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A
B
B
G
I
A
And
I
am
here:
will
you
please
mark
members
who
aren't
present
at
this
time
present
when
they
arrive?
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
today's
meeting.
We
will
be
hearing
five
department
of
health
and
human
services,
division
of
welfare
and
support
services
budgets.
Today,
before
we
begin
today's
meeting,
I
would
briefly
like
to
review
how
our
virtual
meetings
work.
The
legislative
building
remains
closed
to
the
public,
and
so
all
committee
meetings
will
be
held
virtually
committee
members
staff
and
everyone
else
will
be
participating
either
through
zoom
or
by
telephone
for
committee
members.
A
If
you
could,
please
remember
to
silence
your
phones
during
the
meeting
and
mute
your
microphones
while
you
are
not
speaking,
it
helps
to
minimize
background
noise.
Please
leave
your
cameras
on
so
that
we
can
maintain
a
forum
throughout
our
meeting
today
and
if
you
wish
to
ask
a
question,
please
just
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message.
A
Members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
testify
or
present
public
comment
will
have
the
option
to
call
in
or
to
submit
written
testimony
or
comments.
This
can
be
done
online
at
the
page
for
today's
meeting
on
nellis,
which
is
located
on
the
legislature's
website
in
the
same
place
that
you
will
find
today's
agenda
members
of
the
public.
If
you
you
have
the
option
to
submit
your
opinions
on
anything,
you
hear
today
online
and
sign
up
to
participate
in
the
public
comment
period,
which
will
be
at
the
end
of
today's
meeting.
A
So
with
that,
we'll
move
on
to
the
first
item
on
our
agenda,
the
first
budget
for
the
day
will
be
hhs
welfare,
which
is
101-232,
and
I
invite
administrators,
steve
fisher
and
his
staff
to
present
today's
budget.
Welcome
to
the
committee-
and
you
can
start
anytime,
you're
ready.
J
Good
morning,
madam
chair
for
the
record,
steve
fisher
has
served
as
the
administrator
for
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services
and
good
morning,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
our
budget.
This
morning,
I
have
with
me
in
the
room
to
my
left,
joe
garcia,
he's
the
acting
deputy
administrator
for
field
operations,
support
directly
in
the
middle
behind
me.
I
have
crystal
askew.
She
is
the
chief
over
our
child
care
program
and
then
behind
here
I
have
bart
london
he's
our
chief
I.t
manager
and
also
joining
us
on
zoom.
J
I
have
robert
thompson
he's
the
deputy
administrator
over
field
operations,
and
I
also
have
brenda
barry
our
chief
financial
officer
and
this
morning,
madam
chair,
our
plan
is
to
provide
the
committee
with
a
brief
overview
of
our
organization
and
how
we
do
things
here
at
the
division
and
briefly
step
through
our
case
load
and
then
jump
right
into
our
3228
budget.
Does
that
sound
good
to
you,
adam
chair.
A
And
mr
fisher
you're
just
a
little
low
if
there's
any
way
you
can
get
closer
to
the
mic
or
just
speak
a
little
bit
louder,
it's
a
little
hard
for
me
to
hear
I'm
not
sure
about
the
other
members.
J
J
J
J
Our
child
support
enforcement
program
operates
through
a
combination
of
nine
participating
district,
attorney's
offices
and
three
state
program
area
offices
to
access
our
public
assistance
services.
Customers
can
click
in
they
can
call
in
they
can
mail
in
they
can
come
into
one
of
our
19
welfare
offices
throughout
the
state.
J
The
most
efficient
way,
though,
is
to
apply
online
through
access,
nevada
customers
can
apply
verbally
over
the
phone
and
that's
been
working
well.
During
this
pandemic
time,
we
can
receive
applications
via
mail
or
through
dropboxes,
for
example,
and
really
the
final
method
is
in
person.
They
can
come
into
one
of
our
19
offices.
J
In
addition
to
the
19
offices,
we
do
have
an
outreach
team
of
35
case
managers
who
visit
129
different
locations,
providing
the
same
services
and
on
average
they
visit
64
special
events
each
year.
So
it
really
doesn't
matter
how
the
work
comes
into
our
agency.
Our
new
business
model
and
the
workload
management
system
provides
us
with
the
flexibility
to
manage
the
work
across
the
entire
agency,
for
example,
a
worker
in
elko
and
process,
an
application
for
a
customer
who
lives
in
las
vegas.
So
it
doesn't
really
matter
location.
J
J
I
do
want
to
thank
our
staff,
though,
for
all
their
hard
work
and
dedication,
and
also
like
to
thank
the
legislature
for
your
support
over
the
years
without
our
staff
and
your
support.
We
certainly
would
not
have
been
able
to
continue
providing
our
services
to
low-income
nevadans
during
this
pandemic.
J
Combination
of
our
new
business
model
and
technology
that
supports
it,
provides
us
with
this
flexibility
to
shift
our
resources
quickly
to
ensure
our
customers
continue
to
receive
the
services
they
need
just
an
update.
We
know
we
have
200
staff
that
are
helping
over
at
the
department
of
employment,
training
and
rehabilitation
they're
over
there.
Through
the
end
of
march,
they
processed
over
112
000
ui
claims,
helping
the
citizens
of
nevada
get
their
ui
benefits
so
kudos
to
them
as
well.
I
want
to
thank
joe
garcia
for
his
leadership
on
that
particular
project.
J
Step
into
our
caseload
projections,
certainly
caseload
drives
our
business
and,
as
we
look
back
over
the
past
11
months,
there
have
been
and
continue
to
be
many
variables,
such
as
waivers
endemic
programs
that
we've
had
to
stand
up
and
take
down
and
additional
ui
benefits
that
have
not
only
impacted
our
case
loads,
but
also
the
number
of
clients
and
actions
that
we
need
to
take
and
that
our
staff
need
to
process
to
project
these
caseloads.
The
department's
data
analytics
team
does
an
amazing
job
of
taking.
L
J
If
you
would
like
more
information
about
how
the
demographics
of
our
staff
tanf
medicaid
program
or
broken
out,
statewide
or
or
the
district
that
you
represent,
we
provided
a
link
on
the
very
last
page
of
our
presentation
to
the
2021
health
profiles.
Dashboard.
That's
amazing!
I
would
recommend
you
go
there.
I
was
created
by
the
department's
analytics
team.
It's
it's
fantastic!
J
J
next
slide,
please.
These
are
our
supplemental
nutrition
assistance
program
projections,
as
you
can
see
from
the
slide,
the
the
caseload
is
projected
to
increase
about
7.26
over
the
biennium
next
slide.
Please,
our
energy
assistance
program
is
projected
to
increase
about
26
over
the
biennium
next
slide.
Please
and
our
child
care
program
is
really
expected
to
stay
pretty
stable
about
one
percent
increase
over
the
biennium
from
the
base
year.
J
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
just
representation
of
a
pie
chart
you
know
comparing
this
biennium
to
the
governor's
recommended
budget.
We
are
requesting
a
12.5
percent
increase
overall,
an
8.5
percent
increase
in
general
fund
next
slide.
Please
it's
just
a
representation
broken
out
by
our
different
budget
accounts.
J
Next
slide,
please,
and
now
we
are
getting
into
the
first
budget-
account
the
welfare
administration
budget,
which
funds
the
administrative
expenses
associated
with
ensuring
public
assistance
and
the
child's
support
enforcement
programs
are
administered
in
accordance
with
federal
and
state
regulations.
So
our
first
next
slide,
please
our
first
enhancement
is
our
e
250
enhancement.
J
So
we
at
the
division
are
required
by
federal
regulations
within
our
federal
programs,
the
ones
that
I've
just
covered
to
send
notifications
out
to
our
customers
whenever
their
eligibility
changes,
we
need
to
notify
you
what
that
change.
Is
we
use
the
smart
com
software
as
our
correspondence
management
solution,
so
it's
the
software
that
actually
generates
those
notices
that
are
mailed
out
to
our
customers
and
so,
as
the
case
loads
increase
as
the
number
of
mailings
increase.
J
This
is
a
tiered
software
licensing
agreement.
So,
as
you
increase
in
tiers,
the
cost
of
the
licensing
goes
up.
Therefore,
we're
making
this
request
for
additional
licensing
moving
on
to
e275.
This
is
a
request
for
a
state
position:
social
services
program,
specialist,
we're
requesting
this
position
to
replace
a
current
contract
position.
J
J
The
tanf
program
is
a
block
grant
that's
approximately
43.8
million
dollars
in
block
grant
dollars
in
order
for
the
state
to
draw
down
or
receive
those
43.8
million
dollars.
J
Any
state
dollars
that
are
spent
over
and
above
that,
27
million
dollars
in
maintenance
of
effort
are
considered
excess
maintenance
of
effort
dollars.
Excess
moe
is
used
to
calculate
a
caseload
reduction
credit
and
that
case
load
reduction.
Credit
can
be
applied
to
the
state's
work
participation
rates,
so
this
position
will
be
responsible,
first
and
foremost
for
identifying
any
state
maintenance
of
effort
dollars
that
are
being
expended.
J
This
historically
hasn't
been
the
case
over
the
years,
and
this
is
probably
a
good
opportunity
for
me
just
to
update
the
committee
on
our
work
participation
rate
and
the
penalties.
There
are
two
work
participation
rates
that
the
division
needs
to
meet.
The
first
one
is
called
the
two
parent
work
participation
rate
and
that
percent
is
90.
J
The
second
one
is
called
the
all
family
work,
participation
rate.
That
percentage
is
50
percent
that
the
division
needs
to
meet
as
I've
discussed
before
the
division
has
been
penalized
just
over
20
million
dollars
due
to
failure
to
meet
the
two-parent
work,
participation
rate
going
all
the
way
back
to
2007
and
failure
to
meet
the
all
family
or
participation
rate
in
2007
and
also
in
2012
through
17..
J
J
So
the
all
family
work
participation
rate
was
met
in
2019,
with
what
I'm
going
to
call
is
a
raw
work.
Participation
rate
of
38.1
percent,
but
then
we
were
able
to
combine
with
that
the
caseload
reduction
credit
because
of
the
excess
maintenance
of
effort
dollars
that
we
received
during
2019,
which
equaled
a
case-led
reduction
credit
of
22
percent.
J
So
if
you
add
the
22
percent
to
the
38
percent,
we
actually
achieved
an
unprecedented
overall
family,
all
family
rate
of
60
percent.
So
we
met
the
all
family
work
participation
rate
in
2019,
while
dwss
has
not
met
the
two
parent
pork
participation
rate
goals.
The
majority
of
the
penalty
is
due
to
the
all
family.
J
So
this
is
an
important
and
critical
position
for
us
to
manage
those
maintenance
of
effort
dollars.
So
we
can
continue
to
stay
out
of
the
penalty
status
going
forward
and
we
can
focus
our
attention
on
more
important.
Things
like
you
know,
focusing
on
moving
families
off
of
our
public
assistance
programs
through
things
like
work
activities.
J
Both
washoe
county
and
clark
county
contribute
a
substantial
amount
of
maintenance
of
effort
dollars
to
the
canada
program
because
they
expend
some
dollars
on
their
child
welfare
programs
that
meet
the
purposes
of
tariffs
who
are
able
to
utilize
that
for
our
maintenance
of
effort.
So
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
fund
the
emergency
assistance
program
going
forward.
J
Our
enhancement
278
inventory,
so
our
current
inventory
tracking
system
is
very
antiquated.
It's
manual
essentially
folks
have
to
go
around
and
write
down.
You
know
we
have
these
barcodes
on
these
machines,
but
they
have
to
physically
write
down
what
the
number
is
versus
we're.
Looking
for
a
new
efficient
inventory
tracking
system,
where
we
can
scan
those
barcodes,
we
can
automate
that
process
and
certainly
increase
productivity
and
obviously
the
quality
as
well.
J
So
that's
what
this
decision
unit
is
our
enhancement,
5
5
2
is
a
request
for
this
is
a
technology
investment
request
to
automate
the
the
medicaid
waiver
eligibility
process.
The
home
and
community
based
services.
Waiver
provides
medicaid
funding
for
home
and
community-based
services
to
individuals
who
otherwise
would
meet
the
eligibility
requirements
for
medicaid-funded
institutional
care.
J
It
requires
physical
documentation,
written
approval
by
multiple
dhhs
divisions,
using
things
like
interoffice
mail
and
email
to
transfer
this
information
back
and
forth.
The
time
staff
spend
forwarding
information
between
the
three
agencies
causes,
delays
and
process
case
processing
and
the
customer
access
to
care.
J
J
E683,
this
request
holds
12
vacant
positions
open
in
fiscal
year
2022
and
then
reinstates
those
positions
in
fiscal
year.
2023
we
do
have
six
quality
control.
Specialist
positions
and
we'd
also
include
three:
it
positions,
one
in
personnel
and
one
social
services
program
specialist,
the
six
position,
the
six
quality
control
specialists
do
have.
I
think
five
of
them
do
have
are
filled.
Currently.
J
However,
when
we
took
a
look
across
the
agency
when
we
were
doing
our
12
budget
cuts,
we
were
looking
for
positions
where
if
this
were
to
occur,
these
people
would
have
a
place
to
go
a
position
to
move
over
to
and
certainly
not
lose
any
pay
or
anything
and
just
continue
working
here
at
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services.
So
those
five
individuals
will
have
a
place
to
land
within
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services.
J
J
And
with
that
manager
that
ends
the
three
two
two
eight
law
for
administrative
budget
and
at
this
time
we'll
certainly
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
if
you'll
indulge
me,
I
have
a
couple
questions.
So
would
this
new
social
services,
contract
specialist
position
replace
the
existing
contract
staff
and,
if
so,
I'm
sorry,
I
thought
I
decided
to
add
the
second
part
there.
So
if
so,
is
that
expenditure
an
offset
included
in
this
enhancement
to
eliminate
the
expenditures
for
contract
staff?
J
To
your
first
question
is:
yes,
the
contract
position
will
go
away.
However,
we
will
give
certainly
preferential
treatment
to
that
particular
individual
to
hire
her
as.
E
J
State
into
the
state
position,
however:
yes,
it's
a
100
federally
funded.
I
don't
know
for
sure
if
it
completely
offsets.
I
know
when
we
contract
with
contract
staff,
we
try
to
keep
the
salaries
the
same
with
regards
to
state
versus
contract,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
you
add
in
all
the
additional
benefits
and
so
on
and
the
cost
of
some
it's
an
even
split.
I
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question.
Perhaps
brenda
berry,
our
chief
financial
officer
might
be
able
to
answer
that
question.
E
B
Services
and
I
believe
what
you're.
A
Trying
to
or
what
you're
asking
is,
if
we,
if
we
reduced
that
decision
unit
by
the
contract
staff
member,
is
that
what
you're
asking
yes
and.
B
E
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
follow
up
madam
chair.
What
what
specific
changes
to
federal
rules
or
regulations
have
occurred
that
have
increased
the
division?
Workload.
J
E
J
Another
program
that
was
stood
up
from
fns
was
the.
I
call
it
an
emergency,
it's
the
emergency,
snap
benefits
and
basically
that
was
adding
an
additional,
adding
your
snap
benefits
up
to
the
maximum
allotment
amount,
and
so
that
was
just
another
program
that
we
stood
up
and
also
created
additional
workload
for
our
staff
to
process
those
cases
and
then
just
recently,
they
just
passed
an
act
and
they
are
increasing
the
snap
benefits
by
15
between
january
and
june
and
anytime.
We
go
out
and
increase
benefits
that
creates
additional
workload
for
our
staff.
J
That's
in
the
snap
program,
let's
see
in
the
medicaid
program,
in
order
for
the
state
of
nevada
to
receive
the
additional
fmap
increase,
the
state
had
to
agree
to
not
remove
anyone
from
the
medicaid
program,
with
the
exception
of,
I
think,
there's
three
reasons:
if
they
voluntarily
withdraw.
If
they
move
out
of
state
notifies,
they
move
that
state
and,
of
course,
if
they
pass
away,
they
would
be
removed
from
the
program,
but
we're
not
allowed
to
remove
anyone
for
the
program.
J
J
That's
additional
tasks,
additional
work
or
our
staff
in
the
medicaid
program,
and
so
hopefully
I
think
those
are
all
the
areas
that
I
can
think
of,
but
in
addition
to
that,
in
the
child
care
program
during
this
pandemic,
there
were
many
changes
made
to
the
child
care
program
to
certainly
assist
those
providers
out
there
in
the
community,
as
well
as
those
individuals
that
were
accessing
child
care.
So
lots
of
changes
there
lots
of
additional
work
for
the
child
care
staff.
J
Certainly,
all
of
that
work
creates
some
additional
tasks
and
work
for
our
staff.
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
E
It
absolutely
does,
and
I
think
it
even
answers
my
next
question
I
was
going
to
ask
you
how
the
approval
of
these
two
positions
would
help
snap
and
taff.
So
I
I
think
you
answered
all
that
in
there.
If
there's
anything
you'd
like
to
add,
please
go
ahead.
I.
J
Think
the
just
the
canada
point
is
important
to
us
just
to
ensure
that
we
continue
moving
forward
and
we're
out
of
penalty
status.
J
E
I
appreciate
all
that
information
and
thank
you
for
all
you're
doing
for
our
most
vulnerable
community
members.
Thank
you.
F
Questions,
yes,
thank
you
so
much
chair.
I
appreciate
the
the
time,
so
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
your
comments
about
the
the
workforce,
participation
rate
program
and
certainly
had
concerns
that
you
know.
Essentially,
for
most
of
the
years
we
have
not
been
in
compliance
with
the
standards
since
2007
and
we've
just
heard
in
this
committee
over
the
last
couple
weeks
a
lot
about
it.
F
Various
work
and
training
programs
work
placement
programs
through
dieter
and
owen
and
go
ed,
and
you
know
so
forth,
so
just
wondering
if
you
could
help
and
us
understand
why
we
have
not
why
we've
had
so
much
difficulty
meeting
those
benchmarks
since
2007
and
what
options
we're
pursuing
to
make
sure
that
we
are.
J
Sure,
if
I
could,
I
would
like
to
ask
robert
thompson
if
robert
could
weigh
in
on
that
particular
question
around
work
participation
rates
and
you
know
the
background
going
back.
Robert-
are
you
on.
J
I
Good
morning
for
the
record,
robert
thompson,
deputy
administrator
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services,
but
when
we
talk
about
the
work
participation
rates,
there
are
two
different
work
participation
rates.
There
is
two
parents
work
participation
rate.
If
there
are
two
parents
in
the
home,
we
are
required
to
have
the
family
working
at
35
hours
per
week
in
accountable
activities,
regardless
of
barriers,
regardless
of
issues.
90
of
them
must
be
participating
35
hours
a
week.
I
It
is
a
success
measurement
that
was
set
up
in
1996.
That
is
somewhat
difficult.
I
Going
back
to
2007,
the
agency
was
not
meeting
a
work
participation
rate
for
the
two
parent
families
and
then,
as
mr
fischer
indicated,
we
did
not
meet
the
work
dissipation
rates
for
2012
through
2017,
but
what's
interesting
in
there
is
that
we
were
doing
a
lot
of
the
work.
I
We
were
not
taking
credit
for
all
of
the
work
that
we
were
doing
because
of
those
excess
maintenance
of
effort
dollars
not
being
counted
the
same
as
other
states,
we're
doing
it
and
not
being
tracked
as
other
states.
We're
doing
it
so
we
pulled
a
team
together
to
start
really
taking
credit
for
the
work
that
we
were
doing
in
all
of
nevada,
not
just
in
the
welfare
division.
We
became
successful.
D
I
F
Thank
you
and,
and
that
does
help
and
that
that
does
help
bridge
this
budget
account
with
that
overarching
question
is
whether
or
not
these
specialist
positions
are
going
to
help
us
with
that,
but
also
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we're
connecting
with
the
other
agencies
that
are
dedicated
to
getting
people
trained
and
upskilled
or
re-skilled
and
working
so
that
ideally
they're
not
on
these
programs
in
perpetuity,
so
just
always
going
to
be
interested
in
how
we're
connecting
people
with
jobs
to
be
able
to
get
back
up
on
their
feet
to
benefit
everyone.
F
So
I
think
just
that
does
answer
that
question
in
connecting
those
two.
I
appreciate
that
the
only
other
thing
that
I'll
just
say
is
that
I
I
know
that
there's
been
challenges,
sometimes
for
those
for
those
individuals
trying
to
meet
those
work
requirements
that
22
to
30
hours
a
week.
Child
care
has
been
an
issue.
I
know
we
did
some
creative
programs
with
tesla
with
the
tanf
funds,
and
that
was
an
issue,
transportation
and
child
care
and
so
forth.
F
So
I,
whatever
creative
ways
we
can
utilize,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
federal
funding
for
helping
out
with
those
child
care
needs
to
be
able
to
help
those
individuals
meet
those
benchmarks
so
that
we're
not
in
in
accruing
these
penalties
over
year
after
year,
I
think,
is
just
important
work
and
hopefully
that
specialist
position
will
be
able
to
help
make
those
connections.
J
J
They
took
one
of
their
workforce
representatives
and
put
them
into
one
of
our
welfare
offices
so
that
they
were
working
directly
with
our
can
of
clients,
as
they
were,
entering
and
into
our
camp
offices
once
again,
pre-covered,
but
the
starters
as
soon
as
things
open
back
up
again.
Certainly
we
will
be
right.
L
J
Out
there
doing
that
partnership
soon,
so
hopefully
that
helps
show
that
that
connection
between
our
program
and
the
workforce
development
system.
A
H
You
know
I
notice
in
your
proposal
on
these
positions
that
you're
going
to
bring
them
in.
It
says
grade
35,
step
seven
and
I'm
just
curious
on
all
other
hires,
and
maybe
I
didn't
notice
it
in
the
other
budgets.
But
did
we
specify
the
step
or
do
we
bring
employees
in
at
step?
One
when
we
add
a
position
or
do
we
normally
highlight
it,
that
it's
unique
to
a
higher
step
and
then
why
the
higher.
J
Step
good
question:
typically,
we
bring
we
bring
staff
in
at
a
step,
one.
It
all
depends
on
obviously
their
experience.
J
For
example,
if
we
were
to
and
I'll
just
use
this
as
an
example,
we
have
a
contract
position
right
now
and
she's
been
in
that
position
for
quite
a
number
of
years,
so
she
has
experience
she's
currently
doing
the
job,
she's
been
doing
the
job
for
x
number
of
years,
and
I'm
talking
about
the
snap
outreach
position,
the
one
that
we
would
like
to
replace
the
contract
position
with.
J
A
Thank
you
and
moving
on
to
e552,
we
have
a
number
of
members
with
questions.
We
are
going
to
start
the
questioning
out
with
assemblywoman
benitez
thompson
and
then
assemblyman
watts
and
assemblywoman
titus.
Thank.
B
So
often
I'm
on
the
department
of
welfare
website
and
hats
off
to
you,
mr
fisher
and
your
staff,
because
through
sitting
on
the
information
technology
advisory
board,
I
learned
that
your
website
is
one
of
the
ones
that
is
100
ada
compliant
and
it's
got
a
ton
of
data
on
there,
and
I
know
that
you
folks
have
worked
really
hard
with
eats
on
that.
B
That's
why
this
project
is
exciting
to
me,
because
you
see
how
modern
some
of
the
welfare
medicaid
and
all
that
data
systems
are
the
fact
that
we
can
see
case
loads
by
month
and
trends
by
month.
And
then
you
come
over
to
the
medicaid
waiver
programs
and
it's
still
like
a
carrier
pigeon
mailing
in
applications
and
paperwork
families,
bank
statements
and
then
the
carrier
pigeon
gets
shot
down.
You
got
to
start
all
over
again,
so
I'm
really
excited
about
this
modernization
project.
B
The
transparency
aspect
of
being
able
to
see
where
people
are
in
the
process
is
huge,
because
I
know
that
for
the
providers
in
the
community,
as
well
as
the
family
you're
just
trying
to
figure
out
where,
in
the
the
the
process,
people
land.
So
within
that,
can
you
put
onto
the
record
for
us
a
little
bit
about?
B
J
We
have
had
discussions
with
our
cms
partners
on
this
particular
project
and,
as
I
stated
earlier,
it
is
eligible
for
9010
funding,
so
we
are
certainly
very
positive
that
it
will
get
approved
for
9010
funding.
J
J
60
day
I
mean
we
could
we
could
update
the
apd
right
now
and
get
it
ready
to
go
so
it's
ready
to
submit
as
soon
as
we
submit
it.
The
60-day
clock
starts
ticking,
so
we're
talking
july
august,
then,
after
that
we
are
planning
to
hire
a
contractor,
an
I.t
contractor
to
come
in
and
do
the
work
for
us.
J
So
then
there's
the
contracting
process
that
we
would
have
to
go
through
to
get
the
contractor
to
bring
him
on
board
once
again,
I'm
just
thinking
through
the
process,
so
we're
probably
talking
between
july
and
you
know-
it'll
probably
take
about
it'll-
probably
take
one
year
and
guess
I'm
just
as
a
guest,
an
estimate
probably
one
year
from
start
to
finish.
B
It
does,
and
I
hear
you
feel,
express
a
level
of
confidence
about
the
fact
that
cms
will
kind
of
approve
the
90
percent,
but
on
the
off
chance
that
they
they
didn't.
Would
that
be
a
deal
breaker
for
this
project.
J
J
So
no
it's
not
a
not
an
end-all
be-all,
but
there
would
certainly
be
additional
work
to
find
additional
funding
if
the
910
was
not
approved.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
you
just
mentioned
the
contract
process.
As
part
of
the
timeline
I
was
just
wondering.
If
you
can
clarify,
is
the
contract
process?
Would
that
be
done
through
a
competitive
bid,
or
would
the
agency
utilize
an
existing
vendor?
Can
you
just
provide
a
little
bit
of
clarity
on
what
that
contract
process
would
look
like.
J
J
So
therefore,
yes,
we,
we
will
take
a
look
at
the
solicitation
waiver
process
and
then,
secondly,
if
that's
not
an
option,
we
would
then
obviously
go
out
to
rfp.
M
Great
thank
you
for
the
clarification
on
that,
and
you
know
I
think
you've
done
a
great
job
of
explaining
some
of
the
efficiencies
that
could
be
realized
through
this
project.
M
H
Yes,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
bart
london,
I'm
the
chief
I.t.
L
H
H
But
you
know,
as
we
do
anything
with
the
system
we
continuously
as
we
modernize,
we
can
continually
work
on
the
security
aspects
of
the
system
and
that
we
continually
report
to
cms
on
those
enhancements.
If
that
answer
is
your
question.
M
Thank
you.
I
think
it
does,
and
so
just
to
make
it
completely
clear
for
the
record
any
security
issues
that
are
discovered
through
this
ongoing
process.
You'll
work
to
make
sure
are
addressed
in
the
the
this
modernization
plan.
That's
correct.
H
Yeah,
that
is
correct,
bart
london.
For
the
record.
We
are
continuing
continuous
communication
with
cms
and
some
of
our
other
benefactors
to
make
sure
that
we
are
following
the
highest
levels
of
security
demanded
for
those
systems.
So
it's
a
continuous
process
and,
as
I
said,
it's
a
triennial
process
and
every
third
year
we
are
required
to
bring
in
an
independent
auditor
to
audit
our
system
and
report
those
findings.
So
yes,
it's
continuous
process,
but
we're
continuously
working
with
cms
to
make
sure
the
system
is
secure.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
have
a
couple
questions
if
I
might
first,
mr
fisher,
you
mentioned
about
notification
of
folks
and
if
they
pass
away,
who
notifies
you.
J
I
Have
an
audit
robert
thompson
for
the
record
that
we
received
that
notification
multiple
ways
through
from
direct
from
hospitals
direct
from
family
members,
but
we
also
run
a
death
match
through
social
security
and
social
security.
Does
automate
our
systems
with
what
we
call
alerts
we'll
get
a
lack
of
a
better
word
of
blip
on
our
system
so
that
we
are
able
to
go
and
update
cases.
When
we
find
out
that
someone
has
passed
away.
I
Robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
I
believe
those
batches
are
run
overnight
live,
but
I
am
sure
they
are
run
at
least
once
a
month.
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record:
no,
because
the
only
person
that
has
an
obligation
for
us
is
the
head
of
household,
who
is
normally
the
person
that
passed
away.
So
there
would
be
no
obligation
by
the
family.
G
Correct
so
the
only
monitoring
really
is:
maybe
your
once
a
month
matching,
so
I
just
wanted
that
clarified.
Thank
you,
then.
My
next
question
is
back
to
one
assemblyman
watts
touched
on,
and
this
is
the
rfp
process
for
this
e552,
and
this
is
almost
a
million
dollar
project
and
I'm
wondering
how
you
came
up
with
that
million
dollar
figure.
If
you
haven't
already
communicated
with
some
folks
that
may
be
doing
this.
G
G
J
We
have
an
internal
I.t
staff
here
at
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services.
We
do
many
different
it
projects
throughout
the
year
large
projects,
small
projects,
so
obviously
we'll
tap
into
those
resources
to
take
a
look
at
the
requirements
and
what
those
requirements
would
take
to
make
the
modifications
and
changes
to
the
system.
J
J
F
J
All
right,
I
don't
believe,
there's
a
mandate
that
says
you
must
go
out
to
rfp,
but
I
can
certainly
get
back
to
you
on
that.
G
C
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
I
know,
we've
been
on
this
one
for
a
long
time.
So
I'll
make
my
questions
as
brief
as
possible
and
mr
fisher,
I
I
just
need
to
get
some
some
clarification
on
a
couple
of
things
on
these
vacancy
savings.
This
is
just
a
one-year
savings.
Is
my
impression
in
reading
my
documents,
I'm
concerned
about
the
quality
control
specialist,
that's
an
audit
function
and
we
have
found
in
the
past
that
those
are
very
valuable
to
make
sure
that
things
are
getting
done.
The
way
we
need
to
get
them
done.
C
So
how
many
audit
positions,
how
many
quality
specialists
do
you
actually
have
and
you're
getting
rid
of
six
of
them?
So
how
many
will
you
have
left
and
then
what
impact
is
this
going
to
have
on
the
agency
and
be
being
able
to
pro
to
perform
this?
This
vital
function?
Yeah?
That's
a
good
question.
J
Thank
you
for
the
question
for
the
record,
steve
fisher.
I
don't
have
an
exact
number
off
the
top
of
my
head,
so
I
can
get
that
to
you.
Yes,
this
will
have
an
impact
on
our
quality
assurance
team.
No
doubt
about
it.
The
workload
will
have
to
be
disseminated
amongst
the
other
staff.
J
Of
course,
these
particular
positions
provide
quality
assurance
over
the
public
assistance
program,
so
they're
reviewing
cases
that
were
worked
on
by
eligibility
workers
to
ensure
that
the
cases
were
determined
eligible
from
a
quality
perspective
and
they
report
those
findings
to
our
federal
government,
and
so
yes,
these
are
certainly
critical
positions
and
once
again
the
workload
will
have
to
be
disseminated
to
the
others
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
don't
know
the
number
of
quality
control
specialists
that
we
have,
but
I
will
certainly
get
that
to
you.
C
And
mr
fisher
so
they're
going
to
transfer
out
for
a
year
will
they
transfer
right
back
when
the
funding
becomes
available
in
the
next
fiscal
year,
because
this
is
this
is
kind
of
odd
that
I've
seen
through
these
budgets.
We
have
one
year
vacancies
and
then
they're
being
filled
again
so
yeah,
so
that
person.
J
J
They
usually
promote
over
to
our
quality
control
specialist
because
they
have
all
the
expertise
on
our
public
assistance
programs.
So,
yes,
these
quality
assurance
or
quality
control
specialists
would
more
than
likely
move
over
to
or
back
to
a
family
service
specialist
position
and
then
after
one
year.
C
Okay
and
that's
that
that's
scared
that
I
I
have
concerns
about
keeping
a
position
vacant
for
a
year
and
then
bringing
it
back
so
there's
it's
just
a
weird
gap
year
there.
So
as
far
as
on
the
training
part
of
this,
how
much
will
this
affect
it?
Training
everything's,
constantly
changing.
I
have
to
be
retrained
on
all
this
stuff,
all
the
time
to
make
sure
that
I
can
even
operate
the
the
computers
that
are
in
front
of
me,
so
you're
the
reduction
in
the
training
expenditures.
J
J
Certainly
there's
also
training
that
our
staff
have
to
take
so,
for
example,
when
we
move
from
the
old
office
products
to
office
365,
certainly
it's
the
same
office
products,
but
there's
a
lot
of
nuances,
and
so
that
requires
possibly
training
so
yeah.
Certainly
anytime,
you
reduce
your
training
budgets.
J
C
And
it's
my
understanding
that
these
platforms
support
the
child
support
functions,
eligibility
payments,
things
that
are
pretty
vital
to
our
constituents.
J
Oh
yes,
the
platforms.
Yes,
the
the
system
supports
our
family
service
specialists
who
determine
eligibility
as
well
as
the
child
support
enforcement
system
as
well.
That
is
correct.
A
J
I
So
good
morning,
for
the
record,
I'm
robert
again
robert
thompson,
deputy
administrator
for
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services
slide
15
is
an
overview
of
our
temporary
assistance
for
needy
families.
Tanf
is
one
of
the
programs
that's
under
my
purview,
as
mr
fischer
already
indicated,
the
temporary
assistance
for
needy
families
program
is
really
designed
to
care
for
dependent
children
in
their
home
or
in
the
homes
of
relative
caregivers.
I
The
tanf
program
covers
cash
assistance,
workforce
development
and
other
activities
throughout
nevada
that
meet
the
four
purposes
of
of
tanf,
as
set
in
federal
guidelines
for
nevada
you
to
utilize
the
town
of
dollars.
The
division
must
ensure
that
the
funds
are
being
expended
to
support
families
with
minor
children
and
the
language
of
the
four
bullet
points
that
I'm
going
to
give
are
direct
out
of
federal
government.
I
Some
of
this
language
may
sound
antiquated,
just
reminding
that
it
was
set
up
in
96,
and
this
is
federal
language.
The
four
purposes
require
that
to
allow
children
to
be
carried
in
the
homes
or
the
homes
of
relatives
to
end
the
dependence
of
needy
families
on
government
benefits
by
promoting
job
preparation,
work
and
marriage
prevent.
H
I
Require
that
the
families
be
working
to
meet
certain
work
requirements.
I
Depth
a
little
bit
of
that
during
the
q
and
a
session,
so
I
won't
take
up
your
time
unless
later
on,
you
want
me
to
go
back
into
that
further.
J
I
Slide
16
is
really
tied
to
our
case
load.
Mr
fisher
talked
about
caseload
and
this
request
the
funding
showing
the
the
current
decline
and
then
a
small
increase
later
next
slide.
Please.
I
The
slide
17
talks
about
our
enhancement
units
enhancement
unit,
280,
request
funding
to
identify
a
vendor
who
will
support
a
vocational
training
program
for
low-income
youth,
and
this
approach
is
actually
a
two
generation
approach
in
tanf
to
assist
us
with.
We
use
canada
a
lot
to
assist
the
adults,
but
we
don't
necessarily
use
enough
of
our
tanf
to
assist
the
next
generation
to
make
sure
that
they
come
out
of
poverty
and
stay
out
of
poverty.
I
This
approach
is
designed
to
fight
a
prop
by
poverty,
but
also
fight
the
future
possibility
of
poverty,
and
in
this
program
we
provide
mentorship
skills
and
training
to
guide
a
high
school
student
who's
likely
at
risk
of
dropping
out
toward
a
trade
towards
schooling,
and
sometimes
even
the
the
final
goal
could
be
military.
I
E-Minute
350
request
funding
for
nurse
family
partnership
to
allow
trained
public
health
nurses
to
conduct
one-on-one
home
visits
to
first-time
low-income
participating
mothers
and
their
children
to
reinforce
positive
maternal
behaviors
focus
on
prenatal
care
care
for
the
infant
and
encourage
emotional,
physical,
cognitive
development
of
these
young
children.
The.
I
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
could
you
provide
an
update
on
the
town
of
cash
assistance
caseload
and
what
factors
are
contributing
if
it's
a
weird
year
right
with
the
pandemic
and
everything
that
happened
in
2020,
so
it
seems
like
they're
leveling
off
so
can
you
just
give
us
some
context
and
perspective
on
that.
I
So
the
talent
case
load
did
drop
this
year,
which
was
completely
unexpected
for
us.
We
we
saw
our
other
case
loads
increase.
What
we
saw
a
tenant
decrease.
I
believe
tanf
is
in
the
range
of
approximately
twenty
thousand.
Excuse
me,
approximately
seventeen
000
recipients
at
this
time,
one
of
the
biggest
factors
that
we
have,
we
believe
isn't
just
impacting
that
caseload
and
causing
the
drop,
is
that
unemployment
is
improving
differently
than
it
ever
did
in
the
past.
I
I
If
the
base
unemployment
is
higher
than
the
tanf
payment
rate,
they're
not
eligible
for
tanf,
so
we
do
believe,
that's
contributing
to
it.
We've
run
recent
data
analytics
and
we
are
showing
a
240
increase
of
denials
and
removal
of
tanf
due
to
income
during
this
pandemic.
So
we
are
attributing
that
to
unemployment.
E
So
if
that
makes
sense
from
the
unemployment
standpoint,
but
for
an
individual
who's
on
tanf
who
receives
just
one
of
those
one-time
stimulus
payments
so
like
the
1200
or
the
600
or
whatever
future,
does
that
bump
them
off
of
their
hannaf
or
snap
or
anything
else,
or
is
that
excluded
from
determining
income?
It
would
be
terrible
that
folks
were
having
to
drop
off
for
a
month
or
two.
I
No,
it
does
not
the
robert
thompson
for
the
record
of
the
one-time
payments
are
never
have
not
been
counted.
I
should
never.
I
should
not
say
never.
We
don't
know
what
the
future
bills
will
say,
but
previously
they
were
not
counted.
One
time
payments
are
not
usually
counted
at
all.
I
We
did
see
in
legislation
during
the
first
cares
act.
Customers
were
receiving
that
additional
600
a
month
of
unemployment
that
was
countable
in
the
food
stamp
program,
but
was
those
additional
money
that
are
now
300
are
not
accountable.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
like
to
ask
a
couple
questions
on
the
youth
training
program.
This
just
seems
to
be
a
bit
odd
in
this
particular
budget.
Tanf
is
based
on
helping
parents
succeed,
there's
a
lot
of
youth
programs
out
there.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
federal
money
through
all
different
other
types
of
youth
training
programs,
I'm
just
a
little
concerned
that
we're
using
very
valuable
tanf
dollars
that
could
be
going
to
child
welfare
and
other
places
for
a
a
training
program.
C
So
if
you
could
just
elaborate
on
where
this
came
from
and
why
we
would
use
precious
tanf
dollars
that
have
not
been
increased
for
20
years
for
a
program
that
could
be
funded,
someplace
else.
I
I
Robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
I
I
completely
understand
what
you're
saying
the
conversations
for
this
type
of
program.
We've
been
having
conversations
with
our
canon
partners,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
conversations
about
the
second
gen
approach
of
us
using
canon
dollars
to
assist
teenagers
they're
on
janet
to
make
sure
that
they,
they
don't
repeat
the
cycle.
I
C
And
thank
you
very
much,
mr
thompson
and
I
I
totally
appreciate
the
work,
go
ahead
and
mute
yourself
and
get
that
cough
out,
so
I
totally
support
what
you're
trying
to
do.
I
just
don't
think
this
is
the
appropriate
budget
account
to
do
it
from,
and
I
just
have
concerns
so
do
we
know
who
this
sub-grantee
is
going
to
be
and
how
quick
we'll
get
up
and
running
existing
and
we
will
be
funding
an
existing
program.
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record,
the
plan
was
to
exist
to
support
an
existing
program,
but
the
existing
programs
have
not
been
identified
and
we
would
be
putting
out
the
public
for
public
input
on
whom
we
used.
C
And
thank
you
very
much,
mr
thompson
and
again.
Madam
chair.
I
support
the
idea.
Youth
training
is
very,
very
important.
It's
just
these
dollars
are
so
precious
and
have
not
been
like.
I
said
before
have
not
been
increased
for
20
years.
I
believe
dieter
probably
has
a
number
of
different
silos
where
dollars
can
be
used
for
a
program
along
this
line.
So
thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
A
B
Thank
you
so
much
so
my
two
are
really
quick
relative
to
queso
and
caseload
changes.
You
talked
about
the
number
of
denials
that
we've
had
do.
We
know
the
number
of
nevadans
who
are
no
longer
eligible
for
tanf,
just
because
they've
hit
their
five-year
lifetime
limit
for
those
who
have
who
have
the
lifetime
limit
and
who
aren't
otherwise
exempted
out.
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record,
I
do
not
have
those
numbers
in
front
of
me,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
we
have
not
seen
an
increase
on
the
number
of
people.
Timing
out.
Timing
out
has
never
been
a
large
percentage
of
our
our
10
of
case
little
drop-offs
in
nevada.
The
average
number
of
months
that
a
town
of
recipient
is
receives
benefits
in
nevada
is
about
14
months
and
the
lifetime
drop-offs
are
very
low
percentage
of
our
customers
that
we
lose.
B
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
that
and
then
real
quick.
If
you
could
remind
me,
I
think
we've
had
some
policy
changes
over
the
years.
For
some
reason,
I
I'm
uncertain
at
the
moment
so
in
the
work
requirements
for
the
tan
of
participants
can't
remember
how
much
education,
educational
work
is
allowed
to
be
counted
as
work
hours.
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record,
certain
education
benchmarks
are
allowable,
it
is
a
it
is
a
complex
program
and
it
gets
very
complex.
Persons
that
are
trying
to
achieve
their
ged
can
only
count
those
hours
until
they
reach
a
certain
age
and
after
a
certain
age,
it's
no
longer
accountable
unless
they're
working
30
hours
a
week
here
and
doing
their
ged
there.
I
So
those
benchmarks
are
set
by
the
federal
government
that
it's
not
a
education
is
education.
It's
it's
the
type
of
education,
it's
what
it's!
What
else
they're
doing
with
if
they're
working
and
going
along
with
education
and
it's
foreign
on
core
hours
and
it's
a
whole
holistic
model.
H
K
K
Funds
that
we
put
out
would
be
supplemental
and
not
supplanting
for
any
other
revenue
streams
that
are
coming
in
for
these
outside
organizations.
So
there's
probably
more
of
a
statement
at
this
point,
madam
chair,
but
I'll
leave
it
there.
Thank
you.
F
F
Yes,
okay,
great,
thank
you
and
just
if
you
could
just
discuss
some
of
the
the
primary
issues
that
this
program
seeks
to
address
and
how
the
participants
will
be
identified,
not
sure
if
we
covered
that-
and
I
do
have
a
couple-
follow-up
questions.
I
I
F
I
F
Great,
and
is
that
my
understanding,
it
looks
like
a
great
program
to
just
you
know:
go
into
homes
and
really
help
these
these
new,
first-time
parents,
and
is
that
use
that
comprehensive
the
comprehensive
model
of
care
is
that
yes,
it's
a
nursing
program
and
and
so
forth.
It's
a
medical
model
program
from
what
I
understand.
I
So
it's
the
nevada
family
partnership
is
it's
a
partnership
with
the
department
of
public
and
behavioral
health,
and
my
understanding
is
that
they
would
measure
they
would
have
measurements
of
success
in
the
areas
of
improving
maternal
newborn
and
child
health,
preventing
child
injuries,
child
abuse
and
neglect
by
having
nurses
in
the
home.
I
F
Thank
you.
I.
I
really
appreciate
this
having
served
on
a
task
force
for
child
abuse
prevention
many
years
ago.
This
was
one
of
the
recommendations
and
so
definitely
caught
my
eye
when
I
saw
that
this
was
on
our
list
of
things
and
and
eyes
on
those
kids
in
the
homes
is
so
incredibly
important
to
helping
reduce
child
abuse.
In
particular.
F
My
last
quick
question
is,
in
a
general,
broader
scope,
how
many
tanf
reserves
do
we
have
today
and
what
you
know?
What
threshold
does
that
put
us
at
sort
of
percentage-wise
in
terms
of
tanf
reserves
on
hand.
J
We
certainly
try
to
run
a
90-day
reserve
and
if
my
memory
starts
to
correct
that
90-day
reserve
would
be
about
15
million.
So
hopefully
that
answers
your
question.
F
J
B
Good
morning
this
is
brenda
berry
for
the
record.
I
do
not
have
that.
F
C
And
thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
for
recognizing
me
a
second
time.
This
isn't
actually
one
of
the
items
that's
here,
so
I
wanted
to
take
it
separately.
When
I
was
going
through
this
and
then
I
did
receive
some
communication
from
clark
county
about
them,
not
being
a
recipient
of
of
the
tanf
grants
right
now
in
the
past
they
have
been
a
partner
with
the
state
in
this
they've
provided
information
on
the
maintenance
of
effort,
and
I
I
was
just
wondering
where
we
are
with
that.
C
I
mean
we
just
heard
last
week
about
the
cuts
to
foster
care,
and
now
here
I
see
in
this
tanf
grant
that
those
dollars
won't
be
continuing
in
the
next
budget
cycle.
So,
mr
fisher,
if
you
could
address
that
because
that
will
have
significant
impact
on
the
children
in
washoe
and
clark
county
and
if
it's
better
taken
under
the
child
welfare
question,
that's
fine,
but
it's
actually
a
grand
out
of
this
budget,
so
I
wasn't
sure
where
to
ask
it
so
there
you
go.
J
Sure
thank
you
for
the
question,
as
I
testified
to
a
little
bit
earlier,
when
I
was
talking
about
the
work
participation
rate,
I
did
make
mention
that
both
clark
and
washoe
do
contribute
via
their
the
work
that
they're
doing
in
their
child
welfare
system.
They
do
have
dollars
and
that
they
are
put
into
the
child
care
welfare
system
that
can
be
used
for
maintenance
of
effort.
And,
yes,
we
do
receive
those
maintenance
of
effort
dollars
from
the
counties.
J
In
december
we
went
to
before
ifc
and
we
were
approved
for
5
million
to
really
restart
the
funding
to
clark
and
washout
for
their
emergency
assistance
program.
I
believe
that's
what
you're
referring
to,
I
think,
prior
to
the
great
recession,
we
did
provide
canada
funding
to
both
clark
and
washington
for
their
emergency
assistance
program
that
stopped
in
2008-2009.
J
We
did
provide
some
funding,
I
believe
in
2018
for
the
program
and
again
we
just
provided
a
five
million
dollars,
startup
for
and
and
going
forward.
I
can
commit
that
we
will
continue
working
with
the
counties.
We
want
to
continue
supporting
the
emergency
assistance
program,
so
hopefully
that
answers
your
question.
C
It
it
it
does,
mr
fisher,
I
appreciate
it,
but
if
it's
not
in
the
budget,
we
can't
do
it.
You
have
to
have
something
in
the
budget
to
be
able
to
get
there,
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
have
some
further
conversations.
This
is
just
two
weeks
in
a
row.
C
We've
seen
impact
to
these
types
of
services
in
the
two
largest
counties,
so
I
think
we're
just
going
to
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
global
discussion
about
how
these
dollars
are
spent,
and
I
know
there's
going
to
be
a
reserve
left
over,
but
I
also
know
with
some
of
these
enhancements
that
you're
looking
at
that
won't
necessarily
and
depending
upon
what
the
fines
are
like
work
participation.
C
A
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
have
the
question
mine's
on
regards
to
the
835
program
and
I
know
assembly
women
tolls
commented
on
it,
but
but
I
have
some
questions
regarding
the
the
funding
to
a
third
party
organization.
That's
going
to
provide
visits
from
public
health
nurses
who's
that
third
party,
that
you're
you're
contracting
with.
I
I'm
sorry,
it
was
muted
robert
thompson
for
the
record,
the
we
would
be
partnering
with
department
of
public
and
behavioral
health
under
dhhs,
and
it's
my
understanding
that
the
actual
vendor
has
not
been
identified.
G
So
you're
trying
you're
gonna
find
a
third
party.
Somebody
else
is
going
to
find
that
third
party,
for
you,
you
don't
know
who
that
is,
I'm
I'm
just
curious
about
the
whole
global
concept
of
that
that
staffing,
those
nurses,
the
availability
and
so
I
have
concerns,
and
I
would
love
to
see
more
details
as
this
moves
forward.
If
indeed
it
does,
because
I
think
it's
a
conceptually.
G
Everybody
wants
great
prenatal
care,
but
I
have
concerns
then
the
my
next
question
is
under
you:
under
your
eligibility
for
this
and
and
the
whole
thought
processes
you
have.
How
are
you
going
to
find
these
folks
that
you
identify-
and
although
I
I
appreciate
assembly
woman,
tolls's
comments
regarding
hey,
this
is
something
that
was
identified
to
help
with
child
abuse
etc.
G
A
lot
of
these
questions
and
criteria
require
that
the
recipient
participate
in
that.
So
I'm
wondering,
if
you're
going
to
require
that
they
feel
I
know
it's
a
volunteer.
They
have
to
agree
to
do
this,
but
you're
asking
about
tobacco
use
you're
asking
about.
Did
their
students
have
low
achievement
scores?
Do
they
have
disabilities?
All
these
things
are
fairly
personal.
I'm
just
wondering
about
those
questions,
and
my
final
question
is:
have
you
modeled
this
after
any
other
states
that
do
these
programs
their
success
rate?
G
What
they've
accomplished
and
I'd
really
like
to
see
a
much
more
detailed
breakdown
of
this
type
of
program?
It
sounds
great,
but
then
reality
the
devil's
in
the
details
and
I'd
love
to
see
what
you're
modeling
after
and
their
success
rates,
their
participant
rate
because
there's
a
whole
there's.
A
a
lot
of
money
is
being
spent
all
with
good
intentions,
but
there's
other
programs
that
are
so
needy
of
funds
that
have
established
results
that
this
sounds
great,
but
I'm
just
really
have
huge
concern.
G
I
So
robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
the
the
modeling
was
discussed
through
the
department
of
public
and
behavioral
health,
with
everything
that
you
talked
about
was
the
measurements
of
outcome,
and
there
was
data-based
success
benches
that
were
modeled
after
other
states.
I
would
have
to
ask
just
to
see
if
mr
fisher
could
jump
in
at
this
time.
I
don't
have
the
specifics
in
front
of
me
that
you're
asking
and
we
could
pull
them
together
and
send
them.
J
The
record
this
is
steve
fisher
for
the
record,
we'll
be
happy
to
get
together
with
a
representative
from
public
and
behavioral
health
and
sit
down
with
you
and
certainly
share
the
evidence-based.
It's
an
evidence-based
model
that
is
occurring
in
other
states,
so
we'll
be
happy
to
sit
down
with
you
and
share
that
information
with
you.
If
that
will
work.
G
I'd
appreciate
that
and
I'm
sure
that
the
through
the
chair
would
would
like
to
see
some
details.
Also
again,
these
sounds
like
sound
like
great
ideas,
but
then
seeing
how
they
work
best
use
for
our
dollars.
How
will
those
are
the
questions
I
want
to
know
or
answers?
I
I
need.
How
do
people
sign
up
it's
a
big
invasion
of
some
of
their
privacy?
Some
of
these
questions
and
qual.
G
You
know
qualifications
to
the
program
and
then
outcome
data,
those
those
would
be
the
things
certainly
I
would
looking
for,
and
maybe
others
would
want
more
questions,
but
definitely
definitely
would
need
some
more
details,
and
I
I
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
question.
Looking
forward
to
further
conversation.
G
A
You
and
when
you
do
gather
that
data
together,
if
you
could
send
it
to
our
committee
secretary,
so
every
member
on
our
committee
can
get
that
information,
and
I
think
we
have
a
follow
up
with
that
will
end
this
budget
with
assembly,
morgan,
benitez,
thompson.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chairwoman,
and
I'll
be
really
quick,
so
very
enthusiastic
about
this
program.
As
someone
you
know
in
my
profession,
we
talk
a
lot
about.
You
know
the
theory
of
a
person
in
their
environment,
and
so
when
you
meet
people
where
they
are
and
you're
providing
support
in
their
environment,
you
just
get
such
better
results.
So
taking
nurse
and
support
into
home
for
mom
and
baby
is
wonderful.
B
I
guess
the
one
thing
I
want
to
put
on
the
record,
and
as
we
have
discussions
about
this
program
is
just
whether
or
not
we
want
in
the
language.
To
specifically
say:
nurses
like
a
registered
nurse
in
rn
or
if
we
want
to
leave
it
open
to
other
licensing
types.
I
just
think
with
the
the
shortage
of
our
ends.
It
could
be
very
hard
to
fill
this
and
we
launched
many
great
programs
only
to
come
back
two
years
later
and
realized.
We
couldn't
find
the
ftes
to
staff
them.
B
There
looks
to
be
a
clinical
piece
prior
to
the
during
the
pregnancy
that
I
imagine
and
rn
could
feel
but
post
birth.
It
looks
to
be
a
lot
of
coaching
on
good
habits
for
mom
and
baby,
and
so
that
I
I
just
think
we
might
want
to
perhaps
leave
it
open
to
different,
maybe
not
be
specific
about
different
licensing
specific
to
one
licensing
type,
but
really
leave
it
more
open
so
that
we
can
let
this
program
kind
of
organically
grow
with
the
resources
that
are
available
in
the
community
at
hand.
A
I
Thank
you
again,
robert
thompson
said
deputy
administrator
for
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services
slide
18.
I
I
On
hey,
thank
you.
The
slide
18
3233
is
what
we
refer
to
as
our
big
three
programs
within
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services.
This
budget
supports
our
ongoing
efforts
to
provide
a
safety
net
to
almost
800
000
nevadans
now,
via
our
family
services
specialist,
to
promote
food
security
and
health
using
our
tan
of
snap
and
medicaid
programs.
I
The
medicaid
program
includes
medical
assistance
for
the
age
blind
and
disabled
and
nevada
checkup
and
throughout
our
programs,
our
snap
and
tana
programs.
We
also
promote
a
workforce
development
through
those
employment
training
programs.
Next
slide,
please.
I
I
This
request
adds
226
positions
in
fiscal
year,
2022
per
our
staffing
methodology
that
we've
used
through
the
last
few
sessions
and
those
dependents
are
located
on
slides,
35,
36
and
37,
and,
as
mr
fisher
said
earlier,
we
have
included
in
slide
40
a
a
dhhs
dashboard
so
that
anybody
can
go
in
and
see
the
geographical
locations
broken
down
by
district
and
counties
of
the
population
we're
serving
with
this
increase
in
caseload.
We
are
now
averaging
over
192
000
unduplicated
tasks
per
month.
That's
up
from
144
000
tasks.
Last
legislative
session,
one
of.
H
I
Saving
graces
for
us
right
now,
though,
is
that
there
are
waivers
in
place
allowing
us
to
skip
the
tanf
interview
and
process
tanf
the
same
way
that
we
are
processing
medicaid,
so
the
average
time
per
task
is
down
to
41
minutes,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
are
even
possibly
staying
caught
up
at
all,
keeping
in
mind
that
we
are
not
really
staying
caught
up.
I
Our
backlog
right
now
is
double
the
norm
and
our
tasks
being
worked
are
almost
didn't
find
the
norm
of
what
we
are
this
time
of
the
month.
The
workload
is
just
coming
in
faster
than
we
can
stay
caught
up.
We
have
a
team
who
reviews
our
staffing
methodology
quarterly.
I
I
thought
this
was
important
to
talk
about,
because
there
was
conversations
in
the
past
that
that
if
we
received
226
positions
and
in
the
future
the
case
loads
started
project,
there
might
be
fear
that
nevadans
would
be
displaced
from
their
positions,
and
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
my
team
needs
quarterly
to
go
over
these
staffing
projections.
We
don't
wait
until
we're
building
for
legislative
session.
I
We
do
this
constantly,
so
we
know
far
ahead
of
time
if
the
case
load
looks
like
it's
starting
to
drop,
and
this
allows
us
to
pre-plan
and
never
be
in
jeopardy
of
having
anyone
displaced
or
laid
off
from
their
job.
If
the
case
looked
beginning
the
decline,
for
example,
last
legislative
session,
we
anticipated
returning
about
100
positions.
I
This
concept
is
being
modeled
after
new
hampshire's
recovery,
friendly
workplace
program,
the
workplace,
work,
recovery-friendly,
workplace
program
supports
their
communities
by
really
recognizing
a
recovery
from
substance
abuse
disorders
as
a
strength
and
works
intentionally
with
people
in
recovery.
Tying
recovery
to
employment,
a
recovery-friendly
workplace
program
encourage
a
health
and
safe
environment
where
employers,
employees
and
the
community
can
collaborate
to
create
positive
change
and
eliminate
barriers
for
nevadans
impacted
by
addiction.
I
Now
this
unit
would
be
designed
to
work
with
the
community
throughout
nevada,
to
identify
employers
who
would
be
willing
to
engage
with
persons
in
recovery
to
utilize
employment
as
a
support
system
for
the
person
living
with
a
substance
use
disorder
rather
than
employment
being
the
final
goal.
Historically,
employment
was
the
goal.
I
We
always
we
would
bring
the
neon
tanf
recipient
in
they
would
list
substance
use
as
an
issue
and
a
barrier
to
employment,
and
the
thought
in
the
plan
was
always
to
put
them
in
counseling
work
through
every
one
of
their
barriers
with
the
final
goal
of
being
employment.
Well,
under
this
concept,
work
becomes
one
of
their
resources,
and
we
now
know
that
employment
provides
support.
It
provides
purpose,
it
provides
you
a
place
to
go
every
day.
I
It
provides
a
goal
and
it
even
gives
people
an
additional
social
network
which
is
true
for
anyone
in
recovery
and
anyone
out
of
recovery
right
that
the
workplace
is
a
social
network.
These
new
tanf
specialists
staff
specialists
would.
H
I
Be
managing
the
tanf
recipient
who
is
living
with
a
substance
to
use
disorder.
We
have
licensed
social
workers
on
staff
who
do
that
we
would
not
stop
using
our
licensed
social
workers.
The
licensed
social
workers
are
the
one-on-one
case
managers
to
help
people
with
these
kind
of
significant
significant
barriers.
These.
I
Next
slide,
please
enhancement
unit,
228,
request
funds
to
increase
bandwidth
for
two
of
our
division
offices.
I
would
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
depth
without
that
I.t.
They
don't
have
enough
bandwidth
and
things
aren't
working
the
way
that
they
should
be
working.
I
Unit
685
is
a
significant
request
and
I
know
it's
going
to
create
a
lot
of
conversation,
so
I
thought
I'd
take
a
moment
really
to
dig
in
here.
This
request
is
to
eliminate
four
division
offices
and
three
of
those
division.
Offices
are
face-to-face
service
offices
and
maintaining
67
vacant
positions
throughout
fiscal
year,
2022
with
reinstatement
fiscal
year
2023.
I
This
enhancement
you'll,
have
an
impact
to
our
community,
and
this
was
because
of
our
12
budget
reduction
that
we
had
to
look
at
setting
37
positions
vacant
for
a
year
is
the
equivalent
of
an
entire
small
office
not
running,
and
it's
equivalent
to
more
than
an
entire
outreach
team,
and
holding
these
positions
open
could
contribute
to
reduction
timeliness
reduction,
accuracy
and
reduction
in
services
the
most
needy
and
vulnerable
of
nevadans,
I'm
also
as
part
of
our
12
budget
reduction.
I
We
have
analyzed
all
of
our
district
offices
to
look
at
the
locations
to
determine
which
offices
we
could
close.
That
would
have
the
least
impact
and
gardens
we
serve.
I
As
mr
fisher
said
previously,
dwss
has
19
front-facing
offices
throughout
nevada
that
provide
face-to-face
services.
Las
vegas
is
the
only
city
that
has
more
than
one
office
available
to
the
public
elko
ely
reno
sparks.
They
only
have
one
office.
So
when
we
looked
at
where
to
close
offices
that
had
to
be
las
vegas
of
the
19
offices
that
offer
face-to-face
services,
10
of
those
are
located
in
las
vegas
and
all
of
the
office
closures
of
the
in
this
unit
are
located
in
las
vegas.
The
offices
that
we're
looking
at
are
warm
springs.
I
Warm
springs
is
a
processing
center
and
it
has
no
contact
with
the
public.
Decatur
is
a
small
office
located
at
decatur
north
215
in
north
las
vegas,
and
it
was
opened
in
2014
as
part
of
the
affordable
care
act.
Expansion
and
the
nearest
office
to
that
is
the
craig
office,
which
is
about
four
miles
away
spring
mountain
is
an
office
located
at
spring
mountain
and
I-15,
and
that's
in
central
las
vegas
also
opened
around
2014
as
part
of
the
affordable
care
act.
I
I
It
opened
around
the
same
time
as
the
others.
The
closest
office
to
durango
is
flamingo,
which
is
10
miles
away.
A
straight
shot
down
flamingo
10
miles.
Bellrose
is
also
10
miles
away
to
offset
and
mitigate
in
and
continue
face-to-face
services
for
our
customers
throughout
las
vegas.
I
Dwss
would
constantly
be
evaluating
with
our
partners
to
expand
our
outreach
sites
and
not
just
in
las
vegas,
but
throughout
all
of
nevada,
to
continue
providing
face-to-face
contact
and
non-traditional
access
points
that
would
be
postcoded
and
also
keeping
in
mind
that
anybody
can
apply
online
for
benefits.
Our
actions,
approvals
and
updates
can
be
addressed
anywhere
in
the
state,
as
mr
fischer
said
earlier,
and
I
would
like
to
open
for
any
questions
for
3233.
A
M
Madam
chair,
I
appreciate
some
of
the
context
that
you
already
provided
on
the
review
of
caseloads
and
and
the
quarterly
updates
to
that
and
how
it
relates
to
your
staffing.
M
I'm
also
looking
at
some
of
the
caseload
projections
and
saw
the
large
projected
change
between
fy20
and
fy21
for
medicaid,
in
particular,
also
energy
assistance
and
then
some
large
projected
caseload
growth
in
fy
22
for
chip
and
energy
assistance.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
provide
an
update
on
where
those
case
loads
are
at
and
what
factors
contributed
to
those
significant
projected
increases.
I
So
robert
thompson
for
the
record,
the
energy
assistance
program
is
a
separate
budget
unit
that
we
will
be
discussing
shortly.
But
energy
assistance
is
a
very
small
program
in
comparison
to
the
rest
of
our
our
programs
and
the
the
biggest
increases
that
we've
seen
are
medicaid
and
snap
we've
had
an
increase
in
applications
increase
in
need
and
in
the
medicaid
program
we
have
not
been
able.
I
We
are
not
allowed
to
shut
cases
down
unless
the
recipient
has
a
those
three
specific
reasons:
moving
out
of
state
passing
away
or
withdrawing
from
benefits
and
we're
not
seeing
anybody
withdrawing
from
benefits.
The
medicaid
recipient
number
is
reaching
right
at
800
000
and
I
believe
food
stamps
is
teetering
right
at
450,
000
and
mr
fisher.
If
he
is
speaking,
please.
J
Jump
in
well,
that's
the
number.
I
don't
have
them
in
front
of
me,
but
that
sounds
right.
Close
to
800
000
on
medicaid
and
407
000
on.
I
I
Medicaid
numbers
are
counted
separately
from
children
about
a
checkup,
so
you'll
hear
about
medicaid
and
then
you'll
hear
about
these
total
numbers
and
it
will
look
like
they're
off
by
about
20
to
30
000
and
the
difference
is
just
usually
nevada.
Techa.
M
Yes-
and
I
I
have
a
follow-up
I'm
here-
that
I
will
probably
get
some
more
clarity
on
this,
so
it
sounds.
M
Of
the
major
factors
is
the
the
narrow
list
of
specific
reasons
for
how
people
move
off
the
medicaid
rules,
particularly
for
that,
obviously,
the
economic
impacts
of
the
pandemic,
I
think,
are
another,
and
so
could
you
just
speak
specifically
to
how
the
pandemic
has
impacted
the
workload
for
the
field
services
budget
and
and
how
the
current
projections
look
at
that?
How
that's
going
to
change
or
not
change
over
the
biennium?
M
I
Robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
we
saw
the
the
sharp
increase
in
tasks
and
applications
and
workload
coincide
directly
last
march,
when
the
hotel
industry
started
laying
individuals
off
so
it
is
definitely
covered,
related
and
and
and
the
incoming
volume
has
been
increasing,
as
nevadans
are,
are
becoming
more
and
more
in
need.
We.
H
I
Know
from
previous
events,
I've
been
with
the
agency
for
almost
25
years,
and
we
saw
after
the
9
11
economic
event
and
after
the
2008
housing
bubble
economic
decline
that
the
welfare
division
is
usually
a
year
to
18
months
behind
the
recovery
as
the
economic
recovery
starts
happening,
the
welfare
division
does
start
seeing
a
drop
in
caseload,
but
it
can
take
a
year
or
two
year
and
a
half
before
we
actually
flatten
back
out
because
our
systems
are
built
in
so
there's
not
a
cliff
effect.
I
We
try
to
ease
people
back
off
depending
on
the
program
that
they're
on
other
projections
are
actually
done,
are
through
our
the
office
of
data
analytics
through
dhhs,
and
they
are
given
to
us
based
on
everything,
from
housing
sales
to
unemployment
projections,
and
they
put
all
of
that
together
and
put
that
in
the
packet
we
receive
the
same
packet.
You
do.
M
Thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that
additional
context
that
I
can
see
in
in
these
projections
the
sharp
increase
and
it
looks
like
I
will
continue
over
the
course
of
the
next
year
or
so
before
kind
of
leveling
off,
and
so
it
sounds.
L
M
That
is
also
consistent
with
with
what
we've
seen
in
previous
recessions
and
economic
downtrends.
So
thanks
for
the
clarification
on.
D
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
this
morning
on
this
budget
item
and
I
I
truly
appreciate
what
you're
trying
to
do
to
deal
with
your
increased
case
loads
and
and
you're,
adding
a
significant
amount
of
personnel
and
and
and
back
to
that
question
again,
I'm
looking
over
the
breakdown
of
the
226
positions.
I
see
a
variety
of
grades
in
the
administrative
assistant
and
multiple
grades
and
service
manager
and
family
service
specialist.
I
Robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
I'm
sorry
I
keep
pausing
to
see
if
my
administrator
is
going
to
jump
in
we're
not
in
the
same
room.
So
it's
hard
to
tell
who's
going
to
speak
robert
thompson
for
the
record.
I
We
have
a
staffing
methodology
that
and-
and
this
is
in
general
speaking-
but
for
every
10
family
services
specialist-
that
we
need
to
push
out
the
benefits.
We
need
a
supervisor
to
oversee
that
team
to
keep
it
going
for
every
20
family
services
specialists.
We
have.
We
need
one
lead
worker,
because
our
lead
workers
do
our
training
and
and
keep
keep
the
team
moving
with
updates
our
our
updates
come
constantly
and
that
leap
worker
is
the
specialist
of
the
units
we
for
every
80
to
160
to
120
positions.
I
We
need
a
manager
to
oversee
that
and
when
we're
looking
at
226
positions
without
having
offices
for
them
to
go
to,
we
are
planning
to
have
these
individuals
working
from
home.
We
plan
on
30
of
them
to
be
working
at
home,
the
same
as
they
are
today,
which
proven
to
be
a
very
efficient
model,
but
we
would
be
creating
for
lack
of
a
better
word
virtual
offices
and
somebody
still
has
to
oversee
those
when
we
use
our
administrative
assistants.
I
Those
are
also
built
in
to
the
to
the
model,
because
we
receive
a
lot
of
paper
and
our
paper
has
to
be
sent
out.
It
has
to
be
moved
around
and
what
we
built
is
a
model
that
uses
the
correct
job
classification,
so
we're
not
overpaying
a
family
services
specialist
with
our
tax
dollars
to
move
administrative
work
or
to
issue
ebt
cards.
So
we
have
a
grid
and
a
model
that
we
work
with.
That
says
this
many
family
services
specialist
that
you
need,
equals
this
many
supervisors
managers,
clerical
staff.
H
Yeah,
so
I
understand
that,
I'm
sorry,
that's
right!
My
other
I
mean
more
pointedly
is
like
for
a
breakdown
here.
You
have
33
administrative
assistants
at
a
at
a
grade
23,
you
have
seven
administrative
assistants
at
a
grade
25
and
then
one
at
27,
the
same
with
family
support,
specialists,
31
or
excuse
me,
160,
great
31
and
then
8
at
32
and
15.
You
know
obviously,
there's
supervisors
there.
So
what's
the
difference
between
the
two
administrative
assistants
and
the
two
family
service
specialists,
why
the
different
grade?
I'm
just
curious.
I
The
different
I'm
sorry,
I
I
didn't
understand
them
robert
thompson,
for
the
record.
The
different
grades
on
the
family
service
specialist
one
is
the
service
delivery
worker.
The
higher
grade
is
the
lead
worker.
It's
the
the
subject
matter,
special
subject
matter:
specialist
or
the
administrative
assistants.
We
have
different
levels
of
duties,
so
the
more
complex
the
duties
we
use
a
higher
level
specialist
for
administrative
assistant.
I
We
try
to
always
keep
the
lowest
level
duties
to
the
lowest
paid
position,
but
as
the
duties
become
more
complex,
we
grade
them
out.
Thank.
H
You
and
in
in
my
final,
madam
chair
and
I'll,
be
done
so
both
these
folks
can
come
in
a
variety
of
steps,
just
like
we
discussed
before,
based
on
their
qualifications.
I
Robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
is
our
practice
to
bring
them
in
at
step
one
if
they're
coming
in
off
the
street,
for
the
lack
of
a
better
word
internally.
If
they're
promoted,
they're
set
to
step
by
hr,
it
is
rare
in
three
two
three
three
and-
and
I
do
not
recall
doing
it,
except
for
once
and
twice
in
my
career
of
asking
the
administrator
for
an
exception
to
bring
somebody
in
above
step.
One.
A
Thank
you,
senator
ratty,
did
you
have
any
questions
on
this.
E
I
do
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you.
So
could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
model
that's
used
to
identify
and
address
caseload
increases.
I
I
think
that
that's
not
something
that
everybody's
familiar
with
the
third
party
and
and
how
you
really
work
through
these
case
load
increases.
I
So
robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
our
agency
uses
a
task
based
system
that
tracks
how
many
tasks
each
employee
does
every
fss.
That
works
is
in
this
system.
They're
always
working
the
system
and
we
can
track
how
many
minutes
it
takes
to
do
each
type
of
case
and
we
break
it
out
into
groups.
Tanf
cases
are
marked
the
most
complicated
complex
and
we
get
an
average
of
how
many
minutes
that
takes.
We
average
that
out
through
the
18
months.
I
So
we're
always
looking
at
an
18-month
period
and
we
determine
how
many
tasks
we
can
do
per
month
per
employee.
Right
now,
I
believe
I
said
we
were
processing
192
000
tasks
at
41
minutes.
Then
the
office
of
data
analytics
will
project
forward
and
they
will
come
back
and
say
we
project
in
the
that
I'm
going
to
make
it
up
right
now,
but
we
project
that
your
increase
is
going
to
go
up
by
six
percent.
E
Perfect,
thank
you
and
then
this
budget
recommends
35
positions.
That
would
start
on
july
1st,
which
oftentimes
we
don't
start
new
positions
until
a
little
later
in
the
year.
So
can
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
you
would
how
you
would
get
to
that
hiring
those
positions
and
if
the
projected
caseloads
don't
come
forward,
what
you
would
do.
I
Robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
the
first
piece
of
your
question:
we
have
an
academy
set
up
and
we
have
a
hiring
panel
set
up
that
the
hiring
panel
runs
constantly
because
we
normally
hire
every
quarter.
For
that
that
academy
to
start
our
our
hiring,
we
are
set
and
ready
to
go.
We
if
we
get
the
idea
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
hire
we
we
have
the
system
set
up
and
the
academy
is
set
up
and
we
are
ready
to
go
to
hire
those
positions.
I
There
is
not
any
concern
on
my
part
that
we
couldn't
have
those
of
those
individuals
in
place.
We
opened
the
family
services
specialist
position
last
week.
We
anticipated
it
to
be
open,
I
believe
for
10
days
they
received
so
many
qualified
applicants
within
three
days.
Dhrm
closed
the
the
list,
so
there
is
a
need
for
people
that
want
to
come
to
work
for.
E
I
And
we
are
set
up,
hire
them.
The
second
part
of
your
question,
I'm
not
sure
I
understood.
E
I
Robert
thompson,
with
the
record,
if
the
case
load
growth
does
not
materialize
and
we
start
seeing
that
ahead
of
time.
We
would,
I
call
it
a
soft
freeze,
because
it's
a
it's
nothing
official
from
dhrm
or
the
governor.
It's
an
internal
soft
freeze
on
hiring
that
we
put
in
place
because
we
start
projecting
out,
and
we
know
that
we're
going
to
come
to
legislative
session
and
the
case
load
is
going
to
start
decreasing
and
we
would
never
want
to
place
any
nevadan
in
jeopardy
of
losing
their
position.
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record:
yes,
the
academy's
the
academy,
the
academy
itself
can
handle
96
positions
in
las
vegas,
there's
an
additional
academy
in
northern
nevada,
and
then
our
smaller
offices
such
as
elko
and
ely.
They
don't
have
academy,
they
do
on-the-job
training
or
they
link
in
virtually.
So
we
are
confident
that
we'd
be
able
to
bring
them
on
board
and
do
the
hiring
without
an
issue.
E
And
madam
chair,
can
I
ask
just
one
more
follow-up
question:
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
I'm
just
curious.
We've
heard
some
really
wonderful
things
about
having
some
of
your
team
over
at
the
dieter
offices.
I
know
they're
working
overtime
to
support
dieter,
but
how
that
is
then
giving
us
a
more
holistic
approach
with
some
of
these
individuals,
because
you
have
the
tanf
for
your
team
so
closely
working
with
the
unemployment
team
that
there's
some
problem
solving
that
can
go
on
there.
Are
we
taking
any
lessons
from
that?
L
Yes,
joe
garcia
for
the
record
acting
deputy
administrator
for
dwss,
so
first,
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
they're
working
in
different
systems,
so
our
staff,
their
200
staff
that
are
working
with
dieter,
are
working
in
two
different
systems,
four
meter
and
then
they
work
in
our
systems
here
for
vwss.
During
the
day,
the
biggest
takeaway
is
going
to
be
that
those
200
staff
we
have
work
in
the
overtime
are
going
to
have
a
very
good
familiarity
with
ui
or
unemployment
regulations.
L
Therefore,
when
they're
doing
their
dwss
job,
they
can
point
our
clients
in
the
right
direction
and
have
a
better
understanding
of
unemployment
insurance
regulations
and
probably
be
better
able
to
give
our
clients
an
idea
if
they're
going
to
be
eligible
or
not.
Certainly
they
can't
do
that
without
being
in
the
the
ui
systems
and
when
this
collaboration
ends
their
their
access
to
those
systems
are
going
to
be
closed.
L
L
We
are
certainly
going
to
be
able
to
talk
about
that,
because
all
of
this
is
web-based
so
our
staff
we
have
some
of
our
staff
working
from
home,
are
also
working
the
deter
overtime
from
home.
So
we
can
certainly
do
all
this
because
it
is
web-based,
but
each
division
has
their
separate
budgets,
their
separate
rules
and
I'm
not
sure
how
we
can
incorporate
that
theater
work
into
dwsss
work
and
vice
versa.
L
L
I
can
tell
you
right
now
about
how
that
collaboration
might
continue
or
benefit
of
the
clients
that
we
serve,
and
you
know,
unfortunately,
it's
only
200
of
our
staff
that
have
been
able
to
work
through
this
for
the
last
well
since
august
late
august
of
last
year
through
now-
and
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
E
H
Thank
you
chair.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
ask
a
question,
mr
thompson.
H
It
seems
like,
after
hearing
the
discussion
so
far
about
staffing
about
case
loads,
I've
heard
sort
of
your
equation
that
you
use
or
try
to
use
in
order
to
determine
your
staffing
levels.
It
seems
that
just
sort
of
projecting
how
many
case
loads
you
might
have
and
how
long
it
takes
each
person
who's
working
on
this
caseload
to
get
through
them.
It
seems
like
a
major
part
of
your
job.
Just
you
know
the
projection
part
of
it,
but
it
seems
like
that's
one.
H
Half
of
you
know
of
the
staffing
equation
is
trying
to
figure
out
how
many
cases
or
how
many
cases
you
might
have
in
this
in
the
future,
based
on
circumstances
that
you
guys
have
probably
a
better
idea,
but
I
want
to
go
back
to
what
something
when
watts-
and
I
think
senator
ratty
had
kind
of
talked
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
about,
and
that's
you
know
talking
about
how.
How
do
you
determine
the
case
loads
when
it
comes
to
do
the
decrease
in
the
case
loads?
H
You
mentioned
that
there's
three
ways
that
caseloads
could
go
down,
one
of
which
doesn't
happen
at
all
and
that's
when
somebody
asked
not
to
have
benefits,
but
the
other
two
were
if
somebody
passes
away
or
somebody
moves
out
of
state.
So
as
I
was
listening
to
that,
it
begged
the
question.
To
my
mind,
how
do
you
know
when
somebody
moves
out
of
the
state
or
when
somebody
passes
away?
H
H
How
fast
you
learn
when
somebody
moves
out
of
state,
because
you
know
to
me,
it
seems
like
this
is
really
important
for
you
to
be
able
to
project
the
decrease
in
the
cases
I
mean
one
part
of
your
equation
is
projecting
increases,
but
the
other
one
is
projecting
the
decreases.
So
if
you
can
enlighten
me
because
I'm
new
to
this,
I
don't
think
I've
ever
heard.
The
explanation.
I
Robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
so
to
be
clear
what
we're
talking
about
when
we're
talking
about
the
projections
that
we're
moving
forward
for
the
next
18
months,
projections
are
done
by
the
office
of
data
analytics
and
they're.
Looking
at
the
holistic
view
of
the
economy,
and
they
feed
back
to
us
what
they
have
determined,
the
number
of
nevadans
will
be
on
need
in
the
future.
I
I
determine
how
many
staff
I
need
to
do
the
cases
that
we're
receiving
today
data
analytics
determines
what
the
future
increase
or
decrease
is
going
to
be
for
the
projections
when
we
talk
about
the
current
health
crisis
requires
that
we
cannot
shut
down
individuals
that
are
on
medicaid
unless
there's
those
three
reasons,
that's
really
a
short
term
through
through
2021..
H
E
I
I
did
verify
after
my
early
testimony
that
we
do
receive
a
monthly
batch,
it's
from
the
social
security
death
index
when
somebody
passes
away,
so
we
receive
that
on
the
fifth
of
the
month
and
that
goes
into
our
computer
system
and
notify
our
employees
when
a
person
passes
away.
When
somebody
moves
out
of
state,
we
don't
really
know
that
they
move
out
of
state
unless
they
tell
us,
but
what
normally
happens
is
the
person
who
is
on
assistance
will
apply
for
assistance
in
another
state.
I
So
when
they
leave
and
go
to
another
state,
we
have
connections
with
the
states.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
calling
each
other
and
we
have
a
national
directory.
So
when
somebody
is
new
to
las
vegas,
we
have
to
call
california
to
make
sure
that
they
shut
down
their
case
in
california.
So
when
we
call
that's
california's
trigger
to
shut
them
down,
we
have
the
same
trigger
here.
They
can't
approve
food
stamp
benefits
in
that
state
until
they've
talked
to
us.
So
when
we
get
that
phone
call,
we
trigger
the
case.
H
That's
really
helpful,
and
actually
you
did
answer
the
question
exactly
what
I
what
I
was
hoping
you
would
say,
but
the
question
I
have
for
you,
the
follow-up.
If
you
don't
mind,
madam
chair
is,
if
somebody
moves
to
another
state
but
doesn't
apply
for
unemployment
in
that
state
or
not,
I'm
sorry,
not
unemployment
but
benefits.
How,
then,
would
you
ever
know
and
that's
just
a
curiosity
question
and.
I
Necessarily
know
until
we
send
them
that
annual
redetermination,
that's
why
we're
required
by
federal
law
to
touch
base
at
least
once
a
year.
In
some
cases
we
do
receive
returned
mail
and
if
we
receive
returned
mail,
we
can
see
that
somebody
moved
out
of
state
and
use
that
as
a
contact
to
reach
out
to
the
family
and
say:
are
you
out
of
state
now
and
then
shut
it
down?
C
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
I
know
we
are
running
behind
a
little
bit
so
I'll
try
to
make
these
brief
on
the
10
new
positions
for
the
new
recovery
through
employment
unit.
I
I
really
appreciate
this
budget
recovery.
Centered
workplaces
are
going
to
be
key
for
a
lot
of
folks.
We've
had
people
who've
had
some
issues
over
this
past
year,
maintaining
their
sobriety
and
being
able
to
stay
where
they
needed
to
stay,
and
we
know
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
in
the
future.
C
So
I
do
appreciate
what
you're
trying
to
do
a
job
does.
Center
people
just
going
to
treatment,
doesn't
work
when
they've
got
a
place
to
go
to
every
day
and
get
work
done,
it's
very
valuable
to
those
folks.
So
it's
not
that
I
don't
support
it.
It's
just
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
the
right
funding
mechanism.
As
I
said
earlier,
there's
other
workforce
dollars
that
can
be
used
to
you
have
an
excellent
partnership
in
dieter.
C
Have
you
explored
actually
being
able
to
fund
these
positions
through
other
dollars
so
that
we
can
free
up
these
dollars
to
do
other
work.
I
I
Food
stamp
program
does
not
have
funding
dollars
for
it,
nor
would
medicaid
the
tanf
dollars
used
for
this
would
specifically
target
this
resource
for
customers
who
are
receiving
tanf,
keeping
in
mind
that,
while
they're
doing
this
outreach
and
they're
doing
this
outreach
throughout
our
connections
with
job
connect
and
our
workforce
development,
it
wouldn't
just
be
used
for
only
the
town
of
recipients
that
has
to
be
their
primary
purpose,
to
be
able
to
use
the
town
of
dollars,
but
we
would
be
taking
that
information
and
feeding
it
back
to
our
other
programs
and
our
community
partners
in
sharing
it.
I
So
this
unit
would
be
a
holistic
view
for
nevada
to
really
shore
up
and
support
this,
this
recovery-friendly
workplace
to
assist
people
with
the
substance
use
disorder.
I'm
not
aware
of
another
funding
source
that
we
can
pull
to
do
this.
This
way.
C
Okay
and
that's
that
and
there
might
be
there-
might
not
be-
let's-
let's
keep
our
conversation
open
on
that
highest
and
best
use
of
dollars.
So
where
do
you
think
these
workforce
representatives
are
going
to
actually
be
and
are
there
any
incentives
that
the
division
planner
plans
to
offer
the
employers
to
encourage
the
development
of
these
recovery
center
workplaces?.
I
So
robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
the
the
reason
that
we
chose
the
number
nine
is
because
it
wasn't
necessarily
due
to
the
number
of
recipients
that
need
help.
It
was
due
to
the
geographical
locations
in
nevada
that,
due
to
the
number
of
employers
in
clark
county,
we
need
a
large
group,
a
smaller
group
in
northern
nevada
and
then
at
least
one
person
who
is
dedicated
to
rural
communities.
I
So
that's
how
the
number
was
determined
and
reaching
out
for
how
many
employers
that
there
are,
and
yes,
there
are
incentive
dollars
available
through
the
town
of
work,
workforce
development
dollars
that
we
use
that
we
can
offer
incentives
to
the
employers
through
on
on
the
job
contracts
and
that
money
is
available
at
this
time.
In
our
our
program,
if
this
program
became
as
successful
as
I'm
hoping
it
would
become,
we
might
have
to
ask
for
an
increase
on
authority
to
use
some
additional
dollars.
I
Correct
they
are
ten
of
dollars,
the
workforce
development.
In
the
tana
program.
We
have
the
monies
that
we
use
for
transportation.
The
bus
passes
close.
C
Right
sure-
and
I
understand-
and
I
I
think
that's
good-
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
know
within
the
department
of
workforce
envelope
development,
there's
there's
so
many
funding
streams
out
there
that
deal
with
helping
people
get
back
to
work,
and
I
do
believe
there
is
an
incentive
program
in
some
other
programs
if
we
could
use
those
incentive
dollars
to
help
here.
C
My
whole
goal
is
just
to
make
sure
we
use
the
right
funding
in
the
right
place,
because
tanf
dollars
are
very,
very
precious,
so
whenever
we
can
try
to
pull
down
other
dollars
from
another
budget,
account
that
frees
up
money
to
be
able
to
help
families
in
other
ways.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing.
C
I
know
some
other
folks
are
probably
going
to
have
questions
on
the
office
closures,
but
if
I
could,
madam
chair
very
briefly,
what
I'm
going
to
need
is
a
map
of
what
you're
closing
and
the
number
of
people
you
served
in
those
so
that
I
can
see
the
the
demographics
of
what's
going
on
and
my
biggest
concern
in
this
is
having
people
work
from
home.
That
is
that
that
is
a
policy
decision.
C
I
know
we
had
to
do
it.
We
had
to
pull
the
trigger
quick
when
the
pandemic
hit,
but
ongoing
work
from
home.
I
think,
needs
to
be
a
more
global
discussion.
We
shouldn't
have
to
live
where
we
work.
If
we
don't
want
to-
and
we
know,
there's
a
lot
of
issues
involved
with
that
children,
elderly
parents
just
needing
to
get
out
of
your
own
house
having
some
place
to
go
every
day.
C
C
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
members
I'll
remind
you
that
the
senate
will
be
going
on
before
at
11
and
it's
10
14
and
we
still
have
two
more
budgets
after
we
finish
this
one.
So
we'll
need
to
speed
it
up.
Just
a
little
bit,
I
have
senator
don
darrell
loop
and
assemblywoman
titus
to
discuss
e685.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'll,
make
my
questions
really
quick.
I
concur
with
chair
carlton
about
the
map
and
where
those
closures
will
be
and
who
they're
impacting,
because
the
for
example,
when
you
mention
the
office
on
flamingo
and
durango,
which
is
in
my
district,
that's
not
in
the
northwest,
and
that
would
be
considered,
maybe
the
southwest,
and
that
would
be
the
furthest
south
that
that
office
would
be-
and
we
have
all
truckload
of
the
city
past
that
so
those
those
people
would
have
nowhere
to
come
into.
E
So
I'd
like
to
have
that
map
and
all
and
I'll
yield
that
question
to
seeing
the
map
and
determining
where
those
are
where
those
closures
are.
Since
we
have
such
a
large
population
in
las
vegas.
I
just
feel
like
we
shouldn't
be
closing
some
of
those
offices
during
this
time
and
then
the
other
question
would
be
is:
are
these
permanent
closures
or
are
they
just
closures
during
this
pandemic
time?.
I
So
robert
thompson
for
the
record,
I
did
misspeak
and
I'm
glad
you
said
that
I
am
sorry
I
I
did
not
mean
to
say
northwest
the
durango
office
is
our
most
most
southwest
office
and
it's
even
southwest
in
my
notes.
So
if
I
said
northwest,
I
apologize,
it
is
the
most
southwest
office.
We
have
nothing
further
than
durango
and
the
southwest
and
the
office
closures
would
be
permanent.
E
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
I'll
look
for
that
map
and
further
discussion,
because
due
to
time
I
want
to,
I
want
to
yield
my
time,
but
I
do
have
some
further
questions.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
also
in
the
interest
of
time.
I
I
will
try
to
keep
this
brief,
but
it's
along
the
same
concerns
regarding
closing
of
these
office
number
one.
If
they're,
permanent
or
not-
and
I'm
not
sure
you
answered
that
question
and
then
the
next
thing
was
these
geographic
locations.
You
mentioned
that
there's
19
offices
that
you
have
currently
and
that
10
are
in
las
vegas
and
when
you
get
us
that
map
that
chair
carlton
has
asked
for,
and
the
senator
has
also
emphasized.
G
I
would
like
to
see
we've
heard
multiple
times
during
these
committee
hearings,
questions
about
parity
and
where
these
services
are-
and
it's
been
very
clear
and
spoken-
that
78
of
our
population
lives
in
clark
county,
and
I
I
understand
all
that
I
want
to
see
where
the
recipients
are
located,
are
78
of
the
recipients
of
these
benefits
located
in
clark,
county
also
where's,
the
parity
and
hopefully,
on
these
maps
that
you
would
show
us.
G
You
could
give
us
the
location
of
of
the
population
receiving
these
benefits,
and
and
as
you
mentioned
already,
nine
of
these
offices
apparently
are
in
communities
and
that's
their
only
office.
And
so
when
you
look
at
kind
of
shrinking
this
down,
it
wouldn't
be
an
option
to
close
them,
because
how
many
you
know
in
washoe
county,
you
only
have.
Is
it
there?
You
also
only
have
one
office,
so
everybody
has
to
kind
of
go
to
that
one
office,
and
I
guess
that
would
be
one
question
you
might
be
able
to
answer.
G
Okay,
so
reno
so
washoe
county
has
two
really
really
spread
out
over
lots
of
miles.
I
guess
and
then
everybody
else
just
has
one
so
people
do
have
to
travel
the
about
the
rest
of
the
mileage
in
the
states.
So
when,
when
you
send
us
locations
on
geographic
locations,
perhaps
you
could
also
break
it
down
please
to
the
recipients
and
where
they're
located.
That
would
be
helpful.
Also,
thank
you
very
much
manager.
A
Thank
you
so
just
want
to
make
sure
I
have
all
the
questions
that
I
wanted
to
get
on
the
record
on
the
record.
A
Just
could
you
tell
us,
and
if
you,
if
you've
explained
this,
make
it
just
really
quick
for
my
clarification,
what
impact
would
maintaining
these
positions
that
would
remain
vacant
for
fy
2022
have
on
the
division's
ability
to
provide
timely
and
accurate
services,
and
what
would
be
the
lag
in
the
determination
for
those
that
the
applicants
for
those
services.
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record,
losing
that
many
positions
for
one
year
will
have
a
significant
impact
to
our
to
our
agency.
It's
its
math.
We,
the
number
of
staff
we
have
able
to
turn
around
the
cases,
are,
would
be
impacted.
I
I
could
not
sit
here
and
tell
you
that
it's
going
to
slow
us
down
by
one
day
or
or
two
percent
of
the
processing
time
frame,
because
we're
going
to
have
to
juggle-
and
we
always
triage-
and
we
put
the
emergency
cases.
First,
children
without
food
come
first
and
and
and
the
medicaid
cases,
and
and
we
build
that
back
in
losing
that
number
of
positions
is
a
significant,
is
a
significant
number
and
we
wouldn't
have
them
built
into
the
budget
if
we
didn't
need
them
so
that
it
is
an
impact.
I
A
L
For
the
record,
joe
garcia,
acting
deputy
administrator
for
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services
good
morning,
and
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members
for
allowing
me
to
present
the
child
assistance
and
development
budget.
The
child
care
assistance
and
development
program
provides
assistance
to
nevada's,
low-income
families
in
paying
for
their
child
care
needs.
L
These
services
assist
people
to
become
and
remain
employed,
thereby
reducing
long-term
dependency
and
the
associated
expenditures
to
public
assistance
programs.
The
child
care
assistance
and
development
program
is
administered
by
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services
with
service
delivery
accomplished
by
two
separate
contractors,
one
in
northern
nevada
and
one
in
southern
nevada.
L
L
Here's
why
we
need
them.
This
program
initially
focused
on
subsidy
payments
to
providers
for
child
care
costs.
However,
the
focus
has
expanded
from
affordability
to
looking
at
child
care,
from
a
systems
perspective
and
working
with
partners,
families
and
providers
to
impact
the
following:
the
quality
of
child
care,
the
child
care
workforce,
child
care
capacity,
meaning
identified
deserts
and
target
areas
of
need,
emergent
need
and
gaps
in
service.
I
L
At
an
estimate-
and
we
are
currently
developing
the
rfp-
all
costs
are
fully
funded
by
federal
grant
revenues.
We
estimate
16.1
million
dollars
over
five
years
and
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
annually
for
licensing
and
maintenance.
Thereafter,
the
estimate
was
determined
by
reaching
out
to
the
office
of
child
care
and
development
for
an
average
of
other
states
projects,
and
we
also
worked
with
software
vendors,
the
state
it
strategic
planning
committee
itspc,
ranked
the
child
care
replacement
system
number
two
in
importance
out
of
12
statewide.
L
L
We
are
the
centerpiece
that
connects
the
department
of
education,
licensing,
the
children's
cabinet,
the
urban
league
and
many
other
early
childhood
programs.
In
one
strong
partnership,
we
are
making
a
difference
for
families
in
nevada,
thus
tracking
the
early
childhood
program
activities
to
ensure
we
are
successful
and
making
necessary.
L
M
Madam
chair
building
on
some
of
my
questions
on
a
previous
budget,
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
about
caseload
and
could
you
clarify
for
us?
Does
the
executive
budget
cover
all
of
the
the
projected
case
load,
or
would
there
be
a
wait
list
over
the
biennium
for
for
applicants
for
these
services.
L
D
M
Sure,
of
course,
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
the
funding
that's
recommended
in
this
budget
is
sufficient
to
cover
all
applicants
or
if
the
agency
anticipates
having
a
wait
list
over
the
next
billion.
D
M
Great
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
Also
building
on
the
question
I
asked
on
the
the
previous
budget
item.
Did
you
speak
to
the
impacts
of
the
kobit
19
pandemic
on
this
program?
M
D
Mrs
cristela,
asking
for
the
record,
so
one
of
the
things
that
that
happened
with
our
case
load
is
that
we
already
had
quite
a
large
case
load
and
when
cova
came
into
play,
we
put
some
policy
in
place
to
try
to
sustain
child
care
businesses
throughout
the
pandemic.
D
We
didn't
look
at
absences
at
all
of
the
children
going
to
child
care,
and
so
we
really
sustain
that
high
case
load
through
alpha
pandemic,
and
then
we
also
have
federal
regulations
like
12
month
eligibility.
M
D
This
is
crystal
asking
for
the
record.
It
is
our
intention
to
actually
reinstate
some
of
those
policies.
We
want
to
reinstate
the
payment
based
on
enrollment.
We
want
to
waive
looking
at
attendance
and
even
if
a
provider
has
to
close
until
the
vaccine
is
rolled
out
and
everybody's
back
to
being
stable
again,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
child
care
survives.
This
pantomime
comes
out
the
other
side.
E
All
right,
I
was
having
a
little
bit
of
a
hard
time
getting
enough
to
let
me
up
there,
so
I
want
to
talk
about
the
case
management,
modernization
system
and
just
very
briefly,
how's,
that
going
to
help
improve
the
agency.
L
This
is
joe
garcia
for
the
record,
so
I'm
gonna,
let
christelle
ask
you
respond
to
that
question,
but
first
I
wanted
to
say
that
the
system,
the
card
system,
as
I've
learned
you
know
I'm
the
acting
deputy
administrator,
so
I'm
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
this
too
is
is
pretty
antiquated
and
in
working
with
christelle
we
have
or
she
has
identified,
and
I
have
identified
some
major
issues
with
the
current
system
in
the
information
that
we
gather
from
that
and
that's
information,
that's
very
important
that
we
have
to
use
in
the
child
care
program,
and
I
just
wanted
to
put
it
on
the
record
that
it
it.
L
The
customers
that
we
serve
and
the
children
that
are
in
child
care,
but
also
the
agency
without
the
correct
information
and
without
accurate
data,
we
can't
appropriately
move
forward
and
accomplish
all
the
goals
that
christelle
and
her
team
have
developed,
which
are
phenomenal,
so
cristela
will
handle
the
routine.
Now.
D
Thank
you.
This
is
chris
stella
for
the
record,
and
I
do
agree
that
this
the
system
is
antiquated.
It's
a
broken
system.
We
can't
get
accurate
data.
There
are
so
many
workarounds
that
it
really
makes
the
data
even
worse,
and
a
lot
of
extra
time
is
spent
within
the
system
trying
to
get
eligibility
and
all
those
things.
But
I
heard
somebody
say
earlier:
they
were
talking
about
preventing
benefits
in
perpetuity
success
rates.
Is
this
working
and
that's
really
what
we
want
to
know?
D
We
want
to
have
a
system
that
really
tracks
all
that
data
so
that
we
know
what's
going
on
with
our
families,
so
we
know
that
they
are
successful
and
we
know
what's
happening.
We
want
that
case
management
piece.
We
want
to
really
be
able
to
know
who
we're
serving
and
if
they're,
coming
off
the
program
is
it
because
their
income
is
now
in
excess
and
they're
able
to
move
on
and
they've
gone
somewhere
and
they've
moved
up
that
ladder
in
employment?
D
And
so
I,
when
I
heard
those
words
that
really
struck
me,
because
that
is
the
purpose
of
a
huge
portion
of
why
we
want
to
have
this
system.
Is
data
driven
program
management
and
building.
E
D
Oh,
this
is
christelle
asking
for
the
record
they're
very
excited
for
us.
We
actually
took
part
in
a
program
called
the
momentum
project
in
which
we
had
a
lot
of
federal,
ta
and
guidance,
walking
through
the
different
things
that
we
could
do
within
the
system.
They
work
with
us
to
look
at
other
states.
You
know
what
kind
of
systems
other
states
had.
We
also
had
some
federal
partners
come
out
and
sit
down
with
us
and
look
at
the
current
system.
We
had
a
couple
of
years
ago.
D
We
found
a
lot
of
issues
within
the
system
with
the
data
that
we're
putting
together
even
for
our
federal
reports,
so
they're
very
excited
for
us
to
be
able
to
have
a
system
that
tracks
all
the
things
that
they
want
to
see
and
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
all
of
those
other
important
pieces
aside
from
just
the
subsidy,
but
really
looking
at
the
family
holistically
and
making
sure
that
we're
helping
them
move
forward
and
being
able
to
track
the
outcome.
F
Then
in
fiscal
year,
twenty
two
we
jump
back
up
to
ten
thousand
four
seventy
and
then
2023
up
again
to
10
587,
and
so
it
does
appear
that
we
have
made
an
adjustment
for
fiscal
year.
2021
down
by
7.
Was
that
because
of
kovid?
And
if
you
could
just
help
me
understand
better,
because
I
heard
you
say
we're
not
making
projections
on
attendance,
we're
making
it
on
enrollment.
So
was
that
based
on
drop
of
enrollment
and
was
that
based
on
covid.
D
This
is
crystal
ascii
for
the
record.
It
is
my
understanding
with
the
information
that
I
have
that
some
families
are
not
redetermining
their
case.
So,
even
though
we
have
that
12
month,
eligibility
that
really
sustains
our
caseload
when
it
comes
to
that
end
of
that
12
months,
some
parents
that
have
been
keeping
their
kids
at
home
aren't
actually
re-enrolling
in
the
program.
D
D
D
We've
had
needs
assessments,
we've
been
looking,
and
this
is
something
that
I
have
worked
a
lot
with
the
federal
partners
on
different
conferences
that
I
went
to
and
really
looking
at
best
practice
and
how
to
move
your
state
forward
in
a
systematic
level
in
child
care,
so
really
taking
that
focus
from
subsidy,
which
is
also
extremely
important
in
working
with
poverty,
but
growing
it
out
to
look
at
child
care
as
a
whole
and
how
to
have
better
quality
within
it
and
looking
at
the
capacity
of
child
care.
D
Last
time
we
looked
and
when
we
look
at
poverty
we're
only
serving
about
four
percent
with
subsidy,
but
also
when
we
look
at
seats
in
general,
we
have
about
10
to
meet
the
need
for
child
presence
in
general
across
the
state,
and
so
really
we
decided
within
our
state
that
we
wanted
to
take
an
active
approach
to
trying
to
address
all
of
that
need
to
make
child
care
better
in
nevada.
D
A
Okay,
then,
just
the
final
questions:
how
would
the
duties
of
these
recommended
new
positions
be
distinguished
from
those
of
the
positions
approved
during
the
2019-21
biennium
and
how
would
the
recommended
new
positions
if
approved,
increase
the
access
and
capacity
of
quality
child
care
in
our
state.
D
D
So
when
we
brought
on
the
new
positions-
and
we
have
now-
we
have
somebody
to
help
us
with
rfp
development.
We
have
someone
to
help
us,
develop
the
sub
awards
and
the
contracts
and
work
with
contracts
and
work
with
fiscal
on
those
piece
of
things
and
then
on
the
program
side.
It's
really
about
doing
that
outreach,
making
those
partnerships-
and
we
had
a
strategic
plan
consultant
that
we
contracted
with
and
when
they
came
to
us.
D
They
did
keen
informant
interviews
across
the
state
with
a
ton
of
early
childhood
stakeholders
and
people
that
work
in
our
early
childhood
and
one
of
the
things
that
bubbled
up
was
that
they
were
really
looking
for
somebody
to
show
some
leadership
in
nevada
and
I
feel
like
we
really
are
the
ones
that
make
most
sense
to
do
that,
because
we
administer
the
child
care
and
development
block
grant
and
we
already
work
with
all
of
these
different
early
childhood
folks
in
nevada.
So
we're
really
kind
of
the
centerpiece
that
brings
everyone
together.
A
I
Good
morning
again,
robert
thompson,
deputy
for
the
record
robert
thompson,
deputy
administrator,
I
will
try
to
give
a
fast
overview.
I
know
that
you
are
running
out
of
time.
The
overview
of
the
energy
assistance
program
is
that
the
energy
assistance
program
it
provides
a
supplement
to
assist,
qualifying
low-income
nevadans
with
the
cost
of
their
home.
I
Energy
nevada's
eap
program
has
two
funding
sources:
the
low-income
home
energy
assistance
program,
the
which
is
the
federal
block
grant
and
the
state
revenue
generated
from
nevada's
universal
energy
charge
uec,
and
you
may
have
seen
that
on
the
back
of
your
power
bill.
I
checked
mine
for
the
last
few
months
and
it
runs
30
cents
to
60
cents
on
my
power
bill
and
that
money
is
brought
in
to
fund
the
energy
assistance
program.
The
energy
assistance
program
has
a
income
limit
at
150
percent
of
federal
poverty.
I
I
Dwss
receives,
like
I
said,
from
the
federal
block
grant
and
from
the
uec
charges
within
nevada,
but
because
the
funds
are
not
static,
we
work
with
the
projections
of
the
the
dollar
amounts
that
we
believe
are
going
to
be
coming
in
to
to
determine
the
number
the
amount
of
dollars
that
we'll
be
able
to
assist
nevadans
with
we
project
conservatively
in
these
case
loads,
and
then
often
if
we
receive
additional
funds,
we
retroactively
increase
the
previously
approved
households,
so
m-200
and
m-201
do
show
small
increases
in
case
load
and
those
those
case
loads
are
increases,
are
determined
by
our
data
analytics
team
next
slide.
I
Please
slide
26.
The
main
enhancement
unit
here
to
talk
about
is
e810
and
we
are
requesting
to
reclassify
these
positions
to
utilize
family
services,
supervisors
to
formally
supervise
this
program
and
reclassify
two
administrative
assistants
to
the
level
of
family
services
specialist
to
be
assigned
as
formal
lead
workers
and
trainers
of
this
team.
This
restructure
would
align
the
energy
assistance
unit
career
path,
to
be
the
same
as
we
use
in
other
areas
of
the
agency,
the
history
of
the
energy
assistance
program
was
it
used
to
be
all
temporary
staff.
I
So
when
we're
using
program
officers
to
supervise
it's
breaking
the
career
path
and
and
individuals
in
this
program
that
want
to
promote
end
up,
leaving
the
energy
assistance
program
to
go
over
to
the
food
stamp
program,
medicaid
tanf,
the
other
side
of
our
house-
and
we
lose
that
historical
foundation
of
the
program.
C
I
thank
you,
madam
chair,
very
much
so
very,
very
good
program.
So
what
what
do
you?
What
does
the
agency
determine
in
whether
you're
going
to
issue
a
supplemental
payment?
I
know
a
supplemental
payment
was
done
during
the
pandemic
time
period
and
do
we
expect
another
supplemental
payment
in
21
to
23.
I
Robert
thompson,
for
the
record,
we
received
additional
funding
through
the
cares
act
that
allowed
us
to
do
the
retroactive
payments
during
the
pandemic.
We
project
the
caseload
as
how
we
believe
it
will
be
that
wouldn't
allow
for
the
supplement.
We
project
it
to
to
give
out
the
amount
of
money
that
we
believe
will
be
getting
that.
Historically,
we
always
end
up
receiving
a
little
bit
more
than
we
planned
on
that
allows
us
to
do
the
retroactive
payments.
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record,
I
would
not
say
that
there
was
difficulty
in
it.
That
is
always
a
manual
process
to
do
the
supplements.
So
it's
not
necessarily
a
fast
process,
but
it's
not
difficult.
C
Okay,
all
right,
just
you
never
know,
what's
gonna
happen
in
the
future,
so
the
funding
levels
that
are
recommended
in
the
budget
currently
for
the
energy
assistance
program
will
that
allow
all
the
eligible
households
currently
to
be
served.
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record,
approximately
a
14
increase,
I'm
sorry,
a
12
increase
in
21
and
fiscal
year.
23
take
the
14
increase.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
compare
those
percentages
of
increases
with
the
increases
with
medicaid,
snap
and
other
things.
I
think
that's
all
going
to
be
the
same
population
they're
going
to
be
accessing
services
across
the
the
spectrum,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
our
growth
models
fit
all
the
way
across.
So
thank
you
very
much,
mr
thompson.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
trying
to
go
quickly.
M
Adam
chair,
a
quick
question
on
item
e805.
M
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record,
currently,
the
administrative
positions
are
not
acting
as
the
lead
workers.
Family
services
specialist
in
this
team
would
be
considered,
subject
matter,
experts
they
would
be
the
ones
that
would
be
doing
the
training
of
the
team
and
rolling
that
out.
The
administrative
assistant
positions
are
being
given
up
to
support
that
and
are
being
able
to
be
given
up
through
efficiencies
created
in
other
areas
of
our
program.
So
the
the
duties
are
a
hundred
percent
different.
When
you
talk
about
the
administrative
assistance,
the
family
services,
specialist
right.
B
I
The
program
officers
are
carrying
the
entire
load
and,
as
it's
worked
out
through
the
years,
they
are
probably
not
working
within
class,
which
is
requiring
the
social
or
would.
F
I
Robert
thompson
for
the
record,
the
program
officers
are
acting
as
supervisors
when
their
job
specs
are
not
fully
as
supervisors.
So
they
are.
We
don't
necessarily
have
the
right
skill
set
in
there
and
then
what
is
happening
is
because
of
their
grades.
They
are
there's
a
high
turnover.
The
program
officers
are
leaving
when
family
services
supervisors,
who
are
grade
34s,
normally
are
stable
long
term.
So
we've
got
a
rotating
door
in
and
out
so
we're
losing
our
historical
knowledge.
I
Every
time
we
have
to
retrain
a
supervisor
so
that
stability
and
consistency
for
the
team
would
be
the
ultimate
goal
and
the
benefit
of
this
enhancement
unit.
M
Thank
you
so
sounds
like
some
of
those
efficiencies
are
also
in
not
having
to
retrain,
as
people
are
moving
in
and
out
great.
That's
the
only
those
are
the
questions
I
have.
A
I
Increasing
the
day-to-day
they
would
be
increasing
the
day-to-day
efficiencies
of
this
program,
because
hopefully
we
remove
that
revolving
door
that
we
keep
losing
each
time.
We
don't
have
a
stability
in
that
program.
So
when
we
create
subject
matter
experts
and
we
create
supervisors
that
we
create
lead
workers
who
understand
their
program,
they
can
pass
that
knowledge
down
to
train
their
staff
and
and
keep
the
program
solid.
I
I
don't
know
if
I'm
explaining
that
well
enough,
but
it's
it
feels
right
now
that
the
area
is
fragmented
and
continues
to
be
fragmented
and
by
aligning
their
career
pathing
with
the
rest
of
our
agency.
It
would
stop
that
those
people
that
want
they
want
to
promote
they.
They
want
to
be
supervisors,
and
it
feels
like
they're
getting
a
taste
of
supervision.
Then
they
jump
ship.
A
Thank
you
and
and
thank
all
of
you
for
joining
us
here.
That
is
the
last
question.
I
don't
see
any
other
questions
from
our
members,
so
I
appreciate
you
joining
us
today
for
this
very
important
discussion
and
I
wish
you
a
good
day
members.
The
last
item
on
our
agenda
today
is
public
comment
and
I
would
ask
our
bps
staff
to
open
the
lines
for
public
comment.
H
H
H
B
Good
morning
my
name
is
amber
howell
a-m-e-r-h-o-w-e-l-l.
I
am
the
director
of
the
washoe
county
human
services
agency
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
washoe
and
clark
as
clark
had
another
hearing.
They
had
to
get
to
just
want
to
direct
the
committee's
attention
that
we
did
send
a
letter
expressing
our
strong
interest
in
solidifying,
an
ongoing
sustainability
plan
for
the
tanf
allocation
to
counties,
especially
with
the
significant
cut
that
was
mentioned
today
in
the
child
welfare
funding.
B
B
Mr
fischer
had
indicated
in
his
testimony
that
the
tanf
money
was
restored
to
the
county,
but,
as
was
discussed
today,
you
can
see
it's
not
slated
in
a
budget
ongoing
for
the
next
couple
of
years.
We
did
receive
one-shot
funds
two
years
in
a
row,
and
we
greatly
appreciate
mr
whitley
and
mr
fisher's
support
to
those
efforts,
but
it
hasn't
been
restored
ongoing.
B
We
have
a
vested
interest
in
meeting
the
fiscal
benchmarks
with
welfare
that
they
need
to
meet
and
we
have
dedicated
two
full-time
staff
to
help
ensure
that
they
meet
those
benchmarks
with
the
federal
government
and
assist
any
way
we
can.
With
that
initiative,
we've
done
quite
a
bit
of
research
on
tanf
reserves
around
the
country,
and
our
findings
are
that,
according
to
the
center
on
budget
and
policy
and
priorities,
the
average
tanf
reserve
for
states
is
about
36
percent
in
nevada.
B
B
These
tanf
funds
support
core
services
for
our
population
and
now
more
than
ever,
with
washoe
county
and
clark
serving
the
majority
of
the
tana
families.
We
are
in
dire
need
of
these
safety
services
to
assist
families
stay
together
and
keep
children
safe.
Sheltered
and
with
their
families,
we
know
the
difficult
tasks
the
committee
faces
and
we
are
ready
to
assist
in
prevention
efforts
with
the
division
of
welfare
that
keeps
costs
down
and
families
together.
B
We
would
really
appreciate
any
ongoing
dialogue
and
consideration
to
restore
this
critical
revenue
that
was
cut
within
the
last
decade,
with
our
populations,
rising
increase
in
financial
stress,
on
families
serving
populations
that
were
never
served
before
due
to
the
pandemic,
an
increase
in
mental
health
challenges
and
overall
impact
that
our
families
are
facing
for
the
first
time
ever.
We
believe
that
these
reserves
should
be
put
to
work
to
help
nevada
families
and
children
and
not
be
held
in
large
reserves.
B
H
K
Hi,
my
name
is
robert
burns.
R-O-B-E-R-T
b-u-r-n-s,
I'm
the
president
and
board
of
director
of
the
early
intervention,
community
providers
association
and
a
managing
director
of
therapy
management
group
eicpa
is
the
trade
association
for
early
intervention
service
providers
here
in
nevada
and
the
members
are
therapy
management,
group
capabilities,
health
and
human
services
positively
kids
foundation,
the
continuum
and
advanced
pediatric
therapies.
These
community
providers
contract
with
aging
and
disability
services,
nevada's
early
intervention
program
to
provide
services
to
approximately
half
of
the
children
and
families
in
need
of
early
intervention
services.
K
The
governor's
executive
budget
for
the
early
intervention
services
budget
ba
3208,
includes
three
important
items
case.
Loads
kids
served
is
projected
to
increase
from
approximately
3
500
in
fiscal
year,
20
to
3930
in
fiscal
year
23..
This
is
an
increase
of
430
children
to
be
served.
The
state
program
is
holding
29
positions
vacant
and
will
continue
to
do
so
through
fiscal
year
22,
making
it
exceedingly
difficult
for
the
remaining
state
staff
to
serve
needy
children
and
families.
K
Community
providers,
monthly
payment
from
the
state
for
services
provided
to
children,
is
being
cut
from
565
per
month
to
500
per
month.
This
is
approximately
a
12
percent
reduction
and
will
create
extreme
challenges
for
community
providers,
possibly
even
some
to
end
their
contracts
with
the
state.
This
cut
and
reduction
will
reduce
payments
to
community
providers
by
1.9
million
per
year.
So
why
am
I
here
testifying
about
the
tenant
temporary
assistance
to
needy
families
budget?
K
We
believe
use
of
tennis
reserve
funding
is
a
possible
solution
to
the
deep
cuts
being
made
to
early
intervention
services
ba
3208
during
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services.
Pre-Session
budget
presentation
to
the
legislative
commission
budget
subcommittee
on
january
21,
2021
information
was
provided
that
there
will
be
a
43.4
million
unobligated
reserve
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year
21
and
a
31.8
million
unobligated
reserve
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year
23..
This
is
a
large
reserve
amount.
K
Nearly
100
percent
reserve
of
the
44
million
tannic
block
grant
awarded
to
nevada
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year
21
and
a
72
reserve
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year,
23..
According
to
the
center
of
budget
and
policy
research.
Most
recent
report
on
how
states
use
the
tenant
funds
the
average
amount
states
have
retained
in
reserve
status
is
36
percent.
The
nevada
tanf
reserves
are
more
than
double
the
national
average
and
fiscal
year,
21
nearly
tripled
the
average.
These
reserves
should
be
part
should
be
put.
K
Tennis
funds
are
being
budgeted
in
the
governor's
executive
budget
to
be
used
to
support
the
autism
treatment
assistance
program,
transfer
of
approximately
2.9
million
per
year
to
va
3209
and
to
support
the
nurse
family
partnership
program
operated
by
the
southern
nevada
health
district
at
a
cost
of
about
eight
hundred
thousand
per
year.
We
do
not
understand
why
tenant
funding
was
not
considered
to
also
be
used
to
support
the
early
intervention
services
community
providers,
rather
than
making
deep
cuts
to
the
program
and
possibly
resulting
in
significant
waiting
lists
for
services
or
providers
going
out
of
business.
K
The
ipca
urges
the
senate
and
assembly
subcommittees
on
human
services
to
explore
the
use
of
tennis
unobligated
reserves
to
support
the
early
intervention
services
program.
Just
this
has
been
done
for
the
autism
program
and
the
nursing
partnership
program.
Preliminary
discussion
with
state
staff
on
the
use
of
tennis
funds
for
ei
program
services
resulted
in
the
ei
cpa
being
told
it
was
not
allowed
under
tanf
rules,
because
the
ei
program
was
a
medical
model.
This
is
no
more
the
case
for
the
ei
program.
Yes,.
A
H
Hello
chair:
this
is
michael
from
broadcast.
The
public
comment
line
is
open
and
working.
However,
we
have
no
more
callers
at
this
time.
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
members
that
will
conclude
today's
meeting.
I'm
sorry
that
we
ran
a
little
long,
especially
for
the
senate
side.
I
apologize.
I
know
you
need
to
go
to
the
floor.
Thank
you
to
all
our
presenters,
the
committee
members,
our
broadcast
staff
and
the
members
of
the
public
who
patiently
stayed
with
us
throughout
this
virtual
meeting
today
and
with
that
this
meeting
is
adjourned,
have
a
very
productive.