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A
A
So
before
we
begin,
I
would
like
to
explain
how
virtual
committee
meetings
will
work,
since
this
is
a
new
process
for
all
of
us.
As
you
know,
the
legislative
building
is
currently
closed
to
the
public,
so
all
committee
meetings
will
be
held
virtually
meaning
committee
members
staff
and
everyone
else
will
participate
either
through
zoom
video
conference
or
by
telephone.
A
However,
there
are
various
ways
members
of
the
public
can
engage
with
us
and
participate
through
the
process.
As
in
previous
sessions,
all
committee-related
information
is
available
on
nellis,
which
is
the
nevada
electronic
legislative
information
system,
and
it's
also
which
is
accessible
on
the
legislators
website.
There
are
four
ways
to
engage
with
this
committee.
A
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registration
is
submitted,
you
will
see
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confirmation
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You
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Just
note
that,
while
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registration
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participate,
it
does
not
guarantee,
you
will
be
able
to
speak
similar
to
previous
sessions.
Testimony
and
public
comment
may
be
limited
due
to
time
constraints.
A
A
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for
participating
in
committee
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which
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the
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If
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A
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
It's
an
honor
to
be
here,
particularly
before
this
committee.
A
I
have
worked
with
all
of
you
in
my
former
private
life,
in
my
public
life
of
business
and
industry,
and
now
in
my
life
here
at
goed,
leading
economic
development
and
and
I'm
pleased
also
with
this
committee,
because
I
know
its
membership
comprised
some
of
the
most
experienced
members
in
the
area
of
economic
development
and
associated
areas
such
as
housing
and
workforce
development
and
and
and
frankly,
look
forward
to
working
with
you
as
we
find
our
way
through
the
the
damage
done
by
the
pandemic.
Instead
of
set
the
course
for
a
future
nevada.
A
I've
been
here
since
november
of
19.
When
governor
schizolac
appointed
me
to
this
post,
I
initially
started
a
process
of
understanding.
You
know
where,
where
we
were
in
the
in
the
as
we
compared
to
other
states,
and
I
went
back
to
dc,
I
met
with
about
10,
think
tanks
focused
on
economic
development
decided
that
we
needed
to
update
the
state
economic
development
plan.
Just
thought
we
needed
to
unify
the
efforts
with
our
rda
partners.
A
We
needed
much
more
closer
partnerships
and
than
perhaps
that
we
have
had
had
at
that
point,
and
I
also
wanted
to
strengthen
the
compliance
programs
inside
this
agency
and
also
strengthen
our
audit
and
review
processes
with
the
department
of
taxation.
Jimmy
hum
actually
joined
us
from
iran
ford's
office
to
support
the
development
of
the
client
compliance
programs.
A
Here
to
help
with
that
area,
I
was
embarking
on
that
in
the
2019
economy,
went
to
the
las
vegas
las
vegas
preview,
preview,
las
vegas
in
january
of
2020,
and
it
was
going
to
be
the
biggest
year
ever
num
greatest
number
of
conventions,
greatest
number
of
visitors,
greatest
number
everything,
and
we
all
left
that
with
great
optimism
and
then
about
february
20th.
I
got
this
call
from
michelle
white,
the
governor's
chief
of
staff,
and
she
said
director
brown.
You
know
we're
going
to
need
some
help,
perhaps
on
this
on
this
issue.
A
That's
developing
in
china
with
respect
to
the
pandemic
and
we'd
like
to
borrow
greg
bortlen
back
from
you
to
help
with
some
areas
in
the
area
of
education,
and
that
was
kind
of
my
first
sign
that
maybe
maybe
something
was
was
really
going
to
start
to
happen.
Then
I
got
a
call
from
chief
white
again
on
march
13th
and
she
says
director
brown.
I
was
in
carson
city.
She
says:
how
fast
can
you
get
back
to
las
vegas
because
we're
going
to
have
to
make
some
major
decisions
over
the
weekend?
A
And
so
I
raced
back
to
las
vegas
and
literally,
I
think,
every
single
day
of
I
have
been
involved
somehow
in
the
response,
relief
or
recovery
from
the
pandemic.
Initially,
I
deployed
a
lot
of
go
ahead
staff
and
supported
the
response.
As
we
got
into
the
summer
months,
and
we
came,
we've
successfully
flattened
the
curve.
A
We
shifted
to
working
with
treasurer
conan
with
the
news
cares:
relief
dollars,
it
came
and
we
were
able
to
launch
several
relief,
two
relief
programs
for
small
business,
and
then
he
and
director
reynolds
with
minor
assistance
from
my
office,
worked
on
some
of
the
housing
programs
and
got
those
underway.
A
You
know
those
are
now
100
million
dollar
programs
in
small
business,
and
we
appreciate
the
legislature
support
of
that.
My
view
of
that
and
I've
been
using
the
term
dunkirk
was
how
do
I
rescue
as
many
small
businesses
as
we
can
from
the
beaches,
and
we
did
that
with
lots
and
lots
and
lots
of
small
grants.
A
Ten
thousand
dollars
for
small
businesses-
and
you
know,
I
think,
on
a
per
capita
basis.
A
And
so
then
we
set
about
trying
to
come
forward
with
a
recovery
plan
only
to
as
what
happened
in
1918
roll
into
a
second
phase
of
the
pandemic,
which
ended
up
with
you
know:
substantial
infection
rates
in
the
fall,
but
we
proceeded
in
that
area
and
right
now
we're
the
treasurer-
and
I
are
finishing
up
the
work
on
the
pets
grants
getting
that
money
out
the
door,
and
I
will
commend
the
civil
service
of
nevada
who
who
put
put
those
programs
together
and
were
available
to
help
businesses
as
they
called,
and
we
had
support
in
the
business
department,
business
and
industry.
A
The
controller
treasurer's
office,
the
legislative
council
bureau,
the
ifc,
and
it
was
amazing
how
many
people
actually
came
forward
to
help
us
put
those
together.
So
then
it
was
recovery.
Where
do
we
go
now
and
the
thing
that
I'm
learning
and
the
thing
I'm
reading
and
what
I'm
experiencing
now
is
looking
back
to
2019.
A
It
doesn't
take
us
forward
the
rear
view,
mirror
won't,
get
us
there,
and
so
I'm
going
to
bring
up
a
powerpoint
here
shortly,
which
we
used
in
another
committee,
and
I
think
most
of
you
have
seen
seen
it
and
so
I'll
go
through
it
quickly,
because
there's
a
high
level
of
experience
on
this
committee
and
a
high
level
of-
and
some
of
you
have
already
seen
this
and
frankly,
I'd
like
to
have
more
of
a
robust
discussion
with
you,
because
I
welcome
any
suggestions
and
ideas.
We've
gotten
wonderful
ideas
from
all
sorts
of
sources.
A
A
It's
it's
the
concept
of
partnership,
and
so
that's
that's.
How
we're
we're
going
going
forward.
You
know
the
governor
and
I
are
both
baby
boomers.
We
both
grew
up
as
teenagers
when
the
oil,
the
arab
oil
embargo
of
the
early
70s,
ended
the
period
of
prosperity
that
started
in
1945
and
ended
in
1974.,
both
of
us
for
the
sons
of
the
united
auto
workers,
who
watched
our
fathers
lose
their
jobs
when
the
midwest
rust
belt
restructured
itself
in
the
late
1970s
and
early
1980s.
A
A
I
will
say
this,
as
I
turn
to
the
powerpoint
in
a
second
here,
is
that
we're
getting
a
number
of
inquiries
from
the
kinds
of
companies
we
want
to
come
to
nevada
and-
and
I
do
believe
that
that
there
are
opportunities
here
and
I'll
walk
through
this
powerpoint
quickly,
so
that
you
see
these
so
that
you
understand
the
perspective,
and
I
really
do
welcome
all
of
your
input
on
this.
A
A
I
think
I
was
successful
great
I
this
is
something
you
know.
Senator
paul
laxalt
taught
me
about
the
three
states
in
nevada
back
when
I
first
became
associated
with
nevada
in
the
late
1990s
and
but
brookhaven's
mountain
west
has
caused
me
to
think
about
nevada
slightly
differently
and
that's
to
look
at
both
our
position
as
a
pacific
time
zone
state
our
position
as
a
pacific
rim
state
and
the
interconnected.
A
We
have
with
some
of
the
healthiest
most
robust
economies
in
the
united
states.
You
know
I
have
had
a
lot
of
people
talking
to
me
about
texas,
and
I
said
the
first
thing
I've
learned
when
I
talk
to
businesses
that
have
gone
to
texas.
Is
they
like
texas,
because
it's
in
the
central
time
zone
they
can
do
business
on
both
sides
of
the
country
simultaneously.
A
I
could
say
I
hired
sri
international
initially
to
do
a
traditional
plan
about
now.
We've
come
out
of
the
pandemic
and,
and
things
are
still
uncertain,
mckenzie
put
out
something
that
I
still
believe
right
now
is
the
most
insightful
thing.
A
I've
read
the
next
normal
arrives
trends
that
will
define
21
and
beyond,
and
and
essentially
saying
that
we
will
look
back
on
this
period
and
we
will
define
it
as
a
pre-pandemic
economy
and
a
post-pandemic
economy,
and
what
came
out
of
our
research,
which
included
consultations
with
about
200
plus
nevada
leaders
and
the
economic
work
that
these
kinds
of
folks
do
as
a
profession.
They
said
advanced
manufacturing,
an
energy,
world-class
zero-carbon
economy,
the
health
sector,
the
tech
sector
and
also
a
nevada
as
a
remote
work
playground.
You
know
bill
gates
said
last
week.
A
A
They
made
a
series
of
recommendations,
some
of
which
found
their
way
into
the
state
of
the
state,
some
of
which
are
are
still
in
this
policy
document
and
available
for
you
to
consider
for
other
initiatives,
and
if
anyone
wants
briefed
on
any
part
of
this,
I
am
free
to
make
roland
our
rowan
stevens.
Our
advisor
on
this,
who
also
has
done
the
clark
county
plan
and
has
worked
with
lbga,
there's,
probably
no
individual
outside
of
nevada.
A
The
kinds
of
companies
that
want
to
talk
to
us
now
I
want
to
talk
about
land
and
railroads
and
highways
and
all
of
those
kinds
of
things
where,
just
a
year
ago,
they
were
more
about
office
parks
and
things
of
that
nature.
And
then
you
know
just
so
that
we
stay
on
track,
we've
kind
of
got
a
tracking
of
what
the
governor
has
put
forward.
A
Now,
I'm
going
to
get
a
little
a
little
more
theory
here
when
we
look
at
the
industries
that
can
create
growth
and
create
diversification
in
the
state
as
a
whole.
This
is
where
we
stand
and
the
upper
right
hand
box
is
the
best
box
to
be
in
that's
where
your
industry
stars
are.
We
have
mining
as
a
small
star
out
in
the
rurals.
We
have
strength,
though,
in
manufacturing
natural
resources,
which
is
energy,
information,
technology,
logistics,
health,
aerospace,
and
we
have
a
strong,
robust
gaming
industry.
A
That
is
a
huge
part
of
our
economy,
but
it
is
a
mature
industry
at
this
at
this
stage.
But
when
we
look
at
southern
nevada,
obviously
because
of
southern
nevada's
size,
it
tends
to
track
the
rest
of
the
state
and
dominate
its
position.
So
it
looks
very
similar
when
we
look
at
northern
nevada,
we
see
a
very
different
picture.
A
We
see
that
the
the
addition
of
tesla
panasonic
and
other
manufacturers
in
in
the
in
the
in
the
main
in
the
industrial
park
there
and
other
decisions
that
were
taken
in
logistics
and
operations,
has
strengthened
the
nevada,
northern
nevada
economy
substantially.
So
much
so
that
you
know
we're
dealing
with
issues
of
housing,
transportation
and
a
health
sector
that
is
is
not.
A
It
is
struggling
to
keep
up
with
the
new
demands
that
are
being
placed
on
it
and
and
like
I
say
we
can
at
any
time,
if
any
of
you
want
an
individual
briefing
on
this
deputy
director
bob
potts
and
his
staff,
which
was
the
the
the
golden
easter
egg.
I
found
when
I
took
this
job
are
available
to
assist
you
every
thursday.
Throughout
the
pandemic,
bob
has
convened
a
meeting
of
the
state
economist,
so
we
have
a
very
good
sense
of
what
what's
happening
in
in
the
state.
Rural
nevada.
A
Rural
nevada
is
we're
fortunate.
We
have
a
strong
mining
industry
in
rural
nevada,
so
we're
not
dealing
with
the
challenges
in
some
of
states
like
colorado,
where
they're
really
struggling
in
their
rurals,
but
obviously
we
have
mature
and
transforming
transforming's,
not
a
box.
You
want
to
be
in
I'm
from
cleveland.
I
know
what
transforming
industries
and
communities
are
like.
Rural
nevada
is
about
energy,
bringing
that
mining
supply
chain,
home
and
and
and
I
would
encourage
room
leaders
to
really
give
great
focus
to
whatever
we
can
do.
A
On
broadband
current
economics
situation,
22
percent
decline
in
in
service
industry
declined
22.
B
C
Ten
percent
versus
five
percent,
so
we
launched
those
relief
programs,
but
we
also
were
strong
partners
with
business
and
industry
and
the
sba
for
the
ppp
loan
program.
The
disaster
relief
loan
programs,
where
we
were
the
first
state
to
qualify
for
that
program
and
then
the
commercial
assistance
and
the
technical
support
program
or
the
pets
program,
which
has
been
the
most
most
popular
economic
development.
I
kind
of
talked
to
you
about
what
I
tried
to
do
when
I
first
got
here.
C
A
Of
in
fact,
I
was,
I
was
surprised,
I
said
to
my
staff-
I'd
really
like
a
chart
that
shows
the
the
entire
universe
of
people
involved
in
economic
development,
and
I
had
no
idea.
I
would
get
a
chart
with
these
many
this,
these
many
people
on
it
economic
development
tools.
We
have
business
development
tools,
abatements
and
incentives,
the
global
trade
program,
the
procurement
outreach
office,
which
I'm
trying
to
do
a
lot
more
creative
things
on
and
we'll
have
news
about
what
I
hope
to
do
in
that
area.
A
In
the
next
few
weeks,
a
small
business
program,
the
film
office,
then
in
the
workforce
we
have
the
win
program
of
which
we'll
consider
legislation
there.
I
will
tell
you,
I
I
asked
each
of
my
division
heads
when
I
joined
here
to
look
at
their
programs
and
said
you
know
this
agency
is
10
years
old.
Is
there
anything
we
need
to
do
to
update
you
know
and
modernize?
A
A
A
I've
really
gotten
to
know
leaders
like
peter
gozman
and
ken
evans
and
and
the
folks
that
lead
our
chambers
of
commerce,
and
I
really
want
to
do
more
and
how
we're
actually
connecting
some
of
the
new
businesses
that
are
coming
here
with
the
businesses
that
are
already
here
and
that's
an
initiative,
I'm
working
with
sonya
and
joan
in
our
office
on
now
to
start
to
to
build
out
top
line
here.
This
is
a
very
important
line.
A
C
D
Arizona
below
us,
96
colorado
within
a
stone's
throw
93
nevada,
rests,
regretfully
at
67
percent
as
one
of
the
least
diverse
economies
in
the
western
united
states,
and
this
is
what
we
need
to
fix
we've
if,
if
we
want
to
fix-
and
I
believe
this
committee
wants
to
see
and
this
legislature,
if
we
want
to
have
fiscal
stability,
then
we
need
a
more
robust
and
diversified
economy
and
and
and
to
drive
that
we
have
to
improve.
We
have
to
improve
our
score
on
the
hawkman
index.
C
County,
so
that
we're
able
to
to
show
you
know
all
the
what
the
what
the
index
is
for
each
part
of
a
part
of
the
state
and
as
soon
as
we
have
that
we
will
make
that
public.
D
Before
the
committee
and
talk
to
this
with
great
zeal,
we
in
the
biden
administration,
we
believe,
will
be
launching
efforts
to
facilitate
the
reshoring
of
american
manufacturing
back
to
the
united
states.
We
know
that
manufacturing
is
has
realized,
that
e-commerce
has
changed
their
business
and
that
they
are
now
going
to
have
to
sort
out
their
logistics
and
supply
chains.
E
And
from
the
think,
tanks
that
there
is
something
underway-
and
I
believe,
as
these
experts
believe
that
21
is
the
pivot
year
and
it
will
see
a
large
change
in
the
economy
in
22,
23
24,
as
companies
sort
this
out,
and
this
is
where
nevada
needs
to
be
competitive.
Many
of
these
decisions
are
spreadsheet
decisions.
It's
not
about
a
personal
relationship.
It's
going
to
be
about
whether
the
numbers
pencil
out
growing
a
manufacturing
sector
creates
strong
supply
chains.
It
creates
medium
to
high
skilled
jobs.
E
It
has
a
deep
vendor
base,
limited
extra
environmental
externalities,
and
you
know,
if
you
think
about
apex
and
some
parts
of
henderson.
You
know
you
don't
end
up
with
issues
of
not
in
my
backyard
business
development
when
companies
are
making
the
decisions
there's
about
10
different
criteria
they
use
for
relocation.
E
A
Not
news
people
already
know
that
and
they've
factored
that
in
and-
and
so
you
know
just
trumpeting-
that
we
don't
have
these
taxes
within.
D
The
within
the
small
community
of
people
who
are
the
gatekeepers
of
economic
development
and
they're
called
site
selectors
that
is
well
known.
It
is
difficult
to
find
a
scale.
I
can
find
some
scales
that
show
we're
extremely
business
friendly.
I
can
find
others
that
show
where
you
know
we're
strong
in
some
areas
and
weak
in
workforce
and
skills,
but
these
are
the
things
that
people
look
at
when
they're
making
these
relocation
decisions
I'll
say
in
the
area
of
technology-
and
I
know
senator
raddy-
and
I
talked
about
this
recently.
D
I
have
found
this
50-state
index
where
it
shows
that
we
rank
26
and-
and
I
thought
well,
this
is
great.
We
rank
26
we're
halfway
home
in
the
technology
and
innovation
field,
but
the
situation
is,
is
we
rank
first
or
second
in
some
categories
and
49th
or
50th
than
others?
And
so
what
it
says
to
me
is
we
have
real
opportunity
in
this
innovation
economy
if
we
can
bring
it
all
together.
D
I
know
that
the
issue
of
tax
abatements
has
been
one
that
has
been
long,
debated
and
and
discussed
in
the
last
few
years,
and
something
that
I
challenged.
My
team
here
to
refresh
all
the
research,
because
I
really
wanted
to
know
what
was
going
on
in
this
space
and
when
I
say,
abatements
and
incentives,
I'm
not
talking
about
the
legislative
agreements
that
were
prepared
for
tesla
panasonic
or
the
parade
faraday
project.
D
I'm
talking
about
the
standard
abatements,
the
plain,
vanilla,
abatements
that
we
have
to
attract
firms
to
the
state
and
they.
E
And
we've
learned
a
couple
things:
first
off
it's
not
ours
are
statutory,
they're,
largely
they're
non-discretionary.
They
have
major
audit
and
review
provisions
and
clawback
provisions.
E
That's
actually
not
necessarily
common
across
the
united
states,
and
I
learned
that
because
gohan
was
operating
a
bit
of
isolation
and
and
if
you
spend
any
time
with
me,
you'll
hear
the
word
partner
more
than
you
want
to
hear
it.
And
so
I
associated
us
with
the
pew
ins,
the
pew
foundation,
the
pew
institute
in
dc,
and
they
have
a
group
of
progressive
thinking,
economic
development
officers
and
they
had
a
compliance
conference
and
they
asked
us
to
speak
on
it
and
melanie
who's
on.
D
Systems
in
in
the
united
states,
frankly,
business
development
tools
we
have
in
this
space
are
sales
and
use
tax,
modified
business,
personal
property,
tax,
abatements
and
specialized
abatements
in
aviation
and
data
centers.
Now
we
have
mentioned
that
we
don't
have
a
corporate
and
personal
income
tax.
I
will
tell
you
in
some
states
they
basically
have
just
said
to
me.
They
say
well,
look.
D
We
can
offer
all
of
these
abatements
in
our
corporate
program,
because
when
the
company's
up
and
running
the
state
gets
repaid
with
the
personal
income,
taxes
that
come
from
the
new
employees-
and
so
like
I
say,
there's
there's
an
advantage
to
closely
held
firms,
but
not
having
a
corporate
or
personal,
not
having
a
corporate
income
tax
is
since
86.
Tax
reform
is
something
that's
useful,
but
it
is.
It
is
not
not
it's.
It's
not
the
whole
decision.
D
We.
I
challenge
the
staff
to
go
back
and
look
at
our
compliance
on
on
all
of
this,
and
these
are
the
standard
abatements
again
316
approve,
which
led
to
225
contractual
agreements.
D
D
We,
when
I
got
here,
I
discovered
that
the
process
that
the
taxation
department,
that
does
the
audits
it
was
a
very
informal
staff
to
staff
arrangement,
and
I
said
no,
no
director
director
young
and
I
are
going
to
sit
down
once
a
quarter
with
my
staff,
jimmy
hum
on
our
compliance
staff
and
with
the
auditors,
and
we're
going
to
go
through.
What's
going
on
with
every
audit
of
every
company,
that's
received
an
abatement,
and
so
we
do
that
once
a
quarter.
D
E
For
abatements
will
reflect
some
of
those
recommendations
from
this
career
civil
service
staff,
on
how
we
can
make
our
audits
even
even
more
more
reliable
we've
had
31
companies
that
were
found
in
non-compliance.
We
brought
them
into
compliance
for
a
recapture
rate
of
84.
E
I
think
those
are
extraordinarily
high
numbers
and
there's
a
few
that
are
outstanding
right
now
and
I
think
that's
what
makes
up
the
difference.
One
of
the
committees
in
the
assembly
asked
for
more
information
on
that
and
we're
getting
that
from
the
department
of
taxation.
Now
I
also
asked
bob
potts
and
his
team
to
do
a
fiscal
analysis
of
what
this
is
meant
to
for
nevada.
What
have
we
actually
abated,
and
this
is
with
the
standard
abatements?
E
This
is
outside
the
tesla
arrangements
outside
the
post
faraday
arrangement
and
we've
abated
339
million
in
these
taxes,
but
because
we
don't
abate
to
zero
in
nevada.
A
We
have
actually
collected
over
the
last
10
years
from
these
companies
that
that
made
a
decision
to
come
here
as
part
of
this
deal
one
and
a
half
billion
dollars
with
a
total
economic
impact
of
55
billion
dollars.
We
have
a
very
comprehensive
report
on
this
that
we've
submitted
for
the
record
and
we
would
always
be
available
to
discuss
any
of
this
in
much
greater
detail.
Only
governor
siselek
challenged
me
when
I
took
this
job
that
his
view
was.
A
If
we're
going
to
offer
tax
abatements,
we
want
these
companies
to
be
larger
than
life
and
to
do
more
for
the
community.
So
we
we
are
actually
now
pressing
the
companies
to
tell
us
more
about
their
corporate
social
responsibility,
programs,
diversity,
hiring
veterans,
local
purchasing.
I
actually
have
a
very
activist.
E
Board
now
that
is
busy
asking
companies.
What
are
you
doing
in
these
these
areas?
The
secretary
of
state
consistently
asks
you
know.
What
are
you
doing
to
help
small
business?
Lieutenant
governor
asks
about
engagement
with
higher
education,
so
it's
a
very
activist
board.
A
Now
and
very
pleased
to
have,
let
me
say
one
thing
about
data
centers
data
centers.
It
took
a
while
for
me
to
get
my
head
around
data
centers.
Is
it
a
factory?
No,
it's
not
a
factory.
What
what
is
it.
D
And
and
really
this
is
a
once
in
a
generation
build
out
of
the
cloud
and
billions
of
dollars
are
going
to
be
spent
on
these
facilities.
The
fact
that
today's
zoom
call
or
zoom
hearing
is
going
to
be
recorded
and
stored
is
going
to
take
substantial
amount
of
space
somewhere
in
in
one
of
these
data,
centers
and
and
so
for
those
of
you
that
might
remember
the
old
dial
telephones
there
used
to
be
used
to
be
this
fortress-like
building
in
every
small
town,
where
all
the
switching
equipment
was
stored.
D
E
A
And
then
other
tools
like
the
opportunity
zone
and
small
business
workforce
which
we'll
turn
to
shortly
and
then
madam
chair
I'd,
be
glad
after
if
you
want
to
do
before
the
bill
or
after
the
bill,
entertain
questions
and
my
entire
staff
has
joined
you
today,
so
that
we
could
answer
any
questions
you
have
and
and
just
if
you
would
like
to
have
a
discussion
on
on
on
ideas.
You
know
this
is
this.
Is
the
moment
you're
all
here?
I'm
here
we're
ready
we're
at
a
point
in
transition
in
history.
A
And
most
sincerely,
I
appreciate
those
of
you
who
have
already
reached
out
to
me
and
there's
multiple
members
of
this
committee
that
have
done
that
with
their
thoughts
and
suggestions.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
director
brown.
We
do
have
some
questions,
we'll
take
questions
on
the
presentation
and
then
get
into
the
bill.
F
So
first
up
is
vice
chair,
ready.
F
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
mr
brown,
for
your
presentation.
Super
helpful,
really
appreciate
having
your
fresh
set
of
eyes
on
the
program
and
doing
the
thorough
review.
The
question
that
I
have
one
of
the
critiques
that
I
often
hear
about
the
tax
abatements
and
I'm
talking
about
the
vanilla
version
as
well.
A
Is
that
we're
giving
abatements
to
companies
that
would
have
moved
here?
Otherwise,
and
so
I'm
wondering
in
your
your
research
and
your
evaluation
if
you've
come
across
any
way
to
really
be
able
to
quantify
or
really
dig
into,
if
that's
truly
the
case
yeah.
Madam
chair,
senator
it's
in
the
parlance
of
economic
development
immature
this
is
called
the
but
four
test
you
know,
but
for
the
abatement
you
know,
would
they
or
not
come
here
and
usually
they've
already
gone
through
a
process
of
winnowing
down
the
states?
A
They
don't
start
with
50
they
hire
a
professional.
Who
brings
it
down
into
a
a
small
number.
Then
they
they
they
look
at
infrastructure.
They
look
at
workforce
and
you
know
now
it's
narrowing
down
even
further
between
one
or
two
states
and
then
ultimately
it
becomes.
Then
they
want
to
know.
You
know
what
kind
of
tax
incentive
is
available
in
nevada.
What
kind
of
tax
incentive
is
available
in
another
state,
and
we
ask
that
you
know
they
have
to
make
certification
in
this
area
on
their
application.
A
F
A
Information
we
had
for
that
occupation
within
that
area
of
nevada
and
melanie
has
done
a
superb
job
of
of
of
getting
them
to
to
pop
up
some
of
those
so
that
everything's
been
fixed
and
we're
starting
to
see
an
average
a
higher
average
on
that,
ultimately,.
F
Then
it
goes
to
the
board
the
company's
got
to
make
come
in
and
make
a
public
a
public
presentation.
This
is
not
something
that's
in
the
19th
hole
of
a
golf
course.
A
D
Enough
for
me
to
take
it
forward
and
I
don't.
D
B
Years,
we
really,
you
know,
tried
to
address
that
question,
and
so
we
ask
all
the
companies
that
we
work
with
how
important
there's
a
whole
scale
of
things
that
we
ask
them.
Questions
on
and
mel
may
have
the
information
the
questionnaire
in
front
of
her,
but
one
of
those
questions
on
there
is
was
whether
you
got
the
abatements
or
not.
B
I
would
assume
that
the
companies
who
apply
always
say
yes,
we
need
the
ebay
well
and
it's
part
of
again
deputy
director
pox
here
for
the
record.
It's
always
the
question
of
sample
bias
right
whenever
you're
doing
survey,
work
right
and
getting
the
bias
out
of
it.
So
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
we've
tried
to
structure
the
survey
to
eliminate
as
much
the
bias
as
possible,
so
you
can
actually
get.
A
To
is
this
really
real?
Is
this
a
deal
and
also
taking
into
account
all
of
the
you
know,
there's
countless
number
of
conversations
we
have
with
these
companies
that
the
rdas
have
with
these
companies
we're
working
with
them
to
find
out
for
sure
you
know.
Is
this
really?
Does
this
really
make
a
difference
to
you,
or
do
you
already
have
your
mind
made
up?
This
is
what
you're
going
to
do
this,
where
you're
going
to
go
or
this
how
you're
going
to
expand?
So.
A
Thank
you.
Senator
key
camper,
hey
man
jared
appreciate
it
director.
I
was
curious
to
go
back
to
your
presentation
on
well
in
a
couple
of
places.
The.
A
If
we
could
go
back
to
your
to
the
your
graphs
with
the
with
the
qi
quadrants
with
mature
stars.
A
Do
you
use
this
and
these
these
these
qi
growth
factors
as
indications
of
where
economic
development
strategies
should
be
placed?
So
if
I
look
at,
for
example,
the
southern
nevada
targeted
industries
on
page
eight,
would
I
be
looking
at
the
larger
sized
emerging
industries
like
health
and
medical
and
logistics
and
operations,
and
I
t
to
try
to
move
them
up
into
the
star
category
and
that's
how
we
identify
places
to
focus
energy?
A
Madam
chair,
senator,
yes
and
I'm
gonna.
Let
director
potts
address
that
directly
deputy
director
pots
again
for
the
record.
This
is
bob
potts
senator
keith
keffer,
so
that
is
location
quotients
over
time.
Okay,
location
quotients
is
just
a
concentration
of
workers.
B
In
an
industry
as
compared
to
the
national
average,
those
charts
are
for
us
to
help
understand.
What's
going
on
with
our
target
sectors,
where
they're
at
the
size
of
the
bubble
refers
to
the
number
of
the
jobs.
Anything
above,
the
horizontal
line
reflects
where
we
have
a
higher
concentration
workers
than
the
national
average.
Anything
below
we
have
a
lower
concentration
on
the
vertical
line.
Anything
to
the
left
means
we're
losing
ground
that
the
x-axis
is
the
time
axis.
B
Okay,
so
this
is
over
that
period
that
10-year
period
in
there,
so
anything
to
the
left
of
the
axis
means
that
we're
losing
ground
anything
to
the
right
means
we're
gaining
ground.
So
that's
why
you
can
actually
label
those
different
quadrants
that
way.
So
it's
a
way
for
us
to
track
the
target
sectors
that
were
part
part
of
goed's
strategic
efforts
and
to
see
once
what's
happening
in
those
sectors
and
whether
we're
gaining
ground.
B
So
what
matters
is
what's
in
that
emerging
box
right
in
that
lower
right
hand
box
to
see
once
okay,
these
are
the
ones
where
we're
still
below
the
national
average,
but
we're
moving
to
the
right,
we're
to
the
right
of
that
vertical
line,
so
we're
actually
moving
up
to
what
director
brown
talked
about
earlier.
Getting
up
into
that
starbucks,
you
know
where
you're,
actually,
you
know
you,
you
have
a
comparative
advantage
in
those
industries.
B
Is
it
yeah,
I
think
that's
I
mean
that's
generally,
how
I
stand
under
how
I've
always
looked
at
ui,
I'm
curious
as
to
whether
there's
more
value
placed
on
industries
that
have
larger
base
employment
or
smaller
bases.
So,
for
example,
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
manufacturing.
A
But
in
southern
nevada
it's
a
smaller
piece,
for
example,
than
health
and
medical.
So
you
know
the
demo
we
looked
at,
for
example,
age
18,
with
the
hochman
index
that
seemed
to
focus
primarily
on
indicators
and
and
manufacturer.
I
guess
manufacturing
related
indicators
and
incentives,
so
I'm
just
just
curious
as
to
if
there
are
within
all
of
the
target
industries,
how
you
select,
which
ones
to
focus
on
well
that
I'll
go
again
deputy
pots
for
the
record.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
you
identify
where
you
have
a
comparative
advantage?
A
Okay
and
part
of
what
this
slide
shows
us
is
okay,
so
where
does
nevada
have
a
competitive
advantage?
Where
are
we
seeing
growth
over
the
last
10
years?
Where
should
we
refocus
our
efforts
and
and
and
and
retool
ourselves
to
push
into
those
areas?
So
what's
in
that
emerging
sector,
what
shows
up
is
manufacturing
technology,
healthcare,
logistics
and
operations,
for
instance,
it
helps
us
narrow
those
down,
so
we
can
put
more
effort
into
those.
A
If
you
look
at
the
job
high
as
a
whole,
you
know
we
want
our
number
of
jobs
to
grow,
not
decrease
right,
but
you
want
to
change
the
slices
of
those
pies
right,
and
so,
if
you
move
more
folks,
if
one
of
the
bubbles
gets
smaller,
you
have,
the
others
would
naturally
have
to
get
bigger.
What
you
want
to
do
is
you
want
to
get
bigger
and
you
want
to
get
bigger
in
industries
that
are
your
target
sectors.
A
If
you
do
your
sector
analysis,
you're,
focusing
on
in
industries
that
actually
grow
your
economy
as
a
whole,
not
only
in
the
job
field,
but
also
as
far
as
bringing
money
into
the
economy,
so
the
flow
of
money
runs
back
into
the
state
and
its
regions.
Okay,
so
you
think
about
all
the
goods
and
services
that
we
produce
and
the
whole
goal
is
to
produce
those
where
what
we
do
here
is
sold
to
customers
outside
the
region,
and
those
monies
flow
in
manufacturing
is
a
great
example
of
that.
B
Technology
can
be
too.
Healthcare
is
often
considered
an
industry
that
supports
people
that
are
already
here,
but
if
you
don't
have
good
health
care,
good
luck
getting
the
other
ones.
Okay.
So
it's
a
very
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
that
go
on
here,
but
there's
theory
and
reason
behind
all
of
them.
A
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
and
so
on
page
18,
when
it
came
to
the
hockman
index.
If
we
were
supposed
to
look
at
increasing
that
share
of
the
pie
for
manufacturing,
particularly
in
southern
nevada,
where
we
haven't
had
as
much
success.
C
The
decade
at
the
previous
line,
page
18,
shows
that
our
competitive
landscape
in
the
west
indicates.
C
Possibly
these
incentives,
the
the
number
of
incentive
programs
available-
is
significantly
less
than
our
competitors,
as
well
as
the
exemption
on
sales
tax
on
manufacturing
machinery.
Those
sort
of
two
of
the
big
driving
factors
for
manufacturing,
and
would
you
suggest
changing
those
if
you
want
to
grow
that
piece
of
buy
for
southern.
C
Michael
brown,
for
the
record-
yes,
many
states
are
able
to
take
their
manufacturing
the
sales
tax
for
manufacturing
equipment
to
zero.
I
think
on
one
of
those
maps,
we
show
that
this
there
are
states
that
were
largely
outside
the
industrial
revolution
that
are
still
taxing
manufacturing
equipment.
It's
my
understanding
that
ours
is
embedded
because
of
constitutional
provisions
that
were
created
when
the
sales
tax
was
established
in
the
1950s,
so
for
manufacturers
and
mike
kuzmierski
can
speak
very
eloquently.
A
To
this
is
that
is
that
the
manufacturing,
the
abatement
incentive,
becomes
very
important
for
manufacturers
to
offset
what
will
be
the
sales
tax
on
the
on
the
fiscal
side,
though,
because
we
actually
do
have
that
there
will
be
a
collection
of
revenue
to
the
state.
So
so,
if
changes
that
we've
made
in
the
past,
like
not
exempting
the
the
lsst
portion
coming
in,
is
that
having.
C
My
apologies,
my
apologies
bob
potts
again
for
the
record.
Well
yeah.
It
does
make
a
difference
right,
but
but
it's
all
on
the
margin.
I
think
everything
has
to
be
taken
in
context.
There's
a
lot
of
different
things.
I
mean
michael
talked
a
little
bit
earlier
on
one
of
the
slides
about
the
top
10
site.
Selector
lists
right
we're
going
to
talk
here
a
little
bit
about
the
win
program.
C
We
have
very
targeted
most
most
a
lot
or
not
most,
but
many
of
the
projects
that
we
dealt
with
there
was
specifically
the
manufacturing
that
goes
back
to
workforce
needs,
but
the
abatement
side
is
in
there
and
and
it
there
are,
there
are
times
when
on
the
margin
it
does
make
a
difference.
C
C
Okay,
thank
you
senator
dennis,
I
think
actually
senator
keith
kiffer
just
asked.
I
I
was
going
to
ask
on
page
18.
I
guess
I
could
ask
a
follow-up
on
page
18,
where
we're
looking
at
our
neighbors
we're
talking
about
at
least
on
this
particular
measure.
The
pacman
index
did
you.
You
mentioned
that
utah
is
utah.
The
top
one
in
the
country.
C
Yeah
utah
has
the
highest
diversity.
Diversification
in
the
in
the
nation,
utah
made
decisions.
You
know.
Economic
development,
like
I
say,
is
not
something
that
happened
overnight.
Utah
made
decisions
in
the
1980s
that
set
them
on
a
course
to
diversify
their
economy.
They
were
farming,
a
copper
mining
state
that
was
subject
to
big
swings.
A
In
the
in
the
economy,
and
they
made
some
fundamental
decisions
and
and
over
the
course
of
time
it
says
it's
really
they've
created
a
very
diverse
and
successful
economy.
So,
but
what
about
like
arizona?
Because
arizona's?
Not
that
far
behind
I
mean,
did
they
do
a
similar
thing?
A
Arizona
has
arizona,
is
an
aggressive
company.
I've
had
a
staff
member-
and
we
haven't
finished
this
yet,
but
we're
actually
doing
a
comparative
study
of
nevada
with
colorado,
arizona
and
utah
so
that
we
fully
understand
our
competitive
arrangement
situation
with
those
states.
A
Okay,
yeah.
I
think
that
would
be
interesting
to
see
what,
if
there's
something
we
can
learn
from
there,
that
you
know
they
have
a
different
revenue
structure
also
than
we
do.
But
you
know
I
know
a
lot
of.
We
need
to
figure
out
that
that
diversity
piece,
because
that
would
help
us
to
avoid
those
swings
that
we
keep
having
every
time
the
economy
goes
bad,
so
yeah,
michael
brown,
for
the
record.
A
Senator
madam
chair,
I
would
say
that
we
arizona
is
a
difficult
state
for
us
sometimes
to
understand,
because
the
government
structure
is
quite
different
than
ours
and
so.
C
We're
trying
to
fully
understand
arizona,
colorado
and
utah
are
very
good
comparables,
but
now
that
I
have
this
old
coalition
of
about
you
know
dozen
economic
development
directors.
You
know
my
counterpart
in
maine
who's,
part
of
this
group,
maine's
number
one
sector
was
tourism,
21
million
visitors
a
year
to
maine
and
and
they've
been
hit
hard
and
and
her
economic
development
plan
for
the
future
looks
a
lot
like
ours.
How
do
they
get
advanced
manufacturing
technology
healthcare
in
into
the
into
those
areas
where
we
have?
C
This
advantage
is,
if
you
look
at
those
borders,
there
are
nations
of
the
world
that
would
like
to
have
the
geographic
position
that
nevada
has.
I
will
say
this.
Having
lived
briefly
in
utah
is
utah
has
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
untangling
its
infrastructure
and
making
itself
ready
for
growth
to
the
point.
As,
as
you
probably
know,
the
utah
prison
used
to
sit
at.
A
Thanksgiving
point
between
salt
lake
and
provo
and
they've
now
torn
down
that
prison
building
new
prison
by
the
airport.
I
guess
probably
finished
prison
she'd
have
to
put
the
prisoner
somewhere
and
and
they're
redeveloping
all
that
for
silicon
slopes,
so
yeah.
I
it's
just
interesting
to
see
that,
and-
and
you
mentioned
this,
but
you
know
everybody
knows-
we
have
a
good
tax
structure
right,
not
what
you
said.
A
Yes,
yes,
it's
well
known,
and
what
we've
got
to
do
now
is
amplify
our
opportunities
to
be
in
this
time
zone
to
be
proximate
to
california
and
the
pacific
rim
and
and
with
a
robust.
C
Strong
workforce
of
of
people
willing
to
to
work
yeah,
so
what
I
learned
from
that
was
that,
even
though
they
know
we
have
this
low
tax
structure,.
A
That
that
that
isn't
just
enough
that
for
people
to
flock
here
and
for
us
to
diversify,
we've
got
to
do
some
other
things
yeah
for
certain
kind
of
companies
for
a
closely
held
company.
You
know
where
it
would
come
on
to
your
personal
return
or
something,
but
for
a
large
multinational
corporation.
Since
86
tax
reform,
they've
managed
their
way
around
most
state.
D
Go
ahead.
Okay,
I
would
like
to
add
to
senator.
F
F
Of
questions
I'm
kind
of
going
to
work
backwards
during
the
pandemic.
I
got
like
this
awesome
opportunity
to
interview
director,
larry
kublow
and
the
conversation
that
we
had.
F
F
Into
the
nevada
economy,
since
the
start
of
the
pandemic
and.
E
B
A
Relief
measures
with
small
business,
we
realized
how
much
just
personal
support
they
needed
treasure
and
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
our
staffs
have
working
with
individual
small
businesses.
I
came
away
realizing
that
small
businesses
are
busy
running
a
small
business.
You
know
they
need
as
much
help
as
they
can.
A
We
are
standing
ready
to
help
roll
out
the
shuttered
venue
program,
which
would
help
in
arts
and
culture.
At
that
point,
you
know
we
have
got
to
do
everything
we
can,
like.
I
say
to
stand
up
our
hospitality
economy
and
I
I
was.
I
was
really
amazed
at
the
number
of
small
businesses
that
are
in
support
of
our
convention.
A
A
A
So
thank
you
for
that,
because
I
asked
this
question
because
I
have
this
weird
economic
philosophy
that,
although
I
like
federal
investment,
I
also
like
states
to
be
able
to
stand
on
their
own
two
feet.
And
so
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
a
conversation
on
taking
the
abatements
that
we
have-
and
maybe
you
know
going
through
them
and
retailering
them
to
maybe
fit
the
small
business
needs
versus.
A
Well,
I
won't
say
versus,
but
to
have
like
a
a
dual
activity
versus
the
larger
firm
actually
trying
to
situate
our
abatement
program
so
that
it
benefits
small.
G
G
I
just
want
to
know
if
there's
any
conversation
there.
Madam
chair,
it's
a
very
good
point
and
there's
a
lot
of
literature
right
now
out
there
on
this
on,
what's
happening
in
small
business
and
the
struggles
they're
going
to
have,
and
it's
very
real,
particularly
with
e-commerce,
changing
purchasing
patterns
and
what
I've
been
doing.
Is
I've
been
looking
across
different
states
to
see
what
what
programs
they
might
have
underway
in
this
area,
and
most
of
them
are
still
right
now
trying
to
feel
their
way
through
it?
G
What
I
have
I
have
not
found
states
that
have
been
able
to
deploy
abatements
and
incentives,
small
businesses-
I
don't
know
why
that
is-
and
it
may
be,
because
those
abatements
and
incentives
would
many
small
businesses
are
filing
as
a
schedule
c
on
their
personal
tax
return,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
that
that
there's
a
way
for
states
to
deploy
into
that
area.
We
do
have
programs
for
expansion
of
businesses
and
and
to
help
retain
what
I
have
seen
in
some
of
the
states.
G
But
these
are
states
with
the
more
robust
fiscal
conditions
is
I've
seen
them
stand
up
permanent
grant
programs
to
help
small
business
in
these
areas.
I've
seen
a
few
where
they've
had
targeted
areas
for
minority
businesses,
I've
seen
in
colorado.
They
have
a
program
for
the
creative
arts,
but
those
states
also
might
have
a
more
robust
fiscal
resources
than
than
I'm
afraid
we
have
available
to
us.
It
is
ongoing
work
that
I'm
doing
right
now
and
and
looking
for
options.
G
I
spoke
at
the
urban
chambers
conference
last
week
and
I
I
was
challenged
by
the
leadership
and
they
said
so
we're
bringing
these
companies
to
nevada.
G
How
can
we
match
you,
small
businesses
in
the
state,
and
so
conceptually?
These
are
some
of
the
ideas
I
have
on
my
desk
right
now
that,
as
we
come
out
of
the
relief
program,
I
hope
to
turn
creative
attention
to
that.
You
you
raised
an
issue,
though
that
is,
is
national
in
scope
yeah,
I
I
just
I
just
feel
like
our
abatements
are
a
statutory
construct,
which
means
that
we
could
take
creative
thought
to
redirect
them
and
think
through
the
application
of
them
to
our
smaller
businesses.
G
But
you
know
that's
just
my
framework:
yeah
yeah
ma'am
governor
had
a
round
table
with
small
businesses
and
it's
it
is
just
something
we're
continuing
to
discuss
and,
like
I
say,
I'm
looking
at
other
states
and
most
most
are
facing
the
same
challenge
and
and
right
now,
they're
focused
on
on
immediate
relief.
G
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
So
I
know
senator
gant,
sivers
gancer
has
a
question.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
First,
I
want
to
thank
director
brown
and
his
staff
bob
and
the
staff
for
all
the
work
that
they've
been
doing
because
it's
been,
it's
been
really
difficult
and
you
provided
us
a
wealth
of
information
today.
So
I'm
grateful
for
that.
G
You
know
in
looking
at
we've,
had
some
discussions
about
the
hatchman
index
and
the
diversification,
and
I
think
that's
really
important
that
we
may
want
to
look
at
or
maybe
it's
a
question
should
we
be
looking
at
setting
goals
for
how
we're
going
to
diversify
like
percentage-wise,
when
I
looked
at
your
bubble
charts
it
talked
about
sort
of
where
our
base
is
now
and
where
potentially
we
can
grow,
but
I
don't
does
it
take
into
account
wages,
because
I
think
it's
more
about
the
number
of
jobs
and
potential
growth,
but
on
a
relative
basis,
but
not
necessarily
the
wages,
because
when
you
look
at
advanced
manufacturing,
you
look
at
healthcare
you're
going
to
find
larger
or
higher
wages
than
logistics.
G
So
I
think
when
we
start
looking
at
where
we
want
to
or
how
we
want
to
diversify,
it's
not
only
the
sectors.
What
is
the
sectors,
but
it's
what
do
those
sectors
pay
and
that
would
be
wages
and
benefits
yeah,
and
I
would
encourage
you
if
you
ever
have
time
to
watch
a
goed
meeting.
This
is
something
the
governor
has
a
great
personal.
B
Passion
on
and
and
and
I'll
commend
my
staff
and
the
rdas
because
they.
G
They
have
basically
told
some
of
these
companies.
You
know
this
is
not
gonna
go
down.
You
better
see
what
you
can
do
to
fix
this
before
we
take
it
forward,
absolutely
great
family,
sustaining
jobs.
I
think
wages
are
important
and
you
know,
but
I
was
looking
at
your
annual
report
on
page
three
and
we've.
G
It
looks
at
capital,
investment
and
the
new
jobs
and
the
average
wage,
and
we
actually
peaked
out,
probably
between
2014
and
2017,
and
what
I
thought
was
interesting
was
it
was
the
highest
number
of
jobs,
but
it
was
also
the
highest
average
wage.
G
So
we
were
doing
you
know
something
right,
because
I
think
that
we
had
a
time
as
the
economy
became
more
robust.
The
question
of
like
incentives
and
abatements
became
more
questionable,
but
when
you
look
at
the
net
net
tax
that
we
received,
you
know
the,
but
for
we
really
were
doing
well,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
you've
you've
been
working
on
the
state
plan
because
I
think
the
state
plan
and
workforce
development
are
are
connected
right.
G
So
when
I
looked
at
page
20
of
your
your
powerpoint
today,
we've
got
the
list
of
what
matters
most
having
the
strategic
plan
and
identifying
the
sectors
which
is
where
you're
going
now
is
critical.
G
So
we
can
identify
what
we
want
to
do
on
the
workforce
side,
and
so
what
I'm
certainly
around
to
is,
I
think,
I
think,
we're
back
on
track
or
we're
going
the
right
direction,
but
it
may
be
time
to
because
we
have
so
much
set
in
statute
to
look
at
incentives
and
abatements
and
the
programs
that
we
have-
and
you
would
just
mention
that
you're
doing
a
comparative
study
between
colorado,
arizona
and
utah,
and
that
type
of
information
I
think,
is
critical,
because
this
is
extremely
complex.
G
You
know:
where
do
you?
How
do
you
diversify?
Where
do
you
diversify
what
type
types
of
jobs,
what
types
of
salaries?
What
actually
does
incentivize?
I
appreciate
that
you're
doing
surveys
now,
I
think
that's
really
important.
Would
they
have
come
if
not
for
the
abatements
and
incentives
and
so
forth,
and
getting
that
feedback
is
really
important.
So
I
I
appreciate
your
work.
G
I
I
just
think
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done
to
refine
how
we're
addressing
this
and
and
absolutely
agree
that
you're
on
the
right
track,
but
I
think
I
think
we
probably
need
to
sort
of
look
at
everything.
That's
set
in
statute
to
see
what's
most
effective
and
I
think
we've
learned
a
lot
too
right
so
part
part
of
this
is
we've
spent
10
years
learning
more
about
our
successes
and
maybe
what
we
could
do
better
well,
thank
you,
senator
and
madam
chair.
Also
cross-state
comparisons
can
sometimes
be
hazardous.
G
Ruskin
on
your
staff
has
coached
me
that
you
know
what
the
words
in
our
statute
the
words
in
their
statute.
They
may
be
the
same
word,
but
it
may
be
different
meanings,
and
so,
as
we
drill
down
deeper
into
those
states,
you
know
we're
we're
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
comparing
an
apple
with
an
apple
in
that
area.
G
I
will
also
say
that
our
system
was
built,
the
utah
system
it
was
built
with
one
centralized,
go
at
and
one
non-profit
in
support
of
that,
and
because
most
of
utah
sits
along
the
wasatch
front
between
ogden
and
and
provo.
Our
system
was
built
regionally
for
the
three
states
in
nevada,
so
we
have
seven
rdas
out
there,
and
so
each
one
has
unique,
and
so
a
lot
of
our
what
bob
and
I
and
chris
are
trying
to
do
is
big
picture.
How
do
we
position
nevada?
How
do
we
troubleshoot?
G
How
do
we
fix
issues?
What
you're
not
seeing
today
is
a
lot
of
the
more
detailed
finer
implementation
work
that
mike
kosmerski
and
and
jonas
peterson,
and
and
rob
hooper
and
sheldon
mod
are
doing
and
and
paul
and
all
those
folks
are
doing
out
in
their
regions.
You're
not
seeing
that
today,
but
it
it
definitely
exists.
G
Yeah.
I
I
I
agree
with
you.
The
regional
development
authorities
and
the
work
they're
doing
is
critical.
You
know
one
of
the
most
important
pages.
I
think
we
probably
have
today
that
demonstrates
the
importance
of
abatement
programs
is
page
25,
where
you
look
at
the
abatements
of
about
340
million,
but
the
tax
net
tax
revenue
over
the
same
period,
the
same
10
per
period,
is
1.5
billion,
and
10-year
economic
impact
is
55
billion.
So
so
there's
true
value
here
and
I
think
we've
been
pretty.
It
sounds
like
given
the
research
that
you've
done.
G
G
But
I
do
think
this
demonstrates
importance
and
I
would
propose
that
we
probably
need
to
look
at
what
we
have
in
statute
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
be
on
track
because
our
environment
is
absolutely
changing
and
the
changes
have
accelerated
with
this
pandemic.
Thank
you,
yeah.
Thank
you.
Senator
and
madam
chair
roland
stevens,
who
consults
with
us
and
helps
us
with
this,
was
at
our
last
go
at
moore
meeting,
but
we
did
the
we
did
the
business
meeting
first
and
he
presented
last.
G
So
he
got
to
hear
all
the
presentations
he's
got
a
big
international
50
state
perspective,
and
he
said
he
said
there
are
states
that
would
crawl
over
ground
glass
broken
glass
to
have
the
list
of
applications
that
he
saw
approved
that
day,
and
you
know
I'm
born
in
ohio.
I
still
still
connected
to
ohio,
I'm
still
connecting
virginia,
and
you
know
I
I
can
tell
you
my
friends
in
ohio
have
said
you
know
if
you
don't
want
that,
send
it
send
us
we'll,
take
it
all
right.
B
Right
and
and
again,
we've
had
great
work
out
in
the
rdas
good
good
structure,
which
was
redone
in
2011
and
then.
E
Also
the
work
at
the
the
regional
level,
so
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
have
this
wonderfully
bright
staff
and
I
don't
know
if
I've
missed
anything,
but
I
I
if
we
were
in
a
hearing
room,
I'd,
be
turning
to
them
and
saying:
is
there
anything
we
need
to
still
say
if
you
would
indulge
me,
I
would
just
ask
whether
bob
or
chris
sanchez
have
anything
that
needs
to
be.
E
G
Melanie
sheldon
for
the
record
senator
sivas
ganza.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
record
and
for
bringing
up
the
wages.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
in
statute.
There
is
a
wage
criteria
and
companies
not
meeting
that
wage
criteria
are
not
eligible
to
apply
for
abatements,
that
wage
criteria
is
set
every
year
by
dita
and
and
they
they.
E
Will
do
a
statewide
average
wage?
It
has
continually
been
growing
since
2011
and
what
way-
and
we
said
that
is
quite
as
one
of
the
actual
linchpin
criteria.
So,
first
and
foremost,
the
company
must
at
least
meet
that
that
statewide
average
wage
criteria
is
set
by
data
on
the
first
of
july
every
year
and
then
from
there
their
capital,
investment
and
they're
hiring
their
job
creation.
G
Yeah,
I
know
so
thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
highlighting
that
and
I
I
understand
that
we
have
pretty
strict
or
we
do
have
standards
in
statute.
I
think
there
are.
A
number
of
people
would
probably
suggest
that
we
could
raise
that.
You
know
that
it
isn't
just
meeting
your
average
wage
and
even
though
that
gets
reset
that
maybe
it's
a
1.2
or
something
like
that,
because
there's
a
difference
between
the
wages,
make
a
difference
and
and
so
do
the
benefits.
G
So
we
want
to
have
the
best
jobs
that
we
can
for
nevadans,
and
we
recognizing
that
that's
going
to
take
some
investment
in
workforce
development
and
so
forth.
You
know
sort
of
the
chicken
and
the
egg.
Are
we
going
to
get
the
highest
paying
jobs
here?
If
we
don't
have
the
the
best
educated
workforce?
And
so
we
need
to
work.
E
On
both
ends,
so
thank
you
absolutely.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
If
I
may
go
ahead,
chris
sanchez
for
the
record,
thank
you
director.
The
only
thing
I
would
add
is
that
director
brown
has
talked
a
bit
about
this
in
the
past
and
we're
focusing
on
it,
and
that
is
infrastructure
and
with
the
changing
environment
that
we're
experiencing
post
code
understanding
our
assets
in
our
community.
G
Up,
it's
like
portions
of
the
sentence
is
not
coming
in
all
right,
michael
brown,
madam
chair,
I
think
I
know
where
chris
is
going.
Is
it
in
southern
nevada,
particularly,
you
know.
We
need
to
untangle
some
infrastructure
issues
with
respect
to
transportation
and
land
so
that,
as
these
inquiries
are
coming
to
us,
we
make
sure
we
have.
B
C
Right
now,
but
longer
term,
you
know
that
community,
just
as
reno,
did
needs
to
prioritize
some
of
the
basics
of
economic
development
of
land
and
power
and
water
and
industrial
park,
and
and
we
actually
had
a
we've
got
a
number
of
people
working
on
this
chris
is
leading
a
little
temporary
task
force
to
figure
out
what
knots
need
untangled,
and
this
morning
I
spoke
at
naom
and
discussed
some
of
the
issues
in
there.
C
Thank
you
for
that
members.
Any
additional
questions,
if
not
I'm
going
to
move
to
the
bill.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
stacy.
Bostwick
leads.
The
wind
program
has
been
a
valued
member
of
our
team.
I.
G
Will
tell
you
that
I
I've
got
some
expertise
in
a
lot
of
areas
and
workforce
is
probably
the
area
where
I
have
deficiencies
and
so
she'll
be
presented
in
full
today
and
bob
potts
will
be
in
support.
I
will
also
say
that
pre-pandemic
she
she's
been
working
on
some
larger
projects
that
I
hope
when
we
get
into
the
post-pandemic
economy,
she'll
be
able
to
return
to
and
and
and
how
we
can
move
nevada
forward
in
this
area.
G
I
think
she's
got
a
good
track
record
and
she'll
discuss
the
need
for
this
legislation,
mindful
of
course
that
you
know
our
portion
of
the
workforce
agenda
in
the
state
is
the
engagement
directly
with
business
so
with
that
I'll
turn
it
to
stacy.
G
So
we
will
close
the
presentation
and
open
up
the
hearing
on
sv
24.
G
Thank
you,
chairwoman,
neil
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
about
sb
senate
bill.
24
just
wanted
to
echo
what
director
brown
mentioned,
that
we
really
look
forward
to.
C
The
conversation
and
discussion
on
this
this
program
that
we've
had
in-house
for
about
a
little
over
four
to
five
years
for
the
record.
My
name
is
stacey
bostrick
and
I'm
the
director
of
workforce
development
at
the
governor's
office
of
economic
development
or
go
and
you'll
hear
that
acronym.
Of
course,
I'm
here
today.
I
have
a
couple
colleagues,
well
actually
a
lot,
but
you'll
probably
hear
mostly
from
myself.
C
Pieces
there's
a
little
bit
of
background.
The
workforce,
innovations
or
or
for
new
nevada
or
win
was
established
in
2015.
It
was
ab1
substantially
funded
in
2016
and
2017
for
the
first
time
and
is
a
tool,
that's
managed
by
the
governor's
office
here
by
economic
development.
C
It's
really
designed
to
address
business
needs
and
to
echo
kind
of
that
space
we
kind
of
have
a
narrow
focus
in
there.
We
really
are
looking
at
how
we
can
help
accelerate
creation,
customization
or
expansion
of
workforce
training
programs
to
try
and
put
it
simply
win
is
in
this
space
and
it
was
conceived
to
catalyze
new
workforce
training
programs
that
are
developing
that
talent
pipeline
needed
by
industry
and
creating
these
opportunities
for
individuals
to
get
the
skills
needed
for
those
jobs.
C
G
And
in
part,
to
respond
to
the
new
headquarters
for
haas
and
henderson,
that's
a
really
great
example
of
how
win
works
and,
and
the
purpose
and
impact
of
win.
Obviously
we're
trying
to
impact
the
limited
supply
right,
changing
the
course
they're.
Increasing
the
supply
for
skilled
workers
and
obtaining
ensuring
people
can
have
the
skills
necessary
for
those
job
opportunities
and
thousands
in
this
case-
and
you
know,
we
hope
to
be
able
to
affect
positive
change
in
that
space
in
both
of
those
it's
a
real
win-win
proposition.
G
This
this
slide,
obviously,
is
just
really
big
picture,
but
one
to
kind
of
highlight
since
2016
substantially
when
we've
gotten
funding
goed's.
B
Business
partners
throughout
the
state
to
date,
we
look
at
kind
of
our
successes
here.
Nearly
2
000
nevadans
have
been
able
to
access,
19,
new
or
expanded
programs
that
received
win
investments
in
high
skill
and
highway
sectors,
including
advanced
manufacturing,
health
care,
technology,
mining
and
logistics
and
operations.
B
We
do
that
primarily
in
partnership
from
I
guess
our
activities
within
goed
with
our
partners
with
rda
and,
of
course,
local
industry.
B
Representatives
big
picture
sb
24
is
ultimately
in.
In
our
view,
administrative
updates,
based
on
our
experience.
G
I've
been
working
in
workforce
with
goed
for
about
two
and
a
half
years
and
so
kind
of
with
those
four
or
five
years
of
experience.
G
G
Far,
I
wanted
to
go
through
the
bill.
The
the
items
that
we'll
go
through
are
in
chronological
order,
if
that's
okay,
just
to
kind
of
help
track
through,
and
you
know,
if
there's
any
preference
in
changing
that,
then
please,
please
do.
Let
me
know
we'll
try
and
keep
a
high
level
that's
good
to
go
through
the
builds
fairly
short,
but
yeah
go
through
section
by
section
and
break
it
down.
G
Thank
you,
cheerio
I'll.
Do
that.
So
in
looking
at
the
bill
section,
one
items,
two
d
through
g,
basically
outline
a
needs
assessment.
It's
an
exercise
that
we
want
to
do
to
make
sure
that
go.
It
is
kind
of
ensuring
that
we're
laser
focused
on
those
gaps
and
that
in
that
way,
we
complement
the
workforce
system.
G
B
B
B
What's
working
well
and
what's
not,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
industry
is
partnering
with
us
and
sharing
that
data,
which
is
helpful
to
us
in
a
similar
vein
item,
4b
facilitates
some
of
the
due
diligence
that
we
think
is
important,
so
that
we
can
ensure
our
partnerships
are
with
compliant
quality
employers
in
nevada.
G
Section
also,
I
mean,
through
this
presentation,
we're
looking
to
amend
some
of
the
language.
That's
in
that
space
to
conform,
given
the
state
of
our
economy
of
businesses.
We
wanted
to
be
real
clear
that
this
isn't
a
punitive
approach,
but
we
want
to
take
a
look
at
in
situations
where
there
were
furloughs
or
layoffs
in
an
occupational
area
that
we
are
still
making
a
prudent
investment
with
that
employer
and
and
that
things
are
still
on
the
up
and
up.
G
G
G
Lastly,
in
that
area,
priority
we
want
to
make
sure
is
given
to
programs
of
compressed
curriculum.
I
think
time
is
always
of
the
essence
in
our
workforce,
especially
when
individuals
are
making
transitions,
but
that's
especially
important
right
now.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
focusing
on
accelerated
pathways
to
employment,
continuing
in
section
2
item
7
a
through
h
and
item
8,
provide
a
few
adjustments
to
statutory
allowances
for
funding.
G
We
also
you
have
some
language
in
here
where
we're
seeking
to
clarify
that,
in
the
event,
the
equipment
is
not
needed
or
retained
by
a
program
that
we
can
redeploy
that
to
another
program
within
the
states
to
ensure
that
investment
can
continue
in
workforce
development.
G
This
last
section
is
the
one
probably
we'll
we'll
have
the
most
discussion
on,
and
the
intent
for
goed
was
to
kind
of
was
to
look
at
changing
language
in
the
statute
to
enable
a
non-reversion.
So
the
current
statute
requires
us
to
revert
at
the
end
of
the
biennium.
So
the
language
here
at
this
time
is
establishing
a
new
account
with
interest
that
won't
revert
to
the
general
fund
and
any
any
unexpended
appropriations
made
to
the
account
must
be
credited.
G
It
means
that
does
not
revert
session
law
could
override
this,
though,
as
the
statute
states,
that
bills
must
be
paid
through
a
speed
system
and
not
from
an
outside
bank,
account
we're
looking
at
administrative
flexibility
in
this
space
so
that
the
investments
you
awaken
that
we're
making
have
continuity.
G
So
we
want
to
kind
of
marry
those
pieces
together
so
that
we
can.
We
can
make
investments
where
we're
seeing
that
they
need
to.
G
Obviously
that
has
an
impact
and
we'd
like
to
discuss
that
and
and
we're
open
to
that
as
well.
So
those
are
kind
of
the
formal
comments
that
we
wanted.
B
To
make
about
the
the
statute,
changes
and
appreciate
your
time
and
being
able
to
share
those,
and
we
welcome
any
questions
of
course,
at
this
time,
hey.
Thank
you
for
that
presentation.
B
I
believe
we
have
a
question
from
senator
keith
keffer,
hey
man,
I'm
sure
I've
got
a
few,
the
section
on
page
three
of
the
bill
section,
one
subsection,
two,
the
new
paragraph
I
it
looks
to
me
in
that
last
the
last
few
words
of
that
this
is
a
proposed
plan
for
the
provisional
proposed
program
of
workforce
recruitment
assessment
training
on
a
statewide
basis.
B
Stacy
boston
for
the
record,
no,
obviously,
in
this
day
and
age,
when
we're
talking
about
technology
and
virtual
learning,
there's
a
lot
of
programs
that
are
and
where
there
are,
we
want
to
make
sure
those
investments
are
shared
within
the
state
that
they're
not
necessarily
geographically
isolated,
but
that
obviously
can't
apply
to
every
every
program.
B
The
way
I
read
that
it
says
that
a
program
has
to
be
statewide,
so
we
might
just
want
to
look
at
during
that.
The
let's
see
on
page
and
then
I'm
sorry
in
section
three
of
the
bill
that
talks
specifically
to
a
business
that
is
applying
for
win
funds,
looks
like
this.
Amendment
says
that
they
can
only
train
existing
employees
and
they
can't
use
it
to
train
new
employees.
Is
that
your
intent,
stacey
bostwick
for
the
record,
there's
actually
really
two
distinct
parts
I
mean,
and
they
kind
of
mirror
each
other.
B
There's
kind
of
one
set
of
language
within
statute.
That
really
kind
of
looks
at
big
picture
training,
probably
targets
more
of
the
the
pipeline,
and
maybe
the
newly
hired
folks
and
kind
of
partnership
and
there's
a
part
of
the
bill
that
does
allow
for
incumbents,
and
so
we
always
try
to
mirror
the
language
in
both
places.
So
if
we
apply
one
standard
to
one
side
of
the
statute,
we
apply
it
to
the
other
side.
So
there
is
no
intent
to
only
do
incumbent.
B
We
have
the
flexibility
the
way
the
statute
is
written
to
do
both
if
that's
what's
needed,
for
a
given
project
yeah.
I
think
I
think
section
two
might
be
a
little
confusing
to
that
end,
because
it
says
a
person
who
operates
a
business
or
will
operate
a
business
and
apply
it
to
the
office
for
approval
of
a
program
of
workforce
training
for
incumbent
employees.
If
they
will
operate
a
business,
they
probably
they
may
not
have
any
incumbent
employees.
So
I
just
you
know,
I
think.
G
Clarity
on
that
might
then,
when
it
comes
to
the
general
fund
reversion,
I
don't
necessarily
have
any
issues
with
that.
I
mean
recognizing
money.
Committees
might
always
just
not
approve
you
appropriate
you
any
more
money.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
money,
carry
it.
G
Forward
stacey
bosch
for
the
record,
I'm
I'm
not
sure
if
there
was
a
question
in
there,
but
I
recognize
that
and-
and
I
am
I
think-
that
we're
open
to
that
discussion-
I
think,
as
you
all
know,
we
have
to
submit
a
bioneer
report
every
two
years
and
so,
however,
that
accounting
needs
to
look.
You
know
we're
we're
open
to
that.
G
Thank
you
for
that.
I
believe
senator
sievers
ganzard.
Is
that
your
hand
up?
It
is
thank
you.
Okay.
In
looking
at
section
three,
you
there's
a
note
about
talking.
I
guess
it
would
be
section
three,
two
d:
the
initial
plan
for
wage
increases
for
employees
who
successfully
complete
the
program
when,
when
you
introduced,
when
you
talked
about
the
average
wage,
do
you
survey
the
current
wage
of
someone
before
they
enter
the
program
and
then,
after
they
exit
the
program,
because
this
is
for
the
incumbent
piece.
G
G
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Stacey
bostwick
for
the
record.
We
haven't
actually
used
this
part
of
the
statute
to
do
a
project.
We
wanted
just
to
make
sure
that
we
had,
I
guess,
the
protection
and
the
expectation
in
statute.
So
I
appreciate
the
suggestion
and
I'll
be
writing
that
down,
because
I
think
that's
excellent
and
we
always
we
collect
performance
information
on
the
back
end
for
all
of
our
projects
and
part
of
that
is
wages.
But
just
through
nature
of
some
of
our
projects
that
are
have
been
a
little
bit
longer
term.
G
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
been
able
to
capture
those
promotions,
and
so,
as
a
probably
our
shining
example,
we
had
an
individual
who
worked
tmcc,
who
was
unemployed
and
was
able
to
get
a
job
a
tesla
as
a
result
of
going
through
the
manufacturing
program.
There
started
out
at
18
an
hour
and
was
since
promoting
is
making
fifty
dollars
an
hour
and
that
and
in
that
short
time
frame,
and
so
we
really
want
to
capture
those
pieces.
G
So
we
were,
we
already
were
seeing
that
as
a
trend,
but
I
like
formalizing
that
for
incumbent
worker.
Thank
you
for
the
suggestion
yeah.
I
would
agree
with
you.
I
think
that
data
is
really
important
and
for
all
comers,
not
ones
that
are
just
moving
within
the
same
business,
but
also
for
those
who
either
haven't
been
employed
or
have
been
employed
at
a
low
wage
in
a
low
wage
job
and
now
have
the
opportunity
to
have
a
much
higher
wage.
G
So
I
I
think
putting
that
in
statute
for
both
incumbent
and
non-incumbent
workers
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
and
then,
in
looking
at,
I
think
it's
section
two
where
you
talk
about
equipment.
It's
page,
five
on
my
copy
you've
got
in
and.
B
Maybe
it's
two
number
seven
and
eight.
You
now
can
use
money
to
purchase
equipment,
but
it
looks
like
you
basically
have
a
callback
provision
so
that
you
may
recapture
the
equipment-
and
I
think
that
makes
some
sense,
because
we
don't
want
organizations
or
entities
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
equipment
and
thinking.
This
is
kind
of
the
way
to
get
equipment
yeah.
B
So
I
appreciate
you've
got
a
club
fall
back
on
that,
but
but
also
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
any
limitations
in
current
statute
and
you
haven't
added
any
or
sort
of
your
overhead
charges.
So
again
in
section
two,
when
you
get
down
into
bcdef
some
of
the
more
administrative
pieces
of
this
program,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
have
allies
and
would
look
at
setting
a
max
that
you
can
actually
use
for
overhead.
H
And
then
the
last
thing
that
I
have
is
in
section
two
four:
it
talks
about
two
four.
Maybe
it's
number
two,
the
tr
they
used.
You
use
the
term
debard.
It
is
not
excluded
from
receiving
contracts
from
the
federal
government
as
a
result
of
being
debarred.
I
just
want
to
know
what
debard
means
in
in
this
film.
F
Thank
you,
stacey
foster
for
the
record
through
the
chair,
so
the
the
I
guess
the
nomenclature
around
the
barn
is
at
the
federal
level,
and
so
businesses,
through
their
own
actions,
can
be
you
know,
debarred
from
receiving
federal
funds
and-
and
we
see
that
a
lot
in
the
workforce-
not
a
lot,
but
we
see
that
in
the
workforce
space
as
a
protection
when
you're
working
with
employers,
so
if
they
were
a
beneficiary
workforce
development
dollars
as
a
business
and
through
their
own
actions,
took
advantage
committed
fraud
of
those
kinds
of
nature.
F
They
end
up
on
that
list.
It's
just
it's
it's
a
short
due
diligence
check
and
it
encompasses
businesses
who
typically
utilize
or
take
advantage
of
workforce
development
programs.
Is
that
information
readily
available?
F
F
Okay,
so
I
have
a
couple.
So
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
a
question
that
senator
sievers
ganzard
asked
on
the
equipment
so
in
the
equipment
for
the
recapture
and
repurpose.
So
is
this
going
to
be
some
kind
of
security
interest
that
you
maintain?
F
Where
a
document
is
signed
between
the
business
and
the
win
program,
and
is
there
going
to
be
an
issue
about
them?
Keeping
this
keeping
the
equipment
in
a
certain.
H
And
re
ability
to
be
repurposed
into
another
program
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
question,
stacey
vostwick
for
the
record,
so
educational
providers
are
the
ones
who
are
typically
going
to
be
the
recipients
right.
All
of
the
win
funds
go
to
educational
partners
to
develop
the
talent
right
for
those
industry
partners,
and
so
they
they
have
an
expectation
in
terms
of
process
of
maintaining
an
inventory.
They
have
to
obviously
identify
where
those
things
are
located.
It's
process
they
go
through
annually.
F
There
was
nothing
in
place
to
say:
do
they
keep
it?
Do
they
request
it?
How
does
that
look
and
they
they
could
honestly
tell
us,
we
don't
want
it
and
there
was
nothing
there
to
kind
of
say
what
should
we
do
with
that.
So
we
want
to
be
clear
that
in
this
situation,
where,
if
the
program
doesn't
need
the
equipment,
I
can't
imagine
that
being
the
case
or
doesn't
want
it
or
or
unfortunately,
maybe
a
program
didn't
launch
successfully.
F
But
we've
made
this
investment.
We
have
this
equipment
that
we
have
that
that
recapture
flaws
to
bring
that
back.
So
we
have
steps
in
place
to
identify
it
and
in
terms
of
who
funded
it
and
where
it
would
go
and
come
back.
They
have
to
share
that
information.
That's
already
part
of
our
process.
I
think
that
covers
the
bases
unless
there's
something
else
that
we
should
have.
No,
that
was
it
and
then
I
have
another
question
on
the.
I
guess
it's
cooperation
so
for
the
provide.
B
H
F
Making
sure
that
some
of
the
workforce
were
tied
to
credentialing,
also
higher
ed
degrees,
aaba,
etc.
What's
the
relationship
there
and
then
the
second
part
to
that?
What
is
the
interaction
with
workforce
connections,
because
there
seems
to
be
some
duplication
of
things
that
you're
asking
for
here
that
I
know
that
workforce
connections
is
doing
in
their
business
development
offices.
F
Chairs
stacy
foster
for
the
record,
so
I'm
aware
of
the
the
owen
list
of
credentials
as
well.
I
don't.
C
That
mean
something
ideally
to
more
than
one
employer
and
that
we're
not
getting
into
the
space
of
training
someone
how
to
be
an
employee
for
x,
y
or
z,
company
that
we're
giving
them
those
transferable
skills
and
obviously
the
way
that
we
kind
of
talk
about
that
and
the
skills-based
economy
is
just
what
is
what
is
something
that
is
meaningful
within
this
industry?
And
so
even
just
a
simple.
C
C
Credentials
or
skills
or
those
kinds
of
things
that
are
recognized
or
what
are
they
seeking
and
and
we
have
access
to
that
kind
of
data
that
we
can
just
do
a
quick
search,
an
occupational
snapshot
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
lining
things
up.
C
C
I
don't
know
if
we
have
overlap,
we
try
to
be
very
careful
in
terms
of
our
where
we
focus
and
so
the
way
that
I
always
kind
of
like
to
explain
the
way
that
that
win
works
is-
and
it's
probably
not
the
best
analogy
in
the
world.
But
we
have
an
amazing
workforce
system
with
a
lot
of
different
resources,
but
they
can't
enable
people
to
go
to
a
training
program.
If
the
training
program
doesn't
exist
and.
B
The
business
development
side,
I
think,
there's
I
don't
know,
there's
been
many
projects
projects
come
to
us
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
They
come
to.
H
B
H
On-The-Job
training,
then
they
can
leverage
those
dollars
that
workforce
connections
does
for
the
on-the-job
piece
that
might
be
missing,
but
they
would
need
all
of
that
foundational
training
to
get
to
that
point,
and
so
that's
really.
What
wins
focus
is
you
know
getting
those
programs
that
give
people
the
opportunity
for
those
jobs,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
infrastructure
gaps,
building
filling
in
these.
F
Spaces
where
we
have
jobs,
but
we
don't
have
training
programs
to
fill
that
pipeline.
I
hope
that
increases
that
it
does,
and
so
and
now
I
just
want
to
get
into
a
broader
question,
because
I
was
looking
at
the
last
report.
I
don't
know
if
there's
I
know
what
you
put
up,
but
on
the
actual,
when
goed's
website,
when
you
go
to
win
the
report
is
offset,
I
think
roughly
it's
that
two-year
window.
F
So
so
I
I
have
a
couple
questions
on
that
data,
because
multi
is
a
multi-noaa
academy.
There
was
a
460
000
investment,
but
there
was
no
indication
that
there
were
any
jobs
or
any
training
that
went
with
that
460
000..
F
In
addition,
when
I
looked
up
called
the
southern
nevada
manufacturing
skills
program,
there
were,
I
believe
it
was
if
there
was
12
or
17
trained.
I
think
it
was
12
eight
employed,
but
yet
there
was
a
1.1
million
dollar
investment.
F
A
B
H
Meadows
re-entry
I
saw
no
dogs,
and
so
I'm
wondering,
although
I
see
this
bill
change.
B
How
are
we
getting
at?
You
know
actually
making
sure
that
the
outcome
of
the
money
that's
given
translates
actually
into
unemployment.
Karen.
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
the
the
biennial
report
that
you
were
looking
at
online
based
on
on
the
data
that
you're
sharing
was
the
last
biennial
report,
and
so
we
can.
We
can
submit
the
the
current
one,
which
has
updated
outcomes
for
all
those
programs
that
you're
talking
about
for
the
record
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
So
big
picture.
B
I
wanted
to
kind
of
share
a
couple
of
things.
The
the
challenge
with
the
biennial
report
is:
it's
always
kind
of
a
snapshot
a
point
in
time,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
kind
of
capture
and
to
to
visualize.
B
You
know,
folks
that
are
still
in
a
training
program
versus
those
who
have
you
know,
graduated
and
and-
and
you
know
now
in
the
kind
of
workforce
pipeline
right,
they
finish
their
training,
so
that
can
be
a
little
bit
hard
to
capture.
So
you
know,
looking
at
the
last
biennial
report,
we've
been
able
to
say
that
nearly
2
000
people
have
entered
training
and
from
there
from
people
you
know
that
have
have
have
gone
and
started.
We
know
minimally
861
people
have
obtained
at
least
that
first
job
through
receiving
those
those
new
skills.
B
I
think
this
kind
of
ties
back
to
two
potential
pieces
for
discussion,
the
the
first
one
kind
of
being
and
that's
part
of
where
some
of
the
changes
in
the
bill
are
coming
from
in
terms
of
data.
B
We
want
employers
to
know
that
we
need
data
to
help,
demonstrate
the
impact,
and
even
though
we
have
systems
in
place
like
releases
of
information,
it
has
been
challenging.
In
my
experience
in
last,
you
know
two
two
and
a
half
years
to
collect
information.
You
know-
and
I
understand,
from
a
human
resources
perspective
they're,
just
the
data
sharing
and
privacy.
There
are
concerns
you
know
about
that.
B
We
just
want
them
to
kind
of
view
this
as
we're
in
partnership
together,
and
this
kind
of
helps
us
tell
the
story
so
that
we
can
better
articulate
because
what
we
see
on
paper,
we
know
to
be
true,
like
we
know
that
there's
greater
value,
but
we
don't
actually
have
validation
of
it
yeah.
You
know
I'm
kind
of
a
data
person
in
that
way,
I'm
not
going
to
tell
you
something.
I
don't
know
to
be
true,
and
so
you
know
I
always
kind
of
think
about
the
outcomes
we're
giving
you
as
the
baseline.
B
It's
only
better
than
what
we
can
tell
you,
because
we
don't
know,
and
we
don't
get
that
validation,
sometimes
from
some
of
the
employers.
The
other
piece
of
that
is
really
the
with
the
way
the
reversion
works.
You
know
we've
entered
into
certain
projects
and
we
have
a
hard
stop
on
june
30th,
but
also
means
reporting
stops
june
30th.
B
So
if
you
have
someone
who
graduates
from
the
program
on
june
15th,
if
they
don't
get
a
job
before
june
30th,
our
educational
partner
has
no
obligation
to
share
outcomes
and
we
obviously
have
relationships
with
our
educational
providers
and
so
they're
they're,
usually
pretty
good
about
kind
of
sharing
and
updating
and
helping
me
with
the
biennial
report,
but
they're
under
no
obligation
because
those
contracts
agreements,
you
know
stop
with
with
the
end
of
the
biennium
or
reversion.
B
Okay,
well,
the
bill
is
going
to
fix
it
great
because,
based
on
that
report
I
was
just
like
and
what
I
saw
in
your
slides.
I
didn't
really
see
the
the
outgrowth
or
the
breakdown
of
those
programs
extended
so
and
we're
all
trying
to
get
folks
to
a
job
at
the
end
of
the
day
right
and
for
actually
be
matched.
So
I
appreciate
the
presentation
members.
Are
there
any
questions
before
I
move
into
anyone
that
signed
in
for
support
of
sv24.
B
Okay,
seeing
none
vps,
can
you
see
if
anybody
is
on
the
line
for
support
of
sv24.
B
B
Caller,
with
the
last
three
digits
one
one
zero,
you
have
two
minutes,
please
spell
and
state
your
name
for
the
record.
You
may
begin
good
afternoon
for
the
record.
My
name
is
hugh
anderson
a-n-d-e-r-s-o-n,
I'm
managing
director
of
high
tower
las
vegas
and
chairman
of
the
vegas
chambers
government
affairs
committee.
I'm
also
currently
a
member
of
the
governor's
workforce
development
board.
B
I'm
here
today
to
express
my
support
for
senate
bill
24,
and
I
appreciate
the
proposal
that
has
been
brought
forth
by
goed.
These
provisions
are
essential
to
our
economic
recovery
and
workforce.
The
most
vulnerable
of
our
workers
have
been
hard
hit
on
three
separate
occasions
since
the
year
two
thousand
nine
eleven,
the
great
recession
and
the
pandemic.
B
B
This
training
and
new
skills
will
be
vital
as
we
emerge
from
the
pandemic,
since
we
will
need
to
help
displaced
workers,
identify
new
career
opportunities
and
get
them
back
in
the
workforce
with
greater
financial
security
going
forward.
The
vegas
chamber
has
also
undertaken
a
new
workforce
development
initiative
to
help
address
these
concerns
called
southern
nevada
workforce
solutions.
B
This
enterprise
will
focus
on
making
it
easy
for
displaced
workers
to
find
a
job,
but
a
career
and
a
brighter
future
they'll
be
able
to
easily
find
skills
in
aptitude
assessment
institutions
that
provide
courses
and
training
and
where
the
financial
resources
are
a
netflix
for
job
seekers.
If
you
will,
it
will
assist
displaced
employees
with
new
career
paths
that
they
may
not
even
be
aware
of
and
connect
them
with
the
resources
they
need
to
achieve
a
better
future.
I
think
this
is
an
excellent
example
of
public
and
private
effort
being
aligned.
B
B
B
Begin
again,
caller
with
the
last
three
digits
four
six
nine.
You
have
two
minutes,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
may
begin
good
afternoon.
This
is
nate
mckinnon
m-a-c-k-I-n-n-o-n
vice
chancellor
for
community
colleges,
at
the
nevada
system
of
higher
education,
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
system
of
higher
education
and
our
four
community
colleges.
It's
with
great
pleasure
that
I
come
today
to
speak
in
support
of
this
this
bill.
B
The
wind
fund
has
been
incredibly
important
to
our
efforts
in
helping
to
diversify
nevada's
economy
by
upskilling
displaced
workers,
by
ensuring
that
current
workers
have
opportunities
to
upskill,
preventing
the
need
to
import
talent
from
outside
of
the
state.
Our
community
colleges
have
had
a
great
partnership
with
the
governor's
office
of
economic
development,
businesses
and
industry
to
provide
the
training
that
they
need
for
employees.
B
B
Dps
is
anyone
else
on
the
line?
Yes
chair,
caller
with
the
last
three
digits
one,
three
one.
You
have
two
minutes,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
may
begin
karen
neal
and
members
of
the
committee
on
revenue
and
economic
development.
My
name
is
connor
kane
c-o-n-n-o-r-c-a-I
and
I'm
testifying
today
on
behalf
of
lvgea
in
support
of
senate
bill
24..
B
Many
of
the
reasons
that
director
brown
covered
in
his
economic
development
presentation,
the
workforce
innovations
for
a
new
nevada
account
or
wind
fund
is
one
of
the
best
tools
that
we
have
for
economic
development
in
southern
nevada,
as
ms
bostwick
mentioned,
haas
automation's
partnership
with
the
college
of
southern
nevada
is
a
great
example
of
this.
We
frankly
support
any
changes
to
strengthen
the
wind
fund
and
appreciate
director
brown's
leadership
on
this
topic.
We
thank
you
for
your
time
and
encourage
your
support
to
senate
bill
24.
B
B
Hi
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
patti
charlton,
last
name
c-h-a-r-l-t-o-n
good
afternoon
cheer,
neil
and
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
the
vice
president
provost
of
the
henderson
campus
of
the
college
of
southern
nevada.
On
behalf
of
the
college.
We
are
in
support
of
sb
24
and
specifically,
the
revisions
that
were
outlined
by
ms
passwick
csn
is
very
grateful
and
appreciate
the
work
and
great
collaboration
that
we've
had
with
the
governor's
office
of
economic
development
and
we've
been
beneficiaries
of
the
win
funds
and
recently
received
1.8
million
dollars
in
this
past
year.
B
Additionally,
I
want
to
also
highlight
our
support
for
the
interpretation
of
the
bill
that
allows
for
that
non-reversion
language
that
ms
boswick
spoke
of
this
non-reversion
language
provides
us
the
flexibility
contin
to
continue
to
work
on
projects
without
the
biennium
hardstar,
hard,
stop
and
reversion
of
those
funds
back
to
the
general
fund.
For
example,
the
non-reversion
language
gives
us
flexibility
in
the
areas
where
we
find
some
supply
chain
delays,
curriculum
development
and
facility
redesign
that
may
be
necessary
to
support
these
new
industries.
B
B
B
B
Caller,
with
the
last
three
digits
one
two
zero,
you
have
two
minutes,
please
state
and
spill
your
name
for
the
record.
You
may
begin
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
stephen
cohen,
for
the
record
stephen
with
the
v
cohen,
as
in
the
assembly
woman,
but
no
known
relation
that
we're
familiar
with.
I
just
wanted
to
address
a
point
that
the
governor
made
in
his
state
of
the
state
in
a
policy
context.
B
B
B
So
I
would
ask
and
I'll
be
handling
this
again
on
the
money
committees,
when
dieter
presents
their
budget
in
early
march,
that
a
portion
of
that
75
million
be
allocated
to
projects
and
policies
that
advance
opportunities
for
people
with
disabilities
in
our
state
without
medicare,
thankfully,
yield.
B
No
chair,
the
public
line
is
open
and
working.
However,
there
are
no
more
callers
at
this
time.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Miss
bostic
director
brown.
Are
there
any
closing
comments?
No.
Thank
you.
Madam
chair.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
looked
at
this
committee
and
realized
the
incredible
breadth
of
experience
that
sits
on
this
committee
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
this.
B
Comments,
thank
you
chair.
The
public
line
is
open
and
working.
However,
there
are
no
other
callers
at
the
time.