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A
A
I
am
here
okay,
so
we
do
have
a
crime,
we're
not
missing
anyone
right,
okay,
just
a
reminder
to
turn
off
your
devices
or
put
on
silence.
Welcome
to
everyone.
We
have
a
few
people
here.
It
doesn't
look
like
we
have
anyone
in
Vegas,
but
anyone
who
is
watching
online,
if
you
wish
to
testify,
we
were
here
in
one
bill
today.
Please
sign
in
at
the
table
by
the
door,
provide
a
business
card
to
the
committee
secretary
when
testifying.
A
Please
turn
on
your
microphone
clearly
State
and
spell
your
name
any
affiliation
for
the
record,
then
turn
the
microphone
off
each
time.
You're
done
speaking.
We
expect
her
to
see
and
respect
in
our
interactions
during
the
meeting.
We
might
not
always
agree
with
each
other,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
be
nice
committee
members
will
be
using
their
laptops
to
view
handouts
and
other
documents.
Please
don't
view
this
as
a
sign
of
disrespect
or
inattention.
Finally,
please
note
that
build
testimony
will
be
limited
to
20-minute
Windows.
A
It
is
deadline
week,
we'll
take
20
minutes
of
support,
followed
by
20
minutes
of
opposition
20
minutes
of
neutral.
With
that
said,
let's
get
started,
we're
going
to
start
with
the
work
session.
The
agenda
was
updated,
so
the
items
are
correct
that
we
will
be
hearing
on
work
session
after
we
do
our
work
session,
we'll
hear
the
bill
and
possibly
take
action
on
that
bill
assembly,
bill
282..
A
So,
let's
start
with
our
work,
section
works
and
work
session.
It
is
not
custom
customary
for
committee
to
take
testimony
or
otherwise,
as
we
rehear
Bill
bills
during
work
session.
However,
we
may
invite
a
witness
to
come
forward
for
clarifications
or
questions.
During
our
consideration
of
a
measure
we
will
be
hearing
12
bills
and
work
session
today,
there's
15.
I
was
I
was
thinking
that
seemed
like
there's
15,
so
possibly
16
and
I
just
wrote.
That's
what
so
we
will
start.
A
C
D
Thank
you,
chair
Alex,
straussdov
committee
policy.
Analyst
for
the
record,
as
non-partisan
staff
I
can
either
support
nor
oppose
any
measure
that
comes
before
the
committee.
The
first
bill
on
work
session
is
assembly,
Bill
182,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
educational
Personnel.
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
March
28th
assembly.
Bill
182
makes
several
changes
related
to
licensing
for
Education,
including
requiring
a
baccalaureate
degree,
to
obtain
certain
licenses
for
teachers
and
other
educational
personnel
and
allowing
for
the
issuance
of
an
endorsement
or
license
to
a
person
to
serve
as
a
substitute
teacher.
D
A
Thank
you,
Miss
drozdoff,
and
with
that
members,
are
there
any
questions?
A
Okay,
with
that
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
a
new
pass,
so
move
by
assemblywoman
LaRue
hatch
do
I
have
a
second
from
assemblywoman
Anderson.
Any
discussion
on
the
motion,
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
all
opposed,
say,
nay,
if
you
could
raise
your
hand
if
you
were
an
a
we've
got
assembly,
woman,
Torres,
assemblywoman,
Hanson
assembly,
woman,
cone,
I,
miss
heavily
men,
Konig,
sorry
assembly,
member
I'm,
going
to
start
saying:
Hardy
are
the
nose
with.
A
Did
you
have
your
arm
up
except?
No,
he
didn't
do
it
all
right.
So,
with
that
the
motion
passes
and
I
will
assign
that
to
assembly
woman
lure
hatch,
okay,.
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
next
bill
on
work
session
is
assembly,
Bill
226,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
tuition
for
certain
students.
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
March
28th
assembly.
Bill
t26
prohibits
the
Board
of
Regents
from
assessing
tuition
charges
against
a
student
who
successfully
completed
the
high
school
equivalency
assessment
and
from
denying
a
tuition
exemption
to
a
student
on
the
sole
basis
that
the
student
or
their
family
is
not
lawfully
present
in
the
United
States.
D
A
A
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
next
bill
in
work
session
is
assembly
Bill
228,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
required
courses
in
high
school.
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
March
30th
assembly.
Bill
228
increases
the
required
High
School
units
of
social
studies,
credits
from
three
to
four
and
outlines
those
specific
credits.
D
A
Thank
you,
Mr
ozoff,
and
with
that,
oh
any
questions,
okay,
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass.
A
A
Okay,
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
all
of
Jose,
nay,
nay,
so
I
have
three
Nays
I
believe
I
have
assemblywoman
Torres,
assemblyman
Thomas
and
myself
as
Nick.
Oh
I'm,
sorry
I,
apologize
I'm.
My
brain
is
a
little
fried
assembly,
woman,
Vice,
chair
Taylor
and
myself
as
Nays,
but
emotion
does
carry
so
I
will
assign
that,
of
course,
to
you
as
Loom
and
liver
hatch.
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
next
bill
and
work
session
is
assembly
Bill
241,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
the
education
of
pupils
enrolled
in
a
public
high
school.
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
March
30th
assembly.
Bill
241
requires
a
public
high
school
pupil
to
enroll
in
the
courses
and
credits
required
by
the
State
Board
of
Education
to
receive
a
college
and
career
ready,
high
school
diploma.
The
bill
also
outlines
circumstances
in
which
students
are
not
required
to
enroll
in
such
courses
and
credits,
as
well
as
certain
implementation
dates
for
the
bill.
D
Assemblywoman
mosca
proposed
an
amendment
that
does
The
Following
establish
the
CCR
diploma
requirements
in
the
bill.
Language
to
ensure
nde
can
only
establish
different
regulations
upon
approval
of
the
legislative.
Commission
include
transitory
language
that
excludes
a
pupil
enrolled
in
a
school
district
located
in
a
county
whose
population
is
less
than
one
hundred
thousand
from
being
required
to
satisfy
the
Bill's
requirements.
Until
on
or
after
July,
1st
2026
established
that
pupils
in
Grade
9
will
be
enrolled
in
courses
that
align
them
with
the
CCR
or
honors
track.
D
In
the
first
semester
of
grade,
10
pupils
will
meet
with
a
counselor
at
which
time
they
may
opt
out
of
these
diploma
tracks
and
add
assembly
members,
bilber
Axelrod,
Taylor,
Anderson,
Da,
Silva,
LaRue,
hatch,
Thomas,
Torres
and
Koenig
and
Senators
Don,
yate,
Flores,
win
and
pazina
as
co-sonsors
to
the
Bill.
Thank
you
chair.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
ozaf.
Are
there
any
questions.
A
A
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
next
bill
on
work
session
is
assembly
Bill
245,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
education.
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
March
30th
assembly.
Bill
245
makes
various
changes
relating
to
sexual
misconduct.
It
requires
the
Board
of
Trustees
of
each
School
District
to
enter
into
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
an
organization
that
assists
victims
of
sexual
misconduct
and
outline
certain
conditions
for
the
mou.
D
It
also
adds
certain
Provisions
concerning
the
office
for
a
safe
and
respectful
learning
environment
and
enchi
related
to
sexual
misconduct.
Finally,
the
bill
abolishes
the
existing
task
force
on
sexual
misconduct
at
institutions
of
higher
education,
creates
the
commission
on
higher
education,
campus
safety
transfers,
certain
duties
to
the
commission
and
prescribes
the
commission's
membership.
D
Assemblywoman
Torres
submitted
an
amendment
changing
the
term
sexual
misconduct
to
power-based
violence,
requiring
certain
actions
of
the
committee
on
Statewide
school
safety
and
requiring
actions
of
school
personnel
and
the
Statewide
phone
number
relating
to
sexual
related
to
power-based
violence.
The
amendment
further
makes
certain
requirements
of
the
commission,
including
its
membership
and
duties
and
of
the
Board
of
Regents.
D
A
C
A
I
would
I
would
appreciate
if
we
could
do
that
as
a
floor.
Amendment
I
think
unless
you're
okay
with
that
you
can
fold
it
in
he's,
so
good,
all
right,
we'll
do
it.
Okay,
I.
G
Thinking
you
know,
I
I
see
someone
MacArthur
smiling
over
there
he's
so
happy
to
be
a
sponsor
in
this
bill.
We
really
appreciate
your
support,
but
I
did
want
to
make
one
clarification
too,
based
off
the
amendment
language
that
I
obviously
proposed
and
is
introduced
and
a
conversation
we
had
during
the
during
the
hearing
as
well.
G
I
just
want
to
remind
the
committee
that
the
permissive
language
for
entity
to
create
that
climate
survey
and
for
the
programming
on
sexual
misconduct
in
section,
7
and
8
will
be
used
in
the
bill
as
that
to
ensure
that
that's
within
the
scope
of
our
powers.
Thank
you.
A
Was
that
it
okay
so
and
we're
adding
an
additional
Amendment,
adding
Vice
chair
Taylor
assembly,
woman,
Thomas,
assemblywoman,
Moscow
and
myself,
okay,
good!
That's
what
I
thought
I
was
like
I
think
I'm
on
it.
Okay
good
could
I
go
on
twice:
no
I'm
just
kidding
okay,
great.
So
any
questions
now
on
that
motion.
No
okay,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
any
opposed,
nay,
motion
carry!
A
A
All
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed,
nay.
Now
it
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you.
We
will
move
on
oh
and
I'll.
Send
that
to
you
assemblyman
Torres.
Next,
we'll
move
on
to
assembly
bill
264.
D
D
It
outlines
Provisions
related
to
such
absences
in
terms
of
pupil
eligibility
for
certain
Awards
School
District
reporting
attendance
credits,
contingent
upon
coursework
completion
and
the
duties
of
a
parent
or
legal
guardian
related
to
notification.
Regarding
such
absences,
assemblywoman
Taylor
submitted
an
amendment
making
certain
changes
related
to
the
notification
of
such
absences.
D
A
A
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
next
bill
and
work
session
is
assembly
Bill
269,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
education.
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
April
11th
assembly.
Bill
269
makes
certain
changes
to
evaluation.
Cycles
specifies
that
if
a
post-provationary
teacher
receives
an
evaluation
designating
overall
performance
as
effective
or
highly
effective
for
two
consecutive
evaluations,
that
teacher
is
given
the
option
to
request
to
participate
in
an
observation
cycle
during
the
following
school
year
and
outlines
further
related
details
to
such
an
evaluation
or
observation
cycle.
D
A
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
next
bill
on
work
session
is
assembly,
Bill
279,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
the
waiver
of
tuition
and
registration,
and
certain
fees
for
students
who
are
children
of
certain
veterans
committee
heard
this
bill
on
April
4th
assembly.
Bill
279
prohibits
the
Board
of
Regents
from
assessing
tuition
charges
against
the
child
of
a
veteran
who
has
been
awarded
the
Purple
Heart
and
requires
the
Board
of
Regents
to
waive
certain
fees
for
such
a
child,
and
she
submitted
an
amendment
clarifying
the
length
of
time
that
a
child
may
use
such
a
waiver.
A
Okay
with
that
I
would
take
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass.
Assemblymanoska
has
made
the
motion.
Do
I
have
a
second
second
by
assemblywoman
Torres.
Any
discussion
on
the
motion.
Okay,
see
none
all
in
favor,
say:
I
I
opposed,
nay,
Bill,
a
baby
said:
279
passes
unanimously
and
I
will
floor
a
floor.
I
will
assign
that
floor
statement
to
you,
Mr
Da,
Silva
assembly,
bill
285.
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
next
bill
on
work
session
is
assembly.
Bill
285,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
school
safety
and
student
Behavior
committee,
heard
this
bill
on
March
16th
assembly.
Bill
285
removes
the
requirement
that
each
School
District
establish
a
plan
to
provide
for
the
restorative
discipline
of
pupils
requiring
instead
that
the
Board
of
Trustees
of
each
School
District
establish
a
plan
of
progressive
discipline
which
may
include
disciplinary
practices
based
on
restorative
justice.
D
Additionally.
The
bill
removes
the
requirement
that,
in
general,
a
public
school
must
provide
a
plan
of
action
based
on
restorative
justice
before
suspending
expelling
or
removing
a
pupil
from
a
classroom
and
outline
certain
conditions
related
to
removing
a
pupil.
Finally,
ab285
provides
for
the
suspension,
expulsion
and
permanent
expulsion
of
certain
pupils.
Less
than
11
years
old
assemblywoman
Taylor
submitted
an
amendment
applying
Bill
Provisions
to
university
schools,
adding
certain
definitions
relating
to
Progressive
discipline,
restorative
practices
and
assault
to
the
bill,
adding
certain
age
parameters
and
making
certain
changes
to
data
reporting
and
collection.
D
Finally,
the
amendment
makes
certain
changes
to
the
duties
of
a
school
district
superintendent,
parent
conferences,
consideration
of
individualized
educational
plan
needs
a
plan
for
reinstatement
of
certain
students
and
an
appeals
process
for
disciplinary
actions
and
assemblywoman
Taylor
proposed
an
amendment
adding
assembly
members,
Hanson
and
bilbrey
Axelrod
as
primary
sponsors
to
the
Bill.
Thank
you
chair.
A
Might
be
one
of
those
days?
Okay,
so
I
don't
see
any
questions
so
with
that
I
would
take
a
motion
to
amend
a
new
pass
assembly.
Woman
Torres
has
made
the
motion.
Do
I
have
a
second
I'm
going
to
give
it
to
assemblywoman.
Hanson
now
is
an
appropriate
time
to
make
question
or
comment
Vice
chair,
Taylor.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I'll
make
it
clear
to
the
committee
that
you
may
be
missing
a
simply
Bill
194,
which
was
submitted
primary
sponsor
from
assembly
woman
Hanson.
Well,
you
may
have
known
as
we
combined
the
bills
and
I
want
to
thank
her
for
her
support
in
that
to
make
just
make
it
a
better
Bill
and
to
strengthen
them
together
and
just
thank
everyone
who
provided
feedback
and
input,
so
we
can
get
to
where
we
are
today.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
You,
madam
chair,
unfortunately
or
fortunately,
I,
will
be
a
no
a
strong
no
on
this
bill.
My
reasons
for
it
is
that
no
child
in
the
state
of
Nevada
should
be
a
throwaway,
and
this
bill
with
the
expulsion
of
children
would
make
it
so
that
we
have
throw
away
children
nowhere
in
this
bill.
A
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
and
I
know
you're,
quite
passionate
about
that
and
I
appreciate
that
and
I
I'm
wearing
Tyrone's
pin
today
to
remind
myself
that
I
did
want
to
point
out
in
the
amendment.
There
is
a
plan
for
reinstatement.
It
says
a
plan
for
reinstatement
must
be
included,
so
we
are
addressing
that
issue.
I
I
appreciate
your
passion.
It
looks
like
you
want
to
make
another
comment.
I
A
J
Of
trash
for
killing
committee
Council,
so
on
page
three
of
the
proposed
amendment
in
the
work
session
document,
the
second
row
up
from
the
bottom.
This
is
detailing
the
things
that
must
be
included
in
a
restorative
justice
plan
of
action
and
the
the
final
item
on
that
list
is
a
plan
for
reinstatement
of
a
student
who
was
expelled
after
the
successful
completion
of
certain
steps.
A
We
have
a
couple
comments,
but
I
I
did
want
to
say
on
the
record
that
that
was
my
concern
too.
Kids
are
kids,
I,
don't
care
if
they're
black
brown
white
yeah,
whatever
they're
kids,
and
they
should
have
an
option
to
be
reinstated.
We
do
not
want
to
throw
these
kids
away,
then
we
do
not
want
to
throw
Nevada's
kids
away
so
with
that
I
will
go
to
assemblywoman,
Hanson
and
then
assemblywoman
Torres.
A
K
You
madam
chair
Madam,
chair
and
thank
you
committee
for
the
work
on
this
I,
really
want
to
thank
assemblywoman
Taylor
and
some
woman
Taurus
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
collaboration
I'm.
More
than
glad
to
have
these
bills
married
and
I
I
think
I
can
speak
for
all
of
us.
We
are
here
because
we
love
kids.
We
want
to
do
what's
best
for
kids
and
I
can
assure
you.
I
would
never
be
involved
with
the
bill
that
would
throw
away
children.
K
So
we
are
all
in
support
of
a
reinstatement
plan,
as
spelled
out
in
the
amendment,
and
we
worked
with
those
who
were
in
opposition
during
the
original
hearing
and
I.
Think
we've
reflected
that
in
the
Amendments,
but
we
will
continue
to
have
conversations.
We
are
open
to
those
if
we've
missed
something,
but
we
need
to
establish
some
equilibrium
in
the
classroom
and
safety
to
our
teachers
and
to
our
students,
but
still
watching
and
trying
to
protect
kids
from
from.
We
want
them
to
have
a
path
back
when
that
is
when
that's
possible.
K
G
Thank
you,
chair
and
I
also
want
to
commend
the
sponsor
for
working
together
on
this
piece
of
legislation.
I.
We
have
met
at
this
point
for
hours
and
hours
so
that
we
could
come
to
a
piece
of
legislation
that
makes
sense
for
Nevada
teachers
make
sense
for
Nevada
students.
I
mean
I,
think
that
this
piece
of
legislation
does
exactly
that.
G
I
do
want
to
note
to
the
committee
too,
and
to
the
members
of
the
public
some
of
the
language
that
has
gone
in
to
address
some
of
those
concerns,
specifically
regarding
making
sure
that
there
was
language
about
re-entry
which
has
already
been
noted,
but
then
also
ensuring
that
this
also
ties
more
to
social,
emotional
learning
and
the
emotional
health
of
our
students,
and
so
one
of
the
pieces
of
this
legislation
that
I
think
makes
it
makes
this
legislation
so
Monumental
is.
G
It
will
require
that
once
a
student
has
been
suspended
or
expelled,
the
restorative
justice
plan
would
be
created.
That's
not
saying
that
you
have
to
require
that
plan
to
be
created
before
you
can
suspender
Excel,
but
saying
now
that
you
have
done
this,
we
have
to
think
about
how
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
the
student
is
getting
the
services
that
they
need.
G
That
includes
determining
whether
or
not
that
student
needs
an
IEP
that
includes
determining
whether
or
not
that
student
needs
wraparound
services
that
that
also
includes
you
know
whether
or
not
that
student
needs
additional
family
support
or
interventions
on
their
campus,
and
these
are
supports
that
are
often
already
provided
by
that
school
and
so
I
think
that
this
is
really
going
to
ensure
that
students
that
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
school
discipline
that
are
disproportionately
suspended
and
expelled,
get
access
to
the
services
that
our
schools
have
to
offer.
G
And
so
for
me,
this
piece
of
legislation
is
going
to
be
really
key
to
keeping
our
students
in
the
classroom
and
then
once
they
are
given
time
out
of
the
classroom
that
they
get
the
support
and
the
services
that
they
need
and
that
they
deserve.
So.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
One
more
chair,
just
one
more
assembly
with
my
Thomas.
Thank
you.
You
know
when
I
look
at
this
amendment
and
I
look
at
establishes
the
age
of
six
and
above
for
expulsion.
Six
and
above
you
know,
six
years
old,
they
don't
even
know
how
to
write
their
name
and
you're
ready
to
take
them
out
of
class,
and
then
you
say,
oh
well,
once
they're
out
of
class,
then
we'll
give
them
those
wraparound
Services.
No,
that's
not
the
answer
so
again.
No
emphatically!
No
all
right.
E
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
just
want
to
put
on
the
record
that
I
was
a
no
during
the
hearing,
but
because
of
the
amendment
that
has
the
quarterly
data
collected
by
each
school
and
District.
That
I
will
vote
it
out
of
the
committee
today,
but
want
to
put
it
on
the
record
that
the
purpose
of
that
is
that
we
can
see
by
each
quarter
what
is
happening
in
our
schools
in
our
school
district.
A
Thank
you
for
that
assembly
woman.
Any
other
questions.
Okay,
with
that
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass,
did
I
already
do
that?
Okay,
just
wanted
to
make
sure,
because
last
time,
I
didn't
okay,
so
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
those
opposed
to
say,
nay
and
raise
your
hand
if
you're
Renee,
assemblywoman
Thomas
is
an
a
motion
carries
and
I
will
assign
that
floor
statement
to
you,
Vice
chair.
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
next
bill
on
work
session
is
assembly
Bill
296,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
instructional
time
in
public
schools.
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
April
6.
assembly.
Bill
296
prohibits
the
use
of
more
than
2
percent
of
the
total
number
of
annual
attendance
minutes
required
for
a
pupil
for
conducting
or
preparing
an
examination
or
assessment,
and
outline
certain
exceptions
to
this
prohibition.
D
It
also
outlines
certain
Provisions
related
to
the
count
of
pupils
for
apportionment
purposes
regarding
instructional
time
and
provides
further
details.
Concerning
such
time,
assemblyman
Da
Silva
submitted
an
amendment
adding
certain
test
exemptions,
removing
the
apportionment
penalty
outlining
certain
tracking
Provisions,
defining
assessment
and
clarifying
language
concerning
instructional
time.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
A
F
You
chair
and
and
I
also
wanted
to
thank
the
sponsor,
because
I
told
him
literally
I
think
what
two
hours
ago
about
some
items
that
had
been
brought
up
to
me
for
concerns
and
I
believe
two
of
the
items
have
already
been
addressed
now
with
this
amendment.
So
I
greatly
appreciate
the
amendment
being
in
there.
F
However,
I
will
be
a
no
at
this
time
for
the
main
reason
that
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
the
amount
of
work
of
tracking
this
to
be
placed
onto
teachers
and
administrators
shoulders,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
being
able
to
work
with
you
about
possibly
bringing
forward
some
other
language
about
that.
Just
because
I
am
very
concerned
about
it
being
just
one
more
thing
on
educator
shoulders
and
I:
don't
want
the
data
to
be
based
upon
who
had
the
training
correctly
and
who
didn't
have
the
training
correctly.
F
K
E
Thank
you,
chair,
I'll,
just
put
on
the
record.
I
will
be
a
yes
out
of
committee,
I'm,
worried
about
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
that
different
schools
have
different
tests
and
that
there's
Equitable
access,
but
the
sponsor
and
I
have
been
in
multiple
discussions
about
what
is
the
state
rule
versus
the
local
role,
but
I
will
be
watching
for
that
when
when
and
if
it
goes
through.
Thank
you.
L
You
chair,
I
Echo,
some
similar
concerns
about
teacher
time,
but
I've
talked
to
the
sponsor
and
he's
committed
to
working
on
that
amendment.
To
make
sure
this
is
not
put
on
our
teachers,
and
so
with
that
I
will
be
a
yes,
but
I'll
continue
to
work
with
him.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
colleagues
for
your
input.
You
know,
like
I,
said
doing
the
the
actual
presentation
of
this
bill,
where
this
is
not
a
perfect
building.
Working
on
addressing
several
of
these
issues,
we
did
specifically
try
to
add
language
that
addressed
the
the
burdens
that
we're
going
to
be
put
on
reporting
vis-a-vis
the
teachers
themselves.
That
was
a
little
bit
too
late.
I
know
because
of
the
deadline
that
the
chair
put
upon
us,
so
that
will
be
addressed
and
we'll
be
part
of
this.
M
This
this
bill
moving
forward
and
I
also
I,
do
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
for
your
other
considerations,
and
we
will
be
implementing
most
of
this
into
our
into
our
bill
as
we
move
forward.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
Sharon.
Thank
you.
Colleagues.
A
D
D
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
April
4th
assembly.
Bill
323
addresses
various
teacher
recruitment
measures.
It
requires
the
state
superintendent
to
develop
a
strategic
plan
in
this
regard.
It
also
outlines
certain
requirements
for
the
commission
on
Professional
Standards
in
education
to
adopt
regulations
relating
to
competency,
test
requirements,
established
standards
for
professional
development
training
and
adopt
certain
regulations
concerning
provisional
licensing.
D
The
bill
also
authorizes
a
school
district
to
compensate
and
assign
student
for
certain
training
purposes.
Finally,
the
bill
creates
a
permanent
incentivizing
Pathways
to
teaching
program
outline
certain
Provisions
concerning
the
program
and
outline
certain
authorization
and
eligibility
requirements
for
certain
scholarships
and
stipends
related
to
teacher
preparation
assembly
woman
tourists
submitted
an
amendment
that
makes
changes
relating
to
the
transcript
translation
process,
prescribes
the
study
of
certain
licensing
tests
and
make
certain
inclusions
of
alternative
route
to
licensure
teachers,
as
well
as
charter
schools
and
university
schools.
D
It
also
adds
certain
certain
requirements
relating
to
professional
development
on
family
engagement
and
Multicultural
studies
and
add
certain
development
and
presentation
requirements
for
a
plan
that
expands
awareness
and
eliminates
barriers
for
the
teacher
pathway,
scholarship
programs.
Finally,
the
bill
removes
sections
2,
9
and
10..
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you,
Mr
ozoff,
any
questions
members
see,
none
I
will
take
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass
assembly
when
Moscow
has
made.
The
motion
do
I
have
a
second
second
by
assemblywoman
Anderson.
Any
discussion
on
the
motion,
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed,
nay,
assembly,
assemblyman,
MacArthur,
you're,
a
co-sponsor
on
the
bill
that
you're
going
to
vote
against
it
I
mean
it
tracks
for
you.
A
Are
you
you're,
really
an
A
on
your
own
bill,
he's
reserving
his
right
to
change
his
mind
back
to
the
way
it
used
to
be
God?
Love.
You
God
love
you,
okay!
So
with
that,
even
though
one
of
the
sponsors
voted
no
MacArthur,
it
still
passes.
So
congratulations
to
both
of
you
and
I
will
who
should
I,
assign
it
to
him
assembly
woman.
E
H
A
D
D
A
A
G
This
is
just
a
clarifying
question
on
the
amendment
from
5B
I'm,
just
clarifying
that
that
language,
5A
and
B
I
think
it
is
because
it's
that
we
we
separate
them
out,
but
just
making
sure
that
it's
permissive
language
for
suspension,
expulsion
or
permanent
expulsion
correct.
So
so
it
would
look
similar
I.
Imagine
then,
to
what
ab194's
language
was
on
them.
G
I
apologize
I'm
looking
at
the
wrong
part,
it
would
be
eight
of
the
amendment
so
removing
the
first
occurrence
language
Additionally.
The
amendment
seeks
to
separate
them
out
and
then
add
permissive
language
to
allow
the
principal
to
make
exception
to
the
procedures.
So
would
it
be
just
that
they
would
be
able
to
suspend
Excel
and
then
permanently
expel
their.
A
How
would
that
look
the
in
section,
eight,
the
removal
of
the
term
for
first
occurrence,
the
what
we're
going
for,
and
that
is
that,
so
it
would
one
example
was
like
an
illegal
substance,
sort
of
giving
the
the
principle
the
option.
If
someone
comes-
and
you
know
accidentally
brought
a
gummy
from
home-
you
know
that's
very
different
than
someone
with
going
out
and
selling
drugs,
so
we
were
giving
that
that
big
Lebanese.
G
A
Thank
you
quest
question
for
vice
chair.
Thank.
C
You,
madam
chair,
for
clarification
purposes
number
two
on
the
amendment
mentions
permanently
expelled
and
and
in
285
that
we
just
approved
said
that
basically,
kids,
always
students
always
have
a
way
back.
How
do
those
work
together
or
does
this
permanent
expel
permanently
expelled
does
not
really
mean
permanent.
A
That
is
actually
specifically
for
the
age
that
an
A
Child
under
six
in
this
bill
in
this
language
cannot
be
permanently
expelled,
and
that
was
the
specific
to
that
section.
Mr
Killian
did
you
want
to
add?
Is
that
a
fair
he's
saying
yes,
so
yeah?
So
it
was
specific
to
the
children
of
that
age.
They
cannot
be
permanently
expelled.
C
A
Right:
okay,
we're
back
so
in
the
proposed
language
of
this
bill.
It
was,
it
was
just
addressed
that
under
six
could
not
be
permanently
expelled.
I
do,
however,
believe
that
it
is
the
governor's
intent
that
we
are
not
giving
up
on
any
kid
in
Nevada
either,
and
so
we
will
continue
to
have
discussions
about
those
re-entry
programs,
but
currently
in
the
bill.
That
was
the
only
thing
that
was
addressed
was
that
under
six,
so
but
but
in
good
faith,
we
will
I'm
nodding
over
at
someone
from
the
governor's
office.
A
A
Just
gonna
entertain
us:
she
assembly,
woman,
Taurus,
has
made
the
motion
to
amend
and
do
past
do.
I
have
a
second
assemblyman
de
Silva
has
seconded
now
assemblywoman
Thomas
I
know
you
have
a
comment.
Yes,.
I
I
do
in
this
bill
again.
I
will
be
a
a
hard.
No,
when
I
look
at
significant
suspensions,
expulsions
and
permanent
expulsions,
and
then
the
bill
does
not
address
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
It
gives
a
pass
to
under
six.
I
It
doesn't
it.
It
mentions
homeless
children,
but
it
doesn't
mention
disabled
children,
ISP
kids
I
mean
this
is.
This
is
unbelievable
to
me
that
we
in
the
United
States
of
America
in
the
state
of
Nevada,
are
willing
to
put
our
children
through
this
garbage
when
we
have
the
money
and
the
willpower
and
we
can
have
kids
rehabilitate
instead
of
waiting
to
them
to
get
into
prison
to
rehabilitate
them.
This
is
unbelievable
and
bar
it
be
the
governor's
bill.
G
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
chair
I
know
that
I
had
proposed
a
number
of
recommendations.
His
piece
of
legislation
I
appreciate
the
chair
and
the
sponsor
for
working
with
me,
so
that
we
I
could
get
to
a
place
where
I
I'm,
I'm
content
with
passing
this
language
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
pass
legislation.
That's
going
to
keep
our
kids
safe,
while
also
prioritizing
ensuring
our
students
have
access
to
the
resources
that
they
need
on
our
school
campuses.
Thank
you.
G
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'm,
going
to
concur
with
the
whole
idea
being
providing
the
opportunities
for
students
to
all
students
to
have
an
opportunity
to
come
back
and
for
the
supports
to
be
around
them.
I
can
support.
I
can
support
this
bill
because
we
just
passed
285.
I
think
they
work
in
concert
in
285.
There
was.
There
was
a
discussion
about
students
with
IEPs
or
discussion
about
the
wraparound
services
and
about
the
social
emotional
learning
and
about
the
training.
That's
required.
C
Those
supports
that
will
be
necessary
to
make
sure
that
that
the
whole
idea
is
to
keep
children
on
the
path
where
they
can
continue
to
move
forward,
while
keeping
schools
safe,
so
I
feel
comfortable,
passing
ab330
knowing
there's
some
other
conversations
to
close
the
door
on
permanent
expulsion.
I.
Don't
think
anybody
wants
that
because
we've
passed
285.
A
Thank
you,
Vice,
chair
and
and
I
believe.
That
is
the
feeling
that
they
would
very
much
work
in
concert
with
each
other.
So
with
that
I
will
say
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay
assemblywoman
Thomas
is
a
nay
motion.
Carries
and
I
will
take
that
Fuller
statement.
D
D
A
Seen
then
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass.
Assemblywoman
Anderson
has
made.
The
motion.
Do
I
have
a
second
second
by
assembly,
woman
Taurus.
Any
questions
or
comments
on
the
motion
see
none
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
opposed,
nay,
motion
carries
unanimously
and
I
will
give
that
floor
statement
to
assembly
woman
Thomas
next
week.
Next
we
have
assembly
bill
357.
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
next
bill
on
work
session
is
assembly
Bill
357,
which
revises
Provisions
governing
sexual
education
in
public
schools.
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
April
11th
assembly.
Bill
357
requires
the
Board
of
Trustees
of
a
school
district
to
establish
and
periodically
revise
a
course,
or
course
unit
of
evidence-based,
factual
instruction
in
sexuality
education
and
establishes
certain
conditions
of
the
course,
including
conditions
concerning
the
course
instructor.
D
It
also
makes
certain
changes
to
the
advisory
committee
relating
to
such
a
course.
Additionally,
ab357
provides
certain
conditions
concerning
parental
or
Guardian
notification
and
abilities,
including
the
ability
for
a
parent
or
Guardian
to
refuse
authorization
for
a
people
to
attend
the
course
or
certain
lessons.
D
Furthermore,
the
bill
requires
that
the
Board
of
Trustees
annually
prepare
and
submit
a
report
to
certain
bodies
concerning
the
course.
Finally,
it
outlines
certain
standards
for
instruction
in
health
relating
to
sexuality,
education.
No
amendments
were
proposed
for
this
measure.
Thank
you,
chair
thank.
A
A
Oh
just
kidding,
okay
with
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed,
nay
raise
your
hands,
please
I,
think
I
know
we
have
Hardy
MacArthur
Dr
sax
Ed's
voting
against
sex
ed!
Oh
that's!
That's
Hanson!
She
called
herself
that
not
me
and
and
Mr
Koenig
assemblyman
Koenig
knows
with
that
motion
carries
and
I'm
going
to
take
that
one
as
well
assembly
bill
372.
D
Thank
you
chair.
The
last
bill
on
work
session
is
assembly
Bill
372,
which
revises
Provisions
relating
to
higher
education.
The
committee
heard
this
bill
on
April
4th
assembly.
Bill
372
authorizes
the
Board
of
Regents
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
a
non-profit
organization,
Community
entity
or
governmental
agency
to
jointly
provide
families
and
caretakers
with
training,
workshops
and
resources
designed
to
facilitate
family
engagement
in
early
childhood
education.
D
A
A
A
Okay
with
that,
we
will
close
our
work
session
and
open
our
hearing
for
today,
we'll
now
open
the
hearing
on
ab282
a
measure
establishes
this
measure
establishes
Provisions
governing
a
subsidy
for
certain
substitute
teachers.
To
present
this
measure,
we
have
assemblywoman
Summers
Armstrong,
welcome
to
the
most
excellent
committee
on
education
and
please
begin
when
you're
ready.
N
Thank
you,
madam
chairwoman,
and
thank
and
madam
chairwoman
Wilbur
Axelrod
and
a
co-chair
woman,
Miss
Taylor
and
all
the
members
of
the
education
committee.
My
name
is
Chandra
Summers,
Armstrong
and
I
am
the
assembly
representative
for
the
fabulous,
the
wonderful,
the
excellent
Assembly
District
Six
y'all
live
all
these
words,
so
I'm
just
helping
you
out
with
some
new
ones.
N
For
today
it
is
wonderful
to
see
you
all,
and
it
is
a
pleasure
and
an
honor
to
sit
in
front
of
you
today
to
present
to
you
assembly,
bill
282.,
which
is
requesting
that
school
districts
provide
health
insurance
for
their
substitute.
Teachers
now
start
off
with
a
little
levity.
But
this
is
a
serious,
very
serious
issue.
N
Permanent
openings
in
the
in
the
school
district
alone
and
those
openings
are
being
filled
by
about
4
000
substitutes,
one-fifth
of
which,
which
is
about
800
Subs,
are
long-term
Subs.
Without
these
folks,
we
would
have
no
one
in
our
classrooms
to
teach
our
children.
N
You
will
hear
from
my
co-presenter
atar
hesibula
who's,
the
executive
director
of
the
Nevada
ACLU
that
these
substitutes
make
somewhere
around
120
on
average
a
day
now,
I'm,
not
a
mathematician
I
always
have
to
have
a
calculator
or
Excel
who's.
My
best
friend,
to
help
me
figure
things
out,
but
I
can
tell
you
just
on
a
glance
that
that
is
not
enough
money
for
anyone.
Even
if
you
are
working
every
day
to
afford
rent
groceries
and
health
insurance.
N
I
would
challenge
you
to
go
to
the
health
Exchange
and
see
how
much
it
would
cost
for
an
individual
or
an
individual
with
a
family
and
see
if
you
can
make
that
math
work.
So
I
appreciate
your
attention.
I'm,
going
to
turn
this
presentation
over
to
Mr
hessebula,
and
he
will
take
you
through.
Thank
you.
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
assembly,
woman,
Summers
Armstrong.
Thank
you
to
the
members
of
committee
for
the
record.
Atar
hassibullah
first
name
spelled
a
t
h.
A
r
last
name
spelled
h-a-s-e-e-b-u-l-l-a-h
I'm,
the
executive
director
for
the
American
civil
liberties,
Union
of
Nevada,
also
a
civil
rights
lawyer
by
background.
We're
going
to
begin
this
presentation
today
and
I
understand
it's
committee
deadline,
but
we
have
a
very
short
video
that
was
prepared,
that'll
kind
of
contextualize,
some
of
what's
going
on.
Hopefully,
the
audio
works.
O
Okay,
I'm
not
sure,
what's
going
on
with
the
video,
it's
on
Nellis
I'll
go
ahead
and
share
the
highlights,
though,
what
you
would
hear
in
that
video,
if
it
were
to
play
and
for
anybody,
that's
tuning
in,
is
you'd,
be
able
to
actually
hear
from
a
couple
long-term
substitute
Educators
about
their
experiences
and
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
we're
running
into
statewide.
Right
now,
obviously,
is
teacher
shortages.
What's
something
something
that
continues
to
exist.
Statewide,
though,
is
that
our
substitute
educators
are
not
afforded
basic
dignity,
basic
decency.
O
These
are
the
same
Educators
that
fill
classrooms
and
they're
not
entitled
to
any
benefits.
In
fact,
many
districts
Statewide
actually
have
specifications
in
place
that
a
long-term
substitute
teacher,
a
short-term
substitute
teacher,
any
substitute
teacher,
will
be
entitled
to
no
benefits
that
includes
health
insurance
coverage.
So
what
do
we
have?
We
have
individuals
who
are
stuck
filling
the
gaps
day
in
and
day
out,
teaching
our
kids
and
no
support
these
individuals.
O
Don't
always
even
have
the
the
ability
to
be
in
a
position
where
they're
able
to
bargain
there's
no
bargaining
unit
that
represents
substitute
Educators
as
of
right
now,
because
the
cost
the
time
equity
and
the
challenges
associated
with
doing
so
are
sometimes
too
much.
These
folks
are
making
120
a
day
and
being
taken
advantage
of
it's
critical
that
we
get
them
some
level
of
support
in
place.
We
continue
to
talk
about
a
teacher
shortage
overall,
and
we
focus
on
not
retaining
our
our
current
licensed
teachers.
O
We
focus
on
not
being
able
to
recruit
new
teachers,
and
these
are
true
and
what's
also
true
simultaneously,
is
that
we
are
running
into
a
teacher,
a
substitute
teacher
shortage
as
well,
and
that
includes
long-term
Subs.
That
is
the
fire.
That's
not
being
put
out
it's
the
fire
that
nobody
is
talking
about,
but
it's
a
fire
that's
going
to
impact
the
state
for
years
to
come.
If
we
don't
figure
out
ways
to
address
it
right
now,
what
this
bill
would
do.
Ab282
would
provide
a
subsidy
to
provide
support
for
our
long-term
Educators.
O
We
dubbed
this
to
health
insurance
for
long-term
substitute
teachers,
act
hilsa.
For
that
specific
reason,
what
would
it
do?
The
very
first
thing
it
would
do
is
it
would
Define
long-term
substitute
now
there
is
an
amendment
that
was
put
in
Nellis.
We've
shared
that
with
most
of
the
stakeholders
involved
here,
and
what
that
would
do
is
make
the
definition
clear,
Statewide
we
use
the
most
stringent
definition
of
what
a
long-term
substitute
teacher
is
here,
because
it's
important
that
they
get
something.
O
Every
substitute
teacher
we've
spoken
to
has
told
us
the
same
thing
that,
regardless
of
what
the
day
count
is
they
continue
to
run.
Thank
you.
They
continue
to
run
into
the
same
challenges
in
that
they
don't
have
the
basic
ability
to
afford
health
insurance.
They
don't
have
the
basic
ability
to
functionally
live
and
it's
become
too
much
and
too
burdensome,
so
they'd
rather
leave
and
go
into
a
different
position
altogether.
O
How
can
we
justify,
as
a
society
individuals
being
in
a
classroom
for
a
prolonged
period
of
time,
not
being
afforded
any
dignity
and
forced
to
be
on
Nevada
Medicaid?
It
makes
no
sense,
so
the
bill
would
Define
long-term
substitute.
It
would
provide
a
monthly
subsidy
for
long-term
substitute
teachers
and
up
to
three
dependents
exclusively
for
the
purchase
of
health
insurance.
This
isn't
a
general
purpose
subsidy.
So,
regardless
of
what
may
be
said
or
how
things
might
be
characterized,
this
is
specific
so
that
these
individuals
can
purchase
health
insurance.
O
O
Well,
the
proposed
amendment
that
was
uploaded
in
an
Ellis
and
what
we've
shared
is
that
section
6
specifically
would
state
that
a
long-term
substitute
teacher
means
a
substitute
teacher
endorsed
pursuant
to
chapter
391
at
NRS
or
pursuant
to
Chapters
391
of
NAC
who's
employed
at
any
school
district
for
30
consecutive
available
instructional
days
within
a
single
school
year.
So
initially
we
there's
District
policies
all
over
the
place
right
now,
some
are
10.
Some
are
12.,
we've
bumped
it
to
30
consecutive
available
instructional
days
and
the
key
word
there
is
available
more
than
anything
else.
O
O
The
current
amount
of
substitutes
we
have
is
staggering.
So
before
I
jump
into
the
other
language,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I,
provided
that
definition
of
the
30
consecutive
days
and
and
the
other
criteria
for
eligibility
I'll
share
momentarily,
but
here's
the
current
substitute
totals
by
District
we've
also
uploaded
a
set
of
exhibits
into
Nellis,
including
health
insurance,
average
costs,
but
also
public
records
request
responses
from
all
of
the
districts
that
are
listed
here
on
the
screen.
O
That
is
a
painstaking
process
to
be
able
to
get
this
information,
as
you
all
might
imagine,
but
this
is
the
total
we
have
statewide.
These
are
the
current
the
current
number
of
Subs.
We
have
here's
our
current
teacher
shortage,
that's
that's
a
staggering
amount
and
we
go
to
a
long-term
Subs
falling
under
the
definition
of
30
consecutive
days,
30
consecutive
available
instructional
days.
O
That's
a
staggeringly
high
number
when
we
have
over
700
long-term
Subs
under
that
definition,
in
CCSD
alone,
and
then
you
add
100
plus
in
Washoe
County,
and
these
are
all
individuals
again
that
are
in
these
classrooms
consistently
more
than
30
days
consecutively,
no
benefits.
So
when
they
get
sick
in
a
classroom
either
they
can
go
through
a
collection
process
or
try
to
force
themselves
to
get
on
Nevada
Medicaid
to
have
some
level
of
support.
O
Qualifications
for
a
subsidy
here,
pursuant
to
this
build
again
you'd,
have
to
meet
the
definition
of
a
long-term
substitute
educator,
30
consecutive
available
instructional
days.
You'd
have
to
continue
to
teach
70
of
the
available
instructional
days
each
month.
We've
included
that
within
the
amendment
as
well.
O
O
O
Additionally,
there's
a
final
caveat
that
a
school
district
shall
not
prevent
any
substitute
teacher
for
working
the
necessary
number
of
days
to
qualify
for
the
subsidy
specified
within
this
section
solely
for
the
purposes
of
precluding
that
that
ability-
and
that
is
a
catch-all
to
make
sure
that
you've
hit
day
29
and
we've
decided
to
make
no
days
available.
So
you
can't
get
the
subsidy
I
heard
some
Chuckles,
not
sure.
If,
because
folks
could
imagine,
that
might
actually
be
a
case
of
reality
here,
but
we
are
where
we
are.
O
Why
450
that's
based
on
the
average
monthly
cost
of
non-medicare
and
Medicaid
insurance
plans
in
the
state?
Again,
we
included
that
information
within
the
exhibits
that
are
also
on
Nellis,
so
you
can
understand
where
the
perspective
comes
from.
It's
not
some
random
number.
We
pulled
out
of
this
guy
that
450
sounded
good.
This
is
the
average
rate
that
exists
and
further
proof
of
health
insurance
purchase
would
be
required.
O
Now,
there's
a
couple
other
things:
I'll
say
to
this
issue
before
we
open
it
up
for
questions
first
and
foremost,
the
concept
right
now,
and
the
reason
why
we
took
this
issue
on
is
not
because
this
is
at
its
core,
the
civil
liberties
issue
of
the
day,
but
this
is
a
civil
rights
issue
and
it's
a
deep
civil
rights
issue,
because
the
actions
that
are
occurring
with
our
substitute
teachers
Statewide
are
predatory.
This
is
a
predatory
process.
These
folks
have
been
left
out
to
dry.
There
is
nobody
pleading
their
story
right
now.
O
This
is
there's
only
a
couple
bills
up
at
session
right
now
to
be
able
to
address
this,
and
our
hope
is
that
this
can
do
two
things
one.
It
can
help
stabilize
that
labor
force
within
the
substitute
teacher
universe
and
two.
This
might
inspire
some
of
the
folks
who
are
Subs
right
now
that
are
especially
our
long-term
Subs
to
enter
into
the
the
pipeline
to
become
a
licensed
educator.
O
The
other
thing
that
I'd
share
before
I
open
it
up
for
questions,
is
you're
going
to
hear
feedback
from
school
districts
that
are
going
to
call
this
an
unfunded
mandate
right
I
was
a
government
lobbyist
at
one
point,
it's
my
favorite
two
words
to
throw
out
at
a
legislative
hearing,
unfunded
mandate
because
you
end
up
getting
referred
somewhere.
It's
not
an
unfunded
mandate.
If
you
have
licensed
Educators
in
place,
these
Provisions
won't
apply
because
you
won't
have
substitutes
at
this
number.
So
it's
not
unfunded.
O
You
funded
these
positions
for
licensed
Educators
over
the
course
of
time
and,
on
average,
the
additional
expenditure.
The
difference
in
in
salary
could
be
between
twenty
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
per
educator,
so
multiply
that
by
the
number
of
long-term
Subs
we've
shared
and
the
average
amount
of
health
insurance
that
spent
spent
on
a
licensed
educator
just
for
health
insurance
purposes
alone.
From
the
data
we
received
was
a
little
over
eight
thousand
dollars
per
year,
and
these
folks
don't
get
any
of
it.
O
So,
in
fact,
what
has
happened
is
there
has
been
budgeted,
actual
numbers
to
include
full
licensed
teachers
and
there
has
been
accrued
saving
things
as
a
result
of
predatory
actions
towards
our
long-term
Subs.
So
any
notion
that
this
is
an
unfunded
mandate
is
simply
untrue
unless
this
body
knew
that
it
was
not
funding
an
appropriate
amount
of
Educators
or
funding
Educators
at
that
level,
which
this
body
didn't
know,
you've
been
funding
the
the
full
amount
of
money
for
these
Educators
and
they
haven't
been
filling
the
vacancies
so
where's
that
money
going
right.
O
O
At
the
end
of
this,
we
had
two
subs
that
have
come
to
us
and
and
told
us
in
recent
weeks
that
they
ended
up
in
the
hospital
and
they
were
afraid
to
go
to
the
hospital,
because
you're
at
that
point,
choosing
between
the
collections
account
you're
going
to
get
put
into
or
trying
to
force
yourself
to
work,
because
you
need
to
make
that
120
a
day
to
stay
stable.
It's
not.
This
is
not
a
perfect
solution.
O
I
recognize
it
might
get
referred
to
another
committee,
I'm
happy
to
argue
about
unfunded
mandates
and
accrued
savings
and
budgeted
actual
numbers
at
a
Ways
and
Means
Committee
hearing
as
well,
no
problem
there,
but
again
we're
going
to
end
up
hearing
a
consistently
unfunded
mandate,
unfunded
mandate,
it's
been
funded,
it's
not
been
used
on
these
folks
and
we
really
need
to
do
something
about
that.
Also
before
we
go
into
questions,
we
had
no.
It's
a
committee
deadline
day.
We
had
210
people
sign
the
petition
in
support
of
this.
O
Just
in
the
last
24
hours
alone,
I
told
those
individuals
they
did
not
need
to
call
in
we're
happy
to
do
that.
For
you
all,
should
there
be
such
a
desire,
but
I
figured
it
might
not
be
the
most
prudent
use
of
your
time.
There's
also
a
series
of
support
letters
there,
both
from
long-term
substitute
teachers
who
have
shared
their
experiences,
but
also
from
other
organizations
that
work
in
the
education,
space
and
other
spaces
that
want
to
see
this
come
into
fruition.
So,
with
that
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
A
Thank
you
and
we
do
have
a
number
of
questions
I'm
going
to
just
start
out
and
I
get
it
I
totally
get
it
I'm
just
curious.
If,
based
on
what
you're
saying
about
the
amount
and
I
just
kind
of
did,
if
you
worked
nine
months
a
year
and
you
make
120
it's
about
20
little
under
twenty
four
thousand
I
used
a
calculator
though
too,
but
wouldn't
they
be
eligible
for
subsidies
on
the
through
the
ACA.
O
That's
that's
part
of
the
purpose.
Is
that
sorry
for
the
record
tahassee
Bula
executive
director
for
the
ACLU
of
Nevada?
Thank
you
for
correcting
the
assembly
woman.
It's
like
we're
back
at
work.
We
used
to
be
co-workers,
so
it's
full
swing
of
things
so
right.
So
yes,
that
that
includes
portions
that
might
end
up
being
subsidized,
but
the
actual
portion
that's
mentioned.
We
actually
did
a
calculation
based
on
that
respective
income
level
for
what
that
purchase
would
be,
and
so
generally
those
plans
end
up
being
significantly
higher.
O
O
O
There's
a
number
of
school
districts
across
the
country
right
now
that
are
providing
full
health
insurance
benefits
for
those
who
are
not
even
long-term
subs
for
all
subs
and
then,
when
we
go
to
the
number
of
districts
Nationwide
that
are
providing
health
insurance
for
long-term
Subs,
it's
even
greater.
This
is
but
a
subsidy,
but
it's
a
subsidy
that
goes
a
long
way
to
help
them
get
what
they
need,
specifically
for
the
purpose
of
being
able
to
address
their
medical
needs.
A
N
Sure
so
I
think
it's
been
evident
over
the
last
couple
of
years
with
covid,
right
and
and
illness,
and
we
have
these
notices
all
the
time
about
upper
respiratory
diseases,
and
these
things
our
children
are
germ
carriers
I,
don't
care
how
much
we
instruct
them
to
wash
their
hands.
They
are
germ.
Carriers
and
classrooms
are
an
incubator
for
germs,
and
so
we
know
that
our
children
are,
and
these
these
substitute
teachers
are
exposed
every
day
to
germs
and
an
environment
that
could
get
them
sick.
N
N
Many
of
us
of
privilege,
of
having
this
type
of
insurance,
that
it
is
not
available
to
them
and
I
I
am
just
I'm
sad
right
that
the
school
district
is
on
the
list
of
having
some
of
the
the
most
Medicaid
receiving
employees,
and
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
take
that
into
consideration.
A
Thank
you.
So
we,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
a
number
of
questions.
We'll
start
with
some
people
in
Moscow.
E
O
For
the
record
atarh
hasi
Bula
executive
director
for
the
ACLU
of
Nevada
and
I
appreciate
the
question
assemblywoman
Moscow.
It
depends
on
the
district
right.
So
when
we
we
look
at
most
of
these
districts,
they're
actually
providing
comprehensive
coverage
in
this
way
in
terms
of
what
I've
mentioned
before
for
their
substitute
Educators
or
their
long-term
Subs,
especially
these
large
districts.
O
Nationwide
again
we're
here
right
now
for
purposes
of
getting
a
subsidy,
because
this
has
been
an
uphill
battle
to
get
to
a
point
where
substitute
Educators
have
a
boy
to
be
able
to
push
this
narrative
and
have
a
bill
before
the
legislature.
That's
being
heard
where
they
might
end
up
with
at
least
a
modicum
of
dignity
afforded
to
them,
so
they
cannot
go
out
and
purchase.
Health
insurance
is
a
significant
step
right.
The
hope
would
be
moving
forward,
that
they
would
have
health
insurance
as
well.
O
That
would
be
the
aclu's
goal
as
a
whole
right
and
not
have
to
utilize
a
subsidy
to
go
out
and
purchase
it,
and
sometimes
we
recognize
the
challenges
there,
but
the
exchange
is
available
for
that
purpose.
One
other
point:
I'll
make
that
assembly
woman,
Summers
Armstrong,
commented
on
when
we're
talking
about
Medicaid
and
I
had
mentioned
accrued
savings
and
unfunded
mandates.
O
Is
it
an
unfunded
mandate
if
your
employees
are
forced
under
state
coverage
through
Nevada
Medicaid,
because
you
don't
want
to
give
them
enough
money
to
purchase
health
insurance
right,
that's
something
that
doesn't
come
up
with
an
asterisk
next
to
it.
It's
something,
though,
that
we
should
take
into
account
when
we're
doing
this,
because
these
are
folks
who
again
have
been
working
full
time.
There's
no
question:
if
you
compare
this
to
a
full-time
schedule,
it's
even
more
rigorous.
The
requirements
put
here
than
an
ordinary
full-time
schedule
to
qualify
30
consecutive
days,
isn't
something
that
normally
happens.
O
You
might
be
able
to
take
a
break
it's
normally
after
your
first
month,
you're
eligible.
But
that's
not
what's
happened
here,
because
we
recognize
it's
an
uphill
battle.
So
from
our
vantage
point
there
should
be
Universal
support
for
this
unless
someone's
against
Private
health,
insurance
or
they're
against
the
concept
of
working
almost
indefinitely
for
next
to
nothing.
G
Thank
you
for
this
information.
I
do
have
a
couple
just
like
logistical
questions
and
maybe
points
of
clarification.
I'm,
looking
at
section
one
sub
six
with
the
definition
of
long-term
sub,
and
we
did
check
the
next
and
the
and
the
NRS
to
see
if
there
was
any
other
definition
of
long-term
substitute
teacher
and
there
isn't,
which
is
weird,
because
it's
also
referred
to
other
places
in
the
interest.
But
I
do
have
a
couple
issues.
G
What
the
definition
as
is
because
I
and
I
I
just
need
to
understand
what
the
intent
is,
whether
or
not
the
intent,
because
my
understanding
of
long-term
sub
as
an
educator
is
a
long-term
sub,
is
an
educator
who's
put
into
a
classroom
replacing
an
educator
for
a
long
period
of
time.
But
through
my
reading
of
this
definition,
it
would
just
be
a
substitute
teacher
who's
teaching
for
15
or
more
consecutive
days
within
a
school
year.
G
O
Thank
you
for
the
question:
assemblywoman
Torres
for
the
record
of
tarasi
Bula
ACLU
of
Nevada,
actually
that
language
was
specifically
amended
and
put
into
the
amendment
with
respect
to
the
long-term
definition,
but
I'll
provide
a
couple
other
qualifying
criteria
most
important,
which
of
which
is
that
this
is
only
for
purposes
of
determining
determining
eligibility
for
the
subsidy,
so
this
cannot
be
utilized
in
other
sections
if
there
were
to
be
other
benefits
given
or
something
else
of
the
sort.
The
reason
why
this
language
is
specifically
being
utilized
is
for
purposes
of
determining
determining
eligibility
here.
O
The
requirements
for
determining
that
eligibility
would
begin
30
consecutive
available
instructional
days.
Seventy
percent
of
the
available
instructional
days
and
the
months
thereafter,
and
really
what
that
does
is
it
provides
that
you're
working
the
first
30-day
period
consecutively,
seventy
percent
of
the
days
thereafter
and
you're
in
a
district
at
that
time.
The
the
reason
why
we
can't
specifically
prescribe
it
to
a
specific
classroom
is
because
we
recognize
there's
not
only
changing
needs
within
districts,
but
they'll
utilize,
long-term
sub
move
them
around.
O
You
might
be
in
a
class
for
two
months
and
a
month
later,
you'll
be
in
a
separate
class
for
the
next
two
months
and
going
on
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
But
what
we
don't
want
to
happen
is
someone
during
that
time
period
moves
into
a
different
classroom
and
then
they're
precluded
from
eligibility
for
for
subsidy
purposes.
G
Thank
you
so
then,
based
off
that
I
think
we're
really
talking
about
full-time
substitute
teachers
right.
So
those
are
two
different
conversations
and
I
think
that
just
helps
with
clarifying
and
it
might
be
helpful
to
kind
of
use
that
language
just
because
in
education,
our
use
of
a
long-term
sub
is
just
so
different
and
I
think
well.
Our
intent
is
to
ensure
that
it's
available
for
full-time
substitute
teachers
that
are
doing
that
job
I
would
like
to
strengthen
the
language
used
in
the
amendment.
G
G
I
think
the
language
needs
to
be
clarified
that
a
school
district
or
School
additionally
I
would
like
to
see
language
in
their
protecting,
paraprofessionals
or
or
when
they're
switching
the
duties
of
that
assigned
educator
that
they
would
will
be
include
included
in
this
essentially.
O
For
the
record
of
tarasi
bull
ACLU
of
Nevada,
with
respect
to
whether
or
not
they're
deemed
long-term
subs
or
full-time
full-term,
Subs
happy
to
work
through
the
language
there.
For
us
main
thing
is
that
there's
there's
health
insurance
subsidies
in
place,
regardless
of
the
the
title.
With
respect
to
the
second
point,
in
terms
of
amendment
four,
we
specifically
utilize
this
language,
because
what
we
did
not
want
to
do
was
show
up
to
a
Committee
hearing
like
this
or
future
committee
hearings
and
include
language.
O
O
We
want
to
make
sure
that
this
gets
across
the
aisle
it
doesn't
get
held
up
for
any
arbitrary
reason,
because,
as
it
stands
right
now
again,
these
folks
are
operating
without
any
benefits
whatsoever
and
so
to
the
degree
we
can
make
a
better
Bill
happy
to
do
that
and
very
grateful
to
hear
your
your
words
on
this
and
I'm
sure
the
substitute
teachers
that
are
tuned
in
and
watching.
This
will
be
appreciative
as
well.
P
So
my
I
have
a
son-in-law
well,
first
off
I,
when
I
hear
this
I
put
on
my
school
board
hat
and
back
to
the
day
when
there
was
unfunded,
mandates
and
I'm.
Looking
at
you
know,
this
is
going
to
cost
Las
Vegas,
it's
almost
17
million.
It's
going
to
cost
Washoe
a
little
under
3
million,
it's
going
to
cost
Carson
700
000
I,
calculated,
cost
Churchill
about
500,
000
and
so
I'm
thinking
unfunded
mandate.
It's
happened
before
sitting
on
the
school
board.
All
of
a
sudden.
P
You
got
to
find
in
your
budget,
this
extra
money
but
I
think
you're,
a
very
good
attorney,
because
you
kind
of
convinced
me
that
they
would
have
been
paying
benefits
to
these
people
if
they
I
mean
the
ideal
isn't
to
have
a
long-term
sub
in
the
class.
Ideal
is
to
have
a
teacher,
and
if
you
had
the
teacher
like
you
wanted,
you
would
be
paying
that
teacher
benefits.
P
I
have
a
son-in-law
who
is
just
finishing
up
his
teaching
degree,
but
he
is
teaching
eighth
grade
English
for
the
whole
year,
so
he
is
a
long-term
sub
him
and
my
daughter
are
in
the
process
of
buying
a
house.
They
cannot
use
any
of
his
income
towards
qualifying
for
a
loan
because
he
is
a
long-term
sub.
P
F
You
and
I
I
did
need
that
little
bit
of
a
giggle,
so
I
have
three
questions,
but
I'll
try
to
make
them
quick.
The
first
one
has
to
do
with
why
the
decision
and
the
amendment
to
change
it
from
15
to
30
days,
because
if
I
were
to
take
a
look
at
the
Clark
County
School
District
calendar
for
next
year
and
if
day,
one
of
August
7th
there
is
somebody
that
is
a
long-term
sub
or
full-time
sub
or
whatever
the
phrase
will
be.
F
They
would
not
be
able
to
be
even
eligible
for
this
until
September
19th
and
then,
if
I
take
a
look
at
Washoe,
County,
School
District,
it
would
be
August
14th
that
they
would
start
and
again
that
would
be
September
25th.
So
I'm
wondering
why
the
decision
was
made
and
the
amendment
to
make
it
from
15
to
30
days
and
then
also
can
a
school
district
or
a
Board
of
Trustees
make
a
decision
to
bring
that
back
down
to
30
or
back
down
to
15,
as
is
originally
described
in
this
Bill.
Thank.
O
You
for
the
question:
assemblywoman
Anderson
for
the
record
atarhasi
bull
executive,
director
of
the
ACLU
of
Nevada,
the
decision
to
make
the
decision
was
made
to
bump
it
up
to
30
days,
because
we
did
have
extensive
conversations
with
stakeholders
and
one
of
the
things
that
kept
coming
up
was
that
15
days
is
too
short
of
a
period
of
time.
You
would
never
qualify
for
health
insurance
or
any
other
benefit
in
another
employment
setting
if
you're
only
working
15
days,
the
standard
form
ends
up
being
you
work
30
days
and
you're
eligible
for
it.
O
Thereafter
we
had
to
put
in
the
available
instructional
days
for
that
period
of
time,
because
many
times
those
of
those
days
are
not
made
available
and
If
those
days
are
not
made
available.
Again,
we
run
into
challenges
on
the
back
end
to
assembly
in
koenigs
point
one
thing
we
recognized
was:
the
goal
is
not
to
have
Subs
in
place
in
classrooms,
especially
long-term
Subs.
We
want
licensed
Educators
there.
O
With
respect
to
the
second
point
and
whether
or
not
a
district
has
the
ability
to
modify
downward
they,
what
the
district
would
have
an
ability
to
also
voluntarily
decide
to
provide
their
long-term
substitute,
Educators
health
insurance
they've
just
chosen
through
their
own
policies
to
make
sure
they
didn't
to
make
sure
they
had
no
benefits,
and
so,
while
we'd
love
to
see
that
sort
of
you
know
good
kind,
egalitarian
nature
of
how
districts
move.
O
That's
simply
not
been
the
case,
and
so
the
limited
nature
of
this
language
to
make
sure
that
this
specific
definition
was
only
applicable
for
purposes
of
determining
a
subsidy
really.
The
reason
why
it
ends
up
being
a
little
bit
distinct
is
because
right
now,
ccsd's
policy,
for
instance,
sets
it
at
15
days.
However,
it
also
precludes
any
sort
of
benefit
It's
associated
and
so
that
that
sort
of
preclusion
at
that
point
makes
that
definition
somewhat
arbitrary.
What
becomes
the
benefit
outside
of
a
minor
and
incremental
pay
bump
of?
O
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
detailed
answer.
Any
other
question
has
to
do
with
the
date
of
effect
that
the
bill
is
currently
proposed
is
July
1
of
20
2023,
but
then,
in
the
amendment
number
two
there's
a
Board
of
Trustees
adopting
a
procedure
so
I'm.
Is
that
also
the
plan
to
try
to
adopt
that
procedure
with
that
quick
turnaround,
or
is
there
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of?
Let's
give
you
just
a
little
bit
more
time.
Just
was
wondering
about
the
date
of
implementation,
for.
O
The
record
of
Taurus
Ebola
executive
director
for
the
ACLU
of
Nevada,
the
date
this
would
take
into
effect,
would
obviously
be
the
date
that's
specified,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
this
goes
into
effect
next
year.
If
we
kick
it
out
another
year
or
kick
it
out
in
10
months,
it
would
end
up
being
too
long.
Now.
O
The
the
specific
amendment
number
two
discusses
the
procedure
to
track
when
it
goes
into
effect
and
that
tracking
becomes
critical
because,
as
we
know,
we
come
back
with
data
which
we
attempted
to
parse
through,
as
we
were
going
through.
The
public
records
requests
and
I
also
enjoy
a
good
Excel
sheet
here
and
again,
but
it's
probably
not
best
for
purposes
of
determining
some
of
this.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
uniform,
so
that
procedure
to
track
when
the
subsidy
goes
into
effect
could
also
provide
us
insightful
data
next
legislative
session.
O
F
My
final
question:
if
I
may
I'll
make
it
quick
right.
My
final
question
is
a
substitute
able
to
possibly
be
to
to
also
get
the
district
provided,
insurance
and
pay
for
it
in
that
fashion,
or
is
the
intent
to
be
to
have
the
substitute
look
outside
of
the
district
for
their
for
their
health
insurance.
O
For
the
record
of
Taurus
Ebola
executive
director
for
the
ACLU
of
Nevada,
if
the
districts
are
willing
to
provide
health
insurance,
we
probably
wouldn't
have
been
here
in
the
first
place,
but
we
recognize
that
bargaining
is
in
effect
in
many
many
counties.
Obviously
Statewide
and
nothing
about
this
bill
should
preclude
any
ability
for
any
of
these
units
to
be
able
to
bargain
right.
O
Educator
have
health
insurance,
but
what
the
reality
is
is
that
the
bureaucratic
elements
associated
with
developing
such
a
model
to
be
able
to
perform
to
provide
upwards
of
a
thousand
individuals
Statewide
with
health
insurance
outside
of
this
model,
probably
wouldn't
be
sufficient.
The
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
there
might
be
some
long-term
substitute
Educators,
at
least
amongst
the
ones.
O
We've
talked
to
at
least
some
who
might
be
covered
under
a
spouse's
policy
or
another
individual's
policy,
and
so,
if
that
ends
up
being
the
case,
they
may
not
need
to
be
able
to
do
this.
It's
why
we
included
the
parameters,
specifically
with
respect
to
making
sure
that
the
proof
of
health
insurance
is
provided,
and
it's
not
for
general
purpose,
so
it
fills
the
Gap
and
again
it
continues
to
drive
down
any
potential
notion
of
a
cost
Associated
here,
which
doesn't
really
exist
in
the
first
place.
Thank
you.
K
So,
oh
and
I
do
not
take
my
health
insurance
for
granted
being
self-employed
and
having
catastrophic
health
insurance
because
we
couldn't
afford
anything
else
for
such
a
long
time,
because
we
had
so
many
dang
Independents
that
and
with
a
fifteen
thousand
dollar
deductible
I
I
feel
the
pain.
So
what
I
I'm,
not
a
teacher,
but
do
teachers
regular,
employed,
full-time
district
teachers?
Do
they
have?
Is
there
dependents
already
covered
or
they
have
to
buy
the
coverage
for
their
dependents?
For.
O
That
would
preclude
the
ability
to
maintain
individuals
on
their
insurance.
So
our
understanding
was
that
there
are,
with
with
the
notion
that,
obviously
it
may
vary
depending
on
what's
been
bargained
for
by
each
unit.
K
Just
a
follow-up
clarification
on
what
you
just
said:
if
that's
okay
chair,
so
some
teachers,
their
their
some
dependents,
are
covered
and
then
some
places
they're,
not
it's
not
uniform.
Is
that
what
you
said.
O
For
the
record
of
Taurus
Ebola
executive
director
for
the
ACLU
of
Nevada,
the
parameters
by
which
coverage
is
given
May
differ
District
to
District,
so
I
can
give
an
example
and
speak
plainly.
My
understanding
and
again
this
is
from
conversations.
We've
had
and
there's
folks
on
the
committee,
far
better
equipped
to
be
able
to
address
that
than
I
am
at
this
point.
But
if
individuals
are
together,
for
instance,
they're
married
and
they
have
multiple
dependents,
let's
say
they
have
four
children.
L
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill.
I
really
do
think
it
is
critical.
I
spent
two
years
as
a
long-term
sub
before
I
became
a
teacher
and
I.
Think
many
of
our
teachers
do
that
as
they
are
going
through.
Their
education
programs
and
I
was
in
college
and
I
didn't
realize
that
I
should
have
these
benefits
and
I
just
winged
it.
But
I
don't
know
that.
That's
what
everyone
should
be
doing
to
answer
the
previous
question
in
washa.
L
We
do
have
to
pay
extra
for
our
dependents
I
pay
250
a
month
to
add
my
daughter
on
I,
don't
know
what
everyone
else
is
doing,
but
here's
my
question
and
I
think
you
touched
on
this,
but
I
just
want
to
get
clarity
on
the
record.
So
under
this
proposal
our
substitutes
would
have
coverage
potentially
from
September
through
June.
Is
that
correct?
They
would
not
have
coverage
over
the
summer.
O
For
the
record
at
Target
executive
director
for
the
ACLU
of
Nevada
well,
it
depends
obviously
on
the
date
of
start
and
when
the
qualification
ends
up
kicking
in.
Let's
say
it's
at
the
beginning
of
the
school
year.
They
end
up
hitting
the
30-day
period.
It
would
likely
end
up
taking
effect
the
following
month,
so
October
and
it
would
actually
go
through
obviously
the
period
of
time
for
school,
but
one
thing
it
wouldn't
do
is
the
bill
doesn't
actually
provide
coverage.
It
provides
the
subsidy
to
obtain
coverage.
O
The
initial
consideration
was
required
districts
to
just
provide
health
insurance,
and
then
we
thought
about
the
quality
of
treatment
they've
been
subject
to
already
and
correspond
that
to
the
quality
of
coverage,
they'd
likely
be
provided
if
it
was
left
in
a
discretionary
fashion
right
and
that
becomes
very
challenging
in
that
regard.
So
this
allows
for
those
individuals
again
and
to
obtain
that
coverage
and
for
those
that
we've
spoken
to
that
obtain
other
summer.
Employment
maintain
that
policy
throughout,
so
that
it
continues
to
move
forward
and
be
maintained.
O
Our
Hope
would
be
school,
districts
would
recognize
hey.
This
is
a
great
idea,
we're
stabilizing
our
labor
force
here,
we're
ensuring
that
more
long-term
Subs
are
in
place,
and
so
we
want
to
just
continue
to
maintain
it
right.
That
may
not
end
up
being
the
case,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
why
to
assembly
woman
Anderson's
question
earlier:
we
included
the
Data
Tracking
procedures
and
methodologies
Associated.
So
we
come
back
in
two
years
and
see
what
actually
happened.
We'll
have
an
assessment
of
what
worked
and
what
didn't.
L
Thank
you
for
your
Indulgence
here.
I
just
have
one
more
so
I
really
appreciate
that
and
I
I
am
concerned
about
people
having
consistent
coverage
right,
because
that
can
be
an
issue
with
treatment
and
all
kinds
of
stuff.
So
I
appreciate
that
you
have
thought
about
that.
Our
long-term
Subs.
We
have
a
crisis
in
them
right
now.
I
have
a
long-term
sub,
while
I'm
gone
I'm
on
my
second
long-term
sub,
because
we
have
a
hard
time
getting
them
and
keeping
them
and
and
some
people
have
a
different
sub
every
single
day.
L
N
Thank
you,
assembly,
woman,
the
Roo,
hatch,
I.
Think
you
really
speak
to
the
core
of
the
need
for
this.
We
cannot
expect
folks
to
come
and
fill
the
need
of
dealing
with
our
children
with
all
of
their
vigories
trying
to
function
in
school
districts
that
are
already
short-handed
that
are
already
struggling.
We
we
are.
N
So
if
that
other
job
is
also
a
part-time
job,
because
now
you're
working
a
full-time
you've
got
to
figure
out
another
part-time.
This
is
the
reason
why
we
have
so
much
flux,
and
this
is
the
reason
we
believe
that
this
is
important.
How
do
we
give
some
type
of
encouragement
for
people
to
stick
and
stay,
and
this
I
think
it
brings
a
modicum
of
disrespect
and
dignity
to
the
work
that
they
could
say?
Well,
it
may
not
be
great,
but
I've
got
health,
insurance
and
I'll.
N
Stick
it
out
right
and
and
then
then
it's
up
to
all
of
the
Educators
and
the
schools
to
then
encourage
them
to
go
for
licensure
and
to
then
fill
those
positions
permanently.
I
know,
there's
a
gap
in
there
and
I've
talked
to
many
people
about
that
this
session
about
what
are
we
doing
to
retain
and-
and
this
is
just
a
Band-Aid
on
a
on
a
very
open
gash.
This
is
not
a
solution,
but
it
helps
and
I
think
it
will
help
a
lot.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
madam
cheer,
and
a
couple
of
my
questions
were
already
taken
care
of.
So
that's.
So
that's
really
a
good
thing.
Just
a
question
in
the
research
that
you've
done,
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
Trends
in
other
states.
Other
districts
doing
things
really
kind
of
a
two-part
other
other
states
that
you
know
of
that,
have
put
that
in
and
put
this
in
in
statute
and
then
also
why
70
of
the
days
going
forward.
I
just
want
I'm
just
interested
as
to
how
you
landed
on
that
number.
O
Thank
you
for
the
question
assembly
woman
Taylor
for
the
record
to
Tara
sibula
executive
director
for
the
ACLU
of
Nevada,
with
respect
to
other
states,
really
the
evaluations
we've
done
have
been
Community
to
community
District
to
district,
and
some
of
those
districts
are
enormous
right,
large,
large
school
districts,
but
it
really
hasn't
been
needed
to
be
mandated
at
the
Statewide
level
the
same
because
we
haven't
really
seen
impact
largely.
O
We
haven't
seen
impact
in
the
same
way,
so
those
impacts
have
generally
come
through
in
terms
of
larger
districts
being
able
to
provide
it
now
we're
attempting
to
still
go
through
and
assess
every
smaller
School
District
in
the
country
and
what
that
looks
like.
But
one
thing
we
have
noticed
is
that
the
Reliance
here,
in
terms
of
the
percentage
size
on
long-term
Subs
pursuant
to
this
expanded
definition,
is
pretty
significant
and
when
we
had
a
initially
a
smaller
definition,
A
reduced
size
definition
in
terms
of
what
the
qualifications
would
be.
O
Obviously,
that
number
was
significantly
higher
part
of
the
reason
why
we
picked
the
70
threshold
thereafter
was
because
again
we
spoke
to
business.
We
spoke
to
Industry
leaders
in
multiple
sectors
and
one
of
the
things
they
were
concerned
about
was
what
happens.
If
somebody
only
ends
up,
they
meet
the
qualification
and
then
they
only
end
up
working.
You
know
10
of
the
days
thereafter.
Why
should
they
be
eligible
for
benefits
in
the
same
way?
So
the
reason
why
we
set
the
70
threshold
is
when
we
started
looking
at
Best
Practices
nationally.
O
Most
of
the
models
ended
up,
including
70
work
requirement
when
we
recognized
that
the
they're
not
entitled
to
the
same
PTO
days
in
the
structure
of
days
in
that
manner,
and
so
70
percent
leaves
us
in
a
place
where
they're
still
working
the
overming
majority
of
days.
That
are
there,
but
it's
also
it's
not
also
not
without
any
level
of
parameters.
So
we
viewed
that
compared
to
what
we've
seen
in
other
Realms
as
being
a
happy
medium
that
produces
both
efficiency
but
also
maintain
some
level
of
accountability.
O
So
we
don't
run
into
scenarios
where
there's
arguments
that
you
know
this
was
a
waste
of
money
because
someone
worked
for
30
days
and
then
they
decided
not
to
work
the
days
thereafter.
I've
also
seen
statements
put
out
that
said
that
have
said
that
there's
been
issues
with
the
fact
that
the
only
thing
is
you
know
they
can
work
every
45
days.
We
included
that
70
threshold,
specifically
for
the
purposes
of
precluding
that
argument.
O
So
someone
is
working
30
days
consecutively
and
70
of
the
days
thereafter,
and
they
don't
go
more
than
45
days
without
doing
it
and
all
they're
asking
for
is
a
health
insurance
subsidy.
It
really
does
put
a
moral
check
on
this
body
and
and
also
when
it
Heads
next
door,
hopefully
to
be
able
to
assess
where
we
are
in
terms
of
valuing
our
substitute
Educators
and
how
we're
addressing
this
crisis
moving
forward.
A
Q
You
know
the
45
days
so
now
they're
not
eligible
or
is
it
the
the
sub
telling
them
that
or
in
the
case
of
say
they
become
eligible
under
another
policy
you
know
spouse,
or
maybe
they
get
another
job
that
they
can
get
health
insurance
like.
When
would
they
have
to
tell
you
know
the
school
or
the
district
that
I
have
another
policy.
O
For
the
record
of
Taurus
Ebola
ACLU
of
Nevada
assembly
when
Hardy,
the
parameters
that
we
have
put
in
place
provide
the
construction
for
what's
required,
of
The
Districts,
The
implementation
of
that
policy
and
how
they're
actually
going
to
go
about
conforming
and
complying
with
the
rules.
It's
largely
going
to
be
left
to
the
districts.
Each
district
obviously
functions
different
in
terms
of
employment.
O
Communication
communication
with
the
substitute
Educators
within
their
specific
District
I,
will
give
probably
the
only
time,
maybe
in
my
career,
a
big
shout
out
to
Nye
County
for
promptly
responding
to
my
public
records
request.
Just
giving
me
the
number
29
individuals
or
something
along
those
lines
fell
within
the
category
right.
But
because
of
that,
because
we
recognize
each
district
is
communicating
vastly
differently
with
their
substitute
Educators
it'll
be
up
to
the
districts
to
adopt
those
policies.
O
But
the
main
parameters
that
are
put
in
place
is
when
we
should
we,
hopefully,
when
we
adopt
this
law
into
place
in
this
requirement
into
place,
districts
won't
have
the
ability
to
Simply
say
well,
we
didn't
do
it
because
they've
been
technical
non-compliance
at
that
point.
Their
implementation
of
it,
though,
largely
be
left
up
to
them
in
terms
of
the
specification,
the
tracking
procedures
that
go
into
place.
The
reason
why
we
had
that
included
too
is
it
provides
value
in
terms
of
assessing
what
a
rollout
looks
like
of
this
nature
right.
O
A
Thank
you
for
that,
and
we
will
end
with
simply
Amanda
Silva.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
assemblywoman
for
bringing
this
important
piece
of
legislation
here
in
Mr
hazibola,
for
helping
with
disabilities
addressing
a
significant
Workforce
issue
in
our
education
system
and
just
had
a
two.
You
know
just
questions
with
points
of
clarification,
really
so
one
substitutes
who
are
going
to
be
affected
by
this
this
this
new
policy.
They
have
to
be
working
consecutively
for
30
days.
So,
even
if
there's
a
break
within
the
day,
it
could
hamper
their
eligibility
for
the
subsidy
and
number
two.
M
What
exactly
is
meant
by
available
instructional
days
in
terms
of
you
know,
and
why
that
that
term
is
probably
important
to
this
to
this
Bill.
Thank.
O
You
thank
you
assemblyman
de
Silva,
for
the
question
Atari
sibula
executive
director
of
the
ACLU
of
Nevada.
The
reason
both
questions
kind
of
point
to
the
same
factor
is
what
is
the
qualifying
Criterion?
Why
did
we
use
this
language
available?
Instructional
days
are
currently
utilized
in
a
variety
of
sources
to
assembly
woman
towards
this
point
earlier
we
have
recognized.
There
are
vast
voids
within
NRS
right.
One
of
the
areas
becomes
when
we
look
at
the
definition
of
long-term
substitute,
which
is
referenced
throughout
NRS,
but
there
is
no
NRS
definition
currently
of
long-term
substitute.
O
Think
most
of
us
would
hope
we
magically
run
into
this
scenario
that
all
of
these,
our
teacher
shortage,
has
turned
around
quickly
in
a
matter
of
months,
and
we've
now
dropped
down
to
single
digit
teacher
shortage
in
large
school
district,
and
you
had
somebody
that
was
otherwise
eligible
before,
but
now
those
days
have
not
become
available,
but
two
weeks
later
they
are
available
again
right.
O
Those
days
haven't
been
made
available,
they're
not
available
instructional
days,
and
so
at
that
point
we
don't
want
anyone
to
be
in
a
position
where
they've
started
the
process,
but
their
days
have
not
been
made
available
and
there's
a
break
now.
Do
I
think
that
that's
likely
to
happen,
probably
not
but
I'm
an
optimist,
and
so
we
can
hope
for
the
best
and-
and
we
are
where
we
are
in
that
regard.
But
that's
the
reason
why
that
specific
language
was
utilized.
R
A
Thank
you.
Yes,
we'll
have
you
sit
back
and
we
will
go
to
testimony
and
support
I
think
we
are
someone
in
Las
Vegas
who
would
like
to
testify
and
support.
If
I
saw
you
can
come
up
and
sit
down
in
the
chair,
press,
your
microphone
and
if
you
would
say,
and
spell
your
name
for
committee,
secretaries
and
begin
when
you're
ready.
S
Okay,
hopefully
everyone
can
hear
me
up
there
in
Carson,
Brandon
Summers
for
the
record
I'm,
a
substitute
teacher
for
the
Clark
County
School
District
I
started
subbing
in
2016
and
at
the
time
I
was
finishing
school
while
also
playing
violin
at
corporate
events.
It
was
a
nice
way
to
supplement
my
income
as
a
musician
and
was
fulfilling
to
be
of
service
to
young
people
where
I
lost
my
spot.
S
Oh
and
quite
frankly,
I
wasn't
interested
in
taking
on
a
large
commitment
in
the
education
field
at
the
time,
but
I
remember
getting
that
phone
call
into
in
2018
it
was
it
was
in
August.
I
was
I
was
minding
my
business
and
I.
It
was
a
call
from
the
assistant
principal
at
Kingwood,
Middle
School,
and
they
were
looking
for
a
subject
on
a
vacancy
position
for
orchestra.
I
guess
my
name
had
got
around
from
the
day-to-day
assignments
I
was
covering
anyway.
S
The
story
was
the
orchard
teacher
who
was
in
the
position
previous
in
the
previous
year,
went
back
to
Ohio
and
decided
not
to
come
back.
I
was
busy
at
the
time
with
gigs,
but
I
decided
to
take
them
up
on
it.
What
I
didn't
know
before
I
got
into
the
position
was,
it
was
a
lot
of
work
and
the
pay
was
low.
I
also
wouldn't
have
health
insurance
based
on
the
workload
I
should
have
thrown
the
towel
at
some
point,
but
I'd
grown
an
attachment
to
the
kids.
S
S
As
a
result
of
the
pandemic,
I
lost
all
my
work
as
a
freelance
musician,
in
an
instant
and
after
being
unemployed
for
six
months,
I
took
on
a
year-long
commitment
for
CCSD
once
again
in
a
long-term
position.
I
had
all
the
duties
responsibilities,
the
licensed
teacher,
but
was
barely
able
to
pay.
My
rent
and
all
I
could
do
was
pray.
I
didn't
get
sick
since
I
didn't
have
employer-sponsored
health
insurance.
S
Being
a
long-term
sub
is
not
a
part-time
position.
It's
not
a
babysitting
job
and
the
work
day
does
not
end
at
3
pm.
School
districts
are
actively
engaging
in
wage
theft
by
underpaying,
long-term
subs,
and
it
is
shameful
that
CCSD
is
okay
with
exploiting
this
part
of
their
Workforce
mind
you,
we
are
the
only
people
keeping
schools
from
completely
falling
apart
in
light
of
the
national
and
Global
teacher
shortage.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else
in
Las,
Vegas,
I
I
that
wishing
to
testify
in
sport
I
see
someone
back
there,
but
I
don't
see
you
coming
forward
so
we'll
come
to
Carson
City,
please
go
ahead
when
ready.
T
Hi,
my
name
is
Caitlin
Evans
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Washoe
Education
Association,
and
we
represent
the
certified
Professionals
in
the
Washoe
County
School
District
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
assembly
women's
Summers
Armstrong
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
also
the
ACLU
of
Nevada.
For
championing
these
efforts,
a
substitutes
play
a
vital
role
in
the
education
ecosystem.
T
We
here
in
Washoe
County
are
in
Washoe
County.
We
have
been
pushing
and
advocating
tremendously
with
us
with
our
superintendent
in
our
school
district,
to
provide
better
supports
for
our
substitute
teachers
and
recently
had
increases
to
subpay
made,
and
even
though,
and
that's
because,
even
though
they
don't
fall
within
our
bargaining
unit,
they
play
a
significant
role
in
supporting
the
students
in
our
schools
and
they
also
play
a
significant
role
in
supporting
the
current
Educators
that
we
do
have
in
this
in
the
classroom.
T
T
When
we
talked
about
how
to
fund
this
and
I
know,
it's
already
been
discussed
around
accrued
Savings
in
Washoe
County,
we
were
very
aggressive
going
after
those
accrued
savings
and
we're
able
to
use
those
funds
to
provide
additional
compensation
for
educators
over
a
certain
caseload.
What's
great
is
this
bill
would
not
even
impact
those
efforts
because
we
were
using
the
salary
savings
portion.
There
is
still
the
benefits.
The
insurance
and
benefits
cost
that
the
districts
are
still
saving
due
to
having
so
many
unfilled
positions.
T
So
the
money
is
there
to
to
fund
these
efforts
and,
and
then
finally,
if
we
think
about
when
you
talk
to
a
retired
teacher-
and
they
play
again
an
extremely
important
role,
one
of
the
biggest
issues
that
comes
up
with
them
when
they
retire
is
their
ability
to
afford
insurance,
and
so
we
have
a
number
of
Highly
qualified
retired
teachers
in
our
school
districts.
Who
would
come
back
and
in
providing
this?
These
supports
for
insurance
would
Al
address
one
of
the
major
issues
that
comes
up
when
you
talk
to
a
retirees.
H
Okay,
good
afternoon
Chris
daily
Nevada,
State,
Education
Association
in
support
of
ab282
as
well.
We
submitted
comments.
I
won't
read
them,
but
I
do
want
to
mention
that
there
is
a
bit
of
a
companion
bill
over
on
the
Senate
side,
SB
434,
which
would
make
long-term
substitutes
also
eligible
for
retirement
benefits.
We
support
that
bill
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
U
Okay
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
Kathleen
Celine
s-e-l-I-n-e
and
I'm,
testifying
on
behalf
of
myself
I'm,
a
substitute
teacher,
Churchill,
County,
School,
District
I
personally,
don't
like
to
do
long-term
jobs.
I
have
in
the
past,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
the
workload
is
the
same
as
what
a
teacher
would
do
as
far
as
lesson
plans,
grading
talking
to
parents
going
to
meetings.
All
of
that,
but
you
get
none
of
the
benefits.
U
No
vacation
pay,
no
purrs,
nothing
so
I
think
it
would
help
a
lot
to
have
more
people
willing
to
do
long
term
if
they
have
at
least
health
insurance.
Normally
I
would
not
be
in
favor
of
ever
spending
more
money,
I
like
to
spend
less
but
I.
Think
in
this
case
it
would
be
helpful.
There's
such
a
shortage
of
substitutes
in
all
the
school
districts
I
think
it
would
it's
a
small
investment
to
make
to
make
sure
that
these
classes
are
covered.
That's
it.
A
V
W
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Terry
Shuman
I,
think
q
m,
a
n
and
I
am
here
in
favor
of
the
amendment
2ab
282
I
came
into
the
Clark
County
School
District.
As
a
substitute
for
two
years.
We
were
not
afforded
in
any
type
of
benefit,
not
any
sick
leave,
vacation
or
Insurance.
Within
two
years,
CCSD
formed
the
position
of
PST
permanent
substitute
teacher
100
substitutes,
including
myself,
were
now
afforded
sick
leave,
staycation
and
insurance.
This
program
ended
up
being
eliminated
after
two
years.
W
Two
years
ago,
I
was
got
into
a
classroom
with
a
long-term
sub.
This
substitute
teacher
was
the
curb,
and
unfortunately,
during
the
pandemic,
she
and
her
husband
both
came
down
with
Kobe
nobody
needed
Insurance
more
than
they
did.
W
X
Yes
good
afternoon,
this
is
Anna
binder
a-n-n-a-b-I-n-d-e-r
I'm,
calling
in
support
of
this
bill
and
I
I
do
very
much
think
the
ACLU
for
spearheading
this
and
I
appreciate
all
of
the
questions
in
the
discussion.
X
I
am
just
a
mom,
but
I
appreciate
every
single
person
who
is
willing
to
walk
into
one
of
our
schools
and
support
our
children,
and
this
is
absolutely
a
way
to
let
these
long-term
Subs
know
that
we
do
value
them
and
I
think
it
says
a
lot
about
our
district,
that
the
ACLU
has
spearheaded
this
and
not
the
districts
and
districts
themselves,
but
regardless
it's
very
much
appreciated
and
I,
hopefully,
look
forward
to
seeing
this
come
to
fruition
for
the
benefit
of
everybody.
Thank
you.
A
A
Ccsd,
are
you
coming
up?
No,
no,
no
I!
Actually,
that's
good,
because
I
was
going
to
call
you
up,
because
we
just
received
the
document
that
you
sent
us
about
your
current
policy
and
I
think.
Actually
we
might
have
a
few
questions
on
that.
So,
if
you,
why
don't
you
start
out
by
telling
us
what
the
document
was?
So
it's
clear,
I
think
members
are
just
taking
a
look
at
it
right
now,
but
suffice
it
to
say
it
looks
like
CCSD
does
have
a
policy
offering
health
care
for
long-term
Subs.
A
Y
Patricia
had
a
director
of
government
relations
for
Clark
County,
School,
District
I
will
do
my
best
to
explain
and
get
into
the
details
as
much
as
I
can
and
if
there
are
questions
that
I
can't
answer
right
now,
I'm
happy
to
follow
up.
So
the
document
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
is
a
essentially
it's
a
letter
that
was
sent
to
All
eligible
substitutes
and
temporary
employees
in
December
of
last
year.
Y
This
went
out
to
610
individuals
for
their
to
to
be
able
to
enroll
in
health
insurance,
and
so
the
it
lays
out
a
couple
of
things
that
lays
out
how
they
can
go
about
with
the
Open
Enrollment,
as
well
as
their
sort
of
summary
of
benefits.
That
speaks
to
sort
of
what
all
is
covered,
and
let
me
think
about
that
too
much
there.
It
is
what
all
is
covered
and
what
their
co-pays
might
be,
depending
upon
the
situation
as
well
as
pay
period
deductions.
Y
So
I
just
wanted
you
guys
to
see
that
and
and
know
that
that
is
something
that
occurs
and
the
folks
that
are
eligible
for
that.
So
this
is
a
little
complicated,
but
essentially
excuse
me
so
substitute
teachers
and
temporary
employees
who
work
an
average
of
29
and
a
half
hours
per
week
over
the
course
of
a
year
are
eligible
to
enroll.
In
this
plan,
the
CCSD
this
HMO
plan
in
the
following
calendar
year
and.
Y
So,
throughout
that
calendar
year,
sorry
I'm,
looking
at
multiple
things
right
now,
so
you're
able
to
enroll
through
the
Open
Enrollment
or
if
you
have
write
like
an
eligible
major
life
event,
you
have
a
baby
or
something
to
that
effect,
and
then
the
amount
of
hours
that
you
work
throughout
that
year
that
you
are
eligible
or
are
receiving
those
benefits.
Y
It
doesn't
matter
sort
of
what
hours
you
work
or
if
you
continue
to
meet
that
29
and
a
half
hour
per
week.
Threshold
you'll
continue
to
be
covered,
but
the
subsequent
year
in
order
to
continue
coverage
on
that
third
year.
You
would
need
to
continue
to
maintain
in
that
previous
year
that
29
and
a
half
hours
per
week
throughout
the
entire
year.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
somewhere
that
that
seems
like
a
lot
right
every
week,
I
mean
right,
I
mean
I'm
just
guessing,
but
okay,
so
29
rounds
up
to
30
has
to
be.
You
have
to
be
it's
for
next
year,
so
if
I'm
doing
it,
I
have
to
do
it
this
year,
then
I
find
out.
Is
this
something
that
that
people
are
aware
of,
because
I
know
that
I've
got
emails
about
this
and
nobody's
saying
can't
wait
till
next
year,
where
I'm
gonna,
where
I'm
gonna
receive
these
benefits
I
mean?
Are
they
do
they
know
that?
Y
Patricia
had
a
director
of
government
relations
for
Clark,
County,
School,
District
I,
don't
know
the
specifics
on
how
that
information
gets
relayed
to
folks
that
are
substitutes
or
who
are
on
a
pathway
forward.
What
I
do
know
is
on
an
annual
basis.
We
look
back
to
look
at
all
substitute
and
temporary
employees
to
see
who
met
that
eligibility
and
then
reach
out
to
them
and
give
them
the
opportunity
to
enroll
and
I
will
say
out
of
the
610
folks
that
were
eligible
and
received
the
information.
A
Okay
and
then
on
the
slide,
I
think
the
slide
had
an
indication
that
this
would
cover
over
3
000,
so
currently
you're
offering
this
to
600
and
some
odd
57
are
taking
it
is
it
also?
Is
it
the
aggregated
of
of
29.5?
So
if
I,
if
I
work,
almost
every,
you
know
week
that
I'm
eligible
but
I,
get
coveted
and
I'm
out
for
two
weeks
is
that
is
it?
Is
it
an
average
or?
How
is
that
figured.
Y
So
I
believe
that
it's
29.5
over
a
37
week
period
and
let's
looking
at
August
to
August
and
that
has
to
be
it-
has
to
be
maintained
in
order
to
meet
that
eligibility.
Y
A
F
And
it
might
be
similar,
so
how
many?
How
many
hours
are
in
a
day
that
are
credited
to
the
substitutes,
because
do
they
also
get
credited
for
a
lunchtime
and
or
if
they,
if
they
were
to
work
a
full
day?
I
know
in
high
school
many
times,
there's
a
prep,
but
many
times
those
same
Subs
then
get
pulled
over
so
is:
do
they
also
get
credited
for
that
lunch
hour
or
or
other
time
frame.
Y
Patricia
Haddad
I
do
not
want
to
give
you
the
wrong
information,
but
I
will
find
out
and
get
back
to
you.
K
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
answering
our
questions,
so
yeah
I'm,
just
looking
at
this
and
I
gotta,
say
those
are
pretty
nice
benefits
for
the
price
right.
There
explain
to
me
again
because
I
was
looking
and
I
apologize.
You
might
have
said
this
that
it
was
dated
that
this
just
is
a
current
thing
that
has
started
at
CCSD.
It's
not
it's
a
December
2022
like
what's
the
history.
K
Y
That
thank
you,
Patricia
added,
so
how
long
this
particular
model
has
been
in
place.
I
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
I
will
find
out,
and
then
this
letter
is
from
December
of
2022,
and
this
is
what
specifically
went
out
to
the
folks
that
were
eligible.
Y
And
so
that
was
the
letter
that
went
out
to
folks
that
were
eligible
in
December
of
this
past
year
for
benefits
to
kick
in
in
January
and
then
the
second
part
of
your
question
was
oh
29.5,
30
hours
per
week.
A
L
Thank
you
chair,
so
yeah,
I,
I
think
I
definitely
have
some
concerns.
I
think
this
is
actually
making
the
case
for
why
we
might
need
this
bill
so
I'm
concerned
one
there's
610
eligible
and
only
57
signed
up
I'm
wondering
if
there's
some
communication
issues,
so
I'd
love
some
follow-up
on
how
that
information
is
getting
out.
L
Secondly,
can
you
just
speak
to
how
often
you
have
a
sub
that
comes
back
because
I
know
a
lot
of
times,
we'll
have
a
sub
that's
with
us
a
year,
and
then
our
goal
is
for
them
the
next
year
to
be
an
actual
teacher
for
them
to
have
to
work
an
entire
year
before
they
qualify
for
benefits
seems
pretty
extreme
even
compared
to
other
Industries.
So
if
you
can
just
speak
to
why
a
full
year
is
required
instead
of
the
month
that
most
other
Industries
are
requiring.
Y
Y
So
the
the
rationale
and
the
back
story
for
for
a
year
and
the
12-month
look
back
I
would
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
specifically
12
months
and
and
why
that
policy
is
but
was
put
into
place
and
I
will
be
sure
to
get
back
to
you
with
information
on
the
initial
communication,
as
well
as
who
continues
coverage
out
of
those
folks
that
that
opt
into
it
year
over
year.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
I
think
you're
going
to
be
off
the
hot
seat
for
a
minute.
Would
you
would
you
guys
like
to
start
test
money?
You
can
you
can
go?
Second,
if
you
want.
Y
To
say,
worked
with
atar
on
education
policy
work
in
another
life
and
not
the
person
that
I
want
to
be
toe-to-toe
against
in
any
sort
of
policy
matter.
But
you
know
I
mean
here's.
The
thing
is
we
would
love
to
support
this
bill.
Obviously,
and
of
course,
substitutes
are
an
integral
integral
part
of
the
district's
day-to-day
operations
and
supportive,
kids
and
I.
Y
Do
want
to
note
that
I
appreciate
the
attention
to
detail
and
the
thoughtful
Nuance
in
in
the
amendment,
but
unfortunately,
as
it's
currently
written,
regretfully
in
opposition
to
to
do
to
the
administrative
challenges
that
it
presents,
I
won't
go
into
the
detail
rehash
some
of
these
pieces,
but
of
course,
as
as
noted,
substitute
teachers
and
temporary
employees
who
do
meet
that
threshold
are
eligible
to
enroll
in
that
in
that
plan
and
the
reason
that
I
sent.
That
was
because
there
were
some
some
comments
made
about.
No.
Y
That
I
had
sent
that
during
the
committee
meeting
was
because
there
had
been
some
comments
about
not
there
being
no
health
insurance
available
and
I
just
wanted
to
know
that
there
is.
There
is
indeed
recognizing
that
the
limitations
that
that
exist
on
it
so
I
will
also
add
you
know
in
our
initial
reading
of
the
bdr.
Y
We
thought
that
it
was
a
450.
The
the
450
subsidy
would
only
apply
to
the
substitute,
however,
understanding
that
that's
actually
a
a
four-fold
increase
from
our
initial
estimate,
based
on
the
fact
that
it
would
be
450
times
the
substitute
plus
up
to
three
dependents,
that's
more
than
double
the
most
expensive
contribution
for
a
full-time
employee.
Y
In
addition
to
that,
moving
from
a
12-month
look
back
to
a
30-day
look
back
as
outlined
in
the
bill
would
require
an
immense
amount
of
additional
Staffing
and
management
resources
to
keep
up
with
the
month
to
month.
Changes
in
enrollment
eligibility
continue
to
be
heartened
by
legislation
to
support
teacher
pipeline
Pathways
to
facilitate
that
process
and
lessen
Financial
barriers
to
becoming
a
full-time
licensed
educator
and,
of
course,
want
to
continue
to
support
our
substitute
teachers.
Y
I
will
also
just
note
on
the
vacancy
dollars,
so
that's
those
sit
at
the
for
Clark,
County
and
and
specifically
based
on
ab469,
based
on
the
rear
right.
So
those
School
budgets
and
those
vacancy
dollars
sit
at
the
school
level.
Y
So
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
offset
those
costs
at
the
district
level
or
at
the
central
office
level
to
to
cover
the
subsidy.
So
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
as
well,
and
thank
you
so
much.
A
And
I
know
you
guys
have
been
sitting
there
a
long
time,
but
I
do
have
to
give
my
members
and
the
audience
a
little
lay
of
the
land.
We
are
five
minutes
from
four
o'clock
where
we
are
losing
a
big
number
of
we're
losing
I,
think
four
members
of
the
committee
and
the
bill
presenter
and
they're
leaving
we're
not
losing
them.
No,
we
we
know,
we
know
where
they're
at
yeah.
A
Okay,
so
this
is
what
we're
gonna.
Do
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
go
I,
think
it's
just
you
two
that
are
that
are
and
then,
as
soon
as
I
can
are
you,
okay
with
you?
If
you
leave
it's
hard
to
make
any
closing
statements?
Okay,
so
after
this
bill
you
guys
we're
gonna,
have
to
recess
and
come
back.
I
know
you
don't
well
and
we
need
to
have
a
discussion
if
we,
because
we
do
have
the
permission
to
work
session
this
bill
if
we
have
the
votes.
So
that's
what's
gonna,
that's
what's
happening.
A
R
You
so
much
Madam
chair,
I'll,
talk
very
quickly.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
the
assembly
woman
for
meeting
with
me.
She
was
so
gracious
and
I
really
appreciated
that.
As
we
talked
about
this
bill,
there
are
a
couple
of
concerns.
Obviously
I
mean
I,
think
all
of
us,
who've
taught
we've
been.
We
probably
started
out
as
substitute
teachers,
and
that
is
not
an
easy
job,
so
we
certainly
appreciate
substitute
teachers
and
they
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
work.
There's
no
question
about
that.
R
The
concerns
that
the
folks
I
work
with
and
I
do
represent
Nevada
Association
of
school
superintendents,
section
one
sub
three,
where
it
talks
about
the
additional
three
people
that
can
read,
read
or
receive
the
subsidy.
That
is
something
that
teachers
permanent
teachers
really
don't
have.
They
can
buy
insurance
for
their
attendance,
but
it
comes
out
of
their
own
pocket.
They
don't
get
any
subsidy
for
that.
R
Z
Z
We
depend
on
our
subs,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
funding
at
the
Washington
County
School
District,
and
we
are
working
very,
very
hard
to
divide
up
that
number
to
make
sure
our
staff
and
our
teachers
get
adequate
salaries
to
make
sure
we
have
appropriate
Mental,
Health,
Services
and
wraparound
services.
So
a
lot
of
burden
is
put
on
school
districts
to
make
sure
that
we're
allocating
our
funding
appropriately.
Z
We
we
do
consider
this.
Unfortunately,
an
unfunded
mandate
as
much
as
we
depend
on
our
subs
I
will
also
just
quickly
make
a
note
about
the
fiscal
note.
So
our
fiscal
note
was
also
based
on
the
idea
that
it
would
be
450
per
substitute
teacher,
not
including
those
dependents.
So
I
do
think
our
fiscal
note
is
significantly
higher
than
what
is
stated
in
the
represented
fiscal
note.
Z
A
V
A
O
For
the
record
of
Taurus
executive
director
for
the
ACLU
of
Nevada,
as
predicted
I
knew
I
was
going
to
hear
my
two
favorite
words.
Unfunded
mandate
and
I
knew
as
I
mentioned.
Accrued
savings
right
and
budgeted
for
expenses
are
the
retort
to
that.
These
are
not
unfunded
mandates.
You
funded
them
time
and
time
again
they
haven't
fill
the
positions.
I
appreciate
you
know,
CCSD
I
was
aware
of
part
of
this
policy.
O
We
actually
included
it
as
an
exhibit
and
I
think
to
assemblywoman
LaRue
hatches
point
the
fact
that
57
individuals
got
on
a
plan
and
we
have
how
many
thousands
of
substitutes
within
a
district
really
shows
a
poor
recruitment
strategy.
Imagine
a
recruitment
strategy
where
you
got
to
work
for
a
year
to
get
health
insurance.
You
can
go
to
any
retail
operation
right
now
and
get
it
after
30
days.
O
You
go
to
any
business
and
get
it
after
30
days
to
work
for
a
year
and
determine
eligibility
a
year
later
is
pretty
jarring
I
mean
57
people
probably
enrolled
Because
by
the
time
they're
done
with
that
we
don't
have
access
to
that
information.
Obviously,
that's
going
to
be
protected
through
HIPAA,
but
probably
about
a
year
later,
I'd.
Imagine
that
might
be
the
last
batch
of
folks
left
right.
O
That
might
be
all
you
have
left
and
if
we
continue
to
do
this
thousands
of
individuals
at
a
time
we're
going
to
have
no
substitute
teachers
left
so
I
appreciate
the
the
comments
and
and
obviously
I
recognize.
You
know
it
puts
folks
in
a
tough
spot,
because
this
is
a
challenging
space
to
be
in,
and
so
very
much
appreciate
that.
But
we
need.
We
really
need
to
resolve
this
now.
It
can't
be
something
that's
kicked
over
and
even
if
we
get
sent
to
ways
and
means
it's
going
to
be
the
same
argument
back.
O
If
anybody
can
justify
the
fact
that
we're
saving
upwards
between
thirty
thousand
dollars
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
by
filling
these
gaps
with
long-term
subs
and
not
treating
them
with
basic
dignity
and
decency,
I'd
be
happy
to
listen
to
it,
but
I,
don't
think
the
math
or
the
data
shows
that
that's
actually
the
case.
So
we
appreciate
this
committee's
time.
I
do
hope.
You
work
session
this.
O
N
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
We
appreciate
your
time
here.
I
just
want
to
address
one
thing:
the
the
comment
that
this
will
take
additional
staff
to
track.
This
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
I
call
that
a
little
bit
disingenuous.
There
is
a
tracking
software
already
in
place.
They
know
how
many
days
substitutes
have
taught.
They
know
how
many
openings
are
available.
N
A
Is
that
a
possibility,
one
minute
recess?
Everybody
come
over
here.
A
Okay,
we're
back
we're
back.
We,
okay
members,
as
you
know,
per
assembly
standing
rolled
57,
section,
four,
there's
a
waiting
period
that
prohibits
a
committee
from
taking
action
on
a
measure
within
the
24
hours.
Immediately
after
the
hearing,
we
have
received
permission
from
speaker
Yeager
to
waive
that
24-hour
rule
as
such
I
will
now
entertain.
Well,
you
are
you,
do
you
say
it
now?
D
Thank
you,
chair
Alex,
straussdov
committee
policy.
Analyst
for
the
record.
D
My
understanding
is
that
the
committee
is
considering
the
bill
with
the
proposed
amendment
with
the
following
change:
replacing
long
long-term
substitute
with
false
full-term
full-time
substitute,
explaining
that
a
school
district
or
School
may
not
prevent
any
substitute
teacher
from
working
with
from
from
working
the
necessary
number
of
days
to
qualify
for
a
subsidy
specified
within
Amendment
four
for
the
purposes
of
precluding
his
or
her
ability
to
qualify
for
that
subsidy,
and
this
will
be
inclusive
of
reassigning
the
teachers
duties
to
another
position
within
the
school,
for
example,
paraphrofessionals
or
teachers,
aides
and
taking
out
the
dependence
section
of
the
bill.
G
A
She
said
she
thinks
she
said
that
I'm
not
sure
you
did
did
you,
okay,
that
is
the
intent.
Yes,
we're,
including
that
as
well
any
other
questions.
Okay
with
that
I
would
take
a
motion
to
amend
a
new
pass
assembly
when
Anderson
has
made.
The
motion.
Do
I
have
a
second
second
from
Vice,
chair,
Taylor,
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
aye
opposed,
nay,
raise
your
hand.
A
We've
got
two
Nays
Hanson
and
Hardy
without
motion
carries
congratulations.
I
will
assign
that
to
you
and
that
was
Summers
on
strong
you,
okay,
thank
you,
members
who
have
to
skedaddle
out
of
here.
We
are
going
to
go
to
our
boy.
You
just
did
not
want
to
come
back,
I
appreciate
it.
Okay.
So
now
we
will
move
on
to
our
final
agenda
item,
which
is
public
comment.
A
As
a
reminder,
members
of
the
public
can
provide
public
comment
in
person
or
telephonically
and
can
submit
public
comment
up
to
24
hours
after
the
meeting.
Each
person
is
given
two
minutes
for
the
record.
Please
remember
to
say,
and
spell
your
name
with
that.
Is
there
anybody
wishing
to
make
public
comment
here
in
Carson
City.
A
Anyone
in
Las
Vegas
behind
the
poll,
anyone
on
the
phone
wishing
to
make
public
comment.
X
Good
afternoon,
Anna
binder
again
for
the
record
I
just
really
wanted
to
again
say
thanks
and
show
as
much
appreciation
as
I
could
and
and
thank
this
committee
for
always
trying
to
do
what's
absolutely
right
as
best
as
you
guys
can
find
it.
So
thank
you
have
a
wonderful
evening.
A
Okay,
so
we
currently
have
an
agenda
posted
for
our
meeting
tomorrow
at
the
call
of
the
chair.
So
if
there's
any
final
business
that
the
committee
needs
to
conduct
on
Deadline
day,
we
do
have
that
agenda
at
time
at
this
time
that
it's
not
my
intention
to
have
the
committee
meet,
but
there's
possibility
we
will
so
an
agenda
has
been
posted.
I'll
make
sure
that
I
keep
members
informed
of
our
plans.
I.
Don't
it's
not
intended
to
surprise
anyone?
So
that
concludes
our
meeting
for
today,
and
this
meeting
is
adjourned.