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From YouTube: 10/27/2021 - Committee to Conduct Matters Relating to Reapportionment and Redistricting in Nevada
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A
B
A
A
The
it
team,
as
well
as
our
legislative
police
and
ms
brenda
erdos
and
other
staff
who've,
been
working
diligently
in
order
to
make
this
meeting
possible.
Today
I
have
a
few
brief
housekeeping
items
to
go
over
before
we
begin
the
meeting.
First
I'd
like
to
thank
everyone,
because
everyone's
wearing
a
mask.
So
thank
you
for
your
participation
in
in
that
protection.
We
are
meeting
today
in
person,
but
we
also
have
broadcasting
live
over
our
legislators.
A
Youtube
channel
live
streaming
over
the
web
and
we
are
offering
the
standard
call-in
feature
for
public
comment
and,
of
course,
we
will
also
take
public
comment
here
in
person.
Meeting
materials
can
be
assessed
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committee's
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legislators
website
legislature's
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We
will
have
two
periods
of
public
comment
today,
one
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
and
one
at
the
end.
A
A
As
always,
this
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
available
on
the
legislature's
website
for
archive
viewing
on
the
nevada,
legislature's
youtube
channel
and
over
its
streaming
service.
So
with
that,
thank
you
for
indulging
me
in
a
few
housekeeping
items
and
I
would
like
to
move
to
our
next
agenda
item,
which
is
public
comment
again.
We're
asking
that
each
speaker,
each
speaker
will
be
provided
up
to
three
minutes
and
we
encourage
members
of
the
public
to
submit
written
testimony
via
one
of
the
methods
listed
on
the
agenda.
A
D
D
My
comments
today
are
mostly
going
to
be
focused
on
the
state
legislative
districts
and
not
the
congressional
districts,
because
I
assume
that's
where
most
of
your
attention
will
be
focused,
because
it's
most
politically
important
these
days.
D
D
D
Lastly,
I
encourage
this
committee
to
seriously
consider
recommending
to
the
full
legislature
that
you
add
seats
during
this
redistricting
cycle.
The
current
number
of
legislatures
legislators
is
63
in
total
21
in
the
senate,
42
in
the
assembly,
and
that
was
set
in
1983
after
the
1980
census.
The
population
at
that
time
was
800
000..
A
Sir,
thank
you,
but
that
is
your
three
minutes,
so
I
invite
you
to
either
you
can.
You
are
more
than
welcome
to
submit
your
additional
comments
via
any
one
of
those,
the
email
or
fax
or
mailing.
It
also
you're
more
than
welcome
to
stay,
because
we
will
have
public
comment
again
at
the
end
of
the
agenda.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much.
A
B
B
B
B
S-A-U-N-D-E-R-S
and
I'm
the
policy
director
with
the
progressive
leadership
alliance
of
nevada
every
10
years,
the
state
reaches
a
precipice
where
we
have
to
redraw
district
boundaries.
We
cannot
ignore
the
fact
how
much
our
state
grew
over
the
past
decade
and
how
much
more
diverse
it
is
now
to
do
so.
We
run
the
risk
of
losing
community
voices
at
a
time
when
it
is
most
crucial
to
increase
them
across
the
country.
We
have
even
seen
lines
drawn
to
silence
these
communities.
B
We
are
pleased
to
see
that
for
tomorrow's
meeting,
the
committee
will
be
discussing
the
impact
of
redistricting
has
on
tribal
nations
in
nevada,
and
we
hope
that
you
will
have
these
conversations
with
the
tribal
leaders
from
the
northernmost
points
of
the
state
to
the
southernmost
nevada
has
been
at
the
forefront
of
expanding
access
to
the
ballot
box.
I
hope
nevada
is
also
at
the
forefront
of
ensuring
communities
are
not
forgotten,
overlooked
or
ignored.
B
A
Thank
you
for
that.
I'd
like
to
give
it
just
another
moment
or
two
because
just
to
make
sure
those
people
that
are
calling,
because
we
are
approaching
the
telephones
pretty
quickly
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting,
and
I
think
sometimes
people
anticipate
a
little
more
time.
So
I
just
want
to
give
it
another
minute
if
people
still
choose
to
call
in.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
public
comment,
but
would
like
to
remind
everyone
that
we
will
have
public
comment
again
at
the
end
of
this
agenda
so
before
our
next
agenda
item.
I'd
like
to
note
that
the
primary
purpose
of
this
committee
is
to
educate
the
public
and
legislators
on
the
reapportionment
and
redistricting
process
and
give
the
public
a
chance
to
be
heard
on
this
important
topic.
Therefore,
at
this
meeting
and
at
our
meeting
tomorrow,
lcb
staff
will
review
the
basics
of
reapportionment
and
redistricting
agenda.
A
I
know
some
of
this
may
seem
a
bit
repetitive,
but
again
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
the
public
has
this
information
as
we
move
forward
through
the
redistricting
cycle,
and
with
that
we
will
move
on
to
the
next
item
which
our
presenters,
mr
michael
stewart
and
mr
escher
killian,
will
present
item
number
three,
which
is
the
introduction
to
reapportionment
and
redistricting
its
history
and
the
role
of
neva.
The
nevada
state
legislature
in
redistricting.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
michael
stewart.
I
am
the
research
director
with
legislative
council
bureau
and
your
committee
policy
analyst
for
this
committee
and
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
for
our
third
redistricting
public
hearing,
and
I
say
public
hearing,
because
one
of
the
intents
here
is
to
educate
the
public.
You
all
had
a
very
similar
presentation
that
ash
and
are
about
to
give
to
you
on
saturday
so
but
do
feel
free
to
keep
asking
us
questions
if
you'd
like.
E
As
you
know,
every
10
years,
the
following
the
federal
census,
the
nevada
state
legislature,
is
responsible
for
reapportionment
and
redistricting
the
districts
for
the
u.s
house
of
representatives,
the
nevada
state
senate,
the
nevada
state
assembly
and
the
nevada
system
of
higher
education,
their
board
of
regents,
a
lot
of
people
kind
of
wonder.
Well,
what
is
reapportionment
and
redistricting
and
what
are
those?
What
does
that
mean?
And
honestly,
those
terms
are
used
interchangeably,
often
so
in
its
purest
sense.
E
So,
in
short,
reenforcement
is
a
process
of
determining
how
many
districts
in
a
jurisdiction
how
many
districts
a
jurisdiction
will
receive
and
redistricting
refers
to
the
process
of
new
just
how
news
districts
are
being
drawn
with
within
a
particular
jurisdiction,
and
I
would
note
that
the
legislature
can
exercise
both
of
these
powers,
but
it
does
most
commonly
redistrict
and
I'll
turn
it
now
over
to
asher
to
handle
some
of
the
legal
components
of
this.
Thanks.
F
Thank
you,
mr
stewart,
good
evening
committee,
it's
great
to
see
all
of
you
in
person
again,
while
the
next
few
subjects
might
be
familiar
to
you
as
we
discussed
them
just
a
few
days
ago.
The
intent
of
today's
policy
briefing
is
to
give
you
and
more
importantly,
the
public
who
may
be
in
attendance
today,
a
quick
primer
on
some
of
the
basic
legal
concepts
and
practical
considerations
that
that
the
legislature
should
be
familiar
with
going
into
this
special
session
for
redistricting.
F
The
first
thing
you
might
be
asking
yourselves
is:
why
is
this
our
problem?
You
might
not
be
surprised
to
learn
that
the
answer
is
because
the
nevada
constitution
makes
it
your
problem,
specifically,
article
4,
section
5
of
the
nevada
constitution,
makes
it
the
mandatory
duty
of
the
legislature
after
each
census,
to
do
two
things.
First,
to
determine
the
number
of
legislators
in
the
legislature
and
second,
to
draw
the
district
lines
for
those
legislators.
F
As
you
can
see,
this
constitutional
provision
requires
legislative
districts
to
be
established
based
on
population,
but
gives
you
little
other
guidance
on
how
these
districts
are
to
be
drawn,
leaving
that
to
the
legislature's
discretion
that
leads
us
to
the
first
practical
consideration
to
keep
in
mind.
We
could
go
to
the
next
slide.
F
Minnesota's
approach
makes
use
of
technology
to
avoid
some
of
the
technical
bill,
drafting
limitations
of
using
a
list
of
census
areas,
as
you
can
probably
imagine,
long
lists
of
numbers
like
we've,
typically
used
in
nevada,
create
the
potential
for
typographical
errors
and
checking
and
proofing.
These
bills
takes
a
significant
amount
of
time
and
limits
the
speed
with
which
the
legal
division
can
turn
around
bills
containing
a
redistricting
plan.
F
Turning
back
to
a
review
of
the
provisions
of
the
nevada
constitution,
which
are
relevant
to
redistricting
you'll,
see
that
the
requirement
to
use
census
population
as
the
basis
for
drawing
lines
as
echoed
in
two
additional
places.
Article
1
section
13
requires
representation
to
be
apportioned
by
population
and
article
15,
section
13
requires
the
census,
count
be
the
basis
for
representation
in
both
the
senate
and
the
assembly.
F
F
Additionally,
each
senate
district
has
two
assembly
districts
nested
inside
of
it,
which
is
made
possible
by
the
number
of
senators
being
at
the
constitutional
cap
of
half
of
the
number
of
assembly
members.
But
this
also
results
in
an
even
number
of
assembly
members,
which
creates
the
potential
for
a
thai
vote
in
the
assembly.
E
Thank
you,
mr
killian,
again
michael
stewart
for
the
record,
so
just
a
little
bit
about
our
redistricting
history,
I'll
kind
of
run
through
statehood
until
now
or
until
2011,
in
about
five
minutes
so
we'll
see
what
we
can
do
so
since
statehood
in
1864
there
were
several
original
provisions,
as
mr
killian
noted
in
the
constitution
that
really
governed
the
composition
of
the
legislature
and
the
first
nevada
legislature
consisted
of
54
members,
18
senators
and
36
assembly
members
and
from
1864
until
1919,
the
composition
of
the
legislature
changed
16
times,
ranging
from
a
low
of
45
members
from
1893
to
1899
to
a
maximum
of
75
members
from
1875
through
1879..
E
So,
as
you
can
imagine
these
constitutional
provisions
relating
to
population,
they
were
actually
routinely
ignored
in
these
early
years
from
1919
to
1965..
E
So
clearly
a
lot
of
fluctuation
in
the
size
of
the
legislature
during
these
early
years
in
the
1960s,
the
with
legislative
reapportionment,
which
is
obviously
based
on
the
1960
decennial
census,
that
required
drastic
realignment
of
representation
to
account
for
the
state's
rapid
population
growth
and
increase
prop
and
increase
concentration
of
population
in
clark
and
washoe
counties.
E
Now
why
the
senate
remained
under
this
sort
of
little
federalism
model
with
one
senator
from
each
of
the
17
counties,
it
became
evident
that
only
a
reduction
in
the
overall
size
of
the
assembly
would
assure
the
best
ratio
of
representation
for
the
smaller
counties
and
therefore
reapportionment
plan
was
adopted
in
1961
to
reduce
the
assembly
from
47
to
37
members.
As
I
mentioned
at
that
time,
clark
and
washoe
counties
were
given
24
assembly
members,
12
and
9,
respectively,
or
about
57
of
the
assembly,
even
though
they
contained
about
75
percent
of
the
state's
population.
E
E
So
in
the
1970s
redistricting
was
a
little
less
tumultuous
as
there
seemed
to
be
a
greater
acceptance
of
the
population-based
apportionment.
The
legislature
did,
however,
continue
the
use
of
multi-member
districts
and
also
in
the
1970s,
the
legislature
moved
from
60
members
total
with
20
senators
and
40
assembly
members
in
the
1980s.
E
There
seemed
to
be
less
conflict
with
reenforcement
and
redistricting,
as
key
legislators
from
urban
and
rural
parts
of
nevada
worked
together
to
resolve
differences
and
establish
a
general
agreement
that
early
on
in
that
session,
the
size
of
the
legislature
would
increase
to
its
current
size
of
63,
21
senators
and
42
assembly
members
in
1990s.
E
Greater
controversy
did
exist
with
a
91
round
of
reapportionment,
and
that
was
largely
because
republican
and
democratic
margins
were
so
close
that
both
parties
had
to
compromise,
and
they
were.
They
were
also
faced
with
huge
population
growth
of
the
1980s,
especially
in
southern
nevada,
which
meant
that
representation
or
seats
from
the
north
would
have
to
be
shifted
to
the
south.
E
E
While
it
was
made
simpler
due
to
technological
advances,
it
was
also
challenging
due
to
significant
significant
political
and
demographic
factors
in
2001.
The
legislature
remained
at
its
current
size
of
63
and
representation,
or
seats
from
the
north
were
shifted
south
and
another
significant
challenge
was
the
addition
of
a
new
congressional
seat
for
nevada.
E
So
with
legislators
facing
budget
and
revenue
constraints,
there
seemed
to
be
a
little
desire
at
that
time
in
2011
to
increase
the
size
of
the
legislature,
and
there
was
a
greater
percentage
of
senate
and
assembly
districts
that
would
continue
to
shift
seat
wise
to
southern
nevada
and
again
to
account
for
the
notable
population
growth
in
clark.
E
So,
with
the
two
we
just,
there
were
two
redistricting
measures
that
were
approved
in
2011.
E
senate
bill,
497
and
ab556,
and
both
bills
were
vetoed
by
the
governor
and
the
legislature
did
not
take
up
those
bills
to
override
or
sustain
the
veto
and
the
governor
at
that.
Time
also
indicated
that
he
would
not
call
the
legislature
into
special
session
for
redistricting
to
complete
the
task
and
therefore
that
task
fell
to
the
courts
and
first
judicial
district
judge
james
russell
appointed
three
special
masters
to
accomplish
the
redistricting
exercise
and
their
report
was
completed
and
their
plans
were
submitted
to
the
court
on
october
14
2011.
E
So,
as
you
can
imagine,
probably
some
notable
challenges
in
2011
that
I
think
we'll
likely
see
today.
A
lot
of
these
challenges
tend
not
to
change
from
decade
to
decade,
and
that
of
course
includes
the
tremendous
overall
population
growth
that
nevada
continues
to
see
every
census.
E
And
conversely,
there
have
been
some
counties
that
have
lost
population,
and
so
that
poses
some
challenges
as
well.
There
is
always
increased
influence
of
communities
of
interest,
whether
that
be
ethnic
groups,
urban
rural
et
cetera
and
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
communities
of
interest
and
the
tool
now
that's
being
offered
on
the
my
districting
app.
So
people
can
really
help
identify
those
as
they're
making
their
maps
through
the
application.
E
E
The
size
of
the
legislature
is
always
a
consideration,
so
that
might
be
something
the
legislature
might
consider
and
then
there's
always
the
potential
for
the
creation
of
multiple
ballot
styles
due
to
overlapping
non-coterminous
district
boundaries,
as
you
start
overlaying
those
boundaries
from
one
map
to
the
other.
You
end
up
with
potential
for
multiple
ballot
styles,
which
could
be
challenging
for
our
local
election
officials
and
then.
E
So
let
me
tell
you
a
few
quick
statistics
in
2011
each
member
at
that
time
represented
and
again
that's
a
snapshot
in
time
based
on
the
2010
census,
each
assembly
member
represented
about
600
or
excuse
me
64,
299
residents,
the
ideal
population
for
the
2021
redistricting
cycle
for
assembly
districts
is
73
919.
E
Just
a
few
other
quick
statistics:
all
the
assembly
districts
are
nested
in
the
senate
districts,
as
mr
killian
pointed
out,
and
there
were
no
no
more
multi-member
senate
districts,
meaning
the
senate.
Districts
were
then
renumbered
from
1
to
21..
E
E
For
congressional,
we
achieved
a
fourth
congressional
seat
in
2011
and
they
established
four
distinct
geographical
areas:
northern
nevada,
which
is
congressional
district,
two
central
and
northern
clark
county,
which
is
congressional
district.
Four
las
vegas
urban,
core
areas,
congressional
district,
one
and
southern
clark,
county's
district.
Three,
and
at
that
time
the
ideal
population
for
districts,
one
two
and
three
was
675:
thousands,
138
and
district.
E
Four,
because
we
had
an
an
odd
number
of
nevada
residents,
was
675
137,
and
I
would
note
that
the
urban
core
district
at
that
time
included
a
hispanic
or
latino
population
of
43
percent,
so
and
except
for
clark,
county
lyon.
County
is
the
only
county.
That's
divided
in
this
current
redistricting
plan
for
congressional
districts.
E
The
number
that
the
legislature
would
be
shooting
for
for
ideal
population
for
2021
for
congressional
district
is
776
thousand
one
hundred
fifty
four
and
finally,
as
you
know,
the
legislature
does
draw
lines
for
the
nevada
system
of
higher
education's
board
of
regents.
That
was
a
that's
a
13
member
board,
which
was
increased
from
11
members
in
2001.
E
You
heard
a
report
from
mr
reynolds
of
enshi
on
saturday
and,
as
he
pointed
out,
their
plan
that
they're
at
least
submitting
for
your
consideration
and
still
retains
that
13-member
board
and
the
ideal
population
that
they're
that
they
have
identified
in
that
plan
is
238
816
for
each
district
of
the
board
of
regents
and
finally
I'll
point
out
that
the
state
board
of
education
I
mean
is
in
2011.
E
We,
the
legislature,
approved
a
bill
to
change
the
way
that
they're
selected,
and
so
it's
now
sort
of
a
hybrid
board
with
four
members
elected
by
the
voters
in
each
congressional
district
and
the
remaining
members
appointed,
and
so
I
think
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
mr
killian
to
take
us
home
on
this
one.
Thank.
F
E
F
Again,
asher
killian,
chief
deputy
legislative
counsel
and
committee
counsel
for
the
record.
Now
I'm
going
to
quickly
cover
some
of
the
important
federal
constitutional
provisions
and
case
law
relating
to
redistricting.
F
First,
article
1,
section
2
of
the
us
constitution,
apportioned
seats
in
the
u.s
house
among
the
states
on
the
basis
of
census
population,
while
nevada's
population
has
grown
the
census
found
that
it
didn't
grow
enough
to
gain
an
additional
seat.
So
nevada
was
still
apportioned.
Four
seats
in
the
house
for
this
cycle,
since
article
1,
section
4
of
the
u.s
constitution
requires
state
legislatures
to
prescribe
the
time
place
and
manner
of
holding
elections
for
the
u.s
house.
You'll
also
have
the
responsibility
to
draw
district
lines
for
those
four
seats.
F
Additionally,
section
2
of
the
14th
amendment
contains
the
equal
protection
clause.
The
united
states
supreme
court
has
held
this
clause
to
be
the
basis
of
the
concept
of
one
person,
one
vote,
which
means
that
each
voter's
vote
should
carry
a
roughly
equal
weight,
regardless
of
where
the
voter
lives.
F
If
you'd,
like
a
little
light,
bedtime
reading
once
again,
you're
welcome
to
pull
up
those
cases
and
help
yourself
snooze.
For
the
sake
of
brevity.
During
this
meeting,
we're
not
going
to
get
into
each
of
the
issues
on
the
next
slide
in
depth.
But
there
are
a
few
additional
legal
items
relating
to
redistricting
that
you
should
be
aware
of.
F
Adherence
to
the
one
person,
one
vote
principle
is
measured
by
a
different
standard
depending
on
whether
congressional
districts
or
state
legislative
districts
are
being
drawn
for
congressional
districts.
The
us
supreme
court
has
decided
that
equality
of
population
is
the
paramount
consideration
generally
allowing
a
deviation
from
the
ideal
population
in
each
district
of
not
more
than
plus
or
minus
a
single
voter
for
state
legislative
districts.
F
Case
law
regarding
the
voting
rights
act
simultaneously
prohibits
creating
minority
majority
districts
where
such
districts
cannot
be
feasibly
drawn
in
a
reasonably
compact
manner,
but
also
prohibits
failing
to
draw
such
a
district.
If
a
reasonably
compact
district
can
be
drawn
with
concrete
evidence
of
both
political
cohesion
among
members
of
the
minority
group
and
block
voting
against
the
minority
group
by
members
of
the
majority
functionally.
F
In
addition
to
these
two
mandatory
principles
for
redistricting,
there
are
a
variety
of
traditional
redistricting
principles
that
the
legislature
may
choose
to
follow
in
drawing
district
boundaries.
We'll
cover
those
in
just
a
minute.
Note,
however,
that
these
principles
may
often
conflict
with
each
other,
which
requires
the
legislature
to
either
choose
to
prioritize
certain
principles
or
to
determine
how
to
balance
the
principles
against
each
other.
F
Briefly,
before
rucho,
the
federal
courts
would
hear
cases
under
the
equal
protection
clause
of
the
14th
amendment
to
the
u.s
constitution,
regarding
whether
drawing
district
lines
to
the
advantage
of
one
political
party
at
the
expense
of
another
unconstitutionally
denied
members
of
the
disadvantaged
party.
The
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
political
process
in
rucho.
The
supreme
court
decided
that
such
claims
under
the
federal
constitution
were
political
questions
and
that
the
federal
courts
would
no
longer
consider
those
claims.
F
Rucho
explicitly
left
open
the
possibility
for
partisan
gerrymandering
to
be
challenged
in
state
courts
if
some
independent
basis
for
the
claim
exists.
Pursuant
to
a
state
constitutional
provision,
a
little
over
half
of
states
have
what's
called
a
free
and
equal
elections
clause
in
their
state
constitutions,
and
those
clauses
are
generally
interpreted
as
a
requirement
that
elections
be
free
from
political
influence
and
those
clauses
create
a
basis
to
challenge
partisan
gerrymandering.
F
However,
nevada's
constitution
does
not
have
such
a
clause
and
the
equal
protection
clause
in
article
4,
section
21
of
nevada's
constitution
is
generally
interpreted
in
the
same
manner
as
the
federal
equal
protection
clause,
which
the
court
held
in
rutra.
To
not
be
a
basis
for
partisan
gerrymandering
challenges,
therefore,
it
is
unlikely
that
a
partisan
gerrymandering
claim
would
succeed
in
a
nevada
court.
F
F
Second
is
contiguity,
which
means
that
all
points
in
the
district
must
connect
connect
with
each
other.
Somehow,
third
is
the
preservation
of
counties
and
other
political
subdivisions
such
as
cities,
towns
or
districts,
and
fourth,
is
the
related
concept
of
preservation
of
communities
of
interest,
which
is
a
broader
idea
that
can
include
things
such
as
neighborhoods,
racial
or
ethnic
groups,
college
students
or
any
other
group
that
shares
some
sort
of
common
policy.
Interest.
F
As
you
can
see,
many
of
these
principles
do
conflict.
For
example,
if
you're
trying
to
preserve
a
city
or
a
county,
that
itself
is
an
unusual
size.
It
can
be
difficult
to
draw
a
compact
district
if
you're
trying
to
preserve
a
community
of
interest.
That's
too
big
for
one
district,
but
not
big
enough
for
two.
It
can
be
difficult
to
get
close
to
the
equal
population
for
the
district
and
might
require
the
community
of
interest
or
some
political
subdivision
to
be
split.
F
If
a
particular
racial
or
ethnic
group
has
grown
in
part
of
an
area
that
spans
multiple
existing
districts,
to
the
point
that
it
might
require
a
minority
majority
district.
This
could
require
the
core
of
previous
districts
to
be
split
or
for
incumbents,
who
are
both
in
the
affected
area
to
be
paired
against
each
other.
F
It's
important
to
remember
that
no
district
is
drawn
in
a
vacuum.
All
districts
have
to
be
drawn
as
part
of
a
statewide
whole
and
in
a
state
where
the
vast
majority
of
the
population
lives
in
two
urban
cores.
This
alone
can
require
counties
to
be
split
or
for
some
districts
to
be
so
geographically
small
as
a
result
of
dense
population
that
the
underlying
physical
geography
of
streets
and
neighborhoods
creates
unusual
shapes.
F
A
All
right
not
seeing
any
questions,
not
seeing
any
questions.
Thank
you
and
and
again
for
us.
This
is
our
second
time
seeing
it
so
we're
absorbing
it
and
picking
up
other
points.
Thank
you
so
much
not
seeing
any
questions.
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
this
agenda
item
and
open
the
agenda
item
for
number
four
for
the
next
presentation,
mr
kalin,
we're
going
to
have
you
stay
as
you're
presenting
it
with
mr
with
ms
pral,
who
is
also
approaching
mr
lawton.
A
Our
state
demographer
is
presenting
via
zoom,
and
this
agenda
item
is
an
update
on
the
adjustment
of
the
2020
census.
Population
totals
for
the
purposes
of
redistricting
to
reflect
the
reallocation
of
inmates
pursuant
to
assembly
bill
450
from
2019.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
again,
asher
killian,
chief
deputy
legislative
counsel
and
committee
council
for
this
study.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
present
on
assembly
bill
450
from
2019,
and
thank
you
for
getting
my
introductions
out
of
the
way
for
me.
I'm
joined
by
haley
proll
who's,
a
senior
policy
analyst
and
gis
specialist
in
the
research
division
of
lcb,
as
well
as
matt
lawton
via
zoom,
who
is
our
state
demographer?
F
These
duties
became
effective
on
july,
1st
2019
as
the
legislature.
Obviously,
this
is
the
first
time
you're
running
into
it,
because
it's
the
first
time
we've
redistricted
since
july,
1
2019,
but
both
the
department
of
corrections
and
the
state
demographer
have
been
under
their
obligation
to
carry
out
the
duties
imposed
by
this
act
since
july.
First
of
2019.
C
Actually,
I
think
these
are
my
slides,
I'm
sorry,
matthew,
lawton,
yeah,
no
problem,
matthew,
lawton,
nevada,
state,
demographer,
department
of
taxation
good
evening,
I'm
fairly
recent
into
the
position,
so
my
predecessor,
mr
hardcastle,
initiated
the
contact
with
department
of
corrections
for
the
initial
files
that
were
provided.
C
I
came
on
board
toward
the
end
of
the
process,
but
I
can
summarize
what
was
received
by
my
office
going
back
to
february.
The
initial
data
file
that
was
received
from
the
department
of
corrections
included,
12
214
inmate
records
among
those
records.
7
500,
one
of
them
contained
some
form
of
a
last
known
address,
so
4713
did
not
have
that
information
among
the
7501.
C
C
C
However,
by
the
third
file,
it
was
clear
corrections
had
you
know,
provided
as
much
data
as
they
were
able
to
provide
for
the
information
in
the
data
files.
So
moving
on
to
the
next
slide.
C
C
The
the
initial
file
had
what
was
called
the
previous
address,
and
this
was
simply
the
inmate
address
prior
to
arrest.
C
Again,
it
wasn't
complete
for
every
record,
but
it
was
included
for
those
records
that
were
where
was
indicated
in
the
subsequent
files.
C
In
the
second
file,
there
was
an
additional
field
that
was
provided
called
a
no
fixed
address,
and
what
this
was
was
an
address
that
was
pertained
to
the
inmate
prior
to
incarceration,
where
they
lived
temporarily,
perhaps
with
roommates
or
with
a
relative
or
in
some
situations
it
was
the
address
of
a
shelter
or
a
similar
type
of
facility,
and
then
we
had
a
third
field
that
identified
a
planned
parole
address
from
the
inmate.
C
So
this
was
the
location
that
the
inmate
indicated
that
they
intended
to
live
during
their
parole
and
then
lastly,
there
was
a
field
that
identified
what
was
called
a
resident
address,
and
this
was
a
an
address
that
was
recorded
when
an
inmate's
spouse
or
family
had
relocated
from
the
previous
address,
since
the
inmates
incarceration.
C
So
obviously
there
was
some
question
as
to
the
order
precedence
of
these
addresses
and
how
they
should
be
used
for
this
reallocation
effort.
Obviously,
statute
didn't
provide
really
any
clarity
on
how
that
was
to
happen
so
based
on
consultation
with
council
from
lcb
and
also
from
the
department
of
taxation.
C
This
was
the
order
of
precedence
that
was
determined
the
previous
address
if
it
was
locatable
that
was
the
first
order
of
data
to
be
used
if
that
was
not
available,
but
there
was
a
an
identifiable
address
in
the
no
fixed
address
field,
then
that
was
used
for
the
reallocation
for
the
inmate
record.
C
If
neither
the
previous
address
nor
the
no
fixed
address
were
specifically
locatable,
but
there
was
some
indication
that
the
inmate
record
was
in
state
prior
to
incarceration
some
some
of
them
had
city
names,
county
names,
zip
codes
that
could
be
identified
as
in-state.
Then
the
plan
parole
address
was
used
for
those
records.
C
It
was
felt
that
that
was
fulfilling
the
intent
of
the
legislation
to
do
that
and
then,
lastly,
the
resident
address
was
not
used
because
that
was
not
a
location
that
the
inmate
necessarily
was
linked
to
prior
to
incarceration,
so
that
that
was
not
used
in
the
reallocation.
C
So
moving
on
to
the
next
slide
a
little
bit
further
explanation
of
that
distinction
between
in-state
versus
out-of-state.
C
You
know,
as
I
mentioned,
if
we
couldn't
locate
by
the
previous
or
the
no
fix
address,
but
we
did
find
some
sort
of
linkage
that
was
in
state
city,
name,
county,
zip
code,
po
box,
then
you
know
we
could
use
that
parole
address
for
reallocation,
but
if
there
was
no
identifiable
record
showing
an
in-state
location
prior
to
incar
incarceration,
then
that
inmate
count
was
kept
back
at
the
correctional
facility
for
which
they
were
counted
during
the
census
on
april
1st
2020..
C
So
the
next
slide
kind
of
summarizes
the
recommendations
for
for
the
next
go-around,
at
least
from
my
office's
perspective.
So
there
were
some
challenges
with
data
quality.
You
know
corrections
provided
as
much
information
as
they
were
able
to
provide,
but
you
know
obviously
having
complete
records
probably
would
have
given
us
a
higher
matching
rate
for
addresses.
So
for
the
next
decennial
cycle.
C
You
know,
data
quality
is
probably
an
initiative
that
should
be
looked
at
also
clarifying
that
order
of
precedence
of
the
addresses
you
know
going
into
this.
We
weren't
expecting
there
to
be
multiple
types
of
addresses
tied
to
the
inmate,
so
perhaps
some
clarification
as
to
what
types
of
addresses
should
be
applied
to
the
reallocation
process
and
then
also
that
guidance
on
inmate
records
that
cannot
be
allocated
either
because
they
had
no
address
record
or
they
were
out
of
state.
C
G
G
G
G
There
are
some
non-geocodable
address
types,
including
po
boxes
and
often
commercial
buildings.
The
street,
the
underlying
street
data
in
geocoders
often
referred
to
residential
addresses
only
and
the
final
reason
is
address,
formatting
errors.
So
if
there
were
line
breaks
or
extra
or
missing
spaces
that
can
mess
up
the
geocoder,
but
those
were
also
easily
fixed
as
well
so
taking
a
look
at
the
results
of
the
inmate
reallocation,
all
said
and
done
out
of
the
12
214
records,
6275
inmates
were
reallocated
or
51.5
percent.
G
G
G
34
inmates
were
counted
at
places
such
as
a
county,
jail
hospital
or
medical
facility,
or
district
court
and
ndoc
included
these
inmates
in
the
file,
because
it
was
unsure
whether
all
county
jails
and
hospitals
completed
their
census
counts
on
the
same
night.
But
ultimately,
these
were
not
reallocated
because
ab450
defines
an
inmate
as
someone
who
is
incarcerated
in
a
facility
or
institution
of
ndoc.
G
About
4
326
inmate
address
records
were
unknown,
2
927
did
not
have
a
valid
address
and
there
was
an
additional
subset,
1
3999,
who
had
a
valid
parole
address,
but
it
was
determined
since
they
could
not
be
verified
for
sure
that
they
were
residents
of
the
state
prior
to
incarceration.
G
This
pearl
address
would
not
be
used,
so
this
bottom
subset
of
in-state
addresses
is
what
we're
really
looking
at
for
the
reallocation
and
those
rows
highlighted
in
green
are
what
were
able
to
be
geocoded
ultimately,
and
reallocated
5592
had
a
valid
address
and
683
had
a
valid
parole
address
and
again
in
total
6275
inmates
were
able
to
be
reallocated.
G
The
following
slides
include
reallocation
results
at
the
current
district
and
county
levels
so
for
congressional
districts.
The
impact
of
this
reallocation
ranged
from
a
negative
0.31
change
to
a
positive
0.34
change.
G
Congressional
district
1
had
the
highest
percent
change
that
is
in
the
las
vegas
core
congressional
district
4
had
the
largest
negative
percent
change,
that
is
a
central
nevada
district
that
includes
the
county's,
esmeralda,
lincoln
mineral
nye
part
of
lion
and
part
of
clark
county
for
the
board
of
regents.
G
The
impact
of
the
adjustment
was
an
overall
range
of
minus
1.45
percent
to
positive
point.
Four:
three
percent
district,
five
of
the
current
board
of
regents
districts
had
the
largest
percent
change.
That
is
also
in
the
las
vegas
core
board
of
regents
district
8
had
the
largest
negative
percent
change,
that's
again
a
rural
district.
It
includes
the
counties:
elko,
eureka,
humboldt,
lincoln,
nye,
white,
pine
and
part
of
clark
county
for
the
senate
districts.
G
The
overall
range
in
percent
change
was
negative.
2.4
to
positive
0.56
percent
senate
district
4
had
the
largest
positive
percent
change,
that
is
in
the
north.
Las
vegas
area
and
senate
district
19
had
the
largest
negative
percent
change,
that
is,
a
rural
district
with
counties,
elko,
eureka,
lincoln
nye,
white,
pine
and
part
of
clark
county.
G
The
impact
on
the
assembly
districts
is
similar
to
the
other
district
types.
The
overall
range
of
the
impact
of
the
reallocation
is
from
negative
3.45
percent
to
positive
0.75
percent
and
assembly.
District
6
had
the
largest
positive
percent
change,
that
is,
a
district
in
the
north,
las
vegas
area
and
assembly.
District
36
had
the
largest
negative
percent
change,
and
that
is
a
rural
district,
with
parts
of
nye,
lincoln
and
clark
counties
and
in
terms
of
the
impact
on
counties.
G
The
adjusted
numbers
from
the
inmate
reallocation
is
the
data
set
that
is
in
the
desktop
redistricting
software,
as
well
as
the
public
redistricting
application.
My
district
in
nevada,
this
adjusted
data
set,
is
also
available
for
download
as
a
standalone
data
set
in
excel
format
on
the
legislators
redistricting
website.
That
link
is
on
this
slide,
and
one
other
thing
of
note
is
that
only
the
total
population
field
was
adjusted
due
to
this
reallocation
and
no
other
census.
Data
fields,
including
any
race,
hispanic
or
latino
or
voting
age
population
fields,
were
adjusted.
G
A
Thank
you
for
that
presentation.
Members.
Do
we
have
any
questions?
Okay,
I
will
start
with.
Oh,
we
have
a
few
questions.
I
first
I
I
do
understand
that
miss
livingston
from
the
department
of
corrections
is
here.
Would
you
be
able
to
come
up
and
because
I'm
not
sure
if
the
questions
are
specific
for
and
yes,
please,
please
come
up
and
then
that
way?
Oh,
I
forget.
A
B
Thank
you
so
much
chair.
I
guess
I
just
have
a
really
quick
clarification
for
endoc
the
representatives
from
there
so
to
clarify
and
doctor
turned
over
one.
Second,
let
me
just
go
back
up
to
the
demographic
count.
So
ndoc
turned
over
12
000,
almost
12
214
records.
There
is
a.
Is
there
a
potential
that
there
were
some?
There
are
probably
more
folks
that
weren't
turned
over
as
part
of
the
count
is
there
is
that
is
that
a
potential
or
is
that
the
total
count
that
you
had
at
that
time?
H
Sorry
about
that,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
alejandra
livingston.
I
work
for
the
nevada
department
of
corrections.
I
am
an
economist
iii
I'd
like
to
clarify
that
it
was
agreed
that
census
day
for
group
quarters
nationwide
was
scheduled
to
take
place
april,
1
2020
at
midnight.
H
So
the
count
that
was
provided
to
the
state,
demographer
and
redistricting
was
the
same
count
and
the
same
offenders
that
were
accounted
for
on
census
night.
G
H
So
it
is
not
my
assumption
that
any
mates
would
have
been
left
out.
However,
what
I
have
to
say
about
counts
is
that,
because
of
covet
19,
our
prison
population
probably
would
have
been
somewhat
higher
at
that
time
than
than
perhaps
in
april
of
of
the
prior
year,
simply
because
the
number
of
admissions
was
going
down
because
of
cobit.
H
A
B
Thank
you.
I
guess
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
that
is,
I'm
looking
at
the
unknown
addresses
and
I'm
interested
in
hearing
what
ndoc
did
following
up
when,
when
you
learned
of
some
of
the
records
that
had
no
valid
addresses
and
what
the
follow-up
was
beyond
that.
That's
pretty
much
what
I
wanted
to
further
clarification.
H
I'm
I
think
that
one
of
the
the
issues
of
concern
that
I
would
happen,
probably
from
rit
department,
is
that
they
were
under
the
impression
that
when
we
met
with
them
with
the
team-
and
we
were-
we
asked
what
types
of
addresses
we
should
provide
and
what
I'd
like
to
clarify
that.
H
The
reason
why
we
have
so
many
addresses
that
are
collected
in
part,
because
the
computer
system
that
we
have,
which
is
called
notice,
was
created
by
a
canadian
firm
called
cisco
and
it
provides
the
opportunity
to
enter
many
address
types
and
the
reason
we
collect
that
many
address
types
is
because
for
investigative
purposes.
So
not
only
because
we
want
to
know
where
to
forward
mail
to
the
email
when
the
email
is
released,
but
also
in
case
of
the
inmate
escapes.
H
So
it
is
possible
that
there
were
blanks-
and
let's
say
the
street,
address
and
noble,
and
no
blanks
for
the
inmate
in
in
the
previous
address.
Or
maybe
there
were
no
blanks
in
the
plan
pearl
address,
but
blanks
and
the
and
the
mailing
address,
so
that
could
have
been
the
issue.
So
when,
when
we
offered
the
data
it
was
assumed
that
which
address
types
would
have
the
most
data,
those
were
the
ones
to
be
provided
to
to
the
team.
H
However,
as
far
as
the
quality
of
that
information,
I
was
not
aware
really
until
it
was
provided
to
them,
but
many
efforts
were
made
to
try
to
provide
them
with.
As
you
know,
fewer
data
points
as
possible
and
as
they
explained,
a
lot
of
the
data
were
not
accurate
and
we
don't
have
really
the
ability
to
determine
whether
an
address
is
accurate
or
not.
H
One
of
the
the
challenges
that
we
have
is
that
the
the
inmate
demographic
information
is
collected
during
the
intake
process
and
it's
all
self-reported.
So
even
the
information
that
is
in
the
pre-sentence
investigation
report,
which
does
not
always
come
with
the
email.
Sometimes
we
receive
it
later.
We
don't
receive
it
at
all.
H
That's
all
self-reported
so
and
before
the
inmate
is
transported
to
a
state
facility
that
inmate
most
likely
lived
in
a
jail
before
the
email
was
waiting
to
go
through
a
court
hearing
or
I
went
in
the
trial
process,
and
maybe
he
spent
several
months
or
a
year
and
there
most
of
these
individuals
don't
have
the
lifestyles
that
many
of
us
have
so
they're
they're
transient
people.
They
don't
have
necessarily
a
set
address
where
they
lived.
H
But
I
would
like
to
provide
some
clarification,
maybe
a
little
bit
outside
the
question
being
asked
as
far
as
the
meaning
of
of
the
addresses
the
resident's
address
could
be
either
the
previous
address
or
the
inmate's
current
address
or
future
address.
So
if
there
is
still
a
relative,
a
family
of
that
inmate
leaving
there,
that's
still
a
valid
address
and
not
fixed
address.
Yes,
that
is
used
for
inmates
that
are
in
transient
status
that
could
be
a
shelter
and
and
so
forth.
H
H
H
Sometimes
inmates
have
to
go
to
hearings,
so
they
might
be
absent
from
a
prison
for
a
couple
of
nights,
the
same
if
they
become
seriously
ill
and
they
had
to
be
transported
to
a
hospital.
So
on
census
night
we
were
told
by
the
u.s
census
bureau
that
we
did
not
need
to
account
for
them,
because
jails
and
hospitals
were
also
going
to
be
participating
and
and
the
census,
but
they
are,
they
are
actually
a
felony
inmates.
H
But
when
we
learned
that
there
were
a
lot
of
missing
data
points
and
the
data
sets
that
we
provided
to
the
redistricting
team,
we
did
make
a
significant
effort
to
try
to
provide
them
with
any
information
that
we
had.
In
fact,
some
of
us
looked
up
zip
codes
and
we
noticed
and
zip
codes
were
missing
numbers
and
so
forth,
and
we
actually
had
spent
a
lot
of
time
doing
that
and
my
division
defender
management
division
memoranda
to
all
the
inmates.
H
They
had
missing
data
and
they
interviewed
them
if
they
were
still
housed
so
because
the
the
census
was
done
in
april.
Some
of
them
were
no
longer
housed
at
our
facilities
and
they
were
interviewed
in
person.
Very
few
of
them
also
refused
to
provide
that
information.
We
cannot
force
them
to
provide
it,
and
we
also
had
one
dedicated
staff
who
actually
pull
hard
copy
files
and
and
try
to
find
documents
whenever
possible.
H
But
we
are
committed
to
improving
in
in
this
capacity
and
we're
willing
to
work
with
the
redistricting
to
to
improve
the
quantity
and
quality
of
data,
provided.
We
are
already
working
closely
with
rit
division
to
try
to
streamline
the
number
of
addresses
available
in
that
system
and
we're
starting
to
train
our
intake
staff
on
how
to
utilize
those
addresses
and
making
sure
that
those
addresses
are
current.
H
There
isn't
always
a
good
chance
that
the
address
that
that
person
will
provide
will
be
accurate
and
there
are
inmates
that
have
language
barriers
and
inmates
that
have
intellectual
deficiencies
to
or
history
of,
substance,
abuse
and
so
forth.
So
we
cannot
always
rely
on
them,
providing
us
with
precise
information.
Unfortunately,
yes.
A
Thank
you
sure,
senator
gokachia.
Do
you
still
have
your
question.
I
H
That
would
be
I'm
sorry,
but
that
would
be
a
good
question
perhaps
for
I'm
not
sure
who
makes
that
decision
I
apologize,
but
if,
if
they
will
not
be
reallocated,
I
mean
if
there
is
anything
that
we
can
still
do
to
collect
more
information.
We
we
can
certainly
try
to
do
so
if,
if
it's
still
doable.
I
I
For
other.
You
know
federal
funds,
state
funds,
that's
their
total
population
of
the
jurisdictions.
So
I
am
kind
of
concerned
about
where
those
six
thousand-
I
I
hear
you
you
know
if
a
person
is
in
the
max
and
ely
and
and
doing
40
years
to
life-
that's
probably
going
to
be
his
residence
for
a
couple
of
cycles.
I
H
I
A
F
Asher
killian,
chief
deputy
legislative
counsel,
so
the
requirement
and
law
in
nrs,
360
288
the
duty
imposed
on
the
demographer-
is
to
reallocate
those
inmates.
If
and
only
if,
the
demographer
can
confirm
that
they
were
nevada
residents
before
incarceration.
F
So
there
there
are
two
different
sources
of
data
that
are
necessary,
even
if
the
demographer
has
an
address
that
he
could
potentially
reallocate
them
to.
If
there's
not
proof
that
the
person
was
a
nevada
resident
before
incarceration,
the
demographer
does
not
have
the
authority
to
reallocate
them.
So
since
they
were
counted
by
the
census
at
the
prison
site,
they
have
to
remain
counted
at
the
prison
site.
F
Similarly,
if
the
data
isn't
sufficient
for
the
demographer
to
make
a
judgment
of
what
the
inmate
excuse
me,
what
the
inmates
address
was
before
incarceration,
then
the
demographer
also
doesn't
have
the
information
necessary
to
reallocate
them
so
again
in
that
instance,
they
would
have
to
be
counted
where
they
were
counted
by
the
census,
which
is
at
the
prison
site.
F
So
there
are
significant
number
of
inmates
who
will
remain
counted
at
the
prison
site
either
because
there's
insufficient
evidence
that
they
were
in
nevada
residence
before
incarceration
or
insufficient
evidence
of
their
address
in
general
and
the
demographer
doesn't
have
the
authority
to
reallocate
any
of
those
inmates.
Unless
those
two
conditions
are
made.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
glad
this
was
brought
up
tonight
because
we
had
some
questions
about
it
at
our
meeting
in
las
vegas,
and
I
have
the
same
concerns
that
senator
gokuchiya
has
about
the
people
that
weren't
counted
this
bill.
I
wasn't
here,
but
it
was
passed
in
2019,
and
here
we
are
in
2021,
with
half
of
the
people
we
aren't
being
able
to
identify.
So
that's
problematic
to
me
because
I
would
like
to
see
everyone
counted.
J
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
asher,
killian
chief
deputy
legislative
council
through
you
to
the
senator
this
bill
does
not
in
any
way
import
census
populations
from
other
states
if
a
person
was
incarcerated
in
another
state
and
reported
on
the
in
the
census
as
being
a
resident
of
that
other
state.
There's
no
mechanism
in
this
bill
to
import
that
population
back
into
nevada,
so
those
people
would
not
be
counted
in
nevada.
They
may
or
may
not
be
counted
in
the
state
that
they're
incarcerated
in
depending
on
that
state's
laws.
F
11
states
have
laws
like
ab450
that
reallocate
inmates
to
their
home
addresses
the
majority
of
those
states.
If
the
inmate
is
actually
an
out-of-state
resident
simply
do
not
count
those
inmates
for
districting
purposes,
nevada
is
one
of
the
minority
of
states
that
do
continue
to
count
that
person
at
the
prison
site,
rather
than
not
counting
them
at
all.
J
Great,
thank
you
follow
up.
Please.
Yes,
please,
and
the
other
thing
that
was
mentioned
that
I'm
curious
about
is.
I
think
you
said
that
jails
and
hospitals
are
counted
separately.
H
H
Sure
so,
on
census,
night
april,
1
2020.
If
the
inmate
was
housed
at
a
jail
or
a
hospital,
then
the
inmate
was
not
accounted
for
in
the
decennial
census.
H
Yes,
because
the
u.s
census
bureau
indicated
that
we
shouldn't,
because
jails
and
hospitals
were
going
to
conduct
their
own
senses
and
nationwide,
the
group
all
group
group
voters
were
going
to
have
their
census
on
april
1..
Yes,
so
they
were
accounted
for
in
the
census,
but
not
as
being
in
our
facility
and.
H
I
am
not
sure
we
would
have
to
contact
each
one
of
the
jails
in
the
state
and
and
find
out
if
that
was
done,
that
night.
Okay,
very
few
people
are
in
a
jail
or
in
a
hospital
on
a
given
night,
maybe
less
than
100
people,
maybe
maybe
40
people
at
the
most.
H
But
we
have
their
information.
So
we
I
believe
that
it
was
provided
as
well
or
or
maybe
not,
but
we
can't
provide
that
information.
H
Well,
as
I
explained
earlier,
we
are
willing
to
work
with
our
redistricting
team
and
to
try
to
improve
the
quality
of
the
data.
We
have
some
problems
that
are
beyond
our
control.
Like
I
was
explaining
it's
self-reported
data
for
some
inmates.
We
have
very
little
documentation,
unfortunately,
but
we
can
certainly
work
with
with
the
registry
team.
My
division
is
currently
working
on
a
training
module
for
the
intake
staff
to
teach
them
how
to
better
utilize
the
information.
H
So
if
the
case
manager,
that's
entering
information
knows
that
sacramento
is
in
california.
That
person
can
correct
the
information,
but
if,
if
it's
a
city
that
is
not
well
known
and
whatever
that
the
computer
pops
up,
that's
that's
what
goes
in
so
there
are
challenges
with
that.
So
we
would
like
to
work
with
the
state
demographer
and
with
the
gis
analyst
at
lcb
in
in
in
helping
us
with
that
problem.
We
would
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
A
Thank
you
vice
chair,
and,
and
we
would
encourage
you
to
continue
to
strive
to
do
that
because
really
these
concerns
for
our
inmates
extend
past
census
and
redistricting,
and
so
we
would
encourage
you
to
continue
on
that.
Yes,.
A
All
right
see
no
additional
questions.
Thank
you
so
much
mrs
livingston
miss
paul
mr
killian,
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
that
agenda
item
and
we
will
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item
agenda:
item
5,
which
is
the
overview
of
demographic
products
involving
census,
data
from
nevada's
office
of
the
state,
demographer
and
discussion
of
the
2020
census.
Population
trends
in
nevada.
A
As
you
know,
one
of
the
charges
for
this
committee
set
forth
is
it
comes
from
scr3
and
it
requires
a
review
of
the
census
data.
So
mr
lawton,
our
state
demographer
again
will
be
presenting
to
us
via
zoom,
on
the
various
demographic
products
in
involving
our
census,
data
specific
to
nevada.
So
again,
welcome
back
mr
lawton.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
and
please
begin
when
you
are
ready.
C
Great
so
again,
matthew,
lawton
nevada,
state
demographer
and
the
department
of
taxation
for
the
record.
So
I
was
asked
to
present
to
this
committee
some
of
the
census
trends
from
the
2020
decennial
census
data
that
has
been
released,
so
I
will
go
through
and
give
some
of
the
high
level
summaries
of
some
of
the
trends
that
we're
seeing
in
the
data
that
has
been
released
to
date,
and
I
also
thought
it
would
be
a
good
opportunity
to
introduce
myself
being
new
to
the
position.
C
Some
of
you
may
be
familiar
with
mr
jeff
hardcastle,
who
is
the
previous
nevada
state
demographer
for
for
20
years?
I
believe
he
presented
to
this
committee,
so
I
have
succeeded
mr
hardcastle
on
this
position
he
retired
at
the
end
of
june.
So
a
little
bit
of
information
on
who
I
am.
I
come
to
the
position
with
quite
a
bit
of
experience
in
the
information
technology
and
geographic
information
systems
field.
C
C
C
There
are
several
statutory
required
reports
and
publications
that
the
state
demographics
office
produces
foremost
being
the
annual
governor
certified
population
estimates
those
are
signed
by
the
governor
on
march
1st
of
each
year.
They
are
a
representation
of
the
previous
year's
popul
state
population.
As
of
july
1st,
so
the
july
1st
2021
estimates
will
go
to
be
signed
by
the
governor
this
coming
march,
1st
2022..
C
In
addition
to
that,
those
estimates,
there's
also
a
five-year
population,
projection
series
that
accompany
those
estimates
on
march
1st
and
then
there's
also
a
20-year
population
projection
series
that
is
published
on
october
1st.
Those
were
just
released
a
few
weeks
ago
on
the
demographer
website
and
they
also
project
the
state
population
by
age,
sex,
race
and
hispanic
origin
cohorts
through
that
20-year
series
other
statutory
requirements
in
the
office.
C
C
I
receive
parcel
and
housing
data
annually
from
the
local
assessors
offices,
and
I
also
have
a
couple
of
agreements
in
mou's
for
the
office.
One
is
with
the
federal
state
cooperative
for
population
estimates.
This
is
a
group
that's
facilitated
by
the
census
bureau.
That
brings
representatives
from
all
50
states
together
to
discuss
methods
of
population
estimation,
and
I
also
help
support
our
state
data
center
affiliate,
which
is
currently
under
the
nevada,
state,
library
and
archives.
C
So
those
are
some
of
the
additional
functions
of
the
office
specific
to
the
census.
The
demographer
has
a
general
charge
to
improve
knowledge
about
the
census
and
to
encourage
data
quality
in
the
census
product.
Again
I
mentioned
that
there's
the
federal
state
cooperatives
for
population
estimation,
there's
also
one
for
population
projections.
They
meet
twice
a
year
once
in
the
fall
once
in
the
spring,
so
I
participate
in
those
groups.
C
Census
bureau,
with
data
gathering
efforts,
things
like
vital
statistics,
data
that
gets
forwarded
to
them
annually
and
also
communicate
with
local
stakeholders.
When
I
was
in
my
previous
position
with
carson
city,
I
worked
with
mr
hardcastle
to
prepare
address
data
in
preparation
for
the
census
at
the
local
level.
So
that's
an
important
function
of
the
demographer
and
also
the
demographer
supports
count
review
initiatives
to
ensure
data
quality.
C
C
Questions
and
requests
on
a
regular
basis
throughout
my
office
is
how
to
access
census
data
and
get
it
out
there
so
that
people
can
actually
use
it.
C
So
when
we
look
at
the
census
products
that
have
been
released,
it's
really
important
to
understand
that
we're
really
in
the
middle
of
the
data
release
series.
There
are
five
major
products
that
are
planned
to
be
released
for
the
census
and
we've
only
had
two
of
them
released
so
far.
C
The
first
one
was
back
in
april
when
the
abortion
results
were
released
at
the
state
level.
This
was
that
data
that
determined
the
congressional
representation
for
the
various
states
nevada.
We
retained
the
four
house
of
representative
seats
that
we
had
previously.
Some
states
did
change
as
far
as
losing
or
adding
representatives.
C
Then
in
august
we
heard
a
lot
of
news
in
the
media
about
census
data
being
released.
This
is
actually
the
second
file.
It
was
the
public
law
94171
file,
as
it's
called
for
redistricting,
and
this
is
the
data
that
that
we're
essentially
talking
about
this
evening.
So
this
is
data
down
to
the
block
level,
which
is
the
smallest
census,
geography
it
includes.
Population
totals
for
state
county
tract
block
group
block
level
as
well
as
race
and
ethnicity,
information,
housing,
occupancy
data,
housing
unit,
counts
and
also
group
quarters
population
counts.
C
Next
up
is
the
demographic
profile.
This
is
tentatively
scheduled
to
be
released
in
2022.
This
is
when
we
will
get
our
first
in-depth.
Look
at
the
age
makeup
of
the
census.
Data
in
five-year
groups
we'll
get
some
sex
information
as
well
as
additional
cross-tabulation
of
race
and
ethnicity
by
age
and
sex,
and
then
also
more
household
data.
Things
like
household
type,
family,
non-family,
tenure
of
the
household
home
ownership.
C
After
that
will
be
the
demographic
and
housing
characteristics
file
that
geography
is
typically
down
to
the
block
level,
but
that's
still
being
determined
by
the
census
again,
we'll
get
more
cross
tabulations
of
age,
sex,
race
and
hispanic
origin,
more
household
data,
more
characteristics
of
group
quarters
and
things
like
household
characteristics
for
marital
status,
cohabitation,
and
then
the
detailed
demographic
and
housing
characteristics
file
will
be
released.
At
some
point
they
don't
have
a
date
determined.
C
C
C
C
There's
a
general
trend
in
the
2020
census,
and
this
has
been
happening
for
the
last
few
decades
of
shifting
rural
population
to
metropolitan
metropolitan
areas
gained
two
percent
population.
Proportionally
we
went
from
84.3
metropolitan
to
86.3
metropolitan
population
that
held
true
nevada,
esmeralda,
eureka,
lander,
lincoln
mineral
persian
and
white
pine.
They
all
posted
population
declines
in
the
2010-2020
decennial
period.
C
However,
we
have
to
remember
that
you
know
the
census
did
take
place
april.
1St
2020,
the
data
is
reflective
of
that
date,
and
that
was
in
the
very
early
days
of
the
pandemic.
Perhaps
the
pandemic
will
change
some
of
these
trends
with
the
the
rise
in
telecommuting.
C
Race
and
ethnicity,
nevada
is
among
the
most
diverse
states
in
the
country,
we're
the
third
highest
in
the
census,
diversity
index,
68.8
percent,
only
hawaii
and
california
have
higher
diversity
index
ratings
and
we
have
the
fourth
highest
diffusion
score:
that's
16
percent
behind
hawaii,
alaska
and
oklahoma.
C
So
what
those
rankings
mean?
So
diversity
is
the
representation
and
relative
size
of
different
racial
and
ethnic
groups
within
a
population,
and
the
diffusion
is
a
measure
of
how
unconcentrated
a
population
is
in
comparison
to
the
largest
racial
and
ethnic
group.
So,
in
a
nutshell,
what
that
means
is
the
chance
that
two
people
chosen
at
random
among
a
population
are
from
a
different
race
or
ethnic
group
and
nevada's
scored
very
highly
in
both
of
those
measures.
C
Nevada's
diversity
is
primarily
driven
by
the
hispanic
population.
Hispanic
is
the
second
most
prevalent
race
and
ethnic
group
in
all
the
counties,
but
one
mineral
county
does
have
the
american
indian
population
as
the
second
most
prevalent
group.
That's
where
the
walker
river
reservation
is
located
and
if
we
kind
of
compare
how
we
stack
up
nationally
at
the
county
level,
we
can
see
that
clark
county
is
actually
number
22
in
ranking
on
the
diversity
index.
So
that's
a
very
high
ranking
among
3143
total
counties
in
the
nation
from
there
in
nevada.
C
You
know
washoe
county
monroe,
county
they're
in
the
300s,
and
then
it
goes
down
from
there.
But
overall
nevada
is
is
very
highly
ranked
among
those
diversity
scales.
C
Other
other
groups
such
as
age,
and
we
don't
have
a
real,
detailed
look
at
age.
At
this
point,
we
only
have
the
data
showing
the
18
and
over
population
versus
the
8
versus
the
under
18
population,
but
the
general
trend
of
nevada
getting
older
holds
up.
This
has
been
the
trend
for
a
while.
Now
the
proportion
of
the
adult
18
and
over
population
increased
by
2.3
percent
from
2010
in
the
state.
C
The
percent
increase
of
over
18
population
was
about
18.6
and
the
under
18
population
only
increased
about
four
percent.
So
we
we
are,
we
are
getting
older
and
that's
primarily
from
migration.
We
have
an
older
population,
that's
in
migrating
adult
populations,
so
we'll
get
it
we'll
get
more
of
a
look
at
that
when
we
get
that
demographic
profile
data
in
2022.
C
For
housing
there
was
a
9.1
percent
increase
in
housing
units
statewide.
The
actual
numeric
change
was
just
over
107
000
housing
units
added
in
the
state
and
our
vacancy
rate
dropped
by
6.2
percent.
So
what
that
means
is
that
our
housing
units
are
are
fairly
highly
occupied,
we're
at
91.9
as
of
the
census
date
occupancy.
C
There
may
be
some
question
as
to
whether
the
pandemic
had
something
to
do
with
that.
You
know
maybe
people
weren't
moving
around
as
much.
They
were
staying
in
their
their
households,
but
that's
something
that'll
have
to
be
examined
closer
to
see
if
there
was
an
impact
on
the
pandemic
in
that
occupancy
rate
from
the
census.
C
C
That
will
provide
even
more
clarity,
more
detail
on
things
like
age,
sex,
race
and
ethnicity,
we'll
get
more
of
those
household
characteristics,
for
you
know
things
like
marital
status
and
you
know
household
type
and
so
forth
and
more
characteristics
of
the
group
quarters
population
as
well.
But
I
know.
C
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you.
B
According
with
the
census,
did
you
realize
any.
C
Yeah,
I
think
the
most
telling
would
be
in
the
housing
unit
counts.
Those
are
comparable
to
data,
that's
provided
by
the
local
assessors
offices
and
I
in
preparation
for
the
annual
estimates,
I'm
just
starting
to
dive
into
that
data,
to
really
see
if
there
are
any
areas
that
maybe
were
under
counted
or
housing
units
that
were
not
included.
So
I
don't
have
anything
definitive
at
this
point,
but
that's
certainly
part
of
that
count.
A
I
As
always,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and,
as
always
the
previous
question
piqued
my
interest,
but
again
I
I
am
concerned,
especially
in
some
of
the
rural
areas,
that
we
were
probably
undercounted
because
of
the
pandemic.
There's
you
know
we
clearly
look
at
even
census
blocks
and
then
you
look
at
google
earth
and
boy.
We've
got
a
lot
of
abandoned
ranches
and
farms
out
there
in
the
world.
So
but
again,
there's
nothing.
We're
really
going
to
do
with
this
other
than
you're
going
to
try
and
track
it
and
verify
it.
C
There
is
a
process
with
the
census
for
account
correction,
so
if
we
do
find
that
there
were
households
that
were
excluded
from
the
count,
we
can
make
them
aware
of
that.
So
there
is
a
mechanism
with
the
census.
It
won't
alter
the
count
as
released,
but
it
will
identify
that
those
those
units
were
not
included
in
the
account.
I
Now,
if
I
may
met
him
chair
or
follow
up,
then
will
will
the
state
demographer
pursue
that
or
will
it
be,
someone
would
call
say
a
local
jurisdiction
or
a
county
would
call
up
and
say,
hey
we're
a
little
concerned
about.
We
show
we're
five
percent
off
or
three
percent
off,
and
yet
we
we
don't
have
a
house
available
in
the
whole
county.
C
A
Thank
you
senator
not
seeing
any
additional
questions.
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
lawton,
for
that
presentation
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
agenda
item
5
and
open
agenda
item
6,
which
is
the
review
of
how
to
draft
redistricting
plans
and
the
overview
of
the
technical
components
of
the
2021,
reapportionment
and
redistricting
cycle.
Thank
you.
Miss
prowl.
As
I
see
you
getting
ready
to
present.
Ms
prowl
is
our
senior
policy
analyst
and
gis
expert
from
lcb's
research
division
and
we'll
lead
this
presentation
on
technology
and
gis
matters.
G
So
today
I'm
going
to
give
the
same
presentation
I
gave
on
saturday
and
will
give
tomorrow.
It
is
on
the
technical
components
of
redistricting,
including
the
software
which
uses
gis
technology,
the
redistricting
database,
as
well
as
how
to
draft
redistricting
plans
and
how
members
of
the
public
can
submit
plan
proposals.
G
So
gis
stands
for
geographic
information
system
and
it
is
a
platform
for
displaying
and
analyzing
location-based
data,
or
essentially
a
mapping
software
that
connects
geography
with
data.
It's
really
the
technology
behind
redistricting
and
how
district
boundaries
and
draft
plans
are
actually
and
I've
included.
G
G
Redistricting
technology
has
come
a
long
way
today.
We
are
fortunate
to
have
high
powered
redistricting
js
software
for
creating
maps,
but
it
wasn't
always
that
way.
In
1980
gis
was
mainly
a
mainframe.
Only
redistricting
was
done
on
paper
maps
mainly
and
map.
Jars
had
to
wait
overnight
to
see
the
impact
of
drafted
plans
when
they
made
changes.
G
G
G
G
G
The
second
main
gis
input
for
redistricting
is
the
population
data.
The
official
redistricting
population
data
set
from
the
census
bureau
is
called
the
pl
94-171
redistricting
data
summary
files.
These
summary
files
are
in
table
format
for
multiple
levels
of
census,
geography
and
include
the
necessary
population.
Characteristics
for
meeting
legal
redistricting
requirements,
including
total
population,
race,
hispanic
or
latino,
ethnicity
and
voting
age
population
and
on
the
right
is
an
example
of
a
pl
94-171
summary
file
at
the
census
block
level.
G
Each
row
corresponds
to
one
census
flock
in
nevada
and
each
has
a
unique
identification
code
called
a
geoid
which
is
in
the
very
left
column
of
the
table,
and
this
go
id
corresponds
to
the
same
geoid
in
the
census
block
tiger
file.
So
we
are
able
to
join
the
population
data
to
the
geography
boundaries
through
a
process
similar
to
how
one
would
join
tables
in
excel,
and
once
this
data
is
joined
to
the
geography
boundaries,
we
can
now
start
building
our
districts
under
usual
circumstances.
G
G
There
were
further
adjustments
made
to
the
2020
census
data
that
was
previously
discussed
tonight
and
that
involved
the
adjustment
pursuant
to
ab450
of
the
2019
legislative
session.
That
reflects
the
reallocation
of
inmates
to
their
last
known
residential
address
prior
to
incarceration,
rather
than
the
address
of
the
facility
in
which
they
were
incarcerated
and
counted
at
on
census
day,
and
these
adjusted
total
population
numbers
are
those
numbers
in
the
redistricting
database
and
available
for
download
on
the
legislators.
Redistricting
website.
G
G
G
Election
data
is
reported
at
the
precinct
level,
but
redistricting
often
takes
place
at
the
census
block
level,
which
is
a
much
smaller
level
of
geography
than
the
precinct
level,
so
the
data
must
be
disaggregated,
and
this
process
of
disaggregation
makes
it
less
accurate
and
more
of
an
estimate.
So
just
a
word
of
caution
when
considering
political
data.
G
For
the
2021,
reapportionment
and
redistricting
cycle,
the
legislature
purchased
redistricting
software
and
hardware
and
hired
additional
technical
staff.
All
at
the
recommendation
of
the
2019-2020
committee
to
conduct
an
interim
study
on
the
requirements
of
proportionate
and
redistricting,
the
redistricting
gis
software
purchased
is
called
auto
bound
edge.
It
was
purchased
through
citygate
gis.
G
Four
desktop
software
licenses
were
purchased
for
the
legislature,
one
for
each
legislative
caucus.
Additionally,
the
web-based
license
was
purchased
for
members
of
the
public
to
be
able
to
participate
over
the
internet
and
submit
redistricting
plan
proposals
and
communities
of
interest
for
consideration.
G
This
is
a
screenshot
of
the
desktop
redistricting
software
for
legislators.
It
includes
many
helpful
tools
to
create
plans
and
assess
whether
they
adhere
to
the
legal
requirements
for
redistricting
on.
The
bottom
is
an
active
matrix
that
updates
population
calculations
for
each
district
in
real
time
whenever
changes
to
districts
are
made,
and
there
are
also
various
types
of
reports
that
can
be
exported
for
any
plan.
G
The
web-based
redistricting
software
for
members
of
the
public,
known
as
my
district
in
nevada,
operates
very
similarly
to
the
desktop
software
there's
an
active
matrix
that
updates
in
real
time
when
changes
are
made,
and
there
are
options
for
reports
and
a
validation
check.
And
it's
really
designed
to
be
simple
and
easy
to
use.
G
Note
that
the
drop
down
menu
for
select
assignment
layer
contains
those
three
levels
of
building
blocks
for
districts
previously
mentioned
count
to
use
precincts
and
census
blocks.
So
users
can
toggle
between
these
layers
to
assign
a
mix
of
these
geographies
to
a
district
in
order
to
accurately
reach
population
targets,
my
district
in
nevada
can
be
accessed
through
any
device
with
an
internet
connection
and
by
users
who
register
with
an
email
address.
G
And
in
closing,
I
will
just
plug
once
again
the
legislature's
redistricting
website,
which
serves
to
supply
legislators,
stakeholders
and
members
of
the
public,
with
information,
data
and
resources
about
the
reinforcement
and
redistricting
process
in
nevada
and
with
that.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
I'll
now
take
any
questions
if
there
are
any.
Thank
you.
A
I
don't
see
any
questions
so
with
that.
I
would
go
ahead
and
close
this
agenda
item
and
open
our
final
agenda
item,
which
is
public
comment
so
again
we're
returning
to
our
second
opportunity
for
public
comment
again
in
the
interest
of
time.
We
ask
that
each
person
limit
their
comments
to
three
minutes.
A
We
will
start
here
in
carson
city
and
then
we
will
move
on
to
those
on
the
phone
lines
so
for
anyone
listening
or
viewing.
Please
start
calling
in.
If
you
would
like
to
make
public
comment
and
with
that
we
can
begin
with
our
first
public
comment.
Please
proceed.
L
Good
evening,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
you
know
I
I
I'm
holly
welborn,
I'm
the
policy
director
for
the
aclu
of
nevada.
I
wasn't
planning
on
testifying
tonight,
but
I'm
I'm
I'm
hot
from
the
presentation
by
the
ndoc
and
I
just
needed
to
make
sure
that
we
get
some
things
on
the
record.
L
L
We
filed
public
records
requests
with
the
ndoc
to
understand
their
process,
their
processes,
the
nevadans
count
coalition,
had
reached
out
to
give
information
to
the
ndoc
on
the
best
way
to
collect
data
from
people
in
our
public
records
request.
We
ask
for
the
process.
Ndoc
follows
if
it
cannot
find
the
last
known
residential
address
the
process.
The
ndoc
follows
to
verify
the
accuracy
of
the
data.
The
process
for
reporting
data
from
an
inmate
whose
last
known
residential
address
is
outside
of
nevada.
L
L
There
are
organizations
and
specialists
who
could
have
assisted
with
those
who
had
trouble,
providing
information
such
as
those
that
have
developmental
disabilities,
etc.
The
fact
that
individuals
with
developmental
disabilities
are
serving
time
in
a
cage
is
a
conversation
for
another
day,
but
there
are
people
who
could
have
come
in
and
helped
with
that
count.
L
From
my
vantage
point,
these
are
just
excuses.
Once
again,
the
ndoc
blames
covid
for
their
shortcomings,
true
to
form
they
refuse
to
work
with
us
and
community
partners
to
do
what's
right
for
the
nearly
12
000
men
and
women
who
will
return
to
our
community
someday
with
that
I'll
leave
that
leave
you
with
that.
Thank
you.
D
D
One
thing
I
was
really
kind
of
surprised
that
I
didn't
hear
about
was
differential
privacy,
so
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
senator
goickachia's
goykichiya's
question
about
when
you
select
a
census,
block
and
you're
getting
zero,
but
there's
clearly
a
ranch
there
or
some
sort
of
other
property,
because
the
census
is
not
allowed
to
release
personally
identifiable
information
for
72
years
after
the
last
census
or
after
the
census
it
was
taken.
What
they've
had
to
do
this
time
is
introduce
error
and
so
each
on
the
on
the
lowest
levels,
the
precinct
and
block
data.
D
There
is
error
built
into
these,
and
so
you
get
you
get
noise,
you
get
statistical
noise
and,
as
you
accumulate
these
blocks
and
these
precincts
that
noise
starts
to
disappear.
The
truly
accurate
accounts
are
the
census.
There
are
the
county
data
but
below
that
they've
added
noise.
This
is
from
the
census
website.
The
redistricting
data
for
will
be
the
first
sorry.
The
redistricting
data
will
be
the
first
2020
census
data
protecting
protected
using
differential
privacy.
D
This
modern
method
protects
individual
information,
while
letting
us
share
important
statistics
about
communities
by
design.
We've
carefully
calibrated
how
much
protection
or
noise
to
add
so
that
the
results
track
a
balance
between
data
protection
and
precision
with
these
parameters,
some
small
areas
like
census
blocks,
may
look
fuzzy,
meaning
that
the
data
for
a
particular
block
may
not
seem
correct.
Importantly,
our
approach
yields
high
quality
data
as
users
combine,
these
fuzzy
blocks
to
perform
more
significant
geographic
units
like
census,
tracts,
cities,
voting
districts,
counties
and
tribal
areas.
D
Our
calibration
was
designed
to
achieve
acceptable
quality
thresholds
for
these
levels
of
geography.
So,
as
you
are
reviewing
the
data
to
build
districts,
keep
in
mind
that
is,
if
you're
having
to
tie
together
districts
using
block
data
that
may
not
be
entirely
accurate
to
what
that
population
is.
For
instance,
there
was
a
block
down
in
clark
county
that
I
noticed
had
386
people
assigned
to
it
and
was
a
vacant
lot
and
that's
because
of
the
differential
privacy
that
the
u.s
census
bureau
is
applying.
D
So
I
really
encourage
the
the
committee
to
kind
of
look
into
possibly
getting
more
accurate
data,
at
least
at
the
precinct
level,
from
the
census
bureau,
but
if
not
possible,
avoid
using
blocked
data
or
using
the
block
level
stuff.
A
Thank
you,
sir,
and
once
again
you
are
welcome
to
submit
all
of
your
comments
in
writing.
Thank
you.
A
B
B
E
B
L,
l,
a
t
o
r
o-
I
am
here
with
children's
advocacy
alliance,
phillips
advocacy
alliance-
is
a
committee
is
committed
to
ensuring
that
every
child
in
nevada
has
the
opportunity
to
be
safe
and
healthy,
with
the
ability
to
enter
school,
ready
to
learn
and
succeed
in
life.
We
are
also
committed
to
ensuring
that
all
registering
processes
and
maps
are
created
fairly
and
that
they
represent
our
children
and
their
communities
accurately.
B
Redistricting
is
supposed
to
be
one
person
one
vote,
so
we
ask
you
to
remember
that
children
cannot
vote
but
will
still
be
counted
in
this
redistricting
process,
please
think
of
them
as
a
population
of
interest
when
drawing
your
map
to
ensure
that
the
distribution
of
children
is
equitable
across
districts
or
their
interests
and
future
are
represented
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
B
K
Hope
you
guys
are
having
a
great
evening
today.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
represented
fairly
appropriately,
and
one
thing
I
really
am
concerned
about
is
gerrymandering.
I
hope
that
we
really
don't
see
any
of
that.
I
have
seen
a
lot
of
this
in
north
carolina
and
illinois,
for
instance,
in
north
carolina.
They
have
a
democrat
governor,
but
they
have
like
nine
gop
house
seats.
We
really
don't
want
to
see
any
of
that.
K
One
area
that
I've
seen
gerrymandering
is
obviously
clark
county
and
you
can
see
how
they
don't
have
one
district
that
only
covers
the
outer
fringes
of
the
county.
You'll
notice,
how
the
district
boundary
lines
how
they
do.
It
is
much
different
than
the
cc
usc
boundary
lines
and
the
legislative
boundary
lines.
K
This
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
a
supporter
of
the
citizenship
question
because
it
institutes
fairness.
My
relatives
were
able
to
get
citizenship.
There
has
to
be
a
difference
between
you're,
a
u.s
citizen
or
not.
It
also
makes
sure
that,
if
things
get
out
of
hand,
then
the
boundary
lines
don't
have
to
change
now.
Of
course,
you
cannot
deny
that
there
is
a
border
crisis
that
we're
having
in
this
country
and
let's
just
say,
if
one
million
happen
to
flood
into
the
state
of
nevada.
K
Yes,
that
will
have
an
impact
on
the
district
boundaries,
and
that
will
also
mean
that
the
power
and
the
influence
of
one
person
will
be
in
jeopardy.
So
this
is
why?
Because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
incentivize
that
behavior
and
keep
in
mind
if
they
have
children.
That
is
also
a
factor
in
population,
but
other
than
that.
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
for
this
meeting
and
we
look
forward
to
represent
everybody's
voices
in
the
next
legislative
session.
Thank
you.
So
much.
B
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
So
with
that,
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
public
comment
and
seeing
no
business
before
us.
I
would
like
to
remind
the
committee
and
the
public
that
we
will
hold
our
next
meeting
tomorrow
morning
at
9
30
a.m,
in
fallon,
at
the
churchill
county,
commission
chambers
again,
that
will
be
at
9
30
a.m
in
the
morning.
So
I
hope
to
see
you
all
there
members,
I
know
I'll
see
you
all
there
so
again.