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A
C
B
D
B
A
A
And
I
am
here
if
you
will
mark
as
speaker,
fryerson
and
majority
leader
kanazero
present
as
they
arrive.
I
know
they
are
both
running
just
a
little
late
this
morning
and
welcome
committee.
Today
we
have
a
few
bill
presentations
from
peter
and
in
the
interest
of
time
we
will
move
right
to
our
presenters
issuers
for
the
public
that
are
watching.
You
can
express
any
public
comment
at
the
end
of
today's
meeting
and
for
the
members
on
this
meeting.
D
Good
morning
and
happy
tuesday
to
everyone,
thank
you
for
taking
time
to
hear
dieter's
rehabilitation
budget
on
the
agenda
this
morning.
On
behalf
of
administrator
hendren,
we
have
drazen
ellis
a
vocational
rehabilitation,
deputy
administrator
of
operations,
and
he
will
be
presenting
the
rehabilitation
budget.
Today.
D
E
Thank
you
so
much.
This
is
drazen
that
was
on
the
services
deputy
administrator
for
the
dealer's
rehabilitation
division.
E
So
today,
we'll
present,
as
I
mentioned,
the
rehabilitation
rehabilitation
divisions
budget.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
this
is,
I
guess,
for
the
sake
of
protocol.
This
is
my
first.
E
So
I
apologize
for
any,
I
guess-
fluctuations
my
functions
in
my
voice
or
any
mistakes
that
I
make
throughout
this,
but
I'm
sure
we'll
so
anyways.
Let
me
I
apologize
all
right
so
on
the
first
slide
here.
What
we
have
is
the
mission
statements
for
the
rehabilitation
division.
The
reason
why
we
have
two
different
mission
statements
has
to
do
with
the
nature
of
the
the
structure
of
the
rehabilitation
division,
the.
E
E
The
other
manner
is
by
assisting
individuals
whose
abilities
wish
financial
dependence,
which
is
gained
by
receipt
of
disability,
medical
benefit
payments
through
ssa
programs.
The
next
slide,
please,
the
structure
of
the
rehabilitation
division.
B
E
The
condition
of
things
five
is
made
up
of
five
budget
accounts.
Today,
we'll
be
only
hearing
about
three
of
them.
There
will
be
the
bureau
of
service
sublime.
The
visually
impaired
budget
account
3254,
as
well
as
budget
bureau
of
vocational
rehabilitation,
which
is
budget
account
3265..
E
Both
of
these
budget
accounts
are
pretty
similar
nature,
as
they
both
assist
in
removing
barriers
to
competitive,
integrated
employment
for
nevadans
with
disabilities,
and
they
do
this
through
service
such
as
training,
education,
work,
readiness
and
such
difference
between
the
two
is
in
the
in
the
type
of
clients
that
they
serve
bureau
services
to
the
blind
visually
appeared
through
each
name.
You
can
see
that
it
serves
individuals
with
visual
impairments
and
visuals
were
blind,
while
their
recreational
rehabilitation
serves
individuals
for
general
general
disability
category.
E
You
also
will
be
hearing
about
bureau
of
disability
education
which,
through
accurate
medical
determinations,
helps
nevadans
to
claim
social
security
benefits
next
slide.
Please.
E
So
on
this
table
here
we
wanted
to
just
present
the
general
overview
of
the
rehab's
budget.
The
first
thing
is
that
we
just
want
to
mention
that
we
will
not
be
asking
for
any
new
positions
in
in
this
biennium.
F
E
You
can
see
that
there's
only
a
couple
of
our
budget
accounts
that
receive
general
fund,
that
is,
the
bureau
budget,
account
thirty
to
sixty
five
species
bureau
of
vocational
rehabilitation,
which
is
right
there
in
the
middle
column,
as
well
as
budget
account
3254,
which
is
very
serious,
sublime
bill
visually
impaired
both
of
these
receive
about
4.81,
as
you
can
see
in
one
point
or
two,
as
percent
of
the
general
fund,
the
also
the
barrel
disability
education,
which
is
the
budget
account
3269,
is
the
other
one
we'll
be
hearing
today.
E
That
is
a
that
is
our
largest
budget
account.
It
has
148
full-time
positions
and
that
budget
account
receives
zero
general
fund.
That
is,
as
it
is,
hundred
percent
federally
funded,
see.
E
The
so,
while
y'all,
the
other
point
I
would
like
to
make
is
that,
while
the
general
found
the
fund
seems
like
a
very
small
percentage
of
these
budget
accounts
at
only
four
percent
or
one,
one
percent
is
actually
very
critical
in
how
the
function
due
to
the
general
fund,
due
to
the
nature
as
to
how
we
received
our
federal
grant
and
how
our
division
is,
is
funded.
E
So
we've
refunded
through
a
federal
match,
grant
and
the
general
fund
dollars
are
critical
component
of
that,
as
we
first
have
to
be
able
to
extend
those
and
then
based
on
them,
be
able
to
draw
down
close
to
four
dollars
in
federal
funds
and
we'll
have
some
more
slides
that
go
a
little
bit
more
deep.
The
details
in
in
explaining
that
part
so
see
if
I
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
E
All
right
so
for
the
next
few
minutes,
we'll
be
first
going
over
the
budget
accounts.
C
E
And
3254.
this
is
bureau
of
vocational
rehabilitation,
supply
and
visual.
We
will
present
these
two
budget
combined
as
they're,
both
funded
by
the
same
federal
grant
and
they're
funded
with
the
same
purpose.
The.
E
As
I
will
refer
to
both
of
these
bureaus
jointly
as
vocational
rehabilitation
and
as
and
again
as
I
mentioned,
the
goal
of
them
is
the
removal
or
mitigation
of
barriers
to
employment.
E
Also,
both
of
these
bureaus
are
part
of
the
governor's
workforce
development
system,
as
we
work
with
the
particular
constituents
in
assisting
them
in
kind
of
finding
the
employment,
and
I
think
our
services
will
be
in
even
greater
need,
as
as
the
economy
starts
recovering
from
the
covet
experience
that
we're
facing
so
next
slide.
Please.
E
D
E
Five,
we
just
wanted
to
present
the
purpose
of
the
vocational
rehabilitation.
So
again
the
budget
accounts
3265
and
54.,
and
with
this
slide
we
just
wanted
to
just
showcase
why
we
are
here
and
why
vocational
rehabilitation
matters
on
there.
You
can
see
that
the
poverty
rate,
one
of
the
reasons,
one
of
the
biggest
reasons-
is
that
the
individuals
with
disabilities
experience
much
higher
poverty
rates
two
and
a
half
times
those
of
individuals
without
disabilities.
E
So,
as
you
can
see
on
the
on
that
whole
icon
on
the
right,
the
number
of
working
asian
nevadans
with
disabilities
is
over
320
000
and
the
poverty
rate
amongst
those
is
about
is
about
25,
also
individuals
with
disabilities.
E
Experience
much
lower
employment
rates
compared
to
their
counterparts
without
disabilities,
where
over
50
percent
individual
of
individuals
with
disabilities
working
age
are,
are
not
employed,
they're
not
employed
where
that
number
is
drastically
lower
for
those
without
disabilities.
The
those
t
these
two
budget
accounts
serve
about
5
000
annually
of
individuals
of
clients.
E
Are
the
numbers
vary
throughout
between
the
years
anywhere
between
forty
five
hundred
fifty
five
hundred
we'll
we'll
be
able
to
provide
you
later
on
in
the
presentation
we'll
be
able
to
provide
you
with
a
little
bit
more
definitive
numbers
there?
The
the
other
point
I
want
to
mention
is
that
these
these
lines
are
served
by
135,
full-time
position,
state
fight
and,
most
importantly,
with
this
one.
E
One
of
the
reasons
why
we
put
this
quote
out
there
is
that
people
with
disabilities
make
up
nature
nations
and
with
that
problem
that
also
nevada's
largest
minority
group,
as
well
as
that
is
the
only
group
that
any
one
of
us
can
become
a
member
at
any
time.
E
So
we
feel
that,
with
our
advocacy
and
support
that
we
provide
with
this
group,
we
are
helping
all
of
us
as
we
are,
as
we
are
helping
also
individuals
that
we
know
who
have
disability.
We
also
help
individuals
who
we,
who
may
unfortunately
get
to
that,
become
part
of
that
category
as
well,
and
we
feel
that
our
these
two
budget
accounts
serve
great
great,
serve
a
great
cause
and
are
very
important
and
will
become
increasingly
important
in
to
nevada
to
recovery
of
the
nevada's
economy.
E
G
E
Just
numbers
and
quotes:
we
also
want
to
share
why
recompensation
division
matters
and
what
is
successful,
what
the
successful
outcomes
look
like
in
our
in
our
world.
So
as
you
meet
brandon
he's
one,
he
was
he's
one
of
our
clients
with
the
significant
physical
barriers
to
to
employment,
but.
E
That
that's
not
what
defines
him
he's
still
just
a
regular
guy
who,
like
a
regular
young
adult
who
loves
games
sports,
has
a
great
sense
of
humor
and
such
so
in
by
him
participating
in
our
customized
employment
services.
E
Those
resulted
in
in
job
exploration,
so
I
worked
work-based
experience
at
archery
range
at
wasting
heroes
in
reno,
while
working
there.
The
supervisor
of
this
location
really
fell
in
love
with
brandon
and
offered
him
a
full-time
job
they
throughout
this
pandemic.
Brandon
has
been
able
to
maintain
his
employment
at
this
employer,
and
not
just
that,
but
also
his
supervisors,
who
provided
that
he
is
one
of
the
best
range
master
that
they
have
the
only
investment.
E
Besides
the
training
and
some
of
the
other
aspects,
the
stanton
in
this
case
is
the
accommodation,
and
sometimes
we
think
about
the
accommodations,
very,
very
technical
and
costing
a
lot
of
money.
In
this
case,
the
accommodation
was
only
a
hand
operated
buzzer
instead
of
a
vessel
that
brandon
uses
to
in
in
his
employment.
So
so
some
so
we
just
wanted
to
also
show
that
some
situations
be
very
frugal
with
states
money
and
we're
sure
that
we
don't
always
just
buy
the
best
in
the
that's
out
there.
E
E
And
this
is
very
also
a
critical
slide
that
we
feel
we
wanted
to
present
and
it
is
the
return
of
investment
for
the
vocational
rehabilitation.
The
return
investment
study
was
it
was
calculated
internally
was
based
on
a
larger,
independent
study
that
was
sponsored
by
a
federal
oversight
agency
rsa.
E
The
study
measures
vr's
impact
to
state's
economies,
in
this
case
nevada's
economy.
If
I
could
just
point
out
that
for
every
general
fund
dollar
that
is
invested
by
the
states
into
the
vr
program,
the
state
saves
16.73
over
the
life
of
the
client,
so
there's
a
16
times
return
on
investment,
which
is
not
something
that's
easily
seen
out
there
in
the
in
the
competitive
world.
So
these
dollars
are
returned
the
state
in
terms
of
taxes
and
decreased
benefits
from
the
public
programs
that
these
individuals
would
benefit
from
excuse.
E
Me
also,
besides,
just
to
wrap
up
the
last
slide,
besides
the
investment
that
we
that
we
have,
that
the
state
would
provide,
and
just
as
we
move
on
from
just
the
number
perspective,
you
also
wanted
to
mention
that
now,
nevada
not
only
gets
to
save
the
money
by
investing
in
the
in
the
vr
and
doing
the
right
thing,
but
also
it
now
gets
more
productive
members
of
society
that
are
that
are
paying
into
the
tax
system
and
are
and
are
leaving
leading
fulfilled
lives.
E
So,
on
this
slide,
we'll
start
moving
on
to
into
more
of
our
budgetary
situation
and
budgetary
needs.
We
just
wanted
to
first.
E
Just
wanted
to
illustrate
the
various
pressures.
D
E
Our
agency
has
been
faced
with.
Some
of
them
are
due
to
the
the
current
epidemic,
and
some
of
them
are
a
result
of
some
kind
of
longer
trends
that
the
agency
has
been
facing.
So,
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
can
see
some
of
the
external
pressures.
Those
are
the
ones
generated
by
the.
E
By
the
situation
in
the
economy
that
we
necessarily
cannot
control
and
that
situation
in
general
economy,
with
increase
in
employment
has
led
to
reduction
general
fund,
which
is
something
that
a
lot
of
the
agencies
are
facing.
E
We
also
because
of
that
we
see
potential
significant
increase
in
new
client
applications,
and
also
we
see
potential
increase
in
number
of
returning
clients
that
maybe
we
have
found
a
job
for,
but
are
now
not
coming
back
as
their
places
will
be
where
they
have
started,
employment,
maybe
they're
closed
or
they
have
started
reduction
in
the
workforce.
E
On
the
other
hand,
we
also
have
a
lot
of
the
internal
pressures
that
we'll
be
touching
on
and
following
slides
and
some
of
those
have
to
do
with,
for
example,
pre-employment
transition
services,
which
is
a
new
requirement
that
came
out
of
workforce
innovation
act
passed
past.
It
was
passed
in
2014..
E
We
also
have
had
impact
to
our
soft
match
as
a
loss
of
the,
as
we've
had
a
lot
of
the
third
party
cooperative
arrangements.
One
of
those
was
also
a
partner
that
we've
that
we've
had
that
that
has
entered
this
arrangement
with
us
who
do
there.
Budget
has
had
to
cut
our
pretty
had
a
very
successful
program
which
was
in
in
addition
to
that.
We
also
have
have
do
due
to
the
downturn
in
economy
and
the
closure
of
a
lot
of
the
states
offices.
E
There's
been
a
significant
impact
to
also
the
agency's
blind
business
enterprise
program
as
well
and
with
that
reduction
in
some
of
the
soft
mesh
there
and
lastly,
we'll
touch
upon
how
section
10
of
the
appropriation
bill
also
is
impacting
our
funding
and
ability
to
draw
down
additional
federal
match.
So
next
slide.
E
Please
so
as
we
so
on
this
slide,
you
can
see
this
the
summary
of
the
of
the
proposed
budget
reduction
as
well
as
of
the
proposed
general
general
fund.
That's
been
allocated
to
our
division,
so
the
first
line
there
on
the
table
on
the
left
hand
side.
If
you,
if
we
start
with
the
first
line,
general
fund,
that's
been
allocated
to
a
division.
It
is
2.8
million
for
2022
and
the
state
first
lawyer,
2022
and
2.7
million
for
state
fiscal
year.
2023.
E
The
difference
between
first
and
second
row
are
the
reduction
of
the
general
fund
for
our
two
budget
accounts
65
54.,
so
that
reduction
is
437
thousand
536
respectively
and
then
the
total
of
those
two
is
is
that
image
on
the
left
so
on
the
right.
So
for
a
total
of
of
the
total
general
fund
cap
of
6.5
million
the
general,
our
two
budget
accounts
have
experienced
reduction
of
974
000,
which
is
14.9
percent
of
the
agency's
budget.
E
E
So
so,
if
we
start
with
those
first,
two
numbers
from
the
previous.
E
E
So
that's
the
first
row
the
slide
and
536
000,
so
total
reduction
for
our
agency
would
be
974
000,
which
ends
up
being
only
2.2
percent
of
total
agency's
budget,
so
95
of
the
95
million
dollars
the
subsequent
federal
funds
that
would
be
impacted
by
us
not
being
able
to
spend
these
general
funds
is
that
next
line
the
federal
section
110
grant
so
as
we
are
not
able
to,
for
example,
in
status
quo
year
2022
as
we
are
not
able
to
draw
down
437
000
general
funds
and
extend
those
on
vr
related
activities.
E
We
also
are
not
able
to
draw
down
now
1.6
million
dollars
in
the
federal
funds,
so
the
total
impact
for
state
fiscal
year
2022
is
2.2
million
dollars
or
if,
if
we
move
all
the
way
to
the
right,
the
totals
for
the
venue
would
be
974
thousand
dollars
in
general
fund
cut,
which
would
then
result
in
us
not
being
able
to
draw
down
3.6
million
dollars
in
federal
funding,
and
a
total
impact
to
the
agency
will
be
4.5
million.
E
The
important
point
here
is
that,
while
the
impact
of
the
agency
in
terms
of
budget
reduction
is
only
2.2
percent
reduction,
the
overall
cuts
because
of
the
this
federal
match
component,
it
ends
up
being
10.5
million
10
10.5
percent
of
our
of
our
budget
cuts,
and
another
question
arises
now
that
the
agency
is
not
that
our
two
bureaus
don't
have
these
funds.
Where
is
that
to
present
it?
E
And
then
you
can
see
the
impact
is
in
reduction
of
staffing,
as
well
as
impact
to
our
client
client
service
budget
account,
which
is
the
greatest
at
4.3
million.
Next
slide.
Please.
E
So
in
this
slide
we
just
have
it
broken
down
by
the
division
and
corresponding
enhancement
units,
as
the
previous
slide
summarized
them
next
slide.
E
In
the
previous
slide
in
in
slide
11,
we
discussed
the
client
service,
so
it
was
just
a
couple
of
slides
ago
and
and
that
impact,
so
we
wanted
to
also
show
you
the
historical
overview
of
the
client
service
budget
for
these
two
budget
accounts
and,
as
you
can
see
over
in
over
over
the
20-plus
year
history
in
the
past,
our
client
service
budget
has
been
a
lot
higher
and
we've
been
fighting
it
even
in
2011
to
the
tune
of
12
million
dollars,
which
was
right
after
the
recession
2008,
and
you
can
see
that,
on
the
right
hand,
side
the
budget
levels
for
this
client
service
budget
category
are
significantly
slow,
smaller
compared
to
history,
and
this
this
chart
is
not
not
adjusted
for
inflation,
so
just
in
the
real
in
the
actual
dollars,
we.
E
Even
up
to
a
third
lesson,
funding
for
this
particular
client
service
category.
Also,
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
on
this
page.
You
can
the
the
bars
that
are
there
there's
the
one
part
is
blue.
The
other
part
is
green.
The
green
part
is
the
general
fund
aspect
of
these
of
this
budget
category.
E
So
you
can
see
that
only
a
small
part
of
the
general
fund
or
smart
small
allocation
of
the
general
fund
we're
able
to
draw
down
a
significant
portion
of
the
federal
funding
and,
as
that
general
fund
has
decreased
over
the
years,
so
has
our
client
service
expenditure
budget,
the
light
blue
area
or
the
or
the
grayish
area.
E
That
is
the
budget
cuts
that
are
being
proposed
in
this
budget
in
the
governor's
budget,
and
you
can
see
even
that
without
those
budget
cuts
we're
still
we're
still
pretty
low
in
our
in
our
funding.
For
this,
for
this
categories
and
and
with
those
cuts,
we
our
funding
levels,
are
pretty
pretty
extremely
low
on
that
and
next
slide.
Please.
E
With
this
slide,
we
wanted
to
illustrate
the
potential
impact
that
the
cut
supply
services
could
have
our
clients.
These
are
not
the
actual
impacts,
because
we
don't
necessarily
know
how
many
clients
are
going
to
be
served.
E
Oh,
we
do
know
is
what
the
average
cost
per
case
is,
and
that
is
3
32
and
if
we
take
so,
if
you
look
at
the
middle
column,
for
example,
the
state
fiscal
year,
2022
the
client
services
budget
reduction
amount,
including
the
general
fund,
and
the
federal
portion
is
1.9
million,
and
if
we
divide
that
by
3
300
we
get
to
about
581
individuals
that
might
be
impacted
by
these
with
their
reduced
fundings.
B
E
D
E
Aspect,
that's
having
an
impact
on
our
on
our
budget,
and
that
is
the
inflation
and
the
inflationary
cost
of
the
services
that
we
provide.
So
with
this
slide,
these
are
some
of
the
most
common
expenditures
that
our
agency
will
have,
for
example,
assessment,
which
is
our
number
one.
E
Expenditure
over
a
thousand
individuals
have
received
assessment
services,
and
last
year,
for
example,
we
spent
1.5
million
dollars
on
on
these
on
these
particular
services
that
one
has
gone
up
about
141
percent,
also
with
passage
of
viola,
the
one
of
the
missions
or
one
of
the
goals
of
our
agency,
besides
just
providing
the
employment
to
individuals,
is
also
assisting
them
in
in
getting
into
careers,
which
requires
us
to
spend
to
help
individuals
get
into
education
so
for
your
college
degrees
or
occupational
and
vocational
training
that
you
can
see
there
in
the
bottom
right
and
these
also,
as
as
we
start
as
over
the
last
few
years,
we
have
assisted
individuals.
G
E
Our
expenses
have
also
drastically
gone
up
and
you
can
see
the
four-year
college
degree.
The
per
case
cost
is
600
percent
more
than
it
was
six
years
ago,
or
occupational
vocational
training
is
gone
up
by
200
percent.
E
E
All
right
so
this
now
we,
this
is
yet
another
aspect
that
is
having
an
impact
on
our
budget
account
and
on
our
budgets.
For
for
these
two
divisions,
that
is
the
the
new
the
new
mandate
from
the
workforce.
E
Innovation
opportunity
act,
which
was,
as
I
mentioned,
passed
in
2014
and
with
this
act,
the
vocational
reputation
division
has
been
instructed
that
they
that
we
have
to
spend
at
least
15
percent,
of
its
full
federal
section,
110
grant
for
the
provision
of
pre-employment
resistance
services
to
students,
disabilities,
and
what
I
would
like
to
stress
is
that
these
services
of
yours,
that
we
need
to
provide,
are
very
narrow
in
nature,
they're,
only
specific
to
career
exploration
and
don't
necessarily
lead
to
employment
outcomes.
E
There
is
the
reserved
these
this.
This
funds
have
to
be
reserved.
This
15
has
to
be
reserved
from
the
entire
grant
they
received
not
just
reserved
from
the
client
services,
and
also
we
are
not
able
to
spend,
spend
these
these
particular
funds
on
any
administrative
expenses,
so
they
have
to
be
spent
specifically
on
client
services
and
only
in
a
specific
specific
narrow,
focused
client
services
and
may
just
phone
a
friend
just
kidding.
C
Thank
you
jaws
and
michelle
merrill
for
the
record.
Absolutely
I
think,
what's
important
to
mention
here
as
drazen
said,
is
that
this
15
is
out
of
our
entire
allocation
and
it's
so
important,
because
there's
only
five
things
that
we
can
do
for
student
specific,
it's
job
exploration,
counseling,
work,
based
learning
experiences
which
may
happen
on
the
school
campus
for
the
student
or
off.
C
We
provide
counseling
and
opportunities
for
enrollment
in
comprehensive
transition
or
post-secondary
programs
to
make
sure
that
students
with
disabilities
are
aware
of
their
post-secondary
opportunities
for
college
and
vocational
training
and
workplace
readiness
to
develop
their
social
skills
and
independent
living
skills.
Because
a
lot
of
these
students
are,
you
know,
are
very
young
starting.
C
You
know
14
15
16,
and
they
have
none
of
those
experiences
and
we
want
them
to
make
well-informed
decisions
about
their
futures
and,
most
importantly,
in
my
opinion,
is
the
instruction
in
self-advocacy,
because
all
people,
not
just
people
with
disabilities,
but
all
people
need
to
understand
their
rights
and
have
that
self-motivation
for
their
futures.
And
so
that's
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
priets
does,
and
I
think
that
we
can't
understate
the
impact,
because
taking
this
15
off
the
top
greatly
reduces
what
is
left
for
the
balance
of
the
population
that
we
serve.
E
So,
as
michelle
has
mentioned,
as
we
talked
about
already
these,
this
15
is
not
15
off
of
our
client
services
but
15
off
of
the
entire
federal
grand
award
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
as
we
go
back
to
that
same
slide
that
we've
seen
earlier,
the
general
client
services
slide.
But
this
time
the
we
wanted
to
present
the
client
service
budget
they
spend
on
general
population
versus
the
general,
the
client
service
part
of
the
budget.
E
That's
spent
on
the
pre-ads
population,
which
is
in
an
orange
part
of
the
the
bar
graph,
and
you
can
see
that
we
started
spending
for
that
that
those
expenses
can
be
seen
starting
with
2015.
E
E
That's
that
we
are
that
the
agency
is
able
to
spend
on
the
entire
population
of
the
clients
that
we
serve
now
in,
for
example,
in
our
budget
in
2021,
we
only
have
two
million
dollars
available
for
general
population,
where
the
remainder
of
that
is
only
available
for
the
previous
clients
next
slide.
Please.
E
And
go
back
to
this
the
same
concept,
the
point.
We
also
want
to
point
out
that
the
priest
expenditures
are
now
capturing
over
or
are
becoming
over
50
of
the
client
services
budget.
So,
while
it's
only
15
of
the
federal
grant,
they're
becoming
larger
larger
percent
of
this
general
client
services,
so
all
of
the
5
000
plus
clients
that
we
that
we
serve
per
year,
minus
frigates
are
have
to
be
served
out
of
this
much
smaller
part.
E
All
right
so
with
this
one,
we
just
want
to
illustrate
in
general
how
the
the
federal
match
program
or
how
does
a
federal
match,
grant
work
so
for
every
dollar
that
the
state
that
the
state
spends
that
uses
using
the
non-federal
match
source
of
funds.
We
are
able
to
draw
down
close
to
four
dollars
in
federal
funds,
so
the
exact
formula
that's
used
is
21.3
percent
of
the
federal
match
and
for
every
one
of
those
dollars
is
spent.
They
just
usable
drawdown
corresponding
17.7
percent
of
the
federal
grant.
E
In
our
prior
biennium,
this
was
the
makeup
of
that
non-federal
match
the
largest
portion
has
been.
It
was,
has
been
a
general
fund
at
58
of
that
overall
match.
You
also
are
able
to
use
the
blind
business
enterprise
nevada
program,
some
of
their
expenditures.
Our
federal
agency
has
designated
as
the
expenditures
which
are
allowable
to
be
a
soft
match,
so
some
of
the
activities
that
that
band
program
has
were
able
to
draw
down
the
federal
funds,
for
we
also
have
the
third
party
copy
cooperative
arrangements.
E
That
is
also
that
we
are
also
able
to
use
the
soft
match
and
in
the
prior
venue
that
was
14
percent
of
our
of
our
overall
world,
not
match
next
slide
and
due
to
the
current
covet
situation
and
and
the
situation
the
economy
that
has
resulted
in
us
losing
some
of
these
third-party
copter
arrangements,
most
notably,
our
biggest
loss,
is
to
our
voice
program,
which
was
with
washer
school
comedy
school
washer
school
district.
E
E
And
one
of
the
decisions
that
that
we
had
to
make
is
to
reduce,
cancel
our
cancel
three
of
our
third-party
copy
arrangements,
as
we
found
that
the
expenditures
for
those-
and
it
was
as
we've
done-
the
return
on
investment
calculations
on
those
then
they're
costing
about
two
to
four
hundred
more
than
our
general
general
cases.
E
C
Thank
you
jaws
and
michelle
merrill
for
the
record
as
draws
and
said,
we
were
saddened
when
we
lost
our
third-party
cooperative
arrangement
with
washoe
county
school
district,
our
voice
program.
It
was
our
flagship
program
and
it
was
certainly
our
largest
opportunity
to
spend
our
pre-services
funds,
but
we
understand
our
partners
had
to
make
difficult
choices
too,
as
did
we,
and
so
with
the
loss
of
that
one,
it
forced
us
to
meet
the
other
budget
cuts.
C
We
had
to
look
at
our
remaining
third
party
cooperatives
with
the
community
college
system,
tmcc
wnc
and
the
clark
county
school
district
with
our
jeep
program
and
as
drawson
said,
these
were
valued
programs,
but
in
these
times
you
have
to
look
at
numbers
and
sadly,
the
cost
to
these
were
200
to
400
percent,
more
per
individual
participating
than
in
our
traditional
case
work.
So
those
difficult
choices
had
to
be
made,
and
that
leaves
us
where
we're
at
now
trying
to
go
forward
with
the
remaining
budget.
E
Thank
you
michelle,
and
this
is
jose
for
the
record.
So
with
this
I
guess
the
place
that
we
end
up
being
is
that
we
general
fund
and
then
soft
match,
are
becoming
much
more
important
and
bigger
parts
of
this
non-federal
match
that
we
have
and
our
biggest
big
concern.
Besides,
the
general
funds
is
the
best
soft
match
which,
while
budgeted
at
about
35
percent
of
our
match,
we
feel
due
to
this.
Due
to
these
economic
conditions.
E
We
may
not
be
able
to
to
achieve
the
economic
activity
in
that
program
that
will
result
in
in
creating
that
35
next
slide,
and
this
is
a
slide
that
talks
about
the
blind
business
enterprise
program.
So,
while
we're
not
talking
about
the
blind
business
enterprise
program
in
terms
of
their
budget
in
this
presentation,
the
the
activities
around
the
program
directly
impact
the.
B
E
Of
service
to
blind,
as
well
as
their
vocational
rehabilitation,
as
I
mentioned
those
activities
in
that
in
that
budget,
that
those
businesses
create
some
of
those
activities
could
be
used
as
a
match
and
in
our
normal
year,
where
those
businesses
generate
about
9.3
million
in
in
gross
annual
gross
revenue.
Due.
E
Enclosure
of
all
these
businesses,
they've
seen
about
21
percent
30
over
30
decrease
in
kobe
19
impact
for
in
year
2020
in
2021.
We,
while
we
do
see
some
postcode
recovery
and
then
we're
on
track
of
hitting
about
7.3
million
in
gross
revenue,
we're
still
unsure
when
we
will
return
to
that
normal
c
in
terms
of
the
annual
gross
revenue.
Part
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
locations
of
the
businesses
they're
located
in
in
usually
public
locate
public
sites.
E
As
more
agencies
are
struggling
with
their
budgets,
they
may
see
cuts
in
staffing
which
may
result
cuts
in
office
spaces
and
certainly
throughout
the
state.
These
will
then
have
negative
impact
on
our
blind
businesses,
because
now
some
of
these
businesses
may
need
to
be
closed.
So
as
far
as
the
impact
of
kobe
don't
blind
business
enterprise
program,
I
think
we
won't
need
to
be
able
to
see
that
after
a
few
years,
because
it
will
take
a
few
years-
probably
in
our
estimates-
for
everything
to.
E
E
So
on
this,
this
is
yet
another
way
that
our
budget
has
been
impacted
and
it's
been
impacted
for
for
a
few
years.
So
this
is
here
we're
talking
about
the
appropriations
bill
or
section
10
restriction
in
the
appropriation
bill,
which
is
also
what's
known
as
section
seven
in
the
private
prior
years.
I
believe
this
was
passed
in
2000,
12
I'll,
just
briefly
read
through
the
to
the
actual
language.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
also
referred
to
as
section
seven.
E
So
the
specific
language
from
the
prohibition
or
or
the
restriction
of
this
of
this
bill
says
that
if
an
agency
removes
money
from
in
from
other
source,
the
portion
provided
by
the
preparation
from
the
state
general
fund
must
be
decreased
to
the
extent
of
the
receipts
of
the
money
from
other
sources
is
exceeded.
But
such
a
decrease
must
not
jeopardize
their
seat
of
such
money,
as
is
to
be
received
from
other
sources.
E
So
we
feel
that
this
the
passage
of
this
bill,
it
restricts
the
agency
in
a
few
ways
where
now
we
have
a
two-year
vr
grant
that,
due
to
this
restriction,
we
are
able
to
fully
meet
or
extend.
One
of
the
reasons
is
because
of
the
version
of
general
fund
that
extended,
we
have
a
lot
of
associated
federal
funds
that
could
have
been
drawn
down.
Also,
I
mean
this.
This
particular
restriction
minimize
our
ability
to
carry
carry
forward
federal
funds.
E
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
our
grant
allowances
for
two
years,
but
as
we
have
to
spend
all
our
money
in
in
12
month
period,
we
are
not
able
to
fully
take
advantage
of
that.
The
the
additional
part
is
logistics
of
spending
funds
in
a
12-month
period
due
to
the
state
processes.
E
So
here
we're
talking
about
whether
it's
procurement
process,
us
getting
a
contract
in
place,
could
take
anywhere
between
three
to
six
months.
Us
getting
a
work
program
done
if
we
do
have
funds
that
we
received
can
also
take
couple
two
to
six
months.
So
if
these
funds
are
received
close
to
the
end
of
the
state
fiscal
year,
we
get
to
a
place
where
we're
not
able
to
quickly
extend
the
funds
that
we
have
to
take
to
fully
take
advantage
of
all
of
our
general
fund.
E
So
we
always
end
up
in
in
the
loss
of
state
state
and
federal
grant
funds.
Michelle
did
you
have
any
answer
to
that
on
this
item.
E
Thanks
so
much
next
slide,
so
indeed
this
slide.
It
helps
illustrate
some
of
the
impact
of
that
section,
10
funds.
So
this
slide,
which
you
see
the
orange
part,
is
the
federal
grant
that
was
awarded.
That's
been
awarded
to
our
to
our
agency
over
the
last
close
to
30
years
close
20
years
apologize.
E
And
the
blue
line
presents
the
funds
that
have
been
extended
and,
as
you
can
see,
in
the
first
in
from
2002
2008,
the
agency
has
been
extending
pretty
close
to
what's
been
awarded
by
the
federal
government
besides
federal
fiscal
year,
2009
part
of
that
was
due
to
receipt
of
our
funds
and
the
other
parties
due
to
some
of
the
cuts,
as
as
the
recession
of
2008
hit,
and
then
for
a
couple
more
years
with
2010
and
11,
we've
been
able
to
spend
close
to
the
full
amount
of
the
federal
grade
and
with
the
passage
of
of
section
7
in
2012,
you
can
see
these
two
lines
slowly
diverging
in
some
of
our
recent
efforts
in
2016-17-18,
we've
been
able
to
start
closing
this
gap
slowly
with
the
introduction
of
some
other
non-federal
funds
match
sources.
E
Part
of
that
was
third-party
copyright
arrangements.
Part
of
that
was
increasing
activity
that
the
ben
program
has.
However,
due
to
the
current
situation,
with
the
copy
that
raised
been
experiencing,
we
are
estimating
that
the
federal
grants
that
that's
going
to
be
awarded
for
us
is
going
to
keep
growing
according
to
some
of
our
calculations.
The
grant
projected
to
be
received
in
federal
year
21
is
going
to
would
be
about
31
million
dollars.
E
However,
as
you
can
see,
by
this
chart,
we're
going
to
be
able,
we
will
increasingly
not
be
able
to
meet
meet
or
extend
receive
that
full
grant.
That
could
be
then
brought
into
nevada
and
put
into
nevada's
economy
next
slide,
please
so
so
what
does
all
of
this
mean.
E
E
We
will,
with
the
current
level
of
funding
the
agency,
will
not
be
able
to
fully
serve
all
the
individuals
that
will
be
eligible
for
our
services,
especially
as
we
look
for
an
increasing
number
of
clients
due
to
the
current
economic
climate.
So
a
state
vocational
rehabilitation
agency
is
required
to
implement
an
order
of
selection
and
anticipates
they
will
not
have
sufficient
fiscal
and
our
personnel
resources
to
fully
serve
all
of
our
clients.
E
So
what
this
means
is
that
we
would
end
up
having
a
waitlist
for
our
clients
that
wait
list
will
have
to
be
organized
by
categories.
It
also
means
that
they
would
only
based
on
those
categories.
You
will
only
be
able
to
serve
individuals
who
have
a
significant
who
have
multiple
significant
barriers
to
employment
and
disabilities.
E
And
and
the
other
huge
impact
of
that
is
that
having
by
having
these
bleeding
bliss
by
only
reduce
by
only
being
serving
a
very
narrow
scope
of
the
guidance,
we
no
longer
end
up
being
a
tool
in
governor's
toolbox
in
helping
the
nevada's
economy
get
back
to
work.
As
now,
we
will
not
be
able
to
serve
this
general
population
of
individuals
abilities,
and
we
will
only
have
to
focus
on
those
with
the
most
significant
disabilities.
E
E
Would
go
on
the
waiting
list
or
be
able
to
maybe
receive
services
from
some
other
sources
open
to
general
public
out
there
in?
According
to
also
our
estimates
that
we
said
we
would
have
somewhere
around
1200
people
on
the
waiting
list.
If
this
was
to
be
implemented,
michelle
with
ernie
other
points
you
were
looking
to
make
on
this
slide.
C
Yes,
strauss
and
thank
you
michelle
merrill
for
the
record,
never
in
the
history
of
the
nevada
vr
program
have
we
been
in
the
position
of
looking
at
or
facing
an
order
of
selection.
C
How
many
major
life
activities
or
functions
are
impaired
by
the
disability
two
or
more
one
or
more,
creating
that
priority,
and
when
you
think
about
our
ability
to
serve
5,
000
people
give
or
take
in
an
average
year
the
inability
to
serve
1200
most
likely
off
the
top
is
a
devastating
number
for
us
and
again
that
means
that
many
more
people
that
we
have
a
reduced
likelihood
of
helping
seek
employment,
helping
achieve
you
know
competitive
and
integrated
employment,
keeping
them
from
benefiting
or
receiving
other
services
social
security
services.
Things
like
that
other
other
opportunities.
C
So
this
is
a
huge
impact
for
us
and
states
do
a
lot
of
things
to
try
to
avoid
going
into
order
of
selection.
No
state
sees
order
of
selection
as
something
welcome
in
2018,
67
percent
of
all
vr
programs,
nationally
16
out
of
24,
were
in
order
of
selection
and
2
out
of
24.
Blind
programs
are
only
8
percent
and
20
out
of
32
combined
programs,
meaning
the
voc
rehab
program
and
the
blind
services
program.
C
Having
combined
funding
were
in
order
of
selection,
so
you
can
see
that
states
really
try
to
avoid
it,
because
it
is
not
uncommon
for
states
who
go
into
order
of
selection
to
struggle
to
get
back
out
of
it.
Some
states
have
been
in
order
of
selection
since
the
1970s,
and
you
can
see
how
that
would
be
a
real
deficit
to
to
people
with
disabilities
in
their
program.
C
E
Thanks
so
much
michonne,
the
other
point
also
that
I
want
to
make
that
was
related
to
the
previous
slide.
What
we
propose
is
this
is
drastically
for
the
record
again.
I
apologize
they
proposed
for
the
agency
to
be
added
to
the
exception.
E
The
list
of
exempted
agencies
in
in
that
section
10
bill
that
allows
the
agency
to
carry
over
unspent
funds
from
the
prior
year
and
and
for
them
to
only
be
carried
once,
and
that
that
we
feel
that
adding
that
exceptional
language
was
maybe
something
that
could,
while
not
not
adding
any
additional
without
adding
any
additional
general
fund
to
the
agency,
we'll
be
able
to
fully
extend
the
general
fund,
that's
allocated
to
us
and
and
extend
it
fully
for
that
year.
E
Also
it
will,
it
would
just
create
a
lot.
It
would
allow
us
to
have
a
lot
more
flexibilities
with
our
federal
grant.
That
now
could
be
expanded
to
a
two-year
grant
and
we
will
be
able
to
mitigate
some
of
these
negative
impacts
of
covet
next
fight.
Please-
and
I
just
wanted
to-
I
guess-
bring
us
back
again
to
the
meaning
of
all
of
this.
We
talk
a
lot
about
numbers
and
and
charts,
and
we
we
don't
want
these
presentations
to
turn
into
something
that
that
becomes
very
sterile.
E
E
So,
as
you
can
see
on
there,
some
of
them
are
due
to
autism
and
specific
learnings
abilities.
Joey
is
one
of
the
visuals
who
also
went
through
our
pre-employment
transition
services
and
participate
in
the
project
search,
which
is
a
partnership
that
we
have
with
vr
clark,
county
school
district
and
standards
hospital
and
in
through
this
project
search
joy
was
paired
with
a
with
a
job
that
perfectly
suited
his
personality
and
he
suited
his
location
to
want
to
help
people.
E
E
And
this
is
the
only
enhancement
that
we
have
for
this
budget
account
and
it
is
very
small
enhancement
of
only
10
11
11
000
respectively
for
each
budget
year.
This
enhancement
is
there
to
reclassify
administrative
assistant,
one
position
to
our
rehabilitation,
tech,
three
position,
this
tech,
three
rehabilitation,
technician
three-
would
supervise
all
of
the
rehabilitation
technicians
too
that
the
rehab
division
has.
E
One
of
the
reasons
why
we
are
wanting
this
particular
change
is
is
is
to
improve
the
efficiency
of
our
agency.
The
the
way
that
this
particular
enhancement
would
do,
that
is
by
removing
supervision
from
something
that
the
counselor
rehabilitation
counselors
have
to
do
so,
instead
of
them
spending
a
lot
of
their
time.
In
writing,
evaluations
doing
the
training
for
these
rehabilitation
technicians,
they
will
be
able
to
focus
most
of
their
time
on
serving
our
clients.
E
E
B
C
C
As
he
said,
you
know
we're
facing
increased
caseloads
as
we
anticipate
people
coming
back
and
seeking
employment
postcovid,
and
we
want
to
be
best
positioned
and
having
our
counselors
do
a
lot
of
training,
because
technicians
are
a
very
technical
role
and
it
requires
a
lot
of
intensive
training
and
it's
a
statewide
effort
and
there's
evaluations
to
be
written,
and
it
was
not
the
best
use
of
our
counselor's
time
and
we
really
want
our
counselors,
who
are
our
most
senior
and
trained
staff,
to
be
able
to
focus
on
the
day-to-day
needs
of
their
clients
and
getting
those
people
employed
and
part
of
the
whole
system
of
getting
people
with
disabilities
into
the
workforce.
C
C
We
really
think
that
that's
going
to
free
up
our
counselors
and
we
think
that
that's
a
best
practice,
as
has
been
seen
in
other
states,
and
we
recognize
that
you
know
only
asking
for
one
at
this
point
probably
seems
like
a
stretch
and
in
truth,
we
probably
would
do
better
with
one
in
each
part
of
the
state,
we're
piloting
that
so
that
we
can
see
the
effectiveness
and
we
know
that
it's
working,
and
we
know
that
this
would
be
our
best
practice
going
forward.
Thank
you.
E
We
would
like
to
take
any
questions
for
those
two
at
this
point
and
then
also
proceed
with
the
the
few
files
that
we
have
for
the
budget.
3269.
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
my
question
is
specific
to
the
order
of
preference,
and
I
think
that
is
specific
to
the
budget.
32
60.
A
I
think
it's
32
54,
although
I
think
in
the
order
of
selection,
although
I
think
it
might
cross
around
some
other
budget.
So
is
it
okay?
If
I
ask
questions
about
that
now,
chairwoman,
or
is
this
the
right
place,
you
can
go
ahead
and
ask
questions
since
both
were
presented
together,
we
can
go
between
3254
and
32.65.
A
E
Thank
you
miss.
Let
me
just
trick
question
penis
thompson.
Let
me
just
thanks
for
the
question
chair
monroe.
May
I
answer
the
question.
E
Thank
you
so
much
so
this
is
jose
nellis
for
the
record.
Yes,
that
is,
you
are
correct
that
this
isn't
the
first
time
that
nevada
would
is
facing
a
potential
for
being
on
orders
election.
I'm
going
to
defer
the
question
to
michelle
merrill.
I
think
she's
going
to
be
able
to
answer
it.
A
lot
more
wholesomely.
A
And
I
I
imagine,
since
we
haven't
been
in
a
place
before
where
we've
had
to
consider
or
haven't,
had
proposed
to
the
legislature
budget
cuts
this
deep
and
of
this
nature
that
we
we
haven't.
Had
the
administration
go
through
this
exercise
of
actually
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
prioritize
the
recipients
and
how
to
prioritize
services
to
our
most
needy.
A
C
Thank
you
vice
chairman
thompson.
This
is
michelle
merrill
for
the
record.
You
are
correct.
There
is
a
selection
process
that
has
to
happen,
and
that
is
a
prescribed
process
from
the
federal
government
and,
as
I
said,
it's
based
on
there'll
be
three
priority
categories.
C
The
first
priority
category
is
for
individuals
with
the
most
significant
disabilities,
as
evidenced
by
a
severe
physical
or
mental
impairment
that
seriously
limits
two
or
more
functional
capacities
and
creates
a
barrier
to
their
employment
and
requires
multiple
services
over
an
extended
period
of
time.
C
So
a
functional
limitation
would
be
like
ability
to
ambulate
independently
in
the
community
or
individual,
have
an
independence
in
making
decisions
or
there's
many
major
life
activities
that
could
be
impacted.
But
again
it's
either.
Two
or
one
and
depending
upon
that
priority,
that's
how
we
rank
them
in
service
and
the
counselors
are
the
ones
when
they
meet
them
at
the
time
of
their
eligibility
determination,
the
counselor
looks
at
the
medical
evidence
provided
and
determines
that
category.
C
You
know
how
severely
disabled
is
the
person
in
our
system
and
that's
how
they
are
ranked
in
terms
of
receiving
services,
the
third
category
and-
and
it's
probably
categories
two
and
three
honestly
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
this.
So
it's
not
saying
that
they're,
not
all
people
with
disabilities.
It's
just
saying
that
they
are
not
as
severe
as
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
guaranteed
first
opportunity
to
those
services.
A
Think
of
a
more
heartbreaking
exercise
that
you
all
would
have
to
do
and
that
we
have
to
consider
than
something
like
this.
Can
you
tell
me
the
order
of
selection?
Is
that
something
that
we
see
a
lot
of
states
use
it's
the
first
time
in
our
history
since
1973
or
probably
1974
after
it
got
the
policy
implemented
that
we're
doing
this,
but
does
it
tend
to
be
a
common
practice
among
other
states.
C
Thank
you
vice
chair,
michelle
merrill
for
the
record.
As
I
said,
our
statistics
showing
from
2018
show
that
for
for
vr
programs
independently
nationally
about
67
percent
of
them
are
in
order
of
selection
and
combined
programs.
Voc,
rehab
and
blind
services
about
60
three
percent
are
are
in
order
of
selection
and
in
blind
only
programs
there's
only
eight
percent
blind
programs
tend
to
not
have
that
same
challenge
fiscally.
C
But
although
it
looks
like
a
little
better
than
half,
I
know
from
my
24
years
in
service
to
voc
rehab
that
it
is
something
that
we
have
always
avoided
tooth
and
nail.
It's
never
something
that
we've
welcomed
it's
something.
We've
tried
as
hard
as
we
can
to
stay
away
from,
because
we
never
want
to
say
that
somebody
can't
have
our
services
when
they
come
to
our
door.
A
A
Thank
you.
Next,
we
have
senator
dunder
loop,
who
will
be
followed
by
senator
ki.
B
Keffer
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
have
a
couple
questions
and
I
agree
with
assemblywoman.
This
is
exactly
where
we
need
assistance
and
and
we're
cutting,
and
so
it's
just
really
tough.
What
is
the
impact
of
the
agency's
programs
of
maintaining
the
vacant
rehabilitation
manager?
One
positions,
as
recommended
by
the
governor
over
the
21-23
biennium,
and
I'm
talking
in
reference
to
budget.
B
E
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
question.
This
is
justin
bieber
administrator
the
rehabilitation
division,
michelle
mel.
Would
you
mind
weighing
in
on
that
question
by
senator
bandera.
C
Certainly,
thank
you,
michelle
merrill
for
the
record
to
you
senator
the
impact
to
the
loss
of
the
rehab
manager,
one,
although
it
does
sound
deeply
impactful.
I
can
tell
you
that
it's
not
a
position
that
we
had
had
for
very
long
and
because
of
vacancies.
C
It
had
not
been
filled
completely
for
very
long
so
and
it's
been
frozen
for
quite
a
while,
so
that
impact
has
somewhat
been
absorbed,
and
I
think
that
in
these
times
of
challenge
we're
trying
to
look
at
the
places
where
we
can
make
those
cuts
where
they
will
have
the
least
impact.
We
still
have
the
rehab
manager,
two
position,
which
has
been
a
consistent
position,
and
this
is
the
rehab
manager.
C
One
was
in
our
southern
district
and
we
have
a
very
strong
person
in
our
district
manager,
two
position
and
we
have
a
very
strong
bureau
chief,
that's
also
in
that
same
office.
So
we
feel
that
this
is
probably
the
best
place
to
hold
that
position,
and
it
was
also
a
position
that
served
our
in
some
way.
We
were
hoping
that
it
would
serve
to
some
supervision
in
our
blind
services
program,
but
that
program
being
so
small
compared
to
the
voc
rehab
program
right
now.
C
C
C
That
number
would
go
up
to
581
and
even
worse
in
2023,
where
it's
potentially
at
719
and
those
numbers
could
be
better
or
worse,
depending
upon
the
people
that
come
to
us,
and
we
just
won't
know
that,
based
on
how
the
economy
turns
around
as
the
pandemic
eases.
B
Okay,
and
just
just
as
a
side
note
on
on
slide
15,
where
you
talked
about
the
increasing
cost
of
services,
I'm
I'm
particularly
looking
at
a
four-year
college
degree,
rehabilitation,
technology,
transportation,
all
that
training
the
assessments,
I'm
I'm
looking
at
that
do
do
our
do
your
clients,
our
community
members,
have
another
place
any
place
else.
They
can
go
if,
if
I
have
a
high
school
degree,
but
I
need
rehabilitation,
training
or
I
need
some
sort
of
training
to
go
further
into
some
other
position.
C
Thank
you
senator
john
darrell,
michelle
merrill
for
the
record.
I
I
think
that
that
is
what
the
federal
financial
aid
program
is.
C
Certainly
for,
and
our
population
certainly
applies
for
those
we
see
those
as
first
dollar
funds
whenever
somebody
comes
to
us
and
higher
education
is
a
part
of
their
individualized
plan
for
employment,
but
I
think
that
education
is
just
one
part
of
it
and
though
our
graphic
here
is
showing
you
that
it
is,
is
going
up
remarkably
610
over
six
years
for
a
four-year
college
degree,
that's
not
the
only
cost
of
the
case
and
for
our
college
program
clients.
C
I
think
that
our
average
case
cost
of
the
3000
figure
is
actually
probably
low,
because
there's
many
other
things
that
go
into
it.
There's
going
to
be
transportation,
costs
and
assistive
technology
costs
there
may
be
outside
medical
treatment
or
evaluations.
C
There
could
be
a
gamut
of
things,
tuition
that
isn't
covered
for
different
reasons
why
a
person
may
have
exhausted
their
financial
aid,
endless
number
of
things
that
a
person
would
need
if
it
was
just
the
tuition
payment
alone.
That
would
be
one
thing,
so
I
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
that
really
replicates
folk
rehab
to
answer
your
question:
there
are
disability
resource
centers
on
colleges,
camp
college
campuses,
but
they
don't
provide
the
the
fully
fleshed
out
services
that
we
do.
Counseling
and
guidance,
I
think
is-
is
irreplaceable
that
our
counselors
provide.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
chair
for
allowing
me
to
ask.
B
Chair.
Thank
you,
mr
ellis.
Thank
you,
miss
merrell
for
your
presentation.
If
I
could
look
really
quickly
at
slide
13,
it
shows
sort
of
the
precipitous
drop.
C
Of
expenditures
in
your
client
services,
category
from
12
million
dollars
a
a
decade.
B
E
Thank
you,
mr
peacock.
This
is
ross
and
ellis
for
the
record,
so
we,
our
our
grand
formula,
is
to
is
70.7
in
federal
match
that
we
would
draw
down
for
the
for
any
non-federal
match
that's
put
in.
We
will
be
able
to
get
back
to
that
answer.
I
think
right
now.
E
We
just
need
to
do
some
quick
calculation,
and
we
can
get
back
to
you
on
that.
We
definitely
I
don't
know
that
we
will
be
able
to
reach
that
the
levels
of
of.
B
E
And
12,
but
we
would
definitely
significantly
come
closer
to
that,
just
as
a
quick
math,
most
likely
to
be
able
to
get
to
about
2013
levels.
But
we
can
definitely
answer
that
question
so,
but
that
drop.
F
B
E
This
is
russian
elsewhere,
the
record
that
is
correct,
yeah.
This
is
not
due
the
drop
in
clients-
it's
it's,
it's
more
more
so
due
to
not
having
a
sufficient
general
fund
to
be
able
to
draw
down
the
the
federal
funding
available.
The
other
way
is
that
what
we've,
what
we've
done
over
the
since
2012,
as
we've
seen
the
general
fund
drop,
is
find
some
other
creative
ways
that
we
could
use
as
a
match
to
be
able
to
draw
down
additional
federal
funds.
Part
was
that
part
of
that
was
through
third-party
copyright
arrangements.
E
We've
been
able
to
draw
down,
create
cert
certain
per
say,
profit
almost
out
of
managing
that
program,
and
then
we've
been
able
to
use
those
funds
in
client
services,
also
some
of
the
activities
that
took
place
in
the
blind,
bins,
enterprise
program
and
us
working
with
that
program
and
kind
of
making
it
more
robust,
more
increasing
the
the
number
of
sites
that
that
program
has
has
also
created
some
soft
match
that
due
to
which
we've
been
able
to
drive,
draw
down
some
of
that.
E
So
you
are
correct
that
that
the
solely
the
general
fund
cuts
we're
not
the
the
reason
why
they're
dropped,
but
we've
been
able
to
kind
of
supplement.
Some
of
that.
B
If
that
and
the
new
wheel
mandate,
that
requires
expenditure
of
at
least
15
percent
of
the
grant
awards
for
pre-employment
transition
services,
can
you
talk
a
little.
B
F
E
B
E
To
michelle,
then
she'll
be
able
to
answer
it
more
fully
so
that
to
answer
the
first
part,
the
vo
mandate
kicked
in
starting
2015,
our
federal
partners,
the
rehabilitation
services
administration
has
worked
with
us
over
the
last
few
years.
On
that
particular
expenditures.
The
when
the
when
the
viola
act
was
passed.
It
stated
that
the
state
need
needed
to
reserve
and
extend
15
of
its
of
its
section,
110
federal
grant
and
that's
15
of
the
whole
grant.
E
E
Initially,
we
haven't
been
able
to
spend
that
full
15
and
we've
been
working
on
on
that
over
over
the
course
of
over
these
last
few
years
and,
as
you
can
see,
and
the
expectation
from
the
federal
government
is
that
we
will
reach
that
15
percent
in
the
upcoming
years.
So
what?
While?
E
So?
I
guess
that
I
think
that
answers
the
first
part
I'll
turn
this
over
to
michelle
merrill
for
for
the
second
portion
of
the
question.
As
far
as
the
impact
of
the
tpcas
and
how
we
how
we
may
be
able
to
extend
those
prius
dollars
now,.
C
Thank
you,
senator
kiker,
michelle
merrill
for
the
record,
absolutely
the
loss
of
our
third
party
cooperatives,
which
is
directly
contributed
to
the
coveted
pandemic
and
the
difficult
choices
our
partner
had
to
make
in
washoe
county.
We
accept,
don't
love,
but
we
accept
and
we
are
moving
forward
and
that
resulted
in
the
difficult
choice
we
had
to
make
with
our
partners
at
sharky
meadows,
community
college
and
western
nevada
college.
Again,
as
I
explained
before,
because
of
the
high
cost
of
those
at
the
per
client
level.
C
We
just
had
to
make
those
unfortunate
tough
decisions,
so
we
could
serve
more
people
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
question
about
what
are
we
doing
after
the
fact-
the
way
that
we're
trying
to
spend
our
our
pre-x
money,
our
clean
climate
transition
services-
money
now
has
been
greatly
hindered
in
covet,
as
you
can
imagine,
because
students
certainly
learn
best
face
to
face,
and
traditionally
our
pre-employment
transition
services
were
delivered
face-to-face.
But
in
the
pandemic
we've
had
to
do
everything
virtually
we've.
C
We've
resulted
to
doing
a
lot
of
pre-ets
camps
camps
that
will
focus
on
between
one
and
five
of
those
pre-employment
transition
services
and
do
a
deep
dive
with
a
small
group
of
students.
We
were
able
to
provide
three
camps
virtually
since
march
of
2020
when
the
pandemic
began
and
that
benefited
60
students.
Sadly,
we
had
to
cancel
10
camps
that
we
had
on
planned
for
the
summer
that
were
going
to
be
delivered
in
person.
You
know,
and
two
of
those
were
converted
into
the
virtual
camps
that
we
ultimately
did.
Three.
C
The
good
news,
though,
is
that
we
have
12
new
camps
that
we're
bringing
forward
this
summer
as
well
of
our
as
well
as
our
summer
youth
internship
program,
where
we
work
to
to
bring
vr
transition
students
into
state
offices,
so
they
can
have
the
experience
that
we
all
experience
on
a
day-to-day
basis
of
working
for
the
state
and
seeing
that
that
might
trigger
something
in
them
for
their
futures,
which
we
hope
will
play
into
the
use
of
our
700
hour
program
which
we're
very
proud
of,
and
we
still
have
in
clark
county,
though
we
are
losing
our
jeep
program.
C
As
I
discussed,
we
still
have
a
number
of
programs
that
we're
doing.
We
have
our
post
program
post-secondary
opportunities
for
students
in
transition
in
clark
county.
We
have
job
discovery
program
in
clark
county
as
well.
That's
through
opportunity.
Village
post
is
through
clark
county.
We
have
the
pace
program
which
is
on
assigned
clark,
county,
high
school
campuses
and
again
it's
a
supported
and
competitive
employment
model,
giving
them
work-based
learning
experiences,
job
discovery
2,
which
is
which
is
the
next
phase
of
jdp
one.
C
We
have
project
search,
which
is
one
of
our
flagship
programs
that
takes
place
in
hospital
settings,
giving
these
students
a
rotation
through
the
different
programs
in
the
hospital.
Some
clerical
work
custodial
work,
warehousing
food
service
and
it
gives
them
exposure
to
a
medical
setting,
because
we
know
that
that
is
one
of
our
most
in
demand.
Jobs
in
nevada
is
anything
in
the
medical
field
and
your
another
program
called
yes,
which
is
for
11th
and
12th
graders,
your
educational
success
and
it's
a
college
of
vocational
program
on
csn
campuses.
C
So
we're
striving
really
hard
to
find
things
that
are
meaningful,
that
we
can
do
to
replace
those
losses,
and
we
are
constantly
in
development
of
new
things,
we're
in
the
process
of
working
on
something
with
nevada
hope,
which
is
a
program
in
las
vegas
to
get
young
people
from
high
school
straight
into
a
boot
camp
program
to
help
them
become
certified
nurses
assistants,
so
that
they
can
go
into
medical
professions
and
we're
creating
an
opportunity
for
stacked
credentials.
C
B
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
I
certainly
understand
your
passion.
This
is
probably
not
the
budget
that
you
want
to
present,
probably
not
the
one
that
we
want
to
pass
either.
So,
let's
figure
out
ways
to
flush
it
out
a
little
bit.
Give
you
more
good
stuff,
like
all
that
that
you
just
mentioned
to
talk
about.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
following
right,
along
behind
senator
kitt
kepper.
So
I
was
going
right
where
you
were
going
senator
yeah.
We
we
should
flush
this
out
and
have
a
little
bit
more
conversation,
and
I
was
trying
to
remember
some
of
the
conversations
that
we
had
last
session
and
luckily
was
able
to
get
some
numbers
from
staff
and
I'd
like
to
dig
into
the
reversion
issue
a
little
bit.
I
know
that
was
an
issue
last
session.
A
Also,
so
it's
my
understanding
that
the
money
is
reverted
every
year
that
a
million
was
reverted
in
18
1.3
was
reverted
in
17
a
little
over
600
000
in
19.
So
I
think
we
should
have
a
conversation
about
the
reversion
factor
and
not
necessarily
leaning
towards
carryover
and
constantly
going,
but
the
fact
that
the
dollars
are
not
pulling
down
the
federal
dollars
and
if
they
don't
pull
them
down
within
a
certain
period
of
time.
A
That's
an
issue.
So
if
someone
could
expand
upon
that,
because
it's
hard
to
talk
about
putting
money
in
and
doing
things
when
it
turns
around
and
gets
reverted,
so
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
a
comprehensive
conversation
about
that,
and
I
know
over
the
interim,
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
conversation
about
that
as
far
as
a
proposal
in
the
authorizations
act,
that
was
to
be
changed,
but
I
believe
the
goal
was
basically
to
work
with
other
agencies
to
see
how
they
made
sure
that
they
pulled
their
federal
match
down.
E
Thank
you,
assalamu
alaikum
carlton.
This
is
josnella's
deputy
administrator
reputation,
division
for
the
record,
so
you're
absolutely
correct.
The
the
version
of
the
general
fund
and
the
subsequent
version
of
the
federal
dollars
have
been
some
have
been
an
issue
for
the
division
for
for
a
few
years
or
since
about
2012
in
the.
In
the
last.
E
In
the
last
session,
we
were
able
to
present
our
situation
with
the
legislative
committee
on
senior
citizens,
veterans
and
adult
special
needs,
and
that
committee
has
submitted
a
letter
to,
I
believe,
to
governor
sandoval.
E
Asking
for
for
there
to
be
an
exemption
for
the
rehabilitation
division
to
be
able
to
carry
over
its
its
general
fund
dollars
from
one
state
fiscal
year
to
the
next,
and
only
for
that
one
year,
so
that
we
are
able
to
kind
of
fully
draw
down
the
federal
funds
under
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
are
not
able
to
fully
expand.
E
All
of
our
general
funds
in
a
course
of
a
12-month
period
really
has
to
do
with
states,
rules
and
requirements
that
are
there
that
kind
of
really
extend
the
procurement
process
and
also
so
as
an
example.
If
we
need
a
certain,
let's
say.
E
House
modification,
for
example,
for
an
individual
to
be
able
to
modify
their
homes
that
way
or
their
vehicle,
so
that
way,
they're
able
to
travel
from
their
home
to
to
their
kind
of
place
of
employment.
The
amount
of
that
might
be
anywhere
between
20
to
60
to
80
000,
in
terms
of
that
particular
accommodation.
C
E
We
know
are
going
to
happen
and
some
services
that
that
come
as
that
they
may
be
more
spare
the
more
that
doesn't
happen
as
as
frequently
in
these
situations.
If
we
have
to
get
a
contract
in
place
that
may
the
process
it
takes
a
few
months
between
getting
it
approved
for
procurement
purchasing
process
then
also
approved
by
the
boe
and
so
forth.
E
If
we
don't
have
particular
funding
available,
there's
also,
then
the
need
for
the
work
programs
and
such
all
of
this
kind
of
extends
the
timeline
so
now
that
if
we
are
not
able
to
fully
extend
all
those
general
funds,
even
though
we
had
the
process
in
place,
maybe
we
had
the
item
ordered
and
whatnot,
but
if
we
are
not
able
to
fully
extend
it
by
that
end
of
the
state
fiscal
year
and-
and
I
think
we
only
have
a
month
of
that
for
for
the
payment
now
we
have
to
refer
these
funds.
E
The
need
is
still
there.
We
still
have
to
service
this
client
in
the
in
the
upcoming
months,
but
now
we
can
no
longer
do
it
from
their
last
years
of
state
money.
Now
we
have
to
do
it
from
the
from
the
new
new
funds.
We
have
also
worked
with
some
other
agencies
and
haven't
really.
E
We
spent
a
lot
of
time,
also
improving
all
of
our
internal
processes
to
be
able
to
have
internally
more
efficient
things
in
place
and
be
able
to
more
quickly
spend
the
funds,
but-
and
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why,
over
the
last
few
years,
that
amount
of
reversion
has
decreased.
E
But
I
think
we
went
from
close
to
a
million
to
only
like
over
200
000
last
year,
but
we're
still
but
well.
We
still
don't
see
that
until
we
get
to
a
place
where
we
at
least
have
it,
have
an
exemption
to
be
able
to
carry
over
the
state
general
fund
from
one
year
to
the
next.
Only
for
that
one
year
it
can
be
closed.
After
that
we
will
not
be
able
to
fully
extend
not.
B
A
And-
and
I
appreciate
that
you,
you
got
the
top
level
of
it-
I
I
think
what
we
should
dive
into
more
deeply.
Is
you
know
if
there's
a
lot
of
programs
in
hhs
that
do
manage
to
do
this?
We
just
want
to
know
if
there's
a
structural
issue
we
want
to
get
in
in
order
to
let
an
agency
roll
funds
over
from
one
year
to
the
next.
A
A
pretty
good
argument
has
to
be
made
for
that,
because
what
could
ultimately
happen
and
not
saying
that
this
is,
it
seems
like
you
guys,
would
spend
the
money.
But
what
could
ultimately
happen?
Is
it
rolls
over
from
one
year
to
the
next
and
at
the
end
of
the
two
years,
you've
got
three
million
dollars
coming
back
and
then
that
million
dollars
or
so
sat
there
was
not
used
and
could
have
been
used.
A
Someplace
else
not
saying
that
would
be
you,
but
we
always
want
to
be
careful
that
when
we
send
those
dollars
out
that
they're
being
used
in
a
timely
fashion
and
that's
why
the
reversion
clause
works,
because
if
it's
not
being
used,
we
can
pull
it
back
and
put
it
someplace
else.
So
there
are
times
when
your
agency
might
be
the
beneficiary
of
reversion
clauses,
because
we
might
be
able
to
put
those
dollars
to
a
another
use
in
another
budget.
A
So
I
just
think
we
want
to
make
sure,
as
we
have
that
discussion,
that
we
understand
what
exactly
you're
asking
for
and
can
figure
out
exactly.
A
You
know
where
the
glitch
really
is
on
that,
and
then
there
was
a
and,
if
I
made
madam
chair
I'll,
do
one
more
because
I
know
there's
a
couple
other
folks
who
probably
have
questions.
But
there
was
a
a
brief
mention
of
being
able
to
meld
the
budgets
together:
vocational
rehab,
I
believe,
and
the
blind
enterprise
and
and
the
the
blind
fund
that
has
been
proposed
a
number
of
times
in
this
legislature.
A
It
it.
It
turns
into
a
very
contentious
discussion,
because
each
entity
feels
as
though
they
will
not
get
the
same
level
of
attention
because
they
will
be
melded
together
and
there's
always
a
caution
of
are
the
dollars
that
are
supposed
to
be
going
to.
One
account.
Go
there
dollars
for
another
account
when
they
get
blended
together,
we've
had
some
constituents,
who've
had
some
very
serious
concerns
about
making
sure
that
the
resources
that
they
need
are
still
available,
and
we
want
to
give
you
the
resources
that
you
need.
A
I'd
love
to
solve
this
problem
before
I
leave
this
building,
but
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
using
money
in
the
wrong
place
or
putting
it
someplace
where
it's
not
getting
used
at
at
the
correct
level.
So
I
appreciate
your
explanation
and
we'll
will
continue
to
have
this
conversation.
Thank
you
very
much
manager.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
good
morning
to
everybody.
I
just
had
probably
two
questions,
but
one
of
the
questions
goes
back
to
the
account
3269
and
we're
talking
about
a
phone
system
that
will
be
upgraded
from
what
you're
using
right.
Now.
F
A
F
Okay,
so
I'll
just
go
to
the
question
I
have
for
32.65
and
it
really
is
more
of
a
half
question
in
the
statement.
One
of
the
things
that
you
talked
about
was,
of
course,
the
termination
of
your
cooperative
arrangements
with
the
universities
and
with
the
school
system.
F
Obviously,
during
this
pandemic,
we've
had
a
lot
of
job
loss,
but
a
lot
of
that
may
be
coming
back
as
we
get
our
economy
up
and
running.
However,
I
think
everybody
would
agree
that
there
is
going
to
be.
There
are
going
to
be
some
jobs
that
just
don't
come
back
and
that's
for
the
population
you
serve
as
well
as
the
greater
population,
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
and
we're
all
going
to
see
that
there's
going
to
be
greater
numbers
of
jobs
that
they're
just
they're
not
going
to
be
there
anymore.
F
They
just
don't
exist
anymore,
that
business
went
away
or
that
industry
has
diminished
to
the
point
where
they
can't
hire
people
back.
So
obviously
we're
going
to
have
to
retrain
folks.
Is
there
any
and
everybody
keeps
saying
that
there's
gonna
be
people,
there's
gonna,
be
a
number
of
people
who
we
need
to
serve
any
clue
as
to
what
that
number
might
be.
F
Is
there
anybody
anybody
out
there
doing
any
analysis
that
would
give
us
a
clue
as
to
how
many
how
many
people
were
going
to
retrain,
because
that's
the
part
that
worries
me
is
that
now
we're
going
to
see
a
number
of
people,
and
hopefully
you
have
numbers
or
know
of
somewhere
to
get
them
of
people
who
need
to
be
retrained,
but
we're
sort
of
eliminating
that
ability
to
do
that
and
get
them
out
their
meaningful
employment.
Again.
That's
that's,
definitely
a
concern,
so
any
any
ques.
Any
answers
to
that
be
great.
C
B
Is
a
david
schmidt
chief
economist
for
dieter
and
to
to
sort
of
broadly
answer
the
the
senator's
question.
We
are
working
on
our
employment
projections
right
now.
These
are
short-term
projections
that
look
at
what
we
expect
things
to
be
like
in
the
middle
of
calendar
year
2022,
and
there
is
definitely
an
impact
to
our
expected
employment
numbers
across
a
variety
of
industries.
B
We
don't
have
those
quite
published
and
final
yet,
but
we
will
definitely
share
them
with
you
when
they
become
available,
but
we
are
definitely
expecting
some
some
disruption
and
some
change
and
we'll
be
working
with
our
partners
in
the
the
vr
and
other
programs
in
esd
to
to
make
sure
that
those
numbers
are
available
to
help
target
services
to
people
who
are
affected.
B
F
I
appreciate
that,
thank
you
so
much
we're
kind
of
looking
forward
to
seeing
those
numbers
and,
and
then
just
one
more
quick
question
on
this
budget,
in
particular
to
the
I
know
that
senator
donder
lupin
mentioned
this
through
the
rehabilitation
manager,
one
position
and
I'm
trying
to
get
a
grasp
on
how
this
all
works.
I
know
that
there
is
you
guys,
have
a
step
system
and
that
the
the
the
base
budget
is
a
step
one
but
you're
talking
about
it
being
a
step.
F
E
Thank
you
senator
hammond.
This
is
rosnell's
for
the
record,
so
I
think
with
when
the
agency
does
the
space
budgeting
for
positions
that
are
at
that
pay
grade.
They
budgeted
at
a
level
five.
However,
when
it
comes
to
hiring
we
hire
individuals,
we,
I
guess
we
wouldn't
start
with
a
goal
as
to
where
we're
gonna
slaughter
them.
As
far
as
the
the
pay
grade,
we
would
work
higher
from
looking
at
like
who
is
the
best
candidate.
E
That's
it's
aleppo,
that's
out
there,
so
it
could
be
anywhere
from
one
to
ten.
I
guess,
if
somebody's,
if
we
end
up
hiring
somebody,
for
example
from
out
of
state,
they
maybe
worked
in
a
vocational
rehabilitation
type
agency
and
some
of
the
other
in
like
another
state,
or
something
like
that,
because
they're
starting
the
state
of
nevada,
they
started
with
pay
grade
one
subsequently.
Also,
if
it's
somebody
who's
promoted
from
within
the
agency,
then
they
also
will
kind
of
follow
that
those
hr
rules.
E
But
I
guess,
when
you
end
up,
then
we
end
up
getting
back
to
place
where
we're
gonna
hire
require.
Somebody
could
be
anywhere
from
one
to
ten,
but
there
should
be
enough
salary
savings
available
from
the
other
positions
to
be
able
to
kind
of
absorb
any
any
difference
between
level
five
which
is
budgeted
for
and
something
that
the
actual
individual
ends
up
working
on.
I'm.
F
Gonna
answer
the
question:
I
I
appreciate
that
mr
ellis,
because
I
I
think
that
the
savings
as
you
mentioned,
comes
in
that
just
that
one
year,
where
you're
not
hiring
them
and
then,
if
there's
more
additional
savings,
it
just
depends
on
what
step
you
hire.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
appreciate
the
questions.
B
B
Sorry,
can
you
hear
me
better
if
I
get
a
little
closer
to
the
microphone?
Okay.
Thank
you
anyway.
Thank
you
and
mr
I
don't
know
if
I
I'm
going
to
pronounce
this
correctly,
but
mr
allez
for
your
first
budget
hearing
you're
doing
a
wonderful
job,
and
this
is
a
very,
very
difficult
discussion,
probably
one
of
the
hardest
ones.
I
think
we've
we've
had
or
certainly
up
there.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
didn't
miss
the
number.
B
I
know
that,
with
the
cuts
to
the
third
party
cooperative
arrangements,
we
serviced
299
clients
in
fiscal
year,
19
360
clients
in
fiscal
year
20..
I
don't
know
if
I
missed.
If
we
go
to
an
order
of
selection,
the
cuts
of
priority
two
and
three
clients
do
we
have
estimates
of
how
many
clients
that
will
impact
if
we,
if
we
were
to
cut
services
to
those
priority
two
and
three
and
I've,
and
forgive
me
if
I
missed
that
number
earlier.
C
This
is
michelle
merrill
for
the
record.
Do
you
assemblywoman
tolls?
If
you
take
an
average
of
give
or
take
5000
people
in
any
given
year
that
voc
rehab
services?
C
You
can
imagine
that
in
priority
category,
one
being
the
one
that
we're
going
to
give
our
our
required
attention
to
we'll
be
able
to
serve
about
3
700
people,
which
leaves
a
little
over
1200
people
that
will
be
in
those
holding
patterns.
Those
second
and
third
tiered
priority
groups
that
won't
receive
services
until
we
clear
the
the
initial
group
in
priority,
one.
B
Thank
you
for
that
clarification
and
I'd
like
to
revisit.
If
I
may
slide
number
eight
and
we
may
have
to
do
a
little
bit
of
calculating,
but
on
slide
number
eight.
You
talked
about
the
return
on
investment
and
for
every
one
dollar
invested
in
voc,
rehab
there's
a
two
2.96
savings
for
taxpayers
over
the
life
of
a
client
and
then
for
every
general
fund
dollar
invested.
B
The
state
saves
16.73
over
the
life
of
a
client,
and
so
I
I
just
wonder
if
we
could
get
a
calculation
of
these
cuts
and
what
that
is
going
to
multiply
out
to
in
terms
of
the
cost
to
the
state,
as
well
as
the
savings
that
we're
losing
for
our
taxpayers.
B
I
mean
my
my
very
very
rough
math
using
the
974
550
of
proposed
cuts
in
these
budgets
would
equate
to
2.9
million
in
the
taxpayer.
Savings
lost
and
16
million
in
general
fund
dollars,
but
I
may
be
totally
off
so
I
don't
expect
those
calculations
right
now,
but
I
would
appreciate
for
us
to
get
a
bigger
picture
of
these
quote.
Unquote,
cuts
really
are
not
saving
they're
going
to
cost
us
more
in
the
long
run,
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
those
questions.
E
We
will
proceed
with
the
with
our
next
budget,
which
is
the
budget
for
representation
for
budget
account,
3269,
which
is
bureau
of
disability
education
and
just
as
a
as
a
reminder,
the
bureau
of
disability
education
is
agility
case
claims
for
supplemental
security
income
as
well
as
securities,
social
security,
disability
insurance
benefits
to
ensure
financial
support
for
eligible
individuals
who
cannot
work
due
to
due
to
a
disability.
E
So
on
this
slide,
we
just
wanted
to
point
out
just
the
scope
and
the
size
of
the
program,
as
you
can
see
on
that
top
line
on
the
top
table.
The
bottom
line,
top
total
nevada,
disabled
beneficiaries,
so
in
nevada,
there's
118
000
of
nevadans
who
receive
benefits
from
social
security
administration,
either
in
form
of
ssi,
supplemental
security,
income
or
in
form
of
ssdi
social
security,
disability
insurance.
E
The
total
number
of
dollars
that
is
paid
on
average
to
nevadans
is
that
bottom
number
total
dollars
it's
1.3
billion
dollars,
so
not
necessarily
a
million
1.3
billion
dollars.
It's
a
huge
program.
It
is
it's
also
what
was
deemed
essential
during
this
volkovic
and
the
whole
civil
education
has
been
worked
throughout
the
covet
shutdowns
and
it's
been
open
to
serve
play
to
serve
nevadans
and
provided
so
that
individuals
who
would
qualify
for
these
benefits
has
have
received
them.
D
Thank
you.
This
is
jana
vaughn
for
the
record.
No,
I
think
I
think,
draws
and
said
it
perfectly.
The
only
thing
I'd
like
to
remind
is
that
we
are
100
federally
funded,
and
so
this
1.3
billion
dollars,
that's
average
annually,
that's
paid
out
to
nevadans
also
obviously
goes
back
into
our
nevada
economy
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
an
important
statement
tonight.
Thank
you.
E
So
here
we
also
wanted
to
just
display
some
information
regarding
the
bureau
of
disability
adjudication.
So,
as
you
can
see,
the
statewide
there's
about
162
staff
combined,
so
that's
121
fde,
as
well
as
27
intermittent
staff
as
and
15
contracted
medical
professionals
that
serve
these
serve
our
claimants.
The.
What
we
wanted
to
point
out
is
that
the
decision
accuracy
that
the
agency
currently
has
is
at
92.5.
E
We
then
send
those
once
once
our
bda
staff
makes
a
determination
on
a
on
a
claimant
on
a
case
that
goes
to
them
to
social
security
administration,
who
will
review
that
and
then
determine
whether
we
need
they
need
some
more
information
or,
if
you
have
to
process
the
case
or
whether
that
the
village
individual
qualifies
so
out
of
all
of
those
decisions
are
stated,
has
reached
about
92.5
percent
and
is
and
also
let
this
one
add
some
more
information.
E
But
I
believe
we
are
also
one
of
the
highest
states
in
terms
of
the
accuracy
in
the
in
the
region
and
swan.
Is
there
anything
else
you
want
to
add
to
this
life.
D
Thank
you
justin.
This
is
jan
yvonne
for
the
record.
B
D
As
he
said,
our
federal
quality
accuracy-
this
was
over
the
past
fiscal
year-
was
92.5.
However,
we
have
recently
received
kudos,
so
I
have
to
give
a
little
shout
out.
We
have
currently
over
the
past
six
months,
we're
at
97.1
percent,
and
that
is,
we
are
leading
our
region
right
now
in
quality,
as
well
as
a
nation
is
about
at
93
percent.
So
we're
doing
really
well
with
our
quality
that
which
is
the
decision
accuracy
in
in
these
decisions
for
claimants,.
B
D
Want
to
talk
about
the
mean
processing
time
right
now,
we
are
at
122.1
days,
that
was
for
the
federal
fiscal
year
2020.
this.
This
is
from
what
the
moment
the
claim
hits,
hits
our
doors
so
before
it's
even
assigned
to
an
adjudicator
it's
to
take
into
account
the
entire
process.
D
We
do,
unfortunately,
this.
We
expect
this
to
go
up
a
little
bit
this
year,
because
with
covid
we've
had
a
lot
of
holds
that
we've
had
to
put
on
several
different
types
of
claims.
Some
of
these
have
been
directed
from
the
social
security
administration
because
they
didn't
want
to
negatively
impact
any
claimants,
so
those
people
who
are
on
benefits
receiving
monthly
benefits
and
those
claims
come
back
to
our
office
for
a
continuing
disability
review.
D
We
they
did
not
want
to
remove
any
of
those
from
funds
if
the,
if
their
condition
had
improved.
So
we
were
told
to
kind
of
put
a
stop
on
those
continuing
disability
reviews.
We
were
also
told
to.
We
also
had
to
put
a
hold
on
our
consultative
examinations.
If
there's
not
enough
medical
records
in
file,
we
send
the
claimant
to
an
exam,
either
mental
physical
x-rays
and
because
of
the
pandemic,
obviously
for
for
health
and
safety
reasons,
those
were
put
on
hold
for
a
while.
D
D
Of
of
claims,
as
well
processed
again
for
the
same
reasons,
our
goal
for
the
that
social
security
has
given
to
us
for
this
federal
fiscal
year
is
close
to
31
000
claims
that
they
expect
us
to
process
for
federal
fiscal
year
2021..
E
Thank
you
next
slightly,
and
we
just
have
a
couple
more
slides
left.
They
deal
with
the
two
two,
the
two
enhancements
that
we
have
for
this
budget
account
again.
This
is
100
100,
federally
funded
program,
so
there's
no
general
funds
associated
with
that.
This
particular
enhancement
e250
has
to
do
with
replacing
the
currently
unsupported
phone
system
with
the
new
cloud-based
8x8
system.
E
This
was
mistakenly
left
out
of
leader's
phone
system
upgrades
due
to
the
against
during
the
covet
adoption
chaos.
I
think
that
all
of
us
have
been
kind
of
experiencing.
Unfortunately,
so
we
still
have
been
able
to
negotiate
and
get
the
bulk
rate
pricing
for
this
upgrade,
and
then
the
phone
system
will
be
able
to
support
by
our
leader,
I.t
staff.
E
This
new
phone
cloud,
cloud-based
phone
system
also
has
desktop
and
kind
of
mobile
applications
really
allows
our
staff
to
work
virtually
and
be
able
to
conduct
their
business
from
wherever
they
end
up
kind
of
working
remotely
from
we
don't
have
to
be
tied
to
physical
location,
but
we
have
to
delete
the
previous
phone
system
so
definitely
feel
this
is
a
huge
upgrade
for
us
or
a
huge
improvement
to
our
operations
and
then
next
slide.
E
Please,
the
the
enhancement
806
does
something
similar
to
what
we
discussed
in
the
budget
account
3265
and
54.
It
would
reclassify
administrative
system
one
to
rehab
technician
three,
so
due
to
some
similar
reasons
as
the
previous
as
in
the
previous
budget
accounts,
this
would
ensure
that
we
just
created
a
little
bit.
E
B
E
Create
some
efficiency,
improvements
and
operational
improvements
in
our
in
our
bureaus
in
one
of
the
that
that's
that's
done
by
kind
of
taking
some
of
the
cases
and
some
of
the
busy
work
away
from
those
individuals,
they're
sharing
clients
but
but
are
and
then
be
variable,
they're
able
to
focus
more
on
clients
or
claimants
in
this
particular
place
and
miss
phone.
Is
there
anything
else?
You
would
like
to
ask
this
one.
D
D
As
drawing
said
we
were,
we
worked
100
through
the
pandemic.
We
did
this
by
being
able
to
allow
most
of
our
workers
to
be
able
to
work
from
home
work.
Remotely
social
security
administration
gave
permission
for
us
to
take
our
computers,
home
our
equipment,
home
and
social
security
administration
also
provided
cell
phones
for
everybody
working
from
home,
so
they
could
con
still
contact,
be
in
contact
with
the
claimant
or
calling
for
medical
records
or
whatever
the
needs
were.
However,
we
have
a
skeleton
crew.
D
If
someone
does
call,
there's
not
a
way
for
us
to
transfer
those
calls
directly
to
those
cell
phones
to
those
who
are
working
from
home,
so
I
know
this
was
a
a
deter,
wide
plan
to
be
able
to
implement
this
phone
system,
and
I
just
that's
why
I
wanted
to
mention
what
it
would
do
for
us
specifically
with
those
working
from
home.
So.
D
For
that,
as
far
as
the
the
rehab
tech
upgrade
yes.
C
D
Currently
have
14
rehabilitation
technicians
too,
whose
job
is
to
support
our
adjudicative
staff
so
like
jose
mentioned,
so
that
our
adjudicators
can
work
on
analyzing
and
doing
those
more
critical
skills.
D
D
Originally,
we
had
these
rehabilitation
technicians
placed
in
our
adjudication
units
and
we
found
that
for
consistency
purposes.
We
thought
it'd
be
best
to
just
bring
them
all
together
and
under
under
one
unit,
so
that
all
adjudicators
were
getting
the
same
type
of
support.
D
The
training
was
consistent.
Everything
was
all
the
expectations
were
the
same
from
one
rehab
tech
to
the
next.
However,
we
don't
have
someone
a
supervisor
who
can
who
can
do
those
things?
Who
has
the
time
to
commit
to
be
able
to
assign
all
of
those
tasks
to
our
rehabilitation
technicians
and
just
to
make
sure
that
provide
those
supervisory
tasks
make
sure
everything
is
running
smoothly
and
consistently
across
the
state.
E
A
B
Thank
you
so
much.
Madam
chair,
I
just
had
a
quick
follow-up
question
on
the
phone
system
upgrade,
and
I
I
appreciate
that
you
mentioned
that
this
is
part
of
a
department-wide
initiative.
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
provide
a
little
bit
additional
information
on
where
that
initiative
is
at
overall
and
then
based
on
that
when
you
would
expect
the
modernization
specifically
for
for
this
budget
for
the
adjudication
to
be
complete,
assuming
that
we
move
forward
with
this
decision
item.
E
Thank
you,
some
women
watts.
This
is
rosnellis
for
the
record,
so
currently
the
in
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
the
eight
by
eight
system
for
dieter
has
been
rolled
out
across
the
department.
The
only
agency
that's
still
pending
and
getting
this
rolled
out
is
our
bureau
disability,
education.
E
Passed
in
this
biennium
that
we
will
be
starting
that
then
day
one
we
will
be
we'll
start
get
to
get
the
the
new
phone
system
in
place.
One
of
the
guest
benefits
is
that
we
currently
have
the
contract
with
that
particular
entity
in
place
there
so,
and
we
already
started
conversations
about
us
getting
this
process
and
getting
this
phone
system
implemented
and
and
rolled
out.
E
So,
unlike
most
things
that
happen
in
government,
where
things
take
time
due
to
due
to
the
various
opera
reasons
or
legislative
rules,
regulations
and
whatnot,
this
particular
one
we
feel
would
be
rolled
up
very
quickly.
So
for
that
answer,.
B
Thank
you
so
just
as
a
quick
follow-up,
madam
chair,
so
given
that
it's
already
been
rolled
out
everywhere
else,
and
this
it's
really
only
within
this,
this
part
of
the
department
that
it
still
needs
to
be
deployed.
B
Probably
a
couple
of
months
after
it's
it's
approved,
you'd,
probably
be
able
to
get
this
system
live.
Is
that
correct.
F
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Exactly
and
I
apologize.
I
I
thought
that
this
was
being
covered
initially
in
the
presentation
so
yeah
I
do
have.
It
came
to
my
attention
actually,
during
the
you
know
last
few
months
over
the
last
year.
Actually,
in
the
last
few
months,
though,
I
had
a
few
of
my
constituents
call
me
up
and
tell
me
that
they
were
receiving
calls
from
dieter,
and
I
saw
that
in
your
slide
31.
F
I
think
some
of
the
the
answers
were
there
for
me,
but
at
this
particular
one
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
gave
you
a
chance
to
kind
of
tell
everybody
on
the
record
what's
happening
and
how
it's
going
to
improve
the
system.
A
few
of
these
cl
these
constituents
called
and
said
that
they
were
getting
phone
calls
from
deter
regarding
their
benefits
and
a
lot
of
times.
F
Those
phone
calls
would
come
in
and
it
would
say,
unknown
caller
on
their
phone
system,
so
they
weren't
sure
who
was
calling
them,
which
led
to
more
confusion,
because
you
know
some
of
these
clients.
Some
of
these
constituents
are
actually
a
little
older
and
are
always
worried
about
being
abused
in
some
way
or
being
taken
advantage
of,
and
so
there
would
be
a
discussion
and
some
you
know
some
conflict
between
the
two.
I
guess
my
question
is
when
you
update
and
this
new
system
goes
into
place
now,
when
someone
is
working
from
home.
F
Will
the
system
then
allow
them
to
show
the
recipient
of
that
phone
call
that
it
is
coming
from
the
state
of
nevada
from
the
leader
system,
from
the
deter
or
from
whoever
in
your
agencies
so
that
they
know
and
there's
a
feeling
more
of
of
relief
that
that's
who's
calling
is.
Is
that
the
intention.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
senator
hammond,
for
the
question
this
is
just
this
is
just
not
for
the
record
so
I'll
attempt
to
answer
this
question
and
then
I'll
fill
that
over
to
leaders
main
office.
If
there's
any
up
on
that,
so
yes,
once
once
this
phone
system
is
rolled
out,
we
would
like
the
individuals
that
receive
the
phone
call
would
be
able
to
see
the
the
phone
number
which
is
calling
them.
E
The
phone
number
that
will
show
up
would
not
be
the
phone
number
to
the
extension
of
that
individual,
but
there
would
be
a
general
number
for
ford.
That's
that's
there
in
the
system,
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
anybody
else
at
the
leader
headquarters
that
may
be
able
to
provide
some
additional
details
on
that.
B
Foreign
administrator
for
dieter
for
the
record
drazen
is
correct
once
once,
if
you're
working
from
home
or
any
remote
location-
and
you
call
me-
make
a
call
to
a
claim
it-
that
particular
person
will
see
a
dieter
number
come
up.
A
F
Well,
well,
thank
you
so
much.
I
think
that's
great
and
I
think
it's
you
know
when
we
learn
lessons
and
then
we
you
know,
make
adjustments.
I
think
that
certainly
the
people
appreciate
that
and
that's
that's
going
to
be
great,
because
I
know
that
in
the
future
we're
probably
working
a
lot
more
from
home
when
we're
able
to
so.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
the
question.
B
E
Thank
you,
chairman
mourinho,
for
the
record.
This
is
johnson
ellis.
So
what
that
was
that
question
just
to
clarify.
Was
that
question
just
specifically
for
bureau
of
disability
education
or
for
their
rehabilitation
division
as
a
whole.
E
So
so
to
answer
so
this
is
drastic
notes
for
the
record.
What
once
we
start
reopening?
We
feel
that
we
have
been
working
on
a
plan
for
a
good
part
of
of
a
year.
Now
I
think,
since
we
got
closed
down
every
few
months,
it
seemed
like
we
were.
We
may
get
to
a
place
where
the
openings
are
eminent
or
kind
of
or
somewhere
in
the
near
future.
So
we've
been
working
on
kind
of
on
on
planes
as
to
how
we
would
phase
in
staff
coming
in.
E
I
think
there's
definitely
a
lot
of
situations
that
we
have
to
kind
of
look
out
there.
The
economy
that
folks
are
dealing
with
before
we
kind
of
decide
to
bring
everybody
in
part
of
that
is
going
to
be
just
what
kind
of
mandates
are
there
in
terms
of
having
distances
between
the
offices?
Also,
we
have
a
lot
of
folks,
maybe
who
I've
been
in
school
district,
where
their
kids
might
not
be
going
to
school
full-time.
So
there's
going
to
be
a.
E
I
feel
some
balance
that
and
we'll
have
flexibility
for
our
to
provide
flexibility
to
our
staff.
E
To
for
us
to
have
a
much
a
little
bit
more
of
a
gradual
reopening
once
the
state
says
that
we
should
open
our
offices,
we're
definitely
ensure
that
all
of
our
offices,
our
state,
are
open
in
the
manner
they
were
before,
with
having,
with
some
flexibilities
to
staff,
to
either
works
adjustments
to
their
with
adjustments
to
their
work
schedules,
whether
they're
working
now,
four
tenths
versus
five
eights,
maybe
sharing
some
offices
where
we
have
staff
there
working
from
home
because
of
their
child
care
needs
or
whatnot,
so
we'll
be
flexible
and
kind
of
working
with
all
the
staff
on
ensuring
that
we
kind
of
have
a
phase-in
approach
that
takes
everybody's
needs
into
account,
but
also
looks
at
the
fact
that
we
are
that
we
will
be
serving
our
constituencies
and
do
we
have
enough
staff
available
there
too
to
serve
anybody
that
seeks
service.
C
Absolutely
we
are
deep
in
our
plans
to
reopen
we're
co-located
in
all
of
the
job
connects
and
the
one
stop
statewide.
So
we're
working
closely
with
our
dieter
partners
to
make
sure
that
that
is
as
smooth
as
possible
in
our
own
independent
offices,
north
and
south
las
vegas
and
reno.
C
We
are
going
to
be
doing
an
approach
where
we
have
client
use
rooms,
so
the
clients
can
come
in.
There
will
be
a
computer
there
with
the
camera
and
they
can
connect
to
either
a
counselor
who's
either
in
the
office
if
it's
not
suitable
to
meet
face
to
face
for
any
particular
reason
or
if
their
counselor
is
working
from
home.
That
day
they'll
be
able
to
meet
with
their
counselor
virtually
from
home.
C
We
think
that
that's
going
to
enable
us
to
not
only
be
space
conservative,
but
it's
allowing
us
to
ensure
that
we're
creating
enough
appropriate
distance
so
that
there's
room
in
the
app
in
the
office
building
so
that
we're
not
exceeding
capacity,
and
we
think
that
that's
going
to
be
the
best
way
for
our
roll
out
and
I'll.
Let
janna
yvonne
speak
to
bda.
D
Thank
you,
jenna
vaughn,
for
the
record.
I
think
dawson
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
We
are
bda,
has
been
100
percent,
effective
and
efficient
and
being
able
to
complete
all
their
tasks
from
home.
During
this
time
it
has
been
a
learning
experience
for
sure,
but
having
said
that,
we're
going
to
cautiously,
you
know
move
forward.
D
Perhaps
a
hybrid
approach
is
kind
of
what
we're
talking
about,
where
maybe
there's
a
couple
of
days
in
the
office
and
a
couple
of
days
at
home
again
taking
into
consideration
as
droson
said,
child
care
issues.
You
know
things
like
that,
for
our
staff
are
still
it's
still
really
a
tumultuous
time.
You
know,
and
so
we're
just
playing
it
by
ear,
but
because
we
have
shown
success
working
from
home
social
security
administration
does
support
that,
at
whatever
level
we
we
decide
to
move
forward
with.
A
E
Thank
you
all
so
much.
I
appreciate
you
being
kind
to
me
during
this
presentation
and
I'll
move
I'll
pass
it
on
to
the
next
presenter.
G
Great
thanks,
okay,
good
morning
this
is
alisa
cafaretta,
the
director
of
dieter,
I'm
gonna.
Let
our
rehab
folks
know
they're
welcome
to
stay
they're
welcome
to
go
whatever
they
need
to
do.
G
I'm
here
to
present
the
budget
amendments
for
the
employment
security
division
budget,
as
well
as
the
idp
budget
and
the
deter
administration
budgets
that
we
mentioned
to
you.
When
we
presented
on
march
4th
I'm
joined
in
the
room,
you
haven't
been
introduced
to
jeff
frishman,
who
is
back
from
retirement
for
a
brief
period.
G
He's
our
subject
matter:
expert
in
employment
security,
jenny
castleman,
is
our
deputy
director
david
schmidt
is
our
economist.
Chris
sewell
is
our
chief
operating
officer.
We
also
have
on
the
line
marilyn
belmont,
who
is
our
idp
administrator
and
kitty
dissocio,
who
is
our
chief
financial
officer
so
because
the
situation
at
dieter
has
been
incredibly
fluid
since
the
time
we
submitted
our
budget,
we
have
been
working
with
the
governor's
finance
office
to
get
as
clear
a
picture
for
budgeting
purposes.
As
we
can.
G
That
said,
we
are
still
getting
guidance
from
the
department
of
labor
in
terms
of
the
extensions
and
the
new
policies
that
have
rolled
out.
We've
we've
only
gotten
preliminary
guidance
on
the
american
rescue
plan,
we're
expecting
more
detail
on
that
and
the
updates
on
our
funding
situation
are
ongoing
as
well.
G
Of
labor
each
year
and
then
based
on
our
quarterly
workload
reports
we
receive
above
base
grants
and
that's
sort
of
the
basic
administrative
funding
that
we
have
in
response
to
the
cobit
pandemic.
Congress
has
allocated
administrative
funds
for
the
implementation
of
these
several
new
programs
that
you
are
aware
we
have
implemented
over
the
past
year
and
every
time
they
extend
those
programs.
They
extend
the
administrative
funding
and
then,
in
recognition
of
the
significant
amount
of
fraud
that
we
are
seeing
along
with
all
other
states.
G
G
Everywhere
we
know
that
we
have
this
funding
because
we
have
received
either
information
or
notices
of
awards
for
the
base
grant.
For
next
year
we
have
been
told
it
will
not
go
up
or
down
more
than
five
percent,
so
we
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
what
that
will
be
and
for
the
above
base,
grant
we've
calculated
our
projections
based
on
the
workload
that
we
are
reporting,
so
we
feel
fairly
solid
that
the
revenue
sources
we've
identified
to
date
will
be
there
on
the
next
slide.
We
we've
talked
about
this
many
times.
G
It
is
very
challenging,
at
least
in
these
times,
when
we're
seeing
so
many
additional
funding
sources
to
project
out
what
our
revenue
will
be.
We
do
build
our
budget
based
on
the
expected
yearly
base,
grant
those
are
given
on
the
federal
fiscal
year.
So
it's
a
little
bit
off
from
the
state
fiscal
year
and
then
again
we
make
quarterly
workport
workload.
Reports
for
our
above
base
grants,
but
there's
a
significant
lag
time
in
that
money
coming
in
so
we've
reported
our
above
base
or
our
workload
from
the
last
quarter
of
calendar
year
2020.
G
We
know
we're
getting
about
seven
million
dollars
in
an
above
base
grant
for
that
period,
but
we
have
yet
to
actually
receive
that
money
and
then,
as
you
know,
we
need
to
bring
a
work
program
to
the
ifc
to
bring
that
funding
and
a
work
plan
in
and
then,
if
we're
doing
contracting,
then
it's
another
month
or
two
to
get
to
the
board
of
examiners
to
get
that
money
into
place
and
in
action
in
our
budget.
G
So
normally
the
lag
time
in
the
above
base
grounds
ends
up
with
a
little
bit
of
carryover.
As
assemblywoman
carlton
noted,
you
know
that's
problematic
and
we
want
to
have
as
much
transparency
in
our
budget
so
to
the
extent
possible
we're
trying
to
show
this
money
that
we
are
have
pretty
good
certainty.
We
are
bringing
in
and
put
it
into
the
budget,
so
you
can
see
where
the
money
is
coming
from
and
how
it
will
be
spent,
because
our
our
projections
are
a
little
bit
more
challenging
beyond
next
fiscal
year.
G
We
are
only
doing
a
budget
amendment
for
for
the
state
fiscal
year,
2020
2022
and
then,
if
we
still
have
needs
for
state
fiscal
year,
2023
we'll
come
back
to
the
ifc
with
specific
work
programs
and
projections.
G
The
regular
ui
grants
and
above
base
grant
are
approximately
almost
11
million
dollars
about
4
million
dollars
is
in
the
pua
administrative
funds
that
we
have
gotten
from
and
are
getting
from
the
department
of
labor
and
then
specifically,
fraud
grant
activities
are
just
under
a
million,
and
then
some
of
the
the
requests
here
are
will
be
cost
allocated.
So
all
of
the
programs
in
dieter
will
pick
up
a
portion
of
those
costs.
G
The
next
slide
is
a
high
level
overview
of
the
positions.
The
budget
amendment
is
primarily
for
intermittent
positions.
These
have
generally
already
been
approved
over
the
last
year
and
funded
as
we've
responded
to
the
covet
pandemic.
We
originally
were
very
wildly
optimistic
and
we're
hoping
that
we
would
no
longer
need
these
positions
as
of
july
30th
this
year
and
unfortunately,
the
need
still
remains
high.
G
We
are
still
seeing
a
large
number
of
new
claims
come
in
with
new
programs
at
the
federal
level
and
new
extensions
of
the
existing
programs
and
the
the
continued
backlog
that
we're
working
through.
We
we
anticipate,
we
need
these
positions
through
state
fiscal
year,
2020,
q
and-
and
it
is
our
fervent
goal-
that
we
get
caught
up
and
got
current
and
then
can
continue
more
to
sort
of
a
normal
order
of
operations
in
the
second
year
of
the
biennium.
G
So
we're
going
to
go
through
these
budget
amendments
individually
and
then
we'll
stop
for
questions
after
each
one.
The
first
budget
is
47.72,
which
is
the
unemployment
insurance.
G
This
includes
183
intermittent
fiscal
or
full-time
equivalent
positions,
they're
broken
down
as
follows,
and
this
actually
is
the
same
information
that
we
had
in
our
presentation
for
you
on
march
4th.
So
I'm
just
going
to
highlight
the
funding
sources
that
we've
identified
for
each
of
these
activities,
so
the
call
center
support
is
94
positions.
G
This
will
be
funded
half
by
the
ui
grant
the
unemployment
insurance
grant
in
half
by
the
pua
administrative
funds.
These
positions
make
up
teams
that
can
answer
the
phone
more
increasingly
resolve
issues
in
one.
Stop
will
allow
for
more
cross
training
between
pua
and
ui
and
will
put
us
in
a
solid
position
for
the
date
when
the
contract
staff
will
be
reduced
or
that
contract
will
expire.
G
The
fraud
team
is
36
intermittent
positions
again.
These
are
teams
that
are
on
the
front,
end,
reviewing
questionable
identity
cases
and
flags,
unfreezing
debit
cards
and
working
with
our
banking
vendor
to
make
sure
eligible
claimants
are
getting
their
funds.
This
is
the
team
that
is
issuing
correct,
1099s
and
does
waivers
for
overpayments.
A
G
Slide,
you
have
the
benefit
accuracy
measurement
unit,
which
is
our
quality
control,
we're
required
by
the
department
of
labor
to
have
this
activity
to
do
reporting
and
review
of
improper
payments.
This
was
waived
for
a
small
period,
but
we
need
to
have
these
physicians
to
undertake
this
activity
now.
This
will
be
funded
by
the
ua
grant
and
partly
by
the
above
base,
grant
the
contributions
unit
is
26
intermittent
positions.
Again,
these
are
teams
that
bring
in
the
funds
from
employers.
G
G
G
This
team
is
going
to
continue
to
see
an
increase
in
workload
because
they're
a
little
later
in
the
process,
just
because
of
the
increased
number
of
programs,
both
ui
and
pua,
and
the
increased
number
of
cases
we
anticipate
their
workload
will
continue
to
go
up
for
some
time.
This
is
funded.
G
The
12
positions
for
the
unemployment
insurance
support
services
team
is
funded
entirely
through
the
ui
grant.
This
team
does
the
policy
and
programming
analysis
that
is
needed
to
as
congress
updates
programs
and
provides
us
new
direction.
They
calculate
the
business
requirements
for
each
of
these
programs
and
work
with
our
technical
teams
to
implement
them.
G
We
recognize
that
and
want
to
respond
to
the
need
to
be
more
proactive
in
our
communications
with
claimants.
The
strikeforce
identified
a
need
to
engage
directly
with
claimants.
We
don't
have
a
specific
position
for
that,
but
the
strikeforce
recommended,
but
a
large
part
of
this
person's
time
would
be
dedicated
to
engaging
with
claimants
and
advocating
for
their
issues
and
serving
as
a
to
educate
and
guide
claimants
as
well.
Just
as
was
recommended.
G
This
would
be
funded
in
half
by
the
ui
grant
and
half
by
pua
administrative
funds.
G
So
for
this
program
you
can
see,
in
summary,
it's
183
intermittent
positions,
funded
I've.
I've
done
the
the
sums
here,
the
totals
for
the
ui
grant,
pool
administrative
funds
above
base
grant
and
the
fraud
grants,
and
you
can
see
that
this
is
an
amendment
only
reflects
in
state
fiscal
year
2022
and
we
would
revisit
if
we
need
to
for
2023.
A
That
thank
you,
I
believe,
assemblyman
robert
has
a
question.
B
Hey
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
and
thank
you
for
the
the
presentations
today
and
I
my
questions
were
on
the
intermittent
positions
in
in
the
summary
here.
You
talk
about
this
199
positions
and,
and
those
are,
are
those
additional
positions.
Are
they
encumbered
now.
G
Elisa
caferetta
for
the
record
as
the
the
pandemic
got
started.
We
came
to
the
interim
finance
committee
and
requested
additional
intermittent
positions,
and
these
these
are
all
positions
that
have
been
approved
and
funded
through
this
emergency
funding
and
we
were
hoping
not
to
have
have
to
continue
them.
We
were
hoping
we
were
going
to
be
all
caught
up
by
now,
but
we're
we,
but
again
the
programs
were
extended,
and
so
we
are
needing
to
continue
these.
These
positions.
B
Thank
you,
that's
what
I
that's,
what
I
thought
and
read
the
material
and
through
your
presentation
curious.
Are
we
carrying
a
lot
of
vacancies
number
one
and
two
is
you
know
we
would
revisit
this
in
2023
if
we
still
needed
the
amount-
and
you
know
of
these
workers-
is
that
that's
basically
the
plan.
G
Alicia
capareta
for
the
record
we
currently
have
in
in
these
positions.
We've
we
have
64
vacancies,
so
we
have
been
working
to
fill
these
positions
as
we
have
gone
along
and
some
we
just
haven't
been
able
to
fill
or
we
are
in
the
process.
G
As
you
may
know,
smart
21
was
just
recently
implemented
in
the
state
which
put
a
a
short
hiatus
on
our
hiring.
So
we
have
a
couple
of
things
that
are
on
hold
in
some
of
these
positions.
We
have
seen
some
turnover,
especially
in
the
the
claims
representative
sort
of
level
of
of
job.
Those
are
those
are
pretty
challenging
positions
at
the
moment.
G
If
you're
answering
the
phone,
it's
not
the
most
fun
time
you
could
ever
have,
but
we
are
filling
we're
filling
them
as
we
can
go,
and
then
we
do
anticipate
that
we
will
let
them
through
attrition.
We
will
sort
of
start
reducing
this
number,
because
we
don't
think
that
we'll
need
to
carry
this
full
complement
into
2023
and,
yes,
we
will
be
reevaluating
towards
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
and
come
back
to
you
with
a
report
on
on
what's
needed
to
go
forward.
If
any
of
these
positions.
B
Thank
you
and
one
last
follow-up,
I'm
sure
so
the
vacancies
and
the
in
the
in
the
monies
from
the
federal
funds
that
we
would
have
would
you
be
able
to
carry
that
over
into
2023.
If
you
needed
to.
G
Alisa
capareta
for
the
record,
I
I
do
believe
there
and
I'm
might
call
on
kitty
dissociate
to
provide
additional
detail
there.
There
are
limitations
to
what
we
can
carry
over.
I,
for
example,
with
our
above
base
grant.
G
If
we
haven't
obligated
the
funds
they
can
only
be
carried
over
for
technology,
modernization
projects
and
while
we
certainly
have
that
need
it
makes
it
challenging
if
what
we
need
is
to
have
staff
be
working
on
positions,
but
we'll
keep
you
apprised
of
that
and
if
kitty
wants
to
add
anything,
I
I
can't
tell
if
she's
on.
C
Yeah
kitty
dissocio
chief
financial
officer
for
the
record.
B
Director
cafretta
is
completely
accurate
with
her
statements
regarding
the
carryovers.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
answers
and
I
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
madam.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and,
and
you
can
cut
me
off
at
any
time
because
I
I
don't
have
a
specific
question
about
this,
but
I
I
know
I
know
we
have
miss
cafe
red
on
the
line
and
I've
been
receiving
calls
and
emails
in
the
last
two
days
and
we
can
take
this
offline,
but
I
figure
if
everybody's
here,
maybe
you
could
help
us
a
little
bit
with
with
constituents
who
are
talking
about
having
their
histories
erased
and
having.
F
You
know
an
invite
to
idemia,
because
I
think
that
you
guys
are
entering
into
a
new
benefits
package.
So
I,
if
you
want
to
comment
now
that
way,
we
know
how
to
answer
some
of
these
constituents
or,
if
you
want
to
take
it
offline,
we
can
do
that
as
well.
G
Thank
you,
alisa
caferetta,
for
the
record.
We're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
make
claims
examiners
out
of
all
of
you.
Yet,
though,
so
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
this.
Yes,
so
the
new
federal
law
requires
us
to
have
an
id
verification
up
front
for
all
of
our
programs
and
id
me
has
come
online
for
pua
and
it's
now
not
just
for
select
folks,
it's
for
everyone,
who's
applying
for
a
continued
week
or
a
new
week.
So
folks
will
see
this
for
a
short
period
of
time.
G
G
So
if
folks
will
just
hang
in
for
a
little
bit
on
that
we'll
get
caught
up
on
the
id
me
verification
and
then
yes,
we
have
been
working
to
implement
the
extended
weeks
under
the
american
rescue
plan
and
inadvertently
that
made
it
not
that
folks,
information
was
wiped
out,
but
it
did
because
it
was
a
new
year
make
it
so
that
they
couldn't
see
their
prior
claims
weeks
and
where
we've
asked
the
vendor
to
make
it
so
folks
can
see
their
full
record,
including
all
prior
weeks,
so
we
hope
to
have
that
done
as
soon
as
possible
as
well.
G
We
are
aware
of
it.
Folks,
appeals
are
still
there,
their
their
benefit
weeks
are
still
there.
Their
issues
are
still
there.
We
just
need
to
make
it
visible
to
them
again.
F
G
G
The
first
is
one
new
position
in
our
fiscal
management
team.
We
have
the
a
new
requirement
to
prepare
financial
statements
for
the
trust
fund,
which
we
did
not
have
before.
So
this
is
a
new
responsibility
for
us.
It
requires
a
slightly
different
skill
set
than
we
have,
so
we
are
asking
for
a
new
position
here
that
will
have
the
accounting
skills.
This
is
would
be
funded
entirely
by
the
ui
grant,
because
it
is
for
the
trust
fund.
G
The
second
request
is
reclassifying
a
management
analyst
too
to
it,
though
one
and
this
provides
more
opportunities
for
advancement
within
our
fiscal
management
team,
and
it
also
is
more
in
line
with
the
way
other
departments
handle
their
accounting
supervision,
and
the
third
request
here
is
also
a
reclassification
from
an
assistant
to
the
director
position
to
a
second
deputy
director
position.
G
What
I
would
say
we
have
learned
in
the
pandemic
situation
is
that
we
really
truly
need
staff
leadership
at
the
executive
level
to
make
sure
both
the
operations
and
support
units
can
work
just
hand
in
hand
with
the
programs,
it's
very
likely
as
we
go
forward
that
we're
going
to
need
more
technical
support
to
be
able
to
deliver
our
program
services
across
the
board.
G
The
integration
and
timing
of
our
finances
also
makes
it
critical
that
we
integrate
this
conversation
at
the
leadership
level
to
make
sure
we
can
deliver
services
and
make
the
long
term
updates
to
operations
that
we
need,
and
finally,
as
as
we've
discussed
today
as
we're
looking
at
our
as
each
of
our
units,
is
making
its
plans
to
return
to
opening
operations,
we're
we're
definitely
sort
of
looking
at
lessons
learned
and
the
best
way
forward.
G
So
we
think
we
need
this
two
two
deputy
directors
to
carry
that
leadership,
conversation
and
integration
on
as
we
go
forward
and
really
have
to
reinvent
ourselves
continually
and
provide
services
needed.
So
the
next
slide
gives
you
the
overview
of
the
two
reef
classifications
and
the
additional
fte
that
is
coming
from
both
the
ui
grant
and
the
two
reclassifications
are
from
cost
allocation,
so
they'll
be
spread
out
to
all
of
the
programs.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
I
guess
my
question
goes
to
the
the
issue
with
the
state
comptroller's
office.
I'm
no
longer
doing
the
comprehensive
enterprise,
the
the
financial
statements
for
you.
I
won't
go
through
the
belonging
of.
A
So
I
know
that
happened
in
in
19,
but
could
you
explain
why
they're
not
doing
it
for
you
any
longer,
it
seems
to
be
more
their
area
of
expertise,
and
do
you
have
the
staff
to
do
this
or
or
is
this
going
to
be
another
burden
on
top
of
everything
else
that
we're
asking
you
to
do
to
to
help
folks
stay
stable
in
their
their
lives?
Right
now,.
G
I'm
going
to
this
is
elisa
cappareta.
I'm
gonna
ask
katie
disoccio
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
the
history.
I
was
not
here
when
that
decision
was
made,
but
it
is
the
in
terms
of
staffing.
That
is
the
reason
we're
asking
for
this
additional
position
to
handle
that
work.
B
G
It's
it's
no.
This
is
this
elisa
capretta
for
the
record.
This
would
be
the
this
is
the
first
line.
It's
a
decision
unit
e231
and
it's
the
trust
fund.
A
C
This
is
kitty
dissociate
chief
financial
officer
for
dieter
for
the
record
on
june
24th,
the
state
controller
informed
dieter
that
we
would
be
responsible
for
compiling
our
financial
statements
and
having
them
independently,
audited
prior
to
them
being
rolled
into
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report.
C
B
C
Does
is
it
brings
theater
more
in
line
with
the
remainder
of
the
state
agencies
who
have
an
independent
enterprise
fund,
so
the
the
comprehensive
unemployment
fund
is
outside
of
the
executive
budget
and
it
needs
to
be
audited
and
accounted
for
in
accordance
with
those
guidelines.
B
C
Have
to
defer
to
the
state
controller,
I'm
not!
I
would,
and
I
I
don't
think
it
would
actually
have
to
comply
with
gatsby
per
se.
But
again
I
would.
I
will
get
back
to
you
and
reconfirm
with
the
state
controller
on
the
the
regulatory.
A
Okay,
it
just
seems
to
me:
it's
been
done
in
that
shop.
It
got
done
well
now
we're
transferring
it
out.
So
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
do
with
everything
that
you
have
to
do
over
the
next
couple
of
years
is
add
on
a
task
that
could
end
up
causing
issues
down
the
road.
So
my
other
question
would
be
the
the
new
deputy
director.
This
one
has
been
an
issue
off
and
on
for
a
number
of
years,
because
of
the
way
the
deputy
director
is
is
funded.
A
So
if
you
could
just
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
the
because
there
is
an
assistant
to
the
director
right
now
that
can
handle
some
functions.
So
would
there
still
be
an
assistant
or
would
the
new
deputy
take
place
of
the
assistant.
G
Thank
you.
This
is
alisa
cafareta
for
the
record.
Yes,
it's
the
the
latter.
We
are
asking
to
reclassify
the
assistant
to
the
director
position
to
a
deputy
director
position,
which
is
why
you
see
the
the
amount
here
which
isn't
a
full
salary,
but
it's
just
the
the
difference.
G
So
we
would
not
have
that
assistant
to
the
director
position,
but
would
clearly
have
two
deputy
directors
who
were
responsible
for
on
one
side,
the
program
areas
and
and
helping
guide
that
team
and
then
the
second
deputy
director
would
be
responsible
for
what
I
consider
sort
of
operations,
so
the
it
department
or
idp
as
we
call
it.
G
The
audit
function
one
of
the
pios
and
the
human
resources,
and
it
really
what
what
I
think
one
of
the
large
lessons
of
the
pandemic
has
been,
that
we
need
to
ensure
that
our
technology
solutions
and
our
staffing
solutions
can
work
together,
because
we
we
have
these
fluctuations
in
demand
and
staffing,
and
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
these
conversations
are
having
it
at
happening
at
the
executive
leadership
level,
so
that
we
can
coordinate,
coordinate
the
funding
streams
that
are
challenging
to
say
the
least
and
the
the
response
that
we're
putting
together
and
really
for
for.
G
I
think
for
dieter.
It's
very
important
for
us
to
have
this
this
level
of
conversation
at
the
executive
leadership,
so
that
we
are
doing
a
better
job
of
putting
together
long-term
solutions
and
strategic
plans
rather
than
just
putting
out
fires.
And
that
really
is
our
focus
for
the
biennium
coming
up
is-
is
putting
together
these
long-term
solutions
that
integrate
all
of
the
resources
in
the
best
way
to
provide
the
services.
Our
clients
need.
A
So
we
always
want
to
be
careful
if
we're
talking
about
an
upper
level
position
that
it
truly
is
needed
going
forward.
So
we
always
have
to
ask
these
questions,
and
this
will
have
an
impact
I
believe,
on
on
some
of
the
cost
allocations,
and
we
hope
we
pray
that
our
unemployment
gets
back
down
to
the
four
percent
level
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
A
So
we
have
to
make
decisions
based
on
the
future
of
where
we
think
we
might
be,
because
once
we
hire
someone,
we
don't
want
to
turn
around
and
eliminate
that
position
again.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
For
the
record,
might
I
could
clarify
something
that
assembly
carlton
was
asking
about
the
trust
fund
accounting
position?
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
something.
C
Make
clear
that
the
independent
audit
of
those
financial
statements
has
never
been
done
before
and
bringing
that
financial
statement
compilation
in
in
audit
underneath
department
of
employment
training
rehabilitation
is
actually
strengthening
the
internal
controls
for
the
state
and
providing
a
more
excuse
me
analyzed
and
compiled
set
of
books
to
to
roll
up
into
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report.
So
it
really
is
strengthening
the
ability
for
the
entire
state
just
wanted
to.
B
C
A
G
G
Capretta
for
the
record.
Finally,
3274
is
our
information,
development
and
processing
unit.
This
is
it
for
for
everyone
else.
This
says
this
has
16
intermittent
positions
in
the
idp
team
and
just
to
give
you
the
context,
we
really
have
not
added
any
staff
to
this
team
for
years.
G
G
This
is
the
team
that
keeps
ui
and
v
up
and
running,
so
they
are
miracle
workers
in
many
ways,
but
we've
made
a
lot
more
demands
on
them.
So
just
having
this
intermittent
support
to
get
us
to
implement,
all
of
the
new
programs
will
be
critical
for
us
continuing
to
catch
up
on
the
work
that
we
have
to
do
there
are.
There
also
is
a
tech
team.
These
are
the
folks
who
provide
tech,
support
for
field
services
and
the
help
desk.
G
Those
are
the
people
that
get
all
of
our
staff
online
and
up
and
running,
and
there
are
two
specific
positions
in
idp
that
are
assigned
to
the
fraud
unit
to
assist
with
the
fraud
work
we
are
doing
so.
The
the
development
team
and
the
tech
team
are
generally
funded
through
the
ui
grant
and
then
the
fraud,
the
the
two
who
are
assigned
to
the
fraud
unit,
are
funded.
75
percent
from
the
fraud
grant
and
25
from
the
the
the
first
one
is
the
pufa
fraud
grant.
G
A
G
Alisa
caferetta
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
we
do
feel
quite
confident
that
we
know
that
the
vast
majority
of
this
money
is
coming.
There
might
be
some
adjustments
up
or
down
a
certain
percentage,
and
we
could
look
at
ending
intermittent
positions
earlier.
G
If
that
were
required,
the
other
option
we
could
discuss
with
you
if
there
were
a
significant
change
from
what
we
we
believe
the
future
holds
is
the
the
department
of
labor
recommends
that
states
borrow
from
their
penalties
and
interest
funds
to
sort
of
cover
the
the
gap
between
the
time
that
you've
done
the
work
and
you
ultimately
get
your
above
base
award.
G
We
know
there
are
a
lot
of
concerns
about
using
the
penalties
in
interest
funding,
but
as
a
bridge
loan,
essentially
to
cover
short-term
work.
G
That
is
another
option
that
we
could
use,
but
we
do
feel
very
solid
in
these
projections.
A
B
B
Chair,
I
have
one
caller
in
the
queue
already.
I
will
go
ahead
and
cue
them
up.
Thank
you
call
her
with
the
last
three
digits
one
two
zero,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
stephen
cohen,
for
the
record
stephen
with
a
v
cohen
as
in
the
assemblywoman,
but
no
known
relation
I've
been
waiting
for
this
day
for
six
weeks,
since
I
found
out
when
it
would
be,
I
spent
so.
The
one
couple
of
things
I
want
to
highlight.
B
B
There
may
be
a
bill
coming
an
amendment
coming
on
it.
It
just
got
pulled
this
morning
for
the
second
straight
regular
meeting
day
of
the
committee,
so
stay
tuned
on
that,
if
not,
we
still
have
one
more
a
couple
of
other
at-bats.
That
kind
of
wouldn't
violate
single
subject
kind
of
I
think
we
need
to
as
we
recover
the
economy
give
people
with
disabilities
the
most
potential
opportunities
for
employment,
the
stats
in
the
presentation,
while
reliable,
we're
very
much
out
of
date.
B
People
with
disabilities
have
been
substantially
affected
in
employment
by
the
pandemics
and
if
rehab
leadership
knows
how
to
find
me,
and
the
committee
as
well
I'd
be
happy
to
be
part
of
those
discussions
on
how
to
better
include
folks
with
that,
madam
ch,
one
last
thing:
ui.
A
lot
of
the
issues
that
have
been
addressed
by
the
director
staff
are
also
happening
on.
B
Excuse
me,
the
regular
ui
side,
sad
to
report
that
the
supreme
court
rejected
my
amicus
submission
last
week,
but
I'll
make
the
same
offer
to
the
director's
office
in
terms
of
helping.
However,
I
can
on
a
pro
bono
basis
with
that
madam
chair,
thank
you
and
I
yield.
A
B
B
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair
and
vice
chair
sharing
the
committee.
I'm
sure
you
all
know
me
by
now,
I'm
totally
blind
and
I
used
to
be
a
vocational
rehabilitation.
Consumer
I
went
to
college
got
my
degree
at
university
of
nevada.
Reno
is
a
social
worker,
I'd
like
to
say
that
they're
doing
an
okay
job
to
assist
people
with
disability
I'll
give
them
that
credit.
B
But
it
was
an
uphill
bottle
battle
for
for
me,
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people,
my
colleagues
and
peers,
they
want
to
speak,
but
they
do
not
want
to
get
retaliated
against
because
they're
still
a
client.
So
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
all
of
us,
and
I
did
all
what
mr
stephen
cohen
said-
and
we
are
here:
people
with
disability
people
with
disability
of
nevada
reno
that
want
to
help
people
who
are
disabled
in
going
to
school
and
try
to
make
it
in
the
workforce.
B
B
So
please,
let's
have
our
place
at
the
table,
and
we
are
here
to
help
those
of
us
who
have
degrees
and
know
how
to
work
with
technology
assisted
technology,
and
I
would
want
to
bring
your
attention
to
their
website,
which
is
not
100
accessible
for
people
who
are
visually
impaired,
and
I
have
brought
this
to
their
attention,
but
it
has
remained
to
be
seen
to
be
accessible.
Thank
you
so
much
and
have
a
great
day.
A
D
B
A
Thank
you
so
much
so
with
that.
That
concludes
our
meeting
for
today,
and
I
would
like
to
thank
our
presenters.
The
committee
broadcast
staff
you're
always
wonderful
and
the
members
of
the
public
who
are
able
to
join
us
here
virtually
with
that.
Our
meeting
is
adjourned,
and
I
wish
you
all
a
very
productive.