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A
Here
so
before
we
begin,
I
would
like
to
explain
how
virtual
committee
meetings
will
work,
since
this
is
a
new
but
old
process.
As
you
know,
the
legislative
building
is
currently
closed
to
the
public,
and
so
all
committee
meetings
will
be
held
virtually
meaning
committee
members
staff
and
everyone
else
will
participate
either
through
zoom
video
conference
or
by
telephone.
A
A
The
four
ways
to
engage
the
committee
are
one
registering
to
participate
in
a
committee
meeting
through
the
news
system
on
nellis,
which
places
you
in
line
to
testify
on
a
bill
or
provide
public
comment.
During
the
meeting
two
provide
submitted,
written
testimony
to
the
committee,
email
address
or
fax
number
on
the
list
on
the
agenda,
three
share
your
opinion
via
the
legislators,
opinion
application
on
nellis
or
for
simply
just
view,
the
committee
meeting
through
nellis
or
on
the
legislative
youtube
channel
during
the
2021
legislative
session,
to
testify
on
a
bill
or
provide
public
comment.
A
Members
of
the
public
must
first
register
for
the
meeting
you
would
like
to
participate
in
comedian
meetings
are
listed
in
several
places
on
nellis
and
to
register
simply
click
the
participate
button
near
the
meeting
date
and
time
and
then
fill
in
the
required
information,
such
as
your
name.
The
agenda
item
you're
interested
in
your
position
on
the
bill.
A
A
B
B
revises
provisions
relating
to
economic
development
and
sponsored
by
senator
seaver's,
ganser
and
herd
in
this
committee
on
march
2nd
senate
bill
117
requires
the
governor's
office
of
economic
development
or
goed
to
update
the
state
plan
for
economic
development
at
least
once
every
three
years
it
requires
at
least
once
every
two
years.
Each
regional
development
authority
must
present
a
plan
to
the
executive
director
of
go
ed
regarding
the
development
and
enhancement
of
a
recruiting
and
marketing
effort
to
attract
professionals
and
businesses
to
the
region
of
the
state.
That's
served
by
that
regional
economic
development
authority.
B
A
First,
by
senator
for
a
second
by
senator
dennis,
will
the
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
Seeing
none
will
the
secretary
please
call
the
role.
C
D
A
Yes,
okay,
so
I
will
assign
the
floor
statement
to
the
bill
passes
unanimously.
I
will
assign
the
floor
statement
to
senator
sievers
gansard.
Thank
you
manager,
okay,
all
right.
So
that
closes
our
work
session
so
that
now
we
will
move
to
our
bill
hearing
and
we
will
open
up
for
ab9
and
call
department
of
taxation
to
present.
E
We
are
here
to
present
assembly
bill
9,
which
revises
the
provisions
governing
the
disclosure
of
some
confidential
information
held
by
the
department
by
allowing
the
department
to
share
information
to
the
governor's
finance
office
strictly
for
the
purpose
of
revenue
projections.
But
I'd
like
to
do
it
this
time.
I
would
like
to
turn
it
over
to
chief
deputy
shelly
hughes,
who
will
go
through
the
provisions
of
the
bill.
F
Good
afternoon,
chair
neal
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
shelly
hughes,
chief
deputy
for
the
department
of
taxation.
I'm
here
today
to
introduce
assembly
bill
9..
As
director
young
stated,
ab9
authorizes
disclosure
and
confidence
of
the
records
and
files
of
the
department
to
the
budget
division
of
the
office
of
finance
for
use
in
the
projection
of
revenue.
F
Nrs
360
255
is
the
department's
confidentiality
statute
and
provides
that
the
department
cannot
disclose
the
records
and
files
of
a
taxpayer
relating
to
the
administration
and
collection
of
taxes,
fees
and
assessments.
However,
this
statute
also
provides
exceptions.
When
the
department
can
disclose
records
and
files.
F
Nrs
353
provides
the
various
powers
and
duties
of
the
budget
division,
which
includes
preparing
the
budget
and
forecasting
numbers
for
the
economic
forum
staff
in
the
budget.
Division
at
the
governor's
finance
office
requires
data
from
the
department
of
taxation
when
making
its
revenue
projections
for
the
economic
forum
pursuant
to
nrs
353
228,
the
economic
forum
is
responsible
for
forecasting
future
state
general
fund
revenues
for
seven
of
the
state's
major
revenue
sources
for
each
of
these
revenue
sources.
F
To
prepare
these
forecasts.
The
legislative
council,
bureau's
fiscal
analysis,
division
and
the
governor's
finance
office
budget
division
need
data
regarding
past
and
current
revenues
of
the
state
that
are
in
taxation's
possession.
Currently,
we
are
able
to
release
this
data
to
the
legislative
council
bureau's
fiscal
division
pursuant
to
nrs
218f
620..
F
However,
no
such
statute
exists
for
us
to
release
this
information
to
the
governor's
finance
office
budget
division.
Not
having
access
to
this
information
provides
a
disadvantage
to
the
governor's
finance
office
budget
division.
When
forecasting
the
numbers,
the
economic
forum
relies
on
these
forecasts
when
determining
the
official
forecast
of
future
state
general
fund
revenues
and
how
much
revenue
will
be
available
for
the
biennial
budget
cycle.
F
Furthermore,
all
agencies
of
the
state,
including
the
governor
and
the
nevada
legislature,
are
required
to
use
the
forum's
forecast,
which
is
provided
shortly
before
the
beginning
of
a
new
legislative
session.
As
a
result,
it
would
be
prudent
for
the
economic
forum
to
have
the
best
forecasts
to
make
the
official
forecast
determination.
F
Taxation's
economist,
haley
owens
states
that
often
there
are
anomalies
in
the
data
that
could
lead
to
inaccurate
projections,
if
not
explained
and
accounted
for,
for
example,
if
there's
a
sudden
decline
in
revenue
in
a
specific
industry,
geographic
area
or
tax
type.
Is
this
due
to
a
change
in
the
underlying
economy,
or
perhaps
a
large
taxpayer
became
non-compliant,
or
perhaps
the
taxpayer
was
recoded
into
a
different
industry
being
able
to
clearly
discuss
whether
the
changes
in
the
data
were
due
to
actual
changes
in
economic
activity
or
to
non-economic
changes
in
taxpayer?
C
C
This
is
susannah
powers,
economist
for
the
budget
division
of
the
governor's
finance
office,
and
I
am
here
with
the
department
of
taxation
to
present
ap9,
which
revises
provisions
governing
the
disclosure
of
certain
information
by
the
department
of
taxation
to
the
budget
division
of
the
governor's
office
of
finance.
Under
certain
circumstances,
it
is
important
to
note
that
the
disclosure
of
certain
confidential
information
to
the
budget
division
will
only
be
utilized
with
the
projections
of
revenues.
C
Nrs
353.2272
requires
the
director
of
the
legislative
council
bureau
and
the
chief
of
the
budget
division
of
the
finance
office
to
jointly
provide
staff
to
the
economic
forum.
The
current
law
only
allows
the
fiscal
division
of
the
legislative
council
bureau
to
acquire
confidential
information
from
the
department
of
taxation
related
to
matters
of
revenue
protections,
but
does
not
allow
them
to
discuss
these
matters
with
the
staff
in
a
budget
division.
C
Given
the
joint
nature
of
the
work
required
for
the
economic
forum,
the
current
law
does
not
allow
both
parties
to
work
under
the
same
information
set.
The
two
offices
also
prepare
consensus
revenue
protections
for
various
non-general
fund
revenue
sources,
such
as
those
dedicated
to
support
k-12
education.
C
The
latter
is
just
one
example
of
a
situation
in
which
the
two
offices
work
together
on
revenue
protections
needed
by
both
the
executive
and
legislative
branches
of
government
in
budget
development,
development
and
the
approval
process,
but
the
current
law
does
not
allow
the
two
offices
to
discuss
matters
that
may
be
confidential
in
nature.
Ab9
allows
the
staff
at
the
budget
division
of
governor's
finance
office
to
fully
execute
the
duty,
as
described
in
nrs
353.2272b
and
work
jointly
with
staff
at
the
fiscal
division
of
legislative
council
bureau
on
revenue
protections.
C
E
D
Thank
you.
I
certainly
understand
the
intent
and
it
seems
to
make
sense,
there's
no
reason
that
miss
power
should
be
at
a
disadvantage
when
projecting
revenue
as
compared
to
her
counterparts
and
other
branches
of
government.
But
I'm
surprised
frankly,
that
it's
it's
going
on
this
way
and
as
I
read
current
statute,
I
mean
how
is
the
gfo
not
an
agent
of
the
governor
and
how
is
how
is
revenue
projection,
not
part
of
the
governor's
general
supervisory
duties?
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
like
that
you
should
be
covered
under
the
current
statute.
E
What
we
did
this
process
has
looked
at
that
section
and
we
did
do
a
work
around
to
allow
the
governor's
office
to
designate
the
honors
finance
office,
susanna
powers
to
have
this
information,
and
we
are
looking
at
this
as
a
temporary
workaround,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
in
compliance
with
the
statute.
So
that's
why
we're
bringing
forth
this
legislation?
Thank
you.
A
A
E
But
what
I
would
like
to
share
is
I.
I
believe
that
the
economist
at
the
governor's
finance
office
is
more
of
a
recent
addition
to
that
position
and
the
accomplished
at
the
department
of
taxation,
I
believe,
was
a
recent
position
in
the
last
five
or
so
years,
and
with
this
new
collaboration,
that's
happening
between
the
economist,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
could
share
that
information
and
if
deputy
hughes
could
share
any
other
information
that
she
might
have
available.
Thank
you.
F
Shelly
hughes
for
the
record,
I
don't
really
have
any
of
the
legislative
history
available
on
this,
but
I
I
can
note
that
disclosure
to
lcb's
fiscal
division
is
also
not
included
in
360
255
and
so
they're
able
to
get
the
information
through
a
separate
statute.
F
And
it's
likely
this
wasn't
taken
into
account
when
the
drafting
of
360
255.
F
Was
was
done
and
we
look
at
360
255,
subsection
2e,
where
it
does
give
disclosure
to
the
the
governor
and
his
agents
in
the
supervisory
power.
We
felt
that
that
was
open
to
interpretation
and
for
certainty.
We
thought
that
this
language
should
explicitly
state
that
the
information
is
disclosable
to
the
budget
office
for
revenue
projections.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
I
believe
mr
gindin
has
some
legislative
history
he's
been
around
for
like
a
really
long
time.
G
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
this
way.
I
appreciate
that
said
to
me
so
for
the
record
russell
again
and
principal
deputy
physical
analyst
with
the
physical
analysis
division
and
as
I
go
through
my
comments
here,
I
need
to
do
my
disclosure
that,
as
nonpartisan
legislative
council
bureau
of
staff,
I'm
neither
support
or
promote
or
support
or
opposed
proposed
legislation.
G
But
I
think
I
can
probably
offer
some
context
for
the
members
of
the
committee,
especially
with
regards
to
jared
neil's
question
and
senator
kemper's
question
you're
talking
to
the
first
economist
of
the
budget
office
when
they
created
that
position
in
1994,
and
I
took
it
so
and
then
I
was
smart
enough
to
come
over
to
the
bureau
in
1999..
G
So
so
I
I
would
offer
for
senator
keith
cover
sort
of
question
was:
is
that
and
senator
neal
simultaneously
that
it
is
sort
of
an
evolutionary
thing
sometimes?
And
because
I
can
tell
you
when
I
was
at
the
economist
at
the
budget
office,
I
really
didn't
think
about
asking
for
confidential
taxpayer
data.
G
Ironically,
about
the
same
time
as
I
came
to
the
state
to
work
for
the
budget
office.
So
I
what
I've
seen
in
myself
being
involved
in
this
revenue
forecasting
stuff
since
94,
is
the
current
economist,
susanna
powers.
That's
at
the
budget
office,
I
think,
is
actively
engaging
in
this
stuff
at
the
same
level
that
lcb
staff
is
so
we're
making
use
of
218.620
to
get
this
data
to
be
able
to
try
and
learn
more
about.
G
So
then,
we've
been
in
our
as
physical
staff
and
budget
and
taxation.
We've
just
been
interacting
much
more
for
to
make
sure
we
all
have
the
same
information
set,
so
we're
not
colluding
or
interacting
on
the
actual
forecast
that
we're
presenting
to
the
form
or
the
technical
advisory
committee
to
the
forum,
but
as
forecasters,
we
think
it's
prudent
that
we're
at
least
all
having
the
same
perspective
or
information
set
on
under
which
to
produce
those
forecasts.
G
So
out
of
that
came
fiscal
asking
for
data
and
having
that
and
then
we
could
talk
to
haley
owens
at
taxation,
but
then
we
couldn't
really
interact
with
susannah
powers,
because
she
didn't
have
the
data
and
then,
as
it
was
stated,
they
did
the
work
around
based
on
the
law
to
have
the
governor
say,
give
the
data
to
the
governor's
finance
office.
So
I
think
this
statutory
provision
just
makes
it
clear
that
hey
gfo
doesn't
have
to
try
and
go
to
the
governor
and
have
the
governor
go.
G
They
can
just
make
their
quest
the
same
way
fiscal
analysis,
division
staff
can,
and
so
that's
really.
I
think
it's
an
evolutionary
thing
of
the
gfo
and
and
fiscal
making
use
of
this
because
of
economic
events
that
have
happened,
because
I
can
tell
you,
probably,
your
fiscal
staff
didn't
make
too
much
use
of
this,
except
for
very
specific
legislative
requests
and
tell
probably
the
great
recession.
G
It
has
realized
that
we
needed
to
start
getting
our
hands
on
this
data
and
then,
since
we
learned
the
value
of
that,
we
we
use
it
more
during
the
pandemic,
and
we
will
probably
continue
to
use
that.
And
thus
it
does
make
sense
to
me
that
then
my
counterpart
in
the
budget
office,
when
we
do
need
to
interact
and
engage
but
have
the
same
ability
to
have
the
information
set
that
your
staff
does.
So
we
can
continue
to
interact
on
a
common
information
set
for
preparing
forecasts.
G
A
D
E
Thank
you
senator
keith
keffer
for
the
question
melanie
young
executive
director.
That
is
a
correct
statement.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
following
the
statutes
and
having
that
clarity
is
important
and
partnering
with
the
governor's
finance
office
and
being
able
to
provide
the
details
on
the
revenue
revenues
that
the
state
collects.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
additional
questions,
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
open
up
for
support
of
ab9
bps
is
anyone
called
have
they
called
in.
D
Chair
there
are
no
callers
on
the
line
at
this
time.
Would
you
like
to
take
a
pause
to
wait
to
see
if
anyone
will
call
in.
D
A
Okay,
all
right
is,
let's
see
if
anyone
has
dialed
in
for
opposition
to
89.