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A
So
I
would
like
to
call
to
order
the
meeting
of
the
advisory
commission
on
the
administration
of
justice's
subcommittee
on
criminal
justice.
Information
sharing
today
is
monday
october
19th
of
2020
at
101
pm
members
and
staff.
Please
remember
to
mute
your
microphones
when
you
are
not
speaking
and
unmute
your
microphone
before
you
begin
speaking
members,
please
wave
your
hand
or
unmute
and
speak
up
announcing
your
name
to
get
my
attention.
If
you
wish
to
speak
roll
call,
madam
secretary,
will
you
please
call
the
role.
B
C
A
A
Public
testimony
under
this
item
may
be
presented
by
phone
or
written
comment
because
of
time
considerations.
Each
caller
offering
testimony
during
this
period
for
public
comment
will
be
limited
to
not
more
than
two
minutes.
A
person
may
also
have
comments
added
to
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
by
submitting
them
in
writing
either.
In
addition
to
testifying
or
in
lieu
of
testifying
written
comments
may
be
submitted
by
email
at
jordan.haas
at
lcb.state.nb.us
or
faxsimile
at
area
code.
A
775-684-6761
or
via
mail
at
401,
south
carson
street
carson
city
nevada
89701,
before
during
or
after
the
meeting
to
dial
in
to
provide
testimony
during
this
period
of
public
comment
in
the
meeting
anytime
after
12
30
pm
on
monday
october
19th
of
2020,
you
may
dial
area
code
669
900
6833
when
prompted
to
provide
your
meeting
id.
Please
enter.
A
A
A
A
A
I've
been
with
the
department
of
public
safety
for
almost
24
years,
holding
multiple
roles
throughout
this
division.
I'm
humbled
to
have
been
appointed
to
this
role.
As
chair
of
the
subcommittee,
I
look
forward
to
the
very
important
work
that
we
hope
to
accomplish
and
with
that,
if
I
could
have
everyone
introduce
themselves,
please
provide
your
name.
The
agency,
you
work
for,
and
the
role
that
you
play
at
that
agency
and
to
make
it
easier
I'll,
go
ahead
and
take
roll
call.
D
A
A
A
A
H
H
176.01248
that
was
appointed
by
the
director
of
the
department
of
public
safety,
because
I
use
the
information
relating
to
the
records
of
criminal
history
for
purposes
other
than
criminal
justice,
for
example,
the
criminal
justice
criminal
history
reports
can
be
used
to
determine
eligibility
for
employment
and
licensure
at
the
board
of
nursing.
We
do
licensure,
but
since
I've
been
appointed
I'll,
be
speaking
up
for
people
that
need
criminal
history
for
employment
purposes
and
that's
what
I
do
and
that's
why
I'm
here.
A
E
A
A
A
C
A
A
I
won't
be
that
much
of
a
slave
driver
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
close
agenda
item
4
and
move
on
to
agenda
item
five
election
of
vice
chair
from
the
members
of
the
subcommittee
on
criminal
justice
information
sharing.
Do
I
have
a
motion
by
anyone
to
elect
or
nominate
someone
to
be
the
vice
chair
of
this
subcommittee.
B
A
Thank
you,
sir,
and
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
ask
that
we
take
roll
call,
but
when
they
do
take
roll
call,
if
you
could
please
indicate
by
saying
yes
or
no
rather
than
saying
yay
or
nay,
it's
a
little
difficult
to
discern
that
so
say
yes
or
no
during
roll
call.
So,
madam
secretary,
could
you
please
call
the
role
mr
grierson.
B
A
A
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
thank
you
for
volunteering
with
that
I'll
close
agenda
item
5
and
move
to
agenda
item
6
presentation
on
the
responsibilities
and
authority
of
the
subcommittee
on
criminal
justice,
information
sharing
and
working
groups.
Ms
kathleen
norris
with
the
legal
division
of
the
legislative
council
bureau
is
with
us
to
conduct
that
presentation.
Ms
norris,
whenever
you're
ready.
D
D
D
Information
sharing,
such
as
for
employment
or
licensure
chairwin
of
the
advisory
commission
on
the
administration
of
justice,
has
appointed
10
members
to
the
subcommittee.
Thus,
there
needs
to
be
at
least
six
members
present
to
take
any
action
at
the
meetings
generally,
this
subcommittee,
this
subcommittee's
duties,
relate
to
criminal
justice
information
sharing.
Specifically,
this
subcommittee
reviews
requests
from
criminal
justice
agencies
regarding
the
capabilities
of
the
nevada
criminal
justice
information
system.
The
subcommittee
also
reviews
technological
and
operational
issues
related
to
the
nevada
criminal
justice
information
system
as
well.
D
D
The
chair
of
this
subcommittee
will
appoint
chairs
of
the
working
groups
in
those
chairs
must
report
back
to
the
subcommittee
regarding
their
activities.
Finally,
because
of
the
sensitive
nature
of
criminal
justice
information
systems
in
this
state,
the
working
groups
are
not
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law
or
the
public
records
law.
Madam
chair,
that
concludes
my
presentation.
A
So
hopefully
you
all
received
the
bylaws
and
had
an
opportunity
to
review
them.
I
have-
and
I
do
have
some
suggested
changes
to
the
bylaws,
so
I
can
go
ahead
and
go
through
my
suggested
changes
first
and
then
go
to
the
members
for
any
suggested
changes
that
you
may
have
after
the
review
of
the
bylaws.
If
you
don't
mind
so
I'll,
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
my
version
of
suggested
changes
to
the
bylaws.
A
D
Kathleen
norris
deputy
legislative
council
for
the
record,
madam
chair,
there's
no
requirement
in
statute
that
the
subcommittee
needs
to
have
bylaws.
So
if
you
want
them
to
be
approved
that
then
you're
welcome
to
do
that
in
within
the
purview
of
the
bylaws,
or
else
you
can
take
out
that
requirement
from
the
bylaws.
D
A
You
okay.
Thank
you.
Okay,
moving
on
to
page
number,
one
under
number
one
authority
we
do
have
some
suggested
changes
regarding
the
citation
of
statute
which
codified
the
subcommittee
in
2017.
It
previously
referenced.
The
actual
bill
drafts
the
the
bills
that
created
the
subcommittee
because
it
hadn't
been
codified
yet
now
that
we're
codified,
we'd
like
to
remove
the
reference
to
the
bills
and
actually
reference
nevada,
revised
statute
176.0121
through
nrs
176.0129
and
also.
A
Nrs176.01248
and
at
the
end
of
that
paragraph,
under
section
1.1,
I
would
like
to
add
a
former
advisory
committee
on
nevada
criminal
justice
of
information
sharing.
I
would
like
to
add
in
2017.,
so
those
are
my
suggested
changes
on
on
page
one,
underneath
one
authority,
1.1
authority
for
nevada
advisory
process.
A
Are
there
any
comments
on
that
one
before
I
move
forward,
I
think
I'll
take
a
vote
at
the
very
end,
so
we'll
just
take
comments
throughout
okay.
So
moving
on
to
section
two
definitions:
nevada,
criminal
justice,
information
system
in
sub,
a
computerized
criminal
history
cch
in
parentheses,
which
contains
records
of
individuals.
I
would
like
to
add
information
specific
to
arrests,
prosecution,
court
detention
and
supervision,
and
I
would
like
to
strike
the
words
convicted
and
sentenced
in
nevada,
not
in
nevada,
but
strike
the
words
convicted
and
sentenced.
A
So
I'm
going
to
read
the
way
that
I
would
like
to
propose
the
sentence
to
read:
computerized
criminal
history
cch,
which
contains
records
of
individuals,
information,
specific
to
arrests,
prosecution,
court
detention
and
supervision
in
nevada.
So,
if
you're,
all
okay
with
my
suggested
changes
on
that
sentence,
that's
how
it
would
read
after
the
changes.
B
A
A
Excellent
sub
e,
as
in
edward
under
number
two
proposing
some
added
language
at
the
very
beginning,
to
state
repository
for
information
concerning
orders
for
protection
and
striking
out
the
words,
nevada,
domestic
violence,
protection
orders
and
the
purpose
for
that
is
last
session.
2019
we
had
a
couple
of
bills
passed
that
expanded
our
repository
for
protection
orders.
A
Hey
moving
on
to
we're
going
to
stay
under
number
two.
Moving
on
to
page
two,
I
am
proposing
to
strike
sub
h's
and
henry
because
ncgis
no
longer
includes
otis,
that
is
the
offender
tracking
information
system
that
belongs
directly
and
specifically
under
the
division
of
pearl
and
probation
within
the
department
of
public
safety.
A
That,
okay
moving
on
to
sub,
which
will
now
be
sub
h,
but
it
is
sub.
I
right
now
state
live
scan
network
which
electronically
connects
the
fingerprints
taken
and
charges
issued
when
booking
an
individual
in
a
county
or
jail
with
the
cch
file.
In
the
central
repository
the
word
and
after
that,
I'd
like
to
strike
that
put
a
comma
and
add
the
language,
the
western
identification
network
and
the
federal
bureau
of
investigations,
spelling
out
fbi,
putting
the
acronym
fbi
in
parentheses
and
then
striking
the
reference
to
ngi.
A
Okay,
moving
on
to
the
next
paragraph
under
letter,
I
it
begins
and
c
just
also
provides
a
pathway
on
page
two
there's
some
more
subsections.
A
through
g
on
that
one
going
to
sub
e
is
in
edward.
It
references
the
law
enforcement
online
portal.
The
fbi
has
changed
that
name.
It
is
now
the
law
enforcement
enterprise
portal,
so
is
no
longer
leo.
It
is
now
leap,
so
I
would
just
like
to
make
that
change
comments
on
that.
A
Okay,
next
is
the
paragraph
underneath
all
of
those
subs.
It
begins.
Finally,
and
c
just
provides
a
mechanism
for
nevada,
criminal
justice
agencies
to
access
criminal
history
record
information.
I
would
like
to
add
a
comma
right.
There
strike
the
word,
and
so
it
will
read
history
record
information
driver's
license
information
and
I
would
like
to
add
comma
and
other
criminal
justice
related
data
of
other
states
via
endless.
We
access
not
only
criminal
history
and
driver's
license
information
from
other
states,
but
we
also
access
other
criminal
justice
data.
A
A
Right
moving
on
to
closer
to
the
bottom
of
page
2
under
section
2.2
fbi,
cg
systems
agency
or
the
csa
in
the
very
last
paragraph,
the
very
last
sentence
it
begins.
The
csa
for
the
state
of
nevada
is
the
department
of
public
safety.
I
want
to
add
to
that
currently
delegated
to
the
records,
communications
and
compliance
division,
so
that
it's
clear
where
the
csa
is
housed
within
the
department
of
public
safety.
A
Okay,
moving
on
to
page
three
under
section
2.4,
again
we're
striking
out
the
reference
to
the
bills
and
just
referencing
the
statute
that
we
were
codified
in,
there's
that
and
then
similar
thing
under
section
2.5
on
page
three,
we're
striking
out
the
reference
to
the
bills
and
referencing
the
codified
statute
for
the
subcommittee
and
then.
Lastly,
on
page
three
at
the
very
bottom,
very
last
sentence
of
the
paragraph
it
states
there
are
12
members
of
the
subcommittee.
A
A
Comments
on
that
one:
okay,
moving
on
to
page
four
again
we're
striking
the
reference
to
the
bill,
referencing
the
codified
statute,
a
couple
of
different
times
on
that
page
and
then
under
section
3,
which
is
the
objectives
under
sub
3.2,
provide
a
forum
for
the
presentation
and
exchange
of
information
relative
to
the
nevada
criminal
justice
community.
I
want
to
add
language
just
behind
that
that
states
and
its
processes,
so
the
sentence
will
read,
provide
a
forum
for
the
presentation
and
exchange
of
information
relative
to
the
nevada,
criminal
justice
community
and
its
processes
on
that.
A
A
Right,
I'm
gonna
get
through
this.
Next
is
page
five.
Underneath
number
four
subcommittee
meetings
we're
going
to
strike
we're
suggesting
to
strike
section
4.1
that
currently
reads.
Sub-Committee
meetings
shall
be
conducted
in
accordance
with
nevada,
open
meeting
law,
we're
going
to
strike
that
we
have
our
own
rules
of
order
that
we
are
governed
by
and
lcb
legal
can
speak
up
if
they
have
any
insight
into
what
that
exactly
is.
But
it
was
suggested
that
we
strike
that
so
then
the
next
one
would
be
4.2,
which
would
now
be
the
new
4.1.
A
A
Okay,
page
number,
six
under
number
five,
which
is
subcommittee
officers
under
5.1,
I'm
suggesting
that
the
first
sentence
starts.
The
officers
of
the
subcommittee
will
consist
of
the
chair
and
vice
chair
statute
states
that
the
chair
of
the
acha
appoints
the
members
of
the
subcommittee.
So
I
want
to
make
that
clear
by
changing
it
to
state
the
chair
of
the
ach
appoints
the
members
of
the
subcommittee
period.
A
Okay,
staying
on
page
six
under
5.2
staff
of
the
legislative
council
bureau,
will
record
all
subcommittee
meetings,
take
minutes
and
make
minutes
available
to
the
public
period.
So
I
want
to
strike
out,
in
accordance
with
nevada,
open
meeting
law,
to
be
consistent
with
the
strikeout
of
section
4.1
comments
on
that
change
and
then
you'll
notice
that
there's
a
reference
again
to
the
bills
of
2017
session,
we're
going
to
strike
out
the
reference
to
the
bills
and
reference
the
statute
that
codified
the
subcommittee.
A
A
A
A
A
If
you
go
down
to
section
7.7
staff
of
the
cso
and
enterprise
I.t
services,
we
have
more
the
so
my
division
has
more
than
just
enterprise
I.t
services
that
provides
I.t
services
to
us.
So
I
would
propose
that
we
strike
out
the
reference
to
enterprise
I.t
services
so
strike
the
word.
Enterprise
keep
the
words
it
services
and
add
the
word
providers
after
that,
so
it
would
read
staff
of
the
cso
and
it
services
providers
will
analyze
the
working
groups,
topic
papers
and
the
language
after
that
will
stay
the
same
comments
on
that
suggested.
A
A
A
B
A
It
begins
be
a
fine
paid
employee
of
a
nevada,
criminal
justice
agency,
for
example,
not
a
contractor
or
vendor.
We
would
like
to
add
or
be
an
authorized
user
of
criminal
history
record
information
from
the
central
repository
via
a
statute
approved
by
the
fbi
under
public
law,
92
544
to
be
consistent
with
the
previous
suggested
change.
A
So
if
you're,
okay
with
that,
it's
the
same
as
what
I
just
suggested
before
and
then
lastly,
and
I'll
be
quiet
and
open
it
up
to
the
other
members.
Section
9.1.3
is
kind
of
a
new
section,
because
we
added
9.1.2
more
than
one
person
from
the
same
agency
may
be
appointed
to
a
working
group.
However,
in
matters
which
require
a
vote,
the
agency
shall
have
only
one
vote
and
not
one
vote
for
each
member
on
a
working
group.
A
D
A
I'm
okay
with
that,
so
it
will
read
a
majority.
So,
on
page
five
under
four
point,
which
is
now
going
to
become
4.2,
it
starts
a
majority
of
the
subcommittee
members
present.
Currently
it
says
at
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting
so
you're
proposing
to
strike
a
regularly
swear.
It
would
read:
a
majority
of
the
subcommittee
members
present
at
scheduled
meetings
constitute
a
quorum
correct.
B
D
Kathleen
norris
deputy
legislative
counsel
for
the
record,
madam
chair,
the
activities
and
the
meetings
of
the
subcommittee
itself
are
are
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law.
The
working
groups
in
those
meetings,
specifically
only
to
the
working
groups
are
not
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law
in
the
public
records
law.
A
Okay,
well,
I
know
I
went
through
that
quickly.
Hopefully
you
were
able
to
digest
that
as
I
fed
you,
the
elephant,
one
bite
and
one
whole
bite
if
you're
comfortable.
If
anybody
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
accept
my
suggested
changes
and
those
of
the
other
members
that
spoke
up,
I'm
happy
to
entertain
a
motion.
B
C
A
All
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
that
agenda
item
and
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
eight,
which
is
the
presentation
on
topic,
paper
12,
which
will
be
presented
by
alison
ristin,
who
is
with
the
records,
communications
and
compliance
division
of
the
department
of
public
safety?
Ms
ristin,
when
you're
ready,
please
unmute
and
present
topic
paper,
12.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
afternoon,
members
of
the
subcommittee.
My
name
is
allison
rusteen
and
I'm
with
department
of
public
safety
records,
communications
and
compliance
division.
I
am
the
criminal
history
repository
manager
and
I
would
like
to
discuss
a
topic
paper
that
I
have
out
there
on
adding
additional
disposition
codes.
A
F
Accurate
criminal
history
is
crucial
in
the
civil
and
criminal
justice
communities
for
making
true
and
correct
decisions,
as
required
by
law
within
the
scope
of
their
duties.
So
we
feel
that
adding
these
new
disposition
codes
would
allow
agencies
to
use
state
criminal
history
without
additional
and
timely
research.
F
So
I
have
learned
that
courts
use
many
different
disposition,
codes
and
hundreds
of
different
disposition
codes
actually
and
with
several
different
code
types
that
may
or
may
not
be
separate
from
our
state
codes.
So
it's
been
very
difficult
for
the
criminal
records
unit
that
enters
those
final
dispositions
to
accurately
find
a
fit
for
the
correct
disposition
code
that
the
code
the
court
is
requesting.
F
Sometimes
it
doesn't
always
accurately
accurately
reflect
that
true
outcome,
so
we're
asking
for
12
different
additional
disposition
codes
to
be
added
to
our
criminal
history
system.
At
the
bottom
of
page,
1
you'll
see
what
our
current
disposition
codes
are.
Now
we
have
denied
dismissed,
dismissed
on
appeal
guilty
at
trial.
No
charges
filed
not
guilty
on
appeal,
pled
guilty
and
reversed
on
appeal,
and
last
but
not
least,
we
also
have
deferred
on
page
two.
These
are
the
disposition
codes
that
we
are
proposing
to
add.
F
The
first
one
is
a
bind
over.
This
would
not
allow
for
any
additional
sentencing
information,
but
would
allow
for
justice
courts
to
accurately
reflect
that
the
charge
has
been
bound
over
to
district
court
and
it
would
let
law
enforcement
know
that
the
case
is
still
pending
the
next
one
on
the
list
is
for
warrants.
That,
usually
is
for
arrests
made
on
warrants
and
nine
times
out
of
ten.
We
don't
always
get
disposition
information
for
that
one,
so
it
would
not
require
any
additional
disposition.
Information.
F
The
next
one
down
is
dismissed
after
diversion,
so
it
would
be
after
a
diversion
program
has
been
successfully
completed.
It
would
accurately
reflect
that
there
was
enough
diversion
in
that
sentence.
Next,
one
is
dismissed
mental
defective.
This
one
is
specifically
for
firearm
disqualifying
purposes
and
no
sentencing
information
would
be
required.
F
The
next
one
down
dnc
would
be
dismissed.
New
charges
filed
by
the
district
attorney,
no
sentencing
information
would
be
required,
and
this
is
to
show
that
charges
were
dismissed
by
the
da
for
new
charges
being
filed,
and
then
the
criminal
history
at
that
point
would
reflect
the
new
charges
added
by
the
district
attorney.
F
F
F
The
next
one
is
suspended,
sentence
reinstated
same
thing,
all
sentencing
fields
would
be
required
and
it
would
explain
an
unsuccessful
deferral
or
diversion
program.
So
if
it
was
in
a
suspended
sentence-
and
they
had
reinstated
it,
it
would
reflect
that
it
was
unsuccessful,
and
now
the
sentence
is
being
imposed.
F
Page
3
srv
guilty
suspended,
sentence
revoked,
all
sentencing,
fields
would
be
required
and
this
would
explain
again
an
unsuccessful
deferral
or
diversion
program
and,
last
but
not
least,
unknown,
unable
to
associate
dyspo
to
charge.
No
sentencing
information
would
be
required,
but
a
comment
would
be
required.
This
is
again
for
some
older
dispositions
where
we
only
have.
We
have
multiple
charges
on
the
arrest,
but
we
only
have
one
disposition
and
we
can't
quite
determine
which
charge
that
disposition
is
supposed
to
go
to.
A
B
I
just
have
a
comment
on
the
bind
over
and
that
one
just
speaks
to
my
heart
and
I
appreciate
it
so
much
because
officers
in
the
field
absolutely
do
not
understand
when
that
charge
says
dismissed
that
it's
really
going
to
another
court
and
they
treat
it
like
a
dismissal.
So
I
think
that
one's
extremely
important
for
them
to
have
so
that
was
it
just
a
comment.
A
B
A
Thank
you
for
the
question
vice
chair.
What
I'm
envisioning
is
that
this
would
be
included
in
our
modernization
program.
Allison
and
erica
erica
is
one
of
our
members.
She
can
speak
to
that
as
well,
and
then
allison
being
the
presenter
of
this
topic
paper,
she
might
be
able
to
speak
to
that
as
well.
F
This
is
allison
we're
staying
for
the
record.
The
hope
is
to
have
this
done
as
quickly
as
possible
so
that
we
can
accurately
reflect
our
criminal
history
and
disposition
codes.
Ultimately,
we
have
gone
this
long
without
it,
and
we've
done
the
best
that
we
could
to
accurately
reflect
final
dispositions.
F
There
would
be
additional
technology
involved.
We
would
need
to
get
aoc
involved
for
the
courts,
that
report
through
the
e-dispo
or
the
electronic
disposition
program
those
that
also
report
through
court
view,
which
we
call
a
crystal
recording
those
dispositions
print
directly
to
our
unit,
and
then
we
would
also
have
to
get
our
vendor
for
our
cch
involved
in
coding
and
also
our
eats
department
involved
in
coding.
A
Thank
you,
mr
steen,
for
answering
that
question.
As
far
as
cost
there
would
be
a
cost
to
us
the
division,
because
we
own
that
application,
the
computerized
criminal
history
system,
as
far
as
the
cost
to
any
of
the
other
agencies,
when
mr
steen
refers
to
working
with
aoc
any
other
agencies,
I'm
not
sure,
because
I'm
not
those
agencies,
so
I
would
not
be
able
to
speak
to
that
on
their
behalf,
but
we
will
remain
cognizant
of
that.
A
We
try
to
with
everything
that
we
do
when
we
touch
the
system.
So
thank
you
for
that
question.
Normally
what
we
do
with
these
topic
papers
is
they
get
submitted
by
someone?
It
could
be
a
user,
an
agency.
It
could
be
internally
by
my
staff
and
the
first
place
that
these
go
are
to
the
northern
and
southern
working
groups
for
review
and
consideration.
A
If
it
is
approved
by
both
working
groups,
then
it
moves
up
to
the
subcommittee
for
review,
consideration
and
a
vote.
So
this
was
reviewed
by
the
northern
and
southern
working
groups
previously
and
voted
to
move
forward,
which
is
why
it's
here
you
will
see
on
the
last
page.
There
are
options
for
a
vote
if
we
want
to
take
a
vote
today,
but
I
don't
want
to
cut
anyone
else
off
so
do
we
have
any
other
questions,
comments
or
concerns
about
this
topic
paper.
A
Seeing
none,
we
would
normally
then
move
a
vote
and
using
the
options
listed
there
on
the
last
page,
number
one
is
to
accept
the
proposal,
as
suggested
by
the
requester
number
two
is
to
assign
working
group
tasks
to
research.
The
topic
further
and
present
findings
to
the
ach
working
groups
number
three
would
to
be
make
no
changes
at
this
time
and
then
you
can
always
suggest
a
number
four
for.
C
A
C
A
A
Okay,
we
will
close
that
agenda
item
and
move
on
to
agenda
item
nine
presentation
on
the
activities
of
the
nevada,
offense
code
working
group,
as
appointed
by
the
2017-2018
subcommittee
on
criminal
justice,
information
sharing,
and
we
have
judy
christensen
with
the
records,
communications
and
compliance
division
in
the
department
of
public
safety,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
noc
or
the
nevada
offense
code
working
group
here
to
present
this
topic
for
us,
ms
christensen,
whenever
you're
ready,
you
can
unmute
and
begin.
Thank
you.
E
Hi
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
subcommittee,
my
name
is
judy
christensen,
I'm
the
manager
of
the
criminal
records
unit
in
the
nevada
defense
code
unit,
and
I'm
here
today
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
knock
working
group.
I'm
going
to
try
to
get
my
video
going
there
we
go
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
put
up
my
presentation
for
everybody
today.
Hopefully
this.
E
Working
group
was
created
in
2018
by
the
subcommittee
on
criminal
justice
information
sharing.
The
purpose
is
to
represent
the
needs
of
the
criminal
justice
community
for
the
for
criminal
offense
related
items
and
to
collaborate,
collaboratively
review
and
make
recommendations
to
policies
and
procedures
of
the
nevada
offense
code
unit.
E
E
E
E
E
A
A
A
We
could
consider
adding
into
our
report
to
the
ach
regarding
the
amendment
of
statutes
specific
to
these
challenges
that
the
knock
unit
faces
with
regard
to
offenses
and
retainable
offenses.
So
I'll
probably
reference
this
again
when
we
get
to
that
agenda
item
a
little
bit
later.
With
that
said,
are
there
any
comments,
questions
suggestions.
A
Nope,
okay,
thank
you.
Miss
christensen
again.
I
appreciate
your
time
today.
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna
close
thank
you.
I'm
gonna
close
out
this
agenda
item
and
we
will
go
to
agenda
item
10,
discussion
and
possible
appointment
of
working
groups
to
consider
specific
issues
related
to
criminal
justice
information
sharing.
A
This
is
really
when
our
division
requires
some
input:
participation,
feedback,
testing,
training
like
a
train.
The
trainer
scenario
by
utilizing
the
northern
and
southern
working
groups
to
do
these
things,
so
I,
as
the
chair
currently
of
the
subcommittee,
would
probably
task
the
northern
and
southern
working
groups
with
assisting
the
insidious,
modernization
program,
management
office
and
all
of
its
staff.
With
the
efforts
surrounding
the
modernization
of
our
system.
A
They
also
will
be
reviewing
forthcoming
topic
papers,
discussing
criminal
justice
information
sharing
in
nevada
and
providing
recommendations
on
potential
improvements
at
the
next
meeting,
which
could
also
include
recommendations
to
the
acha
in
our
report,
when
we
present
that
in
november,
based
on
the
tasks
that
will
be
assigned
to
these
working
groups,
do
any
of
the
members
have
suggestions
on
membership
of
these
working
groups?
Who
do
you
feel
would
be
most
viable
for
serving
on
the
northern
and
southern
working
groups?
Any
suggestions.
A
So
I'll
give
a
little
bit
more
background
for
ease
of
hopefully
coming
up
with.
Some
suggestions
is
previously
it.
What
the
membership
of
the
northern
and
southern
working
groups
were
made
up
of
our
terminal
agency,
coordinators
and
assistant
terminal
agency
coordinators
within
our
criminal
justice
agencies
that
utilize,
our
state
and
federal
and
inlets
systems
for
the
purposes
of
criminal
justice
missions,
and
then
again,
as
mr
olmsted
stated,
we
utilize
civil
agencies
for
input
and
feedback
on
the
civil
use
of
criminal
justice
data.
A
B
I'm
sure
yes,
although
I
don't
have
a
specific
names
in
in
mind,
I
do
think
that
we
certainly
need
to
have
the
a
combination
of
tax
atax
in
there
they're
the
best
people
that
should
have
the
most
knowledge
about
the
systems
in
both
civil
and
the
criminal
side.
But
as
well
as,
although
dps
will
have
some
I.t
support
there.
I
think
that
some
of
those
agencies,
whether
it
be
washoe
or
clark
county,
could
put
in
some
I.t
resources
that
would
help
get
us
perspective
from
the
agency
side
of
what
may.
A
A
A
They
are
responsible.
Usually
that
lasso
is
an
I.t
related
position.
Within
the
agency.
We
can
send
out
a
mass
email
to
all
of
those
users
and
also
to
some
of
our
civil
account
holders
as
well,
to
request
some
volunteers
for
membership
to
sit
on
the
northern
and
southern
working
groups.
Would
you
prefer
that
I
just
do
that.
B
H
H
Not
petty,
but
I
feel
like
a
small
voice,
saying
golly:
if
we
don't
get
better
civil
access
to
criminal
history
record
information,
you
know
people
can't
get
licensed.
People
can't
go
to
work.
Those
those
those
arguments,
sound
small
to
me
when
the
police
officer
and
the
district
attorney
the
public
defender
can
get
access
to
the
system.
H
Especially
when
we'll
talk
about
it.
The
next
agenda
item
user
state
laws,
the
governor-
could
probably
finding
an
emergency
way
of
those
state
laws,
but
that
wouldn't
waive
the
accessibility
of
the
police
officers
in
the
field.
So
I
feel
like
I'm
just
here
to
help
as
they
say,
but
if
you
think
a
civil
representative
would
would
aid
a
group
north
group,
south
heck
yeah,
I'm
in
I'm
in
the
north,
and
if
you
want
somebody
from
civil
in
the
south,
it's
a
small
world.
H
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
really
appreciate
that
and
yes,
you
would
be
very
helpful,
so
I
will
mark
you
down
as
a
member
of
the
northern
working
group,
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
ask
staff
to
send
out
I'll
draft
a
request
for
volunteers
to
be
sent
to
the
tax,
a
tax,
the
lassos,
the
local
agency
security
officers,
which
is
normally
I.t
and
then
some
of
our
civil
account
holders
as
well
to
request
volunteers
to
sit
on
both
the
northern
and
the
southern
and
in
the
meantime,
mr
olmstead.
H
A
A
G
Yes,
madam
chair,
this
is
jennifer
noble.
I'm
sorry
would
it
be
possible
for
the
members
to
be
cc'd
on
that
email
that
you
described
my
issue
here
is
that
I
can
think
of
several
folks
in
my
office
that
might
be
able
to
contribute,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
their
availability
is.
So
I'd
like
to
sort
of
follow
the
correspondence
that
sent
out
and
then
maybe
check
in
with
them
in
terms
of
their
service
to
the
committee.
A
B
Chair,
yes,
this
is
heather
flasky,
hi,
hello.
So
on
this
item,
I'm
still
the
chair
of
the
southern
working
group.
As
far
as
I
know,
so
is
there
anything
that
you
want
me
to
do
on
my
side?
I
know
we
have
lost
a
few
members
this
year,
so
we're
desperately
in
need
of
some
additional
members.
But
if
there's
something
that
you
would
like
me
to
do,
I'm
perfectly
happy
to
do
that.
A
A
B
A
C
So,
for
example,
right
now
clark
county
in
the
district
court
has
a
thousand
specialty
court
participants
when
they
either
complete
the
treatment.
The
best
definition
of
recidivism
is
a
return
to
the
criminal
justice
system
and
the
best
way
to
measure
that
is
to
be
able
to
do
a
backgrounds
to
measure
how
well
treatment
is
working
on
a
group
of
specialty
core
participants.
C
F
C
I
believe
the
legislature
requires
the
supreme
court
or
the
state
courts
to
report
on
recidivism,
but
it's
extraordinarily
difficult
because
it's
generally,
if
you
can
get
approval,
it's
it's
manual.
So
I'm
hoping
that
in
your
next
version
of
the
system,
we
can
somehow
find
an
integrated
relationship
from
the
justice
system
to
your
system.
To
on,
like
can
an
integration
for
research
on
recidivism.
A
A
All
right
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
to
agenda
item
11
presentation
on
the
nevada,
criminal
justice
information
system,
modernization
program.
We
have
with
us
today,
julie
ornelas,
with
the
records
communications
and
compliance
division
with
the
department
of
public
safety
as
the
program
administrator
for
the
modernization
effort.
To
present
this
to
you,
miss
oranelis
when
you're
ready,
unmute
and
go
ahead,
share
your
screen
and
begin.
I
Okay
good
afternoon,
can
you
see
me
there?
We
are
good
afternoon,
chair
mckay
and
members
of
the
subcommittee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
julie,
ornelas
and
I
am
the
program
administrator
for
the
institutions,
modernization
program
and
as
mindy
mckay,
our
chair,
mckay
formally
indicated.
I
work
for
the
nevada
department
of
public
safety
records,
communications
and
compliance
division.
I
I
H
I
I
So
the
nevada
criminal
justice
information
system
is
comprised
of
a
message:
switch
system
also
known
as
justice
link.
It's
the
central
highway
for
criminal
justice,
information
sharing
for
nevada's
337
criminal
justice
agencies
with
approximately
15
000
users
statewide.
In
addition
to
criminal
justice
agencies
nationwide,
the
system
is
used
to
obtain
criminal
justice,
information
for
criminal
investigations,
intelligence
arrests,
prosecution
sentencing,
record
seals,
parole,
probation
supervision
and
detention
centers.
I
I
We
have
a
department
of
motor
vehicle
interface,
a
registered
sex
offender,
parole
and
probation
ccws,
not
codes,
nevada,
offense
codes
that
you
heard
about
earlier
and
the
criminal
history
records.
We
also
access
through
our
switch,
the
national
hot
files
which
are
very
important
to
the
state.
So
it's
warrants
protection
orders,
dmv
records,
registered
sex
offender,
parole
and
probation
ccws.
I
We
can
also
access
stolen
vehicles,
guns
boats,
etc.
Securities,
gang
information,
terrorists,
criminal
history,
among
all
the
other
items
listed
there.
I
don't
want
to
you,
know,
death
by
slide.
Here
we
also
access
the
switch
very
critical
information
through,
what's
called
scope
again,
that's
the
las
vegas
shared
computer
operation
system.
We
get
a
lot
of
historical
details
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
in
our
system,
because
you
know
the
repository
wasn't
created
until
like
the
mid
80s.
So
they
have
a
lot
of
historical
details
that
we
we
don't
capture
so
very
valuable
there.
I
I
Valuable
one
of
the
other
really
critical
parts
of
our
business,
which
has
been
touched
on
a
little
bit
in
today's
discussions,
are
our
civil
background
applications
again.
We
we
support
our
civil
fingerprint
fingerprint-based
background
checks
that
are,
you
know,
they're
required
by
state
statute
or
federal
authority.
I
Therefore,
employment
licensing,
volunteer,
adoption
foster
care,
child
care.
Ccw
permits
just
a
few.
You
know
to
name
there
we
have
others,
we'd
have
to
go
on
and
on.
We
have
over
a
hundred
and
some
statutes
that
require
fingerprint
based
background
checks.
We
also
support
the
projects
of
the
brady
point
of
contact
firearm,
so
those
are
the
knicks
backgrounds.
I
So
the
firearm
background
checks
that
the
gun
dealers
that
right
now
they
call
in
and
do
backgrounds
for
purchases
redemptions
for
firearms,
so
again,
very
critical.
We
also
have
the
civil
name
check
for
employment
and
volunteer.
Those
are
backgrounds
that
are
required
by
statute
or
they
may
be
authorized
by
federal.
So
it's
a
system
that
we
have.
I
I
So,
on
the
left
hand,
side
we
have
the
the
justice
link
and
the
inlets
transactions
which
are
used
for
the
criminal
justice
side.
So
those
are
typically
again,
the
you
know:
criminal
history
queries
through
the
system,
dmv
all
the
different
things
that
I
listed
and
we
have
over
85
million
justice
link
transactions
in
2019
and
then
on.
Within
that
left-hand
box.
We
also
have
about
four
million
of
the
endless
transactions
which
is
a
sharing
or
someone
requesting
that
national
back
and
forth
of
that
sharing
of
information
again
very
critical.
I
On
the
right
hand,
side
is
our
civil
background
checks
process
and
I
have
those
broken
down
again.
This
is
2019
data.
It
increases
every
year
and
especially
when
we're
talking
the
point
of
contact
firearm
backgrounds,
those
have
just
gone
through
the
roof
since
cobid,
but
as
of
2019,
we
did
102
392
firearms
background
checks
and
in
the
middle
box,
that's
the
civil
fingerprint
background
checks
that
are
required
or
authorized
by
statute.
So
those
are
those
state
laws
again
or
federal
authorities.
I
I
I
So,
just
a
little
bit
about
the
modernization
and
overview
about
that,
so
we're
having
we're.
I
haven't
broken
down
into
two
categories,
so
there's
the
replacement
side
and
then
there's
some
enhancements
that
I
wanted
to
kind
of
talk
about,
so
the
replacement
of
several
complex
criminal
justice
systems.
So
again
the
switch
the
message
switch
as
we
call
it
the
hot
files
that
we
talked
about,
the
computerized
criminal
history
system,
which
is
a
little
which
is
where
those
disposition
codes
and
that
allison
presented
on
you
know
be
contained
within
that
system.
I
So
all
those
are
gonna
be
new
modules,
with
a
lot
of
valuable
enhancements
that
we
currently
do
not
have
the
enhancements
and
functionality
would
be
we're
going
to
implement
a
new
enterprise
content
management
system
right
now
everything
we
do
is
very
manual
a
lot
of
paper,
pushing
back
and
forth.
You
know,
through
the
different
processes
internally
and
also
to
our
customers,
we're
gonna
be
be
able
to
scan.
You
know.
I
Documents
coming
in
can
be
attached
to
files
and
and
build
that
kind
of
repository
of
information,
for
example
like
on
a
a
gun
background.
Information
coming
in
that
on
research
will
be
able
to
attach,
you
know,
character,
recognition
and
attach
to
the
file.
So
those
are
some
of
the
wonderful
things
that
the
content
management
will
bring.
We're
also
going
to
have
a
new
portal
to
improve
efficiency
and
effectiveness
for
our
civil
and
criminal
justice
partners
on
the
civil
side.
I
One
of
the
things
that
that
we
are
really
really
excited
about
for
the
fingerprint
side
is
right.
Now
we
have
to
manually
compare
a
fingerprint.
You
know
we
take
the
fingerprint
results
that
are
identical
and
we
run
a
response
based
on
that
identification,
and
we
also
get
that
information
from
the
fbi
and
everything
has
to
be
manually,
matched
and
triple,
and
you
know
partner,
verified
and
then
it's
mailed
out
to
our
customers
for
their
background
checks.
I
It's
time
saver,
our
our
our
ability
to
meet
those
mandates
and
state
law
changes
or
new
laws
are
going
to
be
a
lot
quicker
than
what
we
can
do
right
now.
So
that's
really
going
to
be
exciting,
so
I
wanted
to
give
a
little
bit
more
of
an
efficiency
example.
I
touched
a
little
bit
on
the
civil
fingerprint
background
checks
and
again
the
the
processing
of
the
manual
responses
and
mailing,
which
would
save
you
know.
I
We
won't
have
that
anymore,
we'll
save
on
time
and
we
will
save
on
like
postage
and
and
that
type
of
thing.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
another
example
of
an
efficiency
for
the
brady
point
of
contact
firearm,
which
is
the
gun
dealers
right
now,
it's
like
a
call
center.
We
have
a
call
center
structure,
the
calls
come
in.
I
I
So,
what's
exciting
about
our
future
process
is
rather
than
the
gun
dealers
actually
sitting
on
the
telephone
kind
of
like
our
civil
fingerprint
processors.
These
guys
can
go
ahead
and
log
into
the
portal
they
can
enter
their
background
check
requests
for
their.
You
know
their
their
patrons
that
want
to
purchase
or
redeem
a
firearm,
and
they
can
go
in
and
enter
all
that
information
into
the
portal.
I
We
have
that
what's
called
a
lights
out
process,
so
what
that
would
do
is
it
would
within
just
seconds
they
would
return
that
back
to
the
gun
dealer
and
they
would
see
a
proceed
for
that
individual
and
they'd
be
in
and
out
of
the
store
in
no
time
and
in
and
again
they'll
get
those
responses
right
back
through
this
portal,
rather
than
having
to
sit
on
the
phone
and
have
somebody
do
the
transaction
and
then
you
know
give
them
those
results.
So
again,
we're
very
excited
about
that
for
our
customers,
but
also
internally.
I
Some
of
the
risks
of
doing
nothing
with
the
current
system
that
we
have
this
system
is,
is
getting
very
old
and
deprecated,
but,
more
importantly,
norsoff
consulting
they're,
our
current
vendor,
and
they
provide
the
proprietary
in
sieges
system.
So
it's
their
code
and
they
notified
us
two
years
ago
of
their
intent
to
retire
within
the
two
to
five
years.
So
we
are
really
on
borrowed
time.
I
We've
looked
at
other
options.
You
know
for
someone
to
take
over
this,
this
code
and
system,
but
again
it's
their
code.
It's
a
it's
definitely
special
to
them,
and
portions
of
that
code
are
nearing
end
of
life
and
will
become
unsupported
eats,
which
is
our
current
enterprise
information
technology
services.
You
know,
they're
not
really
in
a
position
to
support
or
maintain
our
our
the
proprietary
code
base.
So
we've
looked
at
that
we've
had
them
analyze
it.
I
I
for
those
of
you
that
may
have
been
here
during
that
time
and
were
using
our
system
during
that
time.
The
upgrade
which
was
supposed
to
be
a
very
simple
thing,
resulted
in
hundreds
of
defects
once
we
deployed
it
and
five
weeks
of
outages
and
we
were
not
able
to
roll
it
back
once
we
rolled
it
out,
we
had
to
work
through
all
the
issues.
I
It
was
very
frustrating
for
our
customers
and
for
us
internally.
So
again,
if
we
do
nothing
we'll
be,
gps
will
fall
behind
in
our
ability
to
meet
federal
and
state
mandates
and
its
customers
needs
again.
We
have
an
ever
and
changing
environment.
You
know
we're
not
a
stagnant,
it's
always
fluid.
There's,
always
state
laws
that
change
and
add
new.
I
You
know
new
background
types
or
you
know
new
transaction
types
or
there's
federal
requirements
that
the
fbi
sends
our
way
or
nics
and
certain
types
of
of
functionality
that
we
need
to
implement,
and
it's
it's
not
easy
to
do
in
our
current
system.
So,
with
the
the
the
ability
to
configure
more
easily
we'll
in
our
new
system
will
make
it
a
you
know
a
little
bit
less
painful.
G
I
The
state
of
nevada
will
become
non-compliant
with
the
presidential
fix
nix
act
again,
there's
a
federal
mandate
that
states
improve
on
information
sharing
for
for
the
knicks
backgrounds,
the
brady
backgrounds,
and
so
you
know
our
our
ability
to
have
a
better
technology
to
do
that,
sharing
and
access
to
better
information.
It
all
has
to
come
through
this
modernization.
I
So
a
little
bit
more
information
on
the
risks
again,
if
we
do
nothing,
it's
a
high
risk
of
failure
with
catastrophic
catastrophic
consequences
when
norsoff
retires
in
three
years
or
less
the
system
may
be
shut
down.
You
know
again,
we
don't
own
that
we
we
don't
own
that
system.
It
is
their
system
and
we
don't
have
any
other
alternatives
that
we've
been
able
to
identify.
I
If
the
state's
left
without
a
system,
the
entire
nation
will
be
left
in
the
dark
and
unable
to
perform
the
responsibilities
of
their
job
or
meet
mandates.
It's
a
huge
officer
in
public
safety.
Again
we
share
and
pass
information
back
and
forth
with
other
states
daily.
You
saw
the
number
of
transactions
along
with
our
internal.
You
know
processes
through
sharing
of
of
criminal
history
internally
to
this
state.
I
In
the
meantime,
the
system
could
become
end
of
life
and
thus
unsupported,
and
we
would
have
no
way
to
update
the
system
and
meet
the
federal
mandates
or
state
statute
requirements.
The
state
could
experience
a
full
or
partial
system
failure
without
regular
maintenance.
Again
there
wouldn't
be
anybody
to
maintain
it.
I
You
know,
even
if
we
were
to
by
some
luck,
you
know
get
our
hands,
you
know
on
it
or
if
we
tried
to
purchase
it,
there's
just
nobody
to
maintain
it,
and
if
the
state
experienced
a
full
or
partial
system
failure,
the
state
criminal
justice
agencies
will
have
no
means
to
search
the
system
to
obtain
information
for
those
criminal
investigations.
Again:
intelligence
arrest,
prosecution.
I
I
You
know,
as
you
can
imagine,
without
having
you
know,
a
fingerprint
based
background
check
on
someone
that
is
carrying
you
know
in
a
nursing
facility.
You
know
hospital.
If
we
haven't
backgrounded
those
individuals
or
you
know,
for
adoption
or
foster
having
access
to
those
vulnerable
populations
again,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
process
any
of
those
fingerprint
based
background
checks.
Without
the
system.
I
Point
of
contact
firearms
same
thing,
all
the
files
that
we
hit
to
complete
those
backgrounds
to
make
those
determinations.
You
know
for
the
safety
of
the
public
that
would
no
longer
exist.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
it.
Our
name-based
background
tax,
as
required
by
nrs
for
employment
and
volunteer.
We
would
not
be
able
to
complete
those
again.
I
Those
are
a
lot
of
times
done
for,
like
our
hotel,
like
our
hotels,
like
casinos
and
hotels
and
valet
parking,
those
types
of
things,
they're
taking
your
vehicles,
you
know
and
parking
your
cars,
and
so
they
do
those
name-based
background
checks.
You
know
to
know
that
you're
you're
you're
in
safe
hands,
so
those
would
be
out
the
window,
our
sex
offender
registrations
for
state
and
fbi.
I
mean
we
do
a
lot
of
research
to
to
determine.
I
I
I
I
I
It
equates
out
to
22
million
787
815,
and
these
are
the
projected
amounts.
You
know
that
we've
projected
out
for
full
implementation
and
then
again,
23
to
25,
is
a
little
over
another
20
million.
So
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit.
This
last
slide
is
really
a
very
important
point
and
I
touched
on
it
a
little
bit
of
what
happened
to
us
in
2017..
I
I
I
A
H
H
B
H
Hear
40
million
dollars
we
don't
want
to
screw
anything
up.
We
don't
want
to
say
well,
it's
40
million
dollars
for
the
good
stuff,
but
yeah
the
civil
stuff
on
there
I'd
be
42
43..
So
I
don't
want
to
raise
on
behalf
of
the
state
nevada.
As
a
concerned
citizen,
I
don't
want
to
raise
the
funding
amount.
H
H
H
Members
of
this
subcommittee
have
power.
We
have
representation,
we
know
what's
going
on.
We
can
make
a
good
pitch
a
committee
that
wants
money.
That
would
give
us
money
and
if
you
think
it's
worth
mentioning
to
anybody
at
all
about
it
might
not
be
the
strongest
argument,
but
it
would
be
a
decent
argument
that
the
civil
functions
of
criminal
history
record
information,
the
sieges
civil,
is
important.
I'd
be
happy
to
make
a
presentation
to
anybody.
H
I
I
A
That's
okay,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
jump
in,
and
so
mr
olmstead,
with
respect
to
your
comment
regarding
how
people
can
support
this
effort,
it
could
look
like,
for
example,
letters
of
support
to
the
money
committees
during
session.
It
could
look
like
letters
of
support
to
our
chain
of
command
here
at
the
department
of
public
safety,
leading
all
the
way
up
to
the
governor's
office.
A
It
could
look
like
public
comment
during
interim
finance
committees.
We
are
required
to
provide
a
letter
of
intent
every
quarter
to
the
ifc
regarding
the
status
of
the
modernization
effort,
which
includes
not
only
what's
being
worked
on,
but
whether
we're
in
scope
on
time
within
the
budget.
So
it
includes
all
of
that
information
every
quarter
at
the
ifc
we
did
just
meet
with
the
ifc
in
august,
with
the
quarter
that
covered
july
through
september.
A
A
We
were
authorized
in
2019
seven
million
to
spend
out
of
our
reserves
and
we
were
appropriated,
seven
million
in
senate
bill
514
out
of
general
fund,
so
that's
14
million
right
there
and
then
what
we
presented
today
is
an
additional
40
million.
On
top
of
that,
and
of
course,
anything
I.t,
there
could
always
be
unknowns
that
we
weren't
prepared,
for
that
would
cost
money
as
well.
A
So
I
hope
that
kind
of
clears
up
the
cost
of
it
and
the
different
numbers
that
you've
heard,
but
as
far
as
support
to
ensure
that
the
functionality
that
both
the
criminal
justice
agencies
would
like
to
see
as
well
as
our
civil
partners
would
like
to
see,
you
could
go
to
the
table
during
ifc.
You
could
go
to
the
table
during
session.
H
Sit
down
there
and
shut
up
so
it'll
go
higher
than
my
pay
grade.
To
say,
oh
said,
I
need
you
to
do
this.
This
is
a
good
argument.
This
is
what
we
want
you
to
say
and
I'll
do
it.
But
if
it's
not
a
good
argument,
even
though
I
think
it's
swell
no
worries
sit
down,
shut
up
and
let
us
do
our
job
and
don't
need
to
talk
and
I'd
be
happy
with
that.
A
A
D
Yes,
thank
you,
chairwoman.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
two
questions:
does
the
chart
with
the
estimated
cost
from
slide
11
does
that
include
any
savings
that
are
that
are
going
to
be
seen
from
reducing
a
call
center
or
any
of
these
other
roles
that
are,
it
sounds
like
are
done
in
person,
so
basically,
salary
savings
or
anything
like
that?
D
Does
that
chart
include
those
savings
and,
if
not,
that
might
be
really
helpful
to
have
that
information
to
show
you
know
not
only
that
it's
going
to
cost
money,
but
that
over
the
long
run
it
will
actually
save
some
some
funds
there.
So
that's
my
first
question
and
then
my
second
question
is:
I
would
just
be
curious
to
know
what
other
states
have
done
or
what
they're
doing
to
address
this
issue
as
well.
It
might
also
help
the
argument
that
that
it's
inevitable
it's
gonna
have
to
be
done
at
some
point.
I
So
julie
ornelas
for
the
record
we
have
done.
We
have
what
we
call
time,
studies
to
kind
of
baseline,
some
of
our
processes,
and
we
have
looked
at
some
of
those
savings
like
for
the
point
of
contact
firearms
background
unit.
You
know:
we've
looked
at
what
the
phone
bill
cost
us
just
to
you
know
man
that
800,
you
know
800
call
center
because
we
they
come
in
on
an
800
line
and
then
we've
looked
at.
I
You
know
the
time
savings
for
the
staff
members,
but
for
us
to
to
compile
it
fully,
we
would
need
to
look
at
the
savings
all
the
way
across
and
come
up
with
that
number
and
we
have
not.
We
have
not
been
able
to
do
that
yet,
but
that's
a
very
good
suggestion,
at
least
to
to
present
that
you
know
as
we're
going
forward
with
the
money
request.
I
You
know
their
experience,
you
know
if
it
was
a
good,
you
know
good
experience
and
if
the
services
provided
what
they
were
looking
for,
and
we
got
no
indication
that
anybody
was
unhappy
they
were,
they
were
very
happy
with
the
the
improvements
that
they
received
from
like
the
portal
and
and
some
of
the
different
modules
and
the
the
configurability
based
on
old
hard-coded
systems,
so
yeah.
This
is
the
way
that
a
lot
of
states
are
going.
So
we
did
our
homework
through.
You
know
some
of
those
front-end
processes.
G
A
C
I
So
the
juilliard
analyst
for
the
record,
so
we
did
do
an
rfp,
a
very
extensive
one
for
our
technical
side,
which
is
you
know
our
infrastructure
and
all
that
and
our
functionality
through
the
different.
You
know
again
the
portal
and
the
different
modules
and
a
lot
of
it
is
basically
off
the
shelf.
We
call
it,
you
know
cots
custom
off
the
shelf
for
god's
government
off
the
shelf,
so,
for
example,
one
of
the
states
we
got
a
we.
I
We
basically
are
going
to
use
some
of
their
code
that
they
use
because
again
firearms
background
checks,
their
firearms
background
checks.
When
we
have
to
follow
the
brady
law,
it's
not
something
that
we're
reinventing
the
wheel.
So
some
of
these
states
have
already
you
know,
given
us
either
part
of
their
code
that
they're
using-
and
we
we're
just
basically
implementing
that
through
our
modernization.
I
I
Other
states
do
those
we're
not
the
only
ones
that
do
them,
we're
not
the
only
states
that
use
the
message
switch
that
we're
going
with
other
states
use
that
message
switch
the
same
message
switch
to
to
communicate
both
internally
with
their
state
for
public
and
officer
safety,
and
also
you
know
through
endless.
So
none
of
this
is
like
brand
new
technology.
I
I
Well,
this
the
criminal
modernization
is
comprised
of
multiple
again
the
switch,
the
cch
all
the
civil
applications,
they're
all
modules
or
applications
or
databases
that
we're
replacing
they're
all
becoming
aged,
and
they
they
need
to
be,
you
know,
replaced
so
there.
There
are
states
that
have
done
every
single
one
that
we're
doing,
and
then
some
of
the
states
have
done.
You
know
some
have
done
the
civil
side
and
another
state
has
done
this.
I
Our
message
switch
is
supposed
to
be
just
a
highway
of
information.
That's
all
it's
supposed
to
do
is
share
information.
Our
current
vendor
actually
coded
applications
inside
of
it,
so
all
of
our
civil
applications
are
intertwined
inside
of
it.
So
it's
not
like
we
can
just
pull
that
application
out
and
plop
it
into
to
talk
to
this
new
switch.
This
this
code
is
like
a
spaghetti
bowl
again
it
is
their
proprietary
code,
and
so
we
are.
I
We
are
basically
going
with
a
decoupled
approach
where
each
application,
our
module,
the
civil
side,
the
cch
and
the
switch-
are
all
going
to
be
standalone
talking
to
each
other
and
passing
information
back
and
forth.
So
there's
not
the
risk
that
we
have
now
with
this
intertwined
system
with
our
new
approach.
If
that
makes
sense.
A
B
I
I
B
I
C
I
Julie
ornelas
for
the
record,
so
I
don't
have
the
schedule
right
in
front
of
me.
I
mean
the
full
implementation
is
going
to
be.
You
know
we're
looking
at
2024
for
full
implementation
as
far
as
where
the
actual
switch
lives
and
that
right
now
we're
doing
all
the
infrastructure-
and
you
know
laying
the
circuits
and
that
type
of
thing.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
want
to
share
is
we
understand
the
lift
it's
going
to
be
on.
I
You
know
our
criminal
justice
partners
for
their
connections
and
redoing
connections
and
based
on
what
I've
understood
from
our
technical
team
as
the
unisys,
who
is
our
service
provider,
they
do
have
a
way
to
take
your
current
connection
and
do
some
translation
on
our
side,
where
you
don't
have
to
change
your,
how
you're
connecting
right.
Now
you
could
build
in
your
budget
how
you
know
to
move
yourself
over
to
you
know
a
more
upgraded
connection
in
the
future.
But
again
we
understand
that
you
know
not.
I
All
criminal
justice
partners
have
the
ability
you
know
to
to
make
that
transition
right
away,
and
so
we'll
start
doing
we're
actually
starting
our
outreach.
This
month
we're
doing
launch
letters
and
then
we're
gonna
start
working
with
all
the
different
criminal
justice
agencies
and
change.
You
know:
change
change,
ambassadors
and
rick.
You
guys
will
definitely
be
part
of
our.
I
A
Hearing
nothing
else,
I
would
just
suggest
you
keep
this
in
the
back
of
your
mind,
when
we
get
to
agenda
item
13.,
we
do
only
have
four
agenda
items.
Left
we've
been
at
this
for
two
hours,
so
I'm
gonna
give
us
a
break.
It
is
currently
three
o'clock
and
miss
ornelas.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation
and
being
available
today
and
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
give
us
a
break
and
be
back
at
3
10
p.m.
Please.
A
A
A
Thank
you,
you're
welcome,
hey,
I
think.
If
we've
got
everyone
back,
we
can
move
forward.
Next
agenda
item
is
12..
It's
the
presentation
on
the
implementation
of
the
national
incident-based
reporting
system,
also
known
as
neighbors.
It
is
being
presented
today
by
anya
hickox,
with
the
records,
communications
and
compliance
division
with
public
safety.
Ms
hickox,
if
you
are
ready,
you
can
unmute
and
go
ahead
with
your.
J
Presentation
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
the
members
of
the
subcommittee,
my
name
is
anya
hickox
and
I
am
a
special
services
manager
with
the
department
of
public
safety
records,
communication
and
compliance
division.
Let
me
I'll
be
presenting
you
information
about
neighbors.
Let
me
share
my
screen.
J
J
The
first
attempts
to
modernize
the
collection
of
crime
data
statistics
took
place
in
the
1980s
and
for
many
years,
states
were
slowly
transitioning
from
summer
reporting
system,
srs
for
short
to
nivers,
which
is
national,
incident-based
reporting
system.
However,
that
transition
was
taking
place
at
much
slower
pace
as
anticipated.
J
J
The
significant
limitation
was
that
the
summary
format
functioned
based
on
the
hierarchy
rule,
which
meant
that
only
the
most
severe
crime
was
reported,
and
here
we
can
see
the
difference
between
neighbors
and
srs.
So
neighbors
is
incident
focused.
It
reports
all
offenses
within
an
incident
where
srs
is
often
focused
and,
as
I
mentioned,
only
reports
the
most
severe
crime
for
neighbors.
There
is
no
chiropractor
srs.
There
is
a
cherokee
rule
also
for
neighbors.
J
J
It
is
important
to
note
that
the
transition
to
neighbors
may
and
most
likely
will
appear
to
increase
crime
rate.
The
reason
for
that
is,
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
hierarchy
rule
is
no
longer
applies,
and
therefore
there
will
be
more
incidents
and
more
offenses.
Excuse
me
reported
for
each
incident.
J
J
So
this
example
shows
that
neighbors
gives
us
more
information,
a
fuller
picture
of
reality,
but
also
may
appear
as
there's.
The
crime
rate
is
higher,
so
the
ucr
program
in
nevada
is
working
in
partnerships
with
46
agencies,
the
list
of
agencies-
you
can
see
in
front
of
you
and
it
consists
of
all
small
to
medium
to
very
large
agencies.
J
Reporting
so
the
fbi
partnered,
with
the
bureau
of
justice
statistics
bjs
to
assist
with
grant
funds
to
many
mediate,
some
of
the
financial
burdens
of
the
transition.
As
a
result,
dps
was
awarded
a
ncsx
grant
to
receive
neighbors
certification
for
the
state
of
nevada
and
to
assist
agencies
in
their
tradition.
J
J
It's
worth
mentioning
over
here
that
we
have
three
websites
operating
currently
a
test
website
where
agencies
can
submit
any
test
files,
including
test
plan.
So
a
test
site
is
a
place
where
agencies
can
upload
their
initial
files
check
for
any
errors,
any
warnings,
then
they
can
correct
them
and
re-upload
the
file
with
the
corrected
version.
J
We
also
have
a
certification
site
right
now
that
is
operational
during
certification
per
process
and
where
agencies
can
upload
their
corrected
files
and
use
them.
As
certification
data-
and
we
also
have
a
production
site,
production
site
is
where
the
agencies
submit
their
files
after
they
receive
certification.
J
J
J
Currently,
agencies
who
report
their
crime
data
via
incident
errors
are
reno,
tahoe,
airport
and
washa
county
school
district.
That
is
an
option.
Also
incident
editor
is
an
option
also
for
the
agencies.
They're
having
difficulties
transitioning
before
the
deadline
of
january
january,
1
2021
those
agencies
need
would
still
need
to
be
trained
on
how
to
input
data
using
incident
editor,
but
that
is
an
option
as
well
to
temporary,
submit
neighbors
data.
J
J
J
That
concludes
my
presentation.
We,
the
ucr
team,
is
excited
for
this
transition
and
and
what
it
brings
to
the
table
in
terms
of
functionality
and
and
accuracy
on
data,
and
if
you
have
any
questions
I'll
be
happy
to
answer.
If
you
have
any
questions
later,
we
can
always
be
reached
at
our
ucr
email
that,
hopefully
you
can
see
right
now
on
the
screen.
A
A
A
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair
okay,
and
we
will
move
to
agenda
item
13,
discussion
of
technical
and
operational
issues
related
to
the
nevada,
criminal
justice,
information
system,
the
capabilities
of
ncgis
and
the
development
of
new
technologies
and
possible
direction
to
staff.
To
prepare
a
report
of
this
of
the
subcommittee
on
criminal
justice
information
sharing
to
be
submitted
to
the
advisory
commission
on
the
administration
of
justice.
A
A
A
Mr
grierson,
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
your
suggested
research
for
specialty
courts
and
recidivism
suggest
improved
criminal
justice.
Information
sharing
with
integration
or
integrated
relationships
is
how
you
put
it
between
the
nc
just
the
state
system
here
in
my
division
and
the
criminal
justice
agencies
to
attempt
to
capture
and
report
data
that
would
improve
in
providing
recidivism
information.
Is
that
correct.
G
A
G
Yes,
madam
chair,
thank
you.
I
just
I
mean
that
if
that's
information
that
the
ach
wants
tracked-
which
that
has
been
my
impression
for
some
time
and
with
our
existing
criminal
justice
information
software-
that
we
use
we're
able
to
track
it
but
yeah,
it's
the
whole
issue
of
interface.
How
do
we
communicate
that
to
the
system
that's
being
used
by
nevada.
A
A
Don't
quote
me
on
that,
but
having
multiple
interfaces
becomes
very
difficult
to
manage
and
there
has
to
be
a
standard
tech,
spec,
techno
technological
specification
by
which
each
system
would
have
to
conform
with
in
order
to
accurately
transmit
the
proper
data
which
was
going
to
be
one
of
my
suggestions
in
my
spiel
when
we
get
there.
So
I
can
say
it
again
when
I
get
to
my
suggestions
regarding
having
a
statewide
tech
spec
for
the
conformity
and
ease
of
information
sharing.
A
I
Julia
arnellis
for
the
record,
so
right
now,
when
you're
talking
about
api,
are
you
talking
about
technical
specifications?
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that.
That's
the
word!
I've
ever
apis.
I've
not
really
heard
of
that.
We
call
them
tech
specs,
but
you
know
right
now
all
of
the
criminal
justice
agencies,
the
that
the
system
you
know
communicates
with.
You
know
they
come
in
and
communicate
in
various
ways.
I
A
I
You
know
if
your
connection
needed
to
come
and
just
talk
to
the
cch
and
dispositions
or
court
information,
then
you
would
talk
through
the
switch,
would
be
that
one
api,
or
can
you
know
technical
specification,
it
would
go,
it
would
go
to
the
switch
it.
The
switch
would
go
out
and
communicate
with
the
cch
either
get
or
get
the
information
or
receive
information,
and
then
give
something
back
through
that
one
channel,
so
you
wouldn't
have
multiple
interfaces
with
each
application.
If
that
makes
sense,
the
switch
is
the
talking
point.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
mindy.
This
is
rick,
mr
gerson.
Just
to
let
you
know
the
aoc
currently
has
a
system.
We
call
macgyjs,
but
you
can
call
it
anything.
You
want
it's
a
data,
interchange
system
that
uses
documents,
xml
documents
to
exchange
information
with
the
repository
with
dmv,
with
multiple
courts
with
multiple
agencies
across
the
state.
C
C
C
Yeah,
I
didn't
think
so,
so
we
would
have
to
use
some
sort
of
interface,
some
sort
of
middleware
system
that
could
move
that
data
from
your
system
into
any
other
system,
and
it
is
difficult
within
the
state
because
we
do
have
so
many
different,
disparate
case
management
systems
in
the
courts.
There's
like
20
different
systems
by
itself
and
we
get
more
every
month.
So
if
we
could
get
as
we
as
we
move
forward
a
standard
document
or
specification
on
what
has
to
be
moved,
that's
the
easy
way
to
do
it,
but
so
steve.
C
A
A
We
lack
through
outreach
and
education.
Over
the
years,
we've
learned
that
a
lot
of
agencies
and
staff
within
the
agencies
lack
education
as
to
the
criminal
justice
system
and
its
processes,
specifically
how
one
agency
might
impact
other
agencies
ability
to
perform
their
responsibilities,
because
we
do
all
impact
each
other.
A
Would
that
be
helpful
if
we
could
come
up
with
collectively
a
tech
spec
that
we
can
all
agree
on?
That
can
then
be
provided
that
everybody
is
required
to
follow
when,
when
either
enhancing
their
systems,
replacing
their
systems
modernizing
our
systems
that
might
help,
and
that
also
goes
along
with
the
statute
nrs176.0125
sub
3.
A
C
Mindy
this
is
rick
stephanie.
We
can
go
a
long
way
if
we
can
get
standardized
data
throughout
the
whole
justice
community.
You
know
I
have
some
great
stats
people
that
work
with
us.
That
would
love
to
have
input
into
this
into
that.
So,
if
you
would
like
me
to
put
you
in
touch
with
them,
I
would
more
be
more
than
happy
to.
A
I
appreciate
that
what
about
because
I
have
as
the
chair
of
the
subcommittee
the
chair
has
the
ability
to
appoint
working
groups.
We
can
have
multiple
working
groups.
What
about
appointing
a
working
group
can
conform
or
made
up
of
agency
representatives
that
are
willing
and
pertinent
to
the
feedback
and
the
research
on
creating
tech
specs
for
statewide
conformity?
I
Miss
mckay-
this
is
julie
ornelas
for
the
record.
Can
I
can,
I
add
some
comment
here
sure,
so
what
I
would
like
to
just
share
a
little
bit
real,
quick
and
and
and
then
and
then
say
something
that
pertains
to
the
mod.
It
goes
back
to
the
neighbors
presentation
that
miss
hickox,
provided
we
had
a
really
manual
process
with
that
and
all
of
our
law
enforcement
agencies
that
submit
crime
statistics
used
to
submit
manually
and
they
all
have
different
records
management
systems.
I
mean
across
the
state.
I
I
If
we
were
to
create
something
like
that,
it
would
definitely
help
to
have
a
working
group
that
comes
from
you
know
across
the
different
types
of
entities
coming
together
to
agree
on
that
standard
to
create
that
tech
spec.
So
maybe
through
the
modernization
we
can
work
together.
You
know
to
get
that
data,
not
only
in
real
time,
as
ms
noble
says,
you
know,
but
synchronize
it
as
changes
happen.
I
A
B
How
many
is
tom,
nelson?
I
think
that
might
be
a
good
idea,
because
I
mean,
if
you
think
about
it.
This
charter
really
expires
in
three
months.
So
how
much
time-wise
do
we
have
an
opportunity
and
capacity
to
accomplish
and
just
that
to
have
a
report
to
the
acha
with
presentation,
so
they
can
accept
it
in
their
public
meeting
and
then
incorporate
that
into
whatever
their
final
report
is
to
the
legislature.
B
Right
so
we
have
time
for
the
committees
to
the
subcommittees
to
meet
or
excuse
me
the
working
groups
to
meet.
Then
we
have
to
agendize
their
reports
right
back
to
the
committee
as
a
whole
to
accept
them
at
a
public
meeting.
Then
it
has
to
go
on
the
acha's
agenda
to
be
accepted
at
their
public
meeting,
blah
blah
blah.
So
you
know
we
really
don't
have
three
months
to
to
accomplish
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot.
C
Yeah
and
mindy
this
is
rick,
I
kind
of
agree.
I
think
this
idea
of
data
standardization
across
everything
is
a
much
bigger
project
than
just
a
three-month
effort.
I
think
it's
gonna
take
because
you're
gonna
have
to
get
everybody
together
to
do
this
and
that
that's
not
gonna,
be
it
will
be
accomplished
in
three
months
so,
but
it's
a
good
thing
to
look
forward
to
to
go
forward
so.
A
So
I
appreciate
the
concern,
but
I
think
where
I
was
going,
was
it's
just
a
recommendation
to
the
ach
that
we
we,
as
a
membership
of
the
subcommittee,
have
agreed
that
attack
a
statewide
tech?
Spec
would
be
helpful.
Do
they
agree
with
that
and
if
they
do
as
part
of
their
rec
a
recommendation
to
the
ach?
The
acha
agrees
with
that.
A
Then.
At
that
point,
I,
as
the
chair
of
the
subcommittee,
can
either
task
the
existing
working
groups
with
the
discussion
and
draft
of
a
technical,
statewide
technical
spec.
However
long
that
takes
them
or
appoint
a
new
working
group
to
specifically
focus
on
a
statewide
tech
spec,
however
long
that
takes
them,
the
working
groups
in
my
understanding
and
lcb
legal
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
They
are
not
held
to
the
interim
meetings
such
as
the
subcommittee
and
the
acha.
Are.
A
D
A
A
D
A
D
A
A
Okay,
so
here
we
go,
mr
grierson,
your
recommendation
is
to
suggest
research
for
specialty
courts
and
recidivism
suggest
improved
criminal
justice,
information
sharing
with
integrated
relationships
between
ncgis
and
the
criminal
justice
agencies
to
capture
and
report
data.
That
would
provide
this
information.
That's
one
of
them
another
one
is
the
recommendations
out
of
the
noc
working
group
presentation
regarding
amending
statute,
453.336
and
1798.070
to
fix
some
issues
that
were
presented
today.
A
Also,
I
didn't
hear
much
back
from
anyone
on
having
an
independent
study
conducted,
of
course,
that
would
take
some
hefty
research
regarding
who,
how
can
we
fund
that?
Where
would
the
money
come
from
and
then,
where
would
the
third
party
outside
entity
come
from
and
who
would
that
be
to
conduct
that
study?
And
what
do
we
want
them
to
study,
but
perhaps
what
we
could
do
with
that
suggestion
is
chew
on
it.
Come
back
next
interim
and
discuss
that
further,
maybe
next
interim,
rather
than
going
forward
with
the
recommendation
today,.
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A
I
appreciate
our
critical
partnership,
as
we
are
all
an
important
piece
of
the
criminal
justice
system
puzzle
to
include
the
civil
agencies
as
well,
so
we
can't
do
this
without
each
other.
I
greatly
appreciate
everyone's
time
today.
It
was
my
pleasure
to
be
with
you.
I
want
to
offer
you
to
take
care,
be
safe
and
stay
healthy
and
seeing
no
other
business.