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From YouTube: 6/21/2022 - Interim Finance Committee
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A
Good
morning
we
want
to
welcome
you
to
the
june
21st
meeting
of
the
interim
finance
committee.
It's
good
to
have
everybody
here
and-
and
I
took
us
a
couple
extra
minutes
to
get
going.
We've
got,
we've
got
people
here,
we've
got
people
online
and
we've
got
people
in
las
vegas.
So
it's
going
to
be
an
interesting
meeting
so
welcome.
We
are
going
to
begin
by
calling
roll.
B
C
B
B
B
B
D
E
B
C
B
F
C
C
A
Dennis
here
thank
you
and
if
you
would
mark
assemblyman,
titus
absent
excused,
please
a
couple
of
reminders.
I
know
we
always
remember
this,
but.
A
Also,
members
that
are
attending
virtually
keep
your
cameras
on
so
the
accurate
count
can
be
taken
when
voting,
and
we
are
it's
going
to
take
us
a
couple
seconds
when
we
do
the
boats,
because
we
got
to
go
to
three
different
things,
so
everybody
be
patient
on
that.
A
Also
we
have
a
long
agenda
today,
and
so
it
is
my
intention
to
take
a
lunch
break,
probably
around
12
30
and
wherever
a
good
breaking
point
is
right
in
that
period
of
time,
and
so
it's
good
to
to
to
be
and
be
here
and
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
serve
and
we're
gonna
have
some
fun
here
for
the
next
few
months,
and
so
with
that
we're
going
to
begin
with
public
comment,
so
we're
going
to
be
taking
public
comment
in
person
first,
so
we're
going
to
start
for
anybody
that
wishes
to
give
public
comment
here
in
carson
city.
A
If
you
come
forward
and
there's
four
seats
there
so
go
ahead
and
fill
them
all
up
after
we
are
done
here,
we
will
go
to
las
vegas.
If
anyone
wishes
to
give
public
comment
las
vegas,
so
you
could
go
ahead
and
queue
up.
There,
if
you
want
and
then
we'll
go
to
anybody,
that's
online
so
and
just
a
reminder
on
public
comment.
A
B
These
are
issues
that
affect
everyone
in
this
state
and
while
we
are
having
a
resurgence
of
people
interested
in
in
mental
health,
I
am
hoping
that
these
arpa
funds
go
for
big
money,
ticket
items
for
the
infrastructure
that
we
can't
afford
in
regular
times
and
so
that
we
can
then
continue
on
in
maintaining
them
with
our
regular
revenue.
That
comes
in,
I
hope
and
pray
that
this
is
what
will
happen
through
ifc
through
our
next
session,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
work.
B
Hello,
my
name
is
abby.
At
four
years
old
I
was
diagnosed
with
bipolar
disorder.
I
experienced
manic
episodes
with
rapid
cycling.
I
had
so
much
anxiety
and
anger
all
at
once
by
middle
school.
The
mania
turned
to
depression.
I
was
bullied
by
other
students
which
led
to
binge
eating.
I
went
to
multiple
schools,
promising
resources
and
support
that
never
materialized.
B
B
She
broke
my
spirit
and
I
tried
to
commit
suicide.
At
10
years
old,
my
family
was
devastated.
The
right
kind
of
support
and
resources
are
almost
impossible
to
find
my
mother
advocated
fighting
for
support
and
resources
that
never
giving
up
on
me.
County
services
are
impossible
to
access
on
your
own.
B
B
A
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
anyone,
let's
go
down
to
las
vegas.
Anyone
in
las
vegas
wishing
a
good
public
comment.
If
you'll
come
forward,
I
think
there's
two
seats
at
least
two
seats
there,
I'm
not
seeing
anyone
coming
forward
there
senator
hardy
is
that
accurate
nobody's
coming
forward.
A
You
very
much
okay,
let's
bps!
If
you
would
bring
up
the
first
caller
online.
B
K
Hello,
my
name
is
julia
raddy
and
I
am
the
director
of
policy
and
I'm
sorry,
director
of
programs
and
projects
at
the
watcho
county
health
district,
I'm
also
serving
as
the
chair
of
the
washoe
regional
behavioral
health
board.
I
will
have
to
say
that
the
board,
due
to
the
timing
of
this
meeting
agenda,
was
not
able
to
take
a
position.
So
I'm
here
speaking
for
my
talk,
I
say
a
warm
hello
to
all
of
you
and
would
like
to
testify
in
support
of
items
8,
17,
18
and
20..
K
K
K
In
the
last
legislative
session,
we
did
significant
work
around
long-term,
sustainable
funding
through
medicaid
rate,
a
significant
portion
of
the
operating
costs
can
be
funded
by
payers
where
there
is
a
gap
we
pass
at
the
390,
which
will
create
a
fee
on
phone
lines
which
will
help
to
fill
in
any
gaps
in
funding
in
their
crisis
response
system,
where
we
have
a
barrier
to
standing
up
to
crisis.
Stabilization
centers
is
the
startup
costs
and
the
20
million
dollars
that
you
have
on
your
agenda
today
would
help
us
get
across
that
barrier.
K
H
K
K
The
increase
that
the
stipend
that
fosters
get
will
end,
and
so
we're
asking
that
you
really
support
a
lot
of
those
initiatives
put
forth
by
administrative
pit
locks
and
so
many
more
that
are
in
support
of
really
saving
and
investing
in
the
lives
of
young
people
across
the
state.
So
thank
you
so
much.
K
Hello,
I
am
steve
shell
vice
president
of
behavioral
health
for
renowned
health,
the
largest
health
system
in
northern
nevada.
I
am
also
the
board
president
for
nami
nevada,
the
statewide
office
for
the
national
alliance
on
mental
illness.
During
my
12
years
in
nevada,
our
state
has
remained
in
last
place
for
mental
health
in
the
united
states.
K
It
is
imperative
that
we
finally
improve
this
ranking
in
order
for
all
nevadans
to
receive
the
mental
health
treatment
and
support
they
deserve.
The
creation
of
crisis.
Stabilization
centers
throughout
nevada
will
divert
individuals
away
from
emergency
rooms
and
jails
that
we
know
are
not
appropriate
treatment
environments
for
individuals
that
are
in
a
crisis
related
to
mental
health
and
or
addiction.
K
I
strongly
encourage
the
committee
to
approve
items
h17
and
h18
for
the
transfer
of
20
million
dollars
to
to
the
department
of
health
and
human
services,
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health
for
the
creation
of
crisis.
Stabilization
centers
and
I
also
strongly
encourage
the
approval
of
item
h20
for
10
million
dollars
to
provide
crisis,
triage
residential
treatment
and
inpatient
care.
K
K
Good
morning,
chris
bailey
nevada
state
education
association,
the
voice
of
nevada
educators
for
over
120
years.
Unfortunately,
there's
no
sugar
coating
it.
The
state
of
public
education
is
dire
for
decades.
Nevada
is
ranked
near
the
bottom
of
states
in
education,
funding
and
quality.
Now,
with
the
additional
challenges
of
the
last
two
years,
we
have
an
unprecedented
shortage
of
educators
to
teach
our
kids
and
make
our
schools
run.
K
K
The
operational
impacts
of
the
educator
shortage
in
nevada
will
make
it
impossible
for
schools
to
deliver
adequate
education,
no
less
doing
that,
while
catching
students
up
from
the
last
two
years
time
for
twenty
means,
a
twenty
percent
increase
in
educator
pay
at
least
twenty
dollars
an
hour
for
the
workers
who
make
our
schools
run
time
for
20
means
reaching
an
average
class
size
of
20
students.
This
is
the
right
size
response
to
our
educator
shortage
and
will
get
educators
to
pay.
They
need
to
make
ends
meet
one
time.
K
Retention
bonuses
are
a
nice
gesture,
but
as
prices
are
climbing
faster
than
at
any
point
in
the
last
40
years
with
cpi
now
at
8.3
percent
nevada
needs
to
get
serious
about
raises
for
educators
that
keep
up
with
the
long-term
cost
of
living.
Even
when
inflation
comes
down,
prices
in
the
cost
of
living
almost
always
goes
up.
In
addition
to
unspent
rescue
plan
dollars,
the
economic
forum
received
a
report
from
fiscal
analysis,
division
showing
state
revenue
outperforming
projections
by
25
or
close
to
800
million
dollars.
K
K
Kent
caller
k-e-n-t
e-r-b-I-n
state
president
of
the
nevada
faculty
alliance
representing
professional
employees
at
nevada's,
public
colleges
and
universities.
I
would
like
to
echo
the
written
public
comments
of
janelle,
woodward
and
other
afscme
members.
The
state
urgently
needs
to
address
its
dire
staffing
problems
by
paying
back
furloughs,
restoring
benefits
and
providing
adequate
cost
of
living
adjustment.
Colas
a
large
portion
of
the
arpa
funds
are
specifically
targeted
by
restoring
budget
cuts
due
to
revenue
losses,
which
applies
to
furloughs
and
benefits
cuts.
K
K
K
inflation
from
july
2019
through
may
2022
was
14.3
percent.
We
are
losing
employees
can't
afford
to
continue
working
for
the
state
at
nc.
We
are
losing
early
career
faculty
members
to
positions
in
other
states
because
they
cannot
afford
high
rents
and
because
benefits,
because
benefits
are
standard
at
the
public
employees
benefits
program,
20
26
of
their
positions
are
vacant
and
their
call
center
wasn't
able
to
answer
phones
in
a
timely
matter
during
open
enrollment.
K
K
Thank
you,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
Can
you
hear
me.
K
My
name
is
jonathan
norman,
I'm
the
policy
director
for
the
nevada
coalition
of
legal
service
providers.
Our
coalition
is
made
up
of
varn
northern
nevada,
legal
services,
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada
and
the
senior
law
program,
and
we
are
in
support
of
agenda
items,
age,
17,
18,
19
and
age
20.
in
child
welfare.
We
provide
direct
legal
represent
representation
to
thousands
of
children
in
foster
care.
The
kovit
19
pandemic
has
exposed
just
how
frail
our
system
for
providing
mental
health
services
to
children
in
need
is
foster.
K
Children
cycle
through
congregate
care
settings
like
child
haven
in
clark,
county
to
detention,
to
acute
hospitalization
and
back
congregate
care
facilities,
such
as
child
haven,
are
designed
as
emergency
shelters
for
children.
Ideally,
that's
a
24
to
72
hour
placement.
While
an
appropriate
placement
is
located,
however,
they
are
functioning
as
a
warehouse
for
our
foster
children
with
some
of
the
highest
mental
health
needs.
K
K
Those
same
children
upon
discharge
find
themselves
once
again
back
in
nevada
in
an
inappropriate
placement
with
inappropriate
services,
because
we
lack
children's
mental
health
system
with
appropriate
step
downs,
so
a
child
will
often
transition
from
rtc
to
child
haven
or
a
similar
setting.
It
is
critical
that
we
build
out
infrastructure
to
provide
the
appropriate
level
care
of
care
for
children.
K
It
takes
leadership
at
all
levels
to
create
meaningful
change,
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
hard
work
and
collaboration
and
leadership
of
dr
pitlock
and
the
entire
dhs
hs
team
in
bringing
community
partners
into
the
conversation.
I
also
want
to
thank
this
committee
and
items
age,
17,
18,
19
and
20
are
important
to
our
clients.
Thank
you.
K
Hello,
my
name
is
sonja
witten.
I
am
a
state
employee
and
also
a
member
of
ask
me
local
4041,
I'm
asking
the
members
of
the
ifc
committee
to
work
with
governor
syselek
to
use
arp
funds
to
reimburse
the
furloughs
that
we
took
last
year
now.
I
feel
that
it
is
unreasonable
for
state
nevada
employees
to
continue
to
wait
to
be
made.
K
We
are
always
the
first
when
budget
cuts
are
are
being
made.
We
are
always
on
the
chopping
block,
so
please
consider
making
state
nevada
whole
and
restore
the
furloughs
that
were
taken.
I
would
also
ask
that
you
use
whatever
funding
is
available
to
make
pebb
more
affordable,
because
healthcare
costs
have
skyrocketed.
Thank
you.
B
Good
morning,
distinguished
chair
and
members
of
the
interim
finance
committee,
my
name
is
dr
tiffany
tyler
garner,
I'm
calling
on
behalf
of
the
children's
advocacy
alliance,
to
implore
you
to
consider
and
approve
federal
critical
investments
proposed
for
children
and
families,
including
items
aged
17
through
20,
as
well
as
30
and
31.
At
a
time
when
we
have
children
languishing
in
our
emergency
rooms
and
parents
surrendering
their
children
to
the
child
welfare
system,.
B
K
Good
morning
this
is
dan
musgrove
and
I
apologize
for
not
being
there
in
person
just
tested
negative
for
for
kobe
just
a
few
days
ago.
So
anyway,
it's
good
to
talk
to
all
of
you.
I
want
to
say
good
morning
to
the
interim
finance
committee,
I'm
wearing
a
number
of
hats.
K
This
morning,
past
chair
of
the
clark
county,
children's
mental
health
consortium,
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
clark
county,
regional
behavior
health
policy
board
on
behalf
of
hospitals,
and
I
also
represent
the
valley
health
system
of
hospitals,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
the
previous
comments
by
senator
ratty
others,
tiffany
garner
with
children's
advocacy
alliance
and
many
others
who
spoke
on
the
important
items
of
age,
17,
18,
19
and
20..
K
It's
so
important
that
these
items
be
approved.
It
lays
the
foundation
for
an
entire
system
of
health
care
when
it
comes
to
mental
health
and
behavioral
health.
You
know
it
affects
children,
youth
and
families,
and
we've
got
to
have
this
crisis
stabilization
programs
in
place,
and
especially
this
hasn't
been
mentioned.
As
988
comes
into
effect
july
1.
K
We
have
to
have
places
for
people
to
go
and
families
and
children
to
go,
or
there
will
be
a
breakdown
in
the
system
that
we've
seen
for
many
many
years,
and
so
I
just
so
appreciate
the
work
that
all
of
hhs
under
the
direction
of
director
whitley
and
his
leadership,
whether
it's
department
of
public
and
behavioral
health
with
dr
woodard,
whether
it's
cindy
pitlock,
dr
pitlock,
with
dcfs,
dr
megan
freeman,
as
well
as
the
governor's
office
and
now
this
legislature
and
truly
this
is
generationally
transformational
money
that
arpa
could
potentially
put
into
the
mental
health
system.
K
K
As
we
look
to
do
external
quality
review
of
our
managed
care
organizations.
As
we
know,
the
man's
care
organizations,
especially
in
clark
and
washoe,
have
a
great
deal
of
work
dealing
with
the
behavioral
health
programs
and
those
that
are
impacted,
and
so
it's
important
that
we
make
sure
that
they
too
are
following
system
of
care.
K
B
B
I
would
like
to
second
everybody
or
I
sorry
I
agree
with
what
the
prior
calls
and
public
comment
are
set.
I
want
to.
I
don't
know
who
needs
to
hear
this.
We
are
blind
and
when
people
are
saying
item
17
item
8,
you
guys
agenda
is
not
accessible
to
people
who
are
blind.
So
I'm
on
it
and
I'm
trying
to
see
item
17
item
a31.
I
can't
I
don't
know
which
one
is
what
so.
I
would
extend
a
hand
to.
B
B
Americans
with
disabilities
act
is
in
its
32nd
year
and
I
would
really
love
it
if
state
of
nevada
is
accessible
for
all.
So
people
like
myself,
who
are
teaching
the
k-12
kids
to
navigate
the
legislative
and
learn
how
to
be
an
advocate
for
themselves,
will
be
able
to
learn
and
navigate
and
be
able
to
call
in
and
and
make
their
voice
heard.
I
appreciate
you,
chair,
dennis
and
vice
chair
carlton
and
everyone
for
hearing
me
out.
Thank
you
and
and
take
care.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We
want
to
thank
all
of
you
that
have
given
public
comment
this
morning,
just
a
reminder
that
we
will
have
public
comment.
Also
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
we'll
now
go
to
item.
Actually,
I'm
going
to
take
items
c
d
and
e
together
they
are
c
is
the
minutes
of
the
december
9th
2021.
Meeting
d
is
the
minutes
of
the
december
21st
2021
and
e
is
the
approval
of
minutes
from
the
february
9th
2022.?
A
M
A
Say,
nay,
okay,
that
was
here.
Let
me
let
me
go
back
now.
All
of
those
are
online
to
say
I
just
raise
your
hands.
I
think
we
can
see
that
okay
and
anyone
wishing
to
vote
nay
and
then
down
in
las
vegas
senator.
How
do
you
vote.
F
A
Thank
you.
Okay.
The
motion
passes.
We
will
now
go
to
item
number
f
work
program,
revisions
in
accordance
with
nrs353.2205b.
A
This
is
an
informational,
only
item
and
it's
something
it's.
It's
required
expeditious
action
within
15
days,
so
no
vote
is
needed
on
this
one.
There
are
only
two
work
programs
on
the
list.
If
no
members
have
questions,
then
we
can
move
on,
but
anybody
have
any
questions
here
online
or
down
in
las
vegas.
A
Or
get
on
the
mic
and
just
tell
me,
but
okay,
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
asking
any
questions,
so
we
will
then
move
on
to
item
number
g,
which
is
the
statement
of
american
rescue
plan
act
grown
up
by
the
state,
physical
recovery
fund
obligations
and
remaining
reserve
balances
within
the
kova
19
relief
program's
budget.
G
I
thank
you
chair
dennis
vice
chair
carlton
members
of
the
interim
finance
committee
for
the
record.
I
am
brody
lyser
with
the
fiscal
analysis,
division
of
the
legislative
council
bureau,
I'm
presenting
agenda
item
g,
which
is
the
statement
of
american
rescue
plan,
act,
coronavirus,
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
obligations
and
remaining
reserve
balances.
G
If
all
items
submitted
for
consideration
today,
which
total
171.4
million
dollars
are
approved
by
the
committee,
the
remaining
balance
of
unobligated
funds
for
the
coronavirus
state
fiscal
recovery
funds
would
be
approximately
1.1
billion
dollars,
as
displayed
toward
the
bottom
of
the
summary
sheet
pages.
2
152
through
254
detail
the
obligations
approved
to
date
and
the
items
submitted
for
consideration
by
the
committee
today
begin
on
page
255..
G
G
Modernization,
there's
seven
requests
totaling
4.7
million
dollars
to
allocate
funds
from
the
100
million
dollars
set
aside
for
state
agencies,
75.9
million
dollars
for
the
department
of
agriculture
to
provide
universal
free
school
meals,
50
million
dollars
to
provide
child
care
subsidies
for
families,
20
million
dollars
to
establish
behavioral
health
crisis,
stabilization,
centers
and
10
million
dollars
to
bridge
and
provide
crisis
triage
services.
While
the
stabilization
centers
are
being
established
and
a
request
to
move.
200
million
dollars
authorized
and
previously
obligated
through
assembly
bill
495
from
reserves.
G
G
I
would
note
that
there
are
six
items
on
page
259
under
the
section
for
allocations
of
the
100
million
dollars
in
authority
for
state
agencies
that
were
approved
by
the
governor's
office
and
did
not
require
approval
of
the
ifc.
As
indicated
on
the
statement,
these
six
items
are
on
the
list,
with
dates
of
may
6
through
june,
8th
2022,
as
displayed
on
page
260
of
your
meeting
packet,
considering
allocations
previously
approved
by
the
interim
finance
committee
and
approved
by
the
governor's
office.
G
A
I'm
not,
I
know
that
we
have
susan
brown
here
state
budget
director.
I
have
one
question:
maybe
you
can
answer
that
for
me.
A
A
We
want
to
take
the
opportunity.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
I
know.
You've
been
the
state
budget
director
for
a
few
years
and
and
we've
been
with
the
state
for
for
many
years
on
financial
issues,
and
now
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
work
with
you
many
times,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to.
I
don't
know
where
in
the
agenda
we
would
have
had
the
opportunity
to
do
this.
A
All
right
anybody,
I
have
questions
for
her
while
she's
there
we
can
grill
her,
no
okay.
Thank
you
very
much
all
right.
We
don't
there's
nothing
to
vote
on
this
one.
So
we
will
now
move
on
to
I'm
gonna.
Ask
mr
thorley
to
go
over
items
and
list
h
I
and
s
that
have
been
pulled
for
discussions
and
after
he
is
done.
If
you
have
any
that
you
wish
to
pull,
I
haven't
received
anything,
but
if
you
have
well
at
that
point
I'll
ask
for
those.
So
mr
thornley.
O
And
then,
lastly,
on
the
bottom
of
page,
six
and
top
of
page
seven
of
list
h
items,
30
and
31,
department
of
health
and
human
services,
welfare
and
supported
services.
O
O
O
O
And
on
to
the
following
pages,
there
are
a
handful
of
items
that
will
be
heard
together
so
item
71,
72,
73,
74,
75,
76,
77
and
98
will
all
be
heard
together.
So
again,
that's
71
72
73,
74,
75,
76,
77
and
98.
O
The
last
item
that
that's
it
for
items
on
list
I,
but
the
last
thing
I
would
like
to
note-
is
on
page
25
of
list.
I
item
136
department
of
public
safety
investigation
division.
O
O
On
page
3
of
the
list,
the
last
item
number
17
economic
forum
report
regarding
the
economic
forum
meeting
concluded
on
june
10th
2022.
That
will
be
pulled
for
discussion
and
those
are
all
the
items
mr
chair
in
lists
h.
I
and
s.
A
Okay,
any
any
any
questions,
any
additional
ones.
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
have
some
women
howard
he's
going
to
give
a
motion
so
that
we
can
approve
these
okay.
A
Any
further
discussion
on
the
motion,
all
in
favor
say
aye
any
online
raise
your
hand
and
down
in
las
vegas,
senator
hardy
hi,
any
opposed,
say,
nay
in
here
any
online
okay.
The
motion
passes.
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we're
going
to
take
just
well.
We
don't
really
need
to
take
a
break,
it's
not
full!
A
But
if,
if
anybody
that
was
here
for
their
items-
and
we
just
passed
those
you're
welcome
to
to
to
leave,
but
you
can
stay
with
us
and
enjoy
the
day
if
you
want
all
right
so
we're
going
to
go
then
to
let's
see,
let's
go
to
h
first
and
I
believe
we're
going
to
go
to
h,
15
and
16
office
of
the
governor,
coven,
19
relief
programs,
and
I
think
we
have
jennifer
ott
director
of
department
of
agriculture.
A
As
well
as
the
division
administrator,
the
gfo
and
others,
and
in
addition,
we
also
have
the
state
superintendent
of
public
instruction
joan
eber.
So
if
there's,
if
as
we
get
through-
and
we
have
questions
we'll
bring
them
up
so
welcome
good
morning,
go
ahead.
Good.
J
As
you
all
are
aware,
this
past
spring
congress
chose
not
to
pass
the
waivers
or
the
fundings
that
allow
for
universal
school
meals
to
continue
for
this
next
school
year,
which
left
many
of
nevada's
children,
almost
50
percent
of
nevada's
children
without
a
guaranteed
school
meal
for
this
next
school
year
through
the
75
million
dollars.
That
is
in
front
of
you
today.
J
It
allows
the
department
of
agriculture
to
offer
one
more
school
year
of
free
school
meals
to
the
children
in
nevada,
allowing
them,
especially
in
these
uncertain
times,
to
have
a
little
bit
of
certainty
on
nutrition
and
food
in
their
lives.
So
we
are
grateful
that
you're
hearing
this
today
and
I'd
be
happy
to
ask
any
questions.
Answer
any
questions.
A
Okay,
as
we
go
any
questions,
we're
gonna
start
with
the
assemblywoman
miller.
B
J
One
because
then
usda
will
cover
that
portion,
but
also
two
to
help
our
schools
to
get
in.
You
know
back
into
the
you
know,
basically
the
highlighting
it
in
the
application
process.
You
know
for
future
school
years.
A
B
Thank
you
for
that.
Can
you
explain
how?
How
can
you
ensure
that
families
will,
because
it's
been
a
while
since
this
process
has
occurred,
so
how
will
you
ensure
that
the
families
are
filling
out
the
applications
that
the
school
districts
are
requiring
it?
You
know
meeting
the
deadlines
and
as
such,
in
order
to
ensure
that
those
reimbursements
are
taking
place
and
and
the
weight
of
it
isn't
on
the
arpa
funds
or
ultimately,
the
state.
P
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblywoman
miller,
for
the
record.
My
name
is
joan
ebert.
I
serve
as
the
state
superintendent
of
public
instruction,
so
as
this
transition
has
occurred,
director
and
myself
have
met
with
all
of
the
superintendents
multiple
times
to
make
sure
that
they
fully
understand
the
shift
again,
the
superintendents,
the
schools
and
especially
on
behalf
of
our
children.
P
All
of
that
work
that
we've
done
in
the
past
or
the
school
districts
have
done
in
the
past,
not
only
taking
that
work,
but
amplifying
it
in
a
different
way,
because
we
have
so
many
more
students
that
do
qualify
for
free
and
reduced
lunch.
So
we
will
continue
to
work
actually
and
I've
already
started
the
work,
those
families
that
are
receiving
access
and
support
now
making
sure
that
they
understand
and
that
paperwork
is
completed
in
a
timely
manner.
P
A
Thank
you.
I
had
a
question
from
assemblyman
monroe
moreno
did:
did
your
question
get
answered
or
do
you
still
have
a
question.
B
You'll
have
a
question,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
actually
two
questions.
So,
as
miller
noted,
you
know,
prior
to
the
pandemic,
we
had
a
number
of
schools.
First,
that
were
all
the
students
received
free
or
reduced
lunch
at
those
schools.
What
will
happen
at
those
schools
would
be
my
first
question.
Well,
those
parents
who
didn't
have
to
do
paperwork
before
the
pandemic
now
have
to
do
paperwork,
submit
paperwork
and
then
my
second
question
is
because
parents
for
throughout
the
pandemic
didn't
have
to
do
the
paperwork.
B
We
know
there's
a
lot
of
families
for
whatever
reason
or
not
may
not
submit
those
that
paperwork
does
and
therefore
they
would
make
it
difficult
for
the
the
district
to
get
the
information
if
they
don't
obtain
that
paperwork
or
submit
the
eligibility
applications
for
those
families.
Has
there
been
any
consideration
made
to
require
the
districts
to
pay
for
the
difference
in
the
cost
between
the
reduced
price
or
paid
mail.
J
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
question
through
your
chair,
jennifer
ott,
for
the
record
to
answer
your
first
question.
There
were
schools
and
districts
prior
to
the
pandemic
that
were
receiving
free
meals.
That's
called
community
eligibility
provision.
It's
a
program
through
usda,
where
once
a
school
or
a
district
meets
a
certain
threshold,
the
school
or
the
district,
or
even
the
county
could
be
considered
cep
and
they
will
get
free
school
meals,
both
breakfast
and
lunch,
so
that
program
still
exists.
J
Our
nutrition
staff
for
the
last
several
years
and
even
during
the
pandemic,
has
been
working
with
schools
to
enroll
in
that
cep,
community
eligibility
program,
knowing
that
you
know
eventually
this
would
happen
so
we're
continuing
to
work
on
that
progress
and
and
build
on
the
progress
that
we've
made.
Currently
453
schools
in
the
state
are
cep
eligible,
and
this
program
here
in
front
of
you
today
does
not
alter
that
they
will
still
be
cep
through
usda.
J
The
reduced
meal
will
be
reimbursed
by
usda
and
the
funds
from
arpa
in
front
of
you
today,
and
the
paid
mill
will
be
reimbursed
through
the
arpa
program,
so
there
will
not
be
an
additional
burden
on
the
schools
and
we're
actually
we're
making
significant
effort
in
our
computer
program
to
ensure
that
that
doesn't
happen.
We
want
this
to
be
seamless.
J
J
J
A
Thank
you,
and
maybe
I
can
clarify
a
little
bit
so
we've
got
this.
These
meals
that
are
being
provided,
and
what
you
have
mentioned
is
that
you
use
arpa
funds
to
make
up
the
difference.
A
But
if
they
don't
fill
out
the
application
for
the
free
and
reduced
lunch,
then
the
full
amount
gets
reimbursed
from
the
arpa
funds.
So
I
think
what
the
question
was
that,
since,
if
they
were
to
fill
that
out,
then
then
there
would
be
less
of
a
reimbursement
that
that
has
to
come
from
the
arp
offense
and
there
would
be
arbor
funds
available
for
other
things.
Does
that
make
sense.
J
J
But
what
we
are
cognizant
of
is
that
one,
if
the
form
is
not
filled
out,
the
child
shouldn't
suffer
by
not
having
a
meal
and
two
just
because
a
family
is
not
eligible
for
free
and
reduced.
Lunch
doesn't
mean
that
there's
some
sort
of
food
insecurity
or
other
gap
there
that
they're
not
receiving
a
meal,
and
so
that
is
what
we're
trying
to
ensure
that
those
children
are
are
covered
and
there's
is
one
more
year
of
surety
for
our
school
children.
A
And
that
and
that's
great
I
don't
think
anybody
questions
that
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
seamless
for
kids
and
that
they
have
food.
I
I
think
the
the
the
big
question
was:
is
there
an
incentive
for
school
districts
to
do
it?
Because
if
it's
going
to
get
paid
for
then
then
why
even
have
them
fill
out
the
paperwork
because
they
know
it's
already
taken
care
of.
J
Jennifer
ought
for
the
record.
I
completely
understand
that,
and-
and
you
know
the
governor
gov's
office
will
tell
you
that
I
have
committed
to
working
this
summer
and
throughout
the
fall
to
make
sure
school
districts
and
our
frankly
frl
is
not
just
enough.
We
want
to
get
schools
and
school
districts
sign
up
for
the
community
eligibility
provision
is
what
really
our
goal
is.
So
we're
continuing
on
that
effort.
A
J
Jennifer
ought
for
the
record.
The
cep
process
is
easier.
It's
certainly
easier
for
the
parent
and
the
student,
it's
it's
the
process
for
the
school
and
the
school
district.
There's
once
you're
determined
eligibility.
We
work
through
the
schools
or
the
school
districts
to
help
them
through
that
process
and
once
they're
considered
eligible
and
approved,
then
it's
it's
absolutely
an
easier
way
to
go.
M
M
I
can
understand,
then,
where
the
concern
is
is
getting
the
school
districts
to
actually
apply
because
look
everybody
gets
to
eat
freeze,
so
there's
no
burden
to
be
born
by
any,
but
I
also
understand
going
forward
at
some
point.
This
money
will
run
out
and
we
will
end
back
end
up
back
in
in
the
queue
where
you
as
a
parent
or
the
school
district
will
have
to
apply
for
the
free
and
reduced
lunch
down.
The
road
is
that
correct.
J
Jennifer
ought
for
the
record,
if
approved
today
next
year,
for
the
next
school
year,
the
24
25
school
year.
There
will
have
to
be
applications,
because
the
universal
lunch
program
will
not
be
in
effect.
Okay,.
M
M
If
this
is
approved,
then
we
get,
let's
see,
I
think,
we'll
have
22
23
paid
for,
but
then
again
in
2425.
That
would
be
off
the
board:
correct.
Okay,
it's
getting
a
little
clearer!
So,
okay,
that's
and
so
I
can
understand
the
concern.
But
at
this
point
for
the
next
school
year
everybody
eats
it
doesn't
matter
whether
they
fill
paperwork
out
or
not.
You
get
breakfast
and
lunch
now
that
includes
probably
the
weekend
the
day
packs
and
that
program
as
well.
J
Jennifer
up
for
the
record,
the
first
part
of
your
question
is
correct.
Yes,
everybody
will
eat
breakfast
and
lunch.
The
backpack
programs
are
under
a
different
program
and
those
are
still
running.
M
J
A
Okay,
we
have
several
questions.
I'm
going
to
go
to
some
of
them
and
roberts.
G
J
J
J
The
usda
pays
for
a
portion,
and
then
the
funds
in
front
of
you
today
will
be
used
for
the
remaining
portion,
and
then
the
paid
meals
will
be
covered
by
the
funds
in
front
of
you
today
and
so
the
encouragement
is
there
a
requirement
for
forms
to
be
filled
out?
No,
but
that
is
sort
of
the
discussion
is
that
we
are
really
encouraging
for
parents
and
students
to
fill
out
these
forms
for
schools
to
help
us
in
this
enrollment
of
these
forms,
so
that
as
much
is
covered
by
usda
as
possible,.
G
Let's
just
follow
up
mr
chair,
so
registration
faculty
goes
over
this
with
parents
right
that
your
kid
could
be
eligible.
P
Yeah
superintendent
ebert
for
the
record:
yes
for
our
school
districts,
it's
part
of
the
process
that
they've
had
in
the
past
they're
going
to
amplify
it
and
are
definitely
aware
that
we
want,
as
many
families
identified
properly
as
as
we
know,
this
is
only
one
year,
and
so
this
will
continue
beyond
as
well.
Okay,.
A
L
B
B
A
Come
back,
thank
you.
Senator
hammond.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
I
apologize,
but
you
know
you
did
say
that
you've
been
spending
a
lot
of
time
with
superintendents
trying
to
get
them
to
understand.
This.
We've
only
been
doing
it
for
a
few
minutes
here,
so
I
apologize.
I'm
still
kind
of
lost
a
little
bit
so
you're
you're,
basically
telling
me
that
right
now
we're
going
to
try
and
recoup
some
of
the
cost
of
paying
for
breakfast
and
lunch
by
making
sure
kids
who
are
eligible
according
to
federal
standards
for
free
or
reduced
lunch,
fill
out
an
application.
Q
However,
if
your
child,
if
you,
if
I
can
afford
to
feed
my
children,
they'll
still
get
fed,
if
they
ask
for
a
school
lunch,
they'll
still
be
given
a
school
lunch,
but
the
reimbursement
won't
happen,
because
that
parent,
probably
won't
fill
out
an
application
and
even
if
they
do
fill
out
an
application,
they
don't
qualify
for
later
reimbursement
would
or
unless
I'm
wrong
about
that
and
they
would
qualify
under
this
particular
program.
That's
my
first
question
yeah.
Is
that
correct?
J
Chairman,
if
I
could
answer
that
first
question,
jennifer
up
for
the
record:
no
money
is
going
to
the
parents,
so
we're
not
paying
parents.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
on
that.
The.
J
Q
Okay,
so
I
understand
that
part
now
but-
and
I
know
you
don't-
want
to
use
that
particular
term-
that
we're
paying
the
parents,
but
we
are
paying
for
children
to
have
a
lunch,
so
I
can
send
my
kid
not
have
to
worry
about
it,
but
that
comes
out
of
the
money
that
we're
allocating
today.
However,
if
we
get
more
kids
who
are
eligible
to
fill
out
the
form,
then
the
money
that
we're
spending
today
decreases
and
as
the
chair
mentioned,
then
that
money
can
go
to
something
else.
Q
J
And
that
is
the
the
that
is
the
purpose
but
find
behind.
What
superintendent
ebert
was
saying
is
is
making
sure,
as
many
students
are
enrolled
under
the
free
and
reduced
lunch
as
possible,
so
that
as
much
can
be
paid
by
usda
as
possible.
Correct
all
right.
Q
Thank
you
very
much,
and
so
the
only
last
thing
I
have
is
just
the
clarification
on
the
timing,
because
I
I
kept
hearing
24
25
school
year
mentioned,
but
I
don't
understand
that,
because
this
is
the
22-23
school
year
coming
up
this
month
is
for
the
22-23
school
year.
Jennifer.
Q
A
Thank
you.
Let's
go
to,
let's
see,
senator
neil,
I
believe
you
had
a
question.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
chair.
I
don't,
I
think,
senator
hammond
in
some
weird
universe
asked
a
lot
of
what
I
wanted
to
know,
but
I
guess
when
I
was
reading
the
back
up,
I
this
is
more
of
a
comment
and
then
it's
going
to
be
a
question.
D
I
understand
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
and
the
good
intent
that
I
think
we're
trying
to
cover,
but
I
do
think
that
to
better
to
better
use
the
money
knowing
that
you're
going
to
run
out
after
one
year,
I
think
you
should
take
the
paid
parents
out
of
the
equation.
D
When
I
looked
at
the
backup,
which
was
on
page
347
the
way
you
calculated
your
data
right,
you
you
had
your
data
points
starting
at
october
2021
and
then
you
had
updated
data
actually
through
february
2022
that
that
to
me
that
data
point
couple
things
that
data
point
to
me
seems
to
be
skewed
because
we're
in
june
and
then
also
in
the
in
the
back
up.
It
said
that
october
is
really
the
month
where
we
get
more
informative
points
of
data
around
free
and
reduced
lunch,
and
so
I
just
didn't.
D
I
didn't
understand
why
you
use
that
data
point
and
then
why
you
use
paid
parents
in
your
three
points
of
calculation.
D
The
way
that
you
built
this
number,
I
think
is,
is
slightly
flawed
because
you
put
three
categories
in
there
of
the
paid
eligible
and
I
don't
think
the
paid
eligible
student
should
even
be
a
part
of
the
data
point
that
you're
examining
and
and
nor
should
that
period
of
time
from
from
october
2021
to
february
2022.
D
D
Like
that's.
Those
are
my
issues,
so
I
don't
know
if
that
made
things
worse.
But
those
are
my
concerns.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
go
to
our
next
question,
which
is
assemblyman
carlton
vice
chair
carlton,.
H
I
think
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
this
this
is
kind
of
jump,
the
tracks
a
little
bit.
So
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
I
have
have
this
so
current,
we've
we've
been
providing
these
lunches.
We
will
continue
to
provide
these
lunches.
You
know
if
the
federal
government
would
step
up
and
just
extend
the
program.
We
wouldn't
have
be
going
down
this
road,
but
doesn't
look
like
that's
going
to
happen,
so
I
guess
what
I
would
like
to
know
is
before
covid
hit
and
we
were
doing
this.
What
was
our
number?
H
So
would
it
be
possible
massage
for
you
to
work
with
the
department
of
education
and
get
those
numbers
so
that
in
the
future
we
can
evaluate
where
we
really
are
and
how
we
can
successfully
get
more
dollars
back
from
the
federal
government.
J
Jennifer
ought
for
the
record
absolutely
we
have
those
pre
march
2020
numbers
and
then
the
the
numbers
now
so
we'll
be
able
to
identify
schools
or
districts
by
that.
H
Ultimately,
it
may
be
worth
having
a
discussion
in
a
future
legislative
session
on
not
bothering
with
I
mean,
get
as
much
back
from
the
federal
government
as
you
can
and
then
just
have
the
state
pick
up
the
rest
of
the
tab
so
that
we
can
move
forward
and
keep
providing
free
lunches
to
every
free
breakfast
and
free
lunch
to
every
single
child
that
would
like
it.
So
there's
no
stigma
attached
to
the
children
that
actually
do
receive
these
lunches,
so
it
would
be
good
to
have
those
data
points.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
assemblyman
kasama.
I
believe
you
had
a
question.
C
Yes,
I
do
thank
you
chair.
I
I
certainly
believe
in
free
lunches
for
all
of
those
that
need
it.
If
students
have
an
empty
stomach,
they
can't
learn,
and
we
have
plenty
of
studies
on
that.
So
I
completely
support
these
programs
for
the
children
that
are
needy.
C
However,
based
on
this
recommendation,
it
seems
to
me
there's
two
flaws
with
this:
one:
we're
using
art
money
for
parents
that
can
afford
it
and
two
we're
going
to
use
our
money
for
funds
that
we
could
be
reimbursed
by
the
department
of
agriculture
if
the
forms
are
filled
out.
So
we
are
hoping
with
the
best
intentions
that
all
of
the
forms
are
going
to
be
filled
out.
C
So
we
get
reimbursed
from
the
department
of
agriculture-
and
we
know
many
times
best
intentions,
don't
always
work
so
and
when
I
look
at
the
information
here
prior
to
covid,
you
had
that
in
the
school
systems
57
of
the
students
were
eligible
for
free
or
reduced
lunches.
C
That
means
43
percent
of
the
families
could
afford
to
pay
based
on
the
request
of
75
million.
I
just
took
75
million-
that's
32
million
250
000,
and
I
believe
that
the
art
money
needs
to
be
used
for
these
big
programs
like
the
mental
health,
the
crisis
centers.
I
completely
support
that
those
are
big
items
that
we
can
use
as
our
plenty
for
to
make
a
big
change.
C
I
will
vote
no
on
this,
like
I
said,
I'm
for
free
lunches,
but
not
for
spending
32
million
dollars
for
these
programs
that
I
think
that
money,
I
believe,
should
be
directed
to
and
I'd
like
to
have
the
governor's
office
review
that
that
that
32
million
dollars-
approximately
that's
a
big
ticket
item
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
we
create
something
like
a
section
8
program
with
our
housing
prices.
A
Any
comments
or
okay,
great,
thank
you.
Some
kasama.
A
I
would
have,
I
guess
the
question
I
would
from
that
last
comment
that
I
would
ask
is
if,
if
we
don't
do
this,
then
then
it
might
not
be
seamless
next
year
or
this
school
year
right.
J
A
Okay:
okay:
let's
go
back
sum
lumen
miller.
Did
you
get
your
answer.
A
G
Chair
my
question
is,
is,
I
know,
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversation.
B
And
vice
chair
made
a
great
point
of
maximizing
the
federal
dollars
here.
I
think
that
we
all
are
are
supportive
of
that
and.
H
B
Is
there
a
way
that
we
could,
as
as
part
of
the
motion,
require
each
of
the
schools
as
part
of
their
enrollment
process
to
fill
out?
The
forms?
30
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money
and
and
I'm
fine
with
that
money.
Staying
with
the
school
or.
G
However,
we
see
fit,
but
I
just
think
that
if
there
was
a
way
to
make
it
a
requirement
of
enrollment
to
fill
out
the
form,
we
could
do
exactly
what
the
vice
chair
said
and
maximize
the
the
federal.
A
Okay-
and
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
because
it's
been
brought
up
twice
now,
the
the
the
I
believe
that
the
number
that
someone
missed
kasama
brought
up
is
one
that
she
just
kind
of
figured
out
that
our
staff
would
actually
have
to
figure
out.
If
that
were
what
the
true
amount
really
is
when
it
comes
to
that.
I-
and
I
just
have
one
additional
clarification,
because
we've
talked
about
there's
two
different
programs,
there's
one:
that's
the
community
wine
and
then
there's
this
one
right
is
that
correct.
A
J
A
So
it's
all
okay,
all
right!
That
makes
sense.
I
just
want
to
make
so
then
this
only
deals
with
the
ones
that
are
not
part
of
that
program.
So
if
more
schools
would
apply
for
that,
then
that
would
even
reduce
the
number
there.
A
Q
Q
A
Okay,
because
it
looked
like
they
they
weren't.
Can
you
restate
the
question
so
that
way
they
can
answer
that?
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
curious
if
we
can
make
it
a
requirement
of
the
schools
for
enrollment
that
these
forms
get
filled
out,
so
we
can
maximize
our
federal
dollar
reimbursement.
J
Jennifer
offer
the
record
my
apologies
assemblyman
hafen,
I
I
was
assuming
you
meant
through
this
vote.
I
do
not
have
the
statutory
authority
to
require
schools
or
anybody
to
fill
out
forms
at
this
point.
J
L
B
Was
would
be,
is
is
for
our
staff
is,
is
if
we
have
the
authority
to
do
that
with
the
the
motion.
H
H
A
B
B
Brian
burnley
legislative
council-
I
I
think
that
that
you
probably
couldn't
do
that
through
the
motion.
I
think
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
the
that
would
need
to
be
done
through
a
through
a
bill
that
was
enacted
by
the
legislature
signed
by
the
governor.
A
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
or
comments.
Yeah,
that's
sorry!
I'll
come
back
in
a
second
I'm
gonna
do
center,
go
get
you
and
then
come
back.
M
Thank
you.
I
guess
you
talked
about.
You've
got
433
or
what'd.
You
say
schools
that
presently
qualify
for
universal
free
and
free
and
reduced
lunch.
Okay,
what's
the
criteria
there
to
to
qualify
for
that.
J
Who's
online
homeownership
to
answer
that
question:
it
is
a
it
is
an
eligibility
requirement
that
averages
out
across
a
school
a
school
district
or
a
county
so
houma.
If
you're
online.
B
A
M
I've
got
old
ears
too,
but
anyway,
so
if
40
of
the
students
then
qualify
for
that
than
the
whole
school
does
so
technically,
that's
that's
really
where
your
focus
is
to
try
and
get
as
many
as
these
schools
to
reach
that
40
threshold
and
have
a
university
apply.
That
saves
the
arc
of
funding
and
we
can
commit
it
to
a
different
direction.
I
understand
where
you're
headed,
but
you
know
along
those
lines.
M
I
I
also
am
very
sympathetic
with
the
fact
that
we're
coming
out
of
the
pandemic-
and
it
is
a
struggle
to
get
these
students
back
in
school
and
get
them
getting
them
plugged
back
in
and
that
because
we
have
truly
lost
at
least
a
year
of
education
on
these
kids.
So
I'm
definitely
going
to
support
this
program.
I
think
the
it's.
It's
probably
a
good
place
to
spend
the
money
as
we
can.
We've
got
to
get
these
kids
back
to
normal
and
if
it
means
giving
them
a
free
meal,
that's
where
we
are.
A
Okay-
and
I
think
somebody
there
was
somebody
had
a
question
one
of
the
members
online.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I
I
I'm
new
to
the
game
substituting.
Obviously
so
my
it's
a
very
basic
question.
As
I
read
the
american
rescue
plan
act,
the
reserve
category
is
the
money
we're
talking
about,
so
is
that
reserved
category
limited
to
the
universal
school
meals
or
could
it
be
used
for
mental
health?
F
Oh,
that's
a
good
point.
We
can
reverse
ourselves
and
take
away
the
money
for
those
people
who
don't
need
the
free
and
reduced
lunch
because
they
wouldn't
qualify
officially,
but
they
qualify
because
we're
generous
and
we're
giving
them
lunch
too.
So
it
it's
a
procedural
question,
I
guess,
if
you
could
have
somebody
answer
that.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chair
wayne,
thorley
for
the
record
lcb
fiscal
senator
hardy.
I
I
think
you
had
two
questions
in
there.
The
first
question
regarding
the
american
rescue
plan
at
corona
viral
state
fiscal
recovery,
funds
that
are
in
reserve
that
money
can
be
used
for
any
eligible
expenditure
under
the
program,
so
that
that's
the
answer
to
the
first
question
is:
is
it
it
does
not
have
to
be
used
for
this
purpose?
It
can
be
used
for
for
any
eligible
purpose
under
the
the
guidance
from
the
us
treasury.
O
The
second
question:
if
this,
if
the
work
program
revisions
are
approved,
this
money,
the
75.9
million
dollars,
will
be
obligated
for
this
purpose.
Now
that
could
be.
That
decision
could
be
changed
down
the
road
by
another
another
vote.
But
if
it's
approved
today,
that
money
will
be
obligated
and
set
aside
for
this
purpose
and
will
no
longer
be
available
for
another
eligible
expense
under
the
american
rescue
plan.
Act.
F
O
Thank
you,
mr
chair
again
wayne
thorley
for
the
record
lcb
fiscal
senator
hardy.
If
you
look
at
volume,
one
of
your
packet
meeting
packet-
and
I
know
you
you're-
probably
since
you
were
late
edition-
you
may
have
just
got
the
email
last
night
with
the
link
to
the
meeting
packet.
It's
also
on
the
committee
webpage,
but
on
page
251
of
volume,
one
of
the
meeting
materials
is
the
american
rescue
planet,
coronavir
state
fiscal
recovery
fund
obligations
and
and
declining
balance
spreadsheet
that
mr
leicester
went
over.
O
If
all
the
the
request
to
use
75.9
million
dollars
for
this
program
is
requested
to
come
out
of
what
we've
designated
the
lost
revenue
reserve
balance
under
the
american
rescue
plan
act,
a
portion
of
the
funding
that
we
received
can
go
to
replace
lost
revenue
based
on
a
calculation
that
the
u.s
treasury
developed
in
the.
F
A
Okay,
miss
simulman.
H
That
that
that's
okay
and
thank
you
for
recognizing
me
a
second
time
and
thank
you
very
much,
mr
thorley,
for
making
it
very
clear
that
there's
still
over
a
billion
dollars
left
to
spend-
and
I
don't
think
spending
money
on
feeding,
kids,
breakfast
and
lunch
and
school.
So
we
don't
discriminate
between
the
haves
and
have-nots
at
the
school
and
we
take
that
component
out
and
every
kid
gets.
A
lunch
is
well
worth
spending.
I
know
there's
other
issues
in
the
state,
but
I
think
feeding
kids
should
be
one
of
our
top
priorities.
So
I'm
more.
H
A
We
have
a
second
from
senator
canezaro,
further
discussion
on
the
motion.
Yeah.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair
I'll,
be
quick,
I'm
I
guess.
I'm
just
a
little.
I've
had
a
hard
time
following
the
discussion,
we're
talking
about
feeding,
kids
and
during
the
pandemic,
the
federal
government,
provided
you
know,
free
meals
for
everyone
and
they
stop
doing
that.
So
as
a
state,
we
have
the
choice.
Well,
what
do
we
do?
Are
we
going
to
disrupt
that
or
not
with
the
federal
money
that
we
got
and
I
understand
some
kids
can
afford
the
meals,
but
why
would
we
take
that
away
from
from
kids?
Q
And
in
addition,
this
is
an
opportunity
for
this
committee
to
provide
some
real
relief
to
nevada
families.
I
mean
you
see
the
prices
of
goods
out
there.
The
cost
of
living
is
increasing
everywhere
we
look
whether
it's
gas
prices
or
other
prices.
This
is
a
real
opportunity
for
the
state
to
use
some
of
the
federal
money
to
provide
relief
to
families
who
have
kids
that
are
in
school.
Q
Yes,
maybe
they
can
afford
it-
maybe
they're
not
going
to
fill
out
the
forms,
but
this
is
an
opportunity
for
this
committee
to
make
sure
that
every
student
in
our
schools
can
learn
without
being
hungry
and
if
the
families
get
a
little
bit
of
financial
relief.
For
that,
I
am
all
in
favor
of
that.
So
I'm
in
strong
support
of
this,
and
I
appreciate
you
bringing
it
forward.
A
Q
R
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
want
to
also
thank
the
department
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
I
want
to
agree
with
all
of
the
points
made
by
my
colleague,
simon
yeager.
R
Who,
I
think
to
assemblywoman
carlton's
point
doesn't
want
to
be
the
only
kid
having
to
stand
in
the
free
and
reduced
lunch
line
is
worth
it
and
I
think,
having
kids
who
aren't
hungry
at
school
is
worth
spending
a
little
bit
of
money
to
provide
exactly
the
relief
that
was
just
reiterated
by
my
colleague
to
families
who
could
use
it
even
if
they
can
afford
a
sandwich
for
their
kids,
because
you
don't
know
how
many
kids
you're
really
helping
out
there
or
how
many
families
you're
really
helping
out
there
and
to
me
that's
what
this
art
these
arpa
dollars
were
designed
to
do.
R
There
are
a
lot
of
really
great
things
that
we
have
done
with
these
dollars
so
to
couch
an
argument
against
it
in
terms
of
well,
we
could
be
spending
it
on
other
things,
we're
spending
it
on
a
lot
of
really
great
things.
The
list
that
mr
lizer
went
through.
R
I
was
just
going
back
over
some
of
those
things
as
he
was
reading
through
what
we
have
spent
these
dollars
on,
and
these
dollars
are
designed
to
help
nevada
families
they're
designed
to
help
kids,
who
have
been
struggling
through
the
pandemic,
with
learning
loss
and
with
trying
to
just
make
their
educational
journey
a
little
bit
easier,
and
while
this
might
not
seem
very
important
to
to
some
people,
this
is
an
extremely
important
piece
of
it.
So
I'm
in
strong
support
of
this
and
really
do
appreciate.
R
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
First
of
all,
mr
I
thought
we
had
a
really
good
discussion
and
for
some
of
us
who
weren't
able
to
go
really
through
this
before
as
superintendent
ebert
said
that
he
was
spending
a
lot
of
time
with
the
schools
and
to
let
them
know
the
superintendents
and
the
principles
and
kind
of
understand
what
what
you're
expecting
of
them,
that
you're
urging
them-
and
you
know,
maybe
even
beyond
urging
really
getting
them
to
push
the
the
paperwork.
It's
really
important
and
I
really
like
the
discussion
we
had
about.
Q
You
know
the
fact
that
sometimes
you
know
students
show
up
and
they
don't
they
don't
know
why
they
don't
have
a
meal.
Today.
I
know
my
daughter's
left
the
meal
on
the
counter
several
times
and
left
the
house,
and
I
think
somebody
shared
a
meal
with
her
or
she
got
something
from
the
school
lunch
it.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
she
was
fat,
and
I
understand
that
because
we
don't
know
the
circumstances
behind
them
actually
kind
of
remind
me
of
it.
Q
You
know
back
in
2015
when
I
passed
that
really
cool
bill
that
nobody
else
liked,
and
you
know
we
talked
about
how
sometimes
you
just
don't
know
what
a
family's
thinking
they
just
want
to
go
to
a
different
education
system
or
get
a
different
kind
of
education.
Well,
I
asked
a
question
because
education
is
important.
Feeding
them,
making
sure
that
they're
fed,
so
they
can
learn,
is
also
important.
Q
A
We
have
a.
We
have
a
motion
before
us
all,
those
in
favor
say
aye,
any
opposed,
saying
aye.
A
Thank
you
senator
hardy,
and
did
everybody
raise
their
hand
on
that
day
and
look
all
those
that
are
online,
raise
your
hand
for
your
eye,
any
opposed,
say,
nay,
okay,
so
I
I
think
I
see
kasama.
Is
that
correct?
That's
voting!
No!
Okay,
all
right!
Hopefully,
that's
clear
on
the
record.
The
motion
passes
all
right.
We
will
now
go
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is.
A
All
right,
we
have
17
18,
19
and
20
items
the
office
of
the
governor
cultural
relief
program,
department
of
health,
human
services
of
the
and
we've
got
several
folks
here
so
rather
than
go
through
the
whole
list
of
everybody.
That's
here
go
ahead
and
just
introduce
yourself
as
you
go
and
and
we'll
have
some
questions
for
you
after
you're
done
with
your
presentation.
N
Thank
you
chair
good
morning,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
stephanie
woodard
and
I
serve
as
the
department
of
health
and
human
services
senior
advisor
on
behavioral
health
with
me
today
I
have
dr
cindy
pitlock
she's,
the
administrator
of
the
division
of
child
and
family
services
online.
We
also
have
dr
antonina
capuro,
who
is
a
deputy
administrator
for
the
division
of
cha
of
healthcare,
finance
and
policy.
N
N
You
stephanie
woodard
for
the
record
the
design
of
the
crisis
response
system,
including
crisis
stabilization
centers,
began
in
earnest
before
kovid
and
was
in
direct
response
to
the
community's
needs
to
ensure
care
could
be
accessed
when
someone
experiences
a
behavioral
health
crisis,
while
unmet
need
from
behavioral
health
crisis
was
a
concern.
Prior
to
covid,
we
have
seen
increased
increased
demands
for
behavioral
health
services,
resulting
in
impacts
of
the
pandemic,
which
have
exacerbated
the
unmet
need,
leaving
individuals
and
families
to
seek
care
in
emergency
rooms
or
forego
care
altogether.
N
It
is
estimated
that
in
nevada,
the
total
cost
burden
of
care
without
an
adequate
crisis
system
in
place
is
more
than
506
million
dollars
annually.
The
development
of
a
full
crisis
continuum
will
aid
in
nevada's
economic
recovery
from
the
pandemic
and
alleviate
unnecessary
cost
burdens
to
hospitals,
law
enforcement,
emergency
services
and
families.
N
In
addition
to
the
financial
burden,
the
human
toll
is
also
significant.
In
the
absence
of
a
crisis
response
system,
law
enforcement
must
intervene
with
people
in
need
of
behavioral
health
support.
Long
wait
times
in
boarding
and
emergency
rooms
is
occurring.
Deaths
by
suicide
continue
and
children
are
at
increased
risk
for
out-of-home
placements.
N
Arpa
supplemental
block
grant
funding,
which
is
additional
federal
funds
that
the
state
has
received
and
has
been
approved
through.
This
committee
has
been
leveraged
and
will
continue
to
be
leveraged
to
the
greatest
degree
possible
to
address,
address
the
needs
and
establish
needed
systems
and
services.
N
The
requests
before
you
today
for
american
rescue
plan
funding
will
be
used
to
support
and
grow
nevada's
crisis.
Stabilization
centers,
the
federal
arpa
block
grant
dollars
have
been
allocated
to
support
growing
crisis.
Stabilization
centers,
however
infrastructure
and
tenant
improvement
costs
are
not
allowed.
Expenditures
and
budgets
have
been
submitted
for
crisis
stabilization
centers
that
far
surpass
available
grant.
N
Such
a
system
includes
someone
to
call
someone
to
respond
and
someone
to
support,
often
with
a
place
to
go
for
crisis
support
services.
Crisis
stabilization
centers
offer
the
community
a
no
wrong
door.
Access
to
behavioral
health
crisis
care,
which
includes
screening,
assessment,
stabilization,
withdrawal
management,
peer
recovery,
support
services,
care
coordination,
linkage
and
referral
to
appropriate
levels
of
care
and
safer
suicide
safety
planning
in
a
living
room-like
setting
with
a
within
a
licensed
hospital
facility
crisis,
stabilization
centers
operate
as
a
psychiatric
emergency
department
that
accepts
all
walk-ins
ambulance,
fire
and
police
drop-offs.
N
Many
individuals
in
crisis
brought
to
an
emergency
room
today,
often
have
increased
distress
and
worsening
symptoms
due
to
noise
and
crowding
limited
privacy
in
the
triage
areas
and
being
attended
to
by
staff.
Who
may
have
very
little
experience
in
psychiatric
crisis
crisis
stabilization
centers,
improve
patient
outcomes
through
directly
addressing
behavioral
health
crisis
and
connecting
individuals
to
care
within
a
therapeutic
milieu
designed
specifically
for
crisis
services
simultaneously,
while
nevada
establishes
these
crisis
stabilization
centers
and
the
needed
infrastructure,
adults
and
children
continue
to
experience
behavioral
health
crises
exacerbated
by
the
pandemic.
N
This
is
why
we
are
also
pairing
another
request
for
additional
funds
to
help
to
alleviate
the
emergency
needs
for
behavioral
health.
Today,
populations
who
will
be
targeted
include
children
and
adolescents
experiencing
behavioral
health
crisis,
including,
but
not
limited
to
those
who
are
uninsured
or
underinsured,
as
well
as
children
and
adolescents
who
are
at
risk
for
placement
within
the
child
welfare,
juvenile
justice
system,
or
have
a
need
that
requires
supplemental
funding
to
secure
care
due
to
complexity,
acuity
and
severity
of
needs.
N
You
have
two
work
programs
in
front
of
you
today.
The
first
is
a
request
for
20
million
dollars
to
support
the
necessary
development
infrastructure
for
crisis
stabilization
centers,
and
the
second
is
for
an
additional
10
million
dollars,
which
provides
the
emergency
behavioral
health
funding
that
could
be
enacted
very
quickly
through
state
procurement
processes
to
ensure
we
do
not
have
a
gap
in
providing
emergency
services
for
individuals
who
are
having
a
behavioral
health
crisis.
Now,
while
we
work
to
build
the
necessary
crisis,
stabilization
infrastructure
statewide.
C
Thank
you,
chair
dennis
and
thank
you.
Miss
woodward.
B
For
the
for
the
rundown.
B
Centers,
given
that
we're
using
that
our
grant
funding
to
to
get
it
started-
and
I
know
you
mentioned
a
little
bit
about
future
law
grants,
but
can
you
tell
us
what
the
plan
is.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question
senator
harris
chair.
If
I
may
stephanie
woodard
for
the
record,
it's
a
great
question,
so
sustainability
has
actually
been
on
the
forefront
of
all
of
our
minds
as
we've
been
able
to
determine
how
we
move
some
of
these
projects
forward
and
are
able
to
continue
them.
The
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
establish
infrastructure
in
a
community
with
these
funds
only
to
have
to
take
them
down
or
pull
them
away
when
the
arpa
funds
end.
N
The
good
news
is
that
there
were
actually
two
bills
passed,
one
in
the
2019
legislative
session
and
another
in
the
2021
session,
which
went
a
little
bit
further
in
establishing
the
endorsement
for
crisis
stabilization
centers,
as
well
as
directed
medicaid,
to
establish
a
reimbursement
structure.
So
I
have
dr
capuro
on
the
call
today
who
can
respond
as
it
relates
to
sustainability
within
the
medicaid
program.
N
In
addition
to
that
last
session,
sb
390
was
passed
by
the
legislature,
which
establishes
the
crisis
response
account,
that
is,
that
additional
surcharge
or
fee
on
telecommunications
lines,
which
will
then
be
used
to
generate
revenue
that
can
go
to
provide
additional
sustainability
for
these
crisis
stabilization
centers.
But
if
I
made
sure
I'd
like
to
hand
it
off
to
dr
caporo
in
the
event
that
she
has
any
additional
comments.
Yes,.
B
C
Thank
you
so
much
dr
caprara.
Could
you
tell
us
a.
B
B
This
is
dr
caprara
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Our
deputy
administrator
over
our
fiscal
services,
phil
parell,
is
also
on
the
line,
so
I'd
encourage
him
to
add
any
additional
information.
If
I
don't
completely
cover
this,
but
the
rate
was
assigned
based
on
a
default
daily
rate
which
is
pending
cms
approval,
as
I
mentioned,
and
after
crisis
stabilization
centers
provide
service
for
a
full
calendar
year.
B
I
hope
that
helps
to
answer
the
question.
If,
if
you
would
like
more
specific
financial
information,
I
can
provide
that
to
you,
our
spreadsheets
after
this
meeting.
C
B
A
Thank
you.
Let's
see,
I've
got
similar
peters.
R
Thank
you
chair.
I'm
really
excited
about
this
standing
up.
Our
facilities.
We've
been
working
towards
this
for
a
couple
of
sessions.
Now,
since
I
started
in
the
legislative
body,
my
question
today
about
the
10
million
dollars
being
requested
is
how
do
you
anticipate
you'll,
determine
where
those
fundings
will
be
allocated.
N
Chair
through
you
to
assemblyman
peters,
stephanie
woodard
for
the
record,
these
dollars
are
actually
an
expansion
of
what
we've
been
able
to
allocate
through
a
previous
federal
funding
stream.
So
we
did
receive
federal
funds
through
a
coveted
emergency,
behavioral
health
response
grant.
We
were
able
to
allocate
funding
through
there
and
through
those
we
contracted
through
with
two
hospitals.
N
We
evidenced
that
there
was
extreme
need,
over
and
beyond
what
those
dollars
were
going
to
be
able
to
be
able
to
provide,
as
well
as
the
capacity
for
those
two
hospitals.
N
So
when
there
is
a
third
party
liability
that
can
be
billed
for
these
services,
those
services
would
be
billed
in
the
traditional
way
where
we
have
seen.
Some
of
the
greatest
need
is
where
medicaid
rates
have
been
identified
as
insufficient,
because
the
the
child,
specifically
this-
is
with
children.
N
Their
needs
are
far
greater
than
what
the
hospital
can
traditionally
provide,
or
a
residential
treatment
provider
can
traditionally
provide
sometimes
even
two
to
one
supervision
and
support.
So
these
dollars
would
help
to
alleviate
some
of
that
gap
to
ensure
that
we
have
sufficient
funding
to
provide
the
adequate
level
of
care
and
that
children
need.
A
Okay,
that
answered
okay,
someone
jager.
Q
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair.
First,
just
let
me
say
thank
you.
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
most
consequential
items
on
the
agenda
today.
This
issue
has
been
going
on
a
very
long
time.
We
heard
it
in
public
comment
from
a
number
of
folks
who
really
for
a
decade
or
more,
have
been
trying
to
make
this
happen
in
the
state.
It
reminds
me,
I
think,
the
southern
nevada
forum
that
started
in
2014.
This
was
a
huge
issue
in
the
health
and
human
services.
Q
Healthcare
division
there
of
how
to
make
this
happen
and,
of
course
reminds
me
when
I
was
a
public
defender
and
I
would
see
mentally
ill
people
who
would
go
in
the
wrong
door
and
they
would
invariably
end
up
in
jail
or
prison,
costing
the
city
and
the
state
a
lot
of
money.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
the
no
wrong
door
approach
here.
The
fact
that
you're
not
going
to
need
medical
clearance
for
someone
that
there's
not
going
to
be
this
game
of.
Where
do
you
take
somebody?
Q
So
I
just
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
that
before
I
ask
the
question,
because
I
really
do
believe
this
has
the
ability
to
have
just
a
monumental
impact
in
the
state
and
I
think
it's
the
culmination
of
a
lot
of
effort,
and
this
is
exactly
what
we
were
talking
about
when
we
talked
about
making
investments
with
the
federal
money
to
build
the
kind
of
nevada
that
we
want
to
see.
And
so
here
we
are
and
thank
you
for
the
program.
Q
And
so
my
question
is
this:
I
notice
in
the
20
million
the
15
million
is
going
to
go
to
essentially
four
locations,
two
in
las
vegas,
one
in
reno,
one
in
carson
city.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
then
I
noticed
there's
a
5
million
sort
of
hold
back
for
the
rural
communities
and,
of
course,
rural
mental
health
has
been
a
challenge
because
of
the
lack
of
facilities.
Q
And
so
I
just
wondered,
I
know
we're
not
quite
there
yet,
but
if
you
could
forecast
into
the
future
what
that
five
million
might
look
like
in
the
rural
communities
and
if
your
thought
is
to
to
have
a
site
in
various
rural
communities
or
have
it
centered
somewhere.
If
you
could
just
give
me
a
little
bit
more
clarification
on
that
I'd
appreciate
it.
N
N
So
we
anticipate
bringing
together
our
team
through
division
of
healthcare,
finance
and
policy,
as
well
as
the
bureau
of
healthcare
quality
and
compliance
to
really
provide
some
technical
assistance
to
those
hospitals
to
help
them
understand
what
this
would
look
like
by
way
of
undertaking,
and
then
we
will
run
what
we
would
consider
a
competitive
announcement
very
similar
to
the
way
that
we
have
identified
the
the
four
locations
up
to
up
to
now
and
a
lot
of
that
is
going
to
be
dependent
on
obviously
the
cost
of
the
program.
N
The
readiness
of
the
hospital
to
undertake
this
work
and
then
through
there
we
will
be
able
to
identify,
hopefully
more
than
one
project
to
be
able
to
stand
up
in
rural
communities.
A
Okay,
yes,
we're
going
to
do
a
follow-up
just
on
that
question
before
we
move
on
to
another
one,
so
some
women
go
ahead.
Thank.
R
You
so
much-
and
I
appreciate
being
fit
in
here
just
real
quickly,
because
this
is
kind
of
a
another
layer
on
the
rural
communities.
But
have
you
thought
about
how
this
program
and
funding
would
impact
or
work
with
our
tribal
communities
and
their
clinics
and
other
health
services
provided
on
tribal
lands?.
N
Yeah
cheer
through
you
to
assemblywoman
peter
stephanie
woodard
for
the
record.
Yes,
so
one
of
our
goals,
through
all
of
our
crisis
response
planning,
has
been
to
partner
with
tribal
communities
and
include
that
communication.
N
Certainly,
we
don't
see
any
limitation
for
individuals
who
are
coming
from
any
tribal
population
from
being
able
to
be
excluded
from
making
use
of
these
services.
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
been
working
closely
to
ensure
that
as
we're
building
out
98,
so
the
crisis
call
center,
as
well
as
mobile
crisis,
that
we
are
engaging
tribal
communities
in
those
conversations
as
well.
A
Okay,
senator
gokachen.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
really
appreciate
the
questions.
I've
been
asked
and
probably
the
most
rural
representative
here
I
am
concerned
how
this
con
competitive
process
will
work
and
clearly
want
to
ensure
that
you
know
we
we
fit
that
need
out
there
in
in
the
true
rurals,
whether
it's
battle
mountain
ilioco,
where
the
need
is
there,
you
know,
and
unfortunately,
right
now
we're
transporting
them
to
the
urban
areas
and
it's
a
long
transport
and
not
necessarily
either
cost
effective
or
good
for
the
patient.
So
I'm
very
interested
in
how
you're
doing
this.
A
Thank
you
senator.
Let's
go
to
simulman
kasama.
C
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
fully
support
this.
I
think
it's
so
important.
I
had
a
constituent
write
me,
a
letter
and
perhaps
other
of
my
colleagues
received
it
as
well
with
her
daughter
in
a
mental
crisis
situation
and
the
only
place
they
could
find
to
put
her
in
was
the
hospital
because
couldn't
get
to
the
police,
didn't
have
mental
health,
and
so
they
ended
up
in
a
hospital
in
a
hospital
bed
for
30
days
when
they
needed
mental
health
intervention.
C
And
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
great
use
of
our
arp
monies.
It's
it's
the
hump.
We
need
to
get
over
to
establish
these
stabilization
centers
and
I
think
I
just
wholeheartedly
support.
It
would
even
like
to
see
that
we
could
spend
more
money
towards
our
mental
health
issues,
because
I
think
in
the
long
run
it
saves
all
of
our
communities
from
the
homeless
issues
and
from
them
being
brought
to
the
police.
So
I
I'm
just
very
excited
that
we're
at
this
place
with
our
state.
A
All
right,
anyone
else
have
any
questions.
A
Not
seeing
anyone,
okay,
somebody.
B
Thank
you
chair.
I
move
for
approval
of
h17
h18,
h19
and
h20.
A
We
have
this
motion
by
simon
haudegee,
second
by
senator
canizaro,
any
further
discussion
on
the
motion.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
or
raise
your
hand.
F
A
A
This
one
is
the
department
of
education,
kova,
19
funding.
We
have
state
superintendent,
joan
eber
here
and
stay
and
others
and
the
one
that
knows
all
the
numbers
right,
yeah.
P
5
billion
6
billion
good
morning,
chair
dennis
vice
chair
carlton,
honorable
members
of
the
committee,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
joan
ebert,
I'm
the
state
superintendent
of
public
instruction.
As
you
all
are
aware.
During
the
2021
legislative
session
assembly,
bill,
495
was
passed
with
an
appropriation
of
200
million
dollars
for
the
nevada
department
of
education
to
administer
as
grants
to
school
districts
and
university
schools
for
our
profoundly
gifted
students.
P
Ab-495
is
specifically
aimed
to
address
the
impacts
of
learning
loss
experienced
during
the
result
of
covid19
pandemic.
All
nevada
local
education
agencies
are
eligible
to
apply
for
this
competitive
grant
and
must
describe
how
they
have
expended
or
planned
to
expend
federal
emergency
relief
funds,
which
include
sr1,
sr2,
rpsr
gear,
1
and
gear
two
dollars.
P
I
am
proud
of
the
partnerships
that
we
have
with
our
school
district
and
our
community
leaders
this
body
and
we're
deeply
committed
to
ensuring
that
these
funds
are
spent
on
addressing
the
impacts
of
what
has
transpired
during
covet.
19..
Thank
you
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
we
are
here
to
answer
them.
P
Thank
you,
senator
donald
darrell,
for
the
question
joan
ebert
for
the
record.
We
are
going
to
be
following
our
process
that
we
use
for
competitive
grants,
which
we
do
year
over
year,
millions
billions
of
dollars
with
the
federal
relief
funds,
the
arp
ester
that
I
mentioned
earlier
as
well.
P
A
Yes,
vice
chair
carlton
go
ahead.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
so
and
thank
you,
superintendent,
ebert.
You
answered
a
number
of
my
questions
in
your
opening
statement.
When
I
hear
things
about
you
know
augmenting
programs
helping
to
deal
with
the
learning
loss
and
reporting
back
using
a
scoring
rubric.
That
gives
me
a
level
of
comfort.
My
I
guess
my
you
know
it's
the
the
elephant
is
the
room
is
when
these
monies
are
sent
down
to
the
districts.
What
type
of
controls
will
be
put
on
it
to
make
sure
that
it
actually
goes
there?
H
So,
ultimately,
I
heard
you
say
money
that
has
been
expended.
Would
a
district
be
able
to
apply
for
dollars
on
this
and
use
it
to
supplant
dollars?
They
had
already
spent
then
shift
those
dollars
to
pay
for
something
else.
How
will
your
your
rfp,
your
rubric,
whatever
the
terminology
you're
using
address
possible,
supplanting.
P
P
If
you
are,
I
don't
want
to
assume,
but
I
think
you're
talking
about
a
request
for
pre-approved
dollars
that
have
gone
through
an
application
process.
Could
they
ask
that
their
application
be
revisited,
and
the
answer
to
that
is
yes.
H
Thank
you
very
much
superintendent.
I
I
think
I
may
have
not
quite
made
my
question
quite
as
clear
as
I
should
have,
but
my
concern
is
that
dollars
have
already
spent
dealing
with
learning
loss
trying
to
take
care
of
those
programs.
I
heard
you
say
that
these
dollars
were
going
to
be
used
to
augment
my
concern
is
that
a
district
already
having
spent
dollars
would
apply
for
the
grant
from
the
department
of
education.
A
portion
of
this
200
million
dollars
would
get
those
dollars
and
supplant
the
dollars.
H
They
had
already
spent
to
pull
those
dollars
out
to
spend
it
on
something
else.
So
that's
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
if,
if
a
district
asked
to
be
reimbursed,
because
you
did
say
that
you
would
reimburse
them
if
they
asked
to
be
reimbursed
and
then
use
those
dollars
in
another
way,
how
would
that
be
addressed
in
this
grant
process?.
R
The
department
of
education
as
a
budgetary
policy.
We
reimburse
our
sub-recipients
for
expenses
incurred
that
allows
us
to
ensure
that
any
request
we
receive
for
reimbursement
is
in
alignment
with
the
applicable
subgrant
budget,
and
if
we
have
questions
or
concerns
about
a
request
for
reimbursement,
we
resolve
those
before
we
issue
any
payment
to
a
school
district
or
any
other
sub-recipient.
H
And
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
go
for
the
third
time
around.
My
concern
is
that
districts
will
use
these
dollars
to
be
reimbursed
for
something
they've
already
spent
it,
and
then
basically,
the
the
terminology
that
we
use
is
change
the
color
of
money
and
then
use
it
for
for
something
else.
So
I
think
I've
probably
got
as
much
of
an
answer
as
as
possible.
H
We
know
that
there
are
school
districts
out
there
planning
on
using
dollars
for
multiple
different
things,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
dollars
are
supposed
to
go
to
learning
loss
and
I'm
always
concerned
about
when
when
money
gets
supplanted,
so
I
I
think
we've
got
this
answered
as
much
as
possible.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
A
All
right
thanks,
we're
gonna,
go
to
senator
neil.
D
Thank
you,
chair
dennis.
I
I
had
a
question
so
in
the
rfp
or
the
grant
that
you're
planning
on
creating
will
you
be
addressing
or
making
a
district
through?
D
D
I
started
looking
into
one
of
the
schools
in
my
district,
it's
in
elementary
and
what
they
told
me
was
that
in
21
they
were
doing
a
five-week
summer
program
for
learning
loss
this
year.
It's
now
three
weeks
and
I
couldn't
understand
why
it
would
be
cut
and-
and-
and
I
wasn't
clear
on-
did
you
all
of
a
sudden
make
gains
and
then,
when
I
checked
their
data,
they
were
probably
at
the
lowest
level.
D
P
P
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
to
your
point
is:
we
did
not
offer
time
and
instruction
to
our
children
during
the
pandemic,
and
now
we
are
not
only
providing
the
opportunity
for
our
children
to
make
up
where
they
would
have
been,
but
to
accelerate,
to
extend
the
school
day
to
extend
learning
opportunities
for
our
children.
So
you
know
with
that
specific
school
I
would
need
to
dig
deeper
to
see.
Are
they
extending
the
school
day?
We
have
many
schools
that
are
extending
the
school
day.
P
We
also
have
school
districts
that
are
spending
their
current
funds
for
tutors,
making
sure
that
our
students
have
that
their
specific
needs
are
met
because,
especially
during
the
pandemic,
we
know
it's
not
a
one
size
fit
fits
all
our
with
the
case
shape
recover.
We
have
some
students
that
actually
accelerated
through
the
pandemic,
and
we
have
others
that
have
need
additional
supports
to
make
it
through
so
for
each
of
our
school
districts.
P
What
I
will
share
with
you
is
that
the
the
information
that
we
have,
the
data
that
we
have
of
where
our
children
are,
we
review
with
the
school
districts.
We
have
our
district
improvement
plans
as
well
as
well
as
individual
school
improvement
plans
to
make
sure
that
we
not
only
catch
up
but
accelerate
through
the
learning
that
has
transpired.
D
So
within
the
and
and
thank
you
for
your
response,
I
want
to
know
if
you
could
also
consider
in
this
in
this
grant
process
that
if
they
do
take
on
an
extended
day,
knowing
that
it
isn't
a
one-size-fit-all,
that
there
is
at
least
a
a
targeted
tutoring
program
that
is
meeting
the
need
of
the
actual
school
itself,
meaning
that
the
district.
D
A
M
M
P
Talking
about
food
services,
mental
health,
already
our
schools
are
the
community
hubs
for
a
lot
of
our
families,
and
your
superintendents
in
your
school
districts
have
done
an
amazing
job
in
reaching
back
out
to
families,
creating
that
environment,
welcoming
environment
and
then
to
senator
neil's
point
of
differentiating
the
supports
that
are
needed
for
our
children
during
this
time.
So
I
would
say
yes,
sir,
reaching
out
making
sure
that
people
understand
our
public
schools.
Are
there
to
support
our
children
in
many
ways
and
academic
achievement
being
top
of
mind
as
well.
A
Thank
you
similar
yeager
thank.
Q
You,
mr
chair,
I
just
had
a
follow-up
on
the
procedure.
I
think
maybe
I'm
not
understanding
it.
So
maybe
I'll
just
ask
in
a
hypothetical
way.
So
you
have
the
200
million
dollars.
There's
going
to
be
a
grant
application
process.
Let's
say
school
district
a
has
a
application
for
50
million
dollars.
You
look
at
it.
You
like
it,
you
approve
it.
R
Heidi
hearts
for
the
record
school
districts
will
request
reimbursement
on
a
monthly
basis
for
the
projects
or
expenses
they've
incurred
in
the
previous
month.
We'll
review
their
request
for
reimbursement,
validate
that
it
is
an
alignment
with
the
sub-grant
agreement,
scope
of
work
and
the
budget
and
then
we'll
issue
reimbursement.
B
You
thank
you,
chair
and
mine's,
just
going
to
play
off
of
what
assemblyman
yeager
just
asked.
Is
there
any
clawback
provisions
so?
Well,
I
guess
it's
only
on
a
reimbursement
basis,
then.
So
there's
no
point
where
the
money
would
be
given
ahead
of
time
and
they
could
be
used
for
anything
other
than
what
was
in
the
grant.
R
A
B
Thank
you,
chair
with
that
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
item
h23.
A
A
All
right,
I
think
it's
senator
hardy's,
raised
in
his
hand
too.
So,
okay,
I'm
any
opposed,
I'm
not
seeing
any
opposed
so
motion
is
united's.
Motion
carries
all
right.
Let's
see,
I
think,
does
that
finish
up
all
our
items
under
one
more?
Oh!
Well,
that's
right!
There's
one
more!
That's
right,
30
and
31.!
So
we're
going
to
go
to
item
30
and
31
office
of
the
governor
and
department
of
health
team
services
covet
19
relief
programs.
B
Good
morning
committee,
my
name
is
carissa
loper
for
the
record
from
the
division
of
welfare
and
supportive
services,
I'm
the
agency
manager
for
the
child
care
program.
I
can
address
number
31,
which
is
connected
to
number
three.
A
Okay,
so
we've
got
30
and
31
who
they're
joined
so
you're
going
to
address
those
issues.
Do
you
have
any
any
presentation
or
anything
that
you
need
to
share,
or
are
you
just
here
for
questions.
B
B
Care
and
early
childhood
education
these
past
two
years,
and
we
are
very
grateful
for
the
funds
that
have
been
added
by
previous
work
programs
as
a
final
investment
intended
to
meet
the
governor's
promise
to
invest
160
million
dollars
in
child
care
for
nevadans.
This
50
million
dollar
proposal
will
allow
the
program
to
cover
the
required
co-payments
for
households
receiving
or
eligible
for
child
care
subsidy
assistance.
B
This
is
a
one-time
investment
to
assist
nevada's
families
and
with
our
economic
recovery,
the
goal
is
to
make
child
care
more
affordable
for
all
subsidy
eligible
nevada
households,
as
we
continue
through
our
economic
recovery.
Our
current
annual
average
caseload
for
the
child
care
subsidy
assistance
program
is
6480
children.
We
expect
this
to
grow
as
the
recent
investments
in
child
care
are
implemented
to
expand
subsidy
eligibility
depending
on
the
annual
actual
number
of
children
assistant
assisted.
B
B
Thank
you,
chair
with
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
items.
H30
and
h31.
A
R
The
commission
has
requested
additional
assistance
in
generating
specific
revenue
projections
tied
to
property
tax,
while
nrs
does
indicate
that
the
department
of
education
and
the
governor's
finance
office
are
responsible
to
provide
professional
support
services
to
the
commission
on
school
funding.
Neither
agency
at
this
point
in
time
has
the
subject
matter,
expertise
nor
the
capacity.
R
Therefore,
we
are
seeking
approval
to
invest
these
funds
in
a
contract
so
that
the
commission
may
continue
in
its
development
of
its
report.
I
would
note
that
assembly
bill
495
requires
that
the
commission
on
school
funding
submit
their
report
to
the
governor
and
the
director
of
the
legislative
council
bureau
on
or
before
november
15th
of
2022.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much
have
a
question.
So,
can
you
provide
an
update
on
the
work
that
the
commission
has
done
on
its
contracted
vendor
to
identify
an
optimal
level
of
funding
for
the
pupil
centered
funding
plan.
R
Heidi
hearts,
for
the
record,
the
commission
on
school
funding
has
been
engaged
in
conversations
and
deliberations
about
optimal
funding,
since
it
began
its
first
meeting
back
in
2019.
Those
conversations
are
ongoing
specific
to
the
vendor.
We
wish
to
hire
to
look
at
at
property
taxes.
No
work
has
begun
by
that
vendor
because
we
don't
yet
have
the
funding
available
to
enter
into
the
contractual
agreement.
D
Well,
it's
thank
you
chair.
It's
more
of
a
comment.
I
just
want
to
say
that
it's
really
good
that
the
study
it
looks
like
the
study
is
going
to
look
at
existing
exemptions
to
determine
if
any
of
those
existing
exemptions
may
be,
I
guess
an
advantage
or
disadvantage
to
the
revenue
structure
in
the
state
and
that
actually
taking
a
good
look
at
the
overall
structure
to
see
if
it
what
we
need
to
do
and
to
determine
you
know
a
healthy
revenue
structure
going
forward.
I
think,
is
super
super
important.
A
We
have
a
motion
from
senator
haruki,
some
of
them
and
how
to
keep
second
point,
senator
further
discussion
on
the
motion.
G
Good
afternoon
sharon
dennis
vice
chair
carlton
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
steve
acroth,
administrator
of
the
nevada
housing
division.
The
29
million
dollars
before
you
for
approval
represents
a
second
tranche
of
three
available
to
the
state
of
nevada
of
emergency
rental
assistance.
To
funding
to
receive
this
funding,
the
state
needed
to
spend
out
75
percent
of
the
first
tranche
of
39
million
in
cooperation
with
clark
county.
We
reached
the
required
spending
level
at
the
end
of
april,
requested
this
additional
amount
from
treasury
and
were
notified
of
the
award
in
mid-may.
G
We
have
meetings
every
other
week
with
all
of
our
sub
grantees
clark,
county
nevada,
rural
and
the
reno
housing
authority
to
discuss
their
current
supply
and
demand
situations
and
determine
the
need
for
additional
funding.
As
we
are
the
conduit
for
the
funding
provided
to
the
state,
this
funding
will
be
advanced
to
clark
county
to
allow
for
uninterrupted
continuation
of
their
chat
program,
and
with
that
we
stand
ready
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Yes,
we
have
some
questions,
some
of
them
and
how
do
you
is
going
to
ask
some
questions.
B
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
director,
acroff.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
I'll
start
with
my
first
one.
I
know
that
the
first
round
of
the
emergency
rental
assistance
dollars
has
to
be
expended
in
the
next
three
months.
Do
you
think
we'll
fully
expend
those
dollars.
G
G
G
Roughly
about
12
million
still
to
spend
in
era
one
and
so
going
back
to
what
we've
discussed.
What
I
indicated
previously
are
our
weekly
communications
or
bi-weekly
communications
with
our
subgrantees.
We
anticipate
that
money
going
out
the
door
by
september,
30th.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
my
second
question
was
regarding
the
era
two
dollars.
I
know
that
before
you
can
come
and
ask
for
the
remaining
balance.
You
have
to
obligate
at
least
79
of
the
29.6
million
dollars.
When
do
you
expect
to
have
that
obligated
by
so
that
you
can
come
back
and
request
the
remainder
of
the
money.
G
Yeah
steve
steve
across
for
the
record
you're
correct
75
of
this
tranche
needs
to
be
allocated
prior
to
our
request
of
the
next
one.
Again,
we
will
continue
to
work
with
clark
county
because
they
are
under
the
same
rules.
If
you
will
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
that
balance
in
that
back
and
forth
to
make
sure
that
they're
going
to
qualify
and
they
spend
down
there
75
and
we
spend
down
our
75
of
the
second
tranches.
So
that's
currently,
where
we're
at.
G
I
don't
really
have
a
crystal
ball
to
tell
you
exactly
when
that
will
occur
other
than
we
continue
to
work
and
and
will
ensure
that
whatever
dates
that
treasury
puts
forth
that
we
have
to
spend
any
of
this
funding.
By
that
we
will
meet
those
requirements.
B
I
B
Okay,
thank
you,
okay
committee
members.
Does
anyone
else
have
any
questions?
Will
we
wait
for
our
chair
to
come
back.
H
B
H
Carlton,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
I
do
have
a
quick
one.
A
number
of
folks
are
working
on
on
these
different
projects
and
an
interest
of
full
disclosure,
the
non-profit
that
I'm
the
executive
director
of
does
work
with
the
county
hand
in
hand
to
help
implement
this
program.
One
of
the
concerns
that
we've
had
mr
a
croft
is
it's
kind
of
hard
to
figure
out
what
the
real
guidance
is,
because
it's
sort
of
all
over
the
place,
and
we
know
last
time
it
kept
changing
on
us
a
little
bit.
H
So
everyone
was
a
little
apprehensive.
We
want
to
help
the
clients
and
constituents
as
much
as
we
possibly
can,
but
we
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
it
appropriately.
Is
there
like
one
place
where
folks
can
go
to
see
what
can
be
covered
and,
and
sometimes
I
have
folks
call
they
don't
know
if
they
can
request
it
or
not.
So
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
refer
them
somewhere
to
say:
if
this
happens
to
you,
then
you
can
request
this.
H
If
not
it's
it's
kind,
you
you
don't
want
to
tell
constituents
to
go,
read
federal
guidance
right.
So
that
that
would
not
go
over
well
but
being
able
to
give
them
a
basic
rundown
of
of
who
can
actually
apply
would
be
very
helpful.
Is
there
one
central
place
we
can
find
that.
G
Stevie
crock
for
the
record.
Well
to
answer
your
question.
Unfortunately,
really
you
have
to
go
to
the
federal
guidance
to
really
get
that
and
to
your
point
I
would
pretty
much
not
recommend
that
I
think
the
best
thing
that
we
can
do
and
I
will
bring
your
concern
forward
to
clark
county
and
and
see
if
there
are
already
providing
it
if
they're
not,
then
we
need
to
see
if
we
can
create
that
for
this
process
and
and
publicize
it.
H
A
A
A
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
say
aye
or
raise
your
hand
any
opposed
same
sign.
Okay,
the
motion
carries
let's
go
then.
A
F
A
We're
now
going
to
items
number
71
to
73
74
to
77
and
numbers
98
department
of
health
and
human
services,
and
I
know
we
have
the
deputy
administrator
phil
burrell
here
as
well
as
many
others
that
can
answer
questions
on
these.
So
I
don't
know,
I
believe,
you're
on
zoom,
okay,
there
you
go
whenever
you're
ready
go
good.
L
Afternoon,
phil
burrell,
deputy
administrator
for
the
department
of
division
for
healthcare,
financing
and
policy
for
the
record
today
in
front
of
you
we're
here
to
present
the
division
here
as
well
as
dewis.
L
Our
sister
agency
are
here
to
present
eight
work
programs
all
tied
to
home
and
community-based
services
initiatives
that
we've
brought
before
you
in
the
previous
two
ifc's
february
as
well
as
april.
This
will
make,
I
believe,
the
next
eight
previously.
I
think
we've
now
brought
forward
about
30
to
35
work
programs
related
to
home
community
services.
L
This
specific
set
of
work
programs,
as
presented
previously,
are
tied
to
section
9817
of
the
american
rescue
plan
act
that
allows
that
temporary
10
percent
increase
in
the
federal
medical
assistance
percentage
or
fmap
for
medicaid
specific
home
and
community-based
services
through
april
1st
of
2021
through
march
31st
2022
that
additional
fmap
allows
us
to
bring
in
additional
funds
for
direct
home
and
community-based
services,
including
including
things
like
home,
health
care,
personal
care
services,
behavioral
health,
rehab
and
other
similar
services.
L
No
state
general
funds
are
being
requested
for
the
eight
work
programs
here,
tied
to
home
and
community
based
services
spending
plan
initiative.
With
that,
I
will
pause
to
see
if
there's
any
specific
questions
on
any
of
our
word.
Programs.
A
Let
me
see
where
we're
at
we're.
On
page
simon
chmillard,
you
have
a
question.
S
Thank
you
chair.
My
question
is.
L
Good
afternoon
phil
brown,
w
administrator,
yes,
sir,
those
expenditures
are
actually
quite
quantified
in
the
pt
215
provider
type
right
now.
This
this
system
enhancement
will
allow
us
to
separate
that
out
so
that
we
can
better
monitor
track
the
utilization
associated
with
those
pts.
With
that
pt
specific
within
pt215.
A
Thank
you,
let's
see
so
simon
carlton.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
so
my
my
first
question
is
going
to
be
on
the
aged
blind
and
disabled
needs
assessment.
I
know
we've
had
numerous
conversations
about
this
over
the
last
decade
and
I
know
there's
been
lots
of
different
studies
that
have
been
done
and
most
of
them
have
been
aimed
at
moving
these
particular
patients
off
of
the
fee
for
service
into
an
hmo
type
regime.
H
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
that's
what
this
particular
item
is
is
aimed
at,
because
we've
always
had
concerns
about
making
sure
these
folks
have
the
resources
that
they
need
and
putting
them
with
with
the
challenges
that
they
have
putting
them
into
an
hmo
might
not
be
the
best
fit
for
them.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
that
was
the
ultimate
goal
behind
this
particular
item.
B
Caring
for
these
these
folks,
I
mean
we're
not
ruling
out
managed
care
being
considered,
but
we
really
want
to
take
a
a
broader
approach.
We
we
want
the
vendor
to
also
look
at
pace.
Programs
come
up
with
some
specific
recommendations
for
nevada
related
to
that
also
look
at
value-based
payment
programs,
where
we
can
create
those
incentives
to
get
the
best
care
and
most
appropriate
care
for.
H
And
thank
you
very
much.
I
I
appreciate
that
one
of
the
last
ones
the
mission
was
to
come
up
with
information
to
justify
moving
them
and
then
I'll,
be
quite
honest
with
you.
Our
email
and
phones,
just
blew
up
folks
were
very
concerned
that
they
were
going
to
lose
the
doctor
that
understood
their
conditions
that
they've
had
for
the
last
20
years
who
really
knew
what
they
were
going
through.
H
So
I
I
appreciate
that
answer
and
if
that's
part
of
the
conversation
in
the
future,
that's
great,
but
I
just
didn't
want
to
see
us
do
another
one.
We
just
did
one
in
15
to
do
that.
My
my
only
the
the
last
question
that
I
would
have
was
you
know
given
on
the
home
care
worker
payments,
with
only
about
54
of
the
providers
requesting
this
payment
for
their
employees.
H
What
what
can
we
do
to
get
more
providers
involved?
This
money
goes
to
nevada
families.
These
are
very
hard-working
people,
these
home
health
care
workers
and
just
because
the
provider
decides
not
to
apply
we're
actually
penalizing
the
employee.
H
So
what
can
we
do
to
get
that
employer
to
apply
so
that
we
can
get
this
money
to
these?
These
hard-working
folks.
L
So
this
is
phil
brown,
deputy
administrator.
I
I
think
definitely
taking
and
working
with
the
wage
board
that
we've
been
confused
to
work
with
that's
been
established
by
dpbh
has
been
extremely
helpful.
We've
taken
a
lot
of
their
feedback
and
guidance
and
definitely
listening
listening
to
a
lot
of
the
meetings
to
better
understand
some
of
the
issues
and
activities.
One
of
the
things
we
did
recognize
during
the
process
of
the
500
payments.
When
we
had
opened
that
up
earlier
in
the
state
fiscal
year
and
began
the
process
was
we
did
hear.
L
Some
challenges
concerns
the
500
payment
program
as
a
voluntary
approach.
We
know
that
we
don't
have
full
authority
to
just
be
able
to
end
ability
to
get
funds
directly
to
the
care
workers,
so
we
use
this
attestation
method
to
try
to
get
the
funds
directly
to
the
direct
care
workers
through
the
agencies.
As
you
said,
we
have
not
had
100
participation.
L
Our
goal
in
our
next
step
is
to
actually
do
some
additional
outreach.
We've
done
a
couple
of
stages
that
we
put
on
our
american
rescue
plan
website
within
the
dhcfp.nb.gov
website
to
thank
the
providers
and
the
agencies
that
have
participated
continue,
encouraging
outreach
and
engagement,
but
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
plan
moving
forward
with
doing
is
actually
reaching
out
directly
again
to
some
of
the
agencies
that
had
not
already
participated
to
see.
If
there's
anything
additional,
we
could
have
done
or
be
helpful
in
getting
them
to
participate
or
engage
into
it.
L
One
of
the
recommendations
from
the
wage
board
was
to
try
to
I
guess,
mandate
that
effort,
but
not
having
that
authority.
We
do
have
the
ability
to
encourage
and
just
continue
to
do
the
outreach
efforts
so
we're
going
to
work
internally
with
our
programs
and
operational
teams
to
directly
engage
those
agencies
to
see
if
we
can
get
them
to
participate
in
the
program.
H
And
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman,
and
just
one
quick
follow-up:
do
you
think
it
was
the
application
process
itself
that
was
confusing
if
we
had
a
case
manager
hold
an
employer
by
the
hand
and
walk
them
through
the
process?
Do
you
think
we
would
be
more
successful.
L
Phil
for
the
record,
phil
boro,
deputy
administrator-
I'm
not
sure
it
was
the
application
process
itself.
We
we
definitely
try
to
make
our
teams
more
than
available.
We
created
a
website
and
an
inbox
specifically
for
questions
and
outreach,
and
staff
and
teams
went
individually
through
the
emails
reached
out
to
the
agencies
reach
out
to
the
responses
we
got
in
the
inbox
to
provide
assistance
and
technical
support
in
any
way
in
any
way
possible
and
just
to
be
resourceful.
L
We
continue
to
take
applications
post
the
period
date
of
the
application
period,
but
we're
definitely
welcome
to
other
ideas
and
suggestions
that
can
help
us
expand
that
outreach
or
engagement.
H
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
hope,
mr
chairman,
in
the
future,
if
we
can't
get
the
providers
to
do
this,
that
we've
with
rental
assistance,
we
figured
out
how
to
help
the
constituents
directly.
Hopefully
we
can
come
up
with
a
plan
to
help
the
individual
workers
if
their
employer
will
not
step
up
and
and
help
them
get
this
supplemental
payment.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
and,
and
I
I
appreciate
the
questions
and
I
think
you
answered
the
question
I
was
going
to
ask:
is
you
know,
as
we
move
forward?
Are
you
talking
to
them
to
find
out?
You
know
I
mean
what
is
the
issue?
What
is
truly
the
issue
of?
Why
they're
not
doing
it
and
so
because,
if,
if
it's
because
they
still
want
to
do
it,
I
agree
with
the
vice
chair
that
you
know.
Maybe
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
it
directly
to
the
people
that
need
it.
A
A
A
Okay,
you've
heard
the
motion.
We
have
a
motion
from
senator
how
assembly
one
how
to
get
a
second
from
senator
canazaro.
Any
further
discussion
on
the
motion.
A
A
Okay-
and
there
is
lunch
for
those
of
you
that,
like
in
maggie
carlton's
conference
room,
if
you'd
like
to
go
speaker
pro
tem,
is
providing
lunch.
So
if
you'd
like
some
just
go
down
one
floor
over
here
in
the
corner
and
that's
for
everybody
and
stuff
too
everybody
there's
probably
everybody.
A
Okay,
we
are
back
from
recess.
We
are
going
on
to
item,
let's
see
on
the
agenda
item
j,
the
statement
of
contingency
account,
mr
thornley,
would
you
go
over
that
for
us.
O
O
Prior
to
any
actions
of
the
committee
today,
there
is
28
28.6
million
dollars
in
the
ifc
contingency
account
that
is
made
up
of
18.5
million
dollars
in
the
unrestricted
portion
of
the
account
unrestricted
general
fund,
1.6
million
dollars
in
the
unrestricted
highway
fund,
and
then
8.5
million
dollars
in
the
restricted
general
and
highway
fund
portion
of
the
account
before
the
committee.
Today
there
are
a
number
of
requests
for
allocation
from
the
the
ifc
contingency
account
all
together.
O
If
all
the
items
before
the
committee
today,
all
the
requests
for
allocations
from
the
contingency
account
are
approved,
there
will
be
approximately
22
million
dollars
remaining
in
the
contingency
account
on
pages
eight
and
nine
of
volume.
Four
of
your
meeting
packet
are
the
details
of
the
various
bills
that
allocated
funding
to
the
restricted
portion
of
the
contingency
account
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Mr
chair,
that
any
committee
members
might
have.
A
C
Yes
good
afternoon,
thank
you
so
much
so
this
particular
work
program
seeks
an
allocation
of
ifc
funding
to
help
support
the
repairs
to
the
tow
of
the
south
fork
dam.
So,
in
the
prior
legislative
session
we
put
forth
a
proposal
and
we
received
funding
to
go
ahead
and
do
construction
and
repair
at
leakage
at
the
toe
of
the
dam.
Those
estimates
were
based
upon
2020
cost
estimates.
C
Certainly,
as
everyone
can
appreciate,
those
costs
has
significantly
increased
this
last
fiscal
year
and
so
we're
undergoing
construction
and
work
at
this
particular
point
in
time.
But
we
do
need
additional
funding
to
go
ahead
and
get
us
through
trying
to
get
additional
work
completed
for
the
particular
project
at
this
time
and
we're
happy
to
go
ahead
and
take
any
questions.
A
All
right
questions,
I
believe
we
have
some
women
watts.
Thank
you,
mr.
B
Chair,
could
you
just
speak
really
briefly
on.
Q
If
you
foresee
any
additional
costs
for
the
repair
and
safe
operation
of
the
south
fork
dam
coming
up
during
fiscal
year
23
and
if
so,
how
you
plan
to
address
those.
C
So
at
this
time
this
this
funding
will
get
us
through
the
particular
project
that
we're
working
through
right
now,
but
we
do
anticipate
that
there's
likely
going
to
be
additional
changes
and
the
funding
that
we
do
have
isn't
for
completion
of
the
totality
of
the
project
that
was
originally
bid.
There's
going
to
be
some
additional
funding
likely
requested
to
get
this
to
complete
some
of
the
other
components
of
the
project.
C
C
The
likelihood
is
that
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
have
to
come
back
to
ifc
again
requesting
additional
contingency
funding
once
we
get
additional
change
orders
and
the
increased
costs
are
known
for
that
future
work
and
completion
to
the
dam.
This
is
a
significant
public
public
safety
hazard
for
the
state
of
nevada.
C
The
dam
supports
the
south
fork
reservoir,
which
is
a
significant
economic
driver
for
elko
county,
as
well
as
one
of
the
most
visited
nevada
state
parks.
If
there
was
a
failure
of
the
dam
that
would
implicate
about
80
miles
of
interstate
80,
as
well
as
about
80
miles
of
the
united
states,
excuse
me
the
pacific
rail
line,
and
so
that
has
public
safety
concerns,
because
that
inundation
would
also
reach
the
city
of
carlin.
So
we've
been
working
diligently
to
try
to
get
the
repairs
completed
in
a
timely
fashion.
C
A
C
Initially,
fair
bait
for
the
record,
it
will
buy
as
many
more
years
with
regards
to
the
seepage
at
the
toe
of
the
dam.
The
dam
is
an
old
structure
and
it
has
ongoing
repair
maintenance
needs,
and
so
we
do
anticipate
the
coming
legislative
session.
We
will
be
asking
for
additional
funding
to
attend
to
other
required
maintenance
items
for
the
dam.
It's
it
you
know,
owning
and
operating
and
maintaining
a
dam
is
is
not
for
the
faith
of
heart.
C
It
is
financially
significant,
and
so
we
do
our
best
with
this
very
small
agency,
to
try
to
anticipate
the
cost
as
best
as
possible,
but
it
will
have
ongoing
repairs
and
and
ongoing
maintenance
needs
and
those
will
be
articulated
in
our
coming
budget
requests.
M
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
What's
the
time
frame
you've
got
in
place
then
to
well
expend
this
money
and
you're
talking
about
coming
back
to
the
next
session.
You
know
we're
kind
of
in
a
dry
year.
I
know
that
we've
got
some
water
backed
up
in
south
fork,
but
let's
hope
we
get
it
kind
of
patched
up
before
we
do
get
a
wet
year
and
some
water
in
there
right
now
you
can
wade
the
river
at
carlin,
so
I'm
just
curious.
C
Excuse
me,
michelle
fairbank
again
for
the
record
the
to
complete
the
gears
that
we're
undertaking
right
now
to
repair
the
seepage
at
the
toe
of
the
dam
that
will
be
completed
this
construction
season.
We
have
our
contractor
and
consultant
out
on
site
presently
and
they're
doing
work,
so
the
aim
is
to
have
that
completed
before
the
winter
or
the
next
water
year
commences.
M
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
from
assemblyman
how
to
get
second
from
senator
canozzaro
further
discussion
on
the
motion,
although
all
those
in
favor
say
aye,
you
can
raise
your
hand
any
oppose,
say,
nay,
although
the
motion
carries
and
before
we
we
let
you.
I
know
you
have
another
item.
A
So
I'm
just
going
to
move
your
item
up
we're
going
to
move
we're
going
to
go
now
to
item
q
q1b
that
way
we
won't
have
to
make
you
hang
out
and
come
and
listen
to
the
rest
of
it,
so
that
one
is
the
division
of
water
resources,
request
for
approval
to
accept
u.s,
department
of
homeland
security,
federal
emergency
management,
grant
funding
of
two
hundred
thousand
to
fund
the
flood
hazard
management
program.
C
Thank
you,
michelle
carebay,
for
the
record.
I'm
actually
going
to
refer
this
particular
agenda
item
to
bunny
bishop,
who
is
the
chief
of
our
water
planning
and
drought
resiliency
program
section,
which
also
incorporates
our
flood
management
program.
So
I'm
going
to
refer
this
to
bunny.
A
C
This
is
a
request
to
accept
a
federal
grant
from
fema
to
support
the
cooperating
technical
partners
program
that
we're
participating
in
and
what
this
does
is
it
supports
the
risk
risk
map
program
activities
in
nevada,
and
that
is
around
providing
technical
assistance
to
community
communities
for
mitigation
activities
for
updating
mapping
in
communities
if
it's
needed,
and
also
promoting
public
awareness
and
outreach.
A
A
E
And
committee
members
appreciate
the
opportunity,
I'm
ryan
chain
for
the
record
deputy
administrator
with
the
division
of
forestry,
as
stated
here
to
request
just
under
six
million
dollars
from
the
ifc
contingency
fund
to
pay
for
bills
on
hand
from
fiscal
year.
22
wildfires
that
are
excuse
me
owed
to
partnering
agencies
and
vendors,
that
provided
suppression,
response
support
to
wildfires
during
that
period
of
time.
If
I
may
share
some
prepared
comments
for
the
committee.
E
Okay,
so
typically,
we
just
talk
about
the
fire
year
in
review,
the
looking
forward
of
the
fire
year
coming
and
a
bit
about
our
billing
process
so
to
go
ahead
with
a
year
in
review,
nevada
last
or
in
fiscal
year,
22
experienced
just
over
610
wildfires
burning
just
over
134
000
acres.
E
This
is
a
lesser
amount
than
our
10-year
average,
which
tends
to
be
about
a
half
million
acres
per
year.
This
is
largely
due
to
drought,
conditioning
drought,
conditions,
limiting
fuel
continuity,
as
well
as
a
humble
acknowledgement
of
our
highly
effective
wildfire
response
agencies
within
the
state
ndf
and
our
wildland
fire
protection
program.
E
E
On
the
border,
including
the
kaldor
fire
threatening
the
lake
tahoe
basin
and
the
dixie
fire,
one
of
california,
california's
biggest
fires
in
their
history
burning
near
communities
in
washoe
county
looking
forward
to
the
fire
year
this
year,
which
includes
portions
of
obviously
fiscal
year,
22
and
then
23.
E
Our
fuel
conditions
are
similar
to
last
year,
maybe
slightly
more
risk
of
fire
in
our
lower
elevations
than
last
year,
but
still
not
highly
risky
compared
to
some
years
that
have
wetter
conditions
in
the
valley
bottoms
this
year.
We
do
anticipate
a
high
threat
of
fire
and
currents
in
higher
elevations
and
we're
presently
suppressing
a
three
thousand
acre
wildland
fire
in
white
pine
county
occurring
in
pinyon
juniper
woodlands.
E
So
this
year's
outlook
is
going
to
look
quite
a
bit
similar
to
those
situations
that
we
probably
that
we
did
experience
last
year.
E
In
terms
of
how
we
build,
typically
wildfires
occurring
in
state,
incur
costs
through
response
on
jurisdictions
of
our
wildland
fire
protection
districts,
which
are
local
districts
or
directly
on
state
land
of
which
both
we
incur
costs
and
expend
to
support
those
response.
Efforts
and
then
wildland.
Fires
occurring
out
of
state
also
receive
service
from
the
division
of
forestry
and
our
wildland
fire
protection
program
partners
and
are
reimbursed
by
those
states
once
those
fires
are
adjudicated.
E
So
today
we
seek
these
funds
this
fiscal
year
in
order
to
alleviate
the
financial
burden
that
would
be
born
by
fiscal
year.
23
funds
before
we've
even
started
into
that
wildfire
season,
starting
july
1
through
the
end
of
the
year,
which
is
the
heaviest
fire
prone
season
for
nevada.
A
I
I
was
just
going
to
ask
real
quick
that,
as
as
we've
had
you
know,
drought,
it
seems
like
every
year.
The
fire
season
gets
longer
and
longer
is.
Is
that
accurate.
E
Mr
chair
for
the
record
ryan
chain,
deputy
administrator
with
division
of
forestry.
I
think
that
is
an
accurate
assessment
that
there's
been
many
analyses
performed
recently
and,
if
my
recollection
serves
me
correctly,
a
lot
of
the
fire
seasons
that
we're
experiencing
in
the
west
generally
and
also
in
nevada,
are
extending
anywhere
from
10
days
longer
per
year
to
a
full
month,
depending
on
the
climatic
conditions.
A
A
A
Yes,
senator.
M
E
Thanks
for
the
question
senator
gokuchiya
for
the
record
ryan
shane
about
our
division,
forestry,
our
recent
assessment
of
the
the
out
year
reimbursables,
is
about
seven
million
dollars.
We
don't
anticipate
that
those
will
arrive.
You
know
before
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year,
22.!
E
That's
why
we're
seeking
these
funds
now,
but
we
do
anticipate
them.
You
know
at
least
a
portion
of
them
to
roll
in
the
next
fiscal
year
and,
as
you
probably
know,
senator
we
tend
to
try
and
balance
the
amount
of
reimbursables
with
the
expenditures
so
that
we
lessen
that
the
burden
of
impact
on
the
contingency
fund.
So
there's
there's
plenty
of
funds
out
there.
We
are
in
constant
contact
with
our
agency
partners,
mainly
forest
service
and
bureau
of
land
management
who
are
crunching
those
bills
and
will
eventually
give
us.
A
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
from
senator
some
women
how
to
get
second
from
senator
canazzaro.
Further
discussion
on
the
motion,
all
in
favor
say:
aye
raise
your
hand
any
opposed,
say,
nay,
okay
motion
carries
we'll
now
move
to
item
number
k.
A
A
And
this
is
a
department
of
indigent
defense
services,
requests
for
an
allocation
of
8960
to
reimburse
carson
city
and
humboldt
counties
for
costs
associated
with
case
related
expenses
for
indigent
services,
and
I
believe
we
have
marcy
reba
here
as
the
director.
I
Thank
you
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
marcy
reeva
and
I
serve
as
the
director
for
the
department
of
indigent
defense
services.
The
request
that
you
have
here
today
in
3a
is
for
reimbursement
for
quarter.
Two
spending
for
case-related
expenses
for
non-davis
counties
and
request
three
b
is
to
reimburse
quarter
three
spending
for
davis
and
non-davis
counties.
I
A
similar
request
was
approved
at
the
april
ifc.
As
a
little
bit
of
background
for
the
members
of
the
committee
in
august
of
2020,
the
state
entered
into
a
stipulated
consent
judgment
in
a
case
of
davis
v
state
in
that
stipulated
consent
judgment.
The
state
of
nevada
agreed
that
effective
representation
shall
include,
among
other
things,
timely
review
of
discovery,
sufficient
case
investigation
in
order
to
determine
the
relative
strengths
and
weaknesses
of
the
state's
case
and
retention
of
qualified
experts
whenever
necessary
to
provide
effective
representation.
I
The
judgment
also
bound
the
board
on
indigent
defense
services
to
eliminate
economic
disincentives
to
effective
representation
by
requiring
that
contracts
for
public
defense
services
shall
provide
a
mechanism
which
does
not
require
judicial
approval
for
expert
investigative
or
other
litigation
supports
the
board
on
indigent
defense
services
adopted
regulations
in
response
to
that
stipulated
consent
judgment.
The
regulations
require
each
county
to
create
a
plan
for
the
provision
of
indigent
defense
services
and
submit
the
plan
and
the
budget
for
the
plan
to
the
board.
I
At
the
october
6
2021
board
meeting
the
board
approved
the
county
plans
for
elko
humboldt
pershing
douglas
lincoln
and
nye,
and
made
a
motion
that
we
can
go
and
request
certain
funding
as
necessary.
Other
plans
were
also
approved
at
the
november
17
2021
meeting.
So
again,
this
request
is
for
reimbursement
of
quarter
two
in
sub
section,
three:
a
and
quarter
three
in
subsection,
three
b
case-related
expenses
for
indigent
defense,
attorneys
and
I'll
answer.
Any
questions.
A
I
A
R
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
My
first
question:
I
can
you
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
how
it
was
determined
that
the
case-related
expenditures
are
excluded
from
the
maximum
contribution
formula
and
then
the
sort
of
form
the
basis
for
your
request
today
for
the
state
to
pay
those
directly?
How
did
you
come
up
with
that?
As
as
a
as
a
means.
I
Thank
you
through
the
chair
to
senator
canizaro,
the
department
of
indigent
defense
services
did
not
create
the
maximum
contribution
formula.
The
maximum
contribution
formula
was
actually
created
by
the
board
on
indigent
defense
services
and
the
maximum
contribution
formula
was
created
pursuant
to
nrs
180.320
subsection
3,
which
allowed
the
board
to
adopt
regulations
to
establish
a
formula
for
determining
the
maximum
amount
that
a
county
may
be
required
to
pay
for
the
provision
of
indigent
defense
services
in
reaching
out
to
lcb
legal.
I
I
The
reason
that
case-related
expenses
were
called
out
and
said
that
they
may
be
considered
a
state
expense
is
because
the
davis-stipulated
consent
judgment
prioritized
and
agreed
that
effective
representation
required
case
related
expenses.
That's
experts
and
investigators
to
be
able
to
be
hired
separate
from
the
judiciary
prior
to
assembly,
bill
480
for
attorneys
to
be
able
to
retain
experts
and
investigators.
I
The
board
felt
that
one
way
to
encourage
that
separation
from
the
judiciary
would
be
if
we
encourage
counties
and
their
plans
for
the
provision
of
indigent
defense
services
to
create
that
separation.
How
you
can
get
those
funds
approved
and
allow
either
a
separate
budget
within
their
own
county
that
these
attorneys
could
access
or
to
provide
an
an
opposite
or
a
different
person
than
the
judiciary
to
be
able
to
approve
it.
So
these
funds,
the
case-related
expenses,
are
not
excluded
from
the
maximum
contribution
formula.
I
In
fact,
it's
kind
of
a
two-part
formula,
the
first
part,
is
the
average
of
fiscal
year,
18
and
19,
which
you
can
see
in
agenda
item
m,
where
we've
set
the
maximum
amount.
That
counties
need
to
pay
these
case
related
expenses
because
they
set
up
the
separation
from
the
judiciary
may
be
considered
a
state
expense
and
if
the
state
does
reimburse
them,
we
are
reducing
what
they've
paid
for
their
maximum
contribution
to
show
that
they've
already
been
reimbursed
for
this
amount,
and
it
will
not
count
towards
that
subsection
1
of
16
for
the
maximum
contribution.
R
I
I
understand
the
the
separation
from
the
judiciary,
but
part
of
the
request
here
is
to
reimburse
counties
for
case-related
expenditures
where
they
have
not
yet
met
that
maximum
contribution
rate,
and
so
by
doing
so
the
state
is
sort
of
paying
any
case-related
expenditures,
despite
the
fact
that
those
counties
have
not
yet
met
their
max
contribution
rate,
and
so
while
I
agree
that
them
being
separate
makes
sense
and
and
obviously
conforms
with
the
consent
degree,
I'm
not
sure.
R
I
guess
the
question
was
more-
why
we
are
looking
at
a
request
for
reimbursement
of
case-related
expenditures
when
we
have
certain
counties
that
haven't
yet
met
their
max
contribution
rate
and
why
that
is
sort
of
the
policy
that's
been
adopted.
I
know
you
keep
saying
may,
but
there
are
case
related
expenditures
for
counties
that
have
met
that
max
expenditure
and
and
expenses
for
those
that
haven't
and
and
some
counties
that
have
some
additional
contracts
for
indigent
defense
services
in
their
counties.
I
And
through
the
chair
to
senator
canozzaro,
you
are
exactly
right.
The
counties
in
subsection
k3
have
not
met
their
maximum
under
subsection.
One.
The
basis
for
this
reimbursement
and
calling
or
requesting
that
these
be
considered
a
state
expense
is
based
upon
the
state
of
nevada's
agreement
that
effective
representation
needs
to
have
access
for
their
indigent
defense,
attorneys
to
experts
and
investigators.
I
I
This
separate
subsection
is
to
show
nevada's
prioritization
of
standing
by
that
stipulated
consent
judgment
where
they
did
agree,
that
effective
representation
requires
access
to
experts
and
investigators
and
also
allows
the
elimination
of
those
economic
disincentives
to
allow
effective
representation
by
taking
out
the
judiciary
mechanism
from
getting
funding
for
those.
So
that
is
why
we're
requesting
reimbursement
to
show
that
expert
investigative
expenses
are
a
necessary
expense
for
effective
representation
and
to
encourage
rural
counties
and
their
plans
for
the
provision
of
indigent
defense
services.
To
have
funding
to
provide
to
these
attorneys.
R
Mr
terrify,
may
I
I
have
one
other
question.
I
think
we're
not.
I
understand
the
reason
why
we
need
to
have
separation.
I
just
I
still
don't
understand.
Why
there's
a
d,
why
we're
talking
about
reimbursing
for
items
when
we
have
counties
that
haven't
when
they
could
have
just
set
aside
something
in
the
budget?
R
Maybe
I'm
wrong
about
that,
but
the
other
question
that's
sort
of
along
the
same
lines
that
I
wanted
to
ask
was:
what
was
the
rationale
for
providing
carson
city
reimbursement
for
case
related
expansion
expenses,
given
that
the
indigent
defense
services
in
carson
city
are
already
provided
through
the
state
public
defender's
office
and
partially
funded
with
general
funds.
I
Thank
you
through
the
chair
to
senator
canazzaro.
To
answer
that
question.
I
think
we
need
to
realize
that
indigent
defense
services
are
more
than
just
a
public
defender's
office.
So
these
cases
that
are
being
spent
aren't
necessarily
the
state
public
defender.
It
can
be
any
indigent
defense
provider
as
a
follow-up
to
that
as
well.
The
state
public
defender
does
not
have
a
budget
for
experts
within
their
department
budget.
I
In
order
to
obtain
funding
for
experts
and
investigators,
the
state
public
defender
has
been
historically
required
to
go
before
the
judiciary
to
ask
for
permission
for
these
funds.
This
is
different
than
most
other
department
budgets
and
going
forward.
We
do
hope
to
build
those
expert
expenses
into
the
department's
budget.
However,
as
for
the
25
general
fund,
the
25
general
fund
is
for
representation
of
cases
which
are
considered
to
be
a
state
expense.
I
I
So
the
reimbursement
that
carson
city
is
requesting
here
is
what
carson
city
has
request,
has
certified
as
being
an
expense
spent
on
all
indigent
defense
services
case
related
expenses,
whether
it
be
the
state
public
defender
that
doesn't
have
their
own
budget
for
these
or
any
other
indigent
defense
provider
in
the
county.
That's
providing
indigent
defense
services.
A
Okay,
let's
see
have
I
seen
anybody
yeah
senator
gokuchi.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
this
clear
in
my
mind.
So
we're
saying
the
davis
counties
which
I'll
go
back
here
are
the
smaller
counties,
eureka
lion,
mineral
and
white
pine
now
they're,
because
they
are
in
fact
different.
They
work
under
a
different
structure,
and
so
it
appears
they
have
met
their
maximum
contribution.
Is
that
correct.
I
Thank
you,
chair
to
senator
kichia,
marci
reva
for
the
record
in
section
m.
The
counties
of
eureka
lion,
mineral
and
white
pine
have
met
or
certified
that
they've
met
their
maximum
contribution
as
set
forth
in
the
administrative
code.
Section
16,
subsection
1.
so
remember,
there's
multi
parts
for
the
maximum
contribution
formula.
The
first
part
is
where
it's
that
average
of
fiscal
year
18
and
19,
plus
inflation,
is
the
maximum
amount
and
when
we
look
at
k,
subsection
3,
that's
a
request
for
case
related
expenses.
I
A
Okay,
so
we
we
have
some
options
before
us
on
this
item.
You
know
some
of
this.
I
think
we,
we
asked
some
questions
and
I
think
that
there's
still
some
questions
out
there,
but
so
you
know
one
of
the
options
that
we
have
is
to
just
approve
them
approve
the
three
requests,
but
a
couple
other
opportunities
to
look
at
it
in
a
different
way,
perhaps
is
to.
A
We
could
either
approve
all
three
requests
for
ifc
contingency
accounts,
except
for
the
40
515
requested
to
reimburse
carson
city
since
it
currently
receives
state
support
through
general
funds
appropriation,
and
we
just
heard
a
response
to
that
one.
The
other
option
is
to
approve
item
m
and
and
defer
consideration
of
reimbursing
the
davis
counties
until
each
respective
county
can
provide
financial
reports
demonstrating
cost
in
excess
of
the
county's
maximum
contribution.
A
Pursuant
to
section
80
of
ab494
and
defer
consideration
reimbursing
the
non-davis
counties
with
unrestricted,
ifc
contingency
account
funds
until
each
respective
county
can
demonstrate
it
has
met
its
maximum
contributions.
So
so
we've
got
some
options
here.
One
of
the
one
of
the
items
that
that
that's
under
consideration
is
that
I,
I
believe
that
what
happens
is
now
is
that
they
come
for
individual
requests
before
it's
they've
reached
the
maximum
contribution
and
and
it
rather
than
wait
till
it
gets
the
maximum
and
then
we
and
then
they
ask
for
for
reimbursement.
A
So
I
kind
of
want
to
get
some
thoughts
on
where
everybody
is
on.
What
their
thoughts
on
on
this
senator
gokuchi.
Yes,.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Not
just
a
question
now.
Will
we
be
having
another
ifc
in
august
if
we
defer
these
because
clearly
again
we're
going
to
hit
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
for
these
local
jurisdictions,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
make
a
commitment,
at
least
by
august,
so
they
can
balance
their
books,
which
should
be
done
by
september.
1.
A
A
A
So
senator
canzaro.
R
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
would
agree
that
I
think
option
three.
That
would
allow
us
some
additional
time
to
just
take
a
look
at
some
of
those
financials,
so
we
have
a
better
idea
of
what
it
is
and
when
we're
expecting
for
the
state
to
kick
in
dollars
and
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
where
that's
coming
from,
and
I
think
to
senator
gokuchi's
point.
Hopefully
that
won't
take
a
substantial
period
of
time.
So
we
can
get
that
done
sooner
rather
than
later
and
make
a
decision.
A
M
M
A
A
Yes,
so
I'm
gonna
have
mr
thornley
clarify
the
motion.
O
Thank
you,
mr
chair
wayne,
thorley
for
the
record,
lcb
fiscal.
So
the
motion
then,
as
I
understand
it,
is
to
approve
agenda
item
m.
A
I
think
that
was
the
that's
the
way
I
understood
it.
We
just
didn't
define
it
that
way,
but
okay,
any
further
discussion
or
clarification
all
right.
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
and
raise
your
hand
any
oppose.
A
Okay,
now
we'll
go
to
item
item
l
on
the
agenda
request
for
allocation
from
the
ifc
contingency
account
to
pursuant
to
section
4.3
of
assembly,
bill
464
of
the
2021st
legislative
session,
and
we
have
melissa,
flatley
chief
deputy
director.
C
C
All
right,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
discuss
the
request
for
a
transfer
from
the
ifc
contingency
account
authorized
in
assembly
bill
464,
section
4.3,
where
the
funds
were
appropriated
to
the
interim
finance
committee
for
the
department
of
taxation's
costs
relating
to
the
issuance
of
refunds
for
modified
business
tax.
The
bill
recognized
cost
for
the
department
to
issue
mbt
refunds
to
taxpayers
and
allocated
a
sum
of
267
500
for
the
biennium.
C
These
costs
include:
maintaining
a
management
analyst
position
to
oversee
and
facilitate
the
issuance
of
the
refunds
and
the
associated
equipment
costs,
along
with
overtime
costs
for
department
staff
assigned
to
the
refund
project
in
fiscal
year.
2023.
The
management
analyst
one
will
continue
to
oversee
and
facilitate
the
issuance
of
refunds,
coordinate
the
reprinting
of
checks
as
needed,
review
and
approve
accounting
documents,
reconcile
information,
complete
the
stale
claim
process
on
checks
that
are
not
cached
and
collect
statistics
and
provide
department,
management
and
other
stakeholders
with
status
reports.
C
C
All
right,
so
we
first
appeared
before
this
committee
in
august
of
2021
to
request
funding
for
this
management
analyst
position.
At
that
time
we
indicated
that
the
number
of
taxpayers
affected
by
the
court
decision
is
thirty.
Seven
thousand
one
hundred
and
thirteen
the
total
cost
of
the
refunded
amount
was
estimated
to
be
eighty
point,
three
million
dollars
in
taxes
and
interest
due
to
those
taxpayers.
C
At
that
time
we
provided
the
details
of
the
refund
plan
and
we've
followed
through
with
that
plan.
To
date,
all
mbt
accounts
have
been
validated
and
credit
interest
applied.
There
will
be
no
more
refunds
through
wells,
fargo
processed
as
the
remaining
accounts
required,
updates
and
or
other
cleanup.
C
The
remaining
fourteen
point,
five
million
estimated
to
be
refunded,
has
not
been
refunded
to
taxpayers
due
to
the
accounts
being
out
of
compliance
or
have
the
amount
has
been
placed
as
a
credit
on
the
taxpayer
account
due
to
out-of-date
taxpayer
contact
information
in
some
instances.
If
an
account
had
an
existing
tax
liability,
the
credit
was
applied
to
that
liability
pursuant
to
nevada
law.
C
The
department
continues
to
work
on
cleanup
of
penalty
and
interest
corrections
and
application
of
commerce
tax
credits.
However,
that
is
not
part
of
the
actual
judgment
that
came
from
the
court
once
the
accounts
are
reconciled,
taxpayers
may
use
any
available
credit
or
request
a
refund
under
our
normal
procedures.
C
C
90
checks
totaling,
one
million
four
hundred
and
twenty
nine
thousand
four
hundred
and
twenty
six
dollars
just
became
stale
on
june
13th
to
be
added
to
the
six
thousand
three
hundred
and
forty
nine
outstanding
stale
checks
that
we
currently
have
totaling
10
million
402,
000,
15
and
81
cents.
The
management
analyst
continuously
works
on
these
checks
to
see
if
they
can
be
reissued.
C
That
includes
calling
the
taxpayer
tracking
down
information
to
get
a
good
mailing
address.
Any
that
are
not
reissued
will
go
to
unclaimed
property.
On
june
30th
2023
again,
the
department
requests
approval
for
a
transfer
of
the
allocation
from
the
ifc
in
the
amount
of
seventy
eight
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
one
dollars
for
fiscal
year
2023
to
continue
funding
for
this
position.
A
D
I
think
a
chair
chair
she
answered
majority
of
it.
The
only
the
only
thing
that
I
would
probably
ask
is
how,
if
you
could,
if
you
could
put
a
projection
out
there
on
how
long
this
process
will
continue
until
you
guys
have
completed
all
of
the
refunds
like
what
would
you
say
that
projection
is,
I
see
all
the
all
of
the
diligence
and
the
extra
level
of
work
and
attention
that
you
guys
are
doing,
but
what,
when
would
you
say
it
would
be
the
end
date
here.
C
Melissa
flatley
for
the
record
and
thank
you
senator
the
staff
has
been
working
very
hard
to
complete
this,
but
after
talking
with
them
last
week
we
anticipate
it
would
be.
We
would
have
a
better
idea
in
september
of
how
long
it
will
take
to
fully
complete
the
refund
process.
One
of
the
issues
is
having
to
reconcile
the
commerce
tax
credit
that
goes
against
the
mbt
or
I'm
sorry,
the
other
way
that
no
that's
right.
D
Thank
you
thank
you
for
that,
and
thank
you
for
adding
in
that
mbt,
the
commerce
tax
deduction
as
because
that
plays
a
significant
role.
A
Okay,
let's
see
this
is.
A
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
item
l,
second,
senator
canisaro.
Any
further
discussion
on
the
motion,
all
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
racial,
any
any
oppose,
say,
nay,
okay
motion
carries,
we
will
now,
let's
see
we
just
did
we
already
did
m.
So
we're
going
to
move
to
item
number.
A
Yeah,
we're
going
in
and
nancy
request
for
transfer
from
the
grant
matching
account
pursuant
to
section
1.5
of
assembly,
bill
489
2019
legislative
session,
as
amended
by
section
29.3
of
assembly,
bill
445
from
the
2021
legislative
session,
and
we
have
kristen
stout
administrator
here
to
present.
B
Thank
you,
chair
and
thecube
committee
good
afternoon
for
the
record
kristen
stout,
the
administrator
of
the
office
of
grant
procurement
coordination
and
management.
This
afternoon
our
department
is
requesting
approval
from
the
interim
finance
committee
to
receive
authorization
to
transfer
391
875
dollars
from
the
grant
matching
account
to
western
nevada
college
contingent.
B
On
the
college's
successful
award
of
the
fiscal
year,
2223
pollution
prevention
grant
program
under
the
environmental
protection
agency.
They
submitted
their
application
to
the
grant
matching
program.
It
has
passed
both
the
technical
application
review
and
also
a
grant
application
review,
and
is
our
recommendation
to
approve
the
transfer
of
these
funds
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
A
Okay,
not
seeing
any
samuel.
A
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
item
n
from
simon
haudiki,
second,
from
senator
canazarro,
further
discussion
on
the
motion,
all
in
favor
say
aye
or
raise
your
hand
any
opposing
a
okay.
I
don't
hear
any
motion
carries.
We
will
now
go
to
item
number,
oh
department
of
business
and
industry
housing
division.
A
If
not
terry,
it's
somebody,
it's
maybe
steve
maycroft
the
housing
division
administrator,
oh
yep!
It
is
okay.
Members.
G
Of
the
committee
for
the
record
steve
across
the
administrator
of
the
nevada
housing
division,
as
the
report
provided
to
you
was
drafted
on
may
18th,
I
can
provide
you
a
verbal
update
to
complement
what
you
have
in
your
possession.
G
All
the
pre-applications
submitted
to
the
homing's
nevada
initiative
have
been
scored.
G
However,
that
does
leave
a
hun
180
pre-applications,
which
will
be
advanced
to
the
application
process
that
represents
77
percent
of
all
the
pre-applications
submitted
by
our
estimates.
We
would
still
have
roughly
2.5
billion
in
requests
from
those
180
free
applications.
G
All
pre-applicants
who
exceeded
the
30-point
threshold
have
been
notified
that
at
least
one
of
their
projects
has
been
approved
for
the
application
process
and
in
the
application
process.
The
new
development
and
preservation
application
is
being
developed
and
will
prove
will
be
provided
to
qualify
pre-applicants
shortly.
G
Lastly,
I
do
want
to
emphasize
that
we
have
engaged
in
regular
conversations
with
clark,
county
and
the
use
of
their
community
housing
fund,
which
there
are
some
parallel
projects
in
both
of
those
programs
to
coordinate
to
the
best
of
our
efforts.
So
with
that,
we
stand
ready
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Okay,
so
we
will
then
thank
you
very
much,
we'll
go
on
to
item
number
p1.
A
We'll
just
go
we'll
go
on
to
item
number
p1,
which
is
request
to
modify
scope
of
cip
project,
one
seven
17-m18
to
upgrade
wastewater
treatment
facilities,
wells
conservation
camp
and
to
increase
the
authority
to
receive
and
expend
additional
funding
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
address,
to
address
project
shortfalls
pursuant
to
nrs
341.15
and
to
transfer
in
identified
savings
from
cip
project
17.
Mo4
water
supply,
nitrate
treatment,
humboldt
conservation
camp
to
fund
the
shortfall
for
the
cip
project
17-in.
A
G
Yes,
ken
kent
lefever
for
the
record
interim
administrator
of
public
works
and,
as
you
read
the
title,
that
is
the
scope
of
the
project
this
this
particular
project
was
funded
in
the
2017
cip
and
it's
one
of
the
last
few
projects
in
that
batch
of
of
work
and
it's
it's
run
into
quite
a
few
challenges
over
the
lifetime
of
its
project
and
we're
asking
for
a
little
help
to
get
to
the
finish
line.
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
the
question.
It's
really
simple.
If
this
request
is
approved
today,
will
the
revised
authority
be
enough
to
complete
the
cip
project
for
17
and
18.
G
D
Thank
you,
chair
dennis.
I
just
had
a
quick
question
since
it's
been
taking
so
long
from
2017
to
2021,
were
there
any
negative
outcomes
or
outbreaks
related
to
the
the
water
not
being
in
the
best
condition
that
it
could
have
been
in?
I
was
reading
about
the
night.
The
extra
nitrogen,
renew
removal
and
other
items
that
seemed
to
would
definitely
affect
the
water
quality.
G
Fever,
interim
administrator
for
public
works.
The
the
nitrate
situation
that
you're
referring
to
is
the
donor
project,
17
mo4
for
the
humboldt
camp,
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
that
project
was
completed
roughly
around
december
of
last
year
and
we're
starting
to
see
nitrate
levels
get
back
to
where
they
where
they
belong.
G
G
Yes,
canada,
fever,
interim
administrator
for
public
works,
the
19
c16
project,
which
is
to
increase
or
receive
and
expend
an
additional
1.5
in
the
women
million.
Excuse
me
for
the
renovations
of
the
collection
storage
building
at
stuart.
G
A
Okay,
we
do
have
some
questions.
I
believe
some
of
them
and
jager
has
a
couple
questions.
Q
G
Kent
lefevre
interim
administrator
at
public
works.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Our
our
goal
is
to
start
immediately
on
that
project.
It's
got
to
be
designed
first
and
then
implemented,
but
we're
confident
that
we
can
have
it
done
by
the
sunset
date
of
december
of
2024.
C
This
is
donna
tilly
team
lead.
Our
arpa
team
lead
the
governor's
finance
office.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
Actually,
the
funds,
the
arka
funds-
need
to
be
committed
or
obligated
by
december
31st
2024,
but
we
do
have
until
december
31
2026
to
execute.
So
there
is
a
little
bit
of
breathing
room
there.
A
Q
You,
mr
chair,
yeah,
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
That's
that's
very
helpful,
and-
and
so
the
next
question
I
think,
really
is
probably
for
the
governor's
office
of
finance,
and
so
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
we
heard
obviously
that
the
money
that
was
allocated
for
this
project
originally
was
mostly
clawed
back
in
sb1
of
the
special
session.
C
Thank
you
again,
sean
tilly
for
the
record.
This
project
again
was
one
that
had
already
been
approved
and
the
funding
had
simply
been
decreased
or
removed
from
the
project.
So
it
was
at
a
farther
forward
stage
than
some
of
the
other
projects
that
we
have
seen
and
will
give
the
cultural
center
museum
an
opportunity
to
have
safe
storage
for
their
growing
collection
of
artifacts
and
goods.
C
They
again
shawna
tilly
for
the
record
governor's
finance
office.
Actually,
there
are
a
lot
of
projects
that
have
been
put
forward.
We
had
vastly
more
projects
requested
by
state
agencies.
Then
we
have
funding
to
fund
them
and
we
are
considering
all
of
them.
I
guess
you
would
say
fairly.
C
I
I
really
couldn't
tell
you
more
specifically
than
that
at
this
point,
where
in
various
stages
of
review,
I
think
of
most
of
the
projects,
but
I
think
the
current
wave
of
funding
that
we
have,
that
was
the
100
million
dollars
that
was
set
aside
for
state
agency
projects
has
been
pretty
much
fully
allocated.
So
I
I
don't
think
there
are
any
projects
that
are
moving
forward
at
this
time
that
haven't
already
been
notified
that
they're
moving
forward.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair
again,
chantilly
for
the
record.
I
think
we
certainly
I
in
in
our
office
view
cip
project
requests
the
same
as
any
of
the
other
agency
requests
there
just
a
request
for
an
allocation
of
barbara
fiscal
recovery
funds,
so
I
think
we're
considering
them
fairly.
Equally.
A
Oh
yes,
I
have
okay,
okay,
let's
do
this.
Since
I
already
read
this
when
I
I,
when
I
opened
the
the
thing
the
item,
I
opened
two
and
three
so
do
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
present
on
three
and
then
we'll
just
vote
on
both
of
those
together.
A
E
Good
afternoon
daniel
marla
administrator
for
the
admin
services
division
department
of
administration,
this
request
is
to
transfer
authority
from
the
reserve
category
to
the
1909
expenditure
category
for
building
permits
and
inspections
for
projects
that
currently
exist,
and
the
funding
has
already
been
secured
by
the
agencies.
A
A
Any
further
discussion
on
the
motion.
All
in
favor
say:
aye
raise
your
hand
in
the
opposed,
say,
nay,
okay,
motion
passes.
We
will
now
move
on
to.
Let's
see,
item
we're
on
item
q.
We
already
did
the
second
one,
but
we
still
have
the
first
one.
A
Okay,
not
seeing
any
subwoomen
howdy.
A
Further
discussion
on
emotion,
all
in
favor
say:
aye
raise
your
hand,
any
opposed,
say,
nay,
motion
carries
we'll
go
now
to
item
q2,
the
department
of
wildlife
requests
for
approval
to
accept
the
donation
from
the
nevada,
mule
deer
foundation
in
the
amount
of
forty
thousand
dollars
for
the
murdoch,
mountain
pinyon,
juniper
removal
project,
and
we
have
tony
wasley
director.
B
B
Yes,
good
afternoon
alan
ginay
habitat
division
administrator
for
the
record.
So
pursuant
to
nrs
353
335
we're
just
asking
for
the
approval
to
accept
the
donation
of.
H
B
B
A
I
don't
see
anyone
simulman
howard,.
A
We
are
now
going
to
item
r
request
for
approvals
of
expenditures
from
the
account
for
maintenance
of
state
parks
pursuant
to
nrs407.07.
A
State
department
of
conservation,
natural
resources,
division
of
state
parks,
one
the
first
request-
is
for
approval
to
spend
38
000
for
the
replacement
of
the
entrance
gates
to
sand
harbor
state
park,
and
the
second
request
is
for
approval
to
spend
283
000
for
replacement
existing
walkway
and
to
construct
a
new
walkway
at
sand.
Harbor
state
park
and
I
believe,
the
same
person
that
janice
keeler
is
going
to
do
those
whenever
you're
ready.
C
Thank
you
for
the
record.
Janice
keeler,
deputy
administrator
for
nevada
state
parks,
the
first
item
for
38
thousand
dollars
to
replace
the
the
entrance
gates
at
san
harbor
state
park,
that
is,
for
the
south
gates.
That
is
currently
an
automatic
solar
heat
that
is
damaged
and
needs
to
be
replaced.
So
this
would
just
pay
for
the
replacement
of
that
gate
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
on
that
one.
Before
I
move
on
to
b
or
to
number
two.
Q
C
Yeah
janice
keeler,
deputy
administrator
from
nevada,
st
parks
for
the
record.
We
are
hoping
to
get
the
gate
replaced
this
summer
and
then
the
walkway,
hopefully
by
fall.
The
walkway
is
a
little
more.
It's
going
to
be
a
little
more
labor
intensive
and
it
there
may
be
some
issues
with
getting
enough
lumber
to
to
complete
the
work.
So
that
also
depends
on
our
availability
of
materials,
but
we're
hoping
for
the
fall.
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions
on
that
first
item.
I
don't
think
so
go
ahead
and
you
may
have
already
answered
most
of
it,
but
the
second
item
there,
the
walkway.
C
Okay,
yeah
on
item
number,
two:
the
existing
walkway.
There
is
a
wooden
walkway
with
the
the
concrete
posts
that
are
supposed
to
be
buried
and
sand
as
us.
The
support
system
they
due
to
a
lot
of
the
public
use
the
sand
has
washed
away.
So
the
supports
are
exposed,
and
so
this
project
would
rehabilitate
that
walkway
and
it
goes
on
down
to
diverse
cove
at
sand
harbor.
So
it's
very
popular.
So
it's
a
safety
issue
and
we
really
want
to
get
that
address
as
soon
as
we
can.
A
C
A
K
A
You
go
deeper
or
whatever
you're
going
to
do,
that,
it'll
be
able
to
withstand
whatever
happens
in
going
into
the
future,
be
able
to
be
maintained
for
a
longer
period.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
You
jogged
my
my
mind
on
this
one
on
the
walkway
it
it
sounds
like
it's
still
being
designed,
but
I
wondered
if
there
had
been
some
thought
to
making
that
accessible
to
disabled
individuals.
C
We've
actually
been
asked
that
question
and
we've
been
looking
at
options
for
doing
that,
and
it's
there
may
be
some
options
for
getting
people
down
to
the
beach
right
now
it
is
not
accessible.
So
we
are
definitely
looking
at
that,
as
as
a
priority
for
this
project.
A
All
right
so
before
us
now
would
be
a
motion
to
prove
r
one
and
two.
B
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
from
someone
howdy.
Second,
from
senator
canadzaro,
further
discussion
on
the
motion
hearing,
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
or
raise
your
hand,
any
opposed,
say,
nay,
all
right
motion
carries.
S
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record
russell
ginnon
with
the
fiscal
analysis,
division
of
the
legislative
council
bureau
and
I'm
here
today
to
make
the
required
presentation
under
this
agenda
item
and
so
the
economic
forum
and
I'm
sure
most
of
you.
If
not
all
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
body.
But
they
are
the
body.
S
Since
the
four
members
actually
served
two-year
terms
in
the
terms
of
the
prior
members,
expired
governor,
susalak
appointed
five
members
with
one
member
nominated
by
the
speaker
and
one
nominated
by
the
senate
majority
leader,
so
that
we
actually
have
an
empaneled
economic
forum,
as
required
by
statute,
to
be
able
to
perform
their
duties.
S
S
The
former
members
are
elected
to
elected
chair
and
vice
chair
from
amongst
the
members
with
with
linda
rosenthal
being
elected
as
the
chair
and
jennifer
lewis,
as
vice
chair
at
the
june
9th
meeting,
and
thus
under
the
statutory
provisions
for
the
requirement
to
make
a
presentation
to
the
ifc
chair.
Rosenthal
directed
me
as
her
staff
to
make
the
required
statutory
present
presentation.
As
her
schedule
did
not
allow
her
to
be
here
this
afternoon,
to
make
the
presentation
herself.
S
S
Presentations
were
also
made
by
the
fiscal
division
staff
on
the
legislative
actions
for
the
2021
session,
that
impacted
general
fund
revenues,
as
well
as
the
impact
of
the
supreme
court's
decision
during
the
2021
session
regarding
the
modified
business
tax
refunds
and
the
required
tax
rate
reduction,
which
you
heard
information
on
this
issue,
an
earlier
agenda
item.
S
S
S
Also
the
economic
forum.
S
Finally,
there
are
several
sets
of
charts
and
tables
that
present
information
on
the
taxable
sales
and
the
gaming
market
statistics,
and
these
tables
and
charts
are
actually
been
an
ongoing
part
of
the
economic
forum's
information
set,
and
so
they
have
been
updated
to
reflect
the
latest
actual
monthly
information.
S
That's
been
provided
by
the
department
of
taxation
and
the
gaming
control
board
as
appropriate,
and
these
tables
and
charts
were
made
available
to
june
19th
meeting
and
they
are
also
available
in
nellis
of
under
the
economic
forums
meeting,
and
I
would
suggest
if
your
schedules
permit,
that
you
maybe
take
a
moment
to
look
at
some
of
these
charts
on
the
taxable
sales
and
gaming
market
statistics
as
they're
actually
quite
interesting
to
look
at
where
some
of
these
metrics
were
pre-pandemic.
S
And
then,
as
we
went
into
the
sort
of
march
april
and
that
middle
of
2020
calendar
year
during
the
sort
of
the
heart
of
the
pandemic
impact
on
the
economy
and
then
to
see
how
those
metrics
have
started
performing
towards
the
end
of
calendar.
2020
and
here
through
the
first
five
three
to
five
months
of
fy20.
S
Excuse
me,
calendar
2022.,
probably
if
you've
been
reading
in
the
paper
as
the
the
gaming
control
board.
Does
the
press
releases
that
we've
been
sort
of
continuing
to
set
levels
of
gaming,
win
that
we
didn't
see
a
pretty
great
recession?
S
It
really
is
quite
a
unique
time
in
terms
of
trying
to
look
at
some
of
these
numbers
and
then
make
sense
of
them,
given
the
environment
that
were
still
in
in
terms
of
moving
out
of
this
pandemic
event,
and
so
with
that,
mr
chairman,
I'll
I'll
just
share
my
screen
here
to
bring
up
the
tables
so
that,
and
I
they're
available
to
all
of
you
that
they're
in
nellis
and
they
would
be
listed
as
the
last
item
under
the
meeting
materials
section
in
nellis
under
the
interim
finance
committee's
meeting.
S
It's
the
agenda
item
s
.17
dash
economic
forum
report,
and
so
let
me
load
up
here
to
go
full
screen
and
try
and
blow
it
up
a
little.
I
realize
these
tables
are
potentially
a
little
unruly
to
try
and
put
on
a
screen
and
share,
but
hopefully
you
can
see
this
or
follow
it
online
by
pulling
up
the
document
yourselves.
S
But
this
set
of
tables
are
the
tables
that
are
updated
periodically
and
especially
provided
to
the
economic
forum.
They've
also
be
been
updated
and
provided
to
the
joint
interim
standing
committee
on
revenue
percent
pursuant
to
chair
neal's
direction
to
update
these
tables
and
provide
them
to
that
committee.
S
S
So
I'm
just
going
to
use
the
sales
tax
for
my
sort
of
example,
to
how
to
look
at
the
tables
and
read
them.
So
you
can
see
the
actual
amount
of
sales
tax
collections,
and
this
would
be
from
the
state.
Two
percent
rate
that
is
dedicated
to
the
state
general
fund
was
approximately
1.3
billion
dollars
and
that
was
actually
increased
by
9.1
percent
over
the
actual
collections
for
fy
2020,
and
you
can
see
that
here
in
the
middle
yellow
column
and
then
on
the
right
hand,
yellow
column.
S
You
can
see
that
the
forms
forecast
back
in
may
2021
for
what
they
projected
that
fy
21
would
grow
over
the
actual
for
fy
2021,
as
a
forecast
compared
to
actual
was
only
2.3
percent
and
it
actually
came
in
at
about
9.1
percent,
which
was
approximately
the
actual
collections,
were
approximately
83
million
dollars
over
the
forecast
for
fy
21..
S
So
then,
going
to
the
middle
block
the
orange
block
here.
This
is
the
fbi
2022
forecast,
as
approved
by
the
economic
forum
and
then
for
any
of
those
revenue
sources
that
required
adjustments
for
legislative
actions
and
or
court
decisions.
Those
that
those
adjustments
have
been
incorporated
into
the
forecast
reflected
in
the
orange
section.
S
So
again
you
have
the
fiscal
year
forecast
and
then
here
in
the
middle
column,
you
have
the
economic
forums
forecast
when
they
were
forecasting
in
may
21.
So
that
would
have
been
what
they
were
forecasting
for:
fy
2022
compared
to
their
forecast
for
fy21,
so
they
were
forecasting
a
4.8
percent
growth
in
fy
2022
over
their
fy21
forecast,
but
because
the
actual
collections
for
fy21
for
the
sales
tax
came
in
so
much
above
the
forecast
you
can
see,
then
we
can
actually
decline.
1.8
percent
in
fy
2022
and
still
achieve
the
fy
2022
forecast.
S
S
S
And
so
then,
what's
probably
the
the
more
relevant
piece
of
information
in
these
tables
is
the
portion
that
actually
is
showing
you
how
the
actual
fy
2022
year-to-date
is
compare
is
tracking
compared
to
forecast
here
today
so
again
table
two
using
the
same
sort
of
color
schematic.
The
yellow
is
showing
you
the
fy
21
influence.
So
this
shows
you,
the
fy,
21,
year-to-date
and
so
going
down
here
again
using
the
sales
tax
you'll
see,
in
parentheses,
to
the
right
of
each
tax
source.
S
It's
telling
you
the
number
of
months
or
quarters
of
actual
information
that
has
been
reported
for
each
revenue
service.
So
even
though
we're
sitting
here
in
towards
the
end
of
june,
we
only
know
information
through
march
2022
for
the
state
two
percent
sales
tax,
the
first
nine
months,
so
you
can
see
year-to-date
actual
and
fy21.
S
It
was
actually
down
one
percent
to
the
first
nine
months,
comparing
fy
21
to
fy
2020.
here
for
fy2022
in
the
orange
section
you
can
see
that
fiscal
year
today,
through
the
first
nine
months,
were
approximately
25.9
percent
above
the
fy
21.
Actually
so
we're.
Basically,
the
actual
collections
are
26
above
what
they
were
through
the
same
time
period
in
fy
21..
S
So
then,
in
the
green
section
here
we're
actually
then
calculating
what
the
fiscal
year-to-date
forecast
is,
and
here
it's
important
to
note
that
the
economic
forum,
actually
only
forecasts
fiscal
year-
totals
they're,
not
fiscal
forecasting
if
it's
a
monthly
revenue
source
by
month
or
if
it's
quarterly
revenue
source
a
quarter.
So
then
we
use
a
methodology
here
where
we
just
use
the
fiscal
year,
growth
rate
and-
and
you
can
see
that
here
again
remembering
from
table
one.
S
S
The
difference,
dollar
difference,
actual
less
forecast.
That's
telling
you,
based
on
the
methodology
that
we're
using
to
impute
the
fiscal
year
forecast
into
a
fiscal
year-to-date
forecast
to
be
comparable
to
the
actual
fiscal
year-to-date
collections
for
fy
2022
that
you
can
see
here
for
the
state
two
percent
sales
tax
through
the
first
nine
months,
we're
tracking
approximately
261
million
dollars
above
the
forecast.
S
S
This
is
showing
you
for
what
we
call
the
major
general
fund
revenue
sources-
and
this
is
these-
are
the
some
of
the
largest
general
fund
revenue
sources
in
the
state's
general
fund,
but
also
they're
the
ones
that
the
economics
specifically
makes
individual
consideration
at
their
meetings
versus
all
the
other
ones.
They
direct
the
technical
advisory
committee,
which
is
a
statutory
support
body
to
the
form,
to
prepare
a
consensus
forecast
to
then
bring
forward
to
the
economic
forum
for
their
consideration
and
approval.
So
you
can
see
for
these
I'll
call
them.
S
Seven
major
general
fund
revenue
sources,
although
you
see
more
than
seven
listed,
but
the
modified
business
tax
is
actually
composed
of
three
elements:
the
non-financial
the
financial
in
the
mining
portion
and
then
the
live.
Entertainment
is
actually
composed
of
two
pieces
of
the
non-gaming,
which
is
actually
administered
by
the
department
of
taxation
and
the
gaming
portion,
that's
administered
by
the
gaming
control
board.
So
there's
really
seven
revenue
sources
there
with
the
three
components
for
the
modified
business
tax
and
the
two
components
for
the
live
entertainment
tax.
S
So
you
can
see
these
major
revenue
sources
here
again
in
the
second,
from
the
right
hand,
green
column
in
the
gray
row
for
total
majors
that
were
reporting
that,
through
approximately
nine
to
11
months
of
the
monthly
revenue
sources
and
the
three
quarters
of
the
quarterly
revenue
sources
were
about
690
million
dollars.
Above
the
forecast.
S
S
But
you
can
see
the
ones
that
are
listed
there
separately
are
approximately
69
million
dollars
above
the
forecast
year
to
date,
and
again
that
would
be
through
nine
to
11
months
or
three
quarters
of
the
quarterly
revenue
sources,
and
so
then,
to
just
sort
of
wrap
this
up
and
summarize
it.
S
You
can
see
at
the
bottom
here
that
the
total
general
fund,
after
accounting
for
the
in
the
tax
credit
credits,
are,
you
know,
incorporated
in
here
that
we're
reporting
that,
through
again
9
to
11
months
of
the
monthly
revenue
sources
in
the
third
quarter
of
the
quarterly
revenue
sources
that
were
basically
almost
800
million
dollars
above
the
forecast
fiscal
year
today.
S
And
so
the
expectation
would
be
that,
given
what
we're
seeing
with
the
gaming
numbers,
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
revenue
sources,
sales
tax,
that
this
number
will
probably
continue
to
increase,
it
would
be
difficult
for
me
to
speculate
where
that
number
may
end
up,
because
I
appreciated
information
that
department
taxation
reported
on
the
mbt
refunds,
because
that's
information
that
we'll
be
working
with
department,
taxation
staff,
as
we
start
preparing
the
forecast
cycle
here,
sort
of
firing
up
in
september
as
we
get
ready
for
the
october
meeting,
is
to
have
to
take
account
of
those
refunds,
because
we
did
make
adjustments
to
the
forecast
for
the
refunds
and
obviously,
as
you
heard,
the
amount
that
we
took
off
the
sheets
for
the
refunds
is
not
the
current
actual
amount.
S
That
taxation
has
reported
being
refunded,
but
you
also
heard
the
the
interesting
thing
about
the
mbt
refund,
for
us
is
revenue.
Forecasters
that
will
have
to
be
taken
into
account
as
staff
to
the
economic
forum,
but
also
forecasters
to
the
economic
forum
is,
is
that
those
refunds
that
have
been
identified
to
a
taxpayer,
but
they
couldn't
get
the
refund
tomb
eventually
here
ms
flatly
say
that
they
will
be
turned
over
to
the
treasurer's
office
as
unclaimed
proper.
S
Thus,
the
unclaimed
property
is
a
general
fund
revenue
source,
so
we
will
have
to
work
through
the
dynamics
of
making
adjustments
to
the
modified
business
tax
forecast
for
the
actual
refunds
in
relation
to
the
forecast
here
in
fy
2022,
as
well
as
the
tax
rate
that's
in
play,
and
then
what
the
adjustment
will
need
to
be
to
the
unclaimed
property
tax
forecast
for
these
mbt,
and
then
I
think,
just
the
final
piece
of
information
that's
worth
bringing
to
the
interim
finance
committee's
attention,
because
it
was
also
brought
to
the
economic
forum's
attention
is
part
of
the
effect
of
the
supreme
court's
decision.
S
Upholding
the
lower
court's
decision
regarding
the
modified
business
tax
is
remember.
Those
rates
were
originally
required
to
be
reduced
because
of
what
we
call
the
mbt
rate
reduction
calculation
and
it's
a
requirement
that
was
in
the
law
and
it's
now
back
in
the
law
based
on
the
supreme
court's
decision.
That
requires
the
department
taxation
to
do
compare
the
actual
collections
to
the
forecast
and
then,
if
they're,
a
certain
amount
over
then
do
a
rate
reduction.
S
Specifically,
those
statutory
provisions
require
an
apartment
taxation
honor
before
september
30th
of
this
year,
to
look
at
the
actual
collections
for
the
modified
business
tax,
the
commerce
tax
and
then
the
branch
bank,
excise
taxes
statutorily
lumped
in
there
that
by
law.
But
it
doesn't
really
play
any
effect
substantially
in
the
rate
reduction
calculation,
but
they're
required
to
look
at
the
actual
collections,
including
any
applicable
tax
credits
and
compare
them
to
the
forecast
for
those
same
revenue
sources.
S
S
If
there
is
a
rate
reduction,
then
the
forecasters,
as
well
as
the
economic
forum,
need
to
prepare
the
forecasts
for
fy24
and
fy25
on
any
rate
reductions
that
would
be
required
due
to
the
rate
reduction
calculation
provisions,
and
with
that,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
economic
forum,
that
was
the
information
that
I
wanted
to
present
to
the
ifc
to
regarding
the
required
presentation
to
this
body
based
on
the
economic
forum's
june
2022
meeting.
And
if
there
are
any
questions
I
can
attempt
to
answer
them,
and
I
appreciate
your
time
in
consideration
of
this
agenda.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
the
four
percent
rate
reduction
that
could
take
place
if
we
look
at
that
almost
800
million
in
all
of
the
general
funds.
Are
we
close
to
that
four
percent?
Are
we
far
from
it
or
where
are
we
at
with
that
close
to,
or
not
close
at
all
to
four
percent
reduction
option.
S
So
that's
a
very
good
question,
and
so
I
will
caution
you
when
you
look
at
the
table
two
and
you're.
Looking
at
the
800
million.
Remember,
that's!
That's
all
the
general
fund
revenue
sources
and
so
the
rate
reduction
calculation
will
only
take
into
account
the
modified
business
tax
that
you
see,
sort
of
there
in
the
middle
of
the
major
section
of
table
two
and
then
the
commerce
tax,
and
so
the
commerce
tax
is
an
annual
tax.
We
will
not
know
what
the
actual
collections
for
the
commerce
tax
are
for
f
way.
S
2022
until
we
will
start
see,
it
is
not
actually
due
to
the
department
of
taxation
until
45
days
after
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
So
that's
around
august
15th,
and
so
we
won't
get
any
actual
information
for
the
commerce
tax
reported
for
fya
2022
until
around
the
end
of
august
or
middle
september.
S
It's
approximately
eight
point:
five
million
dollars
above
forecast,
which
is
own
only
about
around
one
and
a
half
percent,
but
it
is
quite
possible
that
there
could
be
a
rate
reduction
that
occurs
because
the
modified
business
tax
is
being
distorted
by
in
terms
of
when
we're
trying
to
do
this
actual
versus
forecast
comparison
because
remember
the
fourth
quarter,
fy
21
was
when
the
refunds
for
fy
2020
and
fi
2021,
the
bulk
of
them
were
recorded,
and
thus,
when
the
actual
collections
for
the
fourth
quarter
of
fy
2022
will
have
no
such
refund
effect
in
them,
so
that
fourth
quarter.
S
The
fourth
quarter
comparison
for
fy22
that
flight
2021,
the
the
actuals,
could
come
in
more
above
the
forecast
than
they're
currently
tracking.
S
So
I
guess
senator
hardy,
that's
a
relatively
long-winded
way
of
saying
stay
tuned,
but
given
the
sales
tax
and
some
of
the
other
things
that
we're
seeing
show
up
coming
in
above
forecast.
Well,
remember:
the
commerce
tax
is
a
tax.
That's
based
on
the
gross
revenue
of
businesses,
thus
that
the
things
that
are
in
the
taxable
sales
would
be
revenue
for
businesses
that
are
in
retail
in
wholesale
trade.
S
In
a
sense,
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
revenue
that
are
in
some
of
these
taxes
could
would
be
driving
potentially
the
commerce
tax
that
we'll
see
reported
for
fy
2022.
S
A
Okay,
you
can
tell
it's
late
in
the
afternoon
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
don't
have
any
system
all
right.
So
that's
an
informational
item
and
I
believe
that's
our
last
one.
Is
that
correct
all
right,
so
we
are.
A
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
anybody
coming
forward
bps.
I
guess
we
have
to
wait.
We
have
to
wait
a
couple
seconds
here,
but
do
we
have
anybody?
That's
queued
up
at
the
moment,
if
not
we'll
wait
just
a
second.
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
It's
been
at
least
30
seconds,
so
thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
we've
been
able
to
get
a
lot
done
today
and
we
got
done
in
a
timely
manner
more
than
than
you
can
ever
hope
for
usually
with
one
of
these
meetings.
So
thank
you
to
staff
and
everyone
that
put
this
together
and
with
that.
I
believe
we
don't
have
any
other
items,
except
that
we
are,
I
think,
keep
an
eye
out
on
your
calendar
on
your
emails
for
calendar.