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From YouTube: 12/17/2020 - Committee on Industrial Programs
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A
Good
afternoon,
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
our
fifth
committee
meeting
on
industrial
programs
and
for
members
and
staff.
I'd
like
to
please
remind
you
all
to
mute
your
microphone,
not
speaking,
and
to
unmute
your
microphone
before
you
start
speaking,
given
the
virtual
nature
of
this
meeting
is
important
for
each
committee
member
and
the
presenters
to
clearly
state
their
name
each
time
they
speak
for
the
record.
A
I
know
it's
repetitive,
but
we
really
need
you,
especially
during
this
virtual
time,
to
clearly
speak
and
spell
your
name
each
time
before
you
speak
and
members
also,
if
you'll,
please
wave
your
hand
or
just
ask
for
my
attention,
if
I
am
not
looking
up
at
the
screen
to
speak,
that
is
just
fine
or
you
can
always
just
send
me
an
instant
message
and
say:
hey.
I
want
to
talk.
A
Elections
have
consequences,
and
years
ago
the
citizens
of
the
state
of
nevada
decided
to
give
us
term
limits,
and
because
of
that,
one
of
the
members
on
our
committee
who's
been
with
us
for
the
first
four
meetings.
Senator
parks
is
no
longer
with
us.
We
wish
him
well
in
his
retirement
from
his
legislative
life,
but
I'm
sure
we'll
see
him
often,
but
I
am
so
happy
to
welcome
to
this
committee.
Senator
dennis
you
would.
This
will
be
your
first
and
last
meeting
for
this
interim
committee.
A
B
A
A
A
967-549-3795
and
then
press
pound
prompted
for
the
id
for
participant
id
just
press
the
pound
key.
You
will
be
allowed
to
enter
the
meeting
with
your
comments.
Comments
can
also
be
submitted
through
email
through
industrial
at
lcb.state.nv.us,
or
you
can
send
your
comments
to
us
via
the
mail
and
that
should
be
addressed
to
fiscal
analyst.
Division,
401,
south
carson
street
carson
city,
nevada,
89701.
A
Perfect,
so
with
that,
we
will
end
the
public
comment
for
this
section.
There
will
be
another
at
the
end
of
the
members.
We
are
starting
just
a
little
bit
later
today
than
we
have
planned
and
anticipated,
and
there
are
a
few
members
that
have
a
hard
stop
with
other
appointments
that
I
have
to
get
to.
So
I
will
ask
that
we'd
be
very
thorough
in
our
comments
and
discussions
on
everything
on
our
agenda
for
today,
but
keep
it
as
short
as
possible
and
respect
for
everyone's
time.
C
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair
senator
roy
chia
here
and
it's
the
piece
pertaining
to
the
horses
held
at
the
prison
ranch
and
in
our
booklet.
It's
on
page
nine,
but
it's
senator
gregory
has
stated
the
prison
ranch
is
looking,
should
be
looking
at
wrapping
up
the
count
of
wild
horses
at
the
end
of
that.
It
says
which
the
path
forward
for
the
management
of
the
blm's
wild
horses,
which,
if
passed,
would
be
funded
at
a
federal
level,
would,
and
it
says,
reduce
actually
that
would
increase
the
number
of
wild
horses
available.
C
C
B
That
motion
this
is
alan
pulis.
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
just
so
the
the
record's
clear,
I'm
just
going
to
repeat
the
revisions
that
are
part
of
the
motion
to
make
sure
that
we
have
them
correctly
before
I
go
through
the
roll
call,
and
that
was
on
page
nine
of
the
minutes.
Page
11
of
the
packet.
B
B
B
A
D
A
You're
moving
extremely
fast,
sir,
we
appreciate
that
it's
good
to
see
you
and
I
will
let
you
know
you
probably
were
not
on
earlier.
When
I
made
the
statement,
there
are
a
number
of
members
that
are
joining
us
today
that
have
other
obligations.
It
would
have
to
have
a
hard
stop
no
later
than
3
30..
So
I'll
ask
that
we'd
be
thorough
in
our
discussion,
but
be
kind
of
quick
as
well,
especially
since
we've
got
a
late
start.
D
The
mana
chair
deputy
director
klinger,
I
apologize
for
the
delay.
I
got
tied
up
with
the
director
in
the
kova
task
force
meeting
a
lot
of
public
comment,
a
lot
of
answers
I
had
to
come
up
with
so
again
I
apologize
director
daniels
is
still
in
the
meeting
as
we
speak.
We
started
since
10
this
morning.
D
Therefore,
if
you're
ready,
we
can
move
forward
with
the
aging
schedule.
I
can
have
jackie
cooper,
who
is
our
acting
aso
and
also,
if
you
can
see
clear
behind
me
against
the
wall
there
we
have
our
new
aso
who
just
started
on
monday,
mr
jeffrey,
you
say
he
will
be
taking
the
place
of
miss
diane
dastal,
who
retired
so
he's
on
board
this
week.
It
was
a
long
process
getting
him
filled
with
his
budget
shortfall
and
jtfs
justification
filled
positions.
D
So
again,
I've
got
mr
giuseppe,
who
is
learning,
and
I
brought
him
in
also
have
here,
mr
ed
mason,
who
is
a
correctional
officer
at
northern
vacation
center,
but
he's
sitting
in
for
our
pi
supervisor
2
at
nncc,
who
has
since
left
us.
It's
been
transferred
over
to
division
of
forestry,
so
I
have
them
in
attendance
with
me
in
my
office
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
jackie,
so
we
can
get
keep
it
moving
then.
Thank
you
so.
D
D
E
E
E
E
E
D
For
the
record,
madam
chair
is
deputy
director
coinga
of
the
outstanding
guys.
We
see
majority
of
this
since
we've
pull
this
report
and
look
at
the
report
majority
of
these
all
these
debts
that
you
see,
with
the
exception
of
the
vehicles
from
southern
desert,
those
are
new
invoices
coming
out
for
vehicles
with
added
repairs.
D
We
still
have
the
vehicles
in
possession
and
work
with
them
to
continue
to
make
those
payments
part
of
their
vehicle
being
and
paid
for
upon
completion,
but
everything
else
that's
on
this
agent
report
has
been
paid
for
looking
going
forward
from
the
last
report
to
current,
I
can
take
I'm
open
for
any
questions.
If
anyone
has.
A
Okay,
here
we
go,
then
we
will
move
on
to
item
number
five
on
our
agenda,
which
is
a
review
of
the
number
of
inmates
that
have
worked
july,
2017
through
september
of
2020
and
I'll.
Ask
the
department
to
review
that
the
number
of
the
inmates-
and
you
were
just
in
that
covet
meeting
with
the
governor's
office
if
you'll
also
let
us
know
how
covet
has
impacted
the
number
of
inmates
that
have
been
able
to
work.
D
Well,
the
record
deputy
director
coinga
on
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
covet
pandemic.
It
has
affected
president
increase,
but
has
not
impacted,
impacted
us
at
as
as
bad
as
I
expected.
We
had
some
shutdowns
at
high
density
prison,
approximately
two
weeks,
probably
a
month
apart
because
of
inmates
coming
up
positive
with
a
work
crew
at
high
density
prison
with
dmv
park,
sorting
in
the
hangar
soaring
up
sorting
operation.
They
just
start
opened
up
again
yesterday
over
at
high
desert
a
southern
desert.
D
We
are,
they
just
got
workers
again.
Yesterday
we
brought
all
wire
in
start
off
with
five
workers
up
to
20
and
as
soon
as
we
were
going
in
for
about
two
weeks,
we
just
shut
it
down
going
back.
Two
weeks
from
yesterday,
we
just
brought
the
inmates
back.
Northern
nevada
correctional
center
has
impacted
us
all
our
operations,
which
is
one
of
our
biggest
operations,
furniture,
mattress
metal,
print
and
embroidery.
D
B
D
And
the
attending
physician
at
nncc
is
looking
at
those.
It's
been
the
time
span
of
required
by
cdc
in
our
covenant
protocol
they're,
looking
to
see
them.
It's
been
10
days
if
they've
been
symptom-free
asymptomatic
for
72
hours,
with
an
attendee
period
and
they're
looking
to
clear
them
and
bring
them
back
to
work,
they
will
be
in
ppe
along
the
staff
as
it
is
enforced
and
we
are
required
to
have
ppe's
staff.
Members
were
in
95s
lovelock
correctional
center.
They
are
still
in
operation.
D
D
D
See
an
impact
at
northern
nevada
correctional
center.
We
have
reached
out
to
our
customers,
private
entities
and
governments,
and
advising
of
that
so
hopefully
we'll
be
back
in
operation
monday.
E
B
E
Excuse
me
in
year
19
we
had
a
total
of
530
inmates
working
which
is
3.9
percent
of
our
total
population
of
13
699.
E
D
Brother
record
deputy
director
quinn
again
to
share
the
committee
I
forgot
to
mention
also
erickson
trusts.
We
have
a
contract
with
up
in
the
north.
They
have
inmate
workers
from
stuart
conservation
camp
which
we
had
that
contract
in
over
a
year
now,
almost
two
years,
building
wooden
trusses
in
reno.
That
operation
has
been
shut
down
since
march,
as
we
restricted
all
non-mdlc
and
inmate
workers
going
out
in
community
such
as
buildings
and
grounds,
so
that
operation
has
shut
down.
D
C
B
And-
and
it's
been
a
while,
since
I
served
on
this
committee,
can
you
remind
me
what
what
limits
our
ability
to
increase
that
percentage
of
offender
population?
Is
it
just
not
enough
staff
or
not
enough
offenders
that
they
qualify
to
do
that
kind
of
a
program
for.
D
The
record
deputy
director
what
limits
this
is
basically
the
classification
process
within
the
facility,
depending
on
the
classification
of
the
security
level
of
the
facility
that
re,
that
kind
of
holds
us
back
on
how
many
inmates
are
allowed
to
go
work
out
in
the
community.
We
have
a
camp
like
stewart
camp,
for
example,
which
I'm
working
on.
We
have.
D
That
are
sitting
over
the
camp
that
have
medical
holds
but
they're
at
a
minimum
custody,
so
they're
going
to
get
their
time
on
their
sentence,
but
we're
looking
at
trying
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
how
we
can
move
those
inmates
somewhere
where
they
have
to
be
close
as
a
medical.
When
they
have
a
medical
hole,
they
have
to
be
close
to
medical
care,
but
that
is
a
working
camp
and
we're
trying
to
change
that.
B
D
Go
ahead
and
mitigate
and
reduce
the
spread
of
the
virus.
Now
all
the
institutions
I
spoke
with
the
wardens,
they're,
all
pro-prison
industries.
I've
been
working
them
closely
and
our
goal
is
to
put
as
many
offenders
to
work
in
our
programs,
but
just
the
caliber
of
getting
in
now.
A
lot
of
them
don't
even
want
to
work.
A
lot
won't
want
to
come
to
work
because
they're
getting
money
from
the
outside
or
they
don't
like
the
housing
unit.
D
They
want
to
be
in
a
certain
unit
with
their
whatever
member
affiliation
out
there
within
the
yard,
but
we
are
actively
seeking
working
with
classification
within
the
institutions,
putting
out
job
announcements
and
moving
forward
and
trying
to
train,
because
we
like
to
train
and
be
flexible,
so
we
have
a
welder
or
a
sawyer
in
our
carpenter
shop.
We
always
try
to
backfill
our
autocad
program
in
the
wood
shop.
D
D
The
always
the
supervisors
always
try
to
recruit
the
process
for
classification
for
some
of
these
inmates
come
into
the
program
we're
looking,
because
we
have
to
be
real,
cautious
of
where
the
facilities
placed
at
possible
escapes
if
they
had
any
staff
assaulted.
So
we
have
to
really
vet
that,
and
the
classification
community
does
that
which
is
comprised
of
the
ward
and
associate
warrant
and
caseworker
and
a
designee
that
the
warden
can
choose
to
select
these,
but
they
have
to
meet
the
class
classification
criteria
for
that
institution.
B
You
did
I
just
was
trying
to
to
check
to
see
if
there
was
anything
that,
on
our
part
that
we
needed
to
do
that
would
help
streamline
it
if
there
was
the
ability
to
increase
that
it
sounds
like
there.
Possibly
are
some
things
there,
but
there
are
other
things
that
we
can't
do
a
whole
lot
about.
B
If
they
don't
want
to
work,
that's
you
know
they
don't
want
to
work,
but
if
there
are
ones
that
want
to
work-
and
it
was
just
a
procedural
thing
that
we
needed
to
maybe
make
some
changes
you
know
I
just
was
trying
to
get
a
feel
for
that.
So
I
appreciate
the
response.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
E
Okay,
starting
with
fiscal
year
19.,
oh
for
the
record,
this
is
jack
and
cooper,
acting
aso
for
prison
industries
starting
with
fiscal
year
2019.
E
Our
total
brewing
board
that
it
was
attitude
back
into
the
that
was
contributed,
was
364
hundred
our
victims
of
crime
was
seventy
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
ninety
two.
B
Sorry,
sorry
to
interrupt
this
is
brodylizer
we're
having
a
real
hard
time,
hearing,
miss
cooper
and
being
able
to
pick
her
up
on
her
audio,
which
which,
as
you
know,
records
the
meeting.
And
so
I
I
apologize
for
interrupting,
and
I
know
that
they
are
in
tight
quarters
there.
But
if
there's
any
way,
we
could
have
miss
cooper
direct
her
testimony
to
the
microphone.
A
E
485,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry.
Our
total
was
five
contribution
was
513
485.
A
C
D
For
the
record
deputy
director
cuenga,
he
enacted
marshall's
law,
I
believe,
was
october
1st.
I
believe
it
was.
But
what,
since
that
gone,
has
gone
in,
we
have
had
a
meeting
with
the
board
of
prison
commissioners.
D
Everything
has
been
stopped
at
a
halt,
because
we
had
a
lot
of
advocates
coming
up,
saying
that
the
percentage
on
the
new
administrative
regulation
that
we
proposed
to
the
board
of
prison
commissioners
went
from
50
to
90
and
with
varsity's
law.
It
states
on
there
that
the
victims
will
be
paid
and
paid
first.
So
I
do
not
have
those
figures
that
would
have
to
come
from
inmate
banking
as
to
how
they're
distributed,
but
with
marcy's
law.
D
It
takes
precedence
over
everything,
so
we
are
going
to
see
a
reduction
in
room
and
board
victim,
scribes
and
pacquiao,
as
marxist
law
takes
over
depending
on
what
the
court
and
what
the
inmate
has
as
far
as
victims
crimes
restitution
that
he
owes
all.
That
has
to
be
satisfied
and
there's
a
there's,
a
sorry
for
the
term
pecking
order
where
who's
first,
second
and
third,
as
far
as
deductions,
we
are
kind
of
being
pushed.
D
These
deductions
are
being
pushed
down
so
that
the
victims
of
crime
can
get
their
restitution
paid
back
and
it
has
to
be
paid
back
immediately,
but
as
of
now,
marxist
law
is
on
hold
until
the
next
board
of
prison.
Commissioners
hearing
we
also
have
a
meeting
with
senator
neil
in
regards
to
a
bill
draft
request
that
we
put
in
regarding
marcy's
law
and
deductions,
and
I
believe
it's
gonna
be
turning
over
to
senate
bill
22.
D
A
Okay,
see
none,
then
that
will
move
us
on
to
item
number
seven
and
on
the
agenda
and
unfortunately
there
is
no
material
in
your
packet.
The
financial
statements
were
not
received.
I
believe
there
was
technical
difficulties
on
the
prisons
in,
but
I
would
like
to
ask
the
department
to
briefly
explain
where
they
are
at
being
able
to
produce
the
financial
statements
and
accommodate
areas
of
impacts,
experience
to
the
individual
industrial
programs,
so.
D
The
record
deputy
director
and
I
apologize
venture
to
the
committee
members
for
not
providing
the
report.
We
had
some
glitches
in
the
program.
We
were
using
a
program
called
sima
and
working
with
advantage.
That
program
is
a
private
program
that
we
have
used
for
years
and
apparently
it
wasn't
through.
I
spoke
with
the
director
about
this.
We
had
some
issues
within
our
it
division.
A
lot
of
people
believe
in
all
that
we
never
had
it.
They
couldn't
upgrade
it
didn't
upgrade
it
what's
happening.
D
B
D
Just
did
not
seem
right
and
I
I
agreed
with
her
and
chose
to
let
brodie
mr
lizer
know,
and
mr
speed
know
that
I
could
not
send
them
what
we
had,
because
it
is
just
incorrect
information.
I
will
not
provide
the
committee
with
inaccurate
information
and
that
we
are
working
on
it
and
we
just
got
the
server
redone
and
an
upgrade
working
with
rit
division.
D
D
However,
saint
talking
about
that
all
the
shops
are
keeping
track
as
far
as
all
our
supervisors
within
the
facilities
that
run
a
cost
center,
they
have
a
computer
program
within
their
facilities
in
their
program
to
track,
as
we
give
their
starting
budget
for
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal
year
to
track
in
all
the
ledgers
and
all
their
expenditures,
to
ensure
that
they
are
not
overspending
and
keeping
track
of
their
budget
to
stay
within
their
budget
and
maintain
profitability.
D
We
still
can
get
our
budget
status
report
from
one
of
our
other
account
techs
that
sends
it
out.
That
shows
all
the
expenditures
and
whether
it's
being
covered,
and
so
that's
kind
of
helping
us
right
now
in
the
southern
desert.
I
know:
there's
a
loss
in
that
shop.
D
The
last
hearing
that
we
had
prior
to
that
hearing,
we
were
approximately
80,
000
and
lost
since
I
implemented
some
new
procedures,
administrative
procedures
in
their
operational
procedures,
the
last
meeting
we
dropped
it
down
to
approximately
50
000
and,
as
I
also
presented
to
the
committee
of
what
our
plan
is
to
become
profitable,
have
strong
retained
earnings.
D
I
could
I
do
not
have
that
scope
on
that
picture
of
where
they're
at
now,
but
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
that
shop
and
with
it
being
closed
down
to
it's
kind
of
affecting
us
there.
But
as
soon
as
we
get
these
financials
put
together,
I
will
ensure
that
we
contact
the
lcd
analyst
brodie
and
mr
speed
and
get
that
to
them
immediately
and
see
again.
I
apologize
for
not
providing
that.
I'm
sharing.
A
But
we
do
understand
that
computer
things
happen
and,
as
I
said,
the
onset
of
this
meeting
as
we
live
through
covet.
We
are
learning
to
make
adjustments
so
as
soon
as
you
have
that
report
available
and
you
could
forward
that
to
our
staff
and
staff
can
get
it
out
to
the
committee
members.
That
would
be
great
members.
Do
you
have
any
question
on
the
presentation
on
this
agenda
item
as
limited
as
it
is,
but
there's
so
many
questions.
A
Okay,
see
now
we
will
move
on
to
item
eight
on
our
agenda,
which
you'll
find
on
page
27
of
your
meeting
packet
and
for
members.
I'll
just
remind
you
that
nrs
209.461
requires
that
the
director
report
to
the
committee
explaining
the
reasons
for
programs
net
loss
if
that
program,
experiences
a
loss
for
two
consecutive
years
and
that
the
director
take
appropriate
steps
to
eliminate
losses
if
the
losses
occur.
A
In
response
to
questions
from
our
september
25th
meeting
the
agency
provided
a
written
response
summarizing
the
reasons
for
the
program's
losses,
as
well
as
its
plans
to
generate
a
profit
that
response
you'll,
find
included
in
the
packet
material
for
today.
So
I'd
like
to
ask
the
department
to
just
give
us
a
brief
recap
of
its
report
on
the
losses.
Experience
in
the
auto
and
upholstery
shop.
D
Madam
chair,
I'm
sorry
it
was
beauty,
deputy
director
coin
guess
so
talking
about
this.
We've
had
many
challenges
there
and
through
the
years
with
that
shop,
it's
been
quite
hard
to
find
staff
to
work
out
there.
That
position
had
was
open
for
almost
10
years
out
there
for
industry
supervisor.
D
Prior
to
me,
taking
over
as
a
deputy
director,
my
predecessors
had
the
marketing
quarter
coordinator
for
the
southern
region
sitting
in
that
shop
through
the
last
10
years
after
going
in
there
and
we
hired
one
as
of
last
year
september,
I
hired
a
new
supervisor
brought
him
in,
and
then
he
had
resigned
right
around
july
august
of
this
year
due
to
some
issues,
safety
and
security.
D
So
I
he
tendered
his
resignation
and
since
then
I
have
been
scouting
and
going
around,
and
I
just
selected
the
candidate
as
of
last
week
for
the
new
prison
industry
supervisor
to
come
in
interviewed
two
candidates
as
it's
hard
to
get
people
as
that
facility.
You
know
indian
springs,
it's
approximately
a
40-45
minute
drive
from
downtown
las
vegas,
so
it
makes
it
for
a
long
drive.
A
lot
of
people
don't
want
to
go
in
and
back
and
forth
with
that,
because
we
have
on
a
410
ship.
So
we.
E
B
D
Supervisor
I'm
hoping
he's
going
to
be
starting
here
in
the
next
the
new
pay
period
he
has
passed
his
background
check,
moving
forward.
Some
of
the
issues
that
were
occurring
in
that
shop
were
invoices.
So
after
going
there
and
looking
and
dissecting
what
is
going
on,
why
are
we
not
generating
revenue?
We.
B
D
Lot
of
work,
we
have
a
long
list
of
customers
that
are
willing
and
ready
to
bring
their
vehicles
in.
So
looking
at
that,
I
had
to
look
in
and
they
were
properly
invoicing.
Some
of
the
quotes
that
were
going
out
were
inaccurate.
They
weren't
getting
them
fined,
they
weren't
even
keeping
track
of
the
the
waiting
list.
So
since
then
we
cleaned
up
that
waiting
list
and
we're
advising
customers
now
with
covet
that
it's
going
to
be
a
while
things
would
stop
and
that
we
will
get
with
them
and
continue.
D
Customers
are
still
calling
in
the
invoicing
process
and
what's
happening
is
they
would
bring
a
vehicle
in
if
they
had
upholstery
electrical
and
body
work
to
be
done?
What
they
were
doing
was
invoicing
at
the
end
of
the
job.
Well,
we've
always
had
them
to
put
a
50
deposit.
So
what
I've
implemented
is
that
they
have
50
deposit
comes
down.
We
get
with
a
customer.
The
supervisor
talks
with
the
customer
saying
we
completed
the
electrical
part.
D
That
was
one
quote,
so
it's
breaking
the
quotes
down
in
different
areas
from
electrical
to
body
and
then
a
poster.
So
as
we
complete
the
electrical,
we
invoice
them
for
that.
We
take
that
money
out
and
we
show
it
as
revenue
when
we
go
through
and
we
do
the
upholstery
that's
completed,
we
invoice
that
we
grab
the
revenue
out
of
the
deposit.
Whatever
is
left
when
we
come
through.
The
remainder
is
due
at
the
time
of
prior
to
pick
up.
D
They
have
to
make
ratios
to
make
payment
payment
in
full,
they'll,
come
out
and
inspect
the
vehicle,
and
then
they
can
sign
off
and
take
it
from
there.
So
by
not
processing
and
invoicing
these
these
jobs
through
the
job
could
take
a
year
and
full
restoration,
auto
restorations
could
take
up
to
two
years.
So
here
we
are
just
laying
out
all
this
running
the
money,
all
the
capital
to
get
these
vehicles
done
from
the
body
to
the
labor
and
raw
materials
and
we're
just
pushing
that
money
out
and
we're
not
capturing
anything
coming
in.
D
So,
by
instituting
where
we
invoice
as
we
go
as
we
complete
the
sections
of
that
job,
we
should
be
able
to
recognize
that
revenue
coming
in
so
there's
a
stream
of
revenue
coming
in
as
we
go
and
not
wait
till
a
year
or
two
years
later,
which
is
just
draining
our
funds,
and
so
it
will
show
us
at
a
loss
so
hoping
by
doing
that.
That
will
change
that
and
I'll
be
keeping
an
eye.
The
other
thing
I've
gone
into
is
also
in
re-analyzing
shop
overheads.
D
D
So
I
looked
at
the
shop
overhead
to
see
and
a
lot
of
the
the
shop
overheads
they
weren't
accurately
charged
on
there
to
recoup
some
of
this.
A
lot
of
the
money
was
going
out
so
after
looking
at
how
to
raise
the
overheads
up
to
22
more
an
hour
which
we're
still
competitive
with
the
the
private
sector-
we're
not
quite
as
high,
because
these
guys
are
also
training
in
there,
and
we
do
great
work
and
I'll
tell
you
some
of
the
cars.
D
If
you
guys
have
been
to
that
facility,
they
turn
out
some
just
outstanding
vehicles
that
are
just
show
quality,
but
in
changing
the
overheads
on
that.
Now
that
I
have
mr
jeffrey
busay
working
with
us,
I
have
already
spoke
with
them
into
looking
that
and
we're
going
to
do
that
with
every
shot.
We
need
to
look
at
all
our
shots.
D
We
need
to
review
our
overheads
annually
or
quarterly
and
look
at
it,
and
we
need
to
be
more
proactive
into
looking
our
our
fiscal
side
working
with
the
shop
supervisors,
no
matter
what
shop
it
is
in
that
quarter
in
the
first
month
we
need
to
know,
are
they
losing,
and
each
shop
should
know
what
their
fixed
expenditures
are
per
month?
How
much
revenue
they
got
to
generate
to
come
in
to
cover
their
operating
costs?
D
Just
to
turn
the
lights
on,
so
they
need
to
cover
that
cost
and
generate
more
revenue
so
offset
that
loss
so
that
they
become
profitable
and
have
strongly
returned
from
retained
earnings.
But
we
have
to
be
more
proactive
into
all
our
operations
and
not
wait
till
we
report
to
the
committee
and
say
we're
lost.
I
would
like
to
see
my
the
new
aso
and
we
have
spoken.
He
will
not
be
a
desk
jumping.
D
He
will
be
going
out
to
each
facility
and
traveling
with
you
know,
permitting
with
cobit
working
with
the
supervisor,
seeing
how
they're
in
how
they're,
quoting
how
are
they
invoicing?
How
are
they
generating
their
weekly
reports
and
monthly
reports?
We
need
to
get
handle
this
more
proactive,
rather
than
wait
until
we
compile
all
those
reports,
then
I
report
to
the
committee
to
say
we're
at
a
loss.
Sorry
about
that.
I
want
to
be
more
proactive.
D
D
Mr
dusay,
here
he
can
cover
the
south
and
I
cover
the
north.
We
can
meet
and
switch
and
go
around,
so
we
want
to
be
more
proactive
because
these
programs
are
very
important.
I
understand
we
have
to
have
strong
retained
earnings,
but
also
in
history.
We
had
our
drapery
factory
that
elite
at
evening
state
prison.
It
was
a
constant
loss
in
my
career
as
a
super
guy.
I
was
watching
that
that
I
was
in
charge
of
that
shot.
D
I
was
with
metal,
mattress
or
metal
furniture,
but
some
of
the
things
is
at
least
we're
giving
the
inmates
a
stepping
stone
in
our
maximum
facility
at
that
time.
So
it
wasn't
just
about
the
dollar
it's
about
providing
something
in
the
facility,
so
these
guys
can
get
skills,
so
they
can
better
themselves
and
if
they're,
in
a
higher
level
custody,
they
have
something
to
look
forward
to
to
change
their
behavior
and
say
hey.
I
want
to
change
my
car.
D
I
want
to
work
in
p.I
so
that
reduces
their
their
any
corrective
action
that
they
get
through
and
write-ups
notice
the
charges
within
the
institution
their
numbers
go
down.
They
can
qualify
to
work
in
prison
industries,
gain
skill
and
it's
amazing
once
they
have
that
opportunity
and
they
start
earning
a
wage
which,
which
is
not
much,
but
it's
something
that
they
can
provide
for
themselves
or
their
family.
D
D
We
have
to
have
to
retain
and
we're
going
to
change
that
within
our
operations
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
continuing
to
work
hard
at
this
with
a
new
aso,
so
that
we
can
keep
our
operations
strong
and
be
more
proactive
and
not
wait
till
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
quarter
and
then
realize
that
that's
where
we're
at.
We
need
to
know
where
we're
at
every
month
and
prior
to
going
to
the
community,
and
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
A
Well,
thank
you
for
that
report
that
does
answer
the
question
and
I'm
excited
to
hear
that
there's
a
new
plan
going
for
it
to
get
a
better
idea
of
where
you're
at
month
to
month,
so
you're
better
able
to
adjust
and
address
those
issues.
Members
any
questions
or
comment
on
the
report
on
this
agenda
item.
A
E
E
We
had
inmate
wage
assessments
of
sixty
five
thousand
one
sixty
one,
an
interest:
income
of
interest
income
of
two
hundred
and
seventy
two
thousand
seven
hundred
twenty
five
dollars.
E
Our
total
revenue
was
then
six
thousand
sixty
seven
thousand
eight
hundred
and
ninety
three
dollars
and
our
ending
balance
was
three
hundred
and
seventy
one
thousand
seven
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars
and
then
fiscal
year.
Eighteen,
we
had
inmate
wage
and
assessment
of
sixty
six
thousand
two
hundred
and
nineteen
dollars
interest
income
of
five
thousand
six.
Eighty
eight
for
a
total
revenue
of
seventy
one
thousand
nine,
oh
seven,
and
our
ending
balance
was
four
hundred
and
forty
three
thousand
six.
E
E
E
E
E
E
A
A
D
Okay,
if
I
may
also
add
going
back
all
the
financials,
also
with
our
funds
available
for
construction,
if
I
may
add
that,
since
this
last
special
session,
I
just
want
the
committee
to
be
aware.
B
D
As
of
our
budget
for
37.19,
for
our
prison
industries,
section
that
they
pulled
out,
250
000
out
of
our
retained
earnings
to.
A
D
Brother
record
deputy
director
kwenga.
I
just
wanted
to
add
that,
as
of
the
last
special
session
with
all
the
budget
cuts
and
reductions
that
budget
3917,
which
is
our
prison
industries
fund,
that
we
they
took
out
250
000
out
of
our
retained
earnings
and
in
our
ranch
program,
which
is
3727
budget
account.
They
took
out
350
000
out
of
our
retained
earnings.
So
I
just
want
the
committee
to
be
aware
that
that
will
also
impact
us
on
our
operations
and
our
financials.
A
Thank
you
for
that
update
on
those
budget
reductions,
members
to
hear
that
any
questions
or
comments.
A
A
See
none
then
that
break
us
up
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
item
number
10.,
and
I
think
you
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier
in
your
presentation,
mr
quingo,
but
at
this
time
at
our
last
meeting,
all
wire
had
just
begun
its
operation
employing
five
inmates
at
that
time,
whereas
ink
to
work
had
yet
to
implement
its
operations,
could
you
provide
us
with
an
update
on
the
status
of
of
approving
and
implementing
inmate
employment
opportunities
with
both
of
these
two
industries?.
D
By
the
record
deputy
director
kwenga
in
regards
to
all
wire,
we
had
them
start
moving
in
at
the
end
of
september
and
then
right
about
mid-october.
After
getting
their
equipment
up,
all
wire
is
very
excited
and
you
know
we
could
have
moved
in
sooner,
but
with
covet
everything
stopped
in
talking
with
our
director
and
with
awards.
We
came
up
with
a
plan
of
how
we
can
get
them
moved
in
to
start
up
operations
and
it
works
so
mid-october
we
started
working
with
them,
bring
it
in.
D
We
start
off
with
five
inmates
and
then,
within
a
couple
weeks
they
start
calling
me
and
saying
boy.
We
underestimate
it.
These
guys
are
learning
real
fast.
We
need
to
ramp
it
up,
so
we
were
trying
to
get
them
anywhere
from
five
inmates
for
moving
on
each
week
to
get
them
classified
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
in
my
testimony
that
getting
inmates
to
be
classified
and
one
of
the
issues
that
I
caught,
that
could
have
been
an
issue
at
the
southern
desert
correctional
facility
regarding
all
water.
So
all.
C
D
Is
based
in
there
we
have
a
20
thousand
square
foot
sprung
building
in
there,
and
then
we
have
our
paddle
shop
so
being
careful
and
safety
security.
A
lot
of
the
work
that
was
out
on
the
yard
was
a
lot
of
inmates
were
not
going
to
work
for
prison
industries.
They
were
going
to
work
till
all.
Water
came
in
as
all
water
is
a
certified
program,
so.
D
Certified
wages,
which
is
a
ten
percent
percentile
the
prevailing
wage
for
that
geographical
location
for
that
occupational
code,
so
trying
to
maintain
that
and
not
cause
any
kind
of
tension
amongst
the
inmates
working
in
prison
industries.
We
started
getting
less
from
the
yard
of
inmates,
and
I
got
the
word
out.
Nobody
from
the
yard,
who
is
not
currently
employed
with
prison
industries
will
go
directly
to
work
for
all
water.
That
would
not
be
fair.
That
would
be
that
would
cause
issues
within
the
prison
system.
D
What
I've
done
is
I've
had
this
acting
supervisor
screen,
who
we
had
within
our
auto
operation
and
our
card
sorting
operation,
making
sure
that
we
can
still
make
operations
with
our
auto
and
cart
sorting.
So
we
chose
them
very
wisely,
gave
the
opportunity
and
we're
slowly,
integrating
and
selecting
these
inmates
that
are
working
in
our
existing
industry
to
go
to
all
wire
and
then
bringing
in
others
prior
to
setting
them
back,
fill
in
that
to
train
them
to
work
in
our
auto
and
then
we're
watching
the
work
ethic.
D
We
want
to
see
if
they're
working,
because
we
do
not
want
inmates
just
to
come
into
prison
industries
just
to
earn
just
to
make
money.
You're
not
there,
just
to
earn
a
wage
you're
in
there
to
learn
a
skill
you're
in
there
to
change
your
behavior
and
you're,
going
to
get
worse
skill
and
try
to
get
marketable
skills
so
upon
release.
You
can
be
a
productive
citizen
in
our
community
and
not
come
back
to
reduce
recidivism.
D
So
that's
what
I
have
and
so
all
all
wires
up
to
20
they're,
looking
to
get
more,
I'm
working
with
the
acting
supervisor
and
working
with
classification
and
had
conversations
with
the
warden
and
the
associate
warning
programs
they're
working
on
it,
but
with
covet
right
now
we
have
to
be
very
careful
because
it's
starting
it's
surging.
Yet
a
lot
of
the
inmates
are
coming
positive.
D
Hopefully,
here
with
the
next
week,
we
can
get
some
more
inmates
on
the
list
that
we
can
interview.
So
we
bring
them
in
training
and
then
move
some
over
off
to
all
water.
So
we're
trying
to
maintain
that
contract
and
keep
all
wire
float
over
there
too.
So
they
can
produce
product
their
products,
mainly
their
biggest
customers
here
in
henderson
nevada.
So
it's
great
for
them
to
produce
these
electronic
circuitry
panels.
They're
really
high
dollar
and
these
inmates
are
getting
great
training.
They
can
make
anywhere
from
60
to
90
to
100
000.
D
If
you
win
the
silicon
valley
or
work
with
panasonic
or
any
other
electronic
manufacturing
out
there,
so
it
gives
them
great
skill
to
earn
a
great
wage.
Moving
on
to
inc
to
work,
I've
had
conversations
as
we
had
in
the
past.
In
my
past,
testimony
in
the
previous
hearings
talked
about
angel
works,
they're
coming
in
and
wanting
to
work.
You
know
10
12
inmates,
and
then
they
came
back
saying.
No.
We
only
want
to
do
two.
D
We
want
to
do
distribution
and
I
advise
the
committee
that
that's
not
our
mission
and
that's
not
what
we're
going
to
do.
We
are
going
to
employ
as
many
you
can
in
that
program
and
develop
skills,
so
they
since
have
just
a
couple.
Weeks
ago
I
spoke
with
mr
hebrew
and
his
new
assistant
and
what
they've
done
we've
talked,
and
so
they
wanted
now
they've
changed.
So
we
have
tested
their
ink
cartridges
and
they
are
absolutely
just
quality.
I
mean
I've
used
them.
D
D
So
we're
looking
at
I'm
going
to
look
at
the
proposal.
I
will
report
back
to
the
committee
and
hopefully
we
can
get
them
going
it
up
at
nncc
and
employing
teammates
up
there,
but
hopefully
we
get
this
going
with
this
pandemic
going
on
it
just
it
puts
a
roadblock
on
certain
things,
but
I
look
beyond
that
and
try
to
think
beyond
that.
So
when
we
do
get
to
that
point
and
we
open
up,
we've
got
to
be
ready.
D
I
don't
know
I
do
not
want
to
wait
until
the
pandemic's
gone
or
wells
down
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
we're
ready
to
go
and
we
don't
have
a
plan.
So
I'm
trying
to
put
a
plan
together
to
be
proactive
on
that
to
get
this
company
in
as
soon
as
this
kind
of
kind
of
eases
up
where
we
get
more
damage,
I'm
open
for
any
questions,
not
sure.
A
Well,
I
I
thank
you
for
that
report.
I'm
and
I
understand
the
reasoning
for
wanting
to
make
the
location
in
northern
nevada
because
of
the
convenience.
But
what
I'm
hearing
and
the
information
that
I
have
could
be
wrong.
You
can
correct
me
that
our
covet
numbers
are
higher
at
that
location
in
carson
city
than
at
the
facility
in
the
south.
A
So
perhaps,
as
you
look
at
making
plans
make
a
plan
for
both
so
because
we
don't
know
how
long
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
covet,
but
if
there's
a
way
to
get
ink
to
work
up
and
running,
even
if
it's
the
distance
isn't
as
convenient
in
the
south,
but
we
could
get
it
up
and
running
in
the
south,
so
we
can
get
inmates
to
work.
Perhaps
we
start
there
and
then
make
the
move
to
northern
nevada
when
our
covet
numbers
are
in
a
better
position
or
maybe
even
have
two
locations.
A
D
And
chair
deputy
director,
queen
you'd,
like
to
comment
on
that
also
with
our
southern
desert
facility.
We
are
pretty
much
at
capacity
when
interwork
came
to
us
and
you
start
talking
in
negotiations
and
then
all
water
came
up
the
20
000
square
foot
facility
that
we
had
a
sprung
building.
We
had
a
portion
of
that
that
was
supposed
to
be
utilized
at
least
rented
out
bought
me
to
work
so
with
covet
and
all
that
and
the
amount
of
inmates
working.
D
We
are
at
capacity
with
part
sorting,
auto
restoration
and
with
all
wired
southern
desert.
However,
I
will
look
and
see
we
have
one
more
bay
available
up
at
high
density
prison.
I
believe
we
have
about
10
to
10
000
square
foot.
I
don't
know
if
they'll
be
utilizing
that
whole
thing,
but
I
will
also
look
into
that
see
if
we
can
get
that
there
as
well
as
well
as
ncc
as
you
have
recommended.
Thank
you.
E
D
A
Thank
you,
mr
lego,
for
that
I
truly
appreciate
it.
I
see
no
other
members
with
comments
or
questions
on
that
agenda
item,
and
that
brings
us
up
to
the
last
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
the
second
portion
or
public
comment,
and
I
will
ask
our
broadcast
production
staff
to
check
and
see
if
there's
anyone
in
the
waiting
room
give
a
few
minutes
for
anyone.
That
would
like
to
make
a
comment.
A
B
A
Thank
you
so
much
so
before
we
adjourn
this
meeting.
This
will
most
likely
be
the
last
meeting
for
our
committee
during
this
interim,
and
I
would
like
just
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
all
of
the
members,
the
ndoc
staff,
the
lcb
staff
and
the
public
for
their
participation.
C
To
adjourn-
and
I
will
second,
your
holiday
wishes
for
everyone
as
well.
A
This
is
beverly
williams.
I
will
do
a
second
and
happy
holidays
to
everyone.
Thank
you
both
and
thank
everyone.
Mr
quango,
you
get
a
break,
no
more
meetings
for
the
day,
hopefully,
for
you
all
right.