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A
A
Welcome
to
the
joint
assemblyways
and
means
and
senate
general
government
subcommittee.
I
will
call
this
meeting
before
we
get
started
with
the
budgets.
I
just
want
to
go
over
a
few
housekeeping
items,
although
the
building
has
been
officially
open
to
the
public
for
a
little
while
there
continue
to
be
limits
on
building
capacity.
So,
in
addition
to
attending
meetings
in
person,
the
public
and
other
presenters
are
welcome
to
continue
to
participate
using
the
online
sign
up
for
each
meeting,
which
can
be
found
on
the
nellis
link
to
this
meeting.
A
Additionally,
the
public
can
continue
to
follow
these
meetings
on
the
legislature's
youtube
channel
links
can
also
be
found
on
nellis.
Today,
staff
will
be
presenting
us
with
eight
budget
closing
documents.
These
are
available
in
the
committee
room
and
hard
copy,
and
each
member
the
committee
should
now
have
a
copy.
Those
participating
online
can
find
those
closing
documents
on
nellis
on
today's
meeting
link
under
exhibits
with
that,
ms
hopi.
Please
proceed
with
our
first
budget
closing
for
deferred
compensation
committee
budget
number,
101-1017.
B
B
B
A
C
A
A
D
D
D
There
is
one
major
issue
and
it
is
the
division
rate
fluctuations
in
order
to
develop
revised
arrays
for
services
for
the
upcoming
biennium.
These
evaluates
changes
in
service
utilizations,
labor
distributions
of
staff
to
support
such
services
associated
expenditures
also
referred
to
as
cost
pools
and
reserve
levels.
D
D
Beginning
at
the
top
of
page,
six
staff
will
provide
an
overview
of
the
major
issues
discussed
during
the
budget
hearing
and
questions
posed
by
subcommittee
members
regarding
agency
I.t
services.
Database
hosting
utilizations
are
anticipated
to
increase
approximately
200
percent
over
the
2021-23
biennium
when
compared
to
the
2019
legislatively
approved
levels
subcommittee
members
questioned
how
the
agency
would
be
able
to
cover
a
shortfall
of
revenue
if
projected
utilizations
did
not
materialize
as
forecasted
and
response
agency
indicated,
reserves
would
have
to
be
would
have
to
be
accessed
that
the
short
falling
utilizations
did
occur.
D
Next,
the
computer
facility
mainframe
services
during
the
march
5th
2021
hearing
subcommittee
members
questioned
why
the
mainframe
services
cost
poll
is
increasing
21
when
utilizations
were
estimated
to
decrease
by
55,
which
is
resulting
in
a
recommended
56
percent
increase.
In
the
rate
over
the
upcoming
biennium,
the
agency
indicated
the
cospoles
were
increasing
due
to
the
purchase
of
new
printers
authorized
during
the
2019
legislative
session,
and
utilizations
were
decreasing
due
to
a
transition
of
distributing
documents
electronically,
as
opposed
to
print.
C
D
Hours,
business,
one
position
being
billed
improperly
and
changes
in
overhead
costs.
During
the
budget
hearing
subcommittee
members
sought
clarification
on
whether
agencies
were
receiving
the
same
level
of
service
or
approximately
the
same
costs
and
response
agencies
indicated.
Decreased
utilizations
are
achievable
to
moving
from
a
pure
flex
platform
to
a
power
platform
which
requires
less
central
processing
units
to
perform
similar
tasks.
D
Finally,
network
transport
services,
microwave
internet
circuit
and
site
space,
the
subcommittee
requested
supporting
documentation,
documentation,
justifying
why
the
agency
is
shifting
their
labor
distributions
evenly
amongst
the
budget's
four
cost
polls
response
agencies
indicated
percentages
are
derived
from
the
labor
allocations,
based
on
a
reasonable
estimation
of
the
amount
of
time
each
fte
works
in
each
cost
pool.
In
addition,
the
agency
indicated
labor
allocations
will
continue
over
the
21-23
2123
biennium
for
the
ds0
and
ds1
cost
polls.
Due
to
the
delay
of
the
nevada
department
of
transportation's
new
p25
radio
system,
there.
B
D
A
technical
adjustment
according
to
the
agency,
the
rates
during
the
budget
bill
process
utilized
an
additional
10
days
of
operating
reserves
higher
than
the
2019
legislative
leave
group
levels.
The
agency
reports,
the
increase
of
reserves,
were
intended
to
provide
a
buffer
for
minor
budget
fluctuations
and
were
intended
to
be
brought
back
down
to
the
2019
legislatively
approved
levels.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
on
on
the
charts
that
are
on
page
10.
F
I
you
started
to
address
this,
but
I
guess
my
question
is
the
next
step
on
that
chart
where
it
talks
mainframe
services,
both
in
the
service
cost
pool
and
in
the
customer
utilization,
because
they
relate
to
each
other.
It
looks
like
mainframe
services
and
unix
support
are
going
down
and
this
storage
is
going
up.
So
there's
a
change
in
those
is
that
is
that
a
pattern
that
we're
seeing
every
biennium
now
that
we're
less
less
need
for
main
terrain
services
and
unix
support.
A
Yes,
we
can.
I
just
want
to,
though,
ask
everybody
who's
on
zoom
to
ensure
that
you
are
muted.
If
you
are
not
speaking.
D
Madam
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
question
to
you,
madam
chair,
to
senator
dennis.
I
would
suggest
that
you
ask
the
agency,
in
response
to
the
general
trend
for
mainframe
and
unix
services,.
A
G
Yes,
madam
chair,
this
is
tim
galluzzi
administrator
for
eats
for
the
record
through
you
to
senator
dennis.
Yes,
that
is
the
trend
that
we
are
seeing.
We
are
seeing
that
agencies
are
transitioning
through
modernization,
efforts
from
mainframe
services
to
either
server-based
or
cloud-based
services,
so
that
that
is
a
trend
that
we're
seeing
and
we
anticipate
that
moving
forward.
G
Thank
you
for
the
question
senator
once
again,
this
is
tim
gage
for
the
record.
We
do
evaluate
our
rates
at
the
end
of
every
fiscal
year
to
make
sure
that
we
do
a
true
up,
and
we
do
that
through
our
admin
services
division,
as
that
trend
continues
to
progress
as
agencies
continue
to
do
modernization,
efforts
and
move
to
server
infrastructure
or
cloud-based
infrastructure.
G
We
do
expect
that
the
the
cost
of
maintaining
those
mainframe
services
will
go
up
for
the
agencies
that
are
still
on
it.
But
at
this
point
that's
incredibly
difficult
to
forecast.
G
F
A
Thank
you
senator
and
thank
you,
mr
galluzzi.
Are
there
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
assemblyman
levitt.
H
So
I
don't
speak
I.t
very
well,
and
so
I
have
to
kind
of
navigate,
and
I
couldn't
hear
mr
malone
all
that
well,
but
is
it?
Is
it
my
understanding
that
you're
increasing
the
infrastructure
and
capacity
while
the
need
is
going
down
and
decreasing?
Is
that
am
I
right
on
that,
or
did
I
just
mishear
you.
A
G
With
that
cost
pool,
there
was
actually
a
change
in
the
the
unit
of
measure,
so
the
unit
of
measure
that
determines
the
rates
actually
got
larger
so
that
it
appears
that
the
cost
is
going
up
substantially,
but
the
unit
of
measure
also
got
larger,
so
the
the
agencies
will
use
less
of
those
units,
but
each
one
of
those
units
that
they
use
would
be
larger
and
actually
cost
more
money,
but
the
agency
would
actually
be
using
less
of
those
individual
units
of
measure.
H
It
really
didn't
so
in
layman's
term
measurement
units
aside.
Are
we
building
to
the
current
need
of
capacity
or
are
we
not.
G
This
is
tim
gliese
for
the
record.
Yes,
we
are,
we
we're
constantly
analyzing
the
actual
usage
and
making
sure
that
our
environment
is
right.
Sized
for
the
agency's
needs.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
move
to
approve
the
cost
and
labor
distributions
within
various
eats
expenditure.
Cost
pools,
as
recommended
by
the
governor
and
the
technical
adjustments
to
adjust
the
rates
to
reflect
reserve
levels
approved
during
the
2019
legislative
session.
A
Second,
madam
chair,
thank
you.
I
have
a
motion
by
senator
brooks
and
a
second
by
vice
chair
houdiki.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed,
nay
motion
passes
unanimously.
Mr
malone,
would
you
mind
covering
the
other
closing
items.
D
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
move
that
we
close
item
one
go
as
recommended
by
the
governor
with
technical
adjustments
as
necessary.
B
A
Second,
thank
you.
I
have
a
motion
from
senator
brooks
and
a
second
from
vice
chair
haudeke.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay
motion
passes
unanimously,
and
I
believe
we
have
to
flip
through
a
couple
of
pages
to
get
to
the
next
budget.
Mr
malone,
please
proceed.
D
E
D
A
Thank
you,
mr
malone.
Are
there
any
questions
on
this
budget
items
or
budget
items
seeing
none?
I
would
entertain
a
motion.
C
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
next
budget
is
721-1385.
Each
computer
facility
begins
on
page
17..
There
is
one
major
issue
and
the
governor
recommends
the
utilization
of
two
million
dollars
in
reserves
over
the
2123
biennium
to
find
a
statewide
multi-factor
authentication
service
platform.
According
to
the
agency
and
users
of
state
systems,
often
use
weak
passwords,
which
may
lead
to
security
breaches
to
prevent
unauthorized
access
to
state
systems.
D
The
recommended
provider,
microsoft
azure,
would
integrate
with
the
smart
21
know
before
office
365
and
salesforce
mtx
systems.
The
table
in
the
middle
of
page
18
provides
an
overview
of
the
cost
to
acquire
the
licenses.
Fiscal
staff
would
note
the
agency
indicated.
Azure
is
available
to
the
state
through
the
microsoft
enterprise
license.
Agreement
and
implementation
costs
are
already
budgeted
under.
A
D
I
Thank
you
chair.
My
question
is
when
going
back
to
the
previous
item
when
it
talked
about
the
recommendation
for
because
of
economies
of
scale
to
provide
for
the
lowest
cost
solution,
is
the
lowest
cost
solution
the
best
solution
for
this
situation?
I
I
mean,
if
we're,
if
we're
looking
at
cost,
what
would
an
optimum
an
optimum
solution
cost
because,
again,
with
this
type
of
security,
I
do
get
concerned.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
that
that
we're
not
just
you
know
that
we're
going
toward
what's
going
to
keep
everything
the
safest
and
most
secure.
G
Tim
gloozy
administrator
of
eats
for
the
record.
This
is
considered
the
lowest
cost
option
because
it
takes
advantage
of
the
economies
of
scale
right
now
in
the
office
365
environment
we've
already
made
significant
investment
to
to
ensure
that
the
base
level
of
support
is
the
same
across
all
agencies
in
nevada.
G
G
Authentication
provided
through
microsoft
and
office
365
leveraging
our
current
investment
is
a
solid
platform.
It
is
it's
one
of
the
industry's
top
and
actually
it
is
recommended
by
gartner
as
well.
So
it
is
a
solid
solution
and
we
are
confident
that
it
will
provide
the
security
necessary
for
the
state.
We
want
the
state
data
and
the
constituent
data
to
be
as
protected
as
we
would.
Our
own
personal
banking
information
and
the
the
azure
multi-factor
authentication
system
will
do
exactly
that.
For
us.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
move
to
recommend
approving
the
implementation
of
a
multi-factor
authentication
platform
statewide,
as
recommended
by
the
governor,
as
well
as
other
closing
items,
be
closed,
as
recommended
by
the
governor
and
request
authority
and
in
grant
authority
to
her
staff
to
make
technical
adjustments
as
necessary.
A
I
think
you
have
a
motion
from
senator
brooks
and
a
second
from
vice
chair.
How
to
get.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
and
mr
malone.
I
believe
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
budget
items.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
james,
malone,
lcd
fiscal
for
the
record.
The
next
budget
on
the
agenda
is
seven
two
one
one.
Three
eight
six
needs
data
communication
and
network
engineering
and
begins
on
page
21
of
your
package.
Now
there
are
no
major
closing
issues
and
one
other
closing
item
which
appears
reasonable
to
staff
detailed
in
the
table.
Page
22.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
move
that
closing
item
one
be
closed,
as
recommended
by
the
governor
and
with
technical
adjustments
as
necessary.
A
I
think
you
have
a
motion
from
senator
brooks
and
a
second
from
vice
chair
howard.
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay
motion
passes
unanimously
and
we
can
move
to
the
next
budget.
Please.
A
D
Next
budget
on
the
agenda
721-1387
eats
telling
communications
and
begins
on
page
23
of
your
packets.
There
are
no
closing
issues
or
other
closing
items.
Fiscal
staff
recommends
this
budget
be
closed,
as
recommended
by
the
governor
and
request
authority
for
staff
to
make
technical
adjustments
as
necessary.
F
Thank
you.
I
have
a
quick
question
on
our
telecommunications.
Does
this
bring?
Are
we
to
the
point
where
everybody's
using
the
same
system
throughout
the
state?
Does
this
do
that.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question
after
you,
madam
chair
to
senator,
dennis,
I
would
refer
to
the
agency
to
respond
to
that.
To
that
question.
G
Madam
chair,
this
is
tim
gliese
for
the
record
administrator.
Unfortunately,
no,
not
at
this
point
there
there
are
still
other
systems
across
the
state
that
are
owned
and
managed
by
the
agencies.
We,
we
are
continuing
to
build
those
relationships
and
partnerships
to
work
with
those
agencies
to
find.
If
there
are
points
in
which
we
can
bring
the
systems
into
a
more
unified
telecommunications
system,
but
the
the
state's
maturity
level
just
isn't
quite
there
yet.
But
it
is
something
that
we
are
striving
towards.
G
G
F
A
A
B
D
One
three:
eight
eight,
each
network,
transport
services.
There
are
no
major
issues
and
four
other
closing
items
which
appear
reasonable
to
staff
detailed
in
the
table
on
page
26.,
a
fiscal
staff
recommends
all
closing
items
be
closed,
as
recommended
by
the
governor
and
request
authority
for
staff
to
make
typical
adjustments
as
necessary.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
this
is
just
a
question
for
my
own
education.
So
a
lot
of
these
budgets
have
replacement
of
computer
equipment
on
there,
and
I
was
just
curious
how
often
we
do
replace
that
equipment
because,
as
we're
going
through
these
budgets,
I
see
that
over
and
over
and
over
again.
So
I
wonder
if
it's
is
it
something
that
every
time
every
two
years
you're
replacing
equipment
is
that
is
that
how
it
works
or
was
I
just,
did
I
just
miss
it
when
I
wasn't
on
this
committee
last
time.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
to
assemblyman
levitz,
depending
on
the
user.
So
each
does
establish
the
replacement
schedule
which
a
lot
of
the
agencies
abide
to
and
depending
on
the
type
of
user
that
you
are,
if
you're
considered
a
regular
standard
user,
your
replacement
schedule
for
a
computer
would
be
about
five
years
as
you're
considered
at
power
users,
where
you
use
heavy
data
analytics
or
wear
on
your
hardware
itself,
the
replacement
schedule
will
be
every
three
years.
A
C
A
I
think
you
have
a
motion
from
senator
brooks
in
a
second
from
vice
chair
howard.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay
motion
passes
unanimously.
Mr
malone,
I
think
this
is
our
last
budget.
If
you
would
please
proceed.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
final
budget
is
721-1389,
eats
it
security
and
begins
on
page
27.
There
are
no
major
closing
issues
and
two
other
closing
items
which
appear
reasonable
to
staff
detail
in
the
table.
Page
28
fiscal
staff
recommends
all
other
closing
items
be
posed,
as
recommended
by
the
governor
and
request
authority
for
staff
to
make
technical
adjustments
as
necessary.
H
A
Actually,
I
think
that
we
have
a
variety
of
replacement
schedules.
It
just
depends
on
which
piece
of
equipment
we're
replacing.
H
I'm
just
talking
about
this
this
this
particular
wherever
they're
going.
I
just
you
know
having
having
worked
in
government.
I
I
see
the
replacement
schedule
and
it
seems
a
little
aggressive,
sometimes
in
my
mind,
but
I
just
feel
I
mean
it's
not
a
lot
of
money,
but
I
feel
like
we
do
it
very
very.
A
Often
I'm
if
you
would
like
a
breakdown
of
what
pieces
of
equipment
are
being
replaced,
I'm
sure
staff
could
provide
you
with
that
and
you
can
ensure
next
session
that
those
pieces
aren't
being
replaced,
but
I
do
think
it's
efficient
to
have
you
know
computers,
not
every
computer,
be
replaced
in
the
same
year,
so
people
have
redundancies
in
those
places.
So
if,
if
I'm
incorrect,
please
correct
me,
but
I
do
believe
that
we
will
likely
see
a
staggered
replacement
for
hardware
regularly
in
this
committee.
F
And
this
particular
budget,
I
think,
if
you
look
at
it's
I.t
security,
I
would
think
these
are
probably
power
users,
so
I
would
imagine
that
they
probably
do
get
thirst
replaced
every
two
years,
as
opposed
to
maybe
somebody
that
works
in
taxation
that
just
does
data
entry.
They
would
only
do
it
every
five
years.
So
that's
that's.
What
the
difference
is
in
what
the
schedule
is
going
to
determine
is
how
what
their
usage
is
per
user.
E
I
am
sure
I
do
or
I'll
yield
to
mr
tuma,
whichever
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
so
eats
is
on
a
three-year
replacement
schedule
for
most
computer
hardware.
Now,
that's
just
computers.
We
also
have
each
because
they
utilize
a
lot
of
other
equipment,
that's
on
other
replacement
schedules,
but
it's
typical
to
see
equipment
replacement
in
most
budget
accounts.
E
E
E
The
other
thing
that
impacts
our
replacement
equipment
for
iit
is
that
during
the
budget,
reductions
of
fy,
20
and
21,
some
of
our
replacement
equipment
monies
were
either
reverted
or
returned
to
reserve
to
save
internal
service
funds,
so
in
some
cases
we're
actually
over
our
recommended
replacement
age
and
so
you'll
see
that
impact
equipment
schedules
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
No,
I
just
wanted
I'm
grateful
for
the
explanation.
I
just
I
think
it's
important
that
that
the
public
knows
you
know
that
we're
being
prudent
with
these,
these
things
with
our
nickels
as
well
as
our
our
dollars,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
explanation
and
and
the
clarification
again,
I
don't
speak
I.t,
so
I
apologize
for
my
ignorance.
F
A
Are
there
any
other?
Was
that
a
serious
question?
Do
you
want
me
to
ask
if
someone
okay,
all
right?
Well,
if
there
are
no
other
questions,
I
would
go
ahead
and
entertain
a
motion.
C
A
Thank
you.
Do
I
have
a
second
thank
you
senator
brooks
with
the
motion
and
the
second
by
vice
chair
houdaki.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
this
motion
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
those
opposing
a
most
emotion
carries
unanimously
and
with
that
we
are
done
with
my
closing
documents.
A
Unless
I'm
missing
something,
and
so
we
can,
we
can
move
on
to
our
last
agenda
item
public
comment.
We
do
have
an
attendee
in
the
room.
Would
you
like
no
he's
waving
for
public
comment?
No,
thank
you.
Is
there
anybody
on
the
zoom
for
public
comment
or
anybody
on
broadcast
broadcast?
Would
you
go
ahead
and
open
the
lines
for
public
comment.
A
A
A
Great
well,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
staff
and
broadcast
and
all
those
who
attended
to
help
clarify
these
budget
items.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
your
effort
and
for
making
this
multi-faceted
functional
committee
meeting
work.
I
really
appreciate
all
that
you
do
and
with
that
I
will
adjourn
this
meeting.
Our
next
meeting
of
general
government
will
be
next
wednesday,
which
also
is
denim
day.
So
we
will
see
you
guys.