects
the
wildlife
commission
that
I
think
is
going
to
have
to
have
a
bigger
role
in
in
in
the
oversight
of
endow
and
as
senator
hansen
pointed
out.
There's
a
lot
of
sportsman
only
go
through
there.
C
But
a
lot
of
this
is
on
a
three
to
one
match
from
pittman
act:
money
and
when
you
get
that
kind
of
dollars
going
through,
it
needs
some
more
oversight
from
what
we're
giving
it,
and
I,
I
believe
that
the
users
out
there,
the
habit,
the
people
that
are
in
control
of
the
habitat
and
the
species
need
to
be
engaged.
So
thank
you,
chair
donati,.
A
Thank
you
senator
rocaccio,
for
clarifying
that.
Are
there
any
other
questions
before
I?
Let
senator
garcia
entertain
the
other
presenters?
A
Okay,
senator
kitchen,
do
you
have,
I
believe
you
have
a
few
other
presenters.
It
was
rachel
rossetti
and
henry
krenka
from
the
nevada,
outfitter
guide
association,
and
then
we
have
jake
tibbetts
from
the
who's,
the
natural
resources
manager
from
eureka
county.
So
if
I
can
go
ahead
and
yield
the
floor,
who
would
you
like
to
go
ahead
and
present?
First,
sir,.
C
That
your
preference,
sir,
I
believe
mr
tibbetts
is
actually
also
presenting
for
naco's
legislative
commission
as
well.
I
think
he's
more
to
the
the
side
of
the
local
governing
body
political
appointee.
A
I
So
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee
thankful
for
this
opportunity.
Today,
I'm
jake
tibbetts,
that's
j-a-k-e-t-I-b-b
itts
and
I'm
the
natural
resources
manager
for
eureka
county
excuse
me
and
eureka
county
has
worked
with
senator
gokuchiya
on
the
amendment
to
sb-78
to
increase
the
role
of
county
advisory
boards
to
manage
wildlife.
You've
heard
them
called
cabs
and
this
role
in
seating
of
commissioners
on
the
wildlife
commission.
I
Looking
at
the
amended
amendment
amended
section
2
would
require
the
governor
to
request
of
the
cab's
nominations
or
endorsement
of
nominations
of
individuals
from
their
respective
county
to
various
vacancies
on
the
wildlife
commission,
amended
section
3
would
give
the
cabs
30
days
to
respond
to
the
governor's
request
and
if
a
cab
does
not
respond
within
this
30
days,
the
governor
can
make
the
appointment
of
any
nominee
from
within
that
county.
That
was
provided
to
the
cab
for
endorsement.
I
So,
mr
sheriff
you
wouldn't,
if
you'd
indulge
me,
I'd
like
to
speak
a
little
regarding
the
intent
of
this
amendment,
so
each
cab
is
appointed
by
the
respective
county
commissioners
and
according
to
nrs
501
265,
it
must
include
quote
one
qualified
person
who
represents
the
interests
of
the
general
public
of
the
county.
End
quote
so.
Each
cab
is
also
accountable
to
their
local
constitution
constituencies
due
to
being
appointed
by
the
locally
elected
county
commission.
I
Giving
the
cavs
a
role
in
the
governor
appointments
to
the
commissioners
will
ensure
a
grassroots
voice
and
also
ensure
participation
of
the
general
public
voice
in
multiple
ways.
This
is
included
through
the
general
public
seat
on
each
cab
and
also
through
the
general
public
leverage
of
the
ballot
box
of
each
and
every
county.
Commissioner,
in
nevada
that
appoints
these
caps
further
endow
exists
under
the
executive
branch
directly
under
the
the
governor
as
currently
structured.
The
wildlife
commission
is
also
appointed
by
the
governor
as
oversight
of
endow.
I
I
So,
as
senator
hanson
mentioned,
if
you
were
to
look
back
at
the
history
of
the
wildlife
commission,
you'd
see
that
the
original
commission,
as
he
stated,
was
called
the
fish
and
game.
Commissioners
was
made
up
of
17
members,
one
from
each
county
and
they
were
seeded
through
local
elections
over
time.
The
makeup
of
the
wildlife
commission
is
morphed
into
what
it
is
today
and
we
believe
that
does
not
always
work
in
coordination
with
the
cavs
as
as
intended
originally
or
even
today.
I
So
nrs
181
further
requires
that
quote
in
establishing
any
regulations
related
to
seasons,
harvest
numbers
and
related
matters
that,
when
quote,
the
commission,
rejects
the
recommendations
of
a
county
advisory
board
applicable
within
the
respective
county.
The
commission
shall
provide
to
the
county
advisory
board
to
manage
wildlife
at
the
meeting,
an
explanation
of
the
commission's
decision
to
reject
the
recommendations
and
as
soon
as
practicable
after
the
meeting
a
written
explanation
of
the
commission's
decision
to
reject
the
recommendations.
I
I
278
has
many
other
locations
speaking
towards
and
even
mandating.
Inclusion
of
conservation
elements
and
policies
related
to
natural
resources.
Local
land
use
plans
further.
The
local
government
cooperation
act
in
nrs
277.182
through
277.188
states.
That
quote,
the
purpose
of
the
state
and
local
government
cooperation
act
is
in
to
encourage
communication
cooperation
and
coordinated
working
relationships
between
state
agencies
and
local
governments.
I
End
quote:
it
continues
quote
if
a
state
agency
intends
to
adopt
a
plan
or
an
amendment
there
too,
the
state
agency
should,
to
the
extent
to
the
extent
practicable
one
inform
local
governments
that
may
be
affected
by
the
state
agency's
intent
to
adopt
a
plan
or
amendment
there
to
to
solicit
and
consider
comments
from
local
governments
that
may
be
affected
by
the
plan
or
amendment
thereto
and
three.
If
the
local
government
informs
the
state
agency
that
the
proposed
plan,
or
amendment
thereto
will
be
inconsistent
or
incompatible
with
the
plan
of
the
local
government.
I
Consider
whether
the
state
agency
can
make
the
plan
or
amendment
compatible
with
the
plan
of
the
local
government,
we
don't
see
this
effort
under
nrs
277,
currently
taking
place
within
down,
or
the
wildlife
commission,
so
cabs
provide
a
vital
link
between
the
wildlife
commission
and
the
county
commissions
and
the
local
stakeholders
to
ensure
that
local
plans
and
policies
related
to
natural
resources
and
wildlife
are
voiced,
they're
taken
into
account.
As
anticipated,
this
amendment
in
sb
78
would
assist
in
helping
the
wildlife
commission
be
more
responsive
to
local
needs.
A
J
Go
ahead,
can
you
hear
me
yep?
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
senator
goguccia
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
I'm
rachel
bazzetti,
the
secretary
of
the
nevada,
outfitters
and
guides
association,
last
name,
bizetti
b-u-z-z-e-t-t-I,
my
husband
and
I
own,
and
operate
an
outfitting
business
as
well
in
northeastern
nevada.
J
I
would
like
to
start
by
saying
that
sb-78
is
a
really
good
bill.
It's
important
to
nevada,
guides
and
sportsmen
alike.
It
proposes
to
expand
the
oversight
and
transparency
that
are
much
needed
within
this
commission
and
for
the
department
of
wildlife
as
you've
just
heard
from
senator
gogochia
sb
78
proposes
to
expand
the
wildlife
commission
by
two
members,
one
being
the
licensed
master
guide
throughout
the
years.
The
commission
has
made
policies
and
regulations
which
have
adversely
affected
the
guide
industry
financially
in
2004.
J
Then,
in
2018
the
wildlife
commission
changed
their
draw
system
which
was
supposed
to
be
more
user
friendly
and
they
told
outfitters
that
they
would
no
longer
be
able
to
receive
the
saleable
list
with
all
the
successful
applicants.
This
marketing
list
allowed
guides
to
mail
brochures
out
to
the
successful
sportsmen.
J
This
decision
that
the
commission
made
cost
nevada
outfitters
no
less
than
500
000
in
lost
revenue.
Additionally,
during
the
2009
19
legislature,
the
association
proposed
that
the
wildlife
commission
created
an
advisory
board
to
deal
specifically
with
guide
industry
issues,
and
the
wildlife
commission
opposed
the
board
and
persuaded
legislators
to
not
adopt
the
bill,
creating
the
board.
J
J
J
They
are
a
very
knowledgeable
resource
when
it
comes
to
wildlife.
They
work
from
sun
up
to
sun,
down
scouting
preparing
camps,
settling
horses,
getting
equipment,
ready
and
hunting
so
that
the
sportsman
can
have
a
safe
and
exciting
outdoor
experience
with
the
guide
guides
not
only
take
the
public
hunting,
they
also
provide
trail
rides,
photography,
expeditions
fishing,
trips
and
overnight
camp
trips.
J
If
the
guide
industry
cannot
remain
fiscally
viable,
then
all
this
is
compromised
when
it
comes
to
taking
the
public
into
the
outdoors,
the
equipment
might
be
less
than
comparable
and
our
industry
will
see
less
licensed
than
insured
guides
and
more
activity
illegal
activity.
Possibly
if-
and
this
will
continue
if
the
commission
was
to
keep
making
adverse
decisions
for
our
industry,
expanding
the
commission
by
two
members
will
ensure
that
there
is
diversity,
transparency
and
sufficient
oversight
with
the
state
wildlife
commission.
J
The
two
other
key
foundational
components-
one
mr
tibbetts
just
spoke
of
in
this
bill-
address
how
many
members
from
a
region
can
serve
and
how
many
commissioners
are
appointed.
Both
of
these
are
proposed
to
ensure
grassroots
participation,
as
well
as
a
knowledge
base
that
will
serve
as
a
real
asset
to
the
commission
when
making
wildlife
management
decisions.
A
Thank
you,
ms
rachel
buzetti,
and
then
I
think
we
have
one
last
presenter
who
might
be
next
to
you
and
you're
henry
krenka.
If
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
proceed.
K
K
The
state
wildlife
commission
is
designed
to
manage
wildlife,
adding
members
through
whose
livelihood
and
primary
interest
his
wildlife
in
nevada
would
be
beneficial
to
the
commission.
At
this
time,
the
commission
consists
of
members
who
are
primary
interests
rates
and
farming
conservation,
general
public
and
sportsmen.
A
A
Okay,
I
don't
think
I
see
any
so.
Thank
you
again
for
your
presentation.
Let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
so
as
a
reminder,
we
will
be
limiting
all
testifiers
to
two
minutes
each
and
I
will
be
capping
if
it
does
go
beyond
30
minutes
for
each
side.
I
will
be
capping
it
so
just
for
fair
public
notice
and
transparency.
Please
keep
in
mind
the
two
minutes
each
mark.
I
will
cut
you
off
just
from
the
amount
of
people
that
we
have
and
it
just
to
be
respectful
of
everyone's
time.
A
Testifiers
are
encouraged
to
summarize
their
positions
and
to
submit
more
comprehensive
testimony
in
writing.
If
you're
not
able
to
get
it
within
that
time
frame
and
eps.
Is
there
anyone
on
the
line
wishing
to
provide
support
testimony
for
sb
78
at
this
time.
B
L
L
Naked
would
like
to
offer
support
for
sb
78
and
the
proposed
amendment
county
advisory
boards
to
manage
wildlife
or
cabs
hold
local
knowledge
and
expertise
that
can
assist
this
and
future
governors
in
making
appointments
to
the
state's
board
of
wildlife.
Commissioners.
The
recommendations
or
approvals
of
these
17
boards
will
help
the
state
craft
and
best
implement
cogent,
thoughtful
and
consistent
policies
across
the
board
that
are
more
easily
implemented
by
the
division
of
wildlife.
L
Furthermore,
section
2
subsection
2
of
the
proposed
amendment
outlines
and
proposed
outlines
of
process
that
will
ensure
local
knowledge
and
expertise
makes
its
way
onto
the
board
of
wildlife.
Commissioners,
specifically,
this
process
will
help
leverage
local
knowledge
and
experience
into
the
process
and
help
bolster
the
state's
wildlife
management
policies.
For
these
reasons,
we
urge
this
committee
support
of
sp
78
and
the
proposed
amendment.
Thank
you.
M
B
N
They
use
politics
and
intervene
in
my
livelihood,
not
about
managing
wildlife,
but
how
I'm
my
ability
to
feed
my
family
and
how
I
use
the
resource
in
the
field
and
some
of
their
decisions
are
politically
motivated,
which
hampers
my
ability
to
do
business
and
to
feed
my
family.
So
that's
why
I
support
this
bill
to
put
a
license
master
guide
on
on
the
commission.
N
It's
simple.
The
wildlife
commission
has
set
these
regulations
over
the
years
for
20
years
and
they're
pretty
tough.
You
know
and
now
we're
into
tough
economic
times.
N
You
know
for
small
business
in
the
state
and
just
for
one
example.
The
commission
has
a
regulation
coming
up
in
the
next
meeting
to
simplify
regulation,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
guiding
industry,
we're
going
to
add
regulation
and
half
of
my
ability
to
input
clients
into
the
into
the
guided
draw,
so
their
intentions
aren't
always
science
based
and
are
about
managing
wildlife.
N
I'm
also
a
member
and
representative
of
the
elko
county
wildlife
advisory
board,
and
I
have
been
for
10
years
and
over
this
time
period,
I've
seen
the
department
and
the
commission
disregard
recommendations
several
times
time
and
time
again
brought
forward
by
our
county,
and
you
know
our
county
is
the
largest
county
with
the
largest
mule
deer
herd
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
a
large
portion
of
the
wildlife
in
nevada.
So
I
I
truly
think
having
a
commissioner
on
this
board
would
really
really
be
helpful
in
that
stand.
N
In
closing,
I
would
also
like
to
say
there
will
be
some
organizations
and
individuals
whose
comments
I
have
taken
offense
to
on
their
prior
acknowledgement
of
this
bill
that
we'll
speak
against
this
bill,
but
one
should
really
remember.
They
are
well
invested
in
the
current
policy
and
the
current
system
and
in
my
mind,
it's
a
it's
a
flawed
system,
so
I
do
appreciate
the
committee's
time
and
and
I'd
be
open
for
any
questions
if
you
have
it.
Thank
you,
mr.
B
K
Well,
they
don't
anymore
and
they
haven't
for
quite
a
while
now
and
we
used
to
get
to
nominate
who
gets
to
be
on
the
state
wildlife
commission,
well
that
when
that
went
away
for
whatever
reason
and
then
as
of
the
recent
past
department
of
wildlife
and
the
state
wildlife
commission
has
made
decisions
that
have
severely
impacted
the
outfitting
and
guided
industry
in
a
negative
way
in
our
state.
A
couple
examples:
they
made
a
regulation
to
eliminate
the
chance
for
a
second
draw.
K
If
you
were
unsuccessful
in
a
guided
draw,
they
eliminated
the
access
to
the
sellable
list
for
outfitters
and
master
guides,
which,
in
with
the
way
my
business
model
works
that
has
severely
handicapped
me.
Financially,
they
continually
push
to
for
increased
tag
quotas
despite
feedback
from
the
area.
Biologists
outfitters
guides
cabs
sports
men
and
women
in
the
state.
K
And
with
that
being
said,
I
am
the
most
conservative
board
member
in
humboldt
county.
I
always
push
for
less
tags
because
I'd
rather
have
a
quality
hunt
and
then
a
quantity
hunt
the
and
for
the
madam,
that
I'd
missed
her
name
at
the
beginning,
wanted
to
know
about
the
conflict
of
interest
anytime,
there's
something
to
do
with
outfitters
and
guides
comes
through
our
board.
K
K
I
have
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
and
almost
two
decades
invested
in
this,
and
I
really
don't
want
to
lose
it
see
it
going
down
the
hill
down
the
drain
and,
as
my
esteemed
colleague,
colleague
and
good
friend,
mitch
rossetti
said,
I
don't
want
to
be
the
generation
that
loses
a
meal
there
in
this
state
and
that's
where
we're
heading,
and
I
have
a
10
year
old
daughter,
and
so
what
is
she
supposed
to
do
in
her?
You
know
for
her
generation
and
her
kids
and
whatnot.
K
A
Thank
you
for
your
comment.
Next
caller.
A
B
As
a
reminder,
we
are
currently
on
support
testimony
on
senate
bill
78.
If
you
have
recently
joined
the
call
and
would
like
to
testify
in
support,
please
press
star
nine
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
color
with
the
last
three
digits
755.,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin.
F
F
I
asked
to
speak
because
my
letter
by
itself
is
probably
not
enough
and
in
two
minutes
I
might
not
be
able
to
finish
reading
my
letter,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
read
my
letter.
Letters
tend
to
be
grouped
in
two
groups,
those
in
favor
and
those
who
are
opposed,
and
my
letter
has
three
points
which
are
each
individually
worthy
of
consideration.
F
D
F
Residents
should
support
sb
78,
so
number
one.
It
is
necessary
to
change
how
the
wildlife
commissioners
are
selected.
Currently,
recommendations
seem
to
stem
from
the
nevada
department
of
wildlife
career
executives,
who
favor
wildlife
board
commissioners
who
respond
more
to
employee
career
enhancements
than
the
wildlife
needs.
F
F
The
biologists
enforcement
support
staff,
I
know,
are
diligent,
hard-working
professionals
who
provide
more
value
than
their
compensation.
My
complaint
is
that
endow
is
getting
bigger
instead
of
better
and
quickly.
Number
two
economics
and
cash
flow
is
the
ultimate
factor
in
determining
the
success
of
an
organization,
and
it's
for
this
reason
that
a
master
guide
should
be
a
wildlife.
Commissioner,
I
am
a
licensed
sub
guide.
I'm
not
a
master
guide,
yet
I
favor
guide
master
guide
for
the
commission
position
instead
of
a
sub-guide.
F
B
B
A
Great
thank
you
bps.
Before
we
proceed
to
opposition
again,
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
if
I
do
end
up
cutting
you
off
or
if
you
feel
like
you
have
anything
else
that
you'd
like
to
mention
that
was
not
mentioned
within
those
two
minutes
time
frames.
I
would
strongly
urge
you
to
please
communicate
to
my
committee
and
send
us
a
written
testimony
so
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
include
that
so
let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
the
testimony
in
opposition.
B
B
F
Yes,
my
name
is
larry
johnson,
I'm
president
of
the
coalition
for
nevada's
wildlife,
and
I'm.
I
want
to
thank
the
chair
and
members
of
the
senate
natural
resource
committee
for
this
opportunity.
We
are
in
opposition
to
this
bill.
We
feel
the
wildlife
commission
functions
very
well
in
its
present
form.
F
F
F
F
F
Requirements
by
law,
and
so
this
is
an
invalid
complaint,
in
fact,
on
all
applications,
there's
a
box
to
check
on
each
application.
It
says
I
want
my
name
made
public
or
I
want
my
name
kept
private.
In
summary,
we
don't
see
the
need
for
this
bill
and
we
urge
your
opposition.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
In.
B
E
My
name
is
tiffany
east
t-I-f-f-a-n-y,
east
e-a-s-t
good
afternoon,
chair
donate
and
committee
members
for
the
record.
My
name
is
tiffany
east
and
I'm
the
chairwoman
of
the
nevada
board
of
wildlife
commissioners.
The
legislative
committee
of
the
wildlife
commission
opposes
sb-78.
The
full
commission
will
vote
on
this
and
other
bills.
At
our
march
19th
meeting
over
the
years.
Attempts
to
change
the
composition
of
the
wildlife
commission
have
failed.
I'd
like
to
think
it's,
because
we
have
a
clear
mission.
The
nevada
wildlife
commission
is
a
nine-member
governor
appointed
board.
E
E
In
fact,
throughout
the
last
15
years,
endow
has
been
the
subject
to
a
series
of
27
audits,
ranging
in
tight
from
law
enforcement
to
fiscal
and
grant
compliance,
sb
78
attempts
to
add
two
positions
to
the
commission:
a
master
guide
and
an
elected
official.
At
any
time,
any
of
nevada's,
more
than
100
licensed
master
guides
can
apply
for
any
of
these
feats.
E
We
believe
that
adding
a
master
guide
to
the
wildlife
commission
creates
conflicts
that
will
require
considerable
abstention
from
voting
on
regulations,
season
dates
and
quotas.
Non-Resident
guided
hunts,
allow
alone
provide
a
substantial
income
about
a
minimum
of
one
million
dollars
annually
to
the
outfitters
commissioners.
Do
not
gain
from
this.
E
Finally,
14
of
nevada's
17
counties
have
active
cab.
They
often
tell
us
how
difficult
it
is
for
them
to
find
members
and
engage
the
public
to
provide
input
to
the
commission.
As
I've
stated
on
the
record
in
the
past,
I'm
open
to
working
through
many
of
the
guides
and
outfitters
concerns.
We
respectfully
urge
you
to
oppose
sb
78.
Thank
you.
B
O
Hi,
this
is
jeff
dixon,
juliet
echo
foxtrot
box,
trot
delta,
indigo
x-ray
oscar
november,
I'm
the
nevada
state
director
for
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states.
Thank
you,
chair
donate
vice
chair
scheible
and
members
of
the
committee
on
natural
resources
on
behalf
of
our
nevada
members
and
volunteers.
O
The
nevada
board
of
wildlife
commissioners
is
already
heavily
skewed
towards
serving
the
interests
of
the
small
share
of
nevadans
who
hunt
in
fish
and
otherwise
prefer
lethal
methods
of
wildlife
management.
The
majority
of
the
seats
5
of
9
are
designated
for
a
member
who
is
a
hunter
angler
or
boat.
The
proposed
expansion
to
including
licensed
guide
would
maintain
lethal
recreation's
majority.
O
The
nevada
state
report
of
the
recent
american
wildlife
values
survey
found
that
a
plurality
of
nevadans
44
of
us
hold
a
mutualist
orientation,
meaning
that
we
believe
wildlife
are
part
of
our
social
network
and
that
we
should
live
in
harmony.
This
is
twice
the
share
of
traditionalists,
who
believe
wildlife
should
be
used
and
managed
for
human
benefit.
O
We
instead
recommend,
although
we
are
not
currently
proposing
an
amendment
but
for
future
consideration,
an
alternative
composition
to
the
commission
that
proportionately
represents
nevada's,
mutualist
values
and
non-lethal
recreation
interests.
The
commission
should
include
representation
from
ethicists
wildlife,
watchers
and
other
non-consumptive
users,
rather
than
more
members
from
the
already
well-represented
interests,
as
proposed
in
this
bill.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
P
P
P
P
P
The
federal
department
of
interior
study
proves
wildlife
watcher
money,
substantially,
eclipses
wildlife,
killer
money,
the
pittance
paid
in
endow
license
fees
doesn't
cover
the
loss
of
value
to
the
public
when
its
wildlife
is
permanently
severed
from
the
land
akin
to
gold
mining.
Sb
78
deserves
complete
rejection.
Thank.
P
B
B
E
E
Hunting
guides
do
not
contribute
much
revenue
to
our
our
state
economy,
lack
formal
education
or
training,
in
fact,
due
to
their
short-sightedness
of
taking
and
harvesting
wildlife.
We
are
seeing
declining
populations
of
wildlife
and
we
are
seeing
an
imbalance
between
apex,
predators
and
non-predators.
E
There
are
many
problems
facing
our
state
and
our
country.
We
live
in
an
era
of
unprecedented
extinction,
problems
like
urban
sprawl
and
climate.
The
hunting
industry
is
dying.
We
are
not
in
1947
as
previous
comments.
How
will
they
feed
their
family?
How
about
what
legacy
will
they
feed
their
family
with
in
the
next
few
decades,
when
there
aren't
the
populations
of
these
of
these
animals
to
exterminate
nrs
501
expresses
that
the
nevada
wildlife
commission
shall
establish
policies
and
adopt
regulations
necessary
to
the
preservation,
protection
management
and
restoration
of
wildlife
in
its
habitat.
E
This
board,
the
wildlife
commission
is
already
predominantly
pro-hunter
male
representative,
noticeably
absent
for
a
commission
explicitly
tasked
with
the
preservation
and
protection
of
wildlife.
Are
wildlife
and
natural
resource
advocates
as
such,
sc
78
does
nothing
more
than
further
stack
an
already
stacked
deck
in
favor
of
nevada's
historical
pro-hunter
representation.
E
Our
great
state
needs
to
have
conservationists
working
in
concert
with
hunters
so
that
everybody
can
enjoy
what
resources
we
have
left.
Urban
sprawl
is
a
very
big
problem
right
now
and
will
continue
to
do
so.
Our
state
is
changing.
The
vast
majority
of
nevada
oppose
hunting
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
A
A
Thank
you
for
your
comment.
Next,
caller.
B
M
M
Thankfully,
recent
articles
in
the
las
vegas
review
journal
and
nevada
current
show
that
wildlife
watchers
do
contribute
to
the
state's
economy,
even
the
zinke
trump
2018,
revision
of
the
2016
u.s
fish
and
wildlife,
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
revenue.
The
survey
excuse
me
of
wildlife.
Recreation
shows
non-consumptive
recreation
revenue
in
this
country
at
775.9
billion
dollars.
M
The
funding
of
wildlife,
youth,
pitman,
robertson
and
dingle
johnson
includes
wildlife
watchers
who
buy
handguns
ammo
archery
boats
boat
fuel.
I
think
you
get
the
picture
that
these
federal
excise
tax
transfers
are
not
all
hunter
sourced.
It
is
time
to
end
the
false
narrative
that
wildlife
watchers
cannot
have
a
voice
in
wildlife
conservation
due
to
money.
We
do
contribute
financially
to
our
state's
economy
and
we
do
contribute
financially
to
wildlife
and
by
statute.
Wildlife
in
the
state
belongs
to
all
nevadans.
M
M
B
Q
Hi,
this
is
stephanie
myers,
s-t-e-p-h-a-n-I-e
last
name
myers
m-y-e-r-s
from
las
vegas.
I
have
attended
almost
every
nevada
wildlife
commission
meeting,
either
in
person
or
by
video
conference
for
the
past
20
years.
For
that
entire
time
the
composition
of
the
commission
has
been
lopsided,
but
sb
78
doesn't
begin
to
address
that
imbalance
on
the
board.
Q
Q
B
N
P-A-T-R-I-C-K-D-O-N-N-E-L-L-Y,
I'm
nevada
state
director
with
the
center
for
biological
diversity.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
We
oppose
sb
78
as
it's
currently
written.
First,
we
need
to
look
at
how
things
currently
stand
and
you've
heard
people
go
through
this,
so
I
won't
reiterate,
but
the
bottom
line
is
the
the
current
board
of
wildlife.
Commissioners
is
totally
out
of
sync,
with
the
population
of
nevada,
there's
more
hunters,
more
farmers,
more
rural
people
than
the
overall
population
of
the
state,
and
so
it
doesn't
really
represent
nevadans
and
our
views
on
wildlife.
N
This
bill
would
not
fix
the
problems
with
the
commission.
In
fact,
it
would
exacerbate
the
problems
of
the
composition
of
the
commission
by
further
entrenching
power
with
the
hunters
and
in
the
rural
parts
of
the
state.
If
we're
going
to
be
changing
the
commission
of
the
composition
of
the
wildlife
commission,
we
should
look
at
a
bunch
of
different
areas,
including
ecotourism,
because
a
lot
of
us
enjoy
nevada's
wildlife
without
killing
it.
We
should
consider
adding
a
slot
for
nevada's
indigenous
communities
who
are
currently
unrepresented
on
the
commission.
N
We
should
also
consider
scientists,
you
know
why
do
we
not
currently
have
a
slot
for
biologists?
Ultimately,
why
should
we
have
a
commission
composed
of
a
majority
hunters
making
decisions
about
wildlife
in
a
state
which
is
overwhelmingly
full
of
people
who
don't
hunt?
We
need
to
dramatically
overhaul
the
composition
of
the
nevada
board
of
wildlife
commissioners.
We
don't
need
to
further
enhance
the
power
of
entrenched
interests
which
already
control
it,
which
this
bill
does.
So
please
reject
this
bill.
Thank
you
for
your.
N
B
R
Jackie
chandler
j-a-c-q-u-I-e
c-h-a-n-d-l-e-r,
the
executive
director
of
sustainable
tahoe.
Our
mission
is
to
accelerate
the
adoption
of
geotourism
in
the
tahoe
watershed
and
we
vehemently
oppose
sb
78
the
way
it
is
written
because,
as
all
the
previous
last
six
callers
have
said,
it
does
nothing
to
diversify
the
board.
It
only
amplifies
the
one
voice,
which
is
less
than
five
percent
of
nevada's.
I
remember
when
the
bear
hunt
was
moving
forward
and
they
did
a
vote
and
the
public
was
95
against
the
bear.
R
Hunt
and
100
of
the
bears
were
against
the
bear
hunt,
but
they
went
and
they
put
it
in
anyway
and
when
they
were
interviewed
on
the
radio
they
said.
Why
didn't
you
listen
to
the
will
of
the
people
and
they
said
we
just
wanted
it.
We
wanted
to
hunt,
we
put
it
through.
They
didn't
care.
There
was
no
representation
of
the
voice
at
large,
which
was
95.
R
If
there
is
anything
to
be
done,
it
would
be
to
reorder
the
board
to
truly
reflect
the
views
of
nevadans
that
want
to
load
cameras,
not
guns.
People
want
to
take
pictures,
not
lives.
There
are
not
unlimited
resources
to
continue
to
hunt
if
everybody
has
a
hunting
license.
There'll
be
nothing
left,
we're
already
on
the
edge
of
extinctions
and
if
we
don't
give
habitat
back
to
the
wildlife
we're
going
to
be
in
that
lineup
of
extinctions.
R
B
B
B
K
Hello,
my
name
is
kyle
davis,
that's
k-y-l-e-d-a-v-I-s,
and
I
appear
today
on
behalf
of
the
coalition
for
nevada's
wildlife.
We
are
opposed
to
sb-78
if
you've
heard
in
pre-previous
testimony.
The
wildlife
commission
process
is
not
broken.
The
board
hears
input
from
county
advisory
boards
from
every
county
in
the
state
these
boards
are
appointed
by
county
commissioners.
K
From
those
that
have
experience
with
and
responsibility
to
wildlife,
the
complaints
that
you
have
heard
today
in
both
the
support
and
opposition
testimony,
are
trying
to
change
the
board
simply
because
they
disagree
with
some
of
the
decisions
to
be
clear.
Sportsmen
and
women
also
have
complaints
about
some
of
the
decisions
that
the
commission
has
made
over
the
years,
but
we
understand
that
this
is
a
part
of
the
public
process.
K
The
coalition
for
nevada's
wildlife
supports
the
scientific
management
of
wildlife.
This
management
has
brought
our
game
populations
back
from
the
brink
of
extinction
in
our
state,
and
we
believe
that
the
existing
commission
process
does
an
excellent
job
of
doing
that,
of
managing
our
wildlife
according
to
the
science,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
have
healthy
wildlife
populations.
K
Many
of
the
finest
conservationists
in
the
state
have
served
on
and
do
serve
on
the
commission.
This
is
not
a
broken
process.
This
is
a
commission
that
takes
their
job
seriously.
I
would
argue
more
seriously
than
many
other
boards
and
commissions
in
the
state
and
feels
a
strong
responsibility
to
the
health
to
healthy
wildlife
populations
in
our
state.
We
urge
this
committee
to
reject
sb
78.
B
A
Time,
thank
you.
Bps
do
we
have
finally,
do
we
have
anyone
willing
to
testify
in
neutral
on
this
bill.
B
A
C
Chair
donati,
yes,
just
just
a
couple
of
quick
ones.
I
I
would
ask
the
committee
to
at
least
look
and
consider
the
language
in
there
that
allows
us
to
go
back
to
the
process
where
the
cabs
do
in
fact
nominate
those
members
of
the
wildlife
commission
clearly
that
that
is
a
countable
process.
We
heard
some
dialogue
about
people
wanting
more
representation.
C
A
Thank
you
senator
good
to
see
you
for
that
clarification
before
I
go
ahead
and
close
this,
I
just
want
to
mention
again
thank
you
to
everyone
that
participated
in
the
testimony
for
today
regarding
sb-78
regarding
the
opinion
poll
as
of
3
15
pm.
Today
we
had
44
submitted
for
the
bill
and
64
against
and
in
terms
of
letters
that
we
received.
A
We
received
three
in
support
and
16
in
opposition,
so
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
on
the
record,
but
with
that,
let's
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
sb
78
and
we
can
go
ahead
and
proceed
to
our
next
bill
senate
bill
114..
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and,
if
you
thought
I
was
over
my
skis
on
the
last
bill.
Wait
for
this
one
again,
senator
piquet,
bringing
senate
bill
number
114
again.
We
do
have
a
significant
amendment
to
the
bill
and
really
the
long
and
short
of
it
and
I'll.
Be
very
brief,
because
there
are
some
people
here
that
are
can
in
fact
testify
to
the
bill
with
far
more
expertise
than
I
do.
C
But
the
long
and
the
short
of
this
this
bill
was
patterned
after
a
bill
that
came
out
of
virginia
and
did
pass
the
virginia
legislature
and
really
what
it's
about
is
to
make
it
legal
and
at
the
point,
the
fda
or
the
usda
does
pass
federal
regulations
pertaining
to
the
use
of
hemp
in
food
products
and
or
well
in
any
product
industrial
product.
What
would
what
we're
attempting
to
do
is
to
poison
nevada
in
a
position
where
we
can
in
fact
provide
a
market
for
a
growing
hemp
industry
in
the
state?
C
It's
it's
a
huge
industry.
We've
got
significant
acreage
and
I
know
you'll
hear
from
some
of
the
people
that
are
actively
engaged
in
in
production
in
this
state
and
clearly
are
looking
for
the
clarification
and
the
ability
to
in
fact
use
those
those
products.
C
Now
it's
kind
of
confusing
and
as
we
brought
the
amendment
forward,
we
have
clarified
that
it
is
not
necessarily
a
food
establishment
because
we're
trying
to
avoid
a
huge
fiscal
note,
but
it
is
really
to
make
it
available
a
used,
hemp
or
a
commodity
or
a
product
made
from
hemp
that
would
allow
for
that
to
be
actually
used
in
the
state
of
nevada.
C
Nevada
does
prohibit
the
use
of
hemp
in
production
here
and
so
clearly
that's
what
we're
attempting
to
bring
forward
with
sb
114
and
if
you'd
like.
I
can
walk
you
through
the
amendments,
but
I
think
again
some
of
the
the
presenters
that
are
actually
in
hemp
production
can
do
a
far
better
job.
So
with
that
I'll
just
stand
for
questions.
Unless
you
have
questions
pertaining
to
the
amendment
to
the
bill.
A
Thank
you
senator
do
any
of
my
committee.
Members
have
questions
specifically
to
him
before
we
move
on
to
the
other
presenters.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
at
this
point,
so
senator
kokuchi,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
move
on
with
your
other
two
presenters.
So
I
believe
we
have
miss
donner
donna
bath
and
mr
john
khalsa,
so
donna.
If
you're
on
the
line,
you
can
go
ahead
and
proceed.
H
H
H
As
mr
senator
gokuchiya
mentioned,
the
intent
of
this
bill
is
to
authorize
food
that
contains
hemp
at
the
federal
legal
limit
to
be
produced
or
sold
at
food
establishments
under
certain
conditions.
In
nevada,
trackers
of
the
u.s
camp
industry
estimate
that
the
market,
the
cbd
products,
will
grow
from
390
million
dollars
in
2018
to
approximately
1.3
billion
dollars
by
2022..
H
H
There
are
approximately
16
states
that
have
already
passed
legislation
to
similar
to
sb
114
and
are
enjoying
the
economic
benefit
of
companies
that
were
interested
in
adding
legal
limit
cbd
to
their
established
food
products
and
are
now
manufacturing
and
selling
safe
cbd.
Infused
products
in
their
state.
H
H
We
are
very
encouraged
by
the
fact
that
this
federal
legislation
was
reintroduced.
So
early
in
the
new
congress
and
feel
very
strongly
that
the
passage
of
sb
114
will
certainly
position
nevada
early
to
reap
the
economic
benefits
of
the
expanding
market
for
hemp,
infused
food
products
and
industry.
Once
it's
passed
federally,
we
at
silver
lion
farms
are
very
aware
of
the
economic
hardship
we
are
all
currently
facing
and
are
very
mindful
of
the
state
budget
and
unfortunate
necessary
cutbacks.
H
We
feel
that
any
possible
fiscal
impact
to
state
budget
by
passage
of
sb
114
regulations
would
would
more
than
made
up
by
the
economic
benefit.
The
expanding
hemp
industry
would
bring
to
nevada
manufacturers
that
are
very
interested
in
enhancing
their
products
with
cbd.
In
order
to
meet
the
growing
hemp
infused
product
demand
are
going
to
relocate
in
the
states
that
allow
them
to
do
so
legally.
H
A
S
S
I
know
it's
a
new
industry
and
it's
it's
it's
hard
to
understand
the
rails
and
the
direction
that
it's
all
going
in
silverline
farms
is
an
organic
hemp,
farm
and
ingredient
supply
company.
We
have
invested
nearly
100
million
dollars
in
nevada's
hemp
agriculture
and
have
created
thousands
of
jobs
over
the
last
three
years.
Up
here
in
ely,
hemp
is
a
new
economy
that
is
legal
in
all.
S
S
S
It
only
makes
sense
to
take
advantage
of
hemp
agriculture
in
the
state
by
making
new
products
from
it
right
here
in
the
state.
Currently,
nevada
sells
products
made
from
cbd,
but
we
can't
manufacture
them
in
the
state,
which
kind
of
doesn't
make
sense.
We
should
be
taking
advantage
of
our
own
natural
resources
manufacturing
those
products
here
in
the
state
and
then
selling
them
here
in
the
state
to
create
much
greater
revenue
overall
for
the
state.
S
S
S
A
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
my
committee
members.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
have
a
question
either
for
the
senator
or
for
mr
khalsa
in
in
section
two.
It
talks
about
identifying
the
contaminants
and
then
labeling
correctly
labeling
it,
and
it
appears
as
if
that
generated.
A
fiscal
note
is
in
the
products
you
currently
are,
are
manufacturing
or
is.
Is
there
a
labeling
process,
that's
required
as
well
from
I
guess
it
would
be
from
the
department
of
agriculture,
or
in
this
case
no,
it's
dhhs.
S
Senator
I
can't
answer
that
if
you
wish
yeah
go
ahead,
mr
chair,
no,
actually
it's
it's
supposed
to
be,
but
dhs
currently
hasn't
issued
what
those
what
those
requirements
are.
So
even
though
it's
it's
in
the
it's
in
the
bills,
it
hasn't
yet
materialized
into.
Actually
what
is
required
on
the
labeling,
but
cbd.
Actually
or
hemp
is
truly
just
it's
just
another
ingredient.
It
would
be
like
adding
echinacea
or
ginseng
or
or
some
something
of
the
sort
to
a
caffeine
even
to
a
product.
S
S
There
are
no
just
like
in
in
any
agricultural
product
that
there's
no
pesticides,
there's
no
heavy
metals
and
there's
no
contaminants
of
any
kind
in
the
product,
and
so
all
hemp
manufacturers
who
manufacture,
who
create
the
ingredient
of
cbd
and
sell
it
to
a
food
manufacturer
supplies
that
food
manufacturer
with
that
certificate
of
analysis.
That
shows
that
the
product
has
passed
and
that
there's
no
problem
with
the
product
kind
of
like
any,
almost
any
other
agricultural.
C
Mr
chair,
if
I
made
this
senator
gregory
and
again,
I
have
had
some
conversations
with
our
state
health
department
and,
and
they
are
the
ones
that
would
be
generating
the
fiscal
note
on
this
senator
brooks
because
they
are
concerned
until,
as
john
said
at
the
point,
the
the
the
feds
do,
in
fact,
on
the
federal
level
incorporate
those
contaminants.
There
were
those
guidelines.
C
The
state
is
concerned,
they'll
be
in
the
middle.
So
technically,
what
we're
seeking
to
do
with
the
bill
is
to
poise
it
have
it
in
place
when
the
federal
requirements
are
in
fact
passed,
then
the
state
would
have
the
capability
fairly
easily
to
pick
that
up
through
our
own
health
and
human
services,
but
without
without
having
the
federal
bill
in
place,
then
they
are
concerned.
It
would
be
a
huge
list
for
them
to
have
to
go
in
and
test
and
license.
D
A
Thank
you,
xander
brooks
any
other
questions
at
this
time.
A
Seeing
none,
the
only
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
is:
I
think
we
do
have
representatives
from
hhs
on
the
phone
line
so
we'll
hear
from
them
when
we
open
testimony.
A
The
one
thing
that
I
want
to
say
is:
I
think
we
there's
definitely
a
need
for
exchanging
requirements
on
labeling
purposes,
just
because
of
the
conversation
that
could
arise
from
a
public
health
standpoint
about
access,
so
making
sure
that
all
that
is
aligned
in
the
future
would
be
important,
I'm
interested
in
hearing
from
their
perspective
once
we
open
testimony-
and
I
hope
that
hhs
covers
this-
should
this
bill
move
forward,
let's
go
ahead,
seeing
that
there
are
no
other
questions
at
this
time.
Let's
go
ahead
and
move
to
testimony.
A
B
B
M
Mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
adrian
snow.
That's
a
d.
I
last
name
snow
s-n-o-w,
I'm
one
of
the
founders
of
western
states,
hemp,
which
is
one
of
nevada's,
longest
standing
and
most
diversified
growing
operations
for
hemp.
M
The
market
was
flooded
nationwide,
with
a
supply
of
hemp
biomass
due
to
the
number
of
hemp
growers
that
tried
their
hand
at
farming.
The
new
crop
post,
2018
farm
bill.
This
over
supply
resulted
in
a
massive
price
drop
for
the
fledgling
commodity
and
companies
like
mine
that
had
the
means
and
willingness
to
produce
a
number
of
retail
products
for
which
there
was
high
demand
were
not
allowed
to
do
so.
The
moratorium
that
exists
throughout
nevada
to
manufacture,
cbd
and
hemp
derived
goods
consumed
orally
inhibited
us
from
doing
so
within
the
silver
state
throughout
nevada.
M
You
will
find
an
array
of
edibles
containing
cbd
which
are
legally
sold
here
as
a
business
owner
who
has
paid
a
massive
price
to
pave
the
way
for
the
industry.
It's
extremely
disheartening
to
see
retail
goods
made
outside
of
our
state,
given
precedence
over
the
businesses
trying
to
maintain
and
pay
taxes
here
in
the
state.
M
Last
month
in
a
joint
venture
product,
this
team
launched
a
line
of
canned
drinks
with
a
gross
sales
of
three
million
dollars
in
just
two
weeks.
This
company
still
wants
to
set
up
an
operation
in
the
silver
state,
but
can
only
do
so
if
sb
114
is
supported.
Therefore,
I
ask
you
to
consider
supporting
the
bill
to
give
farmers
and
businesses
the
opportunity
to
create
wealth
and
wellness
through
our
state
farming
products.
A
Thank
you
for
comment
next
caller.
Please.
B
F
B
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
opposition
at
this
time.
B
Q
Q
There
is
limited
and
independent
research
on
the
health
and
safety
of
this
product
as
a
food
additive,
including
the
appropriate
quantities
allowed
per
serving
as
currently
written
and
with
a
proposed
amendment.
Washoe
county
health
district
would
require
would
require
additional
research,
training
and
staff
to
meet
the
requirements
of
this
bill.
It
would
also
require
the
updating
of
existing
food
regulations,
which
is
a
public
process.
Q
Our
estimated
cost
would
be
around
155
000
annually
if
this
bill
moves
forward,
and
we
didn't
submit
a
fiscal
note,
because
we
were
waiting
for
the
intent
of
this
hearing,
but
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record
that
we
have
been
in
conversation
with
the
bill
sponsor,
and
we
appreciate
his
intent
and
appreciate
him
working
with
us.
Q
B
A
Thank
you
bps
at
this
time
are
there
anyone
is
there
anyone
else
left
for
neutral.
B
R
Good
afternoon
this
is
margo
chapel
m-a-r-g-o-t
c-h-a-p-p-e-l,
I'm
a
deputy
administrator
with
the
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health,
and
we
did
attach
the
fiscal
note.
I'd
be
happy
to
ask
questions,
it's
primarily
to
implement
the
bill
as
written,
because
we
don't
currently
have
a
problem
program
like
this.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Should
the
committee
desire,
thank
you.
B
B
A
Thank
you
so
much
senator
good
good.
Do
you
have
any
last
minute
remarks
that
you'd
like
to
mention.
C
You,
mr
chair
and
I
was
hoping-
maybe
I
could
get
mrs
bath
or
gion-
to
respond
back
to
the
the
question
pretty
much
a
question
from
washington
county
health
district,
and
that
is
maybe
I
misspoke,
but
I
I
thought
we
could
make
this
bill
passage
contingent
on
on
the
federal
re
change
in
the
federal
regulations.
If
that
would
be
in
fact
acceptable
for
them.
H
H
There
are
16
other
states,
as
I
said
that
are
currently
doing
this,
with
the
legal
limits
of
the
hemp
and
the
labeling
requirements,
as
gion
said,
are
already
being
done,
and
our
organic
and
any
of
the
industry
that
we
are
producing
for,
especially
in
the
organic.
We
have
a
very
strict
labeling
policy
and
everything
that
we
have
to
follow
already
in
existence.
H
So
you
know
if
half,
if
we
have
to
wait
for
the
federal
regs,
I'm
hopeful
that
will
be
very
very
soon.
There
are
other
states
that
are
completely
doing
it.
Right
now
and
as
guillain
said,
there
are
businesses
that
are
positioning
themselves
for
when
this
federal
legislation
passes,
they're
ready
to
go,
they're
ready
to
go,
and
we
certainly
want
to
take
that
opportunity,
as
adrian
snow
testified
to
you,
they
are
manufacturers.
H
We
are
not
manufacturers
of
silver
lion
farm,
we're
a
product
provider,
but
they
are
manufacturers,
and
it
does
seem
very
unfair
that
you
can
go
to
downtown
ely.
Here's
a
picture
of
one
that
is
purchased
off
the
shelf,
yet
miss
snow
and
her
partner
are
unable
to
attract
industry
to
come
to
their
town.
So
I
guess
my
question
would
be:
is
how
do
we
get
around
making
this
a
fair
playing
field?
If
you
will
for
the
nevada
businesses?
H
On
the
other
hand,
I
would
much
rather
see
that
nevada,
take
control
of
this,
and
anybody
that
wants
to
sell
infused
products
in
the
state
of
nevada
would
have
to
go
through
the
same
regulations
as
any
other
manufacturer
in
the
state
of
nevada
would
have
to
do,
and
that
would
place
our
nevada
businesses
on
a
more
level
playing
field.
H
So
right
now,
I
feel
that
we
are
consuming
the
hemp
they're
we're
buying
the
hemp,
but
unfortunately
our
manufacturers
in
nevada
are
being
stunted
in
their
growth
by
not
being
able
to
take
the
same
opportunity
that
the
manufacturers
in
say
ore
and
virginia
texas,
they're
importing
all
this
stuff
into
nevada,
and
I
feel
like
we're
really
missing
that
opportunity
and
really
putting
the
hit
on
our
manufacturing
opportunities
in
nevada.
C
Thank
you,
donna
and
chairman
donati.
If,
with
your
indulgence,
I'll
continue
to
work
on
the
bill,
see
if
we
can
find
the
middle
ground
see
if
there
is
some
way
we
can
get
this
movement
forward
and
talking
with
miss
chabel
to
see
if,
if
there
is
somewhere
before
you,
we
actually
hit
a
deadline
with
your
with
your
indulgence,
I'll
continue
to
work
on
it.
A
Thank
you
senator
gloe.
For
that
clarification,
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
for
now
we,
I
think
we're
good
and
we
can
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
sb-114
and
I
just
remind
the
public
that
the
committee
will
not
be
taking
any
action
on
sb,
78
or
sb
114
today,
but
they
may
be
brought
back
for
a
future
work
session
with
that,
let's
go
ahead
and
finish
off
with
public
comments,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
for
public
comment.
A
B
B
B
A
Great,
thank
you.
Bps.
Let's
go
ahead
and
close
public
comment.
Members
are
there
any
last-minute
questions
or
remarks.
A
Seeing
none
again,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
cooperation
and
to
all
the
presenters
and
anyone
that
participated
in
today's
meeting.
Our
next
meeting
is
thursday
march
11th
at
3,
30
pm,
and
with
that
this
meeting
is
now
a
drink.
Thank.